WEBVTT 00:00:00.320 --> 00:10:39.500 "My soul created, up to the dust, quickened out into the sky" 00:10:39.500 --> 00:10:47.340 are being stabbed, shot at, ragged, trans-awareness events are happening across the country, human 00:10:47.340 --> 00:10:54.260 trafficking is skyrocketing as a result of non-existent border policies, abortion is 00:10:54.260 --> 00:11:01.870 still widespread, people are being shot, stabbed, punched and beaten to death all over the country, 00:11:01.870 --> 00:11:08.960 conservatives are being censored, shadow-banned, cancelled and defunded, American taxpayers 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:16.120 are experiencing unprecedented inflation to fund endless foreign wars. 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:21.610 As if all that wasn't enough, the Fed is jacking up interest rates, causing a meal as simple 00:11:21.610 --> 00:11:27.020 as burger and fries to cost 25 bucks. 00:11:27.020 --> 00:11:35.070 Don't worry, the mighty GOP is here to save the day with their bipartisan Anti-Semitism 00:11:35.070 --> 00:11:37.080 Awareness Act. 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:42.630 Because you see, of all the issues plaguing America, the top priority of the Republican 00:11:42.630 --> 00:11:45.190 Party is Jews. 00:11:45.190 --> 00:11:50.870 Specifically, the House bill proposed to define anti-Semitism. 00:11:50.870 --> 00:11:56.960 Because somewhere, an anti-Semite almost swerved in the direction of a Jew. 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:58.060 No, seriously. 00:11:58.060 --> 00:12:03.990 It actually happened, and this type of malice hasn't been displayed since 1940s Germany. 00:12:03.990 --> 00:12:11.730 In fact, the ADL just released information saying there's been six million anti-Semitic 00:12:11.730 --> 00:12:13.960 attacks in the recent year. 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:21.640 The only way to save America is to ban the phrase "the Jews killed Jesus." 00:12:21.640 --> 00:12:22.570 That'll curb inflation. 00:12:22.570 --> 00:12:26.800 You have to wonder, what else could this bill lead to? 00:12:26.800 --> 00:12:29.440 What will be the domino effect? 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:34.990 Perhaps a mandatory bowing of the knee to the Israeli flag in all public schools. 00:12:34.990 --> 00:12:40.790 The complete redaction of passages critical of the Jews in newly published SPLC endorsed 00:12:40.790 --> 00:12:41.900 Bibles. 00:12:41.900 --> 00:12:49.060 The imprisonment of dissidents who teach dangerous doctrines like replacement theology or salvation 00:12:49.060 --> 00:12:51.710 by faith in Jesus Christ alone. 00:12:51.710 --> 00:12:56.090 Billions of dollars spent as direct aid to Israel. 00:12:56.090 --> 00:12:58.550 Actually, I don't know how to think about it. 00:12:58.550 --> 00:13:02.440 It's been happening since World War II. 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:04.240 Let's see. 00:13:04.240 --> 00:13:08.130 Chuckie Schumer's face on a newly designed hundred dollar bill. 00:13:08.130 --> 00:13:14.710 Forcing all Americans to personally bow and worship every Jew they come in contact with. 00:13:14.710 --> 00:13:19.170 Maybe they'll ask us even to build better sewer systems in New York. 00:13:19.170 --> 00:13:24.970 It would be rabidly anti-Semitic after all to not afford Jews a decent walkway in those 00:13:24.970 --> 00:13:26.460 tunnels. 00:13:26.460 --> 00:13:28.770 You say, that's far-fetched. 00:13:28.770 --> 00:13:32.010 That's just a conspiracy theory, honestly. 00:13:32.010 --> 00:13:36.360 Only hateful bigots who wear tinfoil hats are nervous about all this. 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:39.260 Perhaps you've been listening to too much Alex Jones. 00:13:39.260 --> 00:13:44.020 Hey, you're worried about a coming one-world government. 00:13:44.020 --> 00:13:47.220 I say, is it not already here? 00:13:47.220 --> 00:13:50.690 Perhaps it's time for you to wake up and get the Baptist Bias. 00:13:50.690 --> 00:14:12.980 Thanks, everybody, for joining us for the Baptist Bias. 00:14:12.980 --> 00:14:15.460 I'm your host, Pastor Shelley. 00:14:15.460 --> 00:14:18.180 This could be our last broadcast ever, Ben. 00:14:18.180 --> 00:14:19.610 What do you think? 00:14:19.610 --> 00:14:25.540 If we say that every week, every single broadcast, every single episode, perhaps someone somewhere 00:14:25.540 --> 00:14:27.740 will finally start to believe it. 00:14:27.740 --> 00:14:32.240 Well, of course, if we say it every show, it eventually will be our last show, right? 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:33.200 It's got to keep repeating it. 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:34.270 Or is this going to be forever? 00:14:34.270 --> 00:14:35.490 No. 00:14:35.490 --> 00:14:36.460 Just every week. 00:14:36.460 --> 00:14:38.960 Will we have the Baptist Bias in the Millennial Reign? 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:40.830 I would sure hope so. 00:14:40.830 --> 00:14:42.810 I would like to have it in the Millennial Reign. 00:14:42.810 --> 00:14:46.530 I think that we would have probably the greatest episodes we've ever done by far if we had 00:14:46.530 --> 00:14:47.520 it in the Millennial Reign. 00:14:47.520 --> 00:14:50.160 Do you think we could get Jesus as a guest on our show? 00:14:50.160 --> 00:14:56.190 I would love to have him. But hey, I think we already do because you have a King James 00:14:56.190 --> 00:15:02.760 Bible right here on this table. That's a good point. We're hoping that we have a guest this 00:15:02.760 --> 00:15:10.510 evening all the way across the world. I don't know how difficult that is, but we have someone 00:15:10.510 --> 00:15:17.490 in Australia and it's actually Wednesday over there. He's coming to us from across the globe. 00:15:17.490 --> 00:15:23.860 In the pond? It's not the pond. No, not the pond. It's across the sphere. Across the sphere 00:15:23.860 --> 00:15:29.680 of the Earth. It's another hemisphere, even. Another hemisphere, that's right. I guess 00:15:29.680 --> 00:15:37.380 this is a good time to shamelessly plug. Next Tuesday night, we are going to have a debate 00:15:37.380 --> 00:15:46.350 on the Baptist bias on the shape of the Earth, a flat Earth debate. Now, here's the thing. 00:15:46.350 --> 00:15:50.930 It's really frustrating to admit that I'm even going to have this discussion because 00:15:50.930 --> 00:15:55.520 I think a lot of people are just like, why in the world did Pastor Shelley have this 00:15:55.520 --> 00:15:59.580 discussion? I mean, have you heard something like that? Have you seen anything like that? 00:15:59.580 --> 00:16:06.270 I've thought it. Okay. And I get it because honestly, it's like, why even validate such 00:16:06.270 --> 00:16:13.050 insane narrative, such an insane idea? Well, I think this is what I was thinking, Ben. 00:16:13.050 --> 00:16:16.920 It's kind of like the same reason that people go to the zoo. They just kind of want to watch 00:16:16.920 --> 00:16:22.660 animals do their crazy animal things. And it's not like they're expecting the animals to 00:16:22.660 --> 00:16:27.320 become humans or have rational thoughts. They want to see them be animals. And I think that 00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:34.850 some people find it fascinating to watch mentally handicapped individuals who are not even actually 00:16:34.850 --> 00:16:39.030 retarded be mentally handicapped. I think that it's just fascinating to watch people 00:16:39.030 --> 00:16:44.380 deny reality. And again, I don't think that the vast majority of flat earthers are somebody 00:16:44.380 --> 00:16:49.850 that would be willing to change their mind. But I think what would be cool is to have 00:16:49.850 --> 00:16:54.890 a discussion just to show how people can have such a strong delusion. And I think it's also 00:16:54.890 --> 00:16:59.480 important to show that you can be a conspiracy theorist and not subscribe to the literally 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:03.730 dumbest thing I've probably heard. I don't know. What are your thoughts on that? 00:17:03.730 --> 00:17:09.180 Well, it's important, I think, to expose their folly and their delusion, ultimately, 00:17:09.180 --> 00:17:14.060 Pastor Shelley, because I do believe they are under some kind of delusion to believe 00:17:14.060 --> 00:17:21.360 what they believe, and I would also argue, and you have said this yourself, that flat 00:17:21.360 --> 00:17:24.830 earthers are either stupid, wicked, or both. 00:17:24.830 --> 00:17:30.290 Yeah, I mean, again, it's so easy. All it takes is 30 seconds. You could go on YouTube 00:17:30.290 --> 00:17:33.920 right now. There's 30-second videos that debunk it. There's one-minute videos that debunk 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:36.660 it. There's two-minute videos that debunk it. There's 10-minute videos that debunk 00:17:36.660 --> 00:17:40.280 it. There's hour-long videos that debunk it. It really isn't something like you can't 00:17:40.280 --> 00:17:46.560 find information that's very clear, concise, scientific, reasonable. It's just that individuals 00:17:46.560 --> 00:17:54.630 just really are kind of afraid to change their mind or acquiesce or believe that the government 00:17:54.630 --> 00:17:58.560 hasn't lied about everything. I think that there's this attitude of like once you start 00:17:58.560 --> 00:18:02.520 realizing how much the government's lied about, that you almost go to like a hundred 00:18:02.520 --> 00:18:08.280 percent and that's just not healthy to necessarily go that far, that extreme. Do you feel like 00:18:08.280 --> 00:18:13.020 maybe when you first heard about the government lying or some conspiracy theories that maybe 00:18:13.020 --> 00:18:17.240 it caused you to be skeptical of almost everything the government's saying? 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:22.680 I think it did cause me to go perhaps a little too overboard, but I never went to the extreme 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:28.800 of not realizing that the shape of the planet that I live on is in fact a sphere and I never 00:18:28.800 --> 00:18:30.750 would. However- 00:18:30.750 --> 00:18:33.690 I didn't even think these people were real. Like I'll just be honest with you, I thought 00:18:33.690 --> 00:18:39.270 all of them were trolls. I thought so as well. And it's fascinating that people genuinely 00:18:39.270 --> 00:18:44.830 seem to believe in this stuff, but you know, this delusion exists in other places, right? 00:18:44.830 --> 00:18:50.300 People think 2+2=4 is racist. People believe that nothing exploded and created everything. 00:18:50.300 --> 00:18:57.470 Hell, I think 1+1=2 is racist as well. Yeah, of course. People think that gender is a construct. 00:18:57.470 --> 00:19:02.070 And some people, you know, just they don't even believe that flights to certain parts 00:19:02.070 --> 00:19:06.750 of the country even exist. They are skeptical. But here's the thing, I can attest. I have 00:19:06.750 --> 00:19:12.610 flown to Australia. It's a real place. Is it legitimate? I've been there. And we even 00:19:12.610 --> 00:19:19.110 have a guest, is in Australia right now. It's Nick Holt. He's going to be joining us on 00:19:19.110 --> 00:19:24.660 the show. Hey, Nick, how's it going? Hey, yeah, really good. My apologies for being 00:19:24.660 --> 00:19:30.710 late. Maybe it is something to do with the flat earth. I was out by an hour. No worries. 00:19:30.710 --> 00:19:36.690 This took a while for the ether to carry those radio waves or something. Yeah, that's right. 00:19:36.690 --> 00:19:42.310 No, it's great to have you on the show. And tell us a little bit about yourself because 00:19:42.310 --> 00:19:47.780 I think our audience specifically isn't necessarily familiar with you, but you have a podcast 00:19:47.780 --> 00:19:52.330 yourself. Can you tell us a little bit about that? 00:19:52.330 --> 00:19:56.780 Sure. Yeah. So I'm a writer and journalist by trade. I've been doing that for about 00:19:56.780 --> 00:20:06.570 15 years. I started out as a music journalist back in 2007, 2008, music and culture. And 00:20:06.570 --> 00:20:14.880 then I progressed into covering more hard news over the years. My podcast sort of took 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:22.880 off during COVID because I was very skeptical from essentially day one when Chinese people 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:28.540 started collapsing on the streets of China and they were telling us that this was because 00:20:28.540 --> 00:20:38.680 of a virus. So I started a podcast essentially from a purely objective journalistic point 00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:45.130 of view to interview experts who were being maligned in this country. So economists and 00:20:45.130 --> 00:20:50.020 health experts who were sort of saying the same thing that I was thinking, which was 00:20:50.020 --> 00:20:57.820 why are we, this is nuts. We shouldn't be doing things like lockdown. This is just crazy. 00:20:57.820 --> 00:21:08.530 So I entered that area. And then I sort of became a segue for Australians to get information 00:21:08.530 --> 00:21:16.420 about Trump and other candidates around Trump. So I interviewed Curry Lake. I covered George 00:21:16.420 --> 00:21:23.920 Papadopoulos being spied on by one of our politicians in this country. So generally, 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:33.150 I've covered things where I've seen clear malfeasance and corruption in the Australian 00:21:33.150 --> 00:21:41.410 government. And then as a result, I've looked to see ways where that's tied into the US 00:21:41.410 --> 00:21:47.230 because I've always been fascinated and I love the United States of America. I think 00:21:47.230 --> 00:21:49.560 it's the best country in the world. 00:21:49.560 --> 00:21:51.590 Have you ever visited America? 00:21:51.590 --> 00:21:55.360 I've been there about probably 10 times. 00:21:55.360 --> 00:22:01.510 Okay. Yeah. I mean, not to be an American exceptionalist, but it seems like I've seen 00:22:01.510 --> 00:22:07.730 a lot of news reports from Australia specifically covering events that are happening in America 00:22:07.730 --> 00:22:08.880 a lot of things about Trump. 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:13.900 And in fact, some people even argued that the Australian news was more reliable than 00:22:13.900 --> 00:22:18.210 the American news when it came to covering a lot of these controversial topics, especially 00:22:18.210 --> 00:22:19.700 in the last few years. 00:22:19.700 --> 00:22:24.460 I can't remember the news station, but maybe it's like Sydney, something specific. 00:22:24.460 --> 00:22:25.430 I'm trying to remember. 00:22:25.430 --> 00:22:29.830 There's like a specific, or Australian news, there's some news organization that it seems 00:22:29.830 --> 00:22:33.320 like they've covered a lot of things with Trump and it seems like they're able to speak 00:22:33.320 --> 00:22:34.300 a little freely. 00:22:34.300 --> 00:22:35.820 Yeah. 00:22:35.820 --> 00:22:38.350 Maybe it's Sky News Australia or something like that. 00:22:38.350 --> 00:22:39.390 I don't know. 00:22:39.390 --> 00:22:40.360 What is your view? 00:22:40.360 --> 00:22:41.330 Yeah. 00:22:41.330 --> 00:22:42.370 Sky is kind of like our Fox. 00:22:42.370 --> 00:22:43.360 Yeah. 00:22:43.360 --> 00:22:45.090 Sky is our Fox News because it's also owned by Fox. 00:22:45.090 --> 00:22:46.070 Oh, really? 00:22:46.070 --> 00:22:47.050 I didn't know that. 00:22:47.050 --> 00:22:48.330 But it's not a mainstream. 00:22:48.330 --> 00:22:49.300 Yeah. 00:22:49.300 --> 00:22:50.510 So it's not a mainstream station. 00:22:50.510 --> 00:22:56.480 I would actually argue the other way that Australia is actually, in terms of fake news, 00:22:56.480 --> 00:23:07.230 is worse than America because we really only have six stations and those stations are all 00:23:07.230 --> 00:23:13.780 kind of saying the same sort of globalist narratives. 00:23:13.780 --> 00:23:19.680 So when it comes to things like the riot at the Capitol, they're just going to reprint 00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:24.390 the same headlines that are happening on New York Times, those sorts of things. 00:23:24.390 --> 00:23:26.950 So we don't have a lot of diversity. 00:23:26.950 --> 00:23:30.270 We have a very big, I mean, journalism is almost non-existent in this country. 00:23:30.270 --> 00:23:34.900 Well, I would argue that America only has one news station and it's the Associated Press. 00:23:34.900 --> 00:23:37.890 What do you think about that, Ben? 00:23:37.890 --> 00:23:42.440 Evidently, I mean, if you want to get your news, I guess that's your one option considering 00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:46.140 everyone else just copies their article and pastes it on their website. 00:23:46.140 --> 00:23:51.200 Yeah, you've seen those YouTube videos where they have someone giving them the news and 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:55.670 then they have like another news station saying the exact same thing and it's like 30 news 00:23:55.670 --> 00:24:01.280 anchors just saying the exact same story, the same, like, emphasis even almost. 00:24:01.280 --> 00:24:02.560 It's like those are crazy videos. 00:24:02.560 --> 00:24:03.560 Have you seen those, Nick? 00:24:03.560 --> 00:24:06.480 Yeah, yeah. 00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:07.430 They're compilations. 00:24:07.430 --> 00:24:09.410 They're classic. 00:24:09.410 --> 00:24:11.700 They're just given a script. 00:24:11.700 --> 00:24:13.730 Right. 00:24:13.730 --> 00:24:17.120 So, you know, even if you have six over there, which is an interesting number, it might 00:24:17.120 --> 00:24:19.330 just be that y'all are the same as us. 00:24:19.330 --> 00:24:24.310 There's one news media station giving us all the same news. 00:24:24.310 --> 00:24:27.720 But no, I'm really interested to learn more about Australia. 00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:34.960 You had actually shared an article with me and I wanted to talk about this a little bit. 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:40.370 I believe you'd sent me something about Elon Musk dubbing a particular senator over in 00:24:40.370 --> 00:24:42.820 your part of the world, the enemy of the people. 00:24:42.820 --> 00:24:45.710 I don't even know how to pronounce this guy's or girl's name. 00:24:45.710 --> 00:24:46.660 Can you tell us a little bit about that? 00:24:46.660 --> 00:24:48.190 Jackie Lambie. 00:24:48.190 --> 00:24:49.140 Jackie Lambie. 00:24:49.140 --> 00:24:52.810 This is a lady, right? 00:24:52.810 --> 00:24:53.870 I think so. 00:24:53.870 --> 00:24:56.940 Let's watch this video and then you can tell us a little bit about it. 00:24:56.940 --> 00:25:02.260 Enemy of the people, that's how Elon Musk has described Jackie Lambie as the war of 00:25:02.260 --> 00:25:05.310 words between Musk and Australia intensifies. 00:25:05.310 --> 00:25:08.920 But does Elon Musk know what he's getting himself into? 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:13.110 And the crap he puts over that ex, I'll tell you what, it has gone far enough. 00:25:13.110 --> 00:25:16.730 Not only is he a social media knob, he's also a social media liar. 00:25:16.730 --> 00:25:17.730 I'm sick of it. 00:25:17.730 --> 00:25:18.730 I hate bullies. 00:25:18.730 --> 00:25:19.720 Billionaire bullies. 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:20.720 Can't stand them. 00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:25.140 After days of verbal sniping between Australian leaders and noted Wario impersonator Elon 00:25:25.140 --> 00:25:26.140 Musk. 00:25:26.140 --> 00:25:27.130 People assault men. 00:25:27.130 --> 00:25:28.130 They're online. 00:25:28.130 --> 00:25:31.360 Tassie Senator Jackie Lambie decided it was time to pour some water on the fire. 00:25:31.360 --> 00:25:33.710 He has absolutely no social conscience. 00:25:33.710 --> 00:25:36.550 Someone like that should be in jail and the key be thrown away. 00:25:36.550 --> 00:25:37.540 Sorry, not water. 00:25:37.540 --> 00:25:38.530 The other thing. 00:25:38.530 --> 00:25:39.520 Petrol. 00:25:39.520 --> 00:25:41.060 Someone like that should be in jail. 00:25:41.060 --> 00:25:44.460 And the guy known for trying to phase out petrol wasn't having it. 00:25:44.460 --> 00:25:46.810 She is an enemy of the people of Australia. 00:25:46.810 --> 00:25:50.620 The argument stems from Musk's refusal to remove graphic video of the Sydney church 00:25:50.620 --> 00:25:52.730 stabbing from his platform. 00:25:52.730 --> 00:25:55.850 Australia's e-safety commissioner demanded it be taken down. 00:25:55.850 --> 00:25:58.360 Musk said that was a violation of free speech. 00:25:58.360 --> 00:26:03.430 We'll do what's necessary to take on this arrogant billionaire who thinks he's above 00:26:03.430 --> 00:26:04.430 the law. 00:26:04.430 --> 00:26:08.820 Now Lambi has deleted her Twitter account, I mean her ex account, and encouraged other 00:26:08.820 --> 00:26:11.660 pollies to become ex ex users. 00:26:11.660 --> 00:26:18.330 I'll be switching off ex today and I suggest that the other 226 members of parliament do 00:26:18.330 --> 00:26:21.260 the same thing and show them that you mean business. 00:26:21.260 --> 00:26:24.080 This woman has utter contempt for the Australian people. 00:26:24.080 --> 00:26:28.190 But someone might want to word Musk up that any time a big US citizen tries it on with 00:26:28.190 --> 00:26:30.980 an Aussie polly, it doesn't usually work out well for them. 00:26:30.980 --> 00:26:35.100 It's time that pistol and boo bug it off back to the United States. 00:26:35.100 --> 00:26:40.130 In 2015, it was Agri Minister Barnaby Joyce going aggro at dog smugglers Johnny Depp 00:26:40.130 --> 00:26:42.640 and Amber Heard, who flaunted quarantine laws. 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:48.410 Mr. Depp has to either take his dogs back to California or we're going to have to euthanize 00:26:48.410 --> 00:26:49.930 them. 00:26:49.930 --> 00:26:53.930 The movie star is eventually recording an apology video with a convincing hostage aesthetic. 00:26:53.930 --> 00:26:56.190 Is this like a different news story now? 00:26:56.190 --> 00:26:59.700 This is interesting, but just pause it for a moment. 00:26:59.700 --> 00:27:02.610 So is that all I was going to cover about Elon? 00:27:02.610 --> 00:27:05.860 That was really interesting that she said that he needed to go to jail. 00:27:05.860 --> 00:27:12.560 I'm kind of interested what charges are brought on Elon there. 00:27:12.560 --> 00:27:14.970 Yeah. 00:27:14.970 --> 00:27:21.630 I mean, look, if you're familiar with Plato's Republic and the idea of how much he despised 00:27:21.630 --> 00:27:29.690 democracy and warned that democracy is basically, you know, the final stage before everything 00:27:29.690 --> 00:27:36.550 sort of descends into a dictatorship, it's because idiots are running the show. 00:27:36.550 --> 00:27:41.700 And Australia is now just run by some of the dumbest and most incompetent people in the 00:27:41.700 --> 00:27:43.350 southern hemisphere. 00:27:43.350 --> 00:27:50.050 And I sent you that video because that's one of the dumbest news programs that they exhibited 00:27:50.050 --> 00:27:54.180 some of the dumbest politicians, including our prime minister. 00:27:54.180 --> 00:27:57.670 It really is like an episode of The Simpsons now. 00:27:57.670 --> 00:28:01.130 These people are completely out of control. 00:28:01.130 --> 00:28:03.000 It made me think of TMZ. 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:06.450 I don't know if you even know what that organization is. 00:28:06.450 --> 00:28:11.410 But it's like the news, it's like they're showing Wario clips and they're showing like 00:28:11.410 --> 00:28:16.550 an SNL skit with Elon Musk and then it's like, "He needs to go to jail." 00:28:16.550 --> 00:28:20.010 This is just bizarre. 00:28:20.010 --> 00:28:20.960 Have you ever even heard of this? 00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:24.930 The crazy thing is that - sorry, go ahead. 00:28:24.930 --> 00:28:27.090 Have you heard of something like this, Ben? 00:28:27.090 --> 00:28:33.600 Well no, but I think when it comes to X and some of these lunatic nutjobs like Jackie 00:28:33.600 --> 00:28:38.410 there from the video package, if they're all going to leave that platform, to me, it makes 00:28:38.410 --> 00:28:43.070 it that much more attractive for me and it makes it that much more normal. 00:28:43.070 --> 00:28:48.280 So I say, go ahead, pack your bags and get off there if it's so triggering for you. 00:28:48.280 --> 00:28:50.620 I feel like you can never trust a woman. 00:28:50.620 --> 00:28:54.680 So when they say like, "You better do this or I'm going to leave." 00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:55.680 And you're like, "Fine." 00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:57.230 And they're like, "Well, I'm not going to leave now." 00:28:57.230 --> 00:29:00.620 You know, it's like as soon as everybody just says like, "We have no problem." 00:29:00.620 --> 00:29:04.480 Hey, like all these celebrities who said they were going to be moving out of America as 00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:08.550 soon as Donald Trump was elected in 2016 and yet they didn't. 00:29:08.550 --> 00:29:11.740 They make the same threat and everybody's just like, "Can you just leave anyway?" 00:29:11.740 --> 00:29:13.410 Go for it. 00:29:13.410 --> 00:29:14.600 I don't know. 00:29:14.600 --> 00:29:19.510 I mean, I'm guessing her, she's not being missed from X as of late. 00:29:19.510 --> 00:29:23.100 I don't know. 00:29:23.100 --> 00:29:24.080 No. 00:29:24.080 --> 00:29:25.070 Of course not. 00:29:25.070 --> 00:29:28.970 I mean, the problem is that they just have too much. 00:29:28.970 --> 00:29:32.670 They're just used to having too much power now. 00:29:32.670 --> 00:29:36.450 These politicians, they have so much power. 00:29:36.450 --> 00:29:43.350 They exercise that power fairly effectively during COVID-19 and have more or less gotten 00:29:43.350 --> 00:29:45.210 away with it. 00:29:45.210 --> 00:29:52.220 So now they're, as I said, completely out of control and internet censorship is obviously 00:29:52.220 --> 00:29:57.650 where they've got the crosshairs at the moment. 00:29:57.650 --> 00:30:03.470 I don't think that people know how different things may have been in Australia compared 00:30:03.470 --> 00:30:08.960 to the United States, but could you give us just a little sample of what the COVID lockdowns 00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:09.930 were like over there? 00:30:09.930 --> 00:30:13.880 Because I've heard some crazy things and of course you don't know exactly what's true 00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:14.860 unless you're over there. 00:30:14.860 --> 00:30:19.670 I'm just interested from your viewpoint, like what was going on when they instituted these 00:30:19.670 --> 00:30:20.670 COVID lockdowns? 00:30:20.670 --> 00:30:31.230 So, I mean, they were locking down entire states over one case. 00:30:31.230 --> 00:30:36.350 And when you say state, like these things run through the middle cities, right? 00:30:36.350 --> 00:30:38.700 A state, as in the state the size of Texas. 00:30:38.700 --> 00:30:40.860 Right. 00:30:40.860 --> 00:30:41.820 Wow. 00:30:41.820 --> 00:30:45.610 They're locking everyone in their homes over one case. 00:30:45.610 --> 00:30:50.760 In my state, seven cases. 00:30:50.760 --> 00:30:57.490 When people, they were shutting down businesses, they were firing rubber bullets into protesters, 00:30:57.490 --> 00:31:00.410 tear-gassing them. 00:31:00.410 --> 00:31:09.290 It was an extraordinary exercise of government overreach and I think it was a wake-up call 00:31:09.290 --> 00:31:12.410 to a lot of people. 00:31:12.410 --> 00:31:18.450 Just how much Australia is, not really Australia, I mean people have this idea that Australia 00:31:18.450 --> 00:31:25.930 was this very laid-back sovereign nation, a nice place to live, but not really. 00:31:25.930 --> 00:31:30.270 I've always been of the opinion of the last sort of decade or so, it's been very difficult 00:31:30.270 --> 00:31:36.850 to ascertain where the UN starts and Australia ends. We're really just a vessel state of 00:31:36.850 --> 00:31:42.770 the UN and that became crystal clear to me during COVID-19 because that's what this 00:31:42.770 --> 00:31:51.070 was all about. It was international government bodies like the WHO giving orders and directions 00:31:51.070 --> 00:31:54.730 that politicians in Australia like Jackie Lambie could just say, "We're following 00:31:54.730 --> 00:31:56.700 the advice." 00:31:56.700 --> 00:32:04.380 I want to ask something real quick. I know that Australia had a government either buyback 00:32:04.380 --> 00:32:10.400 or take the guns. Something happened where they kind of disarmed the people. Is that 00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:16.740 something that people now have decided they regret? What is the cultural opinion out there 00:32:16.740 --> 00:32:22.510 of y'all being disarmed as a people? 00:32:22.510 --> 00:32:33.480 Yes. That happened in 1996. There was a massacre, a lone gunman, a mass shooting. The first 00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:45.090 one really, gun violence had been on the decline in the country. But as a result of this being 00:32:45.090 --> 00:32:50.400 plastered all over the, if you're searching for it, his name is Martin Bryant, and it 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:55.720 was the Port Arthur massacre. 00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:56.670 Killed 35. 00:32:56.670 --> 00:33:04.100 But as a result of this, yeah, so, you know, like all these mass shootings in America, 00:33:04.100 --> 00:33:10.230 mass shootings in America constitutes 7% of all shootings, right? But it's the fact that 00:33:10.230 --> 00:33:17.310 they plaster it around the media 24/7 and create a production around it, so that the 00:33:17.310 --> 00:33:23.750 public is influenced emotionally, so they can bring in gun legislation and start pressuring 00:33:23.750 --> 00:33:24.730 people that way. 00:33:24.730 --> 00:33:31.890 And it works in a country like Australia, because we're not America. We don't have, 00:33:31.890 --> 00:33:36.530 first of all, we're a colonised country by Britain. We don't have a constitution in 00:33:36.530 --> 00:33:41.370 the same sense that you do, which was set up by founding fathers that were influenced 00:33:41.370 --> 00:33:46.870 largely, most of them heavily influenced by faith. So our constitution doesn't really 00:33:46.870 --> 00:33:51.590 mean anything. We don't have a second amendment. So most Australians are happy with it, to 00:33:51.590 --> 00:33:57.100 be honest. It's extraordinary. 00:33:57.100 --> 00:34:03.070 But do you feel like the culture, do you feel like people are kind of upset that maybe, 00:34:03.070 --> 00:34:09.340 like people change their mind? Like, is there any regret from being disarmed and like going 00:34:09.340 --> 00:34:12.500 through the COVID lockdowns? Or are people still just kind of like, no, I don't think 00:34:12.500 --> 00:34:15.650 we should have guns, mate. 00:34:15.650 --> 00:34:21.910 I think if you were to hold a popular vote tomorrow, you would find that overwhelmingly 00:34:21.910 --> 00:34:27.780 people would still be in favor of that law. In fact, they'd probably want you to do, go 00:34:27.780 --> 00:34:33.170 a step further and ban hunting knives or something. Wow. But that's like the most Australian thing 00:34:33.170 --> 00:34:39.740 I can think of is Crocodile Dundee being like, that's not a knife. This is a knife. Like, 00:34:39.740 --> 00:34:46.270 that's Australia. Or is this just the Hollywood propaganda? It's not. Yeah, it's not. It seems 00:34:46.270 --> 00:34:58.390 like that's as Australian as Orange Chicken is Chinese. Go ahead. Or COVID-19 is. Well, 00:34:58.390 --> 00:35:03.960 you bring up COVID and you have a few times already. And I wanted to ask this question, 00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:08.760 you know, people have compared it to 9/11 in the sense that there were sweeping changes 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:14.280 after 9/11. Of course, you had the Patriot Act, you had the dragnet surveillance programs, 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:20.900 you had the TSA, and those measures remain until 2024. They remain today. Has there 00:35:20.900 --> 00:35:26.040 been anything in Australia that you could point to that maybe comes to mind that is 00:35:26.040 --> 00:35:32.170 still in place following the COVID-19 pandemic and perhaps will be there perpetually? 00:35:32.170 --> 00:35:41.310 Well, it's interesting because they've actually rolled some things back in terms of vaccine 00:35:41.310 --> 00:35:52.500 mandates. So that was the big one, I think, when a lot of people that weren't necessarily 00:35:52.500 --> 00:35:57.120 opposed to the lockdowns that went along with it, you know, they were certainly opposed 00:35:57.120 --> 00:36:02.310 to losing their jobs, nurses, police officers, these sorts of people. And there's been reversals 00:36:02.310 --> 00:36:15.990 in court now of nurses and various other government jobs. So in terms of mandates, we've seen 00:36:15.990 --> 00:36:27.740 a reversal. But I think that that question really requires, there's a deeper answer to 00:36:27.740 --> 00:36:37.920 that which is that it's affected people psychologically, I think. You think of the damage it's done 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:45.840 that can't be taken back now, things like, well, everything, let's say from the mental 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:51.080 health crisis that they're not talking about now, the result of locking people inside their 00:36:51.080 --> 00:36:59.300 homes for two years, kids wearing masks for two years, people missing their graduations, 00:36:59.300 --> 00:37:06.630 delayed cancer screenings, delayed dementia screenings. You have all those things that 00:37:06.630 --> 00:37:13.690 have certainly changed. And then you have the economic impacts that aren't being really spoken 00:37:13.690 --> 00:37:21.860 about as well. They sort of, we've been living off modern monetary theory, which is we print money, 00:37:21.860 --> 00:37:26.880 and they kind of broke that during COVID-19 because they paid people to not work. 00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:34.970 So they're the things that I look at. But in terms of any kind of hard rules, 00:37:34.970 --> 00:37:45.690 I don't think they were as successful as perhaps they thought they were going to be in that regard. 00:37:45.690 --> 00:37:52.410 But they passed recently, or I don't know if this has been passed, or maybe this is just still in 00:37:52.410 --> 00:37:56.460 the bill formation, but you shared another thing with me about something the Labor's 00:37:56.460 --> 00:38:02.750 misinformation bill could jeopardize free speech online. I'm kind of curious and 00:38:02.750 --> 00:38:09.820 interested about this article that you shared with me. What's going on with that? 00:38:09.820 --> 00:38:27.230 Right. Yeah, so that's been in the works for a while. You know, it's both sides of our government, 00:38:27.230 --> 00:38:36.240 left and right, are involved in this. There's been a concerted effort to try and police the internet, 00:38:36.240 --> 00:38:45.900 I guess, policing what they consider extremism and that sort of thing. And I think if you follow 00:38:45.900 --> 00:38:55.560 that thread, and I'm sort of starting to come to the opinion, or at least for a lot of this stuff, 00:38:55.560 --> 00:39:01.980 based on the research I've been doing in the last five or 10 years, is that a lot of this stuff comes 00:39:01.980 --> 00:39:09.020 back to the UN's Agenda 2030 Sustainable Goals and Targets. I don't know if you're familiar 00:39:09.020 --> 00:39:14.710 with these things, but they have these goals and targets that they want to achieve. And it's 00:39:14.710 --> 00:39:25.130 everything from poverty to online hate and abuse. So the Australian Government, because we don't have 00:39:25.130 --> 00:39:35.560 the same sort of free speech protection under the Constitution that America has, is basically trying 00:39:35.560 --> 00:39:47.500 to pass a bill that will make it possible to criminalise and prosecute people for a very loose 00:39:47.500 --> 00:39:55.980 definition of online hate. Can you give us an example? Yeah, so we've already seen an example 00:39:55.980 --> 00:40:05.690 of this which is misgendering. Wow. So there was a woman who just actually won a court case. 00:40:05.690 --> 00:40:14.490 I think it's called deadnaming or something. Are you familiar with this? No, I don't think of 00:40:14.490 --> 00:40:28.170 her as deadnaming. So a man who now identifies as a woman. This person referred to that man by his 00:40:28.170 --> 00:40:35.870 actual name and we have this position called the e-safety commissioner. This has become a pretty big 00:40:35.870 --> 00:40:41.020 deal. So Elon Musk, I don't know if you guys want to pull up something on this, but Elon Musk has 00:40:41.020 --> 00:40:47.380 been in a direct fight with this woman who's quote e-safety commissioner. He's calling her the e-safety 00:40:47.380 --> 00:40:54.330 SAR. She's actually an American citizen who now works down here. She was a CIA recruit early in 00:40:54.330 --> 00:41:05.560 her career, Julie Inman Grant. She's taken on the role here of basically policing Australia's 00:41:05.560 --> 00:41:13.350 internet and she's sending out cease and desist letters to people who are doing things like 00:41:13.350 --> 00:41:20.100 naming transgender people by their old name instead of their new name. This is considered 00:41:20.100 --> 00:41:29.480 hate speech. There's an example for you. It's pretty crazy. I'm kind of interested. If I'm 00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:39.780 like going to order food at the fast food restaurant and the person says, "Hello, can I take your order?" 00:41:39.780 --> 00:41:46.810 and you're like, "Yeah, I'll take some burgers, sir." You get around the corner and it's a guy 00:41:46.810 --> 00:41:54.040 that's trying to be a girl and he says, "You misgendered me, it's ma'am." Is this now potentially 00:41:54.040 --> 00:42:00.300 illegal? That's what I'm kind of meaning by context. Or is it in the context of only online? 00:42:00.300 --> 00:42:10.090 Is it in person? Is there any kind of location this bill has parameters? 00:42:10.710 --> 00:42:26.710 So this is an online bill, but you can find instances where that person would probably, 00:42:26.710 --> 00:42:33.860 look, I don't know. I don't have any cases to cite here, so I don't know. But it's a great 00:42:33.860 --> 00:42:41.970 question. I wouldn't be surprised if that made it to our courts. If it had clogged up our courts 00:42:41.970 --> 00:42:49.560 for a few weeks. What about from a past tense perspective? Let's say I misgendered someone 00:42:49.560 --> 00:42:55.810 today and then this bill comes into effect. Is this going to be like a retroactive bill? 00:42:55.810 --> 00:43:07.380 Would this be some kind of a retroactive thing? It's another good question. I believe that 00:43:07.380 --> 00:43:15.340 they're already doing this. I know they're already doing this because I know people that... 00:43:15.340 --> 00:43:25.520 Are you familiar with a news site called Redux in Canada? I don't think I've heard of that, no. 00:43:25.520 --> 00:43:37.170 So Redux covers, it's sort of, I guess I don't want to say feminism, but it is a strong kind of... 00:43:37.170 --> 00:43:46.530 So you know there's this group now, feminists... Redux with two x's dot info. That's it, yeah. 00:43:46.530 --> 00:43:55.740 So feminists now have a new enemy. It's not you and me. It's not us. It's trans men. Yeah, 00:43:55.740 --> 00:44:01.550 yeah, in some instances for sure. But some of them, their new enemy is trans men, 00:44:01.550 --> 00:44:07.160 because that's the ultimate. Sorry, men saying they're women, right? Oh, wow. That really, 00:44:07.160 --> 00:44:13.060 that really winds them up. That gets them really furious. They do some good journalism because 00:44:13.060 --> 00:44:22.080 they're uncovering the worst of the worst, like people who are me like, tomorrow I change my name. 00:44:22.080 --> 00:44:27.310 Let's say I'm just convicted of a violent crime. Tomorrow, I change my name to Nicole, and I go 00:44:27.310 --> 00:44:36.730 to a female prison, right? They're covering this sort of stuff. And Redux covered a story in 00:44:36.730 --> 00:44:47.250 Australia about a bloke who was saying that, who claims he's a woman, who was playing on a 00:44:47.250 --> 00:44:53.380 female soccer team here in Australia. I think I saw a news thing about that. 00:44:53.380 --> 00:45:03.560 Yeah, causing carnage. There was like 12,000 complaints made to the Daily Mail newspaper 00:45:03.560 --> 00:45:08.130 about people getting injured by this guy. Girls getting injured by this guy. 00:45:08.130 --> 00:45:11.270 Didn't some journalists go there and try to ask all the girls about it? 00:45:11.270 --> 00:45:17.350 Weren't they like asking the teammates about it? Yeah, that's right. So the Daily Mail 00:45:17.350 --> 00:45:24.620 played by the rules and blurred out the guy's face and didn't name the person, 00:45:24.620 --> 00:45:34.940 but Redux did. And they received an email very quickly from this e-safety commissioner. 00:45:34.940 --> 00:45:43.760 So this is from Australia, from the e-safety commissioner, a cease and desist letter to a 00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:53.550 Canadian journalism outlet demanding that they take that story down. And the editor of that paper 00:45:53.550 --> 00:46:01.750 basically told them to f off. So I had her on my podcast straight away. She'd never done an 00:46:01.750 --> 00:46:08.750 interview before. I said, let's do this straight away. I put that podcast on my Twitter account. 00:46:08.750 --> 00:46:20.970 And within 48 hours, my blue tick, which I don't use Twitter anymore, but my blue tick back then 00:46:20.970 --> 00:46:31.730 was taken away. I paid for it for like a year in advance. It was stripped. My visibility of posts 00:46:31.730 --> 00:46:41.480 went down like a hundredfold. And I never got a refund from Twitter. So, you know, I don't know 00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:47.720 exactly what the overarching agenda is. But it's clear that there's some stuff that they're 00:46:47.720 --> 00:46:52.770 protecting here. I noticed in your one of your previous videos, you were talking about that 00:46:52.770 --> 00:47:00.310 stabbing. For some reason, they want to protect that and bring that down. The stabbing of the 00:47:00.310 --> 00:47:05.890 priest. That's not allowed to be shared in Australian media. Is that correct? Correct. 00:47:05.890 --> 00:47:11.730 Because that's a lot of Islamophobia or something like that. Is that the issue? 00:47:11.730 --> 00:47:16.160 Can't be Islamophobic in Australia, I believe. We don't know. 00:47:16.160 --> 00:47:23.790 I think that no, we have a pastor friend. Wasn't Pastor Logan deported from Australia specifically 00:47:23.790 --> 00:47:28.810 for saying things negatively about Islam? Pastor Logan Robertson was putting together 00:47:28.810 --> 00:47:35.320 a documentary that was going to be an anti-Islam film from a Christian perspective and trying to 00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:41.210 lead people to Christ. And he wanted to go and interview some Muslims, Imams or something like 00:47:41.210 --> 00:47:45.980 that about their religion. And when the Australian government caught on not only to who he is, 00:47:45.980 --> 00:47:51.460 but the project that he was working on, they actually did deport him from the country. I 00:47:51.460 --> 00:47:56.840 believe to this day he has not been back, but it goes to show you. Well, they had a set up, 00:47:56.840 --> 00:48:02.060 right? Because they had a set up because like he went to go it and like all this press shows up 00:48:02.060 --> 00:48:06.440 and everybody's there like interviewing him and asking him provocative questions on purpose. 00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:14.160 He went on site to try to interview someone for his film, a Muslim, and he was dragged away from 00:48:14.160 --> 00:48:21.800 that area and deported that very day out of the country, gone, finished, done. It goes to show you 00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:27.810 the climate over there is definitely an extreme one toward the left. Well, it seems like the 00:48:27.810 --> 00:48:35.410 monitoring is more extreme just because over there, y'all have cameras, like almost everywhere lining 00:48:35.410 --> 00:48:40.640 these major streets and highways. And I was told that if you speed or do something wrong, like, 00:48:40.640 --> 00:48:46.590 they'll just get you a ticket and mail it to you right in the mail. Is that true? 00:48:46.590 --> 00:48:58.710 Yeah, yeah, for sure. That's a lot of revenue. It's revenue raising. It's full on. So the reason 00:48:58.710 --> 00:49:03.190 I brought up Agenda 2030, which sounds like a conspiracy theory, but it's not. I mean, 00:49:03.190 --> 00:49:09.190 all of the leaders of basically almost every country in the world is a member state of this. 00:49:09.190 --> 00:49:17.140 And they meet. The first summit was in 2015. It was another big summit in 2019. They agree, 00:49:17.140 --> 00:49:22.540 the prime ministers and the leaders agree to these goals and targets. And within these things, 00:49:22.540 --> 00:49:33.370 there are things like safe cities, strong cities, smart cities. And you start to see words pop up, 00:49:33.370 --> 00:49:40.380 like social cohesion. They have a blueprint for how they want. I think it's my opinion is it's a 00:49:40.380 --> 00:49:48.720 kind of utopian socialism that they're trying to create, similar to the 1920s in the United States. 00:49:48.720 --> 00:49:57.920 And there's this people talk about a one world government. It's not far off that it's a sort 00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:06.880 of an emergent order, a governance system. And they have these ideas of how to make countries 00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:16.900 safe and inclusive. And in doing so, they absolutely obliterate individualism in the process. 00:50:16.900 --> 00:50:23.130 And they don't understand the differences in things like religion. They think all religions 00:50:23.130 --> 00:50:29.500 are the same. And it's interesting that they protect Islam so much. I mean, it's very obvious 00:50:29.500 --> 00:50:34.430 that the reason why they don't want that video to circulate is because a young radicalized 00:50:34.430 --> 00:50:43.470 Islamist attacked a Orthodox Christian priest. So that doesn't surprise me. 00:50:43.470 --> 00:50:49.400 It doesn't seem like all religions are being treated the same. It seems like every religion 00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:55.740 but Christianity is being treated the same from my viewpoint. And I'm kind of interested, 00:50:55.740 --> 00:51:01.660 you brought this up of the idea of this one world order or government. It almost wonders 00:51:01.660 --> 00:51:05.980 if it's already here in the sense that it seems like a lot of these countries are all kind of 00:51:05.980 --> 00:51:13.830 doing the same things. And I noticed today on Twitter, the owner or CEO of Rumble posted and 00:51:13.830 --> 00:51:19.820 said that Russia has officially blocked Rumble. So I guess our Russian brethren aren't able to 00:51:19.820 --> 00:51:23.620 watch the show tonight. Ben, what do you think? Apparently they are locked out. Yeah, 00:51:23.620 --> 00:51:29.370 for like, they can watch us on Twitter and they can watch us on God resource. So maybe if you 00:51:29.370 --> 00:51:34.580 know somebody in Russia, you got to share them that but that's crazy to me that rumble would 00:51:34.580 --> 00:51:41.840 be would be banned in Russia because I'm thinking like what what threat like what content is being 00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:47.640 put on rumble that's a threat to Soviet Russia right now that wouldn't be on YouTube because 00:51:47.640 --> 00:51:53.630 YouTube isn't banned so in your mind do you have a guess at all like to me the only content that's 00:51:53.630 --> 00:52:01.920 really on rumble that's like different is is mostly like anti-israel information or just simply like 00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:07.490 certain criticisms of the government like the American government and a lot of times it's even 00:52:07.490 --> 00:52:12.840 pro-Russia information so like I don't know I'm kind of curious what do you think Nick what why 00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:22.470 do you think that Russia would ban rumble of all apps? Yeah I have no idea that was a surprise to 00:52:22.470 --> 00:52:28.800 me because as you both just said I would have thought that rumble was far more sympathetic to 00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:38.600 Russia than YouTube. Yeah they're anti-LGBT like Russia is more anti-LGBT than America is 00:52:38.600 --> 00:52:48.290 and it seems like rumble allows for more speech against anti-LGBT against certain American policies 00:52:48.290 --> 00:52:55.330 against Biden specifically against Israel they're just a little bit more free speech in general but 00:52:55.330 --> 00:53:00.880 I'm like what information is being put on rumble right now that's scary for Russia that I mean what 00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:08.790 do you think Ben? I couldn't even guess as to why rumble would be banned in Russia and it goes to 00:53:08.790 --> 00:53:16.790 show you that our perspective on what's going on is probably skewed a little bit in the sense like 00:53:16.790 --> 00:53:24.460 well why you know what are there maybe some bad actors in Russia is Putin you know behind this 00:53:24.460 --> 00:53:30.950 somehow I mean it's a it's a weird deal I really don't know and if you were to tell me that of all 00:53:30.950 --> 00:53:35.970 the platforms it would be rumble that would get banned in Russia I would call you crazy I would 00:53:35.970 --> 00:53:40.350 think it would just be a blanket ban that they would get rid of YouTube as well and so there is 00:53:40.350 --> 00:53:46.880 something fishy going on and maybe some sort of nefarious influence that is making an impact 00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:51.310 over there but I really couldn't tell you exactly what's going on well you know what's interesting 00:53:51.310 --> 00:53:57.610 to me is if if I saw every leader of every country whether that be the Russian leader European 00:53:57.610 --> 00:54:03.760 leaders American leaders all going to a particular country like let's just say Mexico and they just 00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:11.570 all are like bowing down and worshiping the Mary statue in Mexico or involved with the Mexican 00:54:11.570 --> 00:54:16.770 leadership or maybe the pope or something it almost seemed like that particular individual or that 00:54:16.770 --> 00:54:25.720 group is somehow in control or has some kind of influence over those individuals and you know it 00:54:25.720 --> 00:54:35.410 just kind of interesting to me that if if there was any country I mean whether it's India Russia China 00:54:35.410 --> 00:54:41.300 Australia I mean if you saw all the religious leaders going to one specific nation bowing down 00:54:41.300 --> 00:54:46.810 and worshiping that wouldn't you think like maybe that particular group maybe has control over them 00:54:46.810 --> 00:54:52.190 what do you think Ben? I would definitely start to believe there's something fishy going on and 00:54:52.190 --> 00:54:57.750 that this group probably has massive influence like you're describing for sure. I mean not even 00:54:57.750 --> 00:55:05.770 that just every like celebrity famous person rich person just all kinds of individuals in government 00:55:05.770 --> 00:55:13.000 are just all going I mean there's Vladimir Putin right there in Israel with a small hat at the 00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:21.500 wailing wall that's interesting to me why he was there isn't it don't they say that Russia typically 00:55:23.710 --> 00:55:30.560 supports Iran against Israel yes supports the Islamists against Israel is that a narrative that 00:55:30.560 --> 00:55:41.000 you kind of hear about Nick well if you are just just on on Russia and rumble one other thing to 00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:52.130 add there is that if you remember when Russia um went into Ukraine because everyone was basically 00:55:52.130 --> 00:56:00.910 banning Russian media wasn't rumble really the only one that was not supporting but um allowing 00:56:00.910 --> 00:56:09.330 I guess allowing yeah yeah to my knowledge yes pretty sure that was the case yeah that's what 00:56:09.330 --> 00:56:16.930 was going on so that's what makes the story even more bizarre yeah something about what do you think 00:56:16.930 --> 00:56:23.890 about this idea of if every major leader is all going to the same country and all kind of seems 00:56:23.890 --> 00:56:29.870 to acquiesce to their political and religious ideologies doesn't that seem like there's maybe 00:56:29.870 --> 00:56:39.350 a connection there Nick what do you think uh could you give me an example of well just like 00:56:39.350 --> 00:56:49.570 specifically you know we see a lot of individuals going to Israel visiting Israel having some kind 00:56:49.570 --> 00:56:57.480 of a really an unconditional allegiance to that particular nation do you feel like that that 00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:03.620 might be an indication that they might have some level of influence that's beyond other nations 00:57:03.620 --> 00:57:14.390 oh yeah sure I don't know to what extent the politician is um you know being a chameleon 00:57:14.390 --> 00:57:23.370 this is my has always been my major criticism of trump this is blind allegiance to to israel 00:57:23.370 --> 00:57:32.000 um but you also see it with muslim countries as well um i mean our poli you see it with the really 00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:40.090 you see it with the politicians that have no real you know that's saying if you if you stand 00:57:40.090 --> 00:57:45.470 for everything you stand for nothing and you see politicians like justin trudeau trudeau and our 00:57:45.470 --> 00:57:52.250 politician that you saw before they'll go to a muslim country and they'll wear a uh a uh whatever 00:57:52.250 --> 00:58:00.980 um burka they'll go to india and they'll wear a turban um they're just clowns these people um 00:58:00.980 --> 00:58:13.560 i don't i think it's just a it's weakness but i think with with israel it is showing support i 00:58:13.560 --> 00:58:25.910 think that that's a sign of of bilateral solidarity in that case you know it's no it's no secret that 00:58:25.910 --> 00:58:34.820 america has a very strong allegiance with israel right right and i mean you know why are all these 00:58:34.820 --> 00:58:41.760 leaders though not going to christian churches and uh you know joining with their services i never 00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:48.220 seen them doing that i agree with you they might go to the mosque they may go to some hindu temple 00:58:48.220 --> 00:58:54.700 they may go to the wailing wall it doesn't seem like they have the same affinity for christianity 00:58:54.700 --> 00:59:00.400 but specifically in our in our politics we recently had a bill that's been passed in the house 00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:09.700 and it's basically trying to curb global anti-semitism and in fact i read a little 00:59:09.700 --> 00:59:17.000 bit about this and it even brought up incidents that happened in australia what do you know about 00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:24.900 this bill ben well it's the anti-semitism awareness act because apparently we all 00:59:24.900 --> 00:59:32.080 need to be more aware that anti-semitism exists we haven't been notified of this yet 00:59:32.080 --> 00:59:37.100 and so that's why this bill passed through the house it still has to get through the senate 00:59:37.100 --> 00:59:42.760 and then the president so-called who doesn't know what planet he's on his handlers have to 00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:46.830 remind him what his signature looks like and he has to sign it into law so all of that hasn't 00:59:46.830 --> 00:59:54.710 happened yet but what this essentially does is it takes what i would consider to be an unelected 00:59:54.710 --> 01:00:03.080 group and makes them the arbiter of what is and is not anti-semitic and uses their ruling as a 01:00:03.080 --> 01:00:09.560 pretext to pull funding from institutions that they deem to be in violation of this law that's 01:00:09.560 --> 01:00:17.770 essentially i think how this bill can be summarized in a real quick sound bite but to me the big story 01:00:17.770 --> 01:00:23.740 associated with it is the slippery slope that can result from this i think it's the precedent 01:00:23.740 --> 01:00:29.710 that's been set consequently from this bill and what it could lead to in the future more extreme 01:00:29.710 --> 01:00:36.620 legislation that could potentially mirror some of the laws that we see over there in australia 01:00:36.620 --> 01:00:46.180 nick what do you think about that yeah um it's a pretty crazy bill i read it the other day um and 01:00:46.180 --> 01:00:54.370 you know it's off the back of the um ihr a bill the uh international holocaust remembrance alliance 01:00:54.370 --> 01:00:59.060 if that's what you're talking about which i think was that is what i was referring to around 20 01:00:59.060 --> 01:01:12.110 yeah around 2016 i think um so it's really what's wild is um the how they define what encompasses 01:01:12.110 --> 01:01:24.350 contemporary um examples of anti-semitism um and you know this is everything like applying double 01:01:24.350 --> 01:01:32.700 standards to israel whatever that means you know drawing comparisons to um contemporary israel 01:01:32.700 --> 01:01:44.340 policy and the nazis and criticizing israel um denying the holocaust so flaming not only denying 01:01:44.340 --> 01:01:56.560 the holocaust denying that it happened on the scale it did so basically saying and this is 01:01:56.560 --> 01:02:02.210 interesting i'll give you an example to tie in australia policing the internet um i guess you 01:02:02.210 --> 01:02:11.550 guys are familiar with elijah shafer yeah so i was on elijah's show show um a couple of months ago 01:02:11.550 --> 01:02:17.910 and we were talking and it's a pretty loose show you know you can you can say some things and 01:02:17.910 --> 01:02:24.450 that's a nice way to word his character so yeah and i i love having and i have my whole life i love 01:02:24.450 --> 01:02:29.200 having conversations for the sake of having conversations you know there's no right or 01:02:29.200 --> 01:02:34.460 wrong let's just i i think there's nothing more there's no such thing as dangerous speech there's 01:02:34.460 --> 01:02:40.650 only the only thing that's dangerous is trying to stop that speech um so i i said to him um i said 01:02:40.650 --> 01:02:47.100 to him you know have you ever have you ever questioned the six million number and at that 01:02:47.100 --> 01:02:53.250 point he said um well before i answer that question i'm going to stop youtube and we're 01:02:53.250 --> 01:03:02.850 going to go to rumble so we went to rumble and had a conversation about that number and you know i 01:03:02.850 --> 01:03:08.440 said i made a kind of you know i was just talking and making an argument that you know i wouldn't be 01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:16.410 surprised if that number had been um exaggerated or inflated by media for whatever reason and he 01:03:16.410 --> 01:03:24.420 got a cease and desist letter from the australian government oh man wow for that so i'm probably 01:03:24.420 --> 01:03:33.290 on their radar now for anti-semitism um so it's incredible right i mean the australian population 01:03:33.290 --> 01:03:44.360 the jewish population australia is something like 0.4 0.04 percent well you know i kind of wondered 01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:50.790 this is what i wondered if i just believed genuinely believed that the there was five 01:03:50.790 --> 01:03:56.170 million nine hundred and ninety nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine jews that were killed 01:03:56.170 --> 01:04:02.260 and exterminated by the germans am i now a holocaust denier if that's what i believed 01:04:02.260 --> 01:04:11.530 and it almost seems like because you're claiming that the holocaust didn't happen um to the scale 01:04:11.530 --> 01:04:17.560 of significance has been suggested right like even if they rounded up even if i thought that 01:04:17.560 --> 01:04:24.400 they just rounded up it's like somehow that that's just anti-semitism is is to believe 01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:31.020 that maybe the numbers were somewhat exaggerated or the reason why they were killed was not 01:04:31.020 --> 01:04:37.510 necessarily just to exterminate them or really just asking any kind of question and and what's silly 01:04:37.510 --> 01:04:43.050 to me and what's so funny about it is they don't have a document and they'll even admit like there 01:04:43.050 --> 01:04:48.750 is no document says like hey here's hitler's plan for the holocaust or here's where he said 01:04:48.750 --> 01:04:54.990 specifically that he's going to do those things but you know if you if you question it you're 01:04:54.990 --> 01:05:02.680 somehow just the worst person that's ever existed and it's like you don't have any physical evidence 01:05:02.680 --> 01:05:09.810 or proof and then it's like okay these are this is the same group that's now going to tell everybody 01:05:09.810 --> 01:05:17.590 what anti-semitism even is and what the examples are and and even more extreme examples to me is 01:05:17.590 --> 01:05:24.690 is like just where the bible just literally says that the jews killed jesus and by perpetuating 01:05:24.690 --> 01:05:33.150 this trope or suggesting that perhaps these people are guilty because you know the bible says whenever 01:05:33.150 --> 01:05:39.460 they were uh the jews were arguing with pilot and pilot didn't want the blood of jesus on his hands 01:05:39.460 --> 01:05:45.540 he said he washed the sands before them and then they said his blood be on us and on our children 01:05:45.540 --> 01:05:52.980 and you know by just pointing that out you're now saying like oh these people are somehow guilty 01:05:52.980 --> 01:06:00.710 for that specifically and it's considered anti-semitic and again these are these are 01:06:00.710 --> 01:06:06.330 just two examples like if you just read the whole thing i kind of genuinely felt like almost every 01:06:06.330 --> 01:06:13.360 single news organization group individual everybody's probably been guilty of at least 01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:17.870 one of these specific definitions at some point in time's past and i'm thinking like is this going 01:06:17.870 --> 01:06:23.500 to be a retroactive bill because they could really just nab whoever they want whenever they want 01:06:23.500 --> 01:06:29.210 however they want it kind of felt that way what do you think ben about how broad this particular 01:06:29.210 --> 01:06:35.590 definition could be applied well i think they're casting a wide net on purpose so that they can 01:06:35.590 --> 01:06:42.280 like you said nab as many people as possible but for me and again i think that when you look at 01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:48.740 the precedent that this bill sets and what it could potentially lead to in the future 01:06:48.740 --> 01:06:53.760 that's the biggest story because i think now that the standard is set that hey we can pass 01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:58.940 legislation that curtails free speech and free expression it opens the door for them to pass 01:06:58.940 --> 01:07:05.080 something a lot more extreme in the future whereby they can actually throw people in prison for saying 01:07:05.080 --> 01:07:10.740 things like the jews killed jesus or whatever other statements they want to designate as 01:07:10.740 --> 01:07:17.960 anti-semitic according to this organization here the ihra well you know what it makes me 01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:23.920 this is what it reminds me of it reminds me of youtube because youtube you basically just say 01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:30.420 i have to agree to their terms and services but their terms and services can literally change 01:07:30.420 --> 01:07:36.940 whenever they want so it's like this bill is saying hey we're agreeing to their definition but then 01:07:36.940 --> 01:07:42.060 it's like what happens when they just change it tomorrow is that now again retroactive are we 01:07:42.060 --> 01:07:49.600 basically just handing them the power and authority to just deem whoever whenever however they want to 01:07:49.600 --> 01:07:54.740 be basically a bad person and now they've broken the law because i mean that's what it feels like 01:07:54.740 --> 01:08:00.060 is that we're basically just saying they can update this however whenever i mean did i read 01:08:00.060 --> 01:08:04.890 the bill wrong is that your understanding nick that this place could literally even change the 01:08:04.890 --> 01:08:12.020 definition tomorrow and it would be something new yeah i think with most of these bills they're 01:08:12.020 --> 01:08:25.130 deliberately ambiguous right there's this um what does denying the holocaust really mean you know 01:08:25.130 --> 01:08:35.350 they say take that clip from um when i was on elijah's show they can they can uh you know impute 01:08:35.350 --> 01:08:40.970 intent onto me that's not really the intent that i had and i'll say well that's what you meant i was 01:08:40.970 --> 01:08:47.550 like no it's not yeah it is you're gonna you're going to prison this is the danger of these things 01:08:47.550 --> 01:08:56.650 they they think they know what's on your heart well to me this shows an intense fear of having 01:08:56.650 --> 01:09:04.060 a marketplace of ideas of having free speech as a concept as a theoretical concept because they know 01:09:04.060 --> 01:09:09.240 inherently that their ideas suck for lack of a better term they know that the truth is not on 01:09:09.240 --> 01:09:15.060 their side and the truth spreads like wildfire so their only option is to intimidate their only 01:09:15.060 --> 01:09:20.320 option is to scare people like you into silence especially there in australia of course the us 01:09:20.320 --> 01:09:25.350 it's starting to happen here they're rapidly dissolving the first amendment but my point is 01:09:25.350 --> 01:09:32.480 i'm not afraid of having that open marketplace i'm not afraid of having a public square in which 01:09:32.480 --> 01:09:39.320 all ideas are discussed and debated back and forth because i know and have confidence in what i believe 01:09:39.320 --> 01:09:47.390 in my world view and hey we're having a freaking flat earther next week coming on to debate us 01:09:47.390 --> 01:09:52.520 right the most retarded thing ever but here's here's a point you have confidence that you hold 01:09:52.520 --> 01:09:55.450 the truth on that issue you hold to the truth on that issue so you're willing to have the 01:09:55.450 --> 01:10:00.130 conversation they're not willing to have the conversation which exposes the fact that they 01:10:00.130 --> 01:10:09.600 have no confidence in their ideology yeah i'm not afraid of the truth of the flatter you know it's 01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:17.550 like if if six million jews were exterminated by hitler and there's just a mountain of evidence 01:10:17.550 --> 01:10:24.350 like wouldn't you almost even want the skepticism to be brought to the table because then you can 01:10:24.350 --> 01:10:30.980 just demolish them with all of your evidence and facts and just kind of basically just destroy that 01:10:30.980 --> 01:10:37.590 ideology with truth and then you never have to really worry about there being dissent or 01:10:37.590 --> 01:10:43.610 an issue or a problem. It's basically this is what's so funny about it. This is what they would, 01:10:43.610 --> 01:10:49.700 this is what they say Ben. They say that disinformation is so powerful and so if we 01:10:49.700 --> 01:10:55.330 allow these quote lies to spread too much then we'll have negative consequences, we'll have 01:10:55.330 --> 01:11:00.740 another hitler, we'll have another you know bad event because all these lies are spreading and 01:11:00.740 --> 01:11:05.650 it's like that's exactly what they're doing. They're the ones that are spreading these lies 01:11:05.650 --> 01:11:15.090 and they're literally just basically telling you exactly what they are doing while projecting onto 01:11:15.090 --> 01:11:22.530 you their specific plan of attack. Well just prove it though. Prove me wrong. If six million 01:11:22.530 --> 01:11:27.850 Jews died in the Holocaust and there's irrefutable evidence for it and anybody who questions it 01:11:27.850 --> 01:11:32.300 is denying reality then prove me wrong. Where's the evidence? Why don't you demonstrate that 01:11:32.300 --> 01:11:37.870 I'm wrong rather than just silencing my ability to speak? Well and here's the thing for me 01:11:37.870 --> 01:11:44.630 on that particular point. Let's just say two million Jews were killed. That's still like a 01:11:44.630 --> 01:11:53.050 giant number, a horrible atrocity. Like does that really even undermine necessarily you know any of 01:11:53.050 --> 01:11:56.950 these the same thoughts or feelings that people would have towards that particular event if it 01:11:56.950 --> 01:12:01.650 was two million? So then you kind of have to ask this question like why is that number just so 01:12:01.650 --> 01:12:08.660 important specifically? Like why does it have to be this specific number? And I think that the fear 01:12:08.660 --> 01:12:15.360 is really okay if that number is not accurate what other things may not be accurate or what other 01:12:15.360 --> 01:12:23.480 information is happening here and it's like you can't really question any of it at all. And again 01:12:23.480 --> 01:12:29.980 why is it that what the bible says is so dangerous? Because you again Nick over here's 01:12:29.980 --> 01:12:34.920 explaining to us that they have kind of this agnostic view on a religion but from my perspective 01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:39.880 I feel like there's an attack directly on Christianity here. I mean why don't they bring 01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:45.870 up something from an Islamic perspective in this specific bill? Why didn't they bring up something 01:12:45.870 --> 01:12:51.770 from a Hindu perspective in this particular bill about something that those scriptures said? Why 01:12:51.770 --> 01:12:58.770 are they only bringing up an example specifically from the Bible and almost a direct quote? Does 01:12:58.770 --> 01:13:04.270 that seem eerie to you Nick that it's like they're kind of isolating it to one specific 01:13:04.270 --> 01:13:15.380 religious example here? Well I mean look we know that Jesus is the truth. We know that because he 01:13:15.380 --> 01:13:26.310 told us and evil protects liars by crucifying the truth and that's what happened to Jesus. 01:13:28.360 --> 01:13:35.710 So they always crucify and do anything they can to prevent truth and I think that's what this 01:13:35.710 --> 01:13:48.730 broadly comes down to is liars and truth. I'm not an expert on Israel and Judaism. I don't understand 01:13:48.730 --> 01:14:02.950 why anti-Semitism is the cornerstone of Western influence when it comes to protecting civil 01:14:02.950 --> 01:14:10.300 liberties or social justice but the question you asked is very important. Why are that number? And 01:14:10.300 --> 01:14:18.190 to a greater extent, why that event? Why can't the same be said for the Rwandan genocide? 01:14:18.190 --> 01:14:19.320 Armenian. 01:14:19.320 --> 01:14:20.700 The Armenian genocide. 01:14:20.700 --> 01:14:21.270 Yeah. 01:14:21.270 --> 01:14:30.940 Yeah, exactly. Why this event? And the answer skeptics and intellectuals are going to move 01:14:30.940 --> 01:14:36.390 towards is well, maybe they're not telling the truth about this event. We don't know to what 01:14:36.390 --> 01:14:43.830 extent but when you follow that trail of reason and intellectual inquiry, you're going to start 01:14:43.830 --> 01:14:50.230 questioning things. And for whatever reason, they don't want us to question these things. 01:14:50.230 --> 01:14:59.440 Which leads you to the conclusion, the sort of short term conclusion, at least that they're 01:14:59.440 --> 01:15:06.250 lying about something. They're definitely what? They're definitely lying because the Bible says 01:15:06.250 --> 01:15:14.200 who was a liar, but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ, he is anti Christ. And, you know, 01:15:14.200 --> 01:15:20.470 again, I would agree with you. I'm not an expert on Judaism. I don't think anybody hardly is, 01:15:20.470 --> 01:15:28.100 because the Talmud is such a large collection of information and it's a very esoteric religion 01:15:28.100 --> 01:15:35.540 that's kept guarded. It's a very cult-like religious experience. They're not open 01:15:35.540 --> 01:15:40.780 about what they believe. They're not telling everybody. You know, from our church's perspective, 01:15:40.780 --> 01:15:45.940 we put our doctrinal statement online for our all to read. Every single one of our sermons is 01:15:45.940 --> 01:15:51.570 live broadcasted all the time. We never hide anything we believe because the truth doesn't 01:15:51.570 --> 01:15:57.740 fear investigation. But you look at other groups. We look at the Mormons. You look at the Freemasons. 01:15:57.740 --> 01:16:03.330 You look at a lot of different secretive groups that are in colleges, skull and bones, 01:16:03.330 --> 01:16:10.740 what is going on in Bohemian Grove. In fact, if you drive by a Freemason building in America, 01:16:10.740 --> 01:16:16.490 all the windows are either gone or boarded up. They literally have no way to look inside. 01:16:17.130 --> 01:16:24.150 There are buildings and you kind of see this common theme and it's no different with Judaism 01:16:24.150 --> 01:16:28.530 specifically. They're not telling everybody what they're doing, the practices that they're 01:16:28.530 --> 01:16:36.380 performing down in the tunnels. So it's very difficult to know what even really is going on. 01:16:36.380 --> 01:16:42.010 I don't think that any of us could possibly know, but I know this, that nothing done in secret 01:16:42.010 --> 01:16:48.700 is going to be good. Things that are done out in the open in the light is what the Bible says are 01:16:48.700 --> 01:16:53.060 the things that are good, honest, of good report. Jesus Christ, like you said, is the way the truth 01:16:53.060 --> 01:16:59.450 and the life. The Bible tells us that Jesus and God is light and that the things that are going 01:16:59.450 --> 01:17:05.780 on in darkness are evil. And I think that it's important that we bring things to light. Obviously 01:17:05.780 --> 01:17:12.970 trying to ban speech is darkness. It's not light. I'm not afraid of what my enemies or opponents have 01:17:12.970 --> 01:17:20.500 to say. That's why I would theoretically debate any of them or contend with any of them. Obviously 01:17:20.500 --> 01:17:24.370 sometimes it's a waste of time. You don't always want to have every foolish conversation. 01:17:24.370 --> 01:17:30.180 But at the end of the day, the truth just doesn't fear any investigation. The righteous are as bold 01:17:30.180 --> 01:17:36.450 as a lion. What do you think about this idea of things being in secret, Ben? What are your 01:17:36.450 --> 01:17:43.710 thoughts here with these bills and what's going on? Well, I believe that it's an attempt to 01:17:43.710 --> 01:17:50.820 curtail our ability to speak, knowing that they cannot debunk what we're saying. But I also think 01:17:50.820 --> 01:17:59.240 they want to establish a mandatory denial of reality. And that's what you described earlier, 01:17:59.240 --> 01:18:03.740 Nick, and just want to get your response to this because you brought up the fact that it's 01:18:03.740 --> 01:18:11.190 illegal to, as you put it and as they're putting it, dead name someone who believes that they 01:18:11.190 --> 01:18:16.910 are a woman when they're really a man. You walk around believing that you're an attack helicopter 01:18:16.910 --> 01:18:23.510 and I guess everyone has to go along with that or a tree or a cat or a horse or a tank or whatever, 01:18:23.510 --> 01:18:31.510 but my point is this is a mandatory denial of reality to establish a collectivist brain dead 01:18:31.510 --> 01:18:39.280 society that masquerades as a liberal democracy filled with tolerance. But what do you think 01:18:39.280 --> 01:18:44.680 about that, this mandatory denial of reality that we're seeing, especially in your neck of the woods? 01:18:44.680 --> 01:18:57.100 Yeah, I mean, that's exactly what it is, right? And they use these things like anti-Semitism. 01:18:57.100 --> 01:19:05.100 To me, it's a lie in the same way that homophobia or transphobia or racism is used. I mean, there 01:19:05.100 --> 01:19:18.040 is racism, but when it's used as a lie, it's designed to stop people from trying to bring 01:19:18.040 --> 01:19:33.510 truth into light. They tried the same liars with Jesus, with God, but they couldn't. Ultimately, 01:19:33.510 --> 01:19:44.380 you can't suppress the truth as much as they are trying to. They're just doing it through bullying 01:19:44.380 --> 01:19:57.360 and through slurs and through classifications, this Orwellian kind of language. They want to classify 01:19:57.360 --> 01:20:08.580 people into groups rather than into individuals who are thinking and expressing thoughts. 01:20:08.580 --> 01:20:24.930 So, yeah, I mean, they are fundamentally attempting to change reality through lies. 01:20:24.930 --> 01:20:30.380 And I don't think that's a new thing, right? I think that's been going on since the dawn of 01:20:30.380 --> 01:20:44.650 time. And that's ultimately the mission here on earth is to seek truth. And we are anchored to 01:20:44.650 --> 01:20:52.650 truth through the scripture and through our Lord. And we have a very sound basis for that. But there 01:20:52.650 --> 01:20:58.320 are many people out there right now who don't have that anchor. And there's a lot of chaos going 01:20:58.320 --> 01:21:02.420 around. You know, you see this term truth seekers. I mean, these people, some of these people are 01:21:02.420 --> 01:21:08.310 crazy in terms of what they believe. They're all over the place right now. So Satan is having a 01:21:08.310 --> 01:21:15.450 field day. And you're right, because Satan at the very beginning of the Bible says, yea, God said, 01:21:15.450 --> 01:21:21.150 and he's trying to basically deny the reality of what God thinks is going on. I mean, God's telling 01:21:21.150 --> 01:21:25.100 them not to eat in the tree in the midst of the garden. The devil is saying, no, it's fine. Eat 01:21:25.100 --> 01:21:29.320 the tree in the midst of the garden. It's actually going to be good for you. And I feel like there's 01:21:29.320 --> 01:21:35.350 a spiritual answer for all the things that we've been bringing up. And I think it is all a thinly 01:21:35.350 --> 01:21:42.260 veiled attack on the gospel that the devil wants to stop people from preaching the gospel. And 01:21:42.260 --> 01:21:47.600 it's important for this anti-Semitism to undermine the gospel because we have to 01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:57.070 recognize that if the Jews did kill Jesus, like the text says, then specifically, you know, 01:21:57.070 --> 01:22:03.320 you kind of have a dichotomy of opinion here because either you take the Judaism view that 01:22:03.320 --> 01:22:08.000 they're God's chosen people and they're just these special descendants and they're just special. And 01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:13.290 that's how you go to heaven is by genealogy or by following the works of the law. But by 01:22:13.290 --> 01:22:19.780 killing Jesus and him rising again from the dead, that confirms everything that he said, 01:22:19.780 --> 01:22:23.890 everything that he did. And he made it clear he's the way the truth and the life and no men come 01:22:23.890 --> 01:22:28.710 under the father but by him. And that salvation's only by putting your faith and trust in Jesus 01:22:28.710 --> 01:22:35.940 Christ and his finished work on the cross. And so it's by bringing in these narratives, 01:22:35.940 --> 01:22:41.490 they're saying like if the Jews didn't even kill Jesus, they say, no, no, no, there was just this 01:22:41.490 --> 01:22:47.520 troublemaker and the Romans killed him or Jesus didn't even exist or whatever, you know, supplementary, 01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:54.270 you know, explanation they want to bring in here. Well, now the Bible's a lie. Now the Jews didn't 01:22:54.270 --> 01:22:59.900 reject their Messiah. Now Jesus isn't the suffering lamb of God. Now he isn't what he says in John 01:22:59.900 --> 01:23:04.590 chapter one where he came unto his own and his own received him not. And so it basically just 01:23:04.590 --> 01:23:11.840 completely undermines the gospel message, undermines faith alone in Christ alone, 01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:17.620 and that he was our once for all sacrifice. And so while there's so many other subplots 01:23:17.620 --> 01:23:25.660 and other motivations, I believe this is the purpose and the meaning behind all of these 01:23:25.660 --> 01:23:31.150 decisions. And that's why you see a unification of all other religions, them not being demonized, 01:23:31.150 --> 01:23:35.370 not being a big deal because they're all lies too. And it's really just the devil using these 01:23:35.370 --> 01:23:43.510 people as pawns to specifically attack the gospel and Jesus Christ and people being saved. 01:23:43.510 --> 01:23:49.450 You know, what do you think about this as the ultimate reason why we're seeing these things 01:23:49.450 --> 01:23:57.940 happening? I think it's exactly what it is. We have to see it that way. You know, 01:23:57.940 --> 01:24:04.170 this is why for me, all these online censorship and Elon Musk and the Australian government, 01:24:04.170 --> 01:24:17.890 Things are largely noise for me because I was saved by grace late in my life, and I'm 01:24:17.890 --> 01:24:25.530 a massive sinner and my life is about much smaller things. 01:24:25.530 --> 01:24:31.100 Am I being a good partner, am I being a good son, am I being a good brother, am I being 01:24:31.100 --> 01:24:38.010 a good employee, am I being a good neighbour, am I being a good disciple of Christ? 01:24:38.010 --> 01:24:43.140 And of course, I fall and you get back up and you fall and you get back up, but we have 01:24:43.140 --> 01:24:50.270 to see the world through that lens and when we do see it through that lens, then it's 01:24:50.270 --> 01:25:00.290 very clear that, sorry, good and evil and truth and lies just becomes crystal clear 01:25:00.290 --> 01:25:07.260 and then our notion of good and evil and truth and lies is founded in the Scriptures and 01:25:07.260 --> 01:25:10.540 it's founded in what Jesus tells us. 01:25:10.540 --> 01:25:16.080 So it's crystal clear that that is what's going on. 01:25:16.080 --> 01:25:21.210 Now, of course, that doesn't mean that there aren't situations in the physical world where 01:25:21.210 --> 01:25:27.780 you have to rise above being just a good son, a good brother, a good, you know that better 01:25:27.780 --> 01:25:29.010 than anyone, right? 01:25:29.010 --> 01:25:37.640 You've had to defend the word in public against the maniacs. 01:25:37.640 --> 01:25:41.510 And that's proof to you, it's, I mean, look where these people, these maniacs are spoken 01:25:41.510 --> 01:25:44.080 of in the Scripture and that's truth to you. 01:25:44.080 --> 01:25:54.100 These people are demonic and that's truth to you that the world is about this spiritual 01:25:54.100 --> 01:25:57.990 lens that you just articulated very well. 01:25:57.990 --> 01:26:06.890 So I think that I'm seeing a lot of people come around to the idea of, you know, I check, 01:26:06.890 --> 01:26:11.390 I still check and look at Twitter occasionally. 01:26:11.390 --> 01:26:18.320 A lot of people, I find it interesting that we'll put Christian in their biography, but 01:26:18.320 --> 01:26:23.800 they're more interested in every other big issue that's happening in the world and fighting 01:26:23.800 --> 01:26:33.990 these, like, the truth seekers as I called it, but, you know, Jesus said, you know, "Get 01:26:33.990 --> 01:26:34.930 away from me. 01:26:34.930 --> 01:26:37.700 I don't know you." 01:26:37.700 --> 01:26:43.200 I want to get Ben's opinion on this and I want to bring up Nick Fuentas getting on Twitter 01:26:43.200 --> 01:26:50.270 too, but what do you think about this spiritual underlying of what's going on in the world, 01:26:50.270 --> 01:26:52.820 these events, these bills? 01:26:52.820 --> 01:26:54.160 What's your opinion here, Ben? 01:26:54.160 --> 01:26:58.760 Well, obviously it's an attempt to suppress the truth, but more specifically, I have to 01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:02.730 agree with what the both of you are saying, that it all leads back to the Gospel of Jesus 01:27:02.730 --> 01:27:03.720 Christ. 01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:04.790 I mean, how could it not? 01:27:04.790 --> 01:27:11.880 When the very notion that the Jews killed Jesus is now potentially something that can 01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:17.310 be forbidden to say, that is of course directly related to the Gospel, because it was the 01:27:17.310 --> 01:27:22.940 Jews who killed Jesus Christ, and of course it's His crucifixion, His death, burial and 01:27:22.940 --> 01:27:28.570 resurrection by which we're saved, so there is a direct spiritual element involved here 01:27:28.570 --> 01:27:33.790 in ministers of the devil who want to make people like you and I shut up, and we see 01:27:33.790 --> 01:27:38.380 this in the Bible. In Acts chapter 13 it was the apostle Paul who had to deal with a bunch 01:27:38.380 --> 01:27:45.170 of Jews who were contradicting and blaspheming at verse 45 what he was saying. He had written 01:27:45.170 --> 01:27:50.790 also in 1 Thessalonians 2 that they were forbidding them to speak to the Gentiles. This is something 01:27:50.790 --> 01:27:54.980 we see in the Bible, you brought up going all the way back to the Garden of Eden, and 01:27:54.980 --> 01:28:00.430 of course it's no surprise that it's happening in 2024. Well, and you know, you bring up 01:28:00.430 --> 01:28:05.750 this idea of these "truth seekers" or as we call it over here, maybe the truth movement. 01:28:05.750 --> 01:28:11.580 And of course, that labeling is great. I mean, I think that if you seek the truth, you will 01:28:11.580 --> 01:28:18.590 find Jesus Christ, you will find the ultimate truth of the gospel. But you know, I notice 01:28:18.590 --> 01:28:23.030 other individuals and a big movement today is really emphasizing this idea of America 01:28:23.030 --> 01:28:28.810 first. It's kind of like a nationalistic ideology. And I think I think Nick Flint is probably 01:28:28.810 --> 01:28:35.750 one of the leaders of this. He was put back on Twitter recently. And I'm sure that pissed 01:28:35.750 --> 01:28:41.340 a lot of people off. And I agree in a context with America first, if we're going to say 01:28:41.340 --> 01:28:48.780 about foreign policy, but to me, it really should be gospel first. And then you know, 01:28:48.780 --> 01:28:54.820 my wife, my family, you know, like America's really not as high on the chain for me as 01:28:54.820 --> 01:29:02.650 so many other issues. Well, if I may, in the context of America first versus globalism 01:29:02.650 --> 01:29:07.450 or the new world order, I can totally back America first 100%. Right. I'm saying foreign 01:29:07.450 --> 01:29:13.650 policy. Yes. I get that context. But what I'm trying to point out is it seems like the 01:29:13.650 --> 01:29:19.030 context gets lost a little bit. And then just everything is America first. Like we kind 01:29:19.030 --> 01:29:23.370 of just everything's about that. And that's the only thing we're really thinking about 01:29:23.370 --> 01:29:29.980 and emphasizing and trying to try to propagate. Like he said, you know, you've got Christian 01:29:29.980 --> 01:29:36.920 in your bio, but you're more concerned with foreign policy than you are with the truth 01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:41.760 or with the gospel. Carnal battle over the spiritual. I'm kind of curious. You know, 01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:46.920 again, I think it's great that Nick Fuentes is on on X, not because I necessarily agree 01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:51.900 with things that he says. And it's funny because everybody has to say that, right? Everybody 01:29:51.900 --> 01:29:57.060 has to be like, not always agree with everything that Nick Fuentes says. But it's like, I say 01:29:57.060 --> 01:30:01.140 it for a completely different reason, because I'm sure I agree with him a lot on foreign 01:30:01.140 --> 01:30:05.680 policy and the Jews and that kind of stuff. It's that he's he's a Catholic. Strong, very 01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:10.050 strong, strong Catholic. And again, Catholicism and me don't mix, you know, I've got the 01:30:10.050 --> 01:30:16.550 Baptist bias. And so I'm faith alone by grace alone, whereas they believe in works. But 01:30:16.550 --> 01:30:22.460 I'm kind of curious what your thoughts here are on when Nick Fuentes being back on Twitter. 01:30:22.460 --> 01:30:26.290 Again, I think it's a good thing. I'm just kind of curious what you what you think about 01:30:26.290 --> 01:30:31.140 that, Nick. I guess I'll share the same name. 01:30:31.140 --> 01:30:42.740 Yeah, I'm not massively. Yeah, I'm not massively with Nick Fuentes, to be honest. I know that 01:30:42.740 --> 01:30:51.070 he was suspended or whatever they call it. I saw his interview with Kanye, which I thought 01:30:51.070 --> 01:31:01.090 was hilarious when him and he went on Alex Jones when Kanye West was wearing that mask. 01:31:01.090 --> 01:31:09.030 That was weird. I'm not the best to talk to about Fuentes, to be honest. Yeah, but again, 01:31:09.030 --> 01:31:13.700 you know, specifically when it comes to this America first ideology, and it's kind of a 01:31:13.700 --> 01:31:17.560 nationalistic ideology, I'm sure there's probably people in your neck of the woods that maybe 01:31:17.560 --> 01:31:25.240 have an Australian first viewpoint or something along those lines. And again, from a foreign 01:31:25.240 --> 01:31:30.410 policy, I think every nation should be like that. I agree with Australia first or America 01:31:30.410 --> 01:31:36.600 first from a national polity, from essentially how they govern themselves. But at the same 01:31:36.600 --> 01:31:42.340 time, do you think that sometimes people might get overboard with nationalism, as opposed 01:31:42.340 --> 01:31:48.250 to focusing on maybe some of the spiritual battle that's going on? 01:31:48.250 --> 01:31:57.220 Yeah. Look, I think it's become especially pertinent now because America, ever since 01:31:57.220 --> 01:32:06.190 Trump, you know, Trump wasn't elected in a vacuum, what preceded Trump was a movement 01:32:06.190 --> 01:32:15.920 away from the ideals of America as a constitutional republic under God. Obama really, really hammered 01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:26.560 that home. And along comes Trump, who then starts to restore the rhetoric of America 01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:37.110 first and America's constitutional principles. And really, ever since then, this has created 01:32:37.110 --> 01:32:43.220 a sort of a newfound hope or movement around it. I think it's all to do with Trump. You 01:32:43.220 --> 01:32:49.240 know, I've got criticism of Trump, but I think he's a fascinating guy. And I think he's actually 01:32:49.240 --> 01:32:57.900 quite critical to the West, because America really is the last bastion of a true constitutional 01:32:57.900 --> 01:33:06.390 republic. Everything else has kind of fallen to globalism. And for whatever reason, it's 01:33:06.390 --> 01:33:12.650 extraordinary that Trump is standing in the way of that, and America First is standing 01:33:12.650 --> 01:33:20.000 in the way of that. I think there is some conflation there between people who believe 01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:30.490 that that America First equates to Christianity, but perhaps what they really are thinking 01:33:30.490 --> 01:33:46.670 is Christendom of the West, because if America falls, Western Christendom is done. I think 01:33:46.670 --> 01:34:01.540 it's so important that this point in history that Trump wins, that can't be stolen. It's 01:34:01.540 --> 01:34:09.460 a complicated thing. There are many things at play, but I think that America First really 01:34:09.460 --> 01:34:18.390 means Western Christendom first, but I see your point with nationalism. There's a conflation 01:34:18.390 --> 01:34:24.250 there. I think on the individual level, absolutely, people should be seeking Jesus rather than 01:34:24.250 --> 01:34:32.150 seeking the American flag. That doesn't mean you can't see both. 01:34:32.150 --> 01:34:39.690 Well, what I would bring up, and again, I think if we had the most fair and honest paper 01:34:39.690 --> 01:34:46.660 ballot election, Trump would probably get something stupid, like 100 million votes or 01:34:46.660 --> 01:34:52.550 120 million, which is a lot which is a lot for our specific election. I think he got 01:34:52.550 --> 01:34:59.800 70 this last particular election. He procured the most amount and it was the most ever. 01:34:59.800 --> 01:35:00.800 But still lost. 01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:07.890 And yeah, of course. But so like, I, I don't really think though that, like, there's not 01:35:07.890 --> 01:35:12.750 really anything else I can do, right? Like, I think at this point, especially like 98 01:35:12.750 --> 01:35:18.260 or 99% of people are going to vote for who they're going to vote for. And, and on top 01:35:18.260 --> 01:35:24.180 of that, you know, the powers that be are going to allow those votes to tally up however 01:35:24.180 --> 01:35:28.770 they see fit. And I can't really change that either. But what I can change specifically 01:35:28.770 --> 01:35:38.010 is someone getting saved, someone getting into church, someone getting the sin out of 01:35:38.010 --> 01:35:45.870 their life, someone getting baptized, marriages staying together, and, and just kind of like 01:35:45.870 --> 01:35:50.060 the impact that I can particularly have. And I think that a lot of people they're just 01:35:50.060 --> 01:35:58.420 so invested in just following this news cycle about the nationalism. And it's not to be 01:35:58.420 --> 01:36:04.850 pessimistic. It's more to just be like, I can't really do a lot about it. I think it's 01:36:04.850 --> 01:36:08.500 important for people to keep talking about it and bringing it up and bring awareness. 01:36:08.500 --> 01:36:14.150 Like I grew with the awareness aspect, but like from a daily life perspective, you know, 01:36:14.150 --> 01:36:18.960 I think it's important that we're exercising our first amendment right. I think what's 01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:23.820 important is that instead of just talking about how this anti-Semitism builds bad, people 01:36:23.820 --> 01:36:28.850 actually are saying stuff like they're walking around and walking up to people saying, Hey, 01:36:28.850 --> 01:36:34.280 the Jews killed Jesus or church is preaching this because, you know, if literally every 01:36:34.280 --> 01:36:38.170 single church and every individual and every citizen saying this, like they're going to 01:36:38.170 --> 01:36:42.650 have a hard time enforcing that. Right. I mean, if, if, you know, if everybody, but 01:36:42.650 --> 01:36:47.010 again, if we're just all talking about how bad it is and we're not really doing anything 01:36:47.010 --> 01:36:51.670 with it, if we're not actually exercising our rights, I fear that it doesn't really 01:36:51.670 --> 01:36:55.080 matter how much we talk about it. I think what's important is for people to actually 01:36:55.080 --> 01:37:00.930 exercise their rights. And it might even be more important now than ever to take every 01:37:00.930 --> 01:37:05.800 single narrative. They're saying we can't say and say it double down. I think Scott 01:37:05.800 --> 01:37:09.260 Adams did that. I think Scott said like, whatever they say, I can't say I'm going to say it 01:37:09.260 --> 01:37:13.880 a hundred times or something like that. And I don't even, I don't even know much about 01:37:13.880 --> 01:37:19.710 Scott Adams, but he just, he has some funny takes every once in a while. And I saw one 01:37:19.710 --> 01:37:25.250 where he was commenting about this anti-Semitism bill. He was fired up. Do you know, do you 01:37:25.250 --> 01:37:36.600 know who that is? Yeah, Dilbert. Yeah. Is that popular in Australia? I think it, not 01:37:36.600 --> 01:37:42.460 so much, but we used to get it on one of the Comedy Central or something like that years 01:37:42.460 --> 01:37:48.340 ago. Oh, okay. That's fine. I didn't even really know who that was until he got canceled. 01:37:48.340 --> 01:37:53.350 I think like every newspaper in America canceled him simultaneously or something like that. 01:37:53.350 --> 01:38:00.860 Just to show you how many newspapers we have in America, one. Yeah. I want to throw it 01:38:00.860 --> 01:38:04.010 over to Ben. Do you have a question? It looks like you're chomping at the bit maybe. Is 01:38:04.010 --> 01:38:07.720 there some kind of question or article you're wanting to share here? Oh, no. I'm just listening 01:38:07.720 --> 01:38:13.940 into what you guys are talking about. I think it's great to see, Nick, that you bring up 01:38:13.940 --> 01:38:19.160 the importance of the spiritual battle as well, and that's not something that we should 01:38:19.160 --> 01:38:25.060 be forgetting about. When it comes to Donald Trump specifically though, and you kind of 01:38:25.060 --> 01:38:33.590 talk about his impact on the West and you argue his importance, for me, I look at the 01:38:33.590 --> 01:38:40.520 movement that surrounds Trump, and I almost think that perhaps it's the movement that's 01:38:40.520 --> 01:38:45.020 maybe even more important because it'll be the movement that sticks around long after 01:38:45.020 --> 01:38:50.150 Donald Trump is gone, a movement of people that I can greatly sympathize with who just 01:38:50.150 --> 01:38:54.970 want borders, who just want normalcy, who just want to be left alone. 01:38:54.970 --> 01:39:03.050 And so could you speak to this MAGA movement, and has it had any interconnectedness over 01:39:03.050 --> 01:39:04.020 in Australia? 01:39:04.020 --> 01:39:08.830 Yeah, I think that's right. 01:39:08.830 --> 01:39:10.710 Yeah, Donald Trump represents something. 01:39:10.710 --> 01:39:21.800 I think his personality was such that it was almost like the stick that needed to be jammed 01:39:21.800 --> 01:39:25.110 in the spoke, you know, in the wheel. 01:39:25.110 --> 01:39:31.270 And it's had an impact down here, and it's had an impact around Western countries, I 01:39:31.270 --> 01:39:34.370 think, in general. 01:39:34.370 --> 01:39:35.310 It's a phenomenon. 01:39:35.310 --> 01:39:44.540 I think he came around the time when cancel culture and everything was really starting 01:39:44.540 --> 01:39:49.290 to grind on people. 01:39:49.290 --> 01:39:54.600 And now it's at a point where immigration and some of these much larger things are really 01:39:54.600 --> 01:40:01.490 starting to have real world consequences on countries. 01:40:01.490 --> 01:40:07.950 Our country is just out of control and prior to that, we saw what happened with European 01:40:07.950 --> 01:40:08.960 countries. 01:40:08.960 --> 01:40:15.700 We're starting to experience it here now. 01:40:15.700 --> 01:40:23.100 So I don't know what whatever that MAGA, whatever that kind of movement or thing is. 01:40:23.100 --> 01:40:31.140 I know a lot of people that political people that love Trump, they don't read a lot of 01:40:31.140 --> 01:40:32.120 news and stuff. 01:40:32.120 --> 01:40:33.090 They just love it. 01:40:33.090 --> 01:40:34.070 They just love him. 01:40:34.070 --> 01:40:35.700 They just go, "Oh yeah, he's brilliant." 01:40:35.700 --> 01:40:38.310 Because he just hits something that they like. 01:40:38.310 --> 01:40:44.240 And I think it's that he's a bigger bully than all of these other bullies, right? 01:40:44.240 --> 01:40:50.750 All of these news networks and these slimy politicians and stuff. 01:40:50.750 --> 01:41:01.320 And people like a fighter, they like a winner, they like someone that fights back. 01:41:01.320 --> 01:41:10.740 I think that we'll reflect on this probably more clearly in a decade or so, this whole 01:41:10.740 --> 01:41:14.200 thing that's going on right now. 01:41:14.200 --> 01:41:15.150 If we're still here. 01:41:15.150 --> 01:41:19.610 But clearly there's some, yeah, yeah, yeah, climate change. 01:41:19.610 --> 01:41:22.960 You got to like Trump been because he did WWE. 01:41:22.960 --> 01:41:28.900 He's a, he's, you know, that's, that's why I think, I think he's the greatest entertainer 01:41:28.900 --> 01:41:29.880 on the planet. 01:41:29.880 --> 01:41:30.850 I love his rallies. 01:41:30.850 --> 01:41:32.410 They're awesome. 01:41:32.410 --> 01:41:33.390 I'd love to go to one man. 01:41:33.390 --> 01:41:36.010 I think it'd be, I've been to them multiple times. 01:41:36.010 --> 01:41:37.050 I will hear. 01:41:37.050 --> 01:41:41.860 I want to comment on your point though, before you say this, because this is what I do think. 01:41:41.860 --> 01:41:43.870 And I kind of agree with y'all. 01:41:43.870 --> 01:41:47.940 That's been powerful about Trump is his endorsement. 01:41:47.940 --> 01:41:54.500 So and that's been an important thing that I think is maybe been underutilized, but specifically 01:41:54.500 --> 01:41:59.860 if Trump endorses a particular local candidate, some of these lower level candidates, they 01:41:59.860 --> 01:42:06.100 almost seem to have just a very, very easy opportunity to win. 01:42:06.100 --> 01:42:12.040 And it's like kind of that lightning rod to bring in some better politicians across the 01:42:12.040 --> 01:42:13.010 board. 01:42:13.010 --> 01:42:14.580 And I feel like that's what we need. 01:42:14.580 --> 01:42:21.000 A lot more than even just the president is we almost need an overhaul of local, state, 01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:26.840 and all kinds of different individuals across America to take all kinds of different political 01:42:26.840 --> 01:42:27.810 office. 01:42:27.810 --> 01:42:31.430 Now, I don't necessarily agree with all of Trump's endorsements or the people that he's 01:42:31.430 --> 01:42:38.550 brought, but I feel like that power is almost just as important as even taking the presidency 01:42:38.550 --> 01:42:44.660 itself is by, because again, we still have certain checks and balances and we have in 01:42:44.660 --> 01:42:51.380 theory a constitutional republic, and the president is going to be more or less a figurehead 01:42:51.380 --> 01:42:56.940 if literally every other political office is wielded by other individuals that have 01:42:56.940 --> 01:42:57.920 different ideologies. 01:42:57.920 --> 01:43:03.140 I mean, in fact, even the president himself could be completely off the wall and Congress 01:43:03.140 --> 01:43:06.770 could constantly pass things over his head and do whatever they want if they have a two-thirds 01:43:06.770 --> 01:43:07.760 majority. 01:43:07.760 --> 01:43:16.220 So it seems like specifically to me that wielding that power of that local influence is a big 01:43:16.220 --> 01:43:17.210 deal. 01:43:17.210 --> 01:43:22.730 And I wonder if even the gag order, because a lot of people would speculate that the election 01:43:22.730 --> 01:43:23.710 was a fraud. 01:43:23.710 --> 01:43:29.120 I believe that they pointed out how a lot of candidates that Trump endorsed on the lower 01:43:29.120 --> 01:43:30.100 levels, they all won. 01:43:30.100 --> 01:43:32.130 And he was very vocal about that. 01:43:32.130 --> 01:43:38.110 I'm wondering if by gagging him, he doesn't really have that power to also downstream 01:43:38.110 --> 01:43:43.820 ticket, get a lot of these other people elected and talk about them and endorse them. 01:43:43.820 --> 01:43:50.360 I'm kind of curious, what do you think about the downstream ticket power that Trump wields? 01:43:50.360 --> 01:43:51.610 Is there something going on there? 01:43:51.610 --> 01:43:55.140 Is this gag order against him stopping some of that, Ben? 01:43:55.140 --> 01:43:56.900 What do you think about? 01:43:56.900 --> 01:44:01.480 Well, it's stopping him from making an impact everywhere, including in the political arena 01:44:01.480 --> 01:44:02.990 that you described. 01:44:02.990 --> 01:44:10.120 I lived in Florida during the race for governor between Andrew Gillum, who was later exposed 01:44:10.120 --> 01:44:17.070 as a pervert homo who got caught in a hotel room—just a filthy, disgusting story—and 01:44:17.070 --> 01:44:21.500 Ron DeSantis, and it was Trump's endorsement of DeSantis that put him over the edge. 01:44:21.500 --> 01:44:26.600 Now, DeSantis, of course, recently, I would say didn't turn out to be the governor that 01:44:26.600 --> 01:44:30.980 I hoped he would be, however, it still demonstrated the power you're talking about. 01:44:30.980 --> 01:44:35.090 Nick Holt, what do you think about the point there raised by Pastor Shelley? 01:44:35.090 --> 01:44:40.380 Yeah, well, I mean, he's still coming. 01:44:40.380 --> 01:44:43.530 I watched two of his rallies the other day. 01:44:43.530 --> 01:44:48.190 He's gagged, and then he comes out and talks about how it's hilarious. 01:44:48.190 --> 01:44:53.530 He comes out of court, gives a press conference about how corrupt the judge is, and then he 01:44:53.530 --> 01:45:00.710 gets on his jet, does two rallies where he's calling the case bullshit. 01:45:00.710 --> 01:45:04.430 It's just business as usual with his rallies. 01:45:04.430 --> 01:45:11.470 The guy's unbelievable, man, just regardless of whether you agree with his politics or 01:45:11.470 --> 01:45:12.460 not. 01:45:12.460 --> 01:45:13.530 He's a phenomenal human being. 01:45:13.530 --> 01:45:16.950 So I don't think it's having that much of an effect because he's going out and he's 01:45:16.950 --> 01:45:19.590 still endorsing candidates. 01:45:19.590 --> 01:45:22.180 His rallies haven't slowed down. 01:45:22.180 --> 01:45:25.830 He just says, "Now I have to do two of these a day because of this bullshit case that's 01:45:25.830 --> 01:45:26.810 going on right now." 01:45:26.810 --> 01:45:29.860 Well, he definitely has an interesting narrative. 01:45:29.860 --> 01:45:34.830 And I think that a lot of people like the underdog, they like the guy that's sticking 01:45:34.830 --> 01:45:36.770 it to the man. 01:45:36.770 --> 01:45:43.110 And I think that a lot of people, even that may not like Trump, can kind of get entertainment 01:45:43.110 --> 01:45:45.360 value or enjoy some of those things. 01:45:45.360 --> 01:45:50.580 I know that when he was calling out the press or making fun of them or different things 01:45:50.580 --> 01:45:54.120 like that during his presidency, it was kind of hard not to like the guy for some of the 01:45:54.120 --> 01:45:55.990 things that he said. 01:45:55.990 --> 01:46:00.060 But at the same time, he did do some horrible things in my mind. 01:46:00.060 --> 01:46:02.150 He did bring in the COVID lockdowns here. 01:46:02.150 --> 01:46:05.140 He did bring in the COVID shots here. 01:46:05.140 --> 01:46:08.620 His social issues are pretty rough from my perspective. 01:46:08.620 --> 01:46:12.910 But again, from a foreign policy, from an economic perspective, I think that he has 01:46:12.910 --> 01:46:15.190 a lot of good viewpoints. 01:46:15.190 --> 01:46:16.910 He kind of gets it. 01:46:16.910 --> 01:46:21.780 So he kind of seems like to me, honestly, like what a Democrat is supposed to be, you 01:46:21.780 --> 01:46:27.110 know, even though he's considered Republican, he's almost like truly a Democrat in my mind. 01:46:27.110 --> 01:46:28.100 Classical liberal. 01:46:28.100 --> 01:46:29.090 Yeah. 01:46:29.090 --> 01:46:30.080 Kind of a mix. 01:46:30.080 --> 01:46:34.060 Obviously he's not perfectly Democratic or from that tribe. 01:46:34.060 --> 01:46:35.030 Yeah. 01:46:35.030 --> 01:46:43.120 I mean, I think for me with Trump, there's four issues where he's just complete garbage. 01:46:43.120 --> 01:46:46.710 You brought up, I think for COVID, it's mostly the vaccine issue. 01:46:46.710 --> 01:46:51.610 I'm not going to blame him too much on the lockdown because, frankly, everyone shut down 01:46:51.610 --> 01:46:56.280 at first and then reopened later when they figured out what was really going on. 01:46:56.280 --> 01:46:58.180 So you know, it's not a huge deal for me. 01:46:58.180 --> 01:47:00.480 I think he probably should have fired Fauci though for sure. 01:47:00.480 --> 01:47:03.620 But these are the four issues really that I have a big problem. 01:47:03.620 --> 01:47:06.360 He's not hardcore enough on abortion for me. 01:47:06.360 --> 01:47:10.330 He's not hardcore enough on the LGBT agenda and the defiling of our children with the 01:47:10.330 --> 01:47:12.950 transgender drag queen garbage. 01:47:12.950 --> 01:47:14.850 He's not hardcore enough on the vaccines at all. 01:47:14.850 --> 01:47:22.640 In fact, he supports them, and he's pro-Israel and very much a Zionist, 150%. 01:47:22.640 --> 01:47:27.390 Now, here's what's different about Trump, though, and I will give him credit here, which 01:47:27.390 --> 01:47:30.070 is that I think he's unique. 01:47:30.070 --> 01:47:36.310 I do believe he is unique in terms of a politician, and I think he's unique in this sense that 01:47:36.310 --> 01:47:41.860 if his base is responsible enough to hold his feet to the fire on some of these issues 01:47:41.860 --> 01:47:49.170 that I brought up, maybe instead of there being a 0% chance that he'll ever change, 01:47:49.170 --> 01:47:53.460 maybe there's a small, maybe 5, 10% chance, whatever the case may be, but I think there's 01:47:53.460 --> 01:48:00.920 still a greater than 0% chance that he might listen if his base makes a loud enough appeal 01:48:00.920 --> 01:48:07.870 to him to get it right on some of these issues, and that may be where he's different than 01:48:07.870 --> 01:48:10.370 your prototypical conservative. 01:48:10.370 --> 01:48:11.340 I don't know. 01:48:11.340 --> 01:48:12.320 I could be totally wrong. 01:48:12.320 --> 01:48:14.340 Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but that's how I feel. 01:48:14.340 --> 01:48:17.540 What about with free speech specifically, and it'd be interesting to get both of y'all's 01:48:17.540 --> 01:48:18.530 opinion. 01:48:18.530 --> 01:48:24.590 Do you think that Trump is a threat to free speech, considering that he leans towards 01:48:24.590 --> 01:48:28.870 Israel and the Zionism angle? 01:48:28.870 --> 01:48:31.940 Do you think he's going to allow this particular new bill to stand? 01:48:31.940 --> 01:48:33.580 I'd like to see him come out against the bill. 01:48:33.580 --> 01:48:34.570 He has not done so. 01:48:34.570 --> 01:48:36.970 I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it. 01:48:36.970 --> 01:48:38.320 Interested to get Nick's perspective. 01:48:38.320 --> 01:48:42.200 Yeah, me too. 01:48:42.200 --> 01:48:47.150 Someone like Gates or one of his underlings. 01:48:47.150 --> 01:48:56.470 So this is the problem, Trump holds a bit of a cult-like fanaticism amongst the people 01:48:56.470 --> 01:48:58.690 that he endorses. 01:48:58.690 --> 01:49:03.620 I would say someone like Kari Lake, who I've interviewed twice and I think is a good person, 01:49:03.620 --> 01:49:09.450 but I think she would never do it, but I would like to see her hold him to the fire of this 01:49:09.450 --> 01:49:12.520 anti-Semitism bill. 01:49:12.520 --> 01:49:15.340 Are you going to, can you denounce this? 01:49:15.340 --> 01:49:17.640 Someone needs to do that. 01:49:17.640 --> 01:49:24.490 I don't think he's a, I think he'll be okay with, you know, he's speaking, the question 01:49:24.490 --> 01:49:25.470 is will he go through? 01:49:25.470 --> 01:49:31.090 He's speaking very strongly in these rallies at the moment about, you know, on day one 01:49:31.090 --> 01:49:37.640 men will never enter another women's locker room. 01:49:37.640 --> 01:49:40.310 He's talking like, he's saying a lot of this stuff. 01:49:40.310 --> 01:49:43.840 His rhetoric has gone up quite a few notches. 01:49:43.840 --> 01:49:48.490 He's sort of gone quiet on his rail. 01:49:48.490 --> 01:49:57.480 But I think, you know, what he's talking about the most from what I've sort of worked 01:49:57.480 --> 01:50:01.040 out is that he's talking about the border the most. 01:50:01.040 --> 01:50:07.200 Which seems to me that that's really your, would you agree that that's probably the biggest 01:50:07.200 --> 01:50:10.540 threat to America right now is your southern border? 01:50:10.540 --> 01:50:15.660 Well, I don't know if it necessarily is or not. 01:50:15.660 --> 01:50:19.770 But here's, and again, I don't want to be too conspiratorial. 01:50:19.770 --> 01:50:25.440 But the thing is, is like, there's this shenanigan where Greg Abbott, who's the governor of Texas, 01:50:25.440 --> 01:50:30.760 was literally shipping tons of these illegals all over the country. 01:50:30.760 --> 01:50:35.150 And they're trying to do it as if it's like somehow sticking it to Democrats or something. 01:50:35.150 --> 01:50:41.220 But you know, a lot of people have reported and seen all these like immigrants and migrants 01:50:41.220 --> 01:50:46.290 on planes, on buses, all kinds of things, being transported everywhere, getting debit 01:50:46.290 --> 01:50:50.170 cards, being housed in specific places. 01:50:50.170 --> 01:50:57.030 And you know, in my view, no matter how radical the Democrats or the Congress or the house 01:50:57.030 --> 01:51:02.220 is, they're not going to convince the US Army or military to infringe on the constitutional 01:51:02.220 --> 01:51:05.440 rights of the American people by and large. 01:51:05.440 --> 01:51:08.550 There's probably some people in there that are like that. 01:51:08.550 --> 01:51:17.440 But if you brought in a foreign national migrant army and you authorize them to have the power 01:51:17.440 --> 01:51:24.670 to basically take the constitutional rights away from Americans and kind of to a military 01:51:24.670 --> 01:51:30.210 coup, then that would be, I mean, that would almost be like for sure a direct threat. 01:51:30.210 --> 01:51:34.700 Like that might be one of the most important threats to our specific country. 01:51:34.700 --> 01:51:43.690 I don't think that necessarily just migrants being here is necessarily that as big an issue 01:51:43.690 --> 01:51:47.330 as things like how much money we're printing and giving to Ukraine, how much money we're 01:51:47.330 --> 01:51:53.420 printing and giving to Israel, specifically just like insider trading that's allowed 01:51:53.420 --> 01:51:57.850 in our Congress, the fact that our voting doesn't seem to be legitimate whatsoever 01:51:57.850 --> 01:52:02.880 specifically, or you could just argue about interest rates, the Fed. 01:52:02.880 --> 01:52:11.890 I mean, we have a lot of specific issues that I mean, to me to say the border is the biggest 01:52:11.890 --> 01:52:18.760 problem, I think only if there really was this like, kind of under the radar secret 01:52:18.760 --> 01:52:23.170 army that's being brought in, would that potentially be the number one issue. 01:52:23.170 --> 01:52:27.060 And again, I'm sure Trump has more insight and more knowledge about all these things. 01:52:27.060 --> 01:52:28.290 The human trafficking is good. 01:52:28.290 --> 01:52:30.670 Yeah, human trafficking is obviously a horrible aspect too. 01:52:30.670 --> 01:52:31.670 Through the border. 01:52:31.670 --> 01:52:37.630 I mean, the border, whether or not it's the most important, it's a major issue. 01:52:37.630 --> 01:52:43.130 Like to me, it's like if you got shot in the arm, knifed in the stomach, and your legs 01:52:43.130 --> 01:52:46.170 on fire, it's like which of those is the most important. 01:52:46.170 --> 01:52:52.530 It's like all of those are just so bad and important to deal with immediately that it's 01:52:52.530 --> 01:52:54.610 just kind of insane. 01:52:54.610 --> 01:52:59.660 Like it almost seems like, and it doesn't even seem like it, I believe it. 01:52:59.660 --> 01:53:05.990 I feel like the Democratic Party is purposely trying to destroy America in almost every 01:53:05.990 --> 01:53:06.980 way possible. 01:53:06.980 --> 01:53:13.740 Like it just feels like they're doing everything they could possibly think of to literally 01:53:13.740 --> 01:53:18.750 weaken and destroy our nation and I think multiple enemies of the United States are 01:53:18.750 --> 01:53:25.990 probably fine with that and just thinking like let's keep it going and you know obviously 01:53:25.990 --> 01:53:29.530 a lot of these people are bought off by foreign governments. 01:53:29.530 --> 01:53:34.940 Obviously China has a hand in there, Russia potentially has some dealings. 01:53:34.940 --> 01:53:42.280 We see of course NATO, we see Israel, I almost you know the Bible describes in the end times 01:53:42.280 --> 01:53:48.700 there's a specific nation called the whore, the Babylon, the great whore and it almost 01:53:48.700 --> 01:53:53.340 feels like that is America being described in the book of Revelation and it's like we're 01:53:53.340 --> 01:54:01.050 a whore and we're just being used and abused by China, Russia, NATO, Ukraine, by Israel, 01:54:01.050 --> 01:54:07.230 by a lot of different individuals and of course I would argue that maybe Israel's you know 01:54:07.230 --> 01:54:11.990 controlling us maybe the most but I think it would be unfair to say that they're the 01:54:11.990 --> 01:54:17.200 only ones that are doing things to America or having some kind of influence. 01:54:17.200 --> 01:54:22.380 I think it's a multifaceted you know problem box. 01:54:22.380 --> 01:54:25.580 I'm kind of curious from your perspective I know you're you're not here but from your 01:54:25.580 --> 01:54:29.900 perspective is the open border seem like the biggest deal to you or do you feel like there's 01:54:29.900 --> 01:54:33.760 other more pressing issues? 01:54:33.760 --> 01:54:49.310 Yeah I mean I guess you make I think that it's difficult to operate a nation with a 01:54:49.310 --> 01:54:55.360 without any kind of border without knowing who's coming in and out and if the figures 01:54:55.360 --> 01:54:59.990 that would be believed you know you're around you're sitting around the 10 million mark 01:54:59.990 --> 01:55:10.660 now of undocumented illegal immigrants since Biden was elect well since Biden became president 01:55:10.660 --> 01:55:20.080 that's a lot of people yeah and the question is if you don't know who those people are 01:55:20.080 --> 01:55:29.600 then you're looking at all sorts of as Trump said sort of bad hombres yeah but I'm not 01:55:29.600 --> 01:55:34.890 convinced that Trump so Trump is let's let's think about this Trump's saying that on day 01:55:34.890 --> 01:55:45.030 one of his presidency he's going to begin the biggest mass deportation you know in us 01:55:45.030 --> 01:55:50.770 history he likes to say these big statements the biggest deportation in the history of 01:55:50.770 --> 01:55:57.440 deportations and everyone cheers right yeah but he doesn't actually explain how I can't 01:55:57.440 --> 01:56:02.380 see that how's that gonna happen right I mean what happens when the new yeah what happens 01:56:02.380 --> 01:56:08.880 when the news channels show the first family being broken up right if that starts happening 01:56:08.880 --> 01:56:18.380 America is going to become a very turbulent place more than more so than it even has been 01:56:18.380 --> 01:56:24.860 so so I can't see smooth sailing ahead if even if Trump gets elected in that in that 01:56:24.860 --> 01:56:35.170 realm of the border so maybe he is just appeasing people in that regard but I mean again I don't 01:56:35.170 --> 01:56:39.760 I don't know what's going on there if there was a secret military that's bringing brought 01:56:39.760 --> 01:56:44.160 in then we would have to use our military forces and it could be ugly to dissolve that 01:56:44.160 --> 01:56:49.880 but assuming that that's not the case I don't think we need to do mass deportation what 01:56:49.880 --> 01:56:54.840 would fix our country instantly would just be simply to take the biblical laws that we 01:56:54.840 --> 01:56:59.800 have in the Bible and just enforce them and I think that the immigration problem would 01:56:59.800 --> 01:57:02.850 see would solve itself tomorrow. 01:57:02.850 --> 01:57:06.140 Of course I don't think we should be continuing to allow people to just come across from seeing 01:57:06.140 --> 01:57:09.920 the people that are already here if you know murderers are put to death rapists are put 01:57:09.920 --> 01:57:16.510 to death kidnappers are put to death like the Bible says then you know and we actually 01:57:16.510 --> 01:57:22.380 truly enforced that then I think that you know the the extra people that have been brought 01:57:22.380 --> 01:57:27.910 across while it would cause some you know discomfort it would mostly resolve itself 01:57:27.910 --> 01:57:34.180 over time as long as we're not just allowing a continual mass migration or we you know 01:57:34.180 --> 01:57:39.820 we kind of stop the bleeding I think we could have we could heal over time it's just stop 01:57:39.820 --> 01:57:45.900 giving them money stop giving them handouts and enforce you know capital punishment laws 01:57:45.900 --> 01:57:50.410 and it would really solve itself I think in five ten years I don't think we would even 01:57:50.410 --> 01:57:56.210 have to worry about you know deporting anybody I don't know what your thoughts are on that 01:57:56.210 --> 01:58:03.390 Ben well it'll weed out all the bad actors and I think that's your point that once you 01:58:03.390 --> 01:58:10.280 enact these biblical laws you're in a sense you're in a sense eliminating the murderers 01:58:10.280 --> 01:58:14.830 you're eliminating those criminals who've come across the border and exploited the open 01:58:14.830 --> 01:58:20.650 border to bring harm to America so it makes sense to me now there's a question though 01:58:20.650 --> 01:58:29.040 pastor Shelley of amnesty or not yeah again like Nick to Nick's point I mean let's say 01:58:29.040 --> 01:58:34.300 you have 10 million people that have crossed the border we probably had and I don't I don't 01:58:34.300 --> 01:58:39.970 even know what the numbers are I'm just gonna throw out there a number 15 20 million people 01:58:39.970 --> 01:58:47.070 that were already in America that were illegally here that were prior to this mass migration 01:58:47.070 --> 01:58:55.650 most recently so you know if you're talking about trying to eliminate 25 million people 01:58:55.650 --> 01:59:01.480 or something like that from our country first of all how where how deportation to be yeah 01:59:01.480 --> 01:59:07.700 like you're gonna disrupt the economy greatly like it really just doesn't make a lot of 01:59:07.700 --> 01:59:12.550 sense and it would be a big effort what are the logistics what are you gonna do when you 01:59:12.550 --> 01:59:16.260 have that many people just what are you gonna just like put them five feet across the border 01:59:16.260 --> 01:59:21.840 into Mexico and then like and then what's gonna happen and like is Mexico gonna really 01:59:21.840 --> 01:59:29.070 appreciate that if we literally just say like hey here's 25 million people like they don't 01:59:29.070 --> 01:59:36.260 even have the food and the resources to greatly even take care of themselves plus they have 01:59:36.260 --> 01:59:40.410 their cartels and all kinds of stuff going on over there like you would also just basically 01:59:40.410 --> 01:59:45.720 be sentencing people to death by just I mean you'd be literally marching people to their 01:59:45.720 --> 01:59:52.860 deaths by just doing such an act so in some regard if you care for human life and you 01:59:52.860 --> 01:59:57.630 care about the Bible I think the damage is done like I said you got to just seal the 01:59:57.630 --> 02:00:06.970 border today you know stop the bleeding now and essentially stop giving them money and 02:00:06.970 --> 02:00:13.760 force biblical laws and I think that that's going to have the least negative impact overall 02:00:13.760 --> 02:00:20.530 but you know again I'm not running for president I am over 35 but you know I'm not going to 02:00:20.530 --> 02:00:26.880 run I don't worship Satan or anything like that so it's gonna be hard for me to campaign 02:00:26.880 --> 02:00:31.410 I don't know from your perspective what do you think about my foreign policy here Nick 02:00:31.410 --> 02:00:37.820 would I get a domestic well I guess okay let's kind of both right isn't borders a foreign 02:00:37.820 --> 02:00:50.380 issue a foreign policy issue it can yeah look go ahead as as you said let's think about 02:00:50.380 --> 02:00:55.140 the logistics of this how are you going to find these people let's talk about say the 02:00:55.140 --> 02:01:00.020 criminals that have been leaving Venezuela and some of these other Central American countries 02:01:00.020 --> 02:01:03.190 how are you going to find these people are you going to have military on the streets 02:01:03.190 --> 02:01:07.740 you're going to change America you're going to change the optics of America to for the 02:01:07.740 --> 02:01:15.680 citizens it's going to be almost a martial law type situation which will make the president 02:01:15.680 --> 02:01:22.030 have to go outside of constitutional realms which is almost dictatorial which isn't going 02:01:22.030 --> 02:01:33.140 to happen so I think that's the only I think the only way is to stop it as quickly as possible 02:01:33.140 --> 02:01:42.850 and then try and reinstate law and order into your country I don't say that like it's we've 02:01:42.850 --> 02:01:47.450 got it down pat because it's probably worse here but you can't have a country without 02:01:47.450 --> 02:01:53.280 a border and without law and order with you know courts that are letting these people 02:01:53.280 --> 02:02:00.130 back out the next day and some of these people are convicted murderers from central second 02:02:00.130 --> 02:02:07.090 world third world countries not that that makes them any worse a murderer than a first 02:02:07.090 --> 02:02:14.050 world murderer but there there there's no justice in play so you have a number of things 02:02:14.050 --> 02:02:20.950 that need to be fixed we have and the same in our country but we're talking about America 02:02:20.950 --> 02:02:34.840 here there are there is rot in all the institutions right yeah the justice law and order universities 02:02:34.840 --> 02:02:40.420 and this has been a slow march you know i think it's interesting that the topic of this 02:02:40.420 --> 02:02:50.550 show today is you know is free speech under attack well it's i think we've clearly unearthed 02:02:50.550 --> 02:02:55.860 it's evident that we've moved beyond debating whether free speech is under attack it's been 02:02:55.860 --> 02:03:01.790 under attack and undermined and curtailed and criminalized and prosecuted for quite 02:03:01.790 --> 02:03:08.690 a long time now it's been a mission creep a slow march and in that process institutions 02:03:08.690 --> 02:03:18.000 have become eroded and corruption has set in and to land on your previous point about 02:03:18.000 --> 02:03:23.940 you thought that maybe the democrats are actively trying to destroy america i don't know whether 02:03:23.940 --> 02:03:29.100 they're actively trying to destroy america it's just that america is being destroyed 02:03:29.100 --> 02:03:34.940 because of them because they are so corrupt you know they are so beholden to foreign interest 02:03:34.940 --> 02:03:40.390 in their own corruption that they don't see what's happening to the decay of their own 02:03:40.390 --> 02:03:47.650 country and this has been happening over a number of years so it's a it's a huge task 02:03:47.650 --> 02:03:55.500 yeah i think that's a great point huge task huge huge we're gonna build a wall folks big 02:03:55.500 --> 02:04:00.940 beautiful door well i i agree like the the democrats themselves aren't necessarily purposely 02:04:00.940 --> 02:04:09.130 destroying america i'm saying like china is trying to destroy america and they're paying 02:04:09.130 --> 02:04:16.140 off politicians and then giving those politicians marching orders that would inevitably cause 02:04:16.140 --> 02:04:21.030 destruction towards america so they're a vessel by which they're being used through corruption 02:04:21.030 --> 02:04:25.730 through bribery through blackmail through pretty much kind of everything you can imagine 02:04:25.730 --> 02:04:33.520 extortion to essentially enact or bring about policies decisions things that are destructive 02:04:33.520 --> 02:04:38.520 towards our country and to be specific to you i i would grant amnesty because you know 02:04:38.520 --> 02:04:43.730 it's frustrating is the fact that we have probably millions of people that just simply 02:04:43.730 --> 02:04:48.070 want a better life for themselves they come to america and they can't get a job because 02:04:48.070 --> 02:04:51.960 they don't have the amnesty they don't have the citizenship they can't just fill out the 02:04:51.960 --> 02:04:56.210 w-2 because they're illegal they don't have the social security card so they have to 02:04:56.210 --> 02:05:03.090 do illegal activities or do things that aren't right just money off the table you know under 02:05:03.090 --> 02:05:09.160 the table to basically essentially try to survive and exist in our society and if we 02:05:09.160 --> 02:05:14.570 just granted them all amnesty that would help the law-abiding immigrants the ones that aren't 02:05:14.570 --> 02:05:17.620 going to break or aren't going to follow the law they already don't care about that they're 02:05:17.620 --> 02:05:21.110 not going to get a w-2 job they're not going to help society or any of those things and 02:05:21.110 --> 02:05:26.610 really what we've done is we've actually created a slave class in america because if you think 02:05:26.610 --> 02:05:32.110 about slaves in general you think of slaves as not having rights not having freedom not 02:05:32.110 --> 02:05:36.520 being able to do what they want and it's it's kind of what we've done with the immigrants 02:05:36.520 --> 02:05:40.880 is they're kind of this pseudo slave class where they're the ones and let's think about 02:05:40.880 --> 02:05:45.650 it what are hispanics that come across the border that aren't legal what do they do 02:05:45.650 --> 02:05:52.000 they mow lawns they work in the kitchens they work in construction they work in some of 02:05:52.000 --> 02:05:57.600 the most laborious difficult activities and they're all paid cash under the table and 02:05:57.600 --> 02:06:02.050 we basically just imported a new slave class and it's interesting how the democrats are 02:06:02.050 --> 02:06:06.590 so against slavery but of course they don't want to talk about the fact they've literally 02:06:06.590 --> 02:06:13.990 imported just a giant hispanic slave class into america the housekeepers the whatever 02:06:13.990 --> 02:06:17.930 you know basically just all the slave type jobs that you would think of in society have 02:06:17.930 --> 02:06:22.880 been replaced by them and really the the best thing to do would be to grant all of them 02:06:22.880 --> 02:06:28.140 that amnesty citizenship give them an ability to actually have a higher paying job contribute 02:06:28.140 --> 02:06:32.830 to society and you know change the tax a lot of where they actually have to pay some taxes 02:06:32.830 --> 02:06:36.210 a lot of these people are just taking advantage of the tax system taking advantage of welfare 02:06:36.210 --> 02:06:40.720 and a lot of these other programs because they're not legal they're not essentially 02:06:40.720 --> 02:06:47.400 on in the system and really it would also in my mind help identify the difference between 02:06:47.400 --> 02:06:53.260 the honest good people and you know the rapist or as Donald Trump would say they're not bringing 02:06:53.260 --> 02:06:58.990 their best folks the rapists you know whatever whatever I can't do the Trump impersonation 02:06:58.990 --> 02:07:06.500 like your friend you've got the best Trump impersonator they're bringing crime they're 02:07:06.500 --> 02:07:18.930 rapists and some of them are good people that is not bad at all excuse me excuse me yeah 02:07:18.930 --> 02:07:25.290 you had somebody on your podcast it's like a great impersonator who's that guy Sean Farish 02:07:25.290 --> 02:07:30.940 Sean Farish yeah Sean Farish he's brilliant so good oh man we need to get that guy we 02:07:30.940 --> 02:07:37.060 need to get Trump on the show let's get Trump on through him he'd be up for it he's a good 02:07:37.060 --> 02:07:44.890 guy yeah he's done the impression in front of Trump yeah I saw the video on it yeah he 02:07:44.890 --> 02:07:52.860 introduced him that's funny well I do want to throw it back to you if there's something 02:07:52.860 --> 02:07:55.760 that we haven't covered or there's something else you wanted to bring up I want to give 02:07:55.760 --> 02:07:59.220 you an opportunity here I know you've been on the stream you've been gracious to give 02:07:59.220 --> 02:08:04.600 us a lot of your time is there anything else that you wanted to bring up you gave us a 02:08:04.600 --> 02:08:13.650 pretty good summary already I think we've covered a pretty good good good range here 02:08:13.650 --> 02:08:22.450 I'll I'll eagerly anticipate a letter from my government oh man and assisting me yeah 02:08:22.450 --> 02:08:27.360 sorry for anti-Semitism and a range of and a range of other naughty things well if you 02:08:27.360 --> 02:08:31.900 think that if you think that you're toxic we're a lot more toxic than you could ever 02:08:31.900 --> 02:08:37.280 be so just appearing on the show would have been enough I think for you to get some kind 02:08:37.280 --> 02:08:46.160 of letter unfortunately yeah it could be yeah sorry if that happens we'll help we'll help 02:08:46.160 --> 02:08:50.400 you and you're always welcome back on the show you know if you want to we'll wait and 02:08:50.400 --> 02:08:57.010 see how many letters you get I'd love to I hope you only get I'd happily represent myself 02:08:57.010 --> 02:09:02.770 in court if that ever came up that'd be great well we'll cover it on the show for sure we 02:09:02.770 --> 02:09:09.000 need to follow up and thank you for bearing with us here there's been a bit of a delay 02:09:09.000 --> 02:09:14.670 going back and forth and so apologies if that was a little confusing for you but we appreciate 02:09:14.670 --> 02:09:21.020 your time oh no problem it's been a lot of fun thanks a lot for having me on it takes 02:09:21.020 --> 02:09:32.250 a while for the radio waves to go across the globe you know yes around the globe yeah well 02:09:32.250 --> 02:09:37.760 why don't you give us any plugs is there how can people find the modern inquirer or any 02:09:37.760 --> 02:09:52.970 other information about you yeah so just the modern the modern inquirer encuir.com and 02:09:52.970 --> 02:10:01.270 the Nick Holt podcast is on all the standard podcast platforms I don't really use social 02:10:01.270 --> 02:10:08.360 media so if you only want to check out those two you can do so that'd be cool and do they 02:10:08.360 --> 02:10:15.010 watch your show just on the website or how do they is it on Twitter so the website is 02:10:15.010 --> 02:10:23.710 just articles but the podcast is audio and it's connected to the website but it's also 02:10:23.710 --> 02:10:29.020 on Spotify and Apple and all that sort of thing and I saw you had recently interviewed 02:10:29.020 --> 02:10:36.340 Kevin Sorba looks like maybe once or twice or both Hercules yeah I've interviewed him 02:10:36.340 --> 02:10:43.500 a few times he's a good guy he makes a lot of films is that correct like independently 02:10:43.500 --> 02:10:48.900 now yeah he's got it yeah he does yeah a few Christian films he's got his own production 02:10:48.900 --> 02:10:54.140 company now because he was sort of exiled from Hollywood for his conservative views 02:10:54.140 --> 02:10:58.460 so him and his wife started their own production company and now he's banging out films he's 02:10:58.460 --> 02:11:04.290 made a couple of faith-based documentaries which are really good Sorbo studios it's 02:11:04.290 --> 02:11:14.320 cool so yeah he's doing some great stuff do you recall one of those documentaries that 02:11:14.320 --> 02:11:21.270 you just referenced there at least yeah let me just have a quick look there's one that's 02:11:21.270 --> 02:11:31.800 worth checking out give me one second that's okay I remember the first time I ever heard 02:11:31.800 --> 02:11:42.430 of Mr. Sorbo was his appearance in the God's Not Dead pure flicks film that's right the 02:11:42.430 --> 02:11:51.430 greatest movie I've ever seen that's right yeah it was hilarious um it's called against 02:11:51.430 --> 02:12:00.400 the tide against the tide I have to check that out and you're on Twitter too right no 02:12:00.400 --> 02:12:05.520 I don't think he is no no no no no he's not anymore anymore he's out because he couldn't 02:12:05.520 --> 02:12:13.260 stand it so you lost your uh your uh your like check mark or whatever you said did they 02:12:13.260 --> 02:12:19.810 delete your account or did you just kind of purposely take it down um they actually deleted 02:12:19.810 --> 02:12:25.140 my account during covid i was one of the people i was one of the people that got suspended 02:12:25.140 --> 02:12:32.250 by the austrian government see they're bringing back nick flint is the new director cold sorry 02:12:32.250 --> 02:12:35.760 i said they brought back nick flint is but they brought brung the wrong nick they brought 02:12:35.760 --> 02:12:39.930 they should have brought back nick holt from the modern inquirer yeah well they do bring 02:12:39.930 --> 02:12:45.060 me back i did get brought back when elon came but i i just can't really stand in sight to 02:12:45.060 --> 02:12:49.910 be honest i mean i think elon's a bit of a i think elon's a little i don't really trust 02:12:49.910 --> 02:12:54.970 elon musk that's a conversation for maybe another episode but i also think it's just 02:12:54.970 --> 02:13:03.290 become an absolute dumpster fire of wacky theories and people just people have just 02:13:03.290 --> 02:13:09.010 been because of his algorithm people are just whipped into a echo chamber right uh-huh and 02:13:09.010 --> 02:13:16.900 the amount of confirmation bias that's on that website is just too much for me well 02:13:16.900 --> 02:13:23.500 we're right there with you and not trusting elon musk so you have i think he's i think 02:13:23.500 --> 02:13:28.540 he's the biggest con artist on the planet i don't i just don't know what i don't know 02:13:28.540 --> 02:13:32.740 what my opinion is because in some ways i kind of look at him as a really good guy and 02:13:32.740 --> 02:13:37.160 then some ways i look at him as being possibly really bad and i just don't i don't know where 02:13:37.160 --> 02:13:46.490 to put him um he has he has the worst choice in women that's for sure amber herd and that 02:13:46.490 --> 02:13:53.190 grimes chick are just some of the worst well that's that's exhibit a right exhibit a exhibit 02:13:53.190 --> 02:14:01.770 b would be so i'll give you three exhibits and then and rest my case um exhibit b is 02:14:01.770 --> 02:14:07.610 this this guy who you know he posts things like i don't know if you remember but he posted 02:14:07.610 --> 02:14:12.120 like a picture of the u.s constitution and a musket he's like i always sleep with this 02:14:12.120 --> 02:14:18.760 next to my bed no you don't this is a guy that wants to this is a guy that is basically 02:14:18.760 --> 02:14:24.850 the epitome of a globalist technocrat he wants to put he wants to relocate to mars 02:14:24.850 --> 02:14:33.430 and put chips in people's brains um yeah and he wants all cars to be electric exhibit 02:14:33.430 --> 02:14:46.040 c um is that uh i can't remember um he winds me up this guy well what you just brought 02:14:46.040 --> 02:14:50.110 up i actually think what he's created i'll just say well i think what what he's created 02:14:50.110 --> 02:14:56.210 is almost like oh yeah exhibit sorry exhibit c is that um he he's allegedly for all these 02:14:56.210 --> 02:15:02.550 people on twitter he's this um free speech like god you know he's like the champion of 02:15:02.550 --> 02:15:07.170 free speech yeah he's created a the first social media platform where he's charging 02:15:07.170 --> 02:15:16.160 people to speak well i will say this that uh you bring up of all the things you bring 02:15:16.160 --> 02:15:24.080 up the weirdest thing has to be the brain ship deal yeah you know like the guy is whacked 02:15:24.080 --> 02:15:32.510 out i don't trust him whatsoever i i i will say i think twitter from a free speech position 02:15:32.510 --> 02:15:38.620 and perspective is in a better spot today than it was under dorsey but still i i just 02:15:38.620 --> 02:15:42.970 something about musk especially the brain ship stuff the mars the electric cars his 02:15:42.970 --> 02:15:48.730 obsession with the letter x i mean you have a brand that is a global brand there's that 02:15:48.730 --> 02:15:56.020 word again and it is super popular and it's just now it's x his obsession with x and this 02:15:56.020 --> 02:16:00.820 weird the guy's weird there's definitely some serious issues he's made a lot of his money 02:16:00.820 --> 02:16:08.900 from government grants you know when it comes to the chip stuff like i i can see the evil 02:16:08.900 --> 02:16:14.980 there and of course like i'm not wanting to ever get a chip never will and you kind of 02:16:14.980 --> 02:16:19.050 get this eerie sense of like a mark of the beast but at the same time if someone's a 02:16:19.050 --> 02:16:24.460 paraplegic or if someone's blind and they can literally through some kind of a surgery 02:16:24.460 --> 02:16:31.860 you know fix that i mean it it's somewhat similar in my mind to individuals getting 02:16:31.860 --> 02:16:38.050 you know a prosthetic arm or a leg or people getting heart transplants or different things 02:16:38.050 --> 02:16:43.170 like that but to me it should be limited in scope to people that have deficiencies already 02:16:43.170 --> 02:16:49.020 or have some kind of a physical ailment that they're trying to possibly solve like a perfectly 02:16:49.020 --> 02:16:56.090 healthy normal individual drilling a hole into their skull and having a microchip planted 02:16:56.090 --> 02:16:57.040 on their brain. 02:16:57.040 --> 02:17:03.570 It's a very humanistic viewpoint, obviously it's a very atheistic viewpoint. 02:17:03.570 --> 02:17:07.630 There's a lot of potential evil there so I totally agree. 02:17:07.630 --> 02:17:09.310 We need to have another discussion on Eli. 02:17:09.310 --> 02:17:10.300 That's a whole other episode. 02:17:10.300 --> 02:17:12.930 We'll go another hour and a half on that if we don't stop ourselves. 02:17:12.930 --> 02:17:16.920 It is because I think it'd be great to do it because I think what he's done is he's 02:17:16.920 --> 02:17:20.960 created a digital cult, the way people kind of – there are certain people that behave 02:17:20.960 --> 02:17:24.580 as a very cult-like behavior. 02:17:24.580 --> 02:17:29.660 And I just found a tweet that I wanted to finish on from Elon, which just made me laugh 02:17:29.660 --> 02:17:30.720 at the time. 02:17:30.720 --> 02:17:33.510 This was on December 1st, 2022. 02:17:33.510 --> 02:17:37.170 He throws these tweets out and everyone's like, "Oh my God, he's such a genius." 02:17:37.170 --> 02:17:42.570 And he wrote, "Jesus taught love, kindness, and forgiveness. 02:17:42.570 --> 02:17:47.230 I used to think that turning the other cheek was weak and foolish, but I was the fool for 02:17:47.230 --> 02:17:50.070 not appreciating its profound wisdom. 02:17:50.070 --> 02:17:53.610 I don't buy it." 02:17:53.610 --> 02:17:54.600 You don't think he's being genuine. 02:17:54.600 --> 02:17:55.590 "I don't buy it." 02:17:55.590 --> 02:18:00.780 He put up a post as well saying, "God is good," the other day. 02:18:00.780 --> 02:18:03.070 So I guess this guy is, you know... 02:18:03.070 --> 02:18:07.540 He was on the Babylon Bee as a guest. 02:18:07.540 --> 02:18:10.840 So the Zionist didn't get saved. 02:18:10.840 --> 02:18:12.240 Yeah, true. 02:18:12.240 --> 02:18:15.210 We'll save it for another time. 02:18:15.210 --> 02:18:18.580 I mean, if I was sitting next to him, I would try to give him the gospel, of course, and 02:18:18.580 --> 02:18:20.960 just see where he's at on the issue. 02:18:20.960 --> 02:18:27.670 But it's hard to tell where he's at, if he's a useful idiot and or if he's actually kind 02:18:27.670 --> 02:18:28.650 of bad. 02:18:28.650 --> 02:18:32.310 I kind of think that he's being used by evil people. 02:18:32.310 --> 02:18:36.830 And I think he probably is smart in some ways, but he's also kind of dumb and childish. 02:18:36.830 --> 02:18:40.130 The guy's autistic, you know, you get what you get. 02:18:40.130 --> 02:18:43.480 But we really appreciate you coming on the show. 02:18:43.480 --> 02:18:47.750 Really interesting to get a perspective from somebody from another nation, from another 02:18:47.750 --> 02:18:48.990 country. 02:18:48.990 --> 02:18:54.260 Even though you're not with us physically, I feel like you're with us spiritually. 02:18:54.260 --> 02:18:59.680 And if you ever want to come to America, you got to come see us here in Texas and we'll 02:18:59.680 --> 02:19:01.330 take you to Texas barbecue. 02:19:01.330 --> 02:19:02.810 We'll put you up. 02:19:02.810 --> 02:19:06.220 You can come visit our state and our church or whatever. 02:19:06.220 --> 02:19:07.730 We'd love to have you visit. 02:19:07.730 --> 02:19:08.980 You can even come to the studio. 02:19:08.980 --> 02:19:12.050 So you got an open invitation coming to Texas. 02:19:12.050 --> 02:19:14.990 I'm coming to Texas later in the year. 02:19:14.990 --> 02:19:16.990 When, where, when and where? 02:19:16.990 --> 02:19:17.980 What part of Texas? 02:19:17.980 --> 02:19:20.560 I've already got the ticket. 02:19:20.560 --> 02:19:25.770 I'm visiting a friend in Austin and then I'll probably get a car and move around a bit. 02:19:25.770 --> 02:19:30.670 I've been to Austin once before, but my friend, the reason for going to Austin is just my 02:19:30.670 --> 02:19:32.190 friend. 02:19:32.190 --> 02:19:34.280 But nothing's really set in stone yet. 02:19:34.280 --> 02:19:36.100 So I'll take you up on that offer. 02:19:36.100 --> 02:19:37.690 And we're in the Dallas for the area. 02:19:37.690 --> 02:19:40.830 I'm up some great. 02:19:40.830 --> 02:19:43.580 We'd love to have you reach out some details closer. 02:19:43.580 --> 02:19:49.710 Yeah, we'll, we'll host you and take you out and it'd be great to meet up in person. 02:19:49.710 --> 02:19:52.400 Yeah, man. 02:19:52.400 --> 02:19:55.220 We'd love to come to one of your sermons too. 02:19:55.220 --> 02:19:58.310 Well, it was great having you on the show. 02:19:58.310 --> 02:19:59.950 That's going to pretty much do it for us. 02:19:59.950 --> 02:20:01.670 Do you have anything else you want to say, Ben? 02:20:01.670 --> 02:20:04.080 Well, we talked a lot about politics. 02:20:04.080 --> 02:20:09.030 We talked about the attack on free speech, a number of different topics covered here 02:20:09.030 --> 02:20:10.030 on the program. 02:20:10.030 --> 02:20:13.710 And there were a lot of negative things that we brought up in the sense of just how we're 02:20:13.710 --> 02:20:15.460 being silenced and things like that. 02:20:15.460 --> 02:20:19.680 I just want to remind the audience, we have a Christian audience here. 02:20:19.680 --> 02:20:22.700 You know, we have hope that the unsaved don't have. 02:20:22.700 --> 02:20:26.820 We have hope that this world doesn't have, the Lord Jesus Christ. 02:20:26.820 --> 02:20:32.220 And specifically, you know, one of my favorite verses that I wanted to touch on is just Philippians 02:20:32.220 --> 02:20:33.890 chapter four and verse eight. 02:20:33.890 --> 02:20:37.940 "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever 02:20:37.940 --> 02:20:42.670 things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things 02:20:42.670 --> 02:20:47.910 are of good report, if there be any virtue and if there be any praise, think on these 02:20:47.910 --> 02:20:48.910 things." 02:20:48.910 --> 02:20:53.500 It's easy to get tied up in all the negativity going on in this world and obsessed with all 02:20:53.500 --> 02:20:57.800 the news headlines and it seems like it's getting worse and worse by the day. 02:20:57.800 --> 02:21:01.510 And I'm not saying we shouldn't be paying at least some attention, but we don't want 02:21:01.510 --> 02:21:07.610 to get consumed with the headlines and consumed with the bad news to the point that it negatively 02:21:07.610 --> 02:21:12.600 impacts our countenance and makes us miserable people, because we're not. 02:21:12.600 --> 02:21:18.180 There's a hope that we have inside the gospel, the word of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, and 02:21:18.180 --> 02:21:22.230 it's something that we should hold near and dear to our hearts and don't let all this 02:21:22.230 --> 02:21:27.730 outside noise depress you, because at the end of the day, we're on the winning side 02:21:27.730 --> 02:21:31.980 and if God be for us, who can be against us? 02:21:31.980 --> 02:21:33.930 That's a great recap. 02:21:33.930 --> 02:21:37.390 Of course, we're talking about is free speech under attack. 02:21:37.390 --> 02:21:38.370 It's obvious, folks. 02:21:38.370 --> 02:21:40.390 And of course, the gospel is always under attack. 02:21:40.390 --> 02:21:42.670 They attack Jesus Christ. 02:21:42.670 --> 02:21:44.960 But at the same time, we're still making a difference. 02:21:44.960 --> 02:21:50.930 You know, we're the fourth podcast out there on Rumble front page, so that couldn't happen 02:21:50.930 --> 02:21:52.690 without all of our live viewers. 02:21:52.690 --> 02:21:55.520 Thank you so much for you guys tuning in. 02:21:55.520 --> 02:22:01.280 You want to tune in next week for the debate on the Flat Earth. 02:22:01.280 --> 02:22:03.730 And you say, "I already know that it's not flat." 02:22:03.730 --> 02:22:04.680 We all know. 02:22:04.680 --> 02:22:05.620 Okay. 02:22:05.620 --> 02:22:08.630 But this is going to be an epic show. 02:22:08.630 --> 02:22:09.610 And I'll just be honest. 02:22:09.610 --> 02:22:10.590 We all know. 02:22:10.590 --> 02:22:12.070 I thought like, what am I going to say? 02:22:12.070 --> 02:22:16.050 I've been doing some research and just studying the Bible more. 02:22:16.050 --> 02:22:18.430 And I actually have some interesting things to say. 02:22:18.430 --> 02:22:23.560 I was kind of learning some new things and I was pretty excited about this discussion. 02:22:23.560 --> 02:22:26.740 So even if obviously our opponents aren't going to really necessarily change their mind 02:22:26.740 --> 02:22:30.390 or agree to reality, we're having a flat earth debate. 02:22:30.390 --> 02:22:34.780 But I think that there's still some profit in the discussion and just the things I'm 02:22:34.780 --> 02:22:36.470 going to try and bring to the table. 02:22:36.470 --> 02:22:39.230 So plus I'm not going to be nice. 02:22:39.230 --> 02:22:42.050 So there might be some fireworks on that regard. 02:22:42.050 --> 02:22:46.080 But I want to shout out to some of our commenters. 02:22:46.080 --> 02:22:50.890 I noticed lots of people were really active in the chat. 02:22:50.890 --> 02:22:54.430 Hchartier555 says, "Great show. 02:22:54.430 --> 02:22:55.390 God bless." 02:22:55.390 --> 02:22:59.210 Always Baptist says, "Great podcast." 02:22:59.210 --> 02:23:02.650 Adella Lyle says, "Thanks so much, Pastor Nick and Ben. 02:23:02.650 --> 02:23:05.880 So great." 02:23:05.880 --> 02:23:08.030 Lots of praise for the show. 02:23:08.030 --> 02:23:10.270 Someone says y'all are going to get a black eye. 02:23:10.270 --> 02:23:19.020 Miss King says, "I don't like musk either." 02:23:19.020 --> 02:23:21.250 Someone says, "We should put a microchip in Ben." 02:23:21.250 --> 02:23:23.210 I don't get that. 02:23:23.210 --> 02:23:25.540 Why do they want to have a microchip in you, Ben? 02:23:25.540 --> 02:23:28.530 I don't know what that even means. 02:23:28.530 --> 02:23:34.440 Miss King says, "Lovely to hear from the Southern Hemisphere." 02:23:34.440 --> 02:23:37.930 Someone says, "Vitally Izoita." 02:23:37.930 --> 02:23:39.110 I don't know how you say that. 02:23:39.110 --> 02:23:40.330 I have the Baptist bias. 02:23:40.330 --> 02:23:41.310 Well, there you go. 02:23:41.310 --> 02:23:43.830 Hey, we got someone that's got the Baptist bias, Ben. 02:23:43.830 --> 02:23:47.830 Isn't that great? 02:23:47.830 --> 02:23:51.370 We've got a lot of people that were in the chat, a lot of good comments. 02:23:51.370 --> 02:23:52.520 Thanks so much for everybody tuning in. 02:23:52.520 --> 02:23:55.350 A lot of times we do take call-ins today. 02:23:55.350 --> 02:23:56.740 We just kept it with our guest. 02:23:56.740 --> 02:23:58.370 We had a great guest on. 02:23:58.370 --> 02:23:59.370 It was great to hear him. 02:23:59.370 --> 02:24:05.050 He's actually a friend of some of our other friends in Australia, Ben from Australia Talks 02:24:05.050 --> 02:24:08.960 and also from Elijah Schaefer, highly recommended. 02:24:08.960 --> 02:24:12.410 I'm really glad they did because this was a great conversation, it was great to have 02:24:12.410 --> 02:24:16.030 a conversation with Brother Nick here. 02:24:16.030 --> 02:24:22.180 I want to mention one other plug because this Friday, I'm going to have a special stream 02:24:22.180 --> 02:24:23.160 at noon. 02:24:23.160 --> 02:24:27.850 So if you want to tune in next Friday or this Friday, I'm sorry, at noon, I'm going to have 02:24:27.850 --> 02:24:30.590 a special guest on The Baptist Bias. 02:24:30.590 --> 02:24:36.900 It is Dr. Andrew Wakefield and he's coming out with a new film called Protocol 7. 02:24:36.900 --> 02:24:39.280 Now he came out with some other films in the past. 02:24:39.280 --> 02:24:42.710 One that's pretty famous is the Vax documentary that he came out with. 02:24:42.710 --> 02:24:47.320 He's coming out with a new movie, it's coming out soon called Protocol 7 and we're going 02:24:47.320 --> 02:24:52.130 to let him talk to us about what that film is about, why he made that film and just kind 02:24:52.130 --> 02:24:53.130 of interview him. 02:24:53.130 --> 02:24:59.900 He's a highly cancelled individual, very controversial individual, but you know we love controversial 02:24:59.900 --> 02:25:02.430 individuals on the show, don't we Ben? 02:25:02.430 --> 02:25:04.390 Absolutely. 02:25:04.390 --> 02:25:07.700 Why are they wanting to put a chip in your brain? 02:25:07.700 --> 02:25:11.160 I'm not sure. 02:25:11.160 --> 02:25:12.910 Well I like the Ben that we have. 02:25:12.910 --> 02:25:14.620 We don't need to fix him. 02:25:14.620 --> 02:25:20.500 I like his epic rants and everybody needs to get the Baptist bias. 02:25:20.500 --> 02:25:23.040 I agree but we don't have to put a chip in their brain. 02:25:23.040 --> 02:25:25.160 You just got to watch the show. 02:25:25.160 --> 02:25:27.100 Actually all you have to do is open the Bible. 02:25:27.100 --> 02:25:29.420 That's what will give you the Baptist bias. 02:25:29.420 --> 02:25:34.310 You read the Bible and you read about John the Baptist and you realize that that's the 02:25:34.310 --> 02:25:36.370 right perspective to have. 02:25:36.370 --> 02:25:38.450 Well that's pretty much going to do it for us. 02:25:38.450 --> 02:25:42.390 Make sure to check out the show, share it, follow me at bandpaster. 02:25:42.390 --> 02:25:45.150 You can follow us on rumble, Spotify. 02:25:45.150 --> 02:25:49.310 Everyone's got a perspective, but you need to get the Baptist Bias.