How's it going, everybody?
We're doing a special stream today where we're doing a Spaces on X, and we're going to be
talking about the Bible's influence.
It might take us just a few minutes here to get set up on our Spaces, but you can also
check it out on the Baptist Bias at Rumble.
Ian, how you doing?
Is it just me, or I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but I don't hear anybody or anything.
Right, there we go.
Should have everybody on there.
I'm going to get the band pastor up here.
Can I get a thumbs up from everybody?
Is the mic coming in okay?
Now it is.
Great, great, great, great.
Let's see.
While we're waiting for band pastor, we'll just get some folks up here and see how everybody's
been joining in to co-host with us, which would be wonderful.
There we go.
Got the pastor up here.
Real quick, Silverman and Adam, since both of you guys have just requested a mic right
off the bat, just wanted to check in with you and make sure you're excited for this
space here.
We're going to talk about the Bible and its implications on kind of culture, both past
and present.
So, excited for that, but any questions or topics that you wanted to make sure that we
dug into when we were discussing this?
Oh, I'm just here to see what band pastor has to say, you know.
I like learning about this stuff, so I'm sure it's interesting.
I will certainly presume so.
And I'm really excited, I mean, this individual was a huge impact, huge reach, very, very
large voice in this space.
Dominic, who we usually have as a co-host, he had actually made the recommendation.
And it was one that I was really excited about, and reason being, I first got connected to
band pastor for anybody that was not in this space.
In the conversation with Dustin Nemos, who has some very controversial biblical takes,
some of them I find very interesting, especially about the Nephilim and other subjects, they
almost read like mythology, things like the Clash of the Titans, which he actually thinks
is somewhat referenced in some of these historical teachings of the Bible, or at least alluded
to.
And so I find some of his takes very interesting.
Band pastor had some slightly different ones.
We're not here to compare and contrast, but it was really nice to hear the two of them
going back and forth, and like we always see in these spaces, doing so in a way that was
respectful of one another.
It was humble in the sense that these two individuals were saying, "Here's what I think."
They weren't at each other's throats, and none of their comments were aimed at taking
one another down.
And I think it's really important that we do that, especially when it comes to religion,
because this is a subject that, you know, some people have a very literal take, others
have a very one that's a little bit more figurative thinking of these things as parables
and myths and life lessons rather than as a literal teaching of events.
Dustin has a different take on it, but what I love is that in all of these spaces, everybody's
able to recognize that this is a personal journey and to not go at one another.
So really excited for BAM Pastor here.
What we'll probably be doing, like we normally do, we'll probably have about a 45 to 60
minute discussion here with Pastor.
We'll let him cover some of his topics, he'll of course introduce himself.
At the end, like we always do, we'll open it up to a Q&A and we'll kind of see where
we land.
So with that being said, Pastor, do you want to give maybe a little bit of a self-introduction?
Talk a little bit about your religious heritage as an individual, maybe your upbringing or
how you got to where you are right now.
And then just a little bit about your current situation.
You're very, very highly regarded.
Dominic had wonderful things to say, so really excited to learn from you here today.
Yeah.
Thanks so much for the introduction and having me on the show.
Can you hear me okay?
Can they hear me?
You're coming in loud and clear.
Okay.
Great.
Just double-checking.
Just to start-
Yeah.
I can hear you just fine.
Okay.
Great.
Just to start out, I was going to say I'm actually streaming this on our Baptist Bias
Channel as well, so if people want to check out, because I have a lot of books with me
today and I just wanted to at least show them on the screen here and there, but it's great
to be on The Spaces.
You guys are killing it and I really appreciate Dominic for connecting me with some of you
guys and getting an opportunity to speak in some of these spaces.
Honestly, The Spaces is really hot right now and I really love it and I've heard a lot
of good things in some of these spaces but I also hear some things that are just very
clearly inaccurate when it comes to historical fact and then additionally the interpretation
of those things.
I could cherry pick and point out a lot of things that I strongly disagree with but I
do pastor a church in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, Steadfast Baptist Church, I actually
pastor another church, Pure Words Baptist Church in Houston, Texas and really I grew
up Christian, grew up in the non-denominational charismatic movement and it was just kind
of what I knew and kind of becoming a young adult and actually researching the Bible and
what I believed, I ended up realizing that my church was wrong on a lot of different
things and so I ended up watching a lot of people online and actually just started reading
the Bible for myself and realizing that many of the Bibles say different things and I ended
up changing and becoming King James only so I only use the King James Bible and recognizing
that it's a superior translation to all the other English translations and I ended up
moving to Faithward Baptist Church in 2016 where Pastor Steven Anderson is a pastor there.
He was really popular on YouTube at one point until he got banned, made a lot of great documentaries
marching to Zion, New World Bible versions, after the tribulation, he's done other projects
as well, and I went there, trained with him to be a pastor, ended up starting pastoring
in 2018, and now we've had several church plants, we have a church plant in Jacksonville,
we have a church plant in Oklahoma City, and those are hopefully going to all be having
their own pastors and ordained, and I'll just be only focused here on the DFW church that
I have right now, but our church, it's a humble church, great people here, but we've gotten
a lot of attention, and I guess in some ways I'm kind of infamous, but a lot of times our
preaching on the issue of homosexuality has gone really viral at times.
I think I've never been on TikTok, but just people taking clips of my preaching and putting
it on TikTok had amassed like over 2 billion views in just a short period of time, and
we've gotten, I don't know, probably 10,000 voicemails, emails.
Our church has been protesting for three years straight.
I've been evicted, I've been sued, we've had all of our money stolen, I've been banned
on almost every single platform.
This is probably like my seventh Twitter account, and so it's just kind of a crazy wild ride.
But I love history, I love the Bible.
We've made a couple of documentaries of ourselves, we've made The Sodomite Deception, we made
the LGBT Terrace, and we've made the Preserve Bible film, and the Preserve Bible film would
be a great documentary if people are interested in this subject because we talk about the
Bible.
You know, we went in great detail to explain kind of where the Bible came from, why use
a King James Bible, and a lot of those details.
And so if someone's ignorant of the history of the Bible and where it came from or why
we have an English Bible, that documentary is going to really explain in great detail
with the receipts.
We had great interviews.
I highly recommend the film.
It's kind of frustrating because I can't put anything on YouTube anymore.
We uploaded the film on YouTube and it got like 50,000 views in just like a week or two.
But then they banned my account and I can't do any.
I can't even use YouTube.
It's so funny.
Like if you just try to go to YouTube with my account, it'll just say you're not allowed
to use this app.
And so, you know, we can't do any credit card processing.
I can't use Airbnb.
I can't use Facebook.
I can't use like only almost any platform, but praise God for rumble.
Praise God for, you know, at least right now Twitter is allowing me to have an account
still for this moment.
Sometimes it ebbs and flows.
I know a lot of people have lost their ex accounts in the last few weeks and months.
And it's kind of crazy right now.
It's kind of crazy as far as censorship is going.
The internet has changed dramatically in the last five years.
And there's a lot of bad information out there, but I'm really excited to have this discussion.
That's kind of maybe a little bit longer intro of who I am, where I came from.
But I appreciate you bringing me in on the space and having this discussion.
Is there something else you wanted to bring up, Ian, before I kind of get started on maybe
talking about some of the history of the Bible?
Yeah.
Well, real quick, one thing I would ask Machiavelli or Silvermane, somebody that's got a mic,
are you getting kind of cut out audio from band pastor from time to time or is that just
on my end?
Or do you think it's just on your end, Brother, because I'm getting him loud and clear?
Yeah, he's coming in just fine, but it could be my phone too.
No, I was just getting blips where it was just kind of cutting out for a second or two.
So what I'll probably do, I'll just let it keep running, hopefully it starts to work
a little bit clearer, but I did get probably 95% of that.
I wanted to make sure for everybody else that was listening, it wasn't a similar issue,
but I think that was a perfect intro band.
I'm kind of curious, when it comes to your history and some of these blips where you've
been kicked off of these platforms, do you have a sense, before we kind of dive into
some of your takes, do you have a sense on why that might be?
Is there a common theme that you're going after?
I know that, for example, to contrast, I know that Dustin gets similarly kind of kicked
off but he speaks very aggressively on the link between the Nephilim and let's just say
a group that I think he believes and I would certainly say Dado implies kind of has a drastic
overrepresentation and disproportionate amount of control in society.
I know that that's something that he says very boldly and is obviously something that's
a bit of a hot take.
I'm curious if there's a theme that has continuously resulted in some of these suspensions that
you've been going into, is it just religion at large and these big tech players don't
like anybody discussing the Bible or is there some kind of other piece of it that you're
including that you think has been kind of the hot button?
Sure.
That's a great question.
The initial censorship campaign has been mostly against the LGBTQ and what the Bible has to
say about it.
In fact, right now, if you just tweet certain verses of the Bible, you're going to get censored.
It's really kind of two issues.
It's the one that you brought up.
If you mention what the Bible says in Revelation 2.9 or 3.9 about the Jews, then what the Bible
says in that topic, you will get a censorship strike or ban or they'll limit your post.
Or if you quote Leviticus 20.13 from the Bible, it'll get banned as well.
Of course, our church preaches everything in the Bible.
These topics are brought up a lot.
In fact, I heard someone say the Bible might be the most anti-Semitic book in the world
and they might be right in a sense.
Of course, it depends on how you define anti-Semitism, but with the modern definition of just saying
anything even slightly negative about a certain group of people as the definition of anti-Semitism,
then that's true.
Of course, the Bible is not racist.
I wouldn't say that, but just in general, it doesn't have a positive message about the
people who crucified Jesus Christ.
Even our legislation, passing laws about accepting certain definitions of anti-Semitism for certain
government funds, they explicitly said that just quoting sections of the Bible or saying
that the Jews killed Jesus or something is somehow a violation of anti-Semitism.
The Bible is I believe the truth and the devil hates the truth and his minions and so when
you preach on anything that opposes a current culture, it's going to face opposition.
I definitely think there's other things that are being censored.
Don't hear me wrong.
There's plenty of things that are being censored but I believe it's all in correlation to
what the Bible just says and the gospel specifically.
And that's the scary piece, of course, and these are things that we talk about a lot
in some of my spaces, but the parallels between what you just described and the Bolsheviks
of yesterday who mass murdered literally tens of millions of people, a lot of which were
put into the gulags and a lot of that was a result of "anti-Semitism."
And so if you're now saying that religion that over a billion people on the planet align
to is somehow a punishable offense, it's a pretty scary place to be in the world.
And I actually think it might be more than a billion.
What is Christianity in the global population at this point across all of its denominations
and sects?
Is it a billion?
Am I undershooting that number?
Well, if you include Catholics, it's like two billion.
It's the largest group if you include Catholics.
If you kind of split Catholics and maybe what people loosely call Protestants or evangelicals,
it's kind of like a billion on both sides.
So it's definitely a lot as far as that are under that "umbrella."
Of course, within any religion of that size, you have...
Yeah, so you've got a quarter of the planet in there.
Yeah.
Yeah, we have about eight billion, approximately.
Two billion are some level of Christian, and so that's about 25%.
I agree.
And of course, there's Islam's, I think, about a billion, and I think that's the second
largest religion.
Actually, it might even be higher.
I might fact check that Islam is definitely in second place.
And between the two, you're talking well over a third of the global population there, right?
So pretty remarkable to think that a book that is subscribed to or at least respected
by a third of the planet could be deemed as somehow a punishable offense at this point.
Again, like I said, it does kind of ring of yesteryear with the Bolsheviks and some of
the other places that we've seen these types of totalitarian regimes come in that are clearly
anti-religion and it's probably something that we'll talk about a little bit today because
it does seem like there's not only suppression but there's almost an animus towards the religious
culture that a lot of Western values have been founded on for not just the course of
the last couple hundred years in kind of modern American West coupled with Europe but going
back at this point thousands of years.
So really curious for your take and for some of your thoughts and maybe the best way to
think this through if we're going to talk about the Bible and its implications on culture
today is probably how did we get where we are and how has culture kind of influenced
the last maybe 2,000 plus years since the time of Christ.
I know that's going to be a lot to unpack but maybe as a quick breeze, we could kind
of go through if not the entirety of the world since Christ because maybe that's far too
big of an item to chew off but maybe we can think of Western Europe, we did a space the
other day on Christianity and the Roman Empire which is incredibly interesting how that played
into and Professor Moriarty for anybody who doesn't follow him, I'll put this up in
the nest when Pastor starts to speak but he went through how the fall of Rome is often
aligned to the rise of Christianity and what he actually said was no, the rise of Christianity
was a result of the fall of Rome because people were essentially enslaved, about 95% of Rome
at the time were living in essentially either slave-like or otherwise incredibly impoverished
conditions and out of that hopelessness and depression came a desire for Christianity
which then started to thrive across the empire.
And so, I'll be curious kind of to get your quick thoughts, pastor, whether it's ancient
Rome or coming up through, say for example, the Renaissance up to kind of European expansion
in the transit-like efforts which then led to I guess kind of the founding of the American
way of life, is there any piece of that that you want to kind of incorporate into this
talk track when it comes to culture and cultural influences, teachings of Christ, and maybe
give a quick little synopsis on maybe…
Tyon, you're breaking up.
I think you're lagging, brother.
Can you hear me now?
Okay.
I can, yep.
He kind of broke up a little bit there at the end, but I do want to address everything
that he brought up, and I'll start at the very beginning of what I believe and go very
quickly.
But I believe that the earth was created about 6,300 years ago, and that can be evidence
from the scripture where it brings up in Luke chapter number three, it brings a genealogy
from Jesus Christ all the way back to Adam.
If you essentially take the dates of many of the people in the Bible, it actually gives
their ages and when they begat other people and then you can correlate that with a few
other timeline events in the scripture.
You can actually calculate the age of the earth pretty close.
It's about 6308 years approximately and really nothing in modern history or even in the secular
science has any proof or evidence that contradicts that.
Of course, the theory of evolution is going to contrast that but in reality there is no
scientific evidence to contradict that.
The Bible is covering all of human history.
It starts in the beginning and it carries forward to the flood which happened approximately
I think 1600 years after creation.
After the flood you have mankind starting over again which is about 4,000 years, 4,800
years I believe from now.
This is where Noah gets off the ark, his sons repopulate the earth and we have the Tower
Babel event which is where we actually have language itself.
This is about 100 years after the ark and this is really where even modern historians
will say like wow there's this explosion of language and technology at this time about
2500 BC to 2700 BC and it's because of that particular event.
Then you have of course in the Bible it describes the children of Israel's journey into Egypt,
them coming out of Egypt, them taking over the promised land.
Then they have the system of the kings.
You have king Saul first, king David, David's kingdom.
It kind of gives rise to the kingdom of Solomon which was one of the most glorious kingdoms
to ever exist.
A lot of knowledge, a lot of wisdom came from that.
Additionally, you have many prophets throughout this timeline and it kind of leads us into
Christ eventually.
Of course, the Jews are at one point taken to Babylonian captivity for 70 years and they're
brought back.
A lot of scripture describes them being taken in captivity and brought back and a lot of
those passages are then now misinterpreted and twisted into kind of redefining the 1948
modern state of Israel but all the prophecies in the Bible were describing something that
already had happened at that time around maybe 600 BC approximately, somewhere in that timeline.
Then of course is the rebuilding of the temple which leads us into Daniel's 70 weeks which
is an interesting prophecy which leads us unto Christ.
Christ comes, I believe that he was born approximately 6 to 5 BC, there's actually an interesting
study about the star of Bethlehem and Christ was crucified on April 6th of 30 AD.
I actually, you know, the Catholics celebrate Good Friday but I believe if you study the
Bible correctly, he actually was crucified on Thursday.
There is a Thursday on April 6th, 30 AD and of course after the death, there was the burial
of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
He ascended 40 days later, approximately maybe 50 at the day of Pentecost and we have the
disciples going out and evangelizing the world and specifically the Apostle Paul going out
and spreading the gospel message to a pagan world, to a Roman world.
Obviously the Jews were under Roman captivity at that time and the Bible, even at that time
I think some people don't understand and I'm actually, like I said, I'm streaming on
rumble right now so I'm going to pull up a few things on my screen as well while I'm
talking about this but for those of you that are just listening I'm going to just read
a few things here from a couple places of scripture but the Bible actually describes
in the book of Acts chapter 15 it says "For Moses of old time hath in every city them
that preach him, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath day."
So according to the Bible and according to the Apostle Paul he says that in every single
city even in the Roman Empire that the book of Moses was being read and this could be
very easily corroborated by the fact that we have Septuagint and we have the Dezi Scrolls
and we have all these different documents that have been discovered where the language
of the Bible had even been translated and carried forward into the whole world.
At the time of Jeremiah the Bible describes how Jeremiah took the Word of God to the entire
world.
So the world has not been ignorant of the God of the Bible.
I believe he's always been the main figure of history and everybody knows who that is.
That doesn't mean everybody was a Christian or worshipping the God of the Bible or part
of that nation, but that nation has been well understood.
And as the Apostle Paul goes out into this Roman area, of course the vast majority of
people are not under the Jews religion, they're pagan, and he really turns the world upside
down with the gospel.
And in fact, I have another book here that's interesting, it's Fox's Book of Martyrs.
And I highly recommend it if someone's just interested in learning about history, but
this book literally starts with the Apostles, Peter and Matthew and Paul and all of them,
and describes how they were all martyred for the cause of Christ, and then it talks about
all the Roman emperors.
When we talk about Nero as kind of like an initial like persecuting figure of Christianity,
he talks about the second under Domitian, then Trajan, and then it kind of goes through
the history, talks about all kinds of different Christian martyrs throughout human history,
and it really wasn't until Constantine has this supposed vision where he sees like a
cross and basically doesn't make Christianity illegal.
This is around the 300 AD period of time, but the Bible had already been disseminated
throughout the entire world at this point.
By 500 AD, you had about 500 translations of the Bible in different languages, and so
the Bible has just been spread everywhere.
But because of the ecumenical councils of Constantine and the Roman Catholic Church
kind of being formed in that period of time, the Catholic Church starts to gain a lot of
power, especially in Western the world, and of course the Catholic Church seizes a lot
of the control and power politically through these efforts as well.
I kind of want to push back on something you said, something about how like the Roman Empire
fell due to Christianity.
I don't have that perspective at all.
I believe that the Roman Empire fell due to internal corruption and being very evil and
they were being judged.
If you kind of understand like the Caesars had gotten so bad, they're all open pedophiles.
It's hard to even describe the acts that they were doing, but they had little children
that were their subjects that they would molest and do all kinds of horrible things and it
was just open.
They were very degenerate, very corrupt, and it had gotten so bad that the, for lack of
better terminology, but the secret police or the people that guard, the guard of the
Caesars would literally just kill Caesars, take bribes.
They would joke about replacing Caesars and because they had such a vast geographic expansion,
they really just fell due to ineptness, corruptness.
The barbarians of those times were able to invade certain areas and it's kind of like
mass migration in all of these areas due to corruption and the military's really frustrated
with the empire and so there's just, just due to ineptness and corruptness allowing
mass migration, barbarians are able to take certain parts of the city and eventually just
Rome just falls to its own inherent corruption.
This is every major civilization throughout history.
Whether you look at the Mayans, Aztecs, you actually see really kind of a major escalation
in technology and decadence for a civilization and then once it reaches kind of a pink, it
has a sudden decline and sudden collapse and this is just God's judgment.
And real quick, Ben, on that, I'm just kind of curious, it's God's judgment is maybe
a great way to lead into this question.
Professor Moriarty, one of the things that he was saying was that the Christian growth
was taking place amongst the impoverished, right?
It was the slave class and those that were really just down on their luck for lack of
a better term.
Whereas the reason that they took to Christianity was because according, again, my memory anyway
from the chat with Moriarty, he was saying that the pagan religion and pagan gods were
the gods of the elites who had essentially all of the riches and all of the spoils of
the empire.
Is that safe as kind of a general observation?
If so, how curious that those pagan-worshipping elites were participating in all of these
horrific acts, which actually kind of rings true all the way to the present day with some
of the things taking place on Epstein Island and all of the other insanity of the world.
So is that kind of a reasonable summarization of kind of the elites versus the plebes scenario
where you had paganism versus Christianity and it was the pagan rich versus the Christian
poor?
I mean, is that kind of too gross of a summary or is that pretty much somewhat accurate?
I would say a lot of those things are accurate.
I think it'd be unknowable to know what like the percentages are of the peasantry as far
as their acceptance of paganism versus Christianity.
But generally, according to the Bible, the poor are receptive to Christianity in the
Bible, generally speaking, and the rich are not.
And that is evidenced by anecdotal evidence, historical evidence.
I mean, it's just it's pretty much a pretty clear representation.
I mean, the Bible says that we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against spiritual
wickedness in high places against principalities and powers.
And the Bible describes that essentially almost throughout all of human history, the upper
elite and ruling class is almost all infiltrated by evil, wicked, satanic, God-hating reprobates
and that we're constantly fighting against arguably spiritual wickedness in high places
as the Bible describes it.
And so I don't think there's really much exceptions to this.
I think there's been some figures throughout history that were actually a good leader and
they maybe had some good Christian influence.
But for the vast majority of ruling class today and throughout most of history, this
has always been the case.
And even every institution, whether you look at the Catholic Church, the Greek Orthodox
Church, Islam, I don't care what religion.
At the top, it's usually just very extremely corrupt.
These people are following the devil.
And so, you know, I think that it's definitely true that in Rome, Christianity was spreading,
you know, and not even necessarily true Christianity, but obviously, sects of Christianity and all
kinds of forms and the Catholic Church is kind of dominating.
But by 500 AD, the Catholic Church is a stranglehold on the religious and political system.
And you kind of enter into what's called the Dark Ages.
The Dark Ages is a time when the Catholic Church is not allowing everyday citizens to
read the Bible.
And in fact, because it's in Latin and a lot of people don't always speak Latin or aren't
very educated, the Bible is kind of kept from your average day citizen.
Of course, they don't have printing presses yet.
They don't have the ability to mass print Bibles either.
So just information in general was very low.
Literacy was very low.
Access to the Bible was very difficult to acquire.
And in fact, the Catholic Church had strict laws prohibiting people from owning Bibles,
reading Bibles, teaching Bibles.
You had to be basically part of the church and a bishop in order to have this access.
And so there's always this underground effort of true Christianity to spread that message,
give that to people.
Of course, the Catholic Church had slaughtered many different individuals throughout history,
heretics and people that opposed the Catholic Church because it wasn't just a religion.
It was a political system.
And this led us into some crazy things that happened throughout history as far as the
West is concerned.
But even not just the West, I mean, the Mongolian Empire was greatly impacted by Christianity
and Christianity spread throughout the Mongolian Empire.
So you have Christianity going in lots of different places, even while the West is kind
of our central place where we think about from a historical perspective.
As we kind of journey past the Dark Ages a little bit and we're kind of getting out of
it, what's interesting is around the 1300s, you have a lot of things happening.
People are kind of pushing back on access to the Bible.
The King James Bible is in the 1611 and that's what we use today.
But the first English Bibles were actually much earlier than this.
And one of the first major translations of the Bible, the first English translation,
of course there was like a few chapters or a book here and they're translated, but the
whole Bible is John Wycliffe.
This is 1382 and John Wycliffe is a Catholic priest but he's kind of against the Catholic
Church and he opposes the Catholic Church.
He doesn't want them to restrict access to the Bible to people.
He wants everybody to know the Bible because he says until people understand what the Bible
says, I can't educate them about any subject.
It's like the first subject that people have to even learn to be able to educate on anything.
He translates the Bible.
The Catholic Church opposes him, persecutes him greatly.
He dies a natural death but then they dig up his bones, throw him in the river and say
that he's burning in hell and they basically attack him.
What's also interesting is I have another book with me.
It's called Behind Communism and in this book, in the 14th page, describes how a renaissance
took place in Europe from the 1300s to the 1650.
It also marks how throughout this time period, Jews were actually being evicted and legally
banned from entering a lot of Europe and being part of European areas.
So you kind of have two like major things.
You have Jews being restricted from entering all of these parts of Europe, laws against
them and you have the Bible being read by the common people and being spread everywhere
and you just have a huge renaissance of information, creativity, just anything and everything that
we kind of like glorify from the past is a lot of it's coming from the renaissance era
and it's because of the Bible, it's because of knowledge actually expanding during this
period of time.
The English Bible is then also then translated from other works.
There's a guy named Erasmus who recognized that the Catholic Church had kind of corrupted
the Latin Bible and so he wanted to go back to the Hebrew and the Greek and create kind
of a text based on this.
He creates a Greek New Testament and compiles it together based on the Greek manuscripts
that he's collected from the collapse of the Byzantine Empire.
Based on his work, we basically have all the Bibles that we have today, whether that be
the Luther translation that he made into German, we have the English Bibles, we have the Spanish
Bibles, we have the French Bibles, and people are very ignorant on this subject but I encourage
you to visit a Bible Museum.
There's one in Washington, D.C., there's one in Houston, there are Bible Museums everywhere
and here's the thing, the Bible, we have copies of these Bibles in every language from every
century.
I mean what do you talk about, 1100, 1200, 1300, I mean you want to talk about the 14,
15, 1600, I mean there's Bibles in all these languages and we recognize that hey, if they're
all saying the same thing in one language and this other language is not, then there's
an error here, there's an issue and that's where the Latin is kind of at fault, right?
And so we look at the Greek, we look at the other Bibles in other languages and we're
recognizing there's a problem here, we're going back to the source and there was a movement
to correct the Bible in English based on what's called the Texas Receptus and this is where
we get the famous Tyndale Bible, which was translated by William Tyndale and he's a great
person to study.
He's in Fox's Book of Martyrs, he's in our film, we highlighted him, but this man's brilliant.
His work was 85% exactly verbatim what the King James Bible is today, persecuted by
the Catholic Church on the run, and in fact the King of England also persecuted him.
He ended up dying a martyr's death, his throat was slit, he was burned at the stake and in
his dying breath he said, "Open the eyes of the King."
And the goal was that the King of England would grant for the Bible to actually go out
to the common people and to be worked on.
And so you have people coming in his footsteps, you have the great Bible, the Matthew Bible,
you have the Geneva and you have the bishops, but none of them were dialed in perfectly
and when King James came to the throne, he recognized that there was a division between
the Anglican Church and the Puritans.
And both of them are coming from a "Protestant" direction, but the Protestant Reformation
is kind of mixed with people who want to "reform" the Catholic Church and people who reject
the Catholic Church, say the Catholic Church is just a horrible institution that's completely
wicked and there's no redeeming it.
And then you kind of have a group that's saying, "No, it's decent, but it's got a lot of huge
problems because they're selling indulgences, so let's go ahead and reform it."
And so you have a lot of people focused on the reformers, but you also have Puritans
and people that were completely opposed to the Catholic Church.
These two people were in England diametrically opposed to one another and having a lot of
issues and they felt like if we translated the Bible one more time and get it dialed
in, we can kind of unify the nation with the Puritans, with the Anglicans.
And that was the goal.
That was the goal of the King James Bible was to get an accurate translation and it
would be the final work.
In fact, if you read the translators of the reader in the preface of the King James Bible,
they literally said that they wanted to make one more exact translation of the Holy Scriptures
into the English tongue.
That is the direct quote.
And this is the definitive work.
The King James Bible was the accurate preserved translation of the Bible into English.
And it's been the most influential book.
The King James Bible is the most influential book of all time.
Most read book, most published book, most studied book.
Even today it's still the most influential book.
Most of our English language is being driven by this.
In fact it was so popular and so good, all the other English Bibles went out of print
and eventually it just became the book.
If you study history, many people just literally call the Bible just the book.
It was that famous, it was that well known, it was that understood.
And from the Protestant Reformation, you still have persecution of Christianity from the
Anglican Church and the Catholic Church.
And this is where a lot of people fled to America.
Of course people are fleeing to America for multiple reasons, to not only have religious
liberty but also have maybe a new life, new prosperity.
But most of the desire to come to America was for religious freedom from these institutions.
And they bring a Geneva Bible with them and then shortly after the King James comes and
replaces it.
But the Geneva and the King James are very similar texts.
And the reality is that our nation was founded on the Bible.
I have a document with me, it's called The Laws of Connecticut, an exact reprint of the
original edition of 1673.
And this document is so fascinating.
But and this is something that usually gets me in trouble with people and I'm not going
to necessarily read all of it.
But if you read their capital laws and you just look at it, it's literally just pulling
out all of the capital laws from the Bible and just putting them in print.
And not only that, in the literal margin, it literally has all the Bible references
to all of the laws.
In fact, in this particular document, they even explicitly identify certain Christians
as heretics, the Quakers and the Shakers.
This is what you would think of today as modern Pentecostals that are going around like Benny
Hinn and Kenneth Copeland, people barking like a dog and going, "Whoo!" or whatever.
And really, even back then, these people were identified as heretics.
And you were actually fined if you gave them any money or you were like nice to them, according
to Connecticut law.
But these states of the colonies, these colonies eventually become states, but their laws are
literally just coming from the Bible.
And even if we go into 1776 with the Constitution being signed, then a few years later ratified
by all 13 colonies, the state laws at that time were religious in nature.
And the state laws, like if the state of Pennsylvania literally has a statute that says if you don't
profess faith in Jesus Christ, you cannot hold any political or governmental office position.
So you couldn't be the sheriff, you couldn't be the police, you couldn't have no position
in government.
The same is Rhode Island.
Rhode Island had the exact same statute.
The state of Georgia explicitly said that you could not be Catholic.
It was illegal to be Catholic and no Catholic church was formed in the state of Georgia
until the late 1800s.
And it was really what's interesting about that whole subject is that the context of
Christianity was so well defined in the culture of America that they never really thought
to talk about other religions.
So it's funny.
They like outlaw Catholicism and heretics like Quakers and stuff, but they never addressed
other religions and like specifically like Jews.
And so because they'd never pinned down anything about Jews, like Jews actually infiltrated
Georgia and then eventually allowed the government to kind of change its laws to bring in Catholicism
and bring in other religions and kind of change the whole culture because a lot of the South
is very Baptist in nature.
It's kind of like Baptist versus Protestants in the history of America and the Baptist
kind of won at least initially.
And so you have eventually though, the 14th Amendment, the 14th Amendment comes into play.
And Ben, real quick, before we get to the 14th Amendment, I just want to, what you said
just kind of blew my mind because I've often found myself having disagreements with people
saying, you know, this is a Christian nation, it was founded on Christian principles.
People push back very, very heavily on that.
But what you're saying is that literally at some of the state levels in their founding
documents with their laws, they were more or less just copy-pasting them from the Bible
itself, and that in many states, it was prohibited to have any kind of state official position
if you did not profess your belief, not just in a god, but in particular in Jesus Christ,
and then only as a result of the fact that these states did not reject all religions,
including Jews, did Jews ultimately get into positions of power where they were able to
rewrite those religious laws and to kind of remove them from the requirements to hold
positions?
And is that a fair summarization of what you just said there?
Because if so, that's pretty wild.
Yes, because here's the thing.
I actually went to the University of Texas and I was just doing kind of like a Steven
Crowder bit of like a prove me wrong, change my mind thing.
And I talked to a lot of students there and they're sincerely arguing with me and telling
me that our nation is a secular nation, built on secular principles.
And I couldn't believe what I was hearing, just the gaslighting of American history is
so bad that it actually motivated me to, I'm making a documentary about this, it's called
One Nation Under God.
And we're already in it, we're doing the interviews for the film already.
But I'm going to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that that's just the most fallacious
lie.
And it's crazy the gaslighting that we have in institutions today, even some of the most
prestigious institutions, the University of Texas, these students are so gullible and
ignorant of history that they can't recognize this.
There's no way to ignore the reality that our nation was 100% Christian, founded on
Christian principles.
The 14th Amendment explicitly is to de-Christianize the nation in a sense.
And you know, even today in the state of Texas, this is as funny as I brought up to this young
man, I said, "Look, in the state of Texas right now, in 2024, just read the opening
line of the Texas State Constitution."
You know what it says in the Texas State Constitution, the opening line, "Humbly invoking the blessing
of Almighty God."
How is that the opening line of the Texas State Constitution?
And then you're going to argue with me that we're a secular nation.
Like, and this is a young man who's a Hindu from India, of course, I don't necessarily
expect him to have been raised here and understanding American heritage, but he's being
lied to in such an extreme way at these universities that, you know, people are literally not understanding
why America is the way that it is.
When the liberals and the Democrats say we're not going back, you know what they're saying?
We're not going back to the Bible.
We're not going back to Christian heritage.
That's what they're really saying.
And that's what America is.
You look at all of the state legislation, you look at all state laws, it's only understood
by the Bible.
The Bible was a document used in the court of law as reference.
The Supreme Court is quoting and citing the Bible as the authority for our laws.
There's no way to misunderstand this if anybody even takes five seconds to study history.
Even the left knows this because I've seen plenty of articles where they literally say,
"Yeah, the death penalty was applied to homosexuality for the 1600s, 1700s, 1800s in America."
And it wasn't until the late 1800s that it slowly turned into prosecution by life imprisonment
or a long prison sentence.
And this is what's crazy and blow a lot of people's mind, but until 2003, homosexuality
was a crime in the state of Texas.
I don't think that people realize this, but until Lawrence versus Texas, a Supreme Court
case, and it was about 14 other states approximately that also had similar laws that all were overturned
with this particular legislation, but until 2003, homosexuality was a crime in the state
of Texas.
Just to think about how in 2003, it was a crime, and then only maybe a decade or shortly
thereafter, places like Arlington, Texas, and I live in the Dallas-Forth area, Arlington
is in our area, you have literal police officers being assigned that are called the LGBT liaison
officer.
We've had a rapid denigration of society, a rapid change, and a huge gaslighting of
where our nation was, what it's come to be.
I mean, the 1960s, I think people don't understand, I want to go back to my timeline in a minute,
but the 1960s America was 90% white and 10% black, and the nation was a Christian nation.
There's no way to change that fact of history and slowly over about the next 40 years or
so we have migration efforts to really undermine that, and then in the last 20 years we've
had a mass migration that has really drastically changed this.
But think, we're a 90% white Christian country, and even when I was in college, which wasn't
that long ago, but this is about 2006, in a political science class, I remember our
professor said, "If you're not a professing Christian and white and evangelical and you
have this much money, you'll never be elected president," which of course Barack Obama destroyed
that narrative.
But that's how ingrained our country was, and he didn't believe it, but he didn't understand
the mass migration efforts that were going to happen and I guess how so many elections,
their integrity is not necessarily what we believe it is today.
But of course that was a true statement if we have free and fair elections and election
integrity is upheld.
That would have been the case.
That would have never changed.
But I believe America is being punished generally for having turned away from God, turned away
from the Bible.
But to kind of go back to the narrative, I mean, Christian laws slowly deteriorated over
time.
By the 1800s, a lot of laws had slowly changed and adapted.
The 14th Amendment really had a big impact because it specifically expressed that the
limits of the federal government were now imposed on the state.
And this is really difficult for people to understand, but the First Amendment was originally
penned only in the context of the federal government.
I mean, if you just look at the opening line, it says, "Congress shall make no law."
It has nothing to do with states, it has nothing to do with individuals, it has nothing to
do with social media platforms.
It was simply, if you think about the context, the colonies by themselves are too small and
too in their early parts of development to fight the kingdom of England by themselves.
They needed to form an alliance and form a union and form a coalition, that's why you
have the United States of America, to fight off the British.
And so they join forces, they unite.
But they want to be careful in this uniting and recognize like we need to join together
for military purposes, but that's all we want.
We want a strong state government.
We want a limited federal government.
We don't want the federal government telling us to do because that's what we're fleeing.
We're fleeing the monarchy.
We're fleeing this centralized control of power where you have a small group of people
or one person deciding the fate of everybody.
We want the states and where the local people live to decide these things.
And so they put all these restrictions on the federal government and it was only the
federal government that could make no law concerning religious affairs and these type
of things.
It wasn't till the 14th amendment that that applied to the states.
That's why you literally see state laws mandating faith in Jesus Christ to hold any political
office.
That's why you see states mandating all kinds of overtly religious laws.
I would argue that every law is religious by nature because we're talking about morality,
which is based on your belief system and your belief system has to come from somewhere.
The early settlers of America recognized we are not smart enough to come up with the
best moral laws.
We're going to go back to the great lawgiver Jehovah, which is a direct quote from them,
and we're going to implement what God's system was.
And you know what?
That was a success.
Whether you like the Bible, whether you believe the Bible, you have to recognize that America
was founded on biblical principles and founded on the system of the judges, which is detailed
explicitly in the Old Testament.
And based on that system, we have the success of America and the blessing of America because
it's modeled after the best potential civil government.
UK and Europe had corrupted themselves deeply.
They were not following the Bible's instructions.
They were not doing what it says.
It was not a system of government based on the scripture or on the Bible.
It was a state-run church.
The Bible does not want a state-run church.
But at the same time, it makes sense that our founders should have said, "You know what?
All of these documents that were outlining the Constitution, they're all in the context
of Christianity.
I thought they had just pinned that down."
The culture was so Christian that they could never perceive Jews and Hindus and atheists
and Muslims coming and taking over.
They were like, "Of course that's not going to happen."
They were so focused in on the details of specific types of Christians and Catholics
that they weren't really thinking about some of the broader perspectives.
Now, some of them did understand that atheism was a problem even at that time.
They have several quotes of saying that, "We want to make sure that all these religious
liberties are not to allow atheism to creep into our nation and into our country."
So they very well understood that potential threat.
But our country and our nation was Christian.
The 14th Amendment applies to the states eventually.
States now can no longer mandate some of the Christian laws.
And so then we just keep stacking amendments, and it's like, okay, the 19th Amendment brings
in feminism, which is a Marxist ideology.
And that particular ideology undermines the civilization.
And here's the problem.
When you have a strong Christian nation and people are reading the Bible, they're going
to be very anti-people who worship the religion of Judaism.
And I want to be careful about my terminology.
It's not about an ethnicity.
It's not about a group of people based on their genetic lineage, but it's based on a
group of people of their beliefs.
And the beliefs of Talmudic Judaism is an anti-Christ religion that practices usury,
which is extremely dangerous to any society and civilization.
And usury means interest, the collection of interest.
And again, also that these individuals are going to exercise no morality in an effort
to acquire more fame and wealth and power.
And that is the religion of Judaism, that it's a religion that says whatever you can
do to acquire more wealth and power is acceptable.
And so, you know, that's why there is the JQ, that's why there is this problem where
there's a certain group of people that have an inordinate amount of control and influence
in the world, because they practice a religion that says I will, I'm capable of murdering,
killing, stealing, deceiving, lying, doing anything in my power and ability to gain more
power and wealth.
And that religion is opposed to Christianity, because Christianity says no, you can't lie,
steal, cheat, commit murder, abort babies.
You can't drink the blood of circumcised babies.
You can't do all of these crazy weird things and they kept them at bay.
They pushed them off.
And when Christianity declines, well, that religion thrives.
And so these are kind of a yin and yang.
There are forces that are constantly at war with one another.
And America has been greatly subverted by these people because Christianity has fallen
in a lot of ways.
lot of false prophets, a lot of false teachers, people have gotten away from the King James Bible.
Now we have a litany of translations of the Bible that say all contradictory things. They really
teach a lot of heresy. And we see the fruit of modern Bibles has corrupted our society.
Modern Bibles came into the 1960s. The 1960s ruined America. It means the baby booted generation.
They bring in, they change the demographics of the country. They change the religion of the country.
They changed the Bible of the country. They changed the laws of the country. It was a hippie,
free love sex movement. And the degeneracy follows the World War II, which that narrative is
important. I mean, World War I, World War II, these are very important events. The Federal
Reserve being established. These are very important events. The degeneracy of America
is why we are in the situation we are in today. And people act like the problems of our country
in the past were Christianity. But that was the reason we had the blessing. That was the reason
why we had prosperity and freedom. And I don't care what nation or country you look at in the
world today. The places that have the greatest individual freedom and individual prosperity are
where Christianity is the strongest. And where Christianity is outlawed and is attacked the most,
you have the least amount of individual freedom and individual prosperity. Because the Bible is
clear. Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. It's a direct quote. The Bible says,
"You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." And the Bible is the ultimate truth.
It used to be the textbook of our public education system. It used to be the only authority when it
comes to the court system. If you had a law and it contradicted the Bible, the Bible could overlaw
or overrule many statutes. And it was the Bible that granted us the power and the authority
to have set up government and to set up this country and to set up this nation.
And it was designed to be a nation under God. And it really, that is our heritage. That is our
lineage. And the Bible influenced everything, whether it be language. It's the first book
being printed on the printing press by and large because people want access to the Word of God.
They want the Bible. And the Bible also, I mean, I pulled up this kind of interesting article,
but 11 common phrases you didn't realize came from the Bible. And one of them is by the skin
of your teeth, like escaping by the skin of your teeth, a house divided against itself cannot stand,
a drop in a bucket, behemoth, scapegoat, gird up your loins. That's like pull up your pants,
bite the dust, the letter of the law, the salt of the earth. I mean, so much of our just language
phrases, everything we understand is coming from the Bible. The Bible is the source of all truth.
And it really has stood the test of time. The King James Bible hasn't been altered for 400 years.
And you know, I think that that's what changes people's lives is the King James Bible. If we
want to change America, we have to get people back to the book. And as Ronald Reagan had been
famously said about the King James Bible, he was contrasting with other modern Bible versions. And
he said that the pious drudges would constantly seek to find the Bible not realizing that it had
already been gotten right. And it's a famous line of his that it's already been gotten right.
And instead of arguing about what the Bible really, you know, which version all this stuff,
it's like it's already been settled. People need to get back to the King James Bible. That's what
built this nation. And, you know, it's funny to me to watch all these leftists and liberals and
secular people say that they love America so much. And they hate Christianity. And it's like the
reason why you love America is because of Christianity. And the things that we all hate
about America is because we've abandoned Christianity and abandoned the Bible. And so,
you know, it's really the source of history. You can't understand history without understanding
Bible and Christianity. You can't understand language. You can't understand the political
motivations. You can't understand war. All of the wars are related to these topics specifically.
You can't understand the JQ without the Bible. You can't understand any of these things. It
really is the source of all information. I obviously love the Bible. I'm a preacher of
the Bible. I'm a Baptist pastor. I didn't start out a Baptist pastor, but I'm going to die a
Baptist pastor. Well, not necessarily a pastor, but a Baptist because they're the ones that are
closest to the truth on this issue. Honestly, when you read the Bible, it explains every phenomenon
that we see in the world today. It explains it in great detail. I think that people just don't
know what the Bible says and it's a travesty. I hope that was kind of a brief summary. I want
to look at my notes because I actually made a few notes about some things I wanted to bring up.
I just want to make sure. Yep, it's got the most manuscripts of antiquity. Also, if you look
historically, you know when we talk about history, history is a difficult thing to understand. The
best thing to look is primary sources and if we were to look at primary sources, the most primary
sources we have are old manuscripts of the Bible. Additionally, you know some people get mad about
the idea of Christian nationalism but they're enjoying the benefits of a nation that was
Christian and I do not believe and I do not want America to go back to England and create a state
church. I believe in religious liberty but at the same time we needed to find that all of our laws
and our constitution was pinned with the Bible in mind. In fact, I'll say this, America is not
broken based on its political system. Its political system is correct. It's the people running it.
You know, the system of judges that we have, if we would limit the federal government again
and go back to giving the states the power and county judges and our local judges having that
power and influence they should have had. If we take the power away from the federal government
and, you know, enforce the laws that we have in the land and go back to the lands that we have,
you know, repeal the 19th amendment, repeal the 14th amendment in my opinion, but get rid of these,
you know, add-ons, tack-ons, we would be great, we would be fine. The problem is that it's not a law
issue, it's a culture issue. Because the vast majority of people do not want the Bible and
do not want Christianity, it's going to be almost impossible to roll back the clock and get back
there without first having a great awakening and a revival of Christianity. We need the poor to
accept the gospel again. And maybe that's what America needs is, you know, America is a rich
nation. The vast majority of us are living high on the hog. Most Americans today are living like
kings. And from a historical context, we eat whatever we want, we can go to the grocery store,
we can have unlimited food, bread. We have so many modern conveniences. And so because we live such
a life of delicacy, we're not that interested in the things of God in Christianity. I travel a lot
of places in the world. I've gone to Mexico, Philippines, Bahamas, Jamaica. I've gone to a
lot of different areas. I've talked to a lot of people from all over the world. And the rest of
the world is very receptive to the gospel because they're poor. And unfortunately, America is very
rich and decadent. And we're probably facing an inevitable collapse unless we have a revival.
And so, you know, it's a really important topic to me. The Bible's influence on modern culture,
it's the most important influence. And it's the only thing that'll bring us out of the crisis
that we're headed for. Well, and what's wild about that is it mirrors what Professor Moriarty was
saying about Rome, right? To go back to the beginning of this timeline in some ways,
in that he was saying it was that desperation that led individuals back to, or to initially,
to the Word of Christ and of God. And I think you're exactly right, especially when you think of
all of the modern blessings of the West. And what you said earlier about all of the good things of
the Western way of life are out of the Bible and all the bad are because of an aversion to it.
I thought that was incredibly insightful. And it's the things that are drawing mass migration
into the West, for example. And I don't know the religious ideologies of some of those individuals.
Certainly, I think whether it's one and the same or not, I think it doesn't matter because if you
break down... And maybe this is a strange pivot, but I've always thought of the Western world,
both Europe and America, a lot of these nations are... Because when it comes to migration anyway,
if you think of all of the great nations of being these wonderful vessels out in a very crowded
ocean, and you've got America, which is maybe this great ocean liner, and then you've got some
Central and South American countries around it that are... Let's be real, they're a little bit
more rickety of crafts. But if you have massive amounts of the people that are on some of those
other boats jumping into the water, swimming over to the great ocean liner and climbing onto it,
it seems nice for the people on the ocean liner to say, "Yeah, let's continue picking up people.
That's a good moral nice thing to do." But eventually what happens is you get to a capacity
and the once great ocean liner begins to sink. And now what do you have? Well, you've got an
overflowed, now flooding ocean liner surrounded by some other boats that are rickety and terrible.
And long story short, instead of a rising tide where it's everybody, it's a sinking ocean liner
ruins any prosperity for everyone. And so it's interesting because I think that, you know,
for people, a lot of people take this stance that letting in endless migrants is the moral
righteous thing to do. When in reality, I think all it's doing is bringing down ultimately the
mid to long run standard of living for everyone. Because instead of exporting excellence, what
you're doing is importing poverty. Instead of building up those foreign nations, you're driving
down America. If you look at things like the Communist Manifesto, Marx and Engels were very
clear that the way they needed to construct the world for communism at both a national or
theoretically a global level was to have an equivalent standard of living for everyone.
To quote Margaret Thatcher, loosely anyway, her quote was basically, "Rather than trying to make
the poor richer, you just want to make the rich poorer until everyone's the same." It seems like
the elites of the world today, that's where they're going. I think you're exactly right that
a lot of people are maybe complacent because they've got Netflix beer, the NFL, and some
Hollywood movies to laugh and get excited about and the internet. Because of those luxuries,
everybody thinks everything's fine. When in reality, standard of living, access to healthy
foods, access to valuable education, those things are becoming increasingly out of reach for the
masses. Instead, you get indoctrinated education via Google School and Netflix, which is at the
end of the day, all propaganda that largely runs against Christianity and the Word of God.
I want to use your analogy a little bit and kind of expand on it because I think it's more like a
rowboat. Imagine America's like a rowboat and it has unlimited seats. There's no problem with adding
someone to the rowboat if they're going to row in the same direction that you're headed. The problem
is when you add people into the rowboat that are going to start paddling in a completely different
direction. Migration and immigration, these things can have their place and there's nothing wrong
with the Christian nation bringing in migrants from all over the world. But here's what people
don't understand. The Bible teaches that a house divided cannot stand. When a nation does not have
ideological continuity, it becomes weaker. Now it does not matter demographically. It's not about
skin color, height, any of those things. That has no impact on a nation. What impacts the nation is
ideological continuity. And just to be frank, the world was geographically dispersed to where
when someone had a different skin color, they typically had a different ideology. Like it's
almost a one for one. So when you're importing all of these people into America, the problem is not
the skin color you're importing. The problem is the ideology that's coming with them. And if we had
a Christian country that was based on Christian laws, there'd be nothing wrong with bringing in
the occasional migrants that want to convert or basically adopt the Christian way of life.
The problem is when you're bringing in people that are diametrically opposed to this
and have a completely different world, you can't bring in Hinduism to Christian
nation. You can't bring in Judaism to a Christian nation. You can't bring in even Catholicism
like these things. And again, I'm not against Catholic people. I love Catholics. I have a lot
of friends that are Catholics. I'm saying that the state-run Catholic Church is satanic and opposed
to the Bible. And you can't bring these things in. And America knew that initially. And that's why
it was so strong because America was literally built by migrants and immigrants. And I think
this is where the bastardization of our history gets confusing because people say like, "Oh,
we're built on immigrants and we're built on people fleeing here." Yeah, but they were fleeing
here because they wanted to be a Christian. They were fleeing here because they loved the Bible.
They were fleeing here because they wanted to live in an area where they actually were ruled by the
Bible and ruled by the law of the scripture and not by the Catholic Church, not by Hinduism,
not by Judaism. And so, you know, bringing in people to have the same ideology can strengthen
a nation. Bringing in people that don't, it weakens the nation. And that is why it's so important
to bring in mass migrants into Europe and to America. Because Europe, I mean, let's
take UK for a second. UK has 67 million people approximately. 50 million of them are still white.
Okay. If they have enough time, they will eventually get enough ideological continuity and
they'll say, "Hey, let's examine World War II again and Winston Churchill and all these things
that happen." And they might say like, "Why are we giving so much money to the Middle East again?
Like, why are we doing all these things?" And so when you have a lot of people all coming together
and having the same ideological belief system, then they start becoming a force to reckon with.
But if you just pour in a bunch of Muslims that destroy the culture and destroy that
environment, now they're dealing with that problem and then they're too busy dealing with that issue
to think about anything else because you literally have just degeneracy and filth and rape and
pillaging just on your doorstep. And even in America, we're importing the third world and
bringing in all these degenerates in the last four years. It's designed to just simply weaken
America, weaken Christianity, and to make sure that they don't start asking the wrong questions.
I'm just being honest with you and to bring in a pretext to do all kinds of different things. I
mean, there's a lot of things that you can do with migrants. You could change the voting in America.
Once they change the political system on paper, then we can bring in communism officially.
Right now, we're pretty communist already, but it's not quite as official as they want it.
And with the migrants, you could potentially arm them and create a migrant army that's not going
to be loyal to the constitution, not be a loyal to American freedoms, not have a Christian viewpoint
or worldview, and would potentially go house to house and doing unimaginable things. That's
necessary because right now the American military probably by and large still would not violate the
constitution if given orders. But if you bring in a bunch of the third world and hand them a gun,
you know, you don't know what could happen. We don't know what would really be what their will
power would be accomplished as. And so, you know, all of these things are important and I like to
talk about them and I'm interested in them. But the real goal is if the devil wants to distract
everybody from the gospel, getting saved, believing in Jesus Christ, the Bible makes it clear
salvation is a free gift. It's just by faith in Jesus Christ. And, of course, that's the ultimate
truth, the ultimate red pill. And that's what will actually give you the ability to understand on a
higher level because you have the Holy Spirit come inside of you and he guides you in all truth. You
can understand the Bible in a different way. And so, you know, the reality is that we need,
you know, to get that message out, the gospel message to get people saved and become a Christian.
And that's when they'll be enlightened truly to have another renaissance. You know, I don't know
what's going to happen. I think it's likely we could go into the end times as the Bible describes.
But at the same time, the solution is always to get people to become Christian and get back into
the Bible. That's why UK was so... UK was the world power. Why? Christianity and the King James Bible.
Then, of course, that shifts to America. Why? King James Bible and the Word of God. It's not
a coincidence America is a superpower. I mean, think about it. Why is it... I mean, we were,
you know, having to start over a few hundred years ago. Why isn't that China and all these other
nations that had so much more time, resources, and people on their side? Why did we beat China?
Why did we get so far ahead of Russia? Why did we get so far ahead of all these places? And look,
Russia was Christian, but they were Greek Orthodox. And that is not Protestant Christianity. That is
not evangelical Christianity. And you know, of course, the Bolshevik revolution was a horrible
atrocity, super evil. It's something we all need to learn and read about. But I believe that it's
arguably in some ways, God punishing them for having a false version of Christianity,
because the Greek Orthodox Church just also does not believe the Bible. And I'm sure there's a lot
of innocent people slaughtered. I mean, millions and millions of people slaughtered by the Bolsheviks.
But, you know, if America decides to continue to reject the Bible and promote this false version
of Christianity that we have with people like Kenneth Copeland and T.D. Jakes and Joel Osteen
and all the degeneracy. I mean, we have literal open LGBTQ pastors and preachers and all this
crazy stuff that's happening in our churches today. If we just allow that to continue,
then God may allow us to go through a Bolshevik revolution as well, which I want to avoid. I mean,
probably the most important book that's not the Bible, I think everyone should read. It's called
The Bridge at Andau by James Missioner, and it's about the Hungarian revolution. Please read this
book. It's so important to understanding communism and what it's really like and what the Hungarians
had to go through under the communists of Russia, which it's so funny to me that Russia was the good
guy in World War II. I mean, it's like Russia, Russia just went through the Bolshevik revolution
where they slaughter millions of their own people. Then, immediately after World War II, they slaughter
just like 10 to 12 million Germans, innocent Germans, and then they take over all of Eastern
Europe and just horrible communist rule of Hungary and all kinds of other parts of Eastern Europe.
It was literally called the Iron Curtain, and we didn't know what was going on. As Americans,
we could only speculate about the atrocities, and people like brave men like this reporter
and historian James Mishner went there, stood on the Austrian border, and interviewed countless
Hungarians as they crossed the bridge at Andau, and he described them in this book. Amazing,
amazing book. I highly recommend everyone read it. And of course, if you really want to understand
why all these things happen, another one I recommend is The Protocols of the Learned
Others of Zion. I have a printed copy. You can find it sometimes online. It's very difficult to
find. It's even difficult to find a printed copy. But this will explain to you why we have a certain
presidential cabinet that we do, why there's a certain group of people that control the media,
why there's a certain group of people that control the banks, why there's, you know,
why the French Revolution happened, why we have the Bolshevik Revolution, why we have World War
I, why we have World War II, why we have the modern state of Israel today. All of these things
are connected and it's all connected to the Bible and because the Bible is the truth and that's just
the reality of the world that we live in. Secularism and atheism is a distraction. I want to see if I
can find a quote from the Protocols of Elders of Zion because I think it's a really important quote
and I'm actually working on another film for that. It's going to be later but I'm really excited
about Stu Peter's documentary on Occupied because it looks so good. I don't think I'll be able to
make a documentary as good as that but mine is going to focus on the protocols of the elders of
Zion in this particular document. One quote from protocol number four, it says this, it says, "We
shall destroy God." That is the title of protocol number four and it says this in their number three.
It says, "It is indispensable for us to undermine all faith, to tear it out of the mind of the quote
Goyim, the very principle of Godhead and the Spirit, and to put in its place calculations
and material needs, arithmetical calculations and material needs." It also says in four,
"Thus all the nations will be swallowed up in the pursuit of gain and in the race for it will not
take note of their common foe." And it's very much that America has fallen to drinking and whoredom,
and that's the Bible's message consistently. Nations always fall to drinking and whoredom, to
not being sober and chasing after whoredom, and that's what America has done. We've become
satish children and we've become drunkards, so we're not interested in the truth. And really men,
when they're not pursuing drugs and alcohol and they're not pursuing whores,
can then focus a lot of energy on learning, education, building, being economical,
being spiritual, doing all the things that we need to do and are commanded to be as men.
But these two things keep us subdued, docile, ignorant. And the Bible even says, "My people
are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Christianity is being destroyed due to these things. Our nation
is being destroyed due to these things. And that the only thing that can wake these people out of
their stupor is the gospel of Jesus Christ. And we need people to recognize this. I think that the
youth, I've seen some hope in the youth of this country. And I'm dedicated to reaching these
people with the truth and trying to help them recognize what's really going on. There's so
much misinformation. There's so many lies. There's so many false prophets. There's so much deception.
And honestly, the truth just slices through it so quickly. And so that's why I'm dedicated to
making films and projects and having a podcast and going beyond just the pulpit to try and reach
people and talk to people. And I'll have a conversation with anybody because the truth
fears no investigation. And the reality is the Bible is the ultimate truth. I'm not smarter
than other people. I'm not even necessarily as well read as very many people. But one thing I
do know is that the Bible is just so true and so good. And I know the Bible very well. And that
helps me to navigate this dark world that we live in very well. So I really appreciate this
conversation. Honestly, this is the most important conversations that can be had.
And I'm really grateful other people want to talk about this. So thanks,
Ian, so much for letting me have this conversation with you.
Yeah. And pastor, what I would love to do is to make this perhaps part of our... And I'm trying to
get these spaces to a point where we've got lots of interesting topics for everybody that cover
tons of different ground and look at the world through a bunch of different prisms, right?
Whether it's history, whether it's present issues, political, moral, ethical, et cetera.
I would love to have you kind of come back on a cadence of whatever frequency would work with you,
if it's every once every two weeks, once every month, et cetera, and maybe just use it as a
chance to do a religious take on either current events, almost like a homily in some ways,
because I think what you just shared, this space has been so powerful. It's also been inspirational.
The ways that you talked about the founding of this nation and its ties to kind of Christian
ideology, you put it in a way that, like you said, the truth cuts, it cuts through all the noise.
And you just did a marvelous job. I'm sure everybody greatly appreciated it. And also,
it gives us a little bit of hope in the sense that the world is a dark place right now,
and I think the West is overtaken by a lot of sin, lust, and greed. And if we think back to
Wall Street and that "greed is good," I think unfortunately the powers that be realize they
could use entertainment and propaganda to kind of shift and shape cultural perspectives in a way
that has led us away from the truth, has pushed us towards sin and that which is not righteous.
And now we find ourselves in this mess where, like you said, people are kind of complacent with their
luxuries, and as a result they're willing to kind of watch their, not only their present,
but most concerningly they're willing to watch the future slip away from their children and
their grandchildren's generation. Because I don't see any prosperity similar to what we've had the
last couple decades in the West if things continue the way that they are. So like I said,
I'd love to do this as an ongoing cadence with you and kind of use this to infuse some
religious perspectives into our spaces as we get these a little bit more solidified.
So I just want to thank you and we can actually turn to, I see RGS down there, I see Witsit,
some other familiar faces, Dom is down here, John's down here. If you're open to it,
Pastor, I would love to maybe cycle through some Q&A with some other individuals if you
have still a little bit of time. Yeah, let's do it. Love to do it.
I have just a small question. Real quick, Machiavelli, before you do,
just because otherwise I might forget, I just wanted to ask as maybe a lead into this segment,
since we were talking about the founding of the country in America anyway and its dependence on
religion and in particular Christianity to shape it, I was curious because a lot of people were
asking questions about things like "in God we trust." They were pointing to the U.S. dollar and
some of the symbolism there and then they also had another person had an infographic or an image
that they shared, a pastor that had a statue of George Washington that was kind of in the same
position if you will or the same hand signals of some pretty demonic forces and so I'm kind
of curious if you want to take a quick stab at kind of Freemasonry, how this applies and if any
of that was you know infused in some of the founders whether it's on because I think in God
we trust was as you know that that's a slogan that's been around for quite some time but maybe
you know if you could speak through how that type of ideology was in maybe the first 50 to
100 years of of America compared to maybe modern times and if these statues are modern incarnations
or if this is something that's been there kind of as a sub subversion from the from the origin.
Sure I think this is a great question because I think a lot of people they kind of they kind
of go in only one direction like they kind of take what I just said and and kind of gloss over
America is just like we're all super Christian we just love the Bible and we're all great and
wonderful and then and then there's kind of like the other side that would say like oh they're all
freemasons and satanic and evil and wicked and I believe the truth's in the middle there because
of course even with Jesus Christ himself Judas Iscariot was one of the disciples who was
undermining and subverting the entire time and sold out the Lord Jesus Christ and I believe
American history is going to have its bad players as well it's going to have people that are acting
in bad faith subverting of course there's demonic forces at work even in some of the founding of
our country you look at the pentagon you look at you should be like pentagram really you look at
Washington DC you can see this like upside down pentagram design of the city you see the giant
obelisk you see the Statue of Liberty which is like this tranny basically in a sense and so
obviously there's been demonic forces at work trying to undermine and subvert the the Christian
heritage of our nation and of our country and I think some some people are but just be honest
people are complex. I don't think that even you could say like not people aren't just like all
bad and all good. Some people are just kind of a mixed bag and you know you look at George
Washington was a Freemason. He's definitely a mixed bag no matter what. I think it's kind
of difficult to ascertain exactly what category you want to put this individual but there's a
lot of good things about George Washington despite him being a Freemason and I think
you know it's possible that sometimes good people get mixed up in really bad things.
You have Solomon in the Bible he was a great guy loved the Lord in fact is arguably the wisest man
to ever live according to the scripture yet then he gets mixed up with false religion false gods
even ordaining and being okay with the sacrifice of children on altars and so you know obviously
if you looked at Solomon in that one little time of his life you'd say this guy's really satanic
and evil but you look in the past he's like super godly and really Christian and I think
that's the complexity of humanity and so there's certainly been bad actors there's been Thomas
Jefferson wrote his own bible and he was not saved he was not a good Christian okay but everybody at
that time had to pretend to be Christian because that's just how the culture was so of course you
have bad actors you have people that are just kind of pretending faking not interested subverting
you have other secular ideologies kind of trying to get weaved in and so that's true when we talk
about in God we trust that's in 1956 when that kind of came out as an official motto of the United
States this is basically in response to the de-christianization of America you have certain
figures trying to kind of bring us back and trying to bring back America into quote being Christian
and so you have some of these symbols and you have some of this heritage being kind of brought up
but it's also not without its you know subversiveness you have the eye of Horace
on the back of our dollar. A lot of things about the Federal Reserve specifically are very evil,
very satanic and so I think you kind of have a mixture you have a lot of gullible people
being taken advantage of and so you know but generally just the populace as a whole has been
it's been a pretty Christian nation in general of course a lot of people still even it doesn't
matter what time you go back people weren't going to church doesn't mean they're necessarily
reading their bible but it's just kind of a Christian subculture subtext that's there
and you know of course you think about the 1920s which is crazy they literally had the
temperance movement it was illegal to buy and sell alcohol in America that's how overtly Christian
at times laws had become and in our nation and so you know even I think Muslim countries
still have laws like that so I hope that that kind of gives a little bit of an answer to your
question I don't know if you have a follow-up there no I think that was that was perfect and
I just wanted to call out I shared up in the nest somebody uh revenant ghost wrote in love love love
this more I'd listen to this every day so I just wanted to to share that one with you pastor it's
just an affirmation of the wonderful work and the interesting ways that that you're bringing kind of
your understandings um to the mass I think we've got about 150 people in here and um and so with
that I you know I just wanted to share um because I think this has been a very very well received
space I do look forward to incorporating these going forward and kind of having this as a way to
to add some spirituality into what can otherwise be pretty um pretty draining topics right like
understanding the Bolsheviks uh communism the influence of Judaism on on society some of the
things that are in the Talmud these are all very dark topics and so I think to have you come in
here as a ray of light has been really incredibly fascinating and end up lifting. With that I want
to go to some hands uh first and foremost with uh with Witsit who uh I know he studied that just a
second uh just a second oh yeah Machiavelli I'm sorry I'm sorry I didn't go over yeah I didn't
see your hand up go for it I I took it down because I interrupted you like a moron at the start
but I wanted to say thank you uh for your state's statements and explanation it's very into my
religion I'm a baptized Christian I believe in God I believe in the fact that subversion has been
taken so far that the truth is always what you should be kind of healing in a sense you have
to use your logic but at the same time things are not so easy to understand and I want you to I want
you to uh look into history or archaeology itself as being attacked constantly they want to shut it
down uh Gobleki Tepe is one of the sites that has been attacked recently is in Turkey which is they
say a lot older than you stated at the start but like I I can't really agree nor disagree with you
or them because both sites and the truth has been subverted so I just want you to maybe look into
it a little bit and one day come back or if you have any knowledge about the site uh just like
me know sounds great and I mean honestly it's I think that there's a goal to make everything
confusing and there's a lot of different versions of history versions of and again when we talk
about Christianity let's just be honest it's fragmented into a billion pieces right now
and you talk to this is the this is the famous saying you talk to two baptists you're going
to get three opinions and you know within Christianity there is a wide array of beliefs
opinions people are very strongly opinionated on these subjects and so you know of course
I don't want to say that I'm right about everything because no one's right about
everything but obviously I strongly believe the things that I am saying otherwise I wouldn't say
them and you know I think it's important to look to the facts and history as well to corroborate
the viewpoints that we have. History and science and all these things corroborate the Bible
and and they're compatible with true doctrine so I appreciate those comments Maccavelli.
My pleasure and Gopale Kethi there's a bright insight he's a very interesting person that you
should look into. I think I linked it at he's talking about archaeology being taken over by
the group of people that you were speaking of the liars or the uh the sub subversive ones
the Jews that actually they have been taking control of all the archaeology sites in the world
so thank you for letting me speak and I have a good one. Thank you Maccavelli and and feel free
since you're on the speaker panel if you have a post about that feel free to to send that up to
the nest so that everybody can quickly um get access to it and and with that let's oh let's go
to uh let's go to wits it and then we'll go to rgs and uh if anybody else wants to come up feel
free to request a microphone and happy to dish those out. What's up um very fascinating uh space
i was listening earlier i think anonymously but i was it was very interesting um especially stuff
like no no catholicism and georgia into the late 1800s and you couldn't hold office in pennsylvania
mr profess jesus that's pretty fascinating so i guess my question um is because when i i looked
into this a while back it does kind of align with what i found which was that it seemed like a lot
of the founding father's main concern were jesuits right uh john adams is like famously quoted as
saying that they were one of the greatest calamities against mankind um he said he was concerned about
the resurrection of jesuits but then he said something to the effect of we're compelled to
basically allow them um due to our religious toleration or something like that so i guess
my question is do you think that that's kind of how jews were able to infiltrate and subvert
in the states because of course christopher columbus seemingly was a jew as were all of
his top people um long before the founding of america do you think that they kind of honed in
on the enemy of the jesuits and by proxy of focusing on them uh the jews kind of came in
undercover um i'm just kind of curious you may have talked about that but i'm curious
what you think about those two groups and kind of the relationship with the the founding of
america do you have any input on that yeah i like i like your question i definitely know wits it we
had a we had an interesting discussion about the shape of the earth a few a few months back
um you know when we talk about uh this specific issue i think that there's a lot of influences
that are negative that they were fighting against so i don't think there's one enemy um the the
the catholic church was something that was abhorred by america i mean by and large and again that's
there were catholics that moved here and and i'm not trying to say there wasn't i think maryland
had their own little section of catholics and and because america was so so giant geographically
you couldn't necessarily i mean we have a couple hundred people or a couple thousand people in a
small settlement you can't enforce your religious beliefs into every single section of all of the
great vast colonial area so you still have catholics coming in um when it comes to the
jews specifically you know they were looked upon with disgust by most europeans still
you know in this time i mean read martin luther martin luther says on the jews and their lies and
and he just rips on jews you know explicitly and america is a very anti-jew and anti-catholic at
its founding so jews are not really a major part of the early parts of american history if you look
at georgia specifically james oglethorpe the governor is kind of single-handedly responsible
for allowing certain jews to come in a lot of people didn't want them to be there but a lot of
jews were medical doctors and things like this and and they just kind of became a part of society
and because they became a part of society people started kind of allowing them to exist and then
they're like we need to change laws because we like these people and then they bring in the
catholics and of course they need they need multiple religions as a cover because if you
just tell a bunch of christians like hey we need to be able to exercise our religious rights of
judaism they're going to be like no so so that's where you kind of have the open door of like
no we want you know catholics and all these other people and um that's kind of that subversion but
even even up to world war two i think the people don't understand like america did not want to
enter into world war two and they definitely weren't like we want to go quote rescue the
jews or something like that there was a lot of opposition to that war effort people liked
germans um adolf hitler was the time magazine person of the year people had we'd gone over
to germany and um we'd participate in their olympics and of course there was a rivalry
there was a competition of course that we looked at them as a foe in some ways but we also respected
them liked them i mean many american men would have wanted to marry german women many germans
would have wanted to marry americans there was a common ancestry and so in a sense they were kind
of a brother from another mother and you know really it wasn't until we do an embargo against
japan strong are them and force them into bombing pearl harbor that caused us to have the propaganda
tool necessary to draw in the war effort and to drag hundreds of thousands of young men into
into the german war effort and to fight germany and it's crazy that we sided with the russians
after world war two you have this giant group of displaced jews because they don't have anywhere
to go europe's been destroyed and decimated that's where you get 1948 a call to put them in the middle
east but you also have a lot of jews fleeing to america and we were trying to say like oh well we
just want to bring these people in why do we want to bring all these jews in well it's because the
political elites know that they're in control of a lot of banking power and wealth and they're just
trying to bring these people in to line their pockets and it wasn't necessarily like a
humanitarian effort or we love them or anything and the jews basically get into our country in
world war ii if you understand that most american men were not circumcised before world war ii
it wasn't until jewish doctors in post world war ii baby boomer generation and the 1950s that you
actually have circumcision becoming a regular practice in america jews being coming a part of
the culture and of course they focus in on a lot of degenerate business practices like hollywood
and and banking and these type of institutions that gave them the ability to gain control
politically in the 1960s there was a huge effort to try and squash out the socialism that's being
brought in by them and all of a sudden after just a few people were jailed and nothing really
happened it just went away they seized control of the media of politicians of major corporations
they become the mouthpiece of america through hollywood and propaganda tools and and now we're
in the position that we're in today where we have a lot of jews in concentrated in basically new york
la why because these are the media places of the world they need to control the message of the
narrative and you basically have lgbtq and jewish populations and that are way outnumbering the
demographics in new york san francisco la chicago miami and so you know there's a direct correlation
to the lgbtq to this jewish influence of course that's that's why you have this group of people
and and they got a stranglehold on false prophets and false teachers like john hagi you have the
schofield bible that was a big influence into bringing in the zionist idea and saying let's
re have a rebirth of israel and we have the modern state of israel in 1948 and it really
changed the culture and mindset because for prior to that everybody believes in replacement theology
virtually it's the understanding the church has replaced israel it's just the fact of history 70
ad israel ceased to be a nation the church grew over the world and it's been the major force for
the last two thousand years and the the modern state of israel 1948 i believe is a device of
the devil to bring in the end times it's not a miracle of god or him blessing a certain ethnic
group because god's not a respecter of nations as the bible says he's not a respecter of persons
and god loves every person black yellow red red brown you know tall small it doesn't matter
he wants them all to be saved and so you know it's it's racist to be a zionist like you you
literally like that's the most racist ideology they always talk about being anti-racist the most
racist viewpoint is zionism which teaches that jews are special and that they're better than us
and look i'm not against jews but they're not special they're not better they're still
mankind and they need the gospel and they need truth and you know i have friends that are jews
that have converted to christianity and i love them i had an attorney that was a jew and i really
like him he's converted to christianity and these are some great people and i really like them
there's nothing wrong with them for their ethnicity but at the same time you know jews i
i don't think that i don't think that the jews and catholics were working together very much
because if you study history the catholic church hates the jews it would have only been like
certain elites kind of working together and of course the jesuits have their problems and
and they are a foe but i don't think that the jews necessarily needed the jesuits that much
i think it's really just they had control of the banking and they used that to strong-arm
politicians and bring them in i mean if you read the protocols learned ellis or zion they'll tell
you exactly what they do and they'll tell you that they bribe and extort politicians and that's how
they gain political control um so you know i think that's and again the jesuits had power at one
point so they may have subverted some of them but at this point jesuits don't have the power that
they did in the 15 1600s so good question i don't know if that that answered kind of what you were
thinking oh yeah that was yeah very there aren't you thank you brother that was awesome and and
pastor just to affirm your comment there because a lot of people are completely unaware of this
but i shared a gallop poll that was from 1940 of all places that said that 93 percent of
americans were opposed to going to war against germany only seven percent were in favor of it so
i think you're exactly correct that the american people certainly didn't have this animosity
against the germans as would be presented by hollywood which should make us ask who
who's in control of that narrative the other thing that i'd quickly add is that in addition
to pearl harbor of course i did a space with lungs who i he was in here early yep he's still
in here i'll send him an invite to to speak if he wants to come up simply because we did a space
and he walked through historical documentation that he had found from newspapers prior to
america's entrance into the war post a lot of which were post pearl harbor where basically
the u.s media was telling americans that cities like new york i believe chicago san francisco
and others were being attacked via air raids and in some cases submarine strikes on u.s cities
where not only were the media lying and and making these things up but there were even what seemed
like u.s military activities that were basically creating false flags to build support for this
idea that that the american people should go and join into the war so obviously the the media and
and quote unquote people in control had to you know they had to propagandize the citizenry to
even join into that war which is just a piece of history that was completely unknown to me i'd be
surprised if even one in maybe a hundred thousand americans are aware that those types of things
were were taking place and it just goes to show that this psychological warfare
on the once very christian american people has been going on for at this point over a century
well honestly the facts of world war two are are so in opposition of the narrative that i feel like
they don't talk about it like i mean when i was in public school i learned a lot of history but i
feel like they never talked about world war two i mean almost nothing and i think it's just because
like when you start even just opening your mouth it's like wait a minute like none of this fits
the narrative and so it's it's something like think about it you can't even question the
holocaust you can't even talk about these things it's illegal because as soon as you just start
talking about any facts of world war two or any of the things that are happening it's like
narratives start falling apart quick and and a lot of money is on the line a lot of vested
interests is i mean literal nations are are based on the results of world war two i mean it's it's
crazy uh that you you go to school and you don't even learn any of this stuff it's because the
truth and history are are really clear on these topics and so you know it's really important to
get it out there and again that's why i say the gas lighting in these subjects is intense the amount
of misinformation is intense and and we need to look at primary sources um we need to look at
original documents and that's that's how we can kind of get the scales off from our eyes that's
just so well stated um with that let's go uh let's go over to uh carthagite and then um
and actually really quickly as long as not sure if you want to add anything i saw you down there
and listeners uh if you want to add maybe 60 90 seconds on some of the the wonderful research
you did and then we'll go over to carthagite and then we'll go up to dom yeah basically um
to get the american public into world war two there was a big cyop operation um as ian mentioned
there was a fake bombing raid on new york schools were closed down people looked there were planes
that were bombing new york um san francisco and even um submarine shells in elwood in california
um fake submarines hack um and then even in california was the biggest one there was like an
an air raid where the military popped off 1500 rounds of anti aircraft shells into the night sky
so yeah it was a pretty big psyop to get everyone riled up into world war two um it also helped
people to buy bonds to basically fund the world the wall so not only were they getting people
enlisting trying to protect their country they were also getting people to basically buy bonds to
get involved in the war it's just crazy when you when you realize that and the the faking of those
those air raids um it's just wild that that happened in particular new york where they
they broadcast that shut down all the schools and all those things and and people are completely
oblivious to this um and when you start piecing those parts of history together it gets very very
very curious um and and makes you question a lot more than than just history which is how we get to
some of the topics that we talk about but let's go over um i believe carthagite had his hand up so
let's go to him and then we'll go to dom and then we'll go down to john sorry i cut out a bit um i
have a question for pastor shelly in specific um around kind of like earlier he was talking about
like the french revolution and a bunch of other historical events i think earlier on he touched
on like the fall of rome and things like this um and he cut from seemingly he ascribed all these
kind of historical events to jews and then i heard witsett say something a little silly which was
that you know christopher columbus was obviously a jew which isn't true at all um fyi but basically
what i'm asking is at what point are we ascribing too much power to jews not just in like the modern
day which we know there's like a lot of power resides with jews in america but historically
at what like where do we draw the line and be like hey you know this is probably a jewish fable that
they had all this power for all of history or whatever i think that's a good question yeah i
mean here's the thing i i think if if you know the early part of my timeline if you kind of
follow it i was not subscribing a lot of power to jews i mean it is the roman empire that's
dominating and and and persecuting christians for the first 300 years then you kind of have a break
from constantine to about 500 ad then you have the dark ages which is it's the catholic church
that's in control and dominating in europe all the way up until you know we basically have the
protestor reformation we have the church of england being established you kind of a separation of
powers there it really wasn't it wasn't until the french revolution that you see this jewish power
uprising so from from my perspective like if you kind of understand the french revolution they
became very decadent again and you have a lot of jewish lawyers kind of using their situation
with the peasantry to overthrow the government and once they overthrow the government they install
napoleon bonaparte which has the emancipation of the jews and he conquers all of europe basically
and just emancipates jews because jews were hated and outlawed and um essentially not able to really
have much influence and power in most of europe for a long period of time and it wasn't kind of
until the french revolution and with napoleon i mean it's interesting they just made a movie
about napoleon bonaparte since they literally have a song dedicated to him and he and the jews will
sing but he basically emancipated a lot of these laws and and made it where they were capable of
kind of re-establishing themselves in a lot of these european countries and it wasn't and again
they're kind of working behind the scenes in a lot of these places you have the ross childs
obviously working with banking funding all these different wars and then of course you have the
bolstered revolution which again i highly recommend this book um behind communism which kind of gives
the the pretext of why that even happened and how that even happened but the jews were limited to a
certain area geographically like the pale it's called they're like in the pale and and they're
not allowed to go outside the pale but over time the russians ended up allowing the jews to be
highly educated they infiltrated all the major institutions of power and influence and through
world war one you basically gave there was a small opportunity for them to overthrow the
aristocracy which is described in the protocols of elder zion of how they they do these type of
things which is written around that timeline and they had to they had to overthrow the monarch and
the aristocracies in europe to actually gain power they didn't have the power yet and they
used a lot of subversive means then they had to infiltrate america and they really haven't seized
control of america until until recent history this is uh you know through means of the federal
reserve hollywood getting control of media corporations and and slowly kind of getting
their way into the point where now a presidential cabinet is mostly uh jewish and and now with you
know obviously israel gaining more power and influence in the world and it's just kind of
escalating it's it's not to say that jews are in control of the world and all of history is just
is just crazy it's nonsense um it's demonstrably false but but that doesn't undermine the fact that
we see an uprising in modern history and they're influential in a lot of these major world events i
hope that maybe that answers a little bit of what you're saying there carthaginian and real quick on
that um just a couple statistics uh 66 percent of biden's 30 person cabinet are either ethnically
jewish or married to a jew and if you include uh the individuals that have a jewish undersecretary
so if not they but their number two person is jewish it goes all the way up to 91 percent
so that's 27 out of 30 of the cabinet members it's just it's an astonishing percentage if you look
at the white house staff it's 34 percent if you look at the top donors to the 2020 election it
was 17 of the top 25 donors were jewish i mean the numbers go on and on and on and to say that
it's not overwhelmingly overrepresented by that group is you know that it would just be crazy at
this point because it's so clear cut yeah how can you attribute that to and obviously i agree
that they're highly overrepresented in both like legal areas and holywood and kind of the subversive
like degenerate areas but how can especially for like biden's cabinet and things like this
i mean if you ever talk to your average jew in america they're not these like talmudist
plotting schemers that are like trying to undermine you and make you circumcise your kids or whatever
most of the time they're they're just like white liberals right um real real quick on that one and
look you might not be right but what i what i could say uh or you might be right in that they
might not be talmudic uh in their religious views they might not have even read the book or have any
idea what's in it but what i can tell you is that the over representation across hollywood and the
media and the ownership of big tech i mean we don't have to even debate that i feel like it's
just commonly accepted and the reason that i say it is because whether it's hollywood and the media
the the propaganda right um hell the founder of netflix is mark randolph bernays who's the
descendant of edward bernays considered the jewish father of propaganda who is the descendant of
sigman freud the jewish father of psychoanalysis um so so whether it's netflix the largest streaming
service in the world or disney or any of these others with bob iger at the top of disney of
course like i don't think i need to defend that the media is overwhelmingly jewish and i say that
because obviously the media pushes these ideas of dei and the importance of diversity and then
dei is jammed and i could show you a video of larry think the ceo of blackrock saying that
they need to use their influence over the economy to force companies to take action to support dei
policies larry think and the entire c suite of blackrock is is all jewish now i bring that up
because those individuals are saying we need diversity in the workplace we need diversity
of ideas we need to celebrate diversity and yet if you look at biden's cabinet it's it's none of
that so you've got you've got these 27 out of 30 people in biden's cabinet that are have these
extremely close linked uh ties to judaism like i said whether it's their birth their spouse or
their undersecretary and yet all all of those cabinet members are shouting to the world we
have to have diversity of everything and it's like is that not the most obviously hypocritical
stance that anybody could take when they look around the room and it's just their teeny tiny
click but they're enforcing dei policies that are essentially uh being used to stab the white
american middle class largely christians in the back and to force them out of positions of
perspective prosperity and so when you start to see those dots and you realize that not only are
they overrepresented but they're obviously using things like hollywood big tech dei policies they're
using them to destroy the once prosperous group of people that like the pastor mentioned were at the
inception of this nation it becomes something that that frankly is very emotionally taxing
and and not only is it is it in my opinion wrong but it's unbelievably gaslighting that i have to
to sit around and listen to these people blab on about the importance of these ideas that they
they don't in any way shape or form bring into manifestation it's it's purely just a weapon
against people that are in this group of the once healthy middle class that are being frankly
impoverished brainwashed dumbed down fattened up and are being drugged with ssris alcohol weed
anything and everything that they can throw at the the middle class to satiate the depression
that is resulting from the implosion of the once prosperous nation and they're
you know fast can i want to touch on that i want to come on this first because this is such an
important tension and and here's the thing the average jew does not control the world or have a
secret zoom meeting or something in a lever where they can press and and control things it it's
obvious that that's not true and i think some people try to use this to undermine what you just
said there ian and and here's here's how i can explain this tension is when someone is ethnically
jewish even if they aren't practicing they still are in a culture and being raised in a particular
worldview that is being influenced by this religion of judaism because their uncles their
aunts they're going to be taking a synagogue here and there they're going to have an infused
worldview that's coming from the talmud and that talmud again is a satanic ideology it's an
anti-christ religion and because of that religious influence it's going to influence them whether
they go to synagogue whether they're super practicing whether they read the talmud or not
and that religion is a love of money that religion is focusing in on gaining power and wealth by any
means necessary and so that's why you see this correlation the attack on white people is also
not because white people are physically superior or mentally superior it's because white people
in america were christians and because white people are christians the attack is always on
the gospel and it's always the devil who's ultimately in power and control of this world
and he's going to use his minions to attack christianity and the attack against white people
is a thinly veiled attack against christianity and christians specifically they don't really
care because they're obvious hypocrites about this jews are white biden's white um you have
hillary clinton's white why do they always talk about how bad white people are it's because it's
about christianity that they're really attacking that's why these people can be so disingenuous
about it they're like oh white people are bad they're not saying white people are bad if you
just substitute the word christian every time they say white the world will make sense to you
all of a sudden you'll finally understand everything that they're actually saying
because they're not because they're not christian biden's not christian hillary's not christian any
of these people so that's how they can kind of abstract themselves from quote quote identifying
is white and this is why you also see like the label far right black people as being white oh
you're actually really just a white guy whatever and it's because they're really trying to say oh
you're really actually christian or you care about the truth and if you seek the truth the more
christian you'll become the more the more you read the bible and study the bible the more truth you
get to and the more you hate the truth the more you'll kind of hate things in the bible and you
know people are on a sliding scale here some people like some truth some people like a lot of truth
but it's hard to find people that like all the truth and then the reality is that this anti-christ
religion is the minions and the ministers and the servants of the satan and especially the high
ranking officials and devil is using these people to censor christianity and destroy christianity as
a nation because that's his ultimate goal he is a thief he is the destroyer he is the antagonist
he is the ultimate enemy of humanity the devil hates all humans he hates the jews he hates everyone
and the devil wants us all to be destroyed and killed and he's using the people that subscribe
to his religion to his advantage and of course you you look at some of the practices of judaism
and these hollywood elites and it's it's overtly satanic in nature you look at the grammy's you
look at what they do behind closed doors you look at what they do to children the human trafficking
you look at all of these things it's just tied to their worship of the devil whether they realize
it or not they are the synagogue of satan and that's just the reality you know you can't text
that or tweet that but you know that that is what's going on so again i i know jews individually
that are nice people and and i have friends that have converted to christianity there's nothing
wrong with them there's it's not like they're this doomed ethnic lineage or something like that
it's just that if we were to be honest they're raised in a culture and they're raised in an
environment that is a lover of money and that which is evil and so therefore a lot of them have
a very bad world view and they have to reconcile with the bible to change that mindset and real
quick if i can and then i want to go back to what's it um because i knew he had some thoughts on this
but i'd also just add in um even independent of the religious aspect uh and i say this because
if you look at studies uh on in-group preference as i always found this very very fascinating
not only jews do jews have the highest level of in-group preference for their fellow religious
individuals right so they basically will favor they have a more favorable outlook to fellow jews
based on religion but also from an ethnic standpoint so in other words whites look at
other whites they say oh that's a white person okay great um or maybe that's just good or maybe
it's fine that they're a white person but but the allegiance or the alliance that they have based
on both skin color or from christian to christian is lower than from jew to jew as an ethnicity and
jew to jew as a religion and so like the pastor was just saying that that in-group preference is
a result of that very very strong knit culture that they grow up in so you have to take into
consideration even if they're not necessarily religious they're they're they're raised in this
culture of jew there is the the idea of israel and the nationality of jew is of course the
religion there's the ethnicity there's all these different pieces that play into it and so just
like he was saying i i know lots of jewish individuals i have i have many many many of
them that that have been part of my life in one way or another um and both the cultural differences
are very specific but there's also this this very tightly knit community where even if you're not
going into any of the religious uh ceremonies you know people they they might just practice hanukkah
and all these other things but they do also just socialize outside of any religious specific context
just with one another that happen to be jewish so it's a very tight group and so i i think you're
correct the member of biden's cabinets they might not know anything about the talmud but when they
go to look at who they're going to hire to fill in the positions underneath them they're going
to have a higher preference towards fellow jews and that back to that concept of dei it runs in
the face of it but if you're a jew you can identify as non-white when you apply for a job so what does
that mean that means you benefit from the concept of diversity where that white individual might not
and i i do think that it is anti-white i think it's also anti-christian and so i might have a
little bit more of aggressive perspective on that than maybe the pastor does and that's fine we can
we have totally different positions but you know i i do see this this effort at the quote-unquote
globalist level they're importing individuals that are christian from south american and central
american nations into america and i think that effort is just as much about being anti-white
even if they are in fact christian but that's just the difference of opinion i agree with everything
else he said and yeah i hate to clarify on that because here's the thing you know importing these
people from south america they're not the same christian as i'm talking about nor in africa
and neither would they subscribe to the original principles that we have in our founding documents
as a nation so you know again that's where christianity itself is such a broad bucket
and there's so much diversity in it unfortunately some people get confused and they think well these
people are christian but they're really not they don't really care what the bible says
they're i mean again south america is heavily influenced by catholicism and now maybe a little
bit pentecostalism but those are two groups that were identified in the document that i showed
earlier as not even being a part of society so you know again I don't have anything against
people that have strong preferences towards like hey I'm white and I want to marry a white
person like that makes total sense and I believe if a country or nation has enough time they
will all look the same anyways.
There's a reason why all the Japanese look the same, there's a reason why all the Chinese
look the same, there's a reason why all the South Koreans look the same, there's a reason
why all the Europeans look a certain way.
It's because when you have an ideological continuity and you're geographically distinct
from other areas, they're going to all meld and blend together and look the same and they're
going to have a common physical appearance that's tied very closely to their ideology.
It's only in the modern era where we have a lot of this mixing and the travel exploding
that you see, I mean America's this melting pot quote unquote.
But hold on, Jews look the same.
What is it?
Jews look the same.
They have ideological continuity.
That's the thing.
Like he said, they have strong preference of tribalism where they will only marry each
other even if they are geographically distributed everywhere.
They're kind of like the only group of people that are really, they're not the only, everybody's
actually like this.
But I'm just saying they are very much like this.
But even in America-
Tribalism is a theme.
Yes, exactly.
They say tribalism, but that tribalism is not always just demographically based on their
physical appearance.
It's also based on their ideology and that's what's driving a lot of that.
And so, you know, again, I'm not-
Would you say then that like the answer to this kind of like this tribalism and this
in-group preference that we see from Jews, and you see it from like other immigrant groups
like Indians who are now like the CEOs of like a bunch of tech companies, would you
say then the answer to this is to have an in-group preference or for white people to
have an in-group preference and for Christians to have an in-group preference to kind of
like fight back?
No.
I mean, because that's the shadow.
But aren't they told, just to push back on that, aren't they told that right off the
bat they're racist if they even consider that?
Yeah.
I mean, of course they say that, but it's like who cares what they say, right?
Yeah.
Well, no, no.
I've been racist all the time, but you know, I have a church filled with every single color
and all kinds of people all over the world.
And look, I've preached on these topics and said specifically, like, I don't care if people
quote "inner mix" like race, quote unquote, because I don't believe in race.
I think that race is a manmade construct that's not tied to reality, science or the Bible
whatsoever.
But at the same time, like, it's not necessarily wise to mix race when you're actually mixing
ideology and that's almost usually the case.
And so that's why it's kind of a bad thing.
Yeah, you're mixing like all these random religions and view point views and food and
it's just like, it's just bad and let's be honest, Christian culture is just the best
culture period.
I mean, there's a reason why India sucks.
It's because Hinduism is the worst religion and it's bringing its filth onto the people
there and nobody wants to move to India virtually because it's just, it's not hygienic and
it's an anti biblical religion and they rejected the UK.
I mean the UK came and colonized them and they actually were pretty good for a while
and had a lot of success, prosperity, but they rejected the Bible, rejected Christianity
by and large and so look what happened to them.
Now God's punishing them with Hinduism and abominable filth and a horrible caste system
and culture is important and why would I want to import that to America?
Because let's be honest, I don't like people that are very nice but I don't want to import
Hinduism.
Hinduism is evil and wicked and I want nothing to do with it and it's tightly coupled with
being physically Indian, whether that's a fair assessment or not, it's just the reality.
But I've met Indians that are Christian and I like them and I'm for every Christian and
I even like these people, I want these people to be saved.
But let's just be honest, I don't want you to be a part of my country until you're willing
to abide by our laws and our laws are based on the Christian principles set out in the
Bible and if people don't want that, then they shouldn't be a part of our nation or
our country.
They shouldn't be allowed to immigrate, they shouldn't be allowed to be here.
I mean, you have to look at immigration like your household.
You're not going to open your door and say anybody can come in.
You're only letting people come in with a purpose.
People should only be allowed to come to America because either A, they're getting married
to someone here specifically or they have a job.
If they don't have those, they shouldn't be here.
Forgive me for interrupting you.
I mean, I've never done this spaces thing before, so I don't know if I echo or what
I got, but I know at some point I got to interject and my original icebreaker was going to be
that Hitler said it best that you stick together like birds, but I'm glad that wasn't my first
line on my debut for space.
Well you still did it.
No, listen, because ideology is really what binds us and in the spirit of being true Americans,
a lot of us as Americans are blind to that.
I apologize if I'm jumping in.
I can't hear whoever is speak.
I haven't been able to for the last couple of minutes here.
Oh, sorry.
I know.
Can you hear?
I can't see the name.
I can't see the name or what.
We swap them out.
Real fast.
Ian, can this guy call me out with Christopher Columbus as a Jew thing?
Yeah, and I put a video up in the nest on this exact thing from a space that we did
where a Jew, of all people, was confirming that not only was Columbus Jewish, but that
the ships that he was on were funded by Jews, was part of the exploration, and that it directly
tied into the expulsion from Spain.
Yeah.
I mean, it was literally the same year.
So go for it.
Because the guy said, it's obviously wrong, right?
But so what happened was the monarchs ordered the expulsion of Jews in the kingdoms of Castile
and Argonne in 1492.
Four days later, Christopher Columbus came from Spain.
Okay?
That's just a fact.
And you can even look up- Christopher Columbus is not from Spain.
Hey buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy, I'm speaking.
So the Jewish Telegraphic Agency actually published an article in 1934 explaining Christopher
Columbus, a Jew who knew evidence supports a theory, and it points out that he actually
went by the name Christobal Cullen as opposed to Colombo, which was later changed.
And there's ample evidence that he actually was Jewish.
He left as soon as there was an expulsion.
He was completely funded by Jewish financiers, and the top three people that were in charge
underneath him were all Jewish.
So I encourage people to look it up instead of just facelessly dismissing things.
He absolutely had ties to being a Jew.
So Christopher Columbus is actually quoted saying about Jesus, let me pull it up really
quick.
And obviously he wasn't a Bible-believing Christian or anything like this, but he said,
"No one should fear to undertake any task in the name of our Savior if it is just and
if the intention is purely for his holy service."
So this silliness that Christopher Columbus was Jewish and every major historical figure
was Jewish is like a part of the Jewish Derangement Syndrome where people think Jews are omnipresent
force throughout history.
Christopher Columbus might have came from a conversant family, which is, for those who
don't know, are Jews who were forced to convert after 1492, which was after they had finished
the Reconquista and conquering Granada and things like this.
But coming from a conversant family or having one or two Jewish ancestors does not make
you...
Okay, this is called a straw man.
This is called a straw man.
No one said that all Jews were super powerful.
I just talked about them being expelled from a country.
The truth is that they weren't all powerful and the monarchs, typically Christians, kept
on banning them from their country.
The only way that they got control was they would use usury and financing because most
Christians actually wouldn't partake in usury.
It was typically outlawed as considered immoral, but the Jews would do that.
They would become very powerful.
They would do things like clip off different pieces of the silver coins and make new coins
and subvert the currencies.
They all had their different reasons why they got expelled, which directly goes into the
face of claiming that they were all-powerful or omnipotent.
No one said any of that.
You have to try to strongman what I'm saying.
I don't want to get into a debate with you.
I'm just telling the room they can go research it.
He didn't rebut any of the facts, which are he went by a different name before he came
here.
He came here four days after Jews were expelled and he was completely financed by Jews and
the top people in charge with him were also Jews.
These are all facts, that's why you can't address them, it's all good.
Now the room can go look it up, a Jewish agency published a story confirming he was a Jew
in the 30s.
If you could put that up in the nest if you have a post on that one.
Like I said, there's also video from a space that we did, a Jewish individual was talking
about that piece and what was fascinating is real quick and then we're going to go
to the next speaker and I Carthage I pushed you down just because in the interest of time
I want to cycle through some other speakers but not only was the claim that Columbus was
Jewish that his ships were all financed by Jews but when it comes to the transatlantic
slavery that Pope Alexander the sixth and I didn't I was shocked by this again this
was stated by a Jewish individual you can go and watch the video it's the audio is
all clipped from the space but Pope Alexander the sixth who was Jewish signed the papal
bull papal decree that permitted slavery in the west by basically reclassifying blacks
as lesser than and therefore tolerating slavery which otherwise would not have been allowed
under Christian doctrine because it went against some of the religious teachings so what does
that mean it means that not only was Columbus's journey potentially Jewish but that the transatlantic
slave trade which was also oh by the way overwhelmingly funded by Jewish funded ships it was made
possible by Jewish captains that were on those ships and in fact even most of the slave trades
the days where people could buy and sell slaves the auctions were called off on Jewish holidays
because there weren't people to do the buying and the selling of them the claim was roughly
that 40% of Jews in America owned slaves, whereas as little as 2% of non-Jewish whites
had slaves in the Americas and that as many as 80% of all slaves that were owned in America
were owned by Jews.
So a tiny group of people, a large much larger chunk about 80x the amount of whites that
owned slaves and the Jewish slave owners like the Monsanto family for example that to this
very day are multi-billionaires, they own Monsanto which does all the GMO seed products.
They were one of the larger slave owners, they were Jews.
What a strange coincidence that all is that you wouldn't have had potentially the voyage,
the permission for slavery, the ownage of those slaves, the transitioning of people
from Africa into the new world and the buying and selling of those without a drastic over-representation
of Jews.
Is that strange?
I think it is.
These are just things about history.
That doesn't mean that we should hate anybody.
Like I said, I have tons of individuals that are in my social circles, past, present, I'm
sure the future that are of that ethnicity or religion.
I don't hold anything against them, but what I do do is I evaluate patterns, I examine
history and the present that we live in to try and understand why the world that we are
seeing things like World War II like the pastor spoke about, why are they so drastically misrepresented?
Why are Russians somehow the heroes of World War II when they commit mass genocide on individuals
over the course of a couple of decades leading up to that war and is that genocide what somebody
like Adolf Hitler was pushing up against and if so, why would Hitler who is potentially
going to war at least intellectually with a group that was committing mass genocide
and all kinds of atrocities across Europe via the common turn, is that a villain?
And I'm not saying that he wasn't but those are questions that we should certainly be
asking.
Hey guys, sorry, I don't hear who was talking but Ian was you.
What genocide did Russia did?
Tell me that please.
Well, I'm going to remove you from speaker just because it's a frankly preposterous
question.
If you want to look into things like the Holodomor, if you want to look into the gulags, the quote
is as many as 10 million individuals alone killed under Yegoda, a Jew who basically was
running the early rendition, not only of the gulags but also of essentially their strong
arm, I'd almost call it law enforcement system, which was truly just a weapon against the
masses that spoke out against the people in power.
Imagine if in addition to the police and the FBI and all these things, if you had a weaponized
group of individuals that were in allegiance just to those basically running the country.
That's largely what you saw.
If you don't believe this, go back and look at the Bolshevik leadership of the early renditions
of it, not only in the offset but throughout essentially the first two, three, four decades
of that power until they came to a collapse.
The over-representation of Jews was just stark.
People will point to Stalin and they'll say, "But Stalin wasn't a Jew," and according
to Carl Raddle, he wasn't, and he also wasn't married to a Jew, but his number two, his
number three, his number four people all were.
The over-representation there is beyond stark, and so if you're to ask what genocide, it's
just such a ridiculous question, I'm not even going to allow you on the stage up here.
But let's go over to Dom, who had his hand up for quite some time, and Slovanus, I'm
not going to bring you back up, I apologize, you're welcome to leave if you'd like.
But Dom, why don't we go to a question from you, buddy?
Hey, good morning, everyone.
As an agnostic, I take a sort of a secular approach to looking at the world.
And Dom, I apologize, I'm going to cycle you, I can't hear anything.
I don't know if it's just you or others, but I'm going to bring you back up here.
I can hear you.
Okay, my apologies.
Yeah, I just sent him an invite to come back up.
I don't know why he and some others I'm not able to hear, but go for it, Dom.
Can you hear me now?
I sure can, my friend.
You know, I sort of categorize myself as an agnostic.
So I'm sort of, I look at the world through a different lens.
I don't subscribe to any way of thinking.
I just sort of look at the world and see it for what it is and base my synopsis on just
critical thinking.
When I look at the last hundred years, I can't help as somebody on the outside looking in,
can't help but view Christians and Catholicism and part of the Abrahamic religion that the
European diaspora around the world believe in as failures of keeping the Jews out of
power.
You know, when you read scripture and all of the foretelling in scripture, what were
the Christians and what were you doing?
Keeping the books out of the schools, calling them out for all of their isms over the last
seventy years, refusing their propaganda and war.
How did you manage to get so caught by these guys when in your book that you are supposed
to believe, in your deity that you believe, told you that they are of the synagogue of
Satan, that they are the devil?
What were you doing?
Like, how seeped are you in your faith?
And it breaks my heart when I see all of these evangelical and Baptist "Christians" supporting
Israel as they're murdering children and people come onto these spaces claiming they're a
Christian and that they knew this all along.
Well, you failed.
You failed miserably.
You should be looking at your feet.
You shouldn't be standing all benevolent and pious.
You should be looking at your feet.
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Well, I want to comment a lot of things you said there because, number one, I do feel
embarrassed for Christianity and we should be ashamed.
The children of Israel turned away from God at one point and God destroyed them through
the Babylonians and Daniel literally has to get on his knees and beg God for forgiveness
for his people just turning away from the scripture.
And I would say there's still nothing wrong with the Bible.
It's just that people stopped reading it and stopped following what the Bible teaches.
But I think that we have to, if we're going to say the Bible's true and that we're following
what the book says, it also says in 1 John chapter 4, verse 1, "Beloved, believe not
every spirit, but try the spirits, whether they have God, because many false prophets
are gone out into the world."
The Bible paints a picture that there will always be a large conglomerate of false preachers
and false Christianity that exists.
And that's what we have in America.
I mean, Catholicism is a false religion, it's a pagan religion, it worships Mary and idols.
You look at modern evangelicals, they don't believe the Bible whatsoever.
You cannot tell me that these people are following the Bible, they don't read it, they don't
study it, they're not even looking at it at all.
So the vast majority of Americans are not Christian really at all, maybe in name only.
Kind of like Republicans are in name only.
And so the problem is that we don't have a revival of true Christianity of people actually
following what the Bible says.
If you look historically, you have groups of people that actually believe what the book
says.
And now we just have a mass exodus from the King James Bible and from what the book says.
That's why we see the generosity.
That's why we see people forgetting all of this really important information that you
brought up.
And it is embarrassing.
It's a shame.
But I think that we have to also recognize that America was so great and a superpower
because they were following the Bible, because they were Christian.
It's just we've fallen, and we've fallen hard, and we're falling.
We're in a downward spiral.
Many nations have risen and fallen, and America's no different.
We're not special.
We're not elite.
Christians aren't better than other people by anything other than the scripture.
It's the scripture that gives us the power and blessing of God.
And when we don't follow it, we're going to be just as cursed and just as degenerate
as the rest of the world.
And arguably America, it's kind of the best of both worlds.
It's doing a lot of good things still and has a lot of good people.
But at the same time, it has some of the worst evil and the biggest atrocities at the same
time.
So I don't think that we can look at this situation right now and just say, "Oh, Christianity
must be false because there's a lot of bad Christians," or "Christianity is false because
right now America is bad."
But that's just kind of not thinking about the whole picture here and being fair with
the text because the text never says, "Yeah, everyone's just going to follow the Bible
and love it."
I mean, here's the thing.
Most people reject the truth.
Most people don't like it.
They don't want to hear about it.
They just simply are selfish.
They just want to drink.
They want to sleep around and they want to just live a very sedentary life.
They're very lazy by nature.
And that's the sinfulness of man.
And because we're sinful, sometimes a nation as a whole, if they reject the Bible enough,
are going to see the consequences that we have.
And you're totally right.
We did allow our very obvious enemy of Antichrist to take control and seize our nation.
And that doesn't mean that there aren't still people fighting.
I'm trying to fight.
You know, I'm trying to get in the battle.
I'm trying to wake people up to the truth.
And you know, I'm literally banned on virtually every platform.
I've lost like countless YouTube channels.
I can't even use the app.
I've been banned on Facebook as a terrorist.
I've lost all credit card processing.
I can't do any credit card processing with any company with any card.
I can't bank at Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Chase.
I've been sued, evicted.
I've had all of our money stolen.
Like I've had just virtually everything you can think of.
We've been protested with hundreds of protesters, every single service for years.
I've had been vandalized.
Protesters show up at my house and harass me at my house.
They follow my employees around.
They've gotten people at our church fired from their jobs.
Like there's a real battle that's going on and the goal is to keep voices like mine off
of the internet.
Not because I'm special, but because the Bible is special and because the word of God is
special and that's what they're afraid of.
They don't care about me.
I'm not special.
I'm not a great speaker.
I'm not like really better than anybody.
I'm not more intelligent than anyone.
I don't have any special traits or something like that.
Average height, average person, but the Bible is so powerful and it doesn't matter who
says it, it's going to change people's hearts and minds and lives and they can't afford
that because if we have a mass awakening in America, they will lose their power.
They will lose their grip of control and they need it to be censored.
So I hope that kind of answers your question a little bit, but I agree with you.
We should be ashamed of ourselves as Christians.
Well, can you name a country that where the majority is part of the Abrahamic faith, that
is the most peaceful kind, haven't dropped atomic bombs, low suicide rates, low opiate
addiction, low homeless, you know, when let's just put belief and faith in what the Jews
wrote aside and just look at statistics.
And if you look at Iceland and Denmark and Sweden, these countries, it's, I mean, it's
you can't really argue against it, that these secular countries.
I don't agree with this narrative because here's the thing, you have to evaluate countries'
success based on personal liberty and personal prosperity.
The Scandinavian countries do not thrive in these categories and even them, the reason
why they're even decent is because-
No, I'm just talking about murdering other people in other countries.
Sure.
Obviously, America's done horrible things.
The atomic bomb was a super evil thing.
I'm not promoting that, but you have to realize that evil forces have taken control of our
government throughout its history and done horrible things.
You're talking as evil forces as it's some sort of supernatural thing that has possessed
the people.
Yeah, see, I don't ... That's the Jew grift, right?
No, I believe-
These countries kill tons of people with a bioweapon, bro.
Yeah, obviously-
Yeah, I'm well aware.
These are spiritual because I believe in the Bible, I have faith.
I believe that we live in a physical world-
Don't you think that that's a Jewish scapegoat?
No.
Well, it wasn't me.
It wasn't me.
It was the devil.
Oh, I didn't do it.
No.
Well, yeah, okay.
I agree with you there.
People are responsible for their actions, but I do believe that there is a spiritual
element to the world that we live in and that these people can be influenced by familiar
spirits or demonic spirits.
That's what the Bible teaches, that the devil influences people.
That doesn't mean that they're not still making free will choices.
They are, but some people are just making really, really bad decisions and they're allowing
themselves to be influenced by spiritual wickedness in high places as the Bible describes it.
There's a difference between me and a dog.
A dog doesn't have a soul.
But would it not be fair, would it not be fair, would it not be fair to let's just say
we snap our fingers and the Abrahamic face were never written, they were never scribed,
they were never whatever, invented whatever you want to believe, and societies and people
within these societies were solely judged on their behavior and their merit throughout
the centuries.
That is it.
That is what you are judged by.
What standard do you use to judge the behavior if you don't have a linear code of ethics
outlined?
Law of man.
You cannot say that morality comes from belief in supernatural.
Well, here's the thing, your world view is kind of, this is just an argument that a lot
of people have about morality.
I just, but Dan, pastor, I cannot help as an agnostic, okay, I'm not an atheist.
I believe in a creator.
I don't think any of this was connected.
No, I'm saying that these two sides argue this point that you're making all the time
and the reality is that...
But I'm just going on statistics, statistics and facts in history.
No, you just said make-believe.
You first started, let's imagine a world that has no Abrahamic religions, then the world
doesn't exist.
I said, or the make-believe that the Jews wrote like in their Torah and their Talmud
and their Zohar and their Sanhedrin.
Right.
But the whole...
All of the supernatural things.
If you go back to the beginning of this discussion, I outlined how the entire world in our history
is based on the Bible.
You can't ignore that fact, whether you like the Bible or not, that is just the reality
of the world that we live in.
And if you take away "Abrahamic religions," you're taking away all of our history, 100%
of our history and humanity.
There's no such thing as this group of "secular people" just living by secular laws.
Laws by nature are religious, they're inherent, morality is a belief system, and the Bible
says that the Word of God is written on all of our hearts and we all have a conscience.
You don't have to teach people that the Bible is wrong.
And the Bible says you always have to refer, "You have the Bible."
I want you to prove the Bible and prove that morality doesn't exist without using the
Bible.
There's billions of people who don't believe in the Bible.
These existed thousands of years before the Bible.
So how did they manage?
The Bible has always been available and not in complete form.
Obviously, the only certain parts of the Bible were written in certain parts of history.
But even in Romans chapter number two, it describes how it says-
You've got to stop doing that, Pastor.
You've got to stop doing it.
You've got to stop doing that.
Can you please stop interrupting him?
Yeah, let's try to keep it a little bit more civil if we can.
Let's call it a day.
Here's the thing.
"For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in
the law, these having not the law are a law unto themselves, which show the work of the
law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the
meanwhile accusing one another."
The Bible describes that every person has the moral law in their heart and they know
that stealing is wrong, lying is wrong, murder is wrong, all of these things are wrong inherently.
They want to say like, "Why can't we just live by the law of man or the law of what
makes sense or not hurting people?"
But what they don't realize is they're actually attributing that belief to what the Bible
says and that all of those laws come from the Bible.
And so there's no such thing as a non-religious law.
It's kind of a lie.
That's a Jewish lie.
Atheism is a Jewish lie.
I mean, if this guy thinks that Jews are tricking people, it's atheism specifically
because that's protocol number four that I already brought up, that they want atheism
to creep in and for people to ignore the fact that God exists.
The Bible says the fool has said in his heart there is no God.
You know, you've got to start with some certain level of base knowledge and the Bible teaches
that it's evident that God exists and then from there we can understand that the Bible
is the written word of God and then from there we can make other assertions.
When you're not willing to accept that God exists or the Bible is the word of God, you
really have no basis of argumentation and there's really not a place that you can really
establish any good argument for a discussion because for a discussion to happen you have
to both agree on terms.
When we're so abstracted from those, it's impossible to really make headway.
Now I'm all for having these discussions and trying to convince people of the truth of
the Bible and understanding that God exists and we need to do that but that's starting
point number one.
I don't think that we're going to necessarily be able to agree on the finer details of the
supernatural world that we live in when we can't even agree if there's a God or not.
That's kind of the starting point of that kind of a conversation.
But I appreciate the questions because they're important and it's important to say like,
how can I believe in Christianity when there's so many bad Christians?
And that's a fair point and bad Christians give Christianity a bad name and give the
truth a bad name.
The Bible says that in Jude chapter one but that doesn't mean that it's not true just
because there's bad Christians.
That would be like us saying the opposite of like every Jew must be bad because there's
some bad Jews and that's not fair either.
We want to be balanced in our worldview and recognize that just because there's a lot
of bad actors doesn't mean everyone's a bad actor.
Just because America has done some horrible, horrible things does not mean that America
is all bad and that everything they've ever done is bad or their heritage is bad.
Why are people moving here if we're so bad?
Why do people want to live in America?
Why are we having everybody look up to us?
There's a reason why.
It's because of the Bible, because of Christianity and that's just the fact of the last few
hundred years.
I hope that people can recognize that that's the point I'm trying to make.
I think you did and it's worth noting that people have difference of opinions on these
kind of things.
We're talking about, I mean, Dom, for example, he mentioned people having a code of conduct
independent of religion.
I mean, obviously that has happened, right?
Mine's been around for a long time, but I think we should be able to approach these
conversations in a way that's respectful and not interrupting one another and also just
keeping the tone very civil.
I don't know if people have a similar view, but occasionally folks will come up and they'll
just ask things in a really heated kind of fashion and it's like, "Whoa, let's slow
down because when you escalate the tone, it escalates tension, which escalates the animosity
or the friction and it's just not productive.
So let's try to keep things compassionate and understand that especially on topics like
religion or ethics, there's going to be tons of room for disagreement and it doesn't mean
that there's a right or wrong position necessarily on all of these things all of the time and
I think the pastor has been very, very clear whether it's talking about ethics or Jews
or any of these things.
It's not always a black and white issue, there's lots of room for gray and so I appreciate
the tone that he's approached these questions with and I would just ask that people kind
of give him the same courtesy.
So that being said, let's go over to a familiar face.
I see we got John over there.
We actually got two Johns.
So let's start with John Salisbury and then we'll go down to John Persent and then we'll
go to RGS and then we'll go down to Taylor and then we'll go down to Common Sensible
who just raised their hand.
Oh, thank you and thank you pastor so much for coming in.
John, I apologize.
I'm going to cycle you because again, I can't, I don't know why I couldn't hear him even
though I saw him come off mute.
So I'm going to drop you down and bring you back up here, John.
Quick note in there, like the reason that Christian nations have been so successful
and prosperous is because they have a linear code of ethics outlined in the scriptures
where there are gray areas amongst morality and actually absorbing objective morality
with a linear code of ethics is the reason that Western Christian civilizations and societies
have been so prosperous.
It's directly related to our prosperity.
And as well being humble because the most dangerous thing for humanity is power because
it corrupts everyone and being humble is one of the main guidelines of the Bible.
Amen.
That's a great point.
I think that our founders were humble because you look at George Washington, he wants to
step down after two years because he recognizes that power corrupts everyone.
I think that the limits of federal government, we literally have the three branches of government
trying to limit one another and having balance.
I think they're trying to have a limited federal government and keeping the states in power.
They all recognize that man is evil and man is going to corrupt this and man's going to
take over and man's going to cause problems.
There's a reason why the constitution literally even says like, "Hey, if our government gets
so bad, you have the power and the right to reestablish a new government."
They knew what they were doing.
That's exactly what I wanted to talk about too.
Sorry.
Yeah.
They're humble and they recognize this, governments come and go and they fail.
The reason why we've been successful is we've provided a high level of accountability.
We had a good infrastructure, but all those things don't matter if you have corrupt people.
I think that's people don't understand.
If you're not a Christian nation, it doesn't matter how Christian your laws and your government
is set up.
It's going to fail.
It's not really that our government is bad as far as its structure or its formation or
being a constitutional republic.
All of these things are good.
What's bad is having bad people run them.
What's bad is us as a nation having turned from God because look, there's only one God.
He loves all of us.
If we sin against Him and we go against Him, there's a punishment.
If we want the blessing of God, we have to keep His commandments.
Those commandments clearly come from the Bible.
That's why America was blessed.
It was a nation that was trying their best to follow the commandments as a group of
people and they were the most blessed.
Of course we have our shortcomings, of course we have our failures, of course we've turned
away and we have these serious issues, but we have to humble ourselves again and say,
you know what, it doesn't matter what my personal opinion is or who in my family is affected
by this.
I'm going to do whatever the Bible says and even if it's countercultural, even if it's
ugly, I'm going to seek the truth and the truth shall make you free truly.
Amen.
Yeah, great, great comments.
Let's go to John Salisbury.
Hello.
Good morning, Ian.
Can you hear me now?
Excellent, and thank you for this space and thank you, pastor.
I'm sitting here riveted to my chair listening.
Very good information and I hope people will really take heed and listen.
My question surrounds I've been doing a lot of studying on Eastern Orthodox religion and
when it's split from Western Christianity and so I'm going to give you some data points
here, and so I'm looking at the Western churches inside America and inside Europe too that
are taking massive amounts of money from these non-government organizations and settling
all of these illegal immigrants and it's almost like they're conspiring against the population.
What I'm studying in Eastern Orthodox religion and the major difference they have with Western
religion is that they believe man is fallen and man will always be fallen and that's
what we have to guard against and in Western religion it appears that there's some sort
of redemption available for man and that man can escape being fallen and so I think you
kind of get the gist of what I'm studying and what I'm seeing and what I'm troubled
by. Can you comment a little bit on that about why has Western religion and the Protestant
churches and the Catholic Church failed us so badly and why have we as Christians allowed
the churches to fail us so badly? Does that make sense?
Sure. I think there's a couple things there. So first, you're kind of addressing I think
the great schism from the Orthodox and the Catholics and, you know, let's just be honest.
The Orthodox has not really generated a prosperous good nation. And again, I'm not saying that
at times they haven't had some power and success, but I'm just saying like they're not America.
And there's a reason why America shines brighter is because it's the true religion. Catholicism,
again, was a false religion from its onset and it got so corrupt to the point where people
are literally selling indulgences. I mean, you could literally just go to the priest
and give him money to commit adultery, commit horrible sins and like that's not the Bible.
And again, I kind of understand your question a little bit here about the nuance of like
Eastern versus Western worldview of like well, man's bad or man's good. I think that there's
plenty of examples in the West where we still also recognize that man is bad and we need
to be careful and provide ourselves accountability. But I would say this, because the Western
influence has had so much false teaching and false prophets, they only care about one thing
and that's money. And you don't win a lot of people over. A lot of people don't want
to come to your church when you say man's bad, you're sinful, you need to quit sinning.
You win people over by saying you're good, it's fine, and we can excuse sin. You win
them over with indulgences. You win them over with a Joel Osteen, like I'm for everybody.
And these people just want to build empires to just simply acquire a lot of wealth. But
that message is not representative of true Christianity. And a lot of independent fundamental
Baptists that live in America, we recognize that man's sinful and we're preaching hard
against sin. It's just that this modern evangelical movement and a lot of the Catholics, they
want money. And so, you know, the Pope, "Hey, I'm accepting of, you know, the LGBTQ." And
he kind of goes back and forth and it's like, "Why?" Just because of money, just because
of power, just because of influence, not because they're tied to the particular scripture.
They don't really care about the truth. And so, you know, and again, the Greek Orthodox
is a little bit more conservative, a little, in some ways. And I've gone to Greek Orthodox
Church. I've actually take classes to learn Greek from a guy over there and I like these
people. But unfortunately, you know, the Greek Orthodox Church also is wrong on doctrine.
They're not, they don't subscribe to salvation by faith and they have their issues. And
I think that, you know, it's arguable that God did punish a lot of them throughout history,
even the Bolshevik Revolution, which is, I'm not excusing what happened. I'm not trying
to justify it. It was horrible atrocity. Many innocent people died, but it could be argued
that it might have been a divine judgment of God for Russia not really subscribing to
true Christianity and trying to purge it from its society. And it's necessary for people
to understand the spiritual, the spiritual view of Christianity before they can really
understand some of these world events. And again, salvation is by faith alone. These
other religions that are "Christian" don't believe that. They believe it's by works.
And that's the battle that's always happened from Cain and Abel all the way till now. And
every religion in the world, whether it's Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, or Catholicism
or modern Protestantism teaches salvation is by works, but only the Bible and mostly
just Baptist and evangelicals teach salvation is by faith. And that is what true Christianity
is, is when you believe salvation is putting your faith in what Jesus did. His death, burn,
resurrection is the only payment for salvation. And that's the ultimate red pill. Once you
get that truth, it'll really unlock your understanding of the spiritual battle that's going on as
well as the physical. It's crazy how dumb our society's gotten that we can't even agree on the
physical anymore. We can't even agree on facts of history. There's just so much misinformation.
The government's been so corrupted. People just are so confused. I mean, they did 9/11 in the open
and people don't even know what's going on. COVID was a huge mass propaganda tool. So you can see,
people can be deceived very easily in large populations. It's no different with the
Catholic Church, the Greek Orthodox Church, and many other churches throughout history
where they deceive large populations and large groups of people. And unfortunately, we are sheep
according to the Bible. We need to be humble and recognize that we're not always very smart.
We don't always know what's best for us and we're supposed to just trust in what the Bible says.
Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding
and all the ways acknowledge him and he shall direct thy path. The Bible is supposed to be the
lamp and the light into our feet. And so, you know, I really would encourage you to consider,
you know, what I'm saying because the Greek Orthodox Church and the Eastern side is they,
they're not on the right side of history. Yeah. And, and the, the reason that I brought the
Orthodox Church up and, and you really helped me focus the crux of what, what I'm trying to ask
you is not that I'm, not that I'm thinking, Oh, well, the Orthodox Church has the mousetrap
that we need. Uh, it's more, um, I'm studying that our, our, our, our faith-based, um, um, system
was community-based before the Federal Reserve and before the World Wars and all this. And it's what
really made, made the economic engine of America, right? Was these faith-based communities that were
depending on each other to help pull each other at us in, profess their faith, keep on the good
road. And we, it seems like we've lost that. And, and so I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure out how,
how do we get back to these faith-based communities that espouse exactly what you've been, um, talking
about this morning and bring ourselves back to where we're not getting fooled, we're not being
sheep to the slaughter for, for this, uh, this, uh, world order that's trying to realign, um,
the entire society, our culture, our values, our beliefs. I, I guess that's really what my question
is, is more, we know what the hammer is and they're hammering it with us, but how do we
get out from under that hammer now? Right. And, and you know, that's, that's, that's the great
question. And, and let's be honest, in times past, the church was part of the community,
whether you like that or not, because it's a social aspect. So many people that weren't even
Christian are just going to church just to do business, make relationships, have fellowship,
have a social life. And because of social media, because of transportation increase,
because of feminism being brought in, you have a less dependence on church. And, and you know,
Chick-fil-A is still closed on Sunday, but it used to be every business was closed on Sunday.
Everybody respected church, everybody had to go to church. And it was part of society,
but as they kind of walked away and the pursuit of gain and the pursuit of money and you have
just a generosity being brought in, that's where you kind of see the loss of the power and the
influence that the church had of that community. And so, you know, again, the answer is difficult.
It's not hard to know what to do. It's hard to do it. People have to humble themselves and say,
you know what, I need church in the Bible. And the problem is people don't like church and they
don't like the Bible. And, you know, unfortunately, we have to get a large percentage of the people to
just learn a lot. People just don't know very much at all. Our education system is a complete
failure. It's a complete joke. And, you know, that's why I'm also trying my hardest to do
stuff outside the pulpit, because I'm like, people just need to learn a little bit of history.
People need to learn how to read. People need to like be recommended books. And like, you know,
our education system is so poor today. And it's like, people need more information. You know,
my kids are homeschooled. You know, people should be homeschooling their children and teaching the
Bible and taking them to church. And we have to get back to it. There was times in Judah's history
and in Israel's history where they had gotten really far away from God. It was really bad.
But as soon as they went back to the Bible and said, we're just going to do whatever it says,
and they start going back to church, God blesses them again. And that is the only solution for
America. It's not Donald Trump. It's not the Republican Party. And again, I'm not against
these individuals. Obviously, voting for a Democrat is voting for Satan. But I'm saying
that the Republicans aren't going to save us. Only the King James Bible and only going back to
Christianity will we thrive as a nation. And we are very post-Christian and we're in a downward
spiral. But I do believe there's hope because I do believe that a lot of people are waking up.
COVID kind of woke a lot of people up and I think that a lot of people are waking up on
the power and influence that the JQ has with the censorship. But the question is,
are we going to continue down that true seeking path or are we going to just say,
it's all bad, I just give up? Because that's what they want us to do. They want people to feel like
it's so hopeless and so bad that we can never make a change that everybody just gives up.
And we can't give up for our children, for our grandchildren, and for the lost. We have to
continue to fight, and we have to continue to educate, and we have to continue to pray,
and we have to continue to go to church and read the Bible and have these one-on-one conversations.
And you know, hey, I'm grateful we have a space today where I'm given an opportunity to talk to
a lot of you people and talk with you guys. And you know, I hope that I'm not trying to come across
as like a know-it-all or something like that, because I certainly am not. I just, I feel very
passionate about these subjects, and I feel like I was misled and very deceived, and I didn't know
very much. And I just want people to learn, you know, a lot of things that I've seen, a lot of
things that I've read, and I hope that we can all continue learning and continue growing, because
there's so much to know. But, you know, when it comes to the most important things, those have
been established. It's the Bible, and we really need to get back to it. So I hope that maybe that
can answer your question a little bit. But again, I always say this, it's not always hard to know
what to do. It's hard to do it. Amen, pastor. You did answer my question, and it is so important.
Everything you're saying is so controversial today. Getting people, like you said, you get banned off
Twitter, you get banned off Facebook, you get banned off social media for making the controversial
statements that we have to get back to God, we have to get our children back to God, we have to
rebuild our communities in the image of faith and lashing together our common values to where we can
stand us in. And you just don't hear that anymore in any popular media or educational system that
services the children of America. And it's so refreshing to hear you say that. Thank you. I'll
shut my mouth now. But yes, I 100% agree with exactly what you just said.
Great point. It's almost like there's a group of people that control the media that don't want to
submit information to get out there. 100%. That's just a conspiracy theory,
guys. Come on. That's just stories. Just stories. Well, perfect. I know we got some other hands up.
I see RGS. I think John Person had his hand up, if I'm not mistaken, as well. Okay, there he is.
Yeah, let's go to John Person, and then we'll go to, I believe, RGS. Okay. Can you hear me okay,
Ian? Sounds good. Okay, good. Yeah, nice to meet you. I did follow you. John, I apologize. I'm
gonna have to cycle you again. This is crazy. Were you able to hear him? Yeah, I always can,
but I don't know why you're just not here. It's weird. So weird. All right, let me bring him back
up. Sorry about that, John. All right, go for it, John. Okay, can you hear me now? Sounds good to
me. Yep, sure can. Okay, good. Yeah, so nice to meet you, Pastor. I did give you a follow.
You can follow me back. I think you and I can exchange some messages and some scripture and
do some iron sharpen iron. I appreciate a lot of the things that you mentioned. I mean, just again,
incredible. I mean, and welcome to the war, right? I just found out as an empty nester of five kids
that I'm no longer eligible for I-9 or W-2 employment because I've been politically active.
I've even run for state rep back in 2008. So the bottom line is they already have the no fly list
out there for employment for people that are going to quote unquote rebuff the government or
whatever it is we're doing. I appreciate what you said about the Catholic church being false.
I mean, it's right there in Jeremiah 44 about baking cakes to the queen of heaven. It's Nimrod
Genesis chapter 10. It's right there. So and again, not to be a black pillar, but don't anybody put
any hope in Stu Peters, the power of Stu Peters to help us win the war because I mean, he lauds
Putin's Russian Orthodox churches. So if you go and look at Putin at church, all you see is the
mother child cult all over that thing. So again, that's another false, you know, arm of Christianity.
Just so you know, because it sounds to me like you and I are cut from the same cloth, I was in a
fundamental, independent, separated Baptist church. And every time the doors were open,
I was in there Wednesday morning, Wednesday night, Sunday morning, Sunday night, having
the 1611 King James Bible poured into me. But when 9/11 happened, I went to all those gray-haired
deacons and I said, "There's no 60-ton 757 at the Pentagon." And they all just went, "You know what?
You're a guy making $12 an hour with five kids. You haven't got a pot to piss in or a window to
throw it out of." And that's how they judged me and that's how they dismissed me. So God moved me
out of the church and I've been fulfilling the Christian test. How do you know their fruit?
They continue in my word. So this discussion, again, it's about the Bible. All of the people
that are worked up and anxious and worried about the future of America or this land or whatever,
communism, whatever it is, most of these people are of a Christian bent. But as you correctly said,
they don't know the scriptures. They don't know them. And now that, and I talked to Ian behind
the scenes in DMS, this whole thing with the Nazi LARPing that's going on, these people think that
there's power in resurrecting 1930s racial Germany without having an honest discussion going, "Germany
lost." The moneyed powers of the same people, the money changes that Jesus took a whip to in the
temple. These same people hired the United States to go and pound Germany into the ground and white
people once again killed white people. This is how they do it. So again, correct view of history,
the Abrahamic religions, et cetera. There's no discussion about Jews and there's no discussion
about Israel if there's not the scriptures. Where does that stuff come from? It comes out of the
scriptures. So, I mean, again, like you said, we are created beings. There is a creator. So yeah,
let me quickly roll through some other points though. What I've been running into now for two
decades, I just got kicked out for public broadcasting a year ago because I wouldn't be
a Trump-tard. I mean, I had people just sitting there telling me, "I don't care if Trump is the
chief rabbi. My life was never better." The Americans vote with their wallet. That's how
we ended up here. The love of money is the root of all evil. And since the Federal Reserve has blown
up a credit balloon now for almost 100 years and we're $35 trillion in debt, all people care about
is they think there's security and money. I'm a Hebrews 13.5 guy. Be content with such things
as you have. I've only promised food and raiment in this life and nothing else, and I've been given
it. So I'm not going to complain about not having, you know, being in the rat race and having a
half a million dollar house and driving a, you know what I'm saying. But what I run into
is these people who they don't want the rule of law, which is what you're talking about,
the commandments. They don't want the rule of law. They just want to rule. It's this, again,
the spirit of moral relativism that is driving this country off the bus. So like I said, again,
the Christian test. Do the people continue in the Word? I believe the founders told us,
obviously. You can read all their writings. You're talking about John Adams. If America
does not obey the laws of nature and nature's God, we're going to lose the entire foundation
and the whole building that sits on top of it. It's quite obvious. Like you are saying,
the false professing Christian church, these are the people that are saying,
we don't care about the laws, the refugees are welcome. They're also the ones hanging
in the pride flag saying, love the sinner, hate the sin. I'm sorry, did Sodom and Gomorrah happen
or not? I believe it did happen. Absolutely. And I believe the United States of America will
actually suffer a Dresden attack in World War III if we don't get rid of this thing, because you
know the story in Genesis. Could God find 50 righteous people in the land? 45, 40, 30, 20.
Could he find 10 righteous people in the land to withhold judgment? No, he couldn't. And then he
told Lot to get out, and Lot's wife did what? "Oh, my Mercedes is in the garage." And she looked
back and turned into a parallel. These people worship, they serve temporal pleasures. Like,
again, they serve money, and I mean, that's it. That's exactly where all the moral relativism—and
the problem is, as you mentioned before, you know it, Matthew 13, "A little leaven leaveneth the whole
lump." You know, it's rat poison. Rat poison is 1% poison. It's 99% good food. So it's all this
feel-good pseudo-Christianity crap in the Republican Party. I mean, they just embraced
the pride flag at the Republican convention. I mean, you know, even Tucker Carlson, before he
left Fox, I have a 35-second clip of him saying, "Gerald Ford was installed because he was on the
warrant commission that absolved the CIA of Kennedy's murder." So we haven't had a ballot
box in this country since I was four years old. And right now, again, it's all just a CIA script.
And the people, like you're saying, the Christian people have to get back in the Word so that they
understand the Babylonian captivity, so that they understand the deliverance. I mean, again,
you're talking about it. It goes right back to the book of Acts. It's just a cycle of history.
These people, the scribes, Pharisees, and Sadducees, that Jesus called all kinds of names
in Matthew 23, did nothing but chase and try to kill the disciples, going all the way back to the
first century. We've been in the last days since Christ descended. It's no new thing under the sun.
But if the people don't understand how they're being, again, Jude chapter 1, right? We have to
preach the faith once delivered to the saints because certain men have crept in unawares,
given them a false gospel, given them a false Jesus. If you want to go there,
that's Revelation 13. The second beast told man to make an image of the beast that suffered a
deadly wound and yet lived. Who suffered a deadly wound and yet lived? Christ. Well, they've made it.
Man has made an image of Christ. And this is what all these people going into false Christian
churches are worshiping. They're not worshiping the Christ who ascended. He rose from the dead.
They're not worshiping. They're worshiping an image made by man. And if the people don't get
in the word, they don't see this. So again, I appreciate your ministry. I mean, look, America's
going to go into a house. We're going to go into a house church situation, folks. People like me
and band pastor here that know the word and are trying to get the Christians away from
fighting this in the arm of the flesh or the secular war. This is God's battle. This is
Gideon's army. Okay, this is 300 out of 32,000 that are going to fight in that day because they
keep their eye on the enemy. It's not going to be nickels, noses, and numbers. It never was nickels,
noses, and numbers. Our American forefathers were outnumbered and outgunned grossly. And yet
God delivered this nation for a purpose. And now once again, after some 200 years, we've fallen
back into sin. We've fallen back into serving money. And we just can't believe America's now
been enveloped into global communism. We just can't believe it. Well, look at it. You can't
cut down a tree on your property without a government permit. If you don't pay your property
taxes after you pay off your mortgage, they'll just take your house. Folks, you're already under
the communism. It's in your face, and you're going, "No, no."
Obviously, our country is a lot more communist than people can realize readily. I want to
address a few things that you brought up here.
Go ahead, man. Thanks.
Number one-
Hey, Ian. Do you mind? I've got 1% on my phone. I'll make it real quick. About us
falling and stuff like that. We're not under our original constitution. And just hear me
out. The Jesuits, after the Revolutionary War, we were broke. We had too much money
given to us. And we had to sign a new constitution, a second secret constitution. We are not
under a republic anymore. And I'll leave it at that.
So I want to comment on some of the things you brought up, John. Number one, I don't
think we should put our trust or confidence in any person, even if they were a great person.
You know, you brought up Stu Peters. And here's the thing, obviously, there's things I probably
disagree with, with Stu Peters on. But I like some of the things that he does. Like, I like
the Died Suddenly documentary. I thought it was a really good documentary. And the Occupied
film that, you know, I've seen the trailer for, it looks really interesting and engaging.
And at least he's willing to have some conversations with people that I appreciate that he's willing
to platform. Of course.
And a real quick band on that. I just wanted to comment. He also, I don't know if everybody
saw this announcement, but he also just set aside three two-hour time slots a week going
forward to Zach Logos, who I often have as a co-host up here. And I've spent a lot of
time, I've watched Zach go from under a thousand subs to I think he's now up to something
like eight or nine thousand, maybe more on X. He also has a show on Rumble. He is as
sincere and legit as they come. I really feel like I've vetted him because I connected
with him long before a lot of his prominence here. And Stu just gave him that time slot
and that alone speaks volumes to me. I can't say about Stu. I don't know him intimately,
but from what I know of Zach and have seen over the last couple months, he's a wonderful
voice on this matter. And I don't think Stu, if he was a subversive, would allow somebody
like that to get even more exposure because Zach goes straight for the jugular on these
issues that are the most taboo. So I'm giving a plug to Stu. I don't know the guy, but that
in and of itself is a huge reflection to me. And just a plug for Zach, who I'll put up
in the nest in case anybody doesn't follow him.
Yeah. And I mean, here's my viewpoint is that someone that's not attacking me is someone
that's, you know, kind of, I want to at least leverage our commonality and influence them
for the better. So of course, the people that I disagree with, I still can like those people
and have civil conversations with them, but I'm trying to win them over with, you know,
what I believe and what I think is true and sincere. And I'm sure in this conversation,
most people in this room, if not all of them, probably disagree with me on something maybe
major, but you know, my goal is to influence them and to try and help them understand the
truth. And you know, when it comes to, you know, the judgment of America, because you
kind of brought up like Sodom and Gomorrah, obviously there must be 10 people holding
back San Francisco from being nuked off the planet because you're totally right on that
point. And you know, if you study Pompeii, this is post New Testament, Pompeii was a
literal Sodom and it was, it was so bad. Pompeii is a very interesting place you should study,
but Pompeii had become so degenerate that literally they had male genitalia engraved
in every business. So like at first when they were excavating this and looking from the
archeological evidence, they found a building and it had like male genitalia as the doorknob
as like everything and they thought this is a brothel. And, but then they kept excavating,
they realized like every building was like this and they realized the first building was
actually a bank. And this is kind of like where we're headed where we have this rainbow flag
on like every single one of these businesses and institutions that it could get way worse.
It could get to a point where they're literally promoting this kind of filth in a very provocative
way. And if we ever got to that point, God might just literally nuke us off of the planet because
whether you like the Bible or not or like the God of the Bible, he is going to judge people when
they send that grievously. And with our abortion and with the sodomy and all this weird stuff that
we're doing, God can't just allow that to go unpunished. And so it's very important to turn
back to the Lord. And I can be sympathetic to the fact that some churches just aren't very good.
And even in the IFB world, there's plenty of churches that I wouldn't go to. But I don't
think that we should get away from church. And I want to clarify something. You brought up this
house church movement idea. There's nothing wrong with a church meeting in a house. But I don't
really like the house church movement because by and large, they're very anti like bishops, elders,
and they're against like organizational structure. And I think that people should still be
trying to grow their churches and have a large influence and movement. There's nothing wrong
with a large church. It's just that a lot of the large churches have sacrificed doctrinal integrity
to grow. And that's wrong. We should only grow if we're actually reaching people and keeping
doctrinal integrity intact. And so, you know, there have been great churches in the past.
J. Frank Norris in the Dallas fourth area had a big independent Baptist church. Jack Hiles was
actually one of the largest churches in America at one point in history. Great guys, not perfect,
but really stood for the gospel and made a big impact in the world. And, you know, I hope that
we could have some churches like that again today. And, you know, even if people don't come to my
church or have the exact same faith as me, I still want to influence them for the better,
give them some truth, get them saved. And, you know, to me, we should earnestly contend for the
faith by going out into the marketplace of ideas and having these conversations. And, you know,
even people that are doing bad things or making bad decisions or we call them "controlled
opposition." I think everybody's a little bit controlled opposition because they allow money
and these things to influence them to some degree. And I think instead of just calling all these
people out and saying everybody's fake and everybody's a grifter and everybody's CIA and
everybody's a fed and everybody's bad, like, we should give people the benefit of the doubt
and leverage the conversations we can have with them to influence them. And when we find someone's
a true bad actor, like a Ben Shapiro or something, then we say, okay, let's avoid this person for
now because they've kind of shown their true colors. They don't have, you know, the Bible's
best interest. They don't have Christian's best interest. They don't have America's best interest.
But you know, I think that there's a lot of people like Alex Jones, Stu Peters, these people that,
sure, do they have some things wrong? Have they done things that I don't necessarily agree with?
Yeah, but they've also done some good things. And they empower certain voices that I think could
actually make a difference. And you know, I hope that they continue to do so. And I hope that we
can continue to use their platforms and use the opportunities that they give to reach people with
the ultimate truths. And real quick on that, one thing I'd add, and I've been very critical of
Alex Jones, there was a little while where almost everything he would put up that would kind of
come close to the sun. It was like Icarus, right? He would get close to naming the root,
but never do it. And I would often troll him and just say like, "Hey, I noticed you didn't mention
X, Y, or Z." And then I'd point out that his current wife and ex-wife, and as a result,
his children are all Jewish. And isn't that a strange coincidence? But I bring that up because
Alex Jones has a massive audience. He hits millions and millions of eyeballs. And if we can even get
him close to the sun, it allows us to kind of go that extra little mile to, you know, connect the
last dot and to try and bring in individuals. And so while, you know, I, like I said, I control him
from time to time for not necessarily connecting that last piece, but it at least gets us close.
And so, Pastor, I couldn't agree with you more that we have to look at the voices that are at
least doing something to try and advance the cause. And we have to be thankful that we at
least have them, because especially as things are going when it comes to controlling speech,
we see that we're rapidly getting reined in on what we can discuss. And while we have,
like Sam Parker always says, "While the sun's up, let's make as much hay as we can on this issue."
And those voices that are out there, whether it's Tucker, Stu, Alex Jones, etc., like,
at least they're getting close. Same thing with Candace Owens for what it's worth.
I mean, here's the thing. Some of these people, I would say like, "Oh, man, I disagree with a lot
of things they're doing or even their life choices in some cases." But like, I want to win them over
and focus on the things that we agree on as some level of conversation starter and then allow that
to influence them because people are complex. People have a life, they have a family, they have
a history, they have influences, you know. And so like, I think we could be a little bit sympathetic
to the fact that people are complex, they have difficult situations. And 99% of the time, we
don't even understand why they're making the decisions they're making. We don't have all the
pieces of information. We don't know everything that's going on. We don't really know what's
necessarily rattling in their brain. And I think that if we try in meekness to, the Bible says
in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves, you know, and so sometimes people are
hurting themselves and making bad decisions and allowing themselves to be controlled and
trying to come alongside those people and trying to help them and say like, "Hey, look,
good point here but, you know, you're wrong on this or why aren't you naming this person or why
don't we talk about this or, you know, having these conversations?" And I think that that's
important. I don't want to just isolate myself into an echo chamber because it's very easy for me and
my faith to do that. Independent Final Baptists, we're very separated. We like to be very purist
and think that we're kind of special. And again, there's a time for church and to be called out
and the Bible tells us not to be ecumenical in that regard. But I think that we still need
to go out into the world and engage the world and have these conversations and talk about them.
I'm not afraid of any topic or subject because I believe that the Bible is true and it's right.
And when we really look at the facts, it starts to become very obvious what the truth is. So I
appreciate your comments though, John. And again, I wasn't sure what you meant on the
house church movement. I just wanted to say that, you know, I'm very pro building churches and having
those institutions as God, you know, wants us because the church is the pillar and ground of
the truth according to first Timothy chapter three. So we need church. And I believe that we need
strong leaders and moral leaders and courageous leaders. And, you know, I have some friends that
I highly respect. Pastor Stephen Anderson, great person to follow. You need to see his information.
He's made some great films. Pastor Roger Jimenez, and I'm not going to name all of them, but some
great men, some great leaders. The YouTube policy of banning was like literally written
because of Pastor Roger Jimenez. So like, they literally quoted his sermon. And that was their
initial like major purge of accounts on YouTube. And so, you know, these guys, while they may not
be well known to everyone, they are definitely known by the power brokers and the individuals
that want to censor this information. And so, you know, I hope that we can continue to leverage.
I mean, look, do I like what Tucker did as Stu Peters recently? No, it was dumb. It's a bad
decision. It shows that he's being controlled greatly. But if Tucker said, "Hey, do you want
to come on the show and talk about something?" I would do it in a heartbeat because, you know,
I want to reach more people with the truth of the gospel. And, you know, I think that even if these
people, even if they were in bad faith, let's come alongside them, argue with them, talk about things
and, you know, get the information out there because what the enemy doesn't want is the truth
to ever get out. You know, so we need to just keep talking about it, bringing it up, and making it
clear what the Bible says on these issues. Thanks for your comments, John. Is it cool? Is it cool?
Goodbye. Go ahead. Thank you so much, Pastor. We'll go back to John Salisbury. I know he's got his
hand up. But before we do, let's go through RGS, Dr. Strange, JJ, and then we've also got…
Ian, can I respond real quick? Yeah, go for it. And then the only thing that I would ask is,
as we kind of go through, just because we're getting short on time, if we could just try to
keep everybody's comments maybe a little bit tightened up, that'd be awesome.
Yeah. No, I want to respond so you understand what I meant by house church. You know the history of
church split after church split after church split after church split. So again, Martin Luther,
the indulgence is boom, big split number one, right? And now it's got all the way down to this.
I did, since I moved to where I'm at, I did go down to the Baptist church a half a mile from my
house and I sat down with the pastor and told him, "I will not have my kids die for the political
state of Israel that was created after Team Stalin communism won World War II." That political state
over there is not Bible prophecy. It's a creation of man and it has its religious
tenets which they use to badger Christians saying, "We need to go die for that cause or God will be
disappointed in us." All I'm warning, and again, if I go to these other Christian assemblies,
these Christian churches, and I go, "Let's discuss this scripture," and they just, the pastor,
searches authority over me and he's got his Master's degree from Tennessee Temple or whatever it is,
I'm not intimidated. I will not move. And he's going to say, "Well, you're not welcome here."
So again, what I mean by house church is that the closer we get to the truth, the more that they're
just going to whack-a-mole us. And what I'm saying with a guy like Stu Peters or Candace Thoens and
all these names, I saw Stu Peters tweet that out, mentioned Jake Shields. I wanted to J-Pill Jake
Shields. I had an opportunity to do so. He said that he was coming to Nashville to visit when I
lived there, and he said, "Does anybody know this at the other place to hike?" And I said,
"I know a place to hike. We'll go on a five-mile hike." And he just got swept away with people
paying $10,000 for an appearance or something in Brentwood, Tennessee, so he goes there.
But he got J-Pilled right after that. Well, now he's with SNECO and he's promoting Nick Fuentes,
and it's like, would a Jake Shields, would a Stu Peters give me as articulate or persuasive,
would they give me an opportunity? What I'm saying is we can't mix iron and clay,
right? That's the bottom of Daniel's statue, okay? We can't mix iron and clay because it's weak.
It will not coagulate, and the whole statue on top of it's going to come down.
So what I'm saying is some of these giant microphones have been selected, they've been
paid, and like I said, it's the rat poison. It's the 1% poison that kills the rat despite
the 99% truth. And some of us can see the truth. And again, it's not about me going to war with
Stu Peters. I'm happy that we move forward back to the Bill of Rights or back to constitutional
government. But guys, the ship's already sailed. This government is completely lawless. It's
absolutely lawless. And we were born into it, the Federal Reserve System. This is not our fault.
This was done before we got here. But here we are compelled to fight against it. Yet we see the
Leviathan George Washington. We see the Leviathan size of the evil government. So it's a scary
proposition to go up against it. And we need God's hand. God has got to lead us in this battle. And
if anybody wants nothing to do with the scriptures or God or Christ, well then there's no conversation
there. We have to continue to fight and they're going to have to learn some hard lessons. Thank
you, Ian, for the microphone. Nice to meet you, band. I hope you and I can talk in other venues.
Thanks. Thank you, John, for sharing that. I really appreciate it. Let's go to RGS,
a familiar face. Then we'll go to Common Sensible and Dr. Strange. And RGS, like I said,
if we could just try to keep some of these a little quick, that'd be awesome. No, I'll be quick. Can
you guys hear me all right? Yep, sure can. Oh, RG, my bad. So, Pastor, it's great to hear you. Great,
great space. And I just had two quick questions, just two quick questions about what's going on.
First one was about the Schofield Bible, because I think people are mistaken, because like the
previous speaker, he spoke about the false gospel. And I think people are misunderstood that the
Schofield Bible came out in 1913, 1912, somewhere around there. And it rewrote a lot of the gospel,
a lot of the Bible. And how do we get away from the Schofield Bible back to the King James? And
second, you were talking about the US specifically being part of a covenant with God and having
God's grace when it first began. And I believe Hebrews 8 through 10 really talk about the new
covenant. But if you could just quote on those, I would really appreciate that because I think
people are misinformed about the Bibles we actually have being the Schofield Bible,
the most popular. But I do believe with the King James. So thank you for that.
Yeah. Thanks for your comments. Again, I made a movie, The Preserved Bible. You can watch it for
free online, PreservedBible.com. It talks about the history of the Bible. I think just understanding
where the Bible comes from, hopefully that would cause people to never use a Schofield. Schofield
greatly influenced a lot of seminary preachers and brought in kind of an ideology of Zionism and kind
of made it more popular. I think really I mean the cure to dismantling this is just preaching what
the Bible says because you can't hardly even drop the Bible open and not find a passage that's
basically talking about how the Jews are subversive, evil, not following God's commandments. I mean
Jesus just in every part of the gospel is just like ripping on Jews and again that's not to say
that they're like inherently bad because of their ethnicity or something but just talking about this
group of people it's how in the world can you then reconcile this idea that they're these special
magical people and they should just be in this land of 1948 Israel like it's just the narrative
falls apart very quickly in the New Testament. I think that their movement's dying and I'm doing
my best to try and talk about Zionism a lot and and bring it to the forefront but I think we have
to have those conversations. We have to recognize what the Bible says on the Jewish subject and
you know first Thessalonians chapter two is a great passage because it says that the Jews
killed Jesus and that they're contrary to all men. You know like how do you get away from
that passage? I mean these aren't like people that we wonder if they're Jews or not they're
for sure Jews. The Bible's talking about them and so you know I think that we need people to
just start reading again and hearing the message of the King James Bible and I think that they'll
resonate with it. When it talks about when you talk about the second part of your question I
wasn't sure if I understood the question as far as can you can you restate that again like I just
want to make sure I understood what you were you're asking. Can you hear me RGS? Yes you're still
there brother. Let's while we wait for him let's let's go to the next hand I think that was a
pretty pretty good answer for some of that band and I can't recall the second part as well but
let's go I know common sensible had his hand up and then we'll go down to Dr. Strange and then
JJ and then we'll come back to to John Salisbury for a final question. Can you hear me? I just
wanted to make sure I'm not like I sure can okay I just want to make sure no thank you for asking
so uh I was just gonna make this kind of brief um you know this this is mainly topic or uh covering
the topic that somebody brought up earlier you know they were talking about with band pastor
about religion and and agnosticism and everything else like that you know I I used to think from an
agnostic and atheistic perspective in the past um honestly you end up finding out the only reason
you're even able to believe the idea of this idea of objective morality that you have is because
you've been raised and brought up in a christian society one way or another that's not to ignore
the hyper individualistic nature that a lot of jewish propaganda has created um and especially
materialistic things um but but ultimately religion plays an absolute fundamental role
in societies in in creating an ethical and moral guideline that creates structure stability
um and thriving communities and the way we really can differentiate between moral relativism and
objective morality is is what has been tried and done and the one thing i can say about
christianity in the bible despite it having a very concurrent story um compared to many other
religions that that i very much agree on like cs lewis and how he came to christianity which
if nobody knows that you know i recommend looking up cs lewis and his story he once was agnostic
and atheistic as well um but beyond that is no matter where you implement christianity or live
by bible principles like if you were to implement all the principles of the bible um it will almost
always it will give you the highest probability and highest chance of creating a thriving community
and a thriving nation and a thriving neighborhood and a thriving family with with actual unity and
stability with the most personal freedom that a religion can give you know you look at about a
lot of other religions a lot more a lot more suppressive but christianity actually has a lot
more personal freedom and with that still a strong sense of community and a still a strong sense of
family and still a strong sense of understanding the stability factors needed to create a strong
nation a strong people and a strong community and that's all i really wanted to say i mean
the agnostic and atheistic stuff i strongly feel like we'll look at it from 100 years from now and
we will just be like this was stupid of us it only created a hyper individualistic society
that was bent on materialism that only ended up self-destructing itself i would like to make on
this because i appreciate that you can at least uh be objective and and notice reality that the
bible is the most successful plan of life but i would hope that you'd go beyond just to say
it's just it's because it's true that's the reason why but i do i do believe that band pastor but i
try not to argue all the time from saying well it's because i believe it's true because i
i think some of these agnostic atheistic people they haven't gotten there yet so it's like listen
dude i can just tell you logically that it makes sense and that's why i kind of recommended the
story of c.s louis because that's how he actually came to it is he came to it over time through
logical discussions with like tolkien and other individuals that he went to oxford university
with yeah in the pursuit of truth i think you'll you'll find that and you know to me if atheism
was true i think the worst thing you could ever do is convince anybody else that it's true
because if atheism's true then the strongest are going to survive and there's no reason why your
neighbor wouldn't kill you steal from you rip you off murder you rape you so it's like convincing
other people that atheism is true would be the worst thing you could ever want if you're truly
if atheism was true and you believed it you would want everyone else to be subdued by religion
and so it's actually a self-defeating religion in a sense and so it's it's kind of crazy there's
no point in convincing people that atheism is true if you believe that it's true it would it
would literally be the worst thing you could do you'd want everybody else to not have this
secret special knowledge because the survival of the fittest is going to win and so atheism is a
completely self-refuting ideology it's it's it's it just makes you look stupid kind of because the
bible says the fool has said in his heart there is no god and we've all made stupid decisions we've
done and thought dumb things but you know people need to recognize god is evident and and that's a
good starting point and then recognizing that the bible is true so appreciate your comments yeah
yeah just to comment on that too real quick is it's just agnosticism atheism it helps breed this
hyper individualism that puts you above everything else and i think you're just again a fool if you
think you're more important than than your neighbor than your children than your spouse
than your nation i think you're an absolute fool and you only help lead to the self-destructive
nature of a society i mean one of the best things about christianity um and just in general that
religion can do is is intrusion it intrinsically provides a sense of duty and a sense of purpose
and what is your purpose in an atheistic agnostic world to live your best your best self like like
what is that other than self-serving yeah you become lovers of you you know i think this goes
directly to titus right where it talks about how or maybe it was second timothy um where people
become lovers of themselves yep second day three you're right yeah second timothy and that's
ratification of the room i heard someone earlier say he was agnostic and then later said but i
believe in a creator um you know agnosticism by definition is saying that you don't believe
or disbelieve in a creator so you're not agnostic if you believe that there's a god
you know naturally atheism doesn't even truly exist i would say so just i don't know just to
clarify on that like agnosticism doesn't go hand in hand with belief in a god you know it's a
misnomer i think what it truly is is it's a lot of people that that spout these ideas because
because of the hyper individualism of today they don't want to have something to tell them what
they can't do people want to be free of criticism they want to be free of shame they want to be
free of this guilt that might be on them so the best way for a lot of these individuals in today's
society is to just reject responsibility and say you can't judge me you can't do this you can't
say any of this and it's like no i'm sorry there are things like righteous judgment there are
things that that are critical to to understanding that you have to be guilty for you know if you
hurt somebody like whether it's your children or something else like that you need to be held
responsible whether it's spiritually or whether like mentally or whether in some other way like
that like you and not to just mention that but you're responsible for other people too
your behaviors your actions you know if you lead somebody else astray if you lead somebody
else to do something wrong you're responsible in some way to that true thanks for comments
thank you is in in ian you're still in there i am yeah and uh let's let's go to uh to dr
strange and then we'll go jj slovenist who hasn't gotten a chance to speak and then we'll go up to
john salisbury for a last question what's going on dr strange hi folks in a civil intellectual and
academic way window at hominums and labels man this is going to go so far ahead and i i urge
everybody to follow his approach because we can do so much good the way he he tackles these stuff um
with that said uh pastor i'm really sorry to hear for what you've gone through and the the way to
avenge you and try canceling you and i think you know full well i don't know your personal detail
story but i know full well that so long as you're standing on the truth and justice god is with you
and i applaud your courage uh so really appreciate for what you've done now i had two quick questions
one you were speaking with dom earlier when you said you referenced the bible verse uh related to
humans having innate goodness in them can you provide me that bible verse sure i want to make
it clear that i i was saying in roman's chapter number two um it's not really innate goodness it's
just the law is written on our hearts so we just have a conscience so we understand right from
wrong that doesn't make us necessarily good it just helps us understand like what is good and
what is bad so it's roman's chapter number two verses 14 through 15 is what i had read earlier
and again chapter number two you said yeah roman's chapter two verses 14 through 15 and um it just
describes how it's kind of contrasting jews and gentiles but it's describing how us how we no
matter if you were raised christian or not whether you've ever heard the bible or not you just know
rape's wrong you just know stealing's wrong and and doesn't mean that people don't sin still it
doesn't mean they don't still lie and do it it's just inside you feel bad when you lie inside you
feel bad when you steal and everybody feels that way when they're a child now of course the bible
does describe some people get to a point where they reject god so much they can have a seared
conscience and they get to a point where they don't even feel bad anymore if they steal lie
and it's it's very necessary uh in war in war times to convince the soldiers that the other
side is a subhuman species in order to like convince them to actually want to just murder
and slaughter them the way that many wars have gone down and so you'll actually notice whether
it's world war two world war one it doesn't matter in these war efforts that they try to really
dehumanize the other side and and again that's why i believe the religion of talmudic judaism
it's important to understand that they dehumanize gentiles to make it seem justified that they can
rip them off through usury um they can promote all kinds of filth isms whether that's atheism
marxism um communism all these different things and do horrible atrocities because they look at us
like an animal and i mean here's the thing we slaughter animals like it's nothing and
eat their food and and it's good like you know i eat a steak every day and i feel good not every
day but every day i eat a steak i'm like i have no guilt about the fact that an animal is slaughtered
because it is an animal i'm not saying we should treat animals poorly i'm not saying that we should
be mean to them but they are simply different than a human and it's necessary for uh people
to have to dehumanize other humans because of that innate conscience that we all have
and we have that innate responsibility and we're going to be judged by that we're going to be
judged by since we do know right from wrong how did you respond to that now ultimately that doesn't
get you into heaven or hell because we've all sinned so the bible says that we have to believe on
the lord jesus christ and accept his atonement for our sin that's what actually gets us entrance into
heaven but we will face consequences in this earth based on our action and if if you just
do horrible evil things god will punish you in fact the first command with promise is the honor
thy father my mother and that's what actually gives us a long life so the more obedient you are to
your parents the the longer life you're going to live and that's just that's just a reality it's
not about everybody wants to think it's like about micro plastics and and and foods and genetic you
know genetically modified organisms and all this stuff and like i'm i'm not against warning people
about that and i think there is a lot of contaminants in our food and i think there's
a lot of horrible things that people are doing and i think we should stand up against them
but honestly people are going to live a long life because they follow god's commandments
not because they avoided all the the the horrible things that they're putting in our food
and so you know i think so many people are so hyper focused on the car aspect yeah i appreciate
that i mean this is music to my ears so i embraced islam a long time ago and they have this the same
concept that you just mentioned about knowing that right from wrong it's in chapter 30 verse 30
where they speak about this in addition i want to make a small correction regarding islam
believing in good works versus faith actually it's it's both you can't have one without the
other in islam you can't have without faith your good words your good works are not worth much
there is some nuance nuance around it but it is it's really both that you need and lastly i'm
really interested in better understanding christian theology especially what you said about success in
this world and how you correlated it to being on the right path you gave the example of christian
orthodoxy in the uh i guess in the in the east and then how and then you showcase it compared
it with the u.s and the u.s's success um if you can provide me some additional information on that
i'd appreciate it you don't have to do that now i've followed you if you can send me some
information via text or dm i really appreciate it and i hold periodic spaces to promote better
understanding of christianity and islam to the general public which includes muslims and christians
i'd love to have you be part of that especially on these specific topics because i think
there's so much we can learn the more i've learned about christianity the better appreciation i've
had for it because there is a sadly enough there is a lack of understanding amongst um these
different faiths and there are many similarities yet also differences thank you so much for hosting
this space i'll end with that but appreciate it good good points and and yeah i do agree that
islam teaches us both um i guess the distinction i was trying to make was between faith and works
is necessary versus just faith alone so you know i would say that of course in islam you have to
believe that allah is god and you have to subscribe to the religion of islam for your martyrdom or
any of those different things to account for you so you're absolutely right on that um dm me and
i'll try to follow up with you on uh some of that information so thanks for your comments thank you
thank you so much for that dr strange let's go to uh to jj and then slovenist and then lastly we'll
go back up to john salsbury uh band pastor thanks for having this space i really think you probably
should have more of them it's very positive uh my you know the the title of your group uh discussion
is the bible's influence on modern culture well obviously the bible has had a very positive
influence on america uh people that are saved make good citizens and you know i don't think
you really can have a republic without without a godly people and i think that's why we're having
all the problems that we're having now but uh i just had a couple questions uh what's your
position on eternal security i believe and uh hallelujah uh what's your position on the uh the
rapture so i used to be pre-trib growing up but i ended up changing my position so i believe in
what i would describe is called a post-tribulation pre-wrath rapture and so um uh it's not necessarily
a position that's put out there very often but there's a film by pastor anderson called after
the tribulation i think um if you want to understand my position that documentary really
explains it well yeah i've actually watched that documentary uh my wife actually was saved
watching one of his videos uh and i think it's really important that uh i'll go ahead and sign
off here that you give people an invitation you know to explain to them how they can be saved
and i'll with that i'll say i do thanks jj i agree very much thank you jj and uh let's go over to uh
to slovenist and then we'll go back up to john so hey guys hey so you say i'm sorry i can't uh
i can't hear you so i'm going to cycle you again slovenist and just in case i'm going to cycle
john as well um john if you can come back up and slovenist if you can as well i'll send those uh
speaker invites hopefully this will fix it yeah do you hear me now i sure do thank you for that
thank you okay hey ian and hey guys so uh i know now the theme is about bible and christianity but
i would just like to go back to holland more you know ian because you said that russian did the
genocide this is the same like we would say that americans did genocide uh genocide what they did
in the war like uh in in vietnam let's say or in iraq it was not the americans it was the jew also
because the jews sent the jews who controls america sent white americans to kill for them
but that time people didn't understand that thank god people understand now that and the same was
with russia and also today in this war in ukraine between ukraine and russia it's the same
you have jews on both sides so ukraine is jewish government and russia is also totally jewish
government um i don't know if you know that but putin is a jew did you know that his mother is
called maria shalomova so he's definitely got a picture at the wall with the little hat on
exactly he has a white hat on exactly so not only that if you know the jewish mentality
you know that they were never left a gentel going to be on the so high position it's just not
possible it would not be also i mean also sergio lawrow he's also jew you have to know he is
totally jewish by mother and father so russian government is totally jewish i have to say that
because most of people don't know that so two russian sites i mean two jewish sites are sending
white people to kill each other so it's white genocide from the jews again i would like also
mention the kiril so the patriarch of the russian church we are coming to christianity now he is
also jew so he's not russian he's totally jewish by mother and father his grandmother was called
vexelman this is totally jewish name yeah so think about that guys also i don't if you know about
pope francis the pope of vatican he is also jewish do you know that probably no someone no so not
with uh out of curiosity um pastor i have to ask you about this um the the pope has been radically
different uh from his predecessor who was radically different from just about all of his
predecessors for at this point decades um that's a pretty big allegation that was just made and i
i don't have anything to base that off on um i'd be curious if you've heard something similar if
you believe something similar i mean to say the current pope is of the catholic church is jewish
is a very strong allegation so i'd like maybe to offer you the chance to comment specifically on
on that one and then maybe you can comment on some of the additional points made about russia and
other places um as a follow-up sure uh i would say initially i have i have no evidence of the
fact that the pope is jewish i don't know i would i would say that i'm not i would have to research
that i would be maybe skeptical of that because i'm but i'm not sure i know you know some previous
popes have been pretty bad too um ratzinger was a pretty rough uh a pope but again i i'm against
all popes because the word pope is like coming from the word father and jesus literally said call no
man father upon the earth and so they're literally in violation of what jesus clearly said so
these people are always in the opposition of the bible um i do think that uh obviously there's
influence i didn't know um i don't know anything about putin being jewish i just know that i've
seen him at the wailing wall with the little hat on and it wouldn't surprise me that there's still
a large jewish contingent in russia because with the bolshevik revolution they installed a
completely jewish government now does that mean that every single person in those positions was
jewish no i don't think stalin was jewish but at what point you have to ask this question like at
what point in human history did russia stop that particular political system in control obviously
they fell at one point but i don't think we've seen them being replaced or taken a new form of
leadership here so i would just have to say like it still seems like it's it's massively controlled
by jewish individuals whether whether or not they're ethnically or religious i don't know
i'm not an expert on russia you know as far as their internal politics like i don't know the
people that are in charge but it wouldn't surprise me or shock me if the vast majority of them are
jewish i kind of i kind of view that as well but i mean obviously we have a jewish president of
mexico um zelinski's also a jew we have uh you know some people that are related to or um i think
married to i think that what is the prime minister of uk uh i think he's married to a jew i believe
and so prime minister of ireland also he's also a jewish harrison harrison harrison oh harrison okay
yeah and ford's worth and it's it's uh it's either jewish or married to a jew includes venezuela panama
el salvador mexico argentina i mean the list goes on and on and on and like you said ukraine
russia the united kingdom ireland uh it's it's just it's preposterous and to back up your point
um pastor that you're saying when it comes to the wealth this was a crazy statistic um so it's 33
percent of the 100 richest americans and 34 percent of the richest uh russians are are all jewish so
it's just a unbelievably high over representation each one of those about 15x what you would expect
if it was a normalized distribution well it's just what jordan peterson said they just have a 20
point iq advantage over us so that's well well and on the iq one so so i'll add i don't know
if everybody's seen it that's in the space but i actually went through and because i'm a huge
nerd i did the math around the iq piece and even if we were to give them their supposed iq advantage
because there's so few of them if positions of power were normalized based on intelligence
you should see a 6x over representation of whites to jews based on the number of individuals that
would have iq north of 135 so for anybody listening that's a it's a nonsensical justification anytime
anyone throws it out there including jordan peterson just know that he's full of shit or
completely uninformed on the issue guys it is because of it is because of tribe the meaning of
way of life you know also the jews i don't know if you know the definition of energy not not the
energy of cows this is the definition which the jews are promoting because the jews are living
by energy by energy law what means that by the law as ants so every jew knows what he has to do
so there is not one uh how say the main jew in the world you have many jews who has power
so the ants are living like that so this is anarchy you know each one knows what have to
have to do and nepotism nepotism a meaning of that they will always choose a jew it doesn't mean
it doesn't matter if this jew is 10 uh points uh stupider than a white guy he will choose a jew
because he is a jew and that's it and also accumulation of power and money but i mean money
they have they're just putting the number in the computer over fat but i have one question for
pastor if i can yeah just because he said that he doesn't believe in race um so tell me pastor if
you don't believe in race then you have no problem if like 50 millions of chinese come to usa i mean
christian chinese because you have in china a lot of million of christians and they're prosecuted
in china yeah if you don't believe in race yeah yeah i'll answer that number one race is for sure
doesn't exist because if you take a black person a white person and they have a baby what race is it
but i mean the thing is like i don't want to import chinese people into america um just to import
them but at the end of the day if someone lived in china that believes exactly like i do and they
had the opportunity to either marry someone or have a job in this country and we had proper legal
protocols then i would have nothing against them migrating to our country the problem with migration
mostly is that we're giving handouts we should give zero handouts to someone migrating to our
country or visiting our country they should have to pay to enter our country and they should either
be having a purpose they need to be either being married to someone or having a job and if companies
don't want to hire those individuals because they're not effective in the workforce then you know
they have to stay and they're part of the region of the world i think that that should be our
immigration policy and and that's what we have had in the past we've only let the best and brightest
come here on a purpose and it didn't really stop america from being america but when you import
large factions of people based on nothing giving them handouts you kind of go back to what n said
earlier about you're sinking a ship we have limited resources we can't just let everybody
get in the boat just because you can't fit all eight billion people in america just because we're
we're doing better and if you brought all eight billion people we wouldn't do be better but again
but then i have chinese you know what church and i like them so you're a christian yeah you're
christian what pastor okay so i mean by the christian if if i'm not mistaken by this christian
dogma every christian is your brother or not so it would be not uh i'm choosing the right words
you know so it would not probably not right if you say no to chinese christian to come to america
normally you should say call my brothers well yeah but here's the thing i i have a lot of
people in my church that are my christian brothers and sisters in christ but they're not welcome to
live in my house so we have to have personal boundaries and personal property and the reality
is just because someone might be my brother in christ in africa or australia or china does not
yeah but they're prosecuted in china i told you they are prosecuted in china the christians are
prosecuted in china yeah because of that i exactly because of that i mentioned chinese so would you
help chinese 50 million chinese to come u.s.a christian chinese to help them that was my question
you see if if 50 million 50 million is probably too many people to just import into a country
no matter what the circumstances are but again i have no problem with with migrants you would let
them to die there in china well what do you mean let them die yes and slovenist i don't think
just to um pull this off of pastor entirely uh what he's suggesting is that you can't just bring
in massive chunks of people without other ramifications and impacts and and i think
unfortunately if uh back to the analogy of the ships right if people are going to die in the
water and they're going to drown or you can bring them onto a boat but by bringing them onto the
boat it sinks the boat that you're bringing them onto and then kills all the 350 million people
currently on the boat it's unfortunate to say well 50 million is less than 350 million so they're
going to have to suffer that's just a calculation that at some point you have to make if you want
the world to be able to be a little bit more sustainable right i will expect if there's 50
million let me let me explain it one second and i'll let you go back if there's 50 million chinese
people drowning in the sea right now i can't rescue all of them i would have to pick and i'm
not against pulling one of them out of the the ocean and rescuing them but i physically can't
save 50 million people in a boat you know so like if if there's 50 million people in china
how are you going to transport all those people where are you going to put them where are they
going to live like how is me bringing them into america magically going to give them
a sustainable life anyways i could i could drag them all the way across this country and then put
them on the street and they have no job nowhere to live no spouse no anything they're going to
die in poverty here why is that even necessarily better you have to have sustainability of a
country in a nation and you have personal property and borders and like i'll go over there and i'll
give them the gospel and i'll love these people and i have chinese people in my church and i'm
pro them but your scenario is an unrealistic scenario for everyone so pastor neil my point
was that a pastor said he doesn't believe in race so i literally i mean i personally i was
baptizing catholic when i was 21 years old i went out i had like two three hours monologue with the
priest um he was shocked of my information what i had he asked me like five times how old i am
where did where did i get information on the end he just put the hands up together and say come
come tomorrow i will give you the the uh the i say the paper just second i said yeah i've never
understood why this is a complex subject ashes demographic shift and clash of cultures is going
to eliminate the very prospect of this country that allow or what people want to come to in
the first place yeah i couldn't agree with you prioritize prioritize that over like stability
well and it it's it's self-sacrificing and and ultimately self-defeating um and it's it's so
bizarre because and i've said this on spaces in the past i mean i've i had argued red team blue
team politics for a long time before starting to uncover the the real issue and puppet master
and i i on the immigration thing i always the thing that's been most frustrating about it is
the realities and repercussions that we're seeing today of the changes in culture the changes and
drastic increases in poverty and it's not just immigration with people coming in it's also h1d
work visas and quote unquote legal migration and it's also the offshoring of all manufacturing
essentially and all technology jobs that can be done remotely we are seeing the complete destruction
of the middle class we're seeing the the over abundance of people looking for housing in every
single metro area across the entire country which means that housing prices are going up schools are
getting flooded i mean i could tell you that there are schools in every metro area in the
united states where they have entire schools that are almost 100 esl english is the second language
with individuals that do not speak a lick of english and they're they're being expected to
learn second third fourth fifth all the way up through eighth grade and high school educations
and these schools are filled with individuals that have reading comprehension levels of
kindergartners and and why is the american taxpayer being forced to subsidize this system
that is is um i would say it's unjust and it's immoral because it's putting an undue burden on
the people that were here in the first place and it's doing so at the justification of being
generous uh with quote-unquote prosperity but the obvious reality is it destroys the prosperity of
the people who have been here and it's why i believe that the politicians that were behind this
the entire goal of it was to basically second world the united states and they want to do
this globally they want to take all first world nations bring them down all third world nations
bring them up and then you can usher in the quote-unquote new world order or essentially
zionism that's all going to be run out of the only first world that would be left which is going to
be the greater israel or at least that's their vision and the thing that's so frustrating is
i've been making these points on immigration going back forever and even today where you see the
results the ramifications of that flawed policy even now in spite of the fact that something like
50 to 60 percent of americans don't have 400 dollars of emergency cash to be able to pay for
a medical emergency a food emergency an issue with their children we're still hearing the same
cries that we have to do it based on humanitarian issues and now the only thing that they've
changed is they've said that they're quote-unquote refugees that are fleeing from all sorts of
disastrous situations it's it's grotesque it's pathetic and like i said the only thing is
compared to my my prior position is that now i realize that it's it's being accommodated by
both sides the left says it's a humanitarian issue the right says hey free market economics bro
and both of them are being funded by the same organization that funds hias and all these other
largely jewish non-profits that are funneling these people in here so it's just it's so frustrating
that even when you see the realities and the results of this flawed ideology the same people
making arguments for them they continue right on and it's just don't believe your lying eyes
to all the people that realize what's going on so sorry for the rant there but let's go over to
to John Salisbury but let's first give pastor a chance to respond to that little tangent that I
went down. Well there's nothing wrong with benevolence but it shouldn't be forced benevolence
it should be under the ability of free will and we should compel people to be benevolent because
of the goodness of their heart and because they have the money not forcibly take it from
individuals and just you know one point to add they're not only just taking this money and giving
it to immigrants they're actually taking all this money and giving it to themselves and then giving
nothing to the immigrants as well so you know they really are you know a lot of this benevolence is
fake and they're on the take and they give all this humanitarian aid to these African countries
and if people really understand what happens is you have Bill and Melinda Gates and all these
organizations they're just tax shields and then they give all this money to an African nation
and then they go to a guest speaker and then they pay them with the money that they gave them and
they just like it's a constant funneling system of just like giving themselves money lobbying efforts
power influence tax shields moving money off shores human trafficking smuggling like none of
it's actually benevolent all these people are fake they don't really care about people but they have
to pretend they care and both sides definitely are fake on that point so i mean very absolutely
points yeah and it's just i mean i just saw out of california they're now offering up to 150
dollar housing stipends for illegals because quote unquote housing is too expensive and it's
like wait a second so your citizen that's been living in california that is now 25 30 years old
that spent their entire life there and can't afford housing because there's massive demand
which is largely artificial in the sense that it's been it's been increased as a result of
increased population which has been due to illegal migrants coming into you know nation
or states like california and now your solution is to say to the illegals that are here in
addition to all the other freebies that they're being given oh we'll also help you buy a home
because it's too expensive while little johnny who's been living there his entire life is
completely screwed and not only is he screwed because he can't afford the housing but his tax
dollars and and via inflation his wealth is the piece that's being used to pay for the migrants
it's it's utter insanity and and what drives me craziest and again tangent but they then say that
we need to look at things like reparations which again we talked about earlier that slavery was
largely a jewish installation and it's like okay so now you're giving housing you're giving food
you're giving financial incentives like raw cash to these illegal migrants you're now going to help
them with with this home by giving them money to do so and you now want to tax the white middle
class any wealth that they have left to repay blacks reparations for saying they had absolutely
nothing to do with well the richest of the rich who if we look at wealth distribution it's something
like 130 the average american wealth is is held by jewish individuals they are the top of the
income bracket those individuals are all going to use those tax shields like you mentioned to make
sure that they're not hit at all by the very thing that we as we discussed earlier that they were
largely responsible for the creation of so it's just it's literally okay let's look at reparations
and to repay the the former slaves by enslaving the white middle class and taking the last of
their wealth to give to somebody else it's just utter insanity so let's go to john and then we'll
go to daniel um and we do have a couple more requests so what i'll do is instead of uh
instead of turning folks down why don't we just try to be really tight here john and then daniel
and then titus and that way everybody gets one little question here sure thanks ian and uh and
uh yeah just one final thought and more of a long-term question for the pastor and for ian
and i feel like i'm kind of you know i'm kind of just getting involved in this group but per ian
ian has totally brought me in and helped me to understand and refocus my talents and my thoughts
on helping to revive Christianity and communities of faith at a local level and and i just would ask
ian and the pastor and everybody in this that's listening in this group are are we going in a good
direction or are we using this these spaces platforms well to be able to and i think we are
to be able to to discuss these issues you know i couldn't help but this last speaker was talking
about well let's bring in a bunch of 50 million chinese well what about the 50 million homeless
people on the streets in america if if we're going to start saving people maybe we should
start saving those people first and lifting up our communities and and i'm hoping that so the
question is is can we start using these spaces to inform people so they can go out into their
communities and be thought leaders as far as re-standing up the faith-based communities that
were so strong and and built america and uh you know i can't help but think with ian's little
rant there uh they're taking the resources the capabilities and the decision making out of
christian men and women's hands that's what basically all of this uh anarchy that's being
focused on our local communities is so so as as these spaces go can we use them and then how can
we take that type of focus and start putting it out into our communities and start talking with
other people to to get um information out that number one no it's not hopeless and number two
yes there are many things we can do about it and all of it revolves around our faith and our belief
right is that is that making some sense and thank you so much for this space
and i'll be watching i've got the pastor on notification now and of course i've got
ian on notification thanks thanks for your comments uh and and i really appreciate the things you said
and i think you're on the right track i do want to clean up a few things you said though or add
add kind of a suggestive comment because there's not 50 million homeless people in america
according to 2023 statistics there's only 650 000 homeless people in america and you know i think
that there's a difference between homeless people in america and a lot of people suffering in these
foreign countries because these people suffering in foreign countries are suffering at the hands of
communism and totalitarian regimes whereas the homeless people in our country are mostly just
drug addicted god-hating weirdos and they you know again i'm not saying that i'm not sympathetic
towards homeless people because i spent two years dedicated to preaching in homeless shelters and
preaching the bible to them and i've tried to give them the gospel but i'm not going to lie to you
and say that this group of people isn't filled with a lot of issues and the bible even says
explicitly in first thesilonians i'm sorry second thesilonians chapter three it says if a man will
not work neither should he eat and it actually forbids the christian church from feeding homeless
people and if we actually stopped feeding homeless people and giving them money then they would be
forced to get back into society in many cases and so you know i think that a lot of fake churches
have made the homeless situation worse because they don't really agree with what the bible says
on this and they're so focused on giving somebody a sandwich even though that person's going to die
and go to hell because they didn't end up believing the gospel and the most important thing is giving
somebody the gospel and and teaching them how to be saved and that they need to actually work hard
and they're going to be responsible for their actions. When you brought up this question about
spaces I think that this is a great tool but the only thing that matters is if we say things that
are true and accurate and and I think that we all need to be extremely careful the way that we
communicate that we're using facts that that we use meekness and we're humble about our approach
and I'm not saying that I'm great at this because I sure need a lot of work in this area too but
I want to try to get the truth out there and and I've just I've heard so many lies and I think one
of the biggest issues for me is I just I don't see a lot of people I respect and having good
opinions being willing to get out there and into these areas and have these conversations
they want to keep themselves sanitized from the world and and I think that we need to try our best
to get out there and and put our viewpoints out there and communicate and of course I've been
banned a lot I mean I'm all for getting the message out there it's difficult it's difficult
when you have a lot of the stances and viewpoints I have to reach a big audience and so I really
appreciate Ian and and other individuals that are willing to have a conversation with me
even if they don't agree with me even if they're not a Christian even they're not a Baptist
you know I have a podcast called the Baptist Bias but I bring so many guests on our show
that aren't even a Baptist and you know I'm trying to engage the world have conversations have heated
discussions have debates have you know whatever it is to get the information out there and I think
that we all need to have some boldness to preach the truth to preach the gospel and and confront
people on ideologies but not in a combative way but rather in a in a confident but yet humble
approach and so you know I hope that that kind of answers your question I'll let in Ian give his
opinion on there too you know I I regretfully I didn't jump in because I we've been moving
speakers around so much I actually I was not able to hear any of it could could you give me
maybe like a 15 second recap pastor and then then I'll address that sure I just I kind of
addressed the idea of like let us use the spaces that we have in these these areas to communicate
truth and kind of humbleness and and meekness and being confident but you know getting out there
and actually having the conversations. I think that you know even if you aren't necessarily the
same as me as far as like belief system or even if there's people out there that aren't a Baptist
or whatever I still want to have those conversations and you know I have a podcast the Baptist Bias I
don't just bring on Baptist on the show I bring all kinds of people on and I want to have those
conversations and and put the information out there as a way to change the culture for the
better. I couldn't agree with you more on that one pastor and I sincerely believe two things number
one that truth should never fear discussion right it shouldn't fear inquiry or questions
and as a result we should always speak it even with individuals that we disagree on and like
I said before with you and for example Dom obviously had different opinions on things
but their opinions and we should be free to speak opinions to inject truth and what I find so curious
is when individuals and I there's actually a individual who commented he said Ian you're late
for your KKK meeting on a post that I had put up where I asked if the origins of communism were
Jewish and if the first implementation of communism in Russia was overwhelmingly led by Jews and that
was the person's response and my point is that they use those ad hominems and they use things
like hate speech and anti-semitism or racism all these things they are shields to make us
self-censor so that we are fearful to discuss certain topics. I did a thread on black crime
in America and I looked at what percentage of crime is committed by blacks of the crime that's
committed by blacks which of it is committed by individuals that are 13 to 33 and are male
within the black community and it's it's almost I don't want to say it's almost all of it but
it's a disproportionately high majority of it and so what does that mean well that means that
of the 13 percent of Americans that are black that let's say half of them so that'd be six and a half
percent are male and of that about a third so let's say a little more than two percent of the
nation fit into that that bucket of that age that are male that are black and so you have roughly
about two percent of the nation committing over half of the violent crimes and I went into gun
statistics I went into things like sexual assault carjackings etc and that thread which was all
purely based on factual data from the CIA FBI data police data that was was available etc it
also looked at things like IQ and temperament that's not at all designed to be offensive to
anybody but it's merely factual and the fact that most of the responses were this is racist or you're
a bigot or go find the kid or whatever it was right it's because individuals don't want to
discuss truth they instead want to use ad hominems and other emotionally charged words to get us to
stop discussing uncomfortable realities and we have to around religion around over representations
in crime over representations amongst power whatever the situation might be i think it's
invaluable that we do that and then to the second piece that we do it non-violently non-hatefully
we just allow the data whether it's historical or present to help us understand where we are and
where we will go in the future if we do not address some of these realities when it comes
to for example black crime what is the fact that 80 plus percent of black children are being born
into a single-parent household what does that mean what does the statistics tell us is the
trajectory of those individuals why are we seeing this normalized across across hispanics across
whites across asians why is that graph demographic increasing across every one of those groups and
obviously the answer is because we are seeing a shift in the culture and so the comments the
pastor made we have to reject that we can't reject if we can't even discuss those realities
and so when you hear people say racism sexism other kind of isms that often have their roots
in kind of jewish ideologies stand straight folks stand straight up stand tall stand proud
speak truths and ask them boldly say look i've just given you data how is the data hateful
because the answer is it's not and when you force somebody to address that the thing that's always
going to happen i can almost guarantee you is they're going to get more hostile they're going
to get more emotional they're going to become unhinged because they can't put up with somebody
that can peacefully articulate uncomfortable truths and when they get more emotionally unhinged
anyone that's watching and witnessing they're going to understand why and they're going to
say to themselves you know what i think that guy has a point so we need to speak these truths always
and with that let's go to another question and i know that we had daniel up here so sorry for that
long-winded response but in the interest of time let's go daniel fun titus and then gasmas and if
we could keep everybody really really tight with the questions and we'll let the pastor respond
hey ian ian ian real quick on on what you just said right now this is fun studio i was going
to just ask you just to go on to what you just said so like with all these crime statistics
and and and and what we know about redlining and and all the equalities that been going on
and and the fact that the crime is going on more within the black communities a lot of these crimes
like domestic violence has been that's been weaponized uh work against mostly black people
are being charged with like mostly domestic crimes it's either white it was dating a white
girl and then she got pissed off and we went and made a false claim that's how i got a felony
it was all fake but but what i'm saying is like the the way things have been set up with the red
lining and and only white people able to buy properties in the 1800s those properties which
are now turning into the wealth that most of the majority of white folks are and then you've got
these black folks who've been kind of put in these scenarios in these ghetto scenarios all of this is
by design though right you agree with that it's not like that the people themselves are kind of
prone to going and committing crimes right well i mean this is a complicated issue and this could
require its own space i'd be happy to do that um i don't want to take up or monopolize too much of
the pastor's time especially as we're winding down but what i would say is i do believe there's a
couple things number one when it comes to disproportionate opportunity we could look
at things like wealth inequities that go back quite some time on wealth what you might find
interesting is if we look at the average income of your average american whites are barely above
the average now most people don't realize that they think whites have all this wealth monopolized
it's it's it's frankly untrue what what often happens though is whites that are outside of
major metro areas they are the forgotten people the people of of states like ohio of michigan
wisconsin west virginia the appalachian whites they have nothing and they also get no support
from the federal government nobody talks about them nobody cares they are left behind whether
it's the rust belt or like i said those appalachian whites they are or you could actually go down
south and you could go into folks in like the panhandle of western florida you could look at
louisiana they have nothing nobody cares nobody talks about them because no no one wants to have
the uncomfortable conversation that whites just like everybody else are becoming drastically poor
like i said if you look at the average income then of jews it's drastically higher than even
the second highest of incomes we're talking massive magnitudes of wealth and this was the
exact same thing that was seen in weimar germany in fact where jews in germany at that time had 300
percent the income of your average uh german and so these are uncomfortable realities now amongst
those impoverished individuals what i can also tell you is the richest blacks commit more violent
crime by multiples than the poorest whites in america i've got a graphic that i can share with
you that that demonstrates that um now that does not say that there's you know that blacks are
inherently bad or anything along those lines but we could look at things like uh studies done into
iq where uh average your average african-american iq is something between about 80 and 85 whereas
your average american white iq is about 100 to 110 that's a huge difference um if you look at
temperaments the tendencies to aggression to violence um and the other big piece and this
is a result of iq i believe this is my hypothesis the idea of a time horizon and so what does that
mean i was talking about this with a guy named hitch who all he focuses on is iq on x i'm trying
to do a space with him the idea of a time horizon a police officer pulls somebody over you've got a
white guy and you've got a black guy the white guy with the higher iq is more able in a very short
period of time to process the the short mid and long term consequences of their action so what does
that mean they sit there and they see the police lights go on and they say well shit i had two beers
i might be over the legal limit but if i run away and i get caught i'm going to have a way worse
problem than if i than if i just pull over and i deal with the situation at hand for somebody
with a lower iq that's a harder mental gymnastics to process their ability is to focus more on the
short term so what is someone that only looks at the short term say well shit i need to get away
from the situation i can't get pulled over so the white person might pull the side of the road the
black person might slam on the gas pedal and now they've got a very different scenario now that's
just a microcosm for this entire ideology around short mid and long term time horizons same thing
with michael brown if everybody remembers him he had robbed a convenience store was walking down
the street the police officer pulls up they put on the lights what did the guy do he got violent
now the reason he got violent because he did not want to accept the consequences potentially i can't
be inside his mind but of robbing that convenience store and then we all know how that story went so
these are very complex scenarios we have to take them into consideration i'm not undermining the
fact that blacks have had different historical challenges but i do think that they're very
realistic internal components that differentiate blacks and whites in america doesn't mean there
aren't very smart blacks and very dumb whites there certainly are but like i said those violent
tendencies the crime statistics in particular amongst the poorest of whites and the richest
of blacks it does create a pretty stark uh dynamic between the two and those drastic
differences mean that we need to need to think through those things i say that with no hostility
towards the blacks in america or anywhere in the world for that matter but there are honest
conversations that just like i was saying whether it's around jews communism blacks
immigration etc we have to just be really reasoned and measured with how we approach these things so
i hope so can you book that can you book that that space for that i think this is very important
because you'll find like me i'm an african from africa came to the u.s illegal and i still sit in
all your spaces and i kind of understand and i hear the narrative but i see the bigger picture
the bigger picture is fucking jews right so i see that and there's a few intelligent open-minded
black people that girl casey and a few other people who sit in these spaces and the conversation
is is not you guys are not toning it down right you just straight up with whatever you got to say
and there's some blacks that will sit in the space and hear it and then it's what it does it
turns out the hurt what we want to do is we want to have this conversation but also make it sound
welcoming and make always obvious the fact that we have one common enemy and we are not the enemy
and then we can discuss all of these other minor things so another thing i was going to say because
i lived in the u.s illegally for over 25 years i got pulled over by the by the by the local police
i license plate out was like a license plate out light was out it ended up leading to me to me
being arrested for the weekend these guys called the the homeland security on me while i was in
detention and homeland security put a hold on me so i spent time in the immigration detention center
in el paso texas 31 days and i will tell you the truth i don't think any twitter space has had an
immigrant who has been fighting deportation and came on these spaces and told you guys the real
truth so this is all this this whole immigration deal detention of migrants they they can solve
the problem but they want to monetize the problem all your detention centers around the country the
southwest are all privately owned privately run and you will find there's like six u.s immigration
officers who are just watching over the the the facility right so all these that's what the biggest
push is if you look at the stock for the uh detention immigration detention it has collapsed
to almost nothing right now right and then aside from that part is that my when i came here legally
i could not vote that is like the biggest lie ever if there's so many connecting dots you need
to connect right the only way you can scam the system is if my name is jose padilla and i find
a an american jose padilla and we swap uh use each other's id that way yes but you can't register
to vote and you can still benefit right it's impossible there's so many connecting dots that
they need can we say let me explain i'm telling you the truth because i've been through this stuff i
just want to put clarity so like the prostitute said let's talk about this stuff and be honest
i'm just trying to destroy every narrative that the americans have been carrying
about immigration give me a second i won't take long so fun we can we can have that in a
another conversation i don't want to monopolize okay time and we need to wrap this up so i'm
trying to be respectful of that i thought you know i just want to make a few quick comments on this
because number one if you enter the country illegally i would hope that the person can't
vote because that that just makes common sense additionally i have strong opinions on on this
topic and i i don't want to undermine any of the points that you made uh ian because i think that
everything you're saying is true about the iq and i have a strong opinion of why that's true
but here's the thing i don't think dumb people are bad people and i don't think that poor people
are bad people i have friends and i've been to chicago houston the bahamas jamaica uk and uganda
and if you meet a black person from chicago houston bahamas jamaica uk and uganda these
people are not the same people the the difference in in america is a cultural issue and if you look
at the 1960s there was a major departure of fathers in the home in the black community
additionally you have the hollywood media organizations hiring a lot of degenerate
black people to promote the rap music and the thug culture which has really caused the huge
issues in america if you go to jamaica if you go to the bahamas most of these people are some of
the nicest people you've ever met very safe but you go into inner city chicago you go into the
inner cities of houston it feels extremely dangerous i my church is literally in a
predominantly black area and the reason why is because it's more affordable and they're
actually really receptive to the gospel i love black people i have black people in my church
and you know let's be honest black people were selectively bred through slavery for
hundreds of years to be the biggest strongest tallest fastest that's why they're all basically
the the linebackers and the greatest football players and and they they're basketball players
because they were selectively bred for that purpose not for their intelligence that doesn't
mean that that makes them bad people or anything like that but that's the reason why the american
black people are so tall so big so strong generally speaking additionally many of them
came from africa african tribes they thrived on physical genetics as being a major component
to their survival that's why they were they're selectively bred that particular way in america
and and you know in europe people have to survive by creating farms and ingenuity so that kind of
bolsters the the necessary component of iq but just because you're smarter does not mean you'll
be a good person just because you're richer doesn't mean you'll be a good person it's it's
a lot more about having a father in the home it's about christianity it's about being taught good
morals and let's just be honest the black community their churches are filled with a lot of fakes in
fact there's a huge church near me that has a big blm poster on it these people are fakes phonies
taking advantage of the black people ripping them off just like many of the rappers i mean drake's
jewish if you if you know that but it's like these people are being taken advantage of and ripped off
by a ideology and and if we want to reach the black people if we love them we would come alongside
them and teach them the gospel and and try to help them to educate themselves because they need
education they need to take responsibility for their actions they need to reject rap music
and and the culture and they need to recognize that police aren't going around killing black
people indiscriminately in fact more young black men die in swimming pools than they do from cops
and that's just facts but you know again if we're going to solve these problems we have to realize
i believe that the jews want the blacks to be the the problem and for people to focus on that
because then it distracts from what they're doing and who they are and so again i i would love to
comment in that other space as well because i have strongly held opinions and viewpoints on this and
i've actually thought about this quite a bit and so um you know and again i like i said i love black
people i i love jamaicans i love bahamians and i i love houston people and chicago people and i'm
not against anybody but we need to be honest with them and say look you need to pull up your pants
get a belt stop listening to rap music get a job work hard educate yourself go to church read
the bible that's what's going to fix the black community not reparations that will destroy them
even more so you know that the the whole puff daddy situation with clive davis is that clive
davis gave puff daddy power and puff daddy is the one who ran this direction of hip-hop i think
we're probably going to continue down a tangent that we could just go forever so let's let's do
that in another space so that we can wrap this up i've got to close this down the next couple
minutes there's a lot of other folks that have been asking for questions so i appreciate if we
can do that and and let's go to uh let's go to daniel so that he can get a word in and i would
add that uh just personally speaking i couldn't agree with what the pastor said more i think
there's a drastic difference if you go and you actually spend time with blacks in particular
outside of the united states the the i've heard actually and you can you can do this next time
you get into an uber or you come across somebody in some kind of social setting where you're able
to have a conversation with somebody that's actually an african migrant ask them their
thoughts on black american culture they will lambast it more than i ever would they will say
that they think it's atrocious they don't understand it they can't relate to it etc
and so i think we should be we should be very clear about that and that has that has no impact
um on things though that are that are genetic tendencies like we were saying with iq and other
things those are just they're just realities of the world we have to address them we have to
take them through but that doesn't mean that i have any animosity towards anyone based on their
skin color things of that nature so let's go to uh let's go to titus or actually daniel i think
what's next yeah yeah i think we just experienced a reinforcement of the uh impulse control thing
you were talking about um the uh i'd like to start off just uh the pastor there you know like what
you're saying about feeding the homeless uh i agree 100 and when they talk about you know giving
to the poor i think that's more on the lines of uh let's lift people up that are poor because the
poor are just struggling uh homeless people are people that have just given up and and and and
depend on that uh to keep them living in the way that they live um uh the other the other thing um
i was gonna ask is uh ian or pastor have you got either of you guys heard of the uh los angeles
declaration of uh uh los angeles declaration on migration and protection no i'm not familiar with
it um i'll share some screenshots in the comment section when i'm done talking so you can look at
some of that but in 22 uh if you pull it up and just read the first paragraph basically it's it's
we entered into a contract with south you know central and south america um to create the
pathways for safe irregular migration into our country um to set up international funding to
encourage all of this um and part of the whole deception thing is that all these people that are
running and blaming the other side and back and forth and everything not a single person that's
running has talked about the fact that basically we entered into an agreement you know and language
of law has uh has uh you know certain certain things that you know you're you're kind of
required to to uphold that i'm not sure how we get out of that agreement but it's it basically
lays everything out about what we're experiencing and why it is not being shut down because we have
entered in a contract with the rest of the world to allow this to happen um i'll leave it there
and share some screenshots in the uh in a comment section for you and you can you can look at it
i'd appreciate that greatly and and would love to do perhaps a space on that subject i mean look the
thing that should be clear to everybody is that there is a concerted effort to destroy the west
and it's being done by destroying the economic prosperity of those currently in the west and
it's being furthered by the mass migration of people into the west that have a disparate culture
set of values set of history set of skills set of iq etc that is inevitably just adding to
the supply side on the supply demand curve which anyone that's thinking like the most fundamental
level of economics understands that the more available supply you have at a demand that's
either static or that is lowering is going to result in a lowered price point right and so what
does that mean you import massive amounts of more people into economies where everyone is transparent
and open about the fact that we don't know what's going to happen to jobs with automation and with
artificial intelligence and a continued reliance on software rather than human manpower right what
is the inevitable outcome of that it is the the salaries of everyone drastically decreasing
and i know that we don't necessarily see this because of inflation but if you look at the
average income of most folks it's been completely static and what's mind-boggling is the democratic
party yelled about this all throughout the 80s and 90s they asked why is why are basic
incomes not increasing alongside inflation why why is your average income not increasing
why is minimum wage staying static well obviously it's because they don't have to increase it
because if you import massive amounts of more people willing to accept low paying jobs guess
what they don't have to raise the price point so it's all very very very simple so economically
everyone's being made impoverished while the culture is being simultaneously destroyed and imploded
both through mass migration which is cultural disruption but also through this onslaught of
propaganda just like that prior speaker was talking about the black community used to be fine if you
look at even black entertainment going back 30 or 40 years what did you have you had the cosby show
you had you had programs like family matters you had things like the fresh prince of bel-air
and i mean i can vividly remember an episode of the fresh prince where uh the character will goes
to his uncle and he says why doesn't my dad love me why was he not part of my life it's a very very
emotionally touching scene and back then everybody could understand how how difficult that must be
to not have a family in your or a father in your household well guess what four out of five black
kids in america now live that reality that's insane that that's been normalized and what's the
the outcome of that. It's obviously going to be all these social unrest and social issues
and ills that we see. So everyone's being made poor, culture is being dumbed down, it's
being degraded, the religion is being pulled out of all of the communities. And folks,
this is exactly out of the playbook of social Marxism. This is what Marx called for on both
the economic front and on the cultural front. It's the removal of the family, the removal
of education, the removal of religion, X, Y, and Z, the removal of your history. We
see all the statues being torn down. This is straight out of that playbook. And where
did both social Marxism and actually the economic rendition of it, where did that all come from?
Where did the political indoctrination of communism come from? It's all Judaic in its
background. That's not being hateful. That's just factually correct. And so sorry for the
rant there, pastor, but if you want to pick it up from here, I think it's I give you
a lot of fodder or ingredients.
I just dropped those pictures in the comments section for you. And if you want to put them
up in a nest or whatever for people to see it easier, I didn't mean to cut you out faster.
I just wanted to let them let them know I did that.
No, thank you. No problem. Yeah, I mean, I agree. I feel like I could go down the rabbit
trail with you on that. And I actually went to school to study economics. I was getting
a master's degree in economics and finance. And, you know, I could really talk a lot about
inflation and usury and, you know, it's evil. It's evil. It's a rigged system. People just,
honestly, if you play two board games, Monopoly and Risk, they'll help you understand the
world so well. And the game of Monopoly, if you don't acquire properties, you lose the
game. And it's all a real estate game and the prices keep going up. And if you don't
have a monopoly, you lose. And that's how America's capitalist system is. That's the
direction we're headed. And in the Bible, they had a year of Jubilee, which reset the
economic system over and over and was to prevent this from happening. Supposedly, America
had regulations and we're supposed to break up monopolies to prevent this from happening.
But the fact that Google owns YouTube is the most obvious monopoly you could ever see.
There's not a more clear monopoly that could ever exist. And they're not being broken up.
Facebook bought Instagram. It was like, come on. Like, how open of a monopoly are we going
to have in this country and not break these things up? And we're being driven into a scenario
where the rich are going to have so much more money than the poor that we're all going to
be poor. That is one of the goals and one of the aims. And to strip us to where we all
have no property. I mean, you think of the World Economic Forum, they'll say you own
nothing and be happy. The first part's true. The second part is not. They want
people to be maybe drunk and on drugs and sleeping around to try and pacify the
fact that they have literally no wealth anymore. And that they're eating junk
food and having to work as slaves to just afford a really terrible existence.
And so that is their goal. That's their aim. I don't know that it will happen for
sure, but obviously that's what they want. And we need the general populace to
wake up, get the right mindset, become saved, follow the Bible. That's the only
opposition. That is the opposition to this, is Christianity, and so without it
there is no hope. Can I say one more thing real quick and then I'll step
out. These people that are going to these like city hall meetings like that
one that's been being shared around in Alabama right now, anyone that is
going to do this and speak out and get shut down like that or just face a
glazed-eyed people that aren't going to do anything, I would suggest turning
around to the people that are sitting there behind you and say, "Hey, anyone
that wants to actually continue this conversation in the parking lot because
these people aren't doing the job that they were putting this
position to do, let's continue it in the parking lot and figure out what we're
going to do about these people." That's it. Well, very good question. Let's go to Titus.
Yeah, hey, thanks for letting me speak. I had one thing for Ian and one thing for
Pastor. Ian, real quick, that 150k California giving it to the Illegals for
housing thing. Yeah, I hope you're sitting down. Gavin Newsom vetoed that
Friday, and I know it's new information and a lot of people probably just
haven't heard it yet. But that still doesn't excuse all the traders in
California's Senate and House for voting yes on that. That's just crazy. And the
other thing I had for Pastor is on talking about modern culture and Bible
influence. Until I was 50 years old I've never heard some of this Hebrew
roots nonsense and now in the past few years it seems to be everywhere. And I
was wanting to hear the pastor's thoughts on that and if he had any
resources that we could use to share to help show people that that's just wrong.
I'd like this Yeshua word. It's everywhere now and I've seen videos in
the past explaining how ridiculous it is. I know Pastor Anderson's got a good
clip out there that explains the source of Jesus and Jesus and with the Greek
text I was just wondering why does he think this is becoming so popular and how
do we get control on it? Yeah I mean here's the thing that my parents got
involved in this and and so I know this firsthand. Unfortunately the Hebrew Roots
movement is a misguided movement that's wrong theologically and they really
take the Jewishness overboard. It's usually coming from a Zionist group so I
think to I think defeating Zionism will defeat the Hebrew Roots movement but
obviously Jesus is the name of Christ in English coming from the Greek text which
is Isis and there's a movement out there that's called like the sacred name
movement or the Yeshua movement and it's it's trying to say that you can't say
his name in Greek or you can't say his name in English and I even have a Bible
called the tree of life version it literally says that like we're trying to
replace the name of Jesus with Yeshua and here's the thing obviously you can
pronounce the English name of Jesus in Hebrew you can pronounce the Greek name
of Jesus in Hebrew and I'm sure that you know it is either Yeshua or Yahushua
these people don't even agree on which name it is but most people subscribe to
the Yeshua form but there's nothing wrong with saying someone's name in
another language but what I think take offense to is is saying that his name is
not Jesus or something and some people take this so extreme to say like that
Jesus is wrong or pagan or something and that's just kind of absurd you know I
think that it's really clear that we have to understand that the Bible was
written in Greek and as far as the New Testament is concerned and the Greek
literally has his name is Jesus you can't get away from that obviously when
English is formed and you know between a thousand AD to 1600 where we have
contemporary English you know we read it's a Germanic language it's coming
from a lot of roots of European languages it's going to change form a
little bit and it's it's Jesus but but that is his name and I would hope that
people would be willing to really study you know the New Testament on this issue
because the Old Testament was done away with and it's been fulfilled and and
Jesus Christ was that ultimate fulfillment and you know if someone spoke
Hebrew and they want to call Jesus Yeshua okay but I think that English
speaking people need to go ahead and embrace the name Jesus and you know if
you're Hispanic it's Jesus hey no problem if you speak Spanish Jesus if
you speak Greek Jesus if it's yours you're a native Hebrew speaker Yeshua
that's fine but it would be weird to say that his name is not that when you're an
English speaking person you know let's speak the language that we speak and and
be clear on that issue so I would just say you know dismantling Zionism
typically can destroy the the Hebrew Roots movement for the most part I've
seen a video of some rabbis on a talk show where they actually say that yes
shoe Yeshua is a Yiddish curse word that means blot his name out forever have you
heard that anywhere again how can any of us know any of these things I would have
to say that there's there's there's got to be a way to say the name Jesus in
Hebrew and a lot of people think it's Yeshua obviously it's a it's a form of
Joshua like Joshua in the Old Testament is is Jesus just like in Spanish if you
understand like the name James James in Spanish can be Yocobo or it can be
Santiago so it has like two forms the same as Joshua and Jesus are two forms
of the same exact name and so you know from from the Hebrew and so you know is
it Yeshua I have no problem with that being what it is I would say that Jews
lie about everything who's a liar but he that denied that Jesus the Christ he is
anti-christ I wouldn't trust anything that they say and again I think we have
to be reasonable these people and say like look I'm not against you using the
name Yeshua but you need to embrace Jesus and your English-speaking let's
let's talk about Jesus because that's what the language we're speaking it'll
be weird for me to just every time I mention something about God I only say
it in Spanish or something what if I was like it's Dios it's uh it's Jesus like
why would I I wouldn't do that I speak English right so to me it doesn't make
sense to make the same mistake and these these people are hypocrites because that
sacred name Bible that I have that someone gave me even though in the New
Testament it changes all the names of God into Hebrew alternatives in the Old
Testament they swap out tons of verses for the Greek Septuagint so these people
are not ideologically consistent they really don't even know what they're
talking about it's a fake movement and and the people that are usually in this
movement are grifters that are promoting it and so you know I think it's good to
call it out but thanks for comments. Do you think that that Jews today really do
speak Hebrew or that it's a lost language and they just made up something?
Well it definitely was a dead language so here's the thing how many tape
recordings do we have of people walking around speaking Hebrew? None. And let's
be honest if you if I showed you the French language and you don't speak
French there is no way on God's green earth you could ever pronounce words
the way the French are pronouncing words because they basically don't even
pronounce the last half of the word it's it's the most confusing language so am I
really supposed to believe that people could resurrect a quote dead language
and and have the proper pronunciation even languages that are not dead they
evolve and change in form all the time I don't think that we lost the letters I
think that the Hebrew Bible is preserved but as far as speaking it you know it's
just any man's guess and you know even if they did resurrect it what does it
matter they did they didn't it doesn't change anything the Hebrew Bible still
says the same thing that it has said and that Antichrist religion rejects it and
doesn't believe it starting in Genesis 1 so you know it it's it's an interesting
theory and I don't mind talking about it but like to me it doesn't mean
anything if it's if it's Yiddish or Hebrew or if they have the proper
pronunciation it's completely meaningless it doesn't have any benefit
and and personally I'd be skeptical that they did resurrect it accurately thanks
pastor thanks Ian yeah it's my pleasure and let's go to let's go down to Donica
for a final question for pastor hey thank you so much um I just well I had a
few comments but I'll keep it short because I know you want to wrap it up
Ian pastor how how often have you had or have you ever been to like these it was
gonna tie into what fun was saying earlier but he he left how often have
you been to like a Southern Baptist Church or how I obviously I know myself
how far away from the actual word it is but do you genuinely believe that these
people can kind of be reformed with the actual word and not like this smoking
pony show kind of Southern Baptist performance quite frankly because I it
kind of bothers me to even say that that they are you know a true church I feel
like it's a little bit of a smoking pony show and what do you think the steps
would be to getting it to be corrected because I feel like a lot of these
people do push a Zionist idea or a Zionist ideology and you know since
you're a Baptist I would love to know. Sure yeah you know here's the thing that
that would be a fun conversation I've preached multiple sermons on the
history of Southern Baptist because it's so fascinating and you know the
Southern Baptist Convention was literally separated from the Northern
Baptist Convention, the Northern Baptist on the issue of slavery. So they were
pro-slavery that's the only reason they even exist that was their founding and
then additionally if you look throughout history they have a couple different
doctrinal statements. So you'll look they have like a 1920s version and then like
a 1960s version and they have a more up-to-date one. Those are to signify
major issues with the Southern Baptist Church throughout history and in the 60s
the Southern Baptist Church got so bad and so liberal that they literally just
denied like Genesis 1 as being history, they denied Jesus as God. It's like
almost the Martin Luther King version of Christianity which denies everything
about the Bible and is completely fake. That's what I'm trying to, yeah thank you,
that's what I mean like that. But see the more recent, see this is what
happened with the Southern Baptist, it got so bad but then Calvinists basically took
over and infiltrated the Southern Baptist Convention and now it's like
basically the Southern Baptist Convention is like fifty percent, thirty to fifty
percent Calvinist and then it's kind of like maybe thirty percent kind of
traditional and then there's like a ten to twenty percent that just like really
crazy radical extreme woke psychos and freaks. So the Southern Baptist Convention
is a is a conglomerate of a lot of different issues with a lot of different
extremes. You have JD Greer and David Platt going completely woke emphasizing
CRT, crazy weird things. Andy Stanley promoting homosexuality like a weird
pervert, queer of himself. And then you even have people in the other camp like
people that are very Calvinistic and and kind of dragging it into a death
chamber. But the Southern Baptist Convention in my mind is a doomed
convention but I don't think that that means every church is bad in like a
horrible way. I think they're all wrong. They don't use the King James Bible
anymore and and they've kind of gotten away from that. A lot of them
don't teach salvation by faith anymore either. They're mixed up on works and
they're using modern versions and they've been subverted. The Calvinism is
a false doctrine. It's super evil and wicked. Calvinism basically teaches that
God endorses rape and every horrible thing you could ever think of in the
world and it's all evil and wrong. And for me growing up, Southern
Baptists were the only Baptist I even knew existed. Now my wife grew up a
Southern Baptist minister's daughter. So she grew up in the church. My in-laws
are part of the church and they're not horrible people. A lot of Southern
Baptists kind of came from independent Baptist similarities. A lot of Southern
Baptists that are older are usually still very good people but this new stuff
that's happened it's getting really bad again and you know I love Southern
Baptist people and and I like a lot of them but they're they're conventions bad
and you know that we need to get them under the King James Bible. We need to
make sure that they're they're saved and and I think a lot of them they're
just backslidden worldly Christians that don't want to face reality. A lot of
them very Zionist. A lot of them are influenced by the lies of 1948 and
they're giving all this money to Israel. They've been subverted by many different
groups including the Calvinist groups and so you know I avoid them. I'm an
independent funnel Baptist for a reason. J. Frank Norris separated from the
Southern Baptist Convention. Jack Hiles separated from the Southern Baptist
Convention and so you know the Southern Baptist Convention is not, it doesn't
have good roots and it doesn't have good fruits and so therefore I don't want
anything to do with it. I hope that answered your question.
No you did absolutely. In my younger years I had like an, not an obsession, but I
like hyper focused on the Southern Baptist Church and I'm so happy that you
actually agree with everything I was mentioning about it because it truly is.
It's like this weird, that's what I say, like smoke and pony show. When I see
some of like the sermons I can't believe this is actually true and people
genuinely, like they're moved by it. They're very flamboyant. It's odd
to me. But the one piece, I was very curious as to how you think we
should go, not we obviously, but as a collective society or at least, how do
you think we go about reforming that? Everything else you touched on, but I was
just curious how you, what do you see as something that could move to a better
kind of scripture for them? Obviously it's the King James Bible, but like what
do we do about it? You know what I mean? If you can touch on it. No, I mean
here's the thing, I planted a church in Houston. The first church I started is
called Pure Words Baptist Church. I named it because that's what the verse is in
Psalm 12 that describes the Bible. And here's the thing, people will not change
without the Bible. It is the only source of renewal to the mind and the heart and
the soul and so the only cure is the King James Bible. As long as churches are
using modern versions and they're not allowing the Bible to be authority,
churches will be bad, individuals will be bad, our government will be bad. Everything
comes from the source of the text and our authority in our life and so you know
I made a film called The Preserved Bible like I try really hard to get people to
become King James and use the King James Bible because that is the starting
point. That is where we have to get people. We have to if we're gonna change
anything it starts there and you have to get people saved of course but you know
without the King James Bible you're not gonna see anything happening and people
preaching the gospel like it's pretty much limited to people that use the King
James Bible. You don't see these modern versions. I've never had a Southern
Baptist knock on my door and try to get me saved and you know these Southern
Baptists are just kind of fake and they need to realize they either need to
leave the convention and become an independent Baptist using the King
James Bible or the individuals if their church isn't gonna do it they need to
leave that and get into a good church and they need to go out and start
preaching the gospel themselves and influencing the culture and you know
that's that's what I'm doing. I'm doing that literally. I made a documentary, the
Preserved Bible. I'm making other documentaries. I'm making a documentary on
One Nation Under God to explain basically this podcast. I mean in a
really sophisticated format with lots of different interviews. I'm hoping to get
some good guests like big names to be in there just to help promote the film and
then I'm also potentially working on a JQ film to talk about the protocols of
Elder Zion and explain because a lot of people are always wondering about all
these issues and they don't they like explain the book the protocols of Elder
Zion which they haven't even read it and I'm like I just want to put it out
there so you just realize like this is exactly what you're saying and this is
exactly what's happening but of course you know what will change minds and
hearts is the gospel and it comes from the King James Bible and that's what's
going to change people's lives you know I lived a pretty worldly Christian life
for the most of my upbringing and what changed my life was just reading the
Bible and that'll change that's what's going to change people's hearts and
minds and that will change our culture and our country and most people don't
even have to change that's what's crazy people don't understand that even an
overthrow of a government like the Bolshevik Revolution 90 some percent of
the population did not actively participate in this it's just it's the
people that power and influence and those individuals doing things you know
there's a famous quote up there it says the only thing necessary for evil to
triumph is for good men to do nothing and and because we have a cowardice
because we don't have leaders because we don't have men standing up and
And rallying, you know, the right viewpoints and rallying together on the right ideologies,
we're allowing ourselves to be completely taken over.
And so we need courageous men that aren't on the take, that don't care about the money,
that just want the truth to get out there.
And that's the ultimate.
The ultimate truth is the King James Bible and the Word of God.
And so I'm 100% dedicated to that.
So that's who I am.
And that's what I do.
Thank you so much.
That's a wonderful way to close out this space with that statement.
I mean, the whole topic, the Bible's influence on modern culture, not only where has it been,
but where is it going and how do we need it and why do we need it more than ever?
Thank you so much for this last space.
You do a masterful job on this.
Yeah, you just did a wonderful job.
And I mean, we had I think around 200 to 300 people in here.
I'm sure thousands listened in in totality.
I'm certainly going to be making a clip out of some of this because some of the things
that you said were just brilliant.
And I'll sincerely look forward for everybody that's in here to repeating this.
We'll see if we can't work with the pastor and maybe hold a religious space at least
once a month if he's available.
The way that you approach these issues, it's just like I said, it's incredibly valuable
and it's so uplifting.
And I think that comment on this being the thing that's needed more than ever is just
so in line.
So thank you so very much, pastor.
We'll certainly, like I said, do another space on this topic, kind of expand on it further.
And then for anybody that's available, we've got another space coming out later today.
It's in about six or so hours.
Hopefully we won't quite go the five hours that we went on this one, pastor.
But I do sincerely want to thank you for all the time, for all the speakers that came up.
Everyone that's listening, please give pastor a follow if you haven't already.
Just a wonderful wealth of knowledge and we'll look forward to everybody in the next space.
Thank you so much, Ian.
And if you don't mind, I'd just like to say, you know, you can go to our website, sbckjv.com
and on the bottom of that, it has a video called the Bible Way to Heaven.
It's a 10 minute video.
Just explains how to get salvation.
And the Bible's really clear in John 3.16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His
only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting
life."
The Bible makes it clear that salvation is by believing in Jesus Christ and what He did.
Salvation is a free gift and it's based on the merits of Christ, not what we do.
We can't trust in ourselves to get to heaven and many people are trying to earn their way
to heaven through their works, through baptism, through their sacrifice, through the things
that they do and the Bible makes it clear that you can't work your way to heaven.
You have to accept the free gift offered to us by Christ.
We're sinners deserving of hell and what Jesus Christ did is He took and paid for all of
our sins on the cross.
Every sin past, present, future for every single person and He requires of us to do
one thing.
He simply put all of our trust and faith that His death, burn and resurrection paid all
of our sins.
And the moment someone trusts Christ, when they call upon the name of the Lord in faith,
the Bible says that they're granted eternal life and salvation and they can never lose
that.
That's the good news.
The good news is that once you're saved, you're always saved.
He'll never leave thee nor forsake thee.
The love of God can never be taken away from you and you become a child of God.
You're filled with the Holy Spirit and you have eternal life currently.
And when you die physically, you'll be with the Lord in heaven.
Those who die without Christ, who have never believed in Jesus Christ and put their faith
in him, unfortunately will have to go to hell for their sins.
And so it's important for people to recognize and realize this is the ultimate truth.
This is the ultimate red pill.
This is the ultimate thing that the devil wants to censor and his minions.
And this is why we're seeing the culture the way it is.
This is why we're seeing the censorship the way that it is.
This is why we see Marxism and communism always trying to have an information blackout.
This is why you see the nefarious groups always trying to censor the Bible.
And the devil can't get rid of the King James Bible, so he's tried to hide it in a haystack
of modern versions.
But the King James Bible is the word of God.
It's the truth.
It is the lightning rod.
It shines out in the darkness.
And I would encourage anybody and everybody.
Check out my 10 minute video.
If you don't understand what I'm saying, I explain it in a little more detail.
Thanks so much for the space.
I do have a small podcast.
If you want to watch it, Baptist Bias, you can go to baptisbias.com/join.
And this space was great.
I know it's a long space, but you allowed me to talk about so many different things
that are really important to me.
And I really enjoyed this conversation.
Thanks for the questions, guys.
And I look forward to working together in the future.
And like I said, we'll certainly be running this back whenever you're available, Pastor.
So I'll certainly send you a note on the back end of this and we'll get the next one on
the books.
And until then, I just want to thank you again for everything today and look forward to the
next one.
God bless.