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Ecclesiastes 7 verse 5 it says it is better to hear the rebuke of the wise than for a man to hear the song of fools and and worldly music is the song of fools the song of people that don't believe on the lord why do you worship some wicked whoremonger with the you know they're demon-possessed people they're one of the 21st century's most successful rock bands selling more than 11 million units worldwide we're talking about the quartet from wisconsin known as skillet lead singer john cooper joins us now by skype to talk about their new album their faith and the ministry opportunities god has given them but what do you want the legacy of skillet to be legacy is skillet what i am most proud about is the fact that skillet i think has done something that is fairly unprecedented and that we have been on some of the biggest rock tours in the world open for the biggest rock bands of all time some of them iron maiden black sabbath uh slipknot that list can go on and on and on uh ozzy osbourne well the first single is called stars what do you hope people take away from that song oh man i am very excited about this song stars uh the story behind it is that truthfully i felt god speaking to me that you know skillet is a christian band we're a hard rock band we're a hard rock band but we not only do touring in the christian market we do a lot of touring uh all over the world with hard rock bands some of the biggest secular rock tours in the world we've been on every day more and more artists or bands in the christian industry this is an article i'm reading speak about shedding the title of christian in an interview with stl today front front man of the band skillet john cooper went into greater detail about why he and his band prefer to avoid using the word christian so this is how lame he is listen to this i just tell people i'm a hard rock band i leave christian out he told stl today a lot of people don't know what christian rock is yeah they do that's a lie or they think it's only for christian people we're not a band that only sings to christian people i meet tons of fans and i've had fans say i'm an atheist and i love your message well then you're not that's not christian if you're appealing to atheists your message isn't christian sorry you can put all the jesus words in there you want but it's not christian skill it's weak and the statement that statement there speaks volumes unto me i i just like clicked on one song just for like a few seconds uh i think it was last night share's like what are you listening to like garbage and i turned it off but the song was totally satanic i don't even remember what the name of the song was but i'm glad it's not like stuck in my head um that's why i want to listen to it for a few seconds i just want to see like is it super hard rock it is it's super hard rock talk about your faith in jesus christ and how it motivates you inside and outside the music industry oh gosh i mean my faith in jesus is is everything it's uh motivates me in everything that i do every time i take the stage i believe god is using me as a warrior um me and my band we always do like a you know like sports teams do before they go they have a chant you know they do their chant skill it's chant is always um that um that we are going into battle um galatians five verse 16 says this i say then walk in the spirit and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh how do you walk in the spirit when it comes to music singing to yourself in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs singing with melody in your heart to the lord singing with grace in your heart to the lord but verse 17 says for the flesh lusteth against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh and these are contrary to what the one to the other so that you cannot do the things that you would if you pump your brain full of that garbage all all week long you're not going to be filled with the spirit during those times it's contrary to the things of the spirit right you you're feeding the flesh with that kind of music and that's not what we're supposed to do because god doesn't say you know songs hymns spiritual songs and metallica okay because metallic is a christian band no they're not pantara is not a christian band so um examples of so-called christian artists and what they come up with