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🎵 Though I might rush you onward,
🎵 I have said that I would keep thy words.
🎵 You did that favour with my whole heart,
🎵 You respond to me according to that word.
🎵 I fall on my wings and turn my feet onto my testimonies.
🎵 I may haste and delay to keep my, keep thy commandments.
🎵 The fans of the wicked have robbed me,
🎵 But I have not forgotten my law.
🎵 At midnight they will rise to give thanks unto thee,
🎵 Because of thy righteous judgement.
🎵 I am a companion of all them that fear thee,
🎵 And defend and keep thy precepts.
🎵 The earth alone is full of honesty,
🎵 It keeps me thy statutes.
🎵 I fall on my wings and turn my feet onto my testimonies.
🎵 I may haste and delay to keep my, keep thy commandments.
🎵 The fans of the wicked have robbed me,
🎵 But I have not forgotten my law.
🎵 At midnight they will rise to give thanks unto thee,
🎵 Because of thy righteous judgement.
🎵 The fans of the wicked have robbed me,
🎵 But I have not forgotten my law.
🎵 At midnight they will rise to give thanks unto thee,
🎵 Because of thy righteous judgement.
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Hey, how's it going, everybody?
We're doing a special stream today where we're doing a Spaces on X,
and we're going to be talking about the Bible's influence.
It might take us just a few minutes here to get set up on our spaces,
but you can also check it out on the Baptist Bias at Rumble.
Hey, Ian, how are you doing?
Is it just me, or... I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but I don't hear anybody or anything.
Well, all right, there we go. Should have everybody on there.
I'm going to get the band pastor up here. Can I get a thumbs up from everybody?
Is the mic coming in okay?
Now it is.
All right, great, great, great, great, great.
Let's see, while we're waiting for band pastor, we'll just get some folks up here
and see how everybody's been joining in to co-host with us, which would be wonderful.
There we go, got the pastor up here.
But real quick, Silverman and Adam, since both of you guys had just requested a mic right off the bat,
just wanted to check in with you and make sure you're excited for this space here.
We're going to talk about the Bible and its implications on culture, both past and present.
So excited for that, but any questions or topics that you wanted to make sure that we dug into when we were discussing this?
Oh, I'm just here to see what band pastor has to say.
I like learning about this stuff, so I'm sure it's interesting.
I will certainly presume so, and really excited.
I mean, this individual has a huge impact, huge reach, very, very large voice in this space.
Dominic, who we usually have as a co-host, he had actually made the recommendation,
and it was one that I was really excited about.
And reason being, I first got connected to band pastor for anybody that was not in this space.
In the conversation with Dustin Nemos, who has some very controversial biblical takes,
some of them I find very interesting, especially about the Nephilim and other subjects that,
I mean, they almost read mythology, things like the Clash of the Titans,
which he actually thinks is somewhat referenced in some of these historical teachings of the Bible, or at least alluded to.
And so I find some of his takes very interesting. Band pastor had some slightly different ones.
We're not here to compare and contrast, but it was really nice to hear the two of them going back and forth,
and like we always see in these spaces, doing so in a way that was respectful of one another.
It was humble in the sense that these two individuals were saying,
here's what I think. They weren't at each other's throats,
and none of their comments were aimed at taking one another down.
And I think it's really important that we do that, especially when it comes to religion,
because this is a subject that, you know, some people have a very literal take,
others have a very, one that's a little bit more figurative,
thinking of these things as parables and myths and life lessons,
rather than as a literal teaching of events. Dustin has a different take on it,
but what I love is that in all of these spaces, everybody's able to recognize that this is a personal job,
and to not go at one another. So, really excited for BAM pastor here.
What we'll probably be doing, like we normally do,
we'll probably have about a 45 to 60 minute discussion here with pastor.
We'll let him cover some of his topics. He'll, of course, introduce himself.
At the end, like we always do, we'll open it up to a Q&A, and we'll kind of see where we land.
So, with that being said, pastor, do you want to give maybe a little bit of a summary
a self-introduction, talk a little bit about your religious heritage as an individual,
maybe your upbringing or how you got to where you are right now,
and then just a little bit about your current situation.
You're very, very highly regarded. Dominic had wonderful things to say,
so really excited to learn from here today.
Yeah, thanks so much for the introduction and having me on the show.
Can you hear me okay?
Can they hear me?
You're coming in loud and clear.
Okay, great. Just double checking.
I can hear you just fine.
Okay, great. Just to start out, I was going to say,
I'm actually streaming this on our Baptist Bias channel as well,
so if people want to check out, because I have a lot of books with me today,
and I just wanted to at least show them on the screen here and there,
but it's great to be on the Spaces. You guys are killing it,
and I really appreciate Dominic for connecting me with some of you guys
and getting an opportunity to speak in some of these Spaces.
Really, honestly, the Spaces is really hot right now, and I really love it.
And I've heard a lot of good things in some of these Spaces,
but I also hear some things that are just very clearly inaccurate
when it comes to historical fact.
And then additionally, the interpretation of those things.
I could cherry pick and point out a lot of things that I strongly disagree with,
but I do pastor a church in the Dallas-Fort Worth area,
Steadfast Baptist Church. I actually pastor another church,
Pure Words Baptist Church in Houston, Texas.
And really, I grew up Christian, grew up in the non-denominational,
charismatic movement, and it was just kind of what I knew.
And kind of becoming a young adult and actually researching the Bible
and what I believed, I ended up realizing that my church was wrong
on a lot of different things.
And so I ended up watching a lot of people online
and actually just started reading the Bible for myself
and realizing that many of the Bibles say different things.
And I ended up becoming King James only, so I only use the King James Bible
and recognizing that it's a superior translation
to all the other English translations.
And I ended up moving to Faith Word Baptist Church in 2016,
where Pastor Steven Anderson is a pastor there.
He was really popular on YouTube at one point until he got banned.
Made a lot of great documentaries, Marching to Zion,
New World of the Bible Versions, After the Tribulation.
He's done other projects as well.
And I went there, trained with him to be a pastor,
ended up starting pastoring in 2018.
And now we've had several church plants, we have church plants in Jacksonville,
we have a church plant in Oklahoma City,
and those are hopefully going to all be having their own pastors and ordained,
and I'll just be only focused here on the DFW church that I have right now.
But our church, it's a humble church, great people here,
but we've gotten a lot of attention,
and I guess in some ways I'm kind of infamous,
but a lot of times our preaching on the issue of homosexuality
has gone really viral at times.
I've never been on TikTok, but just people taking clips of my preaching
and putting it on TikTok had amassed over 2 billion views
in just a short period of time.
And we've gotten, I don't know, probably 10,000 voicemails, emails.
Our church has been protesting for three years straight.
I've been evicted, I've been sued, we've had all of our money stolen,
I've been banned on almost every single platform.
This is probably like my seventh Twitter account.
And so it's just kind of a crazy, wild ride.
But I love history, I love the Bible, we've made a couple documentaries of ourselves,
we've made the Sodomite Deception, we've made the LGBT terrorists,
and we've made the Preserve Bible film.
And the Preserve Bible film would be a great documentary
if people are interested in this subject because we talk about the Bible.
We went in great detail to explain kind of where the Bible came from,
why you use a King James Bible, and a lot of those details.
And so if someone's ignorant of the history of the Bible,
or where it came from, or why we have an English Bible,
that documentary is going to really explain in great detail with the receipts.
We had great interviews.
I highly recommend the film.
It's kind of frustrating because I can't put anything on YouTube anymore.
We uploaded the film on YouTube and it got like 50,000 views
in just like a week or two, but then they banned my account
and I can't even use YouTube, it's so funny.
Like if you just try to go to YouTube with my account,
it'll just say you're not allowed to use this app.
And so we can't do any credit card processing,
I can't use Airbnb, I can't use Facebook,
I can't use like almost any platform,
praise God for Rumble, praise God for, you know,
at least right now Twitter is allowing me to have,
you know, an account still for this moment.
Sometimes it ebbs and flows.
I know a lot of people have lost their ex-accounts
in the last few weeks and months and it's kind of crazy right now.
It's kind of crazy as far as censorship is going.
The internet has changed dramatically in the last five years
and there's a lot of bad information out there,
but I'm really excited to have this discussion.
That's kind of maybe a little bit longer intro
of who I am, where I came from,
but appreciate you bringing me in on the space
and having this discussion.
Is there something else you wanted to bring up, Ian,
before I kind of get started on maybe talking about
some of the history of the Bible?
Yeah, well real quick, one thing I would ask,
Machiavelli or Silvermane, somebody that's got a mic
are you getting kind of cut out audio from band pastor
from time to time or is that just on my end?
No, I think it's just on your end, brother,
because I'm getting in loud and clear.
Yeah, he's coming in just fine, but it could be my phone too.
No, I was just getting blips where it was just kind of
cutting out for a second or two.
So what I'll probably do, I'll just let it keep running.
Hopefully it starts to work a little bit clearer,
but I did get probably 95% of that.
I just wanted to make sure for everybody else
that was listening it wasn't a similar issue,
but I think that was a perfect intro, band.
I'm kind of curious, when it comes to your history
and some of these blips where you've been kicked off
of these platforms, do you have a sense,
before we kind of dive into some of your takes,
do you have a sense on why that might be?
Is there a common theme that you're going after
I know that, for example, to contrast,
I know that Dustin gets similarly kind of kicked off,
but he speaks very aggressively on the link
between the Nephilim and let's just say a group
that I think he believes, and I would certainly say
Dato implies, kind of has a drastic overrepresentation
and disproportionate amount of control in society.
I know that that's something that he says very boldly
and is obviously something that's a bit of a hot take.
I'm curious if there's a theme that has continuously
resulted in some of these suspensions
that you've been going into.
Is it just religion at large and these big tech players
don't like anybody discussing the Bible,
or is there some kind of other piece of it
that you're including that you think
has been kind of the hot button?
Sure, that's a great question.
The initial censorship campaign has been mostly against
the LGBTQ and what the Bible has to say about it.
In fact, right now, if you just tweet certain verses
of the Bible, you're going to get censored.
And it's really kind of two issues.
It's the one that you brought up.
If you mention what the Bible says in Revelation 2-9 or 3-9
about the Jews, then what the Bible says in that topic,
you will get a censorship strike or ban
or they'll limit your post.
Or if you quote Leviticus 20-13 from the Bible,
it'll get banned as well.
Of course, our church preaches everything in the Bible,
but these topics are brought up a lot.
In fact, I heard someone say that the Bible
might be the most anti-Semitic book in the world,
and they might be right in a sense.
Of course, it depends on how you define anti-Semitism.
But, you know, with the modern definition
of just saying anything even slightly negative
about a certain group of people
as the definition of anti-Semitism, then that's true.
Of course, the Bible is not racist.
I wouldn't say that, but just in general,
it doesn't have a positive message
about the people who crucified Jesus Christ.
And even our legislation passing laws
about accepting certain definitions of anti-Semitism
for certain government funds, I mean,
they explicitly said that just quoting sections of the Bible
or saying that the Jews killed Jesus or something
is somehow a violation of anti-Semitism.
And so, you know, the Bible is, I believe, the truth,
and the devil hates the truth and his minions,
and so when you preach on anything
that opposes a current culture,
it's gonna face opposition.
I definitely think that there's other things
that are being censored, don't hear me wrong.
There's plenty of things that are being censored,
but I believe it's all in correlation
to what the Bible just says and the gospel specifically.
And that's the scary piece, of course,
and these are things that we talk about a lot
in some of my spaces, but the parallels
between what you just described
and the Bolsheviks of yesterday who mass murdered,
you know, literally tens of millions of people
a lot of which were put into the gulags,
and a lot of that was a result of, quote, unquote,
anti-Semitism, and so if you're now saying
that religion that over a billion people on the planet,
you know, aligned to is somehow a punishable offense,
it's a pretty scary place to be in the world.
And I actually think it might be more than a billion.
What is Christianity in the global population
at this point across all of its denominations and sects?
Is a billion, am I undershooting that number?
Well, if you include Catholics, it's like two billion.
It's the largest group if you include Catholics.
If you kind of split Catholics
and maybe what people loosely call Protestants
or evangelicals, it's kind of like a billion on both sides.
So, you know, it's definitely a lot
as far as that are under that, quote, umbrella.
Of course, you know, within any religion
of that size you have.
Yeah, so you've got a quarter of the planet in there.
Yeah.
Yeah, we've got eight billion, approximately.
Two billion are some level of Christian.
And so, you know, that's about 25 percent, I agree.
You know, and of course, there's, you know,
Islam is I think about a billion.
And I think that's the second largest religion.
Actually, it might even be higher.
I might fact check that.
But Islam is definitely in second place.
And between the two, you're talking
well over a third of the global population there, right?
So pretty remarkable to think that a book
that is subscribed to or at least respected
by a third of the planet could be deemed
as somehow a punishable offense at this point.
You know, again, like I said,
it does kind of ring of yesteryear
with the Bolsheviks and some of the other places
that we've seen these types of totalitarian regimes
come in that are clearly anti-religion.
And it's probably something that we'll talk about
a little bit today because it does seem like
there's not only suppression, but there's almost
an animus towards the religious culture
that a lot of Western values have been founded on
for not just the course of the last, you know,
couple hundred years in kind of modern American West
coupled with Europe, but going back at this point
thousands of years.
So really curious for your take
and for some of your thoughts.
And maybe the best way to think this through
if we're going to talk about the Bible
and its implications on culture today is probably,
you know, how did we get where we are
and how has culture kind of influenced
the last maybe 2,000 plus years since the time of Christ?
I know that's going to be a lot to unpack,
but maybe as a quick breeze we could kind of go through
if not the entirety of the world since Christ
because maybe that's far too big of an item to chew off,
but maybe we can think of Western Europe,
you know, we did a space the other day
on Christianity and the Roman Empire
which is incredibly interesting how that played into,
and Professor Moriarty for anybody who doesn't follow him,
I'll put this up in the nest when a pastor starts to speak,
but he went through how the fall of Rome
is often aligned to the rise of Christianity
and what he actually said was no,
the rise of Christianity was a result of the fall of Rome
because people were essentially enslaved,
about 95% of Rome at the time were living in essentially
either slave-like or otherwise incredibly impoverished conditions
and out of that hopelessness and depression
came a desire for Christianity
which then started to thrive across the empire.
And so I'll be curious kind of to get your quick thoughts,
pastor, whether it's ancient Rome
or coming up through say for example the Renaissance
up to kind of European expansion in the transit-like efforts
which then led to I guess kind of the founding of the American way of life.
Is there any piece of that that you want to kind of incorporate
into this talk track when it comes to culture and cultural influences
Yeah, I would love to address all of that.
and maybe give a quick little synopsis on maybe
Tyen, you're breaking up. I think you're lagging, brother.
Can you hear me now?
Okay, I just double checked.
He kind of in broke up a little bit there at the end,
but I do want to address everything that he brought up
and I'm actually going to, I'll start at the very beginning
of what I believe and go very quickly,
but I believe that the earth was created about 6,300 years ago
and that can be evidenced from the scripture
where it brings up in Luke chapter number 3,
it brings a genealogy from Jesus Christ all the way back to Adam.
If you essentially take the dates of many of the people in the Bible
and actually give their ages and when they begat other people
and then you can correlate that with a few other timeline events in the scripture,
you can actually calculate the age of the earth pretty close
and it's about 6,300, maybe 6,300 and 8 years approximately
and really nothing in modern history or even in the secular science
has any proof or evidence that contradicts that.
Of course, the theory of evolution is going to contrast that,
but in reality, there is no scientific evidence to contradict that.
The Bible is covering all of human history.
It starts in the beginning and it carries forward to the flood,
which happened approximately, I think, 1,600 years after creation.
After the flood, you have mankind starting over again,
which is about 4,000 years, 4,800 years I believe from now
and this is where Noah gets off the ark, his sons repopulate the earth
and we have the Tower of Babel event, which is where we actually have language itself
and this is about 100 years after the ark
and this is really where even modern historians will say,
wow, there's this explosion of language and technology at this time,
about 2,500 BC to 2,700 BC and it's because of that particular event.
Then you have, of course, in the Bible it describes
the children of Israel's journey into Egypt, them coming out of Egypt,
them taking over the promised land.
Then they have the system of kings.
You have King Saul first, King David, David's kingdom.
It kind of gives rise to the kingdom of Solomon,
which was one of the most glorious kingdoms to ever exist.
A lot of knowledge, a lot of wisdom came from that.
Additionally, you have many prophets throughout this timeline
and it kind of leads us into Christ eventually.
Of course, the Jews are at one point taken to Babylonian captivity for 70 years
and they're brought back.
A lot of scripture describes them being taken to captivity and brought back
and a lot of those passages are then now misinterpreted and twisted
into kind of redefining the 1948 modern state of Israel,
but all the prophecies in the Bible were describing something that already had happened
at that time around maybe 600 BC, approximately, somewhere in that timeline.
Then, of course, there's the rebuilding of the temple,
which leads us into Daniel's 70 weeks, which is an interesting prophecy
which leads us unto Christ.
Christ comes, I believe that he was born approximately 6 to 5 BC.
There's actually an interesting study about the star of Bethlehem
and Christ was crucified on April 6th of 30 AD.
I actually, you know, the Catholics celebrate Good Friday,
but I believe if you study the Bible correctly, he actually was crucified on Thursday.
There is a Thursday on April 6th, 30 AD.
And, of course, after the death, there was the burial of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
He ascended 40 days later, approximately maybe 50 at the day of Pentecost.
And we have the disciples going out and evangelizing the world,
and specifically the Apostle Paul going out and spreading the gospel message to a pagan world,
to a Roman world, as obviously the Jews were under Roman captivity at that time.
And the Bible, even at that time, I think some people don't understand,
and I'm actually, like I said, I'm streaming on Rumble right now,
so I'm going to pull up a few things on my screen as well while I'm talking about this,
but for those of you that are just listening, I'm going to just read a few things here from a couple places of Scripture.
But the Bible actually describes in the book of Acts, chapter 15, it says,
For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
So according to the Bible and according to the Apostle Paul,
he says that in every single city, even in the Roman Empire, that the book of Moses was being read.
And this could be very easily corroborated by the fact that we have Septuagint,
and we have the Dead Sea Scrolls, and we have all these different documents that have been discovered,
where the language of the Bible had even been translated and carried forward into, yay, the whole world.
At the time of Jeremiah, the Bible describes how Jeremiah took the Word of God to the entire world.
So the world has not been ignorant of the God of the Bible.
I believe he's always been the main figure of history, and everybody knows who that is.
That doesn't mean everybody was a Christian or worshiping the God of the Bible or part of that nation,
but that nation has been well understood.
And as the Apostle Paul goes out into this Roman area,
of course the vast majority of people are not under the Jews' religion, they're pagan,
and he really turns the world upside down with the Gospel.
And, in fact, I have another book here that's interesting. It's Fox's Book of Martyrs.
And I highly recommend it if someone's just interested in learning about history,
but this book literally starts with the apostles, Peter and Matthew and Paul and all of them,
and describes how they were all martyred for the cause of Christ.
And then it talks about all the Roman emperors.
When we talk about Nero as kind of like an initial persecuting figure of Christianity,
it talks about the second under Domation, then Trajan, and it kind of goes through the history.
It talks about all kinds of different Christian martyrs throughout human history.
And it really wasn't until Constantine has this supposed vision where he sees like a cross
and basically doesn't make Christianity illegal. This is around the 300 AD period of time.
But the Bible had already been disseminated throughout the entire world at this point.
In the 500 AD, you had about 500 translations of the Bible in different languages.
And so the Bible has just been spread everywhere.
But because of the ecumenical councils of Constantine and the Roman Catholic Church kind of being formed in that period of time,
the Catholic Church starts to gain a lot of power, especially in Western the world.
And, of course, the Catholic Church seizes a lot of the control and power politically
through these efforts as well.
I kind of want to push back on something. You said something about how the Roman Empire fell due to Christianity.
I don't have that perspective at all.
I believe that the Roman Empire fell due to internal corruption and being very evil when they were being judged.
If you kind of understand, the Caesars had gotten so bad. They were all open pedophiles.
It's hard to even describe the acts that they were doing, but they had little children that were their subjects
that they would molest and do all kinds of horrible things and it was just open.
They were very degenerate, very corrupt.
And it had gotten so bad that the, for lack of better terminology,
but the secret police or the people that guard the guard of the Caesars would literally just kill Caesars, take bribes.
They would joke about replacing Caesars.
And because they had such a vast geographic expansion,
they really just fell due to ineptness, corruptness.
The barbarians of those times were able to invade certain areas.
And it's kind of like mass migration in all of these areas due to corruption.
And the military is really frustrated with the empire.
And so there's just due to ineptness and corruptness, allowing mass migration,
barbarians are able to take certain parts of the city and eventually just roam, just falls to its own inherent corruption.
This is every major civilization throughout history, whether you look at the Mayans, Aztecs,
you actually see a really kind of a major escalation in technology and decadence for a civilization.
And then once it reaches kind of a pink, it has a sudden decline and sudden collapse.
And this is just God's judgment.
And real quick, Ben, on that, I'm just kind of curious, God's judgment is maybe a great way to lead into this question.
Professor Moriarty, one of the things that he was saying was that the Christian growth was taking place amongst the impoverished, right?
It was the slave class and those that were, you know, really, really just down on their luck, for lack of a better term.
Whereas the reason that they took to Christianity was because, according again to my memory anyway, from the chat with Moriarty,
he was saying that the pagan religion and pagan gods were the gods of the elites who had essentially all of the, all of the riches and all of the spoils of the empire.
Is that safe as kind of a general observation?
If so, how curious that those pagan worshiping elites were participating in all these horrific acts,
which actually kind of rings true all the way to the present day with some of the things taking place on Epstein Island and all the other insanity of the world.
So is that kind of a reasonable summarization of kind of the elites versus the plebes scenario where you had paganism versus Christianity and it was the pagan rich versus the Christian poor?
I mean, is that kind of a too gross of a summary or is that pretty much somewhat accurate?
I would say a lot of those things are accurate.
I think it would be unknowable to know what the percentages are of the peasantry as far as their acceptance of paganism versus Christianity.
But generally, according to the Bible, the poor are receptive to Christianity and the Bible, generally speaking, and the rich are not.
And that is evidenced by anecdotal evidence, historical evidence. I mean, it's pretty much a pretty clear representation.
I mean, the Bible says that we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against spiritual wickedness in high places, against principalities and powers.
And the Bible describes that essentially, almost throughout all of human history, the upper elite and ruling class is almost all infiltrated by evil, wicked, satanic, God-hating reprobates.
And that we're constantly fighting against arguably spiritual wickedness in high places, as the Bible describes it.
I don't think there's really much exceptions to this. I think there's been some figures throughout history that were actually a good leader and they maybe had some good Christian influence.
But for the vast majority of ruling class today and throughout most of history, this has always been the case.
And even every institution, whether you look at the Catholic Church, the Greek Orthodox Church, Islam, I don't care what religion.
At the top, it's usually just very extremely corrupt. These people are following the devil.
And so I think that it's definitely true that in Rome, Christianity was spreading.
And not even necessarily true Christianity, but obviously sex of Christianity in all kinds of forms, and the Catholic Church is kind of dominating.
But I have 500 AD, the Catholic Church is a stranglehold on the religious and political system.
And you kind of enter into what's called the Dark Ages.
The Dark Ages is a time when the Catholic Church is not allowing everyday citizens to read the Bible.
And in fact, because it's in Latin, and a lot of people don't always speak Latin or aren't very educated, the Bible is kind of kept from your average day citizen.
Of course, they don't have printing passes yet. They don't have the ability to mass print Bibles either.
So just information in general was very low. Literacy was very low. Access to the Bible was very difficult to acquire.
And in fact, the Catholic Church had strict laws prohibiting people from owning Bibles, reading Bibles, teaching Bibles.
You had to be basically part of the Church and a bishop in order to have this access.
And so there's always this underground effort of true Christianity to spread that message, give that to people.
Of course, the Catholic Church had slaughtered many different individuals throughout history, heretics and people that opposed the Catholic Church, because it wasn't just a religion, it was a political system.
And this led us into some crazy things that happened throughout history as far as the West is concerned.
But even, you know, not just the West, I mean the Mongolian Empire was greatly impacted by Christianity, and Christianity spread throughout the Mongolian Empire.
So you have Christianity going in lots of different places, even while the West is kind of our central place where we think about from a historical perspective.
As we kind of journey past the Dark Ages a little bit, and we're kind of getting out of it, what's interesting is that around the 1300s, you have a lot of things happening.
People are kind of pushing back on access to the Bible. The kingdom's Bible is in the 1611, and that's what we use today, but the first English Bibles were actually much earlier than this.
And one of the first major translations of the Bible, the first English translation, of course there was like a few chapters or a book here and there translated, but the whole Bible is John Wycliffe.
This is 1382, and John Wycliffe is a Catholic priest, but he's kind of against the Catholic Church, and he opposes the Catholic Church.
He doesn't want them to restrict access to the Bible to people. He wants everybody to know the Bible because he says, until people understand what the Bible says, I can't educate them about any subject.
It's like the first subject that people have to even learn to be able to educate on anything.
And he translates the Bible, the Catholic Church opposes him, persecutes him greatly, he dies a natural death, but then they dig up his bones, throw him in the river, and say that he's burning in hell, and they basically attack him.
But what's also interesting is, I have another book with me, it's called Behind Communism, and in this book, in the 14th page, it describes how a Renaissance took place in Europe from the 1300s to the 1650.
And it also marks how, throughout this time period, Jews were actually being evicted and legally banned from entering a lot of Europe and being part of European areas.
So you kind of have two major things. You have Jews being restricted from entering all of these parts of Europe, laws against them, and you have the Bible being read by the common people and being spread everywhere.
And you just have a huge renaissance of information, creativity, just anything and everything that we kind of glorify from the past.
A lot of it's coming from the Renaissance era, and it's because of the Bible, it's because of knowledge actually expanding during this period of time.
The English Bible is then translated from other works. There's a guy named Erasmus who recognized that the Catholic Church kind of corrupted the Latin Bible, and so he wanted to go back to the Hebrew and the Greek and create kind of a text based on this.
He creates a Greek New Testament and compiles it together based on Greek manuscripts that he's collected from the collapse of the Byzantine Empire.
Based on his work, we basically have all the Bibles that we have today, whether that be the Luther translation that he made into German, we have the English Bibles, we have the Spanish Bibles, we have the French Bibles.
And people are very ignorant on this subject, but I encourage you to visit a Bible museum. There's ones in Washington, D.C., there's one in Houston, there are Bible museums everywhere.
And here's the thing. We have copies of these Bibles in every language from every century. I mean, what do you talk about? 1100, 1200, 1300. I mean, you want to talk about the 1400, 1500, 1600.
I mean, there's Bibles in all these languages, and we recognize that, hey, if they're all saying the same thing in one language and this other language is not, then there's an error here, there's an issue.
And that's where the Latin is kind of at fault, right? And so we look at the Greek, we look at the other Bibles in other languages, and we're recognizing there's a problem here.
We're going back to the source, and there was a movement to correct the Bible in English based on what's called the Texas Receptus.
And this is where we get the famous Tyndale Bible, which was translated by William Tyndale. And he's a great person to study. He's in Fox's Book of Martyrs, he's in our film, we highlighted him.
But this man's brilliant. His work was 85% exactly verbatim what the King James Bible is today, persecuted by the Catholic Church on the run.
And in fact, the King of England also persecuted him. He ended up dying a martyr's death, his throat was slit, he was burned at the stake, and in his dying breath, he said, open the eyes of the king.
And the goal was that the King of England would grant for the Bible to actually go out to the common people and to be worked on.
And so you have people coming in his footsteps, you have the great Bible, the Matthew Bible, you have the Geneva, and you have the bishops, but none of them were dialed in perfectly.
And when King James came to the throne, he recognized that there was a division between the Anglican Church and the Puritans.
And both of them are coming from a quote Protestant direction, but the Protestant Reformation is kind of mixed with people who want to quote reform the Catholic Church and people who reject the Catholic Church.
Say the Catholic Church is just a horrible institution that's completely wicked and there's no redeeming it.
And then you kind of have a group that's saying, no, it's decent, but it's got a lot of huge problems because they're selling indulgences, so let's go ahead and reform it.
And so you have a lot of people focused on the reformers, but you also have Puritans and people that were completely opposed to the Catholic Church.
These two people were in England, diametrically opposed to one another, and having a lot of issues, and they felt like if we translated the Bible one more time and get it dialed in, we can kind of unify the nation with the Puritans, with the Anglicans.
And that was the goal. That was the goal of the King James Bible, was to get an accurate translation and it would be the final work.
In fact, if you even read the Translators of the Reader and the Preface of the King James Bible, they literally said that they wanted to make one more exact translation of the Holy Scriptures into the English tongue.
That is the direct quote. And this is the definitive work. The King James Bible was the accurate, preserved translation of the Bible into English, and it's been the most influential book.
The King James Bible is the most influential book of all time. Most read book, most published book, most studied book. Even today, it's still the most influential book.
Most of our English language is being driven by this. In fact, it was so popular and so good, all the other English Bibles went out of print, and eventually it just became the book.
If you study history, many people just literally call the Bible just the book. It was that famous, it was that well-known, it was that understood.
And, you know, from the Protestant Reformation, you still have persecution of Christianity from the Anglican Church and the Catholic Church, and this is where a lot of people fled to America.
Of course, people are fleeing to America for multiple reasons to not only have religious liberty, but also have maybe a new life, new prosperity.
But most of the desire to come to America was for religious freedom from these institutions, and they bring a Geneva Bible with them, and then shortly after the King James comes and replaces it.
The Geneva and the King James are very similar texts, and the reality is that our nation was founded on the Bible.
I have a document with me, it's called The Laws of Connecticut, an exact reprint of the original edition of 1673, and this document is so fascinating.
And this is something that usually gets me in trouble with people, and I'm not going to necessarily read all of it, but if you read their capital laws and you just look at it, it's literally just pulling out all of the capital laws from the Bible and just putting them in print.
And not only that, in the literal margin it literally has all the Bible references to all of the laws.
In fact, in this particular document, they even explicitly identify certain Christians as heretics, the Quakers and the Shakers.
This is what you would think of today as modern Pentecostals that are going around, like Benny Hinn and Kenneth Copeland, people barking like a dog and going, woo, or whatever.
And really, even back then, these people were identified as heretics, and you were actually fined if you gave them any money or you were nice to them, according to Connecticut law.
But these states of the colonies, these colonies eventually become states, but their laws are literally just coming from the Bible.
And even if we go into 1776, with the Constitution being signed, then a few years later ratified by all 13 colonies, the state laws at that time were religious in nature.
And the state of Pennsylvania literally has a statute that says if you don't profess faith in Jesus Christ, you cannot hold any political or governmental office position.
So you couldn't be the sheriff, you couldn't be the police, you couldn't have no position in government. The same is for Rhode Island. Rhode Island had the exact same statute.
The state of Georgia explicitly said that you could not be Catholic. It was illegal to be Catholic, and no Catholic church was formed in the state of Georgia until the late 1800s.
And it was really, what's interesting about that whole subject is that the context of Christianity was so well-defined in the culture of America that they never really thought to talk about other religions.
So it's funny, they outlaw Catholicism and heretics like Quakers and stuff, but they never addressed other religions, and specifically like Jews.
And so because they'd never pinned down anything about Jews, like Jews actually infiltrated Georgia and then eventually allowed the government to kind of change its laws to bring in Catholicism and bring in other religions and kind of change the whole culture.
Because a lot of the South is very Baptist in nature. It's kind of like Baptist versus Protestants in the history of America, and the Baptist kind of won, at least initially.
And so you have eventually, though, the Fourteenth Amendment. The Fourteenth Amendment comes into play.
Wait, and Band, real quick, before we get to the Fourteenth Amendment, I just want to, what you said just kind of blew my mind, because I've often found myself having disagreements with people saying, you know, this is a Christian nation, it was founded on Christian principles.
People push back very, very heavily on that. But what you're saying is that literally at some of the state levels in their founding documents with their laws, they were more or less just copy-pasting them from the Bible itself.
And that in many states, it was prohibited to have any kind of state official position if you did not profess your belief, not just in a God, but in particular in Jesus Christ, and then only as a result of the fact that these states did not reject all religions, including Jews.
Did Jews ultimately get into positions of power where they were able to rewrite those religious laws and to kind of remove them from the requirements to hold positions? Is that a fair summarization of what you just said there? Because if so, that's pretty wild.
Yes, because here's the thing. I actually went to the University of Texas, and I was just doing kind of like a Steven Crowder bit of like a prove me wrong, change my mind thing. And I talked to a lot of students there, and they're sincerely arguing with me and telling me that our nation's a secular nation built on secular principles.
And I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Just the gaslighting of American history is so bad that it actually motivated me to... I'm making a documentary about this. It's called One Nation Under God. And we're doing the interviews for the film already.
But I'm gonna prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that that's just the most fallacious lie. And it's crazy, the gaslighting that we have in institutions today, even some of the most prestigious institutions, the University of Texas, these students are so gullible and ignorant of history that they can't recognize this.
There's no way to ignore the reality that our nation was 100% Christian, founded on Christian principles. The 14th Amendment explicitly is to de-Christianize the nation in a sense. And even today in the state of Texas, this is as funny as I brought up to this young man, I said, look, in the state of Texas right now in 2024, just read the opening line of the Texas State Constitution.
It says in the Texas State Constitution opening line, humbly invoking the blessing of Almighty God. How is that the opening line of the Texas State Constitution? And then you're gonna argue with me that we're a secular nation.
And this is a young man who's a Hindu from India. Of course, I don't necessarily expect him to have been raised here in understanding American heritage. But he's being lied to in such an extreme way at these universities that people are literally not understanding why America is the way that it is.
When the liberals and the Democrats say, we're not going back. You know what they're saying? We're not going back to the Bible. We're not going back to Christian heritage. That's what they're really saying. And that's what America is.
You look at all of the state legislation, you look at all state laws. It's only understood by the Bible. The Bible was a document used in the court of law as reference. The Supreme Court is quoting inciting the Bible as the authority for our laws.
There's no way to misunderstand this if anybody even takes five seconds to study history. Even the left knows this because I've seen plenty of articles where they literally say, yeah, the death penalty was applied to homosexuality for the 1600s, 1700s, 1800s in America.
And it wasn't until the late 1800s that it slowly turned into prosecution by life imprisonment or a long prison sentence. And then this is what's crazy and blew a lot of people's minds. But until 2003, homosexuality was a crime in the state of Texas.
I don't think that people realize this, but until Lawrence versus Texas, the Supreme Court case, and it was about 14 other states approximately that also had similar laws that all were overturned with this particular legislation. But until 2003, homosexuality was a crime in the state of Texas.
And just to think about how in 2003 it was a crime, and then only like maybe a decade or shortly thereafter, places like Arlington, Texas, and I live in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, Arlington's in our area, you have literal police officers being assigned that are called the LGBT liaison officer.
And so we've had a rapid denigration of society, a rapid change, and a huge gaslighting of where our nation was, what it's come to be. I mean, the 1960s, I think people don't understand, I want to go back to my timeline in a minute, but the 1960s, America was 90% white and 10% black.
And the nation was a Christian nation. There's no way to change that fact of history. And slowly, over about the next 40 years or so, we have migration efforts to really undermine that. And then in the last 20 years, we've had a mass migration that has really drastically changed this.
But think like we're a 90% white Christian country. And even when I was in college, which wasn't that long ago, but this is about 2006, in a political science class, I remember our professor said, if you're not a professing Christian and white and evangelical, and you have this much money, you'll never be elected president, which of course, Barack Obama destroyed that narrative.
But that's how ingrained our country was. And he didn't believe it, but he didn't understand the mass migration efforts that were going to happen. And I guess how so many elections, their integrity is not necessarily what we believe it is today.
But of course, that was a true statement. If we have free and fair elections and election integrity is upheld, that would have been the case that would have never changed.
But I believe America is being punished generally for having turned away from God, turned away from the Bible. But to kind of go back to the narrative, I mean, Christian laws slowly deteriorated over time.
By the 1800s, a lot of laws had slowly changed and adapted. The 14th Amendment really had a big impact because it specifically expressed that the limits of the federal government were now imposed on the state.
And this is really difficult for people to understand. But the First Amendment was originally pinned only in the context of the federal government. I mean, if you just look at the opening line, it says Congress shall make no law.
It has nothing to do with states, has nothing to do with individuals, has nothing to do with social media platforms. It was simply, if you think about the context, the colonies by themselves are too small and too in their early parts of development to fight the Kingdom of England by themselves.
They needed to form an alliance and form a union and form a coalition. That's why you have the United States of America to fight off the British. And so they join forces, they unite.
But they want to be careful in this uniting and recognize, like, we need to join together for military purposes. But that's all we want. We want a strong state government. We want a limited federal government.
We don't want the federal government telling us to do because that's what we're fleeing. We're fleeing the monarchy. We're fleeing this centralized control of power where you have a small group of people or one person deciding the fate of everybody.
We want the states and where the local people live to decide these things. And so they put all these restrictions on the federal government. And it was only the federal government that could make no law concerning religious affairs and these type of things.
And it wasn't until the 14th Amendment that that applied to the states. That's why you literally see state laws mandating faith in Jesus Christ to hold any political office. That's why you see states mandating all kinds of overtly religious laws.
I would argue that every law is religious by nature because we're talking about morality, which is based on your belief system. And your belief system has to come from somewhere.
As early settlers of America recognized, we're not smart enough to come up with the best moral laws. We're going to go back to the great lawgiver Jehovah, which is a direct quote from them, and we're going to implement what God's system was.
And you know what? That was a success. Whether you like the Bible, whether you believe the Bible, you have to recognize that America was founded on biblical principles and founded on the system of the judges, which is detailed explicitly in the Old Testament.
And based on that system, we have the success of America and the blessing of America because it's modeled after the best potential civil government.
UK and Europe had corrupted themselves deeply. They were not following the Bible's instructions. They were not doing what it says. It was not a system of government based on the scripture or on the Bible.
It was a state-run church. The Bible does not want a state-run church. But at the same time, it makes sense that our founders should have said, you know what? All of these documents that were outlining the Constitution, they're all in the context of Christianity.
I wish they had just pinned that down. And it was just the culture was so Christian that they could never perceive like Jews and Hindus and atheists and Muslims coming and taking over.
They were like, of course that's not going to happen. They were so focused in on the details of specific types of Christians and Catholics that they weren't really thinking about some of the broader perspectives.
Now some of them did understand that atheism was a problem even at that time. And they have several quotes of saying that we want to make sure that all these religious liberties are not to allow atheism to creep into our nation and into our country.
So they very well understood that potential threat. But our country and our nation was Christian. The 14th Amendment applies to the states eventually. States now can no longer mandate some of the Christian laws.
And so we just keep stacking amendments. And it's like, okay, 19th Amendment brings in feminism, which is a Marxist ideology. And that particular ideology undermines civilization.
And here's the problem. When you have a strong Christian nation and people are reading the Bible, they're going to be very anti people who worship the religion of Judaism.
And I want to be careful about my terminology. It's not about an ethnicity. It's not about a group of people based on their genetic lineage, but it's based on a group of people of their beliefs.
And the beliefs of Talmudic Judaism is an anti-Christ religion that practices usury, which is extremely dangerous to any society and civilization.
And usury means interest, the collection of interest. And again, also that these individuals are going to exercise no morality in an effort to acquire more fame and wealth and power.
And that is the religion of Judaism. It's a religion that says whatever you can do to acquire more wealth and power is acceptable.
And so that's why there is the JQ. That's why there is this problem where there's a certain group of people that have an inordinate amount of control and influence in the world.
Because they practice a religion that says, I'm capable of murdering, killing, stealing, deceiving, lying, doing anything in my power and ability to gain more power and wealth.
And that religion is opposed to Christianity because Christianity says, no, you can't lie, steal, cheat, commit murder, abort babies. You can't drink the blood of circumcised babies.
You can't do all of these crazy, weird things. And they kept them at bay. They pushed them off. And when Christianity declines, well, that religion thrives.
And so these are kind of a yin and yang. There are forces that are constantly at war with one another.
And America has been greatly subverted by these people because Christianity has fallen in a lot of ways.
A lot of false prophets, a lot of false teachers, people have gotten away from the King James Bible.
Now we have a litany of translations of the Bible that say all contradictory things. They really teach a lot of heresy.
And we see the fruit of modern Bibles has corrupted our society. Modern Bibles came into the 1960s. The 1960s ruined America.
I mean, it's the baby boomer generation. They bring in...they change the demographics of the country, they change the religion of the country, they change the Bible of the country, they change the laws of the country.
It was a hippie, free love sex movement. And the degeneracy follows the World War II, which that narrative is important.
I mean, World War I, World War II, these are very important events. The Federal Reserve being established. These are very important events.
The degeneracy of America is why we are in the situation we are in today. And people act like the problems of our country in the past are Christianity.
But that was the reason why we had the blessing. That was the reason why we had prosperity and freedom.
And I don't care what nation or country you look at in the world today, the places that have the greatest individual freedom and individual prosperity are where Christianity is the strongest.
And where Christianity is outlawed and is attacked the most, you have the least amount of individual freedom and individual prosperity.
Because the Bible is clear. Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. That's a direct quote. The Bible says, you should know the truth and the truth shall make you free.
And the Bible is the ultimate truth. It used to be the textbook of our public education system. It used to be the only authority when it comes to the court system.
If you had a law and it contradicted the Bible, the Bible could overrule many statutes.
And it was the Bible that granted us the power and the authority to have set up government and to set up this country and to set up this nation.
And it was designed to be a nation under God. And that is our heritage. That is our lineage.
And the Bible influenced everything, whether it be language, you know, it's the first book being printed on the printing press by and large because people want access to the Word of God.
They want the Bible. And the Bible also, I mean, I pulled up, it's kind of an interesting article, but 11 common phrases you didn't realize came from the Bible.
And you know, one of them is by the skin of your teeth, like escaping by the skin of your teeth. A house divided against itself cannot stand.
A drop in a bucket. Behemoth. Scapegoat. Gird up your loins. That's like pull up your pants. Bite the dust. The letter of the law. The salt of the earth.
I mean, so much of our just language, phrases, everything we understand is coming from the Bible. The Bible is the source of all truth.
And it really has stood the test of time. The King James Bible hasn't been altered for 400 years.
And you know, I think that that's what changes people's lives, is the King James Bible. If we want to change America, we have to get people back to the book.
And as Ronald Reagan had even famously said about the King James Bible, he was contrasting with other modern Bible versions, and he said that the pious drudges would constantly seek to find the Bible, not realizing that it had already been gotten right.
And it's a famous line of his that it's already been gotten right. And instead of arguing about what the Bible really, you know, which version and all this stuff, it's like it's already been settled.
People need to get back to the King James Bible. That's what built this nation. And you know, it's funny to me to watch all these leftists and liberals and secular people say that they love America so much, and they hate Christianity.
And it's like, the reason why you love America is because of Christianity. And the things that we all hate about America is because we've abandoned Christianity and abandoned the Bible.
And so, you know, it's really the source of history. You can't understand history without understanding the Bible and Christianity. You can't understand language. You can't understand the political motivations. You can't understand war.
All the wars are related to these topics specifically. You can't understand the JQ without the Bible. You can't understand any of these things. It really is the source of all information.
And so, you know, I obviously love the Bible. I'm a preacher of the Bible. I'm a Baptist pastor. And I didn't start out a Baptist pastor, but I'm going to die a Baptist pastor.
Well, not necessarily a pastor, but a Baptist, because they're the ones that are closest to the truth on this issue. And honestly, when you read the Bible, it explains every phenomenon that we see in the world today.
And it explains it in great detail. And I think that people just don't know what the Bible says. And it's a travesty. I hope that was kind of a brief summary.
I want to look at my notes, because I actually made a few notes about some things I wanted to bring up. I just want to make sure.
Yep, it's got the most manuscripts of antiquity. Also, if you look historically, you know, when we talk about history, history is a difficult thing to understand.
The best thing to look at is primary sources. And if we were to look at primary sources, the most primary sources we have are old manuscripts of the Bible.
Additionally, you know, some people get mad about the idea of Christian nationalism, but they're enjoying the benefits of a nation that was Christian.
And I do not believe and I do not want America to go back to England and create a state church. I believe in religious liberty.
But at the same time, we need to define that all of our laws and our Constitution was pinned with the Bible in mind.
In fact, I'll say this. America is not broken based on its political system. Its political system is correct. It's the people running it.
You know, the system of judges that we have, if we would limit the federal government again and go back to giving the states the power and county judges
and our local judges having that power and influence that they should have had, if we take the power away from the federal government and, you know, enforce the laws that we have in the land
and go back to the lands that we had, you know, repeal the 19th Amendment, repeal the 14th Amendment, in my opinion, but get rid of these, you know, add-ons, tack-ons, we would be great. We would be fine.
The problem is that it's not a law issue. It's a culture issue because the vast majority of people do not want the Bible and do not want Christianity.
It's going to be almost impossible to roll back the clock and get back there without first having a great awakening and a revival of Christianity.
We need the poor to accept the gospel again. And maybe that's what America needs is, you know, America is a rich nation. The vast majority of us are living high on the hog.
Most Americans today are living like kings from a historical context. We eat whatever we want. We can go to the grocery store. We can have unlimited food, bread.
We have so many modern conveniences. And so because we live such a life of delicacy, we're not that interested in the things of God and Christianity.
I travel a lot of places in the world. I've gone to Mexico, Philippines, Bahamas, Jamaica. I've gone to a lot of different areas.
I've talked to a lot of people from all over the world. And, you know, the rest of the world's very receptive to the gospel because they're poor.
And unfortunately, America is very rich and decadent. And, you know, we're probably facing an inevitable collapse unless we have a revival.
And so, you know, it's a really important topic to me. The Bible's influence on modern culture, it's the most important influence.
And it's the only thing that will bring us out of the crisis that we're headed for.
Well, and what's wild about that is it mirrors what Professor Moriarty was saying about Rome, right, to go back to the beginning of this timeline in some ways.
And that he was saying it was that desperation that led individuals back to, or to initially, to the word of Christ and of God.
And I think you're exactly right, especially when you think of all of the modern blessings of the West.
And what you said earlier about all of the good things of the Western way of life are out of the Bible and all the bad are because of an aversion to it.
I thought that was incredibly insightful. And it's the things that are drawing mass migration into the West, for example.
And, you know, I don't know the religious ideologies of some of those individuals. Certainly, I think whether it's one and the same or not, I think it doesn't matter.
Because if you break down, and maybe this is a strange pivot, but, you know, I've always thought of the Western world, both Europe and America.
A lot of these nations are, because when it comes to migration, anyway, if you think of all of the great nations of being these wonderful vessels out in a very crowded ocean, right?
And you've got America, which is maybe this great ocean liner, and then you've got some Central and South American countries around it that are, let's be real, they're a little bit more rickety of crafts, right?
But if you have massive amounts of the people that are on some of those other boats jumping into the water, swimming over to the great ocean liner and climbing onto it, it seems nice for the people in the ocean liner to say, yeah, let's continue picking up people.
That's a good moral nice thing to do. But eventually, what happens is you get to a capacity and the once great ocean liner begins to sink.
And now what do you have? Well, you've got an overflowed now flooding ocean liner surrounded by some other boats that are rickety and terrible.
And long story short, instead of a rising tide raises everybody, it's a sinking ocean liner ruins any prosperity for everyone.
Right. And so it's interesting because I think that, you know, for people, a lot of people take this stance that letting in endless migrants is the moral righteous thing to do when in reality, I think all it's doing is bringing down ultimately the mid to long run standard of living for everyone.
Because instead of exporting excellence, what you're doing is importing poverty. And instead of building up those foreign nations, you're driving down America.
And if you look at things like the Communist Manifesto, Marx and Engels were very clear that the way they needed to construct the world for communism at both a national or theoretically a global level was to have an equivalent standard of living for everyone.
And to quote Margaret Thatcher, you know, loosely anyway, her quote was basically rather than trying to make the poor richer, you just want to make the rich poorer until everyone's the same.
And it seems like the elites of the world today, that's where they're going. And I think you're exactly right that a lot of people are maybe complacent because they've got Netflix, beer, the NFL and some Hollywood movies to laugh and get excited about the Internet.
And because of those luxuries, everybody thinks everything's fine when in reality, standard of living, access to healthy foods, access to valuable education, those things are becoming increasingly out of reach for the masses.
And instead, you get indoctrinated education via like Google School and Netflix, which is at the end of the day, all propaganda that largely runs against Christianity and the Word of God.
You know, I want to I want to use your analogy a little bit and kind of expand on it, because I think it's more like a rowboat. Imagine America is like a rowboat, and it has unlimited seats.
And there's no problem with adding someone to the rowboat if they're going to row in the same direction that you're headed. The problem is when you add people into the rowboat that are going to start paddling in a completely different direction.
And, you know, migration and immigration, these things can have their place. And there's nothing wrong with the Christian nation bringing in migrants from all over the world.
But but here's what people don't understand. The Bible pre teaches that a house divided cannot stand when a nation does not have ideological continuity, it becomes weaker.
Now, it does not matter demographically, like it's not about skin color, height, any of those things that you know, that has no impact on a nation. What impacts the nation is ideological continuity.
And just to be frank, the world was geographically geographically dispersed to where, when someone had a different skin color, they typically had a different ideology, like it's almost a one for one.
So when you're importing all of these people into America, the problem is not the skin color you're importing, the problem is the ideology that's coming with them.
And if if we had a Christian country that was based on Christian laws, there'd be nothing wrong with bringing in the the occasional migrants that want to convert or basically adopt the Christian way of life.
The problem is when you're bringing in people that are diametrically opposed to this, and have completely different world, you can't bring in Hinduism to Christian nation, you can't bring in Judaism to a Christian nation, you can't bring in even Catholicism, like these things.
And again, I'm not against Catholic people. I love Catholics, I have a lot of friends that are Catholics, I'm saying that the state run Catholic Church is is satanic and opposed to the Bible.
And you can't bring these things in. And America knew that initially. And that's why it was so strong, because America was literally built by migrants and immigrants.
And I think this is where the bastardization of our history gets confusing, because people say like, Oh, we built on immigrants, and we're built on people fleeing here.
Yeah, but they were fleeing here because they wanted to be a Christian. They're fleeing here because they love the Bible, they're fleeing here because they wanted to live in an area where they actually were ruled by the Bible and ruled by the law of the scripture.
And not by the Catholic Church, not by Hinduism, not by Judaism. And so, you know, bringing in people to have the same ideology can strengthen a nation.
Bringing in people that don't, it weakens the nation. And that is why it's so important to bring in mass migrants into Europe and to America.
Because Europe, I mean, let's take UK for a second. UK has 67 million people approximately. 50 million of them are still white. Okay.
If they have enough time, they will eventually get enough ideological continuity. And they'll say, Hey, let's let's examine World War Two again and Winston Churchill and all these things that happen.
And they might say like, Why are we giving so much money to the Middle East again? Like, why are we doing all these things?
And so when you have a lot of people all coming together and having the same ideological belief system, then they start becoming a force to reckon with.
But if you just pour in a bunch of Muslims that destroy the culture and destroy that environment, now they're dealing with that problem.
And then they're too busy dealing with that issue to think about anything else, because you literally have just degeneracy and filth and rape and pillaging just on your doorstep.
And even in America, we're importing the third world and bringing in all these degenerates in the last four years.
It's designed to just simply weaken America, weaken Christianity, and to make sure that they don't start asking the wrong questions.
I'm just being honest with you and to bring in a pretext to do all kinds of different things. I mean, there's a lot of things that you can do with migrants.
You could change the voting in America once they change the political system on paper, then we can bring in communism officially.
Right now, we're pretty communist already, but it's not quite as official as they want it.
And with the migrants, you could potentially arm them and create a migrant army that's not going to be loyal to the Constitution, not be loyal to American freedoms, not have a Christian viewpoint or worldview, and would potentially go house to house and doing unimaginable things.
That's necessary, because right now the American military probably by and large still would not violate the Constitution if given orders.
But if you bring in a bunch of the third world and hand them a gun, you don't know what could happen.
We don't know what their willpower would be accomplished as.
And so all of these things are important, and I like to talk about them, and I'm interested in them.
But the real goal is that the devil wants to distract everybody from the gospel, getting saved, believing in Jesus Christ.
The Bible makes it clear salvation is a free gift. It's just by faith in Jesus Christ.
And of course, that's the ultimate truth, the ultimate red pill, and that's what will actually give you the ability to understand on a higher level, because you have the Holy Spirit come inside of you and He guides you in all truth.
And so the reality is that we need to get that message out, the gospel message, to get people saved and become a Christian.
And that's when they'll be enlightened, truly, to have another Renaissance.
I don't know what's going to happen. I think it's likely we could go into the end times as the Bible describes.
But at the same time, the solution is always to get people to become Christian and get back into the Bible.
That's why UK was the world power. Why Christianity and the King James Bible?
Then, of course, that shifts to America. Why the King James Bible and the Word of God?
It's not a coincidence America is a superpower. I mean, think about it. Why is it—I mean, we were having to start over a few hundred years ago.
Why isn't it that China and all these other nations that had so much more time, resources, and people on their side—
Why did we beat China? Why did we get so far ahead of Russia? Why did we get so far ahead of all these places?
And look, Russia was Christian, but they were Greek Orthodox. And that is not Protestant Christianity.
That is not evangelical Christianity. And, you know, of course, the Bolshevik Revolution was a horrible atrocity.
Super evil. It's something we all need to learn and read about.
But I believe that it's arguably in some ways God punishing them for having a false version of Christianity,
because the Greek Orthodox Church just also does not believe the Bible.
And I'm sure there's a lot of innocent people slaughtered—I mean, millions and millions of people slaughtered by the Bolsheviks.
But, you know, if America decides to continue to reject the Bible and promote this false version of Christianity
that we have with people like Kenneth Copeland and T.D. Jakes and Joel Osteen and all the degeneracy.
I mean, we have literal open LGBTQ pastors and preachers and all this crazy stuff that's happening in our churches today.
If we just allow that to continue, then God may allow us to go through a Bolshevik Revolution as well, which I want to avoid.
I mean, probably the most important book that's not the Bible, I think everyone should read.
It's called The Bridge at Andau by James Missioner, and it's about the Hungarian Revolution.
Please read this book. It's so important to understanding communism and what it's really like
and what the Hungarians had to go through under the communists of Russia,
which it's so funny to me that Russia was the good guy in World War II.
I mean, it's like Russia just went through the Bolshevik Revolution where they slaughtered millions of their own people.
Then, immediately after World War II, they slaughtered just like 10 to 12 million Germans, innocent Germans.
And then they take over all of Eastern Europe and just horrible communist rule of Hungary and all kinds of other parts of Eastern Europe.
It was literally called the Iron Curtain, and we didn't know what was going on.
As Americans, we could only speculate about the atrocities, and people like brave men, like this reporter and historian, James Missioner,
went there, stood on the Austrian border, and interviewed countless Hungarians as they crossed the bridge at Andau,
and he described them in this book. Amazing, amazing book. I highly recommend everyone read it.
And of course, if you really want to understand why all these things happened, another one I recommend is The Protocols of the Learned Others of Zion.
I have a printed copy. You can find it sometimes online. It's very difficult to find. It's even difficult to find a printed copy.
But this will explain to you why we have a certain presidential cabinet that we do, why there's a certain group of people that control the media,
why there's a certain group of people that control the banks, why the French Revolution happened, why we have the Bolshevik Revolution,
why we have World War I, why we have World War II, why we have the modern state of Israel today.
All of these things are connected, and it's all connected to the Bible, because the Bible is the truth,
and that's just the reality of the world that we live in. Secularism and atheism is a distraction.
I want to see if I can find a quote from The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, because I think it's a really important quote,
and I'm actually working on another film for that. It's going to be later.
But I'm really excited about Stu Peter's documentary on Occupy, because it looks so good.
I don't think I'll be able to make a documentary as good as that, but mine is going to focus on The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, this particular document.
One quote from protocol number four, it says this, it says,
We shall destroy God. That is the title of protocol number four.
And it says this in number three, it says,
It is indispensable for us to undermine all faith, to tear it out of the mind of the quote goyim, the very principle of Godhead and the Spirit,
and to put in its place calculations and material needs, arithmetical calculations and material needs.
It also says in four,
Thus all the nations will be swallowed up in the pursuit of gain, and in the race for it will not take note of their common foe.
And it's very much that America has fallen to drinking and whoredom, and that's the Bible's message consistently.
Nations always fall to drinking and whoredom, to not being sober and chasing after whoredom, and that's what America has done.
We've become sawtooth children, and we've become drunkards, so we're not interested in the truth.
And really, men, when they're not pursuing drugs and alcohol, and they're not pursuing whores, can then focus a lot of energy on learning, education, building, being economical, being spiritual,
doing all the things that we need to do and are commanded to be as men.
But these two things keep us subdued, docile, ignorant, and the Bible even says,
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Christianity is being destroyed due to these things.
Our nation is being destroyed due to these things.
And that the only thing that can wake these people out of their stupor is the gospel of Jesus Christ.
And we need people to recognize this.
I think that the youth, I've seen some hope in the youth of this country, and I am dedicated to reaching these people with the truth and trying to help them recognize what's really going on.
There's so much misinformation, there's so many lies, there's so many false prophets, there's so much deception, and honestly, the truth just slices through it so quickly.
And so that's why I'm dedicated to making films and projects and having a podcast and going beyond just the pulpit to try and reach people and talk to people.
And I'll have a conversation with anybody, because the truth fears no investigation.
And the reality is, you know, the Bible is the ultimate truth.
I'm not smarter than other people. I'm not even necessarily as well read as very many people.
But one thing I do know is that the Bible is just so true and so good, and I know the Bible very well.
And that helps me to navigate this dark world that we live in very well.
So I really appreciate this conversation.
Honestly, this is the most important conversations that can be had.
And I'm really grateful that other people want to talk about this.
So thanks, Ian, so much for letting me have this conversation with you.
Yeah, and pastor, what I would love to do is to make this perhaps part of our and I'm trying to get these spaces to a point where we've got lots of interesting topics for everybody that cover tons of different ground.
And look at the world through a bunch of different prisms, right, whether it's history, whether it's present issues, political, moral, ethical, etc.
I would love to have you kind of come back on a cadence of whatever frequency would work with you if it's every, you know, once every two weeks, once every month, etc.
And maybe just use it as a chance to do a religious take on either current events, almost like a homily in some ways, because I think what you just shared, this space has been so powerful.
It's also been inspirational.
The ways that you talked about the founding of this nation and its ties to kind of Christian ideology, you put it in a way that, like you said, the truth cuts, it cuts through all the noise.
And you just did a marvelous job. I'm sure everybody greatly appreciated it. And also, it gives us a little bit of hope in the sense that the world is a dark place right now.
And I think the West is overtaken by a lot of sin, lust and greed. And, you know, if we think back to Wall Street and that quote, greed is good.
I think, unfortunately, the powers that be realize they could use entertainment and propaganda to kind of shift and shape cultural perspectives in a way that has led us away from the truth, has pushed us towards sin and that which is not righteous.
And now we find ourselves in this mess where, like you said, people are kind of complacent with their luxuries.
And as a result, they're willing to kind of watch their not only their present, but most concerningly, they're willing to watch the future slip away from their children and their grandchildren's generation.
Because I don't see any prosperity similar to what we've had the last last couple of decades in the West if things continue the way that they are.
So, like I said, I'd love to do this as an ongoing cadence with you and kind of use this to infuse some religious perspectives into our spaces as we get these a little bit more solidified.
So, I just want to thank you. And we can actually turn to I see RGS down there. I see Whitsitt. Some other familiar faces. Dom is down here. John's down here.
If you're open to it, Pastor, I would love to maybe cycle through some Q&A with some other individuals if you have still a little bit of time.
Yeah, let's do it. Love to do it.
I have just a small question.
Real quick, Machiavelli, before you do, just because otherwise I might forget, I just wanted to ask as maybe a lead into this segment, since we were talking about the founding of the country in America anyway, and its dependence on religion and in particular Christianity to shape it,
I was curious because a lot of people were asking questions about things like in God we trust. They were pointing to the US dollar and some of the symbolism there.
And then they also had another person had an infographic or an image that they shared, Pastor, that had a statue of George Washington that was kind of in the same position, if you will, or the same hands signals of some pretty demonic forces.
And so I'm kind of curious if you want to take a quick stab at kind of Freemasonry, how this applies, and if any of that was infused in some of the founders, whether it's on, because I think in God we trust, that's a slogan that's been around for quite some time.
But maybe if you could speak through how that type of ideology was in maybe the first 50 to 100 years of America compared to maybe modern times, and if these statues are modern incarnations or if this is something that's been there kind of as a subversion from the origin.
Sure. I think this is a great question, because I think a lot of people, they kind of go in only one direction. They kind of take what I just said and kind of gloss over America as just like, we're all super Christian, we just love the Bible and we're all great and wonderful.
And then there's kind of like the other side that would say like, oh, they're all Freemasons and Satanic and evil and wicked, and I believe the truth's in the middle there, because of course, even with Jesus Christ himself, Judas Iscariot was one of the disciples who was undermining and subverting the entire time, and sold out the Lord Jesus Christ.
And I believe American history is going to have its bad players as well. It's going to have people that are acting in bad faith, subverting, of course there's demonic forces at work even in some of the founding of our country.
You look at the Pentagon, you look at Washington DC, you can see this like upside down pentagram design of the city. You see the giant obelisk, you see the Statue of Liberty, which is like this tranny basically in a sense.
And so obviously there's been demonic forces at work trying to undermine and subvert the Christian heritage of our nation and of our country.
And I think some people are, let's just be honest, people are complex. I don't think that even you could say like, not, people aren't just like all bad and all good. Some people are just kind of a mixed bag.
And you know, you look at George Washington was a Freemason. He's definitely a mixed bag no matter what. I think it's kind of difficult to ascertain exactly what category you want to put this individual.
But there's a lot of good things about George Washington, despite him being a Freemason, and I think it's possible that sometimes good people get mixed up in really bad things.
You have Solomon in the Bible. He was a great guy, loved the Lord, in fact is arguably the wisest man to ever live according to the scripture, yet then he gets mixed up with false religion, false gods, even ordaining and being okay with the sacrifice of children on altars.
And so obviously if you looked at Solomon in that one little time of his life, you'd say, well this guy's really satanic and evil, but you look in the past, he's like super godly and really Christian, and I think that's the complexity of humanity.
And so there's certainly been bad actors, there's been Thomas Jefferson wrote his own Bible, and he was not saved, he was not a good Christian, okay. But everybody at that time had to pretend to be Christian because that's just how the culture was.
So of course you have bad actors, you have people that are just kind of pretending, faking, not interested, subverting, you have other secular ideologies kind of trying to get weaved in, and so that's true.
When we talk about In God We Trust, that's in 1956, when that kind of came out as an official motto of the United States. This is basically in response to the de-Christianization of America.
You have certain figures trying to kind of bring us back and trying to bring back America into quote, being Christian, and so you have some of these symbols and you have some of this heritage being kind of brought up.
But it's also not without its subversiveness. You have the Eye of Horus on the back of our dollar. A lot of things about the Federal Reserve specifically are very evil, very satanic, and so I think you kind of have a mixture, you have a lot of gullible people being taken advantage of,
and so, you know, but generally, just the populace as a whole has been a pretty Christian nation in general. Of course, a lot of people still even, it doesn't matter what time you go back, people weren't going to church. Doesn't mean they're necessarily reading their Bible, but it's just kind of a Christian subculture, subtext that's there.
And, you know, of course, you think about the 1920s, which is crazy. They literally had the temperance movement. It was illegal to buy and sell alcohol in America. That's how overtly Christian, at times, laws had become in our nation.
And so, you know, even I think Muslim countries still have laws like that. So I hope that that kind of gives a little bit of an answer to your question. I don't know if you have a follow up there.
No, I think that was perfect. And I just wanted to call out, I shared up in The Nest, somebody, Revenant Ghost, wrote in, love, love, love this more. I listen to this every day.
So I just wanted to share that one with you, Pastor. It's just an affirmation of the wonderful work and the interesting ways that you're bringing kind of your understandings to the mass. I think we've got about 150 people in here.
And so with that, you know, I just wanted to share, because I think this has been a very, very well received space. I do look forward to incorporating these going forward and kind of having this as a way to add some spirituality into what can otherwise be pretty draining topics.
Right. Like understanding the Bolsheviks, communism, the influence of Judaism on society, some of the things that are in the Talmud. These are all very dark topics.
And so I think to have you come in here, this array of light has been really incredibly fascinating and uplifting. With that, I want to go to some hands, first and foremost, with Whitsitt.
Just a second.
Oh, yeah, Machiavelli. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't glance over. Yeah, I didn't see your hand up. Go for it.
I took it down because I interrupted you like a moron at the start. But I wanted to say thank you for your statements and explanation. It's very into my religion. I'm a baptized Christian. I believe in God.
I believe in the fact that subversion has been taken so far that the truth is always what you should be kind of healing, in a sense. You have to use your logic, but at the same time, things are not so easy to understand.
And I want you to look into history or archaeology itself as being attacked constantly. They want to shut it down.
Gobleki Tepe is one of the sites that has been attacked recently is in Turkey, which is, they say, a lot older than you stated at the start. But like, I can't really agree nor disagree with you or them because both sites and the truth has been subverted.
So I just want you to maybe look into it a little bit and one day come back. Or if you have any knowledge about the site, just let me know.
Sounds great. And I mean, honestly, I think that there's a goal to make everything confusing. And there's a lot of different versions of history.
And again, when we talk about Christianity, let's just be honest. It's fragmented into a billion pieces right now. And you talk to, this is the famous saying, you talk to two Baptists, you're gonna get three opinions.
And within Christianity, there is a wide array of beliefs, opinions, people are very strongly opinionated on these subjects.
And so, of course, I don't want to say that I'm right about everything because no one's right about everything, but obviously I strongly believe the things that I am saying, otherwise I wouldn't say them.
And I think it's important to look to the facts and history as well to corroborate the viewpoints that we have. History and science and all these things corroborate the Bible, and they're compatible with true doctrine. So I appreciate those comments, Machiavelli.
My pleasure. And Goble Kepi, there's a bright insight. He's a very interesting person that you should look into. I think I linked it. He's talking about archaeology being taken over by the group of people that you were speaking of, the liars or the subversive ones, the Jews actually.
They have been taking control of all the archaeology sites in the world. So thank you for letting me speak, and have a good one.
Thank you, Machiavelli. And feel free, since you're on the speaker panel, if you have a post about that, feel free to send that up to the Nest so that everybody can quickly get access to it.
And with that, let's go to Whitsitt, and then we'll go to RGS. And if anybody else wants to come up, feel free to request a microphone. I'm happy to dish those out.
What's up? Very fascinating space. I was listening earlier, I think anonymously, but it was very interesting. Especially stuff like no Catholicism in Georgia until the late 1800s, and you couldn't hold office in Pennsylvania unless you professed Jesus. That's pretty fascinating.
So I guess my question is, because when I looked into this a while back, it does kind of align with what I found, which was that it seemed like a lot of the Founding Fathers' main concern were Jesuits.
Right, John Adams is famously quoted as saying that they were one of the greatest calamities against mankind. He said he was concerned about the resurrection of Jesuits, but then he said something to the effect of, we're compelled to basically allow them due to our religious toleration, or something like that.
So I guess my question is, do you think that that's kind of how Jews were able to infiltrate and subvert in the States? Because of course, Christopher Columbus seemingly was a Jew, as were all of his top people long before the founding of America.
Do you think that they kind of honed in on the enemy of the Jesuits, and by proxy of focusing on them, the Jews kind of came in undercover? I'm just kind of curious, you may have talked about that, but I'm curious what you think about those two groups and kind of the relationship with the founding of America. Do you have any input on that?
Yeah, I like your question. I definitely know Whitsitt. We had an interesting discussion about the shape of the earth a few months back. You know, when we talk about this specific issue, I think that there's a lot of influences that are negative that they were fighting against, so I don't think there's one enemy.
The Catholic Church was something that was abhorred by America, I mean, by and large. And again, there were Catholics that moved here, and I'm not trying to say there was, and I think Maryland had their own little section of Catholics.
And because America was so giant geographically, you couldn't necessarily, I mean, we have a couple hundred people or a couple thousand people in a small settlement, you can't enforce your religious beliefs into every single section of all of the great vast colonial area, so you still have Catholics coming in.
When it comes to the Jews specifically, you know, they were looked upon with disgust by most Europeans still, you know, in this time. I mean, read Martin Luther. Martin Luther says on the Jews and their lies, and he just rips on Jews, you know, explicitly, and America is a very anti-Jew and anti-Catholic at its founding.
So Jews are not really a major part of the early parts of American history. If you look at Georgia specifically, James Oglethorpe, the governor, is kind of singly-handedly responsible for allowing certain Jews to come in. A lot of people didn't want them to be there.
But a lot of Jews were medical doctors and things like this, and they just kind of became a part of society, and because they became a part of society, people started kind of allowing them to exist, and then they're like, we need to change laws because we like these people, and then they bring in the Catholics, and of course, they need multiple religions as a cover, because if you just tell a bunch of Christians like, hey, we need to be able to exercise our religious rights of Judaism, they're going to be like, no.
So that's where you kind of have the open door of like, no, we want, you know, Catholics and all these other people, and that's kind of that subversion.
But even up to World War II, I think that people don't understand, like, America did not want to enter into World War II, and they definitely weren't like, we want to go, quote, rescue the Jews or something like that.
There was a lot of opposition to that war effort. People liked Germans. Adolf Hitler was the Time magazine person of the year. We'd gone over to Germany, and we'd participated in their Olympics, and of course, there was a rivalry. There was a competition.
Of course, we looked at them as a foe in some ways, but we also respected them, liked them. I mean, many American men would have wanted to marry German women. Many Germans would have wanted to marry Americans.
There was a common ancestry. And so in a sense, they were kind of a brother from another mother. And, you know, really, it wasn't until we do an embargo against Japan, strong are them, and force them into bombing Pearl Harbor, that caused us to have the propaganda tool necessary to draw on the war effort, and to drag hundreds of thousands of young men into into the German war effort and to fight Germany.
And it's crazy that we sided with the Russians. After World War II, you have this giant group of displaced Jews, because they don't have anywhere to go. Europe's been destroyed and decimated. That's where you get 1948, a call to put them in the Middle East. But you also have a lot of Jews fleeing to America.
And we were trying to say like, Oh, well, we just want to bring these people in. Why do we want to bring all these Jews in? Well, it's because the political elites know that they're in control of a lot of banking power and wealth. And they're just trying to bring these people into line their pockets. And it wasn't necessarily like a humanitarian effort, or we love them or anything. And the Jews basically get into our country in World War II.
If you understand that most American men were not circumcised before World War II, it wasn't until Jewish doctors in post-World War II, baby boomer generation, and the 1950s, that you actually have circumcision becoming a regular practice in America, Jews becoming a part of the culture.
And of course, they focus in on a lot of degenerate business practices like Hollywood, and banking and these type of institutions that gave them the ability to gain control politically. In the 1960s, there was a huge effort to try and squash out the socialism that was being brought in by them. And all of a sudden, after just a few people were jailed, and nothing really happened, it just went away.
They seized control of the media, of politicians, of major corporations. They become the mouthpiece of America through Hollywood and propaganda tools. And now we're in the position that we're in today, where we have a lot of Jews in concentrated in basically New York, LA. Why? Because these are the media places of the world. They need to control the message and the narrative.
And you basically have LGBTQ and Jewish populations that are way outnumbering the demographics in New York, San Francisco, LA, Chicago, Miami. And so there's a direct correlation to the LGBTQ, to this Jewish influence. Of course, that's why you have this group of people.
And then they got a stranglehold on false prophets and false teachers. Like John Hagee, you have the Schofield Bible. That was a big influence into bringing in the Zionist idea and saying, let's have a rebirth of Israel. And we have the modern state of Israel in 1948. And it really changed the culture and mindset because prior to that, everybody believes in replacement theology virtually. It's the understanding the church has replaced Israel. It's just a fact of history. 70 AD, Israel ceased to be a nation. The church grew over the world.
And it's been the major force for the last 2,000 years. And the modern state of Israel in 1948, I believe, is a device of the devil to bring in the end times. It's not a miracle of God or him blessing a certain ethnic group, because God's not a respecter of nations, as the Bible says. He's not a respecter of persons. And God loves every person, black, yellow, red, brown, tall, small, it doesn't matter. He wants them all to be saved. And so it's racist to be a Zionist.
That's the most racist ideology. They always talk about being anti-racist. The most racist viewpoint is Zionism, which teaches that Jews are special and that they're better than us. And look, I'm not against Jews, but they're not special. They're not better. They're still mankind, and they need the gospel, and they need truth.
And I have friends that are Jews that have converted to Christianity, and I love them. I had an attorney that was a Jew, and I really like him. He's converted to Christianity. And these are some great people, and I really like them. There's nothing wrong with them for their ethnicity.
But at the same time, I don't think that the Jews and Catholics were working together very much, because if you study history, the Catholic Church hates the Jews. It would have only been like certain elites kind of working together. And of course, the Jesuits have their problems, and they are a foe. But I don't think that the Jews necessarily needed the Jesuits that much.
I think it's really just they had control of the banking, and they used that to strong-arm politicians and bring them in. And if you read the Protocols of Leonidos Verzion, they'll tell you exactly what they do. And they'll tell you that they bribe and extort politicians, and that's how they gain political control.
And again, the Jesuits had power at one point, so they may have subverted some of them. But at this point, Jesuits don't have the power that they did in the 1500s, 1600s. Good question. I don't know if that answered kind of what you were thinking.
Oh yeah, that was a very thorough answer. Thank you, brother.
The American people certainly didn't have this animosity against the Germans, as would be presented by Hollywood, which should make us ask who's in control of that narrative. The other thing that I'd quickly add is that in addition to Pearl Harbor, of course, I did a space with Zlunks who – he was in here early. Yep, he's still in here. I'll send him an invite to speak if he wants to come up.
Simply because we did a space, and he walked through historical documentation that he had found from newspapers prior to America's entrance into the war, a lot of which were post-Pearl Harbor, where basically the U.S. media was telling Americans that cities like New York, I believe Chicago, San Francisco, and others were being attacked via air raids and in some cases submarine strikes on U.S. cities.
Where not only were the media lying and making these things up, but there were even what seemed like U.S. military activities that were basically creating false flags to build support for this idea that the American people should go and join into the war.
Obviously, the media and quote-unquote people in control had to – they had to propagandize the citizenry to even join into that war, which is just a piece of history that was completely unknown to me.
I'd be surprised if even one in maybe 100,000 Americans are aware that those types of things were taking place, and it just goes to show that this psychological warfare on the once very Christian American people has been going on at this point over a century.
Well, honestly, the facts of World War II are so in opposition of the narrative that I feel like they don't talk about it.
Like, I mean, when I was in public school, I learned a lot of history, but I feel like they never talked about World War II.
I mean, almost nothing. And I think it's just because, like, when you start even just opening your mouth, it's like, wait a minute, like, none of this fits the narrative.
And so it's something like – think about it. You can't even question the Holocaust. You can't even talk about these things. It's illegal.
Because as soon as you just start talking about any facts of World War II or any of the things that are happening, it's like narratives start falling apart quick, and a lot of money is on the line, a lot of vested interests.
I mean, literal nations are based on the results of World War II. I mean, it's crazy that you go to school and you don't even learn any of this stuff.
It's because the truth and history are really clear on these topics. And so, you know, it's really important to get it out there.
And again, that's why I say the gaslighting in these subjects is intense. The amount of misinformation is intense. And we need to look at primary sources.
We need to look at original documents. And that's how we can kind of get the scales off from our eyes.
That's just so well stated. With that, let's go over to Carthageite. And actually, really quickly, Zlungs, I'm not sure if you want to add anything. I saw you down there in the listeners.
If you want to add maybe 60, 90 seconds on some of the wonderful research you did, and then we'll go over to Carthageite, and then we'll go up to Dom.
Yeah, basically, to get the American public into World War II, there was a big sign-up operation.
As Ian mentioned, there was a fake bombing raid on New York. Schools were closed down. People thought there were planes that were bombing New York, San Francisco, and even submarine shells in Elwood in California.
Fake submarine attack. And then in California was the biggest one. There was an air raid where the military popped off 1,500 rounds of anti-aircraft shells into the night sky.
So yeah, it was a pretty big sign-up to get everyone riled up into World War II. It also helped people to buy bonds to basically fund the war.
So not only were they getting people enlisting, trying to protect their country, they were also getting people to basically buy bonds to get involved in the war.
It's just crazy when you realize that. And the faking of those air raids, it's just wild that that happened in particular New York, where they broadcast that and shut down all the schools and all those things.
And people are completely oblivious to this. And when you start piecing those parts of history together, it gets very, very, very curious and makes you question a lot more than just history, which is how we get to some of the topics that we talk about.
But let's go over, I believe Carthage had his hand up, so let's go to him and then we'll go to Dom and then we'll go down to John.
Sorry, I cut out a bit. I had a question for Pastor Shelley interested around kind of like earlier he was talking about like the French Revolution and a bunch of other historical events.
I think earlier on he touched on like the fall of Rome and things like this. And seemingly he ascribed all these kind of historical events to Jews.
And then I heard Whitsitt say something a little silly, which was that Christopher Columbus was obviously a Jew, which isn't true at all, FYI.
But basically what I'm asking is at what point are we ascribing too much power to Jews, not just in like the modern day, which we know there's like a lot of power resides with Jews in America, but historically.
Where do we draw the line and be like, hey, you know, this is probably a Jewish fable that they had all this power for all of history or whatever?
I think that's a good question. Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. I think if, you know, the early part of my timeline, if you kind of follow it, I was not ascribing a lot of power to Jews.
I mean, it's the Roman Empire that's dominating and persecuting Christians for the first 300 years.
Then you kind of have a break from Constantine to about 500 AD. Then you have the Dark Ages, which is it's the Catholic Church that's in control and dominating in Europe.
All the way up until, you know, we basically have the Protestant Reformation, we have the Church of England being established, you kind of have a separation of powers there.
It really wasn't, it wasn't until the French Revolution that you see this Jewish power uprising.
So from my perspective, like if you kind of understand the French Revolution, they became very decadent again.
And you have a lot of Jewish lawyers kind of using their situation with the peasantry to overthrow the government.
And once they overthrow the government, they install Napoleon Bonaparte, which has the emancipation of the Jews.
And he conquers all of Europe basically and just emancipates Jews because Jews were hated and outlawed and essentially not able to really have much influence and power in most of Europe for a long period of time.
And it wasn't kind of until the French Revolution with Napoleon.
I mean, it's interesting they just made a movie about Napoleon Bonaparte since they literally have a song dedicated to him and the Jews will sing.
But he basically emancipated a lot of these laws and made it where they were capable of kind of re-establishing themselves in a lot of these European countries.
And it wasn't, and again, they're kind of working behind the scenes in a lot of these places.
You have the Rothschilds obviously working with banking, funding, all these different wars.
And then, of course, you have the Bolshevik Revolution, which, again, I highly recommend this book, Behind Communism, which kind of gives the pretext of why that even happened and how that even happened.
But the Jews were limited to a certain area geographically, like the pale.
It's called they're like in the pale and they're not allowed to go outside the pale.
But over time, the Russians ended up allowing the Jews to be highly educated.
They infiltrated all the major institutions of power and influence.
And through World War I, you basically gave, there was this small opportunity for them to overthrow the aristocracy, which is described in the Protocols of Elder Zion of how they do these type of things, which is written around that timeline.
And they had to overthrow the monarch and the aristocracies in Europe to actually gain power.
They didn't have the power yet.
And they used a lot of subversive means.
Then they had to infiltrate America and they really haven't seized control of America until the recent history.
This is, you know, through means of the Federal Reserve, Hollywood, getting control of media corporations and slowly kind of getting their way into the point where now a presidential cabinet is mostly Jewish.
And now, you know, obviously, Israel gaining more power and influence in the world.
And it's just kind of escalating.
It's not to say that Jews are in control of the world and all of history is just crazy.
It's nonsense.
It's demonstrably false.
But that doesn't undermine the fact that we see an uprising in modern history and they're influential in a lot of these major world events.
I hope that maybe that answers a little bit of what you're saying there, Carthage.
And real quick on that, just a couple statistics.
66 percent of Biden's 30 person cabinet are either ethnically Jewish or married to a Jew.
And if you include the individuals that have a Jewish undersecretary, so if not they, but their number two person is Jewish, it goes all the way up to 91 percent.
So that's 27 out of 30 of the cabinet members.
It's just it's an astonishing percentage.
If you look at the White House staff, it's 34 percent.
If you look at the top donors to the 2020 election, it was 17 of the top 25 donors were Jewish.
I mean, the numbers go on and on and on.
And to say that it's not overwhelmingly overrepresented by that group is, you know, it would just be crazy at this point because it's so clear cut.
How can you how can you how can you attribute that to and obviously I agree that they're highly overrepresented in both legal areas in Hollywood and kind of the subversive, like degenerate areas.
But how can especially for like Biden's cabinet and things like this.
I mean, if you ever talk to your average Jew in America, they're not these like Talmudist plotting schemers that are like trying to undermine you and make you circumcise your kids or whatever.
Most of the time, they're just like white liberals.
Right. Well, real quick on that one.
And look, you might not be right.
But what I what I could say or you might be right in that they might not be Talmudic in their religious views.
They might not have even read the book or have any idea what's in it.
But what I can tell you is that the overrepresentation across Hollywood and the media and the ownership of big tech.
I mean, we don't have to even debate that. I feel like it's just commonly accepted.
And the reason that I say it is because whether it's Hollywood and the media, the propaganda.
Right. Hell, the founder of Netflix is Mark Randolph Bernays, who's the descendant of Edward Bernays, considered the Jewish father of propaganda, who is the descendant of Sigmund Freud, the Jewish father of psychoanalysis.
So whether it's Netflix, the largest streaming service in the world or Disney or any of these others with Bob Iger at the top of Disney.
Of course, I don't think I need to defend that the media is overwhelmingly Jewish.
And I say that because obviously the media pushes these ideas of DEI and the importance of diversity.
And then DEI is jammed. And I could show you a video of Larry Fink, the CEO of BlackRock, saying that they need to use their influence over the economy to force companies to take action to support DEI policies.
Larry Fink and the entire C suite of BlackRock is all Jewish.
Now, I bring that up because those individuals are saying we need diversity in the workplace. We need diversity of ideas.
We need to celebrate diversity. And yet if you look at Biden's cabinet, it's none of that.
So you've got these 27 out of 30 people in Biden's cabinet that have these extremely close linked ties to Judaism.
Like I said, whether it's their birth, their spouse or their undersecretary.
And yet all of those cabinet members are shouting to the world, we have to have diversity of everything.
And it's like, is that not the most obviously hypocritical stance that anybody could take when they look around the room and it's just their teeny tiny click?
But they're enforcing DEI policies that are essentially being used to stab the white American middle class, largely Christians, in the back and to force them out of positions of prospective prosperity.
And so when you start to see those dots and you realize that not only are they overrepresented, but they're obviously using things like Hollywood, big tech, DEI policies.
They're using them to destroy the once prosperous group of people that, like the pastor mentioned, were at the inception of this nation.
It becomes something that, frankly, is very emotionally taxing.
And not only is it, in my opinion, wrong, but it's unbelievably gaslighting that I have to sit around and listen to these people blab on about the importance of these ideas that they don't in any way, shape or form bring into manifestation.
It's purely just a weapon against people that are in this group of the once healthy middle class that are being, frankly, impoverished, brainwashed, dumbed down, fattened up, and are being drugged with SSRIs, alcohol, weed, anything and everything that they can throw at the middle class to satiate the depression that is resulting from the implosion of the once prosperous nation.
Can I touch on this?
I want to come on this first, because this is such an important tension. And here's the thing. The average Jew does not control the world or have a secret zoom meeting or something in a lever where they can press and, and control things.
It's obvious that that's not true, and I think some people try to use this to undermine what you just said there, Ian.
And here's how I can explain this tension, is when someone is ethnically Jewish, even if they aren't practicing, they still are in a culture and being raised in a particular worldview that is being influenced by this religion of Judaism.
Because their uncles, their aunts, they're going to be taken to synagogue here and there. They're going to have an infused worldview that's coming from the Talmud, and that Talmud, again, is a satanic ideology. It's an Antichrist religion.
And because of that religious influence, it's going to influence them whether they go to synagogue, whether they're super practicing, whether they read the Talmud or not.
And that religion is a love of money. That religion is focusing in on gaining power and wealth by any means necessary.
And so that's why you see this correlation. The attack on white people is also not because white people are physically superior or mentally superior.
It's because white people in America were Christians, and because white people were Christians, the attack is always on the gospel, and it's always the devil who's ultimately in power and control of this world, and he's going to use his minions to attack Christianity.
And the attack against white people is a thinly veiled attack against Christianity and Christians specifically. They don't really care, because they're obvious hypocrites about this. Jews are white, Biden's white, you have Hillary Clinton's white, white always talk about how bad white people are.
It's because it's about Christianity that they're really attacking. That's why these people can be so disingenuous about it. They're like, oh, white people are bad. They're not saying white people are bad.
If you just substitute the word Christian every time they say white, the world will make sense to you all of a sudden. You'll finally understand everything that they're actually saying, because they're not Christian.
Biden's not Christian, Hillary's not Christian, any of these people. So that's how they can kind of abstract themselves from identifying as white.
And this is why you also see the label far-right black people as being white. Oh, you're actually really just a white guy or whatever. And it's because they're really trying to say, oh, you're really actually Christian or you care about the truth.
And if you seek the truth, the more Christian you'll become. The more you read the Bible and study the Bible, the more truth you get to. And the more you hate the truth, the more you'll kind of hate things in the Bible.
And people are on a sliding scale here. Some people like some truth, some people like a lot of truth, but it's hard to find people that like all the truth.
And then the reality is that this Antichrist religion is the minions and the ministers and the servants of the Satan, and especially the high-ranking officials, and the devil is using these people to censor Christianity and destroy Christianity as a nation, because that's his ultimate goal.
He is a thief. He is the destroyer. He is the antagonist. He is the ultimate enemy of humanity. The devil hates all humans. He hates the Jews. He hates everyone. And the devil wants us all to be destroyed and killed.
And he's using the people that subscribe to his religion to his advantage. And of course, you look at some of the practices of Judaism and these Hollywood elites, and it's overtly satanic in nature.
You look at the Grammys. You look at what they do behind closed doors. You look at what they do to children. The human trafficking. You look at all of these things. It's just tied to their worship of the devil.
Whether they realize it or not, they are the synagogue of Satan, and that's just the reality. You can't text that or tweet that, but that is what's going on.
Again, I know Jews individually that are nice people, and I have friends that have converted to Christianity. There's nothing wrong with them. It's not like they're this doomed ethnic lineage or something like that.
It's just that, if we're to be honest, they're raised in a culture and they're raised in an environment that is a lover of money and that which is evil, and so therefore a lot of them have a very bad worldview, and they have to reconcile with the Bible to change that mindset.
And real quick, if I can, and then I want to go back to Whitsitt because I know he had some thoughts on this, but I'd also just add in, even independent of the religious aspect, and I say this because if you look at studies on in-group preference, as I always found this very, very fascinating, not only do Jews have the highest level of in-group preference for their fellow religious individuals.
So they basically will favor, they have a more favorable outlook to fellow Jews based on religion, but also from an ethnic standpoint. So in other words, whites look at other whites and they say, oh, that's a white person. Okay, great.
Or maybe that's just good, or maybe it's fine that they're a white person, but the allegiance or the alliance that they have based on both skin color or from Christian to Christian is lower than from Jew to Jew as an ethnicity and Jew to Jew as a religion.
And so like the pastor was just saying, that in-group preference is a result of that very, very strong knit culture that they grow up in. So you have to take into consideration, even if they're not necessarily religious, they're raised in this culture of Jew, there is the idea of Israel and the nationality of Jew, there's of course the religion, there's the ethnicity, there's all these different pieces that play into it.
And so just like he was saying, I know lots of Jewish individuals. I have many, many, many of them that have been part of my life in one way or another. And both the cultural differences are very specific, but there's also this very tightly knit community where even if you're not going into any of the religious ceremonies, people, they might just practice Hanukkah and all these other things, but they do also just socialize outside of any religious specific context just with one another that happened to be Jewish.
So it's a very tight group. And so I think you're correct. The member of Biden's cabinets, they might not know anything about the Talmud, but when they go to look at who they're going to hire to fill in the positions underneath them, they're going to have a higher preference towards fellow Jews. And that back to that concept of DEI, it runs in the face of it. But if you're a Jew, you can identify as non-white when you apply for a job. So what does that mean? That means you benefit from the concept of diversity where that white individual might not.
And I do think that it is anti-white. I think it's also anti-Christian. And so I might have a little bit more of aggressive perspective on that than maybe the pastor does. And that's fine. We can have totally different positions. But I do see this effort at the quote unquote globalist level.
They're importing individuals that are Christian from South American and Central American nations into America. And I think that effort is just as much about being anti-white, even if they are in fact Christian. But that's just the difference of opinion. I agree with everything else he said.
Yeah, I hate to clarify on that, because here's the thing. Importing these people from South America, they're not the same Christian as I'm talking about, nor in Africa. And neither would they subscribe to the original principles that we have in our founding documents as a nation. So, you know, again, that's where Christianity itself is such a broad bucket. And there's so much diversity in it.
Unfortunately, some people get confused and they think, well, these people are Christian, but they're really not. They don't really care what the Bible says. They're, I mean, again, South America is heavily influenced by Catholicism, and now maybe a little bit Pentecostalism. But those are two groups that were identified in the document that I showed earlier as not even being a part of society. So, you know, again, I don't have anything against people that have strong preferences towards like, hey, I'm white, and I want to marry a white person.
Like that makes total sense. And I believe if a country or a nation has enough time, they will all look the same anyways. There's a reason why all the Japanese look the same. There's a reason why all the Chinese look the same. There's a reason why all the South Koreans look the same. There's a reason why all the Europeans look a certain way.
It's because when you have an ideological continuity and you're geographically distinct from other areas, they're going to all meld and blend together and look the same. And they're going to have a common physical appearance that's tied very closely to their ideology.
It's only in the modern era where we have a lot of this mixing and the travel exploding that you see, I mean, America's this melting pot, quote, unquote, but...
Hold on. Jews look the same.
What is it?
Jews look the same.
Exactly. They have ideological continuity. That's the thing. And they, like you said, they have strong preference of tribalism where they will only marry each other, even if they are geographically distributed everywhere. They're kind of like the only group of people that are really, they're not the only.
Everybody's actually like this, but I'm just saying they are very much like this.
Tribalism is a theme.
Yes, exactly. Tribalism. But that tribalism is not always just demographically based on their physical appearance. It's also based on their ideology, and that's what's driving a lot of that.
Would you say then that the answer to this tribalism and this in-group preference that we see from Jews, and you see it from other immigrant groups like Indians who are now the CEOs of a bunch of tech companies, would you say then the answer to this is to have an in-group preference or for white people to have an in-group preference and for Christians to have an in-group preference to fight back and forth?
No, I mean, because that's the shadow.
But aren't they told, just to push back on that, aren't they told that right off the bat they're racist if they even consider that?
Yeah, I mean, of course they say that, but who cares what they say, right?
Yeah, I've been treated racist all the time, but, you know, I have a church filled with every single color and all kinds of people all over the world, and look, I've preached on these topics and said specifically, like, I don't care if people, quote, intermix, like, race, quote, unquote, because I don't believe in race.
I think that race is a man-made construct that's not tied to reality, science, or the Bible whatsoever.
But at the same time, like, it's not necessarily wise to mix race when you're actually mixing ideology, and that's almost usually the case.
And so that's why it's kind of a bad thing.
Yeah, you're mixing, like, all these random religions and viewpoints and views and food, and it's just like, it's just bad.
And let's be honest, Christian culture is just the best culture period.
I mean, there's a reason why India sucks. It's because Hinduism is the worst religion, and it's bringing its filth onto the people there, and nobody wants to move to India virtually, because it's just, it's not hygienic, and it's an anti-biblical religion.
And they rejected the UK. I mean, the UK came and colonized them, and they actually were pretty good for a while and had a lot of success, prosperity, but they rejected the Bible, rejected Christianity by and large, and so look what happened to them.
Now God's punishing them with Hinduism and abominable filth and a horrible caste system, and, you know, culture is important.
And why would I want to import that to America? Because, let's be honest, I've met a lot of Indian people that are very nice, but I don't want to import Hinduism.
Hinduism is evil and wicked, and I want nothing to do with it, and, you know, it's tightly coupled with being physically Indian.
Whether that's, you know, a fair assessment or not, it's just the reality. But I've met Indians that are Christian, and I like them, and I'm for every Christian, and I even like these people. I want these people to be saved.
But let's just be honest. I don't want you to be a part of my country until you're willing to abide by our laws, and our laws are based on the Christian principles set out in the Bible, and if people don't want that, then they shouldn't be a part of our nation or our country.
They shouldn't be allowed to immigrate. They shouldn't be allowed to be here. I mean, you have to look at immigration like your household. You're not going to open your door and say, anybody can come in. You're only letting people come in with a purpose.
People should only be allowed to come to America because either, A, they're getting married to someone here specifically, or they have a job. If they don't have those, they shouldn't be here.
Forgive me for interrupting you. I mean, I've never done this spaces thing before, so I don't know if I echo or what I got, but I know at some point I got to interject.
My original icebreaker was going to be that Hitler said it best, that Jews stick together like burrs, but I'm glad that wasn't my first line on my debut for spaces.
Well, you still did it anyways.
No, listen, because ideology is really what binds us, and in the spirit of being true Americans, a lot of us as Americans are blind to that.
I'm jumping in. I can't hear whoever is speaking. I haven't been able to for the last couple of minutes here.
Oh, sorry.
I can't see the name. I can't see the name, or we'd swap them out. But real fast, Ian, this guy calling me out with Christopher Columbus is a Jew thing.
Yeah, and I put a video up in the nest on this exact thing from a space that we did where a Jew of all people was confirming that not only was Columbus Jewish, but that the ships that he was on were funded by Jews as part of the exploration, and that it directly tied into the expulsion from Spain.
Yeah.
I mean, it was literally the same year, so go for it.
Yeah, because the guy said it's obviously wrong, right? So what happened was the monarchs ordered the expulsion of Jews in the kingdoms of Castile and Argonne in 1492. Four days later, Christopher Columbus came from Spain, okay? That's just a fact. And you can even look up…
Christopher Columbus is not from Spain.
Hey, buddy, buddy, buddy, I'm speaking. So the Jewish Telegraphic Agency actually posted or published an article in 1934 explaining Christopher Columbus, a Jew who knew evidence supports a theory, and it points out that he actually went by the name Christobau Colin, as opposed to Colombo, which was later changed.
And there's ample evidence that he actually was Jewish. He left as soon as there was an expulsion. He was completely funded by Jewish financiers, and the top three people that were in charge underneath him were all Jewish. So I encourage people to look it up instead of just baselessly dismissing things, you know. He absolutely had ties to being a Jew.
So Christopher Columbus is actually quoted saying about Jesus, let me pull it up really quick. And obviously, he wasn't a Bible believing Christian or anything like this. But he said, no one should fear to undertake any task in the name of our Savior, if it is just and if the intention is purely for His holy service.
So this silliness that Christopher Columbus was Jewish, and every major historical figure was Jewish is like a part of the Jewish derangement syndrome, where people think Jews are like this omnipotent force throughout history. Christopher Columbus might have came from a conversive family, which is, for those who don't know, are Jews who were forced to convert after 1492, which was after they had finished the Reconquista and conquering Granada and things like this.
But coming from a conversive family, or having one or two Jewish ancestors does not make you Jewish.
This is called a straw man. This is called a straw man. No one said that all Jews were super powerful. I just talked about them being expelled from a country. The truth is that they weren't all powerful and the monarchs, typically Christians, kept on banning them from their country.
The only way that they got control was they would use usury and financing because most Christians actually wouldn't partake in usury. It was typically outlawed as considered immoral, but the Jews would do that. They would become very powerful. They would do things like clip off different pieces of the silver coins and make new coins and subvert the currencies.
They all had their different reasons why they got expelled, which directly goes into the face of claiming that they were all powerful or omnipotent. No one said any of that. You have to try to straw man what I'm saying.
I don't want to get into a debate with you. I'm just telling the room that can go research it. He didn't rebut any of the facts, which are, he went by a different name before he came here. He came here four days after Jews were expelled, and he was completely financed by Jews, and the top people in charge with him were also Jews.
These are all facts. That's why you can't address them. It's all good. Now the room can go look it up. A Jewish agency published a story confirming he was a Jew in the 30s.
If you could put that up in the nest, if you have a post on that one. Like I said, there's also a video from a space that we did. A Jewish individual was talking about that piece, and what was fascinating is real quick, and then we're going to go to the next speaker.
I pushed you down just because in the interest of time, I want to cycle through some other speakers, but not only was the claim that Columbus was Jewish, that his ships were all financed by Jews, but when it comes to the transatlantic slavery, that Pope Alexander VI, and I was shocked by this.
Again, this was stated by a Jewish individual. You can go and watch the video. The audio is all clipped from the space. But Pope Alexander VI, who was Jewish, signed the papal bull, papal decree that permitted slavery in the West by basically reclassifying blacks as lesser than, and therefore tolerating slavery, which otherwise would not have been allowed under Christian doctrine because it went against some of the religious teachings.
So what does that mean? It means that not only was Columbus's journey potentially Jewish, but that the transatlantic slave trade, which was also, oh, by the way, overwhelmingly funded by Jewish funded ships. It was made possible by Jewish captains that were on the ships.
And in fact, even most of the slave trades, the days where people could buy and sell slaves, the auctions were called off on Jewish holidays because there weren't people to do the buying and the selling of them.
The claim was roughly that 40% of Jews in America owned slaves, whereas as little as 2% of non-Jewish whites had slaves in the Americas. And that as many as 80% of all slaves that were owned in America were owned by Jews.
So a tiny group of people, a large, much larger chunk, about 80x the amount of whites that owned slaves and the Jewish slave owners like the Monsanto family, for example, that to this very day are multi-billionaires. They own Monsanto, which does all the GMO seed products.
They were one of the larger slave owners. They were Jews. What a strange coincidence that all is, that you wouldn't have had potentially the voyage, the permission for slavery, the ownage of those slaves, the transitioning of people from Africa into the new world, and the buying and selling of those without a drastic overrepresentation of Jews. Is that strange? I think it is.
And so these are just things about history that doesn't mean that we should hate anybody. Like I said, I have tons of individuals that are in my social circles, past, present, I'm sure the future, that are of that ethnicity or religion. I don't hold anything against them. But what I do do is I evaluate patterns. I examine history and the present that we live in to try and understand why the world that we are seeing, things like World War II, like the pastor spoke about, why are they so drastically misrepresented?
Why are Russians somehow the heroes of World War II when they commit mass genocide on individuals over the course of a couple decades leading up to that war? And is that genocide what somebody like Adolf Hitler is pushing up against?
And if so, why would Hitler, who is potentially going to war, at least intellectually, with a group that was committing mass genocide and all kinds of atrocities across Europe via the Comintern, is that a villain? And I'm not saying that he wasn't, but those are questions that we should certainly be asking.
Hey guys, sorry, I don't hear who was talking, but Ian, it was you. What genocide did Russia do? Tell me that, please.
Well, I'm going to remove you from speaker just because it's a frankly preposterous question. If you want to look into things like the Holodomor, if you want to look into the gulags, the quote is as many as 10 million individuals alone killed under Yagoda, a Jew who basically was running the early rendition not only of the gulags, but also of their, essentially their strong arm, I'd almost call it law enforcement system,
which was truly just a weapon against the masses that spoke out against the people in power. So imagine if in addition to the police and the FBI and all these things, if you had a weaponized group of individuals that were in allegiance just to those basically running the country.
And that's largely what you saw. And if you don't believe this, go back and look at the Bolshevik leadership of the early renditions of it, not only in the offset, but throughout essentially the first two, three, four decades of that power until they came to a collapse.
The over-representation of Jews was just stark. People will point to Stalin and they'll say, but Stalin wasn't a Jew. And according to Carl Rattle, he wasn't.
And he also wasn't married to a Jew, but his number two, his number three, his number four people all were. And so the over-representation there is beyond stark.
And so if you're to ask what genocide, it's just such a ridiculous question. I'm not even going to allow you on the stage up here, but let's go over to Dom who had his hand up for quite some time.
And Slovenas, I'm not going to bring you back up. I apologize. You're welcome to leave if you'd like. But Dom, why don't we go to a question from you, buddy?
Hey, good morning, everyone. As an agnostic, you know, I take a sort of a secular approach to looking at the world.
And Dom, I apologize. I'm going to cycle you. I can't hear anything. I don't know if it's just you or others, but I'm going to bring you back up here.
OK, my apologies. Yeah, I just sent him an invite to come back up. I don't know why he and some others are not able to hear, but go for it.
Can you hear me now?
I sure can, my friend.
You know, I sort of categorize myself as an agnostic, so I'm sort of I look at the world through a different lens.
I don't subscribe to any way of thinking. I just sort of look at the world and see it for what it is and and base my synopsis on just critical thinking.
When I look at the last hundred years, I can't help as somebody on the outside looking in.
Can't can't help but view Christians and Catholicism and part of the Abrahamic religion that the European diaspora around the world believe in as as as failures.
Of keeping the Jews out of power.
You know, when when you read scripture and all of the foretelling in scripture, what were the Christians and what were you doing?
Keeping the books out of the schools, calling them out for all of their isms over the last 70 years, refusing their propaganda and war.
How did you manage to get so cupped by these guys when in your book that you are supposed to believe in your deity that you believe told you that they are of the synagogue of Satan.
That they are the devil.
What were you doing?
Like how how seeped are you in your faith?
And it breaks my heart when I see all of these evangelical and Baptist air quote Christians supporting Israel as they're murdering children.
And people come on to these spaces claiming they're a Christian and that they knew this all along.
Well, you failed.
You failed miserably.
You should be looking at your feet. You shouldn't be standing all benevolent and pious.
You should be looking at your feet. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Well, I want to comment on a lot of things you said there, because number one, I do feel embarrassed for Christianity and we should be ashamed.
You know, the children of Israel turned away from God at one point and God destroyed them through the Babylonians.
And Daniel literally has to get on his knees and beg God for forgiveness for his people just turning away from the scripture.
And I would say there's still nothing wrong with the Bible. It's just that people stopped reading it and stopped following what the Bible teaches.
But I think that we have to, if we're going to say the Bible is true and that we're following what the book says, it also says in 1 John 4, verse 1,
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits, whether they have God, because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
The Bible paints a picture that there will always be a large conglomerate of false preachers and false Christianity that exists.
And that's what we have in America. I mean, Catholicism is a false religion. It's a pagan religion. It worships Mary and idols.
You look at modern evangelicals, they don't believe the Bible whatsoever. You cannot tell me that these people are following the Bible.
They don't read it. They don't study it. They're not even looking at it at all.
So the vast majority of Americans are not Christian really at all, maybe in name only, kind of like Republicans are in name only.
And so, you know, the problem is that we don't have a revival of true Christianity, of people actually following what the Bible says.
If you look historically, you have groups of people that actually believe what the book says.
And now we just have a mass exodus from the King James Bible and from what the book says.
That's why we see the generosity. That's why we see people forgetting all of this really important information that you brought up.
And it is embarrassing. It's a shame. But I think that we have to also recognize that America was so great and a superpower because they were following the Bible, because they were Christian.
It's just we've fallen and we've fallen hard and we're falling. We're in a downward spiral.
Many nations have risen and fallen and America is no different. We're not special. We're not elite.
Christians aren't better than other people by anything other than the scripture.
It's the scripture that gives us the power and blessing of God.
And when we don't follow it, we're going to be just as cursed and just as degenerate as the rest of the world.
And arguably, America, it's kind of the best of both worlds. It's doing a lot of good things still and has a lot of good people.
But at the same time, it has some of the worst evil and the biggest atrocities at the same time.
So I don't think that we can look at this situation right now and just say, oh, Christianity must be false because there's a lot of bad Christians or Christianity is false because right now America is bad.
But that's just kind of not thinking about the whole picture here and being fair with the text because the text never says, yeah, everyone's just going to follow the Bible and love it.
I mean, here's the thing. Most people hate the truth. Most people reject the truth. Most people don't like it. They don't want to hear about it.
They just simply are selfish. They just want to drink. They want to sleep around and they want to just live a very sedentary life.
They're very lazy by nature. And that's the sinfulness of man.
And because we're sinful, sometimes a nation as a whole, if they reject the Bible enough, they're going to see the consequences that we have.
And you're totally right. We did allow our very obvious enemy of Antichrist to take control and seize our nation.
And that doesn't mean that there aren't still people fighting. I'm trying to fight. I'm trying to get in the battle. I'm trying to wake people up to the truth.
And I'm literally banned on virtually every platform. I've lost countless YouTube channels. I can't even use the app. I've been banned on Facebook as a terrorist.
I've lost all credit card processing. I can't do any credit card processing with any company, with any card. I can't bank at Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Chase.
I've been sued, evicted. I've had all of our money stolen. I've had just virtually everything you can think of.
We've been protested with hundreds of protesters every single service for years. I've been vandalized.
Protesters show up at my house and harass me at my house. They follow my employees around.
They've gotten people at our church fired from their jobs. There's a real battle that's going on.
And the goal is to keep voices like mine off of the internet, not because I'm special, but because the Bible is special and because the Word of God is special.
And that's what they're afraid of. They don't care about me. I'm not special. I'm not a great speaker. I'm not really better than anybody. I'm not more intelligent than anyone.
I don't have any special, you know, traits or something like that. I'm average height, average person, but the Bible is so powerful.
And if it doesn't matter who says it, it's going to change people's hearts and minds and lives.
And they can't afford that because if we have a mass awakening in America, they will lose their power. They will lose their grip of control and they need it to be censored.
So I hope that kind of answers your question a little bit, but I agree with you. We should be ashamed of ourselves as Christians.
Well, can you name a country that where the majority is part of the Abrahamic faith, that is the most peaceful, kind, haven't dropped atomic bombs, low suicide rates, low opiate addiction, low homeless.
You know, when let's just put belief and faith in what the Jews wrote aside and just look at statistics.
And if you look at Iceland and Denmark and Sweden, these countries, it's I mean, it's you can't really argue against it that the secular country.
I don't agree with this narrative because here's the thing. You have to evaluate a country's success based on personal liberty and personal prosperity.
The Scandinavian countries do not thrive in these categories. And even even them, the reason why they're even decent is because I'm just talking about murdering other people in other countries.
Sure. Obviously, America has done horrible things. The atomic bomb was a super evil thing. I'm not promoting that.
But you have to realize that evil forces have taken control of our government throughout its history and done horrible things.
You're talking as evil forces as it's some sort of supernatural thing that has possessed the people.
Yeah, see, I don't know. That's the Jew. That's the Jew grift, right?
No, I believe these countries kill tons of people with a bioweapon, bro.
Yeah, obviously. Yeah, I'm well aware. Spiritual because I'm you know, I believe in the Bible. I have faith.
I believe that we live in a physical world. Don't you think that that's a Jewish scapegoat?
No, it wasn't me. It was it wasn't me. It was the devil. Oh, I know. Well, yeah.
OK, I agree with you there. Like people are responsible for their actions.
But I do believe that there is a spiritual element to the world that we live in and that these people can be influenced by familiar spirits or demonic spirits.
That's what the Bible teaches, that the devil influences people. That doesn't mean that they're not still making freewill choices.
They are. But some people are just making really, really bad decisions and they're allowing themselves to be influenced by spiritual wickedness in high places, as the Bible describes it.
That, you know, there's a difference between me and a dog. A dog doesn't have a soul.
Would it not be fair to let's just say we snap our fingers and the Abrahamic faiths were never written.
They were never scribed. They were never whatever invented, whatever you want to believe.
And societies and people within these societies were solely judged on their behavior and their merit throughout the centuries.
That is it. That is what you are judged by.
What standard do you use to judge the behavior if you don't have a linear code of ethics out law of man, law of man?
You cannot say that morality comes from belief in supernatural.
Well, here's the here's the thing. Your world view is kind of this is just an argument that a lot of people.
I just what. But but but. And, Pastor, I cannot help as an agnostic.
OK, I don't I'm not an atheist. I believe in a creator.
I don't think I'm saying that these two sides argue this point that you're making all the time.
And the reality is, well, I'm just going on statistics, statistics and facts in history.
No, you just said make believe you start you first started. Let's imagine a world that has no Abrahamic religions.
Well, then the world doesn't exist.
You know, I said or the make believe that the Jews wrote, like in their Torah and their Talmud and their Zohar and their Sanhedrin.
Right. But the whole the whole of this.
If you go back to the beginning of this discussion, I outlined how the the entire world in our history is based on the Bible.
You can't ignore that fact, whether you like the Bible or not. That is just the reality of the world that we live in.
And if you take away, quote, Abrahamic religions, you're taking away all of our history, 100 percent of our history and humanity.
There's no such thing as this group of, quote, secular people just living by secular laws, laws by by nature are religious.
Their inherent morality is a belief system.
And the Bible says that the word of God is written on all of our hearts and we all have a conscience.
You could you don't have the Bible says and the Bible says you always have to refer.
You have the Bible. I want you to prove the Bible and prove that morality doesn't exist without using the Bible.
There's well, there's billions of people who don't believe in the Bible.
Societies existed thousands of years before the Bible.
So how did they manage? The Bible's always is always been available and not in complete form.
Obviously, the only certain parts of the Bible were written in certain parts of history.
But even in Romans Chapter number two, it describes how it says not to stop doing that.
You've got to stop doing it. You've got to stop doing that. Can you please stop interrupting him?
Let's try to keep it a little bit more civil if we can. Here's the thing.
The Bible says for when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law.
These having not the law are law unto themselves, which show the work of the law written in their hearts,
their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing and or else excusing one another.
So the Bible describes that every person has the moral law in their heart,
and they know that stealing is wrong, lying is wrong, murder is wrong, all these things are wrong inherently.
And they want to say, like, why can't we just live by the law of man or the law of, you know, what makes sense or not hurting people?
But what they don't realize is they're actually attributing that belief to what the Bible says,
and that all of those laws come from the Bible. And so, you know, there's no such thing as a non-religious law.
It's kind of a lie. That's a Jewish lie. Atheism is a Jewish lie.
I mean, if this guy thinks that the Jews are tricking people, it's atheism specifically,
because that's protocol number four that I already brought up, that they want atheism to creep in and for people to ignore the fact that God exists.
The Bible says, the fool has said in his heart there is no God.
You know, you've got to start with some certain level of base knowledge,
and the Bible teaches that it's evident that God exists, and then from there we can understand that the Bible is the written root of God,
and then from there we can make other assertations.
When you're not willing to accept that God exists or the Bible is the word of God, you really have no basis of argumentation.
And there's really not a place that you can really establish any good argument for a discussion,
because for a discussion to happen, you have to both agree on terms.
When we're so abstracted from those, it's impossible to really make headway.
Now, I'm all for having these discussions and trying to convince people of the truth of the Bible and understanding that God exists,
and we need to do that, but that's starting point number one.
I don't think that we're going to necessarily be able to agree on the finer details of the supernatural world that we live in
when we can't even agree if there's a God or not.
That's kind of the starting point of that kind of a conversation.
But I appreciate the questions, because they're important, and it's important to say,
like, how can I believe in Christianity when there's so many bad Christians?
And that's a fair point.
And bad Christians give Christianity a bad name and give the truth a bad name,
and the Bible says that in Jude chapter one.
But that doesn't mean that it's not true just because there's bad Christians.
That would be like us saying the opposite of, like, every Jew must be bad because there's some bad Jews,
and that's not fair either.
We want to be balanced in our worldview and recognize that just because there's a lot of bad actors
doesn't mean everyone's a bad actor.
Just because America's done some horrible, horrible things does not mean that America is all bad
and that everything they've ever done is bad or their heritage is bad.
Why are people moving here if we're so bad?
Like, why do people want to live in America?
Why are we having everybody look up to us?
There's a reason why it's because of the Bible, because of Christianity,
and that's just the fact of the last few hundred years.
So I hope that people can recognize that that's the point I'm trying to make.
No, and I think you did.
And it's worth noting that people have differences of opinions on these kind of things.
And we're talking about, I mean, Dom, for example, talked to, he mentioned people having a code of conduct
independent of religion. I mean, obviously, that has happened, right?
Mankind's been around for a long time.
But I think we should be able to approach these conversations in a way that's respectful
and not interrupting one another and also just keeping the tone very civil.
And I don't know if people have a similar view, but occasionally folks will come up
and they'll just ask things in a really heated kind of fashion, and it's like, whoa, let's slow down,
because when you escalate the tone, it escalates tension, which escalates the animosity or the friction.
It's not productive. So let's try to keep things compassionate and understand that,
especially on topics like religion or ethics, there's going to be tons of room for disagreement.
And it doesn't mean that there's a right or wrong position necessarily on all of these things all of the time.
And I think the pastor has been very, very clear, whether it's talking about ethics or Jews or any of these things,
that it's not always a black and white issue. There's lots of room for gray.
And so I appreciate the tone that he's approached these questions with.
And I would just ask that people kind of give him the same courtesy.
So that being said, let's go over to a familiar face. I see we got John over there.
We actually got two Johns. So let's start with John Salisbury, and then we'll go down to John Persant,
and then we'll go to RGS, and then we'll go down to Taylor, and then we'll go down to Common Sense,
if we'll just raise their hand.
Oh, thank you. And thank you, pastor, so much for coming in.
John, I apologize. I'm going to cycle you because, again, I can't, I don't know why I couldn't hear him,
even though I saw him come off mute. So I'm going to drop you down and bring you back up here, John.
Quick note in there, like the reason that Christian nations have been so successful and prosperous is because
they have a linear code of ethics outlined in the scriptures, where there are gray areas amongst morality
and actually absorbing objective morality with a linear code of ethics is the reason that Western Christian
civilizations and societies have been so prosperous. It's directly related to our prosperity.
And as well being humble, because the most dangerous thing for humanity is power, because it corrupts everyone.
And being humble is one of the main guidelines of the Bible.
Amen. That's a great point.
I think that our founders were humble because you look at George Washington.
He wants to step down after two years because he recognizes that power corrupts everyone.
I think that the limits of federal government, we literally have the three branches of government
trying to limit one another and having balance. I think they're trying to have a limited federal government
and keeping the states in power. They all recognize that man is evil and man is going to corrupt this
and man is going to take over and man is going to cause problems.
I mean, there's a reason why the Constitution literally even says, like, hey, if our government gets so bad,
you have the power and the right to reestablish a new government.
They knew what they were doing.
That's exactly what I wanted to talk about too. Sorry.
Yeah, I mean, they were humble and they recognize this is, you know, governments come and go and they fail.
And the reason why we've been successful is we've provided a high level of accountability.
We had a good infrastructure. But all those things don't matter if you have corrupt people.
And I think those people don't understand, like, if you're not a Christian nation,
it doesn't matter how Christian your laws and your government is set up, it's going to fail.
And so it's not really that our government is bad, like, as far as its structure or its formation
or being a constitutional republic. Like, all of these things are good.
What's bad is having bad people run them. And what's bad is us as a nation having turned from God.
Because look, there's only one God. He loves all of us.
But if we sin against Him and we go against Him, there's a punishment.
And if we want the blessing of God, we have to keep His commandments.
And those commandments clearly come from the Bible. And that's why America was blessed.
It was a nation that was trying their best to follow the commandments as a group of people,
and they were the most blessed. Of course, we have our shortcomings. Of course, we have our failures.
Of course, we've turned away and we have these serious issues.
But we have to humble ourselves again and say,
You know what? It doesn't matter what my personal opinion is or who in my family is affected by this.
I'm going to do whatever the Bible says. And even if it's countercultural, even if it's ugly,
I'm going to seek the truth, and the truth shall make you free truly.
Amen.
Yeah, great comments there. Let's go to John Salisbury.
Hello, good morning, Ian. Can you hear me now?
Excellent. And thank you for this space, and thank you, Pastor.
I'm sitting here riveted to my chair listening.
Very good information, and I hope people will really take heed and listen.
And my question surrounds, I've been doing a lot of studying on Eastern Orthodox religion
and when it split from Western Christianity, and so I'm going to give you some data points here.
And so I'm looking at the Western churches inside America and inside Europe, too,
that are taking massive amounts of money from these non-government organizations
and settling all of these illegal immigrants.
And it's almost like they're conspiring against the population.
And what I'm studying in Eastern Orthodox religion, and the major difference they have
with Western religion, is that they believe man has fallen and man will always be fallen,
and that's what we have to guard against.
And in Western religion, it appears that there's some sort of redemption available for man,
and that man can escape being fallen.
And so I think you kind of get the gist of what I'm studying and what I'm seeing and what I'm troubled by.
Can you comment a little bit on that, about why has Western religion
and the Protestant churches and the Catholic church failed us so badly,
and why have we as Christians allowed the churches to fail us so badly? Does that make sense?
Sure. I think there's a couple things there.
So first, you're kind of addressing, I think, the great schism from the Orthodox and the Catholics,
and let's just be honest, the Orthodox has not really generated a prosperous, good nation.
And again, I'm not saying that at times they haven't had some power and success,
but I'm just saying they're not America.
And there's a reason why America shines brighter is because it's the true religion.
Catholicism, again, was a false religion from its onset,
and it got so corrupt to the point where people were literally selling indulgences.
I mean, you could literally just go to the priest and give him money to commit adultery,
commit horrible sins, and that's not the Bible.
And again, I kind of understand your question a little bit here
about the nuance of Eastern versus Western worldview of, well, man's bad or man's good.
I think that there's plenty of examples in the West where we still also recognize that man is bad
and we need to be careful and provide ourselves accountability.
But I would say this, because the Western influence has had so much false teaching and false prophets,
they only care about one thing, and that's money.
And you don't win a lot of people over, a lot of people don't want to come to your church
when you say, man's bad, you're sinful, you need to quit sinning.
You win people over by saying, you're good, it's fine, and we can excuse sin.
You win them over with indulgences, you win them over with a Joel Osteen, like, I'm for everybody.
And these people just want to build empires to just simply acquire a lot of wealth.
But that message is not representative of true Christianity
and a lot of independent fundamental Baptists that live in America.
We recognize that man's sinful and we're preaching hard against sin.
It's just that this modern evangelical movement and a lot of the Catholics, they want money.
And so, you know, the Pope, hey, I'm accepting of, you know, the LGBTQ.
And he kind of goes back and forth, and it's like, why?
Just because of money, just because of power, just because of influence,
and not because they're tied to the particular scripture.
They don't really care about the truth.
And so, you know, and again, the Greek Orthodox is a little bit more conservative in some ways.
And I've gone to a Greek Orthodox Church.
I've actually taken classes to learn Greek from a guy over there, and I like these people.
But unfortunately, you know, the Greek Orthodox Church also is wrong on doctrine.
They don't subscribe to salvation by faith, and they have their issues.
And I think that, you know, it's arguable that God did punish a lot of them throughout history.
Even the Bolshevik Revolution, which is, I'm not excusing what happened.
I'm not trying to justify it. It was horrible as atrocity. Many innocent people died.
But it could be argued that it might have been a divine judgment of God for Russia
not really subscribing to true Christianity and trying to purge it from its society.
And it's necessary for people to understand the spiritual view of Christianity
before they can really understand some of these world events.
And again, salvation's by faith alone.
These other religions that are, quote, Christian don't believe that.
They believe it's by works.
And that's the battle that's always happened from Cain and Abel all the way till now.
And every religion in the world, whether it's Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, or Catholicism, or modern Protestantism,
teaches salvation is by works, but only the Bible and, you know, mostly just Baptists and evangelicals teach salvation is by faith.
And that is what true Christianity is, is when you believe salvation is putting your faith in what Jesus did.
His death, burn, and resurrection is the only payment for salvation.
And that's the ultimate red pill.
Once you get that truth, it'll really unlock your understanding of the spiritual battle that's going on as well as the physical.
It's just crazy how dumb our society's gotten that we can't even agree on the physical anymore.
We can't even agree on facts of history.
Like, there's just so much misinformation.
The government's been so corrupted.
Like, people just are so confused.
I mean, they did 9-11 in the open, and people don't even know what's going on.
COVID was a huge mass propaganda tool.
So you can see, people can be deceived very easily in large populations.
It's no different with the Catholic Church, the Greek Orthodox Church, and many other churches throughout history,
where they deceive large populations and large groups of people.
And unfortunately, we are sheep, according to the Bible.
We need to be humble and recognize that we're not always very smart.
We don't always know what's best for us, and we're supposed to just trust in what the Bible says.
Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
The Bible's supposed to be the lamp and the light unto our feet.
And so, I really would encourage you to consider what I'm saying,
because the Greek Orthodox Church and the eastern side, they're not on the right side of history.
Yeah, and the reason that I brought the Orthodox Church up,
and you really helped me focus the crux of what I'm trying to ask you,
is not that I'm thinking, oh, well, the Orthodox Church has the mousetrap that we need.
It's more, I'm studying that our faith-based system was community-based before the Federal Reserve,
and before the World Wars, and all this.
And it's what really made the economic engine of America, right,
was these faith-based communities that were depending on each other to help pull each other at us in,
profess our faith, keep on the good road, and it seems like we've lost that.
And so, I'm trying to figure out how do we get back to these faith-based communities
that espouse exactly what you've been talking about this morning,
and bring ourselves back to where we're not getting fooled,
we're not being sheep to the slaughter for this world order that's trying to realign the entire society,
our culture, our values, our beliefs.
I guess that's really what my question is, is more, we know what the hammer is,
and they're hammering it with us, but how do we get out from under that hammer now?
Right, and that's the great question.
And let's be honest, in times past, the church was part of the community, whether you liked it or not,
because it's a social aspect, so many people that weren't even Christian are just going to church
just to do business, make relationships, have fellowship, have a social life,
and because of social media, because of transportation increase, because of feminism being brought in,
you have a less dependence on church.
And you know, Chick-fil-A still closed on Sunday, but it used to be every business was closed on Sunday.
Everybody respected church, everybody had to go to church, and it was part of society,
but as they kind of walked away, and the pursuit of gain and the pursuit of money,
and you have just a generosity being brought in, that's where you kind of see the loss of the power
and the influence that the church had of that community.
And so, you know, again, the answer is difficult. It's not hard to know what to do, it's hard to do it.
People have to humble themselves and say, you know what, I need church in the Bible.
And the problem is people don't like church and they don't like the Bible.
And, you know, unfortunately we have to get a large percentage of the people to just learn a lot.
People just don't know very much at all. Our education system is a complete failure, it's a complete joke.
And that's why I'm also trying my hardest to do stuff outside the pulpit, because I'm like,
people just need to learn a little bit of history. People need to learn how to read.
People need to be recommended books. Our education system is so poor today.
And it's like, people need more information. My kids are homeschooled.
People should be homeschooling their children and teaching the Bible and taking them to church.
And we have to get back to it. There was times in Judah's history and Israel's history
where they had gotten really far away from God and it was really bad.
But as soon as they went back to the Bible and said, we're just going to do whatever it says,
and they start going back to church, God blesses them again.
And that is the only solution for America. It's not Donald Trump. It's not the Republican Party.
And again, I'm not against these individuals. Obviously, voting for a Democrat is voting for Satan.
But I'm saying that the Republicans aren't going to save us.
Only the King James Bible and only going back to Christianity will we thrive as a nation.
And we are very post-Christian and we're in a downward spiral.
But I do believe there's hope because I do believe that a lot of people are waking up.
COVID kind of woke a lot of people up.
And I think that a lot of people are waking up on the power and influence that the JQ has with the censorship.
But the question is, are we going to continue down that true seeking path?
Or are we going to just say, it's all bad, I just give up? Because that's what they want us to do.
They want people to feel like it's so hopeless and so bad that we can never make a change that everybody just gives up.
And we can't give up for our children, for our grandchildren, and for the lost.
We have to continue to fight, and we have to continue to educate, and we have to continue to pray,
and we have to continue to go to church and read the Bible and have these one-on-one conversations.
And, you know, hey, I'm grateful we have a space today where I'm given an opportunity to talk to a lot of you people and talk with you guys.
And, you know, I hope that I'm not trying to come across as like a know-it-all or something like that, because I certainly am not.
I just feel very passionate about these subjects, and I feel like I was misled and very deceived, and I didn't know very much.
And I just want people to learn a lot of things that I've seen, a lot of things that I've read.
And I hope that we can all continue learning and continue growing, because there's so much to know.
But, you know, when it comes to the most important things, those have been established.
It's the Bible, and we really need to get back to it.
So, I hope that maybe that can answer your question a little bit.
But, again, I always say this, it's not always hard to know what to do, it's hard to do it.
Amen, Pastor. You did answer my question, and it is so important.
Everything you're saying is so controversial today.
Getting people, like you said, you get banned off Twitter, you get banned off Facebook, you get banned off social media.
For making the controversial statements that we have to get back to God, we have to get our children back to God.
We have to rebuild our communities in the image of faith and lashing together our common values to where we can stand us in.
And you just don't hear that anymore in any popular media or educational system that services the children of America.
And it's so refreshing to hear you say that. Thank you, I'll shut my mouth now, but yes, I 100% agree with exactly what you just said.
Great point. It's almost like there's a group of people that control the media that don't want this information to get out there.
100%. Thank you so much.
That's just a conspiracy theory, guys. Come on.
That's just stories, Scott.
Just stories. Well, perfect. I know we got some other hands up. I see RGS.
I think John Person had his hand up, if I'm not mistaken.
OK, there he is. Yeah, let's go to John Person, then we'll go to, I believe, RGS.
OK, can you hear me OK? Sounds good.
OK, good. Yeah, nice to meet you. I did follow you.
John, I apologize. I'm going to have to cycle you again.
This is crazy. Were you able to hear him? Yeah, I always I always can, but I don't know why you're just here.
It's weird. So weird. All right, let me bring him back up. Sorry about that, John.
All right. Go for it, John. OK, can you hear me now? Sounds good to me. Yep, sure can. OK, good.
Yeah. So nice to meet you, Pastor. I did give you a follow. You can follow me back.
I think you and I can exchange some messages and some scripture and do some iron sharpened iron.
I appreciate a lot of the things that you mentioned.
I mean, just again, incredible. I mean, and welcome to the war, right?
I just found out as an empty nester of five kids that I'm no longer eligible for I-9 or W-2 employment because I've been politically active.
I've even run for state rep back in 2008. So the bottom line is they already have the no fly list out there for employment for people that are going to, quote unquote, rebuff the government or whatever it is we're doing.
I appreciate what you said about the Catholic Church being false. I mean, it's right there in Jeremiah 44 about baking cakes to the Queen of Heaven.
It's Nimrod, Genesis chapter 10. It's right there. So, and again, not to be a black pillar, but don't anybody put any hope in Stu Peters, the power of Stu Peters to help us win the war because, I mean, he lauds Putin's Russian Orthodox churches.
So if you go and look at Putin at church, all you see is the mother-child cult all over that thing. So again, that's another false, you know, arm of Christianity.
Just so you know, because it sounds to me like you and I are cut from the same cloth, I was in a fundamental, independent, separated Baptist church and every time the doors were open, I was in there Wednesday morning, Wednesday night, Sunday morning, Sunday night having the 1611 King James Bible poured into me.
But when 9-11 happened, I went to all those gray-haired deacons and I said, there's no 60-ton 757 at the Pentagon. And they all just went, you know what, you're a guy making $12 an hour with five kids, you haven't got a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of.
And that's how they judged me. And that's how they dismissed me. So God moved me out of the church and I've been, you know, fulfilling the Christian test. How do you know they're fruit? They continue in my word.
So this discussion, again, it's about the Bible. All of the people that are worked up and anxious and worried about the future of America or this land or whatever, communism, whatever it is, most of these people are of a Christian bent.
But as you correctly said, they don't know the Scriptures. They don't know them. And now that, and I talked to Ian behind the scenes in DMs, this whole thing with the Nazi LARPing that's going on, these people think that there's power in resurrecting 1930s racial Germany without having an honest discussion going, Germany lost.
The moneyed powers of the same people, the money changes that Jesus took a whip to in the temple. These same people hired the United States to go and pound Germany into the ground and white people once again killed white people. This is how they do it.
So again, correct view of history, the Abrahamic religions, et cetera. There's no discussion about Jews and there's no discussion about Israel if there's not the Scriptures. Where does that stuff come from? It comes out of the Scriptures. So, I mean, again, like you said, we are created beings. There is a Creator.
So yeah, let me quickly roll through some other points though. What I've been running into now for two decades, I just got kicked out for public broadcasting a year ago because I wouldn't be a Trump-tard. I mean, I had people just sitting there telling me, I don't care if Trump is the chief Rabbi, my life was never better. The Americans vote with their wallet. That's how we ended up here. The love of money is the root of all evil.
And since the Federal Reserve has blown up a credit balloon now for almost 100 years and we're $35 trillion in debt, all people care about is they think there's security and money. I'm a Hebrews 13-5 guy. Be content with such things as you have. I'm only promised food and raiment in this life and nothing else. And I've been given it. So I'm not going to complain about not having, you know, being in the rat race and having a half a million dollar house and driving a, you know what I'm saying?
But what I run into is these people who, they don't want the rule of law, which is what you're talking about, the commandments. They don't want the rule of law, they just want to rule. It's this, again, the spirit of moral relativism that is driving this country off the bus.
So, like I said, again, the Christian test, do the people continue in the Word? I believe the founders told us, obviously, you can read all their writings, you're talking about John Adams. If America does not obey the laws of nature and nature's God, we're going to lose the entire foundation and the whole building that sits on top of it. It's quite obvious.
Like you were saying, the false professing Christian church, these are the people that are saying, we don't care about the laws, the refugees are welcome. They're also the ones hanging the pride flag saying, love the sinner, hate the sin. I'm sorry, did Sodom and Gomorrah happen or not? I believe it did happen, absolutely.
And I believe the United States of America will actually suffer a Dresden attack in World War III if we don't get rid of this thing, because you know the story in Genesis. Could God find 50 righteous people in the land? 45, 40, 30, 20! Could he find 10 righteous people in the land to withhold judgment? No, he couldn't.
And then he told Lot to get out, and Lot's wife did what? Oh, my Mercedes is in the garage, and she looked back and turned into a pair of her stuff. These people worship, they serve temporal pleasures, like again, they serve money, and I mean, that's it. That's exactly where all the moral relativism, and the problem is, as you mentioned before, you know in Matthew 13, a little leaven, leaveneth the whole lump.
You know, it's rat poison. Rat poison is 1% poison. It's 99% good food. So, it's all this feel-good pseudo-Christianity crap in the Republican Party. I mean, they just embraced the pride flag at the Republican convention.
I mean, you know, even Tucker Carlson, before he left Fox, I have a 35-second clip of him saying, Gerald Ford was installed because he was on the Warren Commission that absolved the CIA of Kennedy's murder.
So, we haven't had a ballot box in this country since I was four years old. And right now, again, it's all just a CIA script. And the people, like you're saying, the Christian people have to get back in the Word so that they understand the Babylonian captivity, so that they understand the deliverance.
I mean, again, you're talking about it. It goes right back to the book of Acts. It's just a cycle of history. These people, the scribes, Pharisees, and Sadducees that Jesus called all kinds of names in Matthew 23, did nothing but chase and try to kill the disciples.
Going all the way back to the first century, we've been in the last days since Christ ascended. It's no new thing under the sun. But if the people don't understand how they're being, again, Jude chapter 1, right?
We have to preach the faith once delivered to the saints because certain men have crept in unawares, given them a false gospel, given them a false Jesus, if you want to go there, that's Revelation 13.
The second beast told man to make an image of the beast that suffered a deadly wound and yet lived. Who suffered a deadly wound and yet lived? Christ!
Well, they've made it, man has made an image of Christ, and this is what all these people going into false Christian churches are worshiping. They're not worshiping the Christ who ascended. He rose from the dead. They're not worshiping. They're worshiping an image made by man.
And if the people don't get in the Word, they don't see this. So, again, I appreciate your ministry. I mean, look, America's going to go into a house, we're going to go into a house church situation, folks.
People like me and band pastor here that know the Word and are trying to get the Christians away from fighting this in the arm of the flesh or the secular war, this is God's battle.
This is Gideon's army, okay? This is 300 out of 32,000 that are going to fight in that day because they keep their eye on the enemy. It's not going to be nickels, noses, and numbers. It never was nickels, noses, and numbers.
Our American forefathers were outnumbered and outgunned grossly. And yet, God delivered this nation for a purpose and now, once again, after some 200 years, we've fallen back into sin, we've fallen back into serving money, and we just can't believe America's now been enveloped into global communism. We just can't believe it.
Well, look at it. You can't cut down a tree on your property without a government permit. If you don't pay your property taxes, after you pay off your mortgage, they'll just take your house. Folks, you're already under the communism. It's in your face and you're going, no, no.
Obviously, our country is a lot more communist than people can realize readily. I want to address a few things that you brought up here.
Go ahead, man. Thanks.
Number one.
Hey, Ian. Do you mind? I've got 1% on my phone. I'll make it real quick. About us falling and stuff like that, we're not under our original constitution. And just hear me out. The Jesuits, after the Revolutionary War, we were broke. We had too much money given to us and we had to sign a new constitution.
A second secret constitution. We are not under a republic anymore. And I'll leave it at that.
So I want to comment on some of the things you brought up, Jon. Number one, I don't think we should put our trust or confidence in any person, even if they were a great person.
You brought up Stu Peters. And here's the thing. Obviously, there's things I probably disagree with Stu Peters on. But I like some of the things that he does. I like the Died Suddenly documentary. I thought it was a really good documentary.
And the occupied film that I've seen the trailer for, it looks really interesting and engaging. And at least he's willing to have some conversations with people that I appreciate that he's willing to platform.
And real quick band on that, I just wanted to comment. I don't know if everybody saw this announcement, but he also just set aside three two-hour time slots a week going forward to Zach Logos, who I often have as a co-host up here.
And I've spent a lot of time. I've watched Zach go from under a thousand subs to I think he's now up to something like eight or nine thousand, maybe more on X. He also has a show on Rumble.
He is as sincere and legit as they come. I really feel like I've vetted him because I connected with him long before a lot of his prominence here.
And Stu just gave him that time slot. And that alone speaks volumes to me. I can't say about Stu. I don't know him intimately. But from what I know of Zach and have seen over the last couple of months, he's a wonderful voice on this matter.
And I don't think Stu, if he was a subversive, would allow somebody like that to get even more exposure because that goes straight for the jugular on these issues that are the most taboo.
So I'm giving a plug to Stu. I don't know the guy, but that in and of itself is a huge reflection to me. And just a plug for Zach who I'll put up in the nest in case anybody doesn't follow him.
Yeah, and I mean, just here's, here's my viewpoint is that someone that's not attacking me is is someone that's, you know, kind of, I want to at least leverage our commonality and influence them for the better. So, of course, the people that I disagree with, I still can like those people and have civil conversations with them. But I'm trying to win them over with, you know, what I believe in what I think is true and sincere.
And I'm sure in this conversation, most people in this room, if not all of them probably disagree with me on something, maybe in major, but you know, my goal is to influence them and and to try and help them understand the truth.
And, you know, when it comes to, you know, the judgment of America, because you kind of brought up like Sodom and Gomorrah, obviously, there must be 10 people holding back San Francisco from being nuked off the planet because you're totally right on that point.
And, you know, if you study Pompeii, this is post New Testament. Pompeii was a literal Sodom. And it was it was so bad. Pompeii is a very interesting place you should study but Pompeii had become so degenerate that literally, they had male genitalia engraved in every business.
So you like at first when they were excavating this and looking from the archaeological evidence, they found a building and had like male genitalia as the doorknob as like everything and they thought this is a brothel.
And but then they kept excavating they realize like every building was like this and they realized the first building was actually a bank. And this is kind of like where we're headed where we have this rainbow flag on like every single one of these businesses and institutions that it could get way worse,
it could get to a point where they're literally promoting this kind of filth in a very provocative way. And if we ever got to that point, God might just literally nuke us off of the planet.
Because whether you like the Bible or not, or like the God of the Bible, He is going to judge people when they send that grievously. And with our abortion and with the sodomy and all this weird stuff that we're doing, God can't just allow that to go unpunished.
And so it's very important to turn back to the Lord. And you know, I can be sympathetic to the fact that some churches just aren't very good. And even in the IFP world, there's plenty of churches that I wouldn't go to.
But I don't think that we should get away from church. And I want to clarify something you brought up this house church movement idea. There's nothing wrong with a church meeting in a house.
But I don't really like the house church movement. Because by and large, they're very anti-bishops, elders, and they're against organizational structure.
And I think that people should still be trying to grow their churches and have a large influence and movement. There's nothing wrong with a large church. It's just that a lot of the large churches have sacrificed doctrinal integrity to grow.
And that's wrong. We should only grow if we're actually reaching people and keeping doctrinal integrity intact.
And so, you know, there have been great churches in the past. J. Frank Norris in the Dallas, Fort Worth area had a big, independent Baptist church. Jack Hyles was actually one of the largest churches in America at one point in history.
Great guys. Not perfect, but really stood for the gospel and made a big impact in the world. And you know, I hope that we could have some churches like that again today.
And you know, even if people don't come to my church or have the exact same faith as me, I still want to influence them for the better, give them some truth, get them saved.
And, you know, to me, we should earnestly contend for the faith by going out into the marketplace of ideas and having these conversations.
And, you know, even people that are doing bad things or making bad decisions, or we call them, quote, controlled opposition.
I think everybody's a little bit controlled opposition because they allow money and these things to influence them to some degree.
And I think instead of just calling all these people out and saying everybody's fake and everybody's a grifter and everybody's CIA and everybody's a Fed and everybody's bad, like, we should give people the benefit of the doubt and leverage the conversations we can have with them to influence them.
And when we find someone's a true bad actor, like a Ben Shapiro or something, then we say, okay, let's avoid this person for now, because they've kind of shown their true colors.
They don't have, you know, the Bible's best interest. They don't have Christians' best interest. They don't have America's best interest.
But, you know, I think that there's a lot of people like Alex Jones, Stu Peters, these people that, sure, do they have some things wrong? Have they done things that I don't necessarily agree with?
Yeah, but they've also done some good things and they empower certain voices that I think could actually make a difference.
And, you know, I hope that they continue to do so. And I hope that we can continue to use their platforms and use the opportunities that they give to reach people with the ultimate truth.
And real quick on that, one thing I'd add, and I've been very critical of Alex Jones. There was a little while where almost everything he would put up that would kind of come close to the sun, it was like Icarus, right?
He would get close to naming the root, but never do it. And I would often troll him and just say like, hey, I noticed you didn't mention X, Y, or Z.
And then I'd point out that his current wife and ex-wife, and as a result, his children are all Jewish. And isn't that a strange coincidence?
But I bring that up because Alex Jones has a massive audience. He hits millions and millions of eyeballs. And if we can even get him close to the sun, it allows us to kind of go that extra little mile to connect the last dot and to try and bring in individuals.
And so while, like I said, I control him from time to time for not necessarily connecting that last piece, but it at least gets us close.
And so, Pastor, I couldn't agree with you more that we have to look at the voices that are at least doing something to try and advance the cause, and we have to be thankful that we at least have them.
Because especially as things are going, when it comes to controlling speech, we see that we're rapidly getting reined in on what we can discuss.
And while we have, like Sam Parker always says, while the sun's up, let's make as much hay as we can on this issue.
And those voices that are out there, whether it's Tucker, Stu, Alex Jones, et cetera, like at least they're getting close. Same thing with Candace Owens, for what it's worth.
Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. Some of these people, I would say like, oh, man, I disagree with a lot of things they're doing or even their life choices in some cases.
But like, I want to win them over and focus on the things that we agree on as some level of conversation starter and then allow that to influence them because people are complex.
People have a life, they have a family, they have a history, they have influences, you know.
And so like, I think we could be a little bit sympathetic to the fact that people are complex, they have difficult situations, and 99% of the time we don't even understand why they're making the decisions they're making.
We don't have all the pieces of information. We don't know everything that's going on. We don't really know what's necessarily rattling in their brain.
And I think that if we try in meekness to, the Bible says in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves, you know.
And so sometimes people are hurting themselves and making bad decisions and allowing themselves to be controlled and trying to come alongside those people and trying to help them and say like, hey, look, good point here, but you know, you're wrong on this.
Or why aren't you naming this person? Or why don't we talk about this? Or, you know, having these conversations.
And I think that that's important. I don't want to just isolate myself into an echo chamber, because it's very easy for me and my faith to do that.
Independent Feral Baptists, we're very separated. We like to be very purist and think that we're kind of special.
And again, there's a time for church and to be called out, and the Bible tells us not to be ecumenical in that regard.
But I think that we still need to go out in the world and engage the world and have these conversations and talk about them.
I'm not afraid of any topic or subject, because, you know, I believe that the Bible is true and it's right.
And when we really look at the facts, it starts to become very obvious what the truth is.
So I appreciate your comments, though, John. And again, I'm not I wasn't sure what you meant on the house church movement.
I just wanted to say that, you know, I'm very pro building churches and having those those institutions as God, you know, wants us because the church is the pillar and ground of the truth.
The pillar and ground of the truth, according to First Timothy chapter three. So we need church.
And I believe that we need strong leaders and moral leaders and courageous leaders.
And, you know, I have some friends that I highly respect. Pastor Stephen Anderson, great person to follow.
You need to see his information. He's made some great films. Pastor Roger Jimenez.
And I'm not going to name all of them, but some some great men, some great leaders.
The YouTube policy of banning was like literally written because of Pastor Roger Jimenez.
So, like, they literally quoted his sermon and that was their initial, like, major purge of accounts on YouTube.
And so, you know, these guys, while they may not be well known to everyone, they are definitely known by the the power brokers and the individuals that want to censor this information.
And so, you know, I hope that we can continue to leverage. I mean, look, do I like what Tucker did to Stu Peters recently?
No. It was dumb. It was a bad decision. It shows that he's being controlled greatly.
But if Tucker said, hey, you want to come on the show and talk about something?
I would do it in a heartbeat because, you know, I would like I want to reach more people with the truth of the gospel.
And, you know, I think that even if these people even if they were in bad faith, let's come alongside them, argue with them,
argue with them, talk about things and, you know, get the information out there because what the enemy doesn't want is the truth to ever get out.
You know, so we need to just keep talking about it, bringing it up and and and making it clear what the Bible says on these issues.
Thanks. Thanks for your comments, John.
Is it cool? Is it cool if I go faster and let's go. We'll go back to John Salisbury.
I know he's got his hand up, but but before we do, let's go through RGS, Dr. Strange, JJ.
And then we've also got you. Can I respond real quick? Yeah, go for it.
And then and then the only thing that I would ask is, as we kind of go through, just because we're getting short on time, if we could just try to keep everybody's comments maybe a little bit tightened up, that'd be awesome.
Yeah, no, I just, I want to respond so you understand what I meant by house church. You know the history of church split after church split after church split after church split.
So again, Martin Luther, the indulgences, boom, big split number one, right? And now it's got all the way down to this.
I did, since I moved to where I'm at, I did go down to the Baptist church half a mile from my house and I sat down with the pastor and told him, I will not have my kids die for the political state of Israel that was created after Team Stalin communism won World War II.
That political state over there is not Bible prophecy. It's a creation of man and it has its religious tenets which they use to badger Christians saying we need to go die for that cause or God will be disappointed in us.
All I'm warning people, and again, if I go to these other Christian assemblies, these Christian churches, and I go, let's discuss this scripture, and they just, the pastor asserts his authority over me and he's got his master's degree from Tennessee Temple or whatever it is, I'm not intimidated, I will not move.
And he's going to say, well, you're not welcome here. So again, what I mean by house church is that the closer we get to the truth, the more that they're just going to whack-a-mole us.
And what I'm saying with a guy like Stu Peters or Candace Owens and all these names, I saw Stu Peters tweet that out, mention Jake Shields. I wanted to J, I wanted to J-pill Jake Shields. I had an opportunity to do so.
He said that he was coming to Nashville to visit when I lived there and he said, does anybody know this, that, and the other, a place to hike? And I said, I know a place to hike. We'll go on a five-mile hike.
And he just got swept away with, you know, people paying $10,000 for an appearance or something in Brentwood, Tennessee, so he goes there. But he got J-pilled right after that.
Well, now he's with SNCCO and he's promoting Nick Fuentes and it's like, would a Jake Shields, would a Stu Peters give me as articulate or persuasive, would they give me an opportunity?
What I'm saying is we can't mix iron and clay, right? That's the bottom of Daniel's statue, okay? We can't mix iron and clay because it's weak. It will not coagulate and the whole statue on top of it is going to come down.
So what I'm saying is some of these giant microphones have been selected, they've been paid, and like I said, it's the rat poison. It's the 1% poison that kills the rat despite the 99% truth.
And some of us can see the truth. And again, it's not about me going to war with Stu Peters. I'm happy that we move forward back to the Bill of Rights or back to constitutional government.
But guys, the ship's already sailed. This government is completely lawless. It's absolutely lawless. And we were born into it, the Federal Reserve System. This is not our fault. This was done before we got here.
But here we are compelled to fight against it, yet we see the Leviathan, George Washington, we see the Leviathan's size of the evil government.
So it's a scary proposition to go up against it, and we need God's hand. God has got to lead us in this battle, and if anybody wants nothing to do with the Scriptures or God or Christ, well then there's no conversation there.
We have to continue to fight, and they're going to have to learn some hard lessons. Thank you, Ian, for the microphone. Nice to meet you, band. I hope you and I can talk off in other venues. Thanks.
Thank you, John, for sharing that. I really appreciate it. Let's go to RGS, a familiar face. Then we'll go to Common Senseable and Dr. Strange. And RGS, like I said, if we could just try to keep some of these a little quick, that'd be awesome.
No, I'll be quick. Can you guys hear me all right?
Yep, sure can.
Oh, I thought you said RG. My bad, man.
The Scofield Bible came out in 1913, 1912, somewhere around there, and it rewrote a lot of the Gospel, a lot of the Bible. And how do we get away from the Scofield Bible back to the King James?
And second, you were talking about the U.S. specifically being part of a covenant with God and having God's grace when it first began. And I believe Hebrews 8 through 10 really talk about the New Covenant.
But if you can just quote on those, I would really appreciate that, because I think people are misinformed about the Bibles we actually have being the Scofield Bible, the most popular. But I do believe in the King James, so thank you for that.
Yeah, thanks for your comments. Again, I made a movie, The Preserved Bible. You can watch it for free online, preservedbible.com. It talks about the history of the Bible. I think just understanding where the Bible comes from, hopefully that would cause people to never use a Scofield.
Scofield greatly influenced a lot of seminary preachers and brought in kind of an ideology of Zionism and kind of made it more popular. I think really, I mean, the cure to dismantling this is just preaching what the Bible says, because you can't hardly even drop the Bible open and not find a passage that's basically talking about how the Jews are subversive, evil, not following God's commandments.
I mean, Jesus just in every part of the gospel is just like ripping on Jews. And again, that's not to say that they're inherently bad because of their ethnicity or something, but just talking about this group of people, it's how in the world can you then reconcile with this idea that they're these special, magical people, and they should just be in this land of 1948 Israel? Like, it's just, the narrative falls apart very quickly in the New Testament.
I think that their movement's dying, and I'm doing my best to try and talk about Zionism a lot and bring it to the forefront, but I think we have to have those conversations. We have to recognize what the Bible says on the Jewish subject.
And, you know, 1 Thessalonians chapter 2 is a great passage because it says that the Jews killed Jesus and that they're contrary to all men. You know, like, how do you get away from that passage? I mean, these aren't, like, people that we wonder if they're Jews or not. They're for sure Jews. The Bible's talking about them, and so, you know, I think that we need people to just start reading again and hearing the message of the King James Bible, and I think that they'll resonate with it.
When you talk about the second part of your question, I wasn't sure if I understood the question as far as, can you restate that again? Like, I just want to make sure I understood what you were asking. Can you hear me, R.G.S.?
R.G.S., are you still there, brother?
Well, while we wait for him, let's go to the next hand. I think that was a pretty good answer for some of that, Vanden. I can't recall the second part as well, but let's go. I know Common Sensible had his hand up, and then we'll go down to Dr. Strange and then J.J., and then we'll come back to John Salisbury for a final question.
Can you hear me? I just wanted to make sure. I'm not like one of those people. I sure can. Okay, I just wanted to make sure. No, thank you for asking.
So, I was just going to make this kind of brief. You know, this is mainly covering the topic that somebody brought up earlier. You know, they were talking about with band pastor, about religion and agnosticism and everything else like that.
You know, I used to think from an agnostic and atheistic perspective in the past. Honestly, you end up finding out the only reason you're even able to believe the idea of this idea of objective morality that you have is because you've been raised and brought up in a Christian society, one way or another.
That's not to ignore the hyper individualistic nature that a lot of Jewish propaganda has created, especially materialistic things. But ultimately, religion plays an absolute fundamental role in societies in creating an ethical and moral guideline that creates structure, stability, and thriving communities.
And the way we really can differentiate between moral relativism and objective morality is what has been tried and done. And the one thing I can say about Christianity and the Bible, despite it having a very concurrent story, compared to many other religions that I very much agree on like C.S. Lewis and how he came to Christianity, which if nobody knows that, you know, I recommend looking up C.S. Lewis and his story. He once was agnostic and atheistic as well.
But beyond that is no matter where you implement Christianity or live by Bible principles, like if you were to implement all the principles of the Bible, it will almost always it will give you the highest probability and highest chance of creating a thriving community and a thriving nation and a thriving neighborhood and a thriving family with
actual unity and stability, with the most personal freedom that a religion can give. You know, you look at a lot of other religions, a lot more, a lot more suppressive.
But Christianity actually has a lot more personal freedom and with that still a strong sense of community and a still a strong sense of family and still a strong sense of understanding the stability factors needed to create a strong nation, a strong people and a strong community.
And that's all I really wanted to say. I mean, the agnostic and atheistic stuff, I strongly feel like we'll look at it from 100 years from now and we will just be like, this was stupid of us. It only created a hyper individualistic society that was bent on materialism that only ended up self-destructing itself.
That's all I would like to make on this, because I appreciate that you can at least be objective and notice reality that the Bible is the most successful plan of life. But I would hope that you'd go beyond just say it's just because it's true. That's the reason why.
I do believe that, but I try not to argue all the time from saying, well, it's because I believe it's true, because I think some of these agnostic, atheistic people, they haven't gotten there yet. So it's like, listen, dude, I can just tell you logically that it makes sense.
And that's why I kind of recommended the story of C.S. Lewis, because that's how he actually came to it, is he came to it over time through logical discussions with like Tolkien and other individuals that he went to Oxford University with.
Yeah, in the pursuit of truth, I think you'll find that. And, you know, to me, if atheism was true, I think the worst thing you could ever do is convince anybody else that it's true. Because if atheism is true, then the strongest are going to survive. And there's no reason why your neighbor wouldn't kill you, steal from you, rip you off, murder you, rape you. So it's like convincing other people that atheism is true would be the worst thing you could ever want.
If you're truly if atheism was true, and you believed it, you would want everyone else to be subdued by religion. And so it's actually a self defeating religion in a sense. And so it's it's it's kind of crazy. There's no point in convincing people that atheism is true. If you believe that it's true. It would it would literally be the worst thing you could do. You'd want everybody else to not have this secret special knowledge, because the survival of the fittest is going to win. And so atheism is a completely self refuting ideology.
It's, it's, it's, it's, it just makes you look stupid, kind of because the Bible says the fool has said in his heart, there is no God. And we've all made stupid decisions we've done, and thought dumb things. But, you know, people need to recognize God is evident. And, and that's a good starting point, and then recognizing that the Bible is true. So appreciate your comments.
Yeah, yeah, just to comment on that, too, real quick is just agnosticism, atheism, it helps breed this hyper individualism that puts you above everything else. And I think you're just, again, a fool, if you think you're more important than than your neighbor, and then your children, then your spouse, then your nation, I think you're an absolute fool. And you only help lead to the self destructive nature of a society. I mean, one of the best things about Christianity.
And just in general, that religion can do is it is it intrinsic, it intrinsically provides a sense of duty, and a sense of purpose. And what is your purpose in an atheistic agnostic world to live your best, your best self? Like, like, what is that other than self serving? Yeah, you become lovers of, you know, I think this goes directly to Titus, right? Where it talks about how or maybe it was second Timothy, where people become lovers of themselves.
Yep. Secondly, three, you're right. Yeah, second Timothy.
And that's the ratification of the room. I heard someone earlier say he was agnostic, and then later said, but I believe in a creator. You know, agnosticism, by definition, is saying that you don't believe or disbelieve in a creator. So you're not agnostic, if you believe that there's a God, you know, naturally, atheism doesn't even truly exist, I would say.
So just, just to clarify on that, like agnosticism doesn't go hand in hand with belief in a God. You know, it's a misnomer.
I think what it truly is, is it's a lot of people that that spout these ideas, because because of the hyper individualism of today, they don't want to have something to tell them what they can't do. People want to be free of criticism, they want to be free of shame, they want to be free of this guilt that might be on them.
So the best way for a lot of these individuals in today's society is to just reject responsibility and say, you can't judge me, you can't do this, you can't say any of this. And it's like, no, I'm sorry, there are things like righteous judgment, there are things that are critical to to understanding that you have to be guilty for.
You know, if you hurt somebody, like whether it's your children or something else like that, you need to be held responsible, whether it's spiritually or whether, like, mentally or whether in some other way, like that, like, you and not to just mention that, but you're responsible for other people to your behaviors, your actions, you know, if you lead somebody else astray, if you lead somebody else to do something wrong.
You're responsible in some way to that.
It's true. Thanks for your comments.
I think that's pretty sure is in in in or still in there.
I am. Yeah. And let's let's go to to Dr. Strange and then we'll go JJ sloveness who hasn't gotten a chance to speak and then we'll go up to John Salisbury for a last question.
What's going on, Dr. Strange?
Hi, folks. In the civil, intellectual and academic way window at hominins and labels, man, this is going to go so far ahead.
And I urge everybody to follow his approach because we can do so much good the way he tackles these stuff.
With that said, Pastor, I'm really sorry to hear for what you've gone through and the way they banned you and tried canceling you.
And I think, you know full well, I don't know your personal details story, but I know full well that so long as you're standing on the truth and justice, God is with you.
And I applaud your courage. So I really appreciate what you've done.
Now, I had two quick questions. One, you were speaking with Dom earlier when you said you referenced the Bible verse related to humans having innate goodness in them.
Can you provide me that Bible verse?
Sure. I want to make it clear that I was saying in Romans, chapter number two, it's not really innate goodness.
It's just the law is written on our hearts. So we just have a conscience so we understand right from wrong.
That doesn't make us necessarily good, it just helps us understand like what is good and what is bad.
So it's Romans chapter number two, verses 14 through 15 is what I had read earlier.
Chapter number two you said?
Yeah, Romans chapter two, verses 14 through 15.
And it just describes how, it's kind of contrasting Jews and Gentiles, but it's describing how us, no matter if you were raised Christian or not, whether you've ever heard the Bible or not, you just know rape's wrong.
You just know stealing's wrong. And it doesn't mean that people don't sin still. It doesn't mean they don't still lie and do it.
It's just inside you feel bad when you lie. Inside you feel bad when you steal. And everybody feels that way when they're a child.
And of course the Bible does describe some people get to a point where they reject God so much they can have a seared conscience and they get to a point where they don't even feel bad anymore if they steal, lie.
And it's very necessary in war, in war times, to convince the soldiers that the other side is a subhuman species in order to like convince them to actually want to just murder and slaughter them the way that many wars have gone down.
And so you'll actually notice, whether it's World War II, World War I, it doesn't matter, in these war efforts that they try to really dehumanize the other side.
And again, that's why I believe the religion of Talmudic Judaism, it's important to understand that they dehumanize Gentiles to make it seem justified that they can rip them off through usury.
They can promote all kinds of filth, isms, whether that's atheism, Marxism, communism, all these different things, and do horrible atrocities because they look at us like an animal.
And I mean, here's the thing, we slaughter animals like it's nothing and eat their food and it's good.
Like, you know, I eat a steak every day and I feel good, not every day, but every day I eat a steak, I'm like, I have no guilt about the fact that an animal is slaughtered because it is an animal.
I'm not saying we should treat animals poorly, I'm not saying that we should be mean to them, but they are simply different than a human.
And it's necessary for people to have to dehumanize other humans because of that innate conscience that we all have, and we have that innate responsibility.
And we're going to be judged by that. We're going to be judged by, since we do know right from wrong, how did you respond to that?
Now, ultimately, that doesn't get you into heaven or hell, because we've all sinned.
So the Bible says that we have to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and accept his atonement for our sin.
That's what actually gets us entrance into heaven. But we will face consequences in this earth based on our action, and if you just do horrible, evil things, God will punish you.
In fact, the first commandment with promise is to honor thy father and thy mother, and that's what actually gives us a long life.
So the more obedient you are to your parents, the longer life you're going to live, and that's just a reality.
Everybody wants to think it's about microplastics and foods and genetically modified organisms and all this stuff, and I'm not against warning people about that.
And I think there is a lot of contaminants in our food, and I think there's a lot of horrible things that people are doing, and I think we should stand up against them.
But honestly, people are going to live a long life because they follow God's commandments, not because they avoided all the horrible things that they're putting in our food.
And so I think so many people are so hyper-focused on the carnality aspect.
I appreciate that. I mean, this is music to my ears. So I embraced Islam a long time ago, and they have the same concept that you just mentioned about knowing that right from wrong.
It's in chapter 30, verse 30, where they speak about this.
In addition, I want to make a small correction regarding Islam, believing in good works versus faith.
Actually, it's both. You can't have one without the other in Islam. Without faith, your good works are not worth much.
There is some nuance around it, but it's really both that you need.
And lastly, I'm really interested in better understanding Christian theology, especially what you said about success in this world and how you correlated it to being on the right path.
You gave the example of Christian orthodoxy in the East, and then you compared it with the US and the US's success.
If you can provide me some additional information on that, I'd appreciate it. You don't have to do that now. I've followed you.
If you can send me some information via text or DM, I'd really appreciate it.
And I hold periodic spaces to promote better understanding of Christianity and Islam to the general public, which includes Muslims and Christians.
I'd love to have you be part of that, especially on these specific topics, because I think there's so much we can learn.
The more I've learned about Christianity, the better appreciation I've had for it.
Sadly enough, there is a lack of understanding amongst these different faiths, and there are many similarities, yet also differences.
Thank you so much for hosting this space. I'll end with that, but I appreciate it.
Good points, and yeah, I do agree that Islam teaches us both.
I guess the distinction I was trying to make was between faith and works as necessary versus just faith alone.
So I would say that, of course, in Islam you have to believe that Allah is God, and you have to subscribe to the religion of Islam for your martyrdom or any of those different things to account for you, so you're absolutely right on that.
DM me, and I'll try to follow up with you on some of that information, so thanks for your comments.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for that, Dr. Strange. Let's go to JJ and then Slovenist, and then lastly we'll go back up to John Salisbury.
Ban Pastor, thanks for having this space. I really think you probably should have more of them. It's very positive.
The title of your discussion is The Bible's Influence of Modern Culture. Well, obviously the Bible has had a very positive influence on America.
People that are saved make good citizens, and I don't think you really can have a republic without a godly people, and I think that's why we're having all the problems that we're having now.
But I just had a couple questions. What's your position on eternal security, and what's your position on the rapture?
So I used to be pre-trib growing up, but I ended up changing my position, so I believe what I would describe as called a post-tribulation pre-wrath rapture.
And so it's not necessarily a position that's put out there very often, but there's a film by Pastor Anderson called After the Tribulation.
I think if you want to understand my position, that documentary really explains it well.
Yeah, I've actually watched that documentary. My wife actually was saved watching one of his videos.
And I think it's really important that I'll go ahead and sign off here, that you give people an invitation to explain to them how they can be saved. And with that, I'll say I do.
Thanks, JJ. I agree.
Very much. Thank you, JJ. And let's go over to Slavonist, and then we'll go back up to John.
So hey, guys. Hey, Ian. So you saved for the introduction.
I'm sorry. I can't hear you, so I'm going to cycle you again, Slavonist. And just in case, I'm going to cycle John as well.
John, if you can come back up, and Slavonist, if you can as well. I'll send those speaker invites. Hopefully this will fix it.
Yeah, do you hear me now?
I sure do. Thank you for that.
Okay. Thank you. Hey, Ian, and hey, guys. So I know now that Thema is about Bible and Christianity, but I would just like to go back to Holodomor.
You know, Ian, because you said that the Russians did the genocide. This is the same like we would say that Americans did the genocide, what they did in the war, like in Vietnam, let's say.
Or in Iraq, it was not the Americans, it was the Jew also, because the Jews sent, the Jews who control America, sent white Americans to kill for them.
But at that time, people didn't understand that. Thank God people understand now that. And the same was with Russia.
And also today in this war in Ukraine, between Ukraine and Russia, it's the same. You have Jews on both sides.
So Ukraine is Jewish government and Russia is also totally Jewish government. I don't know if you know that, but Putin is a Jew. Did you know that his mother is called Maria Shalomova?
Well, he's definitely got a picture at the wall with the little hat on.
Exactly. He has white hat on. Exactly. So not only that, if you know the Jewish mentality, you know that they were never left a Gentile or going to be on the so high position. It's just not possible. It would not be.
Also, I mean, also Sergei Lavrov, he's also a Jew. You have to know he's totally Jewish by mother and father.
So the Russian government is totally Jewish. I have to say that because most of people don't know that.
So two Russian sides, I mean, two Jewish sides are sending white people to kill each other. So it's white genocide from the Jews again.
I would like also mention the Kirill, so the patriarch of the Russian church. We are coming to Christianity now. He is also a Jew. So he's not Russian. He's totally Jewish.
But mother and father, his grandmother was called Wexalman. This is a totally Jewish name. Yeah. So think about that, guys.
Also, I don't know if you know about Pope Francis, the Pope of Vatican. He is also Jewish. Do you know that? Probably no. Someone knows. Someone not.
Out of curiosity, Pastor, I have to ask you about this. The pope has been radically different from his predecessor who is radically different from just about all of his predecessors for at this point decades.
That's a pretty big allegation that was just made and I don't have anything to base that off on. I'd be curious if you've heard something similar, if you believe something similar.
I mean, to say the current pope of the Catholic church is Jewish is a very strong allegation. So I'd like maybe to offer you the chance to comment specifically on that one and then maybe you can comment on some of the additional points made about Russia and other places as a follow up.
Sure. I would say initially I have no evidence of the fact that the pope is Jewish. I don't know. I would have to research that. I would be maybe skeptical of that, but I'm not sure.
I know, you know, some previous popes have been pretty bad, too. Ratzinger was a pretty rough pope. But again, I'm against all popes because the word pope is like coming from the word father and Jesus literally said, call no man father upon the earth.
And so they're literally in violation of what Jesus clearly said. So these people are always in opposition of the Bible. I do think that obviously there's influence.
I didn't know. I don't know anything about Putin being Jewish. I just know that I've seen him at the Wailing Wall with the little hat on. And it wouldn't surprise me that there's still a large Jewish contingent in Russia because with the Bolshevik Revolution, they installed a completely Jewish government.
Now, does that mean that every single person in those positions was Jewish? No, I don't think Stalin was Jewish. But at what point you have to ask this question, like at what point in human history did Russia stop that particular political system in control?
Obviously, they fell at one point, but I don't think we've seen them being replaced or taken a new form of leadership here. So I would just have to say like, it still seems like it's massively controlled by Jewish individuals.
Whether or not they're ethnically or religious, I don't know. I'm not an expert on Russia, you know, as far as their internal politics. Like I don't know the people that are in charge, but it wouldn't surprise me or shock me if the vast majority of them are Jewish. I kind of view that as well.
But I mean, obviously, we have a Jewish president of Mexico. Zelensky is also a Jew. We have, you know, some people that are related to or I think married to I think that what is the Prime Minister of UK? I think he's married to a Jew, I believe. And so
Prime Minister of Ireland also. He's also a Jewish. Harrison. Harrison. Harrison.
Oh, Harrison. Okay. Yeah. And for what it's worth, it's either Jewish or married to a Jew includes Venezuela, Panama, El Salvador, Mexico, Argentina. I mean, the list goes on and on and on. And like you said, Ukraine, Russia, the United Kingdom, Ireland.
It's just, it's preposterous. And to back up your point, Pastor, that you were saying, when it comes to the wealth, this was a crazy statistic. So it's 33% of the 100 richest Americans and 34% of the richest Russians are all Jewish. So it's just an unbelievably high overrepresentation. Each one of those about 15x what you would expect if it was a normalized distribution.
Well, it's just what Jordan Peterson said. They just have a 20 point IQ advantage over us. So that's the only one.
And on the IQ one, so I'll add, I don't know if everybody's seen it that's in the space, but I actually went through and because I'm a huge nerd, I did the math around the IQ piece. And even if we were to give them their supposed IQ advantage, because there's so few of them, if positions of power were normalized based on intelligence, you should see a 6x overrepresentation of whites to Jews.
Based on the number of individuals that would have IQ north of 135. So for anybody listening, it's a nonsensical justification. Anytime anyone throws it out there, including Jordan Peterson, just know that he's full of shit or completely uninformed on the issue.
Guys, it is because of tribe, the meaning of way of life. Also, the Jews, I don't know if you know the definition of energy, not the energy of cows. This is the definition which the Jews are promoting. Because the Jews are living by energy law. What means that? By the law as ends.
So every Jew knows what he has to do. So there is not one, how to say, the main Jew in the world. You have many Jews who has power. So the ends are living like that. So this is anarchy. Each one knows what they have to do.
And nepotism, a meaning of that they will always choose a Jew. It doesn't matter if this Jew is 10 points stupider than a white guy, he will choose a Jew, because he is a Jew. And that's it. And also accumulation of power and money. But I mean money they have, they're just putting the number in the computer over fat.
But I have one question for Pastor, if I can, because he said that he doesn't believe in race. So tell me, Pastor, if you don't believe in race, then you have no problem if like 50 millions of Chinese come to USA. I mean Christian Chinese, because you have in China a lot of millions of Christians and they're prosecuted in China.
Yeah, I'll answer that. Number one, race is for sure doesn't exist, because if you take a black person, a white person, and they have a baby, what race is it? But I mean the thing is like, I don't want to import Chinese people into America just to import them.
But at the end of the day, if someone lived in China that believes exactly like I do, and they had the opportunity to either marry someone or have a job in this country, and we had proper legal protocols, then I would have nothing against them migrating to our country.
The problem with migration mostly is that we're giving handouts, we should give zero handouts to someone migrating to our country or visiting our country. They should have to pay to enter our country. And they should either be having a purpose, they need to be either being married to someone or having a job.
And if companies don't want to hire those individuals, because they're not effective in the workforce, then you know, they have to stay in their part of the region of the world. I think that that should be our immigration policy. And that's what we have had in the past, we've only let the best and brightest come here on a purpose.
And it didn't really stop America from being America. But when you import large factions of people, based on nothing, giving them handouts, you kind of go back to what N said earlier about, you're sinking a ship, we have limited resources, we can't just let everybody get in the boat, just because you can't fit all 8 billion people in America, just because we're we're doing better. And if you brought all 8 billion people, we wouldn't do be better. But again, I have Chinese people in my church, and I like them.
So you're a Christian, yeah, you're Christian. Okay, so I mean, by the Christian, if if I'm not mistaken, by these Christian dogma, every Christian is your brother, or not. So it would be not. I'm choosing the right words, you know, so it will not probably not right. If you say no to Chinese Christian to come to America, normally, you should say call my brothers.
Well, yeah, but here's the thing, I have a lot of people in my church that are my Christian brothers and sisters in Christ, but they're not welcome to live in my house. So we have to have personal boundaries and personal property. And the reality is just because someone might be my brother in Christ in Africa, or Australia or China does not
Yeah, but they're prosecuted in China. I told you they're prosecuted in China. Christians are prosecuted in China. Yeah, because of that. I exactly because of that I mentioned Chinese. So would you help Chinese 50 million Chinese to come USA Christian Chinese to help them? That was my question.
If 50 million is probably too many people to just import into a country, no matter what the circumstances are, but again, I have no problem with with migrants.
You would let them to die there in China?
Well, what do you mean let them die?
Yes, and sloveness that I don't think just to pull this off of pastor entirely. What he's suggesting is that you can't just bring in massive chunks of people without other ramifications and impacts. And I think unfortunately, if back to the analogy of the ships, right, if people are going to die in the water, and they're going to drown, or you can bring them on to a boat, but by bringing them on to the boat, it sinks the boat that you're bringing them on to and then kills all the 350 million people currently on the boat.
It's unfortunate to say, well, 50 million is less than 350 million. So they're going to have to suffer. That's just a calculation that at some point, you have to make if you want the world to be able to be a little bit more sustainable.
Right. I will explain. There's 50 million. Let me let me explain it one second. And I'll let you go back. If there's 50 million Chinese people drowning in the sea right now, I can't rescue all of them. I would have to pick. And I'm not against pulling one of them out of the ocean and rescuing them. But I physically can't save 50 million people in a boat. You know, so like, if if there's 50 million people in China, how are you going to transport all those people? Where are you going to put them? Where are they going to live? Like, how is me bringing them on?
How is me bringing them into America magically going to give them a sustainable life anyways? I could I could drag them all the way across this country and then put them on the street and they have no job, nowhere to live, no spouse, no anything. They're going to die in poverty here. Why is that even necessarily better? You have to have sustainability of a country and a nation and you have personal property and borders. And like, I'll go over there and I'll give them the gospel and I'll love these people. And I have Chinese people in my church and I'm pro them. But your scenario is an unrealistic scenario for everyone.
So, Pastor Nian, my point was that a pastor said he doesn't believe in grace. So I literally I mean, I personally I was baptizing Catholic. When I was 21 years old, I went out I had like two, three hours monologue with the priest. He was shocked of my information, what I had. He asked me like five times how old and where did where did I get informations? On the end, he just put the hands up together and said,
Come, come tomorrow. I will give you the first day the paper. Just second.
Yeah, I've never understood why this is a complex subject.
Ash's demographic shift in clash of cultures is going to eliminate the very prospect of this country that allow or what people want to come to in the first place.
Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more on that one.
Prioritize that over like stability.
Well, and it's self sacrificing and ultimately self defeating. And it's so bizarre because and I've said this on spaces in the past. I mean, I had argued red team, blue team politics for a long time before starting to uncover the real issue and puppet master.
And I, on the immigration thing, I always the thing that's been most frustrating about it is the realities and repercussions that we're seeing today of the changes in culture, the changes and drastic increases in poverty.
And it's not just immigration with people coming in. It's also H1B work visas in, quote unquote, legal migration. And it's also the offshoring of all manufacturing, essentially, and all technology jobs that can be done remotely.
We are seeing the complete destruction of the middle class. We're seeing the the over abundance of people looking for housing in every single metro area across the entire country, which means that housing prices are going up, schools are getting flooded.
I mean, I could tell you that there are schools in every metro area in the United States where they have entire schools that are almost 100 percent ESL English as a second language with individuals that do not speak a lick of English.
And they're being expected to learn second, third, fourth, fifth, all the way up through eighth grade and high school educations. And these schools are filled with individuals that have reading comprehension levels of kindergartners.
And why is the American taxpayer being forced to subsidize this system that is is I would say it's unjust and it's immoral because it's putting undue burden on the people that were here in the first place.
And it's doing so at the justification of being generous with, quote unquote, prosperity. But the obvious reality is it destroys the prosperity of the people who have been here.
And it's why I believe that the politicians that were behind this, the entire goal of it was to basically second world the United States. And they want to do this globally.
They want to take all first world nations, bring them down, all third world nations, bring them up. And then you can usher in the, quote unquote, New World Order or essentially Zionism.
That's all going to be run out of the only first world that would be left, which is going to be the greater Israel, or at least that's their vision.
And the thing that's so frustrating is I've been making these points on immigration going back forever.
And even today, where you see the results, the ramifications of that flawed policy, even now, in spite of the fact that something like 50 to 60 percent of Americans don't have $400 of emergency cash to be able to pay for a medical emergency, a food emergency, an issue with their children.
We're still hearing the same cries that we have to do it based on humanitarian issues. And now the only thing that they've changed is they've said that they're, quote unquote, refugees that are fleeing from all sorts of disastrous situations.
It's grotesque. It's pathetic. And like I said, the only thing is, compared to my prior position, is that now I realize that it's being accommodated by both sides.
The left says it's a humanitarian issue. The right says, hey, free market economics, bro. And both of them are being funded by the same organization that funds HIAS and all these other largely Jewish nonprofits that are funneling these people in here.
So it's just it's so frustrating that even when you see the realities and the results of this flawed ideology, the same people making arguments for them, they continue right on.
And it's just don't believe your lying eyes to all the people that realize what's going on. So sorry for the rant there. But let's go over to John Salisbury. But let's first give Pastor a chance to respond to that little tangent that I went down.
Well, there's nothing wrong with benevolence, but it shouldn't be forced benevolence. It should be under the ability of free will.
And we should compel people to be benevolent because of the goodness of their heart and because they have the money, not forcibly take it from individuals.
And just, you know, one point to add, they're not only just taking this money and giving it to immigrants, they're actually taking all this money and giving it to themselves and then giving nothing to the immigrants as well.
So, you know, they really are, you know, a lot of this benevolence is fake, and they're on the take. And they give all this humanitarian aid to these African countries.
And people really understand what happens is you have Bill and Melinda Gates and all these organizations, they're just tax shields. And then they give all this money to an African nation.
And then they go do a guest speaker, and then they pay them with the money that they gave them. And they just like it's a constant funneling system of just like giving themselves money, lobbying efforts, power influence, tax shields, moving money offshores, human trafficking, smuggling, like none of it's actually benevolent.
All these people are fake. They don't really care about people. But they have to pretend that they care. And both sides definitely are fake on that point. So I mean, very good.
Absolutely.
Yeah. And it's just, I mean, I just saw it in California, they're now offering up to $150 housing stipends for illegals, because quote unquote, housing is too expensive. And it's like, wait a second.
So your citizen that's been living in California, that is now 25, 30 years old, that spent their entire life there and can't afford housing because there's massive demand, which is largely artificial, in the sense that it's been increased as a result of increased population,
which has been due to illegal migrants coming into, you know, nation or states like California. And now your solution is to say to the illegals that are here, in addition to all the other freebies that they're being given, oh, we'll also help you buy a home because it's too expensive,
while little Johnny who's been living there his entire life is completely screwed. And not only is he screwed because he can't afford the housing, but his tax dollars and via inflation, his wealth is the piece that's being used to pay for the migrants.
It's utter insanity and what drives me craziest, and again, tangent, but they then say that we need to look at things like reparations, which again, we talked about earlier that slavery was largely a Jewish installation.
And it's like, okay, so now you're giving housing, you're giving food, you're giving financial incentives like raw cash to these illegal migrants, you're now going to help them with this home by giving them money to do so.
And you now want to tax the white middle class any wealth that they have left to repay blacks reparations for saying they had absolutely nothing to do with.
Well, the richest of the rich, who, if we look at wealth distribution, it's something like 130%, the average American wealth is held by Jewish individuals, they are the top of the income bracket.
Those individuals are all going to use those tax shields, like you mentioned, to make sure that they're not hit at all by the very thing that we, as we discussed earlier, that they were largely responsible for the creation of.
So it's just, it's literally, okay, let's look at reparations and to repay the former slaves by enslaving the white middle class and taking the last of their wealth to give to somebody else.
It's just utter insanity. So let's go to John, and then we'll go to Daniel. And we do have a couple more requests. So what I'll do is instead of turning folks down, why don't we just try to be really tight here, John, and then Daniel, and then Titus, and that way everybody gets one little question here.
Sure. Thanks, Ian. And yeah, just one final thought, and more of a long-term question for the pastor and for Ian. And I feel like I'm kind of, you know, I'm kind of just getting involved in this group.
Per Ian, Ian has totally brought me in and helped me to understand and refocus my talents and my thoughts on helping to revive Christianity and communities of faith at a local level.
And I just would ask Ian and the pastor, and everybody that's listening in this group, are we going in a good direction or are we using these spaces platforms well to be able to, and I think we are, to be able to discuss these issues?
You know, I couldn't help but this last speaker was talking about, well, let's bring in a bunch of 50 million Chinese. What about the 50 million homeless people on the streets in America?
If we're going to start saving people, maybe we should start saving those people first, and lifting up our communities. And I'm hoping, so the question is, can we start using these spaces to inform people so they can go out into their communities and be thought leaders, as far as re-standing up the faith-based communities that were so strong,
and built America? And, you know, I can't help but think with Ian's little rant there, they're taking the resources, the capabilities, and the decision-making out of Christian men and women's hands.
That's what basically all of this anarchy that's being focused on our local communities is. So, as these spaces go, can we use them? And then how can we take that type of focus and start putting it out into our communities and start talking with other people to get information out that, number one, no, it's not hopeless.
And number two, yes, there are many things we can do about it, and all of it revolves around our faith and our belief, right? Is that making some sense? And thank you so much for this space. And I'll be watching, I've got the pastor on notification now, and of course, I've got Ian on notification.
Thanks for your comments. And I really appreciate the things you said, and I think you're on the right track. I do want to clean up a few things you said, though, or add kind of a suggestive comment, because there's not 50 million homeless people in America. According to 2023 statistics, there's only 650,000 homeless people in America.
And I think that there's a difference between homeless people in America and a lot of people suffering in these foreign countries, because these people suffering in foreign countries are suffering at the hands of communism and totalitarian regimes.
Whereas the homeless people in our country are mostly just drug addicted, like God-hating weirdos. And they, you know, again, I'm not saying that I'm not sympathetic towards homeless people, because I spent two years dedicated to preaching in homeless shelters and preaching the Bible to them, and I've tried to give them the gospel.
But I'm not going to lie to you and say that this group of people isn't filled with a lot of issues. And the Bible even says explicitly in First Thessalonians, I'm sorry, Second Thessalonians chapter three, it says if a man will not work, neither should he eat. And it actually forbids the Christian church from feeding homeless people.
And if we actually stopped feeding homeless people and giving them money, then they would be forced to get back into society in many cases. And so, you know, I think that a lot of fake churches have made the homeless situation worse, because they don't really agree with what the Bible says on this.
And they're so focused on giving somebody a sandwich, even though that person's going to die and go to hell, because they didn't end up believing the gospel. And the most important thing is giving somebody the gospel and teaching them how to be saved, and that they need to actually work hard and they're going to be responsible for their actions.
When you brought up this question about spaces, I think that this is a great tool, but the only thing that matters is if we say things that are true and accurate. And I think that we all need to be extremely careful the way that we communicate, that we're using facts, that we use meekness, and we're humble about our approach.
And I'm not saying that I'm great at this, because I sure need a lot of work in this area, too. But I want to try to get the truth out there. And I've just I've heard so many lies. And I think one of the biggest issues for me is I just I don't see a lot of people I respect and having good opinions, being willing to get out there and into these areas and have these conversations.
They want to keep themselves sanitized from the world. And I think that we need to try our best to get out there and put our viewpoints out there and communicate. And of course, I've been banned a lot. I mean, I'm all for getting the message out there. It's difficult. It's difficult when you have a lot of the stances and viewpoints I have to reach a big audience.
And so I really appreciate Ian and other individuals that are willing to have a conversation with me, even if they don't agree with me, even if they're not a Christian, even if they're not a Baptist. You know, I have a podcast called The Baptist Bias. But I bring so many guests on our show that aren't even a Baptist. And, you know, I'm trying to engage the world, have conversations, have heated discussions, have debates, have, you know, whatever it is to get the information out there.
And I think that we all need to have some boldness to preach the truth, to preach the gospel and confront people on ideologies, but not in a combative way, but rather in a confident but yet humble approach. And so, you know, I hope that that kind of answers your question. I'll let Ian give his opinion on there, too.
You know, I regretfully, I didn't jump in because we've been moving speakers around so much. I actually was not able to hear any of it. Could you give me maybe like a 15-second recap, Pastor, and then I'll address that?
Sure. I just, I kind of addressed the idea of like, let us use the spaces that we have in these these areas to communicate truth and kind of humbleness and, and meekness and being confident. But, you know, getting out there and actually having the conversations. I think that, you know, even if you aren't necessarily the same as me, as far as like belief system, or even if there's people out there that aren't a Baptist or whatever, I still want to have those conversations. And, you know, I have a podcast, The Baptist Bias.
I don't just bring on Baptist on the show. I bring all kinds of people on. And I want to have those conversations and, and put the information out there as a way to change the culture for the better.
I couldn't agree with you more on that one, Pastor. And I sincerely believe two things. Number one, that truth should never fear discussion, right? It shouldn't fear inquiry or questions. And as a result, we should always speak it, even with individuals that we disagree on.
And like I said before, with you, and for example, Dom, obviously had different opinions on things, but they're opinions. And we should be free to speak opinions to inject truth. And what I find so curious is when individuals and I, there's actually an individual who commented, he said, Ian, you're late for your KKK meeting on a post that I had put up where I asked if the origins of communism were Jewish, and if the first implementation of communism in Russia was overwhelmingly led by Jews.
And that was the person's response. And my point is that they use those ad hominins and they use things like hate speech and antisemitism or racism, all these things. They are shields to make us self-censor so that we are fearful to discuss certain topics.
I did a thread on black crime in America, and I looked at what percentage of crime is committed by blacks, of the crime that's committed by blacks, which of it is committed by individuals that are 13 to 33 and are male within the black community. And it's almost, I don't want to say it's almost all of it, but it's a disproportionately high majority of it.
And so what does that mean? Well, that means that of the 13% of Americans that are black, that let's say half of them, so that'd be six and a half percent are male, and of that about a third, so let's say a little more than 2% of the nation fit into that bucket of that age that are male, that are black.
And so you have roughly about 2% of the nation committing over half of the violent crimes. And I went into gun statistics, I went into things like sexual assault, carjackings, etc.
And that thread, which was all purely based on factual data from the CIA, FBI data, police data that was available, etc. It also looked at things like IQ and temperament. That's not at all designed to be offensive to anybody, but it's merely factual.
And the fact that most of the responses were this is racist, or you're a bigot, or go find the case, or whatever it was, right? It's because individuals don't want to discuss truth. They instead want to use ad hominems and other emotionally charged words to get us to stop discussing uncomfortable realities.
And we have to around religion, around over representations in crime, over representations amongst power, whatever the situation might be. I think it's invaluable that we do that. And then to the second piece that we do it non-violently, non-hatefully, we just allow the data, whether it's historical or present, to help us understand where we are and where we will go in the future if we do not address some of these realities.
When it comes to, for example, black crime, what is the fact that 80 plus percent of black children are being born into a single parent household? What does that mean? What does the statistics tell us? Is the trajectory of those individuals? Why are we seeing this normalized across Hispanics, across whites, across Asians? Why is that demographic increasing across every one of those groups?
And obviously the answer is because we are seeing a shift in the culture. And to the comments the pastor made, we have to reject that. We can't reject it if we can't even discuss those realities. And so when you hear people say racism, sexism, other kind of isms that often have their roots in kind of Jewish ideologies, stand straight, folks. Stand straight up, stand tall, stand proud, speak truths, and ask them boldly. Say, look, I've just given you data. How is the data hateful?
Because the answer is it's not. And when you force somebody to address that, the thing that's always going to happen, I can almost guarantee you, is they're going to get more hostile, they're going to get more emotional, they're going to become unhinged because they can't put up with somebody that can peacefully articulate uncomfortable truths.
And when they get more emotionally unhinged, anyone that's watching and witnessing, they're going to understand why. And they're going to say to themselves, you know what? I think that guy has a point. So we need to speak these truths always. And with that, let's go to another question. I know that we had Daniel up here. So sorry for that long winded response. But in the interest of time, let's go Daniel, Fun, Titus, and then Gasmus. And if we could keep everybody really, really tight with the questions, and we'll let the pastor respond.
Hey, Ian, Ian, real quick on what you just said right now, this is fun to do, I was going to just ask you just to go on to what you just said. So like with all these crime statistics, and what we know about redlining, and all the equality that been going on, and the fact that the crime is going on more within the black communities, a lot of these crimes, like domestic violence has been that's been weaponized work against mostly black people.
People are being charged with like mostly domestic crimes. It's either white, it was dating a white girl, and then she got pissed off. And we went and made a false claim. That's how I got a felony. It was all fake. But but what I'm saying is like that the way things have been set up with the redlining, and and only white people able to buy properties in the 1800s, those properties, which are now turning into the wealth that most of the majority of white folks are.
And then you've got these black folks who've been kind of put in these scenarios in these ghetto scenarios. All of this is by design, though, right? You agree with that? It's not like that the people themselves are kind of prone to going and committing crimes, right?
Well, I mean, this is a complicated issue. And this could require its own space. I'd be happy to do that. I don't want to take up or monopolize too much of the pastor's time, especially through winding down. But what I would say is I do believe there's a couple things. Number one, when it comes to disproportionate opportunity, we could look at things like wealth inequities that go back quite some time.
On wealth, what you might find interesting is if we look at the average income of your average American, whites are barely above the average. Now, most people don't realize that they think whites have all this wealth monopolized. It's frankly untrue. What what often happens, though, is whites that are outside of major metro areas.
They are the forgotten people, the people of states like Ohio, of Michigan, Wisconsin, West Virginia, the Appalachian whites, they have nothing. And they also get no support from the federal government. Nobody talks about them. Nobody cares. They are left behind, whether it's the Rust Belt or like I said, those Appalachian whites.
They are. Or you could actually go down south and you go into folks in like the panhandle of western Florida. You could look at Louisiana. They have nothing. Nobody cares. Nobody talks about them because no one wants to have the uncomfortable conversation that whites, just like everybody else, are becoming drastically poorer.
Like I said, if you look at the average income, then of Jews, it's drastically higher than even the second highest of incomes. We're talking massive magnitudes of wealth. And this was the exact same thing that was seen in Weimar, Germany, in fact, where Jews in Germany at that time had three hundred percent the income of your average German.
And so these are uncomfortable realities. Now, amongst those impoverished individuals, what I can also tell you is the richest blacks commit more violent crime by multiples than the poorest whites in America. I've got a graphic that I can share with you that demonstrates that.
Now, that does not say that blacks are inherently bad or anything along those lines. But we could look at things like studies done into IQ, where your average African-American IQ is something between about 80 and 85, whereas your average American white IQ is about 100 to 110. That is a huge difference.
If you look at temperaments, the tendencies to aggression, to violence, and the other big piece, and this is a result of IQ, I believe, this is my hypothesis, the idea of a time horizon. And so what does that mean? I was talking about this with a guy named Hitch, who all he focuses on is IQ on X. I'm trying to do a space with him.
The idea of a time horizon, a police officer pulls somebody over. You've got a white guy and you've got a black guy. The white guy with the higher IQ is more able in a very short period of time to process the short, mid, and long-term consequences of their actions.
So what does that mean? They sit there and they see the police lights go on and they say, well, shit, I had two beers. I might be over the legal limit. But if I run away and I get caught, I'm going to have a way worse problem than if I just pull over and I deal with the situation at hand.
For somebody with a lower IQ, that's a harder mental gymnastics to process. Their ability is to focus more on the short term. So what does someone that only looks at the short term say? Well, shit, I need to get away from the situation. I can't get pulled over.
So the white person might pull to the side of the road, the black person might slam on the gas pedal, and now they've got a very different scenario. Now, that's just a microcosm for this entire ideology around short, mid, and long-term time horizons.
Same thing with Michael Brown, if everybody remembers him. He had robbed a convenience store, was walking down the street, the police officer pulls up, they put on the lights. What did the guy do? He got violent.
Now, the reason he got violent is because he did not want to accept the consequences, potentially, I can't be inside his mind, but of robbing that convenience store. And then we all know how that story went.
So these are very complex scenarios. We have to take them into consideration. I'm not undermining the fact that blacks have had different historical challenges, but I do think that there are very realistic internal components that differentiate blacks and whites in America.
It doesn't mean there aren't very smart blacks and very dumb whites. There certainly are. But like I said, those violent tendencies, the crime statistics in particular amongst the poorest of whites and the richest of blacks, it does create a pretty stark dynamic between the two.
And those drastic differences mean that we need to think through those things. I say that with no hostility towards the blacks in America or anywhere in the world for that matter.
But there are honest conversations that just like I was saying, whether it's around Jews, communism, blacks, immigration, etc., we have to just be really reasoned and measured with how we approach these things. So I hope that was helpful.
Can you book that space for that? I think this is very important because you'll find like me, I'm an African from Africa, came to the U.S. illegal, and I still sit in all your spaces.
And I kind of understand and I hear the narrative, but I see the bigger picture. The bigger picture is fucking Jews, right? So I see that. And there's a few intelligent, open minded black people, that girl, Casey, and a few other people who sit in these spaces.
And the conversation is not, you guys are not toning it down, right? You just straight up with whatever you got to say. And there's some blacks that will sit in the space and hear it. And then it's what it does.
It turns out that what we want to do is we want to have this conversation, but also make it sound welcoming and make always obvious the fact that we have one common enemy, and we are not the enemy.
And then we can discuss all of these other minor things. So another thing I was going to say, because I lived in the U.S. illegally for over 25 years, I got pulled over by the by the local police.
My license plate was out. It ended up leading to me being arrested for the weekend. These guys called the Homeland Security on me while I was in detention and Homeland Security put a hold on me.
So I spent time in the immigration detention center in El Paso, Texas, 31 days. And I will tell you the truth. I don't think any Twitter space has had an immigrant who has been fighting deportation and came on these spaces and told you guys the real truth.
So this whole immigration deal, detention of migrants, they can solve the problem, but they want to monetize the problem. All your detention centers around the country, the Southwest are all privately owned, privately run.
And you will find there's like six U.S. immigration officers who are just watching over the facility, right? So all these, that's what the biggest push is.
If you look at the stock for the detention, immigration detention, it has collapsed to almost nothing right now, right? And then, aside from that part, is that when I came here illegally, I could not vote.
That is like the biggest lie ever. There's so many connecting dots you need to connect, right? The only way you can scam the system is if my name is Jose Padilla, and I find an American Jose Padilla,
and we use each other's ID. That way, yes. But you can't register to vote, and you can't steal benefits, right? It's impossible. There's so many connecting dots that they need.
Let me explain. I'm telling you the truth, because I've been through this stuff. I just want to put clarity. So like the pastor said, let's talk about this stuff and be honest.
I'm just trying to destroy every narrative that the Americans have been carrying about immigration. Give me a second. I won't take long.
Fun. We can have that in another conversation. I don't want to monopolize too much time, and we need to wrap this up. So I'm trying to be respectful of that.
I just want to make a few quick comments on this, because number one, if you enter the country illegally, I would hope that the person can't vote, because that just makes common sense.
Additionally, I have strong opinions on this topic, and I don't want to undermine any of the points that you made, Ian, because I think that everything you're saying is true about the IQ, and I have a strong opinion of why that's true.
But here's the thing. I don't think dumb people are bad people, and I don't think that poor people are bad people. I have friends, and I've been to Chicago, Houston, the Bahamas, Jamaica, UK, and Uganda.
And if you meet a black person from Chicago, Houston, the Bahamas, Jamaica, UK, and Uganda, these people are not the same people. The difference in America is a cultural issue, and if you look at the 1960s, there was a major departure of fathers in the home in the black community.
Additionally, you have the Hollywood media organizations hiring a lot of degenerate black people to promote the rap music and the thug culture, which has really caused the huge issues in America.
If you go to Jamaica, if you go to the Bahamas, most of these people are some of the nicest people you've ever met, very safe. But you go into inner city Chicago, you go into the inner cities of Houston, it feels extremely dangerous.
My church is literally in a predominantly black area, and the reason why is because it's more affordable, and they're actually really receptive to the gospel. I love black people. I have black people in my church.
And let's be honest, black people were selectively bred through slavery for hundreds of years to be the biggest, strongest, tallest, fastest.
That's why they're all basically the linebackers and the greatest football players, and they're basketball players, because they were selectively bred for that purpose, not for their intelligence.
That doesn't mean that that makes them bad people or anything like that, but that's the reason why the American black people are so tall, so big, so strong, generally speaking.
Additionally, many of them came from Africa, African tribes, they thrived on physical genetics as being a major component to their survival. That's why they were selectively bred that particular way.
In America and in Europe, people have to survive by creating farms and ingenuity, so that kind of bolsters the necessary component of IQ.
But just because you're smarter does not mean you'll be a good person. Just because you're richer doesn't mean you'll be a good person. It's a lot more about having a father in the home.
It's about Christianity. It's about being taught good morals. And let's just be honest, the black community, their churches are filled with a lot of fakes.
In fact, there's a huge church near me that has a big BLM poster on it. These people are fakes, phonies, taking advantage of the black people, ripping them off, just like many of the rappers.
I mean, Drake's Jewish, if you know that. But it's like these people are being taken advantage of and ripped off by an ideology.
And if we want to reach the black people, if we love them, we would come alongside them and teach them the gospel and try to help them to educate themselves because they need education.
They need to take responsibility for their actions. They need to reject rap music and the culture. And they need to recognize that police aren't going around killing black people indiscriminately.
In fact, more young black men die in swimming pools than they do from cops. And that's just facts.
But, you know, again, if we're going to solve these problems, we have to realize, I believe that the Jews want the blacks to be the problem and for people to focus on that because then it distracts from what they're doing and who they are.
And so again, I would love to comment in that other space as well, because I have strongly held opinions and viewpoints on this.
And I've actually thought about this quite a bit. And so, you know, and again, I like I said, I love black people.
I love Jamaicans. I love Bahamians. And I love Houston people and Chicago people.
And I'm not against anybody. But we need to be honest with them and say, look, you need to pull up your pants, get a belt, stop listening to rap music, get a job, work hard, educate yourself.
Go to church, read the Bible. That's what's going to fix the black community, not reparations that will destroy them even more.
So you know that the whole Puff Daddy situation with Clyde Davis is that Clyde Davis gave Puff Daddy power and Puff Daddy is the one who ran this direction of hip hop.
I think we're probably going to continue down a tangent that we could just go forever. So let's let's do that in another space so that we can wrap this up.
I've got to close this down the next couple of minutes. There's a lot of other folks that have been asking for questions.
So I appreciate if we can do that. And let's go to let's go to Daniel so that he can get a word in.
And I would add that just personally speaking, I couldn't agree with what the pastor said more.
I think there's a drastic difference if you go and you actually spend time with blacks in particular outside of the United States.
The the I've heard actually and you can you do this next time you get into an Uber or you come across somebody in some kind of social setting where you're able to have a conversation with somebody that's actually an African migrant.
Ask them their thoughts on black American culture. They will lambast it more than I ever would.
They will say that they think it's atrocious. They don't understand it. They can't relate to it, et cetera.
And so I think we should be we should be very clear about that. And that has that has no impact on things, though, that are that are genetic tendencies, like we're saying with IQ and other things.
Those are just they're just realities of the world. We have to address them. We have to think them through.
But that doesn't mean that I have any animosity towards anyone based on their skin color, things of that nature.
So let's go to let's go to Titus. Actually, Daniel, I think was next.
Yeah. Yeah, I think we just experienced a reinforcement of the impulse control thing you were talking about.
The I'd like to start off just the pastor there, you know, like what you're saying about feeding the homeless.
I agree 100 percent. And when they talk about giving to the poor, I think that's more on the lines of let's lift people up that are poor because the poor are just struggling.
Homeless people are people that have just given up and depend on that to keep them living in the way that they live.
The other the other thing I was going to ask is, Ian or pastor, have you got either of you guys heard of the Los Angeles Declaration of the Los Angeles Declaration on Migration and Protection?
No, I'm not familiar with it.
I'll share some screenshots in the comments section when I'm done talking so you can look at some of that.
But in twenty two, if you pull it up and just read the first paragraph, basically it's it's we entered into a contract with South Central and South America to create the pathways for safe and regular migration into our country to set up international funding to encourage all of this.
And part of the whole deception thing is that all these people that are running and blaming the other side and back and forth and everything, not a single person that's running has talked about the fact that basically we entered into an agreement.
You know, and language of law has has, you know, certain certain things that you're kind of required to uphold that.
I'm not sure how we get out of that agreement, but it's it basically lays everything out about what we're experiencing and why it is not being shut down, because we have entered in a contract with the rest of the world to allow this to happen.
I'll leave it there and share some screenshots in the in the comments section for you.
I'd appreciate that greatly and would love to do perhaps a space on that subject. I mean, look, the thing that should be clear to everybody is that there is a concerted effort to destroy the West and it's being done by destroying the economic prosperity of those currently in the West.
And it's being furthered by the mass migration of people into the West that have a disparate culture, set of values, set of history, set of skills, set of IQ, etc.
That is inevitably just adding to the supply side on the supply demand curve, which any anyone that's thinking like the most fundamental level of economics understands that the more available supply you have at a demand that's either static or that is lowering is going to result in a lowered price point.
Right. And so what does that mean? You import massive amounts of more people into economies where everyone is transparent and open about the fact that we don't know what's going to happen to jobs with automation and with artificial intelligence and a continued reliance on software rather than human manpower.
Right. What is the inevitable outcome of that? It is the the salaries of everyone drastically decreasing.
And I know that we don't necessarily see this because of inflation. But if you look at the average income of most folks, it's been completely static. And what's mind boggling is the Democratic Party yelled about this all throughout the 80s and 90s.
They asked, why is why are basic incomes not increasing alongside inflation? Why is your average income not increasing? Why is minimum wage staying static?
Well, obviously, it's because they don't have to increase it. Because if you import massive amounts of more people willing to accept low paying jobs, guess what? They don't have to raise the price point.
So it's all very, very, very simple. So economically, everyone's being made impoverished while the culture is being simultaneously destroyed and imploded, both through mass migration, which is cultural disruption, but also through this onslaught of propaganda.
Just like that prior speaker was talking about the black community used to be fine. If you look at even black entertainment going back 30 or 40 years, what did you have? You had The Cosby Show.
You had you had programs like Family Matters. You had things like the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
And I mean, I can vividly remember an episode of the Fresh Prince where the character Will goes to his uncle and he says, why doesn't my dad love me?
Why was he not part of my life? It's a very, very emotionally touching scene. And back then, everybody could understand how difficult that must be to not have a family or a father in your household.
Well, guess what? Four out of five black kids in America now live that reality. That's insane that that's been normalized. And what's the outcome of that?
It's obviously going to be all these social unrest and social issues and ills that we see. So everyone's being made poor.
Culture is being dumbed down. It's being degraded. The religion is being pulled out of all of the communities.
And folks, this is exactly out of the playbook of social Marxism.
This is what Marx called for on both the economic front and on the cultural front.
It's the removal of the family, the removal of education, the removal of religion, X, Y and Z, the removal of your history.
We see all the statues being torn down. This is straight out of that playbook.
And where did both social Marxism and actually the economic rendition of it, where did that all come from?
Where did the political indoctrination of communism come from? It's all Judaic in its background.
That's not being hateful. That's just factually correct. And so sorry for the rant there, Pastor.
But if you want to pick it up from here, I think it's I give you a lot of fodder or ingredients.
I just dropped those pictures in the comments section for you. And if you want to put them up in a nest or whatever, people to see it easier.
I didn't mean to cut you off, Pastor. I just wanted to let them let them know I did that.
No, thank you. No problem. Yeah, I mean, I agree. I feel like I could go down another rabbit trail with you on that.
And I actually went to school to study economics. I was getting a master's degree in economics and finance.
And, you know, I could really talk a lot about inflation and usury. And, you know, it's it's it's evil. It's evil.
It's a rigged system. People just honestly, if you play two board games, monopoly and risk, they'll help you understand the world so well.
And the game of monopoly is if you don't acquire properties, you lose the game.
And it's it's all a real estate game and the prices keep going up. And if you don't have a monopoly, you lose.
And that's how America's capitalist system is. That's the direction we're headed.
And, you know, in the Bible, they had a year of Jubilee, which reset the economic system over and over and was to prevent this from happening.
Supposedly, America had regulations and was supposed to break up monopolies to prevent this from happening.
But the fact that Google owns YouTube is the most obvious monopoly you could ever see.
Like, there's not a more clear monopoly that could ever exist and they're not being broken up.
Facebook bought Instagram. It was like, come on.
Like, how open of a monopoly are we going to have in this country and not break these things up?
And, you know, we're being driven into a scenario where the rich are going to have so much more money than the poor that we're all going to all going to be poor.
That's that is one of the goals and one of the aims is to and to strip us to where we all have no property.
I mean, you think of the World Economic Forum, they'll say you own nothing and be happy.
The first part's true. The second part is not.
They want people to be maybe drunk and on drugs and sleeping around to try and pacify the fact that they have literally no wealth anymore and that they're eating junk food and having to work as slaves to just afford a really terrible existence.
And so that is their goal. That's their aim. I don't know that it will happen for sure, but obviously that's what they want.
And we need the general populace to wake up, get the right mindset, become saved, follow the Bible.
That's the only opposition. That is the opposition to this is Christianity.
And so without it, there is no hope. Can I say one more thing real quick and then I'll I'll step out.
The these people that are going to these like city hall meetings like that one that's been being shared around in Alabama right now.
Anyone that is going to do this and speak out and get shut down like that or just face a glazed eyed people that aren't going to do anything.
I would suggest turning around to the people that are sitting there behind you and say, hey, anyone that's wants to actually continue this conversation in the parking lot because these people aren't doing the job that they were they were put in this position to do.
Let's continue it in the parking lot and figure out what we're going to do about these people. That's it.
Well, a very good question.
Yeah. Thanks for letting me speak. I had one thing for Ian and one thing for Pastor Ian real quick.
That one hundred and fifty K California given it to the illegals for housing thing.
Yeah. I hope you're sitting down. Gavin Newsom vetoed that Friday.
And I know it's new information and a lot of people probably just haven't heard it yet.
But that still doesn't excuse all the traders in California's Senate and House for voting yes on that.
That's just crazy.
And the other thing I had for pastor is on talking about modern culture and Bible influence.
I've up till I was 50 years old, I've never heard some of this Hebrew roots nonsense.
And now in the past few years, it seems to be everywhere.
And I was wanting to hear the pastor's thoughts on that.
And if he had any resources that we could use to share to help show people that that's just wrong.
It's like this Yeshua word. It's everywhere now.
And I've seen videos in the past explaining how ridiculous it is.
I know Pastor Anderson's got a good clip out there that explains the source of Jesus and Jesus.
And with the Greek text, I was just wondering, why does he think this is becoming so popular?
How do we get control on it?
Yeah, I mean, here's the thing that my parents got involved in this.
And so I know this firsthand. Unfortunately, the Hebrew roots movement is a misguided movement that's wrong theologically.
And they really take the Jewishness overboard. It's usually coming from a Zionist group.
So I think defeating Zionism will defeat the Hebrew roots movement.
But obviously, Jesus is the name of Christ in English coming from the Greek text, which is Issus.
And there's a movement out there that's called the Sacred Name movement or the Yeshua movement.
And it's trying to say that you can't say his name in Greek or you can't say his name in English.
And I even have a Bible called the Tree of Life Version that literally says that.
Like, we're trying to replace the name of Jesus with Yeshua.
And here's the thing. Obviously, you can pronounce the English name of Jesus in Hebrew.
You can pronounce the Greek name of Jesus in Hebrew.
And I'm sure that, you know, it is either Yeshua or Yahashua.
These people don't even agree on which name it is, but most people subscribe to the Yeshua form.
But there's nothing wrong with saying someone's name in another language.
But what I take offense to is saying that his name is not Jesus or something.
And some people take this so extreme to say, like, that Jesus is wrong or pagan or something.
And that's just kind of absurd.
You know, I think that it's really clear that we have to understand that the Bible is written in Greek.
And as far as the New Testament is concerned, and the Greek literally has his name as Issus.
You can't get away from that.
Obviously, when English is formed in, you know, between 1000 AD to 1600, where we have contemporary English, you know,
it's a Germanic language, it's coming from a lot of roots of European languages.
It's going to change form a little bit, and it's Jesus, but that is his name.
And I would hope that people would be willing to really study, you know, the New Testament on this issue,
because the Old Testament was done away with, and it's been fulfilled, and Jesus Christ was that ultimate fulfillment.
And, you know, if someone spoke Hebrew, and they want to call Jesus Yeshua, okay.
But I think that English-speaking people need to go ahead and embrace the name Jesus.
And, you know, if you're Hispanic, it's Jesus, hey, no problem. If you speak Spanish, Jesus.
If you speak Greek, Jesus. If you're a native Hebrew speaker, Jesus, that's fine.
But it would be weird to say that his name is not that when you're an English-speaking person.
You know, let's speak the language that we speak and be clear on that issue.
So, I would just say, you know, dismantling Zionism typically can destroy the Hebrew roots movement for the most part.
I've seen a video of some rabbis on a talk show where they actually say that Yeshua Yeshua is a Yiddish curse word that means blot his name out forever.
Have you heard that anywhere?
Again, how can any of us know any of these things?
I would have to say that there's got to be a way to say the name Jesus in Hebrew, and a lot of people think it's Yeshua.
Obviously it's a form of Joshua. Like, Joshua in the Old Testament is Jesus.
Just like in Spanish, if you understand the name James, James in Spanish can be Jacobo, or it can be Santiago.
So it has like two forms. The same as Joshua and Jesus are two forms of the same exact name.
And so, you know, from the Hebrew. And so, you know, is it Yeshua? I have no problem with that being what it is.
I would say that Jews lie about everything. Who's a liar? But he that denied that Jesus is the Christ. He's anti-Christ.
1 John 2.22. That's one of my favorite quotes.
I wouldn't trust anything that they say. And again, I think we have to be reasonable with these people and say like, look, I'm not against you using the name Yeshua, but you need to embrace Jesus and you're English speaking.
Let's talk about Jesus, because that's the language we're speaking.
It would be weird for me to just every time I mention something about God, I only say it in Spanish or something.
What if I was like, it's Dios. It's Jesus. Like, why would I, I wouldn't do that. I speak English, right?
So to me, it doesn't make sense to make the same mistake. And these people are hypocrites.
Because that sacred name Bible that I have that someone gave me, even though in the New Testament, it changes all the names of God into Hebrew alternatives, in the Old Testament, they swap out tons of verses for the Greek Septuagint.
So these people are not ideologically consistent. They really don't even know what they're talking about. It's a fake movement.
And the people that are usually in this movement are grifters that are promoting it. And so, you know, I think it's good to call it out. But thanks for your comments.
Do you think that Jews today really do speak Hebrew or that it's a lost language and they just made up something?
Well, it definitely was a dead language. So here's the thing. How many tape recordings do we have of people walking around speaking Hebrew?
None.
And let's be honest, if I showed you the French language and you don't speak French, there is no way on God's green earth you could ever pronounce words the way the French are pronouncing words.
Because they basically don't even pronounce the last half of the word. It's the most confusing language.
So am I really supposed to believe that people could resurrect a quote dead language and have the proper pronunciation?
Even languages that are not dead, they evolve and change in form all the time.
I don't think that we lost the letters. I think that the Hebrew Bible is preserved. But as far as speaking it, you know, it's just any man's guess.
And, you know, even if they did resurrect it, what does it matter? They did, they didn't. It doesn't change anything.
The Hebrew Bible still says the same thing that it has said and that Antichrist religion rejects it and doesn't believe it starting in Genesis 1.
So, you know, it's an interesting theory and I don't mind talking about it, but to me it doesn't mean anything.
If it's Yiddish or Hebrew or if they have the proper pronunciation, it's completely meaningless. It doesn't have any benefit.
And personally, I'd be skeptical that they did resurrect it accurately.
Thanks, Pastor. Thanks, Ian.
Yeah, it's my pleasure. And let's go to, let's go down to Danica for a final question for Pastor.
Hey, thank you so much. I just, well, I had a few comments, but I'll keep it short because I know you want to wrap it up, Ian.
Pastor, how often have you had, or have you ever been to like these, it was going to tie into what Fun was saying earlier, but he left.
How often have you been to like a Southern Baptist church or how, obviously I know myself how far away from the actual word it is,
but do you genuinely believe that these people can kind of be reformed with the actual word and not like this Smoke and Pony show,
kind of Southern Baptist performance, quite frankly, because it kind of bothers me to even say that they are, you know, a true church.
I feel like it's a little bit of a Smoke and Pony show. And what do you think the steps would be to getting it to be corrected?
Because I feel like a lot of these people do push a Zionist idea or a Zionist ideology. And, you know, since you're a Baptist, I would love to know.
Sure. Yeah. You know, here's the thing. That would be a fun conversation.
I've preached multiple sermons on the history of Southern Baptists because it's so fascinating.
And, you know, the Southern Baptist Convention was literally separated from the Northern Baptist Convention, the Northern Baptists on the issue of slavery.
So they were pro-slavery. That's the only reason they even exist. That was their founding.
And then additionally, if you look throughout history, they have a couple different doctrinal statements.
So you look, they have like a 1920s version and then like a 1960s version and they have a more up to date one.
Those are to signify major issues with the Southern Baptist Church throughout history.
And in the 60s, the Southern Baptist Church got so bad and so liberal that they literally just denied like Genesis 1 as being history.
They denied Jesus as God. It's like it's like almost the Martin Luther King version of Christianity, which denies everything about the Bible and is completely fake.
That's what I'm trying to—yeah, thank you. That's what I mean, like that.
But see, the more recent—see, this is what happened with the Southern Baptists.
It got so bad, but then Calvinists basically took over and infiltrated the Southern Baptist Convention.
And now it's like basically the Southern Baptist Convention is like 50%, 30 to 50% Calvinist.
And then it's kind of like maybe 30% kind of traditional.
And then there's like a 10 to 20% that just like really crazy, radical, extreme, woke psychos and freaks.
So the Southern Baptist Convention is a conglomerate of a lot of different issues with a lot of different extremes.
You have J.D. Greer and David Platt going completely woke, emphasizing CRT, crazy weird things.
Andy Stanley promoting homosexuality like a weird pervert queer of himself.
And then you even have people in the other camp like people that are very Calvinistic and kind of dragging it into a death chamber.
But the Southern Baptist Convention in my mind is a doomed convention.
But I don't think that that means every church is bad in like a horrible way.
I think they're all wrong. They don't use the King James Bible anymore, and they've kind of gotten away from that.
A lot of them don't teach salvation by faith anymore either.
They're mixed up on works, and they're using modern versions, and they've been subverted.
Calvinism is a false doctrine. It's super evil and wicked.
Calvinism basically teaches that God endorses rape in every horrible thing you could ever think of in the world, and it's all evil and wrong.
And for me growing up, Southern Baptists were the only Baptists I even knew existed.
Now, my wife grew up a Southern Baptist minister's daughter, so she grew up in the church.
My in-laws are part of the church, and they're not horrible people.
A lot of Southern Baptists kind of came from independent Baptist similarities.
A lot of Southern Baptists that are older are usually still very good people, but this new stuff that's happened, it's getting really bad again.
And, you know, I love Southern Baptist people, and I like a lot of them, but their convention's bad.
And, you know, we need to get them onto the King James Bible. We need to make sure that they're saved.
And I think a lot of them, they're just backslidden, worldly Christians that don't want to face reality.
A lot of them are very Zionist. A lot of them are influenced by the lies of 1948, and they're giving all this money to Israel.
They've been subverted by many different groups, including the Calvinist groups, and so, you know, I avoid them.
I'm an independent, funable Baptist for a reason. J. Frank Norris separated from the Southern Baptist Convention.
Jack Heil separated from the Southern Baptist Convention.
And so, you know, the Southern Baptist Convention is not, it doesn't have good roots, and it doesn't have good fruits.
And so, therefore, I don't want anything to do with it. I hope that answered your question.
No, you did absolutely. In my younger years, I had, like, not an obsession, but I, like, hyper-focused on the Southern Baptist Church.
And I'm so happy that you actually agree with everything I was mentioning about it, because it truly is.
It's like this weird, that's what I say, like, smoke and pony show. When I see some of, like, the sermons, I can't believe this is actually true.
And people genuinely, like, they're moved by it. They're very flamboyant. It's odd to me.
But the one piece I was very curious as to how you think we should go, not we, obviously, but as a collective society, or at least, how do you think we go about reforming that?
Everything else you touched on, but I was just curious how, what do you see as something that could move to a better kind of scripture for them?
Obviously, it's the King James Bible, but, like, what do we do about it? You know what I mean? If you can touch on it.
Yeah. No, I mean, here's the thing. I planted a church in Houston. It's the first church I started. It's called Pure Words Baptist Church.
I named it because that's what the verse is in Psalm 12 that describes the Bible. And here's the thing. People will not change without the Bible.
It is the only source of renewal to the mind and the heart and the soul. And so the only cure is the King James Bible.
As long as churches are using modern versions and they're not allowing the Bible to be authority, churches will be bad, individuals will be bad, our government will be bad.
Everything comes from the source of the text and our authority in our life. And so, you know, I made a film called The Preserved Bible.
Like, I try really hard to get people to become King James and use the King James Bible, because that is the starting point.
That is where we have to get people. If we're going to change anything, it starts there. And you have to get people saved, of course.
But, you know, without the King James Bible, you're not going to see anything happening.
And people preaching the gospel, like, it's pretty much limited to people that use the King James Bible.
You don't see these modern versions. I've never had a Southern Baptist knock on my door and try to get me saved.
And, you know, these Southern Baptists are just kind of fake, and they need to realize they either need to leave the convention and become an independent Baptist using the King James Bible,
or the individuals, if their church isn't going to do it, they need to leave that and get into a good church.
And they need to go out and start preaching the gospel themselves and influencing the culture.
And, you know, that's what I'm doing. I'm doing that literally. I made a documentary, The Preserved Bible. I'm making other documentaries.
I'm making a documentary on One Nation Under God to explain basically this podcast, I mean, in a really sophisticated format with lots of different interviews.
I'm hoping to get some good guests, like big names, to be in there just to help promote the film.
And then I'm also potentially working on a JQ film to talk about the Protocols of Elders of Zion and explain.
Because a lot of people are always wondering about all these issues, and they don't, they, like, explain the book, the Protocols of Elders of Zion, and they haven't even read it.
And I'm like, I just want to put it out there so you just realize, like, this is exactly what you're saying, and this is exactly what's happening.
But, of course, you know, what will change minds and hearts is the gospel, and it comes from the King James Bible, and that's what's going to change people's lives.
You know, I lived a pretty worldly Christian life for the most of my upbringing, and what changed my life was just reading the Bible.
And that'll change, that's what's going to change people's hearts and minds, and that will change our culture and our country.
And most people don't even have to change, that's what's crazy. People don't understand that.
Even an overthrow of a government, like the Bolshevik Revolution, ninety-some percent of the population did not actively participate in this.
It's the people that have power and influence, and those individuals doing things.
You know, there's a famous quote out there, it says, the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
And because we have a cowardice, because we don't have leaders, because we don't have men standing up and rallying, you know, the right viewpoints, and rallying together on the right ideologies, we're allowing ourselves to be completely taken over.
And so, we need courageous men that aren't on the take, that don't care about the money, that just want the truth to get out there.
And that's the ultimate truth of the King James Bible in the Word of God. And so, I'm a hundred percent dedicated to that. So, that's who I am, and that's what I do.
Thank you so much.
What a wonderful way to close out this space with that statement. I mean, the whole topic, the Bible's influence on modern culture, not only where has it been, but where is it going, and how do we need it, and why do we need it more than ever.
Thank you so much for hosting this space.
You did a masterful job on this. Yeah, you just did a wonderful job. And I mean, we had, I think, around 200 to 300 people in here. I'm sure thousands listened in in totality.
I'm certainly going to be making a clip out of some of this, because some of the things that you said were just brilliant. And I'll sincerely look forward for everybody that's in here to repeating this.
We'll see if we can't work with the pastor and maybe hold a religious space at least once a month if he's available. The way that you approach these issues, it's just, like I said, it's incredibly valuable, and it's so uplifting.
And I think that comment on this being the thing that's needed more than ever is just so in line. So, thank you so very much, Pastor.
We'll certainly, like I said, do another space on this topic, kind of expand on it further. And then for anybody that's available, we've got another space coming out later today. It's in about six or so hours.
Hopefully, we won't quite go the five hours that we went on this one, Pastor. But I do sincerely want to thank you for all the time, for all the speakers that came up, everyone that's listening.
Please give Pastor a follow if you haven't already. Just a wonderful wealth of knowledge, and we'll look forward to everybody in the next space.
Thanks so much, Ian. And if you don't mind, I'd just like to say, you know, you can go to our website, sbckjv.com, and on the bottom of that, it has a video called The Bible Way to Heaven.
It's a ten-minute video. It just explains how to get salvation. And the Bible's really clear in John 3.16,
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
The Bible makes it clear that salvation is by believing in Jesus Christ and what He did. Salvation is a free gift, and it's based on the merits of Christ, not what we do.
We can't trust in ourselves to get to heaven, and many people are trying to earn their way to heaven through their works, through baptism, through their sacrifice, through the things that they do.
And the Bible makes it clear that you can't work your way to heaven. You have to accept the free gift offered to us by Christ.
We're sinners deserving of hell, and what Jesus Christ did is He took and paid for all of our sins on the cross, every sin past, present, future for every single person.
And He requires of us to do one thing, simply put all of our trust and faith that His death, birth, and resurrection paid all of our sins.
And the moment someone trusts Christ, when they call upon the name of the Lord in faith, the Bible says that they're granted eternal life and salvation.
And they can never lose that. That's the good news. The good news is that once you're saved, you're always saved. He'll never leave thee nor forsake thee.
The love of God can never be taken away from you, and you become a child of God, you're filled with the Holy Spirit, and you have eternal life currently.
And when you die physically, you'll be with the Lord in heaven. Those who die without Christ, who have never believed in Jesus Christ and put their faith in Him,
unfortunately will have to go to hell for their sins. And so it's important for people to recognize and realize this is the ultimate truth.
This is the ultimate red pill. This is the ultimate thing that the devil wants to censor, and his minions, and this is why we're seeing the culture the way it is.
This is why we're seeing the censorship the way that it is. This is why we see Marxism and communism always trying to have an information blackout.
This is why you see the nefarious groups always trying to censor the Bible. And the devil can't get rid of the King James Bible,
so he's tried to hide it in a haystack of modern versions. But the King James Bible is the Word of God. It's the truth.
It is the lightning rod. It shines out in the darkness. And I would encourage anybody and everybody.
Check out my 10-minute video. If you don't understand what I'm saying, I explained it in a little more detail.
Thanks so much for this space. I do have a small podcast. If you want to watch it, Baptist Bias, you can go to BaptistBias.com slash join.
And this space was great. I know it was a long space, but you allowed me to talk about so many different things that are really important to me.
And I really enjoyed this conversation. Thanks for the questions, guys. And I look forward to working together in the future.
And like I said, we'll certainly be running this back whenever you're available, Pastor.
So I'll certainly send you a note on the back end of this, and we'll get the next one on the books.
And until then, I just want to thank you again for everything today and look forward to the next one.
God bless. Have a good day.
You.