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But you know, one thing that's frustrating as a pastor is that it really doesn't matter how you preach, you're still going to get people to follow you. And I can say, especially because our church is a lot bigger now, but in the early days, it was very frustrating to me because it's like, you know, I feel like I'm preaching the truth, and our church was still a pretty small church after a couple years, and I knew I wasn't doing anything wrong, but it's hard not to think about it. It's like, because you see a lot of other churches where the preaching is horrible, or it's complete heresy, and yet they have plenty of people there. And I'm just like, why would you even want to listen to that guy? Now, it's one thing if somebody's preaching heresy, because people can be unsaved or not realize it or whatever, but then there's people that are just bad at preaching or whatever, and it's like, and they've got a following, and I'm just like, I don't get it. It's like, it doesn't even matter what I say. It's like, there's still going to be people. Here's the difference though. When you do things the right way, you're going to get good people that follow you.