All right well today I'm here with Dr. David Kennedy. I really wanted to pick
his brain and get his take on what's happening in Dallas right now in regards
to water fluoridation. Dr. Kennedy thank you so much for joining us. I
really just wanted to talk to you about what's going on in Dallas right
now. Do you know much about what's happening there? Well just what I read
the papers you know it seems like the paper cut did not get it
completely accurate because the rest of the City Council wasn't on board. This is
a paper right here that they gave us at the Dallas Council and it says right
here that how much they spent in 1-11-12 so January of 2012 they signed a
contract with Penco which is the distributor of the hydrofluic acid and
they had a contract for two million dollars. Yeah that's only a tiny
portion of the cost. Exactly. You've got the chemical when you put
acid in you have to put base in so you got to buy an equal opposite
amount of base and then you've got to get the hazmat suit you've got to
get the the hazardous waste signs and you have to have the shower the
eye wash stands all the OSHA compliant stuff so by just looking at the cost
of the chemical you miss the true cost. The true cost is about five to ten
times the cost of the chemical alone and that's not considering any adverse
health effects that's just the process of putting a very costly chemical in
your water lines because it eats them too. It eats the
equipment and so forth it accelerates the aging of the infrastructure in the
city they don't include any of those costs. Yeah exactly and in fact they
started fluoridating it says back in 1965 so ever since 1965 they've been
putting millions and millions of dollars into this system. The problem is
coming from Washington DC that there is an army of dental hygienists dentists
advocates for fluoridation working for the United States government and
they fan out across all 50 states telling us it's really good it's
really good it's really good and they call it fluoride and most of them
cannot pronounce hydrofluoroacetic acid nor do they know what it is if you
ask them where to come from what's made out of you know what's in it they
don't know it's just they're like automatons you wind them up and they go
out and say it's good it's good it's good it's good yeah I mean even on
the paperwork they give it says hydrofluoroacetic acid well that's what
you gotta buy yeah well then you go to Penco's website it has the fluoride
listed and it gives this number that I keep seeing it's H2SIF6
That's the formula for hydrofluoroacetic acid.
That's the formula, okay.
Yeah, it's a two hydrogen molecule H2. SI is silica, it's sand.
So there's a diagram of it I can send you. Basically it's six molecules of
fluoride, F6, glommed onto a piece of sand and with two hydrogen molecules
flying around. So it's a mild acid that will eat through concrete,
stainless steel, plastics, you know most anything that it seems to have a little
trouble getting through rubber. Yeah well when I type that into Google it's
amazing like how many things I found about it that didn't come up on the
regular searches of just hydrofluoroacetic acid and it says right here it says
our position as the largest independent distributor of fluoride in the country
ensures reliability and product availability while maintaining strict
quality control measures. So Panko is not a small company. It says that Panko is
the number one largest distributor of fluoride in the country.
Yeah, they actually engage in no quality control. So this is blah blah blah blah blah blah.
We're really doing a good job for you.
The stuff is incredibly contaminated. There was a congressional investigation
about this in 2000. Every single sample they measured is contaminated with
arsenic, lead, cadmium, mercury, and a bunch of other stuff. And they said oh once we put it in your water
it's so diluted we can't find it anymore. So they believe in magic.
I guess we can put arsenic in the water and it just disappears.
Well when you say there's arsenic in hydrofluoroacetic acid people like get cross-eyed when you say that.
But it's true. On Panko's website it says the hydrofluoroacetic acid
and it says health and safety check the MSDS sheet and says
certifications NSF certification and the AWWA standard.
Okay the AWWA says that the product used may not have even the potential
for causing adverse health effects. Well that's a lot different than the ANSI standard 60.
ANSI standard 60 in order to get that they have to submit toxicological studies
on all of the products. So Congress asked them
what toxicological studies do they have on hydrofluoroacetic acid and they got the answer none.
Well let's see if you got to give them a toxicological study
chronic toxicological study on the product and they don't got one
how did they get that certificate? It's kind of like having a driver's license
and never having taken the test.
So I went to check out what this AWWA was and I printed out
their own paper on hydrofluoroacetic acid
and it says that hydrofluoroacetic acid contains
these things it says arsenic barium cadmium lead
mercury radium 226 and 228
uranium I mean
that doesn't sound like it's something we want to drink.
Well they're not being forthcoming
like many of the companies claim that they have a pure product
when you measure it, it's not pure but what they don't want to admit
and that's because the lawyers are sniffing around all the time
is that the product they're using is contaminated with sufficient amounts of arsenic for example
to cause increased cancers of bladder and lung
California has determined the public health goal for arsenic
is four parts per trillion
and so that's like four drops in the football stadium
with the bleacher seats up to the sky lobby
so four drops of arsenic in a stadium that big would be four parts per trillion
well there's like one part per billion or like
250 times more in almost every batch
and sometimes even more than that that's been tested
they have to by anti-standard 60
have an unannounced inspection annually, they have to have toxicological studies
all the ingredients in that and they have to
do batch testing so when you ask them for those
data they were unable to come up with hardly any
I think they had like 16 or something, they should have had 16,000 for Congress
you can read up on all the
they're tapped at, they're breaking so many laws, you don't have to be just concerned about the cost
you should be concerned about the rule of law, there are laws regarding
this that are not being followed
so you don't have to be anti-fluoride, you just have to be a law and order
elected official to enforce the law
if you were building a children's daycare center
and the contractor was in there pouring the concrete to build this nice new daycare center
and you'd work really hard to get this for the kiddies
and then one of the workmen came over and said you know they bought that cement
a jobber and it's not any good at all, it just crumbles in your hands
it doesn't have anywhere near the strength that it's supposed to
would you continue to build the daycare center or would you say wait a minute, wait a minute
we need to stop this until we get stuff that's compliant with the laws of this country
well 2000 Congress determined that
not one drop of the chemical added to the water supply was compliant
with the laws of this nation and they said well you know
don't worry about that, don't look over there, don't pay attention to that
and so I went to the NSF fact sheet
and it says arsenic right here, it says arsenic is the most
common contaminant detected in hydrofluic acid
in these products and it says which was detected
43% of all product samples
so 43% of all product samples they did had arsenic in it
and that's what they're putting out, I can only imagine what the real number even is
the non-detect thing is a phony baloney
is that the water company will add something with arsenic
and then when your water report comes it says non-detect level
well because they diluted it with 180,000 gallons of water that didn't have much
arsenic in it, of course it doesn't detect it because they're using 1950's
technology looking for something that's in the water
91% I think in the Waterworks magazine
it said 91% of the arsenic
added to public water supplies comes from one source
hydrofluic acid, 91% so you could reduce
bladder and lung cancer rates and arsenic rates
in our society by simply refusing to use contaminated products
in the water supply and again I just want to stress to everyone
this is not a conspiracy, literally on their own website
it says that it contains arsenic, cadmium, lead, mercury
barium and this is from the NSF
it has another list on the NSF
so NSF and the AWWA both list all these heavy metals
in this product hydrofluic acid
which Penco sent me to this link to look up
but it says right here that it's safe
if you believe everything is written I'll send you a letter
and so Penco on their website says
community water fluoridation continues to be the most cost effective
safe means to provide protection from tooth decay in the community
spend all their time patting themselves on the back
and this is from Dallas
January 2012 when they put it in and it says
right here on the resolution it says that
a three year agreement for the purchase of hydrofluic acid
from Penco because they were the lowest bidder
they did bids from Mosaic
Key Chemical, Burrs, B-U-R-E-S have you ever heard of them?
No. There's so many different companies now
one of the things they're using so much of this stuff up
other countries are getting into the deal
in California the Metropolitan Water District buys their hydrofluic acid
from China which I filmed
a documentary back in 2000
the Chinese take it out of their water
so obviously they're not going to allow some industry to put it back in
Mexico, Japan
none of those countries allow it in their water supply
so obviously the disposal technique is not
working in those countries so they basically use our water supply
to dispose of their hazardous waste
and this is not even made up because if you go to Google
just go to Google and type in
and you hit shopping on the tab
you can buy it but if you're a chemical company
list all those things and they all say China
almost 9 out of 10 of them say they're shipped directly from China
on these big cargo containers
I'll tell you a little bit about the containers
I had a friend that became quite wealthy
not the truck body but the tanks that carry silicofluoride
and he invented a new liner on the inside of the tank
that kept it from eating through the tank
they had used a 1 inch thick rubber bladder and that would have to be changed
every year and that he developed a new technique
using a fluoride epoxy resin
that sealed up the tank better and kept it from eating a hole in the tank
because this stuff is corrosive
it'll eat anything
so what's wrong about the claim that they have a pure product
is that if you have a spill like they did up in Utah
and the first responders show up or it runs off, ate a hole in the concrete
berm and went into the river
and they said it'll just completely turn into fluoride and sand
well no, it's not just fluoride and sand
it's arsenic, lead, barium, you've listed them for us again and again
so if you're a first responder and you show up and you don't know
what you're actually dealing with, you can be injured on that
so they need to be truthful and honest and that's why I say we need transparency
and compliance with all laws, not just let's put it in the water for the kiddies
but let's comply with all the laws
if you have a policy standard, then you should comply with that
you should submit the toxicological data on all the ingredients
you should truthfully list the ingredients and that's what they haven't done
and they don't want to do it
just wave their arm and say it's the best thing since sliced bread
and let you worry about it, oh you must be some kind of conspiracy theorist
it's a policy, it's a policy that helps industry
yes, and Mosaic
which is another huge company that Penco
probably got their supply from
they released an MSDS sheet of hydrofluicic acid
on this MSDS sheet says health hazards
corrosive to the skin, eyes and mucous membranes
may cause severe irritation and burns which may not be immediately apparent
this stuff doesn't affect you right away, especially in smaller doses
and like you said many times, it builds up in your bones
it creates all these health effects that don't happen
for years, right?
chronic low-dose exposure is different than high-dose exposure
one of my documentaries was the Secret Story of Fluoride
we had workers that were at Alcoa
basically their shoulders got so poisoned before it, if you said stick up your hands
you could get it like this, that's all the higher, their shoulders let their arms go
another worker at a water
treatment plant spliced a half a cup on his leather apron
he had nitrogloves, safety glasses, leather apron and a long sleeve
shirt and a half a cup spritz out of a broken pump
and spritz him a little bit, not much, but anyway
a car was broken in this room, had to go to the other room, showered up
and he got to feeling poorly on the way home, if he hadn't turned into the hospital, he'd have died
they forgot to tell you that the stuff is a deadly poison, doesn't burn you
but it seeps right through your skin, it ruined his joints, he's got crippled to this day
but he didn't know that, he's the guy putting it in the water
yeah, well it says on this MSDS sheet
it says, potential health effects include for the eye, corrosive
skin, corrosive, inhaling, corrosive, ingestion, corrosive
harmful or fatal if swallowed
I mean, but this is the MSDS sheet
that Mosaic, one of the lead manufacturers of this
hydrophylic acid gives with their product to these water companies
and they still put it in the water, it's crazy
it says, other comments right here it says, prolonged or repeated
overexposure to fluoride components may cause
osculosclerosis, if exposure occurs
during enamel formation, and this is speaking
to babies, so this is not to the worker that's dealing with it
this is speaking about what the health effects are to the babies
it says, and by multidiscoloration
of the enamel of teeth, if exposure occurs during enamel formation
but, you know, the advocates, and I said there was an army of people
out promoting this, the advocates, the Center for Disease
Control, admit that 41% of the children have dental
fluorosis, so 41% of the children, and how do they get the number
they average the kids from the non-fluorinated communities with the ones
in the fluoridated communities, but they've been so effective in getting all the major
cities to put fluoride in their water supply, that the number of kids with
dental fluorosis has gone steadily up since they began this program in 1945
went from less than 1%, now it's up to 41%
and that's the way they calculate it, it's actually much higher than that
you have to have two teeth damaged before you even get on the list
and then they say, oh, well if one is really, really terrible
and one is just kinda bad, we're gonna call it the kinda bad
the lesser of the two evils, I mean, you know
it's a little phony way to classify dental fluorosis, how did it happen?
The baby swallowed a poison that caused
the enzyme, the metalloprotein
removing enzyme
to be inhibited, well, what is that
enzyme supposed to do? Well, it's involved in everything
from fetal development to tooth development
to cancer metastasis, arthritis
it is a very important enzyme in the human body, and so having some
idiot put chemicals in the water that inhibit your child's ability
to grow and develop normally, dooms that child
to have a funny looking spot of teeth, well that's not the only
problem, they end up with the principle
symptom of fluoride overdose is pain
pain in the lower back, pain in the joints, pain in the neck
and so what I'm trying to be is
very clear, it's not a chemical that's a benefit to the human body
Yeah, and it's a chemical, it's not
is there any test, I mean, because they're saying it prevents tooth decay, is there
any test that has shown that it actually does
prevent tooth decay? None if it's swallowed, is it
Even the advocates admit now that, or claim now, they
used to claim you had to swallow it and had to get an enamel and all that stuff
and the research after 50 years has proven that that was not true
and what they say is just a little tiny bit of data can ruin a perfectly good theory
Well, some dentists are still claiming that, but the Center for Disease
Control and the Journal of the American Dental Association have published articles
repeatedly saying that the mechanism of action is that the fluoride
inhibits the germs that live on your teeth in the high levels, and it's got to be in the
saliva, not the enamel, doesn't make any difference how much you got in your enamel, doesn't make any difference how much
you got in your tooth in terms of tooth decay, it makes a lot of difference in terms of the brittleness
of the tooth, ever have a tooth break? Well, the more fluoride you put
in bones or teeth, the more brittle they become
so they end up breaking, so they never want to include the cost of broken bones
and broken teeth in the alleged benefit, because the only
thing that you can show is that there is a little bit slight reduction from
topical application, well, yeah
so are other things that are applied topically reduce tooth decay too? Uh huh
are they safer? Uh huh, so why don't we use the safer ones
well there's no way you can patent the safer ones because of natural
ingredients and so if you want to reduce tooth decay, get iodine
you know, iodine, ozone, all these things that kill germs
are much more effective than the one that just makes the germs sick
it doesn't even kill the germs effectively, so if you have
a cut on your hand and you go to the hospital
what do they paint it with, do they paint it with fluoride? No, that'll kill you
they paint it with iodine because that kills the germs and stops it from being infected
much more effective way, dentistry does not understand
tooth decay is a dietary infection
it means that you eat candy or sugar or white flour
that grows up a bug on your teeth that lets it be infected
you can starve that bug to death, if you don't eat any sugar at all
that bug will not grow and you won't have a cavity one, go to the museum
look at any of the native americans, they had no tooth decay
until of course we got here and showed them how to grow sugar
yeah, I'm going to send you
kind of my summary of the city ordinance
that was passed in Santa Cruz a number of years ago
and I'm going to test you
and see if you can see what word it does not contain
what word it does not contain?
very good
it says nothing can be added to the public drinking water for the purpose of medicating the population
that has not first been approved by the food and drug administration for the full range
of dosages that the recipients may experience
and furthermore the actual substance may not contain contaminants
that exceed the public health goals, the actual substance, they forgot the hydrofluic acid
they didn't name the substance
yeah they didn't name the substance, and the reason is because
then it becomes the other side's responsibility to name the substance
yeah, because hydrofluic acid doesn't sound nice
it doesn't have a pretty ring to it
and it's always contaminated with something, and the FDA has never approved any fluoride containing substance
intended to be ingested to prevent tooth decay
and the infant receives a dose that's far greater
than the dose that the EPA knows to cause harm, so there's three things in there
that would prohibit fluoridation, but it doesn't have the word fluoride
and that was intentional, so that makes the other side
carry the message, our fluoride is the good kind of fluoride that only harms the baby
a little bit, and then we'll tell the baby to drink bottled water
Dr. Kennedy, I have to let you go, is there anything else you want to leave
with the people, maybe give us
some encouragement? Yes, you have to fight every day
for the freedoms in this country, they're not free, if you don't fight for them
they will be taken away from you, instantly
thank you doctor, I really appreciate your time here today, have a good one
bye-bye