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Let me ask you, in John 6 verses 70 and 71, according to Jesus, was Judas saved at this time? Absolutely not. He said he is a devil. He doesn't say he will become a devil. He said he is present tense a devil. Jesus said at the beginning Judas was a phony. People try to say, well you can lose your salvation because look at Judas. Judas was never saved. He never believed. He pretended to believe. He never actually did. Why would he do that? Well Judas is the one that was in charge of the money. And Judas did this. Why? Because if that money had been put in the bag, guess what? Fifty percent Judas is going to put in his pocket and the other 50 percent is going to be used for the ministry. That's why Judas was in charge of the money and his sole reason for linking up with Jesus was for the purposes of money.