All right, so somebody asked a question in the chat about, they said somebody at their
church is duped by the doctrine that people could be saved by works in the Old Testament
or that, you know, like in a different dispensation they're saved by the law or saved by works. And in
the New Testament, it's by faith. What are the go-to verses to debunk this this thing that
salvation wasn't by faith in the Old Testament? The ones that popped into my mind are obviously
Acts 10 43, to him give all the prophets witness that through his name whosoever believeth
in him shall receive remission of sins. So that whosoever believeth is the message of all the
prophets. But for me, the big one is this Romans chapter 4. Like, you know, the entire chapter,
I mean verses 5 through 8 especially, but the entire chapter Romans 4 is literally about that.
Just saying there's no way Abraham was justified by works and it's by faith. Even David
describes the blessedness of the man to whom God impudeth righteousness without works.
And to me, it's like the works, by the works of the law there shall no flesh be justified in
his sight. If you could be saved by the law in the Old Testament, then why not just stay with
that? What do we even need Jesus for? If anyone could ever be saved by works or the law,
you don't need Christ. The reason we need Christ is because no one can be saved by works.
No one can be saved by the law. You can only be saved through the faith of Christ.
Any other like New Testament verses come to mind? Add on to that Hebrews 7 8 and 9. I mean,
it's impossible for the blood of bulls and then goats to save. I mean, that is what they did in
the Old Testament and they're saying literally in New Testament that you've never been able to
save the soul with the blood of bulls and goats. You've always needed that one precious
sacrifice. I mean, it's just ridiculous. I actually had a conversation with someone on an airplane
once quite a long time ago, you know, giving them the gospel that went to a dispensational
church and that was those were the verses that I went to and it really just changed his
mind and his thinking like I think this guy was saved because I was trying to give him the gospel
but he's been fed this stuff for a long time. He was a young guy and he'd been brought up
and you know I don't know for how long but had been being taught this stuff
and when I showed him all that stuff he was just like yeah yeah I mean that makes perfect
sense. You know it's I don't know like because I haven't spent a lot of time in
dispensational churches they just avoid these passages just completely do they even like
answer it like I don't know like what do they say about Hebrews or Romans 4 like what do they
even say about that? I mean I don't argue with these people because I don't I try not
to argue with anyone I don't like arguing with people it's like it's what the Bible says if
you're wrong then go be wrong then. Yeah, Galatians 3 is a go-to one as well where it says that
there had been a law given which could have given life barely righteousness should have
been by the law but the scripture has concluded it all under sin. I think that's because you
know people are like well you know say but well if there if there would have been a law
given it would have been given you know that could have brought righteousness so
you know I don't see how you can get around that because that whole chapter is talking about
the fact that you know for as many as are under the works of law or the curse you know
curses and I was preaching against the Amish and they try to circumvent
where it says well it's works they're just saying well that's just the customary stuff
that's not the moral law you know we still need to keep the moral law today
and it's funny because when you go back to where that's quoted from
for as many as are the works of law are under the curse is in Deuteronomy 27 and it's like
all moral law so they're trying to say that's all just customary or whatever but
I think Galatians 3 Romans 4 Galatians 3 are like my two go-to places when it comes to that
yeah I agree I think even another verse Pastor Robinson was bringing up Galatians 3
another verse in Galatians 3 is just even as Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him
for righteousness so that's basically the same thing Romans 4 saying or even Romans 3 just
right before when it just says therefore we include that a man is justified by faith
without the deeds of the law and then it says is he the God of the Jews only is he
not also the Gentiles yes of the Gentiles also seeing it as one God which would justify
the circumcision by faith and the and uncircumcision through faith so then he's pointing
to how both are saved by faith specifically the circumcision and the uncircumcision which to me
would dispel any dispensational viewpoint that the circumcised were saved another way