And so I see that he's popping in here right now.
I'll bring him up as a co-host.
You're doing the best.
Wolf, I'm all the better because we've got
a wonderful guest speaker and we've got yourself in here
to help run the ship.
And for anybody that's not currently following Wolf,
I can't imagine there are a lot,
but he's actually not just one of the
ongoing, I guess you'd call it, you're kind of the president, El Presidente of JQ Radio,
also one of the founders, if not the founding force behind it and is running that with Uncensored
and Colin, so for anybody that's not following him, certainly a great account to follow,
puts in a massive amount of time and attention into
Not just the JQ, but Wolf, maybe as the opportunity to give a bit of background for anybody that's less familiar with your content,
I feel like the JQ is just one of the many aspects that play into your essential pursuit of a better tomorrow.
You talk a lot about financial wellness, about...
kind of emotional and physical wellness.
You want to give everybody kind of just an overview
of some of the things that you focus on
and then we'll go to Mr. Passe.
Oh, bro, it is just a spiritual lightning, right?
So where we can all agree on is
we all stuck in a spiritual and psychological warfare.
And that's what really was driving me
to do the JQ radio, right?
We decided one morning I had the space running two days
and we were like, you know what,
we should do this more often.
People seem to like it.
And so we started JQ Radio, but the main cause to be driven to do this on a daily basis.
So I'm not really much of like, I don't create my own content and make like videos go viral
or anything like that because I spend so much time in spaces.
would like-minded individuals like Ian and many many many other people who come up as speakers to just you know
Have some really nice intellectual high-acute conversations about the problems that everybody's facing in the daily lives and the problems that we having in the world
right, so I see it as a spiritual
Awakening and it's honestly something I'm very passionate about because
We only live one life right and every hour and every minute and every second goes by very fast
So make the best out of it, and if I can spread awareness and
Become a truth seeker and a truth teller right like truth teller
But he's obviously super computer can't compare myself to him
But if I can if I can live a life and spread, you know the light on the darkness a little bit
I'm I'm passionate about it right and so yeah, that's it. I mean just super
Super passionate about the spiritual warfare that we're all facing and you know, I'm driven by
I'm driven by passion, right? It's not I'm not making you know
Money on here like where I can not work. It's not you know, we make nothing on you
It's just pure passion. I think that's what we need more in our circles and on X is people are passionate about these things
right and who actually doing this from from a standoff
You know, they're doing this with a pure heart, right? So it's all pure. It's no fake and gay stuff and that's what's important
But yeah, that's why I stand brother. You know me even the real as much as I can
Well, and that that's the thing I feel like if anybody keeps it real
Wolf, you're certainly certainly one that does and and I feel like especially with the
Vocal intonation. I know it's not identical, but essentially like the Schwarzenegger of the JQ spaces out here
You know not perhaps Austrian, but but have a similar little vocal variety there
And and you know you're very much like Arnold in that you speak truth
You call it like it is and I'm referring to the OG Arnold for what it's worth
Pre-political run and and his entanglement with I guess the machine, but you know back in the day Arnold was just like a strong
charismatic individual who was, you know, strong-willed, strong-mind, strong-bodied, etc.
And those are some of the things I see you focusing on.
So I'm just always humbled to be a part of your conversations, to have you here.
And I think this is going to go into some of that, because this is really about, you know,
having that strong will through some kind of convictions that have to be grounded in something more than oneself.
And so I know there's a couple of topics that the Mr. Band pastor was interested in discussing,
you know, band, some of the things that I threw out there was the, you know, spiritual state of
the state, if we were to give a state of the union of the religiosity of the American world,
and basically how you see it, where you see it going, and how we can maybe bring a more convicted
the insanity that is kind of the woke modernity. I feel like it has to be rooted in something
bigger than ourselves, right? Bigger than materialism, than vanity, than hedonism, etc.
And so prior to maybe unpacking those things, do you want to give a bit of background on yourself,
some of your work? And I had kind of heed you up describing you as the most censored person on
the net when it comes to your religious bends here. So
If you wouldn't mind maybe introducing yourself
for anybody that is less familiar with your work.
Yeah, just can you hear me loud and clear?
I just want to make sure.
Yep, sure can.
Great.
Thanks again for having me on a space and I love talking about all kinds of things. Of course my faith
I also like talking about the JQ and
I even have some material with me if we want to get into that discussion
We want to talk a little bit about that topic, but a little bit about myself again
I do I do pastor a church in the Dallas, Fort Worth area
It's in Cedar Hill, Texas instead fast Baptist Church and our church has actually had to move multiple times
because of being evicted
uh, being sued, uh, being protested, all kinds of different crazy things. Um, I've specifically
been banned on all kinds of stuff. I lost our Bank of America accounts. I lost Chase accounts.
I lost Wells Fargo accounts. Uh, of course, easy stuff like PayPal, um, MailChimp, uh, Airbnb,
Pretty much just anything and everything then eventually they actually banned me on all credit card processing
So I can't do any credit card processing of course lost YouTube
Channels so many different times to the point where I just stopped even trying
This is probably my seventh or eighth Twitter account
I'm a known terrorist on Facebook
I actually tried to upload a video from a rumble on Facebook just before we got in the
space and they said it was spam and they wouldn't even let me upload a video.
Additionally, just kind of even on rumble, which I love rumble and I'm very pro rumble,
but I have had videos taken off of rumble.
I've lost Facebook live streams.
Uh, I even have our Baptist, we have a Baptist bias show that we do.
And I'm trying to simulcast on that right now on rumble, uh, for
our audience so they can listen to the space right now.
Um, but, uh, I also have lost videos on rumble.
So we've uploaded our documentary, the sodomite deception.
And, uh, it got taken down.
Uh, we've made documentaries on, uh, called LGBT terrorists.
And I've made some more friendly to the mainstream documentaries, one called The Preserved Bible.
You can just go to the website PreserveBible.com and it explains where the Bible came from
and specifically why I use the King James Bible only. And I think it's the ultimate truth.
You know, we talk about restoring faith in a broken America.
It's going to begin and end with the King James Bible.
It's the Word of God, and that's what's going to actually restore faith.
The Bible says faith come up by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
So people need to put their faith in what the Bible says, not faith in a politician,
not faith in a political movement, not faith in a particular individual, not faith in a
platform, but rather faith in the Word of God, which is the Scripture.
but I love talking to people from all over with different viewpoints, backgrounds,
and I'm just trying to get you converted to a Baptist, you know? So that's a little bit about
myself. Of course, hopefully that kind of gets into our topic a little bit. Let me know if there's
something you want to kind of dive into first here, Ian, and again, I appreciate being on the space.
Oh, of course, my friend. And just in terms, because there was an emphasis there, the King James Bible, right?
We hear a lot about the Schofield Bible, the perversion of various texts, Vatican II, all these kind of things.
Could you give maybe just an orientation? You know, what is it that helped you land on the King James edition?
Is it in the text itself, the way that it's preserved? What about that would you kind of use to defend that position?
to that text rather than any of the other alternatives that are out there.
Yeah, great question. And of course, I would point to our documentary if you want a long answer to this, PreserveBible.com.
But, you know, when you bring up the Scofield reference Bible, I want to make it clear that there's nothing about the King James that's wrong.
It's simply that's somebody adding their notes and adding in a bunch of trash to the Bible itself.
Especially at that time, pretty much everybody was using the King James Bible because it was the only Bible.
You have a famous quote from Ronald Reagan talking about as pious drudges try to get it right.
It will not dawn on them that it has been gotten right.
So even Ronald Reagan realized that the King James Bible is the word of God.
And it's only in the last maybe 50, 60 years where you've seen a dramatic shift.
in Bible translations that have drifted away from what the King James Bible's heritage is.
The King James Bible is based on the textus receptus, which just simply means the Bible's
passed down and used by Christians. If you understand kind of a little bit about the history,
in the 1500s, 1600s, you see a Reformation from the Catholic Church, and they're realizing that
They had corrupted the scriptures, and so there's a big movement to get an accurate translation of the Bible.
This was spurred by all kinds of different individuals,
Desiderius Erasmus. Of course, that's where you get the Martin Luther translation into German.
Then you have a man by William Tyndale who brings that into English.
And then from that is where you get the handful of other English translations that leads to the final
translation, the King James Bible. They even say in the translator's reader that it is to be one more exact
translation of the Holy Scriptures into the English tongue. That's a quote from the
their preface and really it is done. Of course the English language is always
going to make minor adjustments and shift a little bit but considering its
global power, the fact that so many people are using it, it's not going to
shift very much and I still believe the King James Bible is very understandable
but it's also accurate.
Other translations today do not use the same heritage. They have gone from an eclectic text,
and so if you look at all the other translations of the English Bible, you'll notice they take
verses out, they change the phrases, they say completely different things, they contradict
themselves, and I believe that their fruit is evident that it's not causing a great revival
in America. We see modern churches today doing all kinds of crazy things, being like a circus,
all kinds of sin and wickedness and insanity. People, of course, have become very Zionist
and all kinds of stuff. Just Pentecostalism has become crazy. And we see just the fruit of the
modern versions is destroying America. It's destroying Christianity. There's no respect
for it anymore. Whereas the King James Bible is the only hope for America to return to
sanity, to normalcy, to conservatism, to things that actually our country was built and founded upon.
America is the greatest nation in the world because of the Bible, and because of the heritage of the Word of God, and because we literally put it into our laws, we put it into our country.
States, many of them required and mandated for the government to profess faith in Jesus Christ.
Our laws were coming directly from Leviticus, Exodus, Deuteronomy, and that's what made America such an amazing country is
the desire for people to actually follow what the word of God says, and it's only since we've really
gone away from the word of God, try to undo all kinds of laws, like in 2015, where Obama is
undoing, you know, marriage and basically allowing same-sex marriage, which is just
a culmination of many different things. That's just one to point to. But we see just the
that wear tiny hats and they want to essentially just destroy our country and, you know, the
attacks on whites, the attacks on men, the attacks that we see on conservatives. It's
really just thinly veiled attacks on the founding principles of Christianity. That's
where those things are really coming from. And so, you know, this is a major battle. This is a major
fight.
and we need the Word of God, we need the Bible to reveal to us who is the real enemy out there
and what is the real solution.
Well, and what's so interesting about you saying that is, you know, people often I feel like they look at all these different aspects of
modernity, whether it's mass migration, whether it's the culture wars,
it's things as simple as gender being turned upside down, and I feel like a lot of people are lost and confused,
but when when you instead just look at it all as an amalgamation and you say,
actually, I think that what they're fundamentally attacking is everything aligned with Christianity.
It starts to make a lot of sense, all the things that are basically the inversions of gender,
of what it means to be a man, a woman, of I guess, even a moral compass, right?
When you put it through that lens and you say, hey, this isn't actually an attack on,
you know, American values necessarily, it's not an attack on democracy, it's not an attack
on the free market, it's an attack on Christianity, all the rest of it kind of comes into better
focus.
Is that kind of your take on it?
Yeah, absolutely. And I'd like to just read a small portion from a book. It's called Behind
Communism. It's written by Frank L. Britton. And I just want to read a little section here
in page 12. It's just kind of the early part of this. It's called The Evictions. So it's an
Eviction section. And this is what this book says. And I'm not going to read all of it,
but I'm just going to read a little bit.
It says, space does not permit a detailed discussion of other evictions which followed
and which resulted in the banishment of the Jews from virtually every country in Western
Europe in the succeeding centuries, but here in chronological order.
is a list of evictions. England. Jews expelled in 1290 by Edward I. Not permitted to re-enter until
1655. France. Expelled in 1306 by Philip the Fair. A few were permitted to return,
but were again evicted in 1394. Jewish settlements remained in Bordeaux, Avignon, Marseille,
from where they were evicted in 1682 in the northern province of Alsace. Saxony they are
By 1092 the Jews were in control of Hungary's tax collections, in 1360 they were expelled
but later returned in 1582.
They were again expelled from the Christian part of Hungary, Belgium.
Expelled in 1370. A few settled there again in 1450, but no large numbers came until 1700.
Slovakia, ousted from Prague in 1380. Many settled there again after 1562.
In 1744, Marie Theresa expelled them again. Austria expelled in 1420 by Albert V. Netherlands
expelled from Utrecht in 1444. Spain expelled in 1492. Lithuania expelled in 1495 by Grand Duke
Portugal expelled in 1498, Prussia expelled in 1510, Italy expelled from King of Naples
and Sardinia in 1540, Bavaria banned permanently in 1551, Jews were not permitted to enter
Sweden until 1782, none were permitted to enter Denmark before the 17th century, and
they were not allowed in Norway after 1814 today only a handful reside in all of Scandinavia.
Again, I don't have time to read all of this, but you get a little bit of a context.
You kind of have just all of these European nations that are Christian or Catholic, but
essentially just some form of Christianity, and they're all expelling this one group until
you kind of have the 17, 1800s.
You really see mainly a lot of this being pushed back with Napoleon, and Napoleon essentially
re-enter Europe, a lot of laws start changing, then you see a lot of them migrate into Russia
and you have a complete communist takeover of Russia, they migrate to China, you have a communist
takeover of China, you see a lot of Europe being overthrown and the aristocracy is being destroyed
and then you kind of have the last bulwark of America
which now almost everybody in our country, as far as in a political position of power,
is either handled by someone that's Jewish or is Jewish. And you kind of see this consistent theme of
Christian nations being Christian while they expel the Jews. When they don't expel them,
you see them being overthrown and Christianity being demolished. Europe is no longer Christian
anymore. Europe is no longer great anymore. I mean, UK, Britain was the world's champion as far as
Russia was also a major threat and a major player, completely overthrown and destroyed by communism.
And now America is headed down a similar path where you kind of have to ask this question.
what destination, what future do we really want?
Do we want to have laws that are based on Christian principles
and not allow people to triumph over Christianity,
or do we want to allow them to destroy Christianity
and destroy our nation and bring us back into communism?
And so if we want to restore faith in America,
we have to realize that there is a real communist threat,
there's a real communist history,
and it's the word of God that keeps us
dark hole. I mean, the First Amendment and the Second Amendment are so, so important and why
we wouldn't be destroyed. When you can't say what you need to say and when you can't defend what
you need to say, well then, you know, there really is no hope. You're going to go straight into
communism. The Hungarian Revolution is a great thing to read about. The Bridgette and I was an
incredible book. There's a lot more to see on this topic. I just wanted to kind of start out
the conversation to understand if we want to restore faith in a broken America we have to ask
ourselves why is it a broken where did it become broken why like what's causing the brokenness
so then you can address the restoration and if you really want to understand the restoration you
kind of have to understand the parasite that's attached itself to the host and recognize you have
hosts you know think about it they can survive while parasites are on them
but if the parasites get too big and too many well then they can destroy the host and so
I'm just trying to help identify that there's a real battle going on between good and evil.
And it's those who are of God and love the Bible that are the righteous.
And then you have those that hate the word of God and have a false religion, the religion of Judaism,
which is of Satan. The Bible says that the synagogue of Satan.
And these people are the true enemy of all righteousness.
And so,
I am trying to be kind of blunt here,
but I'll just kind of give you a little bit of a synopsis.
And then of course we can explore more there
or if you want to push back or if someone's asked a question
or we can talk more about solutions here.
No, I actually, I mean, I think you're spot-on and the way that you just walked through,
I hope it's okay if I turn some of your words there into a little video clip at some point
over the weekend just because the way that you walked through the evolution of this very
self-evident scenario where communism has gone from, like you said, and predating Russia,
from Russia to China to Europe to America and you're seeing this exact progression and it's the
it's the the same playbook over and over and over again and it does feel like it's not just
an economic one it's not just a political one it's not just about power it is about
unseeding the moral fabric of those societies and you know in in the west right now in America
you were basically at the culmination of what feels like
three, four, five generations worth of anti-Christian rhetoric, propaganda, programming, and that's
come in all shapes and sizes. It's, you know, Sam Smith on Saturday Night Live singing a song
called Unholy while wearing a red wedding dress with horns on his head, literally, all the way over
Upside down crucifix in a urinal in an art museum or of course the the documentaries and propaganda that was pushed out of
About you know Christian Catholic pedophiles and all this other kind of stuff
Yeah, and uh, you know I want to read her right and so I guess the question that I have oh go for it
Sorry, you cut out on me and that I interrupted I
Want to bring in a couple other quotes just to just kind of bring in that summary because I think also the French Revolution
is kind of where you see these things start Napoleon is a
Hero to Jews they even have a hope their own song dedicated to singing about Napoleon because he really
Gave them a lot of freedom in Europe, but there's a book
Or I guess a document called the protocols of the learned elders of Zion
And they have some really interesting quotes in this book, and it's coming from the idea of a small group of people that want to basically destroy and take over the world.
But I want to just read a few different things here.
This document has different quote protocols, and it says in protocol one in their section 11,
it says,
Great national qualities like frankness and honesty are vices in politics,
for they bring down rulers from their thrones more effectively and more certainly than the most powerful enemy.
Such qualities must be the attributes of the kingdoms of the Goyam,
but we must know wise be guided.
by them. So a quote in here says that the politicians of the Jews will have no frankness or honesty
and that they are bad things. Additionally in protocol number two in section three it says
Do not suppose for a moment that these statements are empty words. Think carefully of the successes we arranged for
Darwinism
Marxism Nietzscheism to us Jews at any rate. It should be plain to see what disintegrating
Importance these directives have had upon the minds of the Goyim in
protocol number three
Section 7 it says the aristocracy which enjoyed by law the labor of the workers was interested
in seeing that the workers were well fed, healthy, and strong. We are interested in just the opposite
and the demunation, the killing out of the goyem. Another protocol says in protocol 4,
section 3, it's titled, We Shall Destroy God. It is indispensable for us to undermine all faith
to tear it out of the mind of the quote goyem, the very principle of Godhead and the Spirit,
and to put it in its place, aromethetical calculations and material needs.
In number four, it says thus, all the nations will be swallowed up in the pursuit of gain and in the race for it will not take note of their common foe.
Now those are just a few quotes, but you can see from a document like that,
suggesting this idea that there's this group of God-hating, Satan-worshipping, Judaism individuals,
and that these individuals want to undermine all faith.
They want to destroy every aristocracy, which is talking about having a...
a king as essentially a monarch as their government. And mostly because they felt like the kings were
much more difficult to overthrow because they maybe have guiding principles of faith, truth,
honesty, loyalty, family, a lot of them are Christian.
and they needed to get rid of them to bring in, quote, democracy and and fairness and they're
always these social justice warriors. There's a famous clip that a lot of people shared of a
young girl basically just taking credit for how the Jews have brought in virtually every ism,
you know, socialism and Marxism and transgenderism and just essentially all of these different
They want to destroy faith in the Word of God, in the Bible, because that's what gives us purpose.
And of course, they don't want us to be well fed. They want us to be eating junk.
And, you know, we've seen some good moves from the most recent administration saying like,
hey, we need to be healthy.
We need prosperity in our nation.
You know, I would say like good directives, we're going to need to get rid of government
incompetence, government overspending, get rid of DEI.
I think these are all great principles.
We have to ask this question like, if we don't realize where these good principles are coming
from, from the Bible and from the word of God, then they'll inevitably fail.
It sounds good.
but we need to bring in the word of God.
And I'd love to see the government run more efficiently,
but if they never give us any tax breaks,
well, then I guess we're just gonna shift more money
to the people that are essentially the ones
that are causing all the destruction of our nation.
That's not gonna help anything if we're giving more money
to the people that are literally trying to destroy us
and hate us and wanna get rid of our faith.
We need to give it back to the people
that actually want to build our nation.
that love America, that love the Constitution, that love the word of God that built this great
nation. And that is what's going to restore faith in our country is when we're giving our assets
and power, empowering those who actually love our country, not the people that hate it and use it and
abuse it.
So I appreciate you. Let me give you those quotes if if we want to open it up for some
Discussion and everything those are just some of the things that I wanted to share
There's a lot more I could share on the subject in fact
Maybe I'm kind of planning on doing a mini documentary at some point on the protocols
Of Zion and basically just going through the French Revolution going through Russia
Showing lots of quotes from their documents and just showing how all that's happening in the world today
I think just bringing more awareness is good. And frankly, I mean, I can't really be banned much more anyways
So I feel like I'm kind of one of those people that could make something like that
but I know there's a lot of other warriors out there and people who are fighting
I'm just trying to give a face to you know, the opposition of of Satan. So
I appreciate you guys.
Well, you know, and first, for us, is the audio okay or no?
You're Mike.
Yeah.
Not you.
All right.
Well, I don't know.
Now it's better.
Is this okay?
Yeah.
Maybe you have a bad headphone.
I don't know what you're using.
A bad microphone.
One of the other.
I don't know what's going on.
I mean, is that any better now?
This sounds better.
Yeah, yeah, okay. Okay, cool. Sorry about sorry about that guys
No, but what I was gonna ask really quickly on that. I mean you're walking through
This let's just say predilection right there. There is this unusual pattern that we're seeing
I'm just kind of curious if you know, do you believe band that this is a
manifestation of a set of behavior that is downstream from
uh from from let's call it indoctrination and from this text and from a religious culture
or do you think that there's some kind of genetic aspect that begot the culture in the text which
manifests itself through these behaviors because the pattern just becomes impossible to ignore
and then the question becomes well how how do we keep coming back to it right
Well, I don't believe it's genetic at all. I'm not a believer in anything genetic, having
some kind of predisposition. I think it's more of an environmental factor personally,
and I think it's more of a religious aspect. I mean, you see people like Ivanka Trump converting
and you kind of understand like the history of the Jews going all the way back to the
this diaspora of 70 AD. Those people did not just isolate themselves but rather integrated into
society. Many of the people talk about the Kazarian Jews and the mixing of Europeans with Jews. And
so I think that Judaism is a choice. It's a religion. It's something that people of course
And that particular religion teaches a love of money.
It teaches a satanic agenda.
And it's really just the devil using...
pawns of this world to fulfill his agenda and is those who are the adherents of Judaism.
You know, there's nothing stopping somebody from being born a Jew and
converting to Christianity or making good decisions.
But of course when you're brought up in a satanic religion and you choose not to walk away from that,
you're gonna have certain principles that say,
hey,
Power and wealth are the only things that matter and it doesn't it doesn't matter how you get them
It doesn't matter by which means you acquire them. You are a
Special group of people then everyone else is cattle everyone else is beneath you
And you can use whatever means you need to acquire more wealth and more power
Well, that's a really dangerous ideology for people that decide not to walk out of it
Christianity does not teach that Christianity teaches people that everybody
is is loved of God and that we should treat them fairly and justly and we should be righteous and we should help our neighbor
not looking down at them as being an animal that we should take advantage of and rip off and
manipulate to our own
material gain and so, you know, again, it's it's an ideological ideological difference
It's a spiritual battle that's being raged and many people are constantly
Joining themselves of this religion and leaving this religion over the course of generations. And so you can't say it's just a
a particular like DNA thing. It's about their ideological belief system and people adhering
to this particular belief system. Just like Christianity is not comprised of a particular
DNA, people of all races, internationality, you know, groups are believing in Christ and getting
saved. And so God's not a respecter of persons. I'm not a respecter of person. But you have to also
and they choose not to get out of it, well, they're going to probably be like that particular
environment. And so, of course, being raised in Judaism, having parents and grandparents and uncles
and going to the bar mitzvahs and going to the temple and doing these satanic rituals and stuff.
Even if someone walked away from the faith and they're not even a practice or a Judaism all of that upbringing all of that cultural
Influence is gonna have a major impact on their worldview who they are the decisions that they make because because many people say like
Oh, I know all these secular Jews. They don't practice. They're doing whatever and you know, what's wrong with these people?
Yeah, but they were brought up with these same principles ideals their family members have ingrained these
These mind viruses inside of them. And so it's not so much that they were ethnically doomed
It was or their DNA had some kind of predisposition to be extra evil
It's that they had this evil environment that they were raised in and if they don't make a decision to
Walk away from that or believe in Christ then you're gonna see a pattern and you know again
I don't want to be someone that denies reality. I don't want to sit here and say like,
hey, you know, there's not this direct correlation to someone being ethnically Jewish
and then having all these characteristics. But I want to make it clear. It's not because of the
ethnicity directly. It's just a tight coupling. It's a direct correlation because of their upbringing,
because of their environment. And so you just see it on wide scale. Similar views that I have on
Whether this be people that are born in inner city, Chicago to a black family, they're predisposed to a certain environment and many times
act that way. People are going to be predisposed to their environment whether they're born in Russia, Asia, China, North Korea, and of course
they're going to be very similar to that particular outcome of their environment, but we want to make sure to separate the
environmental factors here and personal decision-making, personal responsibility from someone's DNA.
I do not believe that we are hardwired from our DNA to be bad or good, we make those decisions
ourselves.
And so I think everybody should take personal responsibility, but we also can't just sit
here and
Ignore patterns. That would be silly to sit here and just ignore the obvious things that are going on.
And I think when we ignore patterns, it causes people to be more racist rather than recognizing it's an ideological battle
more than a racial battle and trying to come up with a good solution, not Darwinism or Planned Parenthood
or all these other solutions that Democrats came up with to just kill people because of their race.
No, that's that's really well stated and what was what was wild is you were talking
Just a little while back about the video of the young woman walking through the isms and the connection back to this group of people
And if I'm from novice again, I think that's MK who we actually had
uh... on jq radio just uh... just yesterday which was
was really interesting you know she's uh... uh... younger individual i believe
somewhere in her
early to mid twenties is talking about these things on social media getting
quite the
the buzz because there she is this you know pretty young woman
who in this particular video that had millions millions of impressions she's
just
but i i guess making a cake or something is talking about
the historical ties of some of these events that you're talking about, and I bring that up just
because it does seem like there is a... I don't want to call it a resurgence, but it seems like
there is a growing number of people that are in that younger generation, that are looking around,
and they're basically seeing the culture that is that has had most of its religious emphasis ripped
out. And there's a lot of individuals that look at the byproducts of that, and they see
the modernity through the working woman that is forty five years old unmarried doesn't have any kids and it's like well that's
that's not what i want for my future and so we're seeing this younger generation that maybe starting to recognize
something's wrong they're starting you know the popularity of the things like the trad wife or
Of young men that are kind of setting out and saying I'm gonna buck the system and embrace kind of you know
The Andrew Tate nonsense the world I certainly push aside, but there are those that look like they're they're starting to seek out
Something more so I'm curious
When you look at just the the landscape, you know, we see the rise of things like Joel Osteen and mega churches
Which I think is actually taking people down that circus path. It's like it's it's infotainment rather than than information
Right, it's the religious equivalent of that
But as we see that grow we also see this resurgence of these younger individuals maybe seeking out the more traditional
spirituality, so I'm just kind of curious
Are we making advances, you know, what can we do to try and ensure that that we do push people,
you know, not through violence or anything like that, but but maybe just show them the benefits
of those more traditional religious bends that you would obviously advocate for?
Of course, I think, you know, the truth is powerful. It can slice through so many lies quickly.
You know, our church really works hard at going out and just doing personal evangelism and trying
I think before you get saved,
you're not gonna really hear too much of the truth.
And so that's why we always are trying to, you know,
preach the gospel and that's our primary goal.
But I think just anytime we can make a documentary
or make a show or do a video or write a book
or do anything that just basically exposes more truth
through a space like this, do podcasts,
I think just get, awareness is very much needed.
And unfortunately the enemy knows that that's why there's so much gatekeeping. That's why there's so much censorship
That's why there's so much
Harassment and I think that we just can't stop. We just have to keep going
I mean I've obviously been banned from so many different things, but I think that I just
Trying to create more creative ways to put the information out there
I think with Elon Musk and and Trump this presidency we might see
some more opportunities than we had in the previous presidency, and I think what we need to do is take
advantage of those opportunities, you know, putting the information out there when we can,
and exposing people to the truth, because the truth is what matters. You should know the truth,
and the truth shall make you free, is what the Bible says. And so we need to just work really hard
at caring what the truth is, and trying to find people
That are sincere. It's it's there's some people that you kind of run into and they're gonna gatekeep you on certain issues and
And what we need to not do is just waste all of our money effort and energy on
People that won't have the hard conversations that won't talk about these things because you know
I have a lot more in common with someone that
Believes completely differently than me, but is willing to talk about anything
then someone that seems like on the surface they're kind of conservative and like things that I like,
but they won't talk about the issues. They won't let me bring up the documentaries that I've made.
They won't allow me to talk about the Jewish issue. They won't allow me to talk about what the Bible says.
And then it's like, well, what's the point of even having a conversation?
Are we really going to sit here and just argue and make a whole documentary on
You know, they think that that's a big win in the culture, but I'm sitting here thinking like who changed their mind
Who was sitting at home thinking like I really actually believe women are men and now that I've watched Matt Walsh's
Documentary on what a woman is now I've changed my mind now
I actually know what a woman is like it's it's just a decay of society
and you have a few people just trying to make a buck as the Titanic goes down. I mean it's
eventually like somebody going around selling food on the Titanic as it's sinking and we think
that that's somehow a solution and it's like this guy's just trying to get a few extra bucks
and arranging you know deck chairs on the Titanic like we need to find a boat we need to get off we
And we can't just keep funneling money and time and effort and energy into people that won't talk about these issues.
And so, you know, I'm, I'm definitely trying my hardest to reach out to people and make new friendships and collaborate.
But really just, you know, I want to make more films and do more podcasts, do more shows.
That's why I'm having this conversation.
And that's why, you know, I'm interested in talking with other people.
The truth is what we need to do.
When the government fears the people,
then typically you're gonna be in a better spot.
When the people fear the government,
that's when it's dangerous.
And so we really need to educate the populace
and keep them fully aware,
allow them to understand a lot of truth.
Our education system is such a detriment.
I feel like we almost have to sit here
and just like almost have like a class.
Like a classroom setting like all right now let's learn real history. Let's like learn what actually
happened in the dark ages. Let's actually what really happened in the French Revolution. Let's
actually look let's like learn what happened with the Russians. Let's just learn what happened like
10 years ago. Let's just realize that in Texas in 2003 it was illegal to be a fag. It was illegal
Just think about like the insanity of where we've gone in just about 20 years
Like that's just insane the trajectory
We've been headed on and you can't even say these things on public television in the 90s
You could say the word fact you have all kinds of movies and people saying this now
It's just like we have transgenderism and Satanism and just all this stuff and I feel like we have a little bit of momentum
I think people have kind of woken up that Hollywood is is not great. They're kind of lame
The writing has gotten really bad. The actors are just so bad. Our government is so old and so out of touch
Technology has really changed a lot of things and so we have a little bit of momentum here
We need to lean into it use that make
you know good film make good spaces make good books make good information and get it out there
i mean what changed uh the catholic church the Protestant Reformation was when Martin Luther
you know stuck on the door the 95 thesis now i'm not catholic i don't really agree with catholics
but it's like what caused a change him putting this you know literature
on the door saying the Pope is bad and the Pope is wrong on a lot of issues.
What changed the world when William Tyndale translated the Bible into English
and then we have an English king allowing the Bible to be translated and people to actually be able to read it?
That's what changed America. It's that's what influenced America
That's what caused people to get out of the dark ages in a major way in Europe
Why did they have a renaissance?
Because of literature because of reading people need to get back to reading people need to have education people need to have
Vocabulary people need to understand why we're here and where we came from and who the players are at the table
Because right now everybody's just distracted
people are apathetic, people are confused. And, you know, we need to basically bring them up to
speed on so many issues. So, you know, I, like I said, I'm just really appreciative of having this
kind of conversation and talking about these issues. But we just need more and more people
bringing out the awareness and, and having the boldness to talk about things that are uncomfortable
or get you a quote, banned, you know, or whatever. So
really well stated, and I'm just kind of curious for your take there in terms of that
awakening for individuals that are listening in right now, they want to do their small part.
What is their best way to try and connect individuals to somebody like yourself or their local churches and communities?
What have you seen that has been really successful with those that maybe you've been trying to win over, that are in your immediate vicinity,
or perhaps those that are connected to you digitally even though they might be hundreds of miles, if not an ocean away from you?
Well, the the first step everybody needs to get saved and you know, that's just believing on the Lord Jesus Christ
the Bible says salvation is a free gift Jesus already paid for all of our sins and
All the other religions out there are teaching you works based salvation teaching you have to be catechized or be
Baptized or repent of all your sins or do all these works and the Bible teaches salvation is a free gift
and it really is simple. It's a one-time decision. Once you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ,
you're given eternal life, you become a Son of God, and you can't change that for any reason.
And so people need to, you know, make sure that they're saved and trusting in faith in Jesus.
I have a lot of videos on that. You can go look at the Bible Way of Heaven. Go to our website,
sbckjv.com. On the front of our page has a Bible Way to Heaven video. It's 10 minutes. That's the
You know, you need to just start reading your Bible and you just need to read the
King James Bible.
If you haven't read it cover to cover, you just have to do it.
And you need to, you need to read the New Testament.
That is going to give you an idea of understanding how the world works.
I think beyond that, really, you know, people should be also just educating
themselves in general about history, getting primary sources.
You need to go to a good church, a church that's King James only.
I believe salvation is by faith.
And of course, if you don't have a great church, you can always listen to sermons online from a church like ours.
But, you know, the most important thing we can do is getting other people saved.
And the thing is, that is what's, it takes a grassroots army.
It takes individuals to say, you know what?
I'm going to get saved, and I'm going to help other people get saved.
And then once they're saved and they have the truth, then it's like, okay, we got a King James Bible.
Okay, now we're going to actually try to live real Christianity out.
Christianity is what made our country great, and it's not going to be great without Christians again.
We need Christians to be Christians. We need Christians to be bold. We need Christians to adhere to the truth.
And even if you weren't raised Christian or you're raised with a bad type of Christianity,
don't allow those lies and those manipulators and those false prophets to discourage you from
the real truth. Of course, the devil's going to want to create 10,000 bad versions of Christianity
to get everybody jaded against the truth and not like the Bible, but we need to realize that that
We need to get back to the word of God.
God loves us.
God wants to use us mightily.
God wants to restore our cities, nations, states,
our families, our churches.
And the only way we can get that is if we go back to Him.
God was with the children of Israel and the wilderness,
but they were not really blessed because they weren't really doing what He said.
And it wasn't until you had a new generation with Joshua say,
hey, we're going to do what the Bible says,
and then they had great successes and they conquered their enemy.
Our country and our nation and our group of people will not have success
if we do not adhere to the Bible.
So we have to adhere to the Bible and we have to just say,
you know what, it's right, I'm wrong, let us change.
and it takes every individual. I can't do it by myself. It takes other people to become zealous for the truth.
and to maintain good works and to say you know what I can make a difference. I can get my my
spouse saved. I can get my children saved. I can start teaching them the Bible. I can start doing
homeschooling. I can start educating them. I can give them a good education. I can help them get
skills so that when they go into the workplace they can actually make good money. You know middle
a strong middle class is going to also help preserve America. We need to get away from debt.
We need to get away from all the dependents of Jewish banks. We need to get away from
them owning all the land.
All we see is apartment complexes being built all over this country. That is terrible for our nation
We need to get rid of apartments and we need to go back to private land ownership
We need to you know, hold our government accountable for all the evil things that they're doing and the money that they're wasting and
You know, these things don't happen when people are just a slave to oppression and they're not knowledgeable
And they don't work hard and they don't care, you know
Every single person needs to take personal responsibility and say hey, I need to educate myself
I need to read. I need to learn. I need to work hard. I need to go and I need to do that what's
just right. And you know, God created us with instruction manual. That instruction manual
is the Bible. We always work best when we're doing it the way that he
uh, created it. So, you know, if you try to use something against the instruction manual,
it might break or have problems. When you do, according to the manufacturer's guidelines,
it's always going to work and operate the smoothest. That is the Word of God. That is the Bible. We
are His creation, and so we need to adhere to what He gave us. And I think that if you feel
like you have no part in His, you're wrong. Every single person is important right now.
and and really this is what they should do is they should get behind the right kind of leaders.
Like I said, not giving their money to people that won't actually say the real things, that won't
say the truth, that aren't going to encourage people to make positive decisions, that aren't
trying to get people saved, that aren't trying to turn people to righteousness. You know, stop
wasting your money, time and effort on fake solutions, fake politicians, fake religion,
and and get behind the real truth. So
That's that's a big list, but again just to summarize one more time
You know get saved start reading your Bible go to church where you can get baptized. That's King James only of course educate yourself
Work hard and try to educate everyone around you be bold be someone that's knowledgeable and
Get behind the right kind of leaders
Get behind people that are actually going to take bold stands for the truth and they're not going to just use your money for
for personal satisfaction, but rather they're going to use your money to get the truth out there.
And so, you know, we're going to keep making documentaries, we're going to keep doing missions
trips, and I'm going to keep doing all kinds of shows, and that's my goal is to get the truth
out there. So, love being in the chat and having this conversation.
Yeah, and and love being able to try in and maximize your voice get exposed to some new individuals so they can support that work
Real quick before we go to a Q&A. I know we got a lot of a lot of individuals looking to kind of pick your brain
The way that people can best support those projects whether it's through
Kind of terrible donations or supporting your documentary whether it's on views or subscriptions or things of that nature
What what can people that are listening in that are really liking what they're hearing?
What could they do to kind of just, you know, add to the coffers, if you will, with all the work that you're doing?
Yeah. And again, I want them to get saved and get to go to a good church.
If they have a good church, you know, support that church.
If they don't, you know, find a good church that's trying to reach people and support them.
You can, you know, our church is sbckjv.com.
There's there's a lot of information on there for free that you can watch.
You can watch our documentaries.
share them, you know, with your family individually because you can't even share it.
If you, if you put our website, sbckjbe.com and Facebook, it'll say this is a known terrorist
website. You can't even share it or whatever. So like in many cases, you have to like,
share these things individually with people. And so, you know, sharing that with them,
supporting them, get into a good church, you know, start, you know, preaching the gospel,
learning how to preach the gospel, learning what the truth is, and learning on these topics.
Learning how to articulate them in a manner that is palatable if you just get up and just say like I hate Jews because they have big noses
You know, it's like that's not gonna really win a lot of people over but
If you can actually show them a movie like Marching Desire on or
You know, you want to help people understand the Bible preserve Bible comms a great way and you know educate yourself on these topics
Really get plugged in that's gonna make a big difference
You know follow and share the information from the people that are making the big difference and you know
Give your time to the things that matter give your time to the Bible give your time to people that are gonna speak the truth
Give time to your family and those that are
Interested in the truth and you know, that's that's what's gonna make a big difference is when people actually put their time effort energy and money in the right spots
So I hope that's kind of an answer to your question
No, it's a it's a great answer and it's one that is selfless, right?
You're not saying hey go here and donate to my cause but rather to the the cause that is just merely seeking out the truth and for
Individuals to find some kind of relationship with with God, which is you know really the the message that I think everybody can get behind
universally
To open things up to some of the questions. I know that eyes to see had their hand up
If others want to pop up here and certainly, you know, kind of ask for some of the expertise
of band pastor, certainly feel free to request a mic.
If not, we'll go to eyes to see and then go over to Sean.
Yeah, I appreciate the conversation very much fellas as a lifelong conspiracy theorist
I'm not trying to act like I'm anything special because I'm not I left church as a teenager and
I found my way back to find out that what I believe now is Jesus Christ is the ultimate truth and
It's not about going to church. It's about a relationship with God and I feel like
I had a blind faith as a young man, and now that I'm an adult, my faith is far from blind.
It's based on logic, it's based on evidence, historical evidence.
There's a lot of fake history, there's a lot of nonsense going on.
They want everybody completely lost and confused, but we're not.
I'm personally standing on solid ground and a fine fingerprint on the text that you won't
see if you never look.
And I just wanted to give my take, my perspective on that.
Again, appreciate the conversation, fellas.
Yeah, thanks for your comments, you know, again, I think people a lot of times are just jaded against church because they've been in a lot
Of bad churches, but the word the word church and the Bible is just meaning congregation
So it's just other believers and and really that's what the devil wants is us to not be united and not not get together
And have friendships and fellowship. I mean church what it's supposed to do is iron supposed to sharpen iron
And we're supposed to be around other like-minded believers who have a love and a zeal for the truth
and are actually going to fight the good fight of faith and encourage each other and come alongside
each other. The Bible says two are better than one. And so that's why I do emphasize going to a
good church. And of course, there's not a lot of great churches in this world. But, you know,
if you're interested, you could always email our church. We'll try to, you know, help you find one
in your area. Of course, you're always welcome to visit our church too. But there's, you know,
there is a lot of bad churches out there. And so I empathize with people from having bad experiences.
the institution is not bad. It's just you might have been around some bad people that
didn't actually have a zeal or love for the truth. So, conspiracy theorists as well. So,
appreciate those comments.
Yeah, and Ben, what would, for people that are listening that might not have approximated you and are looking for something that's in their neck of the woods, what, you know, a couple things, three, five things, would you recommend that they use as kind of a barometer to try and figure out who might be a better church than others, right?
Is it a conversation with one of the pastors? Is it something about the organization? What would you look for?
Yeah, I would look for a Baptist church that's King James only and believe salvation by faith.
Those are probably the three most important. There's a website called Military Get Saved
that you can go and there's about 7,000 churches that they have listed. Not all of those are good
and not every fundamental Baptist church is good, but those are going to typically be your best bets.
I also believe the new IFB is a great movement and there's several churches in the new IFB that
are not only just in the United States, they're actually in the world. There's places in Canada.
There's a church in Vancouver, Washington, near Portland. There's a church in Sacramento,
California, Verity Baptist Church. The one in Sher Foundation is in Vancouver, Washington. There's
a church in South part of California in kind of Orange County, LA area. First works Baptist Church,
Great Church, Faithward Baptist Church in Tempe or Phoenix, Arizona. Pastor Steven Anderson is a
And I'm not gonna remember all the ones off top of my head, but there's there's lots of
Churches out there that you could find. I think that that's gonna be your best bet is finding people that
You would be surprised are actually awake on a lot of these issues. They're they actually know, you know
What's going on with Zionism and how it's fake?
they are aware of a lot of the injustices going on by our government and
9-eleven's an inside job and in all kinds of different things like that and so, you know
It's just that there's a lot of churches that
Are just kind of a social club
and it's just babysitting a bunch of goats, you know?
So, I mean, at the end of the day,
like you can't get back,
like this is how I look at our government.
There's nothing wrong with the Constitutional Republic.
The problem is that we have a bunch of bad politicians and leaders in that government.
The structure of our government's fine.
You know, the Constitution's fine if we actually did what it said.
It's the problem is, and again, church is fine if they actually did what they said.
But you got women pastors, you have the Pentecostal nonsense of people just getting up
and blabbing things they don't even understand what they're saying.
And you have, of course...
anything Catholic or Catholic light, basically teaching all kinds of hardcore work salvation.
So you do have to avoid obviously a lot to find the truth, but that's just how the world is.
The devil has the father of lies and he has his minions out there and we need to avoid them.
You know, it's probably better to go to not go to church than to go to a bad church,
like one that has the wrong gospel, but it's still better to go to a good church than to not. So
I just want to know abs. Yeah, absolutely. And for folks, uh, Michael O'Neill, uh, put into the chat asking, um, if there's a way to get some of your content via sites like Facebook, uh, given some of the changes on censorship that, that Zuckerberg is promised. I don't know if he's actually delivered on it, but, um, are you guys putting content out there? And if so, where could people, uh, go to visit, you know, either live feeds or other, other information from you guys.
Yeah, the best, uh, we are on rumble.
And so you could find the Baptist bias on rumble, you could find steadfast on rumble our church
websites, sbckjb.com. We do have a Facebook page for the Baptist bias, but I can't completely
control it because I got nuked personally from it. But I do try to put some things out there
has links to all of that podcast stuff. So we do a lot of podcast things that has some links
if you're interested in kind of more of the public sphere that I'm able to enter into. Of
course helping me grow on Twitter and I'm trying to use that as best I can. Obviously Twitter has
its pros and cons. Rumble is a great platform as far as streaming is concerned, but I can't
if uh that ever happens but we also send out we have movie tickets that we print and make for
our church films and stuff we send them out if you ever want them you could email us and we'll
just send you a bunch and you can can them out to every want so we're all about getting the
information out there uh but obviously there's a reason why i'm banned uh they don't want the
truth to get out there and so in fact i if you go to the adl website it's funny i'm actually a
Who cares about this small, you know, medium size?
I mean, we have a couple hundred people that go to our church, but it's like, it's not like a Joel Osteenstice church.
It's like, why do they care so much?
It's, they just know how powerful the truth is.
And so if we can get enough people just to rally around the truth, it can really have a big impact.
No, and I mean all on that when it when it comes to the the impact I mean it obviously you've had an immense one
The fact that all these social media apps are trying to censor and suppress
Your your you know the truth that you're bringing it to me anyway
It's a demonstrative that that the things that you're sharing are not only righteous
But are also scary to those people in charge which it
You know, I just find that rather comical, right, that the ADL is terrified of what you're pushing out when everything that I've heard thus far is just a
a call for that, which is good, and is defined as good based on, you know, essentially a philosophy, a set of ethics and morality that goes back at this point thousands of years.
And it really is unfortunate that we see that group of people
with so much power where they can normalize basically evil as if it is the good
and they can say that that which is good is somehow evil so
uh... i'm i'm i'm just certainly happy to be able to be here
to to try and you know bring additional attention to the work that you're
doing
uh... and with that being said i i i know we got some additional questions i'll
i'd be curious if uh... if shawn or if not if if complier mancos has uh...
Yeah, I just want to be careful about how I'm asking these questions because I don't want to like take us off subject
But you know the things that we're discussing with the Christian church including like the Bolshevik wars where we believe that
66 almost 60 million Christians were wiped off the face of the earth
You know as a Christian that really affects me here in that, you know
I know in that some of those things affect our world today
I've been, thanks for uncensored, I've been looking at the Protocols of Zion, so I'm glad
you mentioned it.
I've been struggling to try and find ways to verify the information because when you
start talking about this and you start putting the pieces together, you get some pushback
from people.
Do you know what I mean?
Including when you're trying to put some of these kind of obvious parts of history together.
I know that you mentioned the expulsions and I was interested to hear about some of the
were pushed out of Iraq and finding out those reasons why they did that in the 1940s and 50s.
And of course we talk about Egypt as well where they seized Jewish businesses and in Morocco
where they were pushed back to Israel and France indeed. So you know and even then like I look at
some of these expulsions, you know, and one of the quotes I just like to lay before that I'll
let you give to Hans is, our kingdom will be distinguished by nepotism.
of such magnificent proportions that it will wipe out any nation that poses us and so i've been going
through these kind of protocols that's protocol three i've been going through these protocols
and trying to pcs things together so i'll just go back to listener and i'd be really interested
to listen to a lot more of this space thank you ian as well thanks for bringing me up
yeah thanks to the speaker and
Of course, there's gonna be pushback on both sides,
and of course you see injustices
to all kinds of different people.
I think that we can at least admit
that there's been injustices to people
that are ethnically Jewish,
and so we don't wanna necessarily think,
I mean, some of them are victims.
I think that the large percentage of people
that were Jews were kind of victims
of the power-hungry elites.
from World War II and those that, in many cases,
even sold out their own brothers for all kinds of evil.
You see the Rothschilds and you see different individuals,
basically just admitting to some of the atrocities
that they committed at their own hands,
or adding out their own people.
George Soros is kind of like his own an informant against these people. And so, you know, I also
empathize and say like, Hey, if there's a Jew out there.
that wants to believe in Jesus Christ and be saved,
that they need to also do so.
And I love that person as an individual.
So, but I think at the same time,
we have to recognize, hey, there's still a problem here.
And we need to talk about why you have, you know,
the problems that you're having,
why there's issues, why there's pushback,
why there's hatred.
I mean, you know, there's always talk about anti-Semitism
that exists in our world.
You always have to ask this question like, why?
I mean, are people just randomly just waking up and just deciding like I'm just going to hate a
group of people for no reason, and we're going to just make laws to just outlaw this group of people
just, you know, throughout history and all these different countries for just no reason?
Like, you know, why doesn't anybody just ask like, why is there antisemitism?
We seem to always say like there is a bunch, but then it's like, well, why?
And like, what's the real thing that's going on?
So I appreciate those comments.
I forgot one church. I want to recommend, if you're in Oklahoma City, you got to go to
Anchor Baptist Church with Pastor Dylan Oz. He's also someone that has made a big splash
and got a lot of national attention and billions of views on TikTok for some of his preaching. But
Oklahoma City, you got to go to Anchor Baptist Church.
Thanks. I just wanted to respond quickly to that. You know, what I believe is personally, you know,
When you look at this, this whole thing, and you said about, you know, there being innocent Jews,
I'm, I would believe you on that, but, but what I also believe is that, that you, that, that Jews are very,
that, that this thing that hides behind, I would call it Jewish supremacy, they need some kind of...
Innocent scapegoat right and so that's what they tend to do is they make this innocent scapegoat and it has to be true right it can't be it can't all be falsified so they need a section of people right.
who generally believe that there's something good about what their religion is, right?
That allows it to become more believable in the world about why we allow the evils to creep into this world.
Does that make sense of what I'm saying?
So as I look through all of this, what I see is a scapegoat throughout history,
each time that we try to challenge this through these expulsions, where they say,
hey, we're all innocent.
And then they go back to another country and do the same over and over and over and over again, you know?
And so that's, that's, that's what I would say on that. Sorry, I'll let people speak now.
So I'm sure we've got hands up.
No, I think that was a great point. And I agree with you that they, they kind of like use, they use a low level
shoes as a kind of a punching bag. They do a bunch of bad stuff.
and then put a bunch of people in harm's way,
and then they say, oh, look, we're victims
and we're being attacked.
And so it's kind of like a double win for them.
And so I definitely think that they need those victims,
but I think that they are in many cases,
some of them are kind of victims.
I think it's kind of a two-edged sword.
some of them are victims, some of them are kind of like claiming to be victims but they kind of
know what's going on too. It's kind of like the gangster wife who she she doesn't know that her
husband is killing a bunch of people and murdering them and what he's doing at night but she does
know that she's getting a bunch of money and it doesn't really make sense and so it's kind of like
is she a victim when she's harmed because of her husband's occupation and it's like is she really
uh... you know i guess that's for a lot of people kind of to decide but
no appreciate those comments
you know and and it's it's funny i've always found that uh... dynamic curious
because
uh... you know uh... will go into spaces and i'll talk about what i believe is
essentially jewish privilege in the western world and people say what's
wrong with that and i say well wasn't white privilege the problem for like
four generations according to the media
and uh... and and and people say well i mean maybe it was it's like no
I mean, it's literalist 10, 15 years ago it was demanded by the media that just because you're a white that you had a subconscious bias and all of this other kind of stuff and i
i just suggested because the i would agree with you i think there is a benefit that a lot of individuals that you know they're not necessarily nefarious but they're receiving that bias that for so long the media screen was actually benefiting white people and it's like
we see all around us obviously that has not been the case.
uh... but i i would agree with you and where i i think a lot of people
in jewish community are frankly just
uh... they're indifferent to knowing these truths uh... they they benefit from
them existing whether or not they acknowledge them openly
uh... or whether or not they can participate willingly in it it's it's
still there
uh... and simultaneously that the shawls point
you know the same group of people that are having that what i would find is
privilege
also believe themselves the victims of this endless animus and bigotry and all these other
kind of things so it's this very and that's why i do look into the the genetics and it's not something
that you necessarily um wanted to tether yourself to but i i you know if nothing else there is
certainly a an over representation of things like schizophrenia paranoia all of these other
behavioral characteristics that loosely would reflect things like narcissistic personality
If you just look at the religion, the idea of being the victim while victimizing others, it kind of fits perfectly into that
NPD psychological profiling. But that's a much larger conversation
But but either way would love to see if if man goes cost or comply. I have a question for for band
Go for it cost
Cool, thanks for letting me up great space. I had a question for bad bad pastor
What evil specifically are you referring to a National Socialist Germany? I?
Guess I don't remember it. Can you remind me of the quote a little bit more what I would what I brought up?
Well, basically about what, you know, the evils, the so-called evils that the Germans did because
in my estimation, National Socialist Germany is not only the greatest civilization that's ever
existed on the face of the earth and all of human history, it's actually the most Christian as well.
And that's why America, Jewish America decided to destroy it. So, quarantining and segregating
Jews is not an evil. It's actually, it's a, it's a justice and it's moral. Christians,
are fundamentally, I'm a Christian, we are fundamentally incompatible with these people,
we have no business living anywhere near them, especially allowing them into our civilization.
So I don't, I don't see what the Germans did as being not just wrong, but especially not evil.
Well, I guess, you know, for me, like when it comes to just war in general,
there's going to be collateral damage. And so the word evil can be interpreted as like wicked or
And you could do evil to someone that deserves it.
You can do harm to someone that does deserve it and it's not necessarily wicked.
But I think at the very least, everyone would have to acknowledge that when you have worldwide
war, there's going to be women and children and different people that are just casualties of war
and that evil happened unto them, regardless of what your position is on who's the right,
who's the most right when it comes to a particular conflict.
I don't think that there's anything wrong with having expelled Jews from Germany or wanting to rid themselves from all the
Transgenderism and all the nonsense they're bringing to their country
I do think that you know when it comes to Hitler specifically Hitler was not a Christian
I think he had a Catholic upbringing and really didn't adhere to that very much
Hitler had ideas to
extract a lot of land from the east and he attacked obviously a lot of different countries and so
I like personally don't really agree with Hitler's actions. I don't think that Hitler was a good guy
I think Hitler had a satanic influence as well because you could see all the pagan idolatry
In their worship ceremonies. It was what I would call it when they're going up and parading all kinds of
graven images and satanic imagery. And there was a lot of evil people in the Nazi party. That
doesn't mean that they don't have a right to exist as a country. That doesn't mean that they
don't have the right to defend themselves from just communism or poverty or whatever. I just
don't know that I could say I personally agree with how they handled that. I don't really agree
My perspective, like I'm coming to it from a more of a religious perspective, you know, Hitler's not a saved Christian
He's not someone that was seeking for the truth of the Bible. He didn't want to see people saved
He he killed a lot of people through his act
Can I just interject that essentially everything that skim out of your mouth is factually false and it's probably propaganda?
We actually just had a two-and-a-half hour space on positive Christianity
Especially dispelled everything that skim out of your mouth
I would could you just point out one statement because I don't I don't think anything. I said was wrong
Essentially all of it that you okay you whether or not you agree with Hitler. I really don't care. That's not important
But when you're when you're passing off statements as fact and you put a 40 behind them like he wasn't a Christian
Well, that's that may be your opinion, but the fact is that this there's
More than enough evidence and I'm I'm actually surprised that HSG is not in here. So fact. So Hitler fact is a Christian
That's that's you're gonna tell Hitler Hitler fractually was a Christian. Yes
He was a Catholic and he had here to it and again
We just had you're more than welcome to listen to the like differentiated
I differentiated from Christians and Catholics and then I additionally said that he had a Catholic upbringing, but
Are you telling me that he went to mass every single every single service and that he did very you there's
Negate them being a Christian at all that doesn't
that that simply does not disqualify you from being a Christian.
Yeah, this is your misunderstanding of religious terminology.
Coming from the guy who preaches the King James only,
The Johanine controversy that you're clearly not aware of. There's certainly nothing wrong with NIV. So this whole like
Southern Baptist, uh, King James version only crock of shit that you're pushing. That's all fine. I really don't care
But when you're slandering Adolf Hitler was one of the greatest Christians probably the the greatest Christian outside of the 12th
It was that ever walk the face here in in a homosexual empire like the United States
That that had it segregated racially segregated military that fought against the non-segregated German
I don't think as an American you have any moral ground whatsoever to complain about the SS their command or the Christianity of that empire
Eight off Hitler is the greatest Christian. That's that's hilarious brother. That's hilarious
You come out to these spaces and you are you are essentially
Keeping other white men in the maze of this homosexual democracy
There's Roman homosexual
There's no one on this planet that has a brain in their head
that would say that I'm advocating for homosexuality.
I'm literally banned on every single platform
for calling for them to be publicly executed
by the government.
You literally said I'm keeping white men
into this homosexual,
but it's like everything you're seeing is nonsense.
And you're just, you're like irrational
and you're just screaming.
You can't even plot one thing I said wrong.
You come in here and say, I said all these lies
and you can't even prove one thing wrong
eight off Hitler's the greatest Christian ever pulling bullshit out of your ass that Hitler's not a
Hitler's not a Christian isn't propaganda. How is that propaganda? That's not propaganda.
Who agrees with this fact? I mean, obviously online historical references. I mean, do you
did you read Mein Kampf? Did you read Mein Kampf and he say like I'm a Christian? Give me the quote
where he says he's a Christian or anything close to that. I mean, you're just you're just saying
So, is there going to be anybody else that's going to push back on this guy or Arnold?
I love pushback, but you know, you just, you didn't push back on anything.
You just made outrageous claims that are not true.
I can actually back up band a little bit if you actually look at the writings
including the private diaries and private letters of
Spear and gore and gobbles
They all said by later in the war that Hitler had a negative view of Christianity and that he was critical of Christianity
But he had to keep up for appearances
You know that he wasn't going to go publicly kind of against it, but privately that he was
Who cares about that at all?
That's the problem with people who are obsessed with religion and period
Because you're not going to create an harmonic code on natural order just by thinking that your way is the only way
for all humanity
Right and it's all religious thing about you a Christian if you go every single sunday and almost the sunday
It's the only thing that you stand for is kind of
It sounds a little crazy to me. I mean, if you're not spiritually attached to God or God in you or believe in God
I
Don't know. I mean, it doesn't make it any better going to church
Do you at all?
Well, I think to say to somebody if you don't go to church every sat Sunday and then a Christian enough on a Christian
It's just it's a little crazy
Just saying I think that was a little much there, but anyways a lot of other things. I wanted to ask Colin Colin
cost just point itself out about
Hitler
And him being not a Christian a bad man said that he's not a Christian
And that he doesn't like Christianity and that he pushed that he was kind of what do you say about?
Satanic stuff then and some satanic rituals and all that what kind of stuff did you just talk about?
Yeah, if you look at just a German ceremony, they have all of this different pagan idolatry that's coming from Greek mythology
Then passed down to the Romans and you can see all the different the birds and all the different graven images that they have
Incorporated and what's supposed to panic about that?
I don't know. Graven image raven images is part of the Ten Commandments is something that you're not supposed to do
You're not supposed to make great, but you're gonna you're gonna think they cast
Yeah, you're yeah, I mean look that's gonna be where we separate and that's fine. You can be that but
You know, yeah, what are you banned pastor? He's gonna be like anti-catholic anti-penicom. Yeah, I'm a very like run of them
You know, you're like, uh, do you know of maybe someone that we can kind of at least have in common a little bit?
I enjoyed the work of
Even though he would hate me, I'm sure because I am Catholic, but fighting for the faith with Chris Roseboro.
No, no, no, I know. You know what I mean, though. You know what I mean?
You hate Catholicism, right? Like, Catholicism, hateism, or heresy or something, right?
Yeah, I mean, either way. But, I mean, no, I get what you're saying there, but no, I mean...
I'm gonna take a very cautious Hitler's religion is difficult to pin down exactly. I think early in his life
It's extremely easy
It's the last couple years he gets a little bit iffy maybe
But definitely early in his life started out Christian started out cast like had some issues once he encountered the Jewish question
But I think even later on here. I here's my position
I don't think he was lying to his people when he said in speeches my lord and savior and Christ
you know, that when he would say things like that,
people are gonna have to take the position
that Hitler was lying to his people.
I don't take that, I don't know what your thoughts
are on Hitler though, that would be my thing.
But I mean, I'm pro Hitler as can be.
And yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit here and say that I'm an expert on his religion
But at the same time if someone told me Donald Trump's a Christian because in his speech he mentioned God or
Joe Biden's a Christian because he mentioned in his speech God like I think that that's a little bit of a stretch
It's a bit of a straw man to just say that he mentioned in his speech. It's it's not just the mentioning of his speech, but also the
You know, they suppose we'll have Christian values throughout the entirety of Germany at the time.
Well, of course, he...
And he spoke about it in his speech many times as well.
I would say that Hitler for sure emboldened Christianity and Catholicism in the country,
because you had this Jewish takeover which was basically ruining the country.
And I think what people just don't understand.
is it doesn't matter what religion you have. You have to have ideological continuity to be strong
as a nation. And so if you want a nation to be strong, you can't be divided ideologically because
you're not going to have that unity that's going to allow you to have your strength. And so whether
it be any religion you pick or any nation or any country that's strong, it's going to be based on
a diaspora of views and atheism and all kinds of stuff, it's going to weaken that group of people.
People are strong in numbers and what unites them is having common ideas, common values,
common beliefs. That's why America was great. That's why America is the nation that it is.
People just don't realize how ideologically continuity of America was all the way up until
America was like 90% white and pretty much everyone was evangelical. Pretty much everybody's a Christian and they had gotten away from
Catholicism by and large. I mean you could not even be a Catholic in the state of Georgia until the 1900s and so
They weren't allowed to practice. You had Mary land specifically for the Catholics to go in Baltimore because the rest of the country
rejected Catholicism. So
when I'm differentiating between Christian and Catholic,
that's not me coming up with stuff.
That's just history.
Just fact that there was,
there's a distinction between Christians and Catholics.
And it's not like a,
it's not like a surprise when someone says,
hey, Hitler's not a Christian,
even though he obviously Catholic influenced,
Catholic upbringing,
he obviously was very pro those religions
being able to do their thing
because he needed that to have the support of the people.
As far as how much he believed in Catholicism, no one knows what was in his heart or anything
like that, but yeah, I'm not pro-Hitler as a person, I definitely think that he has his flaws.
I just think that he's been obviously lied about and demonized and, you know, more so
because they need him to be the biggest enemy of World War II. And I don't believe he was
necessarily the biggest enemy of World War II. I think he was a pawn of dark forces.
and he basically got destroyed as a result of being the pawn.
What were his flaws exactly?
Well, he's not Christian. He's Catholic. Additionally, he made a lot of bad decisions.
Let's make a clarification here. Okay.
Catholicism is a sect of Christianity, right?
And you know, as a Catholic, I'd argue that it is, you know, what you would argue is true Christianity.
But you're making a differentiation between Catholicism and Christianity, which isn't true.
You would need to hold a position that he wasn't, you know, a Protestant in some sort of a former fashion,
whether or not that's Baptist, evangelical, or what have you, right?
But Catholics are Christian.
I don't even know. Most Protestants wouldn't even argue that.
I I knock on doors every week and I literally knock on people's doors and they say are you a Christian and they say no
I'm Catholic so you're gonna have to educate a lot of people on this subject because I don't I don't care what random people
I don't care what random people that you knocked on the doors of say about Christianity and whether or not they
I don't really view as you know your anecdotal experiences as you know fact or anything like that
And not actually not ninety not at basically everybody understands that Catholicism is Christianity, right?
There is a differentiation between you know, different sex
But the point doesn't matter that the label doesn't matter the point is that there's people that
Obviously don't adhere to the Catholic Church the Catholic Church would think that I'm not a part of them
The Catholics would not say that I'm right, but they wouldn't say you're not Christian
Well, you have to give me some label
And that labels different than catholic. So you just said labels don't matter. I don't understand that. And then you said that
Well, he's just not having a conversation. He's arguing about semantics here as opposed to the point that's being
As a non-Christian and as a muslim you're confusing me so i'm trying to down as some kind of um
road here to follow. But is there a difference between Shiite and Sunni Muslims? No, no, no.
Don't try to derail. Don't try to deflect. I'm respecting that. I'm not deflecting. I want
to ask, is there a difference between Sunni and Shiite Muslims or are they all the same?
Well, I can actually turn around that you've got just as much sectarianism in your Christian
belief in your Cajun religion as much as Islam does, but we're not going to derail the space.
What I'm asking you is, what did Hitler do in your opinion did not make him a Christian?
Before we get into his exact, because the semantics matter, right, like to say that the semantics
don't matter whenever we're talking about the definition of Christianity is kind of a non-starter,
like of course this matters, we're trying to hammer out definitions here, and so the semantics
do matter, right? I mean you had just said it yourself there, you consider Sunni and Shia to be
both Muslim, that would be the same
definition that we would, that basically everyone operates under when we're
considering the different sects of Christianity. Basically no one argues that Catholicism isn't
Christianity, but it seems to me that you're making a position that it is. So that's the
definition that I'm trying to kind of iron out here. Do you not consider Catholicism Christianity or
Sure, so the word Christian can have two different meanings in my mind at least one would be just anybody that adheres to anything
That has to do with Christ and that's the definition you keep using and I'm using Christian as someone that actually believes
I haven't given you I haven't given you my definition right not the straw man here. I'm trying to be good faith
I haven't given you my position or definition yet, so I wouldn't put words in my mind
Okay, based on based on the conversation we've had
No, no, that's the same definitions that Muslims do to each other when they want to sit there and
discuss sectarianism and when they want to deflate and deflect them. They want to say blah, blah,
blah. That's exactly the same way that Muslims do it. It's amazing how so much, so much similarities
when people say that only sectarian exists in the Islamic religion, but really it's
clear by your definition that sectarianism also is within the Christian religion.
But the other answer to the question, what is it about Hitler to you that appeared that he was not a
Yeah, he didn't have faith in Jesus Christ as faith alone. He obviously adhered to Catholicism if you hear
You can't determine a person's intent. I'm talking to you about action. You can never you can never determine a person's intent
That is between the person and God. Okay, so what I'm asking you by actions
What is it that he did?
30,000
Yeah, again, I agree with I disagree with lots of actions of Hitler
Obviously, you know, he shouldn't have invaded all kinds of different countries and taken over land. That's another line
He did not invade France
The guy bro, bro, Ben
Let's do one at a time real fast with Ben. I would like to take a call in
Kind of give him a little bit of some education. Let the guy kind of go but but bad really you need to understand
History before you talk about it. You don't like that he invaded countries. You don't understand why he did it
So I'll actually call and do it because he's very good at it. Just hear him out
So you understand where we're coming from?
This is just this is brother. Let me know really like the question wasn't about motive. It was just action
I was asked an action. He literally like the action. Whoa, whoa, whoa
Well, there's for every action. There's a reason, right? I'm not saying that I would like to get into Hitler's flaws
But I want to kind of go step by step here hang on and Colin real real quick
I just want to I want to thank I want to thank you Colin
For the way that you always, you know kind of conduct yourself at these back and forth
I want to thank Wolf for setting the tone and not allowing this to just become a dog pile.
And I also want to thank Bandpastor for coming to this and being willing to take a position
that frankly in some of the JQ spaces that we often find ourselves is one that's contrarian.
right? There's obviously going to be a lot more admiration for things that were done by the
national socialists and their role of condemnation by many that are in this room. But I want to
make sure that the same way that I would kind of critique the FBAs for jumping up and down and
slamming their hands on the table, the moment that I bring up things about IQ studies and all
this other kind of stuff. If BAN pushes back, let's try to
you know, similarly conduct ourselves at the high level of intellectual and emotional excellence
that I think everyone up here on this panel is certainly capable of and always demonstrates
just so that we can keep this super productive and make it a positive experience for everybody
where nobody's leaving feeling like they're just getting punched to get punched, but rather to
share information and make it a productive conversation. So with that, Colin, I know that
you'll certainly do so, but I just figured I'd set that stage and also thank Band for
you know, for for being willing to do this, because a lot of people would probably have
just gotten up and set a couple nasty things and walked out of the room at this point.
And so I want to, you know, compliment him for certainly not doing so.
Yeah, thanks, Ian. And then, yeah, we'll, I always want to keep it high, bro.
You know, that's the priority here.
Yeah. And that's why I said, call him, please.
And that's just not like there's probably stuff coming.
Like it just seems like band needs just, you know, we can have open dialogue,
but let's not attack him. I mean, yeah, 100 percent.
Yeah, so before we get into, you know, Hitler and his flaws because I do want to know your position on that, right?
Um, I still want to hammer out the definitions here of what you consider
Catholicism to be exactly and whether or not of course we consider, you know, Hitler to be Christian or not would be, you know
The next question and then his flaws and what he did wrong would be, you know, the part after that, right? So
mean your position here seems to be because right like I would agree with
you on your definition of Christianity right this is people that follow the
teachings of Jesus okay this is the would I think be the you know the the
majority's opinion of what Christianity is okay and then within each sect of
Christianity whether or not we're talking about the various Protestant sects
we're talking about Catholicism or orthodoxy these would be the different
interpretations of what Jesus Christ taught right so
mean that would be my definition of what Christianity is. I don't know if you differ
here or whether or not you then consider Catholicism to be something that isn't,
that doesn't fit that definition. I want to hammer out these definitions first before we
kind of go any further, otherwise we're just kind of going to be arguing past each other.
No, again, I think I use the word Christian in multiple ways and I do use the word Christian at times the way you just
Defined it and I agree. It's that it's that sometimes when I'm using the word Christian
I'm referring to in my mind those who are the true followers of Christ that could quote true Christians
So if you know again, obviously, I'm not saying you agree with that
Someone who's Catholic would would argue with me and say they're the true Christians, right?
So I'm just kind of throwing out that
I was more trying to say maybe evangelical or as some people call Protestant as differentiating
from Catholicism, saying that Hitler's not really an evangelical or a Protestant.
He was of the Protestant sect.
So hopefully that brings clarity to what I did try to communicate and my definitions.
Okay, so this is where I would sort of, I mean, we can disagree on whether or not what we consider to be true Christianity, but
you know, obviously Catholics would disagree with your position that, you know,
evangelicals are true Christianity. But then in that definition alone of true Christianity, that sort of is a
you know, a sub-definition of its own, which kind of points to the fact that Christianity
definitionally is just following, again, the teachings of Jesus, and then within there
we will decide what those interpretations of those teachings are, and then that will
determine what sect you don't know as, right?
So...
whether or not you consider Catholicism true Christianity or not, right?
That's not really the definition that I'm operating under here,
or what I think that the definition of Christianity is in general. Of course,
you would think that Catholicism isn't true Christianity,
and most Catholics would argue that Protestantism isn't true Christianity,
but no one would argue that either of those sects aren't Christianity in general, right?
Again, it just depends on what context we're using that term, because I agree, Christian
can be anybody within Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholic, or some variation of Protestant evangelical.
Okay, great. Okay. So then we agree then on the definition of Christian in general. So whenever we're, you know, having this conversation, it would be best then because I would refer to Catholicism in specific, and I would then prefer to evangelicalism in specific.
And then I would refer to Orthodoxy specifically as well whenever we're discussing the each of these sex. I would never say, for example, you know, I'm a Christian and people who are Protestant aren't Christian.
Uh, we're actually discussing here. I wouldn't say that it's not Christianity, but either way,
now that we've got the definitions hammered out here, so what exactly what flaws did Hitler have?
I mean, again, Hitler, obviously, if you just go from a sin perspective,
he obviously committed fornication,
He committed all kinds of other sins that are mentioned in the Bible, so if you just say like
an individual, he was not an upstanding character that just had one wife and raised a godly family
and just went to church. Obviously, he's someone that has all kinds of character flaws. Additionally,
I disagree with his religious sect. If you want to get nitpicky about which form of Christianity
party, specifically when it comes to his actions as a leader. I think that he made a lot of
flaws too, but that doesn't mean that I think he's the person that the media is portraying him as.
It doesn't mean that I think everything he did was wrong, because at the end of the day,
he in many cases was trying to liberate himself from a very oppressive government system and
a lot of evils that were in his society. So I don't want to, I think that people kind of get
everything. If someone's not pro-Hitler, they just believe everything that someone has said
about him online or something like that or every textbook. Obviously, Germany has created some of
the best auto manufacturing, chocolate, science, all kinds of different advancements happened
under his leadership. They had the 1936 Olympics. Obviously, the Germans were very smart, very
You could look at a lot of those things and say, okay, maybe we could learn some stuff from this.
Maybe we could learn from some of these things.
But again, yeah, I personally disagree with the need to destroy France and the UK and all these different things.
If you think those were justified, then I think you made a lot of flaws there too.
He should have destroyed.
Britain before he went and attacked Russia.
Additionally, obviously, he should have withdrawn troops from the front lines of Russia after he invaded and not allowed
many of them to die from frostbite and
hypothermia and to make sure that the supply lines were taken well taken care of.
You could argue that maybe declaring war on the United States was a bad move
because of the fact that we got involved and we helped to
destroy the German
party so I think you know when we talk about flaws like there's not a person
on this earth that doesn't have flaws the Bible says for all of sin and come
short of the glory of God no one's perfect Hitler is certainly not perfect
Do think that there was dark forces behind the scenes that are probably worse than Hitler was and of course
I believe that you know in some ways he might have been fighting our common foe
But at the end of the day like Hitler was a force of evil in my opinion
I believe he adhered to Darwinism and evolution and he had very
Satanic ideology when it comes to humanity. So I strongly disagree with Hitler in a lot of ways
but I can also understand that he had some positives.
That's my personal opinion on the topic.
Obviously, many people are going to disagree with that.
So when it comes to his adherence to, you know, Protestant definitions of Christianity and whether or not that would be a character flower
or not would be something that's, you know, altogether subjective and not something that, you know, people that aren't Protestant would agree with, right?
So I don't know if, you know, I'm not...
Does the Catholic Church teach it's okay to have married relations with somebody not married to?
Well, it's not really a boy. Again, this would the same problem would arise with that, right?
So if we're gonna say that it's a character flaw frame to not adhere to it to a
Catholicism's definition of a character flaw as well would be altogether subjective, right?
So then in that I don't how is it subjective?
I just asked does the Catholic Church teach that it's okay to sleep with someone that you're not well, it would be
Well, it would be subjective to the definition of whether or not you consider not following Christianity to be a character flaw
I just ask, does the Catholic Church teach it's wrong to sleep with someone that you're not married to?
Yeah, again, you're not you're completely overlooking the point that I'm making here
We're talking about Hitler's law but Colin hang on like just just and I'm not trying to play good cop bad
Cop or anything along those lines, but he's just asking a pretty direct question, right?
I think it's reasonable to give a direct answer and then then we can also
You know we can suggest how it might not be relevant for the the larger point you're trying to make but I think we can all agree that yes
Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. I mean, yes, clearly. Yes, clearly prohibited. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, cool
and here I did that and
So that's a flaw. I mean, some people are trying to tell me he had no flaws.
Like, what does that even mean?
No, no, no, no, no. It would be a flaw to a Catholic or it would be a flaw to a Protestant,
but Muslims wouldn't find...
But isn't that the context of saying he's not a good Christian or Catholic if he's doing that?
Well, I didn't make the argument that he's not a good Catholic or Christian.
I'm asking about whether or not he's a good person and his character flaws in general, right?
Not an adherence to the definition of any Christian sect, Muslim sect, or, you know,
any particular religious sect. We're just talking about his net characteristics and whether or
not he was a good or bad person, right? Whether or not he followed and adhered to, you know,
Christian moral, Christian ethics isn't really the question at hand. It was whether or not,
Based on if I can't use Christianity, how do I determine if someone's good or bad if I can't use the Bible?
Well, you could use it
I mean Muslims would argue you could use the Quran, a lot of secular people would argue you can use moral or you could use
You know, I could use another religious text, but how could I judge someone's character without a religious text?
Well, we would be looking at the net positives versus net negatives of the person, right?
Based on what?
So whenever we look at whether or not
Well, even if we looked at it, even if we looked at it based on Christian ethics, right?
You could, you could argue, yes, like he did practice adultery, right?
So if he goes ahead and he does that, like, that's, doesn't it here do?
Christian ethics, but then there were plenty of other things that he did do that did adhere
to Christian ethics.
And then plenty of people would make the argument that he did more in adherence to Christian
ethics than he did not adhere to Christian ethics, right?
And so then if you were to dam all of the good things that he did simply because he
didn't follow one piece of Christian ethics, I don't think people would then make the argument
that that makes him a bad person as you did, right?
No, but actually, and look, maybe this is a good place to come in and suggest that there's
a lot of gray area between the black and white idea that somebody is perfect and that they
are, you know, the embodiment of evil.
And I think what's been interesting about this is that we've seen that...
You know, perhaps we all know the mainstream media's portrayal and essentially all of society's portrayal that, you know, Adolf Hitler was the Wolfenstein
Villain, right? He came back as as I think it was like super Mecca Hitler by the end of the video game, right?
And anybody that grew up in the era of the origins of what you call the first person shooter,
they'd be very familiar with that game, right? He's been personified as the ultimate evil of
everything. We've got literal movies about Nazi zombies, right? And obviously that is a
misrepresentation when you start really looking into the history. The national socialists were
not just, you know, satanic devil worshipers trying to bring the world to its knees in inferno.
It also doesn't necessarily have to mean that the inverse is the absolute truth and that
the guy never did anything wrong, didn't ever make any mistakes, or that the National Socialist
didn't have some things that they could have done differently, done better, done whatever.
let's say Jesus Christ and purely evil, let's say Satan, there's a massive chasm and I think what
we could probably agree to disagree on is maybe where on that spectrum that one man or the national
socialists would fall. But the good news is that we're all well, let's say right, if truth is right
and the lies are on the left, we're well right of the Overton window that is the normal understanding
Purely good or mostly good or more good than bad
You know Hitler may have been you guys could probably run around in circles forever
But to just make sure that we don't go you know too far down a pathway that obviously is never going to have you guys
Completely in agreement with each other maybe we can agree that you know that like I said
We're both well, right or everybody's well right of that overton window of normalcy
But just how do we define you know ultimate good and ultimate evil and all that stuff?
So maybe what we could do is
is just give 60 seconds to both Colin and then 60 seconds to Ban
to kind of give their kind of, not final thoughts,
but their thoughts on this subject.
And then we can also go to some additional hands
so that we just don't run around in circles forever.
Right, yeah, so sort of the argument here would be is that Hitler's personal choices within his life such as his like sexual relationship with
Eva Braun and like I mean people plenty of people have made arguments that they didn't even have a sexual relationship, right?
So what I would judge is the information that we do have a guaranteed sort of
Evidential that we have evidence for right as such as him fixing the economy is the good things good deeds that he did for Germany as a
nation the defensive as people
The espoys of Christian ethics across the nation, all of these various things that I think everyone would agree, even Christians, using Christian ethics would agree that are in line with such, right?
So what I would argue is that from a net negative to net positive whether or not Hitler was a good person, like if we were to sort of gauge it on a percentage of Hitler was 60, 70, 80 percent good, I would argue that it's certainly well over the 50 percent.
And if it fell below the 50 percent, then obviously we would go ahead and make the argument that Hitler wasn't a good person.
person, but given all of the things that he did good for his people, the things that he
did good for the identity of Germany as a nation.
And also the things that even how he acted during war, right?
So, you know, you had mentioned that he destroyed or attempted to destroy
France and Britain.
Well, I mean, he sent over 30 peace treaties to the allies during the war.
Everything that he did in terms of invading the various countries
that he invaded were in the defense of his people, such as his invasion
into Germany due to the the holocausting of the German people
and in Leipzig and in the Rhineland.
So, you know, I would argue that as a, you know, if we're looking at this
as net good or net positive, I mean, as.
Ian said, I don't think we're ever going to find common ground. I don't think anyone
could ever find common ground other than probably through Jesus, a pure good, right? But as
far as whether or not Hitler was a good person mostly, I would certainly make that argument
given the evidence of the things that we actually had seen him do during his life.
Yeah, I just want to refresh the audience of where we even came from I
Someone was talking about
Just Jews as a whole and I brought up the concept that I think there's been some Jews that were the casualties of war in
World War two and someone said well
I don't think that Hitler did any evil and then it kind of spiraled into this
Kind of rabbit trail that
is meaningless of trying to just decide exactly how bad or good Hitler is because it's kind
of meaningless. But I do think that he was overall net negative and bad. I do think there
was good things about some of what he did to help the German people. But at the end
of the day, like I do think he was bad. And I can understand when you play the game risk.
if you're in Europe, you gotta attack somebody or you're gonna be attacked. So it's kind of like
survival of the fittest in some sense. So yeah, I understand that when you're surrounded by UK
and Russia and they're making treaties and there's all this animosity, like Hitler could feel like
he's backed into a corner and forced to basically fight for his own survival, or they just went
through World War One. Obviously, I understand all these things that are happening. It doesn't
or say, hey, if I don't agree with what Hitler did,
that means I agree with what the UK did
or what the Britons are doing or the Russians are doing.
Like I can disagree with both sides.
So at the end of the day,
like I don't think Hitler was a net positive.
I do think there was some Jews that were the casualty of war.
And I think that God loves all people.
So to me, I don't want to sit here
and just demonize all Jews.
And I don't want to demonize all Nazis.
And I don't want to demonize
any huge group of people. There's always going to be the evil forces on both sides of some of
these conflicts, and there's going to be the good people on both sides. And so, you know, I think
to me, being a Christian, I want you to be saved. The argument that he invaded these countries,
because he felt backed into a corner, isn't
That's just not what happened, right? Historically, that's not what happened.
He invaded these countries because they were annexed territories where ethnic
German people were being slaughtered and raped. And so after asking with peace
treaties multiple times to end that peacefully and amicably, he ended up
going to war to end up defending his people, right? So this position that he
invaded these countries because he was backed into a corner isn't...
Really what happened and then I also would like I mean you can say that you feel as there was a net negative
But I haven't heard why you think he's in that negative, right?
Like I don't understand I still don't understand your position as to why he was in that negative, right?
You brought up the his personal relationships, which we have a very lacking evidence for
But other than that, I haven't either brown wasn't his girlfriend. I mean, I don't know version of history
Yeah, I mean, yeah
Okay
Even if I grant you all right even if I were to grant you this position that he did have you know out of wedlock
So relations with either one second Joe Bob, please if I grant you that right?
This still doesn't make him evil, right?
And then you haven't given any other positions other than that that you would consider him as such even through a Christian ethics worldview, right?
You know, he wasn't backed into a corner and then just lashed out against the rest of Europe
That's not why he invaded the countries that he invaded, right?
And I haven't heard anything else from you that would you know elicit a position that he was evil
Again, there's just a really quick mass world war where lots of people die. I mean, yeah, so I think that that's
So so so Genesis 12 3 God makes a promise a covenant with Abraham and says
Not only will I bless the nations of the world through your descendants, but anyone who curses you I will curse and anyone
Who blesses you I will bless now are there some Jews in the world even today that have done evil?
Yes, of course, there's evil in every nation
But the book of Ezekiel chapter 38 is very clear that will come a day when the enemies of Israel in a day when no one stands with Israel, not even America says no nation will stand with Israel.
There will come a day when the enemies of Israel will think in their hearts, the Jews think they are the center of the world and they will attack Israel and God will make himself known.
So to discuss the net positive or net negative of Hitler, the fact that 6 million Jews who...
No matter what version of Christianity you're adhering to our God's chosen people and yes after Jesus died on the cross
That was that was definitely not true whatever it was just okay. Okay. Hang on one second one second, but first of all
Everybody in here don't over talk anyone. Okay, just so whoever was just speaking let him finish back continue
Go with hands and we are going to go to hands in a second. I know there's a lot of people have a lot of things to say
But just you know, let's keep it to like maybe I don't know what do you want to do?
Yeah, how many how much time do we have I got another 15 minutes? Obviously, I'll concede
You got another 15 minutes. There you go
Yeah, I wanted to also to notify everybody of that and and it's not like I just want to be very clear
It's not like bands is now just saying oh, I got to go. I gotta he made his time
Limitations crystal clear quite a while back and so I just I want to be very clear on that front
And also it might be a good opportunity because perhaps what we could do is use the next 15 minutes to really you know focus on the the
Religiosity that we were speaking about a little bit before we of course incorporate World War two of people one
to, but knowing that we're then going to be winding this down, I see a lot of familiar
faces up here that are very JQ-centric, and so maybe Wolf, we could use that as an opportunity
to lift and shift the conversation from here into JQ radio if people really want to go
into the intricacies of the Hitler aspect, which, I mean, frankly, I don't think Band
familiar with some of those intricacies than somebody like
FaceCat or cost or some of the others that I see in here
that obviously have really done a lot of the detailed homework on that
specifically.
For what it's worth as well, and I think we're going to find common ground on the disagreement in the definition there that
had creative producer just brought up about the the Jews and
Whether or not they have claimed to being the people of Israel as well
I think that I think that we're probably in agreement there just judging from that little that clip you had made after you finished speaking
Yeah. I mean, everything that guy said was false. Genesis 12 is not about the Jews.
It's about Jesus Christ. And so if you're not a Christian, if you're not saved, then you're not God's chosen people whatsoever.
Six million is a stupid number that was invented prior to World War II. So everything this guy's saying is false.
And it actually just hurts Jews by just repeating all these stupid claims that aren't even legitimate whatsoever.
You, when it comes to religion, you're going to piss people off.
People are very, very opinionated on this topic.
And of course, you know, that's why strength comes with ideological continuity.
I have my beliefs.
I think that that's the truth.
Therefore, that's why, you know, promote those ideologies.
Uh, I'm not a pro Hitler person, but that doesn't mean I have to necessarily
believe all the propaganda that was used to demonize him.
and change who he was. You know, a criminal defense attorney, his goal is for his client to get what's
just. So he doesn't want his client to get an unjust punishment. If he did a crime and he's
guilty of one year in prison, he doesn't want to get the death penalty for his client because that
would be bad. Or if someone was innocent, he doesn't want them to be charged with a criminal
crime that he's not guilty of. I think that Hitler's probably had a lot of baggage with some of the
But I personally do disagree with a lot of his decision-making, his ideological beliefs and viewpoints.
He demonized people based on evolutionary principles.
I strongly disagree with the Darwinism that was brought in by Jews.
So he was influenced by Jews.
I think you have Jews infiltrating the Nazi party and.
Been ruining them too. So, you know, it's a huge topic
Obviously some people are gonna watch Europa the last battle and believe every single word from that film
And it seems like that's a lot of the audience in this group
But I don't think that just because I disagree with that documentary means I'm uneducated
on the topic.
Someone can understand what Hitler did, read his books and still not like him and disagree
with him.
But some people are just going to be the biggest fanboy.
So I think there's a huge gap between being knowledgeable on the topic and actually agreeing
with the topic.
Ian, if I could jump in real quick, please.
I'll make sure the tip is good.
Yeah, I'm good to go ahead and go to Hans here.
I think me and Band could probably go on forever here
on this back and forth.
So in the interest of his time and everything,
the Hans would be as a, I mean, I think we,
we'll find a little commonality in everything there as well.
So it was a good question.
Exactly, exactly.
And let's try not to beat a horse that's dead
and buried at this point.
But what I would say is just to further on and kind of,
um lift up uh individuals like space cat you know i i just want to call out it's not as if
you know he just watched uh european came away and said i'm now the biggest fan of hitler i mean
the guy the guy's read uh and personally owns copies of of literature that's you know at this
point about a hundred years old he's he's dug into it in the original language etc like his
his knowledge around that stuff is,
as far as people like Zach Logos is concerned,
is near unparalleled.
And I know Zach knows a lot of people
that know a lot of stuff about that.
So just want to give him kudos.
But yeah, with that, let's go to cost.
And again, let's just try to keep the temperature,
you know, room temperature here.
No reason for people to get heated.
And let's try to use these as opportunities
for kind of quicker Q&A rather than going down huge tangents.
Cool. Thank you. Yeah, I I'm not I'm not gonna address this individual
I mean, I've been around people like this for a very long time and it's just not worth the effort
You're not gonna you're not gonna make any kind of intellectual gains with people like this
Especially what they come from the whole King James only point of view
That's a little bit too low bra for me. So I will address the room, you know, he said, you know
They they introduced this socialism that socialism there
You know, national socialism in my estimation was a was a superior economic and social system than the Americas ever had
The Roman Republic, which was a democracy killed our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, it wasn't national socialism.
The Romans also persecuted Christians, just like the United States does.
They practiced boy-fucking in Rome, just like America does now.
So people try to draw these parallels between the United States and the Weimar, but the Weimar drew its corruption from Rome.
Factually, democracy is more incompatible with Christians in Christianity than national
socialism is.
In America, especially considering that if we're going to talk about what Germany may
or may not have done that was moral or immoral, we're going to make those kinds of moral judgments
on Germany.
Let's consider just a few things about Hitler did this and Hitler did that, compared to
what American president.
If we're talking about the American president that was sitting at the time of World War II, who didn't actually live to see it, that would be FDR.
Are we talking about that homosexual, that closet homosexual, the Mongoloid wife that had an entire Jewish administration?
Is that the guy that we're going to compare Hitler to?
What about if Germany did all of these terrible things?
Did Germany support the Soviet Union in the war? Was that the United States?
to fuck America, it completely out of existence because now it's completely consumed by Marxism.
So if that's not the hand of God judging the United States for what it did in World War II,
I don't know what is. So if you're going to be an Anglo-American and you want to pass judgment on
what Hitler or the Germans did, you don't have a position. You have no moral position.
When it comes to the history of this country, especially when you're living in a country that now has made homosexuality the state religion that never happened in national socialist Germany.
So was Hitler an imperfect man? Yes, all people are imperfect. So where was the criticism for American leadership or even patent when it comes to essentially hurling moral insults at Hitler or his SS.
to everybody in the room we just had an excellent space now would say it was the nscc's greatest
space to date uh the the feedback on it was excellent i posted it up in the jumbotron
proving factually and irrefutably that every single word that came out of this bullshit artist
mouth is factually incorrect and you could click on it and i encourage everybody to listen to that
this man was into Satanism, whether Himmler was part of the cult, and all this other stuff
that your typical skull-filled Christian, which this guy apparently is. I mean, he's
already proven that he's a skull- he's a skull-filled type of a Christian. Slander
National Socialism with. So please, if you can, after this space, and this was a great
space, thank you, Lee, and thank you, J.Q. Radow. I don't- I did not mean to come in here
If you guys are, once you guys are done, please listen to that space so you can hear for yourself that every word that came out of this bullshit artist mouth was factually incorrect.
Thank you.
Wow, that was, uh, that was really educational.
It's pretty interesting that national socialism has never produced the country that America was and
Additionally, if you're gonna say that America is judged by God, how is Germany not judged by God when America destroyed the Germans?
So now God is all over your country Anglo
Yeah, but it's not because of the bible. It's because of we're allowing jews to destroy it
You think you think that homosexual no, no, that's not because you destroyed your germans brother
You just say all your nonsense. Why can't you just?
We got it. We understand where you're coming from. Okay, Anglo. We got it
So now I'm bad because I'm white. I mean, that's you know, or you're European descent
I mean that that's kind of a that's pretty fun
We all know we know Anglo supremacists won't we hear it. Thank you very much
It's a low blow. It's a low blow. Let's just keep pushing costs. I feel you brother
Can we uh, we move on if I have my hand up for a minute? I don't know if it's my turn, but I'd love to go
I'll shut up cuz I know it's funny to like Hitler and not like white people. That's funny. I
Don't think you're you're grasping what he's saying, but of course not because he's a southern hick
He pushes the KJV version of the Bible. Give me a fucking break. What's an angle lay off the southern hicks cost
No, but I feel you brother. All right, who's up next sorry guys. I didn't mean to cut in
Well, let's uh, let's let's maybe bring down the the shoulders here just give everybody a deep breath
Maybe go to mangos who's always very calm and composed and
Maybe you can take in directions a little bit less inflammatory
You have a couple brief questions one will just be
So you're trying to kind of get America back on a track where we can have prosperity again
Culturally, what does that look like? How do you think we have to change society and how do we use the church and religion to do that?
So I wanted to ask you that first
Well, I don't think that the church should be directly involved.
I mean, they're obviously, it was bad in Europe when you had the church and the government
intertwined one with another.
But I do think you have to have people that are sincere, genuine Christians to adhere
Christian principles where they're not going to be dishonest.
I mean, when Moses was asked about leadership, he was trying to find people that hate covetousness
and or men of justice.
Do not have legalized lobbying and they can just basically rip off the American government
I mean and our our citizens through, you know
Immortal practices so obviously if we're gonna fix our our economy
We have to have the government stop printing money stop
Sending money to foreign countries stop doing all kinds of just insane just overspending and just buddy buddy lobbying type efforts
Obviously, taxes should exist to some degree.
I agree with public roads and safety,
but the less government would obviously
be a major need for our economy and for our country
if we want to have some level of prosperity.
But the Bible says that God's the one
that gives us the majority of wealth.
Yeah, for example, with your religious,
your church and all that, do you allow LGBT people?
No, they're not well, they're not allowed to come to our church ever they protest outside
Okay. And then when it comes to like Christians in America, do you believe that they should,
because you were saying something about this earlier a little bit, but I think you got
cut off, do you think that Christians should support the state of Israel and for the Jews
to have a homeland and all that?
I mean, obviously at this point, you kind of, we're kind of stuck in a situation where
we have a lot of people over in the Middle East. So, you know, I don't think that we
a whole group of people and move them somewhere else again or something like that.
I think that America just needs to detach itself from Israel completely and just say,
you're on your own, have fun. I mean, I think, I do think that it's probably still a dangerous
thing because I think without America backing Israel from a military perspective that you
could see just a mass genocide on the other side of the equation.
and Islam is not a good thing either. So I do think if America was just basically saying,
hey, we're not going to support any military action. We're going to trade with all and we're
not going to entangle ourselves in wars. We're not going to give you money. You know, I think
that makes sense. Trump bringing in terrorists makes sense only
if he gives us the tax benefit break.
If there's no tax breaks as a result of tariffs,
it's gonna increase inflation
and it's gonna basically hurt our economy further.
But the tariffs is a fine system
if you reciprocate that with a very low tax
or just getting rid of taxes for American citizens.
So, I think that kind of answers your question
about economic issues.
Yeah, and the last thing,
and then we can move to the next person,
So if Israel did, like we cut all ties to Israel and it turns out that Israel ends up losing a war or something.
And now all the Jews in Israel want to leave and, for example, come to the United States.
Would you be supportive of that or would you say no?
My view in immigration, it doesn't depend on circumstance.
I think that immigration should be limited greatly
and that it's basically for people
that have ideological continuity.
So if people don't wanna adhere to the constitution
and our laws and if we were a Christian nation,
if they don't wanna adhere to that,
I don't even think they should be welcomed at all.
But I'm not saying that everyone
that does should be welcomed.
I think that there's going to be some cases for refugees, I think there's some case for asylum,
I think there's some case for importing people from other nations to some degree. I mean America
was built on immigration in some ways, but that immigration was limited to ideological continuity
again. They weren't allowing Islam to be imported, they weren't allowing Hinduism to be imported,
by and large to be imported and things like that.
And so you have to understand America was great
because of ideological continuity.
Immigration's not a huge problem
if people have a place to go or have a job.
If you don't have a place to go and you don't have a job,
it's a train wreck and it just makes no sense whatsoever.
So, you know, I think that that's okay
if you're bringing some people in
based on those circumstances.
But no, I don't think you should have
an open border policy.
I would not wanna bring in Judaism at all.
That would be the last religion I would wanna bring
into America.
So, you know, I definitely would empathize
for someone that's caught in a bad situation, but.
No, I'm not going to just, it would be like if I saw a bunch of gangsters outside my house
and they got their car stolen, I'm not going to say like, hey, why don't you come inside
my house and hang out with my daughter because you got your car stolen.
It's like, nope, you're still not welcome into my house.
Like I don't want anything to do with you, you know, even though maybe you got your car
stolen or whatever.
America should not be just this open door.
Let's just bring every victim in.
We need to think about who it is that we're bringing in
and protect ourselves from dangerous criminals.
Thank you.
Yeah, and as always, Mankus,
really, really well-asked questions.
Let's, in the interest of time,
just because I know we're kind of running out of time.
I think I can do like one more if it's kind of short.
Yeah, let's let's go to the the Goy father and and see if he's got one and if not ret locked and loaded then we can go to Liberty
Yeah, yeah, I've got something took a little notes
The bro said he wants a small tax for funding for roads, etc
Smaller government, no lobbying Christian moral foundation. No fags and no important subversive
ideologies now
I've everything I've just listed what you've just stated speaking to the last speaker which one of these goes against what national socialism taught
I'm not going to say that I'm an expert on every single aspect of national socialism,
but at the end of the day, I believe in capitalism in general, just that principle.
And so, you know, I'm not a collectivist.
I have got a degree in economics.
I have studied an MBA for economics.
I definitely know what the Bible says well on this topic, and the Bible's capitalistic.
Um, I think that there's just flaws in.
Just collective ideas as a principle if we could talk about a specific topic
I could maybe you know as far as just one particular
Education or whatever I think that education and national socialism is dangerous because when you have all of education kind of
Collectivized then you can do what Hitler said in Mein Kampf and and basically say like hey the whole goal of this is to
Propagandize the youth and use them as a military machine like you have to just admit he said that and I think that
parents should have a little bit more say over their children's education. And so, you know,
capitalism gives you more choices, more freedom. Socialism is more easily corrupted,
more easily taken over by nefarious forces. So, you know, by and large, that's why I'm most
There are corrupt national socialism is authoritarian and your idea of finance capitalism anyone can do what the fuck they want if they have enough money.
What are you talking about?
Well, obviously, if you understand even how America is set up, no one can just do whatever
they want.
There's laws, number one.
Number two, the Fed actually regulates monopolies.
They don't do it anymore.
But it used to be that you couldn't hold monopolies.
You couldn't just own any kind of business, any kind of interest, you'd be broken up.
you would not have this because you have a year of jubilee which kind of has a reset button.
So you can't, capitalism left to itself will end up with one person with all the money and all the
land. So capitalism by itself isn't necessarily the right answer, but you still need some limits
and some regulation. That's why the Bible had the year of jubilee. That's why you have control
anti
fair practice, you know, things, because you're right.
Obviously, if you play the game Monopoly,
eventually someone gets everything, right?
And so capitalism unrestrained is bad too.
But if I'm just, if I have to pick an economic system,
yeah, I agree with capitalism with limits
and with regulation.
But again, it's people.
People are always gonna do bad.
People can always be corrupted, whether it be a monarch,
whether it be national socialism,
whether it be communism,
obviously capitalism, there's always going to be flaws. Nothing's absolutely perfect.
It takes people that actually love truth and honesty and are going to adhere to those things
for any governmental system to work. So you've just promoted subjective truth, which breeds
liberalism and homosexuality? Objective truth? What did I say? The King James Bible is objective
Last thing, and then I'll move on. You said you can only have one more, so I didn't want to eat all the time.
I don't think you want to stand the difference between finance capitalism and just capitalism.
National socialism doesn't reject individualist capitalism as a whole.
It doesn't reject it. It just makes it so it can't become the way America is today
with 0.2% of the population being 50% of the billionaires.
There's a big difference between finance capitalism and regular capitalism
and you don't understand the difference whatsoever.
Also, the Bible doesn't preach finance capitalism. It says to
Lend and not expect more in return. So it doesn't preach this idea that you want to preach now
Yes, there's a a jubilee, etc. Sure. We can have votes
No one was against having votes right no one saying one person has to rule until they die
No one believes that all right. We don't believe that
So you don't understand national socialism. Let's break it to you
I think that you're mislabeling some things there
and just objectively say I don't know something
is kind of silly, but again,
there is obviously gonna be blending
between any of these economic labels.
You can't just sit here and just say,
this is national socialism. Tell me what country is exactly that. I mean, economic
theory, if you actually go to college and you actually get a master's degree in economics,
you'll realize that there's literally never an ideal situation economically. There's always going
to be ebbs and flows and experiences and systems. So you're trying to just say like,
oh, well, there's some forms of capitalism in a nationalistic society. I mean, of course,
There's going to be overlap because these are just labels used to generally talk about systems that exist like education or the privatization of health care or when we talk about economics.
I brought up education specifically. You said I don't understand finance capitalism versus capitalism. It's like we're talking about education versus monetary policy.
I'm not going to say I'm an expert on anything, but to just say that I don't know what I'm talking about and mislabel things is silly.
You're misquoting that particular Bible verse about LEND.
You know, the Bible does talk about taking collateral.
The Bible does talk about lending to foreign nations even on usury.
So, you know, you can't just take a personal instruction
and then implement that for a governmental policy
because the Bible has rules for individuals,
for the country and for the nation as a whole.
I don't think that you probably understand necessarily the difference there if you're
going to say those individualistic commands are what was brought to the country as a whole.
Does the Bible pitch lending with usury to a brother?
The Bible does say that you can lend on usury to stranger. So to a brother to a brother. Yeah, I agree
I personally should not make
No, right? So the answers no right to a brother, right? Yes, and that idea of brothership would be
spiritual and
Ethnic national national ritual removes the ethnic therefore if you are trading with foreign nations
Yes, having barter in systems is perfectly fine, but within your nation, if it's a Christian
nation and a homogenous nation, guess what?
There is no idea of user, a smart guy, if they are your brothers.
I'm a hundred percent against usury, so I don't know, maybe you're just mislabeling
something I said, but I think that usury should be illegal.
We should ban all interest within our own nation.
that does not, capitalism does not determine whether or not you have the practice of usury or not.
So, again, I would love to talk about this more. I'm sure I could learn things from,
you know, you on national socialism, but I strongly disagree with it.
Do you have to leave? Are you about to go?
Yeah, I wish we'd start, we were going to start the space at like two, and so I would have had
a little bit more time, but I do have to go and I appreciate the audience pushing back.
Well, dude, I
That's on me not on band by the way, my bad. I did not mean to cut you was gonna ask you a quick
What do you what do you hot hold at a higher value like preservation of you know money or?
Religion or race or what? How do you see that?
Yeah, religion for sure band. Yeah religion the King James Bibles the thing that's important money comes and goes
But the truth is the thing that matters. I think the King James Bibles objective truth. I think that's why America was great
I think if we want to have a prosperous nation and a prosperous state and a prosperous family,
it's going to be built on the Bible again. And so, you know, I think that any idea we have as man,
whether it be capitalism, national socialism, any of these ideas, we can always be testing them on
the Bible. And if there's something wrong with our ideas from what the Bible says,
then we need to change and implement a new structure. I think that America, generally speaking,
is very close to what the Bible
Would describe a nation as being set up as it's just we have corrupt politicians bad people
We've been taken over by Judaism and so we have a lot of people in our country if we could get back to those Christian principles
I think we would have success. I think that's why I disagree with national socialism and hitlers
Things because of Christian principles
I've been listening to you and I do I think especially when I first come to space you said some great things
In myself, I personally because dude, I'm new as I'm new to the JQJP
But I've looked into it a lot myself the you know national socialist versus
You know absolute Christianity first or a religious base first nation
I just I just want to just from my personal opinion some stuff that I've learned and I'm trying to be quick
So I know you have to run but preserving race provides a
tangible lived context for religious expression as racial identities often shape how communities
interpret and practice faith such as the distinct traditions of, for example, Ethiopian Jews
or Ashkenazi Jewish rituals, my point being, based on historical evidence preserving race
strengthens religious solidarity by aligning spiritual beliefs with shared radical histories,
My point is that by prioritizing the preservation of race over money or capitalism as Hitler did with
National Socialism, a government system emerges that lays the finest foundation for a strong
religious nation, rooting spirituality and racial unity rather than material division.
And I'll end with this because I know you got to go. As all I'm saying is that
Is that with what he was doing was great for his people and that naturally have built a stronger society laying the foundation for a
Robust community rooted in Christian faith and today. I don't believe that hits that
There's it hit harder
Maybe even then even today than it did then because I mean look at what our countries have become the West in general
Europe America. I mean we're being cooked dude. You know what I'm saying like yeah
You know, you can go to Europe and some of these people are mad the Muslims are there, but you know, who's doing this?
Who are the ones doing it?
If your neighbor throws rattlesnakes across your fence and they bite your child, are you mad at the rattlesnake for doing what it naturally did?
Are you mad at the person who threw him over?
So I'm just saying I'm just trying to provide different angles because I was raised a Southern Baptist.
So I understand a lot of your perspectives.
Like I said, I'm relatively new to this stuff.
And I think there is, I definitely don't see eye to eye and everything you're saying.
But I hope you you know you you look into it more and try to learn a little bit more and I hope there's some things
You know, I've learned some stuff from you tonight. So I just want to say I appreciate you coming
I'm not trying to dog you out brother really do appreciate you appreciate all you guys
Ian, what's up truth just came in band pastor calling Shawn space cat
Everybody cost goi father doc. What's up? I have to say thanks listening. Thanks. Let me up guys
Thanks again. I have to go, so I appreciate it so much, Ian.
And I think the guys that had questions and stuff.
And I know I got a little spicy, too, with some of the comments.
But I'm not saying I know everything.
I'm still wanting to learn as well.
But I do know a lot of things about the Bible, and so I want to share those.
You mentioned your MBA in economics. I've got MBAs while I had to unlearn all the stuff
I learned in my MBA program because it was all based on lies. Well, that's why I didn't finish it
I'll be honest
I didn't finish it because it was lies and I hated learning it
So that's why I gave up on it because it's it's garbage, but I appreciate the
For an arguing position, I'm just saying I have a I have a con I have concepts
I understand the concepts that doesn't mean I agree with them. So I appreciate you guys
You'll have a good night. All right