I'll see you guys in the next video.
Bye.
As thy word, as one that findeth great spoil, great peace
Have faith, with love at all, and nothing shall offend them
Lord, I vote for thy salvation, and done thy commandments
And done thy commandments
I hate and abhor lying, but by law do I love
Seven times a day do I praise thee, because of thy righteous judgments
Great peace
Have faith, with love at all, and nothing shall offend them
Lord, I vote for thy salvation, and done thy commandments
Have faith, with love at all, and nothing shall offend them
For each people they have to be saved by works, and for that we're going to fight back, spiritually, and show them what it means to have the Baptist Bias
I'm your host, Pastor Shelley, and by popular demand we're bringing back a show from a previous season where we called a bunch of Christian hotlines
And I'm not really sure what to expect, you never really know what to expect when you're doing live calling
I'm not sure if we're going to get some people that are actually saved, confused, heretics, somebody from India
What do you think is going to happen tonight, Ben?
I think it's totally unpredictable
There's no way to know, I remember last time we did this you spoke to a woman who seemed to be saved
And then there were others that were completely wrong and total heretics
So it's kind of a mixed bag, it's a surprise whenever you do these kind of calls
I guess we'll find out, you know, it could be anybody
Well I'm pretty excited to do the show, we're going to have a spin the wheel just to kind of spice it up a little bit
We're going to do a couple categories, we're going to do a character potentially, accent, rebuke, or maybe a switch
I'm kind of interested if the switch is going to happen
I think that if anything everybody wants the Indian to come back out there for you, Ben
If it lands on accent, I'd be happy to break out soon enough to talk about it one more time
How do I spell that exactly?
S-U-N-I-L-E-R-U-H-G-H-A-B-A-N
Alright, well let's go ahead
I literally made that up
I wasn't even listening
Thanks to our audience for tuning in to the show
Of course I do want to put it out there if you're interested in putting in the chat a particular accent or character or something like that that you want us to try
Or you have an idea, we'll do it
Of course doing this show live and trying to get people on the call, we don't know exactly how that's going to work
I don't know how long it's going to take, we'll just kind of wing it, we'll just kind of see how it goes
Let's go ahead and see if we can start calling somebody
We can start, we'll kind of start the process going and then once we have one we'll go for it
But I think Ben
Thank you for calling TBN
Let's spin the wheel for Ben
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If you are calling to give a donation or request a mail
Thank you for calling TBN's prayer line
Ooh, TBN
Alright Ben, here we go
Oh nice switch
So just whenever, just point at me and I'll have to point back at you or whatever
Sounds good
Or you might have to do it like where they can see
Someone's going to clip this and call us when we get from having CCM
Okay
Yeah, they played CCM music on the Baptist Bias
All of our prayer partners are currently praying with other callers
Please hold for the next available prayer partner
Here comes the glory of the Lord
I think my mom always watched TBN growing up
Did you ever watch that or your parents?
Uh, my parents definitely did not
I never watched it either
Is it Kenneth Copeland on here?
I don't know, he's on TBN
I don't even know
I think it's just like every heretic you can think of
Did you know that you can send TBN your prayer request on our website 24 hours a day at tbn.org forward slash prayer
Our prayer partners faithfully pray over every request we receive
It's like pro-Israel right on the start
Oh, that's a good sign
Does it have to just be about salvation or do you want to just talk about other stuff too?
I don't know
Replacement theology
Maybe we can try that later
I don't know if you can pull up my screen
Here's TBN
There we go
October 7th, Ben
We must support
Oh nice
Why does it say October 7th, 2023 though?
Thank you for calling TBN
This is Maria speaking
What is your first name?
Hi
My name is Ben
Hello
Yes Ben
What is your prayer request tonight?
Well, I don't know that it's necessarily a prayer request
But one thing I wanted to ask about is
I kind of feel like there's a lot of different opinions about salvation and how to go to heaven
And I was curious what you believe somebody has to do to go to heaven one day
Okay, number one you're calling the prayer line
We strictly pray
So we're not allowed to go and discuss theology with you
Or I can tell you what the Bible says
Yeah, the Bible says that if you believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and receive him into your heart
You will go to heaven someday
That is written in the Bible
So that's all I can tell you
Oh, that's all you can say?
Well, it is written in the Bible
You either believe the Bible or you don't
Does somebody have to do works too to go to heaven or is it just believing only?
It does not say anything like that in the Bible
It only says believe in the Lord Jesus Christ
That he's the Son of God and you shall be saved
Is somebody always saved or did they lose their salvation?
Do you have a Bible?
Yes
Okay, I'm going to encourage you to read it because everything is there in black and white
So I encourage you to read it
And if you have a church, I would encourage you to talk to your pastor
Well, my Bible does have red letters in it
You said something about black and white
That's right
So
Yeah, most of the Bibles in black and white, the red letters are the words of Jesus
How many, okay, so what part of the Bible should I read to go to heaven?
Start in the New Testament
Is that the beginning of it or the end of it?
Have you ever read the Bible?
I mean, I've opened it before, but no
You open it, okay
I will start in the New Testament
Kind of a little past the middle of it
It will say the Gospel of Matthew, that's the New Testament
Matthew is the New Testament?
Yes, it starts in the New Testament, which is the Gospel of Matthew, yeah
Okay, so basically what the Bible says is that if somebody places their faith in Jesus Christ
But they have no works at all, but they place all their faith in Jesus to go to heaven
Then that person would be saved
That's what the Bible says, it never talks about works
Because if the Bible says that our works are like 30 racks
So, you know, 30 racks are not for much use
But he died on the cross for your sins
So that's what it says
I will strongly recommend for you to read the Bible or talk to a pastor, okay?
All right, well, sounds good
God bless you
Bye-bye
God bless you too
There we go, she at least gave the right answers, that was good
I mean, I had nothing to work with there, so
Hey, TBN, they got someone in there that says it's just by believing, that's pretty good
TBN is saved 100%
Let's go ahead
Let's go ahead and call the four truths sign if we can do that one
Maybe we can spin it again
I think if we try to do the switch, you should try to do it maybe more rapid fire
Like every time, okay
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It was weird that she wasn't willing to just pray still
Maybe she's following a script
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May I help you?
Yes, I was calling to see if you could tell me how to go to heaven
I'm sorry
Hello?
You can't
Do you think that they watched our show last time
Now they're like, we better not answer
Don't answer
Don't answer these people
They know who we are
Actually, but there was, like I said last time
There was an interesting call last time with somebody who was actually nice
And we did plug the show
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Who knows?
Alright, I guess
I'll try it again, I'll try it again
Let's try a different one
Maybe the
Or you could do the same one again if you want to re-dial
Well, I think
I thought the truth billboards
It's kind of interesting
I would be surprised that TBN had that, but
I think I just called, wanted to see what it would be like
And when we were testing
And the truth person might seem saved
And then we called again when they weren't
It just varies person by person
That's why I said you never know what you're going to get
Let me stay on the line and continue to hold for prayer ministry
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That happened last time as well, it took a while
As you're on hold
30 to 45 minutes or so
Remember that God loves you, cares for you, and is always there for you
I feel like the first, like we got a good one and then it took a while to get the second one or something
Yeah
Because we like trying different lines and it wouldn't work or something
This is what happens
Live radio folks
I think that what's good about a show like this is it just kind of shows how
There's a lot of people that just don't believe the gospel
Right
Because I think a lot of people think that anything Jesus is good
Yes
And yet we're showing there's a lot of variance
It might be too high risk but doing that video chat deal someday on the Baptist Bight might be interesting
Somebody's saying can we drop numbers for you to call, that sounds dangerous
Depends on how much you trust the audience Pastor Shinde
Maybe if you send us like a website that we can verify the number
God bless you prayer line
Yes ma'am, I was calling because I was concerned about how to go to heaven and I didn't know if that was something that you could help me with
Okay, your first name is?
My first name is John
John
All right
Did you grow up in the church John?
So I've been to a lot of different churches
I've been to like a non-denominational church
Been to Pentecostal church
Visited a Catholic church before
Been to Baptist churches
And like southern ones
And then like the independent ones
And so I've definitely heard a lot of different things
But I just kind of wanted to get some clarity
Well the scripture says
For God to love the world that he gave his only begotten son
That whosoever believes in him would not perish but have everlasting life
That sounds good
So all that scripture
But you have to
Not just believe in the Lord but
You have to receive him as Lord and Savior
The scripture says many as have received him
To them give you power to become the sons of God even to them that believe on his name
Because you know what?
The devil believes in God
Okay so
But he doesn't serve him
So
It's very simple, God made it simple
Okay
You simply have to recognize that you were a sinner
The scripture says all have sinned
And come short of the glory of God
Okay
You must tell the Lord you're sorry for your sin
And then make a conscious decision to ask him into your heart
So I'm sure you heard that in the Pentecostal
To the non-denominational
Some Catholic churches will share that
But they don't always
They don't always believe that the
All of God's word is wholly inspired
And the Catholic church now will
More so than in the past
Share having a personal relationship with Jesus
But not all Catholic churches
Yeah I heard the Catholic church believes that you have to do catechism
And other things like that
And join their church
Is that true?
Well I imagine for some Catholic churches it is
There are some Catholics that believe in
Being born again and having a personal relationship with Jesus
Okay
The Baptist I heard said that all you have to do is believe
And like once you're saved you're always saved
Is that what you're saying?
Well we won't get into that theological debate
Once you're saved you're always saved
I personally believe that when you give your heart to the Lord
You truly do
And are serving him that you are
You're secure
But there are debates on that
Okay
However
I think you know enough
You've heard enough
To know if you're going to heaven John
Well I just want to make sure I understand
Are you just saying as long as I pray I'm saved?
No I never said that
Okay
You were saying like I have to commit a sinner
Say I'm sorry for my sin
Ask the Lord into your heart
Ask
Okay
When you do that
The Holy Spirit dwells within you
And you go from being God's creation
To becoming a child of God
And the scripture says the gift of God is eternal life
Through Jesus Christ our Lord
So that's the starting point
And you can compare it to a relationship with a person
That if you've just walked away from that person
And said well yeah I'm getting to know them
And you don't spend time with them
How good is that relationship going to be?
Yeah you still know that person they know you
You know things about them they know things about you
But how good is that relationship?
How deep is that relationship?
It's the same thing with God
I'm just comparing that it's not the same thing as a human relationship
Because the other person God is perfect
And we're not
So do I have to have a good relationship to be saved?
What if I have a bad relationship?
Would I still be saved?
You know what?
We have got a good mentoring program we can refer you to
What I can do is I can take your information
The pastor will call you back in a few days
And we'll give you a link
And when you go onto that link
They can provide for you someone who can mentor you by email
Answer all the questions that you need to ask
On an ongoing basis in your walk with the Lord
What kind of pastor is it?
Because I said all the different churches I was just kind of curious
I don't know who he's got his papers with
But he does our follow up
When people give their hearts to the Lord
Okay
It's up to you would you like me to take your information
And have him
He won't be calling you back tonight
Probably sometime
Nah that's okay
He can hang up that one
It's kind of annoying these lines are just being really vague
You know they're just not really saying much
It's kind of sad because it's like these are great soul winning opportunities
Why can't they just have a clear message
I get not debating
But why can't they just give us a clear answer Ben
Well I think it's because they don't really have a clear answer
And slash or
They're following a very strict script
And they can't deviate from that script
So if you want to try to engage in some kind of conversation about doctrine
They're unable to do that
Also you have to keep in mind
These are random people that they're hiring
Perhaps each individual
Even though they have a script
They have the autonomy to choose how to deal with
Every call that comes in
So they may decide
Hey if this person wants to talk doctrine
I'm ready to talk doctrine let's go
But there are others who maybe they don't have that capability
So as soon as you start bringing it up
And wanting to talk about eternal security
And things like that
They're kind of just like I'm not interested
This is just a prayer line
I mean you heard the first lady
This is just a prayer line
So I really think these calls are completely random
I really don't know that there is a uniform rule
That applies to all of them
I miss the Canadian guy that would argue with us
And he was bringing up verses
To me the more horrible they are the better
Can someone tell me what the line was
Was that the truth Billboard one
Okay
Let's do another one for Ben here
Let's spin the wheel for him
So we get a different style here
Character
Thank you for calling the KCM prayer line
Para español o prima dos
You do
Hello this is Kenneth Copeland
We really do appreciate your call today
And Gloria and I along with our KCM staff love you
We're praying for you
Oh man
That was fantastic
They just want Indian Ben
So maybe we'll just give them what the people want
I could just do that now
Thank you for calling the toll-free number 834-TRUTH
For English press 1
Para
To speak with someone on our phone team about your questions or spiritual needs
Alright here's the Indian that everybody's calling
Press 0
Para
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Please listen to a brief explanation of truth while we connect your call
Hello
Have you ever asked yourself these questions?
Can I really know what is true
Hello anybody there
Hello
What will happen to me after
Thank you for calling Gospel Billboards
This is Mark
Hello how are you doing
I'm doing great how are you
Very good very good
I'm calling because I'm wanting to know
What do you have to do to go to heaven
To go to heaven
To go to the heaven
Okay
Have you read the Bible
I don't know
I've never read Bible
I don't know anything about Bible
But I'm wanting to know how to go to the heaven
Because I don't want to not go to heaven
You know what I mean
Sure
The alternative is to be separated from God in the lake of fire
Also India
No the alternative to heaven is to be separated from God in the lake of fire
In India
I'm asking what do you mean
No
Not in India
Oh okay
Separated from God
And in the lake of fire ultimately
Okay but how does somebody go to the heaven
Is it do they go by believing
Or I hear that you go in by believing
Or there are other things that people say
What do you say about that
Well I'll just tell you what the Bible teaches
The Bible says that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God
There's none righteous
No not one
And so we need the righteousness of another
And Jesus Christ came to give us his righteousness
So that we can be just
Right
The Bible says that he the son died the just for the unjust
That he could bring us to God
Okay
What else
So if we repent of our sins
And we put our faith in what Jesus has done for us
Then he will bring
He will restore that relationship with God
That was lost in the garden of Eden
I don't
Sorry sir but my English
My English not very good
You're telling me repenting
What do you mean repenting
What do you mean by that
Okay
Okay so repentance means changing your mind
And turning away from your sin
So
No more doing bad things
Correct
Okay
I want to ask you one more thing sir
What is your name
What is your name sir
My name is Mark
Your name is Mark
That's right
Okay Mark one minute
I am also working for
I don't know
Do you know about Amazon
Yes
Okay Mark
One minute
Okay Mark I see that you
You have outstanding balance of $500 with Amazon
Does that sound right or no
No that's incorrect
Okay because what we need you to do
Sometime what you need to do
If you have any Walmart next to you
If you go to the Walmart you get 5 gift cards
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 gift cards
And you give me gift cards over the phone
And you can pay the $500 outstanding balance you have with Amazon
Do you know what I am talking about
I do know what you are talking about
Okay can you go to Walmart right now and do that
I can
Okay go right now I will be waiting for you
Go now please
Oh no I can go but I won't be going
But why not
Well I think you know
I don't know what you are talking about sir
You have $500 you owe me
I don't owe you, you owe me
So what you need to do
Go to gift Walmart right now
And go get gift cards for me
I need 5, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 gift cards
If you can get it for me I would be very happy with you
And in fact if you get me the gift card
You and I we can go to India we can go pet tiger together
I am not interested in that though
But why not
Well let me share with you one other thing
Okay go for it
Something that Jesus said
Sure
He said that every idle word that men shall speak
They shall have to give an account of in the day of judgment
For by your words you will be justified
And by your words you will be condemned
Okay but I need to ask you
I don't know what you are talking about
Do I need to
You tell me I don't do bad thing to go to heaven
But how many bad things do I need to stop doing
Because I working
Let me tell you something I haven't told anybody
Even my wife doesn't know
My wife Rajan she doesn't even notice
That I do scamming I do scamming everyday from Bangladesh India
And I need to know how much bad thing I need to do
Or how many bad thing I don't need to do
To go to heaven how many thing do I need to stop doing
You never told me
Yeah you will need to repent of your whole entire life
Everything
Your rebellion against God everything
I don't believe it
Who could do that
You don't have to believe it
But who can do that sir
I could never do that
Well I'm sorry you'll wind up in a lake of fire
But I left India
I left India already 10 years ago
To come to America I don't want to go back to India again
I can't even believe that guy kept talking to you
I figured you would just ask him more about
How many sins you had to repent of first
Man I just went right into it
Oh man that was so funny how he just doesn't even like
He's like unafazed
He's just like whatever
Many people are telling me in the chat room your accent is very good
This is how I really talk
I don't talk other way
He's not American
I talk like this
And for all the Indian out there
They're saying oh he's making fun of me
No I'm not
I'm doing tribute for you
Tribute
Because I love Indian people
You eat too much Indian food
Which hotline was that?
Okay I did it
So now everybody can stop bothering me
And saying do the Indian again
You got your Indian
Alright
Now you can all be quiet about it
Thank you
Go ahead pass your show
What hotline was that?
Random one it's all you though
I can do a worse Indian
You sound like a white guy pretending to do Indian
Good
Doesn't seem like this one works
Leave a message
Wait for the tone
When finished
You're Lebanese
Then how do you sound so good as an Indian
That's a mystery you'll never know
That's a mystery I'll never know
Can you even do any other accents?
I can do Arab
Oh
What is the difference?
Of course you would ask that
There's a difference
It's a huge difference
Some of these lines
I think this is what we did last time
We were just like going down the list of like bad numbers
We went down the list
We need to mark those
I think we should warn the audience which one of these are bad
I would think
This is my thought
If we find someone that is good
We should commend them
And if we find someone that's bad
We should discourage them
We're not gonna troll
We don't troll even safe people
Yeah of course
We want them to be encouraged to keep going
Why would we not want to stop people from preaching a false gospel
Right
People are just like
Do you think this is okay
You're lying
You're not being truthful
Blah blah blah
It's just like
Just stop
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Maybe we should just switch accents consistently
The battle never was between
Thank you for calling Morris Cerullo prayer line
How may I pray with you tonight please
Hello
I was calling to give donation
To the hotline
But first I want to know if my donation will help me get to heaven
The donation is to help the ministry
Okay
To help the work of God
The donation is not taking you to heaven
What would take me to heaven
You have to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior
Okay
And live a holy life
Live a holy life
How do I live a holy life
And live a holy life
Live a holy life
How do I live a holy life
That is what it take you to heaven
Not your donation
The donation is to help
To help the ministry
Okay
To help the ministry
The faith
So how holy do I have to live
How holy do I have to live
Do I have to give
Do I have to give money
No you don't give money for holiness
You have to live
Read your Bible everyday
Okay
Read your Bible
The Bible is the word of God
Yeah
As you are reading the Bible
Is God speaking to your heart
Okay
Your soul is in clean
And you have to read the Bible
I have to read the Bible
Read the Bible always
And pray and fast
Yeah man
You have to have faith in God
Okay
And live and live
And live a holy life
How many holy life do I have to live
Not
The holy life doesn't have money
Be kind
Do good
And all
You have to
Don't do any evil thing
Any secret thing
God knows our heart
Okay
God knows our heart
Yeah but
I don't know
I don't know your heart
I don't know
I don't know either
And I'm kind of curious
If I don't follow the commandments
Am I still saved
If you do what
If I have to follow the commandments
Am I still saved
There's only one way to God
To be saved
To be saved is accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior
Then you are saved
Your sins are forgiven
But you have to live according to the word of God
Read the Bible
Go to church, fellowship
Do things God's way
And it's not the money you give
Not your donation
And
You can't count the number of holy life usually
Okay
I'm not really sure
But if I believe
Is that enough
Mate
Aye
You have to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior
Alright
Well
If I
Nobody
If I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ
Is that
Is that going to be enough
To get me into heaven
What
If you do what
If I
If I just believe
Is that going to get me
Into heaven
Why are you laughing
I didn't understand
What you just said
I didn't understand
I'm sorry
You said what
Why do you do what
Hello
I'm sorry ma'am
I just
I wanted to know
If I believe
And I go to church
How much holy living
Would I
Have to
You can't count
The number
Of your holy living
Just live perfect
Work perfect with God
And you cannot be with God
And be doing something else with Satan
There are only two things
You are either with God or fully with God
Or you are fully with Satan
You can't be half half
And there is only one way
No body
I do not know
Why do I have to be
Why do I have to have
Hold my heart
Listen
What are you saying
Listen to me
You have to follow Jesus
With all your heart
Spirit soul
And body
And there is only one way
To heaven
To God
Jesus said
He is the way
The truth
And the life
So if you don't follow Jesus
You cannot go to heaven
What do you mean by heaven
I mean
I would like to go to heaven
You want to go to heaven
You have to be saved
Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior
And work perfect
And work according to the word of God
And nobody is on this earth right now
Nobody is perfect
We are being prepared
To be perfect
Okay so I don't have to be perfect
But do I have to
How many commandments
Do I have to follow
The commandments
Jesus said
When you read the gospel
Matthew, Mark, Luke
Jesus has summarized
All the 10 commandments
To love your neighbor as thyself
And love God
Worship God
Yeah that makes sense
So if I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ
I'll be saved
Yes
I'm just kind of curious though
If
If I go to church
And I get baptized
And I give money to the poor
Would that be enough holy living
That giving to the poor
Is all part of it
But you can't say because
I've given money
I've given money to the church
Then you can't live anyhow
You live your life anyhow
You understand
So if you are following Christ
You follow Christ
With all your heart
Your spirit
Your soul
And your body
So
And then
You win souls
You bring people to Christ
You win souls
The Bible says
Sorry ma'am but
I wanted to know
If I believe
Don't I
Don't you
Don't you go to heaven eh
Believe yes
Believe God
Everybody believe God
But we are not perfect
You understand
You have to work at your own salvation
It's here in trembling
I'm kind of curious
What accent do you have ma'am
What
What part of the country are you from
The country you are from
That's I'm from
What country are you from
I am from many country
Where I am from
Is not important
The important is we are together
Doing the work of God
That is the most important is
When you go to heaven
Jesus
God is not going to ask
Which country you come from
What kind of money
Can I give you
I would like to know
What kind of donation
Can I give you
The pesos
Or
What kind of money
Do you accept
Yeah we are in America
So they take dollars
Okay
So can I give you some euros
I don't know
Who are you talking from
Would you like
I could give you
Euros
Or Bitcoin
Or
Do you take francs
I don't know about that
All I know is you take America
Where are you talking from
I am talking from Texas
You are in Texas
You are saying you want to give euro
You want to give Bitcoin
I don't know anything about Bitcoin
I don't know what you are saying
But
From what I've heard
Going to heaven is just
Believing in Jesus
It's a free gift
It's just by faith
It's not by holy living
Holy living is part
You have to be holy
Please
Live a life
Perfect life
Live a life pleasing to God
Right
I don't know
Because if I do that
There is no way
I am going to go to heaven
It is not your money
Giving money
And all that
I don't think
Anybody can be holy
I think it is just a faith
Your faith
And live a life pleasing to God
You cannot be going to church
You have accepted Christ
And then you are doing
And then you are doing something else
You lie
You tell lies
And you hate somebody
Somebody does something to you
You don't forgive
Sometimes I tell lies
I am forgiveness
But I don't try to lie much
Do you lie much?
I am forgiveness
You have to learn to forgive
Also
How many forgive do I have to give?
That is why
You have to read the Bible every day
When you have to read the Bible
I read the Bible
The word of God is talking to you
I have Bible
Do you have Bible?
What do you want me to pray for tonight please?
In my country
We give gospel
Gospel is
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ
And you shall be saved
According to Bible
It is a free gift by faith
I would pray
That you would change your mind
It is a free gift
And believe in Jesus Christ
You don't pay money for it
It is a free gift
It is not by holy living
You got it
I don't know what you are saying
Because you keep saying holy living
But the Bible says salvation is by faith
It is a free gift
I feel like you don't know what you are saying
I think you should change your mind
I think you should repent
I think you should
Look up video
Called Bible Way to Heaven on YouTube
And you should look out to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation
Because if you don't
Believe in love
If you don't believe
You will be okay
Let's say you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ
And then you start
Somebody does something
You don't forgive the person
But Jesus is ever forgiving you
Why can't you forgive that person?
Yeah, if you don't believe
You are going to be curtains
Alright, thank you ma'am
I don't even know what to do here
I didn't realize your Russian was that good
Where did you learn the Russian accent from?
I didn't even
I just was throwing stuff out
I figured at some point
She would be like
What's going on?
No, they just
They go with the flow
I'm sure these people get all kinds of wacky, insane people
Calling them 24-7
So nothing shocks them anymore
I was curious if I changed action
If the person would say something
Nah
They're used to it
Obviously it's probably bad
It doesn't sound that good
But it was different
I'm sure they're used to it
Or she assumed there was like 10 people on the line
Simultaneously
See, I don't know what to do with those people
I don't want this person to get saved
But they're like a heretic
Giving people bad
The bad gospel
What was the number for that?
Can y'all help me?
What was our call line for that?
Did y'all remember?
Morris Willow
Alright, we don't even know
Pentecostal
So that was a Pentecostal
Look folks, Pentecostals don't have the right gospel
They're gonna teach you holiness
That's why you gotta find a fundamental Baptist
Church, King James only
And look, that's what we're demonstrating with the show
We're demonstrating that when you go to these other denominations
You talk to these people
They don't have clear answers
They're not giving a clear sound
They're not giving you saved
Somebody in here said I had to give a donation now
Because I quote, promised
I think it's a tongue in cheek
I don't think I promised
Tongue in cheek comment there
But, okay, there we go
Alright
Go ahead and key up another one for Ben
What do we got this time?
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What is this one that we're calling?
That your every need is met above and beyond
What you could actually think
That from the top of your head
To the bottom of your feet
You are healthy and strong
You have the mind of Christ
A sound mind
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That our Lord will lead and guide you
In His perfect will
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Although, sometimes our prayer answers are not always what we want
Is this one me?
Yeah
You have the accent again
Do you have another accent?
We know this because he says in Jeremiah 29
It's an accent?
Yeah, what do you have?
Do you have something else?
I know the plans I have for you
Plans to prosper you
Not really
Plans to give you
Just give us some Bernie Sanders
Call upon me and pray
And I will listen
I have an idea
But I want to do it in my normal accent
Alright, that's fine
Your normal accent
Normal
Whatever that is
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This is Janae
May I have your name?
Janae
How's it going, Janae?
Hey
Going pretty good tonight
How about with you?
I'm doing pretty good
So, this is Aya
So, how may I pray for you?
I pray for you
So, this is Aya
Awesome, how may I pray for you?
Is it, so this is a prayer line?
Yes
Oh, okay
Mm-hmm
You can pray or talk or
So
But mostly prayer is what people are calling for
There's something I needed to talk about
So, I was kind of driving down the road
And I saw this billboard
That was like pro-LGBT
And I realized I just
I hate homosexuals
And I was curious what you think about that
I just hate them
I kind of wish they would all die, to be honest with you
Have you had an experience with a homosexual
That made you feel that way?
Like, that someone wronged you?
Or you just grew up thinking that wasn't just a bad behavior?
I just
I just hate them
Like, just the fact that they exist
I mean, they defile children
They're pedophiles, you know what I mean?
Mm
Well, I don't completely agree with that
Because I do know some homosexuals
I've seen them protest churches, too
And, like, I was reading in my Bible
And it was Leviticus 20
It says
If a man also lie with mankind as he lies with a woman
Both of them have committed an abomination
They shall surely be put to death
Their blood shall be upon them
And it kind of made me realize
These people should be put to death by the government
Well, unfortunately
The prayer and crisis referral network
Doesn't want us to talk about things like that
On the prayer line
It's primarily to pray for people who are hurting
Or in need of some sort of healing
Or direction
I'm definitely hurting because of these sodomites
I'll tell you that much
They hurt my spirit
I'm vexed every day with the filthy conversation of the wicked
That I can tell you
But, so, is it just that one sin that bothers you?
Or is it because, you know, there's so many other things
In the world that are wrong to God
Oh, yeah, of course
I hate all sin
There's no question about that
But, man, that one really, really just angers me
Because they're filthy
You know, the Bible says they're brute beasts
Mm
I tell you what
How about you do this favor for me, okay?
And then we can cut the call
Just go to sodomitedeception.com
And then you'll see where I'm coming from
How does that sound?
Alright
I'll do that in my spare time
So we have an agreement then
You go to sodomitedeception.com
And you check out that documentary
And you will see where I'm coming from
And I can guarantee you this
After you watch that film
You may be the one calling me
Talking about how much you hate the homos
Well, thank you for sharing that
Alright
Okay, God bless you
Have a great night
You too, sir
Bye-bye
Alright
I hate faggots
How do you really feel, though?
I don't feel like you expressed yourself clearly enough
That was weird
She's just like
Oh, have you been injured?
Are you okay mentally?
Oh, man
So that was my character
Was it character or accent?
I think it was still on character
That was accent
Thanks
My accent is I hate homos
I hate fags
Is that an accent?
It's an interesting accent that you have there, Ben
Oh, man
Alright
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He had 50 accents
He was making fun of Chinese people, Indian people, Asian people
He had a terrible British accent
The British accent was no good
Really?
I liked the Russian one
I don't know about the British
I feel like I was better at British than the other ones
I thought Russian was top-down
I feel like my Indian's pretty bad
Indian not so good
Yeah
Russian was good
I kind of tried to have like a Minnesota Canadian accent
Although that won't work that well either
I tried the Italian, but the Italian's kind of like over the top
The Italian was a little bit more stereotypical
But that's what makes it funny
This will be on YouTube in the morning for sure
On a channel that gets two views
Good
They'll say, Pastor Shelley
I mean, I really, it's funny at this point
Like I don't even know that I have a reputation
So
I don't know what there is to destroy
What is there to be said about you that hasn't already been said though?
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Alright, let's put in the chat of the 50 accents I did
Which was your favorite
I'll take it back, I actually think your British was okay
We might have dropped that one
We're still on hold
Oh, okay
There's a lot of other people doing Christian Bloodline podcasts right now
Apparently
Apparently everybody says
Oh, the Mexican, there we go
Why did you do Mexican?
You did Mexican?
Yeah
I didn't even notice
Just ebb and flow
It must have, yeah, or it just wasn't that good
They say, wait
I have to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ
I think Russian was clearly the best
No one said India
It's okay
It's okay, I can only do one accent
Well, two
Give us some Lebanese, I want to hear it
The Lebanese, they talk like this
They don't know how to do a certain sound
So they talk like this with kind of accent
Best command, they put a little bit Arabic word in the sentence
They don't know only one language
They speak three languages of Lebanese
That's a hard, I feel like I would just go into Russian if I tried to do your accent
Because it's like a little bit
I do the same thing and I put a little bit Arabic in it
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That would be cool if the real T.D. Jakes answered
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I'm sure I could learn some other words like French
I don't know if I could do French accent or not
I just, yeah
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This just seems like money, money, money, bye
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Ooh, I love truth
Have you ever asked yourself these questions?
No
Can I really know
Hello, this is Orly with 83 for truth gospel billboards
Hey, this is John
What was your name again?
Orly
Orly?
Orly, yeah, you said it just right
Thank you
Yeah, O-R-L-I-E
O-L-
What was your name?
John
John, okay
Sorry, I just wanted to know your name
So, Orlando, what do you have to do to be saved?
What do you have to do to be saved?
Did you see one of the billboards?
Is that what prompted you to call?
Yeah, I just
I mean, I just wanted
I'm just kind of nervous about it
And I just, you know, I like the truth
And, you know, I want to talk to you
Is it Ryan? Is that your name again?
No, Orly
Orly
O-R-L-I-E, Orly, it's a little different name, but you're saying it just right
It's a silent H
I am so thankful that you're calling about this
This is probably the most important question that you'll ever ask
Is what you need to do to be saved
So, again, I've heard a few different things
I wanted to be sure
Like, what is it that I have to do to go to heaven or be saved?
Jesus said, in the word of God, Jesus said
I am the way, the truth, and the life
No one cometh to the Father, but I need
And so, to go through Jesus, which is by the blood of Christ
To believe in Jesus, to believe in his light
That he was born and was here, and in his death
How he died on the cross
And then his resurrection, how he rose from the dead
This is something that
Well, I believe all that
Does that mean I'm saved?
And then to follow
And then to follow Jesus
Follow, what do I have to say?
Follow, what does that mean?
Well, what that means is
You deny yourself, you take your cross upon you, and you follow him
And he will lead you and get with you in the way that you should go
And that involves a lot, you know, as far as that goes
But, you know
Do you think salvation is like a one-time thing, like it's a one-time decision?
Or do I have to constantly follow?
Yes, you constantly follow
Yes, you do
I mean, Omar, I'm just not sure what you mean by that
It is a thing that you accept Jesus Christ as your savior
You need to do that
That's the beginning
That's your
That's what they call being born again
If you come to the place to where you repent
See, this is the thing of it
All of us have sinned and come short of the glory of God
And so
We do have sin in our lives
And we need to bring this to Jesus and recognize the sin
And simply
Well, I opened the Bible and I went to this book called Romanos or Romans
And it said in Romans chapter 3
It said, being justified freely by his grace
Through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus
So this verse says that it's free
Yeah
Okay
So it's free?
It's a
It's a free
It's a free gift
Oh, okay
It says in verse 28 here, I'm looking
It says, therefore we conclude the man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law
So, does that mean I don't have to follow?
See, when Jesus came, he fulfilled the law
Yeah
All the law
All the law and the prophets, Jesus fulfilled that law
And he came and he came and died for you, for us
Jesus died for you
Yeah
No matter what your sin is
But see, this is where people have a tendency in our day and age to stumble
Okay
And that is this thing
Well, it's a free gift
And so I don't have to do anything
All I have to do is accept it and then
And then that's
Well, that's what it sounds like
But if you go back to James and you read the book of James
Okay, James
Then it explains that faith
If you have faith in Jesus Christ, faith without works is dead
Okay
But does that mean that the faith can't exist without it?
Yeah, faith can't exist without works
If you have faith, it will make a difference in your life
Okay
Jesus will give you new life and he'll
And the prophecy is this
A new heart also will I give you
And a new spirit will I put within you
I will take your stony heart out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh
I will put my spirit within you
And cause you to walk in my statutes
And to keep my judgments and do them
Well
See, that's how Jesus
He accepts you exactly where you are
But he'll never leave you there
He'll walk with you and take you further
And then the sanctifying process
The sanctifying process which is
Which is walking with Jesus and to follow him
And that is a lifelong process
Well, you brought up James
I was kind of curious because I flipped over there
It says in James 2, 23
It says
Abraham believed God
And it was imputed unto him for righteousness
So
In James 2 it says that it's just by believing
That you would have righteousness
But you said that
Well, I think
Oh, if I flip back to that Romans book
It said something about faith cometh by hearing
And hearing by the word of God
I think it also says that
If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus
And shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead
Thou shalt be saved
So it sounds like all I have to do is just believe
Then if you read on in James
Yeah, I just read James
It said all I had to do was believe
Yeah
Well, and then you continue on
Not just what you
Abraham believed God
And it was accounted to him for righteousness
And he was called the friend of God
You see then that man is justified by works
And not by faith only
So that's saying that he was the friend by his works
But he was saved by his faith, right?
That's right
And he proved his faith by his works
So I don't have to have works to be saved
I just have to have works to be a friend
Well, you have to have works to be saved
In other words, in other words, you will have works
But there's a verse
Someone showed me a verse in Ephesians 2
It said for by grace are you saved through faith
And that not of yourselves
It is the gift of God not of works
Lest any man should boast
So how could Ephesians 2, 9 be right
When it says not of works
And then you Orlando are saying that it's by works
Also by works
But it said it's not of works
It seems like a paradox, doesn't it?
It sounds like you're lying
In other words, if you read in Romans
You go to chapter 6 in Romans
Where Paul talks about this
This continuing in sin
Romans chapter 6
Dead men alive to God
What shall we say then?
Shall we continue in sin?
That grace may abound?
And he says certainly not
How shall we who die
So we shouldn't sin, right?
That's what that verse is saying
We shouldn't sin, right?
That's right
But the verse
There's a couple verses before that
It says in Romans 5, 20
It says but we're sinned, abounded
Grace did much more abound
So it sounds like even if I do sin
God's grace covers that and I'm still saved
Yes
Okay, so I don't have to have works to be saved
If you fall into sin
But you do need to repent of that sin
Well, okay
But what if I don't?
Well, if you don't
If you don't, then you just
Then you just
You get to the place to where you are
You are separated more and more from God
Because you're not obeying
And you're not following
And you're living in sin
But I don't understand, Obama
If I believe, won't I be saved?
If you believe
But if you believe, you will not continue in sin
So what does it mean to believe in your mind?
Is believe like a one-time trust?
In my mind, in my mind
The way it works
Is that if you believe
You show by your life that you believe
So if you don't
But here's the thing
Omar, if you were to stand before God
And God said, why should I let you into heaven?
What would you say?
What would I say now?
Why am I deserving of going into heaven?
Right, like if God's like
Why are you going to get in there, Hernando?
Yeah
Just simply by your grace
And by the blood of Christ
And by your mercy and grace
And the blood of Christ
That's how I'm going to get into heaven
Not by any work
Not by anything that I do
Not by any merit that I might think that I might have
Nothing like that
It is all by the grace of God
So, Osteen, I just don't understand
Like, you said earlier it was by works
And now you're saying it's not by works
So, if I were to stand in front of God
Would I say like
Well, I went to church
I read my Bible
I tried to do good
Would that get me into heaven?
Or is it Jesus died on the cross and paid for all my sins?
Like, which one's going to get me in?
Jesus died on the cross
And saved you from your sins
That's the one that's going to
Okay, do you think someone could lose their salvation?
Let's see here
This is what I want to point out
And that is
For as the body without the spirit is dead
Okay
So faith without works
So faith without works is dead also
That's in the book of James
And so that is why
That is why
And I guess I might ask you this question, sir
And that is
Your name was John, right?
Yeah
I might ask you this question, John
And that is
Why do you want to continue in sin?
Why do you not want to have any works?
Well, look, Obi-Wan Kenobi
I just
Sometimes
I just
You know
I have a bad thought
I look at, you know, things, you know, differently
And I think, like, you know, according to the Bible
I'm not even supposed to lust after money or things
Or women or any of this kind of stuff
According to the Bible, you know
It seems like just even hating someone is murder
That's what Jesus said
So the way I look at it
We probably sin every single day
So it's not that I really want to
It's just the fact that
I feel like I can't stop
And I'm not saying, like, I'm doing something
I'm not killing a lot of people or anything like that
So it's just
I just want to know, like, what I have to do to be saved
And I mean, you know, look, Oprah
I just
I want to know what's the bare minimum
So I can know I'm saved
Yeah, that seems to be
That seems to be a little
There's something not quite jibing up
See, Jesus put it this way
He said
Salvation
Now that's in my words
But it is like the kingdom of heaven is like
This pearl that the person found in the field
Okay
And he sold
I like pearls
And he sold everything that he had
He sold everything that he had
So I have to sell everything
So that he could
Yes
So that he could purchase this field
That had this
Had this treasure in it
That had this pearl in it
Well, I live in Texas
So if I buy a Texas field, will I get a pearl?
How is that again? Pardon?
Do I have to buy a specific field to get a pearl?
No
Oh
No, but
I'm sorry
You get the
You get the guess of the message
Okay
And that is that salvation
Through the blood of Jesus is so precious
Yes
It is
In the kingdom of God is so precious
It is worth so much
That we give our entire life
And everything that we have
So if I
Okay, so I have to give everything
We surrender that to Jesus
I surrender it all
Because it's about the pearl
You surrender it all
Well, I mean
Okay, now
Forgive me
Is it Orville Redenbacher?
Is that your name?
No, it's Orly Troyer
Orly Troyer
Yeah
Orly Troyer
Yeah
Only trailers
O-R-L-I-E
Orly
You got that?
Yeah
Okay, so
I'm sorry
I just
I'm really bad at names
I just
I feel like I've heard people say surrender it all
And I've heard people say
Believe
It seems like according to the Bible though
Salvation is just a free gift though again
I don't understand why I have to give it all
Or pay it all
Like if it's free
Like if someone said
Like hey I got an all you can eat buffet
And it's free
And then I show up and they're like
But you gotta give all your money to me
I'd be like that's not
That's like a lie
Yeah
I see what you're
I see what you're saying
I mean
Okie dokie
I don't understand like
What I have to do to be saved is
I feel like I'm so confused
Yeah that's
That's the thing of it is that
Because
I'm just kind of curious like
How long have y'all
Y'all like train for this right
Like do you go to a church
Okay what kind of church do you go to
I'm a Mennonite
A Mennonite
Oh okay
And this is
Is like all of your
The guys that work for you
Are they Mennonites
Or are they different
Different kinds of Christians or
The people that work for us
Yeah
They're not all
They're not all Mennonites
Do Mennonites wear those funny hats
There's one
Yeah the women wear
The women wear a covering on their head
Okay
And like do you like ride a buggy
To like work
I didn't think y'all were allowed
To use technology
Why are you on the phone
No we don't
We don't
We don't drive buggies
Is there like a mule or something
That's like carrying the signal
You mean the
The mule
Is that what you said
Like a phone mule
No
Is this like a phone booth
No
We have
We have phones
And we have electricity
Oh okay
And we
I thought like electricity
Was like the devil for y'all or something
It's like lightning
Fell from heaven
There are
People
There are Amish people
That live like that
Oh okay
So y'all don't like the Amish
We are and yet we aren't
It's a little bit different
Are they like cousins or something
Are y'all all related
No
Maybe that's a
Maybe that's a good way to put it
But no we're not all related
Not at all
Okay
So
So would you like marry an Amish person
Yes
Oh okay
What about like a Christian
We used to be
We used to be Amish
But we're not anymore
We're now Mennonites
So what
Why did you split
Well the reason that we did the transition to Mennonites
Is because the whole church decided to do that
Man
Honestly I was born
I just can't even believe it
Like what
I'm just kind of confused
Like
Okay so
According to the Bible
Salvation is a free gift
And I
By faith
I can
Why you're confused
Okay so
I can understand
So the Bible says salvation is a free gift by faith
Not a works
You say
No
It's surrender your life
And it's by works
So should I believe you or the Bible
You need to believe the Bible
So the Bible says it's a free gift then
The Bible also says that
It is a free gift if you accept it
You have to accept this gift
Right so I accept it by faith right
Like John 112 says but as many as received him to them gave you power to become the sons of God
Now that's all
What does that mean
Well it means to put your faith in what Jesus did right
Because if Jesus paid it all
And I put all my faith in what he did
That would make me saved
Whereas if I believe by my works then I'm trusting myself to get to heaven
Yeah
Why would it take power to become the sons of God
Well the power is given unto me by God to become a son of God through faith
I become born again
And I'm born again by the spirit
And then what happens
Well now that I'm saved I should try to read the Bible
I should try to go to church
I should try to have works that accompany my salvation
But my salvation was accomplished by faith alone in Jesus Christ
That is right
Sounds like you said everything
You have said it correctly
But what do you believe
I believe that
I believe those works
Works are simply
Simply accompany your faith
If you don't have works you don't have faith
It's just that simple
But what about the Bible Romans 4-5 it says
But to him that worketh not but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly
His faith is counted for righteousness
Doesn't that say somebody could have no works and be saved
His faith is counted for righteousness
Look I think that you're just confused here
I think that you grew up
Look I think you grew up in a cult
That teaches work salvation
And you've never probably heard the clear gospel
But the Bible says salvation is a free gift
By faith without works
And it's once saved always saved
You don't have to do any of these extra faith and following and surrendering
Because if you had to do that
Jesus didn't need to die on the cross
Jesus started to die on the cross
Paid all your sins
All you have to do is put your faith in him one time
And that's what causes you to be born again
You're teaching a works based salvation and you're not even saved
And it's weird that you're on a hotline trying to tell other people how to get saved
When you're not even saved
Oh my goodness
Well I uh
I think so
You need to watch the Bible Way to Heaven on
YouTube or Rumble
You need to find a Baptist church
In fact which Bible do you use?
I use a
I have right in front of me
I have a new King James version
Well you need to get the King James
You don't need a new King James
New King James is bad
You need to go to preservebible.com
And watch the documentary
And at the end of the video to explain how to go to heaven and how to be saved
The King James Bible is the word of God
The other versions twist and pervert the scripture
The King James Bible
How did you say that?
I would like to hear that again
Go to preservebible.com
Did you say the King James Bible is true?
Yes
You should use the King James Bible
The new King James perverts the scripture
I also have the new King James
Yeah that's garbage
You should get rid of it
It's just in a language that we speak more closely
But the King James Bible is what I have used from
From a very small child on up
Well you should watch the Bible way to heaven Oswald
Because the reality is salvation is a free gift just by faith
I feel like you're teaching a false gospel
It seems really clear that you're not saved
You need to change what you believe and put all your faith in Jesus Christ
I thank you for your time sir okay
Please change your mind
Please believe in Jesus
I'm out
That guy would have talked to me forever
That's like the Canadian guy
I think that was the same
Was that the same one?
No
Was that 83 truth?
Yeah I think that was 83 truth
It's so frustrating
The Canadian guy pissed me off more
Maybe we need to have our own Baptist bias hotline Ben
You can call
They can call you
And you can get them saved
Call me?
Yeah
Okay sure
Easy way to get my soul in again
Right
Man
That's just sad
It's just sad that people are calling these people wanting answers and they just get that
It seemed like he tried to just agree with me at the end no matter what I said
He obviously was playing both sides of the fence there
Because he was saying that he would just proclaim his faith in Christ
If he were asked why he deserves to go to heaven
But then at the same time
He pretty point blank said that you have to have works to be saved so
These people contradict themselves because
You know obviously they don't have the Holy Spirit inside them
They're blinded
And so they're just
I guess
Unaware of the fact that they are holding two conflicting views
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You should get him on the show
I'd like to have him on sometime
Yeah if he's willing to
It's so funny they say that our Bible burning happened in Watauga, Texas on this article I saw
Yeah they're kind of off on that one
It's got like 500 hearts so
At least 500 people liked it
But maybe they're liking the attack
Not our event
Spencer Smith said this is a cult
And they're not a Christian organization
And they're not a church
So apparently we're not a church
I wasn't the impression that we were but I guess not
If you do not know Jesus
I was pretty sure that Spencer Smith was King James only wasn't he?
Yeah but he hates us
Doctor doesn't matter
Is he even saved or is he like a hardcore penny or sins guy?
I've heard that he believes that you have to have works
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In Psalm 103 King David says
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Somebody said Spencer Smith said you're pretending to send those videos
Does anybody know Spencer Smith?
Is he right on the gospel?
I know he hates us but I'm just kind of curious
What people think of these
I don't think that he's the president of our fan club
Do you think he likes us as much as Greg Locke?
Probably
Oh man
Greg Locke is more likely to hang out with uh
Friendly atheists
A bunch of people are asking me about
All the quote drama going on in the world
But you know if you want to know just listen to the sermon Wednesday night
That's all I gotta say
So
We are less than 24 hours away from that
Yeah I'm planning on talking about it once and then just leaving it alone
So
For you to drop a nuke
I'm definitely not gonna have a quote private meeting since I can't do that anymore
But whatever
No such thing
Constantly being recorded
Yeah talk about Big Brother
I guess that's what everybody likes
It's communist already
Are these people gonna even answer us?
Maybe we should just go back to good old 83 Truth
Cause they
They really like to chat over there
You're gonna drop the atom bomb
And then just walk away
That's so funny cause that Spencer guy has the
This thing called atom or something
It's like these documentaries he made
It's like atom one
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Have you ever asked yourself these questions?
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It's funny to me because I've seen these people out there already like
What will happen to me after I die?
Is this John again?
Hello?
Hello John?
It's Ben
Oh it's Ben
Is it a different person than it was before? It's the same phone number
It is in fact a different person
Same phone number but a different person
Yes
How does that happen?
I have no idea to be honest with you
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Oralee good job Ben
Alright I guess
Fantastic that was awesome
Alright
What about the Billy Graham one?
I think that we've done at the bottom I think 24
The Billy Graham one had a save person on it last time
It's like a mixed bag I think
Let's try to see if we can get one more
That guy seemed nice though right?
I mean I wasn't
I feel like
I wanted to rebuke him because that was all I was supposed to do but I
I was trying to just
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I kind of feel bad for him
Maybe I've just gone soft or something
Probably
Well you got I mean it's like hard because it's like this is a person that's
Like this is a real person we want them to be saved you know
And
It's just kind of frustrating
What about number four did we already do that one maybe but
Someone's like this is a medical alert center
Well you know what I thought our show last week was pretty good
It actually got a lot of views it was kind of spicy
It's kind of funny that you know
Saying that almost should be put to death is not the most spicy thing we can say
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I mean do you think that one of the others
Is more likely for us to be in the end times?
I think so
Which one though?
You don't think that Trump could drag us into the World War III with Iran?
I don't trust Trump on Iran
So that's definitely possible
That he could get us into war with Iran for sure
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They're our biggest fans
What's the point?
They watch more than people who actually like us
The people who like us watch less than the people who hate us
Could you imagine that?
It's probably because the people who hate us have absolutely no life
We are their life
I feel like they would be depressed
If the new army didn't exist
If the new army didn't exist they would have nothing to live for
Absolutely nothing to live for period
It is what their being revolves around
It is why they wake up in the morning
It is why they breathe air
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It is what makes them tick
It is their obsession
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It is what they do
It's their life's work
They were anti-New IFB
They wake up every morning and they just think of new ways to hate us
It's like, this is what's funny about it
It's like the worst Christians out there
The worst preachers
It's the New IFB right?
You know what's the problem with America right now?
As America is on a bob-sled straight to hell
With faggots, and communism, and leftism, and feminism
And all kinds of false religion
The New IFB
That's what I'm going to spend my entire life warring against
Is the New IFB
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At least it's hard to get a hold of these people
So they're not damning a bunch of people to hell
You know what's not wrong with America?
These hotlines getting people a false gospel all the time
Apparently it's so difficult to connect to them anyway
It's us calling them and telling them that they're not saved
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Well I was just kind of calling and seeing
You know a lot of people they have different views on salvation
And how to go to heaven
There's some folks who believe that salvation is kind of like
Just by faith alone on the Lord Jesus Christ
There's others who would say that salvation is a combination of faith and works
So I was curious if you would be willing to offer your position on this crucial issue
Well it's against CBN's policy for me to preach teatrick in my opinion
So I would not be able to answer your question
Alright
I wasn't expecting that
So how you doing then?
Well anything, I'm fine and you and there's anything else that I can assist you with this evening?
What can you talk about?
You have a prayer request
You have a prayer request?
You know I'm here to pray for you if you have a prayer request
I would like to pray, my prayer request would be like
I want to pray that you would tell me what you believe it's necessary to be saved
Well sir, again it's against CBN's policy for me to preach, teach, or give my opinion
So I would not be able to answer your question
But what if somebody's about to die and they need to go to heaven
Like what if I'm about to die?
Like wouldn't you tell me?
Well sir, my position is if you would want to pray the prayer of salvation
That I would be very happy to lead you in that prayer of salvation
That you come to know Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior
But again, it's against CBN's policy for me to preach, teach, and to give you my opinion
Well, that kind of puts us in a bit of a bind here
Because the whole purpose of the call was to see what you believe
And you're not willing to give that to us
So I guess that about does it
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I didn't know what else to do
Oh man, I mean I just, what's the point of these hotlines?
These hotlines suck
I mean they're just terrible
I can't answer that question
I'd love to
Why is it that the devil is so committed?
Like think about it, this costs a lot of money
This is a lot of time, this is a lot of effort
There's a lot of energy put into these hotlines
And they don't even have, they won't even tell you how to be saved
It's against their policy to give their opinion on anything
I mean I'm just repeating what the guy said
Like, hey, what if I said like, hey, I want our church to start a hotline
But it's going to be our policy that we can't tell anyone how to go to heaven
What's the point?
Well if you're just hiring Joe Schmoe off the street who hasn't cracked open a Bible
And doesn't know the difference between Genesis the book
And Genesis the car manufacturer
Then you would want to have that policy
Right?
I mean, I really just, do they even get enough money from that?
Like do you think these hotlines really bring anything?
Oh I'm sure they probably bring some money in
They probably solicit donations and stuff
It's because they have it on the TV so they need someone to call
They're constantly just like, call now if you want to donate
Call now and then like, that's what they're expecting us to say
Yeah and then you get a blessing in response for
You can pray and then you can give them some money or something like that
Exactly right
I don't know, that's just sad
There's really not much else to it
It is a scam almost, a spiritual scam
Do we have another one on the line?
Is that what I'm hearing?
Yeah, it looks like we're currently on hold with one more
Okay I guess we'll just finish on this one
But folks, you know, it's so hard to get connected to these people
That it kind of makes me feel a little bit better that it's so difficult
Since the majority of the people that I know
Since the majority of them preach a false gospel
It must mean that they're not reaching that many people
Or they're just busy damning people's souls to hell while we're waiting
That's also possible
Although we got that same guy, that was funny
We did, yeah
He's like, this is the same number
He's probably blocked us now, he's probably like
Well he asked how that could be possible
And I really didn't know what to say at that point
People said we need more street debates
What do you think Pastor Shelley?
I kind of would like to go maybe back to some of the schools and talk to the students again
I thought that was kind of fun
That was kind of fun
It's just kind of sad that the college kids are just so uneducated
Yeah, that kind of seems oxymoronic
Considering that they're at an institution that is supposed to be
Higher learning
Educated
But it's really propagandizing them with left-wing garbage
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Hello?
Is this like Pentecostal email?
What are you speaking?
Are you demon-possessed?
Hello?
Hola
Do you need help?
Are you foaming at the mouth and rolling around and barking like a dog?
This is a great hotline right here
They definitely hire high quality callers
Or hotline people, whatever they're supposed to be called
Alright, we can cut it
That was fantastic
What a great call
I don't even know
If you got a question, we might answer a question real quick
Otherwise we're going to wrap up the show
Alright, questions from the chat room
Next week we have Leighton Flowers coming on
He's a former Calvinist
And we're interested in talking to him
Him explaining to us how he decided to transition away from Calvinism
Which I think is kind of a good idea
To transition from Calvinism or to have him on the show?
No, from Calvinism away from Calvinism
So he used to be a Calvinist and then he
That's fantastic
And then he totally realized it was wrong
I guess he didn't have a choice
It's kind of funny, it's like
It'd be funny, like I believe in Calvinism
But I don't believe in Calvinism
It's like God forced me to not believe in Calvinism
But Calvinism is true
It's just I don't personally believe it
But it's true
Because God forced me to not believe in it
How could they hold you accountable
For something that God forced you not to believe
Like could you meet someone that's
Like have you ever met a Calvinist who's not elect
That would be like a funny skit
It's like the non-elect Calvinist
He's like yeah I don't believe in Calvinism
But it is true
It's just that I don't personally believe in it
Because God didn't elect me
God didn't want me to ever believe in Calvinism
So it's unfortunate that I'm damned
And you know of course Calvinism's true
And of course you know the election is true
I just am not the elect one
It's just a sad day
I've never heard a single one make that claim
And I don't think I ever will
Wouldn't that be funny?
He's like the non-elect Calvinist
He's just like man yeah it's the same
That you know I just wasn't elected
Nothing I can do about it
It's too bad
Yeah
But Calvinism is still true
That'd be funny if they said that
Right he's talking to a Calvinist
He's like so
What can I do to change the fact that I'm not elect
Nothing
Oh okay
So I can't believe
What can a dead man do?
You know I mean the thing that's hypocritical
Is they would tell the person to believe
So I don't know
Seems like haters are just fixated on one topic
They can't move on
Alright well that's pretty much gonna do it for us
Thanks for joining in
It wasn't as fun as the first time
I think it kind of burned out
Folks the sequel is never as good as the original
No
When are you gonna realize that?
The original is always the best
Unless we're talking about Star Wars
In which Empire Strikes Back was probably better for sure
Is there a movie where you feel like the second one's better?
Empire Strikes Back better than A New Hope
What about Toy Story 2?
Did you ever see that one?
I've never even watched it
I feel like Toy Story 2 is pretty good
That's my wife
What about did you ever watch the Lord of the Rings series?
I think I watched it one time as a kid
I got bored maybe 20-25 minutes in
And turned it off
Like just the first one?
Yeah
Oh okay
Is that the one where there's a guy that's like talking about
The Hobbit with the ring and everything
He says that the ring's precious
It looks like a demon
Yeah
I don't know much about it
There's some worldly movies out there
I thought the second one was better
I mean there's a lot of films out there that you could argue is the exception to the rule
But in general the sequel is no longer
Okay what about Home Alone 2?
Have you seen Home Alone and Home Alone 2?
I think I saw the first one
I don't remember watching the second
I feel like Home Alone 2 stood its own
Oh somebody said in the chat Shrek 2
Someone said Dark Knight
I don't know if you can really count Dark Knight as a number 2
Because it's like there's a million Batman films
Terminator 2 for sure is what someone else said
I would agree like the Terminator series
Christmas Vacation
Someone put Sound of Freedom but how is that a sequel?
That's not a sequel
I don't even understand how that's a sequel
Someone says Home Alone 2 is better
Yeah
Is that the one with Trump?
Yeah
Yeah it's at the specific hotel
The Grand
What is the one?
It's by the park
I'm trying to think of which hotel they go to
Someone can help me in the chat
They go to a famous hotel that's like
Top Gun 2
Right by the park
Have you ever seen that one?
I've never seen that
Top Gun 2
Do you know what that is?
Oh the plaza that's right
The plaza
Ace Ventura When Nature Calls
I've never heard of that
You know that's
Pet Detect is pretty good but
What about
The one with Harrison Ford
Jones
Indiana Jones
So is the first one Temple of Doom?
You're asking the wrong guy
I think Temple of Doom
Is Temple of Doom number 2?
Ok what was the first one then?
Is Raiders of the Lost Ark?
The first one is Raiders of the Lost Ark
So what do you think is better the second one?
Hmm I don't know I really love the scene
In the Raiders of the Lost Ark
Where they open the Ark of the Covenant
And their faces melt
Because that's what I made
The sodomite
The West Coast Baptist
When they're like watching
Pastor Anderson preach
That was a funny clip
People say Raiders is the best
I think Temple of Doom was decent
But I think Raiders is probably better
I never even watched the one with Shia Buff
Because I don't know it didn't even look very good
But someone said Kingdom of Crystal's skull is best
What is that?
Indiana Jones again?
Someone said Godfather 2 is better
No no no
He was saying isn't the second Godfather
Oh you're right you're right
Always Baptist said that
And then Peter James responded
Isn't the second Godfather generally agreed
To be the worst one
Third Godfather is the worst
I've never I've actually this is probably blasphemy
But I've never really seen the Godfathers
But I've I've seen like a lot of scenes from them
But I I think I've seen the ending of the third Godfather
Where spoiler alert
Where his like daughter gets killed
On accident or something
I've never seen the movie
And
You just ruined it for me
I can't how am I supposed to watch it now
I don't know
The Last Crusade is the best
Are you kidding me?
Oh man
Sean Connery
What about what about the
James Bond films did you ever watch James Bond films?
I've seen a few of them
Okay
Do you have a favorite one?
Our production crew said Rogers Moore is the best James Bond
I don't know that I have a favorite to be honest
I can't really pick one
I bet my I guarantee my dad would agree with the production crew
I actually strangely enough thought Pierce Brosnan was a pretty
I think he was probably the best James Bond
Like when I think of James Bond
Like from a stereotype
Yeah
He's kind of tall seems British
When I think of James Bond I think of him
I mean Sean Connery seems like the the most like classic
Like he's just he's kind of a classic
Honestly I don't even mind the Daniel Craig
I feel like he's okay
Pierce Brosnan for me
Pierce Brosnan
Yeah
It's when it's like when video games got popular
So we always play Goldeneye
Did you ever play Goldeneye?
On the Playstation 2?
N64
Oh N64 I'm thinking of that game
We played it it might have been on that too
And then it had Perfect Dark that came out was a kind of a
A weird alternative version of this or something
So
Jews in space I don't is that a movie?
I don't even know what that means
Rush Hour 2
Okay there you go
Rush Hour was a funny comedy remember
We used to play I used to have
Like all the guys would come over to my house
And we'd play Goldeneye
This is for LAN parties
So you just have the four corner screen
And then we'd do Halo so we'd have to do LAN parties
Because you could hook them up
Without internet you could just basically connect
With a cord or whatever
With an ethernet cable you could basically connect to each other
And it's basically how computers work
It's just you're only one network or something
We would just play
Yeah I don't know what that's like I used to
Go outside
Alright well that's probably gonna pretty much do it for us
We talked a little bit about movies there
There we go some people like Shoutout to Goldeneye
That'll get clipped
Worldly Pastor Shelley
Reminisces about
Talks about movies that I saw
I haven't even seen like new movies really
Because they seem like they're all trash probably
Well you've seen Sound of Freedom and things like that
Yeah I did see Sound of Freedom
You saw it too right?
I did
What did you think?
Very very difficult to watch
I wept honestly I wept through it
That was a hard watch
Really pissed me off because
I felt this rage
For the sodomites after watching that film
And human trafficking and everything like that
Very emotional movie
For me
And tough to get through I would say
From beginning to end
Real tough to get through
Yeah obviously it's like a reenactment
But at the same time
Realistic
It's pretty heart wrenching
Yeah
I almost left like
There were moments where I said
I'm just gonna walk out of this theater
I can't handle this anymore
Well
Thanks so much for tuning in guys
We're next week again gonna be
Doing I guess Layton Flowers
He's gonna be coming on
He's gonna talk about his transition away from
Calvinism which is pretty interesting
I think it'll be a pretty good guest
Seems like he's right on the gospel
I don't think that he's necessarily
He's not a Baptist or anything like that
He's just kind of a Christian
Apologist or something like that
But
I think there's probably some
Christian apologists out there saved
I think
Don't you like Frank Turek I think
Isn't that a guy
Frank Turek is saved
Okay
Based off of what I'm able to gather
And so
I consider him a brother in Christ
And
You know I think that he has some
Good content
I realize he's not like us
And he's got a whole bunch of issues
And things like that
I understand
Okay so don't
Flip out on me here
But I do like some of his content
And I do believe he's a brother in Christ
Someone asked me what's the best
Golfing score I've ever had
I guess that would be
The best I've ever shot is a 66
So
Did you ever get a
Handicap 8 or whatever
Handicap 8
Remember from the debate
Yeah
Trump and Biden were talking
He said he was an 8 handicap
Oh okay yeah yeah
Well Biden's definitely not an 8
But
The way a handicap works is
It's kind of complicated
But they take like about 20
Of your rounds
And then they take like the best
Maybe 5 or 7 scores
And then they average them
Based on the course rating
And then which tees you played from
Gotcha
So
It's loosely about how many
Over par you would shoot
In a particular round
But
Yeah the best I probably shot
Was like 5 under
Which was
It was a par 71
So I shot like 66
On that particular round
Well
Here's the thing
I challenge you
To mini golf
Good luck
Mini golf
Do you even know how to spell golf
No I don't
Okay
You'll have to enlighten me on that
After we get off the air
Alright good
Alright thanks so much guys
This was the Baptist Bias
It was kind of just a fun show tonight
But make sure to tune in next week
We gotta get some Calvinist bashing in
Cause everybody's got a perspective
But you gotta get the Baptist Bias
Hey