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What's up guys? I'm Alan Branch from Project 49 and I'm excited tonight about our show. This is not our typical broadcast. We're generally talking fitness, human performance, and exercise science. And tonight we're delving into my other passion, which is biblical creationism and fighting against evolution. And I think this is one of the most critical topics that you can possibly discuss because your view of your origins is going to determine your world view. And it's interesting that creationists are so hated by people all over the world and my buddy tonight who's coming on board may be now. He may have the title of world's most hated creationist. Loved by us, hated by everybody else, Matt Powell. And Matt has got a gentle spirit, an incredible brain, and the ability to really explain things on a level that people can pick up. He's got quite the following and that includes me. Really love hearing the guy speaking. Can't wait tonight to tackle this together. What we're going to do in the title of our video tonight is slamming the door on the creation evolution debate once and for all. Could that be done? You know, we think the evidence says so, but, you know, the debate will, of course, rage on. So Matt's running a couple minutes late. Should be here just any minute now. And I want to make a statement, you know, and this is, you know, I'm not intimidated by the atheists and insults and things like that. That doesn't bother me at all. But I'm going to go out and make a statement, you know, that I want creation to be true. I want that to be true. I want there to be a biblical God. I want the world to make sense. I want to know, you know, the hope that I'll see my loved ones again. And, you know, I want that to be true. But that's not why I believe it. I want it to be true. But the evidence is what pushes me to believe it. This is not a blind faith thing. And that's where people are sometimes a little confused. And, you know, we do this because we want evolutionists to come to a knowledge of the word of God and help them. And they attack with like cursing and insults and just flagrant, just absolute, just unbelievable. Like out of the realm of how I really think a human being should maybe ever act. But to me, it makes me think, you know, why do you believe that? Do you really believe that because the evidence is there? Do you believe that because you don't want the accountability of knowing that you're going to have to answer to somebody? Are you? I don't understand. And then if that's the case, why if you're going to if you came from nothing and you're going to nothing, which is an oversimplification, but maybe it's not exactly what it means. If you came from nothing and you mean nothing and you're going to nothing, then why would you waste any of your precious time on Earth arguing with a creationist over what they believe? Man, eat, drink and be merry because, dude, time is running out. And what are you what are you thinking, spending your time doing that, especially insulting somebody that would be as nice as this guy, Matt Powell? What's up, buddy? Hey, not too much. How are you? I'm doing good. I kind of got on a little rant a little early while I was waiting on you. And a lot of your normal followers are already on board and they're watching. And apparently they have a hard time understanding why you would be hated. Yeah, sometimes I don't understand either, but it reminds me of what Jesus said when he said that you'll be hated of all nations for my name's sake. So anybody that claims the name of Christ is automatically just going to be hated by the world and especially the atheistic and the evolutionists that are out there. Well, I'm with you guys. I don't know how anybody could hate such a nice guy. And, you know, I've watched almost all your debates and it's interesting how you are always so gentle and humble with them and you never attack them. You just simply ask questions and let them back themselves into a hole and they really hate you for it. Yeah, well, their position is impossible to defend with honesty. It's like anybody that knows science, anybody that knows the laws of physics, knows that evolution is just a fairy tale and something that's impossible to defend with any integrity or any honesty. It's an indefensible position, even if you just use intermediate or basic science all the way to advanced science. It's just flat out indefensible. Well, tonight what we want to do is kind of drop the hammer and the title of our video is slamming the door on the debate once and for all. And again, could that be done in our eyes? Absolutely. You know, I think if you look at the evidence, it's just not that hard. And kind of the idea tonight is to look at the at the multitude of evidences that one has to dismiss before they can say creation, biblical creation isn't true. So we want to start and we're just going to kind of dive right in if that's OK with you. Let's start with just origins. And, you know, I hear your debates and, you know, of course, I watch others. And there's a before we can ever begin the discussion on what's a kind and is there a transitional fossil? We have to figure out where this stuff came from. And it's very interesting to me that so many just want to skip over that. It's like, you know, when you say they came from Iraq and we didn't come from Iraq. Wait a minute. Let's back up. Did the earth come? You know, and you build this thing up. They truly don't want to deal with the fact that they don't know. So tell us a little bit about the beginning of origins. Well, it's hilarious to me because they think that what we cannot do on purpose somehow happened by accident with all the most high tech instruments in the world. And with all of the technology that we have in a laboratory, we can actually mimic what the environment would have been like, quote unquote, back then. And we can't do it. And what's hilarious to me is I was just thinking about this today. They say that over time, the impossible will somehow become possible and the impossibility of life coming from nonlife will somehow spring up over time. Well, if you're going to have life and little forms of a biogenesis popping up here and there, since time has gone by millions of years, we should see little forms of life popping up from nonlife if things are truly becoming more complex over time. But what we actually see is that things are deteriorating over time. Organisms are starting to fail. We as human beings are losing one to two percent of our genetic information per generation. So things are going downhill constantly. So to think that life could somehow construct itself from nonliving material, that is just crazy and bizarre. It's only the Internet atheists that say that it's possible that life could come from nonlife. All of the other scientists, they schedule these big conferences to figure out how this could even be the case. And they'll even admit that we're a mathematical impossibility. And it's funny because atheists always say, well, we don't believe in miracles. Well, Stephen Hawking said, and I quote, he said, we are a mathematical impossibility. That is a miracle by definition. So atheists literally believe in miracles. I was talking to one recently and actually this was about two years ago that this instance happened. And he said, well, I don't understand how you could believe that a virgin could conceive. But here's the thing. They think a rock conceived. So whenever they say, well, it's so crazy to think a virgin conceived, they're actually just trying to cover up themselves. It's the fallacy of false equivalence when they project their own shortcomings onto the creationists. So they actually project their shortcoming of believing they came from a rock onto us by trying to use a blanket statement and say, so crazy that a virgin conceived. Well, they think that rocks conceived over millions of years and that impossibilities somehow magically became possible. They believe in full blown mystical primitive superstition and magic. The creationist worldview is not magical. It's not magical to say that somebody created the laws of physics and operates outside of them or created life. But it's magical to say that life came into existence and popped into existence uncaused and the time, space and matter itself popped into existence from nothing. If I said that in my backyard, all of a sudden, a giant boulder just popped into existence from nothing, people would say, you're crazy. You're out of your mind, dude. But they think the whole universe popped into existence from nothing. Ex nihilo. So everything that they believe is based in magic and once again, primitive superstition, they say the Bible's primitive superstition. OK, well, we have proof for just about every archaeological thing in the Bible. And so it's just another blanket statement that we've all heard a million times that they like to make at us. And I'm glad we're having this discussion, brother. I think it's beneficial to lay out the facts just plain and clear. Well, there's so many of them, it's going to be difficult to kind of keep it reeled in, you know, and two things out of what you just said. This is something that everybody listening should keep in their mind. If so, the formation of the universe, the special creation would be a miracle. Right. So what people have to understand is that if any miracle, anything supernatural has ever happened, then all supernatural things or miracles are possible. So the fact that after creation, virgin birth, OK, that's no challenge when you consider that everything in existence was created from nothing by God. That fits fine with our view. And then I want to make one other comment when you said about the boulder. You know, if the universe popped into existence from nothing, OK, then we've got a big problem on our hands because what's stopping things from just randomly popping into existence at any given time? So if you're on vacation, what's stopping a hippopotamus from popping into your living room and destroying your house? I mean, theoretically, if things just pop into being from nothing, man, we should be scared to walk down the street because you never know what could pop into existence. Right. Well, I totally agree with that. And that's that's their worldview. We should be seeing if something can come from nothing, we should see that repeatable. If it's scientific, it has to be repeatable, demonstrable, testable, etc. So we should see it repeated in nature. But yet we don't see it anywhere. In fact, we see the exact opposite. That's what fantasy is. That's fiction to say. And here's the thing. The atheists, they get all upset with us for pointing these things out. And they'll say, well, you just make believing in the Bible. You're just a make believer. But here's the thing. They think that there is no purpose to life, but they've decided to pretend that there is anyway by attacking us. So they make it their purpose to tell everybody that there is no purpose. And when you ask them, what is the purpose to life? They'll say, well, my purpose of my life is, well, whatever I make up. Well, what they're admitting is that they're making up or make believing a purpose for life. So they don't actually think there's a purpose, but they decided to make believe. But then they'll tell people like us, Alan, you guys are make believing in the Bible. It's like they'll say believing in Jesus is, you know, Jesus didn't exist. OK, well, 98 percent of scholars believe Jesus existed, number one. So these people don't believe in any sort of scholarship. And I've been over this with them a million times. And it's just like they don't understand it. But you can't help those who don't want to understand because they would rather believe in magic imaginary things and make believe instead of believing in the facts and what science has shown us. Well, I think when we're done tonight, we're going to have covered quite a few things that should kind of put the nail in the coffin on the argument. So the first topic was which we've already covered is origin. So we, of course, the idea of God creating everything explains the time space matter problem instantly in the first verse of the Bible. So we're good. OK. The problem that I struggle with if I even take a notion to attempt to understand their view is how the time, space and matter pop into nothing together. So I guess the simple version is if you have matter, but no time and space, when and where would you put it? It's got to come together. So for us, the theory of origins fits perfectly with the biblical model. For them, there's a very difficult problem explaining where, how, where the energy come from, where the matter come from, who wound this thing up, who set it in motion. If nothing doesn't produce anything now, why did something produce anything then? My brain can't calculate the, I don't want to use an insulting word, but the ignorance of thinking that that could possibly happen. So we covered origins. We have time, space and matter, all supported by our view of creation and what you just explained as the literal impossibility that something came from nothing and that complexity in evolution is happening because it's not. So next, let's go fossils. OK, let's just go there. So my view as a regular guy says, all right, so we've got fossils of giant animals all over the world. How could we have gotten that? So I was in Arizona at the Dinosaur State Park. Cool place that got these replicas of dinosaurs walking around out in the desert, not literally walking, just big statues. And they have a, I should have, I've got a couple of these replicas here, but they have like some dinosaur stuff, right? So this guy that works there comes up and he's got a little rock and he says, hey, you want to buy this? This is a piece of 65 million year old dinosaur dung. I said, oh, really? How do you tell that it's dung? He goes, oh, you stick your tongue on it. And then he pulled it off and his tongue stuck to the end of it and then it pops off. I don't know how that proved anything, but he goes, see, it's got such and such it's fossilized. That proves it's dung. I'm like, well, I don't know if I would put my tongue on it or not, but how do you date that dung? He goes, oh, that's simple. He goes, we date it by the layer of earth that it's found in. I said, that's interesting. And I had my six year old daughter running the camera. I said, how do we date those layers? Oh, that's easy. We date it by the stuff that's found in it. So, yeah, I said, thank you very much. I just walked off. But the idea that we have fossils all over the world screams to me, flood. While we were out there, and I just wanted to tell you this, I've been waiting to tell you this all day. We were at the asteroid impact site out there. And I'm doing these interviews just to get stories I could tell later. And this lady said, millions of years ago, all of this area was underwater. So I raised my hand. I said, ma'am, could that have been from a worldwide flood? She goes, oh, no, no. I go, wait a second. So everything was underwater, but it could not have been a flood. She goes, no. I go, okay. So help me understand that. So fossils to me proved the flood. Well, there's no doubt that the fossils at all are proof that the earth was covered in those areas. And the fact that we find them all over the place proves that it was a catastrophic event. And so that's a great story. And it's funny because these people, when you bring these things up to them, like you mentioned there, it doesn't really hit them, that circular reasoning. And sometimes it'll hit them later on and they'll ask questions later. But fossils and Noah's flood are a great argument. And one of the things that I love is just this morning I was doing some research and I found that recently we found a T-Rex that was buried in 50 feet of sediment and it was buried by water. Well, there's no way that you can explain it. It still had blood vessels and tissue that's left over, that's organic soft material that could not have possibly lasted millions of years. So it was perfectly preserved and it was preserved. It was buried alive. And we also find, and now you're going to love this one, fossilized whales that are fully preserved. Now, when a whale dies, it floats to the surface because it's 35 percent fat and it gets eaten by buzzards and by seagulls and sea animals. They don't last. They don't even get fossilized. Whales virtually never get fossilized. And so what happens is they then get beached and then crabs and everything else come and eat the cartilage. Whales just don't last, whale fossils. But what we're finding all throughout the United States is whales that are perfectly preserved, fossilized on the top of mountains. So that's deductive proof right there that those mountains were once covered with water. You know, you could argue they're pushed up through plate tectonic shifts, but the only way that that could have happened is from the flood waters coming in, the fountains of the deep breaking up and whales getting placed on the top of these mountains all throughout the United States. And they still have the fat in them. So these whales were buried alive on the top of mountains. So that's one of my favorite proofs for NOAA's flood is just the fact that we find whales, we find clams on Mount Everest that are buried in the closed position, proving they were buried alive. And if you look at the Grand Canyon, because the one of the most beautiful things about it is because evolutionists will always go to Grand Canyon to say this proves the millions of years. Well, here's the thing. It supposedly represents about 500 million years, the Grand Canyon, but yet there are millions of years missing here and there. There's 10 million years missing here, 100 million years of missing strata there. It's gone. So according to their own theory, the Grand Canyon doesn't make any sense. And if you look at the layers of the Grand Canyon, if I was to step outside right now, I would see animal holes occasionally. I would find like a groundhog hole or a root hole from a tree that grows. So if those layers were slow to form, we would expect to find animal holes burrowing down in between the layers. Right. Because vegetation and animals would live there. Yet we don't find any in any of the layers of strata. So what that proves is that the layers were actually all deposited in one event and that it couldn't possibly be done in millions and millions of years. It was one big event. And that's why we don't find any animal holes or root remains. And I mean, there's just countless proofs for Noah's Flood. I mean, we find dinosaur tracks that stomp through and bend the rock layers of millions of years of quote unquote geologic time. And what I find really hilarious and I'll end with this. The Grand Canyon, if you ask an evolutionist, what is the Grand Canyon? What's it made out of? They'll say it's made of sedimentary rock. The definition of sedimentary rock is rock that's laid down by water. So literally the definition of the Grand Canyon is a canyon that was created by a flood just by the very definition. So by the definition of Grand Canyon being sedimentary rock, we've won just by the definition of the canyon. Well, we went to the Grand Canyon and did the tour and we were on the tour bus and the guy said it went through his little spiel, right? And when we were done, we were riding around and I said, excuse me. And he looks at me and I said, how was the Grand Canyon really formed? He looked at me and said, how was it really formed or what am I supposed to tell you? I'll never forget it. I go, what are you supposed to tell me? He goes, carved out by the Colorado River over millions of years. And I said, how was it really formed? He goes, global worldwide flood. The breach of a giant dam. Just did not even pause. You could tell he thought one thing, but he was being paid to teach something else. Right. And it's funny because they always say the creationists are con men and people have accused me. They're like, you charlatan. But here's the thing. They're the ones that are making the money. If I wanted to make money, you know, I could get the bow tie and be like Bill Nye, the science guy. But that would make me money. But here's the thing. We'd have to be accountable to God for that behavior. And so whenever they say you look good in a bow tie, you look good in a bow tie. Right. It's funny. My wife actually said that. But what's really hilarious about these guys is they actually say that that we're in this for the money. So we're really trying to rake in the dough and we're really fleecing the flock when they're teaching a religion of atheism that is state endorsed. And it's the only theory protected by law. Evolution is. So since it's protected by law, they don't allow free thought outside of it. So they'll cry out free thinker all day. But they don't actually believe that you're allowed to free think outside of evolution because it's protected by law. So, I mean, this stuff that they do is bizarre. And almost every time they throw a blanket statement out at a Christian, they're just projecting their own shortcomings on us. And so I just put it back on them immediately. And that's why they hate me. That's why they'll hate you for even having this discussion. I'm OK. I'm not intimidated by that. Guys, if you are here and you don't believe in creation, it's cool. You're welcome to your opinion and we're glad you're here. And if you have a question, please ask it. But if you curse or if you use any type of inappropriate language, then we'll just delete your comment and it's not going to faze us. But if you want a genuine answer, please ask a question and we will get back through these a little bit later. But to me, Matt, to wrap up sort of my view of that, simply the presence of fossils anywhere screams evidence for the flood. An example that I typically use when I'm speaking is, you know, we may have bison that die all over the desert all the time and animals that die. And you never find a fossil of any kind because scavengers destroy them. A fossil requires rapid burial for the sediment to fossilize the bone. Without the rapid, rapid burial, as in a flood, you don't get fossils. So the sheer presence of them all over the world screams that there was a flood. So the next one I wanted to sort of discuss is, you know, a younger creation or a biblical timeline would say that the flood was probably 4400, 4600 years ago. Right. So I think it's very interesting that human history, which begins around that time. So interesting to me that it just happens to coincide together with the Bible that, OK, here's when this happened. These are when these generations began to multiply and begin to go out and fill the earth. And this is what we have as a record of human history. We have language, we have society, we have what we would consider some form of civilization all kicking up around the time that fits with the biblical timeline with human history. It's incredible. Yeah. And just to go off of that, do you mind if I talk a little bit about the fossils and tie it in with the flood, too? Oh, no. Guys, again, keep asking your questions. We will come back and hit those in a few minutes. Feel free to keep going. Go ahead, my man. Awesome. Yeah. So so just to kind of loop around on that, too, because you're right, it is hard to trace back before the flood because everything was destroyed. So, you know, we see a bottleneck back there genetically. So if we trace back animal genomes to that period of time, we find that they all come from a common ancestor back at the time of Noah. So obviously they had a common set of parents. And you can do this with bird DNA. You can do this with rat DNA. You could do this with any almost any animal. Pick an animal that you want and you can trace it back to two main parents and it occurring at about 4400 years ago. Now, one of my favorite proofs of the flood is the fact that we find monkey fossils that are out of place. So, for example, we find monkey fossils over in South America. And according to evolution, monkeys didn't exist there. So their conclusion is the evolutionists will say, well, monkeys must have rafted on debris across the ocean from Africa to South America. Thirty four million years ago. And that's how the monkeys got there. But here's the thing. We know that the flood put them there. So I actually tell the evolutionists now, hey, I agree with you. They rafted there. All right. But they didn't survive. They rode across the ocean. They could have started in Africa. I'll grant that premise. But they for sure got to South America and got buried from a flood. They think that duck billed dinosaurs surfed from I believe it's North America over to Africa. And they actually believe that because they found a duck billed dinosaur fossil there. Well, like you said earlier, fossil is just proof that it was rapidly buried. And just the fact that we're finding it there, it doesn't mean they surfed there or rafted on debris, as the article says. I mean, what what bizarre nonsense is that? And these are the people that these are the same people that want to tell you that everything in the Bible is somehow fiction and fantasy. What kind of fantasy is that? That dinosaurs surfed across an ocean on rafts or that monkeys surf the Atlantic or that now were rats. In Oxford 2009 paper, I have to back this up because evolutionists say you're making that up. That's not what that's not what we believe. They believe that rats cross the ocean and surf from Africa to South America as well. So what they're saying is, well, all these fossils are found in all these weird places. What's going on? Well, I'll tell you what's going on. You know, actually, no, the Bible already told you what happened. You know, dust it off your shelf and you're going to find that, you know, about forty four thousand plus years ago, there was a catastrophic event which explains the bottlenecks in the genetic code. It explains the fossils that we find, period. Like you mentioned. Great point. And also, it completely explains why we find fossils that are out of place. According to evolution theory, it explains everything to a T and to deny the flood. You're you're believing in primitive superstition at that point, because the only way those fossils got there is by rafting across the ocean. I mean, this stuff is straight out of the weekly world news. This is not science that they believe. This is a religion that is based on unsupported assertions and blind faith. Well, move that to, since you flowed so well into that, go straight to the human history. So we've got forty six hundred years or so of human history that correlates back to the flood. To me, that's an evidence. What I'm kind of looking at today, and it's hard because there's so much everything makes sense in a biblical world view and nothing makes sense from an evolutionist world view. It just doesn't. Things just don't fit to me. So if hominids walked upright three point six million years ago, where are all the fossils of all the bodies? Where's the evidence of that? It took them three point five million nine hundred and seven thousand years before they learned how to write or communicate. That's when history started. There's no evidence of that. You know, there isn't anything but our view right now. We've flown from the Bible explains origins. OK, well, we get that it makes sense of of the planets and the stars and complexity. And then it explains the origin of life. So things come into being by God. And here's what we expect. And and this is what we have. And then we have the flood and we have evidence that supports the flood. And then we go to human history. And with human history, we find it starting at the right point that would correlate along with a biblical timeline. And then we can flow through that biblical timeline to a historical figure named Jesus. And this continues. I guess my point today, buddy, was to make people understand that, OK, we have the creation evolution debate. We we have that. All right. And we can argue something very important, though, is science doesn't say anything. Scientists say things. So we're all looking at the same evidence, how the scientists you listen to interprets that. But the science doesn't talk. Only the scientists talk. And I see this evidence stacking up to support the biblical view layer after layer after layer. And at the end, we'll get to the primary evidence that evolution has. And it's just not going to take very long to cover what they what they use. So the historical Jesus, how many prophecies that this guy was going to be prophecies that this guy was going to be born? What are the odds that Jesus would walk on the planet as as prophesied in the scripture? Talk about that for a minute. Well, the odds are simply impossible. And Jesus even told people when he was on this earth, he says with men, this is impossible in Matthew 19. But with God, all things are possible. So with God, everything's possible, creating time, space and matter from nothing that is possible. It's consistent with the laws of physics. And, you know, Jesus, like I said earlier, 98 percent of scholars believe that Jesus was a real human, that he walked this earth. Now, obviously, we believe he is God, but they believe in the historical Jesus. And it just amazes me in the human sense. I want to clarify that. But it just amazes me that people will go on and on about how they think Jesus never existed. And they throw out that blanket statement that they're just parroting from somebody else that they didn't take time to think about. But 98 percent of scholars really let that sink in. Viewer, 98 percent of people that study history, that take their time. And they're like, what do the professionals say? OK, let's that's what the professionals say. If you if if you really want to go down that route, the professionals say that Jesus was a real human. He walked this earth. He died on a cross and he rose again. And that's the whole reason why we're even in 2021 A.D. Animus Domini after the death of or after the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. So when people say, you know, that Jesus never existed or they make fun of the resurrection. It's funny, I was in a debate not too long ago. Guy goes, I can't believe that you think that a Jewish man died resurrected. That must take so much faith. And I said, look, man, you believe that every living life form resurrected itself from non living material and came to life from the dead. I said, you as an atheist believe in a greater resurrection than I do than I do as a Christian. I believe Jesus had the power to lay down his life and take it again and himself. He says, I have the power to lay down, take it again myself. But they believe that every living life form came to life out of non existence from dead material to begin with. So not just one or two of their claims, but every single one of their claims. If they know what they're talking about, it's done in dishonesty. Sometimes it's just an ignorance. Sometimes they're just listening to celebrities. They don't get it from science. If they would sit down and read a science paper, they would understand that intelligent design is correct and that Jesus did exist. That is saying that that's consistent with philosophy, history, science, so on and so forth. It's completely consistent. It's inconsistent to deny that he even existed. That's just denying history because that's the whole reason we're in 2021 to begin with. Well, it's very interesting we had a comment say all of this has already been debunked. I'm like, you cannot see the forest for the trees if that is your view. We're not looking at one thing, which we could, and we don't need anything. We could just say we take the Bible by faith and what we experience in our own lives is enough evidence for us because that's just not natural. That change that occurs is a supernatural event all on its own. But we've got this stacked up layer after layer. And to make a blanket statement like this has all been debunked is simply running from the evidence and the overwhelming firepower that's just raining down right now. Because it's to me, I would hate to be in the shoes. It would be a literal insurmountable task to try to argue all of these things. So we have you went through the historical Jesus and proof of the resurrection. And of course, one of the one of the things used is, well, the miracles aren't possible. Well, we covered that back in the beginning. The fact that we're here is a miracle. If anything miraculous, anything supernatural has ever happened, then all things supernatural are possible. That doesn't prove they occurred, but it means that they are possible. So no matter what, these things are possible because nothing would be more of a supernatural miracle than the existence of the universe coming into being. So of course, we have the biblical record of history that ties in with secular records and things that continue to be verified. And Matt, I know I didn't prep you on exactly what we were covering. You just came in. So I'm throwing stuff at you guys. Matt has not been prepared. I have not told him about this. I sent him a little email with a simple breakdown, but did not plan this out for him. But Matt, the biblical record coincides with modern history and makes these things fit together, which just adds another layer to the evidences that we're presenting. Right. Well, I mean, the whole the Roman Empire, they often tortured Christians for believing in Jesus. And just the fact, think about this, because no atheist would deny that they were actually tortured, that millions of Christians were killed. And they go on and on. Oh, it's so terrible. The Holy Wars killed all these people. Well, here's the thing. Unbelievers were killing the Christians. People in their camp who didn't believe in the Lord Jesus Christ were very atheistic towards the Bible. And of course, many of them were polytheists. But are these people really going to die for a lie? I mean, Alan, I don't think you or I would give our lives for something that we believe could be fiction or a lie. I you know, if I'm going to die for something, I'm going to die for something that I actually believe in. And so these Christians that were put to death and that were burnt at the stake, they believed in it. And the reason they believed in it is because it's based on facts and evidence. And yes, even secular facts, even Romans. And this is what the historians base what they believe about history on. Even the Romans dealt with Jesus and they have historical records of their dealings with him. The ancient Greeks dealt with the Lord Jesus Christ. They also have records of dealing with him. And what I also find interesting is that every single every single culture around the world believes in the flood. There has history about the flood of Noah. And so these people weren't just making this stuff up. These were eyewitness accounts. Hundreds of people recognized Jesus when he resurrected. And the Bible says that he would come back in the same way that he came. And I'm excited about that. And I and I believe that with all my heart. And, you know, I just think that when it comes to secular history, even the evidence is overwhelming. And Jesus said that or the Bible says in Acts that Jesus, when he rose, that he gave us many infallible proofs of his resurrection. Infallible proofs. So they said, give me evidence. OK, I'll provide you proof. And here's the thing. People don't always say that people won't always believe the proof or the truth. They will often go with somebody who thought he was living in a fantasy land like Charles Darwin. Charles Darwin said, and I quote, he said, often a cold shutters run through me and I've asked myself whether I've dedicated my life to a fantasy. So Charles Darwin was afraid he was living in a fantasy. So when somebody goes and puts their fish on his car, I share that with them. I say, look, Charles, you're representing a man who is afraid he was living in fantasy land. Jesus said, I'm the way, the truth and the life. Jesus spoke in absolutes. Darwin spoke in, oh, well, my world could be a fantasy. Charles Darwin couldn't even get a job. His dad had to get him a job as a comforter for a ship captain out on the sea. His dad, I mean, the guy was an absolute, by definition, a loser. You know, I'm not trying to be mean or arrogant towards Charles Darwin there. But the truth of the matter is he didn't apply himself and he was afraid. Number one, he was living in a fantasy. Number two, he couldn't even get a job. So when they go and put the Darwin fish eating the Jesus fish. They're representing a man that didn't even know anything, couldn't even get a job. Whereas Jesus, he dives buried, resurrected, shook up all of history. The power is on our side. The fantasy and fiction, science fiction. Like I'm telling you, brother, these guys that come up with this stuff, I think it's just based on like Star Trek or Star Wars. You know, they literally think that bats and monkeys are related and that bats and monkeys shared, actually monkeys had wings at one point. They did, in the land of Oz. Straight out of the Wizard of Oz. That's where they get it. Straight out of the Wizard of Oz. They didn't get it from studying science. They got it from their own vain imaginations. And in closing on this point, the Bible says, why did the heathen rage and the people imagine a vain thing? So it's funny. I was talking to this guy, Raging Atheist. He goes, it takes an imagination to consider all this stuff, but his name is raging. So why did the heathen rage and the people imagine a vain thing? The Bible verses fit these gentlemen perfectly. Well, there's one thing that's always just really stood out to me is that why is the name Jesus the only one that's being used in vain, put his cuss words, criticized, attacked. You don't see a Darwin fish eating a little Buddha statue. You don't see any other religions attacked. That alone should make people go, huh, I wonder why they're the only ones we attack because the Bible said you would and because it's the only one that's real and true. And that's why, you know, I think Satan leads them to that attack and they don't see it. I'm like, guys, think of how come you're not anti Hare Krishna? You know, you're not anti anything other than Jesus. Well, you know, what's really funny is it? Yeah, go ahead. Sorry. No, no, I'd like to hear what you're going to say. Well, what's really hilarious about so so whenever you talk to them, even their name, you know how I mentioned earlier how the Grand Canyon, by definition, was caused by the flood, just by the definition, their definition, the word atheist, if we break it down, it just means somebody who is a non believer in God. Well, what if I said I'm a non believer in fishing, so I'm going to call myself a non fisherman. That wouldn't really make any sense, except for unless it hit me on a personal level and I really hated fishing. So the Bible says that, you know, there's workers of iniquity who hate the Lord Jesus Christ. And so these people, it hits them on a personal level. So they've decided to actually define themselves by what they don't believe in. So if I asked you like, Alan, what do you like to do? You're not going to say, well, I don't like God. I'm an atheist. You're not going to tell me you're not going to define your life by what you don't like. But they actually define themselves by what they don't like and what they don't believe in. And then, of course, they're going to tell you, oh, we're scientific and logical. When just their own name, atheist, just the word atheist is a ridiculous thing to call yourself, because you're defining yourself by a negative rather than something you actually believe in. Even when we discuss the formation of the universe, uni is Latin for single and versus spoken sentence. So the word universe means single spoken sentence. So every time you say the origin of the universe, you know, there's some problems there with just your basic wordage. So we've covered through quite a few things. So we've looked at the origin and we've explained that. And then with creation. And then we went through the flood and fossils and human history and the historical Jesus and the resurrection of Jesus. And miracles that are possible because of if everything came into being, which we believe God, of course, did it. But the existence of the universe alone is a supernatural miracle. So all miracles are possible. And we went through how human history correlates with biblical history. And to me, when you layer all of these things together, it's absolutely overwhelming to support biblical creation. And again, we went through a very rudimentary outline. And these are things that we could possibly get back together and do. Ten of these and break each one down individually because, you know, we're going to get some haters. We're definitely going to get some haters. But to me, this is this is overwhelming. So now I look at and I'm not trying to be funny in any shape or form, but I look at what does. What's the actual evidence that evolution would have to support it? Like if I was going to argue that and I've studied this for quite a while, I'm going to argue that the only thing that I have. I don't know where time, space and matter came from. I don't know where the energy came from. I can't explain this expansion that contained everything in the universe that exploded out of nothing, not trying to even be funny. It sounds like it, but I'm not. I can't explain that. So I can't explain the origin of life from non-life. I can't explain how anything just popped into being. But what I can do is look at the animals that we have on the planet and say, look at there. We have mutations among certain variations of these animals, which is proving that they're evolving or could have evolved. That really is all they have. But it fits perfectly with our timeline because I believe that God would be intelligent enough to create a genetic code which would produce unlimited variability among its existing kind. And I'm going to tell you this. I've never said this to anybody online or before, but this just crossed my mind. And this may be too much of an oversimplification of this, but I know that a common argument among the evolutionists is you can't define kind. They try to say you can't define time. Okay. I thought about this just randomly a few months ago. The Bible doesn't necessarily separate what kind is. A kind could be anything in the air, anything in the sea, or anything walking on the ground. It doesn't say we're going to produce raccoons and rabbits and bears and trees and frogs and fish and birds of the air, things of the air, things of the sea, things of the earth, things that scurry on the ground. Well, there's birds, land animals, bugs, or reptiles, and fish. Now, that may be an oversimplification, but am I missing something? Because I don't think the Bible even tries because all land animals would produce after their kind. Now, those kinds have some variability in there, but tell me what you think of that. Yeah, defining a kind is not easy, and I've always said that to evolutionists, just as they have a hard time defining species. So, we both face actually the same issue. Now, I assign kinds to families of animals, and if you want to trace back in the genome, you can actually see where they're linked. So, for example, the black squirrel and the orange squirrel, they are linked back thousands of years ago or even hundreds of years ago, and they speciate very quickly. Speciation happens so fast. And just to debunk their claim that mutations, and it's so funny, whenever an evolutionist says mutations are our proof and it's all they've got, really, you're right. Whenever they say that, it just goes to show they don't even know what a mutation is. The definition of a mutation is copying error. So, by all these errors, somehow we've gotten perfect. That's their logic. So, and they'll run to, you know, what are the organs that we lose? Vestigial. Vestigial organs. They'll say, well, vestigial organs are proof that we're, you know, we're evolving. Well, okay, so by losing organs, somehow we've gained it all. By losing things and by errors, all of a sudden we have perfection. Like, what on earth? This isn't just unscientific. This stuff is bizarre, you know, to say that all these errors somehow add up and make perfect. Because mutation, by definition, is an error. And I've never actually had any of them address that point, ever, alive in debate. They never do it because they can't do it. Because once again, it's an impossible to defend, honestly. The position is impossible to defend, honestly. And that's why R and Ra and these people, they won't debate us anymore. And they won't even debate my friends at Standing for Truth or any of the other creationist channels. Standing for Truth is on tonight, by the way. Yeah, they're top notch. Check those guys out. Yeah. And, you know, they just, they don't want to do it anymore. And I understand why, because we have the scientific papers. They have to, if they're good at it, they can twist papers. But when you look at the papers after the fact, it's like, that's not what that was saying at all. Well, don't you think the average person is able to see through the belligerent intimidation, you know, trying to be some bigger than life intimidating form to scare people or that evolution has, I don't know. I just, I see some of the stuff and it's very, it's very, what's a good word, disturbing how they portray themselves, how they speak to people. If I'm watching anything and the person who is speaking is a foul mouth, very rude, I just change the channel. Like, I'm not going to, I don't consider you an expert. You can't even complete a sentence without insulting someone. You're not someone I'm going to listen to. So it is nice every now and then to hear a polite evolutionist who debates and gives their evidence. And many times I watched one recently where he said, you know, you could be right about that. I mean, he was just very humble, you know, and I made a comment on another person's channel that said, that guy would make a good creationist because he's just a humble guy and he's trying his best. He's trying to learn. But that's not R.N. Ra raging atheist. These guys are just trying to intimidate you by what? To me, that's kind of comical and it makes you look, you represent Christianity well, you represent God well, you represent yourself well in the way that you handle these guys. Praise the Lord. You know, it's interesting. R.N. Ra actually recently said, he said, if it was the God of the Bible that existed, he said, I would not worship it. He said, if it was true, he says, I would not worship it. Well, here's the thing. You know, it just goes to show he doesn't really love people because God is love. And not only that, if you really believe that the God of the Bible existed and that certain people would go to hell without him, you would actually get saved and go tell people about Jesus Christ if you loved people. But because he's so angry at God and because he hates God so bad and he's decided to define himself as an atheist or somebody that is a non-believer in Jesus, like a non-fisherman or a non-stand collector, which just doesn't make any sense, he's gone totally off the rails. But people follow him because he's charismatic and he is a bully. And bullying actually, it's a form psychologically in our brains. There's a chemical that gets released that if somebody bullies you, that chemical gets released and you think subconsciously that what that person is saying is true based on their bullying. And so that's why they bully people into being atheists. They don't say, hey, here's my science and reason. They'll say, hey, believe this or else. This is protected by law. And if you question it in the classroom, well, come see me in the office. And it's funny because these people don't even know what evolution actually teaches. When you actually break it down to them, they don't even know. They know about mutations. But what's interesting is let's grant their argument that mutations happen. OK, so we'll say that we'll just pretend the errors somehow create positive information and it works. And their model is just so incredible based on errors, making things perfect. Let's just enter in a fantasy land and pretend it's true. Even if that's the case, you're taking information from one parent, information from another parent, slapping that information together, creating offspring. That's like slapping peanut butter and jelly together and they're saying, oh, that's perfectly new information. No, it's taking pre-existing information and putting that information together. It's not creating new information. This is science 101. Speaking of peanut butter and jelly, I have to give you what I think is going to be my favorite comment of the night. I'm glad those monkeys remembered to make peanut butter and jellies for the road trip and remembered to bring plenty of water. Chad, you win, buddy. You won. I've been watching the comments go through and that's great, buddy. That's good. So, you know, I'm glad we could get together and start this. And maybe it's the shape of things to come and we're going to tackle some more of these. I was bullied as a child. I actually teach people for a living how to deal with bullies. I teach Israeli Krav Maga. And it's interesting what you said because you know more about bullies than most people. It is something in their brain and it's something else to have to deal with them. And I do think that your understanding of how that works is helping you deal with the hostility that you face every day. I feel bad for you when I see these guys. You handle yourself well. You don't need my help. But I feel bad that that's how they treat you. Hey, it's all good. I mean, they nailed Jesus to the cross. They haven't done anything to us yet. But, you know, I know my heart actually goes out to people like Kent Hovind because, man, he is under so much attack right now from, you know, just random people. And it just it crushes me. And I pray that he continues the ministry and that he just continues doing what he's doing because he undergoes so much attack. He's probably the most hated creationist on the planet. And the reason being is because he's gotten so many people saved and to faith in Jesus Christ. And, you know, and I'm so glad that we had this conversation because there's there's going to be a day where this video will be seen by somebody. And there could even be somebody listening to this right now who is an atheist who listened to some atheist channel, became an atheist and then saw this video and said, you know what? I decided to Google the information and is going to realize that, you know, that the Bible is a scientific historical fact. It's not it's not fiction. It's not a fairy tale. You know, I ask atheists all the time, would you ever debate me on the existence of Santa Claus or Bugs Bunny or Elmer Fudd? They wouldn't do it. They'll only debate you on somebody who's legitimate enough to debate against. They know that the Lord is legitimate enough to fight against. And none of them will fight against Lord of the Rings because they'll say, well, believing in Jesus is like believing in Lord of the Rings. OK, well, let's debate on Lord of the Rings. Do you know of anybody that writes books against Santa Claus or against the existence of, you know, the spaghetti monster? You know, and if the spaghetti monster existed, I like spaghetti. He wouldn't last long around me. So, you know, I think we have trouble getting people to help you take him on. What's oh, yeah, right. I'm with you. And it's just it's really sad that in 2021 that free thought has really turned into confined thought. People tell me all the time, you know, you're just trying to get people to not see the other side. I tell people the other side all the time, but it's because I compare it with the facts that they get all upset and bent out of shape. But what I find interesting is this phrase that they come at me with all the time. And I'm sure you've heard it, brother. They'll say, don't drink the Kool-Aid. Oh, my goodness. Don't get me started. You need to know where the origin of the phrase don't drink the Kool-Aid came from. It's incredible. It's incredible. And I've covered it in videos and and I just found out last week and Jim Jones. I mean, the guy was you made a video. You've made a video recently on that. You haven't seen that. You know, I know a lot of these people may be you're already following your channel. But guys, you've got to go back and watch that one. Matt's video on the phrase don't drink the Kool-Aid. And I do want to say one thing while I don't forget it regarding Kent Hovind. If you're new and you're new to this type of channel and you look up Kent Hovind and you see the negative naysayers talking about him. Do your own research before you judge. You know, the guy may or may not have made a mistake and something that he did. There's quite a bit of evidence that he did not. But nobody talks about that. And he handles it like do you want everything that you've ever done exposed out of your closet so that everybody can see it? And would you like to be accused of something that you may not have done and that be exposed to the entire world and that define you for the rest of your life? Kent Hovind is an absolutely. He is a juggernaut among creationists. I've watched him debate so many times and I've never seen him lose. And how can you know something about everything? Like he tends to hold his own no matter what the topic is. And he will even say, I don't know, I'll research that. But the man has handled this with an onslaught from around the world like nobody I think in modern time has dealt with. You're so right. He's dealt with evolutionary paleontologists, biologists, geologists, cosmologists. So all these guys specialize in all these things. But as creationists, Kent Hovind, even myself or yourself, we have to be a jack of all trades. We have to know all the scientific fields because we have to compete with every single one of them. These they home in on little fields and go real deep with them and then they'll ask you questions about stuff that you may not be familiar with. And so that's why I think that it's important to just know their side better than they know their side. So when they try to bring their side upon you, you can refute their side with their own side. They are masters at just misrepresenting misunderstood misinformation. And the misinformation is that monkeys served or octopus came from outer space so that we grew a beard through natural selection through punches to our face. Let me let me let me help you with that. I've trained professional fighters and I've been boxing since I was 14 years old. I can't grow a full beard and I've been punched a lot. So I don't think that's true. I don't think it's true. Like, where do these people come up with this stuff? You know, but it's not repeatable. It's not demonstrable. It's not even testable. And I guess you can test it. I guess you've tested. It hasn't worked out. You have not a beard yet. Yeah, I'm not getting any extra cushioning and I'm seeing a loss of information as a result of being punched, not a not an improvement. So it's funny because what they say is proof is actually proof for our side, not theirs. Deterioration because of sin. The genetic code. Sure, it could have started out perfectly. People say, what did the pre-flood world look like? I don't know. Ken Hovind might know. You might know. I haven't really researched it, but I do know that things were perfect. We don't really know what a genetically perfect code would look like. But right now we see that things are deteriorating, which means that if we go back far enough in time before sin, I would conclude that things would be perfect. And the Bible even said that man, when God created man, he saw that it was good, that he was good. It was good. He saw that his creation was good. It was it was good. So one of the comments at the very beginning said, and this was a troll who jumped out after he threw his words around and then he bailed, these people believe that Adam and Eve ate an apple and that's what caused all of these problems. I'm like, OK, so let's just let's just look at it in a simple way, OK? So if you were God and you created people and you were going to give them a rule so that they have free will and they had one rule. That's not a bad one. You know, you can have all of this, but you can't have this. It's not like he said, well, if you don't jump off that cliff, everything's going to be fine. I mean, it's really not that difficult to grasp, but you need it if you're going to have free will. You needed something that would allow you, allow God to test your ability to make a decision. So when that's the only thing you can come up with to argue with our entire discussion tonight, I think you're reaching a little deep when you still can't explain where the universe came from. Right. And not only that, it's just an assertion. So they're asserting that it's crazy, but they're not actually telling us why it's crazy. And here's the thing. It's not necessarily just because they ate the apple. It's because they just disobeyed God. That's what I always tell people is just disobedient. I give them a simple rule. So, you know, whenever they try to home in on things that they think sounds kooky or crazy in the word of God, I always like to just turn the mirror back on them on what evolution actually teaches, what they don't even know about. And, you know, it's funny because the atheist community of Austin. When I put out my film, The Atheist Religion, some of them had made responses and said, look, this is crazy stuff. This is bat wild crazy. And and nobody believes that monkeys surf the ocean. Well, a week later, they're eating their own words, saying, well, Matt Powell was right, but he's misrepresenting it. That's what they say. He's misrepresenting it. They didn't surf there. OK, we'll type in on Google when monkeys surfed. Pops right up. The title of the article is When Monkeys Surf to South America. That's the title. So I'm quoting them and they're saying that I'm somehow misrepresenting it when it's impossible to misrepresent based on quoting word for word what was said. So, you know, they want to shut down on all fronts. They don't want to publicize us anymore. And I've noticed that ever since I've started getting more knowledgeable in creation evolution, the amount of response videos has dropped substantially. And I've just decided to go ahead and respond to people as they attack me and with the facts. And every time it's undeniable who where the power of God is, the power of God is with the facts, with creation, with science that he created. And you can't create. You can't have rationality based on irrationality. And if the universe is just blobs of nothing floating out in space and it's all irrational, no logic, no reason whatsoever, you can't build reason on unreasonable things. And the Bible says that all men have not faith and that there are some who are wicked and unreasonable who have not faith. So the people who don't have faith in Jesus, the Bible says they're unreasonable. You can't really reason with them a lot of times. Well, I think if the universe is a giant expanse of a void and we're on a rock hurling 144,000 miles through it and nobody's driving, I think people should be literally petrified. Well, I would be terrified. I mean, anybody with a brain that really thinks about this stuff should be horrified because, you know, there was a professor that got up and gave his speech a while ago. I think it was back in the 90s. He says, folks, he says either there is a God or there isn't. He said both ideas are frightening. If there is no God, we're in trouble. We're hurtling around the sun at all these miles per hour and nobody's in charge. But if there is a God, we better find out who he is, what he wants and do what he says. There's only two concepts of religion. There's people who trust their works to go to heaven. Those of us who have been saved and trust Jesus and Jesus alone. Well, Matt, I want to hit this before we close. This person asks, Matt, what is your next and thanks, Andrew, for the question. Question for Matt. What is your next film project and how can we help? Hey, Andrew, thank you so much. You know, just just the greatest help that people can do for me is just to pray for me. Share my videos. You know, if you want to share them with your family, share them with your friends, try to get your friends saved. You know, share with atheists. A lot of atheists have come to faith in Jesus through certain videos that I put out. Maybe they don't even involve me. Maybe Ken Hovind. And I just happen to edit it. So I would recommend those things, just sharing the content. And when the film comes out, my project is on the Jehovah's Witness, Kingdom Hall, working on one on them. And then the next one I'm going to do after that is the final creation movie that I'm working on called The Case for Creation. I know there's the case for Christ, but this one will be the film The Case for Creation. And I'm excited about it. I'm going to be featuring Dr. Ra Matt. I'm going to try to get John Maddox on board, Dr. Hovind, Dr. Grady McMurtry, basically the dream team of young earth creationists. I may or may or may not be in it. I just like to do the film and put things together. But yeah, that's the best way to support me. Well, Matt, I'm glad you could come tonight. We've been about an hour and 10 minutes. So I think that's good for a night. We've given some good information. And just like you said, in the future, somebody will come across this video and hopefully they'll see that we're doing our best to just show the evidence. We don't have to attack anybody or insult anybody. We just want to look at that evidence and either show, you know, that it's reasonable and logical and believable or it's not. And I think what we've shown here and even in a just in an outline form is that the evidence for what we're what we believe is is backed with a lot of science, a lot of history, a lot of evidence. Amen. Amen. We don't just have blind faith. People accuse us of that, brother. But we put our faith in the facts. You know, it's a fact that Jesus existed and we are putting our faith and the flood is also a fact. And young earth creationism, you know, I've said this many times, I believe it's a scientific fact and we can put our faith or our trust in the facts. They say that faith is believing things without evidence. But the Bible actually says that faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. So that's what the Bible actually says. And faith, the definition is a confidence or trust in someone or something. So we put our trust in the witnesses of scripture. We put our trust in the Lord Jesus Christ, not the man who said he was living in a fantasy, not the man who couldn't get a job, not the man who failed in every avenue of life and came up with a ridiculous fish to fishermen theory. We put our faith in the man who rose from the dead and conquered death. And he's coming back to get us all out of this mess. Hopefully soon. But guys, if you're not subscribed to Matt's channel, please click the link in the description and jump over there. His channel will keep you busy for quite a while. And I like that you're producing more and more content on a regular basis. If you go on my phone and you go into the search, one of the first things that pops up is Matt Powell. Because I want to see what you do, see what you're doing. So Matt, thanks for joining me, man. Maybe we could get back again, get back together again and do something else like this. Guys, thanks to everybody that came and listened in tonight. Somebody made a comment, Matt, that was really nice. I should have saved it, but there's been so many, I can't get back to it. And she said, you know, when there aren't any trolls here, it's, and I'm paraphrasing what she said, but it's so nice just to be in a group among believers. Amen. You know, that's kind of nice to hear that, you know, you just have a discussion and people say, hey, you know, it's just nice being in a group of people like this because it's friendly, it's cordial and you feel like you're part of the community because you are. Right. Amen. We'll cut from here. You and I can talk a little bit after this and wrap things up. But guys, thanks for watching. My man, Matt Powell, make sure you subscribe to his channel if you're not and we'll see you again next time.