The election draws close, it's difficult to predict who will be selected.
The pro-abortion, pro-LGBTQ, pro-immigrant, Zionism-loving leftist, and on the other side,
there's Kamala.
Honestly, the devil might be embarrassed to be associated with Communist Harris.
I mean, Democrats are so evil that the son of perdition seems a little far right these
days.
If we want to mutilate children in the name of healthcare and bring in a big brother AI
Skynet Iron Dome to squash dissenting opinions, frankly, 1984 could be coming in 2025.
But if Republicans have their way and we outvote the machines, we can all be five years away
from impending doom, considering the fact that Republicans seem to have the Democrats
positions from the last election cycle.
Unless you're sick of all the abortion, inflation, wars, compromising, migrants, trannies, and
you're hoping the election will change all this.
Sorry to say, neither candidate wants to fix any of these issues.
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We've got a special guest that's going to be coming on the show this evening.
We might even take a few callers and we're going to be talking about a lot of things
to do with the election, politics, Trump, Kamala and everything in between.
How do you feel about this election cycle, Ben?
Who's going to get selected?
Man, it seems like they're gearing up for the steal, to be honest with you.
All they really need to do is just get that margin for error or get that margin close
enough, I should say, between the two candidates to where they could steal it for Kamala and
then come up with a believable narrative for the brainwashed zombies out there.
So I don't know.
It's not looking good for Trump, I don't think, but I could be wrong.
Well, we have a special guest that's joining us this evening, Dominic Michael Trippi from
Twitter.
Let's see if we can bring him on the show.
How's it going?
It's going great, pastor.
Thanks so much for having me on.
I like your hat there.
It's kind of like a black MAGA.
What's going on with that?
So it's the new black MAGA.
I'm not going to lie, I'm a little bit discouraged with what I'm hearing from the Donald Trump
campaign at this very moment, but I'll tell you what, I feel like the alternative is truly
extremely bad for America.
So we're going to rock it, man.
It doesn't hurt that I'm also bald, so we'll rock it today.
The black MAGA, I like it.
So of course, there's a million opinions on this election cycle.
Just to kind of get started, I want to introduce you to our audience a little bit before we
kind of talk about some of these things.
So it sounds like you definitely follow a lot of politics and everything.
Can you give us a little sample of what you do and what you like to talk about and some
of the politics you're into?
Yeah, absolutely.
So for about the last four and a half years, I've worked very closely with Owen Schreuer,
who is a host and journalist for Infowars.com.
He actually is a close friend of mine back from high school, and I'm 36 to give you an
idea of how long we've been friends.
But for the longest time, we used to just talk politics privately, and then eventually
he was like, "You know, Dom, you're really on the ball with this," and I have a background
doing some sports radio here where I'm from in St. Louis.
So just over time, we kind of shifted course and started to discuss political topics.
And after 2020 and after COVID and the whole, you know, what I consider to be completely
stolen election, I kind of became energized and totally honed in on this.
So previously I had a career as an executive in the freight industry and the logistics
supply chain industry for about 11 years and after 2020 due to some of the vaccine situation
and all that nonsense, I decided to start working with Owen permanently.
And you know, now I find myself, you know, discussing this stuff with you guys.
Cool.
You've got like a YouTube plaque in the back.
What is that about?
So I used to work for, are you familiar with a political commentator by the name of Savannah
Hernandez?
Yeah, I know who that is.
So that's actually a gift from when I was the producer for her before she got her first,
what is it, either 10,000 subscribers or whatever amount it is.
But that was just a gift for me to her.
And I'm not going to lie, it looks good on the set.
So it doesn't hurt.
Yeah, there you go.
Cool.
I was just kind of curious.
I wanted to ask about it.
So they handle things out.
I guarantee you, if I was trying to do my own channel on YouTube nowadays, it would
100% for sure be banned within the first few episodes.
So at this point, now this is kind of like, oh, we'll just get into it.
I don't know if you guys are aware of the potential legal situation over at Infowars,
but it appears that it could be tenuous.
Basically, their days may be numbered.
So we've kind of been preparing to be able to launch something that's, I guess you could
consider it like a spiritual successor.
But basically, I got to be ready to stream at any moment's notice and actually bring
some decent content to the people, especially to some of the InfoWars audience that may
be scrambling and looking for a place to go.
Obviously, I love Alex.
I know Alex personally, close friends with Owen.
So this isn't anything where we're trying to compete in any regard.
It's more just if for some reason they do indeed get shut down.
We do want to have at least some ideation of the same type of idea available to the
audience.
I mean that makes sense.
Obviously that audience is going to still have an appetite for that content and they'll
be looking to find some secondhand option wherever that may be.
It may even be bigger.
Who knows?
I know a lot of people, a lot of my circle has watched InfoWars at least at some point
in their life and so sometimes I feel like I have some InfoWarriors.
He asked if you've been on InfoWars.
No, I've never been on InfoWars.
We have an account on the Band.video and then some of my pastor friends have been on a
few times.
We have some friends over there and Owen's actually been on our show a couple of times
which is really nice that he came on our show.
We've also had Brian Wilson from Red Hill TV so he's been on our show a couple of times
and so we definitely like and appreciate the guys over at InfoWars.
Well, unofficially we'll have to change that.
I'll put in a good word and you're based in Texas, right?
Where are you guys based?
Yeah, we're in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.
Okay, cool.
Are you in Missouri City, Houston?
Say it one more time.
Are you in the Missouri City part of Houston?
No, no.
I actually live in St. Louis, Missouri.
I do travel to Austin quite a bit.
I keep it a little vague on my profile page.
I'm in St. Louis, Missouri probably 70% of the time and 30% of the time I spend in Austin.
Now that's subject to change.
It's probably going to flip here towards the end of the year.
Our hope, man, is we really, at the very least, we want to see Alex and Infowars at least
be able to cover this last election cycle.
It would be really a kick where it really hurts if they were to get this strip from
them in the middle of one of the most consequential elections that we've had in a long time.
I know people say that all the time, but I actually do think this one's pretty important.
Hopefully, we're praying for those guys over there, and yeah, hopefully we keep it rolling
through the election.
I mean, even if they shut down Infowars, he could still stream on X or something, right?
Oh, for sure.
They're never going to be able to actually stop Alex Jones.
At this point, under Texas law, you're able to keep your primary home.
You're able to keep, I believe, your vehicle of your choice.
So, Alex Jones is a legend.
He's going to live just fine regardless, but as far as being able to oversee like a large
media organization or a pharmacy, he does the supplements as well, I just know it can
be problematic when you got that big of a case over your head.
But either way, he's going to be successful.
He'll just join up with somebody else and I'm sure he's going to have success no matter
what he does.
Hey, I hope to work with him too.
Yeah.
Ben, you've definitely watched some MMP awards in your life.
I think he's a little bit of a secret info warrior over here.
Well, not so secret, but no, I've listened to a lot of Alex.
I feel like he's influenced me in a lot of ways and I appreciate the political commentary
that he's delivered for so long now.
He's been in this fight against the globalists, if you will, the ruling class for a really
long time.
It's really a shame to see that InfoWars is under so much attack, but to me that just
offers a stamp of approval on the organization and it just demonstrates that they really
are making a difference politically, given the fact that they're under so much persecution,
so much hatred, and so much pressure to shut down.
You've called it.
Yeah, I agree.
I have called it a number of times.
I know a lot of people give Alex a lot of trouble about the Zionism or the JQ or whatever
you'd like to call it, but I know this, if you look back at his old videos, man, he knows
what's up.
He absolutely knows what's up, but the reality of it is, when you're talking about billions
of dollars of legal pressure falling down on you, if there's certain things that people
are going to tell you not to talk about, even though, of course, we all want to be committed
to truth no matter what, I just think it's ... Because there's some people that I know
that give me a little trouble about it.
They kind of like ... Not in a mean way, but they give me ... They poke fun and they say,
you know, Zionist shill, whatever, and he definitely knows what's up, so for anyone
out there that thinks they're paid opposition or whatever, I assure you it's not true.
Catch him privately and he'll happily tell you some pretty interesting opinions on those
matters.
Well, I definitely don't think they're paying him.
You know, I think that, again, it's a complicated issue and nobody knows exactly what's going
on, but obviously he kind of focuses more on the elitist aspect, which I generally agree
too.
Obviously when we talk about the JQ issue, I don't think that the average Jew living
next door or down the street has got a secret meeting on Zoom every day where they're controlling
the world or something like that.
So obviously, you could take the JQ a little too far, and I even think in my crowd we have
some people that maybe take the JQ a little far.
What do you think about that, Ben?
I mean, you could argue that, maybe a few personalities I'm thinking of.
But at the same time, I think it's important to address that issue, but in a productive
way.
Not just hating every single Jew, but then still pointing out that, well, there's kind
of a correlation to a lot of these, "elites and globalists" being Jewish as far as their
religion or their descent or their heritage or what they were kind of raised.
And so, it's just all these coincidences, right?
I mean, the majority of bankers happen to be Jewish and the Hollywood elites and the
people who own the news media and the presidential cabinet and just happen to be the most influential
people in the world.
Even Jordan Peterson, they all have a 20-point IQ advantage over us, so it's not anything
nefarious.
They're just so much smarter, Ben.
Yeah, evidently.
I think that there are some in this JQ crowd that are weird, and they're Hitler lovers
and they're just socially awkward, and so it kind of makes some people shy away, especially
in mainline conservatism, it makes them shy away a little bit from going down the road
and really exploring Zionism, but the reality is, they are overrepresented in media, in
Hollywood, amongst the ruling class, the banking system like you referenced, and acknowledging
that reality, it's possible to do that without being a complete weirdo, like perhaps some
of them.
Yeah, it's a pretty interesting phenomenon how it just seems that people get into this
rabbit hole and they just get, for lack of a better term, just totally obsessed.
It's almost like any other important issue that plagues our country or the world.
They just always circle back to the same thing.
Look, I'm someone that I enjoy talking about that, if you will, only because it's a little
bit new as far as being in the realm of acceptability to discuss on major platforms.
You see Candace Owens and such talking about it now, and plenty of others, but yes, people
have the propensity to get a little bit carried away, and I think that people need to focus
on academic and educational based touching on that topic rather than just going, or of
course, if you want to speak to the biblical, all the stuff that's in there about it.
There's plenty of content that is legitimate, but there's also some stuff that, whether
or not it's even true, it just comes off like it's in bad taste and it's not going to make
anyone do any more research, it's just going to make them think that you're kind of a,
I don't even, I don't want to curse, but it starts with an A and it rhymes with all at
the end.
And I would add too that pointing out the ideological inconsistency between an America
first political position and an unconditional support for Israel and fighting Israel's wars
as well is a pretty good angle to take and I think that can resonate with a lot of people,
especially in the Trump camp.
One hundred percent.
I mean, if you just simply point to the disproportionate influence that we all know about or you point
to the blank check security guarantee for foreign wars that really don't benefit America
in any way, you can go back to Iraq and Afghanistan and all the other reasons.
But overall, I mean, if you were just to point out all the big players and almost all of
the largest industries that run our country, I mean, it's undeniable.
So that doesn't even mean that I feel a certain way about them, but it's just a fact.
So I think when you show people actual facts and they look for a minute and they're like,
"Oh, wow, that's crazy."
And then you can even say something like, "Do you really think all these prominent figures
over thousands of years have criticized these people?"
Some of them are known as some of the best intellectual, top intellectual minds of their
time.
Do you think they all just came to these conclusions because they're dumb?
No.
They're envious.
So, you know, I could go on and on for that forever, but ...
Well, you know, we could tie this to the election a little bit, and this is my ... This is kind
of a segue into the election itself.
If the ... Let's just go with the JQ narrative.
This is what I find interesting.
It seems like, and it seems like at least the media even embraces this idea, that Trump
is the most pro-Zionist candidate.
He's the most supportive of Israel that he's kind of the most pro-Jew, and obviously he
has family members.
I mean, his wife ... I'm sorry, his wife, but his daughter married into a Jewish family.
He had a Hanukkah celebration in the White House.
There was a special commemorative ... I can't remember what the ... It was a ceremony, some
Jewish ceremony where they were honoring Donald Trump for being so pro-Israel a few years
ago.
They obviously did some major things in Israel as far as moving the Capitol.
If the JQ narrative is really there, they're controlling everything, why would they not
be bringing Trump in?
Wouldn't that almost appear in Trump's favor if that was the case?
I'm curious, how do both these narratives work?
If all the Jews are controlling everything, then wouldn't Trump just definitely win?
I always said that, and I have actually said that to a lot of people that love to just
constantly talk about the JAQ, and that's the only thing they want to talk about.
And I've said to some people, look, I get it.
I'm against the Zionist grip over our country.
I'm against some of the things, especially how Trump has taken great lengths to moderate
his campaign.
I mean, I want it to go probably a little further right in most instances.
So I get the trouble with it, but it's like, man, even if it's only marginal, he's just
a lot.
I really worry about the future of the country if it's Kamala Harris and what's really just
the rogue administrative state continuing to run the country as they have the last few
years instead of Joe Biden.
So although it's kind of weird for me to think this way, it's almost like right now an enemy
of an enemy is my friend.
And it's like, if I got to kind of like lay off the Jays here for a couple of months just
to shore up this victory and then go right back to hitting it the day of the inauguration
for the next four years, then I'm cool with that because I just, you know, we're it's
kind of like whichever one you're getting, man, it's two slices of a kosher sandwich.
You're going to get you're going to get Zionist control with Kamala.
You're going to get Zionist control with Trump.
So at this point, you're going to just pick the taste of your kosher sandwich.
And I guess in this case, it's Trump.
Yeah, I like that point.
And again, I'm not against anybody that votes for Trump because I understand.
I understand recognizing this is the lesser of two evils.
So I'm just going to go with the lesser of two evils.
I guess from my perspective, in trying to be an ideological leader, since I have so
many issues with Trump, it's hard for me to think that he's going to fix our nation.
I guess I think of it this way.
It's like our boat has all these holes in it and we're sinking.
And one option is to blow more holes into the boat and the other option is to put a
sock in the hole.
And it's like, yeah, obviously putting a sock in the hole isn't going to necessarily
hurt anything.
It would technically slow it down a little bit.
But I can see why you don't want to blow more holes in the boat.
I get that.
But I'm just saying, I just think we're kind of going in a down direction in general.
And so it'd be nice to still try to hold some of these candidates accountable and maybe not
necessarily feel like, well, they're definitely going to get all the Republican vote or they're
going to get all of the right vote or the conservative vote or the Christians vote
just because I'm the lesser of two evils.
It would be nice if he felt pressure to come back our way.
And I think it's a legitimate question.
Some people are saying is he potentially losing too many people by becoming moderate and not
really gaining anyone?
And I mean, I guess I don't really see a lot of women out there who are just these rabid
pro-abortion women that are like, well, Trump kind of capitulated, so now I'm going to vote
for Trump.
Like I feel like they probably already made up their mind.
I don't know if going moderate really makes a difference.
I'm kind of curious your opinion.
Do you think you really think there's a lot of people who are hanging in the balance still?
You know, so I thought about this a little bit before I hopped on here with you guys.
And I was just thinking to myself, considering all the different factors that results in
Trump being more moderate.
And I think that people, there's hardly anyone right now that is undecided as far as they
don't like Donald Trump, they're not going to vote for Donald Trump.
He could personally give them a telephone call and say, "Hey, aside from him giving
someone a personal telephone call and saying, "Hey, I'll give you $20,000 if you freaking
vote for me," they're just not doing it.
And when you talk about the fact that he's reaching out to, he's trying to moderate his
stance on abortion, so he isolates and really puts people, you know, they're back against
the wall for all the pro-life people, which he, if you remember some of the stuff he was
saying in 2016, he was even talking about criminally punishing women that got abortions.
He was going pro-life as possible because he needed to get the vote.
And now he thinks that his cult of personality and his whole, you know, I'm the man, he thinks
he can just turn his backs on those people.
He is risking in the attempt of trying to get people that might vote for him.
And when I say might, I mean 10%, they're definitely not going to.
He is for sure making staunch, former staunch Trump supporters that are very pro-life, plenty
of those people are going to sit home now because now they're basically just voting
for a totally milk toast establishment Republican.
This guy used to be pro, at least he appeared to be pro-life from the fact that he got those
court justices in and they did go ahead and strike down Roe versus Wade.
I mean he was, whether he was being genuine about it or not, he definitely did score a
large victory for pro-lifers.
But now, I mean the guy's falling back on all the promises from before.
He used to constantly talk about how he funded his own campaign.
You couldn't buy him.
He spoke about globalism and how free trade needed to be limited to support American manufacturing.
He talked about issue and immigration.
I mean, for goodness sakes, he talked about building a wall.
Now we're stapling green cards to every college diploma, even if it's a community college.
Give me a break, man.
So, I think he's losing, and I argue this point all the time, actually with Owen.
I think that his attempt to get down the road or down the middle voters, there are hardly
any more down the middle road, down the, you know what I'm trying to say.
There's hardly any more moderates left to try to win over after the last eight years,
especially after things like January 6th and stuff.
People have their minds set in stone.
So outside of maybe some families that typically lean left, but are doing horribly financially,
but we're doing a lot better under Trump, maybe there will be some of those people,
but you just got to understand.
I'm looking right now at some stuff that I have pulled up and I see this is May in comparison
to August, non-college educated or non-college graduate white voters, which is Trump's largest
base.
To put this into perspective, 88% of Trump voters were white in 2016, 85% of Trump voters
were white in 2020.
He was up 25 points with non-college educated voters in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin
in May, and now he's only up 13.
So that's a difference of 12 points in only two and a half months.
That's his main base.
Now we think about minorities.
Look, I love everybody, but this is just the truth.
If you were to pull a black person or whatever, someone that is a non-white person, the chances
that they're going to vote for Kamala Harris for no other reason other than that she's
not white and she's not a man, they don't care about the policies.
They could be the worst policies that's ever been written by any government official in
history, but they see that, they identify with that, and it's a big, big problem.
Trump doesn't match up well at all with Kamala Harris.
Someone they painted as a misogynistic racist going up against this person, it's just a
horrible fit, and I don't think he's a misogynistic racist, not one bit, but they painted him
that way.
All the media apparatus is for her, and it's just not looking good, guys.
That's my honest opinion.
Well, in the chat, the bro J. Stu said, "Okay, you got me."
For 20K, he would vote, so he wasn't going to vote, but for 20K, he's going to vote
for Trump, and I think he would actually convince my whole church to vote if you were getting
a 20K and a phone call from Trump, but here's the thing.
I kind of have this view that almost everybody's probably already decided.
I just don't even think that there's hardly anybody up for grabs, and that's what I always
find so comical about polls.
It's like they kind of act like everybody's just constantly like, "Trump, come on, Trump,
come on."
It's like I don't really see hardly anybody just constantly shifting their opinion.
I think that everybody's already kind of made up their mind who they would vote for.
I would almost argue that it's more about them being motivated to go through the hassle
of voting.
And so when you're changing your platform that Trump's doing, it seems like you're
kind of actually making things worse and not better.
And I don't think you're going to pick up any voters.
I think you're just kind of demotivating those who already are on your side.
And if I were his campaign manager, I would make a lot of decisions differently.
But one thing I think, he should have just probably never talked about abortion.
Just because I think it's a losing issue for him to bring up.
And I think the more that he brings it up, the more just in the media and as a talking
point.
And I think that most voters, they're not voting based on the issues.
They're voting on the ads and the headlines and the talking points, if anything.
So in many cases, you even ask voters about someone's position and they'll say crazy things
about them.
Like, well, Trump just hates black people.
And you're just like, what?
Or Trump wants to, Trump wants to, you know, take all of us and force us to have babies.
He wants 14 year olds to be forced to have babies or whatever.
And you're just like, this is a weird headline, but that's what they see.
So Trump never talked about it.
Then you're kind of like not giving CNN, ABC, the Associated Press, all these, all these
institutions opportunities to constantly put headline after headline out about him talking
about it.
But I would think that it would be better if he just focuses only on his winning issues
to say, "Hey, we're ending migration.
We're ending the foreign wars in Ukraine.
And what if, God forbid, a President's candidate said we're actually going to have free speech
in our country again?"
I think that almost everybody's sick of censorship, even a lot of people on the left.
And so I think if he said, "Hey, we're going to hold big tech accountable.
We're going to bring back free speech.
We're going to make YouTube great again.
We're going to make our border strong again.
And we're going to fight."
And if he just kind of emphasized the fighting and just always shows the picture of his fist
up or something, like I think he could really energize his base to say like, "Yeah, we're
going to go with this guy, not talk about the issues that are not winning issues."
Because I think when he has to talk about abortion, when he has to talk about these
things, like he just, he doesn't give good answers, he's too vague, nobody believes him.
And it's just, he's not picking anybody else up.
And it just pisses all of us off.
I mean, does it not piss you off, Ben, when you hear Trump saying, you know, backtracking
on abortion?
I mean, at one point, Donald Trump said that he thought that people who committed abortion
should be criminally prosecuted.
So the direction he's headed is kind of extreme, as far as how liberal.
I mean, what's your opinion on this, Ben?
I think there's definitely a distinction between his rhetoric on abortion in 2016 versus in
2024.
I mean, he just recently posted on his Truth page that he's going to be good for "reproductive
rights," this leftist term, which means murdering babies.
And I think that whenever he moderates his stance, it doesn't actually pick up any new
voters.
All it does, just to piggyback off of what both of you have said, all it does is just
quell the enthusiasm amongst his base and make it so that people are less excited to
go out and vote for him.
There is no bloodthirsty, God-hating, abortion-supporting, left-winger who sees Trump post on truth
that he's going to be good for reproductive rights and then decides to change their stance
and vote for Trump.
That is not happening.
So all it serves to do when you moderate yourself is piss off your base and make them less
excited about you.
Someone needs to be screaming this at Trump at the top of their lungs to get him to realize
it before it's too late.
Why would you even post that on Truth?
Is there even a leftist on Truth?
Is there even a moderate on Truth social?
That's the dumbest move ever.
If you're putting that on a platform where there's both left and right, maybe you might
reach a few people.
When you're putting it on a pretty much only right-leaning conservative app, that's to
me just like career suicide.
Let's go to a clip here because I want to play someone else that's also pissed about
this and that's the Nick Fuentes number four clip where he's kind of doing this thing called
the "Groipa War" against Trump.
I'm fully familiar with the "Groipa War."
I'm kind of curious about your thoughts, but for our audience's sake, and I just want to
play a little bit of this clip so we can kind of see his opinion and then we can kind of
talk about is this effective, is this even good, what's going on, but let's play this
Nick Fuentes clip.
We don't have the millions, the megaphone, or the donors, but what we do have is the
truth and we do have our voice and we will use it to hurt the Trump campaign and we will
only be able to hurt the Trump campaign as long as it hurts itself with these betrayals.
If Donald Trump came out tomorrow and declared the America first position of an immigration
moratorium, restrictions on legal immigration and a firm commitment not to go to war with
Iran, our attacks would not matter.
If Donald Trump announced that he was putting together a transition team of loyalists and
volunteers from across the country, our efforts would be in vain.
It would not matter and it wouldn't hurt Trump one bit.
And that is why I am pledging in all of our materials, in all of our speeches, everything
that we are doing going forward, we will only use quotes, promises and policies from Donald
Trump himself and his own campaign personnel.
That way, nobody can accuse me or the gropers of unjustly or with a lack of strategy hurting
the Trump campaign.
We will only use his own words.
We will only use the words of his own personnel.
That way, there is nobody to blame if his base decides not to vote other than himself.
We are just an instrument.
We are just a tool.
All right.
We are working.
I think that's good enough context here.
I'm kind of interested in your thoughts on this because, you know, I guess in one vein,
it would be kind of a long-term strategy here in my mind, and it kind of seems different
than what you said, like you kind of just like, let's get Trump in and then we'll deal
with all this.
But, you know, his strategy is to really kind of try to force his hand and if he, if it
doesn't work, I mean, it's very likely that, you know, Trump won't make it.
I mean, what is your opinion about this, quote, "Gropa war"?
I mean, people are calling Nick a fed and hating on Nick too, even from his own crowd.
So I'm just kind of curious what your thoughts are.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I'll say this.
You know what?
I'm a supporter of Nick Fuentes.
I like Nick.
I know that some of the things he has to say might not be everyone's cup of tea, but as
far as what he's done to specifically call out institutionalized Jewish power over America,
I have a lot of respect for the guy and I support him even if I don't necessarily agree
with this particular decision as far as undertaking the Gropa war.
What I'll say is I completely understand Nick's sentiments and I understand his intentions.
If this was last year or this was the beginning of the campaign, I would be volunteering and
I would be 100% supporting it because I do think that the campaign needs to go in a totally
different direction.
I think it needs to be more reminiscent of what we had in 2016 in every regard.
That being said, we're 70 days within and although Nick has a huge following, he's not
like, even if you were the largest political commentator in the United States, I can't
even think of who, even if it was like, let's say it was Tucker Carlson and some other extremely
big person and they all band together and tried to do this, change the Trump campaign.
I don't even think they could have much of an effect in the next 70 days to actually
make tangible changes and have him totally shift course that's believable to anyone.
Because we all know Donald Trump might say some things out of the side of his mouth so
he sounds better situationally, and who knows?
As far as the Gripper War demands, they were talking about firing Chris LaCivita and Susie
Wiles.
They did bring Corey Lewandowski in the next week.
They were talking about taking a stronger position on immigration and immigration moratorium
and totally cutting it off.
Trump ended up doing a speech at the border with the sheriff that Nick even recommended
and had definitely had strong rhetoric about it.
There were some improvements assuredly, but I just think when you factor in, he's got
all these Silicon Valley billionaires now.
He's got Elon Musk and all these other people that I just honestly think that no matter
what Nick does, it's not going to change the direction of the campaign.
And ultimately, I mean, in Michigan last time, I believe the margin of victory was like 11,
12,000, something like that in 2020.
That's where Nick is planning on doing a stop.
Man, I love Nick and I'm not going to disavow what he does.
I just think that in this case, I can understand why people think it's maybe not a good look
because there's just not enough time to make much of a difference.
And I thought he was on, I thought he was really catapulting and really starting to
make some crossover appeal with different parties that were previously totally disinterested
in hearing anything he had to say.
He was coming off and like I said, appealing to different audiences and I definitely think
this hurts.
So I get where he's coming from, although I don't think it's a good idea.
That's kind of where I'm at with it.
I do think it's interesting.
Obviously, he's kind of hitting this threshold of ideological purism and I would say that
I kind of have the same view as far as I struggle to vote for anybody that crosses certain ideological
lines for me.
I heard a speech by Dinesh D'Souza a while back saying, "Well, the purists never really
accomplish anything and you kind of have to capitulate and kind of bolster the Republican
Party."
And he kind of cited opinions like, "Well, notice we've ended abortion through our efforts
and it wasn't the purists and blah, blah, blah."
But I feel like without purists, the party still just keeps drifting really far left.
And so I think that purists have their role, even if it's not an active role, it's kind
of like an anchor that just kind of holds, you know, people to a certain level of extremity.
And so I think that ideological purists still have a valuable role in general.
But I mean, most of the conversation that we're having, which is confusing to me, is
based on the idea that the elections are even real and that they're not going to be rigged.
And I find it confusing because Donald Trump himself is saying like, the election was rigged,
the election was stolen, blah, blah, blah.
And it doesn't seem like we've really done anything to address that and fix that, considering
that all of the states that really matter, I mean, if we were going to say like, what
states really matter, it's pretty much like Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona.
And of course, there are others as far as like Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, some of those
also matter to some degree.
But to me, it's pretty much, however Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona go, in my opinion, it's
going to be pretty much the deciding factor.
When we think about it, it's like Josh Shapiro is the governor of Pennsylvania.
Katie Hobbs is the governor of Arizona.
And in both of these cases, many people were saying there was so much election fraud, so
much like crazy stuff happening in both their election cycles.
Georgia also was at the epicenter of this, and we have Brad Raffensperger, we have Brian
Kemp, who he's been called out for ties to China and all kinds of different things.
It's kind of like, am I really supposed to believe that Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona
are going to have fair elections?
And then does it even matter?
Does any of this matter?
Does the Gripper War matter?
Does Trump becoming leftist matter?
It's almost like it's in the bag, and you see these Democrats, they're just going hog
wild just with the craziest ideologies, just getting weirder.
They don't even seem to care about moderating their policies at all or trying to appeal
to anybody other than their own fan base at this point.
Maybe Kamala's stolen a few good ideas from Trump, like the tax on tips and some of that,
but generally speaking, it seems like everybody on the left is just like, we're going to win,
and the polls are saying they're going to win, and everybody on the right is in fighting
and acting, just forgetting the biggest issue.
To me, the biggest issue about 2020 election was not the campaign, was not Trump's policies,
it was just literally that they stole the election, and the COVID and the mail-in ballots and
all this.
And it's like, it's like we've stopped talking about it.
I mean, don't you remember this Ben, I mean, wasn't, didn't this happen?
Was I alive in 2020?
Like didn't everybody say they were going to steal it?
Why are we even talking about that?
Yeah, it seems like the narrative has shifted to, let's see if we can beat these guys fair
and square when you're fighting an enemy that has no problem cheating, that cheated in 2020,
that is censoring people for even acknowledging the fact that they cheated in 2020.
And so I guess my question for our guest tonight is, have you noticed anything different?
You seem like you definitely study the political landscape.
Have you noticed anything different in terms of new laws that have been passed in some
of these swing states?
I think I heard about something in Georgia that might shore some things up, but is there
anything different at all between the 2024 election and the 2020 election in terms of
election integrity?
Let me just say this.
First of all, you guys are some smart gentlemen because no one, and I mean no one, and I talk
to a lot of different political commentators that are pretty well known, and a lot of them
work for just cookie cutter organizations, TPUSA, but even the Infowars guys.
Me and Owen argue about this hard.
I mean, I think that these people cover it like it's a fair ballgame with fair umpiring
because they just aren't able to get away with really telling the truth, which is that
our government is completely subverted and completely compromised.
When they changed with the emergency, with the whole COVID emergency laws, you know what
I'm saying, when they suspended the normal way, you had to change the state legislature.
When they made these emergency stipulations possible and they changed the way in which
we actually vote, most notably things like mass mail-in ballots, drop boxes, and then
just extending the period of time that you're even able to vote by months.
You can literally vote for like four months in plenty of states.
So they've bastardized the process completely. All of these paid mouthpieces continue to
cover it like it's a freaking baseball game. That's totally fair because they're not allowed
to really black pill their audience and say, you know, the like the most forbidden words
that you can barely say, which is, Hey, if we're really having an honest conversation,
I believe this is a form of government that we might need to take a little review. We
might need to have a review and reconsider something else. Or at least like, I'm not
saying overthrow the government. I'm not saying anything like that, but we need to have a
serious movement in this country to roll back the laws about 20 years at this point, because
things are totally, totally out of hand. We're not prepared for the proliferation of the
digital, you know, the fourth digital revolution or whatever you want to call it, all this
new AI stuff, like, clearly the system is completely rigged for one party. So when everyone
talks about, "Oh, he's going to do well here and he's going to do well here," to answer
your question, Ben, there's been two small things. I believe that Nevada cleaned up their
voter rolls significantly, something like, I want to say a million dead people are off
the roll. It was a significant number. And then I know that Virginia, Glenn Yonkin undertook
a pretty large effort to clean, sorry guys, Glenn Yonkin took a major effort to clean
up all their voter rolls and do significant changes to their election system. But to be
honest with you though, nothing significant has changed enough to make a difference. And
I just think, I mean, what are we supposed to say at this point? They changed how the
elections work. They rigged it in their favor completely. It's, I apologize guys, to actually
believe it or not, it's Owen calling me on my signal application, which just so happens
to be open on my PC, which you're good. My phone is muted, but anyways, it's all rigged.
He got the due call. There's no reason I think it's not going to continue. There's no reason
to think that this is going to be fair. And I think it's a, I think that people, especially
large commentators are really doing their audience of disservice because they don't
say anything about it ever. Where are you guys? You're failing the American people.
Come November 6th or whatever the day after the election, these people are going to be
crying wondering why, why did you say that they were going to win? And you see like cat
turd and the whole squad, all these famous commentators, one video will come out, one
headline and what do you see? They all post the exact same stuff. It's actual propaganda.
Look, I want Trump to win too, but that doesn't mean I'm willing to sacrifice my integrity
and just be fake. I mean, I am sickened by the way these people are acting. They won't
even admit that there is critical concerns. If you think, if you're a Donald Trump fan,
you should be concerned for sure. And if you're to only listen to those guys, you'd think,
you know, red wave, just like in 2022, that didn't happen.
Well, I mean, for the first, I feel like three years of 2020, only thing Trump could talk
about how the elections were rigged and it was stolen. And then we just completely forgot
that narrative. And, you know, I've talked to, I know a lot of family members and personal
friends who are just like, they're mad at me that I don't even want to go vote. And,
you know, I'm kind of, you have the black MAGA hat, I have like the super black pill
hat for elections. And I'm just like, it's just hard for me to vote, you know, feeling
so negative about how the process is. And, you know, it's frustrating that we didn't
really address those issues. You know, Texas tried to file a lawsuit with the Supreme Court
saying that other states not having fair and clear elections is a violation of our right
as Texas to represent ourselves legitimately in the presidential election. And it was thrown
out, which I thought that was completely inappropriate, should be addressed. If other states are going
to have a kangaroo court election, then that's not fair to the states that are actually going
to do it right. And so, you know, that should have been addressed and just nobody wants
to address that issue because I think it's worse than we think. And, you know, I think
that the government and politics is downstream of the culture though. Obviously, from my
perspective, I think because we've just, you know, you said you want to roll back the
laws 20 years. I want to roll them back to 1673. So, you know, I want to go back to when
Christian nationalism wasn't a bad word. It was just reality that, hey, you have to adhere
to what the Bible says in general and that that's the context upon which our constitution
was framed. And so, you know, that's what I would love to see. But at the end of the
day, like, when it comes to, you know, this voting stuff, I just kind of have this bad
feeling that it's already rigged. I'm not going to say that because it's rigged, though,
that means that Kamala will for sure win because since Trump's just so pro-Israel and I think
that, you know, a lot of people that are in control, they like America still being, you
know, a country, I think they even recognize like, man, if we bring in this chick, like,
we might all be homeless and it's like, so, you know, I wouldn't even be surprised if
the establishment wants Trump to win and I've almost even kind of wondered if they want
to win to kind of cover up the election fraud because they don't, they don't want civil
unrest and they don't want people to freak out and I think if Trump loses, the narrative
is going to be it was stolen again and I think that, I think it would be, I personally
just think that if we just had a fair election, it wouldn't even be close.
I think that Trump would win so big, it wouldn't even, it would be just like earth shattering
the reality of how many people actually vote for Trump and how much fake the people and
the support is for Kamala.
I think it's all a sham and all a scam anyways but I do believe that, you know, they want
us to think that we're just on pins and needles.
You know why?
Because then we watch the news.
Can you imagine if we were going to have an election and they said Trump's up by 80 points
and Trump's going to win 400 to 100?
Nobody would care.
Nobody would watch the news.
Nobody's making videos about it.
Nobody's talking about it.
Nobody's raising money for all these political campaigns which they're raising hundreds
and hundreds of millions of dollars and it's like where's all that campaign money going
and where's all the lobbying efforts on both sides of the equation?
The election is so much money and it used to be not that way in the past.
It's become such a money maker, it's like the Super Bowl or something.
Like I just can't see them wanting to walk away from this even if one person was going
to for sure win.
So I think that the goal is to always keep it, you know, a tight race to the end just
to keep the viewers and the money flowing.
I mean, Ben, how confident are you that this election is even real?
Not confident at all and I think you're right that the narrative is it's a close race to
keep viewers engaged with the story and the media establishment needs you to be engaged
with the story right up until election day so your eyeballs are on the television screen
watching their coverage of this election and so there may be some artificial means by which
they do that.
But I wanted to also mention real quick just because what you were talking about there
about whether or not the establishment would like a Trump victory or not, I do think that
there are Jewish donors who for sure would benefit from a Trump presidency.
I think there's-
Everybody would.
Yeah.
CNN, ABC, everybody would.
A lot of them would.
I do think that there's elements of the establishment that can work with Trump and that can try
and manipulate him or try to negotiate with him and get their way on some things.
I also do think though there appears to be a deep state that doesn't want them given
the fact that they tried to kill him.
So it is a bit of a complicated issue for me in that regard, but one thing is for sure
is they want to at least make you think that it's anybody's horse race so that you stay
engaged in consuming their media right until the very end.
Well, I mean, you know, one thing that I do think is interesting is the RFK Jr. endorsement
though, because I don't think that that's, my wife asked me when is an independent just
throwing all their support behind a Republican or Democrat, and I don't think I can remember
at least in my, you know, adult life at least, and so I do think that that's an interesting
move.
Is that kind of a signal like we're worried and we need this extra, this extra boost?
Or does RFK know that Trump's going to win and he just wants to hitch his wagon to the
winner?
I mean, I'm kind of curious, what do you think on this, Michael, like the RFK move, it's
kind of an interesting move.
Has this happened in a recent like 20 or 30 year cycle?
I don't think so.
I feel like Ross Perot always stayed independent.
I'm trying to think.
You see it happen on the reverse.
You see Republicans support Democrats all the time, but you don't really see a ton of
Democrats come over and report and support Republicans.
Even right.
I'm trying to think like even like, as far as what I think about the RFK thing, though,
honestly, man, I think that that's, I think he regrets picking JD Vance, you know, there
was reports in April that he asked RFK to be his running mate to kind of have a coalition
government.
And that does coincide with the moves he's made subsequently, which are all geared towards
moderating his campaign and moderating his general message.
So I think it's just more of the same of what he's trying to do.
I think that some campaign managers or whoever else got in his head said, hey, old Trump
was too abrasive for people.
You're going to have to soften on some of these issues.
And I do think ultimately that really doesn't gain many people because they already had
such stigma against Trump, and it does alienate his voters that really identified with some
of those more, you could call them hardline or controversial stances, but really they
were just good right wing political stances.
And I do think he made two very, very good points.
Do you think it's because of Rogan?
Because didn't Rogan say he was going to vote for RFK?
Do I think this gets the support of Rogan?
No, no, I thought, I didn't, I could be wrong.
I thought that that Joe Rogan like announced that he was going to vote for RFK before like
this.
He loved RFK but I don't think he said he for sure was going to vote for him but he
insinuated that he did, that he would.
I thought that he said he was going to vote for him and then Trump said the next time
Joe Rogan comes into the MMA fight or whatever, he's going to get booed or something.
Yeah, he said that but that was more of just like a childish back and forth.
I don't know if it had any real meaning but you made two really good points though and
I just want to touch on it real quick.
Okay, go for it.
I do think there's a lot of incentive for a Trump victory simply so that they meaning
just the entire government, the powers that be.
I don't think they want the entire citizens, I don't think they want all the citizens
of the United States.
You just think the election is totally rigged forever and I think that if they were to let
Donald Trump win this time, it would kind of be like a "see, we told you so" and their hope
would be that there would no longer be such concerns over the validity or the integrity
of further elections if they were just to let him win.
Also considering that he has moderated his stances, he did govern for four years and
you know what, it wasn't that bad for them.
So I could see the establishment or the powers that be ultimately letting him win.
The other thing you mentioned is that look, if Jewish power is as potent as many of us
think and say it is, then it's true.
I think he can win.
Now I do also think though that the reason why it isn't as cut and dry is because the
states that are under the most contention, those major cities that they always steal
are like super democratic strongholds that aren't really like pro-Jewish.
So like it's going to be hard for you to just convince like the, you know, a thousand black
ladies in Atlanta to like just rig it for Trump because he's for Israel.
I just don't see that, but who knows they've got power in ways that I don't know about.
They do still have a lot of digital election machines and you guys, it's so ridiculous.
They have all the same mechanisms to count the vote and we all sit here and debate it.
It's like, dude, rewrite this whole system, single day voting, paper ballots.
Let's just make this easy and we can all just be normal again.
Yeah.
I mean, every county should be doing it locally and then posting their results publicly and
then they're tallied up so you can fact check it yourself and you should be like, I mean,
you could definitely make it less rigged.
And again, you can't ever escape voting cheating at all.
But when the data is stored in SQL, I mean, I'm just like, and I talk to people that I
know that are computer programmers, and they're telling me like, they're not going to rig
it.
I'm like, if the numbers are in a computer, you can change that whenever and however you
want.
Like it just completely...
Including your bank account.
Like it doesn't matter how much integrity you have to that particular spot.
Like once it's in that spot, you can just do whatever you want.
It's like lock, it's like all these vault doors all the way up to the vault.
But then there's just this secret little door that they're just going to open and just take
all the money out.
And it doesn't matter how much security and how much double counting and checking and
blah, blah, blah you did to get it there.
If you can just run a SQL script and update it, it's just like it's done.
And that's kind of where our systems are.
So it's just kind of silly.
Plus who can even fact check this stuff?
The Secretary of State is handling all these things.
And I think like Brad Raffensperger saying like, "Hey, every county report all the numbers
to me and then I'll tell everybody like who's actually fact checking any of this or looking
numbers."
We had all these hearings.
There was all these reports.
I mean, I think in Arizona and Georgia, they had over 500 witnesses getting up and just
like testifying to all kinds of fraud that was happening in the room.
Nothing was done about it.
Nobody addressed it.
We caught them on videotape, pulling out literal boxes and scanning them multiple times after
they told everybody to go home in Georgia.
I mean, I'm just like, how much clearer voting fraud can you even get?
And yet again, it's just, we're just kind of sweeping into the rug and we don't want
to address it because the whole thing's fake.
I mean, the whole thing is kind of a sham in a sense.
And the perpetrators are also the judge and the jury.
So it's like, there's really no transparency at all, man.
Like if you ask somebody, hey, so once you turn on your vote, like what's the process?
It should be straightforward and like every American probably should know that, but God
only knows it's completely obfuscated to the point of it's different in every, it's not
even just the same in, like it's different in every single county within a state even.
It's absurd.
It has to be completely revamped, especially like, look, this nation's changed, technology's
changed.
Like there's ways, like we do the stuff with our bank and everything else, like there's
ways to definitely verify who you are and all of these other things.
And you know, there's the very obvious and easy argument of like, they argue you don't
even need an ID and all this stuff, like clearly they want to cheat.
They don't even want you to think they're not cheating.
Yeah, IDs are racist though, so Ben, do they even let you have an ID since you're from
the Middle East?
No, we don't know how to get them.
We just know how to blow ourselves up.
We don't know how to actually acquire IDs over in the Arab world.
How did you even get on the plane in 9/11?
That's just, I had a box cutter, you know, that you could defeat the multi-million dollar
air defense system with just a box cutter.
I don't know if you knew that.
I want to mention this because, Dominic, you mentioned the fact that Trump moderates his
stance or has moderated his stance on a few issues and things like that.
And obviously he's trying to court people on the middle.
And we talked about how that's futile because everybody's made up their mind.
But I also want to introduce this to the discussion, which is pay attention to the media response
whenever Trump comes out with a moderate position.
For example, when he disavowed Project 2025, and by the way, even if you don't like Project
2025 for whatever reason, that's not my point.
This is my point.
When he came out and disavowed it multiple times, when he came out with this post saying
my administration is going to be great for reproductive rights, and you go look at Reddit,
you go look at what the fake news media says in response whenever he comes out with these
milk toast positions and they're always saying essentially the exact same thing. Oh, he doesn't
mean it. He's just saying that. Look at what the Democratic Party themselves say whenever
he comes out with these moderate positions. He doesn't really mean that. He's going to
on day one force every single 13 year old to have a child and on day one he's going
to ban abortion federally, etc. They don't care. They just think he's lying. They don't
think he's being serious. They don't think he's telling the truth. So it's even more
idiotic in my mind to go milk toast on purpose because the opponents who you're trying to
win over supposedly and the media that you're trying to gain more favorable coverage from
doesn't even believe you anyway. I mean, let's be honest though. Didn't he say he was going
to put Hillary in prison? I mean, he's going to drain the swamp and you're not even addressing
the Clintons. I mean, what campaign promises did he even keep? And the COVID situation,
while it was difficult, it seemed like he made a lot of bad decisions and trust a lot
of bad people in that particular process. So, I don't think that anybody could genuinely
say like, "I believe everything that Trump says." And I agree with you though on that
point that I've seen a lot of leftist liberal news outlets just constantly bring up progress
2025 as if that's like Trump's mantra for the last four years. And even when he disavows
it and says it's like crazy and weird and he wants nothing to do with it, it's like
they acted like he'd said, "This is my favorite thing in the world and I'm going to implement
it harder now." Like, I don't think he wins anybody over on any of this capitulating.
But at the same time, that conversation is moot if the election's rigged. I mean like,
what does it even matter? To me, this is what I don't like about it. This is what I don't
like about the capitulating. I loved the 2020 campaign because the 2020 campaign said, "Look,
we love America." He's like doing the national anthem. He's saying, "If you love America,
you got to vote for us because Joe Biden's sleepy. He's not driving the wheel. There's
dark forces trying to bring him in." And, you know, I thought that his campaign made
a lot of sense. And look, he got more votes in 2020 than in 2016, which was kind of unprecedented.
He did very well as far as the turnout and how many people voted for him in 2020, despite
the actual fraud. And so, to me, because he's made some of these blunders, because he's
kind of changed, because you now have the narrative of the Gripper War and infighting
and all this other stuff, that if he loses, they could say, "No, this wasn't election
fraud." It was the Gripper War, it was that he compromised, it was that he changed positions,
it was that he got JD Vance as his VP, like all of these different things as opposed to
just sticking to what he has and saying, "If we do this, the only way they're going to
win is if they cheat." And that would put a lot of pressure on them, like, "Are they
going to cheat in the open?" Because to me, that should be the narrative. Are they going
to cheat in the open? Let's all go down there and let's vote so hard that they're going
to just cheat in the open, and we're going to call them out on it this time, or we're
going to out-vote the cheating, which I guess is their mantra behind closed doors. But to
me, that should be what we're focusing on. And that's the only thing. I've heard Stu
Peters say that, and I kind of agree. He said, "I think the only reason we should vote for
Trump is just as kind of a token and a record that the voting is fake." Just like, because
if we didn't vote, then they didn't need to cheat, and then it's like we're kind of letting
them get away with cheating. Whereas if we just all vote and it's just astronomical numbers
and they have to do silly things to make it clear that they cheated again, well, in the
worst case scenario, it wakes a few people up. And so I kind of get that point. I'm just
kind of frustrated by getting away from the narrative of the cheating. And I'm frustrated
by Trump claiming that there was so much cheating and they did nothing about it in the political
office except for whine and cry about it and blame everybody else for not doing something.
Like well, Mike Pence didn't do his job. Well, Brad Raffensperger didn't do his job. Well,
Brian Kemp didn't do his job. Well, Arizona didn't do their job. And I'm thinking like
if you're the president of the United States and you believe that they literally pulled
a coup on you and stole the election from you and all you did was cry on Twitter until
you got banned, like I just think it's kind of a weak response in general. I mean, you're
the commander in chief. If I was Trump, if I was Trump, I would have been reaching out
and I don't know, I don't, to be honest, I don't know if this is legal, but I think
it probably is. I'd be reaching out to the governors or the state people in the state
Senate or state legislature or the senator or whoever and just be saying, hey, you're
up for reelection in 2024. You want an endorsement. You need to be working on the election laws
in your state. So like we have talked about, there's really only like five states that
really matter. I'm sure three of them probably have Republican state legislatures. These
laws that were in place that were supposed to only be there due to emergency mandates
because of freaking COVID, they all need to be eliminated and not a single one of them
is. So it's like, I don't know. And sometimes I'm like, is Donald Trump like the like the
linchpin and the plan to end America, maybe because like clearly, even though I like them
under his watch, you got the shot, you got like this total security state COVID communistic
sense that we've never really dealt with before. You've got this political persecution that's
crazy. And so it's just, man, it's just unbelievable. You know, in my agree, can I make one last
point on some chips? I really think Donald Trump left from the table the last few months.
Let's hear it. So it sounds like all of us believe that, you know, the government is
pretty corrupt, that this that the election was stolen, that there's a lot of nefarious
activities going on. Why in God's name did and sorry for saying it like that, but why
did Donald Trump not blame the administrative state or the Democratic Party for his assassination
attempt? I would have been like these people are coming after me months legalistically.
These people have tried to end my life over the last however many years. And finally,
finally they actually tried. And if you think this skinny little kid with a ladder and an
AR 15 was able to circumvent however many layers of this many different police agencies,
the secret service and everything else. And he was seen by people in the crowd song.
If you really think that that kid was capable of that with no assistance, mind you, we had
three transmitters with him to blow up explosives at his house. He had three foreign bank accounts.
He had all the signs that he was working with the three letter agencies. This is like a
classic, uh, MK ultra type of deal. Now I'm not really into that type of stuff, but clearly
this guy was working with somebody and Donald Trump's going out there being complimentary
of the secret service, acting like this is some random lone gunman. Dude, lean in. You
already say the state's after you. You already say the Democrats are after you. This is your
time to say they're trying to kill me, save me. Like I don't understand how he didn't
say this. I mean, at this point to me, like if you were going to go down a Q tar, you
know, viewpoint, like to me, there's only like two options. And one is like, let's,
let's give the like this white pill option is that Trump has just totally given up fighting
these people with what he says and is just pretending and just going along to be like
a Trojan horse. Like he's really going to be like, like he's really going to bring
in project 25 and, and like go hard. And he just doesn't want to be, he's afraid of them
killing him. So he's just kind of like, yeah, we're just going to be pro abortion and blah,
blah, blah.
Yeah, exactly. That's what I would love for Trump to do. And I think that's the smart
move. I just don't think it's really happening, but I would love it if it was like, Trump
is just like what you just brought up when Jihoo is going to kill all the prophets of
bail. And he says, Ahab served bail little, Jihoo shall serve him much. And he just brings
all the prophets of bail in one place and then just eliminates all of them. Like that
is kind of what he would probably have to do if you were really going to fix a lot of
our issues. But I just don't think that's happening. But it would make sense. His actions
would make sense with that. Like why not bring up the assassination? Why not bring up the
election fraud? Why not bring all this stuff up? Why not bring up what you're going to
really do when you get into office? But you know, it almost seems like the alternative
is that he's kind of given up. Like maybe it scared him a little bit. Maybe he's just
at this point, he's old. He's like, look, I've already put in all the work. If I don't
win the election, I don't win the election. But I don't want to keep hitting the hornet's
nest, you know. And so we'll just kind of see how it goes. I'll do my rallies. I'll
keep doing what they say. But if I don't win, I don't win. And if I do, then, you know,
it works out. Like, I don't know, I'm just kind of like, it almost seems like maybe he's
just kind of given up. And maybe that's the wrong view.
I think there's also the possibility that some, you know, some government agents or
whatever brought him into a room and just said, look, dude, you're either going to do
this or we're going to take your whole family out. Like, like, like maybe we won't do it
right now. So it's not obvious, but we got you by the, you know what? And if you don't
play ball with us, we will literally take your whole family out. You've seen what we've
been trying to do for you. There's plenty of evidence that we're after you. Well, now
mask is off. You're lucky it missed you, but we won't miss the next time.
Right. So I mean, who's to say he didn't just get threatened. I mean, he's still a human
being. So yeah, that's a good point. I agree that the follow up on the assassination attempt
in general has been poor and it's really mind blowing because he was given a gift. I mean,
to have your life come this close from getting, you know, taken out really from dying on national
television the way that it was, you would think the follow up would be that of a campaign
that is super high energy, that everyone is unified around, that is 2016 all over again.
But if I'm being honest, 2016 compared to 2024, I still think, yeah, there is a pretty
big difference there in terms of energy, momentum, enthusiasm in favor of 2016. But you guys
are right on the follow up for the assassination attempt. That one is definitely striking when
you think about it.
I mean, I would love to think that our elections are real, but I feel like because we're not
addressing that, it makes me really jaded towards the political discussion in general.
And I still like to talk about it though, because I think that the messaging is still
important, even in the context of the election fraud, because I just don't want... I would
hate to just chalk up this loss to anything other than election fraud again. I just don't
want it to be like, "Well, it was the Groper War. Well, he went and became too left," or
blah, blah, blah. And again, I'm not really against Nick's position, because I think almost
everybody that likes Nick is still going to go vote for Trump. I just think 98% or 99%
of those people are going to vote for Trump.
I mean, dude, I'm one of them. I really like Nick a lot. I'm not going to go and campaign
with him, because I got a ton of friends that are Trump supporters, and quite frankly,
I don't want to be alienated like that. I just don't. The world's still spinning and
I still got to do stuff and maintain relationships. I support what he's doing because I support
ideology, whatever. I support his intentions. I just think that he's going to end up getting
a lot of hate for it, for sure, because he's going to hold an adjacent rally to the next
Trump rally in Michigan and get as many groipers there as possible. You know the online and
all that, they're going to hate. Like what I was saying, I don't think he moves the needle
enough for it to really be ... I just don't. Yeah, I think anybody that's his supporter,
anybody that's his supporter in one of these states that matters is probably still going
to vote. I could see some of his supporters in a state that doesn't really matter just
being like ... If they live in California, they're like, "Well, I'm not going to vote
now," and it's like, "Oh, okay." That wasn't going to change the election at all anyway,
so it's really easy for you to be like, "Well, I'm not going to vote in California," or whatever,
but I even wonder, some of the COVID stuff, it seems so strategic to just knock a bunch
of Republicans out of some of those states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, and
so just making it just Democrat strongholds so that they can win every election forever.
There's a lot of different things going on there.
And I just don't think that there's really, I don't think there's anything that's going
to change the election at this point.
I think it's locked in.
And to me, the messaging is important because of how it's going to be perceived when whatever
results happen.
And if Trump somehow ekes it out, does that hurt Fuentes?
I'm kind of curious, is Fuentes making a move here that is a win either way or is it a lose
either way?
If he has this groper war, Trump doesn't capitulate and then Trump wins anyways, what
does that do?
And if Trump loses, then does he get blamed for it?
It almost seems like kind of a lose-lose position in my estimation.
What do you think, Ben?
Do you think if either outcome is going to be a positive?
I think it can be a positive if Trump wins, because then at least Fuentes will have a
campaign that he may be able to influence while it's in office.
Yeah, but what if Trump doesn't capitulate?
Like what if he doesn't even moderate, or he doesn't go back to the riot or change
any of his positions?
He kind of just still ignores everything that was said and then just still wins.
Does that not, I'm just curious, is that still a win?
Well, it definitely makes it seem like Nick's influence is not as impactful as he may believe
potentially, right, if he just wins anyway and doesn't really change any of his stances
on anything.
But I do think from an overall perspective though, a Trump presidency does offer Fuentes
and his camp someone in office that he may be able to influence, and I'm using that word
"may" because I really don't know if it's possible, but it could be that Trump moves
more toward the right as a result of pressure that comes from Fuentes types who are out
there.
Dominic, what do you think?
You know, I kind of think it's a win-win.
And the reason why I think it's a win-win is because if Trump wins and he doesn't capitulate
to anything Fuentes says, he can be like, "Well, you know, I held my ground as far
as what my ideals are. I did not, you know, sell out. And now Trump has won. I told you
the whole time that I still like Donald Trump and I still support Donald Trump. I just wanted
to change the trajectory of his agenda and his plan for our future because I'm concerned
about America. Show's America first." So I would think that he can pretty easily kind
of get out of that and I think that the only way that it's a big lose is if he goes to
Michigan campaigns real hard and Donald Trump loses by like 2,000 votes. It would have to
be something where he barely loses in the state that Nick goes to and then it would
be really bad. Let's say he does lose but he loses by 26,000 votes. It's like the 5,000
or whatever. I highly doubt that he could even make a difference of 5,000 in the state.
Let's just say it was that much. But like I just said, man, if it's even anything that's
even close at all, he'll take some heat. But if he does lose by a lot, then he can just
say, "I told you, he needed to change the rhetoric and again, I stood by my principles
and win-win. Now we just live to fight another day with this next administration."
I think that's a good point. You kind of changed my mind on that a little bit. Because this
is what I was thinking. If Trump wins, let's just say he wins hypothetically, every single
one of us, including Nick, is just going to play liberals crying and screaming for three
months straight. And so we won't even care about anything else. We'll just be constantly
showing all of these liberals screaming and crying and just getting so upset. I've seen
a couple of Democrats, I think it was Jamie Raskinson, say, "Well, if Trump wins, we're
going to have to tell him that he was actually an illegitimate candidate. He was disqualified
and we're not going to turn over the power to him anyways and actually Kamala won." And
I don't know if that's a narrative. Is that a narrative? Is that going to happen? Are
we going to have something weird? Are we going to have just a clean election? I kind of feel
like because of the election fraud issue, no matter what, there's going to be a lot
of contention over who even is announced winner. So I think that for at least the election
cycle past November 5th to January 6th or whatever, it's going to be because they got
to get more money out of it, right?
I just wanted to interject quick and say this would expose the hypocrisy of the left even
more because if they were just screaming about how awful it was for Trump to question 2020
and they turn around and do the exact same thing in 2024, that's all I have to say.
You could take it.
They will.
I think that they would for sure.
Let's be real though.
If Trump loses, even if it's like, I hate to admit this, but even if he loses and it's
like you can kind of like see you're reading the tea leaves and you see there's like demonstrative
actual physical tangible reasons why I lost.
It's like you can basically see that maybe it wasn't stolen.
I just don't see this whole group not saying it's, I don't see the Trump crowd saying it's
not stolen basically for like any reason.
And it's because we haven't addressed all of these things like, and we just brought
a very, an endless list of legitimate concerns.
And what happens when you don't address it is it keeps coming up.
So like every time, unless it's a total milquetoast candidate on both sides of the aisle and it's
just total uniparty, which it's already getting that way anyway, it's going to be contentious
every time until we fix this.
And sometimes that means like, let's be real, there's a lot, I'm not going to say a majority,
but there's a healthy percentage of this country that shouldn't be voting at all.
They don't know anything about this country.
They don't care about this country.
They maybe have no ancestry or they have no real binding to this country.
So it's just like, I think we got to get real about what actually the forefathers and how
this country was found and what was it intended to be.
And having, you know, total filth that knows nothing and hates America vote, that's just
not what it was meant to be.
People that contribute nothing, they shouldn't really have a say in my opinion.
Yeah, we definitely fallen far from our Christian founding and the context upon which our constitution
was enshrined.
I mean, it's just, it's absurd to believe that our founders would have tolerated other
religions even for a second when the states clearly had laws outlawing all kinds of religions.
In fact, even many states, it was illegal to even be a Catholic, let alone a Hindu or
an atheist or any of these other things.
I saw this debate kind of between the Oklahoma, maybe superintendent or somebody within their
government, talking about how they had passed some law about teaching the Bible in Oklahoma
schools again, arguing with some Jew, and I think it was Chris Como moderating this.
But this Jewish lawyer is like, "Well, if we're going to talk about the Bible and bring
this up, we have to realize that our founding fathers, they were anti-Jew, and they wanted
the Bible to be followed strictly," and I'm thinking like, "Yeah, let's talk about that."
You're not scaring me with teaching more history in the Bible, and the history constantly repeats
itself, and I would love to see us get back there because I think that's the only way
to fix America.
I think it's a cultural issue.
I think that we have to get back to the Word of God personally, and of course, I want to
make people Baptist again, but obviously we're never just only a Baptist nation and everything
like that, and I know a lot of people have varying opinions on that, but to me, all of
this is just kind of fluff, and I get so frustrated by the fact that all this is so fake and so
many people know it's fake, but then they just keep talking about it.
Do we forget that 2000 Mules was released?
Do we forget that there's just all of these election fraud things that have been pointed
out, and if our elections are rigged, why are we so interested in this?
And again, I agree with you, Hispanic people don't care.
I don't think they care at all about elections.
I think most of their election stuff is kind of stolen from them.
People just walk down and steal their mail-in ballots or give them a ride and give them
a gift card or whatever, or they just simply use their name on the voter rolls.
I think that a lot of immigrants for sure don't care.
Almost all of them probably don't care.
And so, you know, democracy in and of itself is going to really fail when we have a multicultural,
multidiverse group of people.
The poor are going to vote for the guy lying and saying he's going to give them a bunch
of money, which is Democrats, and that's what we have.
I mean, you know, democracy is an ugly thing, and I understand we're a constitutional republic,
but to some degree, we do let the people vote in theory and we allow them to control things
and so, you know, I think that that type of leadership and structure is doomed when you
don't have ideological similarity.
Even like a worse version of Christianity for me, if everybody agreed, would be way
better for the nation than, you know, a specific multicultural environment.
Multicultural environment will be destroyed.
It's not even a question of if, it's a question of when.
We cannot, a house divided cannot stand is what the Bible says.
And so we're headed on a train wreck descent and, you know, whether it's Kamala or Trump
doesn't really matter.
I mean, if Trump was really going to end illegal immigration and stuff and bring in some Project
2025, we could maybe see a little, you know, change.
But then I just don't see it.
And until we have ideological similarity, our nation is doomed.
I mean, what do you think about that?
I don't know that the founders intended on pink haired Satan worshiping degenerates deciding
the future of the nation.
And I certainly don't think that they intended on illegals deciding the future of this nation
either.
Things have departed so far about women where we struck the 19th Amendment has proven to
be a failure when you look at the fact that their number one issue apparently is killing
their own children killing their own babies.
That is the one issue they are most concerned about given the fact that outside the DNC
they literally had an abortion truck and a vasectomy truck.
It's disgusting.
It's abominable.
They're bloodthirsty.
But my point is, we have departed so far from where we started as a country and we are seeing
the fruit of that now.
And it's really ugly.
Yeah, I mean, even non-land owning, uneducated men were not allowed to vote, which I'm like,
that makes sense.
Why would I want a bunch of people that don't actually live here or have an invested interest
in my geography to make decisions about what I'm going to do, what my property taxes are
going to be, what my living situation is going to be and they can leave whenever they want.
It made sense in the past.
It's like you have to be educated, you have to be land owning, you have to be a man to
vote.
And now it's like anything and everything goes.
There's no way to ever have any success.
Not even being an American at this point.
I mean they literally vote for whatever.
We at least need some type of simple aptitude test or like I think the combination of like
your taxes like a W-2 or something, the fact that you actually contributed, you paid taxes
or if you're a married woman with the family or something then that's cool too.
Because the truth is I just don't know how we're going to get women out of it but I agree.
I mean the fact that I don't know if you guys saw the clip inside the DNC but there was
a gentleman going around asking people would you rather have democracy or would you rather
have abortion?
Oh yeah I did see that.
It's like the lady after like you know about 30 seconds she's like I guess abortion.
And it's like so you'd rather be in a gulag but the fact that since the guard raped you,
you can get an abortion.
It's just like it's so insane man and so yeah like it's uncomfortable for people to admit
this but there are a large number of people that shouldn't be voting and like you just
do the tax return and the simple aptitude test.
You're taking out like 40 like you're taking out a great number of people.
There's a there is a ton of people that don't file taxes man.
So we're bringing this up.
We need to get that one post from Elijah that post number two.
Yeah he addressed this and looked at different demographics and what this country would look
like politically if they were the ones voting.
Oh I've seen some of these.
It's literally if it's only men it's literally the entire everything's red.
Everything's red if it's only men and so you know the Trump camp is I think filled with
a wide array of people.
Some more moderate than others and they may get really offended when you bring up this
whole 19th amendment thing but to me I feel like the biggest selling point for them should
be hey Trump would for sure wipe out his opponent in any election if only men were voting and
that should be enough incentive for you if you really like this guy but here we go Pastor
Shelley if you want to.
What is this one?
What does this one say?
It's kind of let me let me see if I can pull it up too because I can't read it on the
screen but.
Non-whites.
The great replacement is.
Non-whites vote.
Okay.
The great replacement of the best campaign strategy to date if only non-white people
voted wow.
Yeah and there's an ideological issue here.
Now I don't care about what color somebody is.
It's not a cosmetic thing for me.
I don't care at all.
The reason we bring this up is just to demonstrate that when you have immigrants and some of
these other folks, it's they have a different worldview and that's the problem and we see
the result of that here.
It's basically just a blue wave.
It says from a points perspective 388 to 47 and yeah I mean.
Go ahead Dominic.
So just to be honest with you guys, it's like it's so troubling and it's just so it's just
disgusting to me that this data is readily available yet people on the right just refuse
to address it.
They were like I just said the stats of 88% white people and this is college educated
not just whatever non Hispanic white people 88% in 2016 for Trump non Hispanic white
people 85%.
It's like a gain of 3% in the category is the same as like a 25% boost in any of these
other ones.
And so just the level of pandering to people that simply don't they don't like us in many
instances not because you're bad or I'm bad or I've never done anything but they're just
a tribal group of people that typically side with their own.
They feel that there's some brotherhood amongst themselves that we don't share in.
I'm speaking about African-Americans in this sense but it's the same with other races and
ethnicities as well.
If you were to look statistically they will pick their own every single different race
creed and color except for white people.
We've been shamed to the point where we can't point out obvious statistical facts that help
us save our country but we're too scared just to say hey maybe we shouldn't have some of
these people that don't look like us here.
Maybe they're not supposed to be here.
Maybe they don't share our cultural identity or our values and it's like look at this map
and then tell me that oh it's okay that they're just legal.
We need none for a long time.
Americans need to run America again.
This map makes the map.
The white guilt is real.
What's that?
The white guilt is real.
I mean look at Obama.
I think a lot of people, I know somebody that's conservative, right leaning, Christian, normal
white guy, white family and he's like, "I voted for Obama because he was black and I
just thought that that would be like, that would heal America."
That's literally what this person told me and I'm just thinking like that's insane.
That would be a reason why you would vote for somebody and yet that happened.
Again, I'm not against voting for a black person but I think that what some people don't
realize is that it's not really about the skin color.
It's not like, well, because I have dark skin, I'm just a liberal or a left-hard or a Democrat.
To me, it's clear that it's just an ideological difference.
Those who are importing do not have Christian values.
They don't have the same kind of view towards life and so who they're importing is going
to be on this other side of the equation and that's why it's such an issue.
Of course, skin color is just superfluous to ideology or anything.
It's the fact that it's tightly coupled with religious beliefs, with cultural distinctions
and so 9 out of 10 black people have a pretty similar cultural identity.
9 out of 10, it's probably 99 out of 100 Indian people probably have a cultural identity
that's similar and so it's not so much that we're picking on this particular skin color,
it's that this person has an ideological difference between us and other Americans and you know
they know, I mean if we go back to the JQ, they know that diversity weakens the nation
and causes confusion about what's going on and it's somewhat important to keep these
things weak so that they don't address serious issues, serious threats so that they're kept
at bay in a sense.
And so I think that everything that's happening to America, it really fits that first question
that we talked about, the JQ.
If they're in control of the media, of course they're not going to want to talk about the
election fraud.
When it comes to their candidates, I've kind of wondered, and maybe this is really speculative,
but I just wonder if we believe in this smoke-filled room of elitist, globalist, whatever you want
to call them, Jews, anything that's supposed to control the world, that they're all laughing
at us, that we think that Kamala or Trump even matters.
They're just like, "Look at all of these stupid people that think that the election
even matters, because no matter what, all of the cabinet's going to be the same.
All of the people in the CIA are going to be the same.
All the people that are making all these decisions and doing all these things are going to still
be the same.
They're going to still be the CEO of Facebook, and they're going to still be the CEO of
all of these telecommunication companies."
"And all the plans they have for the world are all still the same, the same exact timeline
regardless."
"Yeah, I mean just like, we kind of sometimes think like that this president's almost like
a king with dictator type authority who could really right the ship.
But even if you put the most extreme person, whatever you think that is, you put Pastor
Anderson as the president of the United States, could he even really make a big difference
is kind of a question I would have.
How much political power does the president even still have been?
If you put your number one candidate, if you just put the person you think that's the best
person to be the president right now, Ron Paul or whoever, how much difference would
that even make?
It seems like they would get stymied.
Everything that they would try to implement would be blocked in some way via the Senate.
Would you just be JFK'd?
I mean, let's just be honest, would you not be JFK'd like in six months?
They would block all legislation.
They would impeach.
They would assassinate.
There's a lot of different ways that they can block a president from actually achieving
his goals.
I mean, the fall of the Roman Empire, they pretty much describe it where the secret guard
of the Caesar, they were the ones who were choosing the president towards the end, or
not the president, but the Caesar of the Roman Empire towards the end, where they would put
in whoever they wanted.
They would kill whoever they wanted.
They would make bets on it.
They would joke and just put somebody in, because it was all so corrupt and just so
infiltrated that it was really just a mob rule towards the end of the Roman Empire.
Have you ever heard of someone by the name of Pastor Joel Webber, I believe his name
is?
No, I don't know who that is.
Okay.
So, here, forgive me.
I'm going to just make sure this is his actual name.
Isn't it Webin?
Yeah, it's Webin, I believe, actually.
Hold on.
Yeah.
He looks familiar now.
Do you wear glasses, or do you see a picture of him?
I've heard of him.
I know that you're...
Yes.
Joel Webin is his name with glasses.
So, he's got a clip.
It's funny, because it was actually Media Matters, or one of those media watch dogs,
where I saw it, which is honestly where I find some great clips I agree with, funny
enough.
But he was saying, and I'll send you this clip after we're done.
He was saying that in order for democracy to work, you have to have a moral society
that practices good will, that practices essentially Christian values.
And when a democracy loses that, you basically just have a state of chaos and you have a
state where men ultimately need to be led.
So he made a statement that was captured by Media Matters and essentially said that
the United States needs a modern day Caesar, such a highly popular populist leader, to come in.
Basically, and this is his words, not mine, basically he was discussing like suspending
the constitution, having an absolute populist leader for a period of 10 to 20 years, and
then going back to the constitutional republic once we are back into a state where our society
and our citizenry is normal.
So Germany 2.0.
What's that?
Germany 2.0.
Well, I mean, it's like, well, no, because they had a plan to go back.
So and also, you know, this guy's like a, like, this is a man of God.
He's not coming in any evil kind of way.
Hitler said he was going to give power back after the Reichstag fires and all that, and
after he kind of dealt with the issues.
Well, look, it's not, I'm not necessarily saying that I support that, but I think that
we're all acknowledging that we're kind of, it's up for debate how fast this trajectory
is actually going, but the trajectory remains the same.
It seems like this nation is headed towards certain downfall, man.
And so I just think when, I do actually think that if people, like you don't leave a room
full of children unattended because you know they're going to mess up the house, they're
going to hurt themselves, in the United States of America has essentially become a room full
of children acting aimlessly with no adults.
And I just feel like the point that Joel Webin made, it did make a lot of sense, how far
fetched and improbable, however that may be, it still was an interesting point.
And the further that we degrade and the further that society, the worse that it gets, the
more realistic that options and ideas like that becomes a little bit more palatable for
people, in my opinion.
I think it's going to happen.
It's not a question of should that happen, it will happen.
Because the thing is, is at any point someone's going to rule.
There's all these people vying for power.
There's all these people that want to be in control.
And if, you know, like I like this quote that's usually put out there, it's like the only
thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
And it's kind of like if I just put a bunch of money out in the middle of the street,
someone's going to take it.
Like either A, I'm going to stand there and stop people from taking it or I'm just going
to let people take it.
But someone's going to take the money.
And so it's like America is a stockpile of resources, cash, land, technology, wealth.
Someone wants that.
In fact, everyone wants that.
So someone is going to take charge and take rule.
If it's not an uprising of a leader to kind of restore things, then it's going to be a
communist dictatorship.
And we're basically just four years into the Bolshevik revolution at this point.
And we're basically just staring down the barrel of Joseph Stalin or someone coming
in and just basically slaughtering 60 million, 100 million people until there's so much incompetence
that we literally get conquered by a foreign nation.
But to me, there's no real question of is this like a viable option, is this going to
happen like we are too weak as a country and as a nation and we're too diverse as a populace
that something will happen.
You know, it cannot continue this way with this much wealth, this many resources.
Now again, it's not certain what's going to happen.
You have things like the Spanish Civil War, which people could study and look.
America is really following in the same direction as that.
The Spanish Civil War, they became very leftist, the government was corrupt.
But then what the government did is they killed several priests and they killed a few different
military leaders and it caused a literal civil war.
And at that point, the right basically got some foreign aid, got some foreign help, and
they ended up ultimately prevailing against the leftists and liberals and kind of weeded
them out of society.
But there wasn't going to not be conflict.
Now you look at Russia, they were kind of the opposite with the Bolshevik Revolution.
You have the Jews getting caught, Tsar Nicholas II doesn't kill them.
He then allows them to come back even stronger and they take his whole family out, execute
them, overthrow the government.
Then there's a patriotic uprising, civil war.
The Jewish rebellion wins and they literally slaughter all the patriots and then they take
control of the government and then they just slaughter the citizens for a very long extended
period of time.
And that's the Communist Russia that we love so much and sided with in World War II.
And after World War II, Communist Russia took over most of Eastern Europe and also brought
the Iron Curtain and the Iron Dome and just there was a blockade of information and it's
like North Korea style, just like horrible atrocities that are happening.
I mean everybody should read The Bridge to Andal, great book on this particular topic
about what's happening to the people in that area.
And you know, I think that we are going to see one of two options at some point.
We're going to see either a North Korea complete Bolshevik revolution communist style take
over America or we're going to see a Spanish civil war.
But in both of those cases, there wasn't many civil war.
There was a patriotic uprising that was squashed.
And I do think that what the left wants is they don't want to go down the civil war
route.
I think that they're afraid of that because they suck and they don't have guns and triggers
scare them.
And so they need to keep us all weak and we can't form any militias or anything.
What keeps a nation state strong is ideological continuity and strong militias.
And right now we don't have either of those.
And as long as they can keep those two things just basically from happening, then they can
conquer our nation with a complete communist takeover and there won't be much of an uprising
to even quell.
And that's at least my opinion.
Obviously, you know, people could have a more optimistic view.
But I feel like conflict is inevitable.
I mean, you know, apart from everybody that's left having heck in the COVID shot just dies
tomorrow, you know, from sads or something, like, I just feel like conflict is brewing
and it's inevitable.
I mean, what do you think about this, Ben?
Well, if there is conflict, you brought up the left not wanting any part of it, given
the fact that they're limp-wristed pencil necks who are afraid of guns and afraid of
any kind of physical warfare.
I do agree, it does seem like we're headed that direction.
The chasm between normal people and freaks in this country continues to grow larger.
I'm curious, Dominic, I mean, we gave you a lot there to work with.
Do you have any response to what Pastor was talking about and just this idea that we are
headed down the road of potential civil war and some kind of major conflict going on within
the United States because there really does seem to be two different Americas living in
the one America.
So, yeah, I have quite a bit to say about it, actually.
So the first thing is that I believe that they let January 6th get as bad as it did
as far as not having the National Guard or not having more Capitol Police.
They did that with the specific intention of quelling future rebellious spirit or any
attempts to protest as far as any conservative causes.
I mean, if you notice, people are afraid to even, let's say that there was a major, extremely
substantial reason to protest in this country right now.
If they did kill Donald Trump or something, maybe you would see some type of protest if
we could pin it on someone particularly, whatever the situation might be.
Senators are so afraid of even, like you were speaking about militias, get out of town.
They're way too afraid to do any of that stuff now.
Because anybody that was organizing before that was clearly, you know, had right wing
political ideologies, they're persecuted, they're put on lists, they can't fly, you
know, Enrique Tarreo is getting 22 years when he's not even at the place.
It's like, they're very purposefully doing this intense political targeting against conservatives
to make sure that that rebellious spirit, which kind of lies underneath a lot of people,
is quelled.
And that's also the reason why they push, you know, like we talk about how Jews love
multiculturalism so much because they're afraid of strong nationalistic societies because
they don't do well there, especially if that society is Christian.
And they do all these things because they know that it really throws a bucket of water
on people's desire to organize and to protest for legitimate, you know, legitimate reasons
in a lawful manner.
So I think that we're dealing with an awfully apathetic society right now.
And I think that more than likely, instead of you seeing a civil war, you would see like
the quote unquote deep state, they would start like a form of digital slavery.
Like you hear about social credit scores and things like that.
I think that they would start, you know, limiting your travel, limiting your ability to spend
money, just basically making it impossible for you to live.
If there were to be a case where people were rising up and people have had enough of this
BS, I think that they, you know, when you take away people's ability to live or provide
for their family, they get scared and typically they acquiesce.
I think they'll use every financial measure possible to stop any physical violence.
But I do definitely think that those sentiments will be there and I think as long, you know,
the longer it goes on, these issues that are really, really destroying our country, they're
not addressed or they're cast aside as the people that are bringing them up are crazy.
You know, I do think that something will happen.
I don't know exactly what it will be, but I think they're sort of waiting to bring
on this next layer of the security state of crazy control by, you know, using AI and technology.
And I think that that would be the event that they brought those things about with.
Yeah.
And, you know, everything's really fragile in my mind because, you know, I've seen at
least for me in our church just in crazy amounts of censorship and attack.
And I feel like we're not even far from just a real 1984 world because if you eliminated
just like a handful of people as far as you got rid of Infowars, you get rid of X, you
get rid of Gab and Rumble.
Those are the four I think.
If you get rid of those, I think that we all become just completely blind to what's really
happening in the world.
Like we would all kind of almost have no idea what's really going on.
I know there's a few things like Truth and Telegram and stuff and I'm not trying to discount
them but I'm just saying like in general I think that the world almost goes dark at that
point and it's like an information just blackout and that any narrative could fly at that point
and it would be a really precarious situation.
And I mean I've seen you know for myself obviously we've been kicked off on everything, lost
all kinds of bank accounts, can't do credit card processing, can't do anything and you
know label the terrorists by every organization, Facebook, you know everything.
And like I could see things that are really extreme that people don't believe happening
in our country and I don't want to give the enemy the playbook but I personally believe
in six months if they wanted they could disarm the United States of America without even
hurting anybody or without any kind of bloodshed.
And you know I'm kind of at the point that I think that things are just so fragile and
I could see being very disenfranchised with the election which I kind of preach, I kind
of like try to tell people like it's all rigged and it's fake anyways because I love to pay
attention to it and I find it fascinating, I love talking about it but like I want people
to have their hope and spiritual things and in the Bible and like realizing like there's
still things I can do that can make an impact to the people around me in my life whereas
you know with this kind of stuff sometimes I get really blackpilled when I think about
how infiltrated our government is, the political lobbying, APAC, the control that they have,
just the election cycle, the processes and even for me personally like while Trump I
would inside probably be a little relieved and feel good that he was elected at the same
time he's just not he's just not the candidate I really want though like I'm just saying
like he's not the president I want I would want somebody a lot different if I could you
know truly expressed something like I could be really excited about someone like Ron Paul
or I could be really excited about some other politicians and you know Trump is just kind
of like it's like I feel like I dodged a bullet it grazed my ear but I don't feel like it's
necessarily like a win I mean if Trump wins what are your emotions gonna be Ben would
you feel excited relieved you don't care like what would be kind of your thought process
you think I would think I would be relieved and I would be excited to see the left lose
their minds so I'm motivated by hatred for left and so I would be excited I'm being honest
with you I would be excited simply because their pain brings a smile to my face so that's
all I just really like justice though it's not that we just love pain yeah you just love
justice and you don't like the hypocrisy you don't like people going unchecked just doing
evil you like equity like justice and it brings joy to see justice restored even on any level
well it's people getting what they deserve like think about this people rejoice at a
convicted felon getting convicted right like but if you think about it it's kind of a negative
event right this person just got doomed by the justice system for what his actions are
but you're like excited because you're thinking like yay justice was served right like when
obama i'm not sorry obama oj they're all they all look like whenever oj was uh you
know had the non-guilty plea or whatever you're not you know basically he got off a lot of
people were upset with that like that hurt a lot of people's feelings and you could see
like some people would be like i'm glad that justice was served if he had been found guilty
you know the guilty verdict made them feel good about that particular decision and i
almost like that's how it is like if trump got elected it's like a you know finally we
can have a little bit of sanity you know or maybe these radical extremists aren't going
to have their way as much and is that kind of what you're i'm trying to channel your
thoughts here but i mean these are people that are grooming children these are people
that are giving children disgusting filth abominable pornography in the school system
today i mean these are people that they're advocating for drag pedophile hour defiling
young minds across the country i'm a father of three children that kind of thing makes
my blood boil and if that is the group that is advocating for it and they lose of course
it's going to bring a smile to my face if that's the group advocating for this garbage
and they're all over the streets freaking out and losing their mind because donald trump
is president and they cry themselves to sleep on election night of course it's going to
bring a smile to my face because in my mind they're contributing to the destruction of
america the destruction of christian culture and to the destruction of the nuclear family
unit yeah can you pull up i want to pull up a bible verse on this because i like this
point and you know the bible brings these things up quite a bit i don't know is that
maybe while you do that wrong brow i want to hear dominic i can pull it up let's hear
dominic's take real quick if you want to interject yeah go for it so just on if how i how i'll
feel if trump wins i mean look i think that we're on a trajectory that's not good no matter
what but i think he at least buys us some time and there's one thing that i like about
donald trump over everything else and that's that the guy has a tremendous sense of pride
and i feel like that gives him something that i like to call fu energy so like let's just
say that there's a contentious call with benjamin netanyahu and netanyahu says something that's
just so egregious and so disrespectful and so like we own you that trump even though
every advisor and every other common indicator would tell you he would go one way he just
every once in a while seems to have that fu energy so i do have a little bit of faith
that when it comes to keeping us from escalating war with iran or it comes to you know at least
putting a bit of a stopgap on this like crazy lgbtbs man like i just think deep down inside
he's against it and now that he doesn't have to run for re-election after this there's
a small chance that he gets in and he just is like well we're gonna go balls to the wall
and we're gonna give it everything we got so of course we're thinking guys but there
is a chance because you know if she gets in it's just curtains man like we're all in trouble
so there's at least a chance and i and i like to have a little hope you know from a foreign
policy perspective i think it would be great to have someone in there who isn't so adversarial
with russia with regard to having you know a good working relationship with russia doesn't
beat the war drums with them and push a bunch of crazy theories about how awful they are
and how we need to fight them militarily and things of that nature at least by proxy war
so i think that'd be good and if trump can bring that i would appreciate it i would appreciate
america first from a foreign policy perspective and maybe you know he talks a big game about
loving to strike deals he likes to strike deals and if he could come up with some kind
of deal to solve the israeli conflict or at least maybe bring some peace to the middle
east for a few years or if he's able to solve the deal or should say the conflict going
on there with the ukraine and russia i think all of that is on the table and if he's willing
to actually fulfill the promise of you know not starting any new wars and focusing on
domestic policy and not playing nation builder like the neocon playbook calls for i think
that would be great too yeah i mean i would i would love to see some actual vengeance
and that was the bible verses i wanted to bring up so if trump gets in there there's
a chance with kamala there's none but the bible does say in psalm 58 verse 10 the righteous
shall rejoice when he seeeth the vengeance he shall wash his feet in the blood of the
wicked so the man shall say verily there is a reward for the righteous verily he is a
god that judgeth in the earth the bible also says in proverbs chapter 11 verse 10 it says
when he goeth well with the righteous the city rejoiceth and when the wicked perish
there is a shouting it also says in proverbs 29 verse 2 when the righteous are an authority
the people rejoice but when the wicked beareth rule the people mourn and I think that that
kind of sums up the idea that's being presented here in the sense that you know people are
going to be mourning if Kamala Harris is in office I mean that's going to be awful and
we get that some people be crying when Trump gets in office but you know they're evil and
Satanic so it doesn't really bother me it'd be nice to see entertaining I think it's great
yeah and they're not going to suffer any bad consequences they're just there they have
an idea of this guy that's much worse than what he actually really even equates to so
yeah they'll be sad and yeah they'll complain the media let's be honest their lives were
all fine if anything they'll probably earn a little you know they'll keep a little more
their paycheck and and whatever else but like like you were saying and like we all agree
I think it he at least gives us a chance and we're all against this world that's sinking
into degeneracy and evil in so many different ways and I know he's not perfect there's many
things about him that I flat out don't like but and I just hate to say it when you only
have a binary option you just really only you know you only have one choice so I I'll
take him in this and I just hope that we put and assert a great deal of political pressure
on him to move him to the right and to set our country on a better path for the next
10-20 years realistically within his four probably not and probably not tons gonna happen
but maybe he you know the Trumpism without Trump and significantly more Christian values
behind it could actually occur yeah I mean I I think if Trump gets elected was just sad
to say but I wouldn't be surprised if abortions went up like there's more abortions in his
presidency than we've even had in the past that's that's what's crazy they act like
he's so pro like so anti-abortion it's so difficult but most of these people are going
to still do that and it wouldn't even surprise me if they unfortunately went up but I would
like to see if he did get elected and a lot of Christian leaders and people on the right
put a lot of pressure on him if we could make a difference which would be interesting if
he wins you also got to wonder like is he not going to win a lot of down ticket you
know seats as well and could we have a Republican majority and you know what would that look
like would they ever accomplish anything or are they just going to have another meeting
and grab another council to investigate and then nothing happens or you know I mean some
of these Republicans I like some of their talking points but then it just doesn't seem
like much happens you know Jim Jordan said things that I like but it doesn't seem like
a lot's happened there there's you know Matt Gaetz has said some things that are pretty
good there's a couple other guys there's another guy I'm trying to think of like really tall
skinny guy what's that guy's name do you know what I'm talking about it's like a senator
Josh Hawley that's who was Josh Hawley says a lot of things yeah that I like but I don't
feel like Thomas Massey I love Thomas Massey he talked about Jewish influence on our politicians
yeah man at some point I want to talk about and I know it's too late but at some point
I would like to talk about what maybe or maybe not did happen to his wife I feel like that's
a very weird story it is a weird story out of respect we all love and we don't want to
talk about it but it's a little it's a little funky yeah it's a coincidence there's a lot
of coincidence like when Larry Silverstein said that he was just really lucky that he
took out a insurance policy on the World Trade Center six months before 9/11 and had a doctor's
appointment on 9/11 yeah it was really lucky he's just really lucky there was a doctor's
appointment and he was really lucky at Terrace insurance and you know he just he's a lucky
guy and so no Dominic the timing of that is eerie I think to say the least it is it is
creepy it you know when you think about when she died it it really makes you wonder did
his remarks on the Jewish influence on our political class perhaps lead to that I don't
know I think it's a it's a valid question to ask though well I've really enjoyed this
conversation it's kind of refreshing to talk to some people that are willing to address
some of these more controversial things some people it doesn't seem like they're kind
of afraid of losing all their influence and their their money and sponsorships and everything
we didn't run you off Dominic yeah I know I didn't scare you yeah just tell the truth
and you try to act like a nice person you know they can smear all they want but I know
deep deep down I'm fine invite to address a disproportionate amount of power by a group
of people whatever well you know what deal with it guys maybe don't wield it so obviously
and we won't talk about it as much you know right yeah I mean I've already been burned
so like apart from them pretty much just like pulling a Trump on me or JFK like there's
not there's not a lot that they're going to be able to do to me much anymore so you
know I don't really care to not talk about it apart from I mean I did play their game
I think I tried like I tried to be on YouTube and not talk about it and just you know only
keep the like YouTube friendly stuff over there but it still didn't work I mean we
had an episode where we talked about different views of like creation and we
got new to but not completely benign video theological it was like we were
arguing about craters on the moon and that was the episode that got us new but
we get like we didn't you then like but then they leave Candace on there and I
know that we'd message about that earlier and I know we were kind of time
but they curiously keep Candace on there though and it's like hey well what's the
deal guys like YouTube wanted to I know you wanted to talk about a humble God
bless Chris at rumble seriously oh yeah regardless of you know visa trying
Candace is now a Catholic though right isn't she she kind of converted or
something that's what I see that's what I saw um what do you know as far as all
her stuff look if you're gonna talk about controversial stuff you've got to
be accurate so when you're saying oh the Russian Revolution in 1880 and Stalin's
Jewish and all this other stuff you better be on the nose and that's a
theory that of why they're actually letting her stay on YouTube because it's
actually serving as a means to kind of muddy the water and discredit people that
have similar views because she's spouting like literally false information
so I appreciate her I appreciate someone that's got that big of a platform
there that's saying those talking points I do realize the amount of pressure
that's on you if if you know you have that large of an audience but you gotta
at least be right I mean I'm not against I'm not against Candace personally or
anything but I let's play this one clip it's only a few seconds and I know we're
a little over our time window but but oh dude you're good you I just was it's
it's this is what frustrates me about someone that's spouting all this stuff
because it makes me think of you if yay or Kanye or whatever you want to call him
where he's kind of like crazy and it's like this is the only person that's
allowed to be on all the platforms talking about the Jewish you because they
they want you to think like if you think there's some kind of an influence of
Jewish power in America then you're also the craziest weirdest person and full
bodysuit yeah and puts a bottle who and a net that's like we are like that was
one of the biggest shows ever with Kanye West on Alex Jones I mean I don't even
know how many views that got but that was probably one of the biggest shows
ever and it just made people that believe in the jq look like freaks but
let's play a few seconds of this Candace clip and I want to talk about it as well
you guys imagine being married to me and my poor husband he rolls over he's like
what are you reading and I feel like a regular wife says something I don't know
maybe a love series nor Roberts sweeping her away me on the other hand he rolled
over he asked me and I said I'm reading a flat-earth theory and it dawned into an
entire conversation he's like why are you why are you reading a flat-earth
theory and I'm like because somebody messaged me on Manect about it and they
included some links and I'm just reading them I don't know I'm just an
interested person no matter what if there's a bunch of people that believe
something I now want to know what it is that they believe all right you pushed
me cut it I mean this is this is what I don't like about this for sure number
one she doesn't put it take a position and I don't know that she does or not on
this issue but I'm like the flat-earth theory is like one of the dumbest things
in the world and I'm constantly talking about how dumb I think that it is but
it's crazy to me how this fits perfectly with this idea of like well I was just
reading stuff because then it's like oh I guess all the stuff you're reading
about the Jews or the Russians or all this other stuff it we can just chalk it
up as it's just another flat earth reality denial crazy person like you
know why does she who even convinced her to make this video because I'm just
thinking like this doesn't win you over on anybody's side even the flat-earthers
are like well you didn't say it was real and then all the people that like have a
brain in their head are like what are you even talking about and it's like she
brings this up she brings up the Franken stuff which is totally just meant to
throw people off she's bringing up dinosaurs she's look I don't like her
opinion on dinosaurs I don't even know she said that they're not real or
whatever she said that she doesn't think dinosaurs are real which I have
never really looked into it so I'm not gonna say one thing or another but the
point is she's saying the most far-fetched stuff and you would think
I'm not saying that she's controlled off I don't think she's that I think she
just might be really misinformed and really trying to get a large audience by
discussing controversial stuff cuz she's got a new show but I'm not sure if she
doesn't realize like dude if you're gonna talk about Jewish power or
influence don't talk about dinosaurs not being real the next day or don't talk
about flat earth the next day like talk about stuff that makes you sound like a
reputable normal journalist or at the very least keep it to like how your
debate with Rabbi Barclay was where she just destroyed that guy made him look
like such a total supremacist it was crazy and it was so effective and it
ultimately led to her probably being kicked off of the Daily Wire in short
order but it's like please don't don't bring in this stupid stuff for lack of a
better term because you're you're watering down and you're causing people
to deny and think that you're crazy when you were just touching on a critically
important and super under discussed topic for the last like 60 years you
know you're in one of the most major people talking about this don't blow it
girl and so yeah before you bring something up alone for now before you
bring something up you should research both sides of course and and it's like
how could anybody reasonably think that you're a critical thinker and a
truth-seeker when you're just you're just nonchalantly just saying like I'm
just reading all this stuff about the flat earth man it's just like it just it
kind of goes to show like maybe she's not the researcher that we really think
she is and and maybe she's just throwing stuff out there and it I hate that it
discredits anything that she says to legitimate people because she has said
some things that I agree with and that I like and you know I'm not against Candace
as a person obviously I disagree with her on ideological things I'm not a
Catholic I'm a Baptist but at the end of the day like I at least can appreciate
people that are trying to be seeking the truth and trying to uncover some real
serious issues and when I see this kind of stuff it makes me disappointed like
another person that's really prominent in this arena is Stu Peters and I like
Stu Peters I don't have anything against him he said a lot of good things but he
brings up the flatter thing and I'm just like man I just wish you didn't
because then I would like probably more more encouraged to support some of the
things you say but I'm like what can we have somebody that is out there in the
political arena saying hey Jews have too much empower too much power and
influence and they're not a flat-earther I'm just like can we have one because I
just keep seeing this and it just it really makes me mad I mean that's the
only reason I even do this is I just I feel like nobody represents like
common-sense positions and then has like some reasonable like ideological
background and I'm like I just don't want there to be just this void of
common-sense people that even have I 100% agree and let's just be honest
people hop on the newest or the most of like farfetched or out there conspiracy
theory because you know sometimes there's niche audiences for it sometimes
it pulls a lot of views but it's true if the further that you go away from what
people know is common knowledge or people you know commonly accept to be
true the harder it is to really push it home on other topics so like I just
would issue a word of caution for anyone that is gonna if you care about actually
addressing institutionalized Jewish power and influence over the United
States please be conscientious of being a little bit more measured in some of
the other things you talk about because I promise you that the going into these
things that are half truths or that are just not true at all they discredit the
main things and then no matter how great or how accurate you were about
everything else just a couple pieces of misinformation or really stupid you know
clips and it really hurts your credibility so you know the old saying
Rome wasn't built in the day but it burnt down and won don't do it Candace
you know and and also I really appreciate Stu's had me on a show a
few times not gonna hate I know Stu's got some wild views but we love them we
appreciate them but I do know what you're saying for sure well here's the
thing and some people don't maybe get my viewpoint like I strongly disagree with
a lot of people on on certain issues but that doesn't mean like like I hate the
person or wouldn't even have a conversation or wouldn't be friendly or
wouldn't want to do stuff with them like the things that I disagree with on them
I want to have conversations with them about and change their mind like my goal
is to win people over on the issues that I feel strongly about like even like
someone put in the comments like you should be against Candace Owens and I'm
like sure there are some serious issues that I have with Candace like obviously I
want women to be you know in the home raising children you know let the man be
the provider and I think that Candace should do that obviously I don't want
Candace to be a Catholic I'm a Baptist I believe everybody should be a Baptist
obviously or shows the Baptist bias I'm not gonna hide that but that doesn't
mean I won't talk to people that are not Baptist because frankly speaking I don't
want to be an echo chamber I want to talk to other people and I want to win
them over and I want to discuss things and not have strawman argument what I
don't like is constantly bringing up you know this is what Catholics think and
this is what Jews think and this is what other people they in like I don't have a
real example I'm just making stuff up like this isn't like I like talk to real
people with real opinions and and know what they really think because I I
believe that it helps us have a better idea of where people are coming from you
know their their perspectives I mean I've talked with a lot of people that I
thought wrongly about and then actually having the conversation discussing
issues I've realized okay this person isn't as bad as maybe I'm making them
out to be in my head or something they're not this evil person they're
just they're just wrong about some issues or I had some bad you know
prejudices and maybe if I come alongside them and show them the love of Christ I
can win them over a little bit and you know to me being out in the public arena
you know the Apostle Paul even said in tough sometimes like he wasn't
necessarily going around ripping on all of the pagan idols because he was just
trying to win people over he wasn't going out there preaching his you know
dying of the Ephesians now obviously in his church services and stuff he's
having those conversations he's preaching the truth but you know in the
public arena I think there's a case to be made to make some discretion and try
to be friendly and you know that's that's goal of the show the goal of show
is not to just let's see how many Baptists we can have on the show it's
let's let's reach out to all kinds of different people and have you know the
uncomfortable conversations let's talk about issues let's disagree let's try to
change each other's minds you know like to me I like open discourse I like free
speech you know I hate the censorship you know I mean Ben don't you like at
least discussing with somebody that's different than you don't you have some
enjoyment of that as opposed to just like I agree I agree yep same opinion
same opinion totally agree like don't you like that you know hey I have a
different opinion let's let's see like where we're at well it exposes in my
mind it exposes maybe some areas where I could do a little bit more study it
helps keep me sharp as well when I'm challenged on my ideas and some of the
things that I believe but additionally the fact that you and I support for and
our guest as well that we all support free speech what that demonstrates is
that we're confident in what we believe the left knows inherently that their
ideas suck and so that's the lie they want to deplatform you that's why they
want to prevent you from having a voice because they have no confidence in
their ability to operate within the arena of a structured debate or
discussion whereas on our side we're willing to have the conversation and we
want to have the conversation because because we have an inherent confidence
in our worldview and we don't mind as a result our worldview getting tested and
it's consistent we don't redefine our terms well you know this is this has
been a great conversation I think we could keep having it maybe we have a
round two because I've really enjoyed getting to talk about these things and
I'm sure there's other topics that we can even explore I really really enjoy
you guys have me on man I love the conversation and honestly so I'm
Catholic I'm gonna be real with you I just don't really I've never really
looked a great deal into other denominations and unless it involves like
dispensationalism or like the Schofield Bible and like or how it relates to
Israel or like people's allegiance to Jews and such these days I've never
really looked into it but like at some point you know sometimes people just
need to learn a little bit so I would definitely be open to learning a little
bit more about baptism I'm a huge fan of Pastor Anderson marching to Zion is an
unbelievable film everybody needs to go out there and watch it it's on YouTube
surprisingly it's on YouTube but yeah when I saw that you were associated
with him and you were associated with some other people that I'm quite fond of
oh man I really enjoyed the conversation I'm thankful you guys had me on and any
other topics or I'm in all kinds of cool stuff so I think we could talk about a
lot of entertaining and interesting things so thanks again guys seriously
yeah you know we can throw you some other films we made a film called the
Preserved Bible that you know we have pastor Anderson in it talks about the
history of the Bible it may not be the most pro-catholic film ever made I'll
just be honest with you but you know I obviously everybody has their their
viewpoint and I would encourage you to check that out I can send you some links
to some of those things too but you know I I like Catholic people I'm just you
know that's not my ideological agreement so here's here's the thing though a lot
of Catholic people that I've met you know in in real life they have a lot of
similar values I remember McAllister's they've taken this away and it hurts my
heart but McAllister's used to do this thing where we eat inside it's a one
dollar meal for your kids so the kids meals are one dollar and so I ate there
for after church like all the time and there's all these there's like these
traditional conservative Catholics that would come in there too and we are all
sitting here with our like six seven eight kids or whatever because it's like
I mean it's the deal of the century obviously we probably ruined it for
everybody else because they like up the price now and everything like that but I
remember we did especially in Fort Worth we would eat there and there's this one
Catholic family and they were always there and again you know a lot of
conservative Catholics they're they're pro having lots of children and
conservative and they you know want a lot of the similar values but at the
end of the day you know to me going to heaven is the most important thing and
you know I believe in salvation by faith alone and I want people to you know hear
that truth because that to me is the ultimate red pill but we greatly
appreciate you being on the show Dominic great guest great conversation love to
have you on again and if we can work together I know we know a lot of some of
the same people so hopefully we can connect again at some point I've got a
little show coming up too so if you guys wouldn't mind I'd love to have you on as
well and yeah well I'll definitely talk to Owen we got to get you on Infowars
and we'll uh I like you guys man you guys are cool you guys get it there's a
lot of people that love to lie in this you know in this field so whenever I
meet some guys that I can tell have an authentic message they mean what they
say and they're pushing for the betterment of society it's always
nothing but a pleasure so seriously guys thank you so much
yeah thanks again and that's pretty much gonna do it for us here on the
Baptist Bias this evening Ben give us some final thoughts here no I mean I
think we had a robust discussion tonight and we covered a lot of different
topics the election Trump and you notice we focused mostly on Trump rather than
Kamala because I think it's obvious to anyone with working eyes and ears and
brain that Kamala Harris is a dumb whore so to see us focus more on Trump well
that was because of the fact that we're really just trying to really kind of
just talk about where he's going wrong where his campaign can improve and apply
some pressure because there's potential for some change there but overall really
enjoyed the discussion and appreciated the opportunity to contribute where I
did and really liked some of the things that our guests said and and pastor
Shelley what you were talking about as well overall this is a very important
stream tonight because people need to keep a level head about what is to come
and the disservice that some political personalities are doing to their
audience by not mentioning the fact that the election is rigged and not mentioning
the fact that not much has changed since 2020 is I think they may be giving
people a false hope we want people to have measured expectations going into
November and beyond as well and recognize that true change ultimately
and this is our message true change ultimately emanates from the Lord Jesus
Christ and before I before I finish so plug our guests for next week we're
having the Wild Brothers on and so I think it's gonna be a really interesting
completely different style show we have all kinds of different shows I mean
we're all over the map tell us a little bit about next week's show so the Wild
Brothers they have their own YouTube channel and they're basically just big
on spending time in the outdoors being active you know not sitting in front of
the television set all the time not just being addicted to video games and being
super sedentary that's their message is they want people to be active they're
Christians and they really enjoy the outdoors and then survival things and
stuff like that so next week we'll be talking to them about that subject and
their ministry and what they're doing with their YouTube channel some of their
content overall they want people to enjoy God's creation in the outdoors
that's their their big-time message I think that sounds like a really
interesting episode we had the raw egg nationalist on as a special episode this
week so if you missed it because we're normally on Tuesdays 8 p.m. but we had a
special episode raw egg nationalist great guest great show somebody should follow
on Twitter and he talks a lot about just health and fitness and I was really
enjoyed the conversation really enjoyed the conversation tonight and looking
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Baptist bias comm like the Stanley Cup Dominic like the Stanley Cup just wanted
to say that oh yeah that's Florida Panthers did they win they won the
Stanley Cup that's your team isn't my team oh man there's it's just it's a
shame the stars couldn't get into the playoffs we would have an epic showdown
you and me right maybe next year I told my wife I said the world is burning down
around us things are getting worse by the second but at least my Florida
Panthers are Stanley Cup champions oh man we need we need some Dallas Stars
magic there so they're like one of the only Dallas teams well the Rangers won
so you know I guess maybe maybe we can get the Stanley Cup back okay but that's
gonna pretty much do it for us on the Baptist bias thanks for tuning in live
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