Hey everybody, Pastor Steven Anderson here from Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe,
Arizona.
I'm here with Brother Anselm, and we are working through lesson 11 of Homeric Greek by Clyde
Farr.
That's the book we're using.
There is a link to download the PDF for free of the version that's in the public domain,
the version from 100 years ago.
You can also get a nice new one from Amazon for, you know, 20, 30 bucks, whatever.
But anyway, Homeric Greek for Beginners, lesson 11.
And what we're learning about today are masculine nouns of the first declension.
So if you remember when we did our first declension nouns so far, they were feminine.
Things like vuli, council plan, will, theia, goddess, thalassa, the sea, those were first
declension.
They're all feminine.
And so this is a masculine word, but it's classified as first declension because you've
got a lot of alphas and etas going on.
It kind of reminds you of those, but it's masculine.
That's kind of the twist on it.
So this particular word that the book uses for the paradigm or for the example is the
word that means the son of Atreus.
So Atreus is an important person in Greek mythology.
And so basically Agamemnon is a son of Atreus.
And so this comes up a lot when we're talking about Agamemnon.
So this word right here, atraevis, that's your nominative.
Now some biblical examples of first declension masculine nouns like from the New Testament
would be like profiteis.
They have this esending.
And usually what they are is they're either a patronymic, which a patronymic is saying
like son of so-and-so.
Like in German, phone, whatever.
Or like in Russian, the ovich ending or whatever.
So it means son of.
So whenever you have these words that mean son of, like this word atraevis, son of Atreus,
you'll typically have first declension masculine.
And then the other time will be if it's sometimes like a job or someone who does something like
profiteis or another one that popped into my mind is kermatistis, which is a money changer.
So there are a whole bunch of these and we'll see some in the exercises.
So it's pretty simple.
This is probably the trickiest part right here.
Like that is the only ending that seems a little different.
But other than that, it's pretty basic because you've got, of course, atraevis, atredau,
which is the genitive.
Again, that one's a little tricky.
And then, of course, this is the dative, needs a Yoda subscript.
And then we've got the accusative atraevin and then vocative atraevi.
So again, not very different from our other first declension nouns.
And then over here in the plural, atrede, atredaun, atredis, and again, this is going
to be with a Yoda subscript, atredas is the plural accusative, and then atrede is the
vocative.
So pretty straightforward, right?
Yeah.
Pretty basic.
The way you pronounce it is atredi.
Well here's the thing.
Do you see this little umlaut here?
Yeah.
Okay.
What that's telling you is that this is not a diphthong.
That's what those dots mean.
Because usually, let's say we didn't have the diphthong, and in some editions of Homer,
sometimes you'll see it written without the diphthong, or excuse me, without the umlaut
there.
Okay.
Yeah.
I might have misspoke.
But anyway, these little dots there is telling you pronounce them separately.
So if we didn't have the umlaut, then it would be like atrivis or atredau, atredi, atredi,
atri, you know.
That's how you do it.
But usually, you're going to have the umlaut, which means that it's atreadis, atreadis in
modern pronunciation.
And so then the ae gets run together to just basically be ae, ae, ae.
So then it becomes atredis, atredau, atredi, atredin, atredi, atrede.
So that's why I'm pronouncing it that way.
Because of the two dots.
Yeah.
Does that answer your question?
Yes.
Yeah.
Otherwise, usually epsilon yoda would make an ee sound, but because of the dots, it makes
it ae sound.
So it's different.
In modern pronunciation, of course, we always use modern Greek pronunciation in this series.
So again, this is really the only tricky one.
These are all just straight out of the first declension.
They're just like the first declension of feminines.
This is the one to get used to, but it's just one thing to learn.
So not a big deal.
Okay.
So here's the other thing about this lesson is some verbs will have more than one kind
of aorist.
Isn't that wonderful?
Okay.
So of course, we're talking about this verb right here, right?
Veno, which means I go.
Okay.
Now, this is the aorist that we would normally be used to down here.
This is what we're familiar with, evisa, evisa, evisa, evisamen, evisata, evisan.
Those are the endings that you're familiar with, sa, sa, se, samen, sata, isan, right?
So this right here is called the stem aorist.
Okay.
So you've got your first aorist here and you've got the stem aorist here.
Now when you're looking up these verbs that have two styles like this, then in the third
principle part where it gives you the aorist, it'll list both.
It'll be like evisa slash evi.
And then it's like you see that there's those two options.
Now when they have two, sometimes there's like a nuance in what they mean.
So typically, and sometimes these rules are kind of made to be broken, but like typically
this one right here, evisa, is going to be more like causative, like I cause to go.
I make go, like a transitive verb, meaning like it has an object like making something
go versus just simple going.
So the simple going is more often just going to be something like that.
But again, that's just typically how these go.
And so the way that I remember it is that this is a shorter, simpler word.
So I think it has a shorter, simpler meaning.
Just go.
Whereas this is like a longer word, so it's like cause to go.
Yeah, that makes sense.
That's just the way I remember it.
But both mean, both have a simple past meaning.
Yeah, they're both aorist.
So yeah, they're both that simple past aorist.
There's nothing to do with the tense here.
It's just two different styles that you're going to run into in Homer.
This one's usually used like transitive.
It's usually intransitive.
But yeah, they're both aorist.
They both have the exact same tense.
It's just two different styles and could be transitive versus intransitive, but no difference
in tense.
So here's how these work.
You have this basic stem.
So this is basically the stem right here is these three letters.
That's what ends up coming across all the time.
And then basically these are the endings.
You've got that ending, that ending.
Now you say, well, where is it?
Why a new?
Well, if you think about it, though, in the imperfect, you have that knee here and here
in the imperfect.
I don't know if that helps at all.
And then these are real similar like imperfect endings.
And then this is just, of course, nothingness here.
There's nothing there.
So these are the endings.
And then, of course, the son.
So basically what they're kind of missing is like a vowel, you know, because it's not
like omen, amen, amen.
It's just a man, ta, son, because you already have the eta in the stem.
And then instead of like in an imperfect, you'd have like an on here.
Instead, you just have, you know, just the knee because you've already got an eta right
there.
And then same thing here with the sigma.
You don't have an alpha or an epsilon or anything like that.
So anyway, it is what it is.
It's pretty, I think these are pretty easy to remember.
Just evin, evis, evi, evimen, evita, and evisan.
And then you can notice also that, you know, these are the same.
So that's nice, right?
Oh, yeah.
They just kind of work out that way.
They just kind of work out being the same.
All righty.
So let's get into our Greek to English exercises, all right?
So here we go.
We're going to start out with sentence number one.
Kalith ei etefksan fanaton kakon veo piliavi othanevi pirin.
So here is what we are learning about.
Man, I just love to forget these subscripts, don't I?
But these are what we're learning about.
Because just as we had atrevis, we also have piliavis, okay, which means the son of Pilius.
Just as atrevis was the son of Atreus.
So this is the son of Pilius.
Son of Pilius is Achilles in the Iliad.
So that's who we're talking about.
Whenever we see this, we're talking about Achilles, okay.
So you want to take a shot at number one here?
Okay.
So the good gods mate, mate, yeah.
Doing it literally, it's going to sound weird, like they made death.
They made evil death.
They caused.
Yeah.
You're going to have to translate it, because this means like make, form, fashion, perform.
But you're going to have to translate some of the long lines of like, they rot.
They rot evil death or they, you know, planned death or caused death or whatever, but probably
like rot.
They rot wicked death.
The good gods rot evil death via Pilius, like to the divine son of Pilius.
Uh-huh, yep.
So basically what it's saying is that basically they carried this out.
They carried out this evil death, you know, basically, and it's to his disadvantage.
You'd call this a dative of disadvantage, to the disadvantage of divine Achilles, because
he's the one who's on the receiving end, basically.
Does that make sense?
So they did it to him, for him, yeah.
Okay.
And then what's this last part?
But he, like this is referring to him, right?
Yeah, exactly.
But he.
You got it.
On every period, he went up in a pyre, in a fire.
So he went up the funeral pyre.
He ascended the funeral pyre.
He ascended up in the flame, basically.
I don't think so.
I think that this sentence doesn't really make a lot of sense, but I'm not the one who
made up the sentence, okay?
You know, I would ask Clyde Farr, but he died a long time ago, so we can't ask the author
of the book.
This is the sentence he gave us.
We got to do something with it.
You know, I would translate this as, you know, the noble gods rot evil death for the divine
son of Peleus, and he ascended the pyre.
Like I would maybe say that this is probably not but, but maybe it's just and, and that
it's basically just saying like, because they did that, he went up onto the pyre.
Because like he died and now they're burning his body.
Oh, okay.
That's what I think is going on.
Does that make sense?
Like he ascends the pyre like, because he's dead.
Like they're putting him on top of a big burning pyre because they killed him.
That's what I'm taking from it.
It's kind of a weird sentence, but it is what it is.
All right.
Number two.
I'll read it to you.
The shop shooter destroyed a host of the Achaeans.
This is probably more like a host is usually like Stratos is what we do with hosts because
that's like army camp hosts.
This is more like what?
The people.
Yeah, exactly.
The people of the Achaeans because the divine, the divine son of Atreus dishonored a crisis.
Yep.
Perfect.
The priest crisis.
Yep.
You got it.
Excellent.
All right.
He burned up many hecatombs, many sacrifices.
Yep.
He burned up many hecatombs or he, he burned many sacrifices.
Yep.
And then...
So again, the shop shooter did not... help me with Achaean.
He didn't hear or listen.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Didn't hear.
Clevo is the first, yeah.
Didn't listen to the son of Atreus.
Yep.
Because he dishonored crisis.
Exactly right.
Yeah.
The second verb, Clevo, takes a genitive, which kind of makes sense because it's like
you're listening to something that's coming from a source, you know what I mean?
So anyway, yeah.
So the sharpshooter did not listen to or did not hearken to or he did not hear the son
of Atreus because he dishonored crisis.
And then...
So crisis spoke among the Achaeans or addressed the Achaeans, but it didn't please the son
of Atreus in his soul.
Perfect.
Yeah, exactly.
Very good.
All right.
Number six.
When the son of Atreus badly addressed crisis, then he enraged the sharpshooter.
Yep.
You got it.
Yeah.
So yeah.
When the son of Atreus spoke ill or spoke evilly to crisis, then he angered the sharpshooter.
You got it.
All right.
Number seven.
We set free, we set crisis free because...
Because we like him, we love him.
Right.
What tense is this?
Loved him.
Yeah.
Because it's...
It's Aorist.
It's Aorist because the...
You see like the...
Salmon.
The salmon.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So it's...
Yeah.
So we released crisis because we loved him.
All right.
And then right here, crisis iniquen aperisii aglaa apina Atreidi.
Oh, I forgot my diacritics, didn't I?
Let me just add those in real quick.
And then this is...
I'm probably talking about that.
Okay.
Sorry about that.
Crisis.
Okay.
So this is a tricky one.
Okay.
This is that verb that everyone hates, pharaoh.
So it's pharaoh in the present tense.
And then this is the past tense, this monstrosity iniquen.
I don't know why that's the past.
Obviously, they used to be totally separate words and they kind of just joined.
And then remember in the future, this is ESO.
It's just...
Yeah.
It's a weird one.
But this is...
You know what pharaoh means.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is a past that we use for pharaoh.
So crisis brought...
Yep.
Countless.
Glorious.
I'll say it again.
Ransom to the son of Atreus.
Yep.
Yeah.
Crisis brought countless shining or glorious ransoms to the son of Atreus.
The reason that we use this word for shining a lot when it comes to the ransoms is because
when they're buying back POWs or like ransoming POWs, they would often use objects that are
made of precious metals.
So they're made out of gold and silver and bronze, and then they're going to be shining.
So that's why those words get used a lot.
All right.
Number nine.
And then here we go.
I just warned you about this one, right?
So isomen apinapola ke apolisomen christin una carton efilisomen ke filo sestina kivolo.
We brought...
No.
Nope.
It's isomen.
Exactly right.
We will bring many ransoms and release crises because we loved him and he's beloved to the
free shooter.
Yep.
You got it.
All right.
And then number 10.
This is a question, right?
We got our little semicolon, which is the question mark in Greek.
Who brings the crises, ransoms to the son of Atreus?
Yeah.
And I forgot my Yoda subscript, I'm sure.
So yeah.
So basically like who brings the crises, ransoms to the son of Atreus, right?
Which feels a little backwards, but okay.
All right.
So, but yeah, because this is obviously genitive and this is dative unless I misspelled something.
Okay.
Number 11.
So we've got...
The divine son of, how do you pronounce it, Peleus?
Yeah.
The divine son of Peleus is usually how people say it.
Yeah.
Enraged, the son of Atreus.
Yep.
And then number 12.
When we burnt many sacrifices, many good sacrifices, then...
I'm not sure about the Pithomene.
Okay.
It's from Pitho.
Pitho.
We obeyed?
You're very close because it's related to the word for obey, but Pitho is like, I persuade.
And to obey is like to be persuaded.
Okay.
So yeah, it's persuade.
Then we persuaded the souls of the gods.
Yeah.
We persuaded the hearts of the gods because they offered all these sacrifices.
Then we persuaded the hearts of the gods.
Exactly.
Okay.
All right.
And then number 13.
Through the gift of prophecy, crises spoke the plans or the counsels of the gods to the
son of Atreus and the son of Peleus.
You got it.
All right.
So now we've got the Greek to English.
So I, you know, for sake of time tonight, since we don't have as much time tonight,
I already just wrote out the answers.
So what I was thinking though, is that we can, what if we, what if we put the answers
for everybody to see, and then what we'll do, we'll put our back to it and then we'll,
we'll come up with it on the fly verbally and then we'll, we can check now this.
And what I've written down here is my answer because there is no answer key for this book.
So there could be other possible right answers.
This is just what I quickly wrote down before we made this video before you were here.
So I just wrote them out and then, uh, so let's just turn our back to it.
Don't look, don't look, don't look.
All right.
Don't block it either.
Cause we want, you know, the viewers to be able to see it.
And then we're just going to kind of do these verbally.
Okay.
So the Achaeans ascended into Troy and killed the noble Priam.
Okay.
You want to tackle that one?
So what's the first?
I'll do the first one.
Okay.
The Achaeans.
So Achaei.
Right.
Would be Anevisan, okay.
Using our new, right?
So Achaei, Anevisan is Ileone, ke, and they killed the noble Priam.
So ke, um, like we could use Olekisan, right?
Oleko.
So we could say Olekisan, uh, Priamon kalon.
Right.
Okay.
Let's see how we did here.
Don't look at this other.
Anevisan is Ileone, ke, Oleko.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
Olekisan, I made up like an heiress version, but I don't think there really is even an
heiress of this verb in the extant literature.
So what I did in my answer was an imperfect Oleko.
I don't know if Olekisan is a thing.
It could be though, but Olekon Priamon kalon.
Okay.
All right.
So does that, does that make sense?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
So now I'm going to let you take a stab at one.
Okay.
We burned many good hecatombs to the Olympian gods.
The we burned might be a tough one.
So present tense is kata keo, right?
Yeah.
You got it.
Yep.
So eka...
Man.
I want to say it's like, and I might pronounce, I'm doing this on the fly.
Like kata kefsemen is what I would say.
Let's just go with that and see how close we were.
Okay.
So what about the next part?
So they, we burned many goodly hecatombs to the Olympian gods.
So I would go, you're using nominative there.
We want to do to the Olympian gods.
So don't want to do like maybe like a dative, plural.
Yeah.
Theis olimbis.
Yeah.
That works.
All right.
Let's cover up and see.
So ekaefsemen.
So I think that's similar to what we said, ekaefsemen, ekatombas, polas, kekolas.
That's the use of hendiadis that we talked about.
And then olibisi theisi.
And remember this, this yoda on the end is optional, right?
Yeah.
That's optional.
So, I mean, you could, like you did it, you could just say, you could just say theis olimbis.
And that works too.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
Let's do the next one here.
So crises spoke among the Achaeans, but the son of Atreus did not hearken to him.
So I'll do this one.
Okay.
So let's say crises spoke among the Achaeans would be metaepen, achaisi, ala atrevis, uk
eklien tu.
Or I'd say, yeah, utu eklien, or utu eklien tu.
All right.
Let's see.
Let's see how we did here.
Okay.
So crises, metaepen, achaisi, atrevis, I said ala, but you could also use that like this.
So atrevis, utu eklien.
Yeah.
Sounds good.
Okay.
Cool.
All right.
Let's see.
And this, this member, this may not be gospel because I just wrote this right before the
video.
So, but I think it is gospel though.
All right.
So let's see.
What's next here.
Okay.
Number four, the Achaeans addressed the son of Atreus, but he did not free crises.
So the Achaeans addressed the son of Atreus without definite article, no definite articles
in Homeric.
Achae prosaepon.
Prosaepen.
Because prosaepon, the own would be for like a, that'd be for like a, maybe like a third
person plural or something.
Right.
Cause this is, this is a singular.
Am I right?
Cause it's...
Achae.
Oh, wait.
Did I?
Oh, oh.
Oh, you're right.
Sorry.
Oh yeah.
The Achaeans plural addressed the son of Atreus.
Yep.
You're right.
Okay.
So Achae prosaepen.
Is that correct?
Yeah.
I mean, I think so.
So who did they address?
I think I probably wrote it wrong, but the son of, they addressed the son of Atreus.
And pros is going to take an accusative.
Yeah.
Okay.
Atreivin.
Yep.
Achae prosaepon atreivin.
But he did not free crises.
Or the u, uk, apelisa chrisin.
Yeah.
I'll buy that.
Okay.
So what did I put?
What did I put?
Yeah.
So I'm the one, I'm the one who screwed up here.
Right.
I think your answer is better.
Oh yeah.
Well, let's just discipline ourselves and not look at it.
But yeah.
So yeah.
So I'm the one who had the wrong letter.
Achae prosaepon atreivin uk elisa chrisin.
You said apelisa, which is fine.
So, okay.
All right.
Let's try the next one here.
Number five.
The son of Atreus will bring much ransom into the camp of the Achaeans.
So atreivis ici apinapola istraton achaeon.
Sounds good?
Yep.
All right.
Let's check it out here.
That's what I had.
Atreivis ici apinapola istraton achaeon.
Yep.
All right.
Cool.
All right.
And last one.
Number six.
Who will persuade the gods with many good hecatombs?
Who will persuade the gods?
Ts...
We'll persuade.
Um...
Ts...
Pc?
Yep.
I think so.
Ts...
Pc...
The...
Theis?
Ts...
Pc...
Theis?
Well, I think P, though...
I think P, though, is probably just going to take an accusative.
Okay.
That would be my guess.
I might be wrong, but I think...
So...
I'm pretty sure P, though, is going to take an accusative.
I'll double-check, though.
So it's Theis.
Mm-hmm.
So who will persuade the gods with many goodly hecatombs?
So that'd be like dative of means, like by means of many goodly hecatombs, right?
So who will persuade the gods with many good hecatombs?
Many good hecatombs.
Ts...
Pc...
Theis?
Um...
Paul...
Who...
Who will persuade the gods?
Ts...
Pc...
Theis?
Right.
Okay.
And then with many good hecatombs.
So the many good hecatombs are going to be a dative of means, right?
Yeah.
Polis.
Uh-huh.
You could do it that way.
Yep.
Kekalis ekatomvis.
Ekatom...
Ekatomvis polis kekalis.
All right.
Well, let's check out what I had.
Ts...
Pc...
Theus ekatomvisi.
I guess I like to use those yodas on the end.
It's an alternative.
Ekatomvisi...
Polisi...
Polisi kekalisi.
Yeah.
Same thing.
I just use the yodas on the end.
So...
Yeah.
All right.
So that's it.
That's the English to Greek exercises.
We will see you guys next time on Lesson 12.