(Disclaimer: This transcript is auto-generated and may contain mistakes.) And they say yeah but you know John Nelson Darby had his issues and C.I. Schofield had issues and you know Peter Ruckman he had his failures and his issues but you know at the end of the day we can still learn from these men at the end of the day we can still glean wisdom from these teachers really you know do men gather grapes of thorns well can you get figs of thistles can we glean wisdom and proper fruits from these corrupt trees you cannot according to them understand doctrine you can't understand the Bible you can't understand basic salvation without having an understanding of dispensationalism you know how does say well you know I don't agree with C.I. Schofield and the fact that he believed and taught the gap theory but you know what I do believe in Zionism I do believe that the Jews are God's chosen people who can bring a clean doctrine out of an unclean tree such as John Nelson Darby not one who can bring a clean doctrine out of an unclean resource such as C.I. Schofield and Peter Ruckman not one is it possible to extract good doctrine from a bad tree well according to Matthew 7 it's impossible why because you can't get good fruit from a bad tree and you know what John Nelson Darby was a bad tree we can't do it with Joseph Smith we can't do it with Charles Taze Russell we can't do it from Joel Osteen from any other corrupt tree so John Nelson Darby C.I. Schofield and Peter Ruckman are not the exception you see they're saved people Baptists saved they believe in but once saved always saved but they're being deceived by the dispensationalist because they've been ingrained to think and to believe the subject regarding the Jews they've been ingrained to think and to believe this matter of the pre-tribulation rapture this false fallacy of the church age and the false teaching of the misconception of the times of the Gentiles and all these teachings that have been ingrained in them they think they're being disloyal to the Bible by not believing in those things no you're actually adhering to the Bible if you reject those things