Thanks for joining us for a special election stream.
I've got my McDonald's fries and McDonald's Coke.
And so we're going to be kicking off the stream in high fashion.
I've got my Make America Drake again shirt on and we're going to be watching as the results
come in live tonight.
Also we're going to be bringing on special guests this evening.
So we're going to be bringing in all kinds of different people and just they may join
here and there and really what I kind of even told them is I said, "Hey, you can talk about
whatever you want."
And so we will be talking about the election.
We'll be updating you.
We may even watch a couple of different streams and everything like that.
But I also want to just really leave the floor open.
We can talk about anything in the Bible, talk about future events, talk about what's
going to happen.
I know four years ago I had said that if Trump loses that they're going to come after Christians
pretty hard for the next four years.
And I have to say, I feel like that really did kind of come true, especially for our
church steadfast.
Do you remember last year, or not last year, I'm sorry, last cycle about four years ago,
me saying something like this, Brother Ben?
I can confirm you did state that prediction and over the last four years, yeah, we definitely
have had some opposition from the sodomites, from everyone you can think of, so it appears
that it came true, but regardless of that, I think at the end of the day, we have the
Lord Jesus Christ on our side, we have God on our side, if God be for us, who can be
against us?
Well, this year, we're sponsored by McDonald's, and so-
I'm a horrible influence on you.
I think that that- I mean, I'm just trying to represent the America spirit with some
fries, so Donald Trump was serving these, and I felt like we should just bring them
on the show. You got some fries, you got to try them for me. How are they?
I was eating them.
Is this representative of America?
They're still warm. The thing is, once they get cold, no longer good, so you got to eat
them while they're warm.
It looks like we already have one of our guests joining us for this evening stream, and we'll
be putting the live results up on the board when we have them too, but- and I don't know,
do we have another- maybe we just go to a full screen view for our guests, but we have
Pastor Steven Anderson coming on. How's it going?
What's up, man? How you doing?
Doing good. Do you have any McDonald's fries?
No, I didn't, I didn't get the memo about bringing those. Sorry.
So you know, obviously you care so much about elections.
I can tell. He's so- look how nervous Pastor Anderson looks right now. He is waiting with
bated breath for the results of the election tonight.
That's why I'm here, Johnny on the spot, beginning of the show. I'm so excited. It's a big night
for me.
So just give us some early predictions here. What are your thoughts about the election?
Do you have any inkling of what's going to happen tonight?
Well, I think that there's been a lot of push for high voter turnout. There are always these
big pushes like trying to get everybody out to vote and all this. And I think that the
higher the turnout, the more that helps the Democrats. Because if you think about it,
the Republicans are probably just responsible enough that if they want to vote, if they
believe in the process, they're going to show up and they're going to vote. They're going
to have the character to get down there without somebody having to like beg them to vote or
pay them or give them a gift card or drag them down there. And so I think that in 2020,
there was like a record voter turnout or whatever. And then this time they're talking about there
being another record turnout because they're making it so easy for people to just mail
it in or whatever. And I think that that definitely helps the Democrats. But there's a lot of
energy. For Trump. So I don't know. I heard this rumor that you fully endorsed Kamala
Harris and your preaching. What's that about? That actually is. That is true. Yes. Well,
all I was just saying is that, you know, our country's so messed up and I was so irritated
and frustrated with a lot of the feminist garbage and our churches and everything that
I just felt like Kamala Harris is kind of the president that Christians deserve right
now since they won't take a stand on what the Bible says about a lot of things, but
especially about, you know, roles within marriage, feminism, stuff like that.
So I just said that, you know, that that's probably the president that we deserve.
I don't really care who wins at the end of the day.
You know, I'm going to be fine and God's going to bless us regardless because all things
work together for good to those who love God.
And so I'm not too stressed out about it.
Now, I'm kind of interested, like what would you do differently?
Like tomorrow, if it's Kamala or Trump, how is your day going to be any different tomorrow?
Well, no matter what, this Sunday I'm preaching about Armenia because it's our missions conference.
But the week after that, if Kamala gets elected, I'm going to preach a sermon called The Great
Whore.
So that's really the only way it's going to affect me.
If Kamala gets elected, I'm preaching the sermon called The Great Whore.
The problem is, because I'm preaching on Armenia this Sunday, I'm sure all my past friends
are going to beat me to it and preach all those sermons.
So I'm going to be like a week late on that.
But if Trump gets elected, I don't really have a special sermon in mind.
So I think that's the biggest...
Well, I have some good news because here's the thing.
If Kamala wins, it might be drug out for a week or two before it becomes final anyways.
So then you get that buffer because y'all are having your missions conference.
You've had this a couple times already.
Tell us about your missions conferences coming up.
Yeah, I'm super excited about it.
It starts tomorrow night and the cool thing about this is that we feature new countries
every single time.
So we don't talk about the same country twice and then also we talk about only missions
that have happened in the last 12 months.
So everything's fresh, everything's new.
That way it doesn't just feel like we're on to the same conference over and over again
year after year.
So that's what I like about it.
And I just have always loved geography.
I love missions.
So it's fun talking about these other parts of the world, learning about different countries.
And it's just super exciting to hear about all the great soul winning that's happened.
It's inspiring.
So yeah, those that are listening, you can tune in to the live streams, Arizona time.
It's going to be 10.30 a.m. in the morning, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
And then it's going to be Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday
at 7 p.m.
So yeah, a lot of great sermons to tune into.
But, you know, back to the election, you know what I think?
Just to kind of fantasize about like, you know, what could make voting better or make
our country better.
What I was saying earlier is that the voter high voter turnout tends to favor the Democrats
because, like I said, the Republicans are more like responsible people that are more
likely to like get out there on the right day and vote and do whatever.
But if you think about it, like here are some suggestions that I think would make voting
better in the United States.
Like how about this?
How about you have to pay to vote a poll tax?
Okay.
Think about how great this would be.
Just charge $10 to vote or $20 to vote.
Okay.
And it goes into the U.S. Treasury.
So it's just a federal tax to pull.
It's like the only tax that I want to see added.
You pay 20 bucks to vote because then you'd actually have to care a little bit to vote.
And you wouldn't just have derelicts who don't even know what's going on just voting for
something that they don't even understand, right?
So you charge 20 bucks to vote.
Anybody who can't afford the 20 bucks is probably not smart enough to be voting anyway.
And so...
Well, I mean, I think historically in voting, you had to be a male, you had to be a land
owning citizen, and you had to be able to read and write, and to me, like all three
of those, especially in today's age, would probably accomplish the same thing that you're
saying without necessarily the $10 tax just because by owning property, you're paying
property taxes, you're paying some of this.
If they just want to tack on $10 to your property tax for this or whatever, then that's fine,
but I don't know that it would...
It seems like there could be some corruption there if you had to literally show up with
the $10 or something like that, but I do think that something needs to change.
Again, I don't know what's the best policy or the best system.
Obviously, some people think a king or some people think whatever, but obviously this
system has lasted several hundred years.
I don't think that necessarily even the way that our government is structured is bad.
It's mostly just that it's not being enforced correctly, that the laws aren't necessarily
being applied equally, that we've had a lot of bad amendments attached and added to our
government is just my personal opinion.
I think that if you had just land-owning men that could read and write voting in our country,
it would probably be a lot different.
I don't know what you think about that kind of a suggestion.
Yeah.
I mean, the only thing about the land-owning though is that obviously you have a lot of
responsible, hardworking, intelligent people that don't necessarily own land.
And so I think that that might be a little bit too extreme of a requirement.
That's why I felt like my poll tax was a little more reasonable, but I do agree with that.
Yeah, but I definitely agree with the idea of men who can read and write being the ones
that are voting.
It should be the bare minimum requirement, I think.
But here's another thing that you could do, even just that would be less extreme, because
I personally do believe that in 2020 there was a lot of fraud that went on.
It's kind of funny when they say, "Oh, there's no evidence of fraud," because there were
all kinds of things that came out in the open that were fraudulent, whatever you think about
whatever happened in 2020.
But one thing that I think should be obvious is that if you're going to mail in a vote,
because it seems like the greatest potential for fraud is with the mailed in votes.
So it seems like how about if you just have to get it notarized, that it's really you,
then it seems like that would prevent a lot of fraud because you'd have to go down to
a bank or go down to a notary or, you know, go anywhere that notarizes, mailboxes, etc.
or whatever.
And you could go down and show your ID, get it notarized, and then send it in.
Because otherwise, what's to stop me from just getting my hands on a bunch of ballots
and just sitting down and just filling out 10 of them?
Yeah.
I don't really like, I don't really love mail-in ballots at all.
I kind of like, I think we've talked about this before, I think just no mail-in is probably
just the best.
I agree with you.
So I agree with you that it'd be best to just get rid of it.
But I'm saying if you're going to have it, require it to be notarized.
Obviously, getting rid of it is better because like, oh, we got to have an absentee ballot
because people are gone.
Yeah.
But for every Republican that's gone, there's going to be a Democrat that's gone.
It's probably just going to kind of balance out anyway, you know?
So I agree with you, get rid of the absentee ballots, get rid of the mail-in ballots.
But if you're going to have the mail-in ballot, at least if you had to get it notarized, that
would cut down on a lot of fraud.
And again, I'm just fooling up as many obstacles as possible to voting.
Like the harder it is to vote, the better the results are going to be because then it
would be people who actually care and that actually have thought about things and whatever.
You know, so making the polling places be a little further away, you got to pay a little
bit of money.
You know, the more obstacles, the better as far as I'm concerned.
I agree, but to some degree, I think people would argue about feudalism if you started
getting like really, really stringent on like all the different requirements of the only
the sophisticated, educated.
Here's what had turned it all feudal.
No, no, no.
Here's what had turned it all feudal.
Yeah, but here's the thing.
If we didn't have like an economic disaster and high interest rates and whatever, most
people could probably afford buying a property if they were trying, if they wanted to or
tried to.
And to me, if you have these requirements, number one, only men make sense because only
men should be required to go to war, to be drafted or put on the front line.
So they have to make decisions that affect them directly.
Additionally, by being able to read and write, those who are going to basically uphold society,
those are they're going to actually take care of legal things and medical things and whatever.
They have to be able to read and write.
They need to be able to have a vested interest.
And then those who are land owning, whatever laws are passed are going to affect them more
directly than people that may be just migrating, traveling through, sojourning, not owning
any kind of property.
So to me, all of those things have a direct attachment to why they should have a greater
opportunity to vote or they have the reason to vote because these things directly affect
them.
And then it makes people, if they really want to change something, hey, I need to own property,
I need to educate myself.
And again, I think we'd still have a large electorate, we'd still have a large group
of people voting, but we would still have a lot less than we do today.
And so we wouldn't have to worry about it taking so long, we should be able to count
all the ballots on the day that it happens, one day, paper ballot, count the ballots.
And I think that when people have, they don't feel disenfranchised, like I just feel disenfranchised
in general from voting, and I feel like it doesn't really matter, I don't have much
of a say, these things aren't that important.
And I think when you give men back the power, and talk about being against feminism, when
you give back men the power to rule our country and our nation, like I think that we could
see some dramatic differences.
I think abortion wouldn't even be legal anywhere.
I think that abortion would probably be illegal across our country.
I think that we wouldn't jump into wars the way that we are.
I think that the economic policies would be more favorable to business owners and just
general economic prosperity as a nation when those who own that property are the ones that
are having to deal with this.
Again, with the Bible system, you have Jubilee, which always resets things and affords people
to have a starting chance again.
We don't have that in America, but we do have regulations.
Supposedly, you're supposed to break up monopolies.
You're supposed to put some kind of limits, like Google shouldn't be able to own YouTube.
Certain technologies that get really tightly coupled, like Apple has its phone, Apple
has its software, Apple has the App Store, and it's all locked down, and you're forced
to use all their software, their technology, their device.
That really causes these horrible monopolies that stop entrepreneurship.
I've seen there's lawsuits out there to stop Apple from preventing creators from
having their own apps on an iPhone that they could then create apps and put them on the
phone.
Right now, it's locked into the App Store, and then the App Store charges 30% or something
like that.
Again, you start getting these monopolies where wealth just gets really disproportionately
put in the hands of certain small groups of people.
I don't think that just by making the voting class being just land-owning in general, that
would necessarily create as bad of a feudal system as maybe we've had in Europe or in
other parts of the world historically.
I do think that it's pretty reasonable.
Maybe the government could have buying assistance programs and certain things like that to help
people buy a small property to get started.
I just think in general, I agree with you that the requirement to let just these 18-year-old
girls who don't even know anything, to go in there and vote for our nation, they may
not even be able to read and write.
It's just kind of insane.
And we see that they don't know what they're doing.
Yeah.
Here's the bottom line.
It's just that if every single person in America voted, then Kamala Harris would for
sure win.
You know, that's just kind of the way it is.
Let's put some of the elections.
I don't know if we can put that on the screen.
The less people vote, it usually goes better for conservatives.
You know what I mean?
The turnout is typically for the liberals.
Not president.
Wow.
Pastor Anderson.
I wish.
President Anderson, did you write him in?
Did you vote today and write in President Anderson?
We've had a long day, folks.
I'm going to botch a lot over the next couple of hours here.
You're going to have to bear with me.
Pastor Anderson, I'm curious with that statement you just made, so in your mind then, most
of America leans left?
Yes, I believe so.
I think that there are more liberals and more Democrats in general, but I think that more
Republicans tend to actually get out and do the voting.
Just to kind of support what I'm saying, whenever you look at who is pushing these high turnout
things, like we've got to get people out voting and stuff, it's usually paid for always by
a liberal cause or a left-wing cause.
Just yesterday I saw a sign talking about it like, "Hey, you need to vote and don't
be this guy who stays home," whatever, and it's paid for by and it was some super liberal,
super left-wing cause, and it almost always is.
Whenever there's a push to just, "Hey, it doesn't matter who you vote for, but just
get out there and vote," it's usually a left-wing push because of the fact that if everyone
votes, it's going to go more left because the liberals in general, left-wing people
in general are probably less likely to actually get out there and do it because it's a lot
of derelicts and stuff that just aren't even going to get down there.
You know what I mean?
Obviously, there are responsible people and derelicts on both sides, but I'm saying in
general, when there's a low turnout, it's better for conservatives.
When there's a high turnout, it's better for liberals because I do think that the general
population leans more left than the actual number of people who vote.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
I just think that the Republican Party is no longer Republican and so that may not be
completely true because to me, Donald Trump is a Democrat.
If I were to really just look at his policies, his positioning himself, the things that he
stands for, he seems like a Democrat and really the left is just extreme.
So I think that Donald Trump is appealing to a lot broader base of independents and
maybe even a few Democrats than would normally be the case.
I think that's why he's so dangerous to those in power, those in control, the Democratic
position and party because they in general have counted on a lot of these people voting
for them that Donald Trump is appealing to because he has such liberal policies.
I saw, I know your best friend, James White, he made this comment and I actually liked
it though.
He said that typically towards the end of an election, you see both candidates moving
towards the middle because they're trying to get those like independent voters at the
last moment and they're kind of like maybe pandering the other side, coming back a little
bit.
And it seemed like the Democrats weren't doing that at all.
It seemed like they were just like even getting more extreme, more weird.
And whereas Trump was getting much more liberal-
Are you talking about in this election?
Yeah, in this election.
It seemed like Trump was getting-
I thought I'd been hearing, it seemed like, because I don't really follow politics admittedly,
but the one thing I did do was I believe that I watched part of the debate between Trump
and Kamala Harris that happened a while back, and it seemed like she was trying to say a
lot of conservative things.
And it seemed like a lot of the ads that were coming up on my YouTube and stuff-
No, that's probably true because she copied a couple of his positions.
Yeah, she was copying a lot of his positions, and then it seemed like she was saying a lot
of things about how she's not going to raise taxes and how she's going to support the middle
class and all this kind of stuff.
I don't know, it sounded like there was a lot of conservative sounding stuff coming
out of her mouth, so I think that she probably was doing that.
One of the things that I talked about in my sermon, I think it was this Sunday morning,
was just the Orwellian signs all over Phoenix, which was kind of annoying to me.
Where there were just so many signs where it's like, Democrats for Trump, Republicans
for Harris, and it was just so weird.
I'm trying to remember what the other Orwellian signs were, but it was all these kind of backward
things.
Oh yeah, the other one that I thought was funny was, it's a picture of Kamala Harris
and it's saying, "A new way forward," and I'm thinking, you're the incumbent.
You're the vice president right now, and your party is in power in the White House, so how
is voting for the party that's already in power, how is that a new way forward?
It just seemed like all of the advertisements were like the opposite of reality, like conservatives
are for Harris and liberals are for Trump and Kamala is the new way forward.
It's just like weird advertising.
Well, just to give everybody a recap, because I know you're wanting to know a little bit
about the election, I'm on the APNews.com and they have essentially just kind of this
map of the United States.
They say that so far, they've kind of ruled that 99 electoral college votes have been
secured for Kamala, 177 for Trump.
And here's kind of some of the breakdown.
Of course, they've already given, actually, if you go down here to this list, it kind
of tells you which states, but Indiana for Trump, Kentucky for Trump, South Carolina
for Trump, Vermont for Harris, Ohio, they've already given it to Trump, West Virginia to
Trump, Alabama.
None of this is shocking.
Yeah, most of this is pretty respected.
Connecticut.
Florida used to swing back and forth, now it's a solid red state.
Yeah, Connecticut for Harris, Delaware for Harris, Florida.
Ohio is not a swing state, it has been historically, but-
It's Don Trump, this is the third time in a row now.
So they only have 58% of the votes counted, but they already have almost like nine points
ahead.
It's been called.
Texas was called too, by the way.
Yeah.
Oh, shocker.
Texas was called?
That map that you just showed a second ago, it's interesting how when you actually look
at a map of an individual state, how almost all counties will be Republican, and then
it's only the big cities that are liberal.
When you look at Illinois has already been called-
Yeah, rural areas are not liberal.
Yeah.
When you look at Illinois has already been called for Harris, but that's probably mainly
just driven by Chicago.
If you look at California, for example, yeah, you have the liberal big cities, but then
there are just so many counties that are just all going to be Republican.
Yeah, obviously the California results aren't in yet, but you just popped up one state or
other and it was just like all red except a couple of counties that were the big cities.
We can look at Illinois.
Well, and here's the thing.
That almost signifies, again, my idea of landowning.
Think about how many people in Chicago don't own anything and think about all these rural
people owning all this land.
It would totally shift how things work, but, you know, I mean, and in a lot of ways that
people would be like, "Oh, I don't want to be ruled over by a bunch of rich oligarchs
or something," but, you know, again, tons of people own just a small little piece of
land somewhere randomly, and, again, I'm not saying that's a perfect system.
I'm just saying I think that it makes sense, and I think that it would be way better than
what it has.
Yeah, but let's say I didn't own land.
Let's say that I didn't own land so that I'm like, "Oh, this isn't fair because I don't
vote because I don't own a house," or, "I'm not a homeowner and only homeowners are allowed
to vote," or whatever.
But here's the thing.
I wouldn't really feel that way as long as the outcome's going the way that I want it
to go.
Right.
I wouldn't just be like, "I want to do it.
I want to get to do it," like a little kid or something that they want to pour the sugar
into the recipe that mom's making or something.
You know what I mean?
Once you become an adult, you're just like, "I don't care who pours the ingredients into
the bowl.
I just want to eat the cookies when they come out of the oven."
Whereas a little kid's like, "I got to do it.
I want to do it."
At the end of the day, I wouldn't care if I were not allowed to vote as long as the
right government's being put in, as long as people are being put in.
I will say this.
The American system has obviously been super successful.
I believe that America is the greatest country that has ever existed in the history of planet
Earth in any period.
I think that America's success is unprecedented, and the fact that it's lasted for what, almost
250 years now, using pretty much the same constitution, I think that the problems that
we're having right now is not necessarily the constitution.
It's more the way it's being interpreted, the way it's being executed, the way it's
being violated, and some of the amendments that have come about later.
I think that the original system was and still is a great system and there's a lot of good
things to be said for it.
Back to what I was saying earlier about the whole voter turnout thing, what I see happening
in the future is that it's all becoming electronic and you don't even go to a polling place.
It's just an app.
It's just an app on your phone.
It's bad though.
It needs to be paper.
And if it's that easy where you're just doing it from your phone, doing it from your computer,
even if you like the fraud factor and just say that there's a way to just make it totally
secure and encrypted and it's for sure fair and people from both sides are monitoring
it, blah, blah, blah.
Even if you take out the cheating factor, just making it that easy where some slob can
just kind of roll over and just kind of belch and just kind of push a button on his phone
to vote, you know, is going to make it go more liberal than if you have to actually
like drive somewhere or walk somewhere and show up on a certain day at a certain time
and you have to be sober and awake and coherent, you know, that's going to make it more conservative
the harder it is to vote.
Yeah.
I'm looking at some of these comments.
Let's just do a poll.
We'll just do a poll on my suggestion.
Trade Selector asked a question about your suggestion.
I'm going to answer.
We got some questions in here.
Number one, they said the largest farm owner in the United States has been to Epstein Island
34 times, talking about Bill Gates.
But see, here's the thing, Bill Gates could own a million acres or something like that
and he still only gets one vote, whereas one person owns just a small portion of land and
they still get the same vote.
It's not necessarily just going to go in the favor of just all these rich people.
You could see these rich people trying to buy land for all their buddies or something
like that, the small little tiny part of the land and really rig this election or something.
For the most part, I think it's a decent idea.
I'm not saying that it's perfect.
Maybe there's some way to get around it, but maybe we can just ...
When you say owning land or owning property, you just mean if somebody just owns a house.
That's enough, right?
Yeah.
There's some dirt attached to them.
You could own a condo.
You could own a little condo.
You could own a house.
You could own a townhome.
You could own anything.
You could have property and just have a trailer on it.
You could just own a piece of land with literally nothing.
It could be raw land.
It's just showing this person has a vested interest in that particular area.
Maybe to qualify it, maybe it would be that you own land that's your primary dwelling.
So then maybe you have to basically live on the property.
Yeah, I think my $20 poll tax is just way simpler and kind of accomplished almost the
same thing.
I don't see that it, I just don't really like it personally, but can, let me see, is
our crew-
I don't see this one up to 20 bucks, man.
Well I just, I think that they're going to just have all these like Zucker bucks or whatever
giving money to all these people in the poor neighborhoods to go run and vote and it wouldn't-
Okay, fine.
It wouldn't change anything necessarily.
If they do that, it's fine.
Okay, well then, okay, then it's got to be 100 bucks then.
I already don't want to vote, you're making it so I'll never want to vote ever.
Whereas, I feel like if it's men that can read and own land, I probably would vote
every single time.
Well, ironically, I'll only vote if I have to pay to do it.
That's hilarious.
Let's just make it a million dollars.
No, I mean, look, it's not about being rich, it's just my point is you would have to actually
care.
Yeah, you're weeding out idiots.
You're weeding out people who are just complete derelicts who don't care, who aren't paying
any attention.
Look, but even so, even just if you could just get rid of the stupid mail-in ballots,
that would fix a lot or at least make it to where you have to get it notarized because
anybody who really wants to vote could take it down and get it notarized.
Really just almost anything would make an improvement because I'm pretty sure California
had passed a law recently saying you don't even have to ask for ID now.
If they just show up, they're a warm body, you can just get them to vote.
You can't even ask them for ID.
So, like, I mean, almost anything would make sense more than what we're doing right now.
I know that a lot of mail-in ballots, you're supposed to do a signature match, and that
makes sense.
Like, you go down to register, you sign, and then when you vote, your signature has a match,
that signature that's on file, and they have someone checking out.
So in theory, yeah, they're supposed to be doing signature matching.
So like, what they do is they have, it comes on the screen and they have a Republican and
a Democrat on both sides, and then they have the poll worker, and then they all have to
agree, and then when they agree, then it just, it gets counted.
So in theory, that's what's happening, but last cycle, they were saying that they were
kicking the Republicans out, so then there was only a Democrat and a poll worker watching,
and then they just did mass approvals of just like, they were just doing signature match
and they said they had like something crazy, like a thousand that they had approved in
a matter of like 20 minutes or something like this, or they were approving like a thousand
per 20 minutes, so they're like, so this means that they were looking at the screen for less
than one second every single time, and it was just like, it was pretty obvious that
they were showing how they were just clicking through, through, through, through, through.
In the middle of the night, when they brought in all these ballots that didn't match any
of the signatures, and they even had like the exact same signature for every single
one of the ballots or something like that.
So, I mean, where there's a will, there's a way.
I mean, if you want to cheat, you're going to cheat.
I mean, I don't really know.
So I was looking at the, I was looking at these results that are coming in, like the
states that have been called or where the leads are or whatever, and then what I was
doing is I was kind of comparing it to like the 2020 map, because I guess what you're
looking for is things that change between 2020 and 2024.
And so it looks like back in 2020, Biden won in Virginia and Georgia, but right now
it's showing that Trump is ahead in Virginia and Georgia.
They called Virginia for Harris.
Oh, okay.
So scratch that then.
I must be looking at something.
I must be looking at something that's outdated then.
Who's they?
I'm on Google and it shows that it is- I'm on the Associated Press.
Jews maybe?
I don't know.
But are you, Ben, where are you getting your information because I'm looking at the Associated
Press thing.
We're trying to fact-check you and we're struggling.
I saw it on X.
Well, because I'm showing that Virginia is showing a lead for Trump as well as Georgia,
but you know.
Let me see.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Let me fact-check myself.
The Associated Press has 50% of the votes counted.
Trump's up 2% approximately.
Like 1.9 it looks like.
Were you talking about the popular vote?
No.
I'm talking about Virginia specifically.
Oh.
I'm sorry.
Virginia.
Oh yeah.
I see.
I'm sorry.
I wasn't looking at the screen.
I refreshed the page.
I'm not sure.
I mean, maybe the Associated Press is behind on the data, but.
Oh.
Yeah.
Maybe I was wrong.
Yeah.
I'm looking at the same data that you are with the Shelly, so.
I mean, as much as I can understand it, it seems like, and it's weird to say, but it
seems like Pennsylvania is the deciding state.
So whatever happens with Pennsylvania.
I mean, is that really true?
I thought that's just a super liberal state.
It is.
Well, it's kind of like a toss up, but I mean.
Well, hold on.
So Trump won in 2016.
Yes, he won in '16.
So.
Then they stole it from him.
Did he do Pennsylvania?
Did he lose?
He lost Pennsylvania in 2020.
But he, but he did get it in 2016?
Yeah.
He got it in '16.
So as far as I can understand, Pennsylvania is one of the most important.
I'm not saying that it's for sure like a guaranteed lock in, but I think that it's like probably
one of the most.
Uh, it looks like we got another, uh, another guy joining us as this evening, brother Dylan
Oz from Oklahoma, the red state, Hey brother, how's it going?
Can we bring him on?
Oh, we can't hear you.
Hey, I apologize.
I gave false information earlier about Virginia.
I apologize.
We're having McDonald's difficulties.
And so, uh, just, just wait, just one more moment.
My crew will let me know.
Brother Oz is going to join us, though, from Oklahoma.
He personally voted for every Republican.
No, I'm just kidding.
I don't know.
I'm just making stuff up.
Oklahoma went, uh, for Trump in a real shocking result.
So did Texas.
Yeah.
You know, what is, what is that?
I'm not sure, uh.
Well, it's funny what the, what the percentage of talent that I've paid attention to, Texas,
when the results start coming in, starts out really light blue and everyone panics.
And then, you know, as more votes come in, then it turns red.
Hey, Brother Oz, can you hear us?
Yes, I can.
Good to see y'all.
Thanks for joining.
How's it going?
It's going good.
Just absolutely shocking that Oklahoma is red.
I know it's red.
We're just talking about that.
It's just mind-blowing.
Now, you know, what is your prediction for this evening?
As, as we have people on the show, I want to kind of just get an early, early forecast.
What are your thoughts?
What's going to happen?
You know, I'll be honest, the last two or three months, I really have not followed this
at all.
But if I just had to guess, just kind of the sickening feeling in my gut, I feel like the
communist whore will become the next president.
Not that I want that, but it just, it seems like that's the way our country is going.
And so that certainly would not surprise me one bit.
This is obviously the best live stream for election coverage.
When we ask our guests, they're like, I don't follow anything in the election, I don't care
at all whatsoever.
It's like all of our guests-- Yeah, my wife compared this to a cooking show by men who
don't cook.
Yes.
That's what's happened, because I personally will also say I've paid zero attention to
any of this, especially for the last few months.
I don't know what's going on politically, so this is great.
I'm going to say the opposite of Dillon.
I'm predicting a Trump victory.
There we go.
All right.
So we got some spices.
Now, I'm going to put Dillon on the hot seat here for a moment.
I'm saying Trump as well.
All right, Dillon, I'm going to give you a test here.
We're going to change our election laws.
One side, we just, you have to pay $20 to vote.
That's the change.
The other change is it's only men, land owning people who can read and write.
You have to pick which, which one, which election change are you going to make?
Clearly you have to be, you know, the white slave owning, no, I'm just kidding.
Honestly, I, I don't have super strong feelings about that.
I do know a lot of really smart, intelligent, godly people that aren't landowners that I
feel like would give better contributions to our country, even though they're not landowners
and the 20 bucks seems like an easier bar of entry for them.
So I would probably lean more towards that direction, but just anything making it more
difficult to vote for everybody in general, I'm for, for sure.
Just, it's just so easy to have people turn on you, Ben.
You know, I'm just kidding.
We should do a hybrid where it's the, it's the man who can read and write and they gotta
pay 20 bucks.
Okay.
And then we get rid of the home ownership.
So we're substituting land ownership for a 20 dollar fee.
I can, I can at least compromise.
Like I'm okay with that.
I still, I would still say I kind of lean in my direction, but if it's just men who
can read and write and it's 20 bucks, I would sign up for that right.
I thought it was men on both sides of this already.
I thought that was a given, men on both sides that could read and write.
That was not.
Is it?
Is it a given?
That was not the part of the arrangement, but that's fine.
Ben, where are you at, this Middle Easterner?
Whatever solution leads to a leftist never winning an election ever again, I'm fine with
it.
That's like a non-answer.
Just whatever solution leads to no Democrat president ever happening again, I'm fine with
that.
See, this is why I'm going back to my landowning because Ben doesn't own land and I don't like
how he just couldn't make a decision there.
You know, though, I did see a video that was really interesting.
It was Owen Schreuer of Infowars and he was on a college campus where he was just interviewing
Gen Z women and they were just saying that their only reason for voting was for abortion.
And I even hear this amongst my coworkers, amongst blue collar men, that like men should
never be deciding laws about a woman's body.
And I'm just thinking like, what if I told you every law virtually that exists is telling
you what you can and cannot do with your body, including the speed limits, including voting
laws.
It's like just such a stupid thing.
Yeah, obviously it's brain dead nonsense.
It's not even their body though.
My speed, my choice.
That's the biggest problem.
Exactly.
Right.
My speed, my choice.
It's not their body.
My car, my choice.
And every law regulates what you do with your body.
It's just so stupid.
My gun, my choice.
I'll give you, I'll give you a real answer.
In my mind, if you own land, you have, there's a lot more on the line for you.
And it does seem kind of unfair for somebody who's a landowner to have policy that impacts
them directly that they have no control over because a whole bunch of other people are
voting that have a lot less in the game.
So I would probably lean in the direction of being a male landowner, which would disqualify
me, but I don't care.
That's not an issue for me.
So that's probably where I lean.
Yeah, but I mean, I like Pastor Anderson's point on this because here's the thing.
Some people are disqualified in the sense of like not everybody could be a pastor, but
we all like, you know, having some standards because then just not any Yahoo.
So just there's a lot of people that may never be a pastor that still like there's some kind
of a standard.
So it could be like there's a lot of men that like there being a standard for voting, even
if you don't necessarily meet that requirement.
Like I think a lot of women agree with the 19th amendment being repealed, even though
that would mean they literally don't get to vote.
They're like, hey, I don't think that women make good decisions.
So hey, Pastor Thompson, how's it going?
Can you hear us?
Yeah, last time it was it was some technical difficulties and I apologize for a total of
30 seconds last time.
So yeah, we had like a whole stream for 30 seconds.
How's it going?
It's going great.
Yeah, I just got into 10b so Scott settled into the hotel and decided to jump on.
So everybody so far has admitted at least once that they pay no attention to politics,
haven't really been emotionally invested up to this point.
Maybe you can break that streak for us, Pastor Thompson.
What do you think?
Have you really been involved emotionally looking at this, really cared a lot about
this election thus far?
Well, it depends if I pay attention or not.
If I pay attention, I do get a little bit sucked in.
I'll admit it sometimes that it's hard because obviously I don't want some whore from Babylon,
literally Babylon running our country.
But at the same time, orange Jesus isn't really going to help us out too much either.
So my brother calls him, but I mean, obviously he's like one of the most prideful people
ever and the Republican party is way different than it used to be.
I mean, you got Hulk Hogan ripping his shirt off and, you know, Kid Rock coming out looking
geriatric on the stage and it's just, you know, the days of Ronald Reagan, I mean, even
Ronald Reagan was kind of out there back in the eighties, you know, you guys are a little
bit younger than I am, but I remember, I still remember Ronald Reagan, you know, the days
of Ronald Reagan and things were a lot more mellow.
I remember Don Rickles coming out and doing comedy sets and, you know, things have just
changed a lot since back then.
That's a good point, because Ronald Reagan is saying, as pious drudges, I'm going to
miss this quote now all of a sudden, as pious drudges.
Something about King James.
I know, I want to get this quote here, but.
Should be the King James, not modern versions.
Well, it says, man, I wish I lost this game.
Just pull up Preserved Bible.
I'll pull it up here in a second, but it's like, they're trying to find it, it's like,
it will not dawn on them that it has already been done right.
So he's advocating for the King James over the critical text, whereas he asked Donald
Trump a question.
He says, "I've never asked God for forgiveness."
I love all of them.
What Bible verse do you like?
I guess I like them all.
My favorite Bible is 2 Corinthians.
So obviously there's been a denigration of society, and so it's kind of frustrating
to see, you know, again, some people say like, well, at least he gives lip service to Jesus,
but it's hard to even count that as lip service at this point.
I mean, I don't know, I like some of Pastor Anderson's preaching from, I mean, long time,
I think it's like 2016 about Donald Trump, and basically making it clear he wasn't going
to vote for him back then, I don't know what's changed.
I don't think he's gotten more godly since then.
I like the old Pastor Anderson.
Yeah, that's who I like.
Yeah, I've never heard that before.
I'm just kidding.
You know, back to the abortion thing though, one thing I wanted to say was I saw this
ad yesterday and it was this guy, he's like, I'm 42 years old and I'm voting for Kamala
Harris because I want my daughter to have the right to choose.
Like think about how weird that is for a second.
The guy's literally saying like, I really want my daughter to have sex with some random
dude and just kill the baby.
So I'm voting for Kamala.
Super weird.
Like, I don't know who she's going to have sex with, but I just want her to be able to
kill the baby.
Kill my grandchild.
Like the dad is looking at his daughter saying, "I want her to be able to kill my grandchild."
It's bizarre.
So a man who votes for Kamala, what is it, like a faggot or something?
What do you guys think?
What's the demographic that's actually going out and voting for Kamala Harris?
It's fags, effeminates, and feminists.
It's one of those three.
Fags, effeminates, and feminists.
Take the E out of the beginning of the feminine, so it's just like fags, feminists, and feminists.
Gotta literate that sucker.
Yeah.
Her husband was wearing a jacket that said "second gentleman" on his coat.
Like when he was doing that interview, it was like, "Oh, come on, man."
It looks like we got some more West Coast representation now.
Pastor Mejia joined us.
How's it going, Pastor Mejia?
Good.
How are you guys doing?
Good.
How's it going?
Good.
Good to see you.
Did you get some McDonald's or what?
I'm on a cut right now.
Of course.
I just said a wicked thing before my eyes right now.
I covet that McDonald's, though.
I've been trying to get some early predictions here.
We've got varying opinions here.
What do you think is going to happen in this election?
Do you have any strong feelings?
Do you have any kind of inkling of what you think is going to end up transpiring?
No.
I mean, not really.
I mean, obviously, like, I guess you could say in my flesh, I would want Trump to be
the president because of the fact that I hate Kamala and, you know, Kamala would be the
cherry on top as far as the judgment of God upon our nation is concerned.
And we would basically be like Mexico, who also has a woman president.
And so, you know, in my flesh, that's what I would want.
But honestly, I don't really care.
But also in my flesh, I guess you could say, I would want Kamala to win just so, you know,
God's people can stop placing their faith in the White House and actually get right
with God and they get serious about the things of God.
And then I have, like, a lot of sermon material to preach on if she becomes president, you
know?
So…
So Pastor Mejia, you look like you're about ready to go to court and, like, file a suit
on behalf of Trump for election fraud.
Was the election, so I figured I would wear the Republican, you know, pastor type of outfit
on, you know?
I feel like he looks more like the enforcement.
He's kind of his L.A. branch of the Mafia or something.
I'm the West Coast Enforcer, yeah.
There we go.
He's the party whip.
Thanks for having me on the podcast that everyone is actually talking about.
Especially a few weeks ago.
You got to have the Baptist bias to want to watch our show.
We got lots of Baptists in the show.
This is all I want to say about that.
It doesn't matter.
We could caveat the crap out of something for like 10 straight minutes and we'll still
get heat for it.
It doesn't matter.
Maybe we should just stop doing that.
Well, you know, this is the show that it's not a fourth sermon of the week and so I think
I get a lot of interesting criticism for some of the things that we do.
But I apparently will invite anyone on my show as evidenced by the group that we have
assembled this evening.
And so there you go.
It's the Motley Crute.
This is for all of you guys.
What do you think would be some of the consequences if Kamala won?
It could be spiritual consequences, carnal consequences.
What do you guys think?
I think all the wives throughout the kingdom will be emboldened against their husbands.
I agree with that.
Yeah, it rewards whoredom.
I mean, she is a literal whore that slept her way to whatever position she's in.
And I think it just screams like feminism is successful, feminism rewards you.
You can be a whore and it does not stop you from achieving any goal.
But obviously she's a giant puppet.
No one voted for her.
She didn't win the Democratic nomination as far as her party.
The Democratic party didn't vote her in and nominate her.
And so she's a glorified puppet, which I think would signal to America how fake our
government is, how bad it is.
And this is what I would want to know, can Baptists finally admit we're being cursed
by God?
They always want to say that we're so blessed and everything's so great, but when you have
a woman president, at what point can you finally admit, "Okay, God must be mad at us.
We're doing something wrong as a nation."
So I don't know.
I think that that's, to me, the biggest message, is just like, "We're cursed of God."
I will say-
It's Deborah.
Yeah.
It's a judgment.
"We're cursed, ready for revival, we have Deborah, we're on our last chance."
Ben, give us some thoughts here.
Well, I would say that one positive, and Pastor Mejia already brought this up, is you probably
will see more Christians perhaps decide to take the things of God more seriously because
there is no hope in the White House at that point at all with Kamala Harris in there.
Additionally, I think you would see the LGBT agenda advanced even further, although of
course the argument can be made that's going to happen regardless since Donald Trump is
not at all anti-fag whatsoever.
But I think you're going to see that happen.
You're going to see feminists emboldened, etc.
It would be worse for sure, but you're going to see a lot of reprobates and satanic people
glorying and really happy and excited and celebrating.
But the positive is you might see some Christians actually, like I said, take the spiritual
warfare more seriously because there is no hope politically at that point.
Yeah, I think one of the things that I'm concerned about that really has been terrible under
this current administration is the weaponization of the criminal justice system.
And that is one thing that I think will continue to get worse if she does become president
because it just seems like the Democrats have no shame in persecuting people based on religion
or political views.
Whereas I feel like at least Trump, though he is a sleazy person, it seems like he's
not really willing to stoop that low to use power to even prosecute someone like Hillary
Clinton, which he could have done.
So I think that's one thing that could affect Christians and just regular Americans in general
in a really negative way if she wins.
Yeah, not to mention the saber rattling with Russia.
Who knows from a foreign policy perspective what kind of wars we end up getting sucked
into.
There's a lot of negatives, obviously.
So I think you made a great point, Pastor Shelley, about the fact that she's a literal
whore because she literally was appointed to her first political position by sleeping
with a married man that was like 20-some years older than her or whatever.
And so it kind of sends a message to little girls all over America, like, "Hey, you can
be whatever you want.
You can even be the president of the United States.
You just have to perform lewd acts to get there."
Because think about it, like, if Kamala gets elected, she's the first female president,
you know, like, somebody, if we ever have a female president, somebody's going to be
the first.
And just think about how sick it is that the first female president literally got there
by performing sex acts for an old man who was married to someone else.
Like, it's just, it's just this gross whore.
And it kind of sends a message that, like, that's how you succeed.
And there's already so much propaganda out there of, like, "Oh, you can just make porno
from home and have your little OnlyFans account."
You know, I mean, there's already all this crap out there trying to get girls to basically
weaponize their virtue and their bodies and everything like that.
And it just sends such a disgusting message that you can succeed and literally get to
the highest office in the land and succeed and prosper through being a literal whore.
I mean, what mess, like, what a role model for girls, huh?
And a stupid one at that.
Well, and you got the Disney princesses being whores is kind of like a precursor to this,
but she's way worse than anything that we've seen before.
You know, again, I think that our country doesn't really deserve grace or a righteous
leader considering how bad our country is as a whole.
But at the same time, I don't want that.
I don't wish that on our nation.
I'm not going to wish that we're cursed.
I think that even you could see Jeremiah and the apostle Paul wanting the best for their
nation even when they're at a really bad low.
But unfortunately, a couple of times, God's like, "Hey, don't pray for this nation anymore."
Or he's kind of like, "Hey, don't even wish for their good anymore because they're just
so bad."
And I'm wondering, could it get to a point?
And I'm kind of curious what you guys' thoughts are.
Could it get to a point where God's almost like saying, "Don't even pray for the good
of America anymore," or do you think that that's a pretty black-pilled viewpoint?
What do you think, Pazer Thompson?
Sorry, what was the question?
Could America get to a point?
He's already so black-pilled on America, he's like, "I don't even care."
I'm just kind of curious.
It's like a kid not paying attention in class, you're like, "What do you think about that?"
Do you think that America could get so bad that God would say like, "We shouldn't even
pray for as good anymore," kind of like he did with other nations in history?
Yeah.
I mean, we're kind of pretty close to being there, honestly.
I mean, obviously we've got a lot of Bible-believing people.
Even the ones that are, what I'm quoting, "Bible-believing," a lot of them are super
weak and they're harder preaching about the election than they are about the things that
actually matter, like soul-winning and where are they at when all the queers are taking
over?
They're like, "Oh, you should love them and invite them into your church and let
them use your bathroom," and whatever, and where are they when we're going through all
these fights?
They're just quiet, we're mean, and it really is true that the church house is where everything
needs to go down.
That's where everything needs, the grassroots needs to really start, and all across the
nation, all over Facebook, all over social media, you know, the biggest Baptist in the
country, all they're talking about is the election.
They're not talking about what really needs to be talked about, like getting this country
back on track through winning this country back to Christ.
Yeah, I mean, I saw a lot of Twitter posts where they were saying if your pastor didn't
preach on the importance of voting for Trump, then you're not in a real church.
I saw numerous posts like this, and I'm just thinking like, I thought that, you know, the
Bible's what changed our nation.
I saw a guy that was local that I was just interested.
I listened to one of his sermons.
He has a smaller church, independent Baptist, and I really appreciated his message because
he was saying like, I don't care what happens in this election.
Like we need, if we want to have real revival, it's not through Trump or Kamala, obviously
he wasn't advocating for Kamala at all, but he's just saying it's not through Trump.
It's through the King James Bible, it's through like soul winning, it's through getting back
into church.
So that's what's going to change this country, not some particular president or some kind
of government.
And I think that's the right message.
I think that's what independent Baptist should be preaching is something along those lines.
I am kind of curious though, my previous question, Pastor Mejia, what do you think about, do
you think America could get to a point where God doesn't even want us to pray for it's
good anymore?
Or what are kind of your thoughts there?
I think that as long as there are godly churches in America, there's always some hope for
souls and for the reformation of the minds of the people.
And I think there's always going to be churches in America.
I think Christians are always going to be there, obviously at different spiritual levels
and things of that nature.
But I do believe that there's always going to be a soul-willing church in America.
And as long as there are a handful of them, that can possibly stay the hand of judgment
upon America.
And so I pray for individual people, I pray for the people of America.
I'm not a hater of America, I'm a hater of the leaders of America, but I love the people,
the individuals, and I want them to be saved.
And I think we're a blessed country, it's a blessed nation that has tons of fundamental
Baptist churches, and obviously, you know, the vast majority of them right now are just
kind of placing their hope in the White House, and they're just kind of like, gung-ho about
Trump and everything, and I had a conversation at the gym with this guy, and he's not a
Baptist pastor, but he's a pastor, and he's kind of freaking out over the whole thing,
and he came to me and he's like, "Tonight's the night, this is really going to do it,
you know, we're going to find out."
And I just told him, I said, "I'm going to be soul-winding tonight, and I'm going to
be preaching the gospel tonight, and it doesn't matter what happens, you know, God is on the
throne, and we just need to make sure that we as Baptist pastors, or as pastors as Christians,
we just keep serving God and preaching righteousness, and we can create our little Goshen, no matter
where we're at in the country, where we can avoid the judgment of God upon our particular
area.
But as far as the nation is concerned, I believe we can still pray for individuals to be saved,
and it doesn't really matter what leaders say, I'm looking to change the minds of the
individuals in my sphere of influence, and in my state, in my city, and I still think
that's possible.
Yeah, I think one thing to comment on what you said is the fact that if America were
to go down, and again, not to say that we're the only ones doing something for God, but
since we kind of have some of the best churches and the best movements as far as missions
programs, it would be kind of like, what's the hope for the world then?
Because I don't really see a lot of other nations, a lot of other areas reaching people
with the gospel in the same way, with the same level of impact as America.
And so it seems like a giant light would be being put out if Christianity fell in America.
And I think that it's probably necessary that American churches continue to push through
whatever persecution and difficulty, even if our country did fall to communism or some
horrible evil, that we still try to do the best to shine our light.
Because if our light goes out, I mean, you know, it's going to be a pretty dark world.
Brother Oz, what do you think about the hope for America?
I know you live in Oklahoma, so you only see red, but you know, you probably are the heartland
of Trump country, really.
Yeah, that's for sure.
But I mean, you'd be surprised.
I've heard a lot of people that are regular blue-collared workers that are Kamala voters.
It's been kind of surprising, but could America get to that point where God wouldn't want us
to pray for it?
Sure, I guess it could.
I personally don't think that it's anywhere close to that right now, because you know,
when you look at the news and social media, it's usually just highlighting the worst things
about our country.
You know, the social media algorithms aren't full of videos of, you know, sermons and people
getting saved and good things happening in America, but overall, I still think that this
is the best country in the world and that it has the most saved preachers, the most
soul winners, the most good churches.
And overall, I still think that this is a great country.
And of course, you know, what is a nation?
It's just a group of individuals, right?
So when you think about the concept of praying for the nation, you know, I'm praying for
people in the nation.
When it comes to praying for government, I'm just praying that we could live a quiet and
peaceful life.
That's about as much as I pray for the government.
But, you know, I still think that there is a lot of hope for this country spiritually.
Sure, we may not be, you know, government-wise back to ever where we were, but I do think
that our country still can do great works for God and I've been to many other countries
and traveled the world and though I love those times and I've had great experiences in many
different places, every time I go somewhere else, I am thankful that I live here and that
I was born in America.
And so I think a lot of people are total spoiled brats when it comes to being thankful for
the things that we have.
So there's still hope.
We just have to keep doing our due diligence to preach the Word of God.
Because here's the thing, like when it comes to voting, I'm not against voting, I don't
think it's wrong, but really the greatest vote you can do as a Christian is every day
waking up, reading your Bible, going soul winning, going to church, preaching the Word
of God.
Like you're voting by doing all of those things.
I think that's going to have the biggest impact on the country.
Anderson, what are your thoughts on America, you know, are you praying for its good?
What is kind of your outlook for the future?
I mean, I stopped praying for God to bless America like a really long time ago, like
it already crossed my red line a long time ago.
But in one sense, you know, the Bible tells us to pray for all men, you know, so I mean,
I'm praying for just people in general, just praying for people to be saved, praying for
the work of Christ to go forward.
I'm definitely praying for churches, I'm praying for God's people to be blessed.
I don't specifically lift up America in prayer just because, you know, I feel like, you know,
America has crossed some lines and, you know, I just decided a long time ago that when they
cross certain lines, I was done praying for the country as such.
But I will say this, you know, America is obviously still being greatly used by God
as far as soul-winning churches, missionaries, you know, there are just a lot of great things
going on. So I'm not, I don't have a negative feeling about the way things are going.
And at the end of the day, none of us really knows where life is going to take us or what
the future holds. We can't predict things, like none of us predicted like this, the whole COVID
thing. That was a weird thing that happened and a lot of unprecedented things happened.
So none of us really knows what's going to happen. And so at the end of the day,
no matter what happens politically, no matter what happens with natural disasters or political
things or wars or rumors of wars, you know, we're going to continue serving God and we're going to
move forward and we're going to push through. And so, you know, at the end of the day, nothing's
going to stop us from serving God. Like we're going to keep preaching the gospel. We're going
to keep going so no matter what. And, you know, I remember reading this sort of the Lord article
like many years ago saying, you know, oh man, if Hillary gets elected, I think this was like 2016,
if Hillary gets elected, churches are, you know, might have to go underground. And it's just like,
dude, you guys are already underground, you know, because I don't hear you guys preaching hard
publicly about the things that need to be preached. And so you're proud. You're already halfway
underground too already. And so the way I look at it is, you know, no matter what happens,
the work of Christ is going to go forward. You know, and I, even if it's just a Democrat
president, Democrat Congress, Democrats in it, and some radical left-wing agenda goes forward,
I personally can't see us getting arrested for preaching the gospel or preaching the whole Bible
or preaching hard on sin or preaching it's homos or anything. I can't see us getting arrested for
that anytime in the next few decades. And so, you know, I don't, I don't think you're saying
reproaches me because when we were having to do hotel church at one point, we were so underground,
we would email out our location just a few hours before church started on Sunday morning. I was
just like, just start driving and then we'll tell you where to go. Yeah, but you're still uploading
it publicly to the internet. I know. I'm just kind of joking, but I mean, you know, I feel like I'm
also hanging on by a thread because it's like if rumble went down and X, like I have very few
options as far as putting even information. I mean, everybody knows godresource.com is the best
video streaming site on the internet. He's rumble. Email lists and godresource.com. What else do you
need? That's it. Well, I haven't banned any any uploader yet. So, you know, nor do I plan on ever
doing that. But yeah, I I want to give a quick update. I know some of our fans are interested
in the election still. And so I haven't pulled up on the AP. What's Pennsylvania? What's going on
there? It's really close right now. It says it's looking bad for Trump. 47% have been counted.
And it's 50% Trump, 49% Kamala. They're about 1.65 for Trump, 1.62 for Kamala. Now, if memory serves
me correct, I mean, it was around 3 million for both last time. So I think we're, I think it's
probably pretty similar numbers as to last year as far as what percentage that they're anticipating,
3.8.2. So there's still a long way to go. Plus, unfortunately, I think that a lot of times the
bigger counties that have the more Democrat cities are the ones that report late. So it could get
even closer. I was looking at- Pennsylvania is the big enchilada.
Georgia is one that is kind of interesting in that case.
It's gone red, looks like. Well, it is, but see, that's what I'm saying.
Like it's 81%. But if we click on it and we look at the actual state and you look at a lot of these
red zones, notice it'll say like 99% have already been counted in these red areas. Whereas in these
blue areas, it's like only 80%. And so that makes me feel like... Is there no data in California yet?
Probably not. I don't think so. But it just means to me that the Georgia one's going to just tighten
over time. It's probably, it's around 220,000 votes ahead for Trump and he has about 5% margin.
But see, here's the thing. It's still pretty, it's still pretty tight, pretty close. If I go to the
270 for the win, they don't really have any other data. They're not even really giving me any
projections yet on this, so. 0.3% voted for Stein. That's Jacob and Jared there.
Yeah, I'm sure. Well, back in 2020, it looks like Trump got a total of 232 and you need 270 to win.
He got 232 and he's already got 198. So only 34 more and he would beat 2020.
Is Oregon actually strong? Yeah, but I think last cycle,
if I remember correctly, he was around 320 by two in the morning and then it all shifted to the 230.
So I think that he was literally winning almost every one of the swing states to like a 320 or
300. And then overnight, just all these quote mail-in ballots came in.
Mass dumping of the fake ballots happened. All of these ballots came in and it changed in
Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. I think like all of those like
flipped overnight. And so it just like, it really... But had those actually been called though,
or were they just leaning? No, nothing had been called. It was leaning. Just leaning.
Now I'm saying, I'm saying 198 votes have already been called. Yeah, but all of those were expected.
Were they all expected? What are the swing states? So again, the swing states... Like
Arizona. Was Arizona expected? It's a swing state. Arizona hasn't been called yet.
Yeah. So it's Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona,
and Nevada. And I think that this map on the 270, I'm going to go back to it. This kind of
gives us an idea. So you look at Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia,
not New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada. I think those are, quote, the swing states. And for the most
part, Trump kind of has to have a Pennsylvania along with a couple others. He could, in theory,
if he won like a Michigan or Wisconsin plus a lot of the others could still potentially get over 270.
But I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know if we're even going to see a winter this
evening. I don't know if they're just going to drag this thing out. You're saying he hasn't really
won a like a pivotal state yet. Nothing. Nothing that was not expected has changed. Yeah.
There's really check out Oregon. I want to see what the heck's going on with Oregon. That's
like showing red on that map. There's zero percent. You have a 21 percent reporting.
It's just some small county somewhere. A big town out in the middle of nowhere.
Somewhere wherever you live. Where in the world? Pendleton.
That's all they got. Yeah, Portland. Portland went 100 percent for Trump. No, I'm just kidding.
Wow. Yeah, Portland is boarding up all their businesses downtown today. I saw a video of that.
That's a smart move. I'm sure Seattle's doing the same thing. Oklahoma City doesn't care. I'll tell
you that. What kind of people would protest, you know? Maybe there's a movie, LGBT Terrace.
You should go see it. It explains why certain people protest. They all live in Texas.
Do you remember in that film, there's a scene where we have a mug shot.
Maybe we can get our production crew to find this. You can find this on Google. There's this
mug shot collage. It's a horror film. Maybe I can--
I can't even-- I wouldn't be able to finish my dinner.
It's like Antifa mug shots or something like this. And it definitely-- yeah, here we go.
Oh man. I'm gonna-- I'm gonna pull this up. You might shield your eyes. If you were weak
in the stomach, then don't look. Oh! Oh! It's just the mug shots of Antifa.
And we-- we put some of these in our film. I don't even think-- I don't even think it's
necessarily in this exact photo, but it was-- it was a similar one. And it's just like--
These smiling, leering devils. This is the route that you go down. I think one of them is like
leather face. He's-- Alex Jones reference for those of you who have no idea why the hell I'm
saying-- Okay, I'll give that off the screen. All right. It saved the look again. It's the
Alex Jones reference. He has like this epic rant against Brian Stelter. So I was referring to that.
Do we have any clips that we want to watch? You had a couple-- There's so many that we--
No, but I think you had put a couple in our chat. If there's one that you were thinking of,
you could ask our production crew, and we could watch one of those quick clips here.
I'll let you tee that up, but I'm kind of curious, too, for our pastors here and everything
that's going on. Is there something that you're going to do different based on the presidential
election? I'm just kind of asking, do you think you'll be a little bit more conservative financially
if Harris wins? Do you think that you may do any-- I'm just kind of curious what you guys'
thoughts are. I'm sure some people have different opinions here. And we can go around the room.
Pastor Mejia, do you think if Trump's elected or Kamala's elected that you'll actually make
any decisions differently? No, it'll just be business as usual here. Other than the sermon
content will change a little bit. Who you're picking on. Yeah. I don't really foresee--
obviously if Trump becomes president, I don't think I'm even going to preach any sermons on Trump.
But if Kamala becomes president, obviously I would. But as far as anything I would change
in my church, I don't see it influencing the ministry at First Works at all, the soul-warning
at all. I think it's good to teach our people that the Word of God can have free course. And
when a man's ways please the Lord, he make it even his enemies to be at peace with them. So
it's just keep serving God, keep soul-warning, keep preaching, keep doing what you're supposed
to be doing. And we made it through Biden. And so my church grew through Biden's administration.
And so I wasn't really negatively affected at all. So I wouldn't change anything.
I'm kind of curious for our audience too, if you want to put in there, is there something that
you're going to change based on which president? What do you think, Brother Oz, do you think it's
going to change any decisions that you really make? No, I mean, just echoing these guys,
I have a sermon idea called Kamala is a curse that I would like to preach. But other than that,
I mean, presidencies don't really seem to affect church unless something crazy like COVID happens,
which really has nothing to do with whoever's in office. I mean, that obviously really affected
churches. And if something like that happened again, or if our nation had some insanely huge
war or something like that, that could affect church. But I don't really think just a new body
in the White House is going to change anything regarding our church, especially in Oklahoma.
What about you, Pastor Thompson? If Kamala wins, I'm going to preach a sermon called Kamala Harris,
the literal horror Babylon. I think Pastor Anderson. So I know you said you were going
to preach one too, but he said everybody's going to beat him to the punch. There's going to be a
lot of people do it because I have a missions conference right now. So I'm going to be preaching
a mission sermon and everybody's going to be preaching all these miles. You've got it. I'm
going to be, I'm going to be a week late with that. So yeah, but you'll know what everybody
preaches and you can just preach what everybody didn't. I'll be batting cleanup. Yeah, hit the
grand slam. I'm looking forward to all these sermons, honestly. I'm going to continue to buy
green bananas, whether Trump or Harris gets elected. Isn't that before they're ready to be
eaten? I'm confused. No, I'm saying like, you know, I'm willing to buy the green bananas because I
feel like I'll be around long enough to enjoy them when they get ripe. I gotcha. You know,
because it's nothing's too urgent. You're still going to buy pre-workout Pastor Mejia?
Oh yeah. I voted. Did anybody vote? I'll be honest, I did. Yes, I voted. I think our Middle
Eastern voted. Not today though, it was on early Friday. I had some ballot measures that were
pretty crazy. Like they basically in Washington, Jay Inslee, I mean, Jay Inslee, the governor of
Washington made it to where basically you can't have gas after a certain, like they made it where
basically, yeah, everybody has to go electric after a certain year. And so there was some, a measure
to repeal that. So I voted against that stupid card, all this carbon stuff. There's another carbon
one where, you know, you can only have a certain amount of carbon and, you know, all this just,
I just vote anything that raises taxes, I vote against that. So there was like four major ones
that I voted against. And then any amendments to change the city of Vancouver, they were trying
to change some stuff where they can just kind of work, do workarounds and screw around with the
city government. I voted against that. So yeah, I like to vote against every woman in positions
of authority. Like there was a bunch of questions that were saying like, would you like to keep
Janet so-and-so in position of judge? I'm just like, no. Would you like to keep Kelsey? No.
Next one, would you like to keep her? I'm just like, no, no, no, no. That was my voting.
So there's probably some elections where it's two women, right? Then I just, I abstain from that
one. Back when I used to vote, I used to do the same thing where I would just like
vote to remove all the female judges. But that's kind of an interesting subject though,
because if you think about it, like the fact that you can even remove judges by popular vote
is a bad idea anyway, because judges are supposed to do what's right no matter what. They're
supposed to pass judgment and not be in a popularity contest, which is why Supreme
Court justices, for example, are appointed for life, because that way they can just uphold the
law, interpret the law, and just do what their conscience tells them to do, and not have to
worry about making people happy. So this whole idea of having a popular vote to remove judges
is something that isn't really a legitimate part of our Republican form of government, I don't think.
We want to put a little bit of a poll out there for our audience. Why don't you give us your
opinion on who's going to win? Not who you want to win. Oh, okay. This is if you voted.
You think anybody in our chat is going to say they voted for Kamala?
Where is this poll?
I mean, I feel like even though I don't vote, I feel like probably more than 90% of my church
members voted. Yeah, I think so too. But I'm just saying, I want to put in the stream #Trump or
#Kamala. Who do you think is going to win the election? Not who you voted for, not who you want,
just your opinion. I just want to get a quick sample from our audience.
Where is the poll? Is it on X? Is it on Rumble?
It's just in the chat. So just give us a #Trump or #Kamala. I want to see kind of what our
audience is feeling. And this is again, not what you want, what you think. #Harris or
#Trump. It's pretty much all Trump so far. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump,
Trump, tie. How do you tie? I don't, I think you can technically tie. Oh, there's a #Harris.
Okay. There's, there's, there's another one. So we're going to like at about two out of 15
right now. These are people who voted Kamala? No, no, no, no. Were you listening? No, no one
listens to me when I speak, okay? They're just saying who they think is going to win, right?
Who they think is going to win. Who they think. Okay. Ben had a brother Thompson moment
where he's like. I guess whenever, whenever I speak, it's like, doesn't matter. It's funny,
like Utah, I'm looking at the, the, the chart. It says zero counts, zero votes counted 0% on all
aboard and they've already given Utah to Donald Trump. It's just like, we already know the Mormons
are going to vote for Trump. He's going to win. I saw an interesting video. It was, um, 180,000
Amish people registered to vote in Pennsylvania and they're like all voting for Trump because
I guess some Democrat went and like harassed them because of COVID in the last four years or
something like that. So you had all these Amish people coming out voting for Trump and it's pretty
funny. Like they're so against technology and all these different things, but I guess voting for
Trump. They'll use the electronic voting machine if they have to. Their standards are to vote for
Trump too. I guess they're just looking at it from a pure harassment perspective. They just don't want
to be harassed. And that's what most people that I know, that's why they voted for Trump. I got
grief from a lot of family members, a lot of friends. They said, "Hey, we just want to be less harassed
and it's the lesser of two evils." I'm not mad at those people. I think that it makes
sense that it is the lesser of two evils, but I don't even think it's for sure because obviously
even Trump brought in the COVID measures and allowed a lot of things to happen at the end of
his presidency. I think that even if he is the president, that does not necessarily stop us
from having all kinds of crazy things happening during his term in office.
I think I'm probably a little different than all of our past friends here and our friends here
because I will probably be more conservative if Kamala Harris is elected as opposed to Donald
Trump as far as just like decisions I would make financially or just what I'm doing with our church
just to be a little bit more careful. And I was thinking of what the Bible says in Proverbs 22.
It says, "A prudent man foreseeeth the evil and hideeth himself, but the simple pass on and are
punished." And again, four years ago, I said in our stream, I said, "If Donald Trump loses and Biden's
in office, he is a shield for a lot of hate and a lot of people are attacking him. And when he's out,
they're going to then focus all their attention on a lot of Christians." And so from my perspective,
I just thought we're going to get harassed more than we did. So from my perspective,
I just wanted to be a little bit more conservative. And so that's probably what I'm going to do.
I don't know that that necessarily is right. I'm just kind of saying like, from my perspective,
that's kind of how I feel about that situation. I want to play a clip here that you had set up.
Can we play this clip that we have set up here? It's the first clip in our
media channel, the very first clip, but it's basically these dudes dressed up as Kamala Harris
staff and they knocked on Kamala Harris supporter doors and offered them some migrants. Go ahead.
I dressed up like I work for Kamala's campaign and now I'm going to deliver immigrants to her
supporters. Are you? We do have a surprise if that's okay, just real fast. We're looking for
a place for them to stay. They just came across. They'll sleep on floors. I mean they're not picky,
you know. We have like a two-year-old so Hector's good with kids. Could they just like sleep on your
lawn? They need a place to stay. They just came across. Oh that's fine. Hector, he was dating
a teenager like a little bit ago so. They just came across. They don't have papers. You're in
support of like the whole border situation and we're just trying to get them a floor to sleep on.
You guys want COVID? They said they could survive it. We work with her so we know how to say her name.
Earlier you said Kamala. The way she pronounces her name is Kamala. You don't work with her.
See that car? We have three dudes who just came across the border. We're trying to find them a
home. Just say I'm voting for Donald Trump without saying it, okay? That's a wrong attitude, Mr.
So you're voting Kamala? No. So yeah, their policies make sense for other people just not
themselves, right? We love for the migrants to come across the border and we want someone to
house them, just not us. Yeah. Well, it's just funny to see the hypocrisy. It's so easy. It's
like shooting fish in a barrel to point out the hypocrisy of leftists. And we talked about voting
earlier. I did vote early voting on Friday. And a large part of my motivation is I really want to
see these people crying tonight. I really, really want to hear their screams leftists cry very badly.
Obviously, you could argue that's not the greatest motivation. I get that many of them who aren't
safe are going to go to hell anyway. I understand. But I guess you could argue in my flesh, you know,
it would really be a lot of fun to see them be absolutely miserable and having a complete
and total mental breakdown because of how arrogant, because of how prideful, and because of how hypocritical
they are. I really despise leftism to my core. Ben, you want to, you want to open your front door
and hear the shrieking shrill screams of Lynette and all the other stupid queer protesters. You
want to hear them screaming. I want to hear it. And see what we're looking at here, brother Oz,
what we're looking at here. And for the audience, this is 2000, this is 2016 when Hillary lost and
look at all these pathetic people. They're so sad. They're so miserable that they're not going to
get the trans kids and the abortion and the Satan worship and the blood thirsty policies. And look
at that cussing the screen. You are a pathetic woman. That is gross. That is filthy. That is
abominable. But I love to see them upset and crying and sad. It makes my day. Yeah, people that
love, you know, chopping up babies are animals. Disgusting, barbaric, filthy, subhuman. And it's
even worse. Now they're putting the pedophile books in the schools. Now they have the pedophile
story time hour. They're defiling children. They're putting them in trafficking. It is so
disgusting what they're doing, what they propagate, what they support. It's gross. Every single
normal person stands against it. And if those people are going to be the ones who are upset,
crying, losing their minds tonight, then I will be celebrating. How's it going Pastor
Anderson? He didn't get McDonald's. What did you get? We've got to promote whatever food
choice you have. This is my wife's famous taco soup. Nice. Is that like the chicken
and the corn and the beans and all that? It's definitely beans and corn and tomatoes, rice
and it's beef. Oh it's beef. I thought that was frosted wheats because you're talking
about frosted wheats. Yeah I mean I have kind of- Or frosted flakes? No I've kind of switched
over to preferring frosted mini wheats to Cinnamon Toast Crunch actually. Is that backwards?
Aren't you on the Cinnamon Toast Crunch and then- Yeah but I'm saying I've now graduated
to frosted mini wheats. Oh wow. Oh okay so now that's like a huge development. Yeah.
But I also- What's that? Is there a brand? Because there's this one called Mom's Best
that we have at our store that I like. Yeah when I was at your house I had a big bowl
of that Mom's Best out of your pantry. Man staying at Pastor Shelley's house has some
serious perks because he has the most cereals in his pantry of any house I've ever stayed
at. I mean I opened the pantry and it was like I don't even know where to begin. It
was like a kid in a candy store. There were just like 10 wonderful cereals. I'm just like
having a bowl of each. It was the greatest thing ever. I think it's because I have six
kids and they'll crush a box. Like you'll just have like one box and it'll be gone the
next day. So you have to be really careful and especially if you buy something good.
I do always like those other brands. Even for Cinnamon Toast Crunch, I prefer the one
that comes from Sprouts or whatever core brand from Trader Joe's or Sprouts. It has like
half as much sugar in it, but it still tastes great. Let's face it, the King James version
Cinnamon Toast Crunch is a little high in sugar. The off-brand one is like a little
mellower on the sugar, and it's still just as good. But yeah, the mom's best mini-wheats,
when I say mini-wheats, it doesn't have to be that brand.
Some people say they're like, "So in the chat, we've got corn flakes, Rice Krispies, Golden
Grahams, the generic wheat flakes." You know, honestly, one of the best generics for me
is Walmart has just their Walmart version of brand flakes. And I don't know, I just
like love Walmart's brand flakes. They're super, super good. But Apple Jacks is probably
my guilty pleasure. So do you have a cereal?
What's the Lucky Charms Walmart brand? What's the Lucky Charms Walmart brand? You know what
I'm talking about?
I don't know. I've never had that one.
Oh, it's good.
Ben, do you have a guilty pleasure cereal?
Yeah, he's a Oreo O's.
Oreo O's?
I don't even know.
It's delicious.
My brother in Christ.
Obviously, you don't go to the supermarket. They're on every supermarket shelf, the cereal
aisle.
Is it really like a Cheerio, but it's like an Oreo?
Yes.
It looks like Cheerios, but they're little Oreos like this.
They're so good.
I like O's.
Honey Bunches of Oats are the best.
Honey Bunches of Oats.
Oh, you're like my wife.
My wife loves that cereal.
Marshmallow Mateys.
That's what they're called.
Marshmallow Mateys.
What about you, brother Oz?
You got a cereal over there?
No, I don't eat cereal.
My guilty pleasure would be ice cream.
That's my...
Wow.
That's the killer right there.
The holier than thou.
Okay.
Ice cream is so healthy, Ben.
Man.
Wow.
Okay.
You got me on that one.
Ice cream for breakfast?
Or...
No, I'm just kidding.
Oh, no, no, no.
Yeah, of course.
That's funny.
No, I love a good bowl of cereal, but my guilty pleasure was McDonald's night, so I had to
represent the Trump Prize.
Wow.
Yeah, mine also is McDonald's.
Not like you, Pastor Shelley.
Well, you know...
You're hanging out too much with me.
I've been a horrible influence on you.
Indian food is where I draw the line.
I hope so.
What did you get from McDonald's?
I hope four years from now it doesn't change.
What did you get from McDonald's, Pastor Shelley?
Fries.
We got seven orders of large fries and then we got their Coke.
Which the McDonald's Coke is better.
I believe that.
Wait, wait, wait.
Did you get any burgers or anything?
Well, I would.
Normally, like if I was going to eat dinner or something, I might get like a double quarter
pounder.
That's probably my choice.
But just for the show, we just got a bunch of fries just to have...
I feel like I'm just eating a burger on the show.
I'm already kind of loud, chomping.
People are like, "We're getting some AMSR with your eating or something."
So I'm trying to back off on that.
But...
Pastor Mahan, your thoughts on McDonald's?
Yes, sir.
Oh, boy.
I love McDonald's.
You got a double quarter pounder with the 10-piece chicken nugget meal.
That's about 75 to 80 grams of protein right there.
Dude, the McNuggets are terrible.
I'm sorry.
It's done to my folks.
I can't agree with the McNugget doctrine, but ... Oh man, those are awesome.
Is it even chicken?
The double cheeseburgers are ... The double cheese or the McDoubles are really good too.
Yes.
To go back to one of my favorite ... Those are about 24, 25 grams.
Old Pastor Anderson clips.
Yeah.
Geez.
Pastor Anderson has this clip where he's ripping on McDonald's nuggets about it being like
glue and paste or whatever.
It's like one of my favorite sound bites just because I just ... I laugh so hard.
I've never heard that.
I love their nuggets so much that for him to rip on them, it was like a ... Are you
sure it's like a special moment?
Did that really happen?
Yeah.
Hold on.
Yeah, but Pastor Shelley, Pastor Anderson likes Indian food though.
That's not really a credible source when it comes to ...
I can pick and choose when I like Pastor Anderson's preaching, so I really like that one sound
bite.
Is this old Pastor Anderson or are you still confirming your McNugget doctrine?
I feel exactly ... Look, I've been consistent on the McNugget doctrine for 18 and a half
years of ministry, and back in the early days of our church, I read the book Fast Food Nation
by Eric Schlosser, and that was really formative for me, and so that's probably where I was
getting a lot of that.
Super Size Me.
Then there's also the documentary Food, Inc., so that book and that film influenced me.
Did you see Super Size Me?
I thought that turned out to be a hoax.
Yeah, that's a fraud.
It's a fraud.
I thought Super Size Me is a fraud.
I don't believe it.
Really?
The guy didn't eat it for 30 days.
It was a fraud.
He actually turned out to be—
He's an alcoholic.
That's it.
I was going to say that.
Yep.
Go ahead.
Pass from here if you want to go into more detail.
This is like a 9/11 moment.
He lied about all the data, and he was basically unhealthy because he was a major alcoholic.
Yeah.
That's what he died of.
Shout out to user 712101.
In and out is better.
I confirm this.
I'm glad we've got Brother Mejia in the legal department to help us with this.
Help us with some of this data.
Yeah, we've got to make sure that we're staying above board here.
Pastor Thompson.
He looks like a lawyer.
You know, where are you out in this McDonald's controversy?
It's not a controversy.
I mean, I do like In-N-Out better, but the fries at McDonald's are better than the fries
at In-N-Out.
Sorry.
It's just some election news here.
I'm paying attention to Election Wizard.
Election Wizard.
Wait, this isn't about the election.
This is about burgers now, Ben.
Are you going to a witch?
Oh, sorry.
What?
So, George has been called for Donald Trump.
I'm just not going to talk.
Go ahead.
He's going to a witch and bringing up the spirit of Ronald Reagan for advice.
Thumbin' me up, Ronald Reagan.
Oh, man.
I give up.
Then give us a Reagan impression.
Hey, hey, hey.
Just as long as we collectively agree that Water Burger is trash.
I hate Water Burger.
I hate Water Burger as well.
It's terrible.
I've tried it once.
That was enough for my whole life.
I never need to try again.
I think that we actually have a common doctrine finally.
It made me sick.
I literally felt sick to my stomach after eating it.
Moving to Oklahoma, I do really miss In-N-Out, but I don't miss Water Burger.
See the new IFP just says lock and stuff on everything.
Yeah, but I bet all the haters love Water Burger too.
Yeah, I'm sure.
It's like anybody leaves the new IFP.
The first thing that goes out the window is that Jesus spent three days and three nights
in hell, and then the second thing is they start loving Water Burger.
They're like, "Water Burger has 100 grams of protein, Pastor Mehe, how about that?"
Well, that seems dangerous because I see Pastor Reyes in the chat says that he likes Water
Burger, so I don't know.
That's dangerous.
Shane.
That's unbelievable.
Got to watch out for Houston.
Houston, I'm telling you.
Might have to start recommending the church stuff.
Next thing he's going to be saying, he's going to start saying that he's using the
1960s after that.
Oh, man.
That's low.
Shots fired.
You don't want Houston to become another Jacksonville, you know?
Houston, man.
Wow.
Jacksonville did not have good food.
That's a spicy comment right there.
Someone says they had water burger in Florida.
That sounds like it'd probably be even worse.
Not only are you having water burger, it's in Florida.
That's got to be really bad.
It's in Florida and I can confirm that it's really bad.
Oh man.
I had it in Phoenix the only time I've ever had it and it was like a mustard burger basically.
Yeah.
I thought that the only reason people ate a water burger is because everything was closed
before 2 a.m. and so it's just like the only thing left open.
I didn't realize people ate there before 2 a.m.
Back when I used to run my fire alarm business, I would sometimes have these business lunches
where I would try to make deals and stuff.
You'd take somebody out somewhere kind of nice, nothing crazy, but you'd go to a sit-down
restaurant because we're doing business and stuff.
I remember I was going to do business with this company and then I said to the guy, "Hey,
where are we going to meet for lunch to work that out?"
Then the guy wanted to do the business lunch at Whataburger.
I was like, "What the heck?"
Then that's the only time I've ever eaten at Whataburger was because I was trying to
transact this deal.
I went there.
I ate the food.
It was nasty.
I just kind of forced it down.
I just thought, "Man, this is not a classy lunch, man, for a business deal."
Then the guy ended up ripping me off for $4,500.
I should have known when he was so cheap about the business lunch that he wants to do it
at Whataburger.
I should have known this guy's not on the up and up.
I did make a lot of money work with the guy, but then ultimately he ripped me off for $4,500.
What a crappy burger.
That's what it is.
It ruined Whataburger for me.
It was already ruined.
So it looks like an update in the election, and this is kind of what I had said earlier,
but this is the forecast.
So if you look at the live results for this 270 to win, they've kind of already called
Georgia and North Carolina for Trump.
Georgia's Trump.
And then you kind of have a forecast, and this forecast, if it's dark red, I believe
that that means they've already called it.
Light red and light blue is like just, it's still coming in.
But they're kind of suggesting that it looks like you'll probably get Arizona.
And if he did, then he's at 262.
The problem is even if he gets Nevada, he would still be at 268.
So that means he would have to get either Wisconsin, Michigan or Pennsylvania.
And again, both Wisconsin and Michigan were really heavily blue leaning.
So that's why I kind of said previously it seemed like Pennsylvania was most likely the
kind of the clincher.
New York.
Well, this is significant.
The New York Times needle is at 81% for Donald J. Trump.
Well, and if you look at Pennsylvania, it says 59% have voted or count have been counted.
It's 50.9% Trump, 48.1% Kamala.
So that gives them about a hundred and maybe 16, around 116,000 vote advantage temporarily.
But again, it seems like when you look at some of these things, like some of the more
blue counties are behind as far as how much percentage of votes they have counted.
I believe that Philadelphia County, I heard them saying previously that Kamala would have
to get 700,000 votes in Philadelphia County to win.
Currently she has 332,000 at 55% counted.
So that seems like it's on pace almost, at least would get her to over 600,000.
I think that Joe Biden had 602,000, I think was one of the things I'd seen before.
So there's an update too, if our production truck can go ahead and put it on the screen.
We can get this on the production here, Brother Tim.
No, that's not what I was looking for.
Never mind.
Go back to go back to Pastor Shelley.
What was it?
What are you looking for?
Just say it.
I wanted to put, it's something funny.
It won't be as funny if I describe it to you, but this right here, I'm going to see if
I can get it.
Send it over to them and get them T it up and then we'll put it on the screen.
The one time I try to cue something, look what happens.
If you guys have a question that you want us to talk about, you can put it in the chat
and we'll try to bring up some of the questions that we have in here.
It looks like the chat has been pretty much in support of the idea that Trump's most likely
going to win, but I still think it's probably too early to say.
Well, I mean, that New York Times probability is significant in my mind because when they
did that in 2016, you know, we know how that went.
Does anybody remember at what time in the night that Trump beat Kamala?
Huh?
Kamala?
Hillary?
I'm sorry, Hillary.
Like whenever he won.
It was like probably 10, 11 or 10.30.
I was watching that from the East Coast.
I think I remember it was around 10, 11 o'clock.
By that point, we knew Donald Trump was the next president of the United States of America
around 10, 11 p.m. that night.
I don't know if you guys remember that.
Did you guys even watch it?
Wow, silence.
Look at this.
Don't, don't respond too fast.
I was in bed, man.
In fact, I need to be in bed in about 50 minutes here.
I'm sorry.
What was the question?
Did y'all, did you watch the video?
This is fantastic.
What a stream.
All right.
Y'all are so, look at, look at how emotionally invested every single person is tonight in
this live stream.
We've never had a more exciting stream.
Hey, let's get back on something to care about.
When we get to hate-talking Whataburger.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think we have the, we have the thing I wanted to put.
Sorry.
I was giving an update on the election and they all tuned out.
Yeah.
So.
Hey, sorry.
Brother Tim.
How much do we care?
It's, it's honey bunches of oats.
Is that the answer?
Yeah.
Just say a cereal if you forget what your line is.
Hey, Brother Tim.
If you could put that up now.
This is what I wanted to.
Chicken McNugget.
We do have, we do have a.
We do have an election result here.
This is significant.
He got all the votes.
CNN projects that Harry Sisson is in fact still a fag this evening.
Who is that?
You don't know who it is.
Pastor Anderson shaking his head.
So this is a hardcore Kamala supporter on X and influencer on social media.
Well, he was the biggest Joe Biden supporter.
That was what's so funny.
Yeah.
So he actually was like the most hardcore Joe Biden and didn't want him to step down
and blah, blah, blah.
And then just immediately loves Kamala, biggest Harris supporter.
A hardcore Democratic Party sycophant.
So that's the joke.
Hopefully you found it funny.
If not, that's fine.
We can move on.
They said Hillary conceded.
They said Harris won't concede.
I think that's a pretty fair point.
Someone brought up the Hulk Hogan earlier.
Was that you, Pastor Thompson?
Yeah.
Kind of stepped on my toes a little bit.
I thought that was kind of...
Sorry.
But WWE is real.
Well, Pastor Thompson's kind of overcompensating because he's kind of into pro wrestling secretly.
He's kind of protesting a lot here.
He just doesn't like Hogan.
I like Macho Man, though.
That's the difference.
Hogan was always...
He always did the thing where he's like, "Oooh," and then he'd pick somebody up and
slam him.
Yeah.
I know zero about that.
I am curious what your thoughts are.
Supposedly Elon says, or I think Elon suggested this, somebody suggested this, that they're
going to put Ron Paul in office potentially if Trump wins, like put him in some kind of
government position.
Yeah, that'd be great.
How do you feel about that, Pastor Anderson?
You already know how I feel about that.
We used to be Ron Paul Nation.
I like...
I'm just trying to make sure.
I'm a huge Ron Paul supporter.
I mean, when Ron Paul retired from politics, I retired from politics.
Yeah, that is true.
The last time I voted was voting for Ron Paul in the 2012 primary.
And then I did not vote in the general election because Ron Paul wasn't on the ballot.
And so...
Did you pretty much give up because he was screwed out of it?
So you became just totally black-pilled?
Oh, that's the thing.
You're terrible.
Well, yeah, because here's the thing.
I used to drive a lot for my job and I would spend a lot of time, honestly, listening to
some of the conservative talk radio stuff just out of sheer boredom.
You know, I mean, I would listen to the Bible, I'd listen to foreign language learning materials.
I would listen to preaching.
I would listen and then, you know, there's just so much time on the road.
I'd be driving a lot of times eight, nine, 12, 14 hours and stuff.
So I'd be driving so much that I would end up listening to a lot of these right wing
talk radio guys on XM radio because I had XM radio in my car.
And then I actually thought that they were at least sincere people, even if I didn't
agree with them on everything.
Then Ron Paul came along and everything that these guys had been saying for years that
they were for, here's a guy that just embodies everything that they supposedly stand for
and they all hated him and they all blackballed him.
And that's when I realized they were all fake and I stopped listening to all of them.
I was just so disillusioned with these guys that I had listened to, like Michael Savage
and like, I don't know, who else was it that I would listen to in those days on XM radio?
Rush.
Who is that guy that was in the middle of the night?
Yeah.
I don't even remember their names anymore.
No, it wasn't like Lowry.
Lowry.
Well, I think it's like Mark Levin was one of them.
Yeah.
And then like Michael Savage.
But then there was this guy like Mike Church, I think was one that I would listen to that
was on from like two to five a.m.
So I'd be listening to him and it was just like, I just thought, why are
these people all not just rallying to Ron Paul?
He's the ultimate candidate that it just made me realize just how bogus they were,
how fake they were, because they're just not really standing for what they claim
that they were for. Yeah.
And so that's when I just kind of lost faith and just the way Ron Paul was locked
out and he just didn't get a fair shake from the Republican Party.
It just kind of disillusioned me in the hole with the whole.
I can't blame you for that.
Chap brings up Art Bell, Rush Limbaugh.
What about Alex Jones?
Oh, of course, I listened to a ton of Alex Jones back then as well.
But Alex Jones was for Ron Paul, because he was a real one.
Did Alex Jones have Gavin McGuinness on his show a lot in the past and then not as much
in the future?
No, he has him on all the time now.
Oh, okay.
But I mean, I guess so it's no different, it's just always been, they've been-
Gavin McGuinness.
You asked about him.
He's old school too, right?
Isn't he from a long time?
Like he's been on air for a really long time.
I don't know his history, I wouldn't be able to give you an accurate answer there.
I mean, Alex obviously, you know, you could argue he's changed on a few things since the
mid 2000s for sure.
But from a pure entertainment standpoint, this guy, he is, I don't know what he's on,
but like, it's crazy, the energy and the ranting and all that.
I just find it to be very entertaining.
Tucker Carlson.
Do you think he's fake?
Do you think he's sincere?
No, I mean, I think a lot of people are very quick to just everybody's controlled opposition.
Everybody's bad.
I'm not that kind of guy.
I think Tucker Carlson's sincere and I don't agree with everything he says.
I think recently he's been saying weird stuff about demons or whatever, but in general,
I think he's a sincere guy.
Nephilim, too.
Yeah, Nephilim or whatever.
But he had that country singer on, big and rich, and they were speaking against dispensationalism,
which I thought was pretty cool for somebody with that big of a platform to be saying things
that are right doctrinally, so that was pretty cool.
We got a little bit of weird noise.
There's an alien invasion of some sort.
Sorry about that.
I never really got into talk radio that much, so I didn't really follow that.
I was like your normal average Republican.
I voted for Mitt Romney, and I'll admit it.
But here's the thing, nobody told me he was a Mormon, and then I feel like that was kind
of a disservice to me as a voter, but I just really hated Obama and the idea of Obamacare
and a lot of the programs that he was wanting to bring in, so I guess I feel victim of the
voting for the lesser of two evils.
I don't know, did any of you guys have a regret vote?
Like I regret voting for Romney, he didn't win anyways, but I kind of stopped voting
after that.
I don't know, I'm just kind of-
I voted for George W. Bush, I think, in the year 2000.
So you literally brought the Twin Towers down?
You brought the-
Wow.
Yeah.
That was Ben.
Okay, so you can stop blaming me now.
All right?
No, no, no.
You were the vehicle by which it happened.
He just enabled you.
Gotcha.
I voted for Al Gore that same year.
Oh man.
Because I already knew Bush was evil.
Dang.
Because I read that book called-
Passive Thompson was woke.
I don't know.
I forgot what the guy's name was, but he's like Antichrist or something.
But he was right about George Bush being evil, but Al Gore is evil too.
Has anybody here ever voted Democrat?
I mean, he just said he voted for Al Gore.
Other than Pastor Thompson.
Wow.
Other than Pastor Thompson.
Does anybody listen to the story?
And I thought you were the only person actually paying attention to the political stuff and
now you voted for Brother Thompson.
Yeah.
The spirit of Pastor Thompson is resting upon you.
Everybody's going to have their moment.
Everybody's going to have their moment tonight.
I voted.
I'll admit this.
I did vote for a Democrat one time.
It was in third grade.
They had us vote.
And it was Bill Clinton or I think it was Bob Dole.
It was Bob Dole or Bill Clinton.
And I literally didn't know anything.
I didn't even know either of their names.
I just literally just checked one.
But then I remember what they did is they announced the results over the loudspeaker.
And so there's like, okay, in third grade, we have, here's the results.
We had 280 votes for Bob Dole and one for Bill Clinton.
I was thinking like, who did that?
I was the only person in my entire school that voted for Bill Clinton.
So I went home and asked my parents about it.
Has anybody ever voted like in a school?
I'm just kidding.
Thanks Ben.
Go ahead.
That was a really funny joke.
Yeah, I was, it was, it was kind of weird.
So I, my, I know family members that voted for Bill Clinton because he was actually a
Baptist and they were like, well, I voted for Bill Clinton because he's a Baptist.
So that's, that's pretty crazy.
Honestly, Dylan, you know, he, he couldn't vote, you know, two years ago or something
like that anyway.
So there really wasn't many opportunities in the past.
I voted for Nick Romney in 2012, like you did Pastor Shelley.
Yeah.
So did I.
Wow.
Anybody but Obama.
That was, that was my theory back then.
That's when I was old IFB and that's what they were pushing and I was just like, alright,
you know, we hate it.
We hate rocks.
I guess we're just confessing our faults one another, as he's named.
We're just having to admit some terrible voting habits here.
Do we have an update?
It's really just sitting there.
Yeah.
I feel like this is what happened last time.
I want to see the county by county breakdown of California.
They just paused.
Well, Pennsylvania is the big enchilada.
If that's not moving, you know, we're not going to know anything tonight.
California doesn't have anything on this particular site.
Well that's West Coast time.
They already gave it, they already gave California, California is over.
California is not.
Yeah.
Oh, of course.
I know California is not going to vote red.
I just am curious to see the county by county.
No, they don't.
I don't think anything has the details on it yet.
So but I'm curious.
Like do you guys, do you guys think that California is like secretly red or do you think it's
actually really blue?
I think virtually every state is red with some big blue cities in it because you go
to the countryside in Oregon, Washington, California, Idaho, Oklahoma.
It's all the same.
People are just normal there.
But yeah.
To answer your question, Pastor Shelley, I think that in general it's legit.
I think there's definitely cheating that goes on, but I don't think that they can cheat
if it's a landslide.
You know, I think that the cheating takes place when it's close.
And so if it's really close, that's where the cheating becomes decisive, which is probably
what happened in 2020.
Whereas, you know, a state that's just dramatically going to the Democrats, it's not, they're
not cheating to that degree.
I don't think anybody's cheating at those levels because there's all kinds of polling
and things that support those, those results.
Well, Arizona last time went blue for the first time in what, 30 years or something.
Yeah.
Has anyone here ever been contacted by a pollster?
Because I have not.
Never.
No, but what you have to understand is that like these, these national polls and stuff
that they'll usually be based on about talking to about a thousand people.
And it's interesting how they can talk to 500 to a thousand people and produce a pretty
accurate result about a country of 340 million people.
But that's because of the power of randomness.
But no poll has ever truly random.
But if the polls were truly random, then asking a thousand people would give you an extremely
accurate view of 340 million.
It's hard to believe, but it's true.
Pastor Russell is chiming in on this in the chat room and he says California is blue,
no question at all.
He also says that all metros are blue, LA is huge.
So there you go.
Does he mean metro dudes or metro areas?
Metro dudes are probably blue too.
I was born in Fresno, California and it seemed to be a pretty conservative place.
Yeah, I think I agree with Pastor Anderson though, too, that it's like the reason why
Dems need that bigger voter turnout is probably more people lean Democrat if they voted.
It's just a lot of them just don't even vote.
And so when they do show up, it usually swings pretty heavy in the Democrats favor.
But I just think that the policies of the Republicans have shifted so much that they're
like Democrat anyways, and that the Democrats are now just like the party of Satan.
I mean, they had Waheguru at the RNC.
Is this CNN or something like that?
This is AP.
Well, isn't Kamala an Indian herself?
I don't know.
She's Indian.
Black.
Chinese.
She's whatever.
She used to be an Indian and now she's black.
That's right.
I forgot.
Yeah.
It looks like Harris is all excited and Trump campaign's not excited at all.
I don't know what any of this means.
Yeah, I don't know what this means.
To see a guy in a green shirt sitting here doing nothing while they're counting ballots.
Here's a question that I thought about earlier this week that I could get your guys' take
on.
I was wondering this, do you think that there are Democrats out there who are, you know,
they're used to voting Democrat, they're liberal Democrats, but they're just like, you know
what, I'm not going to vote for Kamala as president because I just don't want a woman
to be president.
Yes.
I've seen a lot of videos of that.
I don't know that that exists.
No, no, no.
I've seen a lot of videos.
There's tons of people on Twitter today that have said, I voted Democrat my entire life,
but they've been doing crazy stuff.
I hate that they arrested Trump.
I hate that they're doing this stuff.
But he said about women.
Yeah, but I'm just saying, even women.
Because they're a woman?
Even women.
Yeah, but for the Shelley, you know.
I think even the Muslims.
That's not what I'm asking, though.
Obviously, there are people who voted Democrat their whole life and are going to switch or
whatever.
I'm saying where they're just like, because it's a woman, if it were a man, they would
have voted for the person, even if it was all the same policies.
But they're just like, no, I just don't want a woman to be the president of the United
States.
I just don't want a woman to be the commander in chief.
Because I guarantee that if it was the female candidate on the Republican side, there'd
probably be a lot of conservatives that would feel like, I don't want to support a woman
to be the leader.
Like we obviously biblically believe that men should lead and so forth.
No, I agree with you.
Is the fact that she's a woman hurting her at all?
I'm agreeing with you.
I'm saying that they're giving another excuse though, because I don't think anybody would
just say publicly, like on that side of the equation, they'd be like, I just didn't vote
for her because she's a woman.
I think that they did, but they're just then saying like, well, I just don't like the policies
or whatever.
But I mean, there's been a lot of people saying, yeah, I voted Democrat my whole life and now
I'm not.
And I think that is a part of it.
They're just probably never going to admit that publicly, but I could be wrong.
Now I see what you're saying.
And yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
We have Trump now has an 85% chance of winning the election according to the New York Times.
Who owns the New York Times?
Jacob, where you at?
I don't know.
Is that the answer?
Is that what you're looking for?
I was looking for any answer.
Oh, I'm not sure.
Yeah, I mean, I think that there's going to be like I've even heard, you know, women
saying like, I don't want a woman president, like, we're going to look weak in the eyes
of other nations and countries and it doesn't really make sense.
And I think a lot of women want a male leader, at least at that position.
I think even some of the feminists would admit like, hey, we should probably have a guy in
charge of the nation.
I just don't see, I don't really see hardly any normal men wanting a woman president no
matter what her policy was.
But you know, maybe, maybe I'm wrong.
Democrats are normal men though, right?
Democrats are normal men.
Well, I do.
Probably most of them are not.
Yeah.
I do know.
I think that most of them are going to be okay with that.
Yeah, but wasn't it so weird when all the Republicans were like getting excited about
that one woman?
The what's Sarah Palin, Sarah Palin, weird, Alaska.
Gross.
Mm hmm.
Dylan, you admitted, you know, a Democrat.
So yeah, I know a Democrat who is he's still voting for Kamala, but he does not like the
fact that she's a woman like he doesn't want a woman president, but he's kind of like holding
his nose voting for Kamala because he thinks like she's still better than Trump.
But he openly says like, yeah, kind of sucks that the Democratic nominee is a woman.
Like I don't really want a woman president, but she's better.
So there are Democrats like that out there.
Well, you bring up Sarah Palin, there's a lot of different female politicians, Carrie
Lake is one, and some others as well that you see conservatives actually do get kind
of excited about.
Kristi Noem?
Noem.
The mainline conservatives.
Marjorie Taylor Greene?
Thank you.
That's another one.
My point is that it seems like the mainline republicans, they...
Hillary Clinton.
But she's...
That's how Shelley's into this.
AOC.
Well, those aren't republicans, but it seems like the mainline conservatives don't care
if it's a woman.
That was my point that I've been trying to spit out.
Go ahead.
He wasn't listening because he started bringing up Hillary and AOC and he got off track.
Well, if you're going to troll me, have fun.
Okay, you got me.
I hope you enjoy your revenge.
It's 10 o'clock central time.
We have two more hours to fill.
What the hell are we going to talk about?
Just watch Sodomite Deception if you want.
I'm just saying-
Have you seen the cringe videos where Mala's getting up there and trying to do these cheers
and it's so bad that nobody will repeat the cheers?
Have you seen any of those?
Well, she did one where she just said, "Everybody say their own name."
It was like First Corinthians 14 or something like this where everybody's just like, "Bah!"
This does seem like a feminist rally.
Is this like mental lovers of their own selves?
Yeah.
I'm curious, Pastor Interson, would you say, because I had brought up Ohio and you thought
it was a swing state, so from a political perspective then, are you sort of in a time
capsule of the mid-2000s?
Yeah, probably, most of my political knowledge was acquired like literally 15 to 20 years
ago or something probably, so yeah, so I don't really probably have relevant up-to-date information
about these things, so I'm, you know.
I feel like that's the same for a lot of people, there's probably like an old demographic
of baby boomers that are democratic, like they were Democrats and they're just never
going to change and it's not because of the current like policy and situation, it's just
in their mind, they're stuck in like old democratic mindset and they're just going to vote Democrat.
I mean for me the biggest issue about this election is just the war in Iraq, you know.
We got to get Saddam, hey man?
I mean, are the weapons of mass destruction there or not?
You know what I mean?
Are you hoping to get the perpetrators of 9/11 still?
Ohio's a swing state, Sarah Palin, go ahead.
Bin Laden needs to be brought to justice, there's no question about that.
Find the cave dwellers.
Obamacare.
I'm going to need a contact list of everyone you know in Lebanon.
Oh man.
Yeah, I'm not giving that up.
Is Russia the good guy or the bad guy?
I don't know.
Good guy.
Russia?
No, we have to ask passengers, he's a time capsule.
Oh, sorry.
In the beginning of the 2000s is Russia the good guy or the bad guy?
I mean, you know, on Rocky IV, they were the bad guy.
So it was 1985.
He's still cold.
If I can change, you can change, everybody can change.
Oh man, Russia is a good and bad guy.
He's kind of like just flip flopping all the time.
So I don't know.
Who is?
I think Russia.
I think that they've been the good guy.
Why are you saying he though?
Like it's a person?
Because isn't it sweet?
Mother Russia?
Isn't that be she?
It's probably a female for sure.
Are you talking about Putin?
Yeah, Putin.
People are tuning in.
They see Ultimate Election Livestream.
They're thinking there's going to be some in depth geopolitical debates going on, a discussion
and you know, this is what they get.
This is like the worst live stream to be watching for people to actually care about.
Yeah.
But the election gets so boring so fast because they're still just counting nothing.
It's just like, and still nothing.
You've created a whole new genre of podcast.
It's election anti-coverage.
People don't want to talk about the elections.
Pastor Shelley, do you remember George Bush's nickname for Vladimir Putin?
Booty-poot.
There you go.
There's your Texas factoid.
Talked old pooty-poot today.
Our enemies are always trying to hurt us, and so are we.
I'll ask a question that has nothing to do with the election.
Pastor Thompson, you preached a couple of sermons against Mark Ward, and there was a
controversy recently where Ward said that it would be a sin to give a child the King
James Bible because, according to him, it's totally unintelligible.
I'm curious if you guys wanted to talk about that.
We'll start with Pastor Thompson since you recently preached a few sermons.
What do you think about that whole thing?
Yeah.
I mean, I watched, I wasn't going to watch the debate, but I did end up watching the
debate and I thought that the guy he was debating went really easy on him.
And the guy's obviously better at debating and getting his points across, and that's
why sometimes debating is kind of a failed thing.
But yeah, that part of it really pissed me off because in actuality, children are way
easier to get saved, you know, I mean, if you're out just giving the gospel, children
are easier, easier, children and teens are way easier to get saved.
And we give everybody we get saved the Bible, I mean, we buy Bibles in bulk.
And when we get people saved up so many, we just give them a Bible.
And for them to, I mean, you know, the other thing is, is, you know, he's, he's doing
that debate in front of independent fundamental Baptists.
And then he's him in the new King James Version, because he knows he's in front of independent
fundamental Baptists.
And that's supposedly, you know, it's, it's ER based translation.
So he's saying, Hey, you know, go to the new King James.
And then he's, you know, spouting all these, you know, his talking points, his false friends
and all that stuff.
And, you know, he, he, you know, in, in another crowd, he would probably be pushing different
Bible versions because he doesn't really care.
He doesn't, he doesn't care what Bible version it is probably, but he's going to say the
new King James when he's in front of independent fundamental Baptist.
So that's really what got, what got me upset.
And I think he's a piece of crap, unsaved, false prophet, and I have no respect for him
whatsoever.
He sounds like a fag when he talks.
I don't, I'm not saying he is a fag for sure, but I can't say that for sure, but he's definitely
effeminate.
But he's definitely suspect.
So on my list of suspects, I mean, if his wife checked his browsing history, she might
find some interesting things, I don't know.
False friends?
You might find him watching a lot of Kamala videos or something.
Where to vote for Kamala?
I went through and he talks about all these false friends, but I mean, I did some digging
in the New King James and they just completely take sodomites out of all the Old Testament
passages where sodomites are found in the King James, and then they install sodomites
in first Corinthians chapter six, and then I think in, you know, in Timothy, I think
it's a first Timothy chapter four, or first Timothy one, yeah, where it says, you know,
and so they, they take, they, they switch them out and then make it seem like sodomites
can get saved in the New Testament by using first Corinthians six, nine. And so that's
a false friend. You want to talk about false friends. You take out, you say that they're
perverted ones in the New, in the Old Testament instead of calling them sodomites. I mean,
what's, you know, you want to talk about unintelligible? Well, how about just saying perverted ones
instead of saying sodomites? What's, what's more easy to understand? And then is that
really what it says perverted ones? Yeah. Instead of saying they took the sodomites
out of the land, it says the perverted ones. Yeah. Look it up. Are you for real? Yeah,
I'm serious. And then when it says they break down the houses of the sodomites in the King
James, it says something, I can't remember exactly what it says, but they take houses
out and put, it's like, you know, they're trying to make it seem like it's, you know,
some kind of religious worship thing. Yeah. They said they take, it's like a worship hut
or something. I don't know. I can't remember exactly what it says. Something hut. Yeah.
And then it says literally houses. So to say, I didn't even believe you, Pastor Thompson,
until I checked, but you are telling the truth. It says perverted persons. Yeah. Look up the
one. It says he tore down the ritual booths. He tore down the ritual booths of the perverted
persons that were in the house of the Lord. Yeah. That's way more clear, isn't it? Sodom
than the houses of the Thottomites. And it says, look at where it says in the house of
the Lord there, and then in the King James it says they were by the house of the Lord.
So they're trying to make it seem like there was some little pervert cult inside the house
of the Lord that was going on in some kind of like ritual instead of just that they're
faggots, you know. And most of them spell out like male shrine prostitute, male prostitute
or whatever cult shrine male prostitute or something like that. But what's funny is that
I don't see that anywhere on this entire planet. Like there's eight billion people in the world.
I don't think that there's any such thing in a world of eight billion people as male
shrine prostitutes, number one. And number two, I've read the entire Bible cover to cover
many times and I don't see any mention of these type of male shrine prostitutes happening
in the Bible, except in these verses where they're interpreting this one Hebrew word
that way, what the King James interprets as sodomite. And here's what's interesting is
that the way to debunk the stupidity is it says that they had sodomites in the land and
they did according to all the perversions of the nations that the Lord cast out before
the children of Israel. And yet when you read through Leviticus and it goes through all
the sins of the nations that the Lord cast out, and if you go through Deuteronomy and
it talks about all the sins of the nations that the Lord cast out, it never brings up
male prostitution. So it's internally inconsistent. I think that this male shrine prostitute is
made up crap that has probably never even really existed. I mean, everything's existed
in some tiny way somewhere, but I'm saying it wouldn't be necessary for God to put six
verses in the Bible about something that none of us have ever heard of.
Well, what's the point of it really? Because it's like, obviously, it's like a prostitute,
it's kind of a prostitute, like is this specific location really making a huge difference in the
sin? Whereas like sodomy is obviously a completely different sin, completely different thing being
described, something that's common. And I agree with you, like is it reasonable to believe that
in some temple of some false religion or even a good religion at some point prostitution happened?
Sure. But like I, I agree with you. This isn't some like major prevalent societal issue of temple
prostitutes versus prostitutes or something like that. Whereas obviously sodomites is a huge
difference between prostitutes. And so there, you know, it really makes the Bible just have a kind
of like a meaningless, a meaningless portion of scripture. Like it's making some portions of the
Bible. It's kind of meaningless, doesn't really apply, has no impact. And I think it also boasters
the idea of what these people do is you have to go back to the historical context. You have to
understand what the culture was like back then because they had this shrine prostitute thing.
Even stuff that today that we read in the Bible that's not culturally relevant to us in America,
we could still find other parts of the world where it is culturally relevant. Like for example,
you know, we don't have to deal with meat sacrifice to idols. But yeah, we could go to India,
a country with a billion plus people in it, and they are going to have a lot of meat sacrifice
to idols. You know, so it's not like it's just this unknown thing or something. And obviously,
historically, we could point to concrete evidence of these things. But this idea of, you know, male
shrine prostitutes and temples being like a big thing is a fiction, as far as I'm concerned.
I've studied ancient history, I've read the Bible. It is not a thing.
One, it's not a cultural thing anywhere. Because like idolatry, obviously, if you put...
Name the country where it's going on.
Like if you put the Catholic Church aside for a second, you know, idolatry is not necessarily
a huge issue in America. But you look at countries like India, you look at countries that have like
Hinduism or Buddhism or some of this like...
Thailand, China.
Prevalent idolatry. And so, you know, maybe it's not culturally relevant to every American,
but it's culturally relevant in some parts of the world. But it's like, where's the shrine
prostitute thing culturally relevant?
What's the price of a dog? Somebody texted me.
The price of a dog. The price of a sodomite.
All right.
I think...
Hey, real quick, guys. Real quick, pass me here. I'm going to sign off. I just want to say thank
you guys for having me on. I really appreciate it. Shout out real quick to Faithful Word. I'm
really excited to be preaching there this Saturday about Germany and also November 24th. Lord
Willing, Steadfast Baptist Church and OKC will become Anchor Baptist Church, and Pastor Shelley
and Pastor Thompson will be there. So if you're anywhere in the Oklahoma area, we would love to
have you that weekend. But thank you all. God bless. Have a great night.
And you know what? Shout out to Oklahoma because their state wants to order 55,000
King James Bibles and put them into the public school. And so, you know, you guys can be a
bright and shining light out there in the dark world of Oklahoma. And shout out to brother Oz
for his ordination coming up at the end of the month. So thanks so much for joining us. We really
appreciate you having you on. I know Ben is a big fan. So I just say that question. Yeah, go ahead.
I just wanted to answer the question from the chat. Nobody's disputing that there are faggot
male prostitutes in this world, that that's a thing. What we're disputing is that this is like
this big religious problem of these temple male prostitutes, these temple shrine prostitutes,
the ritual booths for the perverted persons. That's what we're disputing. Like nobody's
disputing the fact that I'm sure that there are a ton of dudes selling their bodies to faggots.
Like, I don't think that anybody's debating that. Okay, that's not the issue that we're taking.
Yeah. Pastor Thompson knew what you were going to say.
I was just going to say that what Mark Ward is reporting though about the King James Bible is
that he's saying like the New King James and the other versions are intelligible, more easy to read.
And then you go in and then you recommend the New King James version, which takes out sodomites
and then puts in the word perverted ones or perverted persons. And then the idol huts or
whatever it's like. And then in the footnotes, if you look, Pastor Anderson, if you have it pulled
up, it says in the footnotes, literal, literally houses. So what's better, what was actually
supposed to be there? How's that more literal or more easy to understand than sodomites and the
houses of the sodomites? You know what you're dealing with when it says sodomites. I mean,
maybe modern day we don't, most people don't really know what that is, but you can probably
figure it out. Sodomy, sodomites, perverted one, that can be a lot of different things.
You don't even necessarily have to be a sodomite to be a perverted one, do you? There's a lot
of things that people are perverted. That's pretty vague. So don't say that the King James
is unintelligible. It's just unintelligible to save and people that are morons, but like him,
they just want to, look, this is a gimmick, try to get people off the King James. Doesn't it
undermine foreign languages? Doesn't it undermine foreign languages like what the Spanish says
or the German or the French? What does it say? Do you know what it says in the Spanish Bible,
Pastor Mejia, you know, in some of those passages? I'm assuming it still says, it says solo mitas,
it probably says sodomites. Yeah. So again, it's like even when you correct the quote King James,
in these people's minds, they're not only correcting the King James, they're correcting
like a whole lineage of manuscripts that are coming from the Texas Receptus. They're changing
and saying basically that all of these line of manuscripts are kind of wrong or off.
And that's why we made our film is because it's like, let's take the argument back kind of a
layer to, you know, if you're correcting the King James, you're not just correcting the King James,
you're correcting the Texas Receptus. You're basically correcting this whole lineage,
this whole tree of manuscripts. And you're really attacking that source. And you're kind of,
in many ways, acknowledging and bringing the critical text, which is a completely different
argument than translation. And so I think that that also gets confused with people like Mark
Ward, where they're not trying to provide a better translation of the quote, Texas Receptus,
they're going to the critical text, and then translating from it and saying, well, this
actually matches the Greek better. But it's like a completely different argument than
just a translation suggestion or something like that.
I have election news. Oh, go ahead. A battleground state has just gone for Trump. North Carolina
has been called for Trump. There we go. This was one of the ones. Someone's keeping us
in line here. I think that was like a while ago. I know. I think this is saying official.
We didn't talk about it yet though. Yeah, we didn't. We didn't call it. So we're
fine. Pastor Anderson has called North Carolina. I don't mean to rain on your parade. Never
mind. Go for it. No, I mean, hold on a second. Go to my screen if you can. I thought this
is like the first like truly battleground state that has gone for Trump. Yeah. No, you're
not for anybody for that matter. I think that you're right. I think Georgia is really close.
I think that some did call it for Georgia too, but you're right. Election Wizard. Hold
on. Election Wizard had North Carolina winner Donald Trump an hour ago. That's why I'm
saying that. Yeah, okay, but I'm talking about on Google. I'm not talking about the witch
at indoor. Google just called it. My fault. Also, I do want to give a quick shout out
to Florida because Florida had a kind of an amendment for is what it was called an amendment
to basically extend abortion beyond their current six week ban. And it actually failed,
which to me is actually a pretty good sign that not only, you know, not only obviously
that the Republican Party votes for Trump, you know, you could say like, well, that's
a lot of Democrats and left leaning people that are mixed in there. But but if they're
going to put this, you know, amendment down and not vote for it, that seems like there's
still a lot of conservatives in the Republican movement. And there's at least still a lot
of people that are against something like this. So I feel like that's a positive sign
in general. That's a white pill. I'm not saying that obviously, I think abortion should just
be off the table. And I think a lot of people believe that. But at least, you know, of a
majority of Florida said, no, we don't want to make this even worse. It's worthy of a
fist bump, right? Yeah, there we go. All right. You know, we're going to Miami, Miami soul
hunting marathon, 15th and the 16th. I'm excited to get out there. I'll be there. And you know,
I'm glad that we, uh, you know, have this news about the abortion, uh, you know, being extended
smack down and you know, that's been some soft wins. Obviously going back to the States
was a good win. The Roe v. Wade overturned the six week ban has probably eliminated some
abortions and probably prevented some, I don't know for sure, but I would assume that it
has. And so that at least they move in the right direction. So shout out to Florida for
that. I want to just say one last thing on the Mark Ward. He often will say, "You could
have your TR and read it too," in his faggity voice, and he's referring to the New King
James Bible. He loves to push the NKJV, but it's so disingenuous because the NKJV, and
I know you guys already know this, but for the audience, the NKJV departs from the received
text. And what I mean by that is it changes 1 Corinthians 1, 18, for example, to match
the critical text. Additionally, and some people don't think this is a big deal, but
I think it's a big deal, that when you look at some of the additional notes that they
have in the New King James Bible, it'll literally cast doubt on the text, and it'll tell you,
"Oh, here's what the Nestle-Allen Greek New Testament says," or the UBS 5 says, or whatever,
and it's like, "Why do I care?" This is supposed to be a received text Bible, so that's totally
disingenuous. And then one last thing, he brings up also these false friends. I'm curious,
have you guys looked into the list of "false friends"? I know Pastor Thompson, you have,
but Pastor Aderson, Pastor Mejia, these words that supposedly have changed meaning over
time, for example, he says "study" doesn't mean "study," "mansions" don't mean "mansions."
Is there any validity at all to some of these words that he brings up that supposedly have
changed?
There's definitely validity to a lot of the ones that he brings up, but then he just brings
up a bazillion of them that have no validity, because here's the thing.
There are legitimately false friends in the KJV, but it's a very short list, and so if
he actually stuck to the real false friends, it would be a short list, and it'd be like,
"Okay, whatever.
Learn those 10 words.
Not a big deal.
Move on."
But then he wants to kind of pad the list, so then he starts bringing in a bunch of crap
that isn't true.
He's wrong on 2 Timothy 2.15.
I debunked him.
I did a whole video debunking him on that, and the example I like to bring up as a false
friend is "nephew" in 1 Timothy 5 does not mean what we think it means.
There are other legitimate examples, too.
That seems like the biggest one to me.
What about "conversation"?
Yeah, but think about "conversation" is another good example.
That could legitimately be called a false friend, but I feel like "nephew" is the only
one where you would actually probably get the wrong idea unless somebody explained it
to you.
Whereas "conversation" you can usually tell...if you read enough Bible, you'd figure it out
from the context.
I think Pastor Mejia was going to jump in too, though, so...
No, I was going to say on the whole temple prostitutes thing is obviously a lot of that,
the King James says sodomite because of the fact that it wants you to kind of make that
connection to that connotation to Genesis 19 and Judges 19.
And any time you read the term sodomite, it kind of brings that entire story back along
with all their evil and wicked deeds and the fact that they're hated of the Lord, they're
exceedingly evil in the eyes of God and that they're capable of rape.
So it has all of these associations with that, whereas if they just slip in their temple
prostitute, it kind of just washes all that off and you don't really know what it's talking
about.
It doesn't just be referring to anything, so obviously it's intentional to change it
from sodomy to temple prostitute because of the fact that a lot of these liberal type
churches and guys who use these modern versions of the Bible, they don't want to just look
at homos as being unredeemable or something like that, and wicked and rapists and child
molesters and all that, and so it's just more convenient for them to go with these modern
versions that simply put them as temple prostitutes, and I've talked to people online about that,
and they'll try to correct me and say, "Oh, you're wrong about the whole sodomite issue.
These are actually just temple prostitutes," and we all know that prostitutes can be saved.
Harlots can be saved, prostitutes can be saved.
They can come to the same knowledge of Jesus Christ.
There's many in the New Testament that got saved, and so obviously it's a perversion
of that text to say that it's temple prostitutes because that's not what it's referring to.
Talking about sodomites and a shocking development, it looks like Kamala Harris is winning the
San Francisco area, and that's 75%.
But look, there's a righteous remnant.
There's 22% that is voting for Trump, so that's why God hasn't nuked it yet.
When it gets down to 10 people ...
We had a great soul winning marathon in San Francisco a while back.
Oh yeah.
Didn't y'all have over 100 soul winners?
Pastor Mejia?
Didn't your window get smashed, Pastor Mejia?
Yeah, our van got smashed and the luggage was taken and broad daylight and all that.
Yeah.
I mean, we got a lot of people saved and stuff.
I walked into a donut shop with Pastor Mejia and he just started speaking Cambodian.
It just kind of blew my mind.
He just busted out with Cambodian with the Cambodian donut shop people.
Oh man.
That's what happened.
I just remember ...
The Chinese people.
We were talking and all we knew it was COVID, like wash up, wash up, wash up, wash up.
Yeah, it was 2020, so you'd hear them just chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug,
chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug.
The funniest thing in San Francisco that we saw is walking down the sidewalks and looking
at the cars on the street, they had signs on the window that said, "Please don't break
my window.
I have no money in here," or, "I have no change in here."
You forgot to put up your sign, basically.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I did.
One last thing about Mark Ward though, I'm sorry, I'm pissed off about this.
I hate you.
So, here's some more false friends for the new King James.
How about saying, "The rich man lift up his eyes," and "Hades being in torments."
How about using "Hades" and "Sheol," and you made a perfect example of that in your
film, New World Literature Bible Versions, where you said, "Hey, have you ever heard
of 'Sheol' or 'Hades'?" And people are like, "Sheol?"
"Sheol" is a protective cover.
Yeah, it's like, you did "The Man on the Street" with that, and people totally failed
the test. It's like, "Oh, yeah, so there's your false friends for hell. They don't even
translate hell in there. They leave it untranslated as the transliteration into the Greek." It's
just like, that's more easy to understand, right, Mark Ward, you friggin' idiot?
Just to clear something up, I should have asked this earlier, but Mark Ward is the guy
that made videos trying to debunk Pastor Anderson with all the fancy production, right? Is that
him? Is that the guy?
I don't think he had fancy production. I think he's just—
Is he the red-haired guy?
Yeah.
Maybe.
He had some fancy camera trying to debunk you, and then Pastor Anderson just destroyed
him with his phone, with his phone for the car video.
Yeah, I took him to school on that Deuteronomy, the typo, and I was making the video in my
car and just kind of—
On the way to class?
The he-be-to-be, the he-be-to-be thing.
I mean, here's the thing. I can't stand Mark Ward at all, and I can't stand listening
to him speak ever, but I have to say, of all of our enemies, at least he admitted he was
wrong. It seems like there's so many enemies that'll never admit that they're wrong.
Okay, but in the video though, he's like, "Well, I was a little bit wrong, but…"
And then he's just still saying that he's right about a bunch of stuff. I agree with
you that it was refreshing that it at least took a little bit of responsibility, but he
does…
I'm not saying he came all our way. I'm just saying he did at least say he was wrong,
which it almost seems like I never see that from our enemies. So you know what's kind
of interesting?
That's true.
In his video, I believe it was his video, he shows a screenshot of the bishop's Bible
that actually was pretty good evidence that there was a typo in the King James. If you
look at this screenshot of the bishops that he had…
I wish we could find where that was because I think a friend sent it to him.
The bishop's Bible was marked up by the translators in committee what they were going
to say in their translation. Because remember the King James Bible is a revision of the
bishop's Bible.
Yeah.
So it was a bishop's Bible that they had marked up and the way that they had marked
it up was that it matched exactly with the King James. So it was like a smoking gun to
prove that the King James translators got it right and that the printer had introduced
a typo.
Right.
And then he put it on the screen as evidence in his favor because he was misreading it.
And then I proved that he was misreading it and then he admitted, "Oh, yeah, I was misreading
it."
I would love to get a copy of whatever that is because it looked really interesting to
see this bishop's Bible.
It didn't have the heebie-toobie so that showed that...
It's in a museum.
...there was a typo.
It was an interesting proof.
Is it an interesting one?
It was an interesting proof.
Is that the King James that he was showing that from?
Yeah, but I don't think that there does not seem to exist an electronic copy of the whole
thing, I don't think, but I think maybe part of it's been digitized and it's not necessarily
every section because what it is is it's just the committee that was working on the Pentateuch
or something.
So it's not going to be like the whole Bible.
It's just the Old Testament.
Yeah, it's just okay.
Not even just the Old Testament.
Yeah, it's just the first five.
Just the Pentateuch.
Just the first five books or something.
It's the Torah.
Yeah.
I was watching that film, KJB, and it kind of has some acting stuff in it and it showed
like that guy found a copy of a fully intact bishop's Bible that was given to, I think
it was given away to, anyway, they found it, he found it in a room or something.
You know what I'm talking about?
What film I'm talking about?
It's like the guy that played in Indiana Jones, who's like Indiana Jones.
Yeah.
It's a really good, it's a really good film.
I highly recommend.
It's called KJB, the book that changed the world.
And it's like, I think they call that like a docu-drama maybe or something.
Is it the British one?
I don't know if that's the right word.
But the actor that plays King James is awesome.
And by the way, I did a lot of historical research when I was working on the New World
Order Bible Versions film.
And I believe that that KJB book that changed the world film is extremely historically accurate.
Like a lot of the things that King James says in the acting sequences are actually historical
quotes attributed to him.
So it's very, very accurate and just an entertaining watch.
Well, and a lot of people falsely accuse him of being a sodomite King James.
And I think that Dr. Stringer had put out a rebuttal to that that was pretty good.
And I think that that whole he's part of a movement, the King James Bible Research Council.
And it seems like they're a pretty, a pretty good group of individuals that, you know,
support the Texas Receptus, support the King James Bible, and they're pretty easy.
Yeah, I want to bring up about them.
I went to their conference this year, and I sat through, like, literally, like, I don't
know, I feel like it was like at least nine or ten hours of sessions or something because
it was just like two days and they just had so many sessions.
So I heard, like, I don't know, 11 different preachers or something, and it was, it was
very good.
Like some of it was better than others, but it was all in general pretty good.
So I, let's just give a shout out that the next one is going to be on May 1st and 2nd
in Oshkosh, Wisconsin.
So if anybody's interested out there watching this, I think that that conference is worth
attending.
It's a pretty good conference and it's May 1st and 2nd in Oshkosh, Wisconsin.
I'm not a hundred percent that I'll be there, but I probably will show up to that to be
honest, you know.
Yeah.
I was thinking about going out there too, inviting some of our church to maybe go attend
because it's a lot of fun.
I really, I really feel like that subject, there's a lot to learn still, even after,
you know, New World or Bible version is probably my favorite documentary.
And then the Preserve Bible was able, we were able to even uncover some more stuff.
And even in these sessions and in these groups, I feel like there's still a lot of information
that's beneficial.
In fact, King James had written a letter to his son or a book to his son, a lot of
good information in there.
He really hates smoking, which was kind of funny to me, how much he just abhors smoking.
It's funny to me that that was a huge deal in the 1600s or something like that, but he
really, really hates ... I mean, it's like Martin Luther on the Jews, but it's King James
on faggots, I mean smoking.
So he probably hates both, honestly.
Yeah, and his pamphlet against smoking, it's not that long and you can easily read it online.
Just Google King James pamphlet against smoking, it's only a few pages I think, it's pretty
interesting.
Well, it's the 5th of November tonight, so it's a pretty good night to start.
Yes, appropriate time to discuss this.
So speaking of that, I am having a King James conference, which is going to be May 15th
to 8th.
Nice.
Pastor Mejia and Pastor Anderson are preaching at it, they've already confirmed, and then
Dr. Stringer is going to be preaching on Sunday.
So that's what I've got so far coming to it.
Sounds great.
And so I've invited everybody else here.
Wow, I'm excited.
But that's happening, it's confirmed.
When is that again?
That's May 15th through 18th.
Nice.
I want to go.
So we'll go to the King James Research Council, we'll get all our talking points on the first
and the second writer's sermon, and then a couple weeks later we'll just…
Just re-preach it.
Re-preach it.
Regurgitate what we learned, just cram it all into one sermon, you know.
Amen.
That's funny.
The last one you had was really good.
I really appreciated it.
It was a lot of fun.
Your church decorated the church really nice, and it was a good turnout.
That was the only sermon that I've done against Mark Ward, was the one that I preached
at Shur Foundation at the King James Conference.
I preached in a strong language at the King JB, and I was responding to a Mark Ward video.
I think it's funny because I never knew about Tip or Gore until that sermon.
I had never really heard about that.
I'm going to tell the story why I always bring up Tip or Gore because when I was a teenager,
I had this friend and we listened to a lot of the same music as a public school friend.
We listened to a lot of the same music, and he was telling me that this band that we liked
or this artist that we like had just come out with a new album, and he's like, "Oh,
you got to get the new album," or whatever.
Then I saw him a few days later, he's like, "Hey, did you get that album?"
I was like, "Oh, I was going to buy it," but I said ... I saw that it had a parental
advisory on it.
I was like, "I didn't want to buy it because I felt like there might be something bad in
it."
He's like, "Says who?
Tipper Gore?"
I was just like, "That just kind of stuck with me," because I guess Tipper Gore had
some kind of a campaign about putting those advisories on albums that had a lot of profanity
or something.
I don't even know really Tipper Gore's involvement.
Someone says something to you in an offhand comment one time, 25, 30 years ago, it just
kind of sticks with you.
Do we have to put some kind of a warning label on King James Bibles now or something like
that?
That's how much politics have changed.
She was a Democrat.
That was Al Gore's wife.
She was the spearhead against profanity.
Let me fact check this, see if it's even real.
Let me Google it real quick.
It's real.
She was like against like a two live crew, she was like an NWA and all that stuff.
She was...
It is weird because wasn't Democrats like the freedom of speech people?
She was the main person behind the parental advisory label apparently.
I'm on the Wikipedia page, parental advisory, and it's a picture of Tipper Gore.
What is NWA?
Wow.
Are you trying to trap us, Ben?
Thanks, Ben.
It's a new IFB with attitude.
Nobody knows what the new IFB is anymore.
We're confused about like who's in and who's out, so nobody knows what the new IFB is,
so we'll split your acronym to NWA, the new and inevitable lab with attitude.
I agree with that.
It's confusing to me.
It's like people act like it's some sort of organization or something.
Give me a break.
No, it's like Matt first was just saying something.
He's like, "I was invited to join the new IFB and I..."
What was that?
He said that he received a phone call asking him to join the new IFB.
I've never even gotten this call.
How do I get in?
I feel like I'm missing out.
Is this like a secret?
The dues are $99 a year.
Is there a secret handshake at the temple or something like that?
It's like a subscription.
Brother Shelley, would you like to join the new IFB?
I don't even know what that means.
It's so weird.
I'm nervous now.
People are weird.
I remember this pastor told me that one of his church members came up to him after a
previous controversy in like 2019, and he tells him, "Hey, I just want to let you know,
pastor.
I'm leaving the new IFB.
I'm leaving the movement."
The pastor's like, "Okay.
Are you still going to my church?"
He's like, "Yeah."
I'm like, "What does that mean then?
Do you still believe the same things?"
"Yes.
I'm just leaving the movement."
"Okay."
I mean, again, I thought that it was just like a belief system in general.
And so, you know, like to me, even if we all went away, the new IFB still just exists
in the minds of people, because it's like people that love soul winning, love family
integrated church, they love the King James Bible, they're against repent of your sins
for salvation.
And I think that forever, the course of IFB has been changed by the "new IFB" because
there's been so much of a change in the mentality for a lot of people that it's going to be
forever different.
It's like when they say, "This is the guy that turned the world upside down," people
are going to have an appetite now for family integrated churches that are zealous for soul
winning, that are King James only, that are against repent of your sins, and it doesn't
matter if they're friends with certain people or not.
That has dramatically changed.
There's plenty of people that would say they're "not in the new IFB," but they're still 99.9%
the exact same as all of us.
They're listening to our stream right now.
No, I'm saying like-
They believe in all the doctrines.
You go to their church, and I kid you not, they'll do two songs that are hymns from the
exact same hymnal that I use, then they'll do announcements, then they'll do a third
song that's from the exact same hymnal that we use, and then they'll read an entire chapter,
and then they'll preach in a very similar style, and then they're zealous for soul-winning,
have family-agreed services, and I'm like, "What's the difference?"
So is that a faithful word, like, that's where it started?
No, no, no.
I'm just saying that it's like funny to me how people are literally like 99.9999% the
same.
I see.
And then they want to be like, because I'm this .0001% different on whatever that is-
I'm leaving the movement.
Like, no one outside would think that they are different.
Here's what I think is so funny is that all these people are talking about like, oh, the
new IFB is done, the downfall of the new IFB, the rise and fall of the new IFB.
What does that even mean when the churches that are in the so-called movement are all
growing and thriving and they're still, you know, big successful churches?
Like, how is the movement dying, but then the individual churches are having record-breaking
attendances?
Like, but the movement died, like what does that even mean?
Because basically what they mean is, oh, the new IFB used to have a whole bunch of posers
that were attached to them and then a bunch of posers left, so there's not as many member
churches.
Well, it's funny because it seems like all the big churches are still in.
But I'm just saying even these ones that are saying, "I don't want to be that anymore,"
they're still 99.999% similar and they're still going forward.
They haven't even stopped.
And so I would say there's even more people being reached with a church that has this
new IFB doctrine than ever before.
And even if they all keep splitting and fracturing and whatever, it's like this movement, a little
11, 11 is the whole lump, we are forever changing the course of action.
And I've said this consistently and I think you've agreed with me, Pastor Anderson, it's
like not everybody's going to be exactly like the new IFB or like us, but some people we
just drag a little bit closer, right?
Like some people we just drawing them a little bit more similar.
Yeah.
I'm even influencing Presbyterians, obviously that's like way different than us.
I've had Presbyterian pastors say to me, "Hey, you know, you're influencing us, we're listening
to you, don't change, we appreciate you on this, this and that even though we disagree
on X, Y and Z."
When I went to that, what was it called, the Kep Pure in All Ages conference, I had multiple
Presbyterian pastors come up to me and say that they appreciated my preaching and stuff.
So, you know, the point is that yeah, we've influenced people and that influence is never
going to go away is what you're saying.
Yeah.
It's never good.
We're not trying to build some organization, you know, we're not trying to build an organization
or have control of the kingdom.
Even all of these people who've kind of like attached themselves to us over the years and
then broken away from us over the years, they still go away acting like us, talk like us,
be like, you know what I mean?
And then it's like, okay, oh, but you're not, you're not new IFB anymore.
And it's like I said, nobody really even knows what new IFB even means anymore because I
don't think anybody ever knew for sure what it meant because it means different things
to different people.
Yeah, if they said like, hey, I'm leaving the Baptist bias, but then they still have
a Baptist bias mentally, then it's like, okay, well, mission accomplished.
Like you don't have to watch my show to have the Baptist bias, but it's like, and there's
plenty of people that have watched our show that are Catholic, non-Christian, you know,
every denomination you could think of.
And we're just trying to influence them a little bit more like us having a little bit
more of the Baptist bias and being a little bit more King James or whatever the issue
is.
Like we're just trying to reach people where they're at, make them a little bit, you know,
more like us and try to, try to encourage people to make better decisions in their life.
No one's going to do everything like us.
I mean, it's so funny when people act like our churches or my church does everything
I say, you know, as if it's like I, I preach to them and tell them all kinds of stuff.
They never do what I'm wanting them to say.
Like we're never going to reach people a hundred percent.
No one in our churches are going to do everything that we say.
I do everything.
Yeah.
Except for Ben.
Obviously Ben does everything that I tell him to do.
He is, he is my puppet, but I'm just saying like quit Indian food right now.
I'm just kidding.
But it's like, we're only just trying to reach people.
And I've always said this, being a pastor, my viewpoint is just to help people serve
Christ better.
So as long as they're making some good moves, they're training in the right direction, like
mission accomplished, you know?
And I think the new IFB as a movement, that's what we're doing, we're making people a little
bit better, and even if they don't want to go all the way, it is what it is.
I remember Pastor Anderson saying years ago, like at the end of the day, one day, the new
IFB is not even going to exist, we're just going to be called independent fundamental
Baptist churches, as all independent fundamental Baptist churches are.
Because we're like the new generation of fundamental Baptists, introducing a superior way of doing
certain things, and strengthening other things that came from the old IFB.
And then after a while, like now, we're just independent fundamental Baptist.
But at the end of the day, people who don't agree with the new IFB are still like the
new IFB in a lot of ways, in practice and in belief.
You know, and what it is, is they just don't want to associate with certain people.
But that's how the old IFB is though.
The old IFB is literally broken up into like various camps, and they all practice and believe
the same exact thing, even though they don't want to associate with each other.
Oh yeah, dozens and dozens, if not hundreds of camps in the IFB.
And then there's probably, I mean, plenty of IFBs that are literally just in the camp
by themselves.
Like they're just kind of like, just doing their own thing and just not really even.
Those are the truly independent.
Yeah, those are the, yeah, they don't rub shoulders with anybody.
You have to just live in like a really small town and you're just not, you just, we're
the true independent.
Nobody agrees with us.
Just a match about how, who was more independent through like half their podcast, like, oh
no, I'm more independent than you.
It's like, is that what we're trying to do at the end of the day is be so independent
that we're just the most independent.
Which church is like that in the Bible?
I don't know.
It's just so independent.
Deutrophes.
Deutrophes Baptist Church.
I mean, I'm like-
All went up to Jerusalem and they had like a big council about things to try to figure
stuff out.
Can you imagine how offended some of these people would be when you get an Epistle and
it's like to the seven churches which are in Asia?
It's like, "I don't want to be associated with that Sardar Baptist church.
How dare they lump me together with them?"
It's like Jesus is talking to seven different churches and I mean they're all in a major
different scale of success.
They're not all in line with that.
The part that I heard of that podcast is basically just two pastors getting together and just
gossiping about a situation that has nothing to do with them and they were both just like
praising themselves the whole time.
What podcast are you guys talking about?
It was Gently Led Mr. as well as Matt Furze, the non-soul winner, and basically they were
just bragging the whole time about how I figured out all this stuff on my own and I didn't
learn this stuff from Pastor Anderson and they're just talking about how great they
are.
And they're acting like God just randomly decided to use me, like God just rolled the
dice and he just picked me at random because he's like, "Well, look how messed up Pastor
Anderson is.
If God can use Pastor Anderson, think about what he could do with me because I'm so much
better than Pastor Anderson.
So if God could do great things with Pastor Anderson, then God could do great things with
me too."
It's like, "Well, yeah, but you'd have to start acting like Pastor Anderson if you want
to get used by Pastor Anderson."
If God can do so much better things with you, then why isn't He?
Didn't someone in the Bible say, "We're all holy"?
Why are you lifting yourselves up above the congregation?
I thought that we were all holy.
Number 16.
Yeah, but my point is that the old IFB, they sit around praying for revival because they
think revival, you never know where it's going to strike or something, and that basically
God just randomly picks a pastor and just uses him greatly.
The reality is that in order to be used by God, you have to be filled with the spirit
of God, and you have to be available, and you have to actually get up and preach the
Bible and do all those things, and I do believe that anybody could easily duplicate any of
the success that I've had, and I think many people have done that successfully, but he's
not one of them.
It's not like, "Wow!
What could God do with me?
Well, I don't know.
When's he going to do it, bro?"
In Calvinism, you have irresistible grace, so do they have this doctrine of irresistible
revival, that you're just kind of doing your own thing?
And then just out of nowhere, you have just instant revival that you can't even resist.
You're just on fire with zeal that wasn't even there.
You're just walking along and it just, maybe it's like Saul, like Saul's just going out
to kill David and then randomly just gets naked and starts preaching the Bible like
irresistible revival style or something like that.
I don't, I'm just, I'm not sure.
I'm not really...
Maybe when they talked about the rise, maybe when they talked about the rise and fall of
the new IP, the rise was referring to us and the fall was referring to them, you know what
I mean?
Because I haven't really seen them do much.
Well it's kind of hard...
Like my church is doing great.
We had a record breaking attendance this past Sunday, got a ton of salvations, 218 in church,
keeps growing.
I'm not really seeing what they're talking about.
All the real ones are doing great.
I don't know if there's much of a fall there, but you have to be pretty high to fall.
It's over.
It's wrapped up.
Step down.
It's done.
Well, Pastor Mejia, your church has been around for how long now?
Going on eight years.
Yeah, because you guys just had an anniversary, right?
Yeah.
And your church, right?
Yeah.
This year, we're about to see approximately about 1,000 salvations, about 35 baptisms
that we've had throughout the year.
We had 218 in church on Sunday.
And a lot of the people in our church, believe it or not, are not new IFB people.
They're people that people in our church have reached, because we're reaching new people.
I'm bringing people in to the new IFB.
Man, how do you get so many baptisms?
New IFB doctrine.
We're all Mexican out here, because they're all former Catholics, they like to get baptized.
Well, and then if you baptize a Mexican, then all their extended family shows up, too, right?
Exactly.
See, it's like a quinceañera, but it's like baptism style.
It's like they all come.
I will say that our baptisms are lower than last year.
Last year, we had like 60 baptisms, but that's because we're in Belize, and we had major
revival in Belize, and we had a bunch of salvations and baptisms over there.
But I got like 10,000 followers on Instagram, and a lot of them are not new IFB, and I'm
introducing people to new IFB doctrine, and so I don't see a fall in that area.
Someone's asking me like, "Why Pastor Mahia gets all these baptisms?"
Like, "Well, they have a lot of Mexicans over there, so they like to get the baptisms
in because they're Catholic."
I thought that was funny.
We like to strike while the iron is hot, and we just ask them right away.
Hey, well, you know what, we have a baptism competition in our church, so we like have
all of our soul owners broken up into tribes, and we're doing this baptism competition,
and only one person, like we just started it.
Only one person had got it, and it was three people, and they were all Hispanic.
So there you go.
All right.
It works.
Hey, it was a whole family.
They just came to church, and they got saved, and wanted to get baptized, so.
A button for a quick commercial break, and then we'll go right back to what you guys
are talking about.
I keep getting heat for using this page, but it's really good.
Election Wizard says that Pennsylvania, Trump, 51.3%, Harris, 47.8%, with 80% reporting as
of about 14 minutes ago.
That's all I have to say.
Right back to you, Pastor Shelley.
Yeah.
Not a lot has really changed on the map.
They're getting a little bit closer.
I think Georgia is pretty similar too, 50.8%, 48% for Harris, and they're at 93% total count.
Well, this is looking like a Trump slide.
It's looking like he's going to even win the popular vote.
Okay, so here's a pathway for Trump to victory, okay, because he's got 230, right?
Yeah.
If he's looking good for Pennsylvania and Georgia, that's 35 electors, so that puts
him up to 265, so if he can do Georgia and Pennsylvania, then all he has to do is just
get one of either Arizona, Wisconsin or Minnesota, which he's leading all three of those.
Or Nevada.
So if he can just get Georgia and PA plus one other state, then he's got it.
Yeah, I mean those are probably the two most important, is Georgia and Pennsylvania, and
they'll probably decide, and I'm not going to be surprised when they won't even tell
us tonight.
Infowars is saying, "Election bombshell Trump on path to declare victory within an hour."
Now he's known for bombastic headlines, but-
Do you believe everything that Infowars has been?
The answer?
I don't-
Answer the question.
I just went to you.
Answer the question.
Wait, he wasn't paying attention.
He forgot what the question was.
What's your question?
He doesn't remember.
Can you hear me?
He's going to plead the Thompson defense.
Someone says Alaska is going to go red.
Well, Pastor Thompson, aren't you coming to see us this week?
I'm here, baby.
He's already there.
I'm here right now.
What the heck?
You're already in Arizona?
He said he was in Tempe.
Why aren't you guys-
No one's listening.
There's the Pastor Thompson moment.
You guys should be doing the stream from the same room.
I know.
I'll see you tomorrow, man.
I'm glad you're here.
I'd like to get in early.
Pastor Mejia, when do you arrive?
Pastor Mejia?
I'm not going.
I wasn't invited.
We're two- we're independent, remember?
Come on, man.
It's a strict-
You're coming to Preach For Me on December 1st, though.
Are you backing out?
Is that on the calendar already or what?
Is that on the calendar?
Dude, are you serious right now?
Are you serious?
Yeah.
I'm Preaching For Me on December 1st, though.
Are you backing out?
Is that on the calendar already or what?
Is that on the calendar?
I'm Preaching At Your Church on December 1st, and you're Preaching At Mine, remember
the pulpit swap?
That's your Pastor Thompson moment.
This is how we invite people.
This is like those videos where the guy proposes on livestream in front of a lot of people,
and then she acts like, "Oh, I don't know."
I don't even know him, he's my brother.
I'm pretty sure it's on my church website events page.
Let me look at it.
Go to faithfordbaphis.org and go to events December 1st, Pastor Bruce Mejia, Puginet,
Faithful Word.
There it is.
Is that a Sunday?
Oh, it is a Sunday.
All right.
Sounds good.
Good thing we had this show, so everybody can...
Yeah, that would have been awkward if you showed up to LA and Pastor Mejia was still
there.
It's like, "Oh, what are you doing here?"
I want to get your feedback, Ben.
Are we going to have some kind of a declaration tonight, or you think we're just...
I think it's a Trump slide.
I think that this will be over by the time we all go home.
Donald Trump's the next president of the United States of America.
Was it brought to you by McDonald's?
I think doing that whole McDonald's stunt is what actually won him the election in my
mind.
Do you think Trump's gone for the third consecutive time in a row, huh?
Third consecutive victory tonight for Donald J. Trump.
I am officially calling the election right now.
Wow.
That's a bold move because I think it's pretty close.
Biden called everybody garbage.
That was big too.
He called everybody that supports Donald Trump garbage.
I guess I just thought that that was a taken.
Everybody's like offended.
I was like, isn't that how he's always felt about us?
I don't know.
Yeah, but to say it out loud, being the president, like half the country or over half the country
was...
Didn't they make a whole, they made like a whole statement where he, they like put an
apostrophe on and like some statement to claim that he didn't call us all trash or something.
What it said.
It was like, he didn't say all the supporters are trash.
He said all the supporters with apostrophe.
And then they altered the official transcript that he was saying in that conference call
officially altered it, made up stuff that he didn't, you know, they changed it.
What does Biden even do anymore?
Like is he, does he do, is he alive?
Does he do anything presidential?
The real question is who's actually running our country?
Is anyone?
Israel has really been running this country for the last four years.
It feels like no one's running it a little bit too.
Somebody is.
Well, yeah.
Somebody is making these rules and laws and going after Trump.
But I mean the president does stuff, right?
Like the president is overviewing, like reviewing things, making executive decisions, calling
people, doing, you know, foreign policy.
Like there's responsibilities that the president is supposed to partake in and it seems like
that just not happening.
He hasn't been doing, he hasn't been doing all the stuff he's supposed to be doing.
The first day he was in office, he just had this like big stack of things he was supposed
to sign and it was just like basically just rescinding all the policies that-
Yeah, but just in, I don't know if this is in Biden's defense, but just Biden, because
he kind of got this vote of no confidence where he had the nomination and then had to
step down because of his cognitive problems, he's a total lame duck.
So he can't really be effective.
So that's why he's not doing much, because he can't.
It's sort of like the incumbent, if they lose the election, they're a lame duck.
Well, he's already been a lame duck for many months because of the cognitive thing.
But he was that way when he got elected.
He's been that way since he's been elected.
So it's almost like, I mean, if you want to look at the conspiracy side of it, and it's
almost like if they really want another idiot to be in there that they can control, well,
they really got a big one in Kamala Harris.
So I mean, she, she doesn't even do interviews, like, who's ever seen that?
Like, she's done like a few, right, but pretty rare.
Yeah, but they're all, you know, softball questions.
I mean, Joe Biden didn't even have to do interviews.
I mean, no one's I've just never, you know, I've been around a while and I've just never
seen anything like I've seen in the last, like, three elections, where people don't
get asked real questions, only the Republicans get asked hard questions and get attacked
the way that they do, just really weird. So it used to be just a completely different
setup. Now it's just like some shadow governments kind of just controlling everything and press
is protected.
This graph just keeps showing the same thing, huh? I just keep seeing the same graph over
and over again.
Yeah, I haven't seen much. You can, you can go back to...
You just got to go to bed and you wake up and it'll, it'll be there. Maybe.
Maybe.
I'm going to bed. Good night, everyone.
Well, thanks. Thanks for your serial contributions.
Thanks for coming up.
It's life.
That was quick.
Boom.
Dang.
That was a, that was a fake, that was a fake exit, but this time I'm really leaving.
I was like, wow, you really wanted to go.
There we go.
All right.
Well.
Thanks for joining.
Thanks, Pastor Ederson.
I'm heading out as well.
Pastor Mejia.
Thanks for coming on.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me on.
Had a great time.
Appreciate you.
Yeah, God bless.
I was supposed to be on here for 30 minutes, but...
West Coast, the best coast.
Hey, Pastor Bahia, if you stayed on longer than planned, then it wasn't so bad then,
right?
No, it was good.
It was fun.
Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
Really enjoyed you.
Except for the political stuff.
That was okay.
Yeah.
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There you go.
Amen.
See you guys.
Have a good night.
Yeah, God bless.
Have a good one.
Hey, Pastor Thompson.
Good night.
I think we can go to our 3B view.
So, Pastor Shelley.
Yes.
You don't think that the footnotes in the New King James are a problem?
Well, I mean, I think they're all different, right?
Oh, but I'm saying, like, when it says, "Hey, the Nestle Ellen says this, UBS 5 says that,"
I feel like that's a big issue.
Yeah, obviously.
I mean, you know, when I think of footnotes, I kind of think of a more famous New King
James translation, the John MacArthur one.
Oh, I see what you mean.
I'm sorry.
And so, I was saying, like, sometimes they have -- I guess maybe that's commentary more
than it is footnotes.
That's a commentary.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Are the footnotes consistent in all New King James?
Yeah.
They all cast doubt on the text.
They'll tell you 1 John 5, 7, the Comma Johannium is not supposed to be in the Bible.
They cast doubt on the real ending of Mark chapter 16.
Which Pastor Thompson, I think that's how you referred to it as well, if I remember
correctly.
I really like that designation for the real ending of Mark.
But I just feel like the New King James is the Republican Party of Bible versions where
people say, "Oh, you know, you should just use that one.
It's called the King James, but it's really not a King James Bible just as the Republican
Party is not really conservative."
I think it's the worst version because it's kind of like the way to get, if you're going
to get somebody off the King James, that's what you're going to get them with.
That's what he's doing.
Yeah.
It's the gateway drug.
Yeah, it is the gateway drug to get you, well, it's the received, it's the TR.
It's based on the TR.
So like, they didn't even really use the TR per se when they use it.
They used a different kind of version of it that went away from the TR over 1800 times.
I think, so are they just then using the majority text instead of the received text?
Yeah.
They're also preferring the modern versions and the modern renderings.
If they don't change it, then they'll just say something about it in the margins.
See, this is something-
Like the long ending of Mark, the quote-unquote long ending of Mark.
This is something that people often get a little bit confused on is they think, "Well,
okay, we believe in the majority text every time," but that's actually not the case because
it is true that there are certain readings in the King James Bible, Ephesians 3.9 being
one of them, 1 John 5.7 being one of them, that are actually a "minority reading," meaning
that there's a minority of Greek witnesses that substantiate it.
And that's okay, because what matters to us is whether the reading has been received and
passed down from generation to generation.
Now, a vast majority of the text can be backed up by a majority of Greek manuscripts, but
in those few places where there's a minority of manuscript witnesses for that reading,
it doesn't bother us at all, because we believe in the received text, that which has been
preserved, but those people who are on the majority text only, they actually don't even
believe in 1 John 5-7 as a result of that.
Yeah, well, I mean, they put a footnote in that one, too, and I mean, the only thing
that they change in the verse is spirit versus ghost, which means the same thing, so that's
not a problem. But then they say in the footnote, literally, I mean, I'm just going off memory
here, but I think that they literally say that everything after it says there are three
that bear witness, and then it says everything after that is not in all these other different
texts, and it's just like, okay, well, then why don't you just say you don't believe
that saying that the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost.
Which of course, that's garbage because it's in the majority of Latin manuscripts. There's
versional evidence for it. There's quotes of antiquity that back up 1 John 5-7 as well.
We can go on and on on that. But one thing I wanted to mention specifically with regard
to the debate between Dan Haffley and Mark Ward, Pastor Thompson, is that I would echo
your sentiment that Haffley, and God bless him, please don't take this as me attacking
the guy. I'm sure he's a great guy.
Why are you attacking him?
I will just say this respectfully to him is that I understand being respectful in a debate.
I get that. But it was almost too nice in my mind where I just don't... To me, Mark
Ward is such a devil. He is so... It's not even just that he's effeminate and talks like
a faggot and all that stuff, but he is such a liar and one of the leading voices, no,
against the King James Bible that... Look, I'm not saying that if you debate the guy,
you should get up there and just attack him viciously or something like that. But at the
same time though, it's okay to show a little bit of aggressiveness towards someone who's
really made it his mission to attack the Word of God. What do you say to that?
No, I mean, I think that he was way too soft on it. I don't know much about him, Dr. Heathley
or whatever, but I mean, I thought that him calling him to the carpet about that was good.
And he just said, but he was nice about it. Even then he was like, well, I'm just going
to kind of give you a chance to, you know, to say something, you know, to, I guess to
take that back basically. And then he doesn't just take, he doesn't take it back. He doubles
down on it and basically says to him that, you know, to do good or not to him it is sin.
So he's basically saying if you hand a kid a King James Bible, you are sinning because
you know that that kid can't understand that you're handing him something he can't understand.
So therefore it's sin because you've heard what I've had to say. I mean, the guy is just
so full of himself. He's like, how would you like to know the word of God? Like, I know
the word of God. I'm just like, wow, that is just so full.
Very arrogant. He's smug. He's prideful. He's made it his mission to discredit the
King James Bible. But you know what? Maybe the reason Mark Ward can't understand it to
save his life is because he's a false prophet and the Holy Spirit is not guiding him into
all truth.
Well, I mean, to attack the word of God and then to try to get people on it, on something
else that's not the word of God, then I mean, what else? Like, I don't know what else he
would say. What else he would call that?
Yeah, I mean, I know plenty of people that are not King James only who would never say
it's a sin to give your child a King James Bible. Like, even people who disagree with
our doctrine on the Bible, I don't think would ever make a statement like that. It's
so wicked and it is evil and I stand 100% against Mark Ward. And I think people, especially
in the old...
You're against Mark Ward?
They need to be, they need to stop being so nice.
He claims to love his King James and read it every day but like he's not reading it
for the same reason that we're reading. He says he loves it but I just, I have a hard
time believing that he loves it when he says that it's unintelligible. If it's so unintelligible
then why is he reading it?
No, he hates it. He hides his hatred with deception.
You know, I really like your conversation but I do want to ask a few questions about
the election for a second.
Sure.
Isn't it suspicious that, and I'm looking at the Associated Press data, I've also looked
at the 2070 website's data, but for Nevada, they still show 0% votes counted.
How is it, how is it 11 p.m. and again, they might be an hour behind, so forgive me, but
I'm like, how do you still have zero votes counted?
Isn't that suspicious?
Isn't that weird?
Like, this is the election day, can't you get your, you know, stuff together?
Like, I'm just trying to say, like, is that not a little bit suspicious?
I agree.
It is suspicious, and it just goes to show you that this country is embarrassing.
The democratic process we have in the United States, we're supposed to be, you know, the
superpower of the world, and yet we can't tabulate votes the same night as the election.
Give me a freaking break.
I mean, is it not also suspicious that the states that are the controversial states,
the ones that are gonna, you know, make this decision, they're just trickling in, taking
forever, they're the slowest ones, like, why is that?
I mean, Pennsylvania should be called by now, to your point.
I'm just wanting to say, like, it feels like what happened four years ago.
It feels, I'm just saying, I'm getting an eerie feeling of, like, it's exactly like
what happened.
I'm more optimistic.
Where it's already 11 o'clock, and we're still super far away from a lot of these things
being called, and it feels like what's going to happen is we're going to go to bed and
wake up and it's going to be all blue again.
I think there's a chance that could happen.
I'm not discrediting that at all.
I think there's a chance that could happen.
I mean, why is Nevada reporting nothing?
But I will say that Pennsylvania is looking really good for Trump at 84% reporting.
He has 218,000 vote lead right now, according to Election Wizard, which I've been paying
attention to all night.
And so, in my mind, it feels the same in one way, but in another way, it almost feels
like maybe they didn't account for the Trump slide that we're seeing transpire right now.
They didn't account for cheating hard enough.
They didn't print out enough votes.
Yeah, but then why is it trickling in?
It could be there's fraud in that state.
It's trickling in.
Here's my point.
So that they can just last a minute and they know exactly how much they need, right?
It's too little too late, though.
Pennsylvania's got fraud.
There's no doubt about that.
I think it's too little too late.
This is such a landslide they can't record.
It's not even a landslide though, Ben.
I mean, Pennsylvania is 86% counted.
So that means there's 14% left and the elections only 170,000.
And I mean, like they said, they said in 2020 that they brought in two to 300,000 ballots
in the middle of the night last time.
I mean, that's well enough to get in again.
There was several elections in 2020 that were decided by a very, very small margin.
I want to say that Arizona was 12,000 votes.
I think it was something like super minuscule and currently Arizona right now it's 920 Trump
to 909 Harris.
So we're talking about only an 11,000 margin and they're only at 50% right now.
So you know, that's crazy.
No, it's impossible.
It's impossible they're setting the same thing up as 2020.
It seems like we're just headed down the exact same road where they just want, they're just,
they're allowing every single Trump vote to get counted so then they can finally know,
okay, we need 3.2 million, we need 1.7 million or whatever.
There's no way that she's more pop, that she's got more votes than him.
There's no way she's a freaking moron, dude.
We have a Cenk Uygur meltdown.
Look at how popular he is.
I'm kind of curious how many votes that they think have come in like from a total perspective
because so right now it says that Trump has 62 million and Kamala has 58 million.
So Trump got what 70, was it 71 last year?
Yes.
71.
So he's about 9 million away from getting what he got last time.
But Biden got 80, over 80 million.
80 million, 81 million, yeah.
Maybe rounding up, 81 million?
How many Biden votes 2020 it says, let's see, I would think it would have been like a top
result here.
I remember, oh yeah, it says 81, okay, it's just rounded up, I guess.
81 million, I think Trump had 70 something.
I remember looking up like, list of most votes for president.
- Well, Cenk Uygur on TYT is freaking out and saying come on--
- Oh no, Trump got 74 million, I was wrong.
Trump had gotten 74 million in 2020.
Biden got 81 million,
which shattered Barack Obama's 2008 and 2012 numbers.
Barack got supposedly 69 million in 2008,
65 million in 2012.
Hillary Clinton got 65 million in 2016.
Trump got 62 million in one.
So Trump's already gotten as many as he did in 2016,
according to that statistic.
So he already got 62.6.
So Trump's almost already gotten how many he did in 2016.
Pennsylvania, still 86% reporting, 93% in Georgia.
Super close.
- 83% in Georgia?
What's the, how close is that?
- Yeah, so if we look at Georgia,
it's like a hundred and seven thousand.
- It looks like there are some preparations.
- This site's like not working very well.
- There's preparations being made for Trump
to deliver remarks, I see on the screen there.
When he comes out, I think it's important
for us to switch to that feed to see what he says,
because I think what he's going to do
is he's gonna declare victory tonight,
regardless of what the news media says.
He's gonna declare victory tonight
in order to see if he can stop the steal,
because I do think they're trying to steal
Georgia and Pennsylvania as we speak.
So he needs to declare victory tonight.
I think that would be important.
- Yeah, but I mean, I don't know, it's a mess.
I mean, how is Nevada just not even reporting?
I mean, that's weird.
- I agree with you, yeah, it is.
Well, the fraud, the steal is on.
- Can we look at the, I know the blue states are like,
you know, just gonna be blue on the west coast.
I just wanna see what Washington and Oregon
and California are doing.
- Well, I would show you, but for some reason,
they just won't, they won't show you right now.
- Oh.
- Like, it's like, it's like they've taken--
- And Oregon had early voting and so did Washington, like--
- Yeah, you used to be able to just click on this
and see all the data, but now it just won't work.
I don't know if there's another site.
- They brought in all the fake mail sacks.
- Okay, here's this one.
- Look at how red Oregon is,
just except for Eugene in Portland.
(laughs)
- I mean, look, Clackamas is only 54% dim.
Hood is 66%.
- 50,000 additional ballots.
Dominic Michael Trippi says 50,000 additional ballots
are expected to arrive
at Pennsylvania polling sites tonight.
So it's the same thing all over again, it looks like.
Is that enough to flip the state, though?
- That's not, dude, look at Oregon.
That's not that much of a difference, really.
I mean, it is, but generally, that's a lot different.
Oh, so that's Oregon.
What about Washington?
Will you pull up Washington?
I know it's not that big of a deal to you guys,
but I just want to see.
What is that top number?
It's hard for me to see it.
So it's 58% for Kamala, 1.5 million, 39%.
This has 64% reporting.
Seattle is 75%.
Whitman is 50%.
Spokane is 50% Trump, 46 Harris.
Wow, that's the second biggest city in Washington.
Lincoln is 73%, Trump, that's a small, small area.
What's Vancouver?
Is that Clark County, I'm assuming?
53% Harris, 44% Trump, so Harris had 104,000, Trump had 88,000.
Wow, that seems funny too.
Lester's just been a dramatic shift in Clark County, but that's sad.
There's still 2,000 people that voted for RFK, seems weird.
Yeah, why'd they even keep him on the ballot if he's not running anymore?
That's just crazy.
So how does Kamala Harris, as it stands right now, Pastor Shelley, how does Kamala Harris
win?
What's her path to victory right now?
What does she need to do?
Well, I think that Georgia, if I were to just guess, I would guess Georgia will probably
still hang on for Trump, but then it'll probably just be Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania,
Arizona, Nevada.
So she would have to win all of those?
What does she have to do to win?
Yeah.
Okay.
And then Trump will stay, Trump will probably get, he'll probably lose Arizona even.
So he'll probably get, it looks like that would be 251.
So it'd be a little bit better than last time, because I think it was like 230.
So probably like 251, and then they're just going to, like...
So they need to flip Pennsylvania?
They're going to flip Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan will go to them, they'll probably
flip Arizona, and Nevada will go blue.
Because I mean, I'm sorry.
There's no way for me to believe Nevada's election when it's 11.30 and they have zero
things reported.
Well, they are two hours behind, to be fair.
It doesn't...
There's zero reporting?
Yeah, that doesn't make sense, obviously, 9.30 local time, but there's some dancing
going on at the Trump deal, so...
Oh, okay.
I'm just pointing it out, that's all, I'm not trying to contradict you.
I mean, here's the thing, honestly, I just want whoever was elected to win.
If our nation as a whole just says, "We want Kamala Harris," then so be it, let's just
take the curse upon us and deal with that.
But if Trump gets elected, then I think that he should be elected.
I just think things should be done correctly.
And I think that when there's the cheating and the stealing, that's bad.
Obviously, all things work together for good to them that love God, though.
So at the end of the day, the powers that be are ordained of God, right?
So if he wants us to be a communist nation, I mean, then there's not really any stopping
it.
I mean, how close are we to the end times anyways?
I don't know.
Could this be it?
I think that if they steal this election and they have a communist regime in full power,
I think things are going to escalate even faster as far as just the destruction of our
country.
Here's a question for you, and I agree with what you're saying, but when it comes to if
Trump is elected president, there's a lot of passages about praying for the king, not
reviling the gods, etc.
What is your attitude toward him as president?
Will you be praying for him, or what do you kind of think that could happen with Trump
as the president?
What's your mentality about him being the president?
I don't think he's a reprobate, I'm just curious what you think.
I think with Trump, to me, it's unpredictable.
I don't know what to think.
I think with Kamala, I just know it's bad.
So I guess in some ways, to me, with Trump, there's some hopium, maybe.
There's some like, hey, maybe some things get a little bit better, or maybe he's a target.
At least he's a target for a lot of evil people to attack and stuff like that, and maybe they'll
calm down attacking the church as much.
I feel like with Kamala, it's just like, I mean, think about this, Trump will literally
be gone.
He's not going to campaign again.
There's not another Trump candidate down the line.
So from some perspectives, the only real enemy of the state at that point in my mind is Christians.
And I think that they're going to do a lot more January 6th style stuff, a lot more just
dismantling and disarming and just full on destruction.
I mean the Bible says one sinner destroys much good.
I don't think it takes much to destroy, it takes a lot to build.
And so it takes a lot of effort, a lot of energy.
And unfortunately our nation is just not very righteous.
So if God spares us this curse of Kamala and this communist regime, then he's very long
suffering.
We would have to just say God is very merciful and maybe to a fault for us.
Like, I don't know that we deserve anything better, honestly.
What do you think, Pastor Thompson?
I don't know.
I mean, but then Trump could just be ushering in more, more Jews or to power.
I mean, we're already pretty much taken over our Senate and our House of Representatives
is pretty much bought and paid for by Israel.
I mean, you can see that by the HB 6090 stuff where they're just like all the senators,
all the House Republican, basically, not all the House was doing it.
I mean, there were some people that voted against it.
I looked a little more closely at it after I preached a sermon about it, but I was actually
pretty pleasantly surprised that some of the people, even Marjorie Taylor Greene actually
stood against it, which I was really surprised about.
So she might be the Deborah in there, but she's definitely got her own issues.
But at least she went against that.
I mean, there were some people that went against it.
I mean, that's a step in the right direction, at least there's some people that are standing
against stuff like that.
I mean, yeah.
It is.
That's a big goal, man.
It really is a big goal.
When you're just like, when it's both bipartisan, the Democrats and the Republicans are majority
passing something that you're going to say, if you say that Jesus, you know, that the
Jews killed Jesus, then that's something that's hate speech, or you're not allowed to say
that or whatever.
So it's like, where are we going here?
You know, what's what's what's happening next?
I mean, are we going to turn into these European nations where if you question the Holocaust,
I mean, it's pretty much that instead, but I mean, where are we going to go next?
Or you do have a law against it?
And it sounds like that kind of rhetoric is already being said.
So I don't know.
I mean, Chip, Chip Roy won his house seat.
I like Chip Roy for Texas.
Did you bagger?
No, I think that Chip Roy, again, I go with what?
What does the Kentucky guy, Thomas Massey, said?
Like everybody has their APAC handler.
But I don't think that a lot of our representatives are necessarily of a specific tiny hat club.
I think that they just have a tiny hat handler.
I will say that when it comes to a potential Trump presidency, which I think is looking
likely.
Automatically does it.
That for me, my optimism for another Trump term went up significantly when they tried
to kill him twice.
For me, that was the mark of someone who the establishment does not want to be president.
I would think, and I'm holding on to some hope, that during the campaign he was acting
like Jihoo and saying, "Ahab served Baal a little, but Jihoo shall serve him much."
Hopefully when he does actually get in, if he does get in, he'll do some things that
are hardcore.
He sucks on the Jews, he's terrible on homos for sure, and an abortion also very bad.
But you know, I do like that he has RFK Jr. on his side and potentially may do something
with the vaccines.
I like that he at least gives lip service to being anti-war in America first.
So I'm holding out some hope that with no need to worry about trying to get re-elected,
maybe we'll get an actual president who does some really good stuff here.
I guess we'll see what happens and we'll find out quickly depending on who he staffs his
cabinet with.
According to NBC, Nevada still 0 percent.
Extremely fishy.
Extremely suspicious.
Extremely weird.
I just, you know, I just don't trust our elections.
I never have and I still don't.
And I know the big motto is "too big to rig" but this does not seem too big to rig.
I think that all the margins are super razor thin and it looks like they have...
Do you think they're doing a steal?
I think it looks like they have everything they need.
They're just waiting for the final data to come in and for us to all go to bed and we're
going to wake up and it's going to be the super razor thin margins again.
I think the interesting thing will be is how hard Trump will fight that.
And I'm kind of curious what the Harris administration may or may not do as a result of that being
contested if they're just going to ignore it, go after him hard, like arrest him.
Like, you know, there's a lot of theories out there of what they may or may not do.
And I know like some of these states like Pennsylvania, they were saying huge Republican
areas, their older voting machines were turned off and people couldn't vote.
I know they were saying with the ballots in Pennsylvania, stuff like that, there was weird
marks on them.
Obviously, you know, it's Josh Shapiro is the governor of Pennsylvania.
That seems really suspicious when it comes to some of these other swing states, even
like Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan, it seemed like there was a lot of weird stuff
going on with some of them.
So you know, to me, it was just they were just trying to limit the damage so that when
they bring in the mail in ballots later, it's just kind of like, oh, you know, not they
don't need as many as they did last time.
I don't know.
Man, you're depressing me.
I am a little bit black.
I guess life sucks and then you die.
Oh, man.
I'm not saying that that's for sure and I'm not saying that I want that.
I'm just trying to be honest that it feels like that's what's happening.
I mean, how else am I supposed to interpret the data that Nevada literally has zero?
She can have Nevada.
Well, but it could be meaningful.
And I'm saying it seems suspicious.
Why are they just so slow and there's no new data coming in?
Let her have it.
If he takes Pennsylvania, any other state, it's over.
Let her have Nevada.
Nuts to Nevada.
Yeah.
I don't really care.
I just want things to seem like they're legit and they don't seem legit at all.
So you know, to me, it's another fail that our countries are just, people didn't care
about the election fraud the last time enough.
And I think that, again, it's probably going to be 2.0.
It's just kind of annoying.
I mean, Florida, Florida at least got their act together.
I would say this, Florida did seem not legit in their election.
And then it seemed like they fixed that.
And now they're like the best Florida has a very good process.
They get the results out practically immediately.
You never hear about weird shenanigans.
The voting machines are broken.
It's not working.
The votes are flipping, et cetera.
I mean, in all fairness, Alaska and Hawaii are zero, but at least they have an excuse
since they're in a completely different time zone.
So that's not the same as Nevada.
We've had a lot of great people in our show, and I'm sure people will be dropping eventually.
But thanks so much for joining us in the show and coming out.
Some people are now saying 271, 267, but who's the winner?
You said 271, 267, who's the winner in that?
User 712101.
What's the New York Times probability?
That's a good way to put it.
271, 267, who's the winner?
Even the liberal New York Times gives Trump a 93%.
Yeah, but I think that they want everybody to just go to bed and just be like, all right,
we won.
It seems good.
Whatever.
It's going to be crazy here, though.
Likely Trump, 93% chance.
The last time they said this was in 2016, and he won.
Yeah, but they just need to come in.
I'm just telling you, they're going to come in later.
Oh, Harris will win.
Yeah.
So user thinks 271, 267, Harris will win.
I think it was 268 to 270 is what I thought.
Maybe I'm not sure what that looks like.
Of course it's on the map.
It's very possible overnight they'll get the mail-in ballots that they want and shift Pennsylvania,
Michigan, and Wisconsin.
So if Trump gets Arizona, that would be 259.
And then if he got Nevada, that would be 265.
And then if he got Alaska, that'd be 268.
I don't see how that's possible to have 267 from our commenter.
271, 267.
I don't see that path as being possible.
I do think it could be 270, 268.
Yeah.
Someone says they're going to find lots of ballots overnight, no doubt.
Harris wins Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Wisconsin.
She gets right there.
Oh, it says my math might be off.
Yeah.
I think you're just off by one.
But if you give Harris Arizona and Nevada, are you giving them Minnesota, I'm assuming
two and Michigan, then yeah, it's like this person on X says, Hey you, yes, you remember
you went to bed in 2020 with a solid Trump win on paper too.
It's not over.
Yeah.
Sobering reminder.
No, I mean, they were like, they were like, not even just gray.
They were just like red.
They were like, and I think that Trump was winning, correct me if I'm wrong.
I think Trump was winning Pennsylvania and some of these states by like 600,000 votes
or like 700,000 votes.
And we went to bed and then all of a sudden, like everything changed.
She was winning by 200.
It was like almost they had like a million ballots.
That's why you saw those charts were just like this straight up.
And I'm, I'm saying like right now, Trump's not even winning by that.
Think about this.
Trump was winning by like six, 700,000 ballots in these battleground states and we went to
bed and he lost.
He's right now winning by like a hundred thousand or less.
It'll be less, they can still, it won't be as over the top this time.
Yeah, they don't have to.
They don't have to cheat as hard.
Yes, we'll see what happens.
It's not over till it's over, huh?
Pennsylvania, let's see, okay.
Trump's at 3.1 million votes, but look at this.
This Democrat area, oh, only 80 percent.
They say 88 is in the thing, but only 80 for this specific county and only 77 percent
for this county and only 76, I mean, look at this.
These counties down here that are all blue and just going like 80, 70, 50 and 60 percent
for Harris, they're saying they're only 77 percent in, like, and he's barely winning.
I think that it's going to be exactly like what we saw.
Let's see.
And don't get, all right, man.
Yeah.
You might be wrong.
You know.
Well, it doesn't matter either way.
I'm not going to, like I said, I mean, I think I'm the only person that really said that
I'm going to do stuff differently based on who the president is.
But that's just because, you know, I'm pretty blackpilled on Kamala being president.
So it's going to be hard for me to want to spend money gratuitously and just live frivolously
with something, you know, with her in office.
I think I'm going to be pretty conservative.
Whereas with Trump, I think that there could be a chance to really push the limits and
kind of go hard and try to accomplish a lot more maybe.
And maybe that's the wrong mentality.
I mean, you can't take it with you either way, but I'm just saying in general, that's
kind of my mindset that it may be a little bit harder of a battle, you know, with that
type of...
Well, yeah.
Because they're just like...
The Democrats are like succubuses.
They just suck you to death with all their taxes.
Demon rats.
And it's just like...
It's not just like some standard acts that they take out of you.
It's everything.
It's your gas, it's your groceries, it's just everything.
It's all this green carbon tax, all this other crap that they have.
And they just suck you dry with everything.
And they're just like taking just huge amounts of our paychecks and then just making everybody's
lives miserable while they say that they're saving the world.
Someone's bringing up a good point.
She can call for a recount too.
That happened with Al Gore and Bush famously.
Because I think if you're within a certain margin, you can call for a recount.
That's a good point.
I think, in Arizona specifically too, it's so close.
Exactly what will happen.
I just don't know that they're going to need it.
I guess I would say that I'd be surprised if we wake up in the morning and it's the
same results.
There's a chick here at the podium.
I don't know what she's up to.
You can put it on if she's talking.
She's just standing there.
I don't know.
Alex has champagne.
So he's optimistic.
Yeah, but I mean, I just don't like to celebrate an early victory when it's not official.
He's got to just come out and say I won.
That's it.
Yeah, but see his thing.
Alex said over an hour ago that he would announce something within an hour.
Didn't happen.
Yeah, he likes his clickbait headlines.
I know that there's a jar of how many times Alex Jones has been right, but I wonder if
there's like a dumpster of times that he's been wrong.
He over exaggerates a lot.
He was right about the frogs turning gay though.
Okay.
He was right about that.
Eventually.
That is true.
What's the chemical name?
Tryptophan or something?
Makes the frogs gay.
No, I think the tryptophan is in Turkey, actually.
I forgot what it was called.
Nitrazine or something like that.
Pastor Shelley doesn't believe in any conspiracies, though, except for 9/11.
Is that somewhat accurate?
No, he believes in Sandy Hook.
One election.
He believes in Sandy Hook, not that it was an inside job.
Somebody says that Trump won Texas.
Oh, that's true.
I can't.
Never mind.
I forget I said that.
Go ahead, Pastor Shelley.
What was that?
Trump won Texas.
Trump won Texas?
Wow.
Shocking.
Oh, Dominique Trippi.
Someone quoted him and said, "Not only is Pennsylvania going to get another 50,000,
they're going to get another 37 after that."
Well, the margin is 200, so they're going to have to come up with a little more.
It's always funny when they bring in the ballots and it's 100% for Kamala.
And no other candidates, you know, it's just ...
Is that Trump?
Who's on the podium?
Is that Trump?
No.
They're cheating.
They're cheating big time.
Nobody's ever cheated like they have.
What about this conspiracy?
It's like Trump is standing here declaring victory and then he gets shot and killed.
Wow.
They blow his head off?
Yeah.
What's that?
Wouldn't that be the weirdest?
I mean, I put nothing past him.
I think that everything's on the table every day.
It's just crazy.
They don't want him to be president in 19.
What about Crowder?
Because Crowder claimed that he paid like a ton, a ton of money to have the exact same
data as all of the major news networks and that he would be reporting.
He did call Pennsylvania for Trump.
Crowder.
Where?
On Twitter or like where?
I saw that on X.
You're going to have to search for it.
You could just believe me, too.
You earlier said that Virginia, I turned out to be right about that because I saw it on
Election Wizard.
Well, whatever he says, right?
What made you trust Election Wizard so much?
It's the Election Wizard.
I mean, come on.
That's self-explanatory.
Crowder said Pennsylvania alert.
The fate of our nation is in a mysterious box truck convoy.
New workers are coming into count votes.
We are following this closely.
So it doesn't sound like he's calling Pennsylvania.
I'm looking at all of his tweets.
I might have gotten that one wrong though.
Wow.
We all get things wrong from time to time.
When you triple down on the fact that you were right.
Can't I repent?
Well, obviously if you're proven wrong, then I guess, but you were, you were like forcing
me into this.
Just trust, trust, trust the plan.
It's like a Q-non conspiracy over here.
Trust the plan.
I just don't think we're going to find anything else out, folks.
I don't know.
Is Trump going to say something before midnight?
I don't think it's likely.
Yeah.
They're all going to be standing there another hour, hour and a half.
Well, should we wrap it up then?
Well, we got about, we got about 12 minutes.
We can stay until midnight, but I don't think anything else is going to change.
Is there anything else you wanted to plug, Pastor Thompson?
No, I'm just, I just appreciate you guys having me on.
Sorry, I've kind of wiped out today and I'm trying to order some groceries right now.
I came in and I just kind of came right up here and tried to hook everything up and get
going.
So according to Pastor Anderson, you need to get some green bananas.
Yeah.
I'm kind of off bananas right now, man.
I just, I got, I got, uh, I don't know if you, when you have, when you guys had COVID,
did you guys ever get like aversions to food that you just can't eat anymore?
Banana is one of those things, Indian food is your aversion for life, but you just haven't
had the right kind of Indian food as a child.
Yeah, I agree.
Preach it.
Preach.
I threw a bone out there the other day, I said, um, I'm sure if I had enough Indian
food, I'd probably end up liking it and that's why I'm just staying away from it.
So you know, I just don't even, I just don't even want my heart to be turned aside going
after other false gods.
But that's a weird.
Yeah, but if you do something enough, you probably end up liking it is it's just kind
of a human thing.
No, if you had it in England, you'd like it.
It's kind of like, you know, you probably wouldn't like Chinese food in China.
No, I like Americanized Chinese food and I may like, that's what I said.
I'm sure that there's probably something out there that's not terrible or whatever.
But I just, you know, I just don't even want to go down that path.
You know, I don't want to be foward or go crooked and get off the straight and narrow
path.
I'm just trying to stay pure and not be partaker of other men's stands.
Well, I was like that a lot with Indian food.
I just didn't know, and I still really don't know a lot of what I'm ordering when I do.
So whenever I do go to Indian food, I go with people that know what they're doing and I
let them order stuff and then I ask them what they ordered, just so I know.
And then some stuff I don't like, I mean, some stuff is, yeah, but Thai food's the same
way for me, man, and Thai food's spicy, bro.
Alright, so for our chat, before we sign off, give me either a hashtag Trump if you think
he's going to win or hashtag steal.
So let's get the audiences, the faithful few, do you think that Trump's going to eke it
out and hang on or do you think they're going to steal it in the night?
Before we wrap up, let's get some ideas from our audience and it seems like our audience
is pretty hopeful here of a Trump hanging on.
Somebody put steal and Trump, so maybe they think that it's being stolen for Trump.
That's a twist to the narrative.
Yeah, that would be.
They stole it from Kamala for Trump.
I don't know that I agree with that narrative, but you know.
We got a lot of T's right here, Trump, Trump, Trump, 21 Tripp says Trump, trade selector
is putting steal, always bad to steal user 7 1 12 steal brother Paul says Jeb Bush got
it.
Okay, soldier for Christ Trump, Maury Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Steal Trump
Trump Lynn Trump your ear Trump 3 a.m.
Van.
Yeah, probably.
That's kind of where I I lean red, red, Lizab Trump, someone says Trump can't steal.
He's white.
Oh, man.
That's that's a little spicy.
All I did was read it.
Oh, man.
We're supposed to pick who we're supposed to pick who we think is actually going to
win.
Yeah.
What is your opinion?
You think it's going to be Trump or Steele, Steele, Kamala?
Yeah.
Wow.
I'm sorry, but I have no faith in our system.
Mrs. Shelley put Trump.
But my my prediction.
What a reaction.
Yeah, so I am sometimes too superstitious, as the new King James would say.
I just you know, the Nevada having zero, it just it just doesn't sit right with me.
And I'm just I was here four years ago and Trump was winning by 600,000 votes in Pennsylvania.
He was winning by 700,000 votes in Michigan.
He is currently winning by like only 100,000.
And so and if you look at the counties, the these like extreme Democrat counties that
cheated super hard are only reporting at like 70, 77 percent reporting.
So I think that they're just literally just letting it slowly roll in, get all the other
ones 99 percent, and then they're just going to win by 20, 30,000 votes or something like
that again.
Maybe they smash it.
Maybe they just go like four or 500,000 just to make it seem like.
Kamala will end up with 97 million votes.
If this makes everybody hopeful, I thought Hillary was going to win in 2016.
I thought Donald Trump was going to win in 2020 this year I'm picking Kamala.
So if that helps you and gives you hope that I'm wrong every single time, then I'm picking
Kamala this year.
So hopefully Trump will.
I'm going to pick the loser every time.
I think it's insane to think that these elections are that close, legitimately.
There's a steal no matter what.
I think there's fraud no matter what.
The real results, if Trump does pull this out, are going to be way different.
I think Trump probably in reality did a massive, massive landslide tonight.
Massive landslide.
If you take the fraud out of it.
What would be depressing is the thing that there's really 58 million people in our country
that voted for Kamala Harris.
I mean, it's possible, but I don't know.
But the people are retarded.
I agree.
You gotta play that clip.
Somebody, I think somebody was asking for you to play that clip earlier.
Which clip?
But the people are retarded.
I don't even know that clip.
What is that clip?
Ben, chew it up.
You don't know?
I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure what you're referring to.
It's that Indian guy.
He's like a Bhagwan Rajneesh or something.
I don't know what he is.
He goes, "You've never seen that clip."
I'm sorry.
Oh.
Yeah, I apologize, I'm not sure what it is.
Maybe our production truck can search for it or something.
Our production truck.
Let me find it, I'll tell you what it is, if it's even still allowed on YouTube.
How many people are watching some of these other streams?
Probably like thousands and thousands.
It's Osho, it's Osho, people are retarded, asthma, Osho.
So it says Crowder Show has 395,000 watching it live.
How many of you are watching Alex live?
Because democracy basically means, government by the people, of the people, for the people.
But the people are retarded.
Is that like your uncle or something like that?
I knew he looked familiar, has to be some kind of distant relative.
Oh man.
He played that perfectly though, he has that like pause in between each thing.
But the people are retarded.
You guys haven't seen that, it's great.
I hadn't seen that before, thank you for introducing that into my life, Pastor Thompson.
You live long and prosper with that.
Oh and Nevada's finally reporting, they said it's at 5%.
Oh wow, way to join the party.
Is there any news on Pennsylvania?
I think it's like 90ish percent reporting, but I don't know.
So you guys are on the AP one?
Is that what you're doing?
I've been going to a lot of different ones.
Yeah.
I hate the AP.
NBC.
93% chance of victory according to the New York Times right now.
93% chance.
Really?
Yep.
The New York Times isn't that the liberal one?
It is.
New York Times is saying Trump has a 93% chance of victory.
So we had a lot of people vote of what they thought.
Let's go back.
Sure.
Foundation.
Hashtag Kamala.
Carrie Shelley.
05.
Hashtag Trump.
Smart woman.
She sounds amazing.
Mama who loves Jesus 97.
Hashtag Steele.
She's listening to our show.
That is awesome.
If that's the real Carrie Shelley, I have to just say this is the most legit live stream
we've ever had.
Yes.
She's actually tuned in.
Because for her to want to watch our show, it must be amazing.
But does she like the live stream though?
That's what I want.
Best show ever.
I'm not sure.
There is three thumbs down.
She needs to send a screenshot of her liking the podcast with the like button.
I need the receipts or it didn't happen.
Wasn't there a comment on Facebook that was about like our churches having people, it
was like Steadfast doesn't have a building or something like this.
Someone said that we didn't have a building and they were like pictures or it doesn't
exist or something like that.
Did you see that?
No.
It was like somebody was saying like nobody has a building in the new IFB and they were
like well what about Pastor Jimenez?
And then he's like okay I looked it up, yeah it seems like they do have a building.
And then he's like what about Steadfast and he's like pictures or it doesn't exist or
something like that.
I'm like okay.
Well I did ask my wife, I said did you watch our stream and she did just respond.
Did she?
Yeah she said no.
Oh man.
Ouch.
One out of two ain't bad.
That hurts.
Fifty percent?
Okay.
Maybe next time.
So here in Georgia, someone just said, is that true?
I need to check because sometimes my wife sends me memes and they're like the best
memes ever.
My wife sent me the screenshot of our show.
There it is.
With the light?
This is the greatest day ever.
Even if Kamala wins, this is just a win.
I need the receipt of that so Pastor Shelley, is there a light on there?
Otherwise it never happened.
It's light.
Oh it is light.
Here's the thing, this is what's important.
It's light and in the screenshot there's three down votes.
So that means that she didn't switch.
She was always on the like side and so that's an important distinction.
Sometimes we have to check the photo evidence.
What was the show?
She was sending me memes that were like epic and I wish I had put them in the show.
Oh, no, no, it was the Kent Hovind debate.
The Kent Hovind and, well, discussion, sorry, the Kent Hovind and Pastor Anderson discussion.
She was sending me the most killer awesome memes all the way through and I wish I had
put some of them on the screen.
Was she making them or was she just finding them?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she was making them.
She's really spicy.
She's the better half for sure.
She writes some good sermons that I preach for, you know, and so.
Now, I love my wife, she's a great woman.
She's cool.
She's very down to earth.
I like her a lot.
Yeah.
So we're getting close to wrapping it up.
Sorry, I don't think that Trump's coming out anytime soon.
Maybe I'm wrong on that.
The audience is feeling like it's a Trump victory.
I think the vast majority.
Some people still think it's going to steal.
I think that there's a real legitimate chance that it's going to steal.
It is disappointing that we live in the most advanced society in technology ever, and we
have somehow gotten worse at just voting.
Somehow we can't even just tell you what happened.
I don't know.
I don't know what happened.
I don't know what's going to happen.
One thing I would say is they were signaling that a lot of the Senate and the Republicans
were in danger and it seems like a lot of them won and typically when you have downed
ballot people winning and doing really good, that means that the upper ticket was crushing
as well.
And I think that was another thing that was interesting in 2020, it's like all of these
down ticket people were just crushed and won all their seats in elections.
But then supposedly Trump loses, right?
And it's like all these mail-in ballots that came in last minute that were only for the
Democratic person, only for Biden.
And it's just like, I'll say this, Trump for sure won the election.
Trump won the election.
It's not even a question.
It's just whether or not they're going to go hard and try to steal a lot of these swing
states.
I think that it's just, it's super obvious what happened.
It's super obvious that our country hates communism.
And you know, I don't think that, I don't think there's really any legitimate person
out there that's going to be able to say otherwise, but that does not mean that they aren't going
to try and contest this.
I don't know what's going to happen.
It's unpredictable, but this is what I do know.
I am going to go to church tomorrow and I'm going to sing songs to our Savior.
And I'm going to preach Ecclesiastes chapter 12.
And let's hear the whole conclusion of the matter, fear God and keep His commandments.
Amen.
And I'm going to go to church Sunday and I'm going to work on my job and I'm going to do
all the things that I need to do and you know, no matter what, all things work together for
good to them that love God.
That doesn't mean it's necessarily good for our nation.
You know, I don't want Kamala the curse to be in an office, in any office anymore.
And I hope that that doesn't happen.
But I won't be surprised if anything anymore.
Nothing surprises me anymore, Ben.
Does anything surprise you anymore?
No, I mean, I think we've seen enough.
I mean, you had Trump assassination attempt on multiple occasions.
We had 2020.
They flipped it overnight with all the magical mail-ins.
So nothing surprises me.
But at the end of the day, no matter what happens, if God before us, who could be against
us, we're fighting the spiritual battle.
And you know, I'm going to sleep like a baby tonight, you know, regardless of what ends
up happening here.
It does seem likely that we're going to get Trump in my opinion.
But you know, if I'm wrong on that doesn't really change anything for me.
Either way, I am hoping for a Trump presidency so I could watch some leftists lose their
mind.
That is always very entertaining for me so much 2020 again, or 2016.
I'm sorry.
Have you guys?
Does anybody ever know what happened to that screaming lady that fell down and screamed?
No, no.
He's been deemed like so many times, but like I wonder whatever happened to her died of
a brain aneurysm.
I think I saw someone sharing her name.
She like I'll be epic to see her do it over again.
Some other fashion.
But like, yeah, I am going to be ecstatic to see liberals cry and scream, but they're
probably going to burn down cities and towns too.
So fortunately, destroy people's private property.
Portland will be burning for the next four years of Trump wins and Seattle and all the
other liberal hellholes that these Democrats have ruined, poisoned the minds of all these
people.
I'll definitely laugh and enjoy CNN crying and MSNBC and all these people.
That part is fun.
I have to admit, but that's it.
CBS says it might take a few days to count the votes.
Of course it will.
All the bags, the fake bags.
In California, they passed a law that says that they cannot ask for identification.
Imagine if every state passes a law like that.
There's no way any Republican will ever win an election ever again.
I mean, how is that even reasonable?
Like, you have to have ID to rent a car.
Yeah.
Well, the only reason that...
In the movie theater, in some instances, like...
Of course, there's one reason why anybody would oppose IDs to vote, and it's because
they want to cheat.
I mean, it's just that simple.
I'm sorry, I'm dragging the show out, but these things just like are coming to my mind.
They're stacking the deck.
That's like part of the reason why they're bringing all these people over and putting
them all these small towns so they can stack the deck.
So they did the California.
California was a red state for a long time.
They did the same thing and just doing it in middle America.
I mean, I didn't think Pennsylvania was going to be close this year, honestly.
I just can't believe it's as close as it is.
Same thing with like NBC shows trucks coming to the polling place saying that they just
arrived with more ballots and MSNBC says another 50,000 ballots have just arrived and
Pennsylvania.
Yeah.
I mean, I've never really thought, I mean, if they steal it and we do nothing, why would
they not steal it again?
Yeah, but there's not much you can do.
What can you do?
And I think that they're going to give Georgia to Trump this time just to kind of like make
it seem a little bit more legit, but...
And Arizona maybe.
Yeah.
Because they don't even, it doesn't even matter.
And then they don't have to deal with any heat in those two areas because those two
areas got a lot of attention, Pennsylvania just take the heat again.
I mean, Pennsylvania literally tried to kill Trump.
Do we not remember this?
Yes.
I mean, the state that literally tried to kill him and is just like barely, you know,
hanging on and then they're bringing in ballots, folks.
It's like, I don't know.
Oh, we just found these 50,000 ballots there in Chenequa's basement over in Philly.
Isn't that what they were doing last time in Georgia?
Yes, they pulled out suitcases.
They had these huge mail bags just filled with ballots that they were counting.
I was going to say this, that you know that Giuliani got sued by those women that brought
those ballots in and were on film bringing those ballots out and counting them?
Didn't he get disbarred or put in prison or all kinds of stuff?
He owes them all of his money basically.
He had to give them a condo and some kind of all of his baseball memorabilia that he
had.
He had like Babe Ruth memorabilia and all kinds of stuff.
He had to give it all to them so they could sell it and make money off it.
They're whining about how their name was made mud over this and it's just all the stuff
that's happened over all this, over questioning the elections and questioning their integrity
or whatever.
It's just such garbage.
Florida also had on the ballot for legalizing marijuana and what I'm reading is that it
actually got 55% of the vote, but they needed 60% for it to pass so it ended up getting
rejected.
Yeah, it didn't happen.
I think it's a good thing because I've seen Oklahoma change a lot with the legalization
of marijuana and I think it was really detrimental to Oklahoma.
I understand there's an argument to say it shouldn't be illegal or anything like that,
but at the same time, it definitely has made a big impact on Oklahoma.
I guess from my perspective, I do think it's ridiculous that people would spend long periods
of time in jail for possession of marijuana.
I don't think that that seems legitimate or seems right.
I don't even agree with jail anyway.
I'm not saying that that's right, but whether or not you should have it legalized or not,
I'm just in general, I think it was really bad for Oklahoma.
I don't know what you think about that, Pastor Thompson.
People doing long-term prison for small amounts and things like that, I think there's a lot
of people that did a lot of prison time and did something that's, I mean, I think alcohol
is much worse and has caused a lot more deaths than marijuana.
But I do think marijuana is, you know, the marijuana that's out nowadays is very powerful
and they do all kinds of, you know, stuff to make it way more potent.
So I mean, I think people driving around on it is unsafe and I think that it should be
tested for and things like that.
But yeah, as far as it shouldn't be in the same classification as like meth
and the narcotics that they have and stuff like that.
Well, it's still stupid.
I think that it should be, I mean, illegal.
I hate when I go places and like, you know, I mean, just driving down
the street in Washington, you'll just be driving behind somebody.
And you'll just, it'll big waft of it will go into your car.
It's just like, so people are just smoking it in their cars and they're
just, you know, people are just smoking it on the street.
They're not supposed, that's, that's, that is against the law.
I mean, they're supposed to be, you're supposed to be doing it in proper
places, I guess, and it's totally legal here or in Washington.
And, you know, people will just do it like in hotel, like if you're
staying in a hotel or something, like, you know, you're just like, they're
not supposed to be doing it inside the hotel either, but yet they just do it
in the hotel people, so you sit and do anything or say anything, but it's just
like, I mean, I don't want to smell that crap, so I don't know.
I'm looking at Pennsylvania.
I don't know, can you pull up that on the screen?
Go to my screen again.
Okay, so I'm looking at Pennsylvania, and they kept saying that Philadelphia
County needs 700,000 votes for Kamala.
Let me see if I can make this a little bit bigger.
Okay, so they're saying Kamala currently has 484,000 and 78%, and then there's
78% counted, so if you do math on that, which I've been doing this consistently
throughout the show, just privately, I didn't really share my results or
anything, but if you take the 484, sorry, 484, and you divide that by 0.78, if
that stays true to percentage-wise, you would total that 620,000 total votes.
I've been monitoring this earlier, it was only going to be like 602, and then
it was like 609, and now it's 620, so it's actually been climbing as well,
specifically in this, and I think that Biden got like 602.
So, but again, what is, what is 620?
Let's go 620 minus 484, that gives us 136,000.
Okay.
Let's go back and I might have to zoom out a little bit, Pennsylvania.
136,000.
Okay.
Well, he's currently, what was that?
Sorry.
Yeah, not what I wanted to do.
23, 27, minus 103, 224.
So they'd have to get 224 more and then that's assuming that that's a consistent rate.
So that would be 88,000 short.
So based on those numbers, if they're bringing in 50,000, then there's still 38,000 short.
And then they said that they were bringing in a little bit more.
Like, I don't know, it's definitely close.
So he's at 247, so he needs 23 more.
That's it.
Yep.
Yeah.
You have Michigan, Michigan 62%.
He's caught up in every one of those states.
It's just a matter of, are they going to pause the counting, bring in the fake
ballots and flip them?
New York Times forecast Trump very likely to win Pennsylvania, Nevada
statewide referendum to require photo ID for voting on track to pass by large
margins, and that's good news.
Trump leads Michigan by 232,000 with an estimated 61% reporting.
Minnesota.
Okay.
Minnesota looks like it's probably going to go Kamala for sure.
Really?
Yeah.
It's, it's, um, she's up quite a bit with 70.
Make that a little bit bigger.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Oh, it's okay.
I'm just getting old and blind.
It's not really big on the screen.
So you a hundred in, it's not quite a hundred thousand, I guess it's, but still
that's a pretty good margin.
3% at 73%.
Um, and I'm sure again, when you click on these and look at them, that it's
probably counted as in the bigger areas.
Yeah.
It's probably the more Democrat heavy areas that are not.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Oh, this says 96%, 95, 28.
Yeah.
So that one's going to get a lot more dim votes.
A lot of these other ones look like the Republican areas look like they're all.
I guess that one's a little bit.
Well, it's not that much.
Say that again.
Oh, I didn't say anything.
I was just, I didn't say anything.
Oh, OK.
Yeah, I think we're just going to wrap up.
I don't know that we're going to get anything.
I appreciate our crew for hanging in there with us.
Thank you, Pastor Thompson, for hanging in there with us.
Yeah, thanks for having me on.
It was fun.
We talked about a lot of other spicy things, too.
So and fun stuff.
So a good time.
Make sure to check out Pastor Thompson,
Sure Foundation Baptist Church in Vancouver, Washington.
He's got a lot of church plants over there, too.
You got Seattle, Yakima, Spokane.
You also have Vancouver, British Columbia up in Canada.
And you have a church plant in Indianapolis.
Yep, they won for Trump.
There you go.
It's hard to keep track of all your church plants.
I'm sorry.
Hopefully, that's OK.
That church plant's doing really good, too.
They're closing in on 1,000 for Salvation's for the year.
And they're running like 50 people.
So it's doing good for this first year.
No, that's great.
I mean, honestly, you never know what to expect.
But to have 50 or so people in kind of your first year,
like that goes to show like there was a big need in that area.
And a lot of people are rallying.
And that's great to hear that they're doing a good work for the Lord and on a path.
So thanks so much for joining us for the stream.
Ben, do you have any final words for us?
I feel like everything that has been said
was pertinent tonight about a lot of different things.
And I don't really have much else to add.
So appreciate everybody tuning in.
I guess we'll find out with 100 percent certainty by tomorrow.
But it does look likely, at least from my vantage point, that Trump is the next
president, but if I'm wrong about that, then I'm wrong about it.
At the end of the day, Jesus Christ is our King, regardless of who the earthly
president is. So I appreciate the stream.
And thank you, Pastor Shelley, for hosting.
God's still on his throne.
Thanks, guys. McDonald's.
We tried to get some McDonald's flair for this evening.
We brought in all kinds of guests.
Even if you're not that Baptist, we want you to get a little closer our way.
Cause look, everybody's got a perspective, but you need to get the Baptist Bible.