So, let me see what else is going on in the Q&A here.
I appreciate you guys coming on for short notice.
This is kind of an experiment with Zoom.
You know, I really wanted to do this polling feature.
So, what should we poll?
It looks like we've got 95 people tuned in right now.
What should we ask them?
Because there's this polling feature on Zoom.
I'm just kind of dying to test it out.
So, I'm trying to test all the bells and whistles of Zoom here.
So, if anything pops into your mind, let me know.
So, is Biden still alive or is he like weekend at Bernie's right now?
Well, he's definitely probably twice dead, but I don't know.
He's an undead.
Does he know that he's alive?
That's another question.
Yeah, that's a good question.
What about this?
When it comes to the Antichrist, I'm interested what you guys think if he's
going to be like an American president or if he's going to kind of like be
really major on the scene or just kind of come out of nowhere and like the
Bible talks about him being like of the seventh, you know, and he's definitely
not going to be, he's definitely not going to be an American president.
I think most, it's going to be happening on the other side
of the world, in my opinion.
What would be, why do you think that?
Well, because I, because, you know, obviously I, you know, I see back on
the seventh, then if you believe that one is the seventh kingdom, the
seventh kingdom, isn't the USA.
The seventh kingdom is the whole new world order, you know, as far as
like the whole global governments, more like the, you know, the whole
world system, not just the U S the U S is a component of that, but I think
that the whole, because, because remember the 10 Kings, you know, they
will hate the whore, which I say that the whore specifically in that
instance is probably the United States.
The, the, the, the 10 Kings, they hate the whore and make her desolate and
naked and eat her flesh and burn her with fire for God had put in their
heart to fulfill his will and to agree and to give their kingdom unto the
beast until, you know, things should be fulfilled.
So basically like the 10 Kings hate the whore and deliver
their kingdom to the beast.
So it wouldn't make sense if they're hating the U S and then delivering
the kingdom to the U S president.
You know what I mean?
But I thought about it this way though, cause I agree with you that that's weird,
but what if it's kind of like a Manchurian candidate, like a Biden, in the sense that.
Biden's kind of bought into the kingdom of the beast, but he's not
kind of bought and paid for, let's just say hypothetically that Biden is,
you know, uh, being bought and paid for by China, right?
Like China is, you know, kind of, yeah, these 10 Kings essentially have
bought and paid for the American president.
And so the president is not really loyal to America and they're
going to allow him to conquer.
Cause he's, the Bible talks about at least, you know, someone going
forth to conquer conquering into conquer.
And so America is just going to basically invade these 10
Kings and kind of take them over.
He ends up wiping out three of them because obviously the Antichrist
has to have someone to fight, you know, by my estimation, here's the thing
though, okay, is that keep in mind the Antichrist, you know, is going to
convince the world that he's basically Jesus, that he's basically
the second coming of Christ, right?
So is a U S a U S president, isn't going to be able to be like, I'm Jesus.
I'm, you know, nobody's going to believe that no matter who it is.
Like it's going to be somebody who's like a Jewish person.
And as far as who's the Antichrist fighting, I, my personal belief is
that the end time is going to be kicked off by a war, like a world war.
Because you know, the second, the second seal is peace taken from the
earth and it's the world at war.
And I think most likely if this happens anytime soon, my theory would be that
it would, and this is just my theory, but it would, that it would be a world
war three would be fought between like Zionism and its allies versus
Islam and Islam's allies, you know?
Cause there's 1.6 billion Muslims.
And then you've got Zionism, which is, you know, basically like the West.
And then you've got Islam teamed up with the East in a sense, and you
could have like world war three like that.
I mean, that's what I think.
And that, and that the Zionist side is going to win and that's
going to be the Antichrist side.
But I don't think that it's going to be some, you know, some like U S white dude.
You know, I think it's going to be somebody who, who can convince
people that he's Jesus, you know?
But even if he was a Jew, I mean, obviously couldn't a Jew become the president.
Yeah, but he's going to be like a spiritual leader.
He's going to be like, like, I just can't see like a politician or someone
who's becoming the U S president.
Being like a spiritual leader of that caliber where he's got to be
seen as a really spiritual guy.
If he's going to claim to be Christ.
I mean, obviously it's hard to, to know how this is all going to play.
I can see where pastor Shelley's coming from.
I, I, I kind of believe he'll probably be Jewish because, you know, Jesus
said, I came in my father's name.
And you received me, not another chef come in his own name and him, you will
receive, and then Daniel talks about the fact that he's not going to regard
the God of his fathers.
So to me, it kind of seems like they're going to be kind of like a Jewish descent.
But I guess I think about where it says, you know, it's talking about the seven
headed dragon with 10 horns and says one of the heads was wounded to death.
And it seems like the heads are represented as Kings.
So I can understand the idea of it being like a King, like a leader that's killed.
And then obviously it comes back to life.
So I can understand that as part of thinking it's like a world leader.
Um, but I, I'm not here to say, I know for sure who, you know, like if it's
going to be like an American leader, is it going to be like a leader over there?
Is it, you know, or is it going to be like a general, is it going to be
he's going to be a world leader, but that he's, he's going to be a spiritual leader
too, you know, he has to be, you know, I mean, that's the way I see it.
What about the false prophet though?
Who's that?
I mean, I, you know, my dad always thought that Billy Graham would be the false
prophet because, you know, Billy Graham was just so popular with everyone.
And, and that if he pointed to the Antichrist and said, this is the guy,
a lot of people would listen to him, you know, so my dad really was surprised
when Billy Graham just got old and died because he thought like,
this is the false prophet.
So I think that the false prophet's probably going to be a Billy Graham
like character, like a preacher.
That's just universally loved.
A really popular universally popular preacher.
Who's going to be the one who's able to convince everybody, Hey, this is Jesus.
You know, this is who we should be worshiping, you know, about the Antichrist.
And obviously the elect will not be deceived, but I've always kind of thought
that the Antichrist is going to be someone who's also not just like some
puppet, like Biden's just a guy that's got like no character, no emotion.
Like the guy is just so bland and, and like, I don't think, I don't know.
I've never met anyone who actually likes him.
Like even Democrats don't, don't like him or whatever.
The vote was for Trump or against Trump, basically.
That's right.
And, but I see someone more like, you know, Trump, I can see how people
get behind him in some aspects.
And there's a lot of people don't like him either.
Or like a Putin, right?
Someone who's like has a little bit of charisma and kind of can, can show
some qualities that people can get behind.
And I think the Antichrist is going to be even more so like just a pretty,
a very charismatic person.
That's going to get a very great, a big crowd swelling.
Like, I mean, you know, Adolf Hitler had a lot of people following him
and cheering and supporting and, and, you know, the German nationalism that,
that you know, a lot of people were, were in support of him as a, as a charismatic
guy, you know, when he came to power.
And there's, there's other world leaders, I think, throughout time
that kind of exhibit similar traits.
And I've just seen the Antichrist as going to be someone who's going to be
able to get a lot of people behind them and not just be a puppet, but be more like
the, yeah, and I think that you know, I just don't think that the end times are
really going to be centered on the United States.
That's why that's part of why I even believe in, you know, what I, what I
taught in our film, Babylon USA, because if the USA is Babylon, it's like Babylon's
coming up at the very end is like an afterthought, like, Oh, it came into
remembrance before God to give him to the cup of the wine of the fiercest of his wrath.
I just don't believe that the US is the big center or focus of the
events in the book of Revelation.
I feel like most of it's happening on the other side of the world.
And then that's why he has to have like a special punishment in Revelation 18.
For the US that, that that's kind of the way that I think about it.
So, well, I mean, I agree with you in the sense that I don't think the action's
going to be in America, but that could still give credence to the fact that
it's a United States president in a sense.
And I'm not saying that I believe that for sure.
I'm just saying, hypothetically, I don't believe it's going to be a Joe Biden
where he's, you know, dead on the inside and outside, it would be someone that
has a lot of charisma and everybody in America kind of supports, but like,
he's going to be having all the action be in the middle East and be in obviously
these other territories where he's gone forth to conquer and, you know, that's
going to be the epicenter of action is going to be the middle East Jerusalem.
Specifically.
I do think that it's possible.
He's not Jewish and I don't know, but like with Antiochus Epiphanes and you
have basically the fact that it's the time of the Gentiles, I think it's
possible that he wouldn't even be a Jew necessarily, and that he kind of like,
he's still going to maybe gain the favor of the Jews initially through
flattery and everything like that.
But then he's going to come in and just basically be like, well, I'm God.
And then just, you know, forsake all the Jewish religion, whether it was a Jew or
not.
You're definitely, you're right about the fact that he doesn't have to be a Jew
because, especially because it depends on what you mean by Jew, because the
word Jew has so many definitions.
Are we talking ethnic?
Are we talking religion?
Are we, you know, what does that even mean to be a Jew?
Right.
So I totally agree with you.
And obviously, yes, the Roman emperor and Antiochus Epiphanes both foreshadow
the Antichrist and they're obviously an outsider, non-Jewish, but here's
the thing about the Antichrist.
The Antichrist is going to be somebody everybody likes.
So take like, take a US president that's really likable and charismatic.
Okay.
Like Bill Clinton or Barack Obama or something.
Charismatic, likable.
But, John F.
Kennedy, did you say Dave Burzins?
You're muted, brother Burzins.
But you're JFK or something, but here's the thing about those people.
When a US president's like, quote unquote, popular or liked, or, you
know, America is so divided, they're usually hated by half the country.
Like, cause like Ronald Reagan was pretty popular, but yet there's a lot
of people that really hated Ronald Reagan.
And obviously there are a lot of people who hated Barack Obama.
I can't really think of any off the top of my head that hated Obama, but
like, you know, there could be, there were tons of people who hated Clinton.
Like name one US president that everybody likes because, you know,
they're all hated by half the country.
So it seems it has to be somebody that everybody likes.
How could that be either a Republican or a Democrat?
Well, it could be like a George Washington figure.
Like, you know, America's not in our current climate.
You're going to be like a 50 50, it seems like no matter what, just because you
have so much dynamically opposed opinions of the left and the right and everything
like that, but if we did go through some kind of a revolution, you know, in our
country where we pretty much go way to the left or way to the right or something
like that, and then you basically have someone rise out of that, that climate
as kind of a leader, that's real charismatic and bringing the economy
back great or something, and then just, you know, as a real likable figure.
I think it's plausible.
I don't know.
My point is it's pretty hard to succeed in politics or get without.
Like pissing off a huge part of the population, because it's just, you have
to kind of take sides on issues and you're going to make people mad and stuff.
So it seems like, I don't know, it just doesn't seem like somebody who's going
to climb the ranks politically or get voted into office because it'd be like,
they'd be too contentious of a person.
Well, see, I always thought that too.
That's probably why you're gonna have war.
I mean, the war is going to play a big part of it.
So people are able to put aside politics during wars and you get a strong leader.
You could get the whole country behind someone and put aside all the political
nonsense and say, you know, we need this person, you know, and that's, I think
where they're going to start to come into that power is going to be through a,
through more of a, of a war of leading, you know, kind of gaining some nationalism
and national pride behind your, your great strong leader going into a battle.
And then from there, just being able to, to have more influence over a much
larger portion of people, because it's not about just some stupid politics.
Well, it seems like the unsaved though, are getting like way less logical in
just the sense that every country, like we're calling men, women here and like
things are just so crazy that like after the baby boomer generation and people
that grew up in like a normal society have like passed on and our culture is
just so like calling good evil and whatever, if the majority of our
population is like the left, for whatever reason, I could see how they
just all hook, line and sinker.
Cause I mean, there's going to be strong delusion that they believe a lie that
they just all love this charismatic leader and those that are saved.
Are just like, everyone's taking crazy pills.
I mean, everybody's just like psycho and there's no way to convince them
that, you know, the anti-crisis legitimate, they would never believe it.
Cause they're saved.
I think what we're seeing now, part of what we're seeing now is the, um, like
with all the craziness that you're talking about, a lot of that just comes from
idleness, I mean, we're headed towards Sodom because we've got abundance of
bread and just, and just abundance of idleness and people can just complain
and argue about the stupidest things because they don't actually have to
work real hard and, and, you know, struggle to survive because you've
got everything handed to you.
So now it's just, you're kind of devolving into this self-centered,
you know, idolatrous, wicked, sinful nation, but we're still going to be
split until things come to a head.
And that's why I really think that war is going to be a, just the only thing
that's going to really going to bring unsaved people from both sides of the
spectrum together to be behind any one.