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Here it says that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. Jesus Christ tasted death for us and that's why he said if a man keep my saying he shall not see death. He died for us so that we don't have to die. Put your finger there and flip back to John chapter 8 just to get that verse I just quoted. I believe it's in John 8. Go back to John chapter 8. The Bible says in John 8 verse 51, verily, verily I say unto you if a man keep my saying he shall never see death. Folks if you are saved you will never see death. Think about that. I mean that's what Jesus is promising. That's what it means to have eternal life. I'm never going to die. I will never see death. I will never experience death. I'm never going to know what that's like to be dead. What's it like to die? I don't know and I'll never know because Jesus said if a man keep my saying he shall never see death. Verse 52, then said the Jews unto him, now we know that thou hast the devil. Abraham's dead in the prophets and thou sayest if a man keep my saying he shall never taste of death. And of course Jesus goes on to explain that Abraham's not dead. He says in verse 56, your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day and was glad. So he's explaining here that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob aren't dead. God's not the God of the dead but of the living. So the death of the physical body is not death. That's why typically the Bible talks about Christians as being asleep in Jesus. They're asleep. That's why we often talk about people passing away and we use the term that they died and it's accurate to say that they died because of the fact that their body died. But the physical death of the body, if you go back to Hebrews chapter 2, the physical death of the body is not truly death at all. It's really just a departure. When Paul said for me to live is Christ and to die is gain, he said I have a desire to depart and to be with Christ. He said the time of my departure is at hand in 2 Timothy 4 when he was foreshadowing his physical death. Death is a departure. Death is just when we will shed this physical body, this shell will be left behind and we will go to be with the Lord in heaven. Our soul will go straight to heaven and we will never experience death. We will never be in a state of being called death. If someone said Steven Anderson is dead, it wouldn't be true. Now the body is dead but is that really me? Is that this husk that's left behind? No truly Steven Anderson will still be alive even after this body is dead. I will still be alive. That's what the Bible teaches. Now Jesus tasted death for every man. Now some people will try to downplay this like well that's just his spirit leaving his body. Here's the problem with that. The problem with that is this. If my spirit leaving my body isn't truly death, then if Jesus' spirit just left his body that wouldn't truly be death either would it? It would only be just a physical death but that's not even really death. But here's what Jesus said. Jesus said, I'm he that liveth and was dead. And behold I'm alive forevermore and have the keys of hell and of death. You know it says Jesus descended into the lower parts of the earth. It says that Jesus Christ was three days and three nights in the heart of the earth and if you know anything about the basics of how our earth is made up, you know that it's a sphere and that the heart of that would not be six feet under on the surface. That's not the heart. The heart would be the center. Think of an artichoke heart. It's not one of those little leaves that people dip in mayonnaise. It's the part on the inside. So when it talks about him being in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights, this is the same as Jesus descending into the lower parts of the earth in Ephesians chapter 4 and this is the same as when he said thou wilt not leave my soul in hell. Neither wilt thou suffer thine holy one to seek corruption. You see, hell is a place of death. The people that are there are dead. People that are in heaven are alive. Now when I say they're dead, don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that they're unconscious. I'm not saying that they have ceased to exist. Okay, they are considered dead though. Okay, they're conscious. You know, think of it however you want, but I'm just going to believe the Bible. See, and a lot of people, it's like they try to debunk the Bible or something. Just like they try to debunk Jesus dying for everybody. It's like why don't you just go with it? Jesus died for everybody. It's what it says. Just believe it. Well, here's what the Bible says. The Bible says that someday the dead are going to come out of hell and stand before God. I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God. Well, how could dead people stand up? Well, they just do. I don't know. I started to see how dead people could talk. Well, I don't care what you understand. People in hell are considered dead. They're in conscious torment. They're in conscious eternal torment throughout eternity burning in hell, but that's considered a place of death. That's not considered life or being alive. It's a state of death. It's eternal damnation and it's death, okay? So to have this and one of these lying phony preachers, you remember all these lying phony preachers that like attach themselves to me like some kind of a fungus or a parasite and just used me and then discarded me when they were done and now they routinely lie and teach all kinds of weird garbage? One of these bozos claimed recently that we believe that Jesus ceased to exist for three days and three nights. Really? That's insane. Of course, Jesus Christ did not cease to exist, but all we're saying is that Jesus was actually dead for three days and three nights and that Jesus actually tasted death for every man. Now, riddle me this. If Jesus Christ was not dead for three days and three nights or if Jesus Christ only died physically, you know, it was just a physical, that's just his soul leaving his body, he wasn't actually spiritually dead for three days and three nights, like actually in the place of the dead in hell for three days and three nights, then riddle me this. How can Jesus Christ taste of death for every man and then turn around and say that if we are saved, we won't taste of death? So just stop and think about this. Sometimes you just get flabbergasted with this. The Bible says that we're not going to taste of death. Does everybody understand that? Does that mean we're not going to die physically when it says we're not going to taste of death? Or is it saying we're not going to experience the state of being dead, like being in the place of death, being in hell and being in a dead condition? Because for us, death is just a departure and you don't even taste it. You don't even see it. You don't even taste it. It's just like, oh, I'm gone. So what was it like to be dead? I don't know. It was just a departure for me. So does everybody see the difference there? So if that's what it means when Jesus says you'll not taste of death, for you death is just a departure. Oh death, where is thy sting? Oh grave, where is thy victory? But then when Jesus tasted death, it's like, oh, that's just a physical death. Would that mean me and Jesus are doing the same stuff? Does everybody understand what I'm saying? Because I'm going to give up the ghost and my ghost is going to be doing great. If Jesus gave up the ghost and his ghost was doing great, then we both did the same thing. And that means either he didn't taste death or I tasted it too. But what does the Bible say? It says he did it so I don't have to. So whatever Jesus did, it's something I don't have to do. And it's something bad that I don't have to do. It's something I don't want to do. It's something I don't want to taste. It's something I don't want to see. Thank God he did it for me. See the difference between that kind of logic and their logic is that my logic is actually looking at the text of scripture and saying, this is what it says. I believe it. I believe it. I believe both. Makes sense. Done. That's the right kind of logic, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. Comparing John 8 with Hebrews 2. Not just philosophizing. Well, what could a dead man do? If I had a nickel for every Calvinist who said to me, what could a dead man do? But I can list a lot of things that a dead man can do. A dead man can stand before God and be judged. A dead man can burn in hell. A dead man can talk to Abraham. And you know, all of us, before we were saved, were spiritually dead in our trespasses and sins. What could a dead man do? I don't know. Eat, sleep, marry, give in marriage. I mean, you name it. So we've got to go by what the Bible says, folks. That was a little bit of a rabbit trail, but I have no regrets about it. Verse number 10, for it became him for whom are all things and by whom are all things and bringing many sons unto glory to make the captain of their salvation perfect through suffering. It turns out that Jesus, again, by him are all things, for him are all things, and that he's the captain of our salvation. Because remember, the context here is showing the greatness of Jesus, how he's superior to other angels, prophets, other beings besides God the Father, of course. He is superior to these others that he's being compared to. 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