cameras are rolling all right make sure you time on them and everything oh man
sorry yeah that that hurt all right here we go
welcome to the rod of iron podcast fundamental Baptist breaking down
discussions dogma and daily events I'm your host pastor Bruce me here here from
first works Baptist Church in beautiful Southern California Anaheim Hills this
is season 3 and we got a special guest with us for this season
pastor Stephen L Anderson from faith forward Baptist Church in Tempe Arizona
is with us for this episode how you doing pastor I'm doing great man thanks
for having me out you excited to be here yep it's a blessing pastor Anderson is
not only my sending pastor but he's also a very good friend of mine he's my
mentor and I'm looking forward to our discussion this episode we're gonna talk
about just a couple different things and the truth is we might not even hit on
all these subjects but for sure we're gonna talk about a little bit about
exercise health maybe some time management shoot the breeze a little bit
and so looking forward to a really exciting episode all right folks you
ready pastor Anderson let's do it here we go done done it and done it and done
it on and on
they were just roasting me about landmarks like yeah the whole time well
I'm I'm gonna try to like revive landmarks not not that I'm making any
new ones I'm saying like I'm gonna try to repromote our season of you know the
trailer where it looks like an action movie well I'm just gonna like change
the thumbnail and then they click on its landmarks bump it up on the on the
upload little section there and see if that helps because we got a ton of new
subscribers I have a video that went viral right now it has like a hundred
and fifty thousand views on on what channel on them our channel on YouTube
though on YouTube oh wow and it's a it's a short so I've been doing shorts about
it's about crosses should Christians use crosses and so that one has 150,000
wow that's great and then I put out another short called our Catholic saved
that one has 50,000 views yeah we have that one and then I have a couple videos
that that like there's one aliens in the Bible and no one has like 30,000
views the shorts are definitely doing a lot better than just regular clip to
flight the armies of the aliens yeah well not that I know so um you've been
preaching through the book of Ezekiel on Wednesdays how's that been going yeah
it's been going good I mean it's going through the major prophets like Isaiah
Jeremiah Ezekiel is a little bit tough just because there's so much repetition
yeah you know it's like God is just hammering the same points over and over
again which it's all great stuff but just you know stretching it out over the
course of like 48 weeks is obviously a challenge but I think Ezekiel has some
of the hardest preaching of any book of the Bible just the most face-ripping
ist chapters yeah so I've liked that you know it's been it's been a pleasure you
know preaching through some of the hard things in Ezekiel so and it could get a
little redundant right so that's what you're talking about stretching it out
yeah just because a lot of chapters will repeat material from earlier chapters
yeah it was the same way when I went through Isaiah and Jeremiah just a lot
of repetition I feel like the the prophet Ezekiel obviously he's he's the
one who rips the most you say you said you feel like he rips the most but he's
also I feel like he's the one that God I don't know if this is the right way to
say it but he's like the most hard on it you know I mean like he yeah he takes
away the desire from his eyes and then he gets up and preaches the next day and
well the other thing that's interesting about that is that even though the
hardest preaching of any of the prophets is pretty much found in the book of
Ezekiel it's not really coming from Ezekiel because it's it's the Lord
telling him yeah because the Bible says like the word of the Lord came unto
Ezekiel sang mm-hmm and it's actually God speaking directly to Ezekiel and he
actually speaks more directly to Ezekiel than he did with Isaiah and Jeremiah
actually like appears to him yeah with the cherry beams and the wheels and the
fire and everything and speaks this stuff to Ezekiel and whenever Ezekiel
actually speaks on his own from his own heart he's usually trying to tone God
down and saying like you know man God are you gonna kill everybody like
what's going on you know he's he's actually a more gentle person and God
has to keep telling Ezekiel no these people are wicked they're evil they're
gonna be destroyed and it's Ezekiel who's actually a mellow guy and like you
said Ezekiel has to suffer a lot and he ends up going through a lot of painful
things that God puts him through so we think of Ezekiel as being this really
hard preacher and he was but simply just because he's preaching what God told
him to preach it's not really coming from his personality yeah you know what
I'm saying yeah yeah yeah you can turn his down on the headphones a little bit
he is pastor Anderson's a different there we go yeah I definitely agree I
always found it funny that you know a lot of people now I wouldn't say a lot
of people but sometimes people will criticize our style of preaching they'll
say it's too hard or you know we're a little too abrasive and I always point
them to the Old Testament prophets but specifically Ezekiel because they'll say
you know all you guys preach against everything is like well I didn't preach
against everything like Ezekiel preaching it Ezekiel preached against
the mountains he preached against the trees I mean he was prophesying against
the hills and just kind of you know passing judgment on everything nothing
was safe from Ezekiel's preaching well chapter 16 and chapter 23 are kind of
the classic face-ripping chapters in fact atheists will sometimes bring up
stuff from those chapters like can you believe what the Bible says it's so rude
it's so offensive it's so graphic yeah but it's the Word of God yeah amen and
the words of the Lord are pure words amen so I'm sure you've enjoyed
preaching through Ezekiel quite a bit yes going because obviously it's it's
the same truth that you've been preaching all along but it's obviously
from someone else's different perspective another prophets perspective
and just dealing with other issues that is the nation of Israel was experiencing
at that time well the thing that I love about the Wednesday night series in
general is that it gets me to preach stuff that I never would have preached
because throughout my ministry I've obviously turned to the famous passages
in Ezekiel a lot chapter 16 chapter 23 you know Ezekiel 22 30 you go down the
list I you know Ezekiel 28 with with Satan and everything and so going
through it chapter by chapter though you end up preaching some of the more
obscure passages yeah that you would never preach about but it's it's not
only that it gets me to preach about stuff that I wouldn't have necessarily
chosen but the other thing is that there are some really cool chapters but if you
just got up on a Sunday morning and started preaching them people would be
kind of like why are you preaching this like just because it's so wild of a
sermon yeah but like the Wednesday night sermon kind of gives you an excuse to
preach it like well I got to go through every chapter yeah so yeah right now
we're going through I'm going through first Samuel on Wednesday or not
Wednesday but Thursday evenings and I like for Samuel because you know
obviously some of the books in the Old Testament they can be very deep like if
you think of like the major prophets such as Zephaniah or Zechariah but then
you have books like first Samuel that can get a little deep but they're
palatable because they're just a lot of stories and people like stories yeah and
so that's what we're going through right now I'm gonna be preaching through first
and second Samuel obviously until the following year but you're right I mean
preaching through books of the Bible kind of helps us to just preach things
that we typically would never preach and I think I don't use notes on on
Thursday it's just because the notes are already there yeah you just really study
the chapter learn the chapter and they just get up and preach from the heart
yeah amen there's something else that I wanted to mention regard oh okay so you
got deleted again yeah my channel got deleted like two days ago so yeah I was
listening to your sermon from Sunday and then all of a sudden is like where is
it I can't find it so now the channel to go to just we could let everyone know
yeah right now it's it's the channel that's called Trump sucks yeah because
here's my rationale I figure like that the libtard sensors over at YouTube
they'll like start to delete the channel and they're like wait it's called Trump
sucks and then maybe they'll let it survive just because they hate Trump like
they're gonna be like that mean where the guys like sweating he doesn't know
which button to push like like delete Pastor Anderson is that gonna override
like their hatred for Trump yeah I want a Trump sucks channel to exist yeah so
you know I'm trying to be smart and go under the radar with that title let me
ask you what do you think obviously there might be someone literally
specific specifically designated to like oversee you I don't believe that you
don't think so no there's no way because because if they really wanted to they
could just eradicate me from YouTube in a matter of two hours or something
because you know they could be searching my name and searching and so but yet my
channels end up existing for months before they get deleted and then other
people mirror my stuff and exist for months if they had a fault if they had a
person designated to deal with it then they should be fired then what guys what
do you think what is causing like people to know or YouTube to find out who you
are what is it about them is it just the name on the title no people just are
reporting it as inappropriate oh I see yeah okay it's human beings viewers
reporting it as inappropriate which people have always reported my stuff
every day for the past 10 years yeah whatever or 15 years I guess I've been
on YouTube but it's just that in the olden days people would be like I'm
reporting this is inappropriate but YouTube wouldn't delete it because they
just weren't that strict back then whereas now they're just way more
strict and now I'm personally not allowed to have a YouTube channel yeah
and so when people complain then it's like oh this guy and then they delete it
I always thought that maybe it was like your name in the title or something like
that that was causing you to know because I was gonna propose the idea I
was like maybe you should change your name maybe you should like change your
name completely so that the artist formerly known as Steven Anderson just
turn your name into a symbol you know to me yeah exactly or just be like pastor
Lee call you pastor Lee instead I am Lee oh I mean there there are a lot of
channels that are out there though that have your content even from Sunday like
people are constantly uploading your stuff oh yeah so that's good still and
you know my day to day day in day out sermons they they still get just as many
views or just as many people listen to them it's just divided over a bunch of
channels or you know people listening to them well even if you have only like a
thousand subscribers let's say you reach a thousand you still get like five
thousand six thousand views yeah it's just that I can't go viral like I used
to so none of my sermons can go viral because as soon as they you can go viral
and you have gone right it's just not on YouTube it's just not on YouTube it's
long tick tock and yeah because because on YouTube as soon as a video of mine
starts to gain momentum they'll shut it down because somebody will report it and
it'll get shut down because if I if I remember correctly there's a guy he
he's actually in Texas now but his name is Oscar ot the Baptist I think that's
his profile name he had a clip of yours and I think it had a million views or
something like that and so that's pretty cool and then you have another video on
tik-tok right now that's going viral right you kicking out the guy who's
asking you to read a prayer or whatever it may be I'm not I don't upload stuff
to it but other people did well I I tried it for a couple weeks cuz somebody's
like because I didn't really know what it was and somebody's like oh you got to
get on tik-tok and upload stuff I uploaded some videos and and they went
kind of crazy but it's just it's such a weird website I decided well the reason
I only use the the I only edit videos on there and I don't go because other
people have asked me that like why don't you just post on there but I just
haven't really desired to post anything on tik-tok I know it's the algorithm of
the app the only thing that would motivate me to do that would be the fact
that the algorithm is just really sensitive there and you can so it goes
as far as algorithm is concerned it's like tik-tok you can go crazy viral
really easily but then you can get deleted really easily as well and then
it's Instagram which you can post the real on Instagram and literally get like
a thousand views in a matter of minutes and then it's YouTube shorts but the
thing is I feel like YouTube has the bigger platform office so where does
spoon does not fall in any of those categories spoon if anybody doesn't know
spoon was a app that pastor Anderson and I were on for probably a couple of
weeks and it was just an audio app there's no video to it I loved it I
thought it was great it's literally kind of like a podcast type of an app for
anybody they can put music or just talk or you know just talking about random
stuff and pastor Anderson was on it and he you got people saved on spoon it was
it was good and then I got on there and man we were killing it on spoon and then
you know we started saying the f-word and all this stuff and then that's when
the spoon rulers deleted us yep you could actually upload mp3s of sermons on
there as well oh yeah I remember that I was kind of considering trying spoon
again under a different alias or something like that just cuz you know
just try different platforms you know I think about that a lot do you really
about food days going back to spoon I thought it was great yeah I probably
will upload some stuff to tik-tok just because I heard it's the algorithm is
really sensitive and there's like a lot of false prophets on it on tik-tok as
well weird guys really yeah and this will carry over into what we're gonna
talk about next but there's a guy his name is his profile name is Gary the
prophet okay and he he has like millions of followers and all that but
he uploads all these videos about doctrine and obviously this guy's not
saved he has a repent of your sins type gospel and then he preaches just a lot
of weird stuff but people love him they love him because he he sounds like he
knows what he's talking about he goes back to the Greek and all that but he
uploaded this video about exercise and he's and he's talking about how you know
how it's wrong for Christians to lift weights because you should never lift
weights as Christians that's vain and the Greek word for for Jim and all this
stuff is just talking about being naked what in the world is crazy things just
nonsense but it's unfortunate because he does have a lot of followers so you know
people I'm sure listen to yeah I mean the only reason why the the word for
naked in Greek is you knows which is obviously where we get our word like Jim
gymnasium is just because the Greeks worked out naked yeah the dudes did yeah
not the women but the men would exercise naked yeah that's what he was bringing
up it's not the problem with the exercise yes the problem with public
nudity well the same guy came out a couple weeks ago and apparently he's in
the UK or something and he just said like I just want to let everyone know
that I am officially anointed and God has anointed me and here's the proof of
it I walked and created diamonds so he shows he's like zirconias or whatever
and he's saying that when he walks he creates diamonds with his feet now and
now he's selling them and people are like what in the world Gary what's wrong
with you you know and so he just went full-blown heretic at that point but I
thought that was really stupid about that video regarding exercise and
lifting weights because you know the Bible doesn't say that lifting weights
is bad or the exercise is bad on the contrary it's actually for taking care
of your body and your health right well yeah I mean the verse that I would point
to verse that's been on my mind over the last couple days is 3rd John verse 2 it
says beloved I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in
health even as thy soul prosper right so he says I wish above all things that you
would prosper and be in health even as thy soul prosper so you know you're
doing well spiritually you're thriving spiritually but he says I also want you
to be healthy yeah to be in good health and so you know obviously everybody will
point to this verse bodily exercise profit a little exercise thyself rather
unto godliness but obviously godliness is more important rather is a comparison
like if you have to choose between training your body and training the
spirit obviously you're gonna go with the spirit yeah if I have to skip my
Bible reading or skip a workout I'm gonna skip the workout yeah because I
need to exercise myself rather unto godliness but to take that one verse and
then just ignore everything else that the Bible is teaching I mean that's just
a horrible way to interpret the Bible to it says you know bodily exercise
profited little yeah so the the what it's implying is that it does profit
just not as much as exercising yourself rather into godliness it's a comparison
you know that's all obviously we're not gonna get any rewards in heaven for
gains made in the gym or athletic achievements but yet if you actually
study the Bible start to finish all the great men of God in the Bible are
athletic mm-hmm if you study the Bible like go back all the way to Genesis
right and you've got Israel himself and one of the things that he does right
away is he removes the stone from the wells mouth he deadlift the stone
exactly he was doing earth gym and basically you know usually all the
shepherds would come together to lift the stone he lifts the stone off the
well himself and then the same guy later on wrestles with the angel all
night yeah and so that shows not only incredible strength but incredible
endurance and one of the attributes that Jacob was known for is that he was a
hard worker that's why laban keeps wanting to keep him around and doesn't
want to let him leave because he's such a good worker okay and so obviously back
then they're not going to the gym and they didn't have the same type of
exercise programs that we have today but that's because they worked hard physical
jobs if you were a hard worker you got strong you got endurance and so men of
God throughout the Bible were athletic in that way and then you know you look
at other men even just like Moses and and look at him just hiking across the
desert these incredible distances think about the Prophet Elijah he outran the
chariot in the in the story where you know right after he faces off with the
prophets of Baal and he ends up outrunning a habs chariot and I looked
up on a map that distance is like 22 miles hmm so he runs 22 miles and out
runs the chariot so here's a man of God in the Bible run in 22 miles you know
faster than the horses can pull the chariot yeah and then you think about
men like David I mean David's out there fighting all these military well how
about David's mighty men who the Bible compares to having calves like Heinz
feet yeah it talks about how they run like a row yeah just talking about
comparing their they're running to or the speed of their running to like an
animal you know right or so or Solomon in the in the book of Song of Solomon
it talks about him leaping on the mountains skipping on the hills you
running like a row or a young heart so we have all these guys in the Bible
they're running they're strong they're physically active and it was really just
from their lifestyle they didn't need to go to the gym because they're outside
they're going everywhere on foot there aren't any cars and you might think that
people rode horses but back then very few people rode horses throughout
history because just like today how many people do you know that have a horse
now not that many and the reason why people don't have the horses right now
is the same reason why they didn't have them back then is because they're
expensive and take a lot of work to take care of so your average Joe did not have
a horse throughout history Jesus and his disciples never are riding horses while
they're on this earth I mean obviously he's gonna come back on a white horse
but when they're on this earth they're on foot and they're going to all the
villages all the towns obviously that took a certain level of fitness for
Jesus to go up into a mountain and pray and then they walk over to this village
and then they go to this city and they're they're just crossing and I was
real on foot it's it was a different world back then and that's why we have
gyms today and obviously you can you can run today and you can walk today you can
do all those things but as far as like the strength is concerned you know we're
not lifting a stone off a well's mouth you know but so how do we compensate for
that because now like the jobs that we have today not all of them but some of
them require being at a desk working in front of a computer be most are not
physical most are not physical most and majority yeah you have to be at a desk
you have to be in front of a computer I mean even somebody who's working in a
warehouse or something where it's a little bit physical but they're still
they're using a forklift I mean they have a lot of technology so we have to
compensate for that exactly and and go hit the gym and lift heavy weights and
actually put ourselves in a position where we purposely actually try to
become healthier physically and all that yeah and another example is Elisha where
when Elijah finds Elisha Elisha is plowing yeah like he's yoked up with an
ox plowing and and so back then you know just your daily life as a man you're
gonna be pulling a plow you're gonna be carrying big sacks of feed you have to
go draw water you have to chop wood yeah I mean these guys are working hard and
then even the women back then if you think about it they've got to wash
clothes by hand you know scrubbing them on a washboard or something they're
hauling water every day well I mean Isaac's future wife had to pull water
out of a well for all the animals right yeah I mean that's that's heavy lifting
pulling up all that water and for all the animal for all the camels and
whatever so now we have all this wonderful technology and I'm not I'm not
against the technology obviously the the airplanes and the cars allow us to go
soul-winning and do mission strips that we would never be able to do without
those things but the problem is that people allow those things to make their
life too easy too comfortable and then they get sedentary they get soft they
get weak and it is just so incredibly unhealthy you know to be sedentary you
know and so you know I think that unless you have a physical job you must exercise
to be healthy like if you don't have a physical job and you're not exercising
you're not gonna be healthy yeah don't be surprised when you're not healthy
because your body was designed for work well I heard that sitting is like the
new smoking yeah that's what I that's what they say yeah and our bodies are
designed to work hard and when you just sit around all day every day and then
you go to your job and you're just standing there all day yeah or sitting
there all day even because some people just say oh I'm on my feet but being on
your feet is still not necessarily exercise you know you might get really
good at standing you're not exerting your body you're not getting out of
breath you're not doing cardio I remember extreme when I was 17 all the
way up until I was about 21 I really got into martial arts and I'm pretty sure
it's the same with you I got into Muay Thai kickboxing and Brazilian jiu-jitsu
and it was a lot of fun and I really liked it I mean it was it was a great
workout for me but just in general is good for my body was good for my mind
and it kept me busy as a young man you know just kind of dispersing my energy
into different areas where I so I don't get in trouble anywhere else yeah I mean
so it's really good for me and even guys in our church there they they do a lot
of martial arts but then afterwards I stopped doing that I got back into Muay
Thai when I was about 30 or 31 and then I stopped but now I'm on this power
lifting kick right now and I really like it like you asked me about a year ago I
would have not been into it at all for me it's just like I'm not really into
that that's not my thing I probably do Muay Thai kickboxing again and the
brother Ulysses he he's been doing it for a couple years there's a lot of guys
in our church who have done it for a couple years they're really strong and
one day I think we're just at the building and he's like why don't you
just sign up let's just go and I'm like all right let's just go so we went we
signed up and I think when we started actually lifting heavy you know I got
those endorphins and I got a little addicted to it yeah oh yeah it's very
addictive but it's a good addiction oh yeah yeah it's it's a healthy high yeah
and basically it's a way to keep your mind at an even keel because people are
so depressed right now like people are more depressed than ever they're sad
they're down and part of it is because they're sedentary yeah getting out and
physically working hard actually releases endorphins and so you know we
often think of exercise as being good for our physical health but it's also
critical for your mental health absolutely I agree with that 100% because
being a pastor is actually very stressful oh yeah it's just not only is
it stressful it's just an unhealthy lifestyle all the way around yeah and
that's why so many pastors are super unhealthy super out of shape because you
here's the thing you're working hard as a pastor but it's not physical right
you're working hard mentally and not just mentally spiritually you feel
drained spiritually like other than the aerobics class on on the midweek service
in the Sunday morning Sunday night right but like but like like Jesus said I feel
that virtue has gone out of me yeah and that's how I feel after I preach a
sermon or after I go soul winning you feel like virtue has gone out of you so
mentally drained you're spiritually drained and you just feel tired yeah
from working hard because you are working hard but it's not physical at
all so you combine that with sometimes traveling and when you're traveling you
can't really necessarily eat the nutritious foods that your wife would
normally serve you at home yeah so you're eating at restaurants which is
not as healthy and then you know maybe you're getting together with people for
lunch or dinner as part of your job just meeting with people and you know
you combine all this the the stress the persecution the the hard mental work
with little physical work because you know much study is a weariness of the
flesh you know yeah the soul winning the preaching all of it and it's just a
recipe for for having just horrible health oh yeah and so as a pastor you
have to make a point to eat healthy get enough sleep and exercise well I agree
with that because you know I love pastoring I love preaching God's Word I
love dealing with people and doing the ministry serving the Lord but it is
taxing and it was taxing on my mental health where I kind of felt you know a
couple about a year ago as though my mood was just not as as good yeah and
maybe I was a little short you know my stress levels were really high and I
definitely see a big difference now because you know obviously we're mind
body and spirit and we could be exercising the spirit constantly which
what we do we read the Bible we go so when we go to church we talk about the
things of God but the truth is is that we are mind body and spirit and so each
of those factors play a role into our overall health not just spiritual but
even physical yeah so if you're if you're excelling spiritually but your
body is is atrophying and you're not doing well it's gonna affect your
spiritual life well it's a bad testimony to the church members right because you
know the church members they look to us for leadership and they want to follow
us as we follow Christ so that you know they shouldn't be following us to
McDonald's you know you know or following us to being obese or following
us to diabetes and following us to heart disease because we didn't take
care of our body and you know it's amazing how preachers they get up and
preach hard against smoking and taking drugs and doing all this stuff you know
mutilating the temple of the Holy Ghost with with all kinds of you know tattoos
and whatever but the point is that as Christians if we're supposed to take
care of the temple of the Holy Ghost how about eating healthy food and exercising
so that we can be in good health even as our soul prosperous right yeah cuz I
do remember in times past pastors would get up and rip on you know MMA or
martial arts or lifting weights because they said it was vain and vanity and
they would almost you know teach for doctrines the commandments of men in a
sense where it was just like almost borderline sinful doing those things
and meanwhile they're a hundred pounds overweight yeah or 50 pounds overweight
yeah they would they would I mean McDonald's was a big thing you know yeah
it's like when you go soul winning you stop at McDonald's yeah we've tried to
change that culture in the new IFB where we only serve nutritious food when we
have church picnics and barbecues and stuff we get organic food healthy food
you know we don't do anything artificial you know the way I look at it is what
food would I be buying for this event if Jesus were coming you know would I set
this before Jesus Christ because if I'm not gonna set it before Jesus Christ I'm
not gonna set it before the least of these my brethren yeah and so you know
let's say we serve ice cream or something we don't buy just the cheapest
because because a lot of times in the old IFB if there was ice cream served or
whatever it was just what's the cheapest giant Walmart chemical filled janky five
gallon tub of ice cream you know I would buy the most expensive quality ice
cream that I can buy if I'm serving it to God's people you know and ice cream
is not necessarily the healthiest food but I'm just using that as an example
that even if we did get something like that we still want to get the the
quality stuff yeah and not serve junk to people you know and when we get when we
have burgers or something we make sure it's the grass-fed you know the natural
stuff not just what's the cheapest why patty one thing I do remember especially
like in the old IFB is sports was like a god to them I shouldn't say like a god
but they would definitely idolize sports like basketball watching sports
watching sports yeah and so it was kind of funny that they would justify that
yeah but they would condemn everything else yeah they'll tell you bodily
exercise profit a little while sitting around watching yeah professional sports
and and let me just say right now like I have zero interest in professional
sports yeah me too I don't want to watch sports I and and I'm against professional
sports just I mean I'm not saying it's a sin if somebody watches it or it's a sin
if somebody you know becomes a professional athlete or something but me
personally philosophically I don't believe that sports should dominate
anyone's life you know you know for me sports are a part of my life exercise is
a part of my life but you know I think that some people like you said could
make it an idol where it becomes the most important thing in their life it's
it's the priorities priorities right it's like it's not wrong to go play
basketball it's not wrong to go play football and to get involved in these
sports but it has to have its place well put it this way I would love to see my
kids out there playing basketball playing football but I would not want to
see any of my kids become a professional athlete yeah because that's not what
life is about right yeah these things should assist us in serving God right
like the physical activities that we do like I enjoy powerlifting I really like
it a lot and I go five days a week now and I have goals I have weights that I
want to hit within the next six months I mean things that I want to achieve but
at the end of the day the reason I want to do it aside from the fact that it's
just fun and it's a good stress reliever is that it's really good on my mental
health which in turn assist me in serving God yeah and a lot of people
don't understand what you mean by that like with the mental health but here's
how I'd explain it because a lot of people think well you know working out
that's hard work that's pain that's suffering you know if I'm going for a
run or swim or lift or whatever but what it is is that when you're done you're
just in a great mood oh yeah like even if you're in pain and agony and misery
during the workout which lifting weights is not misery at all to me I
think lifting weights is easy I disagree but but there are some we could we could
agree to disagree but there are some workouts that are painful but when
they're done you're just in a good mood for the whole day that's what a lot of
people don't realize is that isn't it interesting that every time I go for a
long run every time I go swim laps or lift weights or whatever I'm just in a
great mood for the rest of the day inexplicably yeah but it's chemistry
yeah it's a chemical thing right that your body releases endorphins that make
you feel good well what's interesting is is obviously you know I read my Bible in
the morning and then I go to the gym and I prefer to go to the gym in the morning
because of the fact that once I come back to the office after I'm done
lifting weights my state of mind is so good that I'm really I get really
creative and my job requires a lot of ingenuity it requires creativity making
content and I feel like I can't be as creative if I don't hit the gym first
yep so then you know the blood is going I'm in the good mood I just hit some PR
I come back to the office and I'm just like boom idea after idea yeah so it's
almost you know dependent upon my physical well-being my mental
well-being so I hit the gym so I could be more effective in the job amen create
more content have more energy to do more yep and and you know just one last
point on this vanity issue like people saying that exercise is vain or
unprofitable or whatever here's the thing about that okay there's nothing
vain about being healthy this is not about you know posing and flexing we're
not talking about bodybuilding bodybuilding is a stupid sport it's
where your difference between bodybuilding and and heavy lifting but a
lot of people mix these two up yeah a lot of people mix up powerlifting and
bodybuilding right powerlifting you're going to the gym and just seeing how
much weight you can lift yeah bodybuilding you're putting on a speedo
you're waxing all the hair off your body and you're flexing in front of a mirror
with a with a fake tan or something yeah I mean that's obviously kind of queer
and weird and stuff you know what I mean like that's not what we're talking about
and and and here's the thing you know you can exercise and work out without
being prideful and having ego and just posing for a bunch of pictures you know
that's not what we're talking about we're just talking about being healthy
and I'm I'm just gonna come out and say it it is impossible to be healthy
without exercising yeah now if you have a physical job maybe that's your
exercise and that does it for you but if you have a sedentary job and you're
not exercising you're not gonna be healthy your heart rate is gonna be too
high you're gonna have heart disease you're gonna have all kinds of problems
your body's gonna atrophy and decay because you're not using it like our
bodies are meant to be used and abused like we need to push our bodies hard
because you know when you go to the gym you're basically you're tearing down
muscle you know when you lift heavy you're tearing down your body in a sense
and then your body goes in and rebuilds yeah so you're constantly tearing it
down rebuild it it's like if your body's a house you're constantly renovating it
yeah and anybody who owns a home knows that that at this first on the tip of my
tongue but I feel like I'm gonna misquote it but in Ecclesiastes where he
says you know through much idleness that the house droppeth through you know like
if you don't maintain the house it decays anybody who owns a home knows
that you have to keep doing maintenance on your house or everything just gets
old and the Bible refers to our bodies as a tabernacle as a house yeah and so
you go to the gym and you're you're you're tearing down muscle tissue you're
rebuilding it you're keeping it fresh well I think of the verse in the Bible
wait are these focused these are focused right I just thought about that these
like when you turn them on they were focused I think of the verse in the
Bible where it says where Paul said I keep under my body and bring it into
subjection let's by any means when I've preached to others I myself should be a
castaway and I think of the concept of discipline right and for example lifting
weights for me has caused me to be more disciplined in other areas because I
want to be successful at lifting weights because you don't build muscle going to
the gym you don't get stronger going to the gym it actually happens afterwards
it requires discipline after the gym eating and sleeping eating and sleeping
eating protein making sure you know you kind of stay away from the bad foods
cuz like I don't want to do because I want to mess up my gains you know I want
to make sure that I'm able to lift heavier the following week and if I do
this then then it's gonna cost me you know going for 315 or whatever you know
and then also it causes me to sleep right because of the fact that my body
is rebuilding itself during its sleep so doing powerlifting has caused me to be
more disciplined in these other areas which in turn obviously helps me
spiritually as well well and Paul is constantly using athletic athletic
examples you know they that are running in a race run all right I gave a bunch
of examples from the Old Testament of men of God and and and their their
physical feats but the Apostle Paul he talks about running with patience the
race that is set before us I thought a good fight he says lest you be wearied
and faint in your minds and he talks about keeping under your body bring it
into subjection you know he says look they athletes in this world they do it
to win a corruptible crown yeah but we an incorruptible because you know those
who know a little bit of history about the ancient Olympics in Greece know that
the prize for winning the Olympics was an olive leaf crown so it was literally
corruptible like it was literally not something that you could pull out years
later like a gold medal yeah you could pull out a gold medal 20 years later 50
years later it's still gonna be there whereas an olive leaf crown is gonna dry
up wither up and decay and that's what he's probably referring to when he says
you know they do it to win a corruptible crown that olive leaf crown that they
earn decays and with us away but we're earning an incorruptible crown but my
point is he's constantly using athletic illustrations and he says that they that
strive for the mastery must strive lawfully meaning you know not cheating
following the rules and you know he uses all these different illustrations about
how we need to be temperate in all things because athletes have to be
temperate in all things meaning they have to be temperate when it comes to
their diet and what does temper it mean it means basically you know self-control
right planning so they have to they have to think about what they eat they
have to get proper rest they have to take care of themselves and they have to
think about these things and spiritually we need to be temperate yeah well it's
interesting because he uses those examples like we're looking at first
Corinthians chapter 9 and the common denominator between the Apostle Paul and
an athlete is that they're both disciplined right they're both
disciplined to run in the race he says I fight but not as one that beat at the
air so fight I so it's like the common denominators they're both disciplined
they both temper it but at the end of the day Paul is gonna be the one who
actually receives the eternal reward because of it because he's doing it for
an eternal reason not for a temporal corruptible crown and you know at the
end of the day you know the Bible says though our outward man perish yet the
inward man is renewed day by day and so you know our our body will one day die
it's gonna decay and so you better make sure you get the most out of it as you
possibly can not so you can obtain a corruptible crown but rather so you can
use it to its fullest extent to serve the Lord as best as possible obviously
any athletic achievements that we have our woodhead stubble there's no question
about that they are not going to earn us any kind of eternal glory whatsoever
yeah but the reason that you have to have these athletic achievements or
goals you know whether that's just something as simple as you know I want
to run a mile in five minutes or I want to go to the gym and deadlift a certain
amount or I want to bench press a certain amount or I want to swim a
certain distance whatever those goals are the reason that those goals exist is
simply because they just give you something to strive for and it just
motivates you to actually show up and do the workout yeah because if you don't
have any goals if you're not logging anything if you're not writing down your
gains or anything you're gonna lose motivation and then you're just gonna
become a slob I think too it's just important to have goals and to achieve
things even if they're not necessarily spiritual it's just good to have a good
healthy hobby you know if I were to choose between you know having the
hobby of deadlifting 405 by the end of summer or you know you know reaching
this level on this video game I would want to do the powerlifting because it
actually has other benefits to it it's actually making you healthy it's making
me healthy able to serve God and at the end of the day you know that's a lot
cooler anyways you know a video game is not really yeah and let's let's face it
you know sometimes you go soul winning and and some people even struggled with
the walking yeah even to just walk for a few hours and then sometimes we've taken
people on small town soul winning trips and you know it's it's a real physical
challenge yeah not just a mental and spiritual challenge just getting through
the walking especially because in Arizona the small towns are all what do
hills what do you remember when we went to Aruba yeah there's a lot of wine you
had made the disclaimer we're gonna be doing a lot of walking yeah and I
remember being there and literally we just walked all day well you know the
going back to the Greek documentary yeah so I was wearing the Apple watch during
the making of your steps and when we were in Cyprus we walked an average of
nine miles every single day yeah nine miles that's what the watch said that we
were walking every day and then also we we did a a mission strip in Arizona it
was only four of us because we were hitting all the Indian tribes yeah you
know we only have a couple tribes left to finish now there's 21 reservations
and there's this one reservation where they live in the bottom of the Grand
Canyon okay so we wanted to do this reservation it has like 200 and some
people or something and so we just needed a small group of solar this is
only like 200 people live there and ended up being super receptive we got a
ton of people say it was awesome trip but I kid you not the four of us that
did it it was me my son John and a couple other guys from our church Sean
Conlon and Daniel writer the four of us went down there and it was 40 we were
only in there for 48 hours when we we slept in a tent and just camped out and
we walked 30 miles in 48 hours yeah because it was like 10 miles we had
because there's no way to get to this village by car there's no roads in or
out them the US Postal Service delivers there with donkeys it's the only town in
America Supai Arizona where the mail is delivered by donkey that's cool and
there are no motor vehicles in the town whatsoever so it took 10 miles to hike
in and then we're just walking around doing the soul winning yeah just walking
around walking around preaching the gospel talking to people that was
another 10 miles yeah and then 10 miles out it's 48 hours 30 miles you know now
that's kind of extreme but the thing about that is that you know you
obviously had to pick guys that could do that so you know Daniel Ryder was
able to be up to that challenge or Sean Conlon my son John they had the fitness
required like hey guys I need a few guys that are gonna be able to do this hike
so that we can do this soul winning and like I said we got a bunch of people
saved and those guys I know they had an awesome time I had an awesome time
because it was just fun to just hiking and so winning but they wouldn't have
got to go on that trip if they didn't have the fitness same thing with the
Aruba soul when yeah I remember and I remember thinking to myself because I
brought all kinds of equipment I brought like camera equipment to Aruba and I was
carrying that stuff on my head so I had a sowing stuff and literally by by the
end we were there for like five days if I remember correct yeah it was like a
week-long trip I think I had lost like maybe like 10 15 pounds or something by
that point because I was carrying all the sowing equipment as well as the
camera stuff and I was like wow this is a lot and it was hot it was physically
hard yeah it's physically hard it was extremely hot but you know it was good
though and and I mean we had on that trip I don't remember the exact stats
but I want to say we had about 50 60 soul winners I was a pretty big trip we
had people from the Netherlands yeah I remember that come out we sponsored
people from the Netherlands to come because a lot of people in Aruba Aruba
spoke Dutch and then we had people from Venezuela come we had obviously people
from the United States Canada and we had like 50 60 soldiers we like over I
think 475 500 salvations I don't remember the exact number but it was it
was a big success yeah that was an awesome trip and we didn't use any
vehicles we didn't rent cars yeah just walked ever even if you wanted to I
think the only time we actually used a vehicle is when we wanted to go to like
the south of the island to go swim or something like that it would just take
too long to walk and come back and get ready for everything because I think we
started so wanting like at 12 in the middle of the day right yeah yeah well
this is this is the thing we we did it to where the recreation happened in the
morning in the morning because of the fact that around 11 or 12 o'clock was
when the beach is kind of open for business yeah and then they became like
a party and it was kind of a bad atmosphere right for Christians so what
we did was we would all go to the beaches in the morning and there was
nobody there and so you could just enjoy nature swim play around at the
beach without anybody being around and then obviously soul winning isn't that
good before noon anyway usually the best soul winning takes place in the
afternoon evening so we gave everybody free time until noon and then we just
have lunch and then just spend the rest of the day soul winning and do it that
way because especially when you're in a place like Aruba like a lot of the
people are scantily clad and stuff whereas in the morning it was fine yeah
this is perfect and also just preaching the gospel is very strenuous oh yeah
just just and in Spanish like like for example that makes it even harder I speak
Spanish and I'm fluent in Spanish but I'm not as accustomed to preaching the
gospel in Spanish it's more tiring like over and over and over I literally
remember thinking myself like I'm actually tired of preaching the gospel
and in Aruba was mainly Spanish yeah I was mainly Spanish it was even though
that's not the official language they had about 30,000 illegal immigrants from
Venezuela in Aruba and they were the most receptive so even though they were
the minority since they were the receptive ones yeah that's who we ended
up doing that was all mentally straining to preach the gospel and then when we
went to Sonora right Mexico I think emo Reese is the same yeah it's just
mentally strained to priest you were my soul winning partner on that you remember
you remember the guy that we spoke to and I was I was giving the gospel to this guy
and I told him I said you know I was talking about lying and you know how is
the sin and I said you know and I don't know what is it I think this is what it
was you said like you know if a person lies oh yeah yeah what are they or
something what do you call them and when they're like somebody who lies and he
said a politician yeah we both started laughing it was pretty funny and then
you know cuz how many kids do you have pastor Anderson no my wife's pregnant
with number 12 12 at that time you had probably like 10 I don't know but I
remember we went to this house and we're talking to this guy and he had like 15
20 kids or something like that so pastor Anderson was given the illustration
about having kids in pastor Anderson's like you know I got 10 kids and if you
were to say that here whoa but the guy was just not impressed you just kind of
like wasn't even fazed yeah he wasn't even fazed but it was so funny that was
a cool trip well you know along with exercising and obviously eating right
I'm really big and I'm a big proponent of fasting you know I think fasting is
really good for you and in fact I actually fast for about maybe 15 hours
before I start lifting which is actually completely contrary to what people tell
you to do when you lift they'll say you have to eat like you know two hours
before and you have to have your protein shake and do all these things or
whatever and they say if you don't you're not gonna have a good lift and
you know you're not gonna feel as strong but I lift on a fasted state and in fact
after I'm done lifting I I still fast for about three or three more hours or
so and I feel strong and the reason I do it is because of the fact that after
when I fast after I lift you know fasting obviously put your body in a
state of autophagy and it begins to rebuild your damaged cells and all that
and so aside from the fact you know for example if you want to lose weight you
know lifting heavy is really good for you but then you add on top of that
fasting yeah and it's really good and just to give kind of the nuts and bolts
of this for people who don't really know how this works because I practice this
as well intermittent fasting yeah I usually do it about five days a week and
what this involves is simply skipping breakfast that's all because here's the
thing if you don't eat breakfast you're not really that hungry it's not even
that hard it's more of a mental thing for a lot of people it but skipping
dinner would be very difficult okay cuz you know you want to eat lunch you want
to eat dinner but when you first wake up in the morning you're not really that
hungry at least I'm not I mean I was when I was a kid but as an adult I don't
think a whole lot of people could say that I mean I'm not I'm personally don't
get hungry in the morning but I think a lot of people eat breakfast yeah but
it's way easier to skip breakfast than dinner we agree I would agree with so
here's what I do is I just wait 16 hours so let's say you know the last time that
I ate was at 8 p.m. or something then I just I'm not gonna eat to the next day
until noon yeah or if I you know if I stopped eating at 6 p.m. then I don't eat
till 10 a.m. or something so it's just 16 hours of not eating and it's really
just skipping breakfast so you just wake up drink a glass of water and just
push through until lunch and then just kind of look forward to lunch and just
get busy with other things and it's very biblical because you know the Bible
talks about Ecclesiastes you know woe unto thee O land like when you're when
your princes or children and I'm paraphrasing a little bit maybe but you
know your princes are children rise up and it says that they eat in the morning
yeah for what is it for pleasure not for snow he says he says they eat for the
good example is those who eat for strength and not for drunkenness
drunkenness correct that's the good example but the bad example are the ones
who eat in the morning so so the idea of skipping breakfast is biblical anyway
yeah and so I don't skip breakfast on Sundays because I find that if I skip
breakfast on Sundays then it affects my preaching just I I have to really have
those calories in me yeah otherwise I just end up preaching too much about
food anyway it's like my wife always says like oh I can tell you're hungry
during that sermon cuz you kept keep using food illustrations but like I find
that I don't preach as well if if I'm on a caloric deficit on Sundays so I eat
breakfast on Sundays and then I usually breakfast on Saturday simply because I'm
usually going on some kind of a long run or something so if I'm going on a
really long run then I need to get calories in me before that run yeah but
as far as lifting weights though lifting weights fasted is great and I and I'll
run fasted too I just can't go on a really long run fasted but I can do
short runs like sprints and stuff I can do those fasted lifting weights fasted
I'm for it that's great I I don't eat breakfast at all like I don't eat
breakfast for seven days yeah I do eat lunch and I do eat dinner but when I'm
cutting not dieting cutting the men don't diet we cut we cut wait cut wait
when I'm cutting I do I typically do Oh mad which is one meal a day and I'll
fill in Wow all my calories and my protein in that lunch period or whatever
it may be so I can cut weight and once I do that for about I do that sometimes
for about three months I find that I'm just not even hungry for dinner you know
yeah I've never I've never gone to that level yeah I'm kind of a big eater and
and I'll just be perfectly honest with you I tend to kind of struggle with
gluttony sometimes like I I tend to overindulge that's you know just to
confess my faults one to another I think we need to cut this podcast no but
seriously like I tend to overindulge like you've probably been with me
sometimes and seen me like overeat you know like when we got to eat I'll eat
all my food and I start eating food after Anderson has this thing that like
when we're on trips or something and we're hanging out I have to make sure
that I just eat all my food before he finishes his because he has no problem
with just coming to my plate and just eating my food well I I will finish
other people's plates yes you're correct and like like I literally when I go out
to eat with your family I'll finish my oh yeah and all your kids yeah he'll eat
my kids food actually so one time we went to uh well I hate I hate was it see
Lucille's went to Lucille's and you know my son he's a slow eater and Pastor
Anderson was done with his pulled pork sandwich and then he just goes to my
son he's like you're gonna finish that
you know well yeah I do I do know that you're a big eater well even when we
were at Island we would I think was that a grill hot dogs your daughter's
hot dog you broke off the front piece because you know you don't want to be
too crazy about it to be too unethical about it so he broke off the front piece
where she bit off and then he just ate her well you know we would say in modern
terms you're a foodie that's what we call it a foodie but even when we were
just in Arizona do you remember how some of my church members just coincidentally
showed up at the same fish restaurant as us yeah you want to go eat their
onion rings and then like they went they didn't finish their onion rings and I
went over just ate all the onion rings so two things about that number one is
that I like I don't like to see food go to waste like it really bothers me
that's part of the reason why I'm here the real reason but the real reason is
the real reason is that I just eat too much yeah you know I tend to over
indulge because I just like to eat yeah okay so for me the intermittent fasting
is an easy way to not overdo it because you know at least there's only so much I
can put down my gullet in those eight hours you know well I agree like for
example I like I like to eat yeah and intermittent fasting and Oh mad is
really good for me in that way because of the fact that when I do Oh mad and I
eat one meal a day it actually decreases my hunger to the point where I don't
want to eat and when I get on keto and I do and I couple that with intermittent
fasting the fat satiates my hunger so I'm actually not hungry and I'm not
thinking about food because you know you don't always want to live your life
thinking about food right you know I'm sometimes if I'm not careful I just
think about food like what am I gonna eat for lunch what I'm gonna eat for
dinner but when I do when I couple those two together I don't think about food at
all you know because I have a tendency to overeat as well and I could easily
justify it and say well I'm gonna go lift right now well I'm gonna fast but I
rather just not think about food and just kind of have the discipline of
thinking about other things and not be hungry and most of the time let's just
be honest it's our mouth that's more hungry than our stomach exactly yeah we
like to taste the food but you know for me another trick that I will sometimes
use besides the intermittent fasting is just like filling up all like fill up on
fruits and vegetables just to fill my stomach with that stuff and then that
way I'm not as hungry for eating the really high-calorie stuff you know what
I mean so every single day I'm just pounding apples oranges bananas okay so
you know on our way back from that trip that we recently did yeah pastor
Anderson was sitting behind me and it was me and pastor Brzezinski he and
pastor bizarrely we're just talking and I just hear pastor Anderson in the back
for like 40 minutes straight just killing oranges and then like kind of
like just turn to look at there's just orange stuff all over his hands he's
just going to town I'm like oranges you have back there that's but I eat a lot
of fruit the guy ate an orchard I just I'm just telling you but I I eat like
usually like probably two apples a day yeah you know oranges bananas pine
apples baby carrots I'll eat so many baby carrots because that's it fills you
up and like if I crave something sweet I just so when you say you fast you you
consume fruits and vegetables during your fast no no no okay the fasting the
fasting is only 16 hours yeah it's just it's basically just skipping breakfast
that's you're saying after your meals no I'm saying during my window of eating
yeah every day which is from lunch to dinner time during my window of eating
I pound a lot of fruits and vegetables so that I don't eat too much of the
wrong things yeah and you know there's there's certain things that are good
about my my habits is that like I never drink sodas like I only drink we're
ending this podcast like I you're not allowed to talk about this I virtually
never drink sodas or and I you don't drink coffee you don't do so I don't
even I rarely even drink so what's your unhealthy thing that you like to go
what's your go-to unhealthy thing the thing that is that cuz you're not
perfect pastor no I'm not the temptations for me yeah that that I
would go to is first of all cereal like like if I want to just really go off the
cliff like it'd be like Cinnamon Toast Crunch or just really just any cereal I
just like frosted mini wheats I could just kill so many frosted mini wheats
gross so like for me like the temptations are like milk and like if I
if I have my way I would drink two pints of milk with every meal like breakfast
lunch and dinner like I love milk but what a problem you drink raw milk or
yeah okay but the problem with milk is that you may grow there by so like milk
is great for a child growing up but as an adult I found that like you know if I
drink milk like I want to I'll just gain too much weight you know and it's
expensive anyway so I rarely drink milk but that's my guilty pleasure is like
chocolate milk strawberry milk milk cereal cereal I mean I go through
different phases obviously Cinnamon Toast Crunch is is pretty high on the
list but and frosted mini wheats because last Thursday these are good
right last Thursday I deadlift on Friday yeah and I was I was gonna shoot for a
PR like 320 on Friday and so I was eating right on Thursday I eat liver I
like to eat liver mm-hmm really good for you superfood and then I just told my
wife I was like I'm gonna go get a cereal and I don't eat cereal like I
haven't ate cereal in a long time yeah and so I was actually gonna go get
honey bunches of oats which is actually one of my favorites is my go-to but you
know you're walking down the aisle and then Cinnamon Toast Crunch was there
first yeah and I thought to myself just this once so I took the I killed the
whole box that night or not that night but I did like half of the box that
night but you know what my lift was really good on on Friday and in fact I
hit for PR it's called like a carbo load yeah yeah and then it was just like I
think I'm gonna celebrate with the bowl of cereal I didn't do that but Cinnamon
Toast Crunch is definitely really good but the only problem is with me if I eat
Cinnamon Toast Crunch I get like a sugar hangover the next day yeah well I I
don't eat it all the time because obviously I'm disciplined yeah but keep
under your body yeah but I'm just saying if I you asked me about my sins yeah you
know yeah I wanted to know what you struggle with what are the temptations
that are those are the temptations are like milk cereal ice cream stuff like
that oh okay okay so now he's mentioning ice cream so there's more actually yeah
we'll cut what's your favorite ice cream anything with chocolate and peanut
butter really yeah hmm so do like a chocolate peanut butter milkshake or
like but this podcast getting a little off track because we're supposed to be
like we're supposed to be helping people be healthier and now we're saying
a bad exam yeah but here's the thing we're showing that we're human we're
showing that we're human because we don't want to we don't want people to
think that this is how we always are right in general this is how we live but
all of us you know you bring up a great point and and I want to I want to make
this point too is that I do believe that it's healthy to have one meal per week
where you just basically go crazy just binge yeah no I do cuz I'll be very
austere the whole week yeah and then one meal per week I do believe and just
going for broke kind of like a reward type of a thing right well I think it's
I think that there's science behind it as well because what it does is it kind
of reboots your metabolism because if you're eating lean all the time then
your body kind of adjusts to that yeah whereas it kind of provides a nice shock
to the system when you have one indulgence per week now some people
talk about a cheat day that's too much because you can you can undo all the
progress that you made in the whole week in one cheat day but a cheat meal
there's only so much you can eat in one meal so if you just make one cheat meal
a week and then that could have a psychological boost of giving you a
chance once a week to kind of splurge or indulge and I think like you know
obviously it depends on what your goals are what do you want to achieve because
if you want it like for example I wanted to achieve a certain weight by November
and so I was very strict on my diet I didn't have a cheat day I didn't have
one day a week that I would eat crazy I was just very strict on my diet and then
I broke it when we went to Lucille's and I had that pulled pork sandwich and I
kind of splurged and then it was fine because the day after I just went back
on my regular diet and I was fine you know but I definitely agree with that
well you know we talk about goals we have our different athletic goals and
they keep us motivated they keep us going but if we don't hit the goals it's
not really the end of the world right because for me my biggest goal if I were
just articulate my biggest exercise or health goal is that I want to be
preaching when I'm in my 90s yeah you know if God allows me to for my days to
be long and for it to be well with me on the earth then you know I want to be
preaching in my 90s I want to be healthy and strong not just physically but
mentally so I want to work my brain I want to work my body that's the ultimate
goal is just longevity in the ministry yeah just being able to continue
ministering continue preaching continue soul wedding these other athletic goals
aren't really that important I'll give you an example you know one time several
years ago I was training to run a certain marathon and so I had this
marathon training plan and and the marathon training plan culminated in a
20-mile run and then if you finish that 20-mile training run and that whole
training week then you just have what's called the taper where for the next
three weeks you just run less and less and kind of let your body recover for
the marathon so I spent months and months training for this marathon I
finally got to that 20 mile final like capstone run and it went great like I
ran the 20 miles I felt great piece of cake and I got done with that
run and I was like man this marathons in the bag trainings done now I just
have to taper and I kid you not like four days later I injured my ankle and
just like couldn't run the marathon so it was like I did all the training and
didn't even do the event so it's like what a waste right except it's not a
waste because who really gives a rip if I ran that marathon or not it's vain it
doesn't really mean anything well to the training is what matters the Lord maybe
allowed that because he just wanted your body to be physically fit to be able to
serve him or something but not necessarily to have some athletic
achievement yeah so it's like basically I don't have any regrets about that
training because I got healthy in that training you know I got the
cardiovascular fitness well that's kind of scary and so God basically you know
it wasn't his will for whatever reason for me to run that marathon or have that
achievement but it doesn't mean I'm gonna stop trying yeah I still keep
trying stuff you know and and right now I've been running a lot with my son and
my son is training for a marathon and you know he and I god willing we're
hopefully gonna run an ultra marathon in March that we're training for and so
another thing is that this is allowed you know me to bond with my son yeah
over running and also my daughter one of my daughter's pretty into running and
you know for a dad to be able to bond with his teenage daughter is important
and sometimes there's a generation gap that could be there so some of these
activities could bridge that gap a little bit yeah so there's a social
aspect to you know exercising with people like I know you lift with people
yeah like I live by myself I do have a goal like I have a goal so I started
lifting in September of 2021 and right now I'm dead lifting 350 and my goal is
to hit 405 by the end of summer but I actually might do that a lot sooner and
so I do have that goal that I want to hit I'm hoping the Lord just you know
doesn't allow me to get injured so I can hit that give you the thorn in the flesh
so that you don't get prideful yeah you know what that you're joking but that's
true too though yeah because honestly like that's that I wondered if maybe
that's why you know a lot of times I've tried to have various athletic
achievements and they almost always fall through but I still do the training
yeah I still got healthy it might just be because God just doesn't want us to
get too prideful or full of ourselves and I think that's really important well
you don't get ego you mentioned with your kids and it is true because you
know a lot we have a lot of young men in our church very athletic very strong you
know we have power lifters we have people who like running we have people
who are into martial arts and so me lifting has created somewhat of a
camaraderie and so you're kind of bonding with young people in the church
ops yeah and you're bridging a generation gap yeah cuz there's a guy
in our church Giovanni he he's 17 years old the guys deadlift in a crazy emlo is
a 435 was like the last thing that he hit but there's a camaraderie with him
and I because we have this common interest we encourage each other and
then we even do like church lifts where you know some of the guys will meet up
at a gym on a specific date to hit PRS and they'll lift and their squad you
know and so creates that camaraderie and I think that's really good I think it's
that's better then you know just kind of all let's get together and play video
games or something like that you know I mean let's get together and actually
squad or some do some deadlift and obviously obviously we we're constantly
talking about the Bible yeah at church services anybody who's been to our
churches knows that the conversations revolve around the Word of God there's a
lot of soul winning a lot of missions going on you know but it's it can also
be nice to sometimes bond with people on another level yeah as well you know and
especially with your kids I mean I know your kids are pretty young yep my kids
are older you know I have adult children teenage children yeah and so some of
these are just good clean fun activities that I can get with them and compete
with them a little bit and you know sit show them that the old man can kind of
keep up a little bit or at least try to keep up well I just think I think it's
good for our churches to be characterized by people who take their
health into consideration and they're athletic there there are people who like
to run there's people who like to lift it's not just like a church where it's
just like well we only you know preach about the Bible and that's it you know
we don't everything else is is off you know off the the the shelf there we're
not allowed to do anything else it's like no we get into these things you
know and the reality is is that it's good for us as pastors is good for us as
church members to take into consideration that our health is
important in order to help us to serve God better in the coming years well and
the reason that the reason that I will sometimes talk about the subject from
the pulpit and the reason why I think this podcast is important talking about
it right now is simply because I love my church members yeah and I want them to
be happy I don't want to see them having a bunch of diseases that they
that are preventable I mean look diseases are gonna happen sicknesses
are gonna happen even if we do all the right things yeah but a lot of
sicknesses and diseases are preventable absolutely and if if we love our members
we don't want them being depressed sad sick heart disease diabetes you know we
don't want them suffering we want them to be blessed we want them to be happy
and so if we love our people and we know that this is something in our lives
that's making our quality of life way better it helps us serve God better it
helps us feel better we can get along with people better we can have a mental
even keel wouldn't we want to share that with other people and not just let them
keep eating junk and sitting around along with that worse I do want to
mention this is that I want to encourage young people to obviously you know start
exercising but I want to specifically encourage them to start lifting because
new lifters right and you would agree have an advantage over a lot of people
even if you're really small for example cuz then you know a lot of people say
some guys would say well I'm really small I'm not that strong but they
actually have a huge advantage and it's it it's it's it is a medical scientific
advantage of the fact that they have what's called newbie gains they're able
to make these large achievements with weights and actually get strong really
fast and in six months or in twelve months and it's really good for them it
can boost their confidence it makes their body healthier but just the newbie
gains just in general well if they're small and weak that's just all the more
reason why they need to lift anyway yeah but what is we should work on our
weaknesses absolutely but what I'm saying is they may think well what
difference is gonna make is I'm small no it'll make a huge difference a little
bit goes a long way yeah and I'm telling you the newbie gains you will
make a crazy amount of gains and strides and weightlifting if you just start now
even if you are a small person you know Ulysses you know what how much did you
weigh when you first started lifting 120 and you know right now you're about what
170 and you're you're lifting you're doing the big three the deadlifts bench
press and squats he's stronger than I am and so he can tell you from experience
that you know you can't you can achieve great goals like that and even if you're
a new lifter it's there research the newbie gains it can happen for you I
want to encourage people to do that and so you know obviously people just need
to find a form of exercise that they like yeah if you don't like it you're
not gonna stick with it so you know whatever you like whether it's running
swimming biking martial arts martial arts whatever but let me say this about
lifting because I'm big on lifting myself I like lifting here's what I like
about it and maybe this would encourage people a little bit and I I don't know
if you quite agree with me on this for some strange reason but you're wrong no
anyway the thing is I'm gonna say it's it's easy it's so easy like like
literally on the pain scale it's like a two out of ten it's so easy that like
even if I'm just exhausted tired having a bad day maybe even like coming down
with something and I'm just like I don't care how rotten I feel like going to the
gym and lifting weights for an hour is super easy yeah whereas like for me
running swimming is a little bit more strenuous a little more painful I mean
running is a lot higher on the pain scale yeah then and learn training yes
so like if I'm feeling really motivated then I can get out there and and do some
running and stuff but I have to be motivated to go running yeah lifting is
just like roll out of bed go live like lift it to me lifting is super easy and
so even if somebody says man I just don't really have a lot of mental
discipline or I just don't like to suffer I don't like to go through pain
to me like lifting weights the pain is so minimal it's so easy well it's minimal
if you're not lifting heavy weights no I'm no I think lifting heavy weights is
the easiest because I find it harder I find it more painful when you when you
do high reps no dude high reps hurt in my opinion well high reps are are I work
strenuous we're not when we talk about lifting heavy yeah I work in the four to
six rep range yeah that's the range and to me it's so easy it's like I can do
anything for four reps yeah that reps I would agree that's over so fast that's
definitely easy before the pain hits it so I would say when you start lifting
heavier though that is difficult that is hard it's very strenuous I feel like it
doesn't change because because I got stronger to copy for example like on
Friday I did four PRS of deadlifts and then and Monday actually when I did
squats after that I was just completely exhausted the following like it drained
my body and obviously it's obviously it's exhausting but I'm saying getting
down there I'll put it this way I never dread a lifting workout yeah I'm never
like oh man I gotta go to the gym and lift or something like well you're
never dread it but I do sometimes dread runs there are people that do dread it
though I'll just be honest I think you're just a different breed I can only
speak from my own experience yeah I agree with you on that because I never
dread going to the gym like I enjoy like I've never had a day where it's just
like oh man I gotta go to the gym today like I enjoyed every single but I mean
for for running for swimming sometimes I have to really psych myself up because
like it's hard cuz I'm just like this is gonna hurt you know what I mean like
like I have to really psych myself up whereas I don't have to psych myself up
to go to the gym some people do though some people do have to like lifting
weights is easy in my opinion psych there's some people that do have to
psych themselves up and get themselves motivated to go to the gym I'm not I
don't think it I don't think it matters how much you're lifting I think it's the
same difficulty because if you're doing four to six reps and you're going to
failure on every set you're both working just as hard if one guy's lifting you
know 150 pounds and other guys lifting 250 pounds if they're both doing four to
six reps to failure the pain is the same in my opinion yeah I mean as I've added
weight over the years onto the bar it doesn't hurt more I just I got stronger
and I'm lifting more weight but it's it feels the same to me I don't see what
the difference is I disagree but I know where you're coming from yeah okay I see
your point of view I get what you're saying and we're gonna cut this segment
well but and here's the thing I know you lifting weights is all you do yeah
whereas like I do a lot of cardio yeah yeah like I I do lift weights I'm for
lifting weights I try to lift weights I like I like long walks on the beach I
try to lift weights five days a week that's what I do on a on a good week
some weeks I only make it four well let me share something with you it's pretty
interesting Dr. Rita was actually saying because I was talking to her
about weightlifting and running and she she holds the opinion that from a
medical scientific perspective that you obviously have to do it all right like
now one's better than the other but she was saying there's certain people who
are more apt or will succeed more in endurance running than weightlifting and
vice versa and she was saying typically in her experience from what she's seen
people with type O blood are more conducive to running and I'm actually O
negative so yeah so that would make sense and she she gave me the science
behind but I don't remember exactly what it is there's a certain way your body's
built where it would it's more conducive to running and so that's your excuse why
you don't run well type A which I'm type A is that's a handy excuse yeah exactly
type A is actually able to lift heavier weights they're actually more conducive
to heavy lifting and so but she said you have to do both obviously but
there's yeah there's just one that you're gonna excel at far greater than
the other well I'm gonna use that to say I'm never gonna run in my life and but I
will I will say this though God made me in a way that I'm not the right I will
say this though if people's goal is weight loss because let's face it most
people are overweight in America 2022 America powerlifting is the way to go
the vast majority of people are overweight I would say that if you want
to exercise for weight loss then lifting heavy is the way to go a lot of
people don't get this yeah but like like I'll give you an example just this
morning I lifted of course before I came over here and I burned my watch said
that I burned 400 calories doing that lifting where's the if I get on my bike
and ride my bike hard for an hour I'm barely gonna be burned 400 calories if
I'm lucky if I get in the pool and swim for an hour I'm only gonna burn 400
calories and like I said lifting is way easier yeah and you still burn that 400
calories or whatever now running for an hour you know you'll burn more like
maybe six or seven hundred but it's way harder yeah so I would encourage people
and a lot of people by the way when they lift they they're not getting the most
bang for their buck because they focus on tiny muscle groups yeah you gotta do
compound they think like oh I gotta lose my belly so I'm gonna do sit-ups or
something yeah here's the thing your abs are a small muscle group and you can't
target what fat on your body you burn off you burn all the fat off equally
yeah so doing sit-ups doesn't burn stomach fat any more than doing squats
or whatever you want to use huge muscles because those are the ones that are
gonna give you the most bang for your body what he's referring to is the big
three well you you know you talk about the big three but you're leaving some
stuff out buddy because there should be a big five he's talking about the
overhead military press and pull-ups and pull-ups you're collecting at the end of
the day though you can get away with it with the big three those are the most
of the important ones the big three he's talking about are squats deadlift and
and bench press yeah which I agree with you about the the pull-ups and overhead
but the over it to me my favorite two exercises that I like better than even
those three is the overhead military press and pull-ups yeah it's cuz you're
not as strong on the deadlift you know you're gonna favor that you're gonna
favor that would you know of course I don't you're better I also don't use the
training wheels he's talking about my belt I don't use training wheels either
so but anyway but the thing is you know you want to use big muscle groups you're
gonna they're gonna burn more well your legs are the biggest muscle in the
course that your biggest muscles are your glutes which is your butt muscles
yeah and your quads yeah obviously your chest is a big muscle group your
hamstrings you know so that's what you shoulders back that's what you want to
focus on our big muscle groups and you'll burn tons of calories and by the
way a lot of people will say like oh I don't have time I don't have time to
work out but what it really is people are just wasting hours and hours of
their day watching TV on social media just surfing the net like not even do
anything productive on the net just just fooling around okay people are wasting a
lot of time let me just break it down to you okay let's just put it this way okay
let's say Monday through Friday average American eight-hour work day right eight
hours stop and think about it you got 24 hours in the day so let's say you sleep
for eight hours spend eight hours at work that's 16 hours right you could
spend two hours on personal devotions right just reading the Bible praying
singing hymns whatever you do for personal devotion you can spend two
hours on that then you can spend two hours of quality time with your family
yeah then you can spend two hours working out yeah and then you could
spend two hours on just your personal needs like say taking a shower brushing
your teeth eating breakfast eating lunch eating dinner whatever two hours time
with your family two hours of time with the Lord two hours of time working out
two hours of time you know on your personal needs and eight hours of sleep
and eight hours of work and you could do that five days a week let alone the
weekend you'd have even more time on the weekend like how do people say they
don't have time yeah or I think it's just a excuse not to go to the gym okay
well I work a 10-hour day at my job okay so you work a 10-hour day at your job
one hour of personal devotions and you think most Christians are spending an
hour personal devotions because they're not I wish they were but 10-hour work
day one hour personal devotion one hour exercise you still have two hours of
quality time with your family and you still have two hours to just do nothing
well even then they say even then they say don't don't don't lift you know more
than an hour and I never here's the thing I never lift more than an hour one
hour is my limit for living we go about hour 20 sometimes but the reason that I
say two hours yeah the reason I say two hours of exercise is because I actually
do cardio yeah as well unlike you yeah you know but here's I'm probably never
gonna go this this conversation will probably not inspire me to go run a
marathon but here's the thing though is that you know I will say this though in
your defense is that lifting weights does work your heart because you'll get
your heart rate up doing weight for sure so you know you're getting a little bit
of cardiovascular health from lifting as well yeah so I'm for it but but my point
is that you know I'm just breaking down a basic Monday through Friday showing
that people have time and then and then Saturday you can spend the whole day
doing whatever Sunday you're going to church doing whatever I'm saying you can
carve out the time and still sleep eight hours a night yeah and still have time
with your family every single day I don't think that's the issue though I
think the issue is when they say they don't have time to work out yeah it's
just a matter of they're either lazy but even just breaking down those numbers I
haven't even gotten into multitasking yet okay now let me tell you how I
multitask at the gym and I don't know exactly how you lift but when I lift I
take three minutes of break between each set yes that way I can hit the set the
hardest yeah and give it everything that's what I do so I give it every
basically for the working sets we take about three minutes yeah and then if we
hit a PR or something and let's say for example when I hit 340 on the deadlift
and I was gonna shoot for 350 I took like a five-minute yeah you take longer
just a little longer but no more than three minutes or on average so so when I
go to the gym to lift heavy weights the way that I do it is you know I do one
body part per day per week so I have chest day back day shoulder day leg day
arm day the only day I don't take three minutes is on arm day because I rotate
between triceps and biceps so I do like a circuit training on that day so I'm
only waiting like a minute and a half between sets or whatever but on the
other four days like I'll do three minute breaks between every working set
and during that three minutes I read my Bible yeah so that's like a that's a
devotional time for me and so you know I just I I'll usually get through at least
like you know three four chapters reading the Bible usually in another
language so it takes a little longer for me because I'm not reading it in English
so it slows me down a little bit so right now like my gym Bible is Portuguese
so like I go to the gym like this morning I lift the weights this morning
at the hotel yeah and I got I started in John chapter 11 and I got through
chapter 15 in Portuguese just between sets so I just I'll just lift heavy and
then you got three minutes to do nothing yeah while you're waiting and you know I
know you guys are probably talking and fellowshipping which is great but I'm
by myself when I lift yeah so I just read my Bible you're basically saying
you can kill two birds with one stone yeah and be productive in between so
heavy lifting a lot of people bring up their commute as like oh well you know
yeah eight hours of work but what about the commute okay but here's the thing
about the commute let me get you off you can listen to the Bible two options for
the commute okay number one if you drive on your commute then you listen to the
Bible and then that's your devotion time you could sing hymns you could pray you
could listen to the Bible on audio you can learn a new language you can do
Pimsleur but I'm saying like you can easily combine those two things but what
I would strongly encourage and I know this is not your thing so you get to me
out right now but basically what I would encourage is just quit driving to work
well you just get to work on your own energy whether that's walking if it's
close you could walk you could run if it's close or walk or you could ride a
bike or whatever so if you can get to work on your own steam I'm not against
what you're saying but the thing is the church from the or the gym and the
church or the building is like four cities away from yeah well then then
then for you it's an audio Bible yeah or whatever I'm just saying like you can do
things on your way there you can ever the commute never has to be wasted yeah
because either the commute can be a devotional time with the Lord it could
be an educational time where you're studying or it could be physical
training if there's a way and obviously some people don't have a shower at their
job you kind of need a shower yeah in order to do it that way but I you know I
would encourage people to just bike run walk whatever get to work on your own
steam if they have a shower yeah and then boom you just killed two birds with
one stone so I'm just saying like there's a way to work it in yeah
absolutely if you know it's the same reason people say they don't have time
to read their Bible yeah you can work in the Bible reading you can work in the
exercise no matter what your situation I think at the end of the day a lot of
people will make those excuses not because they don't have enough time but
because they don't want to make time or they're lazy to do it so they kind of
the easy way out is like well I can't work out I don't have enough time to go
work yeah I don't have enough time to do these things I think at the end of the
day is just laziness a lack of motivation or like oh I got to spend
time with my family yeah but here's the thing that sometimes you can involve
your family yeah you know if they're into it now if they're not into it I
will say this I will say this in order to start a workout regime whether that's
running or lifting weights you do have to have a level of commitment there has
to be a commitment when you have to program yeah and you have to have
commitment to those goals yeah like you have to kind of be a self-starter you
know what I mean like no one's gonna get you out of bed no one's gonna tell you
to go do it no one's gonna force you like you have to make yourself go do it
well good because it builds discipline I'm just saying you know you have to
basically be able to be disciplined and commit yourself to the process to the
program in order to reach those goals so here's that here's another point that I
want to make about health and and fitness and exercise and again you know
this might be something that you're not necessarily into why are you bringing up
whose podcast is this anyways is you know I'm a strong believer in what I
would call environmental training okay so what he's talking to the weather what
oh yeah yeah I thought you're gonna talk about Earth gym no no no I mean I like
that too yeah but no no I'm a strong believer in environmental training so
what I mean by that is that like I think that part of the reason why people are
unhealthy today is because we're too climate-controlled yeah and so our bodies
are designed not only to be physically active working hard but also our bodies
are designed to go through seasons of you know summer and winter so for those
of you who don't know pastor Anderson he's really into if if anybody knows
them personally it never stay at a hotel room with pastor Anderson in the dead of
summer of some other country because he will turn up the heater on so aside from
the fact that it's like 115 degrees outside he'll make sure that it's 115
degrees inside as well this is what he's talking well here's the thing like like
at my house in the summer you know I mean I will literally like set up my
office outside like I'll set up a table and a chair and just work outside for
hours I I'll exercise outside in the summer I'll go on bike rides I am
intrigued with that like I when you mentioned that to me yesterday because
you're basically saying you have to adapt to the the climate of that time
and obviously that's yeah that's difficult here in California no it isn't
in California because you still you you know you can modify you can modify your
environment have enough variation here this morning you know I looked at the
weather this morning when I woke up in Santa Ana California here it's 46
degrees outside yeah so if you go swimming in pools in Southern California
that water is gonna be in the 50s well and so you're gonna pull around here
like because the cold is more important than the heat like you guys have pools
over there we don't have yeah well I'm I'm for heat training but the cold is
even more important cold showers so what I do is like in the in the wintertime in
Arizona I think Arizona is more ideal for this than Southern California
because we have super hot summers so I can get out and run in the heat swim in
the air not swim in the heat but what was I gonna say bike in the heat like
run in the heat bike in the heat take walks need work outside I just make a
point to spend hours outside every day and just feel the heat and then in the
winter you know I'll basically go running in the mornings or at night and
just wear just very lightly dressed like I don't wear a lot of clothes so I'll
just wear like just a pair of shorts and a t-shirt and just go running and it's
like 35 or something yeah because the good thing about Arizona is that even
though in the winter it'll still be like 70 degrees every day even in the winter
at night it does drop into the 30s and 40s and so you can get up early in the
morning and you know I'll go on bike rides just with just maybe a light
hoodie if anything sometimes just a t-shirt just shorts and just really get
exposed to the cold for I basically just spend a few hours a day feeling cold
like I just want to feel cold a few hours a day all winter that's good and
then like I'll also go swimming in pools yeah even in the winter just year-round
so and then like you said cold showers in the winter as well so you know in the
summer I really acclimate to the heat and in the winter I really acclimate to
the cold and I'm telling you it has made me feel so much healthier like I've been
getting sick less because I I've had historically a really bad and what do
you think what do you think the the scientific reason for that is are the
cameras good well you know I don't necessarily base everything in my life
on science I know but I'm saying is there did you know of any research I
think science science is great and science has its place but science
science can't really solve everything necessarily and so a lot of my views on
health and nutrition and exercise are more philosophical than scientific and
so they're they're just kind of based on my own ideas and my own experiences
and today it's like oh yeah science you know and people are like they worship
science and science is great but let's face it science has kind of failed to
answer a lot of questions about our health if science is so great at health
then why in the age of science are people unhealthier than ever you know
so some of this is not necessarily science based it's just based on
philosophy and based on experience I think so for me let me give you my
philosophical answer and I think there are some scientific studies out there
that may or may not have backed this up but to be honest I don't really care
because if it works for me it works yeah if I started doing this environmental
training over the last few years and I've gotten sick way less I've been way
healthier I feel great is there anything else I changed other than the well not
I would say the biggest change I made in the year 2021 was I ramped up my
environmental training of just being hotter in the summer and colder in the
winter and I got sick less in 2021 than any year of my life and I'm just feeling
great and I feel like it really helped my immunity and I think there is some
science floating around out there somewhere about it but but here's my
philosophy my philosophy is that our bodies are designed to struggle you know
we're designed to handle the heat handle the cold to pick up heavy items you know
to walk all day to work all day you know we're designed to work like we talked
about with exercise we're also designed to withstand the elements yeah and I
feel like because we've gotten so climate controlled it's like our body
doesn't really have anything to fight and so then our body basically like in
many ways fights itself it's sort of like it if you have an external enemy it
really causes everybody to unite like let's say the church was under attack
then the church were kind of banned together and unite right against that
common enemy whereas like let's say you know there's no enemy then the church
could just start fighting within yeah do you understand what I'm saying yeah you
know like it's like when America gets under attack like America kind of unites
and it's not really about different facts what you're saying is is creating
an environment where you're you're constantly putting your body in a
situation where it has to defend itself against the elements yeah yeah then
basically your body is fighting the elements yeah and so your body's just
getting stronger and your body's not fighting itself because a lot of people
today they have like autoimmune disorders where their body's like
attacking itself like like allergies you know what I mean like like where they're
their body like attacks their own cells and their own joints like rheumatoid
arthritis right and I'm not a doctor I'm not a medical expert I'm not an
expert on the biology of it but that's not really the point the the I definitely
want to experiment with this because it seems it seems pretty even if it doesn't
improve my immunity just the fact that you can acclimate to the to the
different elements whether in summer or during the winter I think it's just good
for fortitude well helps you lose weight anyway because it burns calories if
you're in the cold and your body has to heat you up it's shivering yeah I I try
to avoid shivering though like part of cold training for me is to withstand the
urge to shiver so like when I go in ice water my body wants to shiver and I
fight that urge to like breathe fast and shiver and stuff the way to acclimate is
you you get into the cold water and you try to breathe normal you try to relax
into it and you try not to shiver is the best way to do it but obviously yes
shivering would burn calories too but I'm just saying like you want your body
to rely on something other than shivering yeah shivering is not really
the best way to get warm but it's what our body goes to like the go-to warm-up
mechanism so it's better to withstand the shivering and then your body will
find other ways to warm you up from the inside and obviously that's that's
burning calories anyway and it just it just builds mental toughness makes you a
little bit just able to handle heat and and cold so that you know you can be out
in there in the summer doing stuff and now knowing the winter doing stuff and
not just be like you have to have the climate a certain way all the time and
like I said I think it builds your immunity as well I found that to be the
case in my own life I think there is probably some science floating out there
okay it's time to experiment a little bit you know because this this year I
got sick quite a bit with the run on all that but we'll see for next year
yeah just try it just try it and you know like I don't I don't take cold
showers in the summer you know it's like you take cold showers in the winter yeah
or take hot showers in the summer I mean in the summer you know I just try to
exercise outside as much as I can now some people might think like how is that
even possible to run when it's 115 outside or to bike and and the key to
doing it is to stay wet so what I'll do is like I will jump in the pool with my
clothes on and then run and then I've got those wet clothes and it's like a
swamp cooler kind of and after about 30 to 40 minutes it'll be dry as a bone
your clothes will be just dry in like a half hour so I'll go on bike rides in
the summer I just I just douse myself in water and then 30 40 minutes of riding
later I'm dry as a bone then I find somebody who has the sprinklers on and I
get in the sprinklers or if I can't you know honey there goes that pastor again
playing in our sprinklers I'm not talking about residential I mean like
commercial I mean like commercial properties will have sprinklers some so
I'll get in the sprinklers or whatever I'll try to find bodies of water I can
get in just to get drenched yeah or if I can't find any of that I'll just
literally just go to the gas station buy a bottle of water and just dump it all
over myself and just do that and just keep going one time I kid you not I ran
I ran 13 miles in my neighborhood I had this 1.3 mile loop and every 1.3 miles I
would jump in the pool and it was 110 outside and I went 13 miles just by
dipping every 1.3 miles jump at the pool keep running jump at the pool keep
running and I just kept going just kept going and so that's the secret in the
summer and then and then you know after you do it a lot you can kind of get to a
level where you don't even necessarily need to get that wet where like you
start just getting used to it to where like you only have to get wet when it
gets really hot or if the workouts really long but your body adapts fast
you know what's interesting with the cold training you you will adapt super
fast like this isn't somewhere you have to wait months for results like if you
wanted to try this you'll have results in one week I guarantee it really one
week what do you mean by results here's what I mean are you saying I would
withstand yeah cold water within it within a week let me give you an example
when I first started doing this a few years ago the first time I went into a
cold swimming pool it was like 52 degrees of the water on a little
thermometer so it's like 52 degree water I went in there and after two minutes I
had to get out like I was so cold that I was like I got to get out of here now
right but after one week of doing that every day I could stay in for ten
minutes no problem well let me ask you no problem when you go into the pool are
you swimming or just just kind of just staying well as a start to start you
just kind of hang out you just just and I would just dip my head underwater like
every minute and just stay in up to my neck for ten minutes but as you get more
advanced yeah sometimes I'll get in the pool and swim around and stuff well I
don't work out I just saying that because like obviously if you jump in a
pool that's 50 degrees and you start swimming you're gonna warm up no no I'm
no you just hang out okay if I did swim around I'd swim very slowly so it's not a
workout it's just it's more just a chill no pun intended you just kind of chill
in the water but but the thing is I'm telling you like after a week you're
adapted hmm and then literally I did it one winter and then like I I didn't do
any cold training the whole spring summer fall next winter it was like the
adaptation was still there you just get right back into it and you you haven't
lost hardly anything so what I'm saying is you get results really fast now would
a word of caution though is that you know if you go into ice water for a long
time you'll die like in a very it doesn't take long to kill you in fact so
like if you go into like ice water after 15 minutes you'll you could start getting
hypothermia if you're not trained so I would that's why I would recommend
people just limit themselves to 10 minutes especially in the beginning you
know what I mean like don't go beyond 10 minutes and obviously 52 degree water
is not the same as like in the 30s yeah if you get in water that's in the 30s
and you're in it for 15 minutes you could you could get hypothermia and and
also after about a half hour you might die hmm in in ice water but if you know
if you build up to it then you could be in that 30 some degree water for an
extended period but still just for safety I would just recommend people
just kind of just limit yourself to 10 minutes especially if you're in the 30s
yeah because some people live in because in Arizona the water only gets down to
about 50 degrees but but when I go to other parts of the country I'll take
advantage of those cold places so I've I've been able to swim in some icy
rivers and in other places and and do some cold plunges but like you got it
you got to be aware though that it's not just about hey look how tough I am
because you can literally die yeah if you don't do it right right so you know
limit yourself to 10 minutes and then the other thing I would recommend is
just when you get out don't warm up too fast either if you're a beginner because
that can be very painful and it could also be harmful so usually what I do is
you know I'll spend 10 minutes in the in the water and then I'll get out and I
won't even dry off right away I was kind of hang out in the cold air for a few
minutes and let my body slowly so I'll kind of just hang out for a couple
minutes and then I'll dry off hang out for a couple more minutes then I go in
the house and and put on warm clothes yeah and you know get my body
temperature back the only thing I do because I do want to try it I want to
try that yeah or the 10-minute walks we could do that it's 20 minute walks but
he's not 20 minutes in the 90 degrees isn't that that's like that's like me
lifting his deadlift you know I mean like that's not really gonna come on
can we do something can we do actually something to do something challenging
here it's lightweight you know so maybe we'll start work maybe we'll start
running maybe I just want to try it though I do want to try that that sounds
pretty interesting I like it I want to see if it affects me for the sixth
season coming in 2022 or something you know we'll see if it actually works I
mean it worked for me yeah and maybe it's just a coincidence yeah you know
either way I mean I don't let's say it doesn't help my immunity it's still good
for fortitude reasons yeah to just make you stronger withstand the elements it
may be a coincidence put your body in a position where it's uncomfortable but
always good to do that I feel like it's helped me a lot and I just I know
anybody else who they've tried that and it's helped their immunity I mean I
don't know anybody personally who does this to themselves except my son very
valid my son my son my son Solomon he's into it like how much credibility this
has here my son Solomon he does all the cold training and stuff the same it's
helped his immunity and all that I mean he's always had great immunity okay you
know he grew up just well he's got great genetics and he just grew up eating
healthy and being physically active and you know so he's got a lot going for
him obviously well I will definitely try that that's all that's pretty awesome
sounds very uncomfortable yeah I mean I another thing that I believe in
philosophically is every single day I like to do something that I don't want
to do yeah you know what I mean just every day I just force myself to do
something that I don't want to do yeah take yourself out of your comfort zone
yeah just just take something hard just don't always take the path of least
resistance yeah you know so I and I typically like to every morning pick a
task that I've been dreading and just kind of get it out of the way yeah so I
hope that this podcast has helped people just maybe think about making some
changes to improve their health a little bit or absolutely start some kind of
exit and here's thing if you're not into lip I do think that the best place to
start is lifting like if you're gonna if you're only gonna do one thing if you're
only gonna exercise one thing I would say lifting yeah is the is the is the
most important but if you're not into lifting no problem because there's
running there's swimming I swim laps almost every week I run every week I
lift weights I buy you can get it you can get into martial arts you can get
into boxing yeah kickboxing or if you don't like striking you can get into
Brazilian jiu-jitsu which is really good on the body just find anything you like
didn't it make you do something physical to exert your body yeah some way fashion
or form you know it's it's just you need to do something with your body and I'm
not one of these people that says like oh you got to do this workout and don't
do that workout because to me the workout the works is the one that you do
yeah so if you like doing it you know then great I mean except there's a few
things that I would just say right now that I'm just against which is using the
machines at the gym are a big no-no like do not use the machines at the gym like
I'm just against that right away like like that is elating that is not a real
workout like don't do isolation exercises and don't use the machines I
would say like that's a hard and fast thing for me yeah the machines for people
who don't know the machines will isolate a muscle it's more so for body
composition than anything else whereas the heavy lifting such as the big three
they're more so for getting strong we have to use free weights yeah or body
weight exercise I'm all for body weight exercise pull-ups push-ups sit-ups yeah
all that kind of free weights dumbbells herpes whatever yeah free weights dumb
bells is what you need to be using but like the machines are dangerous they're
harmful you don't build muscle like yeah like you feel like oh I'm working so
hard and building so much muscle they don't work the stabilizing muscles and
you've got if you don't you're not working the stabilizing leg press for
example the leg press is not a good the leg press is hazardous yeah the leg
dangerous I you know when I was just funny because people will say like debt
lifting is really bad for your lower back but it's actually like the leg
presses yeah when I dude when I was 12 years old we had a leg press at our
school a leg press machine and we would load up like 400 pounds on the leg press
and I was like the skinny kid and I'm just like leg pressing 400 pounds
because it's like because it's not real it's not a real workout like you're not
really you can't lift 400 pounds but the with the leg press you can yeah dude
I'll go I'll get on the leg press I'm just piling up hundreds you just keep
adding hundreds of more pounds you just keep being able to lift it but then you
go over to the squat rack and you've made zero gains yeah it doesn't it does
not translate yeah one time I spent I experimented one time I spent like five
or six weeks using the leg press and then I went to the squat rack I hadn't
even gained an ounce on the squat rack like the leg press is a joke and it's
dangerous for your back because you're lifting these insane amounts whereas
like for example like I've noticed that my my deadlift has gone stronger only
because my squat has gone strong like my squats have helped my deadlift
tremendously and those things all transfer because you're actually
building real strength yeah whereas this fake strength that you build and and the
worst machines are like the bench press machine the military press machine those
those machines are horrible like you just grab the dumbbells and do it do it
the real way you talk about like the Smith machine yeah or the pec deck or
whatever well Smith machine is really bad even for like deadlifts and squats
because yeah what did you say Ulysses like it kind of messes up your form
right yeah it only moves in one manner it's these real unnatural movements you
can get injured it's unnatural you're not gonna make gains look if I go to the
gym I don't want to waste my time spinning my wheels look so fight I not
as one that beat at the air yeah not as you know use it the leg press I'm just
saying like using the machines at the gym and people gravitate to the machines
because they're easy but like you might as well not even go to the gym if you're
gonna use so gain my opinion so so I make gains not as one that does the leg
press I'm just saying like I don't even go to the gym if you're gonna use the
machines like it's free weights or die okay so I do want to say that but other
than that do whatever you want do whatever you like and on another thing I
hate treadmills they make no sense like yeah but hold on a second why would you
run a treadmill when you could just go outside and run okay see now and then
and here's what and here's what was excuse yeah they they drive around the
parking lot trying to find the closest parking spot so that they can get on a
treadmill but but here here's the thing too about the treadmill people's excuse
for using the treadmills like what about when it's too hot what about what's too
cold okay back up this recording 20 minutes if it's cold or hot that's just
better training yeah no treadmill I would rather run in place hey I'm all
for you to run on a treadmill yeah amen jump no running jump rope yes treadmill
no you don't have to worry about me getting on it makes no sense
exactly I agree all right percent I'm not as against the treadmill as I am
against the machines the weight machines yeah but treadmills to me you're just
boring anyway yeah yeah I agree I agree and you don't take any supplements you
don't do any pre-workout no you don't take it most radical thing I take is a
multivitamin I told I told you what one time I I did some doping before a
workout you with some Starbucks I drink a caramel frappuccino from Starbucks
that was like the most radical doping I've ever done you don't do a pre-workout
or creatine or anything of that nature never you're all natty just food water
and a multivitamin he doesn't folks he doesn't even use shoes when he runs can
you believe that but I've he's all natty I mean we're talking about natty he's
his feet sometimes I'll do like an organic like all natural organic protein
powder that's from like pea protein or whey or something it's kind of but it's
all like he's a he's a boring he could be a Mormon when it comes to like these
matters and if ever I go on a trip with pastor Anderson I make sure I don't go
to his cabin because it's there's no junk food allowed junk food we went to a
pastor's retreat and we went to the grocery store to go get some some stuff
and I was I was getting like Swiss rolls stuff that I typically me but it's like
we're partying he's like we're not getting this he wanted to get like
vegetables and all it's the more it's the Joseph Smith cabin you know I mean
no no so does no nothing yeah no cat there's no coke no no coffee no nothing
so just for future reference anybody who you know so he's very much that he he
takes the he takes the natty approach to another level so yep so it's an
unrealistic goal for a lot of people well pastor Anderson thank you so much
for being on the podcast yeah man a lot of great information folks I hope it I
hope it inspires you and motivates you to number one start exercising in some
form or manner whether that's powerlifting or running or swimming or
doing martial arts changing up your diet maybe testing out some fasting maybe
changing out you know trying out this this climate change type of a workout
not workout but just you know training I like that climate change training or
adapting to the climate whether it's heat or it's cold and and just
recognizing that all these things at the end of the day whatever it is that you
do is to make you a better servant of God to help you to be a better tool for
the Lord to use a better vessel and to honor meet for the Masters use and not
bad to have short-term goals but at the end of the day we do this to obtain an
incorruptible crown and so pastor Anderson thank you again for being here
hope you have a safe trip back home folks thank you for watching make sure
you watch the episodes of course on YouTube these will be on audio on
Spotify as well and we're looking forward to seeing you all on the next
episode god bless and have a great evening
you