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Good late time period, humans and persons. Eberhard Nestle and Kurt Allen have finally given us an exact Bible in the 33rd edition of their Nestle-Allen Greek New Testament sponsored by the Masonic Lodge. It's estimated that 666 new Bible versions will be published in the near future based on this updated Greek text so we can finally realize what the Bible actually says. Some very un-good critics have asserted that gender neutralizing Bibles are satanic, but we assure you that there's really only one reason to constantly change the Bible. To make money. To make lots of money. Scholars agree we may have finally reached the eye of the pyramid with a newly discovered manuscript in an ancient dumpster with hieroglyphics saying burn all this useless trash. In fact, all true scientists agree that this first century, give or take a few thousand years, discovery will give us the most completely accurate version of the Bible that we've ever been able to reconstruct. Yet scholars are most excited about the never before seen document included in the discovery called the Gospel of Lucifer. This completely gender sanitized and gender neutral finding will ultimately end all the misogynistic corruptions found in previous texts. For example, no more he. We've realized that in fact we should use the word persons instead. Oh man, we've decided to change to the more inclusive human in Micah chapter 6 and in Romans chapter 2 we've changed it to foolish person. The sin offering sounds a little bit too judgmental and so it's been changed to the purification offering. Domoniacs has been updated to people possessed by demons. And more importantly, Song of Solomon in the King James version has been changed from I am black to I'm a victim of the white supremacist fascist oppressive patriarchal communist state. See persons who don't like these changes in the Bible also mock other politically corrected phrases that have been adopted recently by CNN and MSNBC such as fat which we all know is no longer acceptable and that has been changed over to important person of size aka POS. Drunkard well, that's hateful. We've changed that one to adult beverage enjoyer. And the word whore is no longer acceptable. We now use the phrase vice president. Hillary Clinton accusers are now described as persons who don't breathe well. Ungood persons may scoff at these changes and mock these changes because they're bigots. And the reality is if you're still stuck on archaic words like he, she, or man then it's probably true that you have the Baptist bias. Thanks so much for joining us for the pregame show of the Baptist Bias. We're doing the preserved Bible premiere this evening 9 p.m. Texas time which of course is the only time that matters for those lay people. It's central time and we've got our co-host Ben the Baptist. Why don't you say hello to everybody. How's it going everyone? It's great to be here. I'm very excited about the podcast tonight. It's not every day the new documentary comes out. It's not every day that a new documentary comes out about this subject matter about the preservation of scripture about the King James Bible and how it fits into that doctrine of providential preservation. I'm pumped up. I'm ready to go. I cannot wait for the worldwide premiere coming up in just under an hour at 9 p.m. as Pastor Shelley eloquently said Texas time otherwise known as central time. So it's great to be here. It's great to be back on the podcast and I'm looking forward to the next hour previewing this film. Well I don't know how we're gonna update for the next version when we have to talk about the Gospel of Lucifer and some of these modern changes are going. I mean at what point would the modern textual critics not use a text in the Bible? Well I think that they would certainly update anything. I mean James White has already admitted that and you will see that in our film on the preserved Bible in that film. We prove it beyond any shadow of a doubt that critical text proponents would update any verse in the scriptures. And you know it's funny when we record something like the Bennel log and you know there's obviously some satire there but in the next decade who knows maybe even sooner than that it might not be satire. I mean it's already happening where they're using gender neutral language in these false Bibles. I believe it was the NIV 2011 edition that did that. And so you have these modern Bibles that are already trying to use politically correct terminology. And in the future because that Bennel log was recorded sometime in the future. It was supposed to be a parody of something that happens in the future. They also use the term white supremacist because of the fact that that one is a little bit less offensive and you know white supremacist has been deemed an offensive term you know a hundred years from now so I just wanted to point that out. But it's great to see everyone in the chat room and Pastor Shelley I appreciate the opportunity to be sitting here and to be back on the air after getting kidnapped by ninjas last week. Jewish ninjas. Well you gotta watch out for the Jewish ninjas. Also we have a lot of people watching the show this evening. If you have any questions we'll be taking some questions. Also we have our hotline where you can call in and we might be taking some callers. So if you're interested in calling in and sharing with us your feelings about the movie or the show we'd love to be taking that. We'll put the number up there. I believe it's 3-2-1 Baptist. Sounds right. We'll be putting that up on the screen and you can make a call if you'd like to. Also I kind of just thought maybe we could take a second to just share your thought process about the film making that we did here. You know obviously it was a lot of work. It took approximately two years I mean we spent a lot of time with the filming the editing. Tell us what are some of your thoughts about the ups and downs of making this film? What did you enjoy? What was kind of difficult? Well what I enjoyed the most about it is just the subject matter. And through the process of doing research through the process of watching hours and hours of content related to this topic personally I learned so much. And I feel like it's night and day compared to where I was at before getting involved in this project to where I'm at right now. Like it is really night and day and that's really what I've enjoyed the most is learning all of the new information the new talking points that I've been able to derive from a lot of the research we've done about this film. I also really enjoyed the interviews that I had the chance to be a part of. We went and we spoke together Pastor Shelley and I we went and traveled and met Dr. Phil Stringer and we interviewed him. And to sit in on that interview and to just absorb all of that information was great. Pastor Steven Anderson sitting in on that interview as well and listening to him talk about something that he knows so much about. Obviously he's an expert was a lot of fun. So for me the research the interviews getting a chance to listen to the great preaching on this topic as well has been my favorite part about it. And I will say this you know I'm so much more passionate about this subject today than I was before we started working on this project. I always cared don't get me wrong but I feel like I'm just a lot more passionate about it now. My wife will tell you I mean I've been talking about this nonstop for the last like 10-11 year really for the last year. And so I've really enjoyed that aspect of it. I think what's been difficult is just the the production you know trying to make it look as professional as possible. Neither one of us are necessarily pros in that area. So we did the best we can I think with the graphics some of the color grading. I would say that aspect of it was most difficult. But overall I'm so thankful to have been given the opportunity to contribute in the capacity that I did for the preserved Bible. I wouldn't take anything back. I'd love to I do it all over again if I could. I loved every second of it and I really appreciated the chance to be a part of this. I've benefited personally but more important than that just to get the chance to put a film like this out there. I don't know that there's a more important topic. Because if you have the wrong Bible you have the wrong doctrines associated with that false Bible. We need to get people on the King James Bible it's the only way to save this country and so to be a part of a process to help enlighten people about this and get them on the right Bible and help them understand what the doctrine of providential preservation really is and how to apply it in 2023 it's an opportunity that I was never ever ever going to reject. I'm going to take that every time. So thank you for the chance to be a part of this and I just hope that those watching at home enjoy the movie. Well I definitely understand the difficulty of making a high quality production. I guess that's why I get what I pay for but of course I agree with you working on the film really helped even myself learn a lot and we had some really great interviews and we met some really great people. I even have with me actually a couple books here and I felt like maybe beneficial on the pregame show to introduce a few of the characters that are actually in the film some people really don't have any idea who these people are but one of the people that we had included in our film was Dr. Humberto Gomez and he actually helped translate the RVG 2010 and so I have a copy here. This is actually a Bible that we helped publish in the sense that we made physical reproductions of it. Dr. Gomez gave us permission to actually make physical Bibles and we used his RVG 2010 to make New Testaments as a hand out when we go out soul winning preaching the gospel and they came out really really nice. We had a publisher that we worked with that helped create this and me and brother Oz actually worked on getting all of the font and everything set and it's definitely a lot of work even after you have the book or the Bible whatever it is to end up printing these things but we have free copies that we give out at our church and you know it's great to have him on or in the film get an interview and we're going to actually be releasing full interviews from Dr. Gomez and some of these other people. You know you got to hear the whole interview with Dr. Gomez. What did you or some of your thoughts as far as you know that interview specifically. Well what I really liked about it is first of all the fact that he has such reverence for the received text and something he brought up in that interview is the fact that he appealed to the received text of scripture in order to come up with the RVG 2010. It wasn't like that he didn't just translate directly from the King James. Obviously they use the King James but he appealed to the received text to the Greek and the Hebrew to the original languages to come up with that and I thought that his testimony of salvation as well getting saved by as he calls it you know a King James Bible believer and just how much respect and love and reverence he has for the word of God and how disappointed he is to see those who would translate other Spanish Bibles while utilizing the critical text while utilizing the Greek that is based on corrupted manuscripts of the Alexandrian tradition. So it's nice to see somebody who loves the word of God who has a passion for the word of God who has a passion for soul winning who's doctrinally sound and who gave the Spanish people an excellent version of the Bible. Now I don't speak the language but everybody who has read it has told me Pastor Shelley that it really is truly an excellent translation of the word of God. Well what's interesting about that situation for a lot of Spanish speakers is there's a lot of Spanish churches in Texas and Mexico and these areas that are King James only in the sense that that's the only English version that they will use. They believe that it's the preserved inspired words of God yet they will often use what's called like an RVG or I'm sorry not RVG but an RV 1960. So it's a reign of Alera 1960 version but the problem is the 1960 actually makes a lot of variations in the text that are similar to modern Bibles like an NIV or the ESV and so that's just a very inconsistent theology when you're using the quote unquote NIV in Spanish and you claim to believe in King James only for the English. That's kind of an interesting dichotomy and so of course Dr. Gomez wanting to purify the Spanish Bible as well worked with several different people to end up producing the RVG 2010. Another individual that we had got an interview with was Dr. L. Donald Brake or I'm sorry Dr. Donald L. Brake and he's written a lot of books. I only have one of them with me. He actually gave me another book that I don't have with me but he's written several and this one's called The Visual History of the King James Bible. Now Dr. Donald L. Brake is a historian. He's also a rare Bible collector. He has several rare Bibles at the Dunham Bible Museum which is located in what used to be called Houston Baptist University and Houston is now called I think Houston Christian University but it's a free museum you can go in there and visit and they have a lot of different cool exhibits. We actually took a trip there and talking with Dr. Brake was a great interview. He's very knowledgeable. In fact our interview he's just talking about so much history just off the top of his head with so much accuracy you can tell that he truly understands the subject matter. He has a lot of reverence for the King James Bible and has written a lot about the King James Bible and I really like this particular book. I've read several portions of it and he even has some comparison charts in here where he compares the Texas Receptus and the King James Bible with modern versions and it's definitely very different. So you know I'm interested how did you even find Dr. Brake? Well I must admit it was my lovely wife. Thank you sweetheart. She and the Plant Brothers are going to love this. That's an inside thing there. They claim that my wife just does everything behind the scenes that I then out in public talk about but anyway she she emailed me one day with a link to one of Donald Brake's blog posts and I clicked on it and I read it and I just saw the respect you brought it up the respect that he had for the King James but in addition to that his knowledge of history and everything that went into getting us the Bible in the modern era. He had a great amount of respect for the manuscripts that fall under the Byzantine family and so I figured this would be a good interview for us. I thought that the history section of our film needed a little bit of rocket fuel and I think you could say that Donald Brake added that and as you watch the film you'll see he carries portions of the movie and does a great job explaining in particular I really liked what he added to the section of our film talking about John Wycliffe and everything that Wycliffe went through and what Wycliffe believed about bibliology and his view which was in contrast to the Roman Catholic Church. I don't want to spoil too much. You know there's just so much there and Donald Brake was able to give us his perspective on that. He also gave us a great perspective on Tyndale the making of the King James as well some of the translators Lancelot Andrews he gave us background information on. So yeah I mean I really enjoyed not only his interview but also what he added to our documentary and thank you to my lovely wife for sending me information on it. Yeah and I guess your wife also helped us with another gentleman that's in the film. She might have edited the whole film I mean who knows I'm just kidding. Do you even have any personal opinions? Yeah I don't. Okay well does she write the sermons? She writes everything. Okay that's good. Well we had another interview with a man named Dr. Phil Stringer and he is a pastor, author, evangelist. He's written books as well. He's an author of this book called The Unbroken Bible and you know what's interesting is this is pretty similar to our film as far as concept and he's written about the preservation of God's word and Dr. Stringer is not someone that grew up as a fundamental Baptist believing that the King James Bible is the only preserved Bible. He actually has a history where at one point he was a textual critic and he did not believe in the King James only position and he ended up studying it out for himself after having gone to Bible college and realized that the King James Bible is the preserver of God and so that's in my mind a great testimony to hear someone being fed all the lies of college and the scholars and the textual critic's position and then when actually researching it realizing wow this is just a bunch of fluff and that's what we hope with this film. We hope that people will research they'll study, they'll try to actually pay attention to the arguments because I think once you start slowly paying attention to the arguments you're going to slowly start realizing wow there's not really any weight to the other side's arguments. Now you've read some of this book is that correct? I've read the whole thing I thought it was an excellent book. I agreed with the vast majority of it. I think Dr. Stringer is extremely knowledgeable on this subject we pretty much agree and he has some excellent talking points that he brings forward in the film. You'll notice it. A lot of people actually I've spoken to about this subject knew about Dr. Stringer before I did and they had been a fan of his for a while and a bunch of people that I've spoken to Pastor Shelley are very excited to see his contributions to this film and he is proof that people can change their mind on this issue. I've met many who have even those who consider themselves to be authorities on the scriptures or maybe they've already been ordained or they've been preaching for a long time. They already know a lot about the Bible. They can change as well. It's possible which I think further underscores the importance of our documentary because I think it is very possible that someone somewhere somehow will watch the film and maybe have a change of heart much like Dr. Stringer did. Look at him now producing books like The Unbroken Bible which is a really cool title. He even gave me another book called Evangelism Made Simple and I've kind of read through some of this as well. It's tips and suggestions for soul winning and how to address different conversations such as talking with a Muslim or a Jehovah's Witness or just different kind of situations you may find yourself in without soul winning. It's great to find other men that are zealous for the King James Bible, zealous for soul winning and evangelism. Dr. Stringer was a great guy. It was really fun to talk with him and his interview was really good. I look forward to releasing the full interview with him as well. Really with this film project we have a lot of content that did not make the final cut. I think that Ben's deleted scenes is a longer movie than the actual movie itself. He's not exaggerating folks. That's likely true. Hopefully we can release, after a few weeks we'll start releasing a lot of this content on a regular basis. If this film you really enjoyed it but you kind of wanted more stay tuned, subscribe to the channel and we're going to definitely be releasing a lot more information, interviews the deleted scenes. I'm going to be making some clips talking about this subject. The film, while it's a very in my opinion complete film, it makes a sound argument. There is a lot to why we use the King James Bible. There's a lot to understanding where the Bible comes from. For those that are very interested we want to supply more information and more documentation. But at the end of the day, if you've seen that they're different, you understand the argument of doctrine and preservation, that should be enough for you to decide. King James Bible is my Bible. There was a lady at Steadfast Oklahoma City and I apologize, I don't know her name. Miss Rhea. Miss Rhea walked out of the theater and essentially said, if you could see that whole thing and still not change your mind, I don't know that anything is going to help you. I just loved that. That was one of my favorite reviews. That was a great review. Because it's true! Of course. I mean, at the end of the day, you can take a horse to the lake and you can put his mouth next to the water but you can't force him to drink. Can't force him to drink. So of course we can drag people to the King James Bible and show them why it's the best Bible but at the end of the day that's just not you can't force someone to believe the truth. But I do believe there's a lot of people out there that are just a little bit ignorant. They don't have much knowledge. No one's taught them anything. No one's showed them what the differences are. They have an opportunity here to change. I see a comment in here. They were saying Dr. Stringer was teaching at Mickey Carter School in Haines City and that's where some other pastors Pastor Patrick Boyle and Pastor Joe Major had attended. When I actually talked with Dr. Stringer in the film he brought that up. You want to listen to the whole interview but he definitely doesn't agree with that group anymore as far as the King James Bible is concerned. He has a different view than them and in my mind he has the right view when it comes to the Bible and so it's kind of a testimony that even being around people that have a different viewpoint he can stand on what the truth of the Word of God is. At the end of the day Dr. Stringer wants to maintain a healthy relationship with anybody and wants to be friends with people but he told me that people have separated company from him for simply taking a strong stand on the King James Bible and believing that it's the preserved Word of God and also even accepting the Texas Receptus and the preceding Bibles. You can watch the film for yourself but for the most part I agreed with pretty much everything that Dr. Stringer had said in his interview and so I hope people will give him a chance as far as his perspective on King James Onlyism. For sure. Like I said I have a great respect for Dr. Stringer and I think he is an authority on the subject. He knows a lot about it. And I wanted to say just to add to the discussion, I know we do have a caller Pastor Shelley in the queue. Just wanted to put that on your radar. But I will say this, when it comes to the film there are two goals that I hope can be achieved with this documentary. Just two. The first one is this, educate. I hope that people who watch this, even if they are already on our side, walk out of well the theater showings have already happened but after the film is over that they can say I learned something. And if that's the case then praise God. Here's the second goal that I have for this film that I hope can be achieved. Inspire. I hope people are both educated and inspired by this film. I hope that they both learn something and feel inspired to, as a direct result of the movie, pick up their King James Bible, dust it off their shelf, and read it. That's the goal right here is that people get inspired to read their Bible and get plugged in and serve the Lord Jesus Christ. Educate and inspire. That's what I hope we can achieve with the Preserved Bible. Now one thing I want to talk about before we get too far in here and I haven't had a chance. We are going to be doing a competition for the film. We'll take a caller after I explain this. But we are doing a competition in the film. There's two ways to win. And we're going to actually take the top ten winners in both categories. So in the film we have one callback. And a callback is essentially a reference to a previous film project that we have. So if you can put the timestamp and what film the callback is to and email it to Steadfast Baptist KJV, you are going to win a prize. Now the prize is going to be, in part, we're going to be making some new shirts. We're going to make a new Sodomite Deception shirt and we're going to be making a new Preserved Bible t-shirt. So if you can get the callback we will get you a new shirt and it's going to be for the top ten people. So even if someone's already got this, the first ten. Now I know some people out there think they already know this, but you got to give me the exact timestamp and you got to give me the name of the callback film. If you can email that to us, whoever's the top ten, we're going to send you a free shirt along with another prize. The second part of the competition is there's an Easter egg. Now an Easter egg is kind of an allusion to something that's going to happen in the future. We hope to make more documentary films. There is going to be other projects that we're going to work on. So we put a very clear Easter egg in the film in reference to a future work. So again, if you can give us the timestamp and exactly what the Easter egg is in reference to, the first ten people on that are going to also get a shirt. Now I will say this, you can't win both shirts though, so you got to pick which one you want to email us in, but essentially we should have twenty winners if everybody wants to participate in this competition. So the first ten people that are going to email us the timestamp and the reference to the callback will win a prize and the other first ten people that can give us, someone's going to be using a new email account I feel like. And of course if you want to put your name and address in there we'll be sending these things out. So we just wanted to make it a little bit fun, pay attention to the film. There's a lot of cool stuff in there, but this is a friendly little competition we want to put in there and so we'll be putting that information out. This is kind of your opportunity, of course watching The Baptist Bias, you get all the information first, so thanks so much for tuning in. We've got a hundred and twenty people on the live stream and make sure when we wrap up, we're going to wrap up a few minutes early click on over and watch the Preserve Bible. Put some comments in there, share the film, we want to really And pay attention. You have to pay attention to this film. You can't just kind of be half in, half out. Pay attention. Now let's go to our caller. Someone can give me who our caller is. It's Brother Sean. If we can get him patched through we can hear what he has to say. Some of his research made it into the documentary in fact. Yeah! Fantastic. Producer? Can you hear me? Okay. He's on? Alright. Brother Sean? Yeah, I can hear you. Can you hear me? Brother Sean, go ahead, speak. You're online. Going once, going twice. We need you to talk to us. I'm right here. Hey Sean, how's it going? Oh, hey. Going great. Saw the film on Saturday and it was absolutely fantastic. That's great. Now we don't want to spoil anything for our audience out here, but did you get to see it in theaters? Yes. Yeah, I got to see it in the theater in Washington. Well, Brother Sean, I remember we talked a lot at the Red Hot Preaching Conference about this subject and I was really excited because you had such zeal for this topic and I like talking to people who have a lot of zeal and so that was cool, but you had sent me some research. Without spoiling it, did you notice that it made it in? I did. I did. I did notice that it made it in and you know, I've done a lot of research on this. I've preached about it at church. Pastor Thompson's been really supportive of preaching about it and I've done a lot of research. I actually, Dr. Stringer saw some videos that he did earlier and there's so much information. There's so much out there that proves that you know, I mean, obviously we just trust the Bible. We trust that God's preserved his word, but there is so much evidence to show beyond just what the Bible says that this is the word of God. It is preserved and it's just amazing to see that because you know, I believe it through faith, but then when I actually look at the record and I look at the evidence, it all lines up with Scripture and it's just absolutely incredible to see that and I've been able to to you know, to tell you the truth, the whole reason why I even got into the new IFB was because this whole Bible issue, I was really confused because I'd see all these different versions and then I had someone tell me once, hey, you need to get a real Bible, you need to throw that NIV in the trash and that kind of led me into this whole, well, you know, is there one you know, Bible in the English language for us and the evidence overwhelmingly was the King James Bible, so. One of the, some of the quotes and some of the research you had given us, I ended up looking up and kind of researching, trying to get the source and there was a letter that King James had written to his son, I think it's called the Basilicon Doron. Is that something that you've actually read? Yes, yeah, I've actually read it and I actually preached a sermon about it, but it's just this amazing book, I mean, think about this, think about it, if someone came to you and said, hey, Pastor Shelley, I want you to write a book about how your son should act. And that's what he did, he wrote a book, I think it's split up into three parts, it's like a king's duty to his people, a king's duty to God and a king's duty to his country and it's just very well thought out and it's just soaked with Bible and just every turn he's just constantly quoting scripture and it was incredible to see that and I really do believe that, I mean, you go back to Deuteronomy 17 where it talks about the rules for kings, if you look at all those rules that were in the rules for kings and you compare that to King James, he really tried to keep all those rules and I actually, to tell you the truth, I can't find another monarch that did that besides Jesus Christ. I mean, you know, Well, that letter definitely gives a lot of insight to his affection for the King James Bible and specifically even just Christianity, which it's funny to me because I had preached about a guy Sunday night and his name was like Matt McMillan and he said, there's a rumor out there that King James wasn't even a Christian and I was just like, this guy has done zero research to say such a stupid comment or the idea that King James is somehow not even a Christian is just such a bizarre statement for someone to make and I think anybody that's done any level of research would realize the absurdity of such a claim. I feel like someone like you could appreciate how foolish of an idea that could be. Yeah, and just to give a little context into the Silicon Dorn, you know, Cambridge University has the original handwritten manuscript that he wrote and it's on their website. They actually have pictures of it because I kind of thought maybe in the back of my mind, maybe King James just had some bishops putting this together for him or something, but then I found out that no, they actually have it in his handwriting and I was, it's, let me tell you, it's hard to read because it's in cursive and there's a lot of, just the way they spoke was different but to see him write stuff out and then scratch out entire passages, you could tell that he was really thinking about it and it's just, it's a level of thought about the Bible and about what God expected from him that you just don't see these days and it's really made me think about how I'm going to raise my own children. Yeah, it really challenged me to think like, wow, maybe I should write a book or a letter to my children about how to behave. Now, one thing I wanted to ask you, obviously you're someone that studied the topic more than others. You have a lot of information and knowledge, but as far as the film is concerned, did you still feel like maybe there were some things you learned or was there anything that was kind of new to you on the subject matter? Yeah, totally. There were several things that I thought were stuff that I really hadn't looked into that much that really, I don't want to spoil anything, but I really liked the narrative. It was very engaging and to tell you the truth, even when some of the stuff came on that I wrote out, at first I was like, oh no, is this going to be too dense on information? Are people going to get disinterested? But then I was really pleasantly surprised to say that no, it's not. It flows really well. Everyone I talked to was like, they got it. They got the information that was there. It's one of those things that I geek out about it and some people are like, okay, that's too much information and I get that, but I'm so excited about it. I want people to hear about it, but I really think the documentary is a great balance of here's a lot of evidence, but also I love the way you guys put in a lot of Bible. I've seen quite a few people try and argue the King James position, but then there's so little scripture that it's like, what's the point, man? If you're just going to try and prove it through secular means, then God wants us to I mean, faith is what God wants. He wants us. How can we please God without faith? That's how I approached this, was that I knew the King James Bible was inerrant. I knew that it was perfect. When I started investigating these various aspects of it, all it was doing was confirming what I already knew. That was it. It's such an amazing book, and every day when I open my Bible and I read it, it's just like, this is God speaking to me. I don't have to worry about whether it's been translated correctly. I don't have to worry about whether it's been preserved correctly. I don't have to worry about any of that, because God's going to preserve it. He promised that He would preserve it. He promised that He would make it available, and it's available to me right there. And I can just it's such an incredible feeling to know that the Creator of the universe loves me so much that He's just like, here. Here is my inerrant word that is speaking directly to you, and it's an awesome feeling. And I really especially what Brother Ben was saying, the whole point of this documentary is for people to just dust off the Bible and read it. I mean, right now at our church, we're going through the one month New Testament Bible challenge, and we just finishing up reading the New Testament in a month. And man, reading the New Testament in a month, it gives you a perspective on what was going on with Jesus, you know, reading the Gospels. I think I read the four Gospels in like two or three days, and it was it's I don't know, it just makes it it makes it come alive. And that's something I encourage people to do, too, is just read the Bible. I mean, you've got God's word right there. You know, there's so many countries around the world where they don't have good translations in their own language, and we do. And we need to take advantage of that. You brought up reading your King James and just thinking to yourself, these are the very words of God. And you you compare that to critical text proponents who are excavating, who are using archaeology, who are trying any any through any means possible to discover what the original autographs said. They're trying to reconstruct the text to figure out what the original manuscript said. And for us, it's as easy as picking this up and reading it. Here you go. Here's what the original manuscript said. I have it right here. It's called the King James Bible. You can read it from Genesis to Revelation, and you'll know what the original manuscript said. And if you want to know what it said in Greek, pick up an 1894 scrivener. You want to know what it said in Hebrew? Pick up the Masoretic text from Daniel Bomberg. I mean, it's like these people are on this never-ending mission to find the word of God and those who adhere to the received text position, who believe in King James only-ism. For us, we have it. We have God's Word, and what a special feeling that is that really has been rejected by these Bible correctors who are still excavating and trying to find what they believe is missing when it's really not. It's been preserved right here for you. And we proved the doctrine of preservation up one side and down the other in this film. You brought up the Scripture. There is so much Scripture on that topic in our documentary. One of the things I thought was interesting, there was a reviewer that said this too, but he said, which one of these modern Bible translators would be willing to die for their translation? When is James White going to be willing to die for any version of the Bible? Or the NIV editors, would they be willing to die for the NIV? Whereas I think the martyr aspect of the King James Bible, and the preceding Bibles, is a very interesting point. Whereas you have the modern Bibles, if they're really the Word of God, all this martyrdom and all this work and effort that happened throughout history is really kind of nullified. It's vain and pointless. So it's like the people that died for the Bible died for the wrong ones, and then the right one, no one's willing to die for it. It just kind of is a strange viewpoint. Yeah, the wrong ones that are supposedly the right ones aren't being used. I don't want to spoil the movie, but I will say this, Pastor Shelley, our Bible was written with the blood of William Tyndale in the New Testament in the sense that he gave his life to get the refining process started providentially with the English translation of Scripture, and then you go a hundred years into the future and you have the King James Bible, but it's largely based on, and we talk about it in our movie, just how important it was William Tyndale and how much of his work is still present in our Bible today. Hey, why don't you give us one more plug, Brother Sean, for the film, or any last thoughts real quick. Yeah, I just love the way it was so informative, and like I said, it was interesting from start to finish. At no point in the film was I like, oh man, this is getting boring or anything. When it ended, I'm like, oh, that's it? I didn't even feel the passage of time because you're just interested from beginning to end. It's edited really well. I'm kind of a snob when it comes to editing and filming and stuff, and I really like the way it was done. The music is fantastic. This is something that you can really give to someone who maybe doesn't know a lot about this issue, and you can say, hey, here's this documentary, and it clears this up, and it's not going to be something that they watched in high school that's real boring. It's going to be like they're watching on the Discovery Channel or the History Channel or something like that. They're just going to be like, wow, this is awesome. Then when they get to the end, they're just going to know for sure, for a fact, that the King James Bible is God's word in the English language. Well, amen. Great review. I really appreciate you calling in. Thanks so much for giving us a great and positive review of the film and even helping with some of the filming process and editing process, giving us some information that we could use. One thing I did want to play was that clip you had of Jack Hyles. We have an often argument against the King James Bible is, oh, it's just too hard, or you can't really understand it. It's too difficult to understand. All these archaic words. It's funny to me because in the film, we put a lot of King James Bible in there. No one ever tells me, oh, one of those verses in there I didn't understand. They always seem to understand all the verses we show and use. It's kind of a sad argument or a pathetic argument in a lot of cases. We have an older clip of a preacher, Pastor Jack Hyles. He was a really famous preacher. He had a large church in Hammond, Indiana. He's going to explain to us his viewpoint on how hard the King James Bible is. Let me exegete that for you. And as he, that's opposite of she, lay, that means you ain't standing up. And slept, that means you ain't awake. Under, that means he wasn't on top of it or even with it. A juniper tree, that's something that grows out of the ground, got a trunk and branches and leaves on it. An exegete. And brother, it's just as near exegete as all these dried up professors give you in our colleges these days. Let me just keep on exegete while I'm at it. Behold, that means look at there. Says then, then, that tells you when it was. And, that means it's just one. Angel, that's something that's got blonde hair and floats around with a magic wand all the time. Touch, that means that you made contact. You rubbed his hand with some goo. Said, that means he's talking. Under him, that means he's talking to somebody else that wasn't a she or an it. Arise, that means get up. And eat, any crazy fool doesn't know what that means ought not to understand the Bible. So I just opened it to another place. Let's go over here, the tough one, the chronicles. I just pointed like that. Here's what it came to. And the Lord, that fellow lives up there. Appeared, that means somebody's seen him. To Solomon, that was the king. By night, that means it was dark. And said, that means he's talking. Under him, that means he's talking to a he, not a she or an it. I have heard, that's what you do with your ears when somebody's talking. This Bible sure is hard to understand, isn't it? I just pointed to another place like that. And here's what it got. While he was yet speaking, there came also another. Help me, I need an IV, folks. I beg you, throw me a Moffat's translation. Give me an Amplified. I am lost in the depth of this book. You sorry scoundrel, you. You lazy rascals spend all your time giving us new Bibles. Why don't you shut up that, get your old King James Bible and shut up all that translation you're doing and get your bunch of prospect cards and go soul winning. Amen. That was a great clip, but I was a little triggered by all the he and the she. I don't know if he actually realizes that was a mistranslation. It should have been humans and persons. That's right. And if you disagree, you are a threat to our democracy. Pastor Hiles is so entertaining. I feel like if you went to a sermon of his, it would be almost unfair. It's so entertaining. It would almost feel like you weren't even at church or something. It's so good. That's why he ran thousands. Yeah, of course. He changed the whole country. So many men were sent out of that church, independent from the Baptist. It's kind of funny that we have Pastor Stephen Anderson who went to Hiles Anderson College, studied under that. He's listened to a lot of Pastor Hiles' sermons and all of these churches that were started from Hiles Anderson College in that era It's like they don't like Pastor Anderson, but Pastor Anderson has listened to so much Jack Hiles' preaching and preaches a lot like him. It's funny. They don't like Pastor Anderson even though he's basically very similar to and preaches a lot like the person they supposedly look up to and kind of led them out and sent them out. It kind of makes me think of John when he talks about how the church will no longer receive him. There's a lot of people out there who love it the preeminence. It's kind of a sad state of affairs, but of course we don't have animosity towards the old-life bee. It's usually the other way around. I'm hoping with our film about the preserved Bible maybe we can make some common ground. We can make some more friends and some more people can see that we're not just these awful, horrible, bad people but rather we're just truly convicted fundamental Baptists that love the Bible and want other people to make the same change to the King James Bible. And this is an area of common ground for a lot of us independent fundamental Baptists and we should be able to come together on this. Yeah, we might disagree on some eschatology or whatever. There may be some doctrines where we might not see eye to eye, but when it comes to the doctrine of the Bible, when it comes to the doctrine of providential preservation this is something that we should be able to come together on and that's why I give credit to somebody like a Dr. Phil Stringer for doing the interview with us and contributing to our film and recognizing that we see eye to eye on this crucial issue and we can together try to take down the critical text proponents who are doing everything within their power to stymie the work of God, to confuse people on what the Bible is and to confuse people on what God said. Pastor Jack Hyles said it best in that clip, the King James one of the attacks against it is that it's too difficult it's too hard, you can't understand it baloney, that's garbage and he disproves that. Now there are certain passages that are difficult but that's because the Bible itself contains both the milk and the meat there are going to be certain parables that are harder to understand there are going to be certain chapters, Daniel chapter 11 comes to mind that are difficult to understand but that doesn't mean that it's the it's not like an exclusive issue with the King James that's the Bible, that's the word of God folks you have the milk and you have the meat. Well again, if the Bible as it describes is Jesus Christ in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God, we understand that Jesus Christ is the word of God, why would I ever assume that I'm going to understand all of it instantly there has to be some level of difficulty if this is truly the word of God given down from man, or given from God to man, then there's going to be a level of difficulty even with any language as well you're going to have to learn new words and it's silly because these modern versions have all kinds of bizarre words and difficult passages in them as well and so it's just a fool's errand to claim, oh I need a picture book, or whatever it is you're never going to cater to the lazy you're never going to cater to those who are so simple minded that they choose not to understand the Bible and so of course this film itself is not going to cater to them it's actually going to use words and speak in a way where you have to actually pay attention and listen, it's not a cartoon folks yeah, and what's wrong with trying to uphold an English language that doesn't sound like it's coming from the mind of a complete idiot our language continues to get dumbed down, texts speak and the street talk and all the rest of it and I think, you know why don't we be a force for change in that area and say no, we're going to preserve the right way to talk, right we're going to preserve the right way to speak and any hobby that you come up with football, certainly golf you talked about tea time last week I had no idea what that meant but my point is, any hobby that you want to be interested in, that you have an interest in is going to come with terminology that you have to learn, football, golf hockey, whatever sport, whatever hobby you have to learn new words well guess what, with regard to the word of God, the same rule applies, you're going to have to probably learn some new terms, but there's no harm in that, absolutely and you know, we're getting down to the last few minutes here it's five minutes, it's less than five minutes and the film is going to start premiering and we're going to be cutting off just a few minutes before that, so we're getting pretty close to wrapping up one last reminder, we have a competition if you can spot our callback, email us immediately the time stamp along with that callback the first ten are going to receive a prize in addition to this, the first ten that can find our Easter Egg time stamp and what the Easter Egg is in reference to for our future project that we're doing is going to also receive a prize and we're going to be sending out new t-shirts that we'll be making to them, so it's going to be fun pay attention to the film, please share, like subscribe, and even if you want more, stick around you know, check our channel, we're going to be releasing a lot more information and I really appreciate all those that have supported our church supported Pure Words Baptist Church supported Step Fast Baptist Church and supported us and able to make this film, you know, if it wasn't for our church, if it wasn't for those that are generously donating to us online and even those that just donated over their time efforts and energies, we wouldn't be able to make a film like this, and so it's not a one man show, a lot of people help me with the film, a lot of people that probably aren't even getting recognition have helped me on the film and I have to say thank you to giving us this opportunity I feel very privileged to be able to make a film like this and be able to share this, it's an important topic for me, I love the King James Bible and so you know, I just want to make sure that others can also appreciate the Bible that we've been given well, I think that's going to end up doing it for us, make sure to check out the Baptist Bias Weekly, Tuesdays 8pm, here we're going to be having several more episodes this season, you don't want to miss them, you want to check them out live so you can call in, you can give us your questions and that's pretty much going to wrap us up, why don't you go ahead and close it out Ben I don't care what you're doing right now, drop it and head over to the Love Thy Neighbor YouTube channel to check out the worldwide premier of the preserved Bible, it starts in minutes and folks, for Pastor Jonathan Shelley this is Benjamin Naim signing off and we will talk to you guys again after a while you