all right guys all right we are live and I say that in air quotes cuz we are
actually premiering this right now because my internet is lousy out here
in the middle of nowhere but you know I'm gonna get that worked out and I
absolutely love living out here today I saw 12 deer I'm sorry not 12
18 deer in our backyard so you know you live in the middle of nowhere when
you see 18 deer in your backyard and so that's why unfortunately this is gonna
be premiered but you know I'm gonna get this figured out I'm gonna try to I know
there's a device that you can hook up two internet streams together and like
boost it to one so I'm gonna try doing that that doesn't work I don't
know I don't know I don't know what we're gonna do from there but the
the internet company will only like go to the outside of your house now
because of this whole COVID crap so they don't even really help you anymore as
well so anyway today we're gonna be talking with Lisa Plumbo this is
Health Matters so this is our first Health Matters show I'm really excited
to do more of these live streams we've been talking about them for a while
now but then a bunch of stuff happened in our personal lives and then you know
this move kind of postponed all that but I'm settled and getting settled in
to the new place and we're gonna get get this show back on the road here
so again guys we have Lisa Plumbo in the in the house in the hot seat and
we're gonna be talking about face masks required for entry everyone sees those
signs posted at all the restaurants and stores when you walk in face masks
required and it's super annoying whether or not you want to wear a mask
that's up to you in my opinion but it's just really annoying that they're
mandating these masks everywhere so we're gonna be talking about face masks
today Lisa thank you so much for joining us today it's always a pleasure
talking with you and your husband you guys definitely helped us out with the
move quite a bit and so I appreciate that only good only good friends help
other people move so I appreciate that yeah yeah we're really excited too
it's definitely a new phase in our life here but I think it's definitely a
positive transition for us we have a great church about eight minutes from
our house now the nearest town is 30 minutes from our house but or 20 22
minutes but we have a church that it's about 200 people I haven't been there
yet so I probably shouldn't be praising it too much but Matt Powell actually
goes to that church he said it's a great church so I'm just taking his
word on it and so yeah so it's yeah working out and just by chance that
we happen to move you know eight minutes away from this church but Lisa
you know tell tell us a little bit about your feelings on the mass I know
a lot of people know your feelings but it just really bothers me and I just
wanted to hear your opinion yeah I couldn't agree more I think it is a
giant overreach you can't you know it's not a one-size-fits-all policy to
mask healthy people because it's not a benign medical intervention when you
look at the consequences to wearing a mask you can't deny it you can't deny
physics you know the idea that they the data is is mixed if you try to
find out is this just something that we have to worry about droplets or do
we have to worry about aerosols and you see both I just finished dr. Judy
Michael it's his books on masks and she talked she cites both sides she's like
look the science is trying to say that the aerosols are a concern but then you
see other published literature that say that aerosols are not a concern so
which is it can't so when they first started putting everybody directly
on ventilators which we know you know there was a monetary incentive of
thirty nine thousand dollars the one of the reasons they bypassed doing a
CPAP or just an oxygen mask was because they were concerned of
aerosolizing this very deadly virus so again they were basing on spread of
COVID to through aerosols and so aerosols are just the air we breathe
there was a medical doctor who did a video with like a vaping device and
so he put on various masks he put on you know a cloth mask that you can buy
and again there's no standardization with those cloth masks they're all very
different and so you put on even a thick one the vape will go directly out
the front there's no it's just it's kind of interesting I mean and then
the surgical mask the weave is in such a way that again physics it's just
going to change the direction so you have the jet stream of your breath goes
up that's why people's glasses fog up or it goes out the sides so again those
aerosols are not going to be completely contained whatsoever it's not
like the mass continues to bloom now there is some retention because there's
been multiple unbiased studies that show that I have an oxygen pulse
oximeter myself and I've measured people out cashiers that are willing to
check their blood oxygen saturation and it does drop significantly
upon wearing the mask because think about this in the atmosphere the
primary gas in the atmosphere is nitrogen right but the atmosphere
contains on average about point zero four percent carbon dioxide but when
you exhale your your waste product of your breath contains four percent
carbon dioxide that's a hundred times greater so you are displacing the
availability of oxygen right and you are going to increase the rebreathing of
carbon dioxide you just can't get away you know there's no escaping the
biological laws of cause and effect like it's just inevitable no matter
what kind of mask you're wearing so by rebreathing carbon dioxide you're
acidifying your blood so you're increasing your body's pH to be acidic
so you're actually lowering the pH and then you're not getting enough oxygen
your blood oxygen saturation is going to go down so what environment I mean
you know about Gerson you know about all those things if you have an acidic
environment and you have a hypoxic environment what thrives in that cancer
yeah so cancer thrives so cancer of course is a devastating diagnosis
something chronic and horrible that nobody wants to have to deal with that
and our immune system can keep it in control if we have if our if our
body's physiology is able to regulate itself but when you do this
intervention for I mean some people have to wear these things all day long
so you're increasing your cancer cell proliferation you're increasing cancer
growth and and for what to avoid something that we now know is like a
point one percent risk like does that seem like a good trade-off to mask
every healthy person when most people will just breeze through this
without a problem yeah exactly and that's what I just find so infuriating is
that they're mandating this all over the country for something that's not even
proven to work and it's a control issue if you ask me because it makes no
sense that the the the the implement like when you go to for instance I went
to Chipotle and you you can't walk through the line to get a food but you
can be a foot away in the eating section eating all day long it's like
it doesn't make any sense this one lady pulled me out of line she panicked I
walked into Chipotle without a mask on she pulled me aside she was like hey I
can't have you in here you got to leave you got to leave I'll take your
order outside I was like just give me a coke and then we can I can we just
order like as long as I had a coke in my hand we could order it's like I
know it's stupid it is not based this is has nothing to do with with
safety with health it's all to do with how much can they get away with how
much can control how much are people willing to submit to and that's why we
really have to stand up to this because this is you know people say
are you really willing to die in this hill what's the same hill it's
only gonna just get steeper and worse I mean this if you can't buy goods
and services like I got kicked out of a different sprouts location last night
and so I wasn't able to buy you know I wanted to buy some greens and I so I
wasn't able to buy healthy food because I didn't have something
obstructing my breathing over my face and so and again there was like
three people three customers in the store social distancing was completely
and I mentioned that to the manager but she didn't care and again they
don't want to listen to you they just are robotically going through the
emotions of we're not you're not allowed to be in the store you need to leave
and she called the police and so I left before they got there well you are
super troublemaker I'm actually gonna call you back we have a great bad
connection but just stay on the line with us and I'm just gonna call you
right back yeah I mean none of it makes sense and it's just it's
infuriating to me that they're implementing this but you know what
it's it's not the mark of the beast but it's definitely a step towards that it
shows how they can control you and can implement laws that literally make it
so you cannot buy and sell so I mean definitely not saying it's the mark of
the beast but it's that hill that we're just yeah leading towards that
for sure I'm you know if you're willing to die in the hill then you
it's the same hill so we have to you know take a stand now or we are gonna
be under full blown tyranny and the definition of tearing people don't
realize that these mandates are not laws and I can't stress that enough
mandates are not laws so there's the governor the mayor they only have so
much authority over they're not even their constituents like they only have
so much authority a mandate cannot compel an individual to do anything so
these mandates are really it's a strong word but it's really just
guidelines or recommendations so that's all this mandate is so you don't have
to feel like you're breaking the law so all those little rule followers out
there who think well I know it's bad for me I know they don't work I
know but I'm gonna I don't want to break the law but you're not breaking
the law because mandates are not laws and they haven't made any new laws
regarding masks so here's the thing so if you have a store policy that is in
violation of an existing law that that cannot be so it's kind of like if you
have a store policy that you know assault is okay like once you get into
that store but they can't have a store policy it has to be in in the
confines of existing state and federal law so if you so no store stores are
classified as public accommodations and so a public accommodation no store no
establishment may deny any individual free and equal access to their
facilities and services that is the law so once a store has a policy that
says well you have to wear a mask well now because that is discriminatory
so either for it violates your religious convictions which for some
people it does they don't want to block the you know the breath God gave
them that you know the life of the flesh is in the blood it's delivering
life giving oxygen to every cell you know that could be something or they
could say well this is the precursor to the mark of the beast I don't feel
comfortable take you know wearing this mask they whatever their religious
belief is they has to be respected that's the law so or you could take
the medical route and one of one of my boys looked up the like what a
disability and disability the list is so long it's so many paragraphs and
just impeding oxygen falls under some of the things that are classified as
disability so you can fall under they can't they can't discriminate
against you if you have a disability so that that works as well so they
can't have a store policy that violates existing existing law and it says
medical advice this is a medical intervention it is not benign there are
consequences and only a medical professional can give you medical advice
and whenever you're given medical advice you have to also have informed
consent and informed consent can only come from a doctor so you could say
well are you the doctor on site giving medical advice and of course they're
gonna say no and they say well this is a medical intervention and you are not a
doctor so you were not qualified to give me medical advice so there's so
many ways to to look at this and to make it illegal so that's what I
pointed out to the manager as she was on the phone with the police and I
said you have to understand that you're the one breaking the law like
what law did I break you're calling law enforcement but I didn't break the law
you broke the law and so and I you know cited several things and but she
wouldn't even listen to me so I mean it adds so much stress your life
I mean every time I think about having to go to a store any store I'm
just stressed out before I even get there I'm thinking oh my goodness how am
I gonna I'm just kind of I'm thinking to myself okay I'm just gonna walk in
like I own the place I'm just gonna go straight to the back like let's do
it and I prepare myself and I do it and it's just stressful and then most
of the time people I I've had very good luck most of the time people just
leave me alone but sometimes though it's just a fight and then it's like
then they ask you to leave they escort you out and it's just annoying
no it absolutely is but I think some of the stores that were really
militant in the beginning like Walmart even I guess Target I haven't been to
Target but Walmart, Target I believe Lowe's that they've all backed down and
the CDC actually issued something a week or two ago that was oh are you
still there yeah I'm still here that said do not argue with the
anti-maskers and again with the name you know the negative connotation
calling us anti-maskers like anti-vaxxers and you know when with
anti-vaxxers most of them are ex-vaxxers they're not anti-vaxxers they
did it and they saw the results so so they have that guide new guidelines
updated guidelines front of CDC not to argue with them yet Sprouts is the
one that will not back down so I feel like they are the pilot test study
what are people willing to do and like I've noticed that their their stock
prices have gone down there they're not busy every time I go in there the one
by me doesn't have a door person so I am able to get in there most of the
times successfully but the door person you do know it's better to just walk
right past the door person and ignore them so last night I did that I
ignored the door person but they chased me down and the thing is it's
rather intimidating being chased by someone with a mask on that's yelling
at you and I also found out that if they block you if they're willfully
blocking someone's ability their path but that's actually a misdemeanor so you
would have you know you'd have to film it I found that out just recently
and there's a bunch of other things when they have all these you know
mazes and things like that that's that's actually also considered it falls under
something unlawful imprisonment it sounds like a very harsh term too but it
actually there is law that you know again laws you start reading them and
they go on forever you know there actually is criteria that that is
unlawful and then not letting you um you know holding you up against your
will so and then you know the intimidation the harassment all these
kind of all these kind of things I think there's gonna be a lot more
lawsuits yeah it got to a point where I just had to just say we're not
going to sprouts anymore because it just got so ridiculous that especially
the one near me where I used to live was just I don't they had to have
been the worst sprouts out there they were so bad so militant no they all are
really becoming that way I'm the one by me is not I mean I have been kicked out
of there but the last three times they now have self-checkout so that kind of
helps and I feel like the managers kind of they don't want to have to deal
with it and they're staying in their office and choosing not to have to you
know essentially harass people no so and if they do physically touch you
like did that person that when you were at Chipotle did she she touch your
no she didn't touch me no but she was just she was panicking it was so
ridiculous like I don't know if they're panicking because they're
honestly scared or if they feel like they're gonna get in trouble if you don't
get you out of there like I don't yeah that's a great question I'm not
really sure I think maybe that I should pose that question to the person the
next time something like this happens because you know if you look at the
latest data there was a lot of a lot of hubbub I guess about the latest CDC
when they went through all of the cases or excuse me all the deaths and
only about 9,000 some odd people died only of kovat out of all the deaths
and so you know people will try to say well you can't those other people
wouldn't have died if they didn't get covered well another epidemiologist
said well over half of those people would have died of something at this
year because they were on their way out so it could have been anything and
even even nursing homes know that a common cold can result in an 8% death
rate and a nursing home you know so yeah so again for the average person
you're looking at a less than 1% risk so and ultimately what is between you
and this virus or how your disease would process would progress is your
immune system and why aren't we talking about how to help your immune system
and we're getting out of vitamin D season and that's going to you know
vitamin D regulates over 2,000 processes in your body a lot to do
with your immune system so yes that's why cold and flu season comes when it
does when people's vitamin D levels have dropped substantially well the
summer's over well I know that the CDC and I wish I would have wrote this down
before the show but didn't the CDC just come out and say that only like
12% of the cases were actual deaths from COVID alone that's what I was
referring to I was referring to it numerically with the 9,000 but it's
it's 6% so they said 6% of the yes so you were talking about the same
thing now the 12% number might be in your head because when they did that
in Italy they came up with 12% so but here in the United States it happened to be 6%
so I mean again 9,000 people if you go to the FDA website and you look up
you know why learn about adverse drug reactions and in a little blue box it
says because 106,000 Americans die every single year from properly prescribed
prescription drugs and if you really dig into that number you'll find that
that's inpatient so if you're in the hospital and the nurse says okay mr.
Wittenberger here's your medicine and it's the right dose at the right time
everything's perfect and you still die as an adverse reaction to the
medication that's part of that 106,000 and it's actually 198,000
people die every year from outpatient prescriptions so when you add up all
the nosocomial infections all the medical errors that Western medicine is
the leading cause of death in the United States well I mean yeah I mean
what we've been saying since the beginning is is this is not a deadly
virus I mean if you look at the flu deaths I mean this seems like not even
as deadly as the flu because how many yeah when we again it goes back to the
very beginning and you know intelligent unbiased scientists all looked at the
princess cruise ship right and they were like look there's a perfect model
right there this is not a projection like the Imperial College you did that
unbelievably crazy modeling where they didn't even release how they came
up with the numbers and it was it was just the worst prediction they
were off by orders of magnitude however if you looked at in the very beginning
we had that princess cruise ship those are people were mostly in the high
risk category and you had about what a 1% death rate in the high risk
category so why wouldn't anybody say wow there's your model yeah that's
perfect and that's what we ended up seeing because again once you increase
the age group if you do deaths by age it does increase your your propensity
to die from this virus does go up with age yeah so that's and it affects
everyone differently because I I know a good friend of mine Ray Hester mr.
Hester he actually got the virus and his whole family got it and his
daughter said it didn't feel like anything it was like nothing like a cold
or something but his but mr. Hester actually you know it put him down he
was pretty sick but you know I've been sick with the flu pretty bad and where
it puts me down where I feel like I'm on death's door I mean does that does
that mean that we need to just shut down everything and mandate that people
wear a mask that people they can't even come in and and check my internet
I mean it's just this is all just so ridiculous and so I I wanted to talk
about real quick about how I've been getting away with how I've been
getting away with kind of following the rules by wearing a mask and not
following the rules so I've had to go on a lot of trips to for the the new
movie to Portland and or I mean on Texas we went to Kansas City we went to
a bunch of different states and what I've been doing because they make you
wear it on the plane is I've just been wearing the mask up to the bottom
my lip and it's like a 99% success rate no one says anything you don't cover
your mask but I still feel like I'm compromising the whole time I'm wearing
it underneath because I'm putting it on but you know I'm doing it to get
through I do it and then you know I have wore it a couple times because the
interviewers requested that I wear it and they wouldn't even do the interview
if I didn't wear it so I was like fine I'll wear the mask but it's just
you the whole time you wear the mask you just feel like just this
horrible person that is being silenced you're being shut up like this has to
be a psychological thing that they're doing on us to make us know who's in
charge like I just don't get it one of the other reasons that shows it's
about compliance it's not about the science is the CDC said that face
shields that the the jury's still out on face shields which makes no sense
because they keep saying it's those droplets droplets droplets how many
times we're gonna hear about blocking the droplets well face shields
block the droplets because nothing's gonna block the aerosols you can prove
that so quickly with all types of masks from you know n95s clock masks or or
surgical masks the the aerosols are still dispersed out into the environment
and and it is with a face shield but the block droplets are blocked so but
the thing is if people were face shields you could still interact you
can still interact with people you could smile at them you could still
see facial expressions it wouldn't be so doomsday I mean I don't like to
see all these masks people it gives me a ton of anxiety it does yeah all
these people in masks it's one thing to even have you know to think you have to
wear it yourself but just seeing people it's very depressing it's very
depressing to see that people are just willing to to comply and but the
thing is the more of us that set forth an example of peaceful civil
civil disobedience it doesn't bolden others you know courage is contagious
and so I've had you know I remember I walked in a Ross with two of my kids
and I you know I said well we're not compromising we're not even putting on
the mask we're not gonna do that we're not gonna do the putting on the
mask and then taking it off like you said or lowering it that's that's
not it is you're right they have this security guy at the door and it's
me and two of my kids and they he's like he's like man you need to have
masks to come in the store I said actually no you don't and he said he
said you have we have a store policy so I went through the whole thing but you
can't have a store policy that violates existing state and civil law
and I said here's the state and civil law that you're violating so I
said I'm not in the wrong you are and then we just walked the guy was
like the guy didn't know what to do he was like what so the guy behind me
coming in he just said what she said and he took his off I had him come up
to me and this little old lady come up to me and she pulled her mask down when
she saw I didn't have a mask and she's like I know this is not doing
anything I know that this is in and so she's just like but I'm seeing you
so I'm gonna take off mine so the three of us are all Facebook friends
yeah I mean we have to stand up against this you know obviously you you got to
go about your life in some some way but we need people everyone that doesn't
wear the mask in the store really does say something and so I think it's
awesome when I see people without masks in stores but it's very rare I mean
usually I'm the only one without a mask in the store but one thing to go along
with what you said is at the airport when I was getting all my luggage I you
know I took off my mask and then I noticed a few people notice me and
then they took off their mask as well while I was waiting for my bag so it
is contagious and so you know we just need people yeah go ahead I make a
point to talk to people that don't have masks I don't know if you do that too
but I always make a point to talk to the people and I have met like I said I
had the two from Ross and then I had this lady we were pulling open a
cooler like next to each other and she didn't have a mask on I'm like and so
I shut the door and I said oh it is so good to see someone's face and see
a smile and she was sure that I think she was she said she was 76 and she
said well that's because this is all BS that's awesome we talked for like 45
minutes and she was the funniest lady and she gave me her phone number she
sends me really cool videos and stuff all the time and she gave me her number
and when I was putting her contact on my phone at the store I said what
what's your last name she said just put the rebel and then there was a
gentleman walking past us and he had his mask on under his nose and she
said oh look at this guy he's trying to get some fresh air that's funny yeah
it's really fun like I've met some of the most really sharp people like
just really fun people that don't wear masks well you know they're cool
people because I mean anyone that stands up against this is usually a
pretty decent person because you know I just don't get why people are just going
along with this because this is so draconian if you want to wear a mask
wear a mask I don't care like what does it matter to me if you want to wear
a mask go ahead but it's just this making everyone wear a mask that is so
ridiculous I I want to change this subject a little bit into social
shaming can you talk about how they're they're making everyone like it not
only do they make you wear a mask but it seems like they're trying to socially
shame you into wearing masks too what are your thoughts on that again I'm more
I have more apprehension about the people like the customers in stores
than I do about the workers because I know they'll probably conduct
themselves in a professional manner they're you know they want to keep
their job but it's the it's the customers that you have to worry
about you gotta like have all eyes you know looking around know your
surroundings because they're the ones who can get really belligerent and they
make all kinds of nasty comments and you're just thinking oh my goodness you
know I could say the same about you with your cart full of you know ding
dongs and ho hos and soda like that has much more of an impact on your
immune system than wearing this little piece of cloth in front of your face so
so you know there's there's so many ways to look at it I I've seen a
homework or you know schoolwork with kids young children that are having to
do these little you know cut and paste books of thumbs up or thumbs down
with different scenarios like it shows a little girl that's away from people
you know obviously like six feet away from all her classmates and she's
wearing her mask up over her nose and everything and it gets a thumbs up
whereas she then she pastes a thumbs down next to a situation where two
kids are hugging like that's no longer okay and kids you know we need
each other we're social beings we need the interaction kids thrive on an
interaction and close interaction kids are always little close talkers and you
know they mean they they should have that freedom and now we're just like
you said before you mentioned the psychological aspect like this is going
to have long-term psychological detrimental effects on kids for years
to come I mean just like we have the deaths of despair that are rising
faster than deaths from COVID and they will continue when people lose
their businesses and lose their livelihoods and you know between
domestic violence and suicides and all kinds of overdoses on and you know
they're taking antidepressants all kinds of things so that's going to have a much
larger impact detrimentally to our country what are we doing to these poor
kids that that they can't even interact in a normal basis they can't go
on the playground and play tag they can't be kids yeah yeah I mean this
world has really gone crazy and I just really appreciate people like you
that stand up against this draconian measures because this is not a world I
want to live in and you know a lot of people are just throwing up their hands
but if people don't stand up and do something about this it's just gonna
get worse it's just gonna be prolonged you know obviously this is gonna end
some point but all the laws that were implemented during this period will be
in place and more laws are being passed right now then probably in the last 20
years laws that are taking away our rights taking away our freedoms one bit
at a time and so we need to stand up against these draconian practices
because you know it they could implement this again on a different
scale and those laws will be ready to go they'll be not as hard to implement
and people will be more used to it so we want to get this over I I know you
sent over some studies through messenger do you want to you want to
talk about that which one did you want to start with the commentary
first that I had I kind of underlined it in red shot it's very I'm the
scientific article so I got the actual article that you now for example today
I well last week I notified you know the schools that I will not be returning
after happily working as a substitute teacher for seven years I'm not going
to be going back because after I did some safety training class I realized
just in that class that I wouldn't I was gonna compromise and wear a face
shield because I thought well okay but that's not allowed and then and so I'm
certainly not going to compromise my health to wear wear a mask all day and
I just feel like how can you possibly teach and communicate effectively with a
muzzle on your face you can't yeah and it's a psychological thing where it
says like don't listen to me you know I don't matter it's gonna I I
swear it's gonna make kids worse at schools not better oh yeah yeah and
historically masks have been used as tools to for submission especially with
women and children no signs of submission you know and they also have
a rich history and occultic practices so I just started skimming some of these
articles I couldn't believe how easily if you go on DuckDuckGo and and you
look up masks rituals occult like you can't believe how many practices that
this you know so certainly we don't want to be part of this an occultic
practice and they usually always start with isolation because isolation
solitary confinement is one of the most severe forms of punishment and it
really messes with your head and that's what they did to us first you
know they put us under house arrest they isolated people and by doing that
then they then the masks and that's kind of like how the occult rituals
line up so it's it's not something that is coincidental I don't think I mean it
definitely blocks your airflow I mean people who say that it's no big
deal that it's just you know it's it's normal breathing just like no
it's not like when you put it on it's hard to breathe it like affects how
you act and I know we've showed in previous shows that article where those
Chinese boy in the playground or they're running and that died and that was that
was a real article was that New York what was that it was two two children
both died in PE not at the same school not at the same time two
separate incidences but they were exerting themselves with masks and they
both drop dead and then there was the person who crashed their car wearing an
n95 mask and they crashed their car and even some of the studies that show
with n95 in a medical setting that they that doctors after wearing n95 for an
extended period of time couldn't do simple comprehension tests like they
literally were lacking that much oxygen to their brain and they
experienced headaches which is a symptom of hypoxia so and then there was there
was somebody who collapsed a lung I think we might have talked about that
one somebody was running with a mask and their lung collapsed so again you
can't deny you can't deny that this isn't impacting people's ability to
breathe and with with the with this study that you're gonna pull up it does
just the highlighted portion talks about how there was a let's see what
was it 13 times I believe yeah it says it says UK Medical Journal showed
healthcare workers who wore cloth masks all day while working were 13 times
more likely to get a respiratory illness when compared to the standard
practice of wearing masks wearing a mask when necessary right so they
compared cloth masks to a surgical mask only as needed throughout the day so the
cloth mask we're wearing them all day which a lot of people that work in
retail or what-have-you in a restaurant they're wearing them all day and the
cloth masks you know the commentary went on to say well it could be
because cloth masks are thicker and the material retains moisture so again
if you've ever worn something over your face even a scarf it warms the
air and it's going to condensate onto that onto that mask it gets wet it
gets wet from from breathing so all that just like on your floor when you you
know you're like oh you guys got water all the floor now the dirt
collects on those water droplets so all the dirt debris the viral
particles the bacteria fun fun guy everything is gonna collect on that wet
cloth mask and then you've got this nice warm space for it to breed and
proliferate and you're breathing that into your lungs so again a 13 times
higher risk of any type of respiratory infection it could be a fungal
respiratory infection it could be a bacterial respiratory infection so
they're pushing the cloth mask because the CDC recently said do not
wear the n95 because the n95 have that exit vent and so it doesn't
filter any air it just completely goes out so the whole idea of you wear
your mask protect me I wear mine to protect you would not would not hold
any water with an n95 because it's not going to block right so so they said
no to those so they're pushing the cloth mask because there's no
standardization there's no regulation OSHA can just be like well we don't do
anything with cloth masks because they're all different so so I feel
like that's they're gonna try to plead ignorance although look at this
randomized clinical trial with I believe it was 1,600 participants in the trial
so it's not a small study at all and if you look and I sent you the original
article I just wanted to point out that when people are reading scientific
articles that when they see that RR it says you know for the cloth mask
group the RR was 13 so that RR stands for relative risk so again your risk
is 13 times greater to get a respiratory infection if you wear a cloth mask all
day and again 13 times what is that percentage that's 1300 percent 1300
percent that is astoundingly huge and again what pharmaceutical drug have
you ever heard advertised on TV that you'll have a 1300 percent less risk
of getting heart disease if you take this drug give me a break they can
they're lucky if they can get 13 percent not 1300 so this is
definitely absolutely without a doubt not a benign intervention and nobody we
should all just have a mask burning it's crazy so and if everybody did it
what are they gonna do they can't arrest us all you know as many
criminals as they let out of prison there's still not enough room for all
of us no that's such a great point because this is all our fault because
if everyone just stopped wearing masks there's no way they can implement this
but the problem is is every time you walk into the store you're the only one
not wearing a mask so I I just encourage everyone that's listening to
this stream to stop wearing masks you know out to places when you go put up
a little bit of a fight just a touch you know if you know wear it maybe
once don't wear it every once every other store or something just try to
implement in your life where you stop yeah and if you don't want to avoid
confrontation at all costs there are stores that don't give you a hard time
so just shop at those stores you know so just find the stores that you know
so that you're one of those people that are in there that are emboldening
others again that the courage is contagious and if our numbers go up
people will well more people will do it and they see others when they see
others doing it um and again you know it's so funny because they push these
masks so hard it that tells me right away that they don't work because if
they did work they'd be banned like hydroxychloroquine you know so so and
anybody that there's a lot of confrontation and there's a lot of you
know you just made a lot of people upset right there a lot of people are
in the comments right now that doesn't work okay but guess what did those
people that say it doesn't work did they listen to that seven-hour
presentation by a physician that showed that there are actually five mechanisms
of action for hydroxychloroquine and the coronavirus there's actually five
not one I thought there was only one I thought it drove zinc into the cells
that's only one mechanism out of five it literally is that much of a smart
bomb and I knew right away that chloroquine there's so many different
ones that I found that article right from the get-go that chloroquine was a
potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus the original SARS from 2001 and that
told me that was published by the NIH study that when Fauci was over
there so I'm like I can't believe this that people they knew it worked
then for that SARS and why wouldn't it work now so and it actually yes five
mechanism I watched all seven hours so I I feel very confident with saying and
I would personally never take it because I don't take pharmaceuticals you
know I personally would never take it because I know that my immune system
would be fine on its own I wouldn't need that that yeah thank you so much
for saying this because a lot of people are haters but it's like okay
well if you're so worried about this then you can take that there that's an
option that's what you're saying right and you can take it prophylactically
and the dose prophylactically is so incredibly low that it's like 225
milligrams okay I don't even know what that word means what is
prophylactically mean to to prevent to prevent and that is why if
there is a treatment or a prevention they cannot get the vaccine to have
emergency use authorization with zero liability covered under the prep act not
even the vaccine injury compensation program not even that not even that
liability we're talking absolute blanket liability but the only way they
can qualify for that is if there is no treatment and if there's no if
there's no effective treatment and there's no prevention and there's both
with hydroxychloroquine does both so that's why there's the attack on
hydroxychloroquine not because it's dangerous it's been in use for many
decades it's considered completely safe pregnant women can take there's no
contraindications like it's just it literally is that safe not that I
personally would ever take it because I don't do pharmaceuticals but for
other people that are at high risk to take that prophylactically and never
allow the viral load in your body to ever give you symptoms to just keep
that viral load and check I think yeah why why wouldn't you well I know I want
to have a whole show dedicated to vaccines the coronavirus vaccine
because I know that they they do want to implement this to travel like
it might not be mandated for everyone but if you go to school they're
probably gonna implement it that you have to take this vaccine to go to
school and they're probably gonna implement it that if you want to go
to a different country you're gonna have to take this vaccine and you know
for people do not care about this is it's just baffles my mind that you're
gonna have to take this vaccine that has absolutely no clinical trials like
it's just being rushed into market who knows what kind of health effects this
is gonna cause and could you talk about that just a little bit we want
to have a whole show on this but maybe just a little bit and we'll go back
to the mass there there's skipping the long term you know to see the long
term effects they're skipping that entirely obviously because it would
take many years for it to see long-term effects autoimmune diseases
which we know are caused by many vaccinations because again why wouldn't
you look at the one place that permanently alters your immune system
and all of a sudden you have an autoimmune disease like that's the
most logical explanation but people will say oh we don't know what causes
autoimmune diseases although the where they are truthful is on the vaccine
package inserts they list all those autoimmune diseases type 1 diabetes they
list rheumatoid arthritis things like that they know that vaccines have
the potential to cause those disorders in people and again our chronic
disease has gone through the roof we have 54% of children have a chronic
disease now whereas before the vaccine injury compensation program before we
took liability away from vaccine manufacturers and we jumped you know
what was it let's see in the 60s there was just two injectables one
oral polio and now we have 72 doses that little kids have to get so we
went from 12.8 percent in 1986 of chronic disease to 54 percent I mean
I'm sure all those parents that have kids that could have anaphylactic
reactions that have seizure disorders that they are on a constant alert high
alert for their children's well-being would trade a week of
chickenpox for for a lifelong debilitating disease and that's that's
a horrible trade-off to to to avoid a childhood infection that lasts a week
you know cough fever and a rash like chickenpox or a battle with COVID I mean you
know to get a nasty cold for a week and then we don't have any idea what
the ramifications the the adverse reactions are gonna be so and again if
you have a 0.1 percent death rate for most for like the healthy people
why in the world would you take a vaccine that in the Moderna and think
about that name Moderna it's modify mod mod your RNA like no thanks so you
have this Moderna vaccine that had their group it was 15 in the high dose
15 in the medium dose 15 in the low dose and 20 percent of the high dose
needed hospitalization and medical attention that in these who do they get
for these clinical trials they get the healthiest people they can possibly
find these aren't people that have comorbidities these aren't people that
have health problems these are like the healthiest people they can possibly
find and they're still dropping like flies and 20 percent so if you have a
20 percent severe adverse reaction in just that one test group why in the
world would you say oh yeah 20 percent severe adverse reaction or
point one percent you know what I mean like come on no way I don't see
how people can logically process that rationally to to take that risk and you
know you being a teacher and all I'm sure that they are gonna mandate you
actually get the vaccine to go to work too so I told them I'm not
returning because I won't wear a mask no and I would have compromised with
the face shield because but it wasn't allowed and I just think that's crazy
and then so a teacher actually called me today to ask me to do a long-term
job and I told her you know why and I gave her a lot of read I gave her a lot
to think about and of course she's like well I'm not even allowed to have
an opinion or I'll lose my job yeah pretty much well you know what that
means though is she says she pretty much agrees with you she just can't
admit so she she understood and she said unfortunately if you take a special
needs position because they can't enforce the masks on kids with special
needs because they can't understand it so and I'm so thankful to hear that
that they're not going to be just constantly putting these masks on these
children that they require the teachers and special needs classrooms
that have to wear both a mask and a face shield what yeah no way you
well you I'm sure you watch that the the YouTube are the video that was
surfacing Facebook of that two-year-old that woman that was kicked off the
airplane for a two-year-old keep that kept taking off the mask I mean
what a horrible horrible person that flight attendant was to kick that
family off that flight I mean everyone on that plane knew that that flight
attendant had totally overstepped their bounds but yet it seems like they just
she still got kicked off she still lost her seat it's just crazy it's crazy
yeah and that's like a microcosm you know here the the mass in that
situation watched this crazy act of overreach transpire and they were
against it yeah why aren't they against it in general you know so so
here's like a microcosm of this lady's like you know yelling at a
two-year-old like you know what in the world like I actually I don't know if
she was yelling at a two-year-old but but even if she's yelling in front of
the two-year-old yeah it's like you need to keep this mask it that's
that's crazy to me and and to think that they're putting people on
no-fly lists that don't comply yes like that and it wasn't just that
lady in her family I got kicked off there was this guy that was next to
him that was just sticking up for the family he also got kicked off the
flight as well so I mean yeah yeah it's just but go back to what you're talking
about right there cuz that is really interesting you know I said that and then
I forgot because you were you brought up a great point and good night I just
stepped all over you right before that but they see it on a micro level within
an airplane but yet they're not rising up to see the tyranny in general and
again they attacked Andy Biggs Congress Congressman Andy Biggs local congressman
man here who's been speaking out against the masks for a lot and he's
just and I read this article on I think it was az-central that just bashed
him and I thought it was both an ad hominem attack and it was there was
zero facts in this article and here's the thing by definition I said it
earlier what tyranny is is when a government or individual acts with
authority that doesn't have we acts with you know they they transpose
their desires upon a people but they don't have legal authority to back it
that is essentially by definition tyranny so the article doesn't address
that they just they make it sound very sarcastic like oh sorry Biggs this is
not tyranny you know when actually by definition it is tyranny and again they
don't ever address the the fact that this is not a benign medical
intervention they don't address that all these places of business are trying
to practice medicine without a license which I believe is a felony like you
can't practice medicine without a license in any state like that puts
people I think that is a felony so when you are giving people medical advice
you're practicing medicine without a license and then you can't get
informed consent because that can only come from a medical doctor so there's
so many different ways where the schools are all these places they're
all guilty now my kids will go back the three go back they go two days a
week or something next week starting next week but you know I wouldn't be
surprised if at least the boys would get suspended the first day for not keeping
their mask on because I know you know whatever so what happens but well we'll
see but I understand you know the Twitter seniors they want to go back
and see their friends and I just feel like they're cheated on all off of all
these different fun events that that though that age group is not at risk
whatsoever for this thing and they should have the ability to to to
interact on it like normal human beings shred we should not be depraved
of that and I feel horrible for the the kids that graduated last year I
mean got a graduation or if they did they couldn't have any family I know
my wife's nieces they graduated and they could only bring one person or
something or two people from their family and it had to be like so stupid
but again going back to the the airplane is you know you can you have
to wear a mask right to be on the airplane but then as soon as you get
some food again you take it off and it's like okay so everyone on that
plane if they had kovat would he just gave it to everyone you know it
so in it makes no sense I mean I'm not saying that in their logic you
know if all those people on the plane don't have a fever and don't have
symptoms and there are so-called asymptomatic they have yet to prove an
asymptomatic transmission remember when the WHO is like well I guess it
must be very rare because they contact trace like 400 and some people from an
asymptomatic positive person and not one of them got the coronavirus oh
really any proof whatsoever that asymptomatic transmission even exists
so every person that's on that plane if they're feeling perfectly fine then
even if they were to test positive and were asymptomatic then it the chances
of them the chances of them having a significant enough viral load to
actually make an impact on anybody is impossible it's absolutely impossible so
yeah this whole topic just it just bothers me so much I'm just I feel
like I we need to just keep talking about it because it's impacting our
daily lives everyone to to an extreme level luckily though I've noticed here
in where I live now that no one cares if you wear a mask I've been in
multiple stores and just no one cares I I don't see anyone see this is the
thing I I walk through the store and no one I'm talking with employees no
one's asking me to put on a mask so yeah everyone has a mask on so just people
you just want to shake people and like come on just take it off no one
cares around here why are you wearing it
and I did want to bring up a point for people to go ahead and investigate
because if people are in this boat where they have a loved one in a
nursing home and you know they have all these new regulations where you
can't even go visit you know a dying loved one in a nursing home and that is
to let people die alone is just wicked and cruel yeah and but the thing
is it's actually illegal so I haven't looked into it I haven't read all the
different there's so much to read on it but if you are somebody that's
listening or know somebody that is not able to visit their grandparent or
loved one in a nursing home you still can't because that nursing home already
has a policy in place that says that we will not you know ever you know not
allow you to visit your loved one like you already signed off on that and
that is your your legal agreement binding agreement and so they really
can't violate that not to mention we're not in a state of emergency if anybody
who's seen the the numbers either if you want to cite cases or deaths it's
nose-bottom to the bottom so they have they can't claim a state of emergency to
have you know a change in policy and you would have to agree to that change
in policy so I don't know the ins and outs of it I just touched on it
briefly but I said well that is something that people really need to dig
into because it's it's horrible because they're gonna be neglected if they
don't have a advocate if they don't have regular visitations there could be
bed sores all those kind of things problems that arise so yeah and all
these hospitals are like empty oh I wanted to throw a shout out to Peggy
Hall and her website the healthy American with Peggy Hall so she has a
Facebook page website YouTube channel and she is just such a wealth of
information she has an incredibly diverse background you know she speaks
several languages she knows other cultures she's lived she is just a force
to reckon with and she recently interviewed someone who knows the ins and
outs of the law and I listened to it in passing and I'm gonna go back
through and take notes but it is some fantastic information and it's so
you know you feel so emboldened like whenever I learn the law and realize the
laws on my side then I just like where can I go I want to go out and I want
to go have these conversations so um you the more you know knowledge is
power and and we have to we have to assert ourselves and get rid of this
tyrannical draconian measures for sure yeah for sure and I just showed that
website in the screen the healthy American dot org make sure you go check
out that it looks like a great site I love to see people standing up against
these practices but Peggy Hall she's single-handedly so never underestimate
the power one person single-handedly she lives in Orange County California and
she had her one minute at City Council and her one minute in front of
the Board of Health and different things like that and then she had a
lawyer draw up legal documents to sue for fraud because she kept pushing of
the issue you have to show the science that supports this blanket mandate you
have to show that there is science that backs masking healthy people and
they never provided the science because again it's not about science
it's about compliance so because they didn't apply didn't provide the science
in a time frame which she had given them they were now guilty of fraud
because there's no basis there's no basis for the mandate so she had a
lawyer draw up documents for each one of the individuals on the Board of
Health in Orange County to be sued for fraud which is a felony which would
incur prison time and they they retracted the mandate the following day
Wow good for all of Orange County yeah in California is just out of control right now California is
definitely one of the worst states on all these laws and and just seems
like everyone just follows suit with whatever California does but Lisa I
appreciate you coming on is is there anything else you want to say real
quick we're gonna have a bunch of different shows that talk about these
issues but this is the health matters with Lisa Plumbo and I know
Lisa has a million things that she's passionate about the face mask is just
one of them but it's something that just really matters right now it's very
something that's very timely and we are wanted to do a show about this I wanted
to get these shows going we're gonna try to up our game here with more
graphics more stuff but we're gonna have to slowly implement that I just
wanted to get the shows going get them started and I really appreciate
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tuning in to tonight's stream I mean there's so many things that are
going to my mind that I want to talk about and I know that I for sure know
that Lisa can talk all night and I'm sorry about these this internet
connection but you know it we're just gonna have to roll with it you're
gonna be pixelated it's just I think it's my end I have to blame me since I'm
in the boondocks but maybe next time we can figure out how we can get a hard
line to Lisa maybe we can get a webcam set up with her computer so at
least it's not Wi-Fi but we'll get all the little kinks worked out in the
future but Lisa again why what are your thoughts about this what are some of
your closing thoughts about why it's important to stand up against this well
I you know first and foremost liberty is so important and people have
forgotten that people died so that we could be free and you know we are
set free from the consequences of sin and the consequences of death by the
blood of Jesus Christ and we can be passed from death into life and we know
we can know that we have eternal life but God also wants us to be free
that's that's all all throughout the Bible and you know you you think about
that verse I was at the Friends Church yesterday to my friends invited
me to a Bible study and a verse that jumped out to me was Hebrews 2 15 so
I think I sent that over to you and it's you know I'm paraphrasing but
essentially what it's what it's saying is that because people feared death that
they were willing to be in bondage and so what are we seeing right now people
are so afraid of the corona virus when even even though they have like
more of a chance of dying of so many other things that they don't think about
like car you know driving their car or whatever but because of that fear
because the government the government-owned media has propagated this
fear onto the American people at such such intense propaganda and you know
silencing all dissenting voices that show that they're lying people have
this ingrained fear that we can no longer at this point even having a
rational discussion showing evidence to the contrary so fear is does not allow
your critical thinking to work and we have to you know when we went around
the room at the Bible study and they were like what's something you know
share something that you want the Lord to do right now and you know mine was
I want I want the Lord to quench the spirit of fear the fear is not from
God and I you know I said I want the Lord to quench the spirit of fear and
to press on the hearts of believers the value of liberty and if people don't
realize how many people sacrifice their lives so that we could be free they're
they're just never going to get it they're never going to realize how
important it is to fight for our rights fight for our God-given rights
they're trying to pass mandates that are taking away our ability to breathe
it can't get any worse than that I mean you can because but so but yeah
we're on such a bobsled to to full-blown despotic rule that people
have to wake up and I can't so this is where a good place to start you
know just equip yourself with you know Peggy Hall can equip you you just
memorize all these things and it's not even a lot you just have to
memorize like four key points that that stores our public accommodations
here's the civil law here's how you can't have a policy that violates
civil law you know very simple things to memorize and you will feel so
empowered and she even has something new that you can actually print off copies
of discrimination violations so that I'm gonna print some of those off so in
the next time I get kicked off and be like oh I'm just gonna document so
you are refusing service to me so you and again I just learned this so I
have to be more on the verbiage but but yeah that's another tool and it's
very empowering because you're gonna put them on the instead of being on the
offense they're gonna be on the defense like well you're citing me for
for discrimination you're like yes yes I am well yeah I can't say I can't
say it enough we gotta gotta fight well I really appreciate that and you
put it so so nice and I thank you for coming on and you you sent me this
quote from Patrick Henry and I wanted to show that real quick if if life
so dear or peace so sweet has to be purchased at the price of chains and
slavery forbid it Almighty God I know not what course others may take but as
for me give me liberty or give me death and I think that's a great quote
I appreciate you sending to me and I think that's a great way to end the
show here tonight Lisa you're you're awesome I love you love your family
make sure to tell everyone I said hi and yeah guys this is our first show
we're just getting back going this is the new set I have two other sets that
we're gonna be doing two other topics with so we're gonna try to do a
livestream a day I don't know if we're gonna be able to do it but I'm gonna
do it for a while here and I might pull back a little bit but I really
appreciate Lisa coming on maybe I want to be able to get Lisa on at least a
couple times a month because she is just so knowledgeable about so many
different topics and I love to hear her talk she puts everything so
eloquently I definitely cannot speak that way so I really appreciate her
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our new the new book to the store pale rider about the Spanish flu of 1918 how
it changed the world it's a good book and it shows that this is nothing new
but the the way they're doing things now is just so draconian and you
know that actually killed a lot of people this this thing that we got
going on now is not not as deadly as people are making out to be but thank
yes have people checked I think there's going to be a protest like a not you
know good people assembly at the state Capitol I believe on the 11th I just
heard about it today so I haven't looked it up okay great for that so
definitely do a little research see if that is gonna take place because I
guess there was one yesterday that I found out about today oh no yeah I
know and people need to go to those things show because you know the the
mass of people all the news media shows up and if no one's there then they
make it seem like no one cares but again this is a way to show the numbers
that people are sick of these rules and laws and it's a way to make your
voice heard numbers demonstrate what a constitutionally protected peaceful
protest really looks like because we're seeing a lot of things that
should not that are not constitutionally protected and we're seeing a lot of you
know crazy protests so yeah awesome Lisa thank you so much for joining us
here today guys I I just I love to be able to talk to people and talk to
the experts I really have nothing to bring to you but you know that's why I
have people like Lisa on because they actually do the research they study these
topics out and are very knowledgeable on these subjects so again I appreciate
Lisa all her time that she's given us tonight thank you guys so much for
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hope you guys have a good night and remember don't wear those masks so yeah
all right guys god bless