Hey everybody, Pastor Steven Anderson here from Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe,
Arizona.
This is just a quick video to debunk some of the bizarre claims made by Patrick Boyle
in his recent sermon.
Let's go ahead and have a listen.
And they'll hear me say something like this, if your Greek or Hebrew says something
different than the King James, my King James corrects your Greek.
What they think I'm saying is my King James corrects your Greek.
But how many understand, we don't have these.
Nobody has these.
They're gone.
Okay, the first thing I want to point out is that he's claiming that the Greek and
Hebrew that went into the King James Bible translation is gone and that no one has those
documents and that is just wrong because we know exactly what the King James Bible
was translated from.
In the Old Testament, they used a printed edition of the Masoretic Hebrew text published
by Bomberg and you can buy today a Bomberg Hebrew New Testament.
It still exists.
It didn't go anywhere.
Okay, and then for the New Testament, they're translating from printed editions of the Greek
New Testament by Erasmus, Stephanus, Beza.
Those are all available.
Okay.
This isn't like the Book of Mormon where Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon
from golden tablets and then those golden tablets were carried up to heaven or something.
This isn't like Mission Impossible where as soon as they finished translating the
New Testament, the original Greek self-destructs or something like that.
This is an absurd claim and not only that but it's a false doctrine claiming that God
did not preserve the text of scripture in the Hebrew Old Testament, the Greek New Testament.
They're claiming that God allowed the Hebrew to basically be preserved up to 1611 so that
the King James translators could use it.
He allowed the Greek to be preserved, the Greek New Testament up to 1611 but then
he allowed after all of those centuries, he just allowed the Greek New Testament to
perish off the face of the earth and the Hebrew to perish off the face of the earth
so that he points at this weird scroll which is supposed to represent the original
languages.
It's gone.
Nobody has it.
We don't know where it is.
You know, he's claiming that it's not preserved by God.
That's a false doctrine.
What I'm saying is my King James corrects your Greek that came along 300 years later.
Now isn't it interesting when you start to learn a little bit of Greek and you go
to the Word of God and you think, huh, open up that King James Bible.
Open it up.
You know how to do it?
Wow.
This cannot be a literal word for word because this is saying something different than that
and they hold this to the same standard.
They hold this never realizing Scrivener didn't believe the King James Bible.
So he's creating a straw man here about this 1881 Scrivener Greek New Testament saying
oh this came, you know, 300 years later.
But what he's not telling you is that the Scrivener New Testament is nothing new because
all it is is just printing the Greek text that was already printed by guys like Erasmus,
Stephanus and Beza.
It's just a new edition of the Textus Receptus in 1881 that is matching the textual choices
of the KJV translators perfectly.
So that instead of pointing to three books, an Erasmus Greek New Testament, a Stephanus
Greek New Testament and a Beza Greek New Testament, we just point to one book and
say here's a Scrivener Greek New Testament and this is the exact Greek underlying the
King James.
That's all the 1881 Scrivener text is.
It's just a synthesis of Erasmus, Stephanus and Beza.
He's just acting like the Greek New Testament came out 300 years after the King James.
The Greek New Testament, the TR was out there before the King James, Erasmus, Stephanus,
Beza and guess what?
All of those books are still available.
None of them self-destructed or was warped up to heaven, but you can actually buy any
of those books.
You can look at them online.
You can look at replicas of first editions from museums.
So homing in on the 1881 Scrivener is a straw man because that's not what the KJV translators
used.
They used Erasmus, Stephanus and Beza.
It's just the 1881 is the same text as what they used because it's simply taken
from Erasmus, Stephanus and Beza.
But he lies to his congregation and says that Scrivener translated the Bible into Greek.
Come on.
I mean, that's just so stupid to say Scrivener translated the English KJV into Greek.
That's just a lie.
And the reason I say a lie and not a mistake is because these things have been explained
to Patrick Boyle over and over again and he just refuses to acknowledge the truth and
he has chosen lies.
And anyone who says that Scrivener translated the KJV into Greek is either ignorant or
lying.
And in the case of Patrick Boyle, he's a liar because he's had this explained to him
repeatedly.
Let's keep going.
And he was trying to, if you can't change the KJV, change the authority of the KJV.
And now all of a sudden you're going to say, well, the KJV says, God forbid,
but the Greek actually says, may it never be.
So we know dynamic equivalence was used because the Greek says, may it never be.
But our King James says, God forbid, therefore we know they're both right.
That means God doesn't care about the actual wordage, just the meaning.
So notice how he's misleading his congregation here that somehow it's just the 1881 Scrivener
Texas Receptus that doesn't say literally word for word, God forbid, but actually
says something in Greek that literally means, may it never be.
Now, God forbid is a great translation of the Greek word, which is mi-enito, okay?
Hey, there's no issue there.
But the problem is when someone like Patrick Boyle gets up and claims that the King James
always translates word for word and that because the original Greek doesn't say like
God, like have a word for God and a word for forbid, then he says, oh, that's corrupt
original Greeks corrupt, original Hebrews corrupt.
What he's not telling you is that every single Greek New Testament on this planet says mi-enito
and does not say the Greek equivalent verbatim of God forbid, okay?
So we're not talking about Scrivener, he can mislead his congregation like that.
But and you hear all the amens and all the laughter and all the things coming from
the crowd that's just ignorantly eating this up with fork and spoon.
But guess what?
It isn't true.
It's a lie.
Because it's not just Scrivener that doesn't say God forbid in those exact words.
It's every Greek New Testament on the planet.
It's millions of Greek New Testaments, if you count all the different copies of it
that are all over the world.
It's Erasmus, it's Stephanus, it's Beza.
And you know, here I'm just flashing on the screen for you, replicas in museums, actually
these aren't even replicas.
These images are taken from actual first editions of the Greek New Testaments published
in the 1500s by Erasmus, Stephanus, Beza, as well as other editions of the Textus
Receptus that were published later.
Folks, it doesn't matter how many we look at, we can look at thousands.
They're all going to say the same thing in this verse.
So Patrick Boyle's conclusion is that the Greek no longer exists.
So he wants you to believe that every single Greek New Testament on this planet is wrong,
that the true Greek New Testament has disappeared from the face of the earth, and that somewhere
over the rainbow, there used to be a Greek New Testament that said these exact words
verbatim, God forbid.
Wouldn't a much simpler explanation be that simply the KJV translators didn't always
translate word for word, but that sometimes they use dynamic equivalents?
Because that's what they did.
That's the reality.
That's the truth.
And guess what?
That's what every good translator does, because a word for word translation is a Google
Translate translation.
And guess what?
That's not what the KJV is, the KJV is an excellent translation of the Word of God
that not only preserves the meaning of the original, but also the power and the majesty
and the feel of the original.
It comes across in a powerful way because it's not just some wooden Google Translate
type translation.
It sounds like it was written in English because it's just such a great translation.
Anyway, don't be deceived by this garbage.
The evidence is right in front of you.
You know, he can make all these claims without evidence, but here are all the images of
all the different Greek New Testaments that are out there.
It's not Scrivener.
Don't fall for this Scrivener straw man.
An attack on Scrivener is an attack on the Textus Receptus in general, Erasmus Stephanus
Beza.
And it's an attack on the preservation of God's Word.
And it also just makes KJV-onlyism completely stupid to anyone who's actually smart enough
to think about these things.
And so it's an embarrassment to the cause of Christ, and it's an embarrassment to King
James-onlyism.
This kind of flat earth level reality denial.
And it's so funny because years later, we already had this conversation years ago, and
years later, Patrick Boyle is still refusing to deny the reality that the Greek New Testament
doesn't verbatim say, God forbid, in those exact words.
He just refuses to acknowledge it.
He just says, no.
Okay, that's a flat earth level of reality denial.
God bless you have a great day.