Thanks for tuning in to a double feature of The
Baptist Bias. Exciting night. We get to talk about 9-11 and we had Mr. Gage on
our previous episode. You got to check that out, but right now we're going to be
talking about the debate and recapping it. Some people have already been
watching this live, but we have got some clips that we're going to be going
through and watching again and talking about, bringing in some commentary, and
we're going to try and get some audience feedback here. I know that Rumble is
being stressed to the max right now, so hopefully we won't have too many
technical difficulties, but I'm your host Pastor Shelley, The Baptist Bias. You
want to watch everything with us, right? Don't you, Ben? Oh, I agree with that
100%. Everything has to go through the lenses of The Baptist Bias, isn't that
right? Everybody's got a perspective out there, but you need to get The
Baptist Bias. That was lame, but it's alright. We tried. A-plus forever. Y'all are so cringy. Why would I ever
watch this show? Of course, I'm excited to watch some of this debate. Before
we get into it, what are your pre-show thoughts here? Is Trump going to
wipe the floor? Is it going to be kind of 50-50? Is Kamala going to do better than
expected? Where's your head at? I think Donald Trump, he should win
the debate. I mean, he's debating a literal idiot and a whore. She's also an idiot.
Tell us how you really feel. The thing is, like, I think what I would like to see from him, and I
haven't seen the debate yet, I'm going to watch for the first time along with you,
Pastor Shelley, I'd like to see him build a little momentum tonight. I think he
needs some more, he needs to infuse his campaign with a little more excitement,
something to get his base talking again. Some energy. Some energy. It's been a
little low energy. It could be age, maybe his advisors are telling him to dial it
back, but I'm hoping that tonight he really brings it and gives his his fans
something to talk about. No, I'm very excited for the show, and I'm excited to
watch some of these clips. We had some of our producing crew create some clips for
us and pull them out, so we're gonna watch just some of the highlights. Of
course, you know, I realize you didn't watch the show while we were having our
other show, Ben, but thanks for the reminder. It's just a reminder. Yeah, yeah. I could
have been on my phone watching it. Yeah, that's true. I didn't know. You got that
earpiece over there. I have the earpiece. And so, you know, of course we already
realized that 9-11 is an inside job, but we're gonna try, you can follow me and
ban Pastor at Twitter, our next. If you have an account, go to ban Pastor, and
we're gonna be trying to do a Spaces as well, and in that Spaces we're gonna try
and bring some people on, and you can share your thoughts as well, so that's
just gonna be another way that we're gonna try and interact with our audience
and bring you guys in on the show, and, you know, of course we're trying to keep
up with all the times, all the technologies. I think it's pretty cool.
We've done, I did a Spaces show the other day, and it was pretty cool. It was fun,
wasn't it? It worked out pretty well. You know what I like on the Spaces? When somebody chimes in
who doesn't already believe the way we do, and they ask us questions like, wait a
minute, so you're saying this, or I remember there was a guy who, on the
Spaces you're referring to, he came in and he was asking us about the new King
James version, he was asking us about our position on the King James only
doctrine, and it sounded like he wasn't totally on our side, but I like
that. I like getting a chance to engage with those who may not already agree
with us. Still a really friendly conversation. A friendly conversation, and
so, and you had a real long one the other day, Monday morning, about five hours, talk
about long, yeah, where an agnostic tried to school you and failed, I think. So I'm
gonna go ahead and try and get the Spaces up, so if you can find it, make
sure to try and join, and we'd love to have you guys join us on that, and we'll
try to bring on some speakers, so if you want to come on the show. Also, we're
gonna be playing those clips. Let's see if we can tee up maybe that clip one
that we have here from our production crew. I think it's a conversation
about the economy, and I just don't know how Kamala can answer what's going on
with the economy, but let's watch this clip. Kamala. Kamala. This is an
interesting black, this is the, we found the black box, Ben. It's right there.
Here we go. All right, here we go. Trump looks his age here. I'll just say that.
Trump looking a little older these days. President Trump, I'll give you two
minutes. First of all, I have no sales tax. That's an incorrect statement. She knows
that we're doing tariffs on other countries. Other countries are going to
finally, after 75 years, pay us back for all that we've done for the world, and
the tariff will be substantial in some cases. I took in billions and billions of
dollars, as you know, from China. In fact, they never took the tariff off because
there was so much money they can't. It would totally destroy everything that
they've set out to do. They're taking in billions of dollars from China and other
places. They've left the tariffs on. When I had it, I had tariffs, and yet I had no
inflation. Look, we've had a terrible economy because inflation has, which is
really known as a country buster. It breaks up countries. We have inflation
like very few people have ever seen before. Probably the worst in our
nation's history. We were at 21%, but that's being generous because many
things are 50, 60, 70, and 80% higher than they were just a few years ago. This has
been a disaster for people, for the middle class, but for every class. On top
of that, we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons
and jails, from mental institutions and insane asylums, and they're coming in
and they're taking jobs that are occupied right now by African Americans
and Hispanics and also unions. Unions are going to be affected very soon, and you
see what's happening. You see what's happening with towns throughout the
United States. You look at Springfield, Ohio. You look at Aurora in Colorado. They
are taking over the towns. They're taking over buildings. They're going in
violently. These are the people that she and Biden led into our country, and
they're destroying our country. They're dangerous. They're at the highest level
of criminality, and we have to get them out. We have to get them out fast. I
created one of the greatest economies in the history of our country. I'll do it
again, and even better. We are gonna get to it. Well, that was kind of boring. I
didn't really get much out of it. Well, here's the thing with Trump, if I may just say this real quick.
When it comes to his talking points on the economy, he inevitably will bring in
immigration, and he'll talk about how, well, these open borders are bringing
illegals in or enabling illegals to come in, and that is leading to Hispanic and
black jobs getting taken away, and you know, I'm not an expert on economic
policy by any means, but I do think that, you know, Trump, he loves to always just
pivot to immigration over and over again, and I think what we saw in that clip is
him pivot to immigration and talk about its impact economically on minorities,
which some people don't like. Nick Fuentes is critical of him in many, for
many reasons. One of them is that he keeps bringing up that black jobs are
getting taken away by immigrants. I personally like the talking point. I
think he's just trying to reach out to their voter base and see if he can
steal a few more black votes, so I don't mind him saying that at all, but that's
just my opinion. I'm sure you probably disagree. I mean, yeah, I think it's just like, you
know, it's kind of obvious that Trump has a little bit better policies
when it comes to these issues. I mean, this is the funny thing. It's like, if
Kamala could fix any of these economic border issues, why didn't she do it the
last four and a half years? Again, I'm not an expert on the economy, but
I do think, from a rudimentary point of view that I have, Trump is strong on
economic policy. That seems to be the case from my perspective, and that's
probably his strongest suit, is what he can do for our country from an economic
perspective, and I think that's why a lot of people will be voting for him. Let's
go ahead and play another clip here. Let's get some more, let's go through
some of this debate a little bit more. I'll go to clip two if we can, and we've
got a few people joining us on this debate. I would like to let Vice President Harris
respond on the economy here. Well, I would love to. Let's talk about what Donald
Trump left us. Donald Trump left us the worst on employment since the Great
Depression. Donald Trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a
century. Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil
War, and what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess. What we have done,
and what I intend to do, is build on what we know are the aspirations and the
hopes of the American people, but I'm going to tell you all on this debate
tonight. You're going to hear from the same old tired playbook a bunch of lies,
grievances, and name calling. What you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and
dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on
implementing if he were elected again. Yeah, when did he say he was going to
implement this? I wish he would. Yeah, I would love for that to be true. Where is
the Donald Trump that they keep bringing up? Like this caricature of Trump that the
left has created. Where is he so I can vehemently support him and tell
everybody to vote for him because he doesn't exist? It's like they think he's
Steven Anderson. Where is this Trump? Well, I don't think Project 2025 in all
fairness is as hardcore as Pastor Anderson would be. I would definitely
vote for Pastor Anderson. Look, there was some economic issues for sure,
but a lot of that was because of COVID. I think there's legitimate criticisms of
how Trump handled COVID. What do you think about that? Yeah, obviously the
COVID was a disaster. You know, if I were them, I would probably bring that up too.
I think that's a fair talking point. That's probably really the only talking
point they even have that he, you know, arguably didn't handle it well, but you'd
have to ask this question. Would Biden or Kamala have done better? There would
have been a lot more tyranny with that. I think, yeah, I think there would have been
less, you know, bringing up alternative medicines, probably a little bit less
like questions about China and Fauci and some of these other things. I think that
Trump at least provided some level of skepticism, and so unfortunately, you
know, it's not really clear what would have happened with other people,
but, you know, it's definitely a meaningless platitude in my mind, how
she's like, it was an attack on our democracy. You know, it's like, what have
the Democrats done the last four years? They've been attacking our country
relentlessly. I think what she was referring to is that Trump said 2020 was
stolen. January 6th, right? January 6th, but the left claimed 2016 was stolen by
the Russians, so it's only okay to question the 2016 election, and you have
video compilations online showing Democrats doing this, and it's okay when
they do it. It's not an attack on democracy, but it's an attack on
democracy if you question 2020. You know, this is just the the leftist hive mind
here, I guess. It's the fact that they're just such utter hypocrites. If
you'd like to come on the show and talk to us, you can go to the spaces. We're
trying to still do that. Cognitive dissonance is what I was looking for.
Yeah, there's a couple people in there that have joined to try to add you as a
speaker. You can join as a speaker, and we'll try to get you on the show. I
know that I feel like every system is being stressed to the max right now with
the amount of viewership with the debate, so even Rumble says we've got one
viewer, Ben. There's one person out there that likes you. I don't know that that's
accurate. It may be just me. I'm the only one watching our show. No, I'm just
kidding. I see a lot of comments in there. Is this a big deal? Do you think it's a big deal
tonight, or is it just kind of, eh? I think it's entertainment at this point.
It's like WWE is what I heard. You know, it's basically in which you love WWE,
right? I like professional wrestling. I've liked professional wrestling for a long
time, so I guess guilty as charged. And if you have a question, you can put it in
the chat. We might read it. Someone said she, Rosemary Himes said she is a
pathological liar, and JesusLover122 says, Trump said that he is a, quote,
leader of IVF. Also, Trump fully supports the abortion exceptions. His IVF stance is,
is, look, it's not conservative. It's just not conservative. And his rhetoric on
abortion is stupid because he says, well, we're going to give it back to the
states, folks. We're going to give it back to the states. But then he wants to
interfere in what states are doing, and he speaks against laws that states want to
enact, calling them too extreme. So which one is it, Trump? Do you want to not
interfere at all and let the states handle it? Or are you going to, you know,
keep butting in and telling states how they should rule on abortion? It's like
you can't have both of these talking points at the same time, and yet he
contradicts himself whenever states make a law that he finds to be too extreme.
So let's go ahead and play Clip 3. Let's get a little bit more into the debate.
Wow. Trump's the one to piss me off the most so far. I wouldn't have guessed that.
Just to finish off, she doesn't have a plan. She copied Biden's plan, and it's like four
sentences, like run, spot, run. Four sentences that are just, oh, we'll try and lower taxes.
She doesn't have a plan. Take a look at her plan. She doesn't have a plan.
Mr. President, I do want to drill down on something you both brought up.
She doesn't have a plan, folks. No plan. She always looks confused.
Can we get Trump to call in? I'm asking for brother Oz. Can we get Trump to call in here?
No, I will say... Join us on Spaces.
It was, here's the thing. He's good. That was a good clip. I like that he just hammers people.
I want to see him hammer Kamala Harris more and just really attack her.
Go all out. One of my favorites... Why does he always have to go against women?
That's... I don't know. You got Hillary, then you got non-existent Biden, and then you have
Kamala now. It's like they have to make it difficult. Because again, debating a woman
would be difficult in this particular situation, not because of their intelligence, but the fact
that they appeal to emotion. It looks bad that you're kind of ganging up or beating up on a
woman. So it's like a psychological... Well, with Hillary, I mean...
No one likes her. Kamala even too. These are such evil,
wicked, disgusting degenerates that... How do you feel about them?
He should just go after them. Do you like them?
No, not very much. Let's keep playing some of these clips.
But hey, I'm critical of Trump too. Go ahead. I'm trying to be fair.
We hardly make chips anymore because of philosophies like they have and policies
like they have. I don't say her because she has no policy. Everything that she believed three
years ago and four years ago is out the window. She's going to my philosophy now. In fact, I was
going to send her a MAGA hat. She's gone to my philosophy, but if she ever got elected, she'd
change it. And it will be the end of our country. She's a Marxist. Everybody knows she's a Marxist.
Her father's a Marxist professor in economics, and he taught her well. But when you look at
what she's done to our country, and when you look at these millions and millions of people
that are pouring into our country monthly, where it's, I believe, 21 million people,
not the 15 that people say, and I think it's a lot higher than the 21, that's bigger than New
York State pouring in. And just look at what they're doing to our country. They're criminals.
Many of these people coming in are criminals, and that's bad for our economy too. You mentioned
before, we'll talk about immigration later. She's a Marxist, folks.
Well, label her. I mean, that's what speaks to the common man.
I think it's funny she said there's gonna be all this name-calling, but you know,
I'd be interested. I would assume that she's probably participating in her fair share of
quote name-calling. I mean, yeah. Ad hominem attacks. Fascist, racist. I mean, attacks on
our democracy. They call them a fascist. That's not name-calling? I do think that might be a meme.
We need to have Kamala in a Trump hat for maybe tonight or tomorrow. Do you think you're gonna
see that? Sure. Well, she stole the tax on, no tax on tips. I think he's gonna get her a MAGA hat.
Yeah. That's a good line. Yeah. All right. Let's keep the clips going. Let's keep rolling.
The reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is, as you know, the vote is
they have abortion in the ninth month. They even have, and you can look at the governor
of West Virginia, the previous governor of West Virginia, not the current governor,
is doing an excellent job. But the governor before he said the baby will be born and we will
decide what to do with the baby. In other words, we'll execute the baby. And that's why I did that
because that predominates because they're radical. The Democrats are radical in that
and her vice presidential pick, which I think it was a horrible pick by the way for our country,
because he is really out of it. But her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth
month is absolutely fine. He also says execution after birth. It's an execution,
no longer abortion because the baby is born is okay. And that's not okay with me. Hence the vote.
But what I did is something for 52 years, they've been trying to get Roe V Wade into the States
and through the genius and, and heart and strength of six Supreme court justices,
we were able to do that. Now I believe in the exceptions for rape, incest and life of the
mother. I believe strongly in it. Ronald Reagan did also 85% of Republicans do exceptions,
very important, but we were able to get it. And now States are voting on it. And for the first
time you're going to see, look, this is an issue that's torn our country apart for 52 years. Every
legal scholar, every Democrat, every Republican, liberal conservative, they all wanted this issue
to be brought back to the States where the people could vote. And that's what happened, happened.
Now, Ohio, the vote was... He needs to not interfere in what a state decides to do then
if he wants to bring it back to the States. Well, I think that that's a good point. And I,
I'm sure that a lot of people do want to come back to the States. I guess I'm kind of curious
and interested about your thoughts on this statistic. 85% of Republicans believe in the
exceptions. Do you think that's accurate? I'm just kind of curious. I really don't know. I mean,
there's a lot of milquetoast conservatives out there. I'm pretty sure your average
person off the street would probably say, well, you know, if the woman's forced or
something like that. I mean, it doesn't seem too far out there to me. If you have a different
opinion, I'm happy to hear it. Well, I would, I would wonder if that statistic's coming from
a place of like, they brought up all these different exceptions. And then if you said
yes to any of them, then they kind of put you in this category. Maybe, maybe that's how the
statistic was kind of driven. And they were like, what if a 10 year old was raped or something?
Cause that's usually what they bring it up. And so they may have had like 85% of Republicans
saying like, well, or they, or like a life of the mother, like, Hey, if this woman was about to die
and somehow the abortion could save her life or something, which is still a weird thing to me,
because I don't, I don't really believe that you have to just like murder a baby to save
the mother's life. Obviously I know that they try to sometimes perform an operation of a C-section
or they do some kind of an operation to just have the birth go quickly. So as to try, because the
mother's experiencing some kind of a medical emergency, but I don't see why you would then
shove forceps into the forehead of the baby and dismember it to save the mother. Right.
And so it's like, did 85% of them say yes. Okay. If there was this weird hypothetical
medical emergency situation, we don't want people to be culpable or doctors be culpable for
the termination of the baby just because they were trying to save the mother's life.
Like they're trying to put it in this really weird, super hypothetical situation to try and
excuse the idea that they're like, well, we want exceptions. I don't know. Is that,
is that kind of fair to say, or is that, do you think that's happening?
I think it's very plausible. In these polls and these statistics and stuff like that.
I do think, I think it's very plausible that that's what's going on.
Or maybe just 85% of Republicans and conservatives just genuinely believe in rape
and, you know, life of the mother and these things are exceptions.
I will say if there are any first-time viewers, since this is a live stream happening on debate
night, maybe a few new people have come in to listen to us, Pastor Shelley, we should let them
know. We don't believe in the exceptions. And if there is a rapist out there who forces a woman,
what we would say is put the rapist to death and let the baby live. And that's what the Bible says.
The Bible actually prescribes the death penalty for rapists. And Pastor, if you can help me out,
is that Deuteronomy chapter 22? Where rapists are put to death?
Yeah, I think towards the end, yeah, towards the end of the chapter, it brings up some scenarios
where you would have someone being forced. And so, you know, again, this is what's crazy to me,
is we spend so much time, effort, and energy arguing whether or not we should kill the baby,
but we never spend that time arguing if we should kill the rapist.
And I would bet there's probably a high percentage of Americans that would say,
kill the rapist. But we don't even do that. We allow, I mean, especially migrants. I mean,
think about how many people in the UK and other parts of the world are being raped and they're
not killing the rapist. Even in America, it seems like people are getting off on these particular
charges. And of course, you know, I'm not for this like Me Too movement, you know, rape,
accusation 20 years later, I never told anybody, and yeah, I was drunk, and yeah, I let him on,
and yeah, he came over to my house, and yeah, you know, we were doing stuff that we shouldn't do,
but then he quote raped me or something. You know, it's like, I'm not necessarily saying that,
but I'm just saying like, if it was a legitimate, man-forcing woman, she screamed, just like the
Bible details, there's enough witnesses, there's evidence, like, we should have the death penalty
for that particular situation. Yes. So you just drew a distinction in my mind between
actual woman getting forced and post-fortication regret. That is not rape.
Some people brought up this idea of, I would think an ectopic pregnancy would probably be the only
life-threatening event. Someone all sorts to Plowshares said, my wife almost died in her last
pregnancy. I would have hated to make that decision, and let's be honest, obviously giving
birth can be a life-threatening situation. Very much so. Especially if they're hemorrhaging or
losing blood, or it's been a really, really, really long delivery. You know, we see women
dying in the Bible giving birth. Ichabod, that's an example where the mother doesn't respond after
giving birth, and so we do have examples of that in Scripture. It is something that could happen.
I just, again, would say that I'm not sure that you have to necessarily terminate the child in
a lot of those situations. I believe in the ectopic, and I'm not an expert on this, but
it's basically that the egg that's fertilized is in an unsafe location, that if it were to develop
naturally, it could cause some kind of a particular crisis for the woman, and so, again,
I'm not an expert on that. I'm not either, so I'll refrain from saying, but how about also
Genesis 35 with Rachel? She gave birth to Benjamin. Didn't she pass away as a result of that labor, or
do you not believe that? That came to mind, and I'm struggling. I always sometimes struggle to
think about if that's something I thought, or if that's a clear text. Is that a clear text
example, or did she, does it say she died in the birth of Benjamin? I couldn't remember if that
was for sure. I believe so. We'll go to it real quickly. It was trying to... Genesis chapter 35 says,
and they journeyed from Bethel, and there was but a little way to come to Ephrath, and Rachel
traveled, and she had hard labor, and it came to pass when she was in hard labor that the midwife
said unto her, Fear not, thou shalt have this son also. And it came to pass, as her soul was
in departing, for she died, that she called his name Benonai, but his father called him Benjamin.
So it appears that she died in childbirth. Yeah, I was just, I wasn't wanting to say something that
I was misremembering for some reason, but yeah, you're right. She's another example, and it does
say in verse 19, and Rachel died. So it does seem very clear that she was, she lost her life due to
the childbirth of Benjamin, and you know, there's probably a lot of spiritual significance to that.
Being a mother is a sacrificial event, and I think that it's kind of reminiscent of like,
I think when you look at the two sons that she gave birth to, you have Joseph and Benjamin.
It's kind of like Jesus dying on the cross, I think, and giving birth to the church. You kind
of have that replacement there. I don't know. What do you think about that? I don't know. That
was a pretty cool nugget right there, dropping bars here on the post-debate stream. I like it.
We don't just have to talk about the debate only. It looks like Rumble finally got our numbers back
up. We got almost 200 people in the live stream. We don't have any, we have hardly anybody in the
spaces. If you do join the spaces, I'll invite you to speak. If you'd like to speak, we're going to
try that out. If we don't end up having hardly anybody in the spaces, we might try to go back
to the phone calls if anybody would like to call in, but I did drop a link in the chat if you would
like to try and join our spaces. We'd like to add some speakers in here, and so we're trying that
out. We did a couple spaces before, and they're kind of fun. I actually kind of like it, and so
let's go ahead and key up the next clip, and let's play a little bit more here.
And now in over 20 states, there are Trump abortion bans, which make it criminal for a doctor
or nurse to provide health care. In one state, it provides prison for life. Trump abortion bans that
make no exception even for rape and incest, which understand what that means. A survivor of a crime
of violation to their body does not have the right to make a decision about what happens to their
body next. That is immoral, and one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs
to agree. The government and Donald Trump certainly should not be telling a woman what to do
with her body. I have talked with women around our country. You want to talk about this is what
people wanted. Pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term, suffering from a miscarriage,
being denied care in an emergency room because the health care providers are afraid they might
go to jail, and she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot. She didn't want that. Her husband
didn't want that. A 12 or 13 year old survivor of incest being forced to carry a pregnancy to term,
they don't want that. And I pledge to you, when Congress passes a bill to put back in place the
protections of Roe v. Wade, as President of the United States, I will proudly sign it into law.
But understand, if Donald Trump were to be reelected, he will sign a national abortion
ban. Understand and... Yeah, let's pause for a second because I want to comment on this.
And here's the thing. First of all, she brought up the idea of incest. Didn't Trump already clearly
explain that he is for that exception? So again, I'm not saying I am. I'm just saying that he did.
How is that a fair debate point? You can bring it back up. She looks retarded,
the way you have her paused. Additionally, she looks like the retarded whore that she is.
Additionally, she brought up this idea of a woman being in the car outside of an emergency room,
bleeding and hemorrhaging, and not being able to get medical care. I don't know what could be more
of a lie than that because number one, hospitals cannot refuse someone in that situation, even if
they can't pay. Emergency rooms cannot just deny people in those type of medical emergencies.
So it's a complete flat out just lie. Secondly, here's another point. She's like,
oh, do you want Donald Trump telling women what to do? She's like, Donald Trump is not gonna give
a personal phone call to every single woman in America and tell her specifically what she needs
to do medically in all of these situations. Plus he's giving all of these quote exceptions
out there anyways. So this is all disingenuous. These aren't even good talking points.
I think what's happening is she's just repeating talking points, not even understanding that they
have nothing to do with what Donald Trump actually says or believes or his policy positions. It's
just repeated talking points. She's just getting up and mindlessly regurgitating things. Is she
any better than Joe Biden, Ben? Arguably worse.
Yeah, because she actually has a brain that's functioning in theory and it's still just NBC.
Yeah, absolutely. What you just heard there, I think was an appeal to emotion and also an appeal
to low IQ leftist delusion. A lot of the people in her base sit around binge watching TV shows
about Christian authoritarianism while eating 50 pounds of ice cream every day and surrounded
by cats and they don't know any better. They are literally brain dead. I mean, these are the people
that support that woman you just heard. They are brain dead. They don't know how to tie their own
shoelaces. They're drooling, looking at the screen and obeying their master Kamala. It is sickening
to have somebody get up there and say, oh, nobody could tell a woman what to do with her body.
By every biological and scientific metric, it's not a woman's body. It's a baby's body with its
own separate DNA code. It is clearly not her body. That is a stupid talking point.
Yeah, and again, I actually saw a Charlie Kirk debate that aired just like today or
yesterday or something like that and there's this woman just screeching and
screaming some college student yelling at him. And it's about this particular situation. She's
saying, well, it's not viable. And it's just like this viability argument is one of the worst
arguments I've ever heard when it comes to whether you should abort a baby because, yeah, how about
a one day old baby? Is that viable to live on its own without supporting its mother? No, you should
just kill it. I mean, if it's not viable, we can kill it would basically extend to virtually
everyone, including women. Let's be honest. Can women are women viable without men? Could they
really maintain the infrastructure of our country, provide all the food source? I guess we should
just kill women and not even just women. Many men are inept and not able to actually function at a
high level. Let's just be honest. We're all dependent to some level. That's just such a stupid
argument viability. And so, you know, I really hate I really hate abortion. Oh, God hates abortion.
God hates abortion. I hate abortion. It's legalized bloodshed of the most innocent lives
among us. They want to butcher babies in the womb and then get up and say, oh, well, a woman can do
whatever she wants with her own body, even though by every biological and scientific metric, it's
not her body. It has its own separate DNA code. It has its own separate center of consciousness.
That is a baby. It is another body. And just because it's not viable doesn't give you the
right to kill it. I have toddlers living in my home, my own children. They're not viable. It
doesn't mean that I could just slaughter them whenever the hell I feel like it. Sick, disgusting
people on the left. You are Satan worshipping filth. That's what you are. Tell me how you really
feel. I will calm down now. I'm just kidding. I love I love the fire. You finally woke up,
you know, we finally got you engaged. You're ready to talk about it. You know, someone needs
to get mad about babies being slaughtered and killed. So, you know, I appreciate the rhetoric.
Let's go ahead and let the retarded lady talk a little bit more. His project 2025. There would be
a national abortion monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages.
I think the American people believe that certain freedoms, in particular the freedom to make
decisions about one's own body should not be made by the government. Thank you. Yeah, again,
just lies. The government's not deciding your health care decisions, folks. It's just saying
you can't murder people. That's not deciding your medical decisions. It's disingenuous.
That's not even Trump's position anyways. So let's go ahead. What are they arguing against?
I'm just curious. He doesn't support project 2025. What are they arguing against? Nothing
that he actually believes or says, but you know, here's another thing that's frustrating is that
this is even a talking point in this conversation that part of our country actually even cares about
this or wants this. Like this is such a losing talking point for both sides in the context of
morality and Christianity. It's just like so bad. And it's so frustrating that our country even
cares about this issue. Like, I mean, it's revolting. It shouldn't be a debate. I mean,
to me, it makes me think of, you know, specifically how the Bible talks about in the
end times, there's gonna be people without natural affection and what could be more reminiscent of
that than a woman being willing to slaughtering her own. The love of many shall wax cold, the
Bible says. I might try to find that Charlie Kirk clip here in a second and just put it on the
screen because it's just frustrating. It is. But I think we can, let's go ahead and play another
clip here of the Trump thing. I'm gonna see if I can pull up and understand what has been happening
under Donald Trump's abortion bans. Couples who pray and dream of having a family are being denied
IVF treatments. What is happening in our country? Working people, working women who are working one
or two jobs, who can barely afford childcare as it is, have to travel to another state to get on a
plane sitting next to strangers to go and get the healthcare she needs. Barely can afford to do it.
And what you are putting her through is unconscionable. And the people of America have not,
the majority of Americans believe in a woman's right to make decisions about her own body.
And that is why in every state where this issue has been on the ballot, in red and blue states
both, the people of America have voted for freedom. Well, even if that is true, you know,
that's because women are allowed to vote. You know, repeal the 19th Amendment immediately.
We have some people joining us in our spaces. If you'd like to, we can add you as a speaker and
you can come on the show and express your opinion here. I also shared the clip to our
production crew that Charlie Kirk had, some interaction. It was just released.
I want to play this just because this is apparently who Kamala Harris is appealing to.
Let's play this clip as well. Okay, what's your name? Naima. Nice to meet you. Okay,
can I just ask, at how many weeks do you think that a fetus is viable?
Well, viability and moral worth are two different things. No, but I'm asking you
at how many weeks do you think a fetus is viable? Well, at about 20 weeks, a baby can survive
outside of utero. So it's actually 24 to 26 weeks? Well, it's 20. The youngest ever in a NICU unit
actually happened in San Diego, not far from here, and survived at 20 weeks. Okay, so under Roe v.
Wade, 93% of abortions happened in the first 13 weeks of pregnancy. That's 93% of the abortions
happened well before a fetus is technically viable as a form of life. Let's go into viability.
So what is it about, let's say, a six-week baby that has a heartbeat, its own DNA, fingerprint,
brainwaves that is less moral worth than an 88-year-old right now with dementia in a home
down the street? That person requires assistance, requires help. Why is it that the six-week baby
is of less moral worth? Well, first of all, it's not a baby, it's a fetus. What does fetus mean?
A fetus is in utero. What does fetus mean in Latin? What the f***? I'm sorry, is this a language
code? It means little human being. The smile is very creepy. Okay. Smiling is creepy? No,
you're smile-specific. Got it. But let's go back to, we're losing track here. No, but that's when
you know you're losing the argument. I know. The fetus is not a species yet, it's technically
classified as a parasite until it is viable. Hey, pause it for a second. Go to hell. A fetus,
Merriam-Webster dictionary. Fetus. A developing human. Merriam-Webster. And that's not even Latin,
that's just what it says. You know, specifically, a developing human from usually two months after
conception to birth. So, you know, why is, you know, they like to use this terminology to hide
behind their murder. Oh, it's just a fetus, or it's just cells, or just DNA, or it's just whatever.
You know, that's why I like, I like the name of the heartbeat bill, even though I'm not really for
that particular legislation. I think it should be at conception, but at least they're identifying,
like, this is a heartbeat. You know, why in the world would you destroy a heartbeat? And I agree
with that logic, it's just, let's go even further. And so, you know, they... Isn't it the woman's
heartbeat according to their logic? No. It's a baby's heartbeat. It's, she has two heartbeats,
she has two hearts? Two hearts, four hands, four feet. Let's keep going with this psychopath
leftist. So I want to talk to you about something very quickly. I can't let you get past that. Are
you saying a baby is a disease or a tumor? A parasite is not a disease and a tumor,
those are not the same thing. A parasite is defined as something that cannot survive
outside of its host. A baby, before it is viable, cannot survive outside of a woman's womb.
Got it. So let's...
Let's pause that again, too. I would love to use the leftist logic here and see,
a baby is a parasite. Okay. Well, let's look up the word parasite too, because, you know,
I guess leftist hate dictionaries. A parasite is an organism living in, on, or with another organism
in order to obtain nutrients, grow or multiply, often in a state that directly or indirectly
harms the host. Oh, that was an inconvenient statement that she didn't bring up, that the
parasite harms the host in its process of gaining nutrients and growing. So is that what the baby is
doing? Is the baby harming the host or is it actually benefiting the host in any way? In fact,
I've seen studies that say that women that give birth actually live longer lives than women who
do not give birth. So did the fetus harm the host? Did the baby harm the host? Obviously,
the woman is uncomfortable. Obviously, the woman, uh, his body is changing. And, and of course,
there's pain associated with childbirth, but there's no such thing as that literally long-term
having harmful effects to the host. There's plenty of studies that show that women live
longer. I mean, what kind of a sick phraseology to call a baby a parasite? What a sick, disgusting
person. It can only come from a repulsive, evil, demonic person. And that's exactly who that is up
there. This is somebody who has been completely twisted by Satanism, by feminism, which is one
and the same. Both of those concepts, one and the same. And you see it here manifesting right here
in front of us. This is what happens when you hate God. This is what happens when you don't have the
Bible, when you don't have the Lord Jesus Christ, when you've completely rejected the Christian
worldview and truth as a whole. You get this. Calling a baby a parasite. What kind of freak
are we looking at right here? Well, and let's, let's read some comments. Always Baptist says,
that's not health care, you devil whore. Jesus Lover 122 says, just because the majority support
it doesn't make it right. Swords to Plowshares says, life begins at conception. Jesus Lover 122,
yeah, I've heard dems call them parasites. It's sick. Pillar and Ground says, all the fetuses
are going to come back in the resurrection and judge their murderous whore mothers with a sword.
They are bloodthirsty. Swords to Plowshares says, exactly, Pillar. Always Baptist says,
just a bunch of whores that want to drink and have sex without any consequences.
We also have Jesus Lover 122 saying, what a demonic thing to call a human baby a quote,
parasite. Lots of good comments in here, good interactions. If you'd like to try and join the
show as a, as a conversation, you can try to go to our spaces. I've dropped it in the chat a couple
times. I have a few people join. I'll try to add you as a speaker and we'd love to have a
conversation with you as well. You can join in the conversation. Um, also, uh, we are going to
play some more clips here. Let's go ahead and, uh, tee up the next clip for these, uh, wonderful
presidential candidate options that we have here. Let me respond this to the rallies. She said,
people start leaving. People don't go to her rallies. There's no reason to go. And the people
that do go, she's busing them in and paying them to be there and then showing them in a different
light. So she can't talk about that. People don't leave my rallies. We have the biggest rallies,
the most incredible rallies in the history of politics. That's because people want to take
their country back. Our country is being lost. We're a failing nation and it happened three
and a half years ago. And what's going on here, you're going to end up in world war three just
to go into another subject. What they have done to our country by allowing these millions and
millions of people to come into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over
the United States. And a lot of towns don't want to talk. It's not going to be Aurora or Springfield.
A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it.
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats,
they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what's
happening in our country. And it's a shame as far as rallies are concerned, as far as
the reason they go is they like what I say. Wow. You know, it's funny how she just laughs
everything off as if it's not happening. But there's plenty of videos and reports of
Haitian immigrants that have taken over Springfield, Ohio. I believe I've seen
reports or seen people saying that there's 20,000 migrants that have been basically placed in this
particular city. And I think that according to residents, they say that the migrants outnumber
the local residents, that they were maybe approximately 16,000 residents in the city,
and they just randomly drop off 20,000 migrants over a period of time, most of which are Haitians.
And they're saying that the Haitians are given money for housing, they're giving money for food.
But because they're also just, you know, not domesticated, they're literally just rounding
up cats, dogs, and all kinds of local pets, stray animals, and they're cooking and eating them.
I don't know how fringe that is. I don't know if that was like, this happened one time,
this is happening regularly. You know, Fido is now on the dinner table for somebody out there.
And I guess there was a billboard in Arizona. I saw this, I guess this is supposedly a real
billboard. It shows all these kittens in a cow uniform saying that the Democrats are going to
eat. It's like, save the kittens. It looks like a Chick-fil-A ad, kind of. I wonder if I can find
that. Have you even heard about any of this? I haven't heard about the Haitian migrants.
That's news to me. Thanks for sharing that. I want to comment one last thing on the abortion,
just in case you're new. Again, I think I'm anticipating new people tuning in.
The Bible teaches that life begins at conception. Isaiah 7 14 says,
therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign. Behold, a virgin shall conceive. And then in
Matthew chapter 1, the New Testament parallel quotes Isaiah 7, and it says, behold, a virgin
shall be with child. So clearly, conception correlated to being with child according to
scripture. And this is an area in which both candidates are wrong. Trump is wrong on this,
and it goes without saying, Kamala is as well. Moving forward, we have Trump talking about
rallies. To be fair, some people do leave Trump rallies. It's not because they don't like Trump,
or they're not happy with what he's saying, or something like that. I've been to Trump rallies,
I've seen people leave, and often it's because it's very hot. He's going on and on forever,
and maybe they just need to sit down somewhere. People leave. So I think it happens. It just
doesn't happen because they dislike him, or something like that. Can you pull up my
browser window? Because I'm kind of curious about this. I'm interested on this here. This is Snopes.
So Snopes reported on this. What billboard are you? Arizona GOP
launches Eat Less Kittens billboards referencing unfounded conspiracy theory. So it appears when I
kind of skim through this article quickly, it appears like Snopes is not saying that
these billboards aren't true. They're saying that the conspiracy theory is unfounded.
But I believe that this is a legitimate thing, that in Arizona, they literally have this
billboard. Who's eating kittens? Someone says it looks photoshopped. I don't know.
Let's see. I'm kind of curious. A mock-up image of the billboard's design showed four kittens
dressed as cows. A post on the party's Facebook. New AOZ billboard Eat Less Kittens blah blah blah.
Arizona Republican Party. Eat Less Kittens vote Republican. This campaign highlights blah blah
blah. If you're driving in Phoenix, keep out an eye for it. They say they are live. Catch our
newest billboard across 12 locations in the Phoenix metro area. I think that, you know,
maybe someone said it looks photoshopped. Well, I'm sure the image itself is photoshopped. I mean,
obviously, I don't think they got kittens to put on cow uniforms and take a photo op. But
this person says also, yes, this is a real billboard in Arizona. The media is going all
out to cover up these stories about illegal aliens eating people's pets.
They don't want the truth out there too late. The illegals like kittens.
I mean, obviously, this, I mean, it does look a little photoshopped. I'm not gonna lie.
I thought it was the Chinese that, oh no, that's the dogs.
I don't think that this article says that that's not true. Like, the billboard's not true. I think
it's just saying that the information in the billboard is not accurate. I'm kind of curious.
Is anybody in the chat or somewhere that lives in Arizona that maybe knows if that's even true?
I don't know. But we did have somebody that is joined as a speaker in our spaces. I want to see,
again, we're just testing these things out. I think we have Eternal Chud.
Um, can you hear us in there? Can, can you speak?
Hey, pastor Shelley, can you hear me? Yeah. How's it going?
Good. Thanks for having me on. And Hey, I listened to that spaces yesterday. That was excellent.
So I appreciate you doing that. I went on for a while, but a lot of good information there.
Anyway, I'm grateful to get the opportunity.
Yeah, that was great. Um, so yeah, I just was going to weigh in on the Haitian migrant thing.
Um, so, you know, maybe there's a bit of an exaggeration going on, but we know the Democrats
like to run hoaxes. You know, they'd be going on about the fine people hoax for years and the
drinking bleach hoax and the Trump callings, you know, the, the general suckers and losers
hoax or the soldiers, whatever. So I think they're just running out of hoaxes to run. And, uh, so
they're, I expect that they're probably going to just hone in on this one and say, uh, the,
you know, the Republicans are exaggerating about this Haitian migrant thing, but all I've seen so
far is that they, the, uh, you got a video of like this woman and I guess it was Ohio, you know,
carrying the dead cat and she got caught eating the cat. So that's like a documented video.
And then you also have, uh, you know, the recent photo this week of, you know, Haitian man walking
down the street, carrying a dead goose, you know, it's not a pet, but it's like people in our
country aren't just going and, you know, whacking geese on the street, carrying them around,
cooking them on the side of the road. So this is, this is also probably related to their
voodoo religion. You know, this is the kind of stuff they do down there. They, they just eat
anything. Um, so that's, I think that's a kind of a, a big concern with the immigration, uh,
coming for me as a, you know, Baptist Christian is like, I don't want my kids growing up in this
country with all these other gods, all these foreign influences pouring in. And so this is
a big reason I'm a Trump supporter is, you know, we, we need to close the border and try to preserve
like he said tonight, the fabric of what we have, you know, I know it's gone to hell and
last 50 years haven't been so great, but you know, it could still be recoverable and people
can turn back to God. We see that repeatedly throughout scripture. So if you have anything
to add to that, well, I mean, I don't think there's even a question whether or not Trump's
better than Kamala is far as at least what they say. You know, I mean, again, if we, if we just,
if we try to say that there, these politicians are going to be somewhat, uh, honest with their
campaign, they're going to do some of the things that they said. Um, it seems like the establishment
hates Trump. It seems like from the surface that Trump is going to be better now, whether or not
that's true, I think is unknowable. Um, obviously Trump, uh, you know, his presidency was,
was better than Obama. I mean, it was way better than Obama. And, uh, yet at the end of his
presidency, it was bad. I mean, COVID came in, he allowed that stuff to happen and, and
he hasn't even really taken some of that back. So, you know, it's hard to even say for sure,
to me, if Trump is going to be better, I feel like because of the way our country is run,
the president doesn't have as much power as we really wish that maybe he has in this particular
scenario. But, um, you know, I can totally understand why people want Trump to be, uh,
you know, elected president and, and I'm, I'm empathetic towards that position. I'm not,
I'm not hating on people for that because I totally understand that they, it doesn't
mean that they like Trump or think he saved or think he's a Christian or any of that kind of
stuff. Um, and I understand their, their mindset, but at the same time, I guess I just, to me,
it's unknowable whether it's even a better option. I mean, what is your perspective on this, Ben?
I think it's a better option on the surface. We will see how his presidency plays out if
he somehow gets in, but, uh, I would probably say, yeah, Trump is, you know, for sure a better
choice. And it all comes down to whether or not he will fulfill some of his campaign promises
as it relates to immigration, as it relates to the economy and things of that nature.
So that does remain, but he didn't lock her up in 2016. I mean, so that's what I'm saying is
I think things can change after he gets elected, but if he's going to follow through with the
things that he's promising, I think the potential is there for Trump to be a pretty good president.
Eternal. What do you think about the likelihood of Trump
honoring his promises or being able to even do some of the things he says?
Well, I see him as, you know, a salesman. Um, so it's obvious that he's, he's hyperbolic.
He exaggerates. Um, but I think directionally, you know, what he's talking about is true,
even if it's not exactly accurate all the time. Um, and as a salesman working on behalf of the
people, you know, that's kind of his job. So I'm, I'm happy that, um, you know, he's, he's,
you know, you saw tonight in the debate, they wanted to get on this race question
at the, towards the end, all this social muck that the Democrats just love to wallow in.
And, you know, he, he completely pivoted the question back to core issues like the economy,
foreign policy, you know, just things that the government actually should be involved with
administrating. Um, so I can tell his focus is obviously a lot more adept for the job.
And I would agree that the president probably isn't actually running everything. Um, as the
public perceives probably more of like a middle manager, but still that middle manager position
is important to affect overall sentiment, you know, for the observers throughout the country
and the international economy. Um, so yeah, I mean, look, I don't expect Trump is just
going to step in and save us within four years. We've been on a rapid decline,
but I think it is a chance to pump the brakes. Um, you know, versus it's kind of a vote for
let's, let's try to slow down the decline versus let's rapidly accelerate it further.
This is an analogy I came up with and it's like, you're on a boat,
it's got a couple of holes in it. It's sinking. And one option is to put a sock in one of the
holes. And the other option is to blow like 10 more holes in the boat. And, and I feel like
Trump is like the sock, like it's not going to fix the problem, but it doesn't hurt the problem.
It just kind of maybe for a very, very short temporary moment might stop a little bit of water
leaking in the boat, but there's still other holes. The water's going to get soaked and it's
going to let water come back in again. Whereas I guess that's obviously better than just blowing
more holes in the boat, but you know, I don't really see it as a, as a solution. It's just
kind of like, obviously it's, it's not a brain. It's not like purposely trying to destroy the
nation. What do you think about that, Ben? I think that your analogy is appropriate
because Trump and really no man, I mean, let's just be honest, no man will be the ultimate
solution to America's problems, but certainly not Trump with all of his pitfalls, especially
accounting for them. I have a question for you though, and I want to throw it back over to you.
Can Trump somehow though enable Christians to then provide the true solution? We always talk
about the King James Bible and a return to the Lord Jesus Christ is what can save America.
Is it possible that through Trump policies that perhaps, unknowingly even, he can enable us to
come in and be a little more effective? What do you think about that? Well, you have William
Tyndale in his dying breath saying, open the King of England's eyes. I think that, you know, that
would be maybe apropos or a similar type situation, or maybe, you know, you could hope that Trump would
open his eyes, but I think, again, if we contextualize that quote, that's a king.
A king actually has the ability to really move mountains if he wants it, whereas the president
is, again, a little bit more figurehead, not as powerful as we necessarily would even perceive,
I think, in some cases. So I think you just need a cultural change. I don't think you need a
presidential change. I think you need a revival of the culture. But having the president bringing up
the King James Bible and embracing Christianity would certainly help bolster that. The Bible does
tell us to pray for kings and to honor the king, and I think that's in the context of trying to
draw the nation back to God. And, you know, we see wicked people. We see Ahab. We see other kings that
were pretty bad, and even Manasseh, which is crazy, at one point kind of get right with God.
And so is it possible? I don't know. I mean, he almost got assassinated. I would think at that
point. Like, if that doesn't wake you up, I don't know. Maybe the right
person doesn't come along. Maybe the heart was softened. I don't know. What I'm more referring
to isn't Trump necessarily coming out and saying, let's all be King James only, or something like
that. But what I more so mean is, maybe through his policy that he plans to implement, maybe he
does something about the censorship, maybe the immigration, curbing immigration helps us out in
some way. I'm just wondering if his platform can maybe aid our mission as Christians in some way,
shape, or form. Well, hey, I mean, I kind of want to play this clip too, but I don't want to get too
far off the debate yet. But Josh Hawley, he's gotten up and said, like, we need to get back to
faith in Jesus Christ and be a Christian nation again. And, you know, he's a person that at least
is saying the right things, whether he believes them. I don't really know a lot about what he
necessarily believes specifically. But I mean, just some of the rhetoric I heard sounded really
good. And yeah, of course, I would love to see a debate where someone actually said that,
instead of, let's kill, you know, babies for incest and rape and stuff like that. But
I do think Trump can be pressured. Let's play some more of this clip. And if you, you know,
we'll keep eternal in here as a speaker, and we may go back to you. But if you want to join us on
spaces, we can add some more people as speakers. Let's go ahead and play a little bit more of this
clip. And then we'll jump back to the debate. She was big on Defund the Police. In Minnesota,
she went out, wait a minute, I'm talking now. If you don't mind, please. Does that sound familiar?
She went out. She went out in Minnesota and wanted to let criminals that killed people
that burned down Minneapolis. She went out and raised money to get them out of jail.
She did things that nobody would ever think of. Now she wants to do transgender operations on
illegal aliens that are in prison. This is a radical left liberal that would do this.
She wants to confiscate your guns, and she will never-
She didn't call him a liar.
If she won the election, fracking in Pennsylvania will end on day one. Just to finish one thing-
Oh, that's a, you know, it's important to get some of those Pennsylvania things in there because
Pennsylvania is going to decide this election, pretty much in my opinion. You know,
if you really look at the breakdown, it's kind of almost impossible for Trump to win
without Pennsylvania. And if the Democrats do procure Pennsylvania, it seems like it's pretty
much a shoo-in. You kind of have to ask yourself, how fair is the election going to be with Josh
Shapiro as governor? But in the previous election, I think they're the ones that were famous for
putting the big white poster boards up on the windows, I think in Pittsburgh. Maybe I'd be
correct. Was it Philadelphia?
I thought it was Detroit. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I thought that would happen in Detroit. We
can fact check.
Let's fact check that. We can fact check that live, okay?
I like the clip there. I'll just say that that's Trump at his best when he's attacking. I want him
in attack mode, not just constant defense mode. Let's see, maybe this, does anybody know in the
chat if that was where that was? I thought it was Pennsylvania specifically. Maybe you're,
let me see.
Seemed like Detroit. Do we still have the person on spaces? Maybe he can help us out.
Do you know Eternal? Okay, this one says Michigan. It might have been both, but perhaps it was,
it looks like it's definitely Michigan for sure. I don't know if it was also another place.
Okay. I'll have to take that back.
I think I was right on that.
For the first time ever, on air, folks.
Can you put a penny in the Ben was right jar?
Ben was right.
All right, go ahead and let's keep playing the next clip here.
Excuse me. Every one of those cases was started by them against their political opponent,
and I'm winning most of them and I will win the rest on appeal. And you saw that with the
decision that came down just recently from the Supreme court. I'm winning most of them,
but those are cases it's called weaponization. Never happened in this country. They weaponized
the justice department. Every one of those cases was involved with the DOJ from Atlanta
and Fawnee Willis to, to the attorney general of New York and the da in New York,
every one of those cases. And then they say, Oh, he was, he's a criminal. They're the ones that
made them go after me, by the way, Joe Biden was found essentially guilty on the documents case.
And what happened in my documents case? They said, Oh, that's the toughest of them all.
A complete and total victory. Two months ago, it was thrown out. It's weaponization and they
used it and it's never happened in this country. They used it to try and win an election. Still
not calling them a liar. He's right. I mean, everything he said was right. But think about
this. She's constantly interrupting when she felt like it was a lie. She didn't lie. She didn't
interrupt there either. Did she shut her mouth? The weaponization of government is, is a really
scary thing because if they go after Trump, let's be honest, they're going to go after anybody. And
I don't know if you remember this, but the, the past election, we did a live stream and I said,
the one thing I like about Trump is he's kind of like a target and a shield under us. And that if
he goes, they're going to put a lot more heat on us specifically. Do you remember me saying this?
You did? Yeah. You send this in the 2020 stream. We did. Did we have any
extra heat from 2020 until now? 2020 until now. Anything crazy happened to
steadfast Baptist church in fact, in any of those timelines? A lot of it. And it happened in the
Biden presidency. So, you know, there was, I hate to be right on that point. There was prophecy on
that stream. I could, I could see it happening. That's what I do like about Trump is he's a little
bit of a shield for a lot of the hate, a lot of the attention, you know, and he's even said that
they're coming after you. I'm just standing in the way. And I, I have to say it feels like that's
true from anecdotal evidence. I've heard, and I've entertained folks who believe that Trump is like
in the club or he's in the new world order, or he's part of the globalist establishment in some
way. But the thing is like when they tried to assassinate him, that to me just ended all talk
about that. And it made it not valid. Now I understand folks will come back and say, well,
that whole thing was fake and whatever. How about the law fair being drained of all of his money?
Like who would sign up for that? I would sign up to be hated by everybody.
I'm not into that. I don't believe that. He had property seized in New York. He had all of this,
just the, the, these, uh, judges coming after him, the corruption, the smears, the attack. I mean,
like, I just don't see why he would want to do that as a, as an individual. You know, to me,
it's clear that there's at least two forces vying for power in the, in the political sphere,
probably even more. And that, yeah, is he possibly in with some dark people, some bad people? Sure.
Is it possible that it's the same evil people and they're playing both sides? That could even be
true, but I don't think he's working with the Democrats directly. I think that that,
that narrative just doesn't really fit with a lot of the other evidence.
Yeah. And the weaponization of the justice system, we've seen it over the years it's happening and
it's happening to him. And you know, whether you think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread
or the devil incarnate, I think you could agree that they have attacked him vehemently. The media
is almost on like a 24 seven rampage against this guy. He's very much hated. So again, some people
say, well, that's part of the theater. I just personally don't see it that way. I respect your
opinion. If that's what you believe, I'm just not there. It's not what I personally would hold to.
We added another speaker into our space. Interesting name, small cost. So we'll see
Holocaust, small cost, you know, whatever. How's it going? Can you hear us?
Can you hear me? Yep.
Is it clear? Yeah. Loud and clear.
Good deal. Well, I've just been listening and it's kind of a conversation on what, what,
what actions we take and what, what do we do with our, our, our vote? This, this cycle.
Sorry about that. The Haitians haven't gotten to small yet because his dog's still alive, folks.
Yeah. Right. Not up here. Not up here. I'll let you know if I see him coming.
But I was just, my, my thoughts are that if, what, what would happen if, if 2016 was a
contest between Jeb Bush and Hillary, what would we, yeah, I think for sure, Hillary won.
You have, right. Don't you agree? But like, where would we be in our,
in our worldview at this point? Or where would I be? Because I, you know, a lot of people got
into politics B because of Trump, you know, who would be, would you be on Twitter without Trump?
Would you, you know, the Bolshevik revolution might've already happened.
Right, right.
In my experience, a lot of these mainline Republicans, sorry, go ahead.
Oh, I was just saying, you know, I think it's the 10, the, uh, intangibles that, that have been
accomplished by Trump more than actual policy that have really changed. I mean, take for instance,
I know you had a riot nationalist on, and so the conversation about masculinity would
that have happened without Trump? I think, you know, just intangibles like that instead of
actual, like, what has Trump done for us? Oh, I mean, I was, you know, I hated it.
Would you have been a red pill? The fact that Trump was, was just like, uh, I mean, I,
I thought that with Obama becoming president, our country was doomed. I'm just going to be honest,
like I personally thought, and I even voted for me. Um, but you know, and I'm not,
I'm not trying to say that was a good move because he's a Mormon, but I just, I knew that Obama was
bringing Obamacare. I knew that he was going to change America and it was going to be horrible.
And, you know, I was really upset that Obama was elected president. And, you know, again,
when Hillary, I thought it was going to be even worse. I'm like, man, she's going to be,
again, the Bible says that if we have a woman leader, we're cursed. So, you know,
yeah, we have, if we have Kamala, we're cursed for sure. It's the thing that,
well, that's the most, that's what motivates me, if anything, to vote for Trump. Not that
I'm, I'm in a Democrat state, but I mean, can you imagine a woman president?
I mean, you know, it's, it's harder for me to say because I'm, I'm in Texas and, you know, I,
if we lose, if we lose Texas, it's, it's not because of me not voting. It's because they
cheated because Texas will for sure go Republican in a free and fair election. And I think that
I could see how people that live in California or live in Texas, or some of these other States,
some of these other States, they could feel a little bit just disenfranchised from their vote
mattering or from their vote counting. And so, you know, again, I think this discussion,
unfortunately, for people that live in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Ohio,
Michigan, you know, some of these States, it's, it's a little bit more of a practical decision,
like, do they get involved? And, you know, again, I'm not, I'm not throwing shade at people that
want to vote for Trump, because I get it. It just, you know, at the same time, you know,
I'm kind of a moral purist. So I just, I still don't even know that I would do it.
But I'm exactly, if someone can't say that they're anti-abortion, then what business do I have
voting for them? You know what I mean? But then again, you were talking to, uh, I want to, I can't
remember his name, but the discussion about the rigged election saying, you know, Nick Fuentes is
exactly, yeah. Um, Nick Fuentes is, you know, uh, as of right now saying don't vote for Trump,
uh, but are people in
like Michigan and Wisconsin, are they going to actually withhold their vote?
Or is it just people like me who say, Oh, he said six weeks is
too short, really matter anyways, because I'm in a blue state.
I don't know. I, you know, I don't know what the impact is going to be. Um, I think,
I think that was a good space that we had the other day and, you know, people want to
get a better perspective. I think that we covered a lot of topics there and a lot of opinions, but,
um, you know, I don't know. I really appreciate your, your comments. Let's, let's play,
we'll keep you here on as a speaker, but let's play a little bit more of this debate and let's
kind of keep getting through some of this. Cause I'm not sure you brought up some of the points
that I haven't quite got to you. So I'm kind of curious. On January 6th, you told your supporters
to March to the Capitol. You said you would be right there with them. The country and the world
saw what played out of the Capitol that day, the officers coming under attack AIDS in the West
wing. So you watched it unfold on television off the oval office. You did send out tweets,
but it was more than two hours before you sent out that video message,
telling your supporters to go home. Is there anything you regret about what you did on that
day? You just said a thing that isn't covered peacefully and patriotically. I said during my
speech, not later on, peacefully and patriotically, and nobody on the other side was killed.
Ashley Babbitt was shot by an out of control police officer that should have never, ever shot
her. It's a disgrace, but we didn't do this group of people that have been treated so badly. I ask,
what about all the people that are pouring into our country and killing people that she,
I mean, good point. I thought that was a good talking point. What do you think?
He did a good job on that. Well, yeah, and he should pivot because it's a stupid,
rigged question by leftist media there. But he still answered it.
He answered it, and then he pivots to immigration, but I think he answered it fine.
This is just an illustration of the media bias. We have the Baptist bias. They have the Satan bias.
I love the devil bias. Let's play another clip. How many more, I'm just kind of curious,
what kind of clips do we have left, Ben? Have you been paying attention?
You might ask her that question. You were the president. You were watching
it unfold on television. It's a very simple question as we move forward toward another
election. Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day?
No, because it was an FBI operation. I had nothing to do with that other than
they asked me to make a speech. I showed up for a speech. I said, I think it's going to be big.
I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington, D.C., and the mayor put it back
in writing, as you know. I said, you know, this is going to be a very big rally or whatever you
want to call it. And again, it wasn't done by me. It was done by others. I said, I'd like to
give you ten thousand National Guard or soldiers. They rejected me. Nancy Pelosi rejected me. It was
just two weeks ago. Her daughter has a tape of her saying she is fully responsible for what happened.
They want to get rid of that tape. It would have never happened if Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of
Washington did their jobs. I wasn't responsible for security. Nancy Pelosi was responsible.
She didn't do her job. The question. Good point. I want to read a comment.
Pillar and Ground says, I appreciate him not shilling hard for the Jews tonight,
even though Kamala baited him. Again, we didn't watch the entire debate in full form,
but we got some of the highlights here. And it appears that, you know, again, I didn't get to
see the whole thing get a whole feel for it, but it kind of feels like it was kind of a wash. I
don't know. It doesn't seem like maybe much ground was made either way, which is probably a Kamala
win. I don't know. What do you think? Impossible for me to say without. I got to sit down and
watch from beginning to end. But I have liked the Trump clips. There's a few things that pissed me
off about him, his abortion stance, things like that. But the Trump clips I've seen, I think he's
done a good job, the ones that we've been watching tonight. And again, I think when you look at the
way that he's handling this rigged garbage question about January 6th, attaching him with
the responsibility for an FBI inside job that happened on that day, the deep state inside job
that happened on that day is preposterous to anyone with a working brain. But this is just the
left-wing playbook is to claim that their opponents are inciting violence when in fact
they're the ones who do that on a regular basis. They're the ones who radicalize people
like the LGBT sodomite fags who go up and shoot schools. Well, it just seems like, you know, from
my perspective again, I didn't watch the whole thing, but it seems like they just needed to get
up there, cackle a few times, call them a liar, repeat a few talking points, and then just make it
seem like Trump said a bunch of lies and Kamala stood strong and she called him out as a liar,
as all the headlines, and then they can just say, oh, Kamala's even polling higher now, you know,
she's getting 150% of the vote now. So, you know, I agree with your assessment. I think that,
I think the only way she could have lost is she just like totally just was inept. Yes. Just think
about how low the bar was with Biden. Yeah. I mean, that's true. Or if Trump got a couple
really good one-liners on top of her, but I didn't see that. Again, I didn't see the whole debate.
I think that all of his points made sense and they were clear. It just wasn't necessarily like
noteworthy, like this is going to be viral. This is going to blow up the internet. Because you'd
be in jail. Yeah, that was pretty epic. It feels like it was kind of a nothing burger in the
headlines are going to run that Kamala won and, you know, debates, sometimes they can just kind
of feel like nobody won or, you know, both sides just kind of claimed victory, but it wasn't really
decisive. I don't know. What are your thoughts? Maybe the chat can help us. Not an election
changing debate. Like the last one. For any of you that watched the debate, did you think that
there was a clear winner? What was your, what was your responses? Maybe we can get some, some
feedback. Is there, give us a T if T won, give us some Ks. That's hilarious. Give us some Ks.
Who's going to put K? Maybe. Okay. W. Well, I would say W for whore, but it sounds,
it seems like a win. Yeah. That's a win. I don't want to, I don't want to put that in there. The
last debate was election changing. This one, not so much, arguably based on what we've seen so far.
Of course we were recording during it. So let's ask, uh, let's eternal. Did you, did you kind of
watch more of the debate than some of the clips we shared? I'm just kind of curious what your
overall opinion was of the, yeah, I finished the whole thing. Um, I mean, I thought Trump did have
a lot of good moments. I don't think they were like really sound bites per se, but, uh, I don't
know if you noticed anytime he had a really nice finisher, you know, something that, um, would have
been difficult for her to respond to the moderators kind of just assisted her by sweeping it and just
letting it go quiet, letting it fall. And then just, you know, introducing a new topic to her.
So she had very few followups where she was actually engaging his criticisms. You know,
he came off more critical, more negative. Um, but there's a lot to be negative about. And I think
if anything, um, you know, with the last three, four years, uh, the American public is pretty fed
up and Trump is tapping into that vein. Um, so I think people will resonate with the way he was
coming across and I, she was also making a lot of faces while he was talking. I don't think that's
gonna, that's not going to help her out. I mean, what, what is she going to make faces to foreign
leaders when she goes and meets them and she doesn't like what they're saying? Yeah, it just
doesn't look very professional. I don't even think they'll want to meet her. They won't, they don't
want to get AIDS or something, but, uh, someone put here in the chat, um, always Baptist. Trump
was a clear winner. Kamala just said nothing over and over. Uh, Jenny RAS said, I watched it and
feel like Trump won because he hammered home that everything she's saying she'll do, she could have
been doing right now. I think that's an excellent point. I'm glad to hear that he did bring that
home and did, it did at least address it's just thinking like, why aren't you fixing our country
now? Why aren't you fixing our border now? Why aren't you fixing the economy now? Like,
why aren't you doing anything? I mean, let's, it's so funny. Have you seen these videos where
they're asking Kamala supporters, like name your favorite thing that Kamala did in office or name
your favorite policy. And they're just like, uh, she's great. You know, orange man, just love her.
Yeah. It was just like they, they were obviously caught and they have no idea what they liked
about her. And I'd like to put you on the hotspot here, Ben, name your favorite thing Trump did in
his presidential, uh, presidency of 2016 to 2020. Hmm. That's a good one. Let's see.
We want to be fair to the leftist. Can we put you on the hotspot? Can you think of anything?
Just name something you liked. It doesn't have to be your favorite. No new wars. I appreciated
his foreign policy as president. And in particular, what I thought was pretty cool is
his diplomacy with Russia, which the media hated. They want world war three badly, and they want us
to be adversarial to Russia. So the highlight of Trump's presidency for me was how he handled
his foreign policy decisions specifically as it relates to Russia, getting along with Putin and
additionally visiting North Korea and walking across the DMZ in a bad-ass move and also a show
of diplomacy, wanting to make deals with these people rather than saber rattling with them. Now,
he did do that at first with Kim Jong-un on Twitter, calling him rocket man, but eventually
they went to the negotiation table and I applaud leaders who are willing to negotiate, who are
willing to meet and try to come to some kind of agreement rather than perpetuating the forever
wars that America has been involved with for decades. So I would point to those events.
Let's put our guest here. Eternal, do you have something that you liked from the presidency?
Oh, yeah. I mean, the immigration numbers were, you know, suppressed about year three.
He built the cages, Joe. Just kidding.
You know, I think he spent a lot of the presidency kind of being defensive. You know,
there was just this whole, you know, the Steele dossier and all these attacks from the media
coming at him. Um, so I, you know, he was able to accomplish quite a lot, you know,
he didn't take all these vacations like Biden's been doing. I mean,
Biden's been out of office. What does Biden do?
Exactly. Um, so I think he's, you know, he has a lot of energy. He's very active president. I
agree with Ben. The foreign policy was solid. Um, but, uh, you know, I think he could probably
accomplish a lot more as a lame duck president, you know, cause then all these targets on him
wouldn't matter so much. Yeah. Um, uh, I want to read some of the chat because they put some
stuff in here. So Hey, we're not leftist. We can't, uh, we're not just dumbfounded by the
question. Um, it did take me a second to be clear. I think that's fair that it takes a second,
but I'm just saying you, you came up with an answer. Always. Baptist said the wall.
That's a, that's an interesting point. Uh, Nate, he reigns said he began the
widespread distrust of the media. I like that point. And I have, I have to be honest,
the fake news was pretty good. Yeah. I thought that that was pretty legit. Um,
Amy lead said, drilled our own oil and you know, Hey, that was a pretty good point.
Pillar and ground said the Kim Jong Un meeting was really bad. A, uh,
Navy rain said almost bought Greenland. I don't even know. I don't know anything about that one.
I don't know what that person is talking about. Uh, swords and plowster says at least our economy
is better under Trump and that's about it. Um, I, I want to ask this question. I think so.
Didn't, didn't he kind of end Obamacare or didn't he put in a cease to that? Uh, maybe we can fact
check repeal and replace is what he ran on in 2016. So I would imagine he did Obamacare.
I think one of the, one of the things about the Trump presidency that I like too is that I feel
like it woke up a lot of these mainline Republicans that voted for Bush and thought that the GOP was
inherently good because when they saw the establishment on both sides of the political
aisle going after him, I think it demonstrated to them and showed that there is a deep state.
There is a Uniparty force, the ruling class that play ball, plays ball with both teams and both
sides of the political spectrum. And it really helped to get these people to recognize that and
become aware of that. I think so. Okay. So a lot of people helped me in the comments that said,
no, he ended the tax. So he didn't, he didn't get it repealed. I guess he just got rid of the
insurance mandate, which I'll be honest. I actually had to pay the mandate every single year.
So I was grateful that we got rid of that. We had a couple other people join us in the spaces,
Quad Life. Well, I guess they just, they were there for a second.
We have another one. Joanna, let's go ahead and see. Can you hear us?
Yes, I could hear you. How's it going?
Good. I just love your show. I go to Faithful or Tucson.
Awesome. Did you watch any of the debate or were you watching our show or?
Yeah, I watched the entire debate actually.
So what were your thoughts on, what was your overall opinion of the debate?
I found it very interesting. It almost seemed like the people running the debate were really
on Kamala's side. Like she always had a chance to kind of keep talking and I don't know. I just,
I really thought it was very biased in the sense of they were kind of left-leaning.
And then they asked Trump, they asked about Kamala now being Black when she used to be
Indian or something. And I just found that kind of funny. Like they were kind of trying to bring up
that he pretty much insulted her and it just seemed like not very important to the debate.
So the fact that they would even bring it up was kind of dumb.
Yeah. Well, it is kind of interesting. She's Indian and Black, right?
Supposedly.
Yeah. And her accent changes depending on who she's talking to too.
I don't know if you guys saw the videos of that.
She doesn't seem very Black as far as her persona or how she communicates or how she carries
herself except for when it's convenient. She also doesn't seem very Indian, honestly. I mean,
it just seems like she's kind of being a chameleon here with her perception. I don't know. What do
you think, Ben? Do you think she seems a particular way? Nah, I just think she's a disingenuous whore.
Well, that's pretty blunt, but sure.
This is a woman who's done untold damage during her political career and will continue to do so.
And I'd like to see if there would ever be a moderator who would ask her if she regrets
anything that she's done during her political career. But of course, that'll never happen
because the moderator tonight was assisting her. You brought up stepping in. Somebody brought up
stepping in whenever it seemed like she needed help. And she has the full weight of the political
system and the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party, the media behind her. We'll see if that's
enough, if they can rig it again to steal this one like they did in 2020. So, Joanna, did you
feel like Trump still kind of won the debate even though it was pretty biased? Or what was your kind
of thoughts on that? I think he did. I think they made her look a lot better than I thought she was
going to look. I really thought that she was going to give more fuel to the media to make fun of her.
And she actually had sentences that were put together. She wasn't making her normal comments
or funky little laugh. Looks like she stopped doing that. So, I was really looking forward
to her doing more like bombing it a little bit more than what she did. Yeah, that's why I
almost say it seems like maybe from the perception that they're going to kind of run with the fact
that she won the debate even though obviously she couldn't make an articulate point. She was lying.
She was confused. She has bad policy decisions. She's an airhead. She's a whore. There's really
nothing positive we could say about her at all. But I guess to me, I was thinking that she was
going to have to just get body slammed several times for it to make any kind of impact. And so,
it's in my mind kind of disappointing. I think the Hillary debate was actually pretty active,
pretty spicy, a lot of good sound bites. And it doesn't seem like that was necessarily pulled out.
I think if I could wish for something, I would want Trump to have maybe put a spicy comment about
her relationship with Brown from the past. I think he could have probably dropped that. But
maybe because of his own moral failings in that particular issue, he's afraid. But I'm thinking
like she probably can't come back on the fly if he really dropped a hammer and called her a whore.
So, I don't know. But it is what it has been. Wouldn't you like to see him just drop a big
hammer on her with maybe the whore comment or something? Yes. Yeah. Go after her. Stop
defending. Go on attack. Attack mode. Attack, attack, attack, attack with no remorse. That
would be how I would advise him. Do you think that he's holding back because they're trying
to convince him to win more women over? Yeah. He's got advisors. He's got advisors. I agree.
He's got advisors coaching him, as does Kamala. And we have our contributor on Spaces bringing
up that Kamala didn't do her usual inarticulate antics. And I think that's because she has
advisors that gave her memorized points to regurgitate. And she did a good job regurgitating
them as a puppet. But Trump does have advisors as well. And I think that they are coaching him
to dial things back a little bit to appeal to, quote, moderates. I'm kind of curious,
because my wife had messaged me and said that there was a spot where Trump had said that
Kamala's policies were like run, spot, run. Did you remember that, Joanna, from the debate?
We played it earlier. Oh, okay. I missed it. Yeah, that was pretty funny.
Yeah. He pretty much said that she's taking over Joe Biden's plan, pretty much. She doesn't have
her own plan. She's just kind of running on the coattails of that. Yeah. How does Mrs.
Shelley view this whole thing? Is she a Trump? What does she think about Trump? Is it identical?
She was excited to watch the debate. She was excited. She kind of likes the entertainment
aspect. Obviously, she gets mad about Kamala just being an airhead brainless whore. And so
she's a smart cookie. She can usually tell what's going up. So I really appreciate her commentary
too. We had another speaker. I don't know. It seems like it kind of just ebbs and flows here
on X. I don't know. We had JD in as a speaker. I don't know if he's still here or not.
JD Vance or what?
I think so. I think we're getting Trump. Trump's about to join.
Trump's going to join too?
Yeah. Okay. I think we have one more clip. Let's play one more clip. If JD is in there,
we can add him as a speaker again or bring him up.
We're very proud to do it. I would say we would both leave this debate right now.
I'd like to see her go down to Washington DC during this debate because we're wasting a lot
of time. Go down- That was a quick clip. Go down to Washington DC.
Oh, the camera cuts out here and then we should do it.
They don't need bills. They have the right to do it. The President of the United States,
you'll get them out of bed. You'll wake them up at four o'clock in the afternoon. You'll say,
come on down to the office. Let's sign a bill. If he signs a bill that the border is closed,
all he has to do is say it to the border patrol who are phenomenal. If they do that,
the border is closed. Those people are killing many people, unlike J6.
We talked immigration.
So I guess he's really saying like, hey, if you're going to close the border, do it now.
He hammers immigration constantly.
It's a big talking point.
I was just going to ask you, how big of an issue is that for you?
Well, whether it's a big issue to me or not doesn't matter because I did say if I was his
campaign manager, let's just focus on the few issues that matter and just hammer them and just
bring them up over and over and over. Of course, he got trapped in the abortion conversation a
little bit too much, I think, in this debate. You're kind of forced, I guess, to whatever
questions they bring up, but just hammer. I mean, I would have liked to have seen him just bring up
the immigration and the abortion question. Just say, well, the reason why you're even
having this discussion is because all these illegals coming across the border raping people.
They're rapists.
Isn't that a 2016 talking point where he says they're not sending their brightest folks?
Or is it a 2020?
2015, actually, when he first announced he was running for president.
They're not sending their best folks. They're sending rapists.
They're rapists.
And then they were like, Trump calls all Hispanic people rapists or something like that.
But I mean, yeah, it's definitely happening. It's a talking point. So I would have liked
to have seen him just pivot every single time. Just the fact that she's a whore and the border.
The border czar is just like she does with her men, open for business.
Kamala Harris is just like the cats out there. She's the town bicycle. Everybody gets a ride.
Just, you know, just, I would have just, just, just, these are all games anyways, folks,
it's all fake. Just, just go hard, call them fake news. Just, this is your time to just be just on
fire. And that's what I would like to see. But you know, that's just maybe it's just because I
only want the entertainment anyways.
No, I want to see that too. And I want to see entertainment as well. But that is where Trump
is at his best when he's on offense. And he's able to get the zingers in there and really go
after his opponents. You know, when he comes up with these one liners, low energy Jeb from back
in the Republican primaries, the first go around, Crooked Hillary. I mean, this is where he excels
in my mind. And it's unfortunate that his advisors just keep telling him to dial it back. But I think
in the debate clips that we've seen so far, although there wasn't necessarily that one
viral moment, I do think he was showing some aggressiveness in the clips. And I applaud him
for that. And, you know, hopefully it continues. But the thing with Kamala, and you brought this
up, the fact that she wasn't a complete and utter stumbling, bumbling, incoherent mess like Biden
was last time, is going to be viewed by the leftist media as a massive win. And I'm sure
they're going on multiple victory laps right now talking about how wonderful their dear leader
performed tonight. You know, I always look at Drudge Report just to see whatever the left is
talking about. Can you believe? I mean, they used to be conservative. Yeah, they used to be pro
Trump. Yeah, they were super pro Trump and even argued that they helped Trump win the presidency
in 2016. But maybe they killed Matt Drudge or something. I feel like the Drudge Report is a
great way to just figure out what the left is going to talk about next and what their next move
is. Here's the title at the top, the night Trump lost it all. And then they have a picture of him
with a bunch of cats and ducks and says the quote, the end. So hey, I'm just saying what
they're gonna do. They're gonna say he lost it. He's crazy. It's kind of a funny looking picture.
I don't know if you can see it. I'll show it to you, Ben. Maybe they can. He's hanging out here.
I'll go to I'll pull it up on my browser. It's probably because they think his claim
about the pets being eaten is complete fiction. Drudge Report, folks, it's the end. Trump with
the cats. But hey, I mean, it's not a bad talking point. So, you know, they say, Oh,
someone says Drudge is Jewish. I wouldn't be surprised. I think he might be. Is he like a
homo or something? I don't know. I don't know a lot of homo. A Jew. This guy's getting attacked
left. Sorry, if he's not. So I don't know. I don't don't run with that. Don't run with that. Okay.
I'm just reading comments, folks. Okay. But, you know, oh, it's Willie Brown. Yeah.
Willie Brown. Man, our country is just is a joke. Yes, it's a joke. It's a joke that these are the
two best Americans in the country. Like, shouldn't it be the quote, two best Americans to potentially
run our country? And is this really the two best Americans that we have, folks? Is this is this
really representative of the best and the brightest of American politics, of the best
and the brightest to lead our nation? I mean, can you imagine Kamala Harris being our commander in
chief and having to make a decision? Let alone any woman. But I'm just saying, you know, Russia's on
the border. What do we do? Let's go to Kamala to figure it out. And that doesn't that doesn't
sound all what do we do? That doesn't sound very reassuring. It's easy. You're gonna have to
negotiate these hostile terms with this political foe. They're not gonna take her seriously.
It's easy to get blackpilled when you really focus in on politics. That's why regardless,
and I have my preference, I want Trump to win. But I will be sleeping like a baby on election night.
And I really do mean that. I thought, no, we're having an election stream.
Well, when I get home. Okay. All right. You know, you gotta you gotta tune in. We're gonna have a
special Baptist bias election stream. Yeah. And November 3rd. It's either going to be
fun and we're gonna make fun of liberals heads exploding or say the communism is here. I don't
know which one is. Those are two very giant extremes. Let's just be honest. Communism is
here or making fun of left wing heads exploding. I want to tune into the TYT stream that night.
Well, we will, depending. Yes. If Trump wins, because that will be very entertaining.
Although it seems like, I don't know if this is right or wrong. It seems like Cenk and
what's her face? Anna Kasparov. They're moderating a little.
Yeah. Have you seen some of those things? Well, based on what I see on X, maybe a little bit.
I think it's just, but again, I don't know that I can like Trump because he's super pro Israel. And
I think that they're super anti Israel. Isn't that correct? I mean, they'll never in a million
years support Trump, but they're moderating to a more populist view from a left wing perspective.
Well, thanks so much for tuning in guys. Thanks for having the debate recap with us. Of course,
we're going to try and integrate spaces more and more into the show. And I appreciate the
few people that joined us on spaces and had some conversations with us. So you can follow me at
Ben Pastor and on X and on Twitter. Follow Ben the Baptist on Twitter and X as well.
Ben the Baptist.
What is your exact X handle there?
I think if you just search Ben the Baptist, it'll come up. So...
What is the handle though? Just in case.
Baptist Ben 316. Baptist Ben...
Baptist Ben 316.
316.
Is that after Genesis 316?
Not quite.
That's a good verse.
It is a good verse. You can follow me there. And...
First Timothy 316?
First Timothy 316.
God was manifest in the flesh.
That's right. Amen to that.
Or was it... Oh, is it John 316?
It was John 316.
Okay. I like it.
I'm on YouTube as well. I'm back on YouTube. If I can plug that.
Follow him on YouTube. He's putting out videos, hot videos.
Mike Winger was your most recent video, I think. And you tore him up, didn't you?
I think I refuted the points that he made. And, you know, if you have anything to add,
of course, go for it. But what's interesting, Pastor Shelley, is that when you make videos
against these false prophets, their fans brigade the comments section.
So if you agreed with what I said, can you go in there and maybe put a positive comment? Because
all I see is just James White people and Mike Winger people all over the country.
Come on, New IFB. Come on, Baptist. Get out there. Like Ben's, you know, stuff.
We got to get it out there. We got to like it so that he can get enough followers to get banned.
I mean, you know, the fact that he can still be on YouTube is just not fair.
Well, I'll try to keep it YouTube friendly.
I would love to be on YouTube still.
You don't know what that's like being on YouTube. You don't know what that's like.
Yeah. What is YouTube? They don't really like me. I can't even use the app, Ben.
How is that even? You can't even use the YouTube app?
I can't even use the YouTube app. Of course, I can if I log into an anonymous account.
You know, you call me a terrorist. You're the terrorist, it seems.
Yeah, for sure. Somebody said it's already midnight in Jersey, so it's actually 9-11.
They said they'll never forgive you, Ben.
He did not. He said almost forgot to never forget.
Other comments says Ben did it. Another comment says Ben is a terrorist. No, I'm just kidding.
But hey, according to the narrative that the news puts out, there was a Lebanese, at least one,
as part of the hijacker. So I just got to own it. You know what I mean? It's there.
I can't pretend that it's not.
Thanks to our space guests. We appreciate your comments. Thanks to our listeners and those who
were putting in lots of the comments in the chat. Make sure to tune in. I think this Saturday,
we might actually do a special stream kind of late in the evening, and we maybe do a Spaces
again. There was a sermon about our church on Israel, and I think that maybe we should have a
listen. What do you think about that, Ben? It's from Florida.
From Florida. I love Florida.
Can any good thing come out of Florida?
I think so. I think it's a great state. It just has a lot of heretics in it. But this guy saved,
and Pastor Shelley, he had a bone to pick with our church and our view on Zionism.
Hey, we have a Soul Winning marathon coming up in Miami November 16th. So if you'd like to go out,
meet up with us, go Soul Winning. You can send us an email at steadfastbabdiskjv.com.
Sorry, steadfastbabdiskjv.com. Or you could even send the info at Baptist Bias. We'll get you the
info. But we're gonna be meeting up in Miami, Soul Winning marathon.
Amen.
It's gonna be exciting.
That's how you save America.
So we gotta save Florida folks, because they need a lot of help.
Florida man needs a lot, a lot of help.
Spiritually. Carnally, they're good.
I don't know.
This is a gorgeous state.
Gorgeous state.
Palm trees.
So if you'd like to go out there, meet up with us.
Meet and greet with Pastor Shelley.
I got one more guest here.
Will you take pictures?
Yeah, I hope so.
Let's see, I'm trying to bring up one last speaker here for kind of in the show.
1611 populace on our spaces. I don't know if he can join in and give us some last final thoughts
here. But what else would you like to plug before we finish? What's our next show coming up?
Next Tuesday, 8 p.m.
Yeah, we will have a live stream. The show will feature you and I,
and we will be talking on the stream.
No, we have a special guest.
And there's a special guest as well.
Skeeter Gene.
Oh, that's right! Skeeter Gene!
Next Tuesday night, you don't want to miss that one.
8 o'clock Central Time, 7 o'clock Mountain Time.
8 o'clock Central Time.
Yeah, 7 Mountain, 6 Pacific, 9 Eastern, 4 a.m. in Japan.
Not quite sure about the last one, but folks, Skeeter Gene has a YouTube channel
all about catching predators. He calls himself Skeet Hansen.
And yeah, I guess Chris Hansen's long-lost brother.
Tune in next week as we interview him and talk about what he does to keep children safe.
Well, I was going to try and add 1611 populace. Sorry, it looks like he dropped or something,
but thanks again. That's going to do it for us this evening on The Baptist Bias.
Look, folks, everyone's got a perspective, but you need to get The Baptist Bias.