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14, you know what else we should be ashamed of? Woman preachers, female preachers, that's what the Bible says we ought to be ashamed of. You say, oh man, I'm embarrassed about this sermon. Why don't you be embarrassed about a female preacher instead of the pastor who preaches against it? It says in 1 Corinthians 14.35, and if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home, for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. Did you see that? God says it's a shame for women to speak in the church. And yet, many times, God's people are ashamed of this verse. I mean, many Christians are ashamed where the Bible says, let your women keep silence in the churches, for it's not permitted. They're ashamed of it. Oh well, and they try to explain it away, oh that was back then, that was the culture, we're not like that. They're ashamed of the verse, they ought to be ashamed of Joyce Meyer. You know, and if I knew any other female preachers, I'd preach against that, that's the only one that I know of. Does anybody know of another one? Paula? Is that it? You're just making stuff up? Paula White? I thought that was a cooking show or something. Is that a preacher? Oh, okay, I was thinking of Paula Deen, okay, whatever. I can't get all these Paula's straight, whatever. Go back, well Paula White needs to start a cooking show, right? She needs to get out of the pulpit and get in the kitchen. That's what I was thinking of, alright.