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made the request that you guys leave the property they made the request that you guys leave so you need to obey that okay okay okay so in accordance with trespassing laws that they've expressed that they're willing to be victims for you guys need to leave the property and never return yeah we'll we'll be back okay to finish why do you say that because god has commanded us to preach the gospel to every creature so we're knocking every door in the city of tempe including this place they are saying that you are not allowed we're going to do it anyway okay now why would you do that because god has commanded us to preach the gospel to every person in our city and so we're systematically knocking every door in tempe phoenix scottsdale mesa that if you do you're going to go to jail okay well see you then you can send me to jail next okay i'll be back okay so have a better day yeah i'm having a great day you know i hope that you're not going to go to hell when you die i hope that you believe on the lord jesus christ as your savior do you do you know christ as your savior would you step back please okay do you know jesus christ as your personal savior i've been baptized yes i do well be baptized doesn't get you to heaven though please get in your van and leave okay all right well you know what i hope you're on your way to heaven because what you're doing right now is evil and you're not enforcing any righteous laws you're this close from going to jail okay then take me to jail leave right then take me to jail i have the right to be here no you i have the right according to the first amendment to follow my religion private property they've expressed that they don't want listen these people have the choice whether helping out if you need to get this guy sir would you please listen to me sir i will not let's go sir listen to me these people have the right to decide whether they want to hear the gospel or not on the property okay sir i'm going to leave the property i just want to finish saying turn around my piece since you work for me as a citizen i want to finish saying what i want to say please get in your vehicle and leave may i finish speaking to you and then i will leave the request has been made by an agent of this private property that you are not welcome here okay okay well listen to me all these people have the right to decide whether they want to hear the gospel and if they tell us no we walk away you need they're not going to seek us out we have to seek them out okay this is this is your last warning okay you're going to take me to jail for what for trespassing and that that's so trespassing standing here going to each person who's private property these people are all leasing it they have the right to hear the gospel leaving do you plan on i already told you that i planned on leaving then do so i wanted to say my piece sir since you work for me do so turn okay you guys work for me and you know what you are enforcing evil laws okay you're trying to stop people from hearing the gospel and if we if we're not allowed to knock doors in any apartment complexes in tempe and if we're not allowed to knock doors anywhere that there's an hoa then that means we can't knock half the doors because that's half of this city and god has commanded us to preach the gospel to every creature we're not just going to let half the city go to hell because of your stupid foolish laws you understand i already told you i'm leaving all right see you later we had an encounter with the phoenix police department just about 25 minutes ago we were out soul winning in uh a phoenix apartment complex and here's the way the laws work around here and and everywhere in america it's probably the same thing in tempe phoenix etc is that all the apartment complexes they ban soul winning all of them 100 of them they just put a sign out at the edge of the complex that says no trespassing no soliciting and then they'll just throw you out if anytime the management sees you they'll throw you out okay same thing with all the nice neighborhoods that have a hoa or homeowners association they'll just put a sign on the edge of the neighborhood saying no soliciting no trespassing right well here's the problem with that the problem with that is that in our city here of tempe that's way more than half of the population are you listening more than half of the population of tempe lives in an apartment or in a neighborhood with an hoa dramatically more than half so should we as a church just not give the gospel to more than half of the population of our city is that what we should do just just well i know i know christ told us to preach the gospel to every creature but i mean the law is the law so let's just let half of our town go to hell no we need to go in there and preach the gospel anyway that's what we've been doing for the last 11 years that's what we're going to continue to do tempe has some ordinance that you're not even allowed to do soul winning within the city limits of tempe and we've been doing it for 11 and a half years and we're going to keep on doing it and we're not going to stop and you know and people they they they get upset about that sometimes say oh you're going to follow the law of the land no no read the book of acts they were being prohibited by the authorities from preaching the gospel and they said we ought to obey god rather than man they said hey you can't preach in this name you can't do this in jerusalem and they cease not daily in the temple and in every house in every house they cease not to teach and preach jesus christ so this police officer you know is sternly telling us hey you got to get out of here and we were by the time they round us up we're about to leave anyway because it's only a one hour soul winning time that we have on wednesdays and so you know by the time the management calls the police and the police finally get out there and then when the police approach one group they're like well there's 15 of us so then they got to figure out you know find everybody and so by the time they rounded everybody up it was practically time to go anyway it's like 625 630 we're just wrapping up anyway so he's like oh you know you got to move this vehicle you got to get this out of here and he said you know you're trespassing and you can never come back and i told him i said i'll be back i didn't say it like that but i thought i said i'm coming back he's like why would you do that now why would you i said because god has commanded me to preach the gospel to every creature and if i follow your laws then i would have to let half of this city go to hell without even giving them a chance without even giving them a chance to get the gospel oh well this is their private property and this is what such a skimp private property private property wrong people are leasing that property right those people that live there have the right to have whatever guests they want to have come and visit them and here's the thing if they don't want to talk to us then we'll leave i mean if i knock on the door and somebody says i'm not interested you know what i'm in a hurry to get out of there why i don't want to waste my time with somebody who's not interested look i want to get to the guy who is interested and you know for all the naysayers out there who don't like this how about the four people that we won to christ in that hour while the police were trying to round us up we won four people onto the lord and you know what you say well don't go back well you know what i bet if we go back we'll get another four people saved since we got half the apartment complex left and by the way if we let them stop us from soul winning in the apartments and the hoas it's just one small step from just you can't do it at all oh yeah that's already the rule in tempe so the point is that they are just going to take as much of our liberty away as you let them and this is something that's important i mean we have to go soul winning we have to win people to christ now the bible does say if they persecute you in this city flee into another but you know what that's not persecution when a cop comes up and says you have to leave or else or else what well i'll arrest you and send and put you in jail and i just told him put me in jail i mean are you really going to put a pastor in jail for evangelizing that's going to make them look stupid we'll just make a youtube video and get all kinds of mileage out of that and it's not going to kill me to spend the night in jail because you know what all the great men of god in the bible they all spent time in jail am i better than them oh i'm not going to spend the night in jail put me in jail let me spend the night in jail the bottom line is that if we just say oh yes yes sir oh sure officer what you're doing is emboldening him to then tell the next soul winner to stop and tell the next soul winner so one time we had a group of ladies from our church soul winning they said five cop cars uh sir we're gonna need back up there's ladies here and long skirts with uh they're wearing babies and um they got a bible and uh you know it's it's a joke you know and then at one point uh john they told me that john mcfail he's just standing there holding his bible just he didn't like john's stance the way he held his bible so the cop says no you look hostile right now you know it's like that typical like stop resisting stop resisting you know john did you look hostile because every time i see you're smiling you're not really he's not a very hostile guy even when he's mad he's smiling so you know i just i feel strongly about this because of the fact that you know if if you just let them just ban us from half the doors first of all we're going to run out of doors because this is a soul-winning machine here at faithful word we're knocking every door number one but number two what about those four people they're going to heaven amen they're going to heaven and you know i didn't curse this guy or anything i blessed him in the name i said i hope that you know jesus christ as your savior i said i hope you don't spend eternity in hell for the evil that you're doing right now i hope jesus is your savior so that you could be forgiven and he's like well i've been baptized so i'm fine i said well that's i told him i said that's not going to get you to heaven you know he's like i i can't talk about i don't want to talk about this you know and he's just like you're this close you're this close to going to jail you're this close you're going to jail you're going to jail you're going to jail they don't want to take me to jail and all i told him i said i said i'll leave because we're gonna leave anyway i said i'll leave but i'll be back and i said and i said but before i leave you're gonna listen to what i have to say i'm gonna say my piece to you because you work and i have the right to say what i want to say about this because i you know you're you're violating my constitutional first amendment right here because the first amendment gives me the right to exercise my religion and this is the traditional religion of the united states of america christianity and i'm exercising it by going into all the world and preaching the gospel to every creature it's very biblical it has a long tradition in our country and we're going to continue to do it and so you know you just kept interrupting me and wouldn't listen and threatening to kidnap me and everything like that so you know but i i got across a little bit of what i wanted to say because if you just make it too easy for them then you're just emboldening them you're just encouraging them you know and and you know what i told the guy too by the way i told him i said well these people have the right to decide they live here they have the right to decide whether they want to hear the good news or not and if they say no we'll walk away but at least four of them wanted to hear it and got saved but then there were a lot of others who wanted to hear it that didn't get saved but they wanted to listen they wanted to hear the gospel so what about their right to escape hell by hearing the good news of jesus christ you know you can't just have this one manager just decide for everybody i'm deciding that she doesn't own that property it's been leased out to those people and those people have the right to decide who they talk to and when and why i'm going to use whether they want to hear the gospel or not on the property okay sir i'm going to leave the property i just want to finish saying turn around my piece since you work for me as a citizen i want to finish saying what i want to say is get in your vehicle and leave may i finish speaking to you and then i will leave the request has been made by an agent of this private property that you are not welcome here okay okay well listen to me all these people have the right made the request that you guys leave the property they made the request that you guys leave so you need to obey that okay okay okay so in accordance with trespassing laws that they've expressed that they're willing to be victims for you guys need to leave the property and never return yeah we'll we'll be back okay to finish why do you say that because god has commanded us to preach the gospel to every creature so we're knocking every door in the city day you know i hope that you're not going to go to hell when you die i hope that you believe on the lord jesus christ as your savior do you do you know christ as your savior would you step back please okay do you know jesus christ as your personal savior i've been baptized yes i do well be baptized doesn't get you to heaven though please get in your van okay all right well you know what i hope you're on your way to heaven because what you're doing right now is evil and you're not enforcing any righteous laws you're this close from going to jail okay then take me to jail leave right then take me to jail i have the right to be here no you i have the right according to the first amendment to follow my religion private property they've expressed that they don't want listen these people have the choice whether helping out if you need to get this guy sir would you please listen to me sir i will not let's go sir listen to me these people have the right to decide tempe including this place saying that you are not allowed we're going to do it anyway okay now why would you do that because god has commanded us to preach the gospel to every person in our city and so we're systematically knocking every door in tempe phoenix scotsdale mesa that if you do you're gonna go to jail okay well i'll see you then you can send me to jail i'll be back okay so have a better day yeah i'm having a great