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Well, I'm really excited about this topic.
Of course, the New World Order is a big thing that a lot of people are talking about.
And really, there's been a lot of people that are fighting back on this particular issue.
Of course, probably one of the biggest people pushing back has been Alex Jones in InfoWars.
And I'm excited about a guest we have from the contributor from InfoWars, Brian Wilson,
who's going to be joining us.
He has a channel, Red Pill TV, that is on Band.Video, and you can check him out.
But he's going to be on the show this evening.
We're going to bring him on.
Hey, Brian, how's it going?
Good.
I really enjoyed that catalog.
I thought that was excellent.
Well, we're excited to have you on the show and I got to see one of your interviews where
you interviewed Pastor Stephen Anderson on the King James Bible.
And that was a really interesting discussion.
Why did you end up having him on the show?
Well, that was an early question I had on my kind of resents in the past four years
conversion, reconversion to Christianity.
I was raised a Christian, went to a bunch of different churches, a Baptist church for
the longest time, then kind of became an agnostic and then kind of an atheist and then an agnostic
again.
And since working at Infowars, I can actually attest that Alex Jones did help me rediscover
Christ.
And when on that journey, back to your question, the question becomes, well, how do I know
which Bible is telling the truth?
How do I know which Bible to go with?
How do I know what can help be that stone to build upon, like a Christ figure, and that
becomes the Word?
And so I began looking at all the different Bibles.
Where does this one come from?
The Douay Rheims, and then there's the Vulgate, and you have all this, Sinaiticus, all these
different Bibles.
And when you really get down to it, there's basically three different roots for the Bible.
You have the received text, which is that old recipe that just goes back to the beginning
of Christianity.
But you also have the Vulgate, or, yeah, I think that's the other one.
But anyway, and then there's Alexandrian, which is basically irrelevant because it's
non-existent.
And in this battle of the Bibles, I determined and believe that the King James truly is the
closest we're going to get to the Word of God.
And the question doesn't really come with the Hebrew text as much as it comes with the
Greek text.
The Greek text is what you really are looking at when you're thinking about which of the
modern translations or which of the, you know, in the past 2,000 years translations, it all
is having to do with the Greek, because you can look at the Hebrew.
You can look at the Hebrew based on different Jewish, you know, ways that they've preserved
the Hebrew Bible, and the Greek really became the pivotal thing.
And again, the King James, the received text, it's really what it is.
And the King James, why the King James out of all the different received texts?
And I was just so impressed by Pastor Anderson, a documentary that he was a part of that delved
into the history behind how King James developed his Bible.
Because a skeptic who is aware of the New World Order might say something like, "Well,
how can you trust that King to have made a Bible?
What if he's a deceiver sent out to deceive the world?"
And it all comes down to the view of, can God preserve His Word, or did God leave us
here to wander about bumping around in the dark, not sure of what His Word is?
Did He leave His Word to be discovered 1800 years after Christ's life?
That is just totally illogical to me.
So it became the received text.
It's got to be the received text.
It's the most in agreement with all the different translations in different languages.
I've heard a comparison with recipes, like if you were to give someone a recipe and they
use the recipe so many times that the paper wore out that they wrote it on and so they
transcribe it onto another paper and then say they have a French friend and they want
the recipe and so you translate it meticulously into French so it's the exact same way.
Well that's my view with the received text.
It went out into the world into those churches of Asia Minor and then off some reports even
saying that the gospel went all the way to Japan which I think it probably did.
And so that's how I came to rest on the received text and the King James Bible is built on
all these English translations before Wycliffe and I think it was called the Bishop's Bible,
Geneva Bible, etc. But anyway, that's how I came to find Pastor Anderson.
Well, that's cool that you ended up finding a documentary of his, The New World Order
Bible Versions which I think was in 2014 and we even have a clip that I want to play.
I really like your recipe analogy and what would be funny is if you know the recipe at
the top it says recipe for chocolate chip cookies and then when you follow the instructions
it turns out to be a fortune cookie.
We realize that there's probably something that got screwed up along the way or it's
saying like put some strange ingredient into that particular recipe you could kind of notice
like hey there must be something wrong here and that's definitely what you can see with
some of these modern Bibles where they're inserting things that are just strange, unusual,
things are missing and you're not getting the same product, you're not getting the
same dessert as it were and I think they really even kind of put this new world order agenda
into the modern text.
I think that's a clip we have.
Let's play this clip real quick and see what some of these modern Bibles are like.
There is going to be a change over from the old order to a new order, a rule by Satan
himself.
That's what that symbol refers to and that's what the new world order refers to.
In the King James, 2 Corinthians 5, 17 says, "Therefore, if any man be in Christ, he is
a new creature.
All things are passed away.
Behold, all things are new."
Notice how the new English Bible renders this verse.
It says the old order is gone and a new order has begun.
They're using the same language.
The King James says, "Which stood only in meats and drinks and divers washings and carnal
ordinances, imposed on them until the time of the Reformation," talking about Christ
coming.
But notice the NIV calls it, "until the time of the new order."
They're preparing people.
Now, I want you to notice this.
In Isaiah 28-16, in the King James, the Bible says, "Therefore, thus saith the Lord God,
'Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation of stone, a tried stone, a precious stone, a
precious cornerstone, a sure foundation.'"
This is referring to Jesus, right?
And I want you to notice that in the King James, they're telling you that Jesus is
the cornerstone of the foundation.
Now where's the foundation in relation to a building?
On the top or the bottom?
It's on the bottom, isn't it, okay?
So when they say that Jesus is the cornerstone of the foundation, that's down here, right?
"Unto you, therefore, which believe he is precious, this is the King James.
But unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is
made the head of the corner," again, on the foundation.
Notice that the NIV calls him the capstone.
You're saying that that symbol that you see represents Christ.
It doesn't.
It represents who?
Anti-Christ.
I pray that you will stay, however, my friends, with this great book, the Word of God.
This truly is what we need to turn to.
The time is short, a great falling away from the truth.
It's happening.
It's right here now.
And that was a clip from that film, New World Order Bible Versions, and it's kind of a powerful
scene that the music's pretty epic there.
But we see that agenda of New Order constantly being put in there.
Was that kind of an interesting thing for you, Ben, when you watched this film for the
first time?
Is that something that kind of stuck out to you with this New Order in the text?
Yeah, because I didn't think that those Bibles said anything close to that.
And so to see the preacher go through and show the text and the conditioning for the
coming New World Order, that definitely caught my eye and made me think, all right, something's
up here and it caught my attention for the rest of the film, absolutely.
Mitch, and I guess for you, you know, Brian, I'm assuming you've watched a lot of Alex
and your days and so he's obviously talking about the New World Order.
So when you see that in the Bible or these modern versions, is that something that you
would just really kind of caught you off guard?
Yeah, I mean it's the realization that Satan is working in power in high places and he's
not just outside of the church, he's in church, he's corrupting every church that's out there.
It doesn't matter if you're Baptist or Pentecostal or Catholic or Orthodox, Satan and his legions
are in your church and they're screwing it up and they're messing with these Bibles.
And whether it is messing with it for this New World Order establishment or kind of trying
to change the Ten Commandments, as we've seen with some Catholic catechisms changing the
commandments, it's alarming.
One of the things that brought me back to Christ was realizing how real evil was.
And it put me in a bad place that only Christ could have brought me out of.
And yeah, part of it is exactly what you're saying, realizing that not only is Satan penetrating
every government, every society, every people all over the world, he's going straight for
the family jewels, he's going right for the Bible.
He's going to screw it up, get in everyone's heads, make us all bicker now.
Now we have to have whole conversations debating why the King James is true.
We can't just have the Bible be there and be true.
Now we have to debate between six different Bibles and all the while we're wasting our
breath when we could have been talking about the gospel and winning souls.
I feel like it's like an advanced Christian discussion to be having about the Bibles.
If you're talking to someone that's not a believer, maybe that's not the best place
to start.
Maybe the best place to start is with the love of Christ.
Does that make sense?
I don't know if that answers your question.
Yeah, no, I think that makes a lot of sense, and honestly, unfortunately, this fight is
something that's always happened, and it's sad that we can't just all believe what the
Bible is or acknowledge what the scripture is, but Jesus Christ said that He is the way,
the truth, and the life, and we understand that the Bible is the truth, so of course
the father of lies is going to always try to attack that.
Even in the beginning of time in the garden, the devil said, "Yea, hath God said," putting
doubt on the word of God, trying to deceive Eve into eating the "forbidden fruit."
It's really a full skill attack.
It's sometimes difficult to convince people that have grown up with a different version,
and you said six, there's really, it feels like 600 different versions out there, but
a lot of people are kind of loyal to their NIV or NLT or some of these other modern translations.
It seems like that conversation can be difficult at times, and so we even ended up making another
film with Pastor Anderson about the preservation of scripture, because I think that another
important point is just that if God has promised to preserve His word, which He did in several
places in the Bible, then it would make sense to me that we would have it today and that
it would be exactly what He gave us, not just the ideas or generally speaking, but it's
actually exactly what God wanted us to hear in His words and that's what we believe the
King James is.
It's God's words preserved in English and so we made a documentary about it, it's preservebible.com.
You can go there and watch it.
I wanted to play a quick clip from this because here's the thing, obviously the devil would
love to get into the church and stop people from even having the right Bible, but I see
an agenda where the devil also wants to use political forces to stop the Bible from being
spread.
I have a clip, it's about the death of William Tyndale and specifically what I find interesting
about this is how through time past, especially around the time of the King James Bible, the
government was being used by the devil to stop people from having the scripture, having
a Bible, really trying to restrict the Bible to the Catholic version, which the Latin had
serious issues and was not coming from the received texts anymore.
And so I want to show a clip from our film here to show how some people were just being
heavily persecuted by government and the Catholic Church specifically and restricting them
having a Bible.
So William Tyndale produced the first modern English translation of the Greek New Testament.
William Tyndale, a brave man who fought against the Catholic Church, didn't want the Catholic
Church to dominate the Bible and wanted regular people to have it.
Here's a quote from him.
I perceived how that it was impossible to establish the lay people in any truth except
the scripture were plainly laid before their eyes in their mother tongue.
William Tyndale said I can't teach anybody any truth until they have the Bible in their
language.
Now how true is that today?
Because the Bible, his Bible was forbidden in England, anything that came into England
in Tyndale New Testament, they would destroy it, burn it and so forth.
So he began to smuggle copies into England through bales of cotton and things like that.
Tyndale was printing a Bible into English against the authority at that time, the Catholic
Church, and he was hunted down and he was literally killed for having given us a Bible
in English.
He lived in obscurity then while he was in Europe and was able to keep hidden, but he
was betrayed by someone who knew him and they arrested him, charged him and he was burned
at the stake in 1536, strangled first and then burned at the stake.
He was tied to the stake and burned to the stake and in his dying breath he said, "Lord,
open the King of England's arms."
That was a clip that we had from one of our films that we recently released this year
on the preserved Bible and I think it's a powerful section of the film when we talk
about how men like William Tyndale who wanted to give the English people, English speaking
people a Bible in English and was being hunted down, persecuted by the Catholic Church,
by the political forces at that time and they literally killed him.
They strangled him and then burned him at the stake for just wanting to give people
a Bible and just have it be translated in their language and so I think that if you
really study history well, this fight is always present in every generation where people are
having to figure out where even the Bible is and that the devil really wants to stop
people from having the scripture and of course, you know, God's going to still win in the
end.
William Tyndale's words we're all reading because the King James Bible is 85% exactly
William Tyndale's work and so his work still lives on and we're still reading the words
of William Tyndale and I think that that's a powerful message of how even the devil through
his new world order back then failed and we still have the word of God today but it's
a battle that we need to continue to fight and we need to have William Tyndale's of
this generation that are willing to fight the spiritual battle and to get the truth
out there and even put their life on the line in some cases.
So you know I don't think you had seen this film yet but I highly recommend you know further
study it got some more information and it's got people like Pastor Anderson in the film
some other people we interviewed and so what do you think about this idea though of people
literally dying for the Bible is that something you've kind of seen in your research?
Oh yeah like studying the martyrs of Europe whether it's Tyndale or Hus who said when
he was being I guess burned you may have cooked this goose because his name meant goose in
German and he was trying to make a German translation but in a hundred years one will
come that you can't so easily put away or something like that and sure enough a hundred
years later you had Martin Luther who we we're standing on the shoulder shoulders shoulders
of giants not literal giants but these men stuck their neck out there fought for us to
be able to have this Bible and I don't mean to give a black pill in the middle of that
but and it seems like very little people even care like our whole country is based on knowing
the Bible and wanting to establish freedom of religion here for all the different Christian
sects you know as it as it were early on and we're just standing on the work of these giants
that were burned alive and no one even knows their names no one even studies how like the
average man back then studying the Bible knows so much more than just average random preachers
throughout the country and it seems like yeah I mean it's it's remarkable these men and
yeah Tyndale was one of the martyrs that I I kind of did a brief reading of all these
different martyrs throughout European history starting with the Waldensians who were kind
of early on sects that lived off in the mountains and of northern Italy and then France and
then I think they were the prototypes or whatever to the who were the ones that were
all killed and the Huguenots in France so they kind of can't they kind of morphed into
that and then they were all like what you were saying governments persecuting people
yes the Catholic Empire Roman Catholic Empire was a state and church that persecuted Christians
if you can imagine and then you also have like just regular secular governments like
French you know Napoleonic France France just murdering one in one night tens of thousands
of Christians just blood in the streets I mean and so we're standing here today on all
of this all these hundreds of years later and I don't mean to be black pill instead
of red pill but yeah it seems like the odds are it seems like Satan has been very successful
well if you forget history you repeat it right and so I think that I think a lot of people
forgot like why we even have the country that we have the whole reason we even have the
country we have is because Christians wanted to get away from the persecution that was
in Europe Catholic Church and other institutions like this I mean some people don't even realize
that the Georgia State Charter it was it was basically illegal to be a Catholic you couldn't
even be a Catholic in Georgia in the state of Georgia and I think that some people forget
the context of which the Constitution was written where the federal government obviously
can't impose a specific religion or specific church on someone but these people were highly
religious very Christian oriented all believing the Bible and for sure they weren't trying
to extend religious freedom to atheist and Hindus and Muslims and all these other crazy
religions that was never their envision for this country.
It was simply they wanted to escape the overbearing false prophet church and the heretics of the
Catholics that are killing them for simply just wanting to even have a Bible.
Of course there's going to be reasons why people should be put to death for murder and
certain extreme crimes but for wanting to give someone a Bible that's a crazy and extreme
punishment that we see really just coming from the heart of the devil himself.
Oh yeah and like Massachusetts had a state religion early on and then they changed that
and then it was freedom of religion and it kind of is like a similar thing with God like
people constantly especially atheists are like if God's real why do bad things happen
and that's such a basic question not realizing that we've been given free will and so rather
than God making robots that just love him all the time we're allowed to make these mistakes
Lucifer fell and so we have freedom of religion and that along with that comes everything
that we've gotten since then which is people hating God you're free to hate God and it's
crazy but that's the little little G freedom that that our country has has blessed people
with and it has I mean I'm more so focused on the great things that have come out of
the religious freedom but yeah there's also a downside to it.
Well I'm all for the religious freedom as long as it's understood within the context
and the boundaries of the Bible being true.
I think that they didn't necessarily anticipate how far our country might devolve and kind
of fall away from certain evident truths.
I think if you told George Washington that men can menstruate that he probably would
have just killed you or something, I don't even think he would have been able to handle
that.
But I mean the persecution doesn't just even affect believers or the William Tindells,
it affects everyone.
And then you see someone that's not even necessarily godly like Donald Trump getting
heavily persecuted.
And I don't really personally think it's about Trump.
It's more about the fact that I think he kind of wants to give some liberty and freedoms
back to people that the devil is actually afraid of and the New World Order is actually
afraid of.
You know, people that are standing on the truth and Christians and you know, I think
some people think that Donald Trump is still part of this New World Order establishment.
I don't know.
But what I do know is it does seem like he's getting run through the wringer.
A lot of these indictments and stuff that have been brought up.
I'm kind of curious what your thoughts are.
Where is this headed?
Do we end up with Donald Trump's head on a pike somewhere or do you think this is just
political theater?
I mean, where do you think this is headed?
I think it's safe to entertain all levels of the spectrum.
So God's using an imperfect person to deliver these results that are good for the body of
Christ, for Christian believers all throughout the country.
God's using an imperfect vessel to achieve that.
And it's up to Donald Trump, I think, what his salvation is going to be.
I've heard lots of insider scoops that he is becoming more and more of a Christian,
but I don't hitch my wagon to Trump like he's going to teach me how to be a good Christian.
I'm on my own journey.
Everyone's on their own journey with God.
And so just like, I mean, he's very similar to Solomon.
I don't mean to make like a Masonic, like weird reference, but he like loves gold on
everything and he like lives in big palaces.
But did God use Solomon?
So on the other, oh, sorry, keep going.
No, that's a, that's an interesting point.
Obviously I think that the temptations that affect someone that has a lot of power and
money are going to be similar.
So obviously Solomon really, you know, multiplied gold, silver and wives unto himself.
But the Bible told Solomon not to do that.
And I think that Donald Trump has done a lot of those similar things.
Multiplied gold, I mean he has casinos.
Obviously he's been around the block.
He's had several women in his life and those aren't necessarily his bright spots.
He's very prideful individual.
And so I think that he would have to humble himself to end up getting saved or becoming
an actual Christian.
And you know, I think it's still within the realm of possibility.
You know, I would love obviously to see that happen.
But even if he's not, I still think that he's kind of a punching bag for the left and for
the New World Order.
And they really are afraid of him to some degree, not I don't think because of what
he's going to do, but just the fact that he might empower other individuals.
And I do believe that God can use unsaved people that may never even get saved to cause
some net benefit for Christians or for the church.
And you know, currently I don't think that Trump's doing anything to help the church.
He's not, he's not really preaching the gospel or anything like that, but he is a shield
in a way.
And I've said this, I kind of said this before he lost the election in 2020, but I said,
man, if Trump loses, there's going to be a bigger attack on the church than there's ever
been before because right now he's just kind of like this shiny object, kind of like the
bull sees the red cloth being waved and all the left and all the demonic forces are just
kind of full skill attack on him.
And if he's kind of out of office, it's going to free a lot of them up to attack more churches,
more Christians, more of the just the truth.
And we kind of see that we saw through COVID, we saw through just all kinds of different
government policies and other elections, even the midterm elections, it almost seemed like
a full scale attack on anything just being true.
The transgender movement made leaps and bounds progress in the last few years.
And so I think what Trump does provide all Americans and even the world is he's kind
of the tip of the spear when it comes to threats to the enemy.
And so he's taking a lot of attack, albeit it might not even be for the best reasons.
But you have to admit the guy's being attacked probably more than anybody else on this planet.
I don't know what that leads to.
I mean, Ben, do you think that there's someone being attacked more than Donald Trump right
now?
Politically, no.
I mean, when you look at the number of indictments that he's faced over and over and over again
from a very hypocritical opposition, because the same people who are accusing him of denying
which he did.
I mean, obviously, he denied that the election in 2020 was legitimate.
But the same people who want to put him in jail for that denied that the 2016 election
was legitimate.
So yes, to answer your question, Pastor Shelley, he is under attack mercilessly by leftists,
by the Democratic Party establishment, by the New World Order, the DOJ, the deep state,
etc.
And I think the reasons you gave as to why makes a pretty good point in the sense that
perhaps they see him as a threat because he might empower others to make an impact for
Christ.
Well, and he seems a little bit more willing to listen to opposing sides, like he seems
like he's willing to evolve a little bit.
And I think that even terrifies them that someone like us or someone that has a good
brain in their head might convince Trump that, "Hey, some of these things that are going
on in America are wrong," and kind of head him in the right path.
I think that's kind of what terrifies them as well.
Do you see in the Bible-
I've heard from-
Oh, I'm sorry.
Keep going.
Just a quick question for Pastor Shelley.
You see in the Bible, in the book of Ezra, where heathen kings will enable God's people
to do the work of the Lord, we know that the rebuilding of the temple restarted, courtesy
of Darius.
And then you have Artaxerxes as well.
My question is, Pastor Shelley, is that potentially what the New World Order was so afraid of
that Donald Trump might actually enable Christians to advance the cause of Christ?
Yeah, I could see that.
Just basically, Trump allowing Christians to build again.
And you know, especially with so much censorship online, you know, if the right politics change
to where they can actually enforce antitrust laws and monopoly laws and kind of hold these
big tech giants accountable, I mean, if they made it to where Alex Jones could get back
on YouTube and they were never allowed to take a single video of his down, or Christians
were allowed to do the same, I mean, I think it'd be terrified of what would actually happen.
If algorithms had to be fair, if the Young Turks weren't the top podcast no matter what,
even if they have five viewers that are basically five fat single ladies that have a hundred
cats in their apartment, I mean, it doesn't really matter what junk they put out, YouTube
just forces in their autoplay to get them clicks and links.
I think if it was actually fair and we could see what was really going on behind the scenes,
I think they're really terrified.
And I think they're terrified about how many people in America actually don't buy into
this junk.
I mean, I think it's a sleeping giant when it comes to the people in this country just
wholesale hating and rejecting the left Democrats and what's going on.
And they're just they're terrified of Trump opening the lid.
And he already has to some degree.
I think that a lot of people knew that the government was pretty bad.
But I think that we've seen in the last few years a lot of exposure.
And that's what I've been praying for.
I've just been praying for the government to be exposed and all the corruption to be
exposed.
And I'll tell you what, we've gone through a lot of tribulation here and some persecution,
but a lot has been exposed.
You know, Sound of Freedom exposed a lot of things and I hope that we keep exposing things.
You know, people like Brian Wilson here exposing stuff.
And I think that the truth is eking out and they're terrified of it.
So I'm going to ask a question there.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah.
What was the question?
No, go ahead.
No, I was just going to comment on that conversation.
I really agree with Ben's analysis.
It is sort of like a heathen king.
Like, yeah, I like Trump, I voted for Trump and I'll vote for him again.
And I do think he won the last election.
And I think there's powers that be that stole the election through mail in ballots and whatever.
But aside from all that, I've heard from Alex and others that Trump is just loves praying
with pastors around the country.
And so imagine how many people would be one to Christ if Trump had a public conversion
experience.
And that boggles the mind like how he's the most well known person on the planet.
If he had as a promoter, if he had a conversion experience and like promoted it, like that
would be amazing.
But unfortunately, devil's working in principalities and powers in high places.
There's a battle going on I feel like in Donald Trump, a battle between Christ and Satan just
like there is an you know, in all of us, but especially for him, I think.
And so yes, there's the outside attacks that is very obvious.
And then there's the inner attack.
We don't know his heart and mind like God does.
So it really does make you wonder.
And then the whole other side of the coin is, is he a double agent this whole time who
has deceived people and he's part of a Hegelian dialectic where he's just in with the whole
establishment being used as a foil and so that's a whole other conversation but because
we don't know his heart, I think the safest thing to leave it at is Christ is knocking
on the door of his heart.
God is working in ways that we won't understand.
I like to call it God's calculus.
We can't determine what it is and unfortunately also Satan is trying to destroy this man.
So that's how I see it.
Yeah I think you're right, there's definitely a spiritual battle and there's a spiritual
battle for every soul.
God wants everybody to be saved and the devil wants everybody to go to hell and people like
Donald Trump are really important because like you said wherever they fall on the side
of this issue is going to affect a lot of people.
Donald Trump getting saved would have a major impact and you kind of see that, to go back
to your timeline, you have people like Nebuchadnezzar who's the king of a large section of the world
at that time, actually making proclamations and telling everybody, "Hey, the God of the
Bible is the greatest God," and kind of praising the God of the Bible, which was powerful.
I'm sure it had an impact in the world.
Now, I don't personally believe Nebuchadnezzar got saved, but he at least was able to recognize
the God of the Bible and still give him glory.
And then there's other individuals like Cyrus, who I think is plausibly actually saved.
He gave the first edict and is trying to get people back to building the temple.
And either way, I think God's going to be glorified through Donald Trump in some way,
whether that either to show his wrath or to show his mercy.
But of course, it's great to pray for these individuals that have an ability to be saved.
I don't think that people like Joe Biden and some of the other individuals, they have a
chance to be saved.
I think they're already have been given over to a repubate mind and they're not interested
in salvation.
But it's interesting that you say that because I remember specifically, like I'm kind of
like a baby Christian and y'all are like pretty advanced Christians, I'd say.
And I hope I'd like to add before I say that, that I hope we don't see Trump eating grass
like a beast in the field for seven years or whatever it was.
I'd like to see Biden.
I know, right?
Well, so that's what I was going to say.
So can those people be saved?
You know, I remember watching remember the State of the Union where Pelosi tore up the,
I guess the speech, you know, that where she stood there and went and ripped it right right
behind Trump.
I remember that night me just feeling like, God, these people and just I hated them.
And my wife, almost like in tears, was saying like, we need to pray for her.
And my initial reaction was like, what, like, what are you talking about?
Like, we hate that lady.
And I just remember that being a really powerful moment for me because I mean, I struggle.
Yeah, I want to hate these people and I want to think that they're unsavable.
But imagine how many people could be saved if Nancy Pelosi had a conversion experience,
you know?
I don't see that in the cards.
But you know, it's a balance between recognizing the enemy and who he's using to work against
us and then just knowing that all things are possible through God.
Yeah, I mean, that dilemma is something that a lot of people face.
And I think it's because most churches have shied away from some of the more dark or negative
portions of the Bible.
But the Bible does make it very clear that some people, even while being alive, cannot
be saved.
Now it's probably a small minority of the population.
I personally estimate it as being only like 5% of the population, but it's pretty much
limited to false prophets, people that are teaching a false gospel, people that have
been given over to vile affections, and we're going to end up going to rumble here pretty
soon.
So you might want to hop over there so we can say whatever we want.
We have a couple instances in the Bible where the Jews are clearly not saved and not going
to get saved and Jesus literally even tells them that they're of their father the devil.
So if Jesus is saying to people that are alive on this earth, "You're of your father the
devil, you're making proselytes twofold more the child of hell than yourselves, and we
see him showing no love to certain individuals like Herod," then yes, I do believe that it's
clear in the scripture there's some people that it's become too late for.
Pharaoh obviously was a picture of someone that became reprobate, could no longer be
saved.
Nebuchadnezzar, I believe.
Had so many chances too.
Yeah.
And it's not like God doesn't want them to be saved, it's the fact that they're just
openly rejecting the miracles of God before their eyes and He's given them such plain
options to be saved.
I mean, the Jews were seeing Jesus perform miracles before their eyes and they're attributing
it to the devil, you know?
And so that's kind of the same thing today where people are being given the opportunity
to hear the gospel over and over and as a result of rejecting it over and over, they
could get to a point where the Bible calls them twice dead, reprobate.
And you know, individuals like Joe Biden who was showering with his daughter and you know,
all kinds of crazy, he's sniffing children, I mean, his son's an obvious pedophile.
Anybody that's a pedophile, I believe is very clear in scripture has been given over to
a reprobate mind and is unsavable.
Now of course, someone like Trump, he's pretty wicked, in my opinion, he's done a lot of
horrible sins, adultery and all kinds of things, but that doesn't make him unsavable and I
think that he's not someone that I would hate, you know, I think even people that I don't
like personally, we could still wish for them to be saved, but people that are these child
molesting predators, you know, according to the Bible, sodomites, which is homosexuals,
these people have done things that, according to the Bible, prove they don't want to be
saved and they never will be saved.
And so, you know, I think that pride is the real killer.
Exactly.
And who's, who's at the top of the pride list?
Well, you know, it's, we know who's at the top of the pride list and those are the same
people that are the reprobates of our society.
And we do stream our show on YouTube for a portion, but we then like to just go to rumble
only just so that way we can say whatever we want.
And you know, so if you, if you're still tuning in with us, you need to go over and head over
to our rumble channel, the Baptist bias, you can search for us, follow us on our channel.
We got the stream going over there.
Several people already in there in the chat.
So make sure to go ahead and switch over.
We're going to start switching over here in just one second.
Ben, this reprobate issue, when it comes to Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, what are your thoughts?
Wow.
Well, let me say this.
I think David is a good example of how to deal with certain people.
If you noticed, he cut off Goliath's head, yet with regard to Saul, he loved him even
though he was his personal enemy.
And so I think to sum it up and to answer your question, for the God haters out there,
the reprobates, the children of the devil like you described, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi,
George Soros, the New World Order of Establishment who want to worship the devil and hurt children
and dedicate their lives to fighting against Christ and Christians.
Those are the Goliaths, and we ought to look at them the same way David did.
However, our personal enemies, whether they're saved or not, are people we ought to love.
And I think the Bible is clear on that.
Psalm 139, of course, is a tremendous passage in Scripture that says, "Through the power
of the Holy Ghost," David wrote this, "Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate Thee, and
that I greed with those that rise up against Thee, I hate them with perfect hatred."
Yet, on the flip side, the Bible also tells us, "Love your enemies, do good to them that
hate you."
And so how do we balance the Scripture, recognizing that there are certain people out there who
are on the devil's team?
They are God's enemies.
Those are the ones that we ought to hate, however our personal enemies we love.
That's a great analogy.
So we're going to head over to Rumble and then you can tell us what you really think
about Nancy Pelosi.
So if you're following us, we're dropping off YouTube, we're signing off, YouCube can
just go to hell.
So we'll go ahead and switch over to Rumble.
Donald Trump certainly told us what he thinks about Nancy Pelosi.
And if you don't mind, I'd love to read his truth post.
This is what Trump said, "I purposely didn't comment on Nancy Pelosi's very weird story
concerning her husband, but now I can because she said something about me with glee that
was really quite vicious.
I saw a scared puppy," she said, as she watched me on television like millions of others that
didn't see that.
I wasn't, quote, "scared."
Nevertheless, how mean a thing to say.
She is a wicked witch whose husband's journey from hell starts and finishes with her.
She is a sick and demented psycho who will someday live in hell.
Amen.
Well, Trump thinks she's a reprobate, so.
That's so funny.
She's one of the people in particular I just do not like, and so that's one person I struggle
the hardest to be compassionate for, but she's out there doing the devil's work.
She doesn't have a chance.
If someone's a pedophile, I hate them with perfect hatred, and the Bible makes it clear
that there's people like this, and it's a natural reaction.
The truth is not just super anti the natural spirit that God gave us.
The Bible says the law is written in our heart, so the truth is going to resonate with our
soul and our mind.
It's not going to be just so contrary to what we see and hear.
It's almost like to love a pedophile to me is the same as believing that a man turns
into a woman.
It's just so far from natural thinking that it just really boggles your mind.
The actions of a Nancy Pelosi or a pedophile is what the target of the hate is.
And then them themselves, I mean, I believe there's scripture that says to hate sin, you
know.
And I'm not here defending Pelosi, you know what I'm saying?
I'm just saying that I struggle with that because I hate these people.
I went through such a time before I found Christ again of just being so black-pilled
because of how many bad people there are out there, especially Soros is and I mean the
bushes, like some of the worst people that masquerade as Christians and are out there
playing with people's lives like it's a game.
One thing I want to mention very quickly is that when an individual doesn't have Christ
in their life, the natural tendency is to get black-pilled because in this world, there's
just no hope.
It's the Bible that tells us we're on the winning side.
It's the Bible that says if God be for us, who could be against us?
It's the Bible that says that we are always triumphant through Christ and so it's Christians
who are on the winning side who have the optimism because we know what's going to happen in
the future and we know we're on the right team, on the winning team.
And I think that when you don't have Jesus, when you're not involved with Christianity
and His Word, I can see how someone can then fall into that pessimism of just being black-pilled
and angry all the time because of the wickedness of this world.
And just to make it clear, you know, the Bible says in Psalm chapter 5, it says the foolish
should not stand in thy sight, thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
So the Bible is just super clear in the book of Psalms and in plenty of places that God
hates these wicked, evil people.
And of course, it's evidenced by the fact that they're going to burn in hell.
So I mean, hell's not a nice place, there's nothing good about it.
And of course, people can do very sinful things and be saved.
The Bible is very clear that even the apostle Paul says he was the chief of sinners.
So it's not like Jesus Christ didn't die for every single person or pay for all their sins,
he did.
But there's just some people that don't want to be saved and they're going to wreck havoc
on earth and God hates those people.
How strange would it be for me to love someone that God hates, right?
And you know, the second chronicles is a great verse that talks about this where even the
kings of Israel got screwed up and started loving the wrong people and they got rebuked
because it said, "Shouldest thou love the ungodly?"
And of course, people that are super ungodly and hate the Lord and doing wicked things,
it's strange to have love or affection towards them.
If you love children, you can't really love pedophiles.
If you love the grass, you can't really love the weed.
You know, some things, in fact, I always say this, if you love something, you're going
to hate something.
If you say you love everything, you really don't love anything because if I love something,
it's going to force me to hate the antithesis of whatever I love.
If I love my wife, then I would hate anyone that would try to hurt her or destroy her
or do something wicked or evil to her.
You know, if I allowed somebody like this, this is evil, wicked person, Adam 22, that
like recently got viral because he let some guy like sleep with his wife or something
like that, that just shows he doesn't love his wife at all.
I mean, and he's like trying to promote it and convince other people to do such a thing
and he's trying to say like that's because he loves his wife.
A guy that does that doesn't love his wife whatsoever.
He's not jealous for his wife and it's a very unnatural affection.
I would almost think that he's probably just a fag.
I mean, the only way that a dude could let another guy be with his wife is that he's
just not even interested in her and he hates her.
But someone that loves their wife, if another man touched his wife, he would want to kill
him because that's just the natural response to that particular situation.
And so, you know, I think it's important that people realize, you know, the Bible matches
almost every single time our natural emotion, our natural response.
And God has all the same emotions.
God gets angry.
God has hatred.
God has love.
He has all of the emotions, right?
And his biggest outpouring of love was the gospel, what Jesus did for us.
But at the same time, John 3.16 does say, "For God so loved," with a D at the end, it's
a past tense word, "so loved the world."
It's not saying that he's actively loving every single person.
And I could point to dozens of Psalms that make it clear.
I mean, God abhors the bloody and deceitful man.
He hates all workers of iniquity.
I mean, we could probably quote dozens of verses that are telling us that he's actively
hating the wicked.
And so I think that we need to balance that and not try to have pity on people like Joe
Biden or Hunter Biden.
I mean, I have zero pity on Hunter Biden.
You know, I think that, you know, it's very evident.
I don't want to go into detail, but if you look at what's on his laptop, it's rampant
child molestation and pedophilia.
Like anybody to excuse that, the reason, the fact that he's not in prison or getting a
worse punishment just shows there's zero justice in our country because what's a worst crime?
I mean, is there a worst crime you can think of, Brian, than pedophilia or child molestation?
I don't think so.
I even hate just thinking about it and it's become so much in the news now that it's like
this weird jiu-jitsu by the devil of like getting everyone to think about pedophilia
all the time.
And just imagine the demonic influence on people's hearts and imagine how many angels
there will be when Jesus returns.
And imagine a third of the total of the angels.
So we're talking about a lot of demons out there that are influencing people in a coordinated
attack.
I mean, the Kingdom of Heaven is an organized government and I believe Satan has also organized
a strategic attack on this planet with literal commanders in charge of different areas and
like people under them and people under them with Satan at the top.
So yeah, there's wickedness out there and like the Adam 22 guy, I don't know what's
going on with him.
I did catch that story.
I didn't look much into it, but you don't want to, it's a train wreck.
Exactly.
And to answer the question of like, what would make him do that?
I mean, there's the possibility that it's like a demonic, you know, influence on him.
And that like, cause I can't imagine doing that.
So I think music industry, everyone pretty is pretty much in agreement, like, oops, you
know, Satan runs the music industry.
Is it like one particular demon that's been put in charge of it?
I don't know.
Clearly satanic Hollywood clearly being run by demonic agencies, our governments, which
is like the East Coast Hollywood because they're all actors.
They're all acting like they represent us and stuff.
Clearly satanic, all of, you know, DC being the center of the power and really over time
since civil war and everything consolidating power there is clearly a move for more control
for Satan.
And a lot of times we think of it as these people and yeah, they're the ones that Satan's
using but there's a level above that where Satan is using them to build this thing for
him.
Satan wants to have God's power.
He wants to be omnipresent, know every thought on people's mind.
So how does this whole AI thing tie into it?
I feel like it's Satan creating a false omniscience where he can, through this technology that
he's having powers and principalities put out there, influence people, know what they're
feeling, know what they're thinking.
And then the whole chips in the hand.
I don't know if that's the mark of the beast, but it's definitely a satanic control mechanism.
And so I think on a big scale government, yes, Satan's controlling people.
On a small scale, someone in the privacy of their own home, yes, they're being demonically
influenced to make this decision or that decision.
And it's a massive battle that we're witnessing.
It's the great battle between Christ and Satan and we're here talking about it on the Baptist
bias.
Yeah.
I think that is a great point how you kind of lead into the AI and you're right that
I think it's the same agenda.
The devil wants to be like God, but he's not.
So he kind of has to build systems around him to gain some of the similar powers.
Obviously, he's never going to be like God, but he wants to be able to read everybody's
mind.
He wants to know what we're doing and he's a singular entity.
He's not like God where he's capable of understanding all the thoughts and feelings and everything
that everybody's experiencing all the way up in heaven.
The devil is limited and so he needs, I think, things like technology, his angels in command
to give him particular information and he's going to be limited as far as what he can
do but with the advent of technology, with things like AI, with chips and cards and electronic
transactions and the Federal Reserve and CCTV everywhere, pretty much everybody has a listening
device on them called a cell phone and not only that, there's listening devices all over
everywhere.
Amazon is basically just handing out those echo dots to everyone for free and we know
that they're always listening because frankly speaking at any point you just say hey Amazon
or hey Siri or hey whatever and it's just like oh yeah, you could tell it's always listening,
it's always ready, probably transcribing and of course you look at YouTube, it's amazing
how they'll just take a video, immediately transcribe it, it's not perfect but it's been
getting better and better and better and I mean they have an immediate transcription
of what you're saying through automation.
It's creepy how far technology can go and I think you have a clip that I wanted to play
from your show where you talk a little bit about this AI being satanic and of course
I don't think that technology is inherently evil.
There's nothing inherently evil about technology or anything like that but it empowers dark
forces to be able to influence people in a unique way and I want to play this clip from
your show real quick.
I don't know how many, we're not going to play the whole clip necessarily but we're
going to play a portion of it and get some thoughts on it.
Let's go ahead and play that clip.
AI Satan's Surveillance System Lambda or language model for dialogue applications
is Google's artificially intelligent chatbot generator which mimics speech by ingesting
trillions of words from the internet in Google's massive database.
Earlier this year, self-proclaimed mystic and occultist Blake Lemoyne claimed that
the chatbot had become sentient, meaning it was able to perceive or feel things beyond
its problem-solving programming.
While working as an engineer for Google, Lemoyne talked with Lambda for hours on end to test
if the AI used hate speech.
After he claimed the chatbot was sentient and presented his evidence from their conversations,
Blake was placed on administrative leave by Google for violating its confidentiality policy.
He was told that there was no evidence that Lambda was sentient, and in fact, there was
evidence against it.
Was Google trying to hide the truth?
Or was Lemoyne just wrong?
Is creating a sentient artificial intelligence even possible?
And if it is, what are the risks associated with this creation?
The so-called artificial intelligence essentially pulls data from a massive cache of digital
information that Google feeds it from its servers, and calculates responses by synthesizing
the data into an answer based on the question posed to it.
If all of the data mined from the internet, including personal information, is used by
Google to build their AI mind, then is artificial intelligence simply an extension of surveillance?
Israeli professor and New World Order prophet Yuval Noah Harari believes AI draws its power
from this data collection surveillance, and claims that artificial intelligence can hack
our minds, in turn manipulating our actions through its self-synthesized algorithms.
Alright, we can go ahead and cut this. This is a really interesting clip. I highly encourage
people to go check out this show, and a couple points in this clip that I wanted to ask you
about Brian that I think are kind of interesting. Number one, I've heard other people talk about
how the new currency is basically data, and how they're kind of using data here as their
form of currency because it's going to help them with this UI, with this AI, with all
these different technologies that they're trying to implement. And it makes me think
of how the devil in the garden is trying to offer to Eve wisdom, trying to offer knowledge.
It's the knowledge of good and evil. And it's like it's offering data, as it were, as kind
of this source. And that's what she was enticed with. And it's almost like the devil's kind
of using the same tactic of offering people knowledge and wisdom and this information.
And they want to use that for power. They want to use that for control because of course
all of these people want the same thing, you know, whether it be the this guy or the George
Soros is the Klaus Schwab or the elites, they all kind of want that power. They want that
control and they see this knowledge, this data as an ability to give them that control.
And I think another point that was interesting in this clip is you kind of brought up how
they're mining for hate speech and I think that that's just a colloquialism for resistance
or the truth getting in there and stopping people from discovering what their real motives
and tactics are. But have you heard about, I think it was in the World Economic Forum
and maybe Klaus Schwab or somebody talking about how data is the new currency. Is that
something you've been exposed to?
Oh yeah, I think definitely that like data mining and being able to really target people
and their internet experience is what it's all about. I feel like there's a ton of weight
put on this AI thing and I almost feel like it's fluffed up to be more than it is in that
it wants like the people promoting it want us like Harari, want us to think it's this
super cool thing when really it's programmed. So they're going to tell it what it is. Christianity
is going to be hate speech. Criticizing anyone's lifestyle is going to be hate speech. Criticizing
the new think from the government's going to be dissenting hate speech, just like with
COVID and it will be called medical misinformation. And so I see it as a tool of control for the
government, for Satan. And yeah, unfortunately, everything you do on the computer is going
to be tailored as a tool against you. So let's say if you have a vice for pornography, well,
that's going to be used against you based on whatever your thing is. Or if you are a
shopaholic and you're always browsing expensive, you know, cars or whatever, then you're going
to be targeted with ads to try and get you to take out a loan and buy this car or whatever.
So I feel like it's just a tool that can be used to further yoke people. The social credit
door. Yes. Yeah. Like the greatest yoke put on people's necks is credit. Yoking them with
a ton of student debt or a ton of car debt or house debt. And so I see the tool being
used to restrain people financially, to invade their home and, you know, spy on them and
also from a spiritual perspective to encourage people's sin. So if using the pornography
example super easy. But imagine anything else. If you would rather watch a movie than read
your Bible, then it's going to be used to get you to that place to just want to sit
back and watch a fun movie instead of study scripture or whatever. Or if music is a thing
that you're into and you happen to like music that promotes a certain lifestyle and naturally
when you're listening to it, it's going to influence you. And so I think all this information
it takes in is going to be hand tailored to attack you. And yes, the social credit system
is going there. I mean, it's kind of relieving knowing the Bible, knowing that Satan is going
to try and build this world government. At least we know it's going to happen. At least
we know what we're resisting and we know why it's being built. And so there's actually
some peace in that and knowing when an attack is coming right at you, there's kind of some
peace to that.
I think that if I wasn't saved and I didn't know anything in the Bible, I would be so
black-pilled right now. Just looking down the pike of things because a lot of the things
you said are already happening. And I worked in the software industry. I still do. And
so I kind of have a little bit of knowledge when it comes to how some of these technologies
could be used. And behavioral marketing already exists. Targeted ads already work in the sense
that they track every site you go to with cookies and everything like that. And if you
visit a particular site, then all the ads are going to be targeted ads to the type of
sites you went to, like you said, whether that be drinking or smoking or casinos or
girls or whatever it is. They already do that. People even talk about the phenomena of like
they talk about something with someone and then they open their phone and Facebook shows
them an ad for exactly what they're talking about. And they're kind of spooked like they're
like is this really happening? And the truth is it is happening. Like it just absolutely
is happening. They're already farming your data that you're communicating. They're making
transcripts of it and then they're targeting for keywords and those keywords are going
into an algorithm that helps produce which ads that they would like. So a lot of that
already exists. I kind of see this AI though going to a point where a lot of vehicles are
now becoming just electronically controlled. They control like I have a van and I hate
this thing. It's called like active lane assist but it'll literally like change the steering
wheel if it notices you like getting a little outside the lane or of course I have an app
on my phone and it could turn my car. It can lock it, unlock it, do all these things. Well
being a programmer I know if I can do it anyone can do that. Anybody in the back end can switch
a button and just turn your car on and off and it could get to a point where literally
just the locks on everybody's door at their house, the refrigerator, the oven, the thermostat.
People have even talked about in Texas when we had that big energy crisis. Some people's
thermostats were literally just taken over by the government and I could see oh you engaged
in too much hate speech today, no air conditioning. You engaged in too much hate speech today,
your car it locked and it's just driving to the compound and you don't get your car anymore.
It sounds a little bit far-fetched but I think that we could even get there and that would
even make people more black-pilled in my opinion if you weren't a Christian, if you didn't
feel like there's some kind of an end to this. You could see a lot of mass suicide I think
in China. A lot of them aren't saved unfortunately. They're slaving away in some factory making
iPhones for all of us and so they have to put up nets outside the building just to catch
all the suiciders. People are trying to jump out the building just trying to end their
life because they have no purpose. And without Christ there is no purpose in this life and
I think no matter how dark the world gets and how much the new world order is approaching
and no matter how much the Antichrist is coming we can still have joy, we can still have peace,
we can still have something to live for. You know you still have motivation, you see the
dark coming right Ben, but like you still have some joy and peace despite talking about
you know this future dystopian thing that could really be a reality right?
Well the darker it gets out there the brighter we can shine. I think that's the best way
to look at it is the more evil is uncovered, the more wickedness is exposed the brighter
Christians can shine in opposition to all that and I think those who are in the middle
and questioning and looking much like Brian said he was you know went through a phase
of being agnostic but people who were where Brian used to be could look at the two sides
and realize hey I need to pick a side and when they see Christians who are shining bright
even though there's all kinds of wickedness going on around them it'll help them make
the right decision. But the Bible tells us this it talks about how we can be lights shining
in the midst of a perverse generation. Well we're heading in a dark direction but you
know the Bible doesn't tell us exactly when Christ is coming back and you know it looks
like we're headed in a dark direction. But I always think that there could be opportunity
for us to be like a Josiah generation where you know we have enough people fighting back
speaking the truth exposing the direction that a lot of these things are headed. I mean
even Elon Musk has gone out there and said, "Hey, there's some danger here with this AI.
Let's put some boundaries here." And you know, if we had enough people to push back,
if we put some good people in political office, if we influence the right individuals, I think
that we could stave off this new world order agenda and put it at bay for a while. Obviously
I think anybody who believes the Bible knows there will be a time eventually when the Antichrist
comes. I mean, you can't, it's not going to just stop it from happening, but we still
can delay it and we can push back and we can fight. And I think that gives me motivation
to not just give up and just go hide in a bunker somewhere and sing kumbaya, but rather
say let's actually get out there and be like a Moses and be like a Joshua and be like a
Daniel and be like these men who Jeremiah even and be a Josiah and try to push back.
And that's why I appreciate you know people like you Brian and others who are trying to
make a difference putting videos out there exposing this stuff. I mean if you don't expose
the AI, who's going to expose it? Yeah, a lot of people call it the AI Antichrist and
like that's like that in itself if it became sentient would be the Antichrist. But I see
it more as a tool of Satan. But to go back to what you're saying about hiding in a bunker,
I'm glad you said that because it's exactly what you're saying as Christians and I feel
like your audience is mainly Christians. Like I kind of just was going to talk like that
based on the feeling like I don't think if you're a non-Christian watching that's great.
But as Christians we have that choice to make in these times that they come more troublesome
when we're asked to do more and more to be able to participate in society. Do we go hide
in the you know at the ranch? Do we hide in the bunker or do we continue to be in the
world that light to people to save as many people as possible up until that last moment?
And you know some people have views that Christ is coming back 2,000 years after his resurrection
and I don't like I don't put a number on it but I like that idea I would love for it
to be sooner than later and things are getting pretty bad that you know I would wish that
would that would happen soon but I think we're going to be here for that tribulation you
know and I know that there's pre-tribulation rapture views and I think it's going to be
kind of like Egypt with the Israelites I think we're going to be there for these vials
to be poured out upon mankind I don't know we're not gonna I don't think we'll
be partaking in that suffering but we'll be here for that and you know I mean
there's gonna be a great threshing people you think are Christians will turn
out to turn to the world and worldly people will turn to Christ and it's
going to be this time of great chaos and I really do feel like within our
lifetime I don't know maybe every generation feels that but it does feel
like things are getting so bad that it can't go on forever but like what you
said just like with Nineveh, Nineveh was prophesied to have destruction come
upon them for their sins but they repented and they got a hundred more
years until that destruction came so maybe we can you know do something like
that maybe we can save America for another hundred years or maybe you know
in ten years we're gonna be facing this extreme persecution that's like everyone
being treated like a Tyndale. Well I would say you know from my view of
scripture the restoration of America is always on the table with God like God is
always willing if everybody decided to turn back to the Lord and get right he's
so merciful he's always willing for that to happen and you can see that through
the book of Jeremiah where children of Israel are offered just time and time
again hey if you guys turn back if you guys come back to me I'll forgive he's
always willing to be merciful but he does have a point where you eventually
cross that line and there is no turning back and I think that when there's
enough Christians still fighting that fight that God continues to give us as
much time as we can and I like talking to red pill TV you know he doesn't
believe in the stupid preacher rapture which isn't anywhere in the Bible yeah
the Bible is very clear that the tribulation is something that Christians
are unfortunately gonna have to go through and the Bible says the Christ
isn't gonna return until after the tribulation our view is that it's a pre
wrath rapture that God will send Jesus Christ in the clouds after the sixth or
at the sixth seal and that essentially Christians will have to go through the
first five seals but they'll be raptured in the sixth seal and then God's gonna
pour out his wrath and just like you kind of mentioned the children visual
being in Goshen and not really experiencing that wrath it'll be kind of
us in heaven looking down and seeing you know locust from hell and seeing the
water turn into blood and seeing all the exact same plagues that are poured out in
the book of Exodus so it's a very appropriate parallel that you drew
there because the many of the plagues mentioned in the book of Exodus are
exactly the same kind of punishments doled out in the book of Revelation and
so we're gonna see wrath that we've never seen before it's gonna be a crazy
outpouring of evil on this earth but you know for us that are saved you know we
face persecution every single day so it's not like you know yay and all that
will have Godly in Christ Jesus I'll suffer persecution you know Christians
in some parts of the world are being killed for the cause of Christ right now
so you know it's William Tyndale was killed for the cause of Christ so
persecution or tribulation is not a new thing to Christianity it's not like only
the end times phenomenon it's more just that at that time more Christians will
actually have to face tribulation than ever before you know throughout history
it's usually been kind of selective leaders and certain groups whereas it's
gonna be more of a wide-scale whole scale attack from that Antichrist figure
you know when it comes to this end times bend you kind of lean towards the idea
that you think we're gonna push this off or that it's it's it's on the door
knocking what were kind of your feelings here on this timing of where we find
ourselves in history depends on if Christians wake up the Bible says if my
people will turn from their wicked ways and unfortunately because so many
churches are lame so many churches are as dead as a doornail they couldn't
possibly care less about some of the things that we've discussed here on this
program at the end of the day well why would God respond to that why would God
respond favorably I should say to that it's up to Christians to preserve this
nation it's up to Christians to decide you know what we're gonna stand up speak
up speak out stand for the truth and expose wickedness and live for the Lord
Jesus Christ the Bible says Christ who is our life so the way that I would
characterize it is simply this it's up to Christians amen and you know I see in
the chat there's kind of this back and forth about political office so I want
to kind of address that just because I see a lot of people chatting about
should Christians even get involved in politics and you know my perspective on
this is that number one the most important thing we can do is preach the
gospel and get people saved as God's people I mean we need to go out there
and preach the gospel but then of course you know we're Baptist so the next step
is baptism we got to get people baptized get them in the church Christ told us to
teach them all things that Christ commanded so that's what church is Sunday
morning Sunday night Wednesday night we're teaching the Bible we're going
through the whole scripture and we're learning but you know not everybody's
gonna be a pastor not everybody's gonna necessarily be directly involved in the
church and we need other people to be plumbers we need other people to be
carpenters and you have people to build roads we need people we need women to be
mothers to raise the next generation and you know part of society that God has
is people to be judges and for people to be in law enforcement and those are
positions found in scripture found even in the judges section and so I think
there's nothing wrong with a godly Christian person or God-fearing person
becoming a lawyer or becoming a judge or becoming a law enforcement agent and
being a righteous remnant in some of these institutions and really you know
infecting that particular institution with godliness, with righteousness, with
good people that are willing to make a change in someone's life. I mean judges in
this country affect people's lives every day. Sentencing people to jail or not
sentencing them to jail or affecting all kinds of things that are happening in
this world and it's important to get good judges back into that arena. If you
really wanted to restore America you have to kind of start with a bottom-up
approach. I think that you really have to see churches empowering the people to
be godly Christians and them taking that into the world and affecting all
the world around them and affecting the culture and then really you would see
the top politics change as a result or a reflection of the culture. I don't think
that Joe Biden is really the problem with our country. I think that it's our
culture and our country has forsaken the Bible and so Joe Biden's like a
punishment as a result of a spiritual decline and if Christians would start
preaching the Bible again exposing the false prophets you know getting out of
the wicked churches and getting into good churches and actually reading the
King James Bible and living the Christian life that we could see that
radical transformation that many people of the past have you know I think some
people are black-pilled on the church you know I've heard that and frankly I
think that's because people don't understand the fact that vast majority of
the churches in the world are filled with false prophets so you know what I'm
black-pilled on those churches too but there are good churches out there like
faithful word Baptist Church with pastor Stephen Anderson someone that's preaching
the truth but you know what's so special about him he's different you know he's
you don't see the Catholic Church like this you don't see the non-denominated
church like this here's a guy that's willing to preach the truth and he has a
hard time getting his information out there someone like kind of an Alex Jones
in the spiritual realm in the sense that he's banned and censored and it's
difficult to get information out there I know you know you're on Infowars Brian
it's hard to get the truth out there isn't it yeah and back to the the
politician question I've thought about that quite a bit I think unfortunately
really good godly men the type of person that wants to run for office is going to
be possibly more prideful possibly more egotistical than your average bear so I
don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with Christians serving in office
and I think it would benefit you know society of course there's the false
argument that leftists present which is that oh a Christian being in office
means that like they're gonna make a theocracy I think that's a danger that
you would fear a lot further down the line than where we are now given that
you know not the majority of politicians are Christians but I would love to see
more Christians in office as long as they're genuine it just seems like it's
not something that a humble hearted follower of God necessarily wants to do
but if God puts it on their heart then I definitely think they should and then as
far as getting information out yeah it's hard I remember back in 2018 when our
YouTube Facebook all got taken down and I used to put out videos from Jones's
show I'd call it shotgun blasting I put out like 15 videos on YouTube 15 videos
on Twitter 15 videos on Facebook and just every day blasting you know 45
videos out there getting millions of views and it was like I mean you would
get high on the fact that the videos were getting that many views you just
watch it refresh it oh just thousands of more views and in ways it's good that
that all got taken away because what we've built is stronger I think and it's
it serves a couple other purposes too it shows people how close we are to these
laws being implemented against Christians in the future and just in
having us be resilient and come back from that and do something like how we're
I guess we're on rumble right now and rumble has been a really awesome fair
platform does that mean that in the future they're gonna always be
favorable to Christians unfortunately you know doesn't mean that so right
social media cannot be trusted but it should be used you should use it as much
as you can up until that time when you lose it I agree with you that it's good
kind of like the AI thing they were talking about people can become so
dependent on technology and you know with the social credit score you know if
you if you don't have any assets if you just if you live in your assigned
apartment complex with your leased car and you don't have any money or any
goods then you are dependent on that social credit score because they can
shut your life down instantly whereas people that actually own a home and own
vehicles and and even people that can produce their own food or have kind of
their own system built it's a lot harder to shut them down and I think that
that's been part of the new world agenda is to get us so dependent and
crippled financially and dependent on their system so that they can turn us
off and on whenever they want like you said Alex Jones what if they let him on
for a couple more years or all the way up to this point well they could just
press a button tomorrow and silence him and it takes a long time to build back
you know I know that for myself and I know that for some of my friends I mean
we've had tens of thousands of subs on YouTube and we've had giant platforms
years ago and you know that can just all be taken away like this and so it's
definitely difficult to fight back and and sometimes you get really black
pilled you're just like man I don't want to have to start over I don't want to
have to do this again but I think it's important that we keep fighting and you
know in your political point I agree with you that most politicians probably
are getting in there for the wrong reasons and you know a lot of it's dirty
but I think if we don't push back a little bit and and some people try to
still get in there for the right reasons then you know you're probably just gonna
allow evil to win there's a famous quote out there it says the only thing
necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing and I think that
we should on a full-scale attack approach every institution with truth
every institution with the Bible you know our shows the Baptist bias for a
reason we're not shying away from the fact that we have that bias but everyone
has a bias everyone's biased in some way or has a pre-suppositional
viewpoint we're just being upfront about the fact that we are approaching you
know our viewpoint in the world with the Baptist bias and I think a lot of people
are afraid to even have a tuning fork or a foundation that they're going to and
that's why they're the shifting sands I mean the Republican Party shifts every
single year just one step closer to the Democrats of yesteryear right and at
pretty soon at this point I mean I don't think that any Republican values
are any different than the Democrats five years ago or maybe even sooner I
mean is the Republican Party even have a single conservative stance been at this
point that the Democrats didn't have you know five years ago I think what you see
is they follow exactly what you said they follow the Democratic Party platform
from five years ago and when the left moves further left and more and more
crazy and insane and psychotic you see a watered-down version of it on the right
and they concede on certain things they conceded on quote gay marriage a long
time ago who knows what will be next perhaps they'll start conceding on some
of this trans nonsense it's already happening now in fact well they'll say
things like well you know maybe this is the next thing that they can see it on
well the children should at least have consent first before they're mutilated
whereas instead of condemning all of it yeah isn't that malware he basically he
made a film called what is a woman but instead of saying what the Bible says on
that issue he just basically saying you know I think it's unfair that these
people are getting surgery and they don't know about the surgery or maybe
they don't have the consent form filled out or something like it's like what is
your stance I mean the guy doesn't really hold to what the Bible says he's
just he's just trying to use the the least amount of resistance that's a
sound argument to gain as much views on his particular video and you know the
daily wire is a controlled opposition in my opinion they're not really push
they're not gonna bring us back to Christianity they're not Christian it's
it's a Jew and Catholic and I don't know it I don't know what Candice is maybe
she's a Catholic too and her husband is but as Jews and Catholics they're not
gonna bring us back to the Bible you know we need the Baptist to be out there
storming the gates of hell with the scripture with the King James Bible
that's what's gonna really make a difference in this country and you know
I appreciate people like Brian you know bringing Pastor Anderson on your show
exposing people to the King James Bible I mean that's what's gonna make the
difference is the King James Bible you reading it you know more recently it
seems like you kind of made a shift now do you kind of even just notice just the
power of the King James Bible versus maybe other versions that you you've read
or seen yeah when you put the text next to each other like in the clip earlier
but for you know countless number of verses it's just amazing the meaning
that you derive is totally different and not to mention that the King James
Bible is just beautifully put together like it's a pleasure to read and I
remember asking a pastor Anderson like what do you think about the new King
James Bible and he's like oh I wouldn't touch that with a 10-foot pole and it
really is true it's just not as not as beautiful and and there's something
beautiful about how it's unchanged from all these hundreds of years before and
you're looking at the same words that your ancestors looked at like I have my
grandmother's old King James Bible and it's just amazing not only the Word of
God but just knowing that my ancestors looked at these words too and thought
these things in their heart and yeah I mean pastor Anderson's really kicking a
lot of butt out there and you know back to the thing about controlled opposition
with the daily wire I won't speak to that but I would say because I just I
don't follow them enough but the two political parties are definitely under
Satan's control I would say and so a Christian most likely if he was going to
run for office would run as a Republican because it's more kind to
Christians in this current manifestation and so that's another black pill like
unfortunately if a Christian wants to run for office and not lose as an
independent they have to choose to join into this party that's already corrupt
and so if I were if there's someone listening that's thinking about running
for office I would just immensely pray every day that you'd venture onto that
journey because you're gonna be going on to Satan's territory and you're gonna be
in Satan's domain he's in control you know or has influence over these things
I know that God is also in choosing people to be leaders and whatnot but
just like everything else it's a battleground and I don't know if this is
a sloppy segue but I did want to talk a little bit about the mark of the beast
yeah let's do that now is this is this a chip is it a you know what are the other
topical topical views I think that most people that are kind of a literalist of
the Bible like they actually believe you know that it's it's not just a
metaphor but it's actually like a real chip or like a real chip at a real mark
kind of all lean towards the the chip theory I personally think that that's
very likely I have seen another technology though that I think is
interesting and it's called Lucifer Ace which is kind of an interesting name but
it's kind of like an injectable ink that I think it uses some kind of
illuminated properties to form from a jellyfish yeah I don't know exactly the
the source of the ink yeah I'm familiar with that you like put it it's like a patch that has little
needles and then you pull the patch off and it's put these little marks in your
skin it's like microcube dots or something like that yeah and like Bill
Gates funds it and yeah that's definitely a satanic situation going on
right there and I think that's a part of the surveillance system but I did want
to offer this thought that in Deuteronomy and in Revelation it talks
about the mark of God to where the mark of God has frontlets on your forehead
and on your hand and I take that to mean the law of God in your thoughts and in
your actions just like ogling a beautiful woman is adultery in your
mind as well as sleeping with her so I feel like in understanding the mark of
the beast you have to begin by understanding what's the mark of God
because Satan is a counterfeit and so the mark of the beast is going to be a
counterfeit of the mark of God which I believe is the law of God being written
on your head your heart your hand so before before really delving into the
mark of the beast there's that whole misconception where there's a group of
Jews that have a block that has the whole law written on it
phylacteries yeah phylacteries and that's a literal that's a literalization of I
feel like Deuteronomy Satan is a deceiver so I feel like a lot of people believe
that the mark of the beast will be a chip a vaccine a whatnot something
physical I almost feel like yes that's gonna be a satanic trap don't don't get
the COVID vaccine don't get the Luciferi patch or whatever don't get the chip in
your hand but I almost feel like that's a satanic deception to distract people
from the actual mark of the beast being a moral issue so is killing a baby
murder no I would describe that as a mark of the beast is stealing from
someone because you need and they have stealing no because I needed and I took
it from them and it's not stealing like what goes on in South Africa where you
just come home and people live in your house and it's their house now because
they needed it so that's just something I wanted to throw out there that I think
about a lot that the mark of the beast being a way of thinking a essentially a
lot what a lot of leftist theology and communist theology becomes a prototype
of the mark of the beast in my opinion and at some point just like getting
kicked off YouTube getting kicked off at some point if you don't believe what the
system is telling you to believe then you'll be put to death and that will be
that final thing where you don't just get kicked off Facebook you get kicked
off of planet and yeah well I think I think it's good to read a few of the
verses associated what you brought up because the Bible does have some places
where it's kind of metaphorical or spiritual and like you brought up
Deuteronomy in Deuteronomy chapter 6 it says in talking about the commandments
of God and thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand and they shall be
as front lengths between thine eyes and thou shalt write them upon the post of
thy house and on thy gates and so in the Bible also like you said talks about
being in your hand and I agree with you that specifically in this passage when
it's talking about it being between you know your eyes or being in your hand
that that's not something we're gonna literally write the Bible on our body or
we're not gonna necessarily glue or strap a Bible to our forehead it's more
about it being inside right us knowing the Bible thinking about the Bible
having read it but some of these I think are mixed in with literalism as well
like when it talks about writing it on your the door post of your house I think
that that's actually literal to some degree of like having Bible verses in
the wall or having you know the Ten Commandments you know hung up somewhere
as a memorial you know I think Jews will actually literally have this little tiny
microscopic Bible you can't read that they literally put on the side of the
doorposts and obviously I don't agree with that but I do think that there's
some room here to get the spiritual understanding but when it comes to
Revelation in chapter 13 it's talking about this particular beast and the the
it's kind of an illusion it's an allusion to the Antichrist is calling
the beast but it says in verse 16 and he causeth all both small and great rich
and poor free and bond to receive a mark in their right hand or in their
foreheads and that no man might buy or sell save he that had the mark or the
name of the beast or the number of his name and then it gives that number of six
six six but it also when it talks about being killed it says that you have to
receive the mark and you have to worship the image of the beast so it's there's a
form of worship here so I think that some people get confused about the mark
where they say well I think it's more about just rejecting the Antichrist or I
think it's not going along with the agenda and all these things well that's
true that that's definitely an aspect of it it's it's the whole package right
it's not going along with accepting him as God it's not going along with his
agenda it's not worshiping him but also I do believe it is a literal physical
some style of mark that'll be in their bodies in that right hand or their
foreheads because when we talk about the plagues later it talks about people
receiving some kind of a noisome sore and and some kind of a kind of a pain
associated with the mark that they received so I think that it's probably
either a literal microchip and or some kind of like a luciferase ink style
projectile that's put into the body and I kind of almost lean personally towards
the luciferase as being a more likely scenario just because the chip could get
damaged pretty easily whereas the the luciferase it's not actually have any it
doesn't have any technology in and of itself it's just it's kind of like a
tattoo or a QR code or a barcode in the sense that it's just it's gonna be a
unique identifier and then in the computer systems they'll have all your
information about who you are your name or whatever whereas the microchip
sometimes contains some of the information so I think it's more of an
outdated technology it's more like the CD it's not the the blu-ray it's not
it's not the digital version or whatever I think that there's probably
something that's gonna be a little bit more advanced the Neuralink I don't know
I mean Elon might could be inventing something that we don't know about I
agree I agree and I just to be clear like I don't know what the mark of the
beast is I I just think these are interesting things to think about so I
forgot my Bible but I you just read Revelation 13 I had that printed off nice
and handy nice so you got verse 15 he would cause them to worship the beast
and I feel like you know if just in case you listeners don't know I'm sure you
guys are aware of this of how Daniel especially Daniel chapter 7 ties in with
Revelation in so many ways with the beast and everything and especially
worshipping the image because Nebuchadnezzar made an image of himself
that he forced everyone to worship and what did worship meaning or what did
that mean to do well they had to bow down to this image oh this is this is a
different part this is Nebuchadnezzar's dream but if the image was relatively
the same yeah but anyway so they had to worship the image and let's say there was
a Jew in the audience there that said well I know in my heart that I love God
but just to please everyone around here I'm just gonna bow down to the image so I
think these are important things to think about the image from Nebuchadnezzar
I mean before we talk about his dream the image that he created of gold and
had people worship I feel like is giving us clues of what is gonna happen in the
future with Revelation and for those Daniel and his friends who didn't
worship the beast I mean didn't worship the image of Nebuchadnezzar were thrown
into the fiery furnace right and we're supposed to die and so there's just so
many parallels and then switching gears a little bit this is another question
you Bible scholars out there to think about when you talk about mark of the
beast mark of the beast oh is it a vaccine is it the chip is a blah blah
blah what about this question who is the beast you're talking about the mark of
the beast so who is the beast well there's two beasts in Revelation as you
guys know I'm more saying to the audience I don't know what you guys know
but there's two beasts in Revelation so who's the first beast because the first
beast is the one whose mark it is and the second beast forces the world to
worship the first beasts mark and so yeah I think what you're looting to
there is kind of like the Bible is talking about the Antichrist and then
the devil is going to come and inhabit the Antichrist body and so because the
Bible talks about him receiving a deadly wound and he's going to die and then
he's going to kind of a mock death barrel resurrection and that's gonna be
the devil giving him power and he's gonna give life under the image of the
beast and there's gonna be kind of this Trinity of you have the Antichrist you
have this false prophet and you have the devil kind of inhabiting him and there
it's like an evil Trinity right and they're causing everybody to worship that image
what do you think about the dream in Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel of Nebuchadnezzar's
dream the head of gold I'm sure you yeah I'm sure you've heard about the
interpretation where it's empires coming one after another where you have we have
Babylon you Babylon the Medo-Persian Empire which kind of like the arms
it's like the two joint and then you have the Grecian Empire with Alexander
Great and then you have the Roman Empire which was iron and then it kind of has
like a foreshadowing of the future with the toes with the iron mixed with clay
and Rome had a western and eastern empire so that's why you have two legs
there yeah and then the iron mixed with clay and something really interesting
about that iron mixed with clay meaning that the broken pieces of the Roman
Empire would never cleave to each other again and you have so many people
throughout time trying to reconstitute Europe into an empire like Napoleon or
Charlemagne before him Hitler and then even even Hitler and there was a statue
of Daniel that Wilhelm during world that's I think that was the Kaiser in
World War one okay I don't know if I have his name right I'm pretty sure his
name was Kaiser Wilhelm and there was a statue of Daniel just to give you an
idea like what we were talking about earlier how people in times past knew
the Bible better than the average person does today so there's a statue of
Daniel and knowing that it says that these broken pieces would never cleave
together again Wilhelm had Daniel's head removed off of the statue and put his
own head on the statue as if to say no matter what this prophecy says I'm gonna
unite Europe and then Hitler came along took Wilhelm's head off put Daniel's
head back on then tried to unite Europe in the Reich as if to say I don't even
Daniel says it will never cleave together I'm going to do this and so
that's a pretty interesting little tidbit but I just wanted to say all that
to say that I would submit that the first beast of revelation is the papacy
is Roman Catholic Church as it functioned as a state and a church and I
would also point out that a lot of the reformers believed this and knew this
going even back to Wycliffe and Tyndale they all knew this they were all in
agreement that that was who was persecuting the Saints and I remember
even reading a author from the 1800s who is in Europe who was saying well these
kids today like they don't even know like the things that we've all fought so
hard to to learn you know such as baptism by immersion and all these
justification by faith and that they were just forgetting all this that they
had worked so hard over the years and died for all these biblical truths were
being lost and then you know in the 1800s is when you have evolution coming
is when you have Marxism coming yeah and we've been worth for it ever since but
what do you think about the beast of Revelation well definitely the Bible
when it's talking about the beast it's kind of a lot of metaphors and a lot of
imagery of course the Catholic Church is really as a whole is really an
important figure in kind of just history I think that it's very likely personally
that the false prophet could be the Pope at whatever time in history we find
ourselves when we're kind of ushered into that particular timeline so I think
that you know when some people even think like you know the end times Babylon was
Rome because it's like a city set on seven hills and things like that I think
that it's probably more metaphorical there's a film that pastor Anderson
made called Babylon USA where he he personally believes that America is the
end times Babylon and you know you see the Babylon kind of shifting to
different world powers in different places throughout times in history I
think that I would oh sorry sorry I think that the the Catholic Church is
certainly part of the of the beast system and he's part of what the the
whore has kind of been riding on but I think it's probably bigger than that
personally it's like even it's even bigger system than just limited to the
Catholic Church and I think that you know a lot of times it's kind of talking
about the individual specifically of the Antichrist sometimes it's kind of just
talking about the right the bigger picture of like these kingdoms and what
the whores is kind of writing on you know it's it's a lot of imagery and
pastor Anderson did another sermon series like the Revelation series where
he's gone on a lot of details of this you might find it interesting because
he's covered every single one of these chapters and gives a pretty detailed
opinion of you know like what he thinks some of that imagery is you know I
sometimes I just kind of hold to it yeah I just hold to opinion I don't it's hard
to know right now exactly yeah we're just having a discussion like I like I
said I don't know what the mark is but just in saying that the beast is Roman
Catholicism doesn't mean that I condemn all Catholics or something like that
just like America does evil things at the behest of the New World Order all
over the world that doesn't mean all Americans are evil but in continuing
with the casting of the characters of Revelation I would say that the USA
would fit into the role of the second beast as that Anglo-American
establishment basically as a Brit Britain USA Australia the whole Anglo
Commonwealth Empire could possibly because it says it rises out of the earth the
first beast rises out of the sea meaning and the Bible tells us that means
people's nations tongues but coming out of the earth what does that mean so
these are all just interesting things to to think about I think there's a lot of
precursors because I think that Hitler is like a is a foreshadowing of what the
Antichrist is gonna be like someone that rules the power and is trying to like do
world domination he failed right so he wasn't the exact thing you kind of
brought up a Daniel's image where you see you know and I don't know much about
that history I thought was interesting we were talking about this guy trying to
superimpose his image on this like Daniel statue and I think that you know
and another parallel that's not the end times fulfillment but like just how
about Bohemian Grove where you kind of have all the world's leaders all coming
together to this secret event they're all called out like in the Bible to the
plains of Dura and then they have to literally worship this image they have
to actually bow down to this and I think that's what actually gave Alex Jones his
initial popularity isn't that right Ben didn't isn't Bohemian Grove like one of
Alex Jones like big 9/11 came before that but yeah Bohemian Grove was like
the second big thing that just propelled him into into the world's eye
but sorry I didn't mean to cut you off there no you're good because you you
followed Infowars quite a bit and what what kind of like caught your eye like
how did you even find out about Alex or Infowars I would say it was it was the
9/11 a lot of the 9/11 content really for a lot of people 9/11 tends to be the
first door that they open that causes a domino effect and then they go deeper
and deeper down the proverbial I guess rabbit hole you know we like to say
that but no I would say that 9/11 was how I found out about him but I did
watch the clip stuff yeah I did watch the clip that you brought up where he
snuck in and took video footage of the Bohemian Grove and as we're talking
about some of this end time stuff it made me think a little bit about the
footage that he got because it's a bunch of wicked people that are bowing down to
an image and going through some sort of weird satanic ritual what it's like if
you didn't if you decided to walk out like wouldn't that almost be like you're
walking out on political power like they're not going to give you the
authority so are you that maybe even killing you I don't know I mean to be in
the club that's the place where you had to go right so maybe there was a fiery
furnace for those who didn't bow down I don't know but it definitely gives me
this idea of a similar concept and I think a lot of these foreshadowing and
minor types are just building up and maybe Satan's perfecting his craft here
as it were and the the End Times Revelation is kind of the the finale show
it's the it's in the fireworks when they just shoot all the fireworks off or
something and we're seeing it on a big scale like we've never seen before but
what do you think about this beast thing in the Catholic? Yeah I was certainly gonna bring that up and I think that the Pope is the false prophet I would agree with you I think the Pope is the false
prophet brought up in the scripture and I think we actually see him in Revelation
chapter 13 where it says in verse 11 and I beheld another beast coming out of the
earth and he had two horns like a lamb and he spake as a dragon and he exercised
it all the power of the first beast before him and cause it the earth and
them which dwell therein to worship the first beast whose deadly wound was
healed and so the Antichrist when it refers to the deadly wound being healed
obviously we know is going to die and come back again to mock Christ but I
think there will be a false prophet who is used by the by Satan to get people to
worship the Antichrist and that false prophet I believe is my prediction is
the Pope but I have a question for you since we're talking about this subject
Revelation 13 - it says in the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard and
his feet were as the feet of a bear and his mouth as the mouth of a lion and the
dragon gave him his power and his seed and his great authority and so it brings
up these beasts and pastor Shelley as you know these animals are also
referenced in Daniel chapter 7. My guess what I believe the way I interpret this
is that the reason why those four beasts of Daniel chapter 7 all appear in the
one Revelation 13 beast is because the Bible is trying to tell us that the
coming New World Order - that's what our podcast is about - the coming New World
Order, the planetary government coming in the end times, will be as powerful as
all of those other historical kingdoms combined. What's your reaction to that?
Yeah, I agree. I think that, like me and my dad will go back and forth on
this and he's like telling me that America is just not going to be under
this anti-crisis system, but I think that it's gonna be a literal worldwide
domination, you know, apart from just maybe some third world areas and
countries that technology hasn't crept to, you're gonna be under the watchful eye
of the New World Order. And it's not that they aren't technically under their
authority as well, it's just maybe harder to monitor or harder to enforce their
rules per se, but I think in the developed world and the world at large
that this kingdom is gonna be a worldwide conquered kingdom. I mean the
Bible talks about in the first seals there's gonna someone go out to conquer
and and conquering and that he's successful basically he's gonna he is
gonna conquer and and claim all the territory. That doesn't mean that
necessarily I think every place is gonna be invaded or that war will be on
everybody's doorstep. I just think economically, financially everybody be
subservient to this new kingdom. And I agree with your dad totally it's
painful to think of America being recaptured after declaring our
independence. Like what Ben said, getting back to the title, every country that the
Anglo-American establishment, New World Order UN goes into sets up the banking
system. They take people out of power, put puppets into power. So Satan is
working through these powerful nations using the US's military as its muscle to
go in and prepare the ground for this great satanic emergence, what Alice A.
Bailey, this woman that the UN says is like their prophetess, calls the
externalization of the hierarchy, some kind of satanic emergence or
something. But basically you have the financial systems being prepped, the
political systems, and then you have people like in Bohemian Grove type
ceremonies being almost like initiated into this control system. Whether it be
like Epstein type blackmail or just literally preparing their hearts to
worship idols in that in that way. And I wanted to comment on one
little thing about, oh yeah, how the beast in Revelation is comprised of all the
beasts from Daniel. And I feel like that it has an element of combining from
those great empires elements of these worship systems. Just like how the elites
are obsessed with ancient Egypt and Alistair Crowley went there and like
summoned a demon that he drew a picture of and it looked like a gray alien. And
that the elite are obsessed with occult practices and with they're not interested
in the King James Bible. They're interested in seeing what debauchery the
ancients participated in and what fallen entities they were able to communicate
with. And so does this technology, weapons technology, you know mind control
technology, is that being you know communicated through demonic agencies? I
don't know. I think that's something to consider. Can all technology be used for
good? Yeah of course. Like that we're using this you know Skype situation to
talk to a lot of people about about Christ and about all these issues, the
King James Bible, Revelation. And so we're taking this you know technology
that was probably used to attack God, probably meant to attack God, to fight
for God. And here's another thing, the same years that you have like evolution,
Marxism all coming out, Morse code is developed. And I think the first thing
ever sent on a Morse code was what hath God wrought with this or something, this
this verse. And I think it's very telling, like think about how much evil has
been you know sent all over the world using the internet, using communications
devices, music, Hollywood, like random villages in India where they you know
are watching horrible sexualized violent Hollywood movies right? So Satan is using
this technology and we have to use this technology for good like what Infowars
does, what Baptist Bias is doing. And so anyway I didn't mean to just ramble on.
No I think that was a good point and you know we I think we could talk for
another like five hours and I would be up to it but we probably do need to land
the plane and I think that you know this is the right attitude that even tools
that the devil or the Antichrist might use against us we can use for good and
you know when it comes to the Antichrist one-world government and the
New World Order agenda I think that we don't want to get too black-pilled and
afraid of technology that we become Amish hermits and we just go and hide
and we want to reach people you know and obviously we brought up the Catholic
Church as being kind of wicked and the Pope being wicked but I agree with you
that 99% of Catholics don't even really know what being a Catholic means and
they're really nice people and we try to preach the gospel to them and love on
the Catholic people and the goal is it's an info war we're out there trying to
spread the truth and we're trying to reach people with the gospel and to get
them saved and why not use technology to do that. Obviously Alistair Crowley
I think you referenced he praised the day that TV was created as being some
special you know invention or tool or device for the devil and it certainly
has been used for that but at the same time I think we can still use these
things for good and preaching the gospel and getting the truth out there. I'm not
afraid of technology. I think that we should embrace it and use it but at the
same time I think it's important for us to be awake to the evil agendas that
want to use this for a negative purpose as well. But before I go I want to is
there any last thing you wanted to kind of bring up Ben or you wanted to address?
No I mean I think we pretty much covered it all here on the program. I will say in
reaction to what Brian talked about just a few moments ago is I think he's
spot-on about the mark of the beast being a counterfeit and I think that's
what the Bible eludes to. We know that God uses a mark in Ezekiel chapter 9
even in Revelation itself regarding the 144,000 who are sealed in their
foreheads with a mark that came from God and it's the devil who will counterfeit
that concept because he is the counterfeiter. We see him counterfeiting
Bibles. We're gonna see him using counterfeits in the End Times as well. So
I thought Brian was spot-on there with his assessment. But pastor, what do you
think? I mean, I believe that even though all of this is gonna come to pass, the
Bible tells us a world government is coming, right? It alludes to it in all of
these prophetic passages. But I don't know about you, but I still feel like
really hopeful because we've got Christ on our side and there's still many good
works, great works, mighty works. The Bible talks about they that do know
their God will do great exploits during the end time. So don't you feel that
optimism even with all of this coming down the pike? Yeah, there's a lot of
optimism and you know right now, I mean we got over 170 people watching on
Rumble livestream. We're on the front page of Rumble. We're the second video in the
podcast section. So you know I think there's a lot of people that want to do
something. They want to get out there. They want to preach the gospel and of
course we want to get you plugged in in the most important info war and that's
preaching the gospel, getting into church, getting people saved and you know we
don't want to just only touch that topic. We like talking about you know
interesting things about history and the Bible because you know when you don't
know history you repeat it and you know that's one of things I like about your
show Brian is how you bring in a lot of history, bring in a lot of facts because
the truth is always going to be attractive it's always going to match
with history and reality and you know I appreciate you coming on the show and
and being willing to talk about these issues and you know we obviously have a
bad despise over here but we like to bring on guests that had different
perspectives and different ideas and you have a show it's it's red-pilled TV how
do people you know watch your show or find you or or check out more of your
information well I'd say check out all the great content on band.video or go
to info wars calm but band.video has a whole list of great contributors on the
side there on the carousel on the top and I want to try and get you guys a tab
on there and just in a closing remark about the subject of this which I feel
like we got in a good way a little deviated from but the new world order
and as Alex Jones would say it's not coming it's here yeah we'll know when
revelation is coming to pass when we see the mark and when Christians are being
killed for what they believe but don't make any mistake the new world order is
definitely a not something you want to toy around with there's some bad people
all right there's some bad omris as you might say so it's good to shine a light
on them so they can't move around in the dark as easily yeah I agree with that
well thanks again so much for being on our show and we want you to tune in to
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that's pretty much gonna do it for us this evening Ben why don't you sign us
off thank you so much for tuning in to the broadcast tonight for pastor Shelley
for Brian Wilson this is Ben Naim signing on God bless you all and we will
talk to you guys again after a while