- Hey everybody, thanks for joining us
for another episode of The Baptist Bias.
We have a really great show this evening.
We have a special guest, Owen Schreuer,
that's gonna be joining us
and talking about the future of America.
But before we get to our guest,
we're gonna start off with our Benalog.
- The future of America has never looked brighter.
I can't wait until we're just a few months away
from the 2024 election to see if President Biden
will finally announce his candidacy.
Either way, we all know he's locked in
for the win.
I can't see how anyone wouldn't vote
for the most popular president in history.
His campaign slogan, "Build Back Better,"
has never been a truer statement.
Think about all the building we've done
over the last few years.
We've built record inflation.
We've built a record number of unexplained
and totally coincidental, by the way,
sudden adult deaths.
We've eliminated the flu completely.
No more 60 million cases of the flu every year.
That's gone.
That's vanished into thin air.
We've given more taxpayer money
to the most deserving foreign countries
than ever before in history.
We've helped the Biden family collect more bribes
and payoffs than any criminal before in history.
We've built a record number of military weapons
that we've given to the Middle East.
We've built a new set of rules that vilifies free speech.
We've built a record number of factories, trains,
processing plants, and more that need to be rebuilt
after an unprecedented number of random fires
that are totally normal, of course.
We've built a strong, racist, free culture
where everyone agrees white men are morally depraved
psychopaths unable to comprehend
their own inherent degeneracy.
We've built more non-traditional women
who are, of course, totally real women
in positions previously occupied by men ever before.
In fact, we hope to eliminate all traditional women
from every position in the government, schools,
sports, entertainment, fashion, and media
in an effort to repair the misogynistic evils
of our past.
Soon we can look at even more future improvements,
such as increased technologies to spy and track down
every conservative, more prisons
for unpatriotic constitutionalists--
that's what they call themselves-- more coffins
and shallow graves, more apartments,
more medically assisted suicide devices,
more economically friendly food like crickets and beetles.
Sounds appetizing to me.
More skyrocketing inflation,
more communist Chinese spy balloons,
more arbitrary rules that only affect small businesses,
more disinformation regulations,
more blackouts, more shortages,
more peaceful protests, more TikTok videos,
more STDs, more satanic films, and music.
Of course, Satan doesn't exist, everyone.
Just think of all the job opportunities this chaos,
or I should say communism, excuse me,
how about social democracy will create.
Although there is one downer,
some people, and I use that word loosely,
are not enthusiastic at all about the direction
that we're headed as a country.
And in my mind, they're a small, insignificant,
meaningless, brainwashed, water carrying fascist party
of racists who should be violently eradicated peacefully.
They have a putrefying disease of the mind,
which can only be described as the Baptist bias.
- Thanks again for joining us for the Baptist bias.
It's Pastor Shelley and we've got our co-host,
Ben the Baptist, say hello to everybody.
- It's great to be here, folks.
Welcome to another episode of our show
on this Tuesday, February 21st.
It's 8 p.m. Central time.
You're right where you should be
for another episode of the Baptist bias.
- Well, we're gonna go ahead and get introduced
to our guest for this evening.
We have from Infowars, Owen Shroyer, joining us.
Thanks so much for coming on the show, Owen.
All right, one second.
I couldn't quite hear that.
I wanna see if we can fix that audio issue real quick.
- Okay.
- Well, we're gonna wait just a second.
We're gonna make sure we can get the audio fixed
real quick on him.
Just hold on one second and we'll get him in there.
But we do have some clips from Owen that I noticed
that were pretty popular on YouTube
that I wanted to share as well.
We had one from the Young Turks,
where he's kind of talking about how even Fox News
has seemed to become more right-wing
than they had been in the past
and maybe becoming more conservative
due to the influence of shows like Infowars
or from Alex or from Owen.
This is a clip that we had on, it's near question two.
It's gonna be one of our second clips.
Owen Troyer on the Young Turks.
It's Fox News Sounds More Like Infowars.
So we're gonna, let's see if we can pull up
just a few minutes of this video.
Yeah, let's go ahead and play that
and we'll get our audio fixed real quick.
>> Understanding current events, politics more so than ever before.
And it was the raid of Mar-a-Lago really that pushed the Overton window that far.
>> So that's one of Alex Jones' minions over on the Infowars network.
And the point that he's getting towards is that thanks to Infowars being so crazy and
the right wing becoming ever more crazy, right wing media looks more and more like Infowars
every single day.
And dude works for Infowars is out of his mind, but I think he might actually be on
to something.
So let's watch his full remarks.
>> Fox News at night sounds more like Infowars this week than ever before, than ever before.
So that's kind of the time period we're in now, we're in the Infowars paradigm of understanding
current events, politics more so than ever before.
And it was the raid of Mar-a-Lago really that pushed the Overton window that far.
So I see that as a great victory.
>> I see that as the reinforcements arriving.
I see that as the truth finally rising to the top, despite the attempts to chill free
speech, censor free speech, bully, intimidate and terrorize people from speaking the truth.
It all comes from the American left in our modern political parlance.
But it was Infowars that was groundbreaking.
It is Infowars that's been set for destruction.
You know this.
>> Yeah, so he might be a lot of things, but is he really wrong?
Is there much of a difference between Fox News and Infowars?
I mean, Tucker Carlson talks constantly about how much he looks up to Alex Jones.
He delivers the same sort of anti-Semitic, racist, homophobic rants that you would see
on an Alex Jones.
Now, is this a good thing for America?
Obviously not.
I mean, on Infowars, you can learn about how they're putting stuff in the water to turn
the frogs gay.
And they've got lasers that can combine hurricanes or maybe separate hurricanes.
And Al Gore fires it from Antarctica.
It's literally a thing that they say.
They believe that literally every mass shooting was planned by the government.
That's been true for literally decades.
And they began doing this, making up every mass shooting to take away your guns.
Now, exactly how the government would manage this or why they would have planned hundreds
of mass shootings and never actually gotten around to taking the guns, they never actually
explain.
It's a crazy worldview to believe that there's no chaos in the world.
There's nothing random.
Every single thing is planned is a weird way to go about your life, but I do think he kind
of has a point.
What do you think?
>> 100%, but he's wrong about the raid being some sort of tipping point.
>> Yeah.
>> No way.
So there's two giant things that happen that turn the Republican Party into Alex Jones.
And so one was Donald Trump, because Donald Trump is not faking it, he's an actual conspiracy
theorist.
He's every conspiracy theory, he pushed Obama birth certificate one because he genuinely
believed it.
He's like, that black guy couldn't have been born here, okay.
>> So we got a little bit of sample here and what I find interesting about Owen's commentary
that the young Turks are just slandering and gaslighting him, because of course they can't
just say that he's normal, they have to say he's crazy, he's crazy.
And then they bring up the fact that he's insane because they just have to every other
word use an adjective to try and say that he's crazy or he's going insane.
Even though if we think about it, has Alex Jones or Owen or the Infowars really even
changed that much in the last few years?
It seems like they have the same conservative values.
They have the same viewpoints.
They're staying really consistent and stable, whereas these leftists and these basic minions
of the Democratic Party like the Young Turks always have to use these adjectives of, "Oh,
he's crazy and he's just insane," and really just a gaslighting technique to try and drive
a narrative to suggest that somehow the conservatives are the crazy ones, not the leftists and not
all of the people on the Young Turks, but rather conservatives.
So I do think we're getting our audio issues fixed and I want to bring in Owen to get
his commentary on this, but it's just, it's really frustrating how the left always seems
to project and seems to gaslight the scenario of their enemy, of the conservative movement.
And I do think that Infowars is having an impact, that people like Tucker Carlson and
people on Fox News are able to talk about topics that were considered not available
because they're becoming so mainstream because of how popular alternative conservative media
has become and how big the show is, Infowars and how many people that they reach.
And so I'm really hoping that we can continue to shift the Overton window, as it's called,
and continue to push back and force a lot of these people to talk about the real issues
of the day.
I want to double check, do we have Owen back on the line?
Can we hear him?
Hey, Owen, can you hear us?
Loud and clear.
All right.
Sorry about that.
We really apologize about that, but we're glad to have you on the show.
Thanks so much for joining us.
And did you get to hear any of that clip that we just shared?
I did.
And I remember the clip when they originally aired it.
And you know, it's funny, I don't know the guy's name who was commenting there, but he
insults me, he insults my intelligence, but he would never dare actually debate me.
He would never dare actually try to hold his intellect against mine in a discussion.
And so I find it hilarious that he would insult my intelligence on the air, but he would never
dare prove that he's smarter than me with an intellectual discourse.
But the topic of discussion is, yeah, we're moving the Overton window.
And that's why they're so mad.
And if we weren't effective, he wouldn't be complaining about me and insulting me.
I think that's a great point about the debate.
And even if he did get on the show, all he would do is just use ad hominem attacks and
just insult your character rather than actually being willing to discuss the issue.
I find it interesting.
Do you even believe that many of these talking heads or leftists are even reasonable people?
Like you could win them over with logic or reason, or is there really kind of no hope
for some of these individuals?
Sadly, I have learned this, and that is that there is no hope.
And when I first got into politics, which was something I never thought I would end
up in, I mean, I was, if anything, I was anti-political, vehemently.
And so when I first got into politics, or really not even necessarily got into politics,
a better way to describe it is when I first started to understand how the world worked,
or when I first took the red pill, as they may use the matrix analogy, or when I put
the glasses on for the "they live" analogy.
When that first happened, and it was such an eye-opening experience for me, I assumed
everybody else would want access to this, right?
I assume everybody else would want this information.
I was denied this information, I was denied this understanding, and when I got it, I was
thankful.
I assumed everybody else would want to know how the world works too.
I would assume everybody else ... We notice the things going on around us.
We all know things are corrupt, but there's actual answers.
There's explanations.
There's things that are happening.
There's things you can do.
I assumed everybody else would be interested in that and want to hear me out.
Sadly, what I came to find out, and I was apolitical at the time, or non-political,
what I came to find out was that that wasn't the case.
Then consistently, it was the same groups with the same ideologies that weren't interested
in this information, weren't interested in truth, weren't interested in reality, and
it was always leftists, liberals, progressives, democrats, every single time.
This unintentionally, for me, ended up becoming an entire genre of content on the internet,
which is me going out debating liberals.
That was never the intention.
The intention was to go out and wake people up.
The intention was to go out and share information and share knowledge and have people have the
same awakening that I've had.
It doesn't mean we're going to see eye to eye on everything, but at least understand
a basic principle of how the world works, how politics works and why things are so corrupt,
why things are the way we seem, but we don't get any answers or explanations for.
That hope was quickly put out and I learned very quickly, again, I didn't come into it
right or left.
It was just, "Oh, geez, this is what a liberal is.
This is what a progressive is.
This is what a Democrat is."
It was consistent and that was always the case.
I ended up on the right side, if you will, more just because the left has rejected reality
and now just rejects common sense.
That's why so many people are leaving the Democrat Party.
But the answer to your question is sadly, "No, I think they are gone."
And I think what has to happen is they have to experience something in their own life.
And that's why more and more people are waking up to this because more and more it's encroaching
this tyranny and this facade of our world is encroaching on our lives.
And so for a lot of people, it was the vaccine and the vaccine mandates and people getting
sick and everybody around them getting sick from the vaccine.
So there's different situations that force somebody into this reality.
But what we're witnessing, it's like a filter, right?
It's like a purification process.
And at this point, you're five vaccines deep.
You really think Joe Biden is the answer to all your problems.
You're the most brainwashed.
You still haven't been filtered through this.
You still haven't gotten through this yet.
I don't know what it takes for people like that.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, it's interesting.
Obviously, truth seems to be the common denominator here of what's kind of driving people in a
particular political direction these days.
But even Anna Kasparian, which I don't know if you know who that is on The Young Turks,
she's kind of a co-host, she did an interview with Ben Shapiro and it sounded like she kind
of moderated some of her views because I guess she was assaulted outside of her home just
walking down the street and saying, "You know what?
This homeless problem is actually an issue.
I wish we would kind of talk about this or do something about that."
And of course, I don't think that she's necessarily ever going to become a conservative or someone
that really pursues truth, but at least for her, that physical assault was kind of a
wake-up call, like, "Oh, wow, maybe this is a serious issue."
And I mean, even people like Bill Maher, I feel like I've seen on Infowars some clips
of Bill Maher even talking sometimes, which he's a crazy leftist in my opinion.
But even he is kind of saying like, "Wow, this is kind of crazy.
I like free speech.
I feel like we're headed in a weird direction."
It'd be interesting to me if we could actually get a real poll and find out what percentage
of our country is actually this leftist Democrat style agenda.
Because from my perspective, I kind of think that the media is doing a big psi-op and trying
to convince everybody there's a big populace on their side.
Whereas when I go out in the real world, I never seem to meet very many of these people.
I mean, what is your kind of idea as far as like, is the whole country actually behind
this agenda or do you think it's just kind of being a trick by the media?
Yeah, it's definitely the loud minority and it's fractioning itself off as their movement
gets crazier.
They're losing feminists because now they say men can be women and men should be in
women's locker rooms and compete with women in sports.
So they're losing feminists.
They're a self-eating ideology that will fraction itself into complete nothingness and that's
why the entire left-wing ideology in its modern American parlance, it has a finite lifespan.
It's not going to go on forever.
But I think most people, if they're being honest, maybe they're not Republicans or maybe
they don't consider themselves conservatives, but you talk to people about these issues,
most people are going to align with the common sense stuff.
And we don't get fairly represented in media, we don't get fairly represented in culture,
we don't get fairly represented politically.
And so yeah, we haven't even realized the majority that we really are.
And that's definitely part of the SIOP.
And that's why the internet censorship is so key, because the one place where we had
an organic chance to actually see real world representation was on the internet with YouTube
and Facebook and Twitter.
And so what did the left do?
As it always does in human history, no matter the culture, no matter the country, it censors
its opposition because it has to continue that facade.
It has to continue that SIOP that they are the majority.
Well, yeah, okay, if you've got 500 on your team, but a thousand on the other team, but
then you take 600 of the 1,000 off the field for the other team, well, now guess what?
You do have more than them on the field, but that's not because you actually have more
than them.
That's just because you rigged the field.
And so that's what they've done in all of these different venues and all of these different
arenas.
And so more and more people are abandoning Hollywood.
They're abandoning the mainstream and we've got a parallel economy being built with parallel
technology being built.
And so really it's kind of a race against time.
I mean, we've got the Biden administration trying to start world war three right now.
So we may not get to this point of completion of actually realizing the parallel economy
and defeating this leftism with the free market economy.
World War Three may hit before that happens.
But yeah, there's no doubt as you talked about with the Kasparian story, they're going to
experience something where their own ideology is going to end up backfiring.
And whether that's going out in your city and getting mugged or assaulted or raped,
which Austin is getting worse and worse, the liberal Austin I think may soon turn red.
I know that might be hard to believe, but the stuff that's going downhill here is just
truly incredible.
But you know, you bring up Bill Maher, here's a perfect example.
There are liberal Democrats, there are progressive Democrats, but the modern day, the Democrat
Party has gone so far to the left.
This is beyond a liberal progressive.
This is total mass mental illness.
This is total Stockholm syndrome.
This is far left communist authoritarian totalitarian ideology now that has really taken the reins
of the Democrat Party.
Which is interesting to me because you talked about them eliminating people.
It seems like they're also eliminating people on their own team.
In my estimation, they're headed in a crash course.
It's not sustainable.
People aren't getting on board.
It seems like they're losing people every day with getting crazier and weirder and hurting
more and more people and people are kind of even waking up to this and having their own
personal experiences.
A lot of things, the sads is waking a lot of people up.
In my view, it seems like they're kind of running out of time a little bit in the sense
that they kind of have a lot of momentum right now, but if they don't capitalize on this
momentum, it could get to a point where the tides turn a little bit and things kind of
shift and change.
So just from your kind of perspective, what kind of things is going to be beneficial or
how can we kind of slow their progress to where essentially we're not going to go to
this crazy extreme.
We're not going to have a full communist takeover because, again, my opinion, the younger generation
is not that smart.
When you look at the Hunter Bidens, when you look at some of the AOCs, when you look at
basically the young Democrat Party, it's not really as smart and cunning and capable as
the current regime.
And so if the current regime, which seems to be like 11 billion years old, all dies,
you know, who's going to inherit their, you know, basically left this scheme to kind of
take over the country?
It doesn't seem like it's going to work unless they kind of capitalize now.
I mean, Carl Schwab is how old, I don't even know how old he is, is he 80s or 50s or something
like that?
He's got to be close to the end, you would hope, but you know, you've got people like
George Soros.
I mean, how old is George Soros?
80s, 90s?
Yeah, 80s.
I mean, you've got a lot of these people that are kind of the ringleaders.
I mean, even Bill Gates is getting up there.
A lot of these people are just kind of that a lot older generation.
I don't know if there's a younger generation that's going to be able to carry the torch.
So if they don't get it done now, it may not happen.
I'm kind of interested in what your thoughts are as far as, are they just going to go full
scale in the next few years because of this, or do you think there is a competent group
behind them?
What was kind of your perspective?
Well, surface level, you're absolutely right.
And the Democrat party is going to try to save itself politically.
I don't know, they may go back to the old, they may go back to the old rag house for
the 2024 election and pick another, you know, warmed up husk like Joe Biden, or don't even
be surprised if it's Hillary Clinton.
I think the more likely scenario is they're going to look for somebody that is more of
the youth of the party, like a Gavin Newsom.
They may even have an outstretched arm to Michelle Obama.
They're still living in the dream world of the Barack Obama years.
So the Democrats would be interested in Michelle Obama.
I don't know if she is, she is interested herself, but really that's kind of just the
surface level.
As I said, this ideology has a finite time period.
It'll exhaust itself out, it's cannibalistic.
The real issue is what's behind the Democrat party.
Sure, the Democrat party and what it really is now, the communist fascistic left, will
destroy America politically, but what's lurking behind them is the real issue.
And that's where the Klaus Schwab's and the George Soros and what we politically call
the globalists enter the frame.
They'd love to mop up America after the Democrats collapse it.
This is part of the central banking digital currency run to have a central world bank
in a central world government with World Health Organization medical tyranny in which you
basically have what will be considered a social credit score.
And you'll have rations for how much you can eat.
You'll have rations for how much you can travel.
You'll have rations for what energy you can consume and everything else.
But they have to collapse America.
And ultimately they have to get Putin out of Russia as well.
And so that's the two big issues
we're going to be dealing with.
We're going to be dealing with, you know, one of the biggest problems that we're going
to be dealing with, is that we're going to have to turn, get back to American prosperity
easily, easily within a decade, if not shorter than that.
But that's not what we're really dealing with.
What we're dealing with is the monster lurking behind that, which is the global government
medical tyranny, central bank, digital currency, social credit score system that will mop up
whatever the Democrats have destroyed.
And so that's the real issue.
I wish we were just dealing with this Democrat party and the evils and the destruction that
it's going to bring.
But behind it looks the monster and that's what you hear about at the World Economic
Forum.
That's what you hear about at the Council on Foreign Relations.
And this is the concept, the idea of a global government that they tried to deny for so
long.
Now they're promoting it like a good thing.
Yeah, I mean, I agree with you that it seems like the Democrats are just kind of the face
of the organization in a sense.
They're just kind of the pawn that's being used for an ulterior motive.
What's interesting to me is exactly what, you know, this group, whether you call them
globalist or whatever, what their ultimate goal is with America.
If they want to just subdue America to the point where they're just totally under their
control, kind of like in a slave type state, or if they just want to completely destroy
it, because obviously America benefits them in the sense that it provides a lot of wealth,
a lot of luxury.
Obviously, they're reaping a lot of taxes from us.
And looking at other countries, you know, while we have high taxes right now, some countries
have a lot higher.
So, I mean, they could reap a lot more money from us, in my estimation, they could reap
a lot more resources.
If they drag us into more wars, the military industrial complex could also profit from
that.
You know, in your viewpoint, do you think that this globalist regime wants America actually
completely destroyed and taken over by, let's say, China or just some other, like Russia
or somebody else?
Or do you think they want to just weaken them to the point where they're kind of under their
thumb and their control?
Well, there's a reason why America is still the most desirable place to live on earth.
There's a reason why most people still want to come here.
And so that is, though, not the freedoms we believe we should have, still probably
the most free place, or definitely probably the best place to go from zero, to go from
nothing to something, to build to build something from nothing is still probably America.
Now, as far as the notion that that America is beneficial to whatever power group is in
charge of this global government, you're absolutely right.
However, it's death by a thousand cuts.
And so they don't want to have a situation where they have to actually deal with the
force of America.
They don't want to have a situation where America actually has a unification awakening
where we can overthrow this and take our government back and take our country back and take our
future back.
So absolutely, they want to try to thread that needle.
They want to try to ride that wave that'll be some form of a perfect balance between
keeping America under the guise of free market capitalism, under the guise that we have a
bill of rights, under the guise that it's a land of justice as they slowly but surely
are removing that.
And then by the time you're into the global government tyranny, they just turn it on
and you can't get out of it.
And so it won't matter whether you fly an American flag or whether you spit on the American
flag.
You're all going to be in the social credit system and you're all going to be in the
medical tyranny and it'll probably be a situation where you've basically got these breakaway
societies that aren't allowed any technology and they'll be able to harvest something
and they'll be able to build their own communities.
But it's gonna be these super cities
where they allow you access to all of the resources
and you have to be there if you wanna get your stimulus
and you have to be there if you wanna get your food.
In fact, I have a story, I'm gonna be covering it,
but it's right here in front of me.
It just so happens to be about the idea
of 15-minute cities.
And so you get into that city, you're never coming out.
But hey, you need water, you need food, you need energy.
You need a shower.
Come on into the 15-minute city
and then you're never getting out.
And then you're gonna be forcefully injected
and now you no longer have bodily autonomy or any rights.
But there's no doubt the globalists have benefited
from the United States of America.
And there's no doubt they're gonna have to try
to thread the needle or ride that wave
without waking up the people to such an extent
that we can unify and get this concept
of a global government out of our minds
and out of our policies.
- Well, I wanna ask you about another connection here
'cause we look at the Democrat Party
as kind of a pawn of this globalist agenda.
But I wanna try to take it even another layer higher
than this globalist agenda
and suggest that in my view,
it kind of looks like it's maybe a spiritual issue
where you really have the devil
kind of being at the top of this food chain
and the globalists are his pawns
and he's using those people to influence the Democrats
and it's just kind of a trickle-down system.
And what we kind of see is a full-scale attack
against Christians.
And why I think that in America,
white men are the most demonized people
and they're just so hated
is because when we talk about fighting America,
I view America as just the strong men in our country,
the men that are willing to stand for truth,
the people that are willing to fight for freedom of speech,
the men that are willing to go out there
and make a difference.
And traditionally that's been Christian men.
And of course, if you look at demographics,
who is the majority Christians in this world?
It seems to be white American men
are those who are Christians,
those who actually hold the gospel and the Bible dear
to them.
I mean, if you look at American history,
it's very evident that our founders were ones
who had high regard to the Bible.
The Bible is what gave us our laws.
The Bible is what gave us our country
and they're what built it.
So to tear it down, they have to use labels
like the patriarchy and white supremacy
and all these different things.
But from my viewpoint, they're just attacking Christianity.
They're just attacking the truth.
They're attacking the Bible.
And it's kind of the devil
is just kind of using these individuals through,
I agree with you, the death of a thousand cuts.
But I mean, what is your assessment
of this being like a spiritual problem,
especially considering those on the furthest side
of the left are just, they hate truth.
They never want to hear anything that's truthful.
They seem to resist truth.
I'm kind of curious what your perspective is
on that kind of a viewpoint.
- Well, this is an undeniable observation
that I think it's hard for people
that haven't maybe had this acceptance themselves
to fully comprehend,
but there's no doubt it is a spiritual battle.
And I'm somebody who actually went through a phase
of being a nihilist, an agnostic,
and I'm glad I was raised Christian Catholic,
and I'm proud to be a Christian now.
But when you go through that
and you come out on the other end, on the other side,
you kind of get a better idea of the psychology
and the makeup,
and you understand where they're coming from.
But the observable traits are, for example,
when I go to an abortion rally,
which in and of itself is absolutely abhorrent,
even if you believe in abortion
or so-called abortion rights,
you're gonna rally for abortion?
Like, you're gonna do death rallies?
Don't you see that, can you read the room here?
But no, they do these things, and I just show up.
I just show up, and within under a minute,
people are already death-threatening me, already wailing.
I mean, you can see demons coming out of these people.
And again, I know that sounds crazy,
and a lot of people say, oh, well, you're nuts.
It happens every time.
It happens every time I go to these things.
And there's another thing that you
may notice when pro-abortion people get confronted--
and this seems to specifically happen outside of abortion
facilities--
they stick their tongue out, and they literally
start gnashing and wailing, like a demon is being exercised
from their body.
And so when you deny creation, when you deny divine creation,
and when you deny the creator, and when you deny
God and a higher power, you're opening yourself up to Satan,
unwittingly or wittingly, and so you become a pawn of evil,
whether you realize it or not.
And so that's why so much of what we see
is driven by hatred, the blindness of people,
the denial of truth.
It's all driven from a place of hatred.
And when you don't appreciate the divine creation
and the gift of life that we have,
you start to develop a hatred, you start to develop
a resentment, because nothing matters to you.
And so absolutely the spiritual battle is won.
They don't even hide it anymore
when they have their satanic rituals on TV,
seemingly every weekend now,
just blatantly worshiping the devil.
It's not even subtle anymore.
It's blatantly in your face.
And then it says brought to you by Pfizer.
And we all know what has happened recently
with these vaccines that Bill Gates says
need to be used to control the global population.
So you're absolutely right.
It's the dichotomy of man.
It's been documented throughout human history,
the battle of good versus evil.
And if you deny God, and if you deny creation,
then inherently you're denying that such a thing exists.
You're denying that there's good.
You're denying that there's evil.
And so therefore you can become an instrument of evil
and you wouldn't even recognize it.
- Well, of course, if you're gonna deny God,
then you deny that men are men, women are women.
You deny virtually any fact, two plus two equals four.
Talking about you getting assaulted,
I think Ben has a clip of some of the times
that you've been attacked.
I think, I wanted to try and show that.
Do you know what clip we can get them to show?
- Well, let's go with,
I got one here called Tank and Infowars,
enemy of the people.
Let's look at that one real quickly.
But you confronting Owen, some of these leftists out
on the street is how I discovered who you are.
And it was before you ever worked for Infowars.
I saw a clip, you're gonna know who this is,
a blast from the past, Ades Skrillex.
And you're, he's shaking his head, he knows,
he's nodding, he knows who I'm talking about.
But you're out there,
you're kind of going back and forth with them.
And I remember just being flabbergasted,
'cause at the time I did think that maybe these people
can be reasoned with, right?
That maybe it's possible to change their mind
through some kind of structured discourse,
when in reality, that's not the case.
They're unreasonable, they're demonic,
they hate truth, they hate God.
But my point is though, watching you interact with them
was, like I said, I hadn't been exposed to that before.
So we did an interview, you probably don't remember,
'cause you've done a lot of interviews, I'm sure,
but it was back in 2016, I interviewed you on a podcast
I was doing just to talk about that.
But yeah, let's play this clip here
so we can show the audience a little,
give them a little taste of what you've done
in terms of confronting these freaks head on.
- When this thing first started, what did they say?
COVID was the most deadly thing that's ever hit this country.
It's gonna be the next plague.
The numbers are in.
It's less deadly than the seasonal flu.
And now our governor and our city council
wanna reshut down the economy.
They wanna make you wear a mask
that doesn't even stop COVID.
- This is the most racist crap I've ever seen in my life.
- Congratulations, dude.
What did you accomplish?
- Infowars, enemy of the people.
Infowars, enemy of the people.
Infowars, hey, it's getting loud in here.
Infowars, enemy of the people.
- Oh, and as this guy is running up to you
and he's regurgitating his NPC nonsense,
what's going through your head
when you're in a confrontation like that?
- Well, in that situation, that particular situation,
I was already a seasoned veteran
and so I kind of knew how to deal with these people
and I did have security with me that day.
And I'm a pretty good reader of people as well.
I can tell when there's a serious situation
or if there's a guy like that
who just wants to puff up his chest.
And I just gotta say too, before I answer the question,
he comes up to me, he starts saying,
"Enemy of the people, end of the people."
Man, you're not gonna meet a more person
of the people than me.
I mean, it's just, I'm maxed out for the people.
So it's everything they say about me is a lie
and they never wanna actually have reasonable discourse
with me because they know they'll be completely
picked apart, dissected and smashed down to smithereens.
But to answer your question,
I am actually an extremely impatient person
and I've had to develop that patience throughout my life.
It's funny because my mom used to talk to me about this
and she'd be saying, "Owen, you know what?"
She'd say, "God is testing you with this impatience
"for something later in your life."
Said, "You need to learn patience."
And it was something she always told me
and maybe this was it, maybe this was it.
But like I said, you're saying that you've never
seen anything like that, really nobody has.
I mean, nobody went out and just for hours on end
would sit there with a microphone
and catch liberals foaming at the mouth
and then in real time, challenging their intellect
and proving that it doesn't exist.
So again, I was always trying to bring the people together.
I was always trying to unify.
That was always the goal.
I was stunned when I found that people
weren't interested in that.
And I was stunned at the level of hatred that people had.
I'd only experienced that from people that loved abortion
throughout the years because I've always been pro-life
politically and attended the pro-life march in DC
before I was really even interested in politics.
But like I said, I can't even do this content anymore,
which is what most people like the most of the stuff
that I've done in my life of all the live shows
and presentations and rallies and protests.
That is the most popular stuff is my street videos
going out and confronting the liberals head on.
But I can't even do that anymore.
Every time I go out now, I get assaulted every time.
And because of some legal situations I'm in right now,
if I get arrested, I can't, basically for a certain
probation I have for my political persecution,
if I get arrested, there's no questions.
They lock me up, throw away the key.
So I can't go out there.
I can't get in a confrontation.
I can't wind up in a situation where I might have
to defend myself and end up getting arrested.
So I gotta be a really good boy.
I gotta be a really good boy as I'm being
politically persecuted and I've had my First Amendment
and my rights violated here.
This is what happens when you live in a banana republic
in a communist totalitarian tyranny.
But this is what we're fighting and this is why
we're fighting it and people will be made an example.
And I have it good compared to other people
with the political persecution they're dealing with
in this country.
But you know, in that particular video, again,
it's just like, you know, how does Michael Jordan
hit a layup?
Well, he's hit 10,000 of them in his life.
So hey, how do you deal with a foaming at the mouth
liberal, by the way, reeking of BO.
That was one of the worst smelling liberals
that I have ever confronted.
And there's multiple times where you can see the shirt
with the pit stains.
It's like, it's actually a tool they use.
I mean, talk about Satan, it's a tool they use,
their body odor to offend you, literally.
That's why they don't shower.
- They're like the ugliest people ever too.
- Spiritually and sadly on the outside.
So in that particular situation, it was just like, you know,
just another day, another crazy liberal.
I was expecting it.
So I just, sadly it's just I'm used to it.
- We've had people like that protesting our church
for like three years straight and they're gross.
It's awful looking at them, seeing them,
having to interact.
And I kind of wonder,
do you think that guy is like a real person
or do you think he's just a paid protester?
Like how many of these people are even real?
- I thought you were going to go with the NPC route.
You know, if that guy's a paid protester, you know,
you'd think that they could find a better crop of talent.
- Well, no, I mean, he has a pretty rehearsal line there.
- Yeah, he did have his talking points down,
but that was a small event, actually,
that I was going to in an attempt to,
'cause I'm actually against the war on drugs,
and I've been against the war on drugs
ever since I presented myself politically.
And so that was actually a leftist event
that was an anti-war on drugs event,
and I was going to go cover it as like,
hey, this is a good thing.
This is something that you call me somebody
that's a conservative or a right winger.
Hey, guess what?
I'm for small government.
I don't believe the war on drugs is a good thing either.
Maybe this is something we can agree on.
And I was never even allowed to have the conversation.
Before I could even have the conversation,
the loonies, like you saw in the clip there,
immediately started encroaching and rubbing up on me.
And have you ever had that one?
This is the one,
and I think this is why they do the body odor trick,
because they rub up on you.
They get up on you, they kind of hump you a little bit.
They might get in a pinch or a grab,
and they just want to be real subtle.
So nobody notices, like, "Oh, nobody will see me pinch him.
"Nobody will see me hump him."
And then when you push off or you fight back, it's,
"Oh, oh my God, what's the deal with that?"
- Yeah, that exact thing happened
to one of our church members, and then he got,
the cops showed up and they cited our church member
as opposed to them, who they're provoking it.
They're getting on top of them and touching him
and dressed, not even dressed, really.
And a lot of times they use women,
because women almost always seem to get
the automatic win card.
I believe you talked about that.
I saw an interview with some other lady
and you were talking about how some lady just grabbed you.
- Yeah, it was at the women's march.
- Like assaulted you and you went to the cop
and you said that she admitted that she assaulted you
to the cop and he still didn't even care.
Whereas the opposite is never ever gonna be prosecuted.
They don't really care.
And it's just kind of, they know what game they're playing.
They wanna just get in your face and get you to just react
and then use that against you.
And it's just, it's kind of a,
it's a tactic that they like to employ.
- Yeah, and let's be clear about that.
Because, I mean, there should be different rules
for men and women.
Men and women are different.
There should be different societal and civilization
and cultural norms for men and women.
We aren't the ones that destroyed that.
That was the left.
The feminists did that.
We're just living in the world that they created.
Now, in fairness, that woman,
despite the officer not arresting her that day,
I did press charges and I did win in court.
And she now has sexual assault on her record.
And I won that court case.
But I went to four straight women's marches
and was assaulted four straight years.
And every time I was assaulted,
it happened right in front of a police officer
and they did nothing.
And quite frankly, the only reason why I think that girl
ended up getting arrested and charged
was because it was sexual in nature
and she did brag about it on camera.
But I've been spat on on camera, showed it to police,
they wouldn't arrest the guy.
I've been punched right in front of the police,
they wouldn't arrest the guy.
I've been shoved, I've had equipment broken.
I mean, of the 20 times I've been assaulted,
I've probably filed five or more police reports
and I've had one arrest.
And so it's just sad that this is the case.
And now you see, and they think,
"Oh, we're gonna defund the police,
this is gonna work for us."
Well, how do you think that's gonna go
when you come try to take our firearms?
Who are you gonna send to make us take a vaccine?
Who are you gonna send to tell us to wear a mask
if you don't have your police making us do it?
- Right, they quickly call the cops
whenever they want them and they need them.
But at the same time, they hate them for some reason.
It's really a bully tactic.
They're kind of like this this terroristic mafia
that controls the police by threatening
to take away their paycheck if they don't do their bidding.
And so it seems that now they're kind of pulling their strings
a little bit, you know.
And of course, when we talk about getting assaulted,
if we went to a conservative rally
and a leftist showed up and he got assaulted,
it would be on every media station.
Everyone gets sued, people be locked up.
You know, I remember seeing recently James O'Keefe,
he did that Pfizer undercover interview
and he showed up in front of the guy
and the guy's like throwing his tablet on the ground,
breaking their equipment and of course,
nothing ended up happening.
I think the cops claimed that they might have
actually arrested that guy if he was still there present.
But you know, obviously there's a one-way treatment
from the system and you know,
I'm just curious what's next.
I mean, we've talked about censorship a little bit.
I mean, how bad is the censorship gonna get?
You know, you see people like James O'Keefe
getting kicked out of his own company.
You know, I don't even know what happened there entirely.
I don't think, I don't even know if he knows
what's going on there entirely.
But I mean, what do you see the censorship going?
People like James O'Keefe, you know, losing his own company.
You guys have obviously been attacked and had lawsuits
and all kinds of crazy stuff happened to you.
You know, I saw there's an ADL article
where they wanna basically just turn off website URLs.
I mean, do you think that we're actually gonna start
seeing that come down the pike
or is this just kind of threatening?
- That's absolutely in the future
if we don't start moving the ball the right way.
And the situation in Ukraine
and what ends up happening in the next two years
is gonna be extremely important as to which way this goes.
In the global government, censorship will be the norm,
a lot like what you have in China.
But what we are seeing now
is the parallel economy is being built
and I think censorship is actually taking
some major blows right now.
Elon Musk buying Twitter, reinstating a bunch of accounts,
it's not perfect, I haven't had my official account back,
obviously in fours Alex Jones, but it's better than it was.
At least there's some pushback there.
There are competitors that are built and operating now,
like Rumble, where I'm allowed to exist,
and Getter, where I'm allowed to exist.
And so we're building the parallel economy,
but it could all be shut off,
it could all be shut down tomorrow.
But if we're allowed this free market
for the foreseeable future,
eventually the censorship battle will be lost by the left.
Now, the issue is narrative control.
And they've really focused on the internet lately
'cause this is where the youth goes.
It was a lot easier to have narrative control
on television, specifically 50 years ago,
when you only had one network and then three networks,
and they would all say the same thing.
Well, the Murdochs came around and created Fox News.
Rush Limbaugh came around and created the Rush Limbaugh show.
And that kind of created the parallel economy
of political talk.
And that kind of created the whole new economy
of conservative media.
And so the narrative control is they
want you to only see what Joe Biden says.
Here's a perfect example.
And this is Fox News engaging in it as well.
Did you guys know Donald Trump spoke last night?
I had no idea.
I only heard that Joe Biden spoke, obviously
banging the war drums.
But that was pretty much it.
What about Nikki Haley?
Did you know she's running for president?
I did know that.
So this is a perfect example.
Now, why did you know about Nikki Haley
but not Donald Trump?
Because the television is showing you Nikki Haley.
The television is showing you Joe Biden.
They're not showing you Donald Trump.
Donald Trump gave one of his best speeches
of the year last night.
Nobody covered it except right side broadcasting.
Donald Trump released a video today calling for peace
and negotiations between Russia and Ukraine.
They didn't play it on TV.
They didn't force feed it into your email.
They didn't force feed it into your newsfeed.
So this is narrative control.
And this is how they're able to make sure you don't see
what Trump is saying or you don't see what Putin is saying
and you only see what they want you to see.
You only see the issues they want you to see.
It's part of their plan.
They didn't want anybody talking about East Palestine,
but thank goodness for independent press
and thank goodness for independent media
and the First Amendment.
Now that's a big issue and they're gonna have to address it
and do something about it.
But that would not have happened
if it wasn't for alternative media.
They would have controlled the narrative,
told you to look at a balloon in the sky
and not look at the disaster
that actually happened on the ground.
- Well, and Twitter seems to be helping a lot,
even though I'm not saying I'm a big Elon fan,
but I did see even on Twitter,
it's being shared Putin's speech that he gave recently.
And it's about two minutes.
I wanna see if we can pull that up real quick
and just play that for our audience.
Because if you listen to the left-wing media,
if you listen to the newspaper,
Putin is like the antichrist or something.
I mean, this guy is just the worst scum.
He's evil incarnate.
Putin just hates everything that's holy and righteous.
And I think they would be,
they're just terrified of you actually hearing anything
that Putin actually says,
because when you actually hear what Putin has to say,
he sounds like more of an American president
than the weekend at Biden.
So let's go ahead and play this clip real quick
and just get a perspective of what Putin's even like.
(speaking in foreign language)
All right, we can pause that.
There is a English translation version of it.
I wish I'd pulled that one up,
but you could still at least see the subtitles there.
And Putin's saying that basically all of us,
even as a whole world, agree virtually
that there is one man, one woman, that's marriage.
And apart from the West, we all agree on these issues.
And he's saying, parts of Europe and America
are the ones that are making
these giant transformations of the church.
He even criticized the Anglican church,
who was suggesting the idea that God is non-binary
or is gender neutral or some nonsense or something like that.
And Putin is essentially saying,
why can't we fight for traditional marriage?
Why can't we fight for conservative, you know?
And I use the word conservative.
Really, I'm probably being wrong
because they've shifted over the window so far to the left
that just anybody that believes two plus two equals four
is almost like a conservative, it seems like these days.
But, you know-- - Extremists.
- Yeah, and again, because they've shifted it so far,
like if you're normal, like if you think about Barack Obama,
Barack Obama's presidency,
like before when he was running for election,
he said that he believed marriage was between one man
and one woman, and that's what he believed.
He would be labeled as a right-wing extremist
for having those views.
That is how quickly they've shifted.
And that's not even truly right-wing
to just simply even say that.
The pope has said that homosexuality's
not even a crime anymore, and there's all this crazy stuff.
And it seems like the people that they demonize the most
are usually not even that bad a people,
or people that we'd probably agree with.
I mean, what are your views on Putin?
- Well, it's funny that you brought up Obama.
I literally wrote that down.
I wrote that down.
Can you see that right there?
It says Obama liberal.
It's my little bad fellowship that he's taking home.
But I literally wrote that down because, exactly,
if you listen to what Putin is saying,
by the way, the Russian television, RT,
did the English breakdown of Putin's two-hour speech,
if you guys wanna find it.
It's not being shown anywhere in the American media.
By the way, they tried to ban RT
from the major social media network,
so you couldn't see that.
But no, if you listen to what Putin is saying,
that's like an Obama liberal.
That was liberalism from 2004 to 2016.
That was liberalism.
That was a mainstream liberal against American imperialism,
against American wars, American expansionism, all this stuff.
That was an Obama liberal.
And that was common rhetoric from liberal Democrats
at the time that were anti-war.
And you know what, they were right.
They were right.
They were right to be against George Bush's wars in Iraq.
They were right to be upset with a million dead Iraqis.
They were right to be upset that weapons of mass destruction
was a lie.
They were right to be upset about that.
But apparently, they weren't right because they
weren't loyal to that.
And now they're pro-war.
And so what would be considered an Obama-liberal rhetoric,
whether it's men, women, or women,
and a marriage is between a man or a woman,
or the foreign policy issues, what Putin is saying
is an Obama-liberal, for 10 years,
that's a liberal Democrat during the Obama years
and the Bush years.
And so they don't want liberals to hear that
because some of them might still be able to think and say,
wait a second, what he's saying makes sense.
I don't know if you saw the Associated Press journalist
questioning John Kirby saying, hey,
who's the one expanding here?
Is it NATO or Russia?
And he had to admit it's NATO.
NATO is the one starting this war.
It's the West that is starting this war.
And so our media isn't on the lie.
Our government isn't on the lie.
And this used to be the stuff that liberals were against.
So it's shocking to see that this is now
a conservative anti-war movement, but there it is.
We've witnessed it.
Now, as far as Putin is concerned,
I think people need to understand
the greater context of this.
The last 48 hours have been extremely important
as far as the development
into a potential World War III is concerned.
China's probably gonna make a military commitment to Russia
by the end of the month.
That's gonna be extremely key.
Between Russia, China, and the United States,
they make up 94% of the world's nuclear arsenal.
Well, how do you think that is going to go
when the globalists are hell bent
on getting Putin out of power
and Putin now allied with China,
soon it'll be India and Iran and other countries officially,
and they want to get a Western despot
out of the presidency in Ukraine?
So this is unstoppable force meeting an immovable object,
and that's globalism versus Russia.
And so when you have Biden,
despite all the domestic disasters going on,
prioritizing Ukraine, going to Kiev,
selling you the war propaganda,
showing you the war theater,
and then going to Poland,
who they've still apparently culturally
have their own issues with Russia,
the leftover remnants of anger and rage
from the Soviet Union,
they've been foaming at the mouth.
The only European leadership
that's really been foaming at the mouth for this war
has been in Poland.
And of course that as a giant military theater
is significant as well.
So these are not minor developments.
And I'm stunned that the lack of sense of,
the lacking in urgency from our media
and from our government thinking,
oh, let's just wear a lapel pin.
Let's just put up a Ukraine flag.
Let's just give them some more money.
No, this is serious.
This is the real deal.
Russia is not Iraq.
Russia is not Afghanistan.
It's Russia.
And it has China behind it now.
And it's a nuclear power.
And its military is not a joke.
In the Russian military, they know what a man is.
And so they are men.
And so this is a very serious stuff.
I'm extremely concerned.
You know, I've been giving people some serious advice.
I'm not hedging on the future anymore.
I've gone all in on all I have guaranteed is tomorrow.
And I won't go into details as to what that means, make up your own interpretation.
But this was a serious last 48 hours, the warmongers are banging the drums, the theater,
the stage has been set for a larger war with Russia, and nobody's calling for peace except
Donald Trump and the media won't even show you.
Well, you know, in my estimation too, their scam is a little bit up.
I mean, there's so much pushback now with the vaccine.
There's so much pushback on basically what happened with COVID.
There's so much going on.
I mean, things are actually coming to light with Twitter being bought by Elon.
They can't control them as much as they want to.
They can't control all these alternative platforms starting to actually gain a little
bit of traction, build customer base.
They can't control the average American citizen.
And really, you know, the Hunter Biden laptop thing, they sat on for forever.
The Republicans are put in a tough situation because everybody is going to be like, are
you in on the scam?
If you don't do something here, they're starting to do some investigations and subpoenas and
things are just kind of falling apart at the seams.
And in my estimation, it almost seems like they need a war because let's say we enter
into World War Three, then that's a really easy pretext to actually bring in all the
censorship that they need.
They just say, oh, there's a lot of Russian misinformation and they're taking on a lot
of these sites and URLs, so we're going to be doing all kinds of online blackouts to
try and stop because we're in a serious war here.
We can't just allow free speech right now.
We're going to have a temporary executive order to stop free speech and to stop allowing
all these narratives.
Basically you just get CNN on YouTube or you get whatever government agency that they
want to basically communicate to the public and they basically just kind of shut everything
down under this guise and pretext of war plus they can just feed us whatever information
they want at that point.
If they have a single microphone they can convince people to do anything.
I mean again with COVID they really did seem to convince the mass majority of all kinds
of crazy things that were just kind of a boogeyman in my opinion.
So if you actually have the threat of war and you see you know things blowing up and
I mean we see in Ohio there was a steel factory that like blew up or is on caught on fire.
There's the lumber yard in New York that blew up and caught on fire.
It seems like our entire infrastructure is just being assaulted full scale.
You know I think that it's reasonable that these people are not stupid.
They know what they're doing and that they need war to kind of get out as a get out
of jail free card to cover their tracks to stop the bleeding to kind of control the narrative.
And you know it's going to be a tough sell because I don't think hardly any Americans
want to go and fight in this war.
I don't know how the morale would be very high.
But at the end of the day I think they want to drag us in there.
And you know I kind of was wondering if they might just go ahead and fully blame China
for covid because maybe that could drum up enough false anger like we're kind of shifting
the anger from Fauci and the people that are kind of behind this to just it's just China's
fault and look what they did to us.
And so now we all need to get mad and go fight China and Russia and they're the bad guys.
And if that could be like a big psyop to get enough people on board.
What is your thoughts on morale like how can they get enough morale to even fight in a
war like this?
Well, they definitely cracked the window open for that China narrative, but I don't suspect
they're going to open that and crawl through it.
They have a big problem with morale.
They have a big problem with morale because the left wing that currently occupies and
runs the military are anti-American.
And so of course you're going to have a problem with morale when you have a problem with patriotism.
You know, the last time the military saw a surplus of enlistment was after 9/11.
And so the remnants of that are kind of up.
And the follow-up wars from that are finishing.
And so they can still kind of run those maneuvers and run those operations and not get too many
questions.
But this new stuff, fighting Russians, I think it's going to be tougher.
Getting into some new confrontation with China is, I don't know how they're going to convince
people of that.
So I don't know what their plan with this is.
Now they have the ultimate tool of just dropping an atomic bomb.
And I guess it really doesn't matter how many troops you have or don't have if they want
to go that extreme.
But historically speaking, you're absolutely right.
When the establishment, when the elite, when the politicians are in trouble for whatever
reason, economically, socially, look at Bill Clinton, you know, caught cheating on his
wife however many times, he just goes and bombs Serbia.
Bill Clinton caught with an intern, he goes and bombs Kosovo.
So it's a well-known thing to distract from your own crimes or your own problems and start
wars.
And this is obviously bigger than any personal issue of, you know, Joe Biden and his business
dealing with Hunter or anything.
This is much larger than that.
We're talking about a global economic collapse.
We're talking about the collapse of borders.
We're talking about the collapse of the world as we've known it.
And what a perfect way to pull that cornerstone out, have it collapse intentionally and have
your entire infrastructure and apparatus already built so that when it does collapse, you've
got your entire power structure ready to go.
And so that's the real agenda here.
That's always the agenda with these world wars.
It's the same thing.
And so yeah, Biden will go along with it.
He's caught committing all kinds of crimes.
So he's going to be fine to go along with it to distract from his crimes.
And who knows however many other people involved with this vaccine, involved with the FTX scam.
So there's all kinds of stuff that people just want to go away.
And what a perfect way to cover it up with a world war.
And of course we're talking about the practicalities here.
We understand there's the higher levels and we kind of talked about the globalist agenda
and I kind of introduced the idea of the satanic agenda.
And I know we only have a few more minutes with you.
We want to respect your time and appreciate you coming on here.
But I kind of want to get your thoughts before we close.
You know the Bible talks about kind of at the end that there's going to be a lot of
wars, rumors of wars, the ultimate goal getting an antichrist into the chair of essentially
just total world control.
And you know from my perspective, if we get into a major conflict like this and we get
into major world war and this major censorship, if we see some definite changes in the Middle
East, maybe they start rebuilding the temple or some of the other things that the Bible
talks about, you know it really could be in my estimation getting us very close to the
end if not the actual end of the world.
Is that something that you think about?
Is that something that you think fits kind of the narrative that's being formed here?
Well I think there could be a couple different interpretations because the world as we know
it could collapse with an EMP.
If electronics went down and people couldn't start their cars and fire up their computers
and make a phone call, the world as we know it would cease to exist.
Now we would still survive and people could survive that and have prepared themselves
for such a thing.
You start talking about nuclear war, you've got a completely different scenario where
we don't know what a nuclear war's impact would have on the planet.
I believe it was Albert Einstein that once said, "World War III will be fought with
nukes.
World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
I'm paraphrasing, but the message is pretty clear there.
And when you're dealing with nuclear plants that could fissure and could collapse, and
then the calamities that could follow from that.
So I mean, I'm more concerned about a World War III situation than anything else right
now.
I'm concerned that the global elites are so desperate that they might drop a nuke to just
completely change the focus and attention and the narrative.
That's my concern, and they're desperate right now to try to defeat Putin.
And so the world as we know it, though, could end in many different ways.
And you know what?
In many ways, that might be a good thing.
And that's a sad thing to think.
But you know, the world as we know it is extremely corrupt.
And so maybe this is part of God's plan, sadly, is that we've become so decadent, we've become
so selfish, we've become so evil in so many ways, but the meek will inherit the earth.
And we're going to have to go through this great trial that because of all the blood
sacrifice to the innocent and the abortion on this land, and all around the planet and
the wars and the bloodshed, you know, maybe God has his own way of sorting these things
out and because we didn't stand up and do enough to protect the innocent, we're going
to have to, we're going to have to suffer along with the evil doers.
I have hope for the future.
I don't, I don't believe, I don't believe I see the end of the world.
I do think there's going to be some tough times.
I don't think we've gone through the worst of it yet.
And I do think that some parts of this planet are probably going to experience a living hell,
even.
If not, many already have.
It just doesn't get talked about what happens in Yemen and what happens in Damascus when
they get bombed.
So I don't think we experience the apocalypse, as you may be referring to in the Bible.
I don't think we see the end times that the Bible talks about.
But if there is going to be any sort of an Antichrist, I think it would probably come
in the form of an AI, or at least that's what will be told, is it's AI, but it'll just
be some system of control that the same secret elites are running and just telling you it's
an artificial intelligence or some sort of organic artificial intelligence when it's
really just them plugging in algorithms into a computer.
But I don't know, I think we get through this.
I think it's going to be rough.
I don't think we've seen the worst of it, but I do think we get through this.
I don't think we see the end of the world as we know it.
And I think our adult years, I'm in my 30s now.
I guess I'm already an adult.
But I think my elder adult years, I do believe we're going to see a prosperous planet again.
I do believe we're going to see a prosperous America again.
And I think the trials that we're about to go through are going to also lead to tribulations
and reminders of what we as a people need to hold near and dear to our hearts.
So the potential is certainly there.
That's something I think about and talk about a lot, unfortunately, but even though I know
we're about to go through some hard times in the next year or two, I do have hope for
the future.
I don't think we see the end of the world as we know it, at least as far as no longer
any form of functioning civilization for humanity.
I think we will be able to preserve and persevere.
Well, you know, I do believe that there'll be a physical, you know, human Antichrist
that's going to come.
I'm not saying it's going to happen right now or with even another war because at World
War II, everybody thought Hitler is the Antichrist and this is the end of the world.
And so I do think that we're not going to know exactly when it's happening until it's
made very obvious and the Antichrist is revealed as the scripture does indicate.
But you know, of course, the Bible does say for Christians, we're going to always go
through tribulation and persecution.
When you look at again, if you're not living in America, there's lots of horrible places
to live and being Christian, being China, being in the Middle East, being in all kinds
of different areas, you know, you can't even have a Bible, you'll be persecuted.
And so of course, for those individuals, you know, their hope is the fact that they if
they believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, they're saved, and they're going to go to heaven,
even though it's kind of like you described hell on earth for those individuals, where
they're living.
In America, we've been shielded from so much persecution for so long, we don't even know
what persecution really is yet, we're starting to kind of wake up and see those ramifications.
But I do think that we need as a nation, a spiritual revival, we need people to get back
into the Bible and go into church, or there is no hope for America even staving off the
current regime.
So you know, I, I know that there's a lot of bad churches out there, and I'm against
a lot of churches personally, but I do think there are good churches out there.
You know, from your perspective, you know, do you think that there's still some good
churches out there?
I mean, I know that you said you're a Christian.
Yeah, I mean, I will say there is a revival happening right now.
You've got the Great Awakening America, the Great Awakening tour that I've been featured
on a couple times, that's very much a Christian revival.
And then you have a literal revival happening at a church in Kentucky.
And then I think a couple other revivals where they've been doing like 48-hour services,
72-hour services, never-ending services.
But you know, I haven't been a loyal church attendee for some time.
And here in Austin, pretty much every church is woke.
And then this Sunday, I went to YouTube and I plugged in, you know, live church services,
live church sermon.
And so I was going to have a little just, you know, like be in church at my house while
I'm making breakfast.
And I went through about five different live streams on YouTube and every single one of
them was just woke leftist BS.
And so it's hard to really even find a church.
It kind of just made me lose any any hope or desire to find a church.
But I've met a lot of great pastors.
I know that there are a lot of great churches that are growing out there.
And so there's a split, I think you might say right now in the real Christian church
and the the woke Topia front groups operating as churches, which are just all around here
in Texas.
I mean, it's everywhere.
It's tough and a good church.
I've heard of a couples, but there's no doubt that split is happening.
But the revival is happening as well.
You know, there's always the yin and yang effect.
And so as as the devil becomes more apparent and gains momentum, so does so does God.
So does Jesus Christ.
And so I'm seeing that in real time right now.
Well, again, thanks so much for your perspective.
I know an Austin church there is is rough.
There's not there's not really very many good churches in Austin specifically.
You know, and I hope that, you know, you'll at least consider that I think there is definitely
some good churches out there.
Our church is definitely standing for the gospel.
And people need to watch, you know, the Byway to Heaven video and to get saved.
It's very easy to be saved.
All you have to do is believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and accept his free gift of
salvation and you'd be saved.
And I hope that, you know, maybe you'll check out that video.
You could check out our church stuff.
Maybe we could do another podcast sometime.
And we really appreciate you coming on here and giving us your perspective.
And you know, just being someone that cares about the truth.
It's hard to find young men today that aren't apathetic and just addicted to video games
and simping and everything else out there.
It's nice to find some men out there that have some courage, are willing to stand for
the truth, willing to fight and put it all on the line in some cases.
And so do you have any online media, social media that we can?
You said Getter, can you give us some plugs to where we can find you?
Sure.
I got a Getter account at all I do is Owen.
You can follow me on rumble, rumble.com/Owen.
But the biggest place to get me is going to be band.video, that's B-A-N-N-E-D dot video.
And that's the show I host live at Infowars every day, the Infowars War Room, 3-6 p.m.
and Sunday Night Live, 6-8 p.m., all Central Times here in Texas.
And so that's the best place to find my content.
I do still do some street stuff, not quite the confrontational stuff I used to get for
obvious reasons discussed earlier.
But we still put all the content up there and I'm grateful to have that platform.
And I'm grateful to have your guys' platform here as well, it's a pleasure to be back
on with you.
Well, God bless you.
You have a great night.
We want to respect your time and look forward to future conversations.
So have a good night.
So, I mean, that was a great interview.
It's great to have someone like Owen come on the show and give us his perspective.
Obviously, we have the Baptist bias over here, but it's nice to still get people on the
show that have a different viewpoint, look at the situation from their perspective, hear
what he has to say or what he thinks so that we can be challenged on our viewpoints.
What do you think about that?
Well, we obviously recognize it's a spiritual warfare and that in order to make an impact
today, we have to do it through the Word of God, giving the gospel, living a righteous
Christian life and putting God first, but it's also, I think, beneficial to get the
perspective of somebody that maybe is more involved in a political fight and get their
viewpoint and see if we can actually help them to see that there actually is a spiritual
component here as well that is a lot more important.
And I think also it helps to reach that individual's audience.
And we hope that if you're joining us for the first time and you're a fan of Owen Schreuer,
if you're joining us for the first time and you're a fan of InfoWars.com, that you would
check out Steadfast Baptist Church on YouTube, that you would check out the preaching from
Pastor Jonathan Shelley. He's not going to say this about himself, but I will. He's a
dynamic preacher. He loves the Lord and he loves the truth. And I feel like you're missing
out if you're not listening to his preaching on a regular basis. But we invite you to join
us and we invite you to check out the Bible Way to Heaven. We invite you to live for Christ.
And you know, we talked about a lot of different things that sound depressing. We've talked
a lot about different things that make it appear as if there is no hope, but there is
hope, but it's found through the Lord Jesus Christ. It's found through the gospel. It's
found through eternal life. And when you get saved, you have that peace that passes all
understanding. You're kind of like that dog in the meme that says, "You know what? Even
though the fire is raging around us, this is fine because we have the Lord. We're on
the winning side already. And if God be for us, who can be against us?" the Bible says.
And so I would invite you to do that. But I really enjoyed this interview. It was intriguing
to get Owen's perspective on the world and also his perspective when it comes to confronting
these psychotic freaks that he's done, that he has, you know, obviously that he's confronted,
I should say, on multiple occasions. And the fact, Pastor Shelley, that he admitted, "Hey,
I don't think there is hope for these people." Yeah, obviously, you know, there are some
people that just hate the truth. They hate God. They hate the Lord Jesus Christ. And
the Bible calls them reprobate. And they're never going to be saved. They just always
resist the truth. But if you're out there and you like Infowars, you watch Owen, you
watch Alex, you watch all these people, one thing that can happen is you can get discouraged
because they really unveil a lot of the evil that's in our world. They really kind of peel
back a lot of layers and show a lot of the horrible things that are going on. And I like
the fact that Owen has hope and he still encourages himself. But really, you know, you have to
get encouragement from the Lord Jesus Christ and from the Word of God. And the only way
you're going to have that hope is if you get saved. The Bible makes it clear getting saved
is easy. It's simple. It's a free gift. It's a one-time trusting in the Lord Jesus Christ,
his death, birth and resurrection that saves you. And like we mentioned and plugged before,
you need to watch, you know, our By the Way to Heaven video. It's really simple to be saved.
It only takes a few minutes to understand what the Bible teaches about it, but it is a free gift.
And once you're saved and you know you're on your way to heaven, it kind of, it takes away a lot of
the fear and the anxiety of worrying about this world because you know at the end of the day,
you're going to go to heaven. And of course, God doesn't really want us to fail or fear anything
but Him. He wants us to only fear the Lord and realize He's still in control. You know,
I talked about that hierarchy. We have the Democrats, the globalists, we have the devil,
but really you have to understand above all of that, God is still on His throne. God's still in
control and He's going to allow, you know, perhaps persecution and tribulation, these things. But the
Bible talks about people making it all the way through the worst tribulation and persecution in
the Bible and being raptured, you know, before God pours out His ultimate wrath on this earth. And so
being saved and having the Holy Spirit inside of you is going to be a comforter onto you during
tribulation, during difficulty. And, you know, just for us in America, it's hard to have the
right perspective because, you know, we've lived such a blessed and lavish life. But people in China
and Russia and Ukraine, I mean, imagine being a Christian in Ukraine right now. I mean, that's
got to be crazy. Even being in Russia, I know Russia, obviously Putin is Orthodox, so he doesn't
think that two plus two equals five, but even them, they're not saved. You know, the Orthodox
church is not giving the right gospel. The Catholic church is not giving the right gospel.
In fact, most churches are not giving the right gospel. You know, it's very few. And that's why
we have the Baptist bias because, you know, outside of the outside of the Baptist is very
few churches preaching salvation by faith. Is that what you find? Of course it's a minority
and it's an even smaller minority that's ripping face on sin. It's an even smaller minority that's
willing to stand up to the woke psychotic left wing basket case agenda that we talked about
here on the podcast. And one thing I wanted to know just in relation to that, there are several
videos where Owen Schreuer will walk up to some of these left wing basket cases and he'll say
something like, "Look, you know, I just think that we need to find common ground. We need to come
together as Americans." Some of his older videos from a few years ago where he would say things
like that and they just respond with like, "F you foaming at the mouth. I hate you. Get the hell out
of here. F-A-B-D-E-F-G." Every cuss word you can think of responding with the most vitriol that they
possibly can. And that's because there are certain people out there who are children of the devil
and are implacable, who cannot get saved. But for those in the middle, those who haven't made a
decision yet, we're after them. And we hope that this podcast, if you do find yourself in the middle,
will enable you to make the decision for Christ. Yeah. And you know, I like reaching out to
different people like Owen and some of these other individuals and trying to get their perspective
and hopefully, God willing, all these people be saved. You know, I don't think Tucker is saved
because he's Episcopalian, but man, I just like Tucker. And I know that he's not perfect and he
has- Carlson? Yeah, Tucker Carlson. I really like Tucker Carlson. I like James O'Keefe.
I like some of these individuals. Even the Babylon Bee, I like a lot of their articles,
but I don't even know what they believe exactly as far as salvation. And you know, there's a lot of
podcasts out there. There's a lot of shows you could watch. And I like a lot of these people,
but the thing that was a little bit indifferent for me is the fact that a lot of them weren't
saved. They didn't have the right gospel. And that's why we did the show, is because we want
to be able to talk about current events. We want to talk about these topics. We want to bring cool
guests on like Owen. But then at the end of the day, we want to have the right gospel, the right
Bible, using the King James Bible. And we put a new documentary out there called The Preserved
Bible, great film talking about why to use a King James Bible. And of course, the deterioration of
Christianity in this country is why we're seeing all of this crazy stuff. It's why we're seeing
all the trans stuff. It's why we're seeing these leftist crazies. It's why we're seeing the breakdown
at every level of society is because we've gotten away from the Bible. And we need people to get
saved. And we need people to not only get saved, but get plugged into church. You know, he's down
on church. And look, I get it in Austin. I mean, could you blame him? Austin's bad. I visited there
on vacation and it just infuriated me. It pissed you off. It's definitely gone to the devil.
Sodomites everywhere. I mean, it's not, I venture to say it's not far behind San Francisco if they're
not virtually equivalent. And it's sad to say it's in Texas, but you know, there are still good
churches. There are members of our church that live in Austin. They'll drive up and come to our
church even though it's a few hours away. And so even if you are in an area that doesn't necessarily
have the greatest church, I mean, getting into church, reading the Bible is going to change your
life. And actually that's going to change America. The Bible tells us that we're supposed to be salt
and you know, the salt is what preserves a nation. It preserves a country. I think that's why America's
had so much blessing and we need people to be salt. You know, we can't do it by ourselves.
You know, we need others and we need to reach out and we need to garner more people into our
movement. We need to get the gospel out there, share our gospel videos and to share our films,
deserve Bible and to share our podcasts because while we have this window open still, while we
have a little bit of time where they haven't shut ever you are down and they haven't shut
every YouTube channel down. I mean, you know, we need people to get diligent and vigilant about
sharing the right kind of information, the Christian information, the gospel and the Bible.
I know that you've had podcasts in the past, but you know, I think that this show is an important
show to reach people. You know, what is your perspective on the Baptist bias? Like what,
what motivated you want to do this podcast? Well, because of the fact that it's an opportunity
to reach those who may not already be familiar with the new IFB, may not already be familiar with
your preaching and the preaching of some of our friends. And it's the most important podcast
that I've ever been a part of because of the fact that we're looking at issues through the
lenses of scripture. And I want to respond to something you said. It's a famous verse in the
Bible, in 2 Chronicles chapter 7, verse 14, "If my people, which are called by my name,
shall humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways,
then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land." If you want
America to be healed, if you want to potentially turn the tide in this country and see an
actual revival nationally, it's going to happen only when Christians decide that they want to
take the Bible seriously, that they want to take their Christian life seriously, that they want to
go to church, follow the man of God, get plugged in and do great works for the Lord. Amen. And of
course, you know, Steadfast Baptist Church is not the only church in the world that's doing things
for God. We've got, you know, a great church in Houston, Pure Words Baptist Church. Steadfast
actually has a church plant in the Oklahoma City area. So if you're in the Oklahoma City area,
you need to get into the Steadfast Baptist Church there. Also, we have a lot of friends
of some great churches, Faith Word Baptist Church in Phoenix, Arizona. We have First Works Baptist
Church in, it's not El Monte anymore, it's in Orange County. Anaheim. Yeah, Anaheim. Anaheim,
California. And then we have Verity Baptist Church in the Sacramento area. We have Holdfast
Baptist Church in the San... Fresno. Or the Fresno area, yes. Fresno, California. Pastor Jared
Pizarnsky. We have our friend Pastor Aaron Thompson in Vancouver, Washington. And he's got a lot of
church plants going. He's got one in the UK. He has one in North there in Canada. He has one in
Spokane, Washington. And so, you know, if you're in any of these areas, you need to reach out.
Faithful Work Baptist Church in Tucson, Arizona. Oh, you're right. We don't want to forget about
Corbin Russell. Deacon Corbin Russell. Oh, man. Brother Russell is a great guy. We have Pastor
David Berzins in Atlanta, Georgia, and we... I want to make sure we mention all of our friends.
Did you talk about him? Did you already mention him?
Yeah. We have Pastor Anderson. But, you know, and again, even if you didn't hear a church,
you're interested, email us, you know, email us, contact us, put in a message. We'd love for you
guys to get plugged into church. And of course, tune into the podcast. It's every Tuesday, 8 p.m.
We've got some other guests that we're, you know, hoping to get some other cool guests on the show.
We're also planning on doing some unique things with our show.
We have some cool topics that are going to be coming up. If you want to check it out live,
we're going to be trying to take callers probably in our next show.
Also, you can always put in the chat. We started streaming on Rumble as well.
And if, you know, if you checked out the show, make sure to subscribe. It helps us
with everything, just having more subscribers. And we'd love to continue to grow with our audience
so that we can just reach more people for the gospel, for Christ, you know, to get people saved.
Well, I think, you know, the show is great. I think we just go ahead and end it on the high note.
It was suggested to me that we play our gospel video when we're done. So we're going to play it
right when we're done. You need to check it out, even if you don't have time, check it out later,
how to get saved. But make sure to check it out on any kind of podcast platform. We got Spotify,
Podbean, you know, all these crazy things. Give us all of our platforms here.
We're on Apple Podcasts. We're on Spotify. We're on the Stitcher radio app. We're on Google Podcasts.
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I don't know why I had a brain aneurysm, but I forgot that I'm even preaching here. But I
need to mention Shield of Faith, Baptist Church in Boise, Idaho. I'm going to be preaching there
this Sunday. You need to go there. Pastor Joe Jones, such a great guy. In the chat,
they've mentioned some other areas, Mountain Baptist Church in Virginia, and there's definitely
a lot of other great churches out there. It's in West Virginia specifically. So I know that
there's other great churches out there. You need to get into an independent fundamental Baptist
Church, King James only, Salvation by Faith. Well, that's pretty much going to do it for us
this evening. Thanks for tuning in. Ben, sign us out. That's it for the show. We thank you so much
for your support. Thank you for tuning in. Again, it's Tuesday nights. It's 8 p.m. Central time. Be
back again next week for another edition of The Baptist Bias. And until then, for Pastor Jonathan
Shelley, this is Ben Naim signing off. We'll talk to you guys again after a while. Thank you for
watching our film on the Preserved Bible. The most important question you could ever be asked
is if you were to die today, are you 100% sure that you go to heaven? The Bible gives a clear
answer that you can know 100% sure. The Bible tells us that we've all sinned and come short
of the glory of God. The Bible also teaches that there's a punishment for our sin. In Romans 623,
the Bible says, "For the wages of sin is death." That death is not just physical, but it's also
spiritual. And it means that when people die, they could go to one of two places, heaven or hell.
The Bible tells us that we actually all deserve to go to hell. The Bible says that all liars
shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone. Everyone can admit that
they've told at least one lie. And in fact, we've sinned in many different ways if we look at all
of the scripture. Therefore, it's important to realize we need the Savior. And the Bible tells
us that God loves us and wants us to be saved. The Bible tells us in Romans 5-8, "But God commended
his love toward us, and that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." God sacrificially
sent his Son, Jesus Christ, to this earth to take the penalty and punishment that we deserve. The
Bible tells us that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that he came down from heaven, was born of a
virgin, and became a man. Jesus Christ was God manifest in the flesh. And while he lived on this
earth, he did many miracles proving he was the Son of God. However, the Jews did not believe that
Jesus Christ was the Son of God and they ultimately delivered him to the Romans to be crucified.
The Bible says when Jesus Christ was crucified, he bare our sins in his own body on the tree.
And the Bible makes it very clear that Jesus Christ was the propitiation for our sins.
He paid for all sin, past, present, and future. When Jesus Christ was dead, they put his body in
a tomb, but his soul descended down into hell. But it was not left in hell, neither did his
body see corruption. The Bible tells us that his soul returned to his body, and he rose from the
dead. He walked out of the tomb, and the Bible describes this as the gospel, the death, burial,
and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Therefore, the question is, what must I do to be saved?
Well, in Acts chapter 16, there's a man that asked that question. He asked Paul and Silas,
"Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" And they said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ,
and thou shalt be saved." The Bible makes it clear the only thing necessary for salvation is
to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. Now, what that means is ultimately that you're putting all
of your trust, that Jesus Christ's death, burial, and resurrection paid for all of your sins.
Many people today are unfortunately trusting in their good works. They're trusting the fact
that they go to church, that they've turned over a new leaf, that they live a good life. But the
Bible makes it abundantly clear that you must take the trust that you have in yourself and your
religion and your church attendance and the changed life that you have and put all of your
faith in what Jesus Christ already did for you. That is what true salvation is. Simply acknowledging
Jesus is real or believing in faith plus your good works will not result in salvation. You must
change your mind and put a hundred percent faith in Christ. The Bible tells us in John 3 16 for
God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him
should not perish but have everlasting life. The moment one trusts Christ they become a child of
God and are given eternal life. The Bible says but as many as received him to them gave him power
to become the sons of God even of them that believe on his name. Salvation is a moment in
time just like birth and once you become someone's child you're forever their child. Once you become
God's son you're forever his son. The moment someone trusts Christ and puts a hundred percent
of their faith in Jesus Christ death, burial and resurrection they are forever his son and no matter
how good or bad a son they are they will never go to hell because they've been saved from all of
their sins. Whereas many people still believe in the fact that they must be a good person, go to
church and follow all of God's commandments to be saved, they're ultimately not trusting in Christ's
sacrifice, they're trusting in themselves. The Bible tells us in Ephesians 2, 8, 9, "For by grace
are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works,
lest any man should boast." If we're trusting in ourselves, we're not saved. We must one time
humbly accept Christ's free gift and put all of our faith in Jesus Christ. That is the moment
of salvation. The Bible says, "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life
through Jesus Christ our Lord." If you see clearly how the Bible tells us that salvation is a free
gift, that is just by faith in Jesus Christ. The Bible tells us how to believe in Him. In Romans 10,
9, and 10 the Bible says that, "If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt
believe in thine heart that God hath raised them from the dead, thou shalt be saved." If you actually
have changed your mind today and you want to put 100% faith in Jesus Christ, not in your good works,
not in your good efforts, let me help you word a simple prayer and tell Christ that you're trusting
in him alone and accept his free gift. Pray this prayer wherever you're at. "Your heavenly father,
I know that I'm a sinner and I deserve to go to hell, but I believe that you sent your son,
Jesus Christ, to die on the cross for all my sins, who was buried and rose again. Please save me
and give me eternal life. I'm only trusting in Jesus Christ, not myself. In Jesus name I pray,
Amen." If you meant that prayer in your heart and you put 100% of your faith in Jesus Christ,
the Bible says you can know that you're saved. If you got saved today, or even if you've already
been saved, you need to get plugged into a Bible believing church which uses the King James Bible,
the preserved Bible, and you need to read it every single day.