Alright, welcome to the rod of iron podcast fundamental Baptist breaking down discussions dogma and daily events
I am your host pastor Bruce me here first works Baptist Church, and I'm joined by a special guest tonight. We have brother John
Sieber from our church John the Assyrian and
He he's adidas doubt right now. And so yeah pants and shoes. You can't see but I got the
You know, I just got finished doing an interview with them
A guy on YouTube and on Instagram
King no pal and he's a big Trump supporter, but he um, it's so it's pretty cool
He believes just like we do he listens to our preaching but every time like a good point was made
He had a button he could press and it would go
It was all like you have this audience and like rapper base put the death pedophiles
King James, I'm a I
Gotta we gotta get a button like that for the for the rod of iron podcast
So with that being said brother John Sieber is with us tonight
And
Looking forward to a great episode. We're just gonna get into some random topics tonight. And so John
Thanks for coming on the on the podcast tonight for me. Yeah second time back. Yeah back again back again
Yeah, and if you don't remember brother John was on the podcast a couple as it was actually last year Wow
it was last year and he was the he was talking about being a pilot and
He was also talking about his experience in the monastery
He lived in a monastery for quite some time and the horrors of the monastery life
And so we're looking forward to what he has for us tonight
Don't mean to put you on the spot, but I just did and so excited to have you. Yeah. All right
Alright guys, let's get started done done and done and done and on and out
So
Anyways, um
Yeah, because like you leases his car
During the last podcast
He was for all here and then there was like a text message that came in and it was from you leases
But I didn't know I just didn't really pay attention to it
But then I realized I was like, oh, yeah, he texted me
So I look and he said someone someone's outside stealing my car trying to steal my car
we all run outside and
The police are already out there
Believe it or not
Ulysses is out there his vehicles out there and there's this
Drunk guy out there and
I guess the story goes is that this?
drunk individual
was inside of you leases his car and kind of just like looking around and stuff and you lease his wife was actually in the
foyer and
she's like looking at him do this and
I think she asked them like hey
Did you I don't know what did she ask you like oh
Yeah, where did you park the car? He's like in front of the church?
He's like, well, there's someone in your car in the car right now
So he ran out there and this guy was out there and there's another individual who had actually had already called the police, right?
And he's looking at him do this. He's like this guy's trying to steal the vehicle
Well, it turns out this guy had the same exact vehicle as Ulysses
And he was saying that you know, oh I thought it was my car
I thought was my car and the funny thing is we go out there and I'm looking at Ulysses vehicle
I'm like man Ulysses did a horrible job parking this vehicle
Like why is it look like I'm like this guy this looks bad the police is right here like but it's actually Ulysses
It's actually the drunk guys vehicle and they're actually like about two spaces away from each other
So, I don't know if the guy was lying
He might have been lying or something
But for sure his vehicle was almost the exact same one as brother who leases they look
Yeah, and then another thing is this guy never leaves his vehicle unlocked
I leave my I used to leave my vehicle unlocked all the time
Like wait if I go to the store not at night
But during the day if I go to the store, I leave it unlocked because I figured what are they gonna steal?
There's nothing there's nothing in my vehicle on 30 40 minutes. Yeah, there's nothing of value inside my vehicle
other than of course my Bible and all that stuff, but who's gonna want that and
And
He always locks it like this guy could be driving the most raunchy his bucket
vehicle in the world
He's the log you he'll lock and do the beeping sounds that beep-beep Oh
Milan well, that's a different story. Milan had a tick
He had a what is that? He had a he had obsessive compulsive disorder when it came to locking doors
So all doors, I believe so for sure
His vehicle door like you'd press the button like 50 times just to make sure
You know, I'll cut this out of the podcast, but that was pretty funny though. Yeah this yeah
He was obsessive. He had obsessive compulsive disorder with a lot of things like he couldn't make left turns. Oh, yeah
He basically would make a right turn until he reached it reached his destination
So if you had to make a left turn he would like
He would make a ride and ride and ride and right and just kind of go all the way around to
Got to wherever you had to go to how would he be able to watch NASCAR? Oh
God oh
Man yeah, how would he come to this church?
He wouldn't be able to come here unless you just get off of you know
Yeah, another freeway. Yeah
So you can
Obsessive compulsive
disorder
Obsessive compulsive disorder. I know nothing about that
You don't we can't talk about it because John doesn't know anything about it. You reading any new books or what?
No, I've been super busy with you know between work and all the music stuff. Aren't you learning Greek right now? I
Have that on a hold right now really? Yeah, so I got
Too much stuff that I try to learn at the same time. Yeah, I always do. Yeah
Well, John, so John is is in charge of our
orchestra
Okay in our church. He's doing a great job. He's always learning these weird instruments
the
Saxon net or the Claire Claire phone is clarinet
The bass clarinet looks like a like a dark version of a saxophone or something Cody makes the same joke about it every time
He's like, hey, you're gonna throw it on the floor and turn into a snake. He told me that joke on Sunday
He's really proud of that like four times. That's it right there. That's the bass clarinet. That's it right there, right? Yep
Yeah, it's the dark side of the saxophone. Yeah, sounds great though. It's nice and bassy
Yeah, we needed something like that in the orchestra cuz we had a bunch of flutes and yeah
I was playing the other clarinet which no one can hear. Yeah, so
This is at least something people can hear. Well, don't say no one can hear cuz isn't Malia
Learn
He influenced Malia to learn the clarinet and I think she's learning it right? Yeah
Yeah, we didn't get some of the podcasts and says you can't even hear the clarinet. Well the shout out to Malia
She knows that about it. I told her I was like cuz she's like, oh, you know, I'm nervous about playing
You know and all this cuz everyone whenever I try to get people in the orchestra
They always use that right and I'm like, don't worry. The clarinet is really easy. No one will even hear you
You already told her that I
Thought I was like look there's seven billion people in the world and only like
150 of those people are in this building and they're not gonna hear you anyway, so
You're fine. No, you got nothing. John is a little rough. Hey Malia. We can hear you. Okay, we're
Gonna mic up every single instrument. I mean, we've already miked up a couple instruments already, but we want to hear the clarinet
Yeah, and you know, I really want the clarinet to get added back into because now we have kind of
Like four instruments that are playing in a certain range we have the soprano and the alto and
The bass now between you know, the cello and the bass clarinet. What do we have? We have we've got a flute
we have a tin whistle tin whistle slash recorder slash recorder, which by the way, the the
The offertory on Sunday night was awesome. You liked it. I loved it. I didn't expect it. It was kind of on the fly
I didn't even practicing it for a couple weeks, but
Whenever I'm at work, I listen to hymns all day. Yeah, and I just try and imagine like, you know
What instruments would that sound good with? Yeah, and I wanted that one to be with guitar. It sounded amazing
So, oh, yeah, what about her? Yeah, it's hard that the flute in the tin was right
So Eric, you know, we knew he wasn't gonna be there. Yeah yesterday anyway, and I was like, oh man, this works out perfect
Yeah, so yeah, that one sounds really good. And then I got a whole bunch more stuff to play
But yeah, we got the flute tin whistle slash recorder and Louisa. She's gonna be learning the flute as well, too
Yeah, we got a bunch of talented people in the orchestra. They're just like music genius. Yeah, brother Carrie's got the trumpet
Yeah, and he's gonna be learning the saxophone. Yeah, so brother brother Chevy is our rock star
Yeah, well the guitar not the electric guitar folks, yeah acoustic steel string nylon string both of them
He's really good because he doesn't read music
I'm sure he can read music, but he does he can't we use he says he used to be able to read music
But he's like, but I can't do that anymore
But but the thing is the guy is just has an ear for music
Yeah
He can just play and it just sounds like great the offertory that we had
Because I can't give him a piece in like sheet music, you know, he just has to like hey
Can I can you uh, you know learn this piece and then play it on Sunday night? I just sent him a video
Of the song and I'm like, hey Chevy. Can you learn this? He's like, yeah, he only has to listen to thing like one time
He knows all the chords. I don't remember when it was but we're
We were I was going over some song. It was like a Christmas song and he had never heard it before and
And
Eric wasn't there to play it
I just was singing it and he started playing it on the guitar just from like
The way I was singing it and it sounded great
So he's he's doing a good job as well, but the Chevy with the with the guitar then we have got perfect pitch
That's what he has. You know, you can hear a note. I've even tested him or you know playing note on the piano
He's like, oh, that's an a-flat Wow
So he could tell you what note everything is
That's why he can hear the key of a piece and he knows what chords go with a piece like that
So he can just kind of like memorize the music that way and then we have brother Ulysses wife who plays the cello
Right. She's doing a good job. I love the cello. I love the how deep the cello sounds sounds like chocolate
It does
Yeah, you're right. Actually. I said that some people in their life. They're like, what do you mean by that?
But it's like if I'm gonna describe the sound it's like
Well, because when you think of chocolate you think of rich chocolate rich rich, you know darker yeah
Well, you know, it's not this bright cheery sort of thing. Yeah
That's a good way to describe it. Yeah, the cello is very chocolatey. It's very it's very deep. It's very brown
It's very delicious. No, I'm just kidding
Delicious to the to the ears, right?
It touches the soul though, and then uh, then we have now
a
Bass clarinet, but I was gonna call the clarinet sax. Yeah bass clarinet. It sounds great
Yeah, and we got a bunch more coming. Yeah, Malia's got learning the clarinet
Yeah, so we got Malia on the clarinet. So he's learning the violin violin brother hikes learning the cello
Hike from the rata buyer podcast learning the French horn. Oh, that's right. Yeah, and he's he's uh, he played the trumpet
When he was in school for okay or five years. Yeah, so all that experience
Well, you know, what's great about this is the fact that we're calling them out right now. So there there's no going back
I think I'm doing yeah, there's no going back now. They have to learn it. Oh
We almost forgot
Brother Jason with the cymbals Oh high-sounding cymbal
He doesn't yeah, he does a good job. His cymbals and his tubular bells, too. And then brother
Brother Jacob with the snare drums when needed, you know what we have like a victory through grace type song
Where it requires of some sort of marching type sound and he's good at it because he used to do it in high school
Yeah, yeah, so so orchestras doing great. Of course Eric the professional right doing a great job on the piano
Yeah, but the John you're doing a great job with the orchestra. I'm looking forward to well
We don't want to talk about the projects that we're working on. Those are secret secret. It's a secret. Okay
Okay, so you guys stay tuned for the building knows about it
Yeah, but not everyone now not everyone who tunes into the rod of iron podcast. All right
Projects we'll keep it. We'll keep it a secret. We've said too much already. Yeah
So we'll move on to the next subject. But yeah, the music ministry is going great and John's one of those guys
He's like, uh, what is that? What is that called?
He's like a savant kind of with all the without the other weird stuff attached to it
Yeah, he these guys just learns instruments on a fly, right? He just give him an instrument. He just learns it
So yeah, thanks for helping out in the orchestra doing a good job. Yeah. Love you. Amen
So
Speaking of languages you said you took a break from Greek, right? So like I said, cuz I'm learning all this other stuff
Right now, you know kind of felt lower on the list of priorities. I'd still really want to learn Greek
I love learning languages, you know in general I spent that whole year in Turkey where that's pretty much all I was doing
Yeah, I was spending time learning languages and actually before I had even gone on that trip
I had wanted to learn Greek
That was my plan was I'd go to Turkey
For a year and learn Syriac and Turkish and then I'd go to Greece and learn Greek
Yeah, that's what I wanted to do. I came back early because a family stuff and whatnot
And I never got that chance to learn Greek
So I started with Pimsleur and all that but do you know Syriac
Right, yeah, you can read it
yeah, I can read it which was the hardest part learning how to read it because
You know, it's a different alphabet. It looks very different Greek is
You know a lot easier to read because it's so lots more similar to Latin. It's very phonetic. Yeah, and
Greek has vowels and right so Syriac there's no vowels. It's only consonants
So you have to know what the vowels are. Yes on the context
Yeah, I took a break from studying Greek for a little bit
Just because of everything that was going on with the bombing and everything all my energies went to other things, right?
But I love learning Greek and I don't know if I'll ever master Greek
But just I feel like spending a lifetime learning it is still worth it. Not only for my brain's sake but just for
Just just to learn another language, especially a language that's attached to the New Testament
Yeah, you know and because I was learning
I'm learning modern Greek and then reading the Greek New Testament and then also
Memorizing a thousand of the most frequently used
Greek words in the New Testament as well and
One thing that inspires me to learn it is the fact that obviously I want to read the Greek New Testament completely
But and but also because I want to refute people who try to downplay the King James, right?
There's a lot of people like that. Yeah, and they like to go back to the grief
Yeah, kind of scholar or whatever like these James Y type exactly
Then you hear them even if you just take a couple lessons on Pimsleur, yeah, you hear how Greek sounds you're like, okay
This is how this language is supposed to sound. It sounds like it sounds that way and then you hear someone like James White
So, you know
Sklei Ross, Esten, Hala, Goss and Toss and you're like
What is the matter with this guy?
Yeah, he doesn't know anything sounds like a Star Wars language or something. Yeah, you see people like that
Well, you know the thing is the people believe them. Oh, yeah people take them for experts. Absolutely. Oh, yeah this person
I knew this guy who claimed to be like a Greek expert and the guy is a total heretic
like he was a wolf and and he used to go to the church that I used to attend and
Just a complete wolf and and he would go around
Telling people that why they shouldn't use the King James Bible
But everyone knew him as the man who knew Greek because he would always bring up these Greek terms
and this is what it really says in the Greek and who couldn't refute him because no one knew Greek and
So when he would tell me that because he would try to influence me and some of the other young guys
I would just tell him like
You know you you do know more than me
But I'm just gonna stick with the King James because I believe that's what it is. I believe it's it's the Word of God
Exactly and you know, even if maybe he does know a lot of Greek the people who translated the King James Bible
Oh, you know more. Yeah, they know now studying Greek looking back
I realized that this guy didn't even know any great whatsoever, which is often the case, you know
Yeah, they don't know anything
What they're doing is they're referencing their lexicons and and all that and they're not even doing a month
They don't even know modern Greek
which I've learned within the last couple of years that obviously one of the best ways to learn Greek is
Learn kini kini Greek is to learn modern Greek and to have the modern pronunciation to it
Right, and I've learned that if sometimes when people claim to know Greek and they know biblical Greek
But they can't even speak the language. You just kind of lost credibility
Yeah, because how are you gonna teach me Spanish when you don't even speak Spanish, right?
How are you gonna teach me what the Spanish Bible says if you don't even you can't speak a lick of it
You can't hold a conversation in Spanish. Yeah, so I learned that of course through pastor Anderson and
Just personal studies and even as like I'm not deeply into Greek
But just a surface study of Greek and reading through the Greek New Testament learning some of the vocabulary words
already, I've kind of like debunked a lot of the things that people throw out there and
Just in your casual reading of the book of John or or you know, the book of Revelation
Or even through the book of James. I've seen things
I'm like, well these people have lied about this or this person lied about this like this is actually what it actually says
So it's it's really good I like learning Greek it's good for the mind, but it's also good just to be able to to
Debunk the gainsayers and what they say against the King James Bible and then to Lord willing if I ever do
quote-unquote master it and what I consider to master the language or to be fluent should I say is
Be able to hold a conversation is when I'm able to win Greek speakers to the Lord
Because that's really what I want to do
I want to be able to go to Greece one day
With my Greek New Testament and just start the conversation in Greek and preach the gospel in Greek and get them saved in Greek
You know pray in Greek and do everything in Greek not have to rely on any English
No, just kind of speak it as though it's a it's like a heart language, right?
I would love to do that and that's my goal eventually. Do you have a time frame when you want to do?
Well, I'm I want to head to Greece
Greece not Cyprus. I want to head to Greece next summer next summer. I'd like to yes
And of course pastor Robinson we've been planning this trip for many many
Eons, not eons, but for a long time
We've been wanting to go and of course with kovat and everything everything shut down and over there in Greece
It's the whole kovat is really bad very bad over there. Yeah, the law also is very bad
Like yeah, you can even get fined for oh, yeah, not wearing a mask outside
Yeah, if I remember correctly like in Greece you have to
Text if you want to get outside like you have to text the government like can I go out?
It's like crazy. So obviously they're probably nowhere near
You know where we're at right now in the United States that things even here, you know, they've started loosening up
But it's still pretty bad. You know, it's like so hopefully by next year if they open up, you know
I'd like to go and Greece is very large. So it's obviously not a
Trip where we're just gonna hit all of Greece. We have to go to somewhere specific ingress and
I'm either thinking you know Thessaloniki or
Athens or one of the islands
like
St. Mykonos, that's one of the islands you want to go somewhere with like a lot of population. Yes
Yeah, a lot of the population density and I don't know. I mean, you know, it's I guess we'll see when we get there
Who's really receptive towards the gospel?
Obviously, you know pastor Anderson said that a lot of the younger generation are very open to the gospel because they're rejecting Orthodox, right?
And it just reminds me of the Catholics because a lot of the younger Catholics
Yeah straight away from Catholicism because of it of their self righteousness and the self righteous attitude
The Catholics have and priests and all that and they're kind of open towards the gospel, you know
So I think it might be the same with the Orthodox. Yeah, you gotta catch them in that in-between point
Yeah, because they're they're obviously they're rejected Catholicism. Yeah an orthodoxy, but they can go and catch it. Yeah
They would be like, you know, oh no, I'm completely atheist
Yeah stuff like that where because of the Catholic Church of the Orthodox Church and they just hate everything about the Bible, right?
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, but the Robinson actually gave me a Bible the the Bible of the bear. It's a massive Bible
It's really awesome. It's this first Spanish. Can you talking to someone on your watch man or something?
He loves that watch
He gave me the Bible of the bear and it's a massive Bible was the first canonized bout Bible in Spanish
1569 it's really good
But I'm intrigued by those things especially when it comes, you know, Greek is very similar to Spanish, right?
Even the the sound of it. Yeah, you know, yeah
I think that's what helps with my pronunciation as well
Which I'm sure even speaking Syriac helps with the pronunciation in Greek. Would you say or no? They sound quite a bit different
Yeah, yeah, I would say they sound very different what it would see you speak Syriac and what else Turkish
So does Turkish help you with the pronunciation? No, okay, Turkish and Greek are like enemy languages. Oh, yeah
Well, you know language transfer. Yeah, the whole idea behind that it was started by I believe a Cypriot man. Oh
Yeah, they have Greek people and Turkish yeah
So he it was used as a tool to get the Turkish people to art to get
Turkish people to be able to learn Greek Greek
Yeah, people learn Turkish invites. It's the vast difference of the the language right so that you know communication good
Yes between them so that you know possibly through that there would be less strife. There would be less
So is there a lot of strife between Turkish people and Greeks? I
mean, I don't know how it is now, but I
Don't remember exactly when it was but even in the last century
There was a lot of bad stuff because Cyprus a lot of bad stuff and Turkish aggression and all that
Yeah, so I mean if you talk to like the young people, yeah
Yeah, the metropolitan areas in Turkey, you know, of course, they're not for anything like that, but it's a
Country where it's still
The government is still very corrupt
In government and the people are not really the same thing and it's becoming more Islamic also where Turkey used to be a country
That was you know Muslim Empire the Ottoman Empire
Yeah
And then with the revolution they became completely secularized to the point where you weren't allowed to wear like a hijab in public
You know, you couldn't wear the burka and stuff like that. It was made, you know illegal and
They changed from the Arabic alphabet to the Latin alphabet so they were trying to like westernize, yeah the country
But now it's going more back towards that words, you know
Islamism and stuff like that and with that comes
You know all the Islamic teachings of jihad
Conquering everything. Yeah, you see in all of
Muslim history, they're always just trying to conquer and expand and all that
You know
They even went as far as Spain everything conquered all of Spain. So
You know with that
Coming back. There may be
more
Aggression tension, you know in the future. Well, I hope that I mean my hope is that
Greece would one day to open and then we can preach the gospel there. But who knows maybe maybe you know
There won't be an opportunity. We don't know sometimes you wonder about certain countries
Because obviously Greece at one time was the hub of Christianity, right?
Just like Jerusalem one time was the hub of Christianity so to speak where the truth was, but then it died out
Different parts of the world have been that way and Greece was kind of like that because you had all these
Gentiles believing on Jesus Christ or starting these churches the church at Thessalonica and
And
There's churches in Athens. There's there's there's Gentile believers in in
Turkey, you know modern-day Turkey and their their Greek speakers there and all these things but then it just kind of died out
So you kind of wonder if God allowed it to kind of close up a little bit because they kind of had their chance
I hope that's not the case
Because I would love to go over there and just I think it'd be very nostalgic to go but win people to Christ
Where a lot of the original quote-unquote Christians were from the New Testament, but you never know, you know
I guess another good thing if we never go over there is that I can learn the language just make videos in Greek
You know just make videos and promote it over there. Yeah preach the gospel in Greek and
Preach biblical truths in Greek make little videos in Greek so we can send that over there
So who knows but doesn't it seem like it keeps moving west? Yeah central hub of Christianity
you know starting in like
Israel and then into Greece and then into Europe and England over to America and it keeps moving westward, you know
Well, it's funny you say westward because now
Who I mean, I'm I still think it's here
But you see a lot of things going on in the Philippines
For example, right and there's a there's a lot of missionaries being sent out of there
A lot of people are very receptive towards the gospel. And in fact, I had a Filipino missionary contact me
I don't know a couple weeks ago
maybe was a couple weeks ago and
he was a guy who I
knew back in the day when I was in the old IFP Church and he's an old IFP missionary and it was funny because
Somehow I found out that he was you know, cuz missionaries in the old IFP they do deputation
What that means is they go to different churches to get support right so they can go on the mission field
Well, he was doing that. So he was going on a deputation and he ended up going to Verity Baptist Church
For deputation, right and you know pastor Jimenez is just like, you know, if he's preaching the gospel who cares what he believes about
And times Bible prophecy if he's gonna get the work done, you know, I want to support a missionary
and so I think he started getting supported by
Verity Baptist Church and when I was at my old church
I found out about that and so he ended up coming to our church and he he's like associated with someone that's associated with our
church and just you know church that was sent out of our church and
He came to our church and I was like, hey, I think I know you're you know, brother so-and-so and he's like, yeah
I was like didn't you go to Verity Baptist Church and he was like
Yeah, I did, you know kind of different on end times, but you know, they like so any I was like cool
you know, I thought it was really cool that he went there and
but he recently contacted me and said that he's making the switch to post-trip and
He's like, you know, and he said, you know, I believe in the poster pre-wrath now. He goes I need your advice
What do I do because I know I'm gonna catch a lot of heat for this and I said, yes
You are and you're probably gonna lose everything and I was like, I'm just preparing you
But I was like you just need to preach God's Word and preach the truth
No matter what, you know and just wherever the chips may fall and just deal it deal with it, you know
And so but he agrees with this on a lot of stuff, but he was telling me that
A lot of the churches over there. They're very ruckmanite, you know
They heard that from
Jerry and
For the Jeff from Verity as well. Yeah, because there's a lot of Baptist churches out there. Yeah supposedly, but they're all ruckmanites, right?
Which is unfortunate because it's the tears being sown among the wheat
You know because you have a lot of people that are getting saved over there
I mean anytime I hear about like a new IFB mission strip going to
Going to the Philippines a ton of people are getting say you got brother Matthew stuck you over there
Well over there all the time the wheels over there and now we have this guy who's who's out there and he's getting a bunch
Of people saved and even Filipino people here, you know, oh, yeah, they're Filipino and they're always well
They they kind of remind me of Belizeans. Yeah. Yeah, because Belizeans are just very kind
Very polite very polite. They will not tell you no, which is good and bad
It's good because they'll give you the time of day and they'll listen, you know, they might not even be really interesting exactly
Your time going along to get in to get along kind of thing
But it's interesting how you said that it was moving west and it seems like it's going kind of like around the world again
But who knows? We'll see. Hey, did you guys hear about that? Um
about those aliens
You guys hear about that? No, I
Don't believe in aliens
But you know that the the the correct term
Apparently is uaps
Okay. Oh, I have heard of this heard of this. I've heard of this from my dad
Oh, really? I had a conversation with my dad
other morning over some coffee and
He was talking about it because he's a good old conversation between a father son. So let me tell you about uaps
Well, he's a he's a pilot right my dad. So
He's uh, you know
We'll get into that we don't don't don't tell that yeah, let me let me talk about this first and then you'll jump in with
that
So we're living in the day and age where
Movies are coming to life now. It seems things that were only talked about in movies
Seem to be come a reality later on and I'm not saying it's real
I'm just saying like the government media social media the news
They're making they're speaking of it as though it's actually real and what I mean by that is, you know
Back in the day you would hear about UFOs and you see movies about UFOs and aliens
People just kind of laugh it off. But now
they're actually coming out and saying that
These UFOs are real and they're not calling them UFOs. They're calling them uaps, which is unidentified aerial phenomenon, right?
and the reason they're coming out with it is because of the fact that
Apparently these pilots are
seeing these
uaps
fairly frequently, okay, and they're capturing these uaps on camera on radar and
You know and so no one was doing anything about it
And so the these these pilots just basically or I'm sorry not the pilot
but someone who works for the government basically took this to the New York Times or something and just published it basically, right and
Now like they're catching a lot of heat they're saying hey
What are you doing about this because now these pilots are coming out and say well we see this all the time
We're seeing these uaps all the time. We see them every day. Anytime we fly out. We see them over and over again
We're always capturing them and we're always
Addressing letting our superiors know that we're seeing these things and we don't and they just kind of brush it off
Well now it's getting to the point where they're they're giving
The Senate like a lot of heatness in the in the Senate's basically Colin coming out and saying well you guys better
Bring a report about what these things are by the end of June. We need to find out what these things are
and these pilots who are
Who are basically testifying to seeing these things who are witnessing these uaps they don't believe it's aliens
But I'm sure a lot of people out there like they're aliens, you know
They're just saying like one of the pilots was saying I don't think it's aliens I'm thinking it's like China or Russia and
Some you know, it's it's a security breach right what we see it's a risk
Because of the fact that these uaps are traveling at an extreme velocity
They're fast as jet can go about
2,600 miles an hour or something like that to 2,000 miles an hour
Whereas these uaps can travel up to 13,000 miles an hour and
You know, they have there's no don't leave a contrail. Yeah, that's one thing that my dad
Yeah, cuz he's been looking into this, you know, cuz he
Watches airplane stuff all the time. Your father's a pilot. My father is a pilot, right?
So, you know, he's been into aviation his whole life. And so has he ever seen a UAP? Yes. Oh, man
Yes, we have it on here on the rod of iron podcast first folks
We need to have brother brother John's dad. Come on. They brought of iron podcast. I'm just kidding. Go ahead. So
Actually few years ago and it's not something that he sees all the time. Okay, but a few years ago and he saw
Some kind of well walk us through what happened
He was flying when you know describe the story a little bit. It was sunny out
He was flying
In cruise. So, you know, what does that mean way up there cruise altitude?
You know somewhere between depending on where he was flying, you know
somewhere between 30,000 feet 41,000 feet something like that so way up there and
Out of you know, all of a sudden he saw some kind of it, you know
He took a video of it too. So I've seen in it's like some small little
Looks like a light and it's not a reflection of it was below him. No, no, it was you know
Off to the horizon. Yeah, and
It was moving in a way
That did not look normal more natural in any way, you know
Cuz an airplane if it was an airplane and it was just like a reflection of the Sun off an airplane an airplane
Just gradually gradually slow moves across one direction
But this thing was like, you know, like nothing like nothing. Yeah, you know weird thing and
He asked
The controller air traffic control he said, you know, we're seeing this thing out in front of us
You know what it is, and they just say no, we don't see anything
so
Did he what did he record it with with this phone?
Yeah, so it was moving all weird. He saw that he was like, ah, that's probably something I should capture on video
Yeah, so he recorded it. He sure he still has the video
Let's get that video real quick. Yeah
And then another one that he had seen he and his friend had seen
Actually from the ground
Where they were at the airport and actually I may have a picture of it. Oh my yeah
You see it here first folks on the rod of iron podcast
yeah, so
Apparently, this is something that people frequently see now the unfortunate thing is is that the public will hear about this and
The vast majority of
People will think that they are actually aliens
You know like little green men or something. Yeah, which my dad does not believe. Yeah, cuz your dad's probably a reasonable individual, right?
who oh
Yeah, I see they're on 60 minutes. What does it say Navy pilots recall?
Okay, can you make that screen bigger? Oh
Wait, I know what this is. This is not this is basically
I saw this too. I saw this as well. This is what he saw when he was flying
No, this is something else this from the ground. So I saw this. This is basically I
Don't know if I'm describing this correctly, I'll put it on the screen just a little bit but
they're sending something into orbit basically and
This is just what it looks like when it's sent into orbit when like NASA sends something into orbit like a like a
Satellite of some sort because I actually saw this one time and I was like, what am I looking at?
Like I saw it with my own eyes
To you about two years ago. That's about when this happened. Okay, that's
Yeah, you just lost all credibility
But it looked like this thing yeah hanging in the sky then you saw this too, right I saw that yeah
Yeah, I remember looking at that and I was thinking myself aliens. What in the world?
No, I just thought to myself like did the government just mess up and just like make this happen right now
Yeah, I'm like, what am I eating here? I was actually at a birthday party
I was at some kids birthday party with my wife and we just looked at him. I was like, look at that
I was like, what is that? Am I seeing this? Am I my mind's playing tricks on me. I forgot here
I'll tell you what it is right now. I'll tell you what it is right now
Because I talked to someone who's into all this stuff or whatever the NASA
I know there's people out there that hate NASA
People in our in our church
I don't care
Let's see here
Where is this? Let's see here
He
Messaged me about it this guy documentary
Come on oh, maybe I don't have it nevermind
Anyways
This guy told me what it was, but I don't see it on here. He was just telling me that it's it's some sort of
Because he highlighted it in his stories and basically said alright this has now they find they finally send it into orbit
It's gonna be up, you know for this amount of time or whatever and I was like, oh man
I was wondering what that was and
He was just saying that it's some project that
NASA was working on
But that's definitely different than what we're than what your dad's all right
Right. So this is separate what he saw is they're leaving a trail light. Yeah, which leaves no trail
Yeah, cuz it has propulsion but it doesn't have any like
Exhaust or anything that it leaves behind right right, but even you know if it
Didn't have any exhaust or anything like that if there was something moving through a medium like air at that speed
Yeah, it would disrupt the air just in the same way, you know
You move through the water in a boat, even if you don't cause a ripple effect
Yeah, you say you're in a row boat you can still see you know the wake created by the boat
Mm-hmm because it's you know pushing through that medium. So does that happen with aircrafts as well?
Well, yeah, I mean an example of a good example of when that happens is when an aircraft breaks the sound barrier
Oh, yeah, I've seen as you see the the shockwave. Yeah
Mach cone. Yeah
I've seen that I've seen that because
What it's doing is it's going through the air and it's punching through the air so fast where the air can't
You know just slip around the aircraft and it just busts around it Wow
so if something was moving at an incredible speed, you know, like
The thing that my dad saw in that video
It would leave something behind even if it didn't have propulsion or whatever, even if it was something that's why my dad
He was saying, you know, he's like
They're saying it's moving at this crazy speed
But it's not leaving anything in the air, you know
Because anything that would move that fast would leave some kind of
Contrail some kind of wake unless it's some sort of advanced technology that the government
we have no idea how it works, but that's what I would reckon it is because
well, it's either that or some sort of
It or it's just some sort of
Visual that the government's creating that's not even really there
Right, wouldn't that be an explanation for like some I'm not saying it's like a hologram
But it may be some sort of technology word. It looks like it's there, but it's not really there like a
Projection of right, you know because like you said it for something to remove at that speed
It would have to leave some sort of ripple effect in the in the in the air around it right around it
But who knows it could be all kinds of stuff and you know, even if we look back
Things that now for us are kind of like old technology. Yeah, if you look back, you know, 60 70 years ago
There they were things that are unfathomable
Absolutely, like the sr-71 this really really fast plane, you know goes over Mach 3 three times the speed of sound
Yeah, you know it's faster than a bullet and it's a manned airplane
so you have a man inside of an airplane is moving faster than a bullet and
If you were to try to describe that to someone even 70 years ago, they would think like oh, no, that's crazy
You know, nothing moves that fast. Yeah possible and all this
But now it's just normal now because and that's another thing that the government had kept secret for so long
Because they started developing that in the 60s. Yeah, they started flying it. I think in 1964
but in total secrecy and
Same thing they try made sure to keep things covered up and all that, you know
the surveillance aircraft and people had
You know questions and sightings and the government had thought I kind of talk around it. So
Well, that's what that's what I think is situation. Yeah right now just with I believe it's just some some advanced technology that the
government's working on
Because if these pilots are saying that they see this every single day
You know what? I mean? Like if it was China or Russia
you know and they had this technology to just
breach
Security and just fly and not be able to be captured
I mean, don't you think like they would have done something about it? Like they would bomb us or destroy us, right?
I mean, that's some pretty advanced technology
but secondly
You know there is the government just probably testing something out and like you said, you know
There's technology back in the day that I mean, I'm sorry. There's technology today
That even 50 years ago people would think it's just unfathomable
I remember being a kid watching a cartoon called Dick Tracy and Dick Tracy was this
He was like a detective and he's talking to his watch
Right, and we thought it was just like the coolest thing ever like to talk into your watch. It's never possible
It's just science fiction stuff, but here's an eyewash, right?
Okay, you know our phones are little computers that fit even 50 years ago
We would never have imagined that what we can do on a phone like you could literally operate everything on a phone
You know your credit cards are on here
You can literally just swipe your foot your watch or your phone on it and then you just pay for something
It's just easy, you know, so it's not far-fetched that these uaps are just simply the government testing out some advanced technology
But I'll tell you what, it's not
It's not aliens. Okay. And the reason we know it's not aliens is because of the fact that aliens aren't real exactly
God did not make aliens. Okay, and so but unfortunately, you know, I guarantee you
There's gonna be the vast majority of people in this world
Who because they watch too many X-Files and sci-fi movies and Star Wars that they really believe it's aliens. Yeah, and
There's a whole culture behind that and
I think it's an anti-god culture, of course
Yeah, because I had this conversation with my dad too because he was like, oh, yeah
People are saying it's aliens and whatever and I was like well aliens. That's
If you believe the Bible or if you claim to believe the Bible you can't believe in a no
You know if there were aliens on some planet light years away, why did God send Jesus here exactly?
You know, why wouldn't God ever mention that he made all these other people right on these other planets
Yeah, you know forgot so loved the world this world, right, you know, so I
Mean even for a lot more reasons
but I've heard I've heard people try to use the Bible to justify the aliens exist because of the visions that Ezekiel saw and
the
You know the terminology the Bible uses and the wording
But it's it's so far-fetched to think that there are some other created beings and here's the thing more often than not people
Will state that aliens because they believe in aliens. Well, these are actually creators, you know, they were here from it
They were here millions of years ago
And that's how we came about and they create all these crazy
You know theories of how we came to life. I mean Joe Rogan who's a pretty popular podcast guy believes in aliens
I mean
he believes
The aliens exist and that we're communicating with them already and all these things and people follow that guy and they fall into that
Trap of nonsense, you know
But you can't be a Bible believe in Christian and believe in aliens just bottom line and some people they want to justify
They want to say they don't believe in aliens, but they kind of do so they try to choose the safe ground
I was like, well, it's demons. They look like aliens or something, you know
but folks, I mean
If that's you don't be offended what I just said, you know, they don't demons don't operate at that level
You know, what are they doing there? Anyway, exactly. Well, it's a spaceship. What are they? What do they got to do up there?
You know demon exactly. Well, he's all the power of the air
Right, you know people say like that but it's
you know, obviously this is what I believe when it comes to demons, okay is
Demons
influence
The powers of this world the authorities of this world to carry out a satanic
nefarious agenda, right
They don't they they'll give up they'll empower them by giving them authority, but they don't give them into technology
Men create technology, right? We create things
We have the ability to create things because God has given us that mind to be able to do so, right?
And so there are human beings in this world who are very talented
Who have a lot of ingenuity their creators as we're creating his image exactly. So therefore we go. Yeah, so therefore we create
What Satan does is he seeks out the creators of this world to influence them to turn those creations into something to become
Inventors of evil things as the Bible puts it. You see what I'm saying?
So I don't think people are communicating with demons to learn technology
I think some people are just endowed with a lot of knowledge and
Creativity and Satan seeks those people out by giving them a bad intention. Yeah, or
Authority right power because power corrupts
you know, I mean and
So, you know and and the proof of that is this is that if if demons were?
Giving human beings technology then why does he just give everyone technology, you know the knowledge of technology
I'll tell you why because of the fact that not everyone's a creator. So that's that's why he chooses these
People of authority or clout or influence and they rule over them, you know
They possess them because inventions are not evil, you know
People want to say like a phone is evil or something or you know, I don't know. The internet is evil
It's not these are honest or anything. Yeah, but there's people who believe that
This can be used for good things
It's the people who use it who can who can very much take it into an evil
Avenue and do wicked things with it, you know, so
Who knows what's going on with those uaps? It's a new technology
They move very fast
Okay
and
These pilots are coming out and they're just like I don't think they're aliens. I just think they're just
advanced technology and you know, we just don't know what it is, but it's causing such a stir that the government or the the
the Senate is
basically saying all right
You need to create a report or come up with a report and report on this and let me know what this is
They're saying this to who they're asking you who to make this for the I don't know them
military or something the government or something and you know
Cuz I'm not familiar with this whole thing are all of these sightings and all of these videos or whatever
Oh, they all taken place over our country. They all together over America. Yes, they are
I'm sure there's their sightings in other places
But all of these ones that are being talked about these videos
They're coming out with are from our area and they'll say, you know
Cuz they'll show the videos and this is the worst thing about this is that the videos are always bad
Always pixelated right it's radar and you just like a circle or something
But they they claim that they have better video of these uaps like 50 feet away
But they don't want to release that
It's nonsensical and it's unfortunate because I'm telling you just a lot of people are gonna take that and they're gonna run with it and say
Aliens exist and I think sometimes even things like this can turn more people away from God because it's like well
Here's fact we've seen aliens we haven't seen God and that that's the thing though
Also because those people they say that and they say all well aliens are real
Therefore the Bible can't be true because they know that the two can't mix right so someone who tries to make right to mix them
Yeah, they're on the wrong side of both, you know, they're they make no sense at all. Even someone who's yeah
Yeah, I'm not involved in it at all can say well, yeah the Bible and aliens obviously don't mix right
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if 10 15 years from now we just have like a new form of technology
I mean, then we go from horses to
Vehicles, I mean try explaining a vehicle to like someone in the Bible times, right? Like what?
It's kind of exponential growth too. Yeah, because I mean so much has happened
there was you know, how many thousands of years before where the developments in technology were really minimal, you know stuff like
architecture and
Primitive forms of engineering and all that but you know, whatever in the last century we've gone from
So little to so much and it's all accelerating because if we can use the technology itself to create more, right? So
Yeah, and it is exponential because when it comes to things of the internet or just computers
It doesn't grow gradually. It's very exponential like it just it's it's uh, it speeds up more
That's why it's not hard to think to believe that
The New World Order could be around right around the corner
The entire could be right around the corner because of the fact that the technology is just getting so advanced
You know you you
50 years ago if you're talking about the mark of the beast people would say it's like a tattoo that says
666 on your arm or on your forehead, right? But now we can see it would be more of like a technology
Technological chip that's implanted in your right hand or in your forehead, you know, but anyways, yeah, I thought that was interesting
Maybe you can shoot over that video of your dad. I'll see if I can find it. See if you can get it
Yeah, he's uh, he should be back. He was on a trip
Wherever he's been flying all over the place. Yeah on work ation
He goes to all these fancy places in this airplane and just he sends me videos. He's like, huh?
I'm at work and he's just walking on the beach. There's like these crystal blue waters and everything. Oh like video call him
And I'm like like four in the morning cuz over there I have to call him at four in the morning
Yeah, because of a huge time difference and I'm just like a wreck, you know started my day
He's either the blue beach. Yeah, just in the dark and you know, the video opens up and he's just sitting there
There's like a bunch of yachts behind him. He's like, this is my room and I'm like man. Wow. Yeah, that's pretty cool. But
He doesn't even like it. He's always away. He doesn't get to see his kids and stuff. So yeah
Yeah
But yeah, see if you can get that video
And I know we'll shoot that on the on the broad of iron podcast if you guys saw it on here already
That means we got it before John got it to us before we get it tonight. Yeah, I'll be good
You should we I can post it tomorrow or something. I can put it on the video tomorrow. Yeah, well brother John
Thank you so much for being here. Really appreciate is there anything else you want to talk about?
No, I mean I exhausted all the stuff. I wanted to talk about last well
Yeah, you talked about airplanes the monastery and all that. So hey, I was glad to have you on here, man
We talked about some pretty interesting things good conversational is so amen folks. Well, thank you so much for tuning in to the rod of iron
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