(Disclaimer: This transcript is auto-generated and may contain mistakes.) a couple things here now as i mentioned in the beginning this is often misinterpreted misused by false prophets to teach once you get saved you're just always going to do right obviously that's not true but let me just mention a couple things here because it gives you two pretty extreme examples right he says look if you're he that committed sin is of the devil and then it says in verse 9 whose service born of god doth not commit sin and you can kind of see when people read that and be like whoa hold on a second so am i of the devil if i'm like committing sin is that what this is saying well first and foremost you got to take into account that in this chapter it's giving you two extreme examples and it really manifests who that's talking about later on it's talking about cain and able cain is of the wicked one able is obviously a son of god okay now when he says there he that committed sin is of the devil for the devil's sin is from the beginning what i believe this is referring to are reprobates okay now you said why is that how do you know because we commit sin so if this is saying that doesn't that say that we we're committing sin are we the sons of the devil no let me explain what this means here first and foremost an individual who's not saved okay not saved you know they're not a reprobate they're not a child of the devil they're what the bible refers to as a child of disobedience okay they're they're they're a son of man so to speak okay they're a child of disobedience the bible tells us and you have to be quick and who were dead in trespasses and sin wherein in time past he walked according to the course of this world according to the prince of power of the air the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience among whom also we all had our conversation in time past than the lust of our flesh fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind and were by nature the children of wrath even as others so what is this telling us here prior to salvation we were just children of disobedience because it's not that we hated god it's just that we were only in the flesh we were natural people you know the bible says the natural man receiveth not the things of the spirit of god neither can he know him for the spiritually discerned so an unsaved person who's not a reprobate is simply known as a natural individual they do that which they are naturally inclined to do which is to sin okay now we know that when that individual is given the gospel they receive it they get saved they become some a son of god but there can come a point when an individual rejects god so much they begin to hate god that that person actually becomes a reprobate right and they transition from becoming a child of disobedience to becoming a child of the devil