my problem is with the free will side of it and so well that's the that's the con
side of my argument the upside is we get more IQ the downside is you're telling
people what to do and people don't especially people in America we don't
really like that and you have to have some reason to have that authority
because you say well if she was at home putting her IQ towards something else
then we would really benefit from that more but that's your opinion and you
don't get to make other people live by your opinions so you have a you kind of
take offense to someone telling what to do does the university here give you any
instructions or tell you what to do at all they certainly do what about if you
do have a job yes does your boss tell you what to do yes
college is considered an institution of higher learning where students are
supposed to be challenged their ideas are questioned and to become the best
future leaders of our nation I decided to go to the University of Texas in
Austin to find out what the best and brightest of our state had to offer we
hear that our institutions are being infiltrated with feminism communism
liberalism atheism but maybe they have better ideas I put them to the challenge
to see if anyone could prove me wrong
what's your name Danny Danny nice to meet you Jonathan so real quick I'm just
curious because your statement on here is meant to get people to come and look
at it and I want to make sure that you mean what you say right there so I just
wanted to have an investigation into what do you mean by women should stay
home the devil's kind of in the details with something like that how are you
gonna instantiate that sure so the basic premise is that I think that women
should not go out into the workplace and get a career except there is some few
exceptions to that just in the sense that perhaps maybe she has no husband or
anybody to provide for her so so this is the basic premise a woman should get
married and stay home instead of going into the workplace that's basically the
premise of what I believe and there is no exceptions to that I thought you said
there were exceptions I'm saying just generally the statement I think women
should stay home generally there's exceptions to that but in the context of
her howdy having a husband she should not go out into the workplace okay so
the benefits of having women stay home outweigh the costs in your estimation I
believe it's it's God's instructions number one and number two I believe it
is superior God made both men and women in the image of himself meaning they
both have capacity to shape chaos or order out of chaos correct that is false
the Bible does not say that God created man and women in his image it says that
it created man in God's image women are created in the image of the man so the
Bible says in 1st Corinthians chapter 11 it says for in a man indeed ought not to
cover his head for as much as he is the image and glory of God but the woman is
the glory of the man so according to the Bible men look like God women do not
women are a separate creation and they're the glory of the man so there
is a distinction between men and women okay so your state system is there is a
distinction they're not there aren't capable of shaping chaos or order from
chaos do you believe they are or they aren't we can you re-read your question
I'll just make sure I understand it okay give me a moment okay humans what are we
essentially we're fighters on either good or evil correct chaos or order good
evil although those aren't the same thing I believe man has free will so he
can choose to do good or bad okay that's decent but I'm saying I'm saying
that they have the same capacity to act on the world men and women have the same
capacity to do good or evil I agree okay now I think that the benefits of women's
action in the world vis-a-vis doubling the workforce which also doubles our
possible pool of IQ outweighs the cost there's definitely a GDP argument to be
made if you have women into the workforce then you increase the output
from a labor perspective but that is a short-sighted view because what will
happen is you'll have a reduction in population because women will be less
likely to give birth and because of that reduction in population you're not gonna
have an exponential growth of the population so if you actually have women
staying home you're gonna have more children birth so the population will
grow faster and because your population is growing faster you'll actually have
more laborers in the workforce additionally since women are in the
workforce they're causing more adultery in the workforce they're causing more
problems in the workforce because they're not always on the same level as
men physically and so what's happening as a result of that is the week the
workforce is becoming weakened the workforce has more problems more divorce
and we have a lower birth rate if you look in the 1800s the birth rate was
close to eight children per family today it's under two per family so that
exponential growth over a period of time would be would would outweigh by and
large the labor force or the workforce you just conflated two separate issues
of women going into the workforce versus the emergence of the birth control pill
the birth control pill is what caused people to have a different or cause
birth rates to plummet as well the birth control women being educated turned out
to be the quickest thing that would cause birth rates to plummet so and I
heard you say to the other guy that you're pro women getting educated so
that downside that you just referred to would be there regardless of whether or
not you push them out of the workforce I believe that women can be educated from
home reading the Bible reading online I'm not against a woman coming to a
university or being educated but the premise in my opinion and I think most
people agree is the reason to go to college is usually get a job get a career
or to further their career advancement and if that's the premise for a woman
coming to the university then I I whole hell wholesale disagree with that I
believe that if she was just coming to learn and there was education
opportunities for her and it's not neglecting her responsibilities then go
for it I'm not against education at all what I am against is the idea of women
having this this push that they have to get a job they need to get a career that
we need double the workforce and sure there's a multiplicity of reasons why
certain things are true so the reason why birth birth rates are declining has
many different facets to it it's mostly coming from a feminist communist and
Marxist ideology and we could say that it's from birth we could say from birth
control that's true it's also coming from a lot of other factors such as
public education and it's correlated not necessarily causation there's also other
reasons of just increased promiscuity reduction and morality generally speaking
and so all of these things are related and I would say it's not one issue it's
multiple issues that cause a lowering in the birth rates but you also have
increase mince and technology the Industrial Revolution is also a major
reason why we have the reduction in birth rate specifically it's affords
women the opportunity even do so in prior times without the Industrial
Revolution without technology without of these advancements that we've had as a
society this wouldn't even really be a discussion I mean in previous
generations everybody's having a lot of kids just because that's how life works
yeah but that was because 99% of the labor was physical labor and I am
de facto better at physical labor than the average woman because I am large and
200 pounds so there was no need for them however now it's the information era all
of the work all the work that gets done or 90% of it at this point is cognitive
and women have the same roughly the same IQ as men meaning they have the
same amount of to bring to the table and on the technological revolution edge you
can say there's multiple causes of birth rates depleting and of course there is
because this massive issue however you made it the problem of communists and
feminists when that's you're gonna have to give me something to make that to
make that move I'm saying it's the birth to birth pill which was a technological
revolution have you read the communist manifesto god well if the communist
manifesto where Karl Marx literally said that you have to bring in feminism and
you have to employ women in the workforce in order to bring in communism
if that's what he literally said that's not my opinion that's what he's saying
in his own manifesto that's not what I'm saying I'm not saying he isn't saying
that he can say that all he wants I'm saying that that I'll give it 10% of the
reason I'm gonna give 78% to the fact that women could control their
reproductive rights with the birth control pill let me ask this question do
you think children are important I'm the only person who thinks children
aren't of course I think children are important so do you think that the people
that raise those children should be very educated very smart very capable
individuals yes they should probably go to college so you think that women have
to go to college to be able to raise children successfully no they don't have
to however if you want to be able to inform your kids about what's happening
in the world how to think how to read how to speak those skills they're
difficult to pick up on your own especially writing writing you need
constant someone looking at your work and going wrong wrong wrong do this
better do I think it would be great if they could I just don't think that those
skill sets happen without well I actually don't like how this place does
it either but somebody needs to be teaching these and colleges we're
supposed to now you said you want to learn how to think is that what you
believe or you should you learn how to critically think no you learn how to
think a lot of what we're taught for critical thinking is questioning other
people's ideas and not letting us question theirs so you learn how to
think by reading you learn how to think by writing you learn how to think by
putting an idea on paper and then battling it with another idea in your
mind and we're not taught that which is a failure of this kind of this place
however that's what I think is important for them to know well I agree that the
best ideas will show themselves true and so that's why I'm here today to advocate
you know what I believe and what I think is true I think that women staying home
is going to be superior for the children's sake because if if we look at
our current society children are mostly being sent to public school by and large
and they're still being taught many times by a woman why does a stranger a
strange woman is that woman better at raising my children than my wife I would
never say that she's been although maybe she is you don't know that she isn't or
is but that's not my argument my argument fundamentally is having a
higher IQ pool of people to work is good that's the benefit that's the upside and
the downside is your problem doesn't do well against free will so you say it's
they should they should what if they don't want to well of course I'm not I'm
not saying that we don't have free will of course women can do whatever they
want but if children are important even if my wife had a higher IQ than me why
would I not want to still invest her IQ into my children rather than in the
workforce especially if I can make more money than her if I would argue this if
I can make more money than her and she has an IR IQ and I can put that to the
use of my children that that would be far superior hey they're both good
investments of in IQ and capital but once again my problem is with the free
will side of it and so well that's the that's the con side of my argument the
upside is we get more IQ the downside is you're telling people what to do and
people don't especially people in America we don't really like that and
you have to have some reason to have that authority because you say well if
she was at home putting her IQ towards something else then we would really
benefit from that more but that's your opinion and you don't get to make other
people live by your opinions so you have a you kind of take offense to someone
telling what to do does the university here give you any instructions or tell
you what to do at all they certainly do what about if you have a job yes does
your boss tell you what to do yes so is there a problem with someone being told
what to do they educate me my boss pays me you don't do either that's why they
have the authority to tell me what to do if a husband is providing a hundred
percent for his wife he pays all of the bills and he takes care of all the
responsibility in that regard does he not have the right to tell his wife
what to do oh you can try but that's a terrible idea if you want to dominate
the one person in your life that you're going to be attached to all they're
gonna do is stab you in the back the moment you turn around every time so you
could say he has that authority but it's not gonna work out that way for humans
humans don't get dominated so I have a question when are you gonna stab your
boss in the back for telling what to do depends on how good of a leader they are
people stab their bosses in the back all the times they undermine them they do
less work you know people often go to work eight hours a day they're only
working like two that's because their boss is a prick now if their boss
inspired them and gave them a vision I'm learning about leadership by the way
here if they inspire them and give them a vision they work for them a hundred
percent and so people absolutely stab their bosses but they don't have to
bosses can be better what is your opinion on the Bible itself just curious
a very interesting text at the root of our culture with a great deal of wisdom
and a lot of wisdom in it really it's a good I prefer it psychological analysis
to its actual literate analysis okay so the Bible does tell well we're talking
about I would ask the question first what you thought about the Bible then
get your thoughts on a few Bible verses okay so the Bible does tell wives to
submit under their husbands and to obey them and everything the Bible also tells
us that the husband is the head of the wife the Bible tells us that women are
supposed to be keepers at home so would you say that you agree with with any of
those premises or you just think that women and men should be on an equal
playing level I think like with just about every piece of information you can
nitpick sources within it to prove your point I think that's what you're doing I
think you'll probably find some contradiction in there as well but
regardless of that I hold the Bible in some respect but not enough respect to
follow every single word from it verbatim especially when it's being
quoted by somebody who is selecting things for their argument okay I'm just
curious is there a single verse you think you could show me that would
contradict what I just said you're gonna put a 1600 page book in front of me and
tell me to find something I've never read this before of course not well you
told me that you believe there's contradictions but you've never read the
book so why do you believe that because it's made by people we all have
contradictions within us well the Bible proclaims to be it's God's Word so it
claims that there is no contradiction that it's the truth it's without error I
believe that with all my heart I believe in fact the King James Bible that I hold
right here is God's literal words in English preserved for us today and that
there is no error whatsoever and as the instructions from the one who's created
all of us so if I'm going to live life most successfully I'm gonna follow the
instructions of the operator the Creator which I believe is the Lord
Jesus Christ so that is where that's my presupposition right that's my how I
look at the world and I like the lens that I come from right except that we
have hundreds thousands of people that argue about religious texts every day
citing contradictions and they find them so I don't know and also if there's no
contradiction if this is the one true Word of God when it shine forth is the
thing that we all listen to instead of having Judaism Hinduism Islam we have
all these other things because some people somewhere just as smart as you
looked at that and went mmm something's missing let me ask this question what do
you think the most popular book in human history Bible bar none okay what do you
think is the most read book in human history I'm guessing you're gonna ask me
about three questions that are all saved Bible okay now you said that you think
if this was the Word of God it would shine forth do you think the most
popular book the most published book of all of human history and arguably
probably the most studied book of all human history might outshine the other
literature in our society yeah like I said I have great respect for the Bible
however there are other people with other ideas that I have the same amount
of respect for that goes to free will right if you want it to okay well the
Bible does have at the beginning the devil said yea have God said so the
devil wants to put doubt on God's Word he wants us to not trust and what he
said yes someone get him water I want to give you a few verses I know that we I
don't know that we've really made a lot of progress in this conversation but I
at least want to yeah that's good the Bible does say this and 1st Peter
chapter 3 verse 1 likewise ye wives being subjection to your own husbands
that have any obey not the word they also may without the word be won by the
conversation of the wives while they behold your chase conversation coupled
with fear who's adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plenty of the
hair of wearing of gold or putting on of apparel but let it be the hidden men of
the heart and that which is not corruptible even the ornament of a meek
and quiet spirit which is in the sight of God of great price so according to
the Bible women should obey their husbands no matter what and that
actually the most godly attribute woman could have is being meek and quiet what
do you think about that I think that's an improvisation or improper definition
of the word meek meek does not mean to be small and weak and hurtable weak
means those who have swords but shield them and do not use them those who have
the ability to fight back but choose peace so I do believe that if a woman is
with you and she can argue with you and she can be the feedback that you have
not through necessarily only argument but a certain degree of that kind of
meekness that is a winning combination that usually it makes people more
powerful together well I greatly value women's opinions I believe though that
the men should make the decisions so every decision made in my household is
made by the man every direction of the family and so it's important for there
to be leadership and there's important to know who's in charge right if we go
to the workplace we don't wonder who the boss is we don't wonder who the CEO is
we already know so that we can actually move forward as a company move forward
in the right direction similarly a family unit we need leadership we need
someone to make the decisions and God ordained it that men should be in charge
here's the thing you make the decisions okay yes you're pretty and I'm this
isn't to you this is to everybody we're all pretty dumb and we have a lot of
blindsides and we make a lot of mistakes however if you put two people working
together they do a lot better and so if you have somebody to bounce your ideas
off of and work with the solution is almost always better and then you also
have the free will issue of if you tell your wife everything to do and she
cannot act on her own she will resent you because she's a human being and we
don't like being dominated and when that happens we stab you in the back I would
argue that women actually are the happiest when they're being told what
to do by their husband and they submit to his authority and his leadership the
Bible does say that it's not good for the man to be alone and that's why God
created him a help meet which is the woman and she's the perfect counterpart
to God's creation and so I do believe it's important for men to have that
companionship of a woman women give great advice women have I think unique
abilities and talents that God has given them but I believe that their talents
are best used in raising children guiding the house and being a
subservient wife to their husband I'm gonna kind of give you one last thought
because I feel like we've been talking in circles a little bit here but based
on the premise of our argument what it you know you kind of disagree with me
what's your best argument based on what we talked about today what is your best
argument as to why you think women should go out and get a career and not
stay home and raise the children first of all one percent of people have a
career can I hold this or do you want to hold it I'm not gonna throw it anybody I
promise all right one percent of people have a career most people have jobs and
that's perfectly fine my argument is you have a downside that you're not looking
very closely at which is you're telling them what to do they have free will
they're not going to like that you're dominating them therefore they're going
to stab you in the back the second you're done the upside of my argument is
that we get a larger IQ pool and a better workforce in our new information
era spaces that we no longer we didn't have at any point in time that is my
argument well that's one side of each part of the argument and what's yours
yeah I fundamentally disagree I think that women even using the resources we
better at home than in the workforce we we would have a better output and I
explained to you earlier how we'd have a greater growth potential over a long
period of time so I don't think that we're gonna I don't think we're gonna
agree my wife has never stabbed me in the back nor do I believe that she ever
would and there's plenty of women that are very faithful and loyal to their
husbands and I believe that most women want to be faithful and loyal to the
husbands I don't think that a caring and loving husband would cause a woman
to want to stab him in the back that's kind of a cynical view on women to say
that women would just want to stab men in the back no it's a view on people so
we can call it a fundamental disagreement on human nature all right
well I appreciate you talking with me today maybe we can get a woman to give
us her perspective on this one is it we have any ladies here that want to talk
to us for a second