So, uh, one of these questions on here was, uh, the best book to learn the history of
Bible translation. There's a, what's that guy's name Lance that, uh, uh, there's a
book called King James, the Bible and his translators. And it's a really, uh, I forget what his first
name is, but I'm pretty sure his last name is Lance. Um, but, uh, it's a really good
abridged version of, uh, the subject. Okay. So if you want just kind of, yeah, I think
I got to somewhere unless I let someone borrow it.
Yeah. His name is Lawrence Vance, Lawrence Vance. So Lawrence Vance, he has some other books too, but right
here. Yeah. That's the one King James, his Bible and the translators. And, and so that one right
there, it's a short read. It's not, you know, there's some drier parts, I guess, but, um, that
one kind of goes through who King James was because there's a lot of misinformation on him
nowadays and kind of like tear him down. Um, and then, uh, just going into the different, uh, it
goes into the whole history of the other versions before the King James. So it doesn't just
hit the ones that are from the TR. It also hits the ones that came from like the Latin
Vulgate. So yeah, like a Dewey Reams, but there's other ones in there. Um, and so it goes
through all the early English translations, and then it goes into the translators themselves,
who they were and just the rules that were set out. The really cool thing about that book is
it really shows you that King James, he had these rules set out, you know, that you have
to use these versions of the English, you know, like the bishops and the Tyndale and just
different versions, you know, that came before it, that you had to compare it to that.
And here's, you know, here's the guidelines, you know, so he had like all these
guidelines that basically had these checks and balances and everything. Um, and so, and another
question on here was dealing with, you know, why it was called the King James, you know,
why they called it King James, um, or why that stuck. I mean, it was originally called
the authorized version, but it was addressed to King James. I mean, in the very beginning,
you have this, uh, the translators to the King, if you will, then you have the translators to
the reader. Um, but King James is the one that authorized the translation, you know,
he's the one that basically had made that happen. And so, you know, it just makes sense. I mean,
but I mean, even if you think about it, I mean, a lot of times you, you put a name on
something based off what it's associated to. So, um, but now I don't know what your thoughts
are on that as far as why they would name it that, but, or what your, what your, what your,
uh, what your go-to as far as a book or, uh, you know, studying subject.
Well, um, that's one of them, the King James, his Bible and his translators. I don't
really have any other books other than that. There there's some that are very, like,
I don't want to say they're biased towards the King James, which they're good,
but there's, um, a lot of other ones that are written by, I guess you could say people who
are just not King James, but they just have done the study on them and have looked, have
researched King James and the translators. I think those books are really good.
Yeah. I have an unbiased opinion about it.
There's a book called God's secretaries. And that'll give you, if you want to get just a
secular history perspective, no, because the thing is, if you're only listening to people that are
King James only, obviously they're going to be strongly biased toward the King James version,
which, amen. I mean, we're all biased toward the King James version because we love it.
But if you want to kind of just take a step back and just kind of get a third party
history, secular historical source, then God's secretaries is a, is a paperback book,
few hundred pages, really easy to read. And, you know, obviously I'm not saying everything
in it is gospel because it's coming from a worldly perspective. But, you know, I think
it's good sometimes to listen to things that are outside of our little group, outside of our
little circle, because, you know, otherwise you're only getting one side. And so if you really
want to understand a subject, it's good to sometimes hear from both sides, especially
when it comes to history, because history is open to interpretation. And, you know,
when it comes to the Bible is black and white. The word of God is settled in heaven
and we've got it, you know, in our hand, the word is naias, even in our mouth and in our heart.
But when it comes to history, there's a lot of interpretation, a lot of bias. And so, you know,
I think it's good to read a few different sources and not to just only read books
about the history from King James Onlyists. And, you know, it's even more powerful when
you hear somebody who's not a King James Onlyist, who's not even writing from a Christian
perspective, and they're confirming to you how the translators are just such experts and they
know so much and they do such a good job. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's a really,
it's a powerful testimony when it's even coming from the world, when even the world is telling
you, these guys are expert first class scholars. So I really enjoyed the book God's
Secretaries. It had a few things in it that I would point to as being in error or incorrect.
But in general, it really will give you the picture and it'll increase your appreciation
for the King James. Yeah, there's a lot of things that I've just read online. And
just to be honest with you, Wikipedia will lead you to different sources and stuff like that.
Dealing with the text, for example, like when you dive into the majority text, you know,
what is the majority text? Because even that book, you know, that that Lawrence Vance book,
you know, it doesn't dive that deep into that type of stuff. I mean, it's very,
you know, basic. And so you can get into the weeds with all this stuff. And I agree with you,
you know, a lot of times I'll read a Wikipedia page, which obviously is not Fundamental Baptist,
and just see what they have to say. And a lot of times you'll see there's definitely a bias,
whoever's writing that has a strong bias against us or against King James Onlyism or the TR.
But kind of comparing all those together, and just like, seeing what's the truth, what's biased.
There's one book I read, which I would never recommend, but when I was first, you know,
got saved was Al Lacy's book, Can You Trust Your Bible? And Al Lacy's book was kind of like
Gail Riplinger, pretty much. I mean, those, you know, as far as getting into the
Ruckmanite issue with it and getting going too far with it. So those were like the first things
I read. And then, you know, I had to dial that back and be like, okay, that doesn't match up
with, you know, what's in reality, you know, but that was extremely biased on the issue.
Yeah, and you know, people talk smack about Wikipedia, but I'm actually a big fan of Wikipedia,
because the problem with using Wikipedia as a source is when you just blindly trust what
Wikipedia is telling you. The good thing about Wikipedia, though, is that if you scroll down to
the bottom of the page, it gives you all the sources. So Wikipedia can get you started on a
subject, give you the basics, but you just don't blindly believe it. You go down to the bottom of
the page, and you look up those sources, and then that's where you'll find actual reliable
sources and original sources. And so Wikipedia is a great tool,
as long as you use it properly and not just treat it as gospel without fact checking.