being everywhere, except for rumble.
Well, hey, for those of you who are watching off rumble,
you are now seeing an exclusive stream.
I think this is the greatest livestream
that's ever been produced, personally.
This is what happens when you don't have a production crew.
You have to deal with.
This is super awesome right now.
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Yeah, we should be.
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As people file in for this epic live stream, we're looking at a picture of some guys.
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We're good you can see can you see yeah, I'll show you so
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Don't know what happened
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Yes, but you shouldn't you yourself on there you go. Thank you. We're good. Okay. Is it all right?
Yes, except for on you just have to mute yourself on.
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Now we're good. All right.
Sorry, from technical difficulties.
My apologies.
We're just we're just, you know, streaming, having fun.
And yeah, this is a low key.
Folks, here's the thing you have to understand.
This isn't the most formal thing in the world.
We're just hanging out tonight
and we're inviting you to hang out with us.
That's all this is we're hanging out.
Have a good time
But we were able to I like what this person says in the chat room glad you were able to overcome
That's right
We overcame the technical challenges the technical difficulties to be here blood sweat and tears put into this stream tonight
And we expect that she'll tune in as a result
Who is he that overcometh but he that is able to mix his audio together so that the audio
with video and slack and OBS and all the rest of it. I mean, if you people would see how
complicated it this setup is, I think you would appreciate what we're doing here tonight.
I mean, just just for like 10 minutes straight, we're showing this picture to the world. So
these guys did pretty epic picture. I mean, yeah, some of the guys are getting a lot of fame.
Yeah, some of the same guys at the conference. All right, let's go through some of these pictures we got.
Here's our
first works crew. So this is the LA. This is the what they call the West Coast is the
best coast crew. And it was great seeing them come out and join us for the conference too.
Yeah, the people from first works are always a lot of fun to hang out with.
Some people were saying that we had a hundred people from Faith Ward come to our church. It was
only 30. We did have another dozen here it looks like. But nobody would ever lie about us. So
I don't think so. I'm assuming I think they just got wrong information because I don't think anyone would ever lie about it. Okay, my bad
We've got
Brother Gio and his wife. I mean, brother Gio is a really solid dude. I love brother Gio
Super cool. Yeah, nice guy
Love brother Gio and here's here's some other pictures of them at the church
Maybe this is all AI. I don't know but
Really convincing looking pictures. There was no conference
Here's some here's some more of our guys hanging out. I have to say I mean the the background is pretty epic-looking. It's pretty cool
Here is some guys that visited from Pastor Thompson's Church and
Well, one of those is our church member a couple of them there, but yeah
I've almost everyone. Sorry. Are you I'm maybe you're not looking at the right screen with me now?
I see pastor Thompson. Sorry. I was confusing you. I see you. I see pastor Anderson. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
This is the guys from
Washington and brother Raymond. I see some African-American gentlemen. Yeah, I think they're from Washington, too. So
Here's brother Samson and the Samson Samson's like a man's man. You got to love brother Samson Samson
He's, uh, I just remember the first time he ever called me and just like,
Hello, Pastor Shelly.
Pastor Shelly.
I'm from Houston.
He told me he was going to be a lifer day one, and he's still there.
Oh, oh, Pastor Shelly, you should ask Brother Samson about my driving.
He'll give you some interesting comments.
Pastor Schill is a crazy driver.
Crazy driver.
Draws furiously like you.
That picture was a little off center.
Our production crew said that these pictures
are a little off center, but it's okay.
Some ladies having a good time.
Yeah, the decorations were pretty epic
And we pat out the place. I don't even know how to fit 357 just in our sanctuary plus mother Bayroom areas. That's crazy
Yeah, I want to give a shout out to the ladies who put that's together for us the decorations
The Southerners that was one of them. I believe I mean the other was one of the Southerners family
Just looks so like picture-esque that it's just like it almost seems like a fake like this
It's just like a stock photo or something a family that we just yeah cut pasted
Into the thing
It's kind of funny. Oh brother Alberto. You got a little bird. Oh
There's the man, the man himself, Alberto.
Dude, he's a, he's a 10 year veteran.
This guy goes back to the very beginning.
That's impressive.
That's real steadfast right there.
That is.
Someone drew this on the board for us.
Wow.
That's actually really good.
I don't know who did it.
Do you know who did it?
I have no idea.
I just walked in and saw that and I was like,
very impressive, very impressive work there.
And this was broom ball.
Yeah, people are telling me that they love this this. Yeah, that looked like it was a lot of fun
I would all like to have gone, but didn't have the opportunity. We need to do it again
Here's a
Here's some of us passers. We didn't pass to Russell and Pastor Anderson schedules didn't overlap
So we couldn't ever we couldn't get them in a picture together
But here's some of us before we go play some pickleball nice Saturday night
And pass through, I feel like Pastor Thompson
makes us all look like children when we stand next to him.
He's just so tall.
It's just a man's big man.
A big man right there.
Cedar Hill, that's where it happens, folks.
You got to love the classic shirt
by Brother Sonny, the sodomite deception.
That's just an instant classic.
Some someone in the chat is asking, is that a globe curvature behind Pastor
Yes, okay
So the implication there is that the earth is a sphere. I hope so
Yeah, there's Sun sunny right there
Skating around it's another
Picture-esque photo here photo drop some of the ladies photo drops of some of the ladies
I think right before this photo all these ladies were threatened by their husbands with
you know
domestic discipline if they didn't smile for the picture. That's that's what I've heard happens
at, uh, steadfast is that the ladies are not happy. They're all crying like for hours before
this picture. But we made a smile for this. We AI Photoshopped smiles because women are not allowed
to actually be happy at steadfast. It's like, no, definitely not. Oh, here's some more ladies
smiling. I don't know if this really happened or not. I don't know that that's a I have ever
Here's someone sharing some of the stickers we got.
It's got a pretty base looking work setup right here.
Is one of those the Sasquatch with a machine gun?
Uh, yeah, it kind of looks like it.
And then it's a rooster with a gun.
Seems to be black rifle coffee rifle
Sasquatch with a rifle a rooster with a rifle. I feel like this person made like guns
I feel like this would not be a person that you want to like break into their house late at night
Probably not probably take care of some business. You may look like Swiss cheese afterward
And all the way back. I didn't share all the photos, but there was just some of the photos that people shared with me
It was a lot of fun
So much to do at this conference. It's not just preaching and it's not just fellowship. There's a lot of activities
that
You put together for us pastor. So
really great time
Today they had the ardmore soul winning marathon, I think pastor Oz was sending me a picture of
Some of them that went to it and looks like it was a huge success. Looks like they had a lot of fun
Well, that's what we do, you know, we're just gonna keep soul-winning. We're gonna keep chugging along and serving God putting Jesus Christ first and
Doing his work
and nothing is going to stop us.
So, and you know, conferences like this,
I think really help to jumpstart people's zeal
if they start to feel kind of burned out
or maybe they're starting to go through the motions
a little bit, a conference can revitalize their spirit
and get them going again.
And I think the Fire Breathing Baptist Fellowship in 2025
with no exception to that.
So much to do, such great preaching as well.
I actually wrote some notes if you want to talk about.
A few of the sermons or all the sermons that were preached. I'll let you lead the way. I
Think I have
some clips
That it was really just the things I bookmarked the past. I think like some of past Anderson's preaching some pastor Oz's preaching
He clipped out on X
We could watch some of that let's watch a few of those clips
But let's just kind of look I sort of look at the high level stop blaming
Start obeying God's word over feelings
Fake viz victims with pretend disorders
There was a clip that I'd shared that I thought was interesting the Lord said on a Moses
Okay, so this is the spitting in the face clip beaten to a pulp clip. This is a long one five minutes
good luck with your fake abuse film. I love church people. Garbage ads for Taylor's sister's new album.
Let Thy Fountain Be Blessed Rejoice with the Life of the Youth. He made a lot of clips from this
sermon. It's pretty good. It feels good when your marriage is secure. I think that we had-
I love that. Love that point he made. I don't know why it just like freaked out on me there for a
From Pastor Oz as well. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, there's just the whole sermon
Hmm
Maybe we could just drop a hammer that sermon was so good. You can't just clip it yet
But let's just let's just let's just drop the hammer somewhere about your husband to other people
Just never talk crap about your husband for any reason
I agree because you're not referencing your husband, you know, you know what I like to do is just drop the hammer
people's sermons because it really just kind of gives you a sense of like what
these kind of people are like and what they're preaching is like and we dropped
the hammer and it was instantly just a great statement it was just don't talk
crap about your husband and just for the just for the sake of the audience what
when you say drop the hammer what he means folks is when he just plays a
random portion of the sermon and when it's an actual good guy and you just play
Then you're gonna hear something great, but when it's one of these bozo idiots, and you just hear a bunch of heresy
Pastor Oz said they had 25 salvations today. So praise God for the soul winning in art more. That's great
And and real quick here in the chat. We always look forward to the FVBS F
This person says NIFB never disappoints. Thank you from Corpus Christi NIFB crew. Hey, we appreciate the
Encouragement. Thank you for coming out from Corpus Christi
To the FBB. Yeah, we we loved having you. Let's drop the hammer again. Let's just let's just let's just play
Let's see what you get a little piss that you're not splitting some things up there
But it's like if a man goes out and works and does his job and provides for you
You know what anything that he chooses to do at home is extra
Amen extra and it should not be expected if a man wants to do those things. I believe I like this point
just, hey, if the husband's paying 100% of the bills, shouldn't there be things that
the wife is expected to do at 100% level as well?
And if...
If the wife has these, you know, tasks and things at home that she's supposed to be doing,
then if the husband decides to do them, it's extra, it's not like expected.
He doesn't have to come home and be ordered around and bossed around by his wife to do whatever,
just like I never make my wife do my job or pay any of the bills.
So I think that feminism has gone pretty far.
Tries to take this like partnership too much and tries to make it where your wife can boss you around
I think it's coming from a lot of TV shows
But it seems pretty logical that if you're doing your part, they're gonna do their part, right?
Yeah, you're busting your rear end on the job all day long to provide for the family
so when you get home you expect that your wife is going to do her part which is
the tasks that have to do with home making, raising the kids, cleaning the home, cooking,
et cetera.
So, I think for sure it's fair, honestly, I mean, I think what's the Bible teaches
that women should be guiding the house anyway, but regardless of that, the man is out busting
his rear end to work, so.
You know the woman should be expected that she's gonna be doing her part at home
Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's we're not saying that you aren't coming home and you're still a husband
You're still a father like you still have
responsibilities when you get home, but I don't think that you should be expected to do the house chores
When you're paying all the bills if you're paying 100% of the bills and you are telling your wife that you want her to do
These chores then she should do the chores you should do the
Uh, the paying of the bills and that's just kind of how it works.
This other, this person here says my wife gets a hundred percent of the discipline in
the home.
That's Cameron.
Actually.
Well, a hundred percent of the bill is being paid.
So yeah, I guess he could doll out a hundred percent of the discipline if he likes it.
Of course.
He then said, wait a minute.
He then said this is a joke.
So does that mean that he gets some of the discipline then?
He said the wife gets a hundred percent of the discipline at home. That's a joke
So so I guess he gets some of the discipline. He may maybe he gets a little bit too. Yeah, okay. I
Wasn't sure exactly how to read that. I just want to make sure
We were reading that apparently he's pretty spicy. You can't put him on YouTube anymore
No camera nuked. I'm blaming him. He knew my channel his fault
I think that's the problem. The problem was Cameron. It wasn't you
Nothing to do with me, right?
Let's let's play another little clip here, and then we'll I want to do some pastor answers clips, too
And why do I say that because I've read a lot of books by old IFB pastors that gives advice on the home
And a lot of the book is giving good things until you get to divorce
and all the time the old IFB is saying, like,
here's a list of 10 things that they would sanction a divorce for.
Well, here's how many things I believe are valid for getting divorced.
Zero!
Good point.
None.
Never divorce.
Amen.
So much bridge of sermon called never divorce.
Yeah, I agree with that wholeheartedly.
Can you, you can still see everything, right?
I'm only hearing at this point. I'm not seeing hmm, but that's okay. It's just the
Slack is all messed up
Let me
Let me try again. I don't know. I want to make sure you can see can you see right now? We're good. Sorry. I can see now
You know, I I definitely agree. I've you know, Jack Hiles is a great preacher love Pastor Hiles
I was reading his book today on some different things, and he definitely believed in divorce
as an option, and I don't agree with that, but I still think he had a lot of good advice
when it came to marriage in these situations, but I just think it's a bad idea to get advice
from someone that even believes in divorce at all.
I think that a lot of times they're counseling people to divorce, they're not actually counseling
So I think people should be really careful with that
Did he believe in the exception like if you commit adultery or something like that or yeah, he called it fornication
Which is even weirder. Yeah, a lot a lot of people are confused about that one
So let's just I want to play one of these clips of Pastor Anderson's
I don't know if you had a preference
Let me go through them again, and you can you can pick stop blaming sort of bang fake victims with pretend disorders
Spitting in the face beat to a pulp
Fake abuse. I love church people
Let thy fountain be blessed. What do you have any feelings about one of these that you liked? It's good when your marriage is secure
Yeah, I like it when your marriage is secure. Alright, let's play this one. Preach against separation
It's so funny when people think it's it's anti women when you preach against divorce
Preach against separation. You know, what if I told you that there's men forsaking their wives, too?
That's just as bad
You know, yeah, there's twice as many women divorcing their husbands, but there's still a lot of men divorcing their wives
And you know what I feel so good
Just knowing my wife's never gonna leave me. It feels good and I would hate to go through life like oh, man
I wonder she's gonna leave I bet my wife would probably hate to be wondering is
My husband gonna be with me in the long run
You know what for us? We just know that about each other. We're in it to win it and it feels good
That that security
and to know that.
I don't want to be like,
oh man, I better mind my P's and Q's
because you know, let me tell you something guys,
first birth you seven, she can leave.
Did you know that?
She can leave God.
Yeah, it's like what verse is that?
I thought the Bible says,
let not the wife depart from her husband.
What verse is saying she can leave?
Literally the Bible says that she's bounded
by the law to her husband.
Hmm, I found by the law direct quote, and then you have preachers getting up and saying she could leave. I
Don't know which thing in the whole point of this
The whole point of that is to is to try to make men like basically afraid
The idea is to get you to be afraid to actually lead correctly because she could leave so you better walk on eggshells around her
I'm pulling up our chat
Someone said Vanity Vanity says is there a reupload of your show the other night on my x-page at
Baptist then 316
X page you'll find the stream I did with brother Cameron Hall
And I really enjoy doing those those streams with
With Cameron, it's always a good time appreciated Cameron. Thanks for taking the time to do it
First Corinthians seven but must remain single
Yeah, um, oh my, my, I don't know, my headphones are being weird, can you still hear me okay?
I hear you, yep.
I might have to plug them in.
They're getting a little weird on me, can you still hear me okay?
Gotcha.
All right.
Yeah, I mean this is a good clip.
you may not actually put effort and energy into it.
I think just like eternal security,
the fact that we know that we're going to heaven
should motivate us even when we screw up
or things aren't going well because
at the end of the day, we're going to heaven.
So we might as well just always try.
I think in marriage, if you know your spouse,
you're stuck with your spouse and there's no getting out,
then it's like, all right,
might as well try, right?
Exactly. I mean, we have eternal security, we have eternal life, so as a result of that, it actually can serve as motivation for us to serve God with our life.
But at the same way, you know you're going to be married till death to us part.
And so that serves as motivation and inspiration for you to really put 100% of your effort into your marriage, spend time with your spouse, and really, you know, take good care of that relationship.
For some stupid reason, my headphones are dying.
Pastor Anderson also talked about how you shouldn't attack the man of God,
and he brings up the story in Numbers chapter 12 where Miriam became leprous after criticizing Moses.
So that's a
Of course, very important concept that we see in scripture, we want to make sure that we're showing respect to the man of God.
We're not attacking him.
We can see that God could judge us for doing so if we screw up in that area.
Brings up the scripture that talks about if the father spit in the face of his daughter, actually it would be the daughter who ought to be ashamed in that scenario.
There's no condemnation for the father for doing that and I think yeah
Yeah, you will play that clip spit in her face now look there it is
Let's play the clip and we'll get your comment. The Lord said in a Moses if her father had butt spit in her face now look a
Father spitting in his daughter's face
Seems a little rough doesn't it?
Now look my parents discipline me they spank me
They whipped me, they did what needed to be done,
but you know what, my parents never spit in my face.
I've never spit in any of my kids' faces.
I never will spit in any of my kids' faces.
At least I don't plan on it.
Never done it, probably never will.
I can't even imagine a situation where I would do that.
Okay, but here's the thing, God just casually brings this up
If her father had spat in her face, that would be super embarrassing for her.
Does it say, like, oh, then the dad is really abusive,
and he's really sick, and he's really mean,
and he's really bad, and she's gonna have to go
to years of counseling, and she's disabled now,
and she's a victim now, and she's abused now.
Is that what the Bible says?
But you know what?
If I or any of these other men of God
had actually spit in one of our kids' faces,
we would all be labeled a horrible abuser.
True or false?
None of us have done it.
I mean, I guess I can't speak for them, but I'm assuming.
Just for the record, just for the record, I've never spit in my kid's faces.
Been, okay, a devil to devil plan on it.
But you know and I know that if any of us did that would people talk about it the way God talked about it
No, because we live in a stupid messed up backward society
That's why a society that just wants to condemn parents and condemn dad
Condemned husbands, condemned the boss, condemned authority, condemned God, condemned the pastor, condemned Jesus
That's the society we're living in, a sick, messed up, backward society
Well, how do you really feel?
Yeah, he really brought the heat there in that section of the sermon for sure, and I really love when he's preaching
Yeah, I mean, I think I think a lot of people really appreciate at this point because they're just kind of like yeah, obviously
It's in there, but maybe we don't really think about it like
Hey, the dad can spit in his daughter's face and
Just is what it is. I mean
Well, we know there's the famous verse that says honor thy father and thy mother that
thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveeth thee.
But here's the thing.
Where is the honor thy son and thy daughter?
Now look, I'm not saying that you shouldn't treat your children well, everything like
that.
That's not what I'm saying.
Of course you should.
There's a special kind of respect given in the scripture for those who are in authority, period.
And if a father actually feels the need to go to that length to spit in the face of his daughter,
then what is the word of God telling us?
It's the daughter who should be ashamed because she obviously did something horrific
that warranted such a response from her father.
The Bible is taking the father's side.
in that. Yeah. And yet today you hear about parents disciplining their children and instead
of taking the parents side, oh, they abused them. Actually advocating for children to
rebel against their parents. Baptists advocating for children to rebel against their parents.
advocating for children to rebel against their parents.
This is mind boggling.
It is absolutely crazy the world we live in today.
Everything's backwards.
Up is down, down is up, two plus two is five.
Well, and I think that it goes,
like God's is kind of giving this idea
of the right perspective, right?
If a dad disciplines his children,
The shame is not for the dad, because the dad's just granted that he's right.
And I mean, again, I think that by legal definition, if you spit on someone, it could be a criminal
charge.
And I understand that that's how the laws are the land.
It's called assault or something like that.
But let's just be honest, no one's died of having been spit on.
Um, so it's, it's really more about just kind of shaming the person or making the person feel embarrassed about the situation.
And so it's just parents embarrassing their child.
So sorry, password interrupt.
I was just saying Deuteronomy 25 as well brings this up when it comes to a kinsman redeemer who refuses to actually play the role of a kinsman redeemer.
They should be ashamed as a result through spitting.
Amen, I mean again, that would be super embarrassing to have your dad spit on you and
In the Bible says if a child would rise up and curse his parents or strike his parents we put the death
Whereas here, it's like, not only are parents kind of given this backwards way of understanding
how you could spit on your kid's face, but the Bible even says if you have a stubborn
rebellious son and the law confirms it, you can put them to death.
So, you know, the Bible is backing up human authority when it comes to parents.
We live in a we live in a movement that claims they love the Bible, but they like support children
rising up against their parents and
and again, you know against like this
Idea of like oh this this dad's gonna kill his son or something
Kills daughter, but but don't we even have like literal stories of that? I mean you have Abraham
Taking Isaac up to the altar to do what?
to kill him. Slay him, yeah. We have Jeptha who's supposed to slay his daughter. Now again, like
someone's gonna twist this and say, oh, you're teaching abuse or parents can kill their children
or something, but obviously abuse is a bad thing. Obviously, you know, parents causing permanent
damage to the children, especially if they're hurting the children.
In any context has nothing to do with punishment or discipline or something. That would just be weird bizarre
No, no one no one approves of that. No one thinks that that's cool
I think when it comes to even discipline itself though
Most of the world thinks any type of physical punishment is as abuse or cruel or unusual
And and what's sad is when you see fundamentalists conservatives
Baptist
Kind of like almost sounding like left-hard liberals and I'm using the same talking points sometimes
I think there's a little bit of leftism in them. I think there's a little bit of leftism in them. It's just that simple
You know, and it's it seems like they borrow from their playbook a little too often and I'm saying that's why I'm saying what I'm saying
You know, it seems like you're why would you want to have those positions because we should just we should just default
Hey, dads are right. Moms are right. Parents are right. We respect authority
Children should get in line
You know, I don't like this victim mentality.
And I think this clip is also similar.
Let's see if I can play this one.
But you know what I've noticed is that we kind of just live
in a generation of crybabies in general.
And you know what I've noticed about this generation
is that everybody today is disabled in some way.
They're abused in some way. They're a victim in some way. And it's like people want to be special
So they all claim to have some disorder
Everybody's neurologically divergent and like listen to me. I know that there are people who really have these situations
I'm not talking about people who legitimately have some kind of a handicap.
That's not what I'm talking about.
But you know what?
Those people should be the maddest anyway and should agree with me the most
about all the fake victims crying wolf and all the people pretending.
I mean, look, are there people that are really autistic?
Yeah, but then you got a bunch of people just like, oh, I'm autistic
just because like it's cool to be autistic.
Hey, it's just cool to have Asperger.
It's just cool to have ADHD, you know.
And these people just come and just announce to you,
like, oh, I have this disability.
And then you hang around these people
for weeks, months, or even years,
and they're just totally normal people.
And you're like, what the heck?
I thought you had some autism.
Well, the people that leave our churches
usually think they have some kind of issue,
but let's keep going.
Oh, I do, you just don't know.
Well, it's like, well, I've hung out with you
And we might have to try it.
I would just switch it over at this point.
Mm hmm.
I'm trying to just pick it back up and just see.
All right.
I'm going to mute this.
Oh, it looks like we're back.
OK.
We are back up, ladies and gentlemen, right here,
live on the Baptist Bar as Pastor Shelley.
Take it away.
What in the world?
I feel like the devil doesn't want this message to get out.
No, I'm just kidding.
Slack just like just exploded on me, so sorry.
Everything exploded.
Sorry about that, folks.
See the screen bin.
It's all right.
I think I can hear the clip though anyway, so if you want to just play.
Yeah, I'm just, I guess I'm just going to not even open it.
Oh technical difficulties. That's why we have a production crew folks
Which for this stream is Pastor Shelley and Benjamin nine and I'm actually nothing
Well, we might we could try stream yard next time and just see how it goes. I
Would I would recommend that it's worked out well for victory live victory
Had to come up with that name. I had to just do a quick plug. All right, that's it
That's all that was how'd I go up with the name? Yeah, I just I love the word victory
And so I was just trying to fit it into a podcast name. It's that simple
Well, it's been a good show so far
Got to
Do a lot of things people are saying you can't hear the clip. I can't hear the clip either. It's just muted
I'm just sorry. I'll pause it if that confuses you but these fake fake victims
Yeah, oh
No, I'm disabled because I can't get OBS to work
OBS Down syndrome I
Mean I think there's a little bit of truth to what he's saying there. I mean
There's a lot of people that just basically want
Want something to be wrong with them like oh, well, I have a you know a mental issue or I have this reading issue or I have this
Social issue or I have this daddy issue or this mommy issue or this high school issue or this college issue or a
physical issue or
Social anxiety or I'm Gen Z or I mean, I don't know you feel like this is prevalent
I think especially amongst young people they want to feel like there's something unique to them
that puts them into a special victimhood bracket that they can then use to garner sympathy and
attention. A lot of people really want attention and this is one of the ways that they try to garner
it is by saying well I have this issue or that issue or whatever when they actually don't.
And so I think Pastor Anderson is hitting on something in our society that's broken
I mean, I don't, I don't think there's anything new under the sun.
Obviously, not everybody is going to be on the exact same level, hitting on all cylinders.
Not everybody has the same level of intelligence, social IQ.
physical ability, we're all gonna have uniqueness as humanity, I think just labeling everything
a disorder and everything a disease and everything a deficiency is kind of a disservice.
You hit on this when you brought up ADHD in your sermon, and you went through some of
oppositional defiance disorder.
Sure. And you look through the supposed symptoms of this
and you're like, every child has this.
I mean, I can make this.
It's like, if your child disobeys you,
they might have ADX for version 2.0.
It's like, that's every kid. Hello.
Oppositional defiant disorder.
ODD is a mental health condition characterized by a persistent pattern of defiant, irritable,
and aggressive behavior towards authority figures such as parents, teachers, and caregivers.
I mean, that's for sure BLM and ANTIFA and every leftist.
Well, hold on now, we can't say that about BLM.
Yes.
Frequent loss of temper.
argumentativeness with adults, defiance of rules and requests, blaming others for
own mistakes. I mean, Adam blamed others for his own mistakes, irritability and
annoyance. Yeah, resentfulness, vindictiveness, aggressive behavior.
Cain seems to really struggle with these issues. Yeah, again, does this really
help anything having a diagnosis?
It's like, hey, we need to take accountability for actions.
The Bible says that foolishness is bound in the heart of a child,
but the rod of corrections will drive it far from him.
So are we expecting that children are going to automatically have good behavior?
Or like the Bible says that they're kind of foolish to start out with?
That's how they are. That's their nature.
Yeah, and I mean, it's almost like they reward a child that's shy and introverted
Like somehow a shy and introverted child is the norm, but they wouldn't even think that they would say like
Oh, this kid's like too introverted
But then it's like you have if you're too expressive your ADD if you ever bucket authority then your ODD like
Like is there anybody that's just normal what is normal anymore?
I don't know because everybody has some kind of condition.
So so then I guess normal is having a condition.
Since that's what everyone needs to have.
And not having a disorder is like white supremacy or something, probably.
Well, for sure.
But that's something you're born with, though, especially you.
I was born with.
You're born with white supremacy and racism to the max 100 percent.
I want to play this clip, too, and get your thoughts.
Hey everybody, it's Pastor Shelley and we've been having a great fire beating Baptist Fellowship Conference.
Some of the topics that have been brought up is the idea of husbands and wives separating from each other.
And it made me think of an interesting law that's from the past in America, the laws of Connecticut of 1673.
I wanted to read this statute for you.
It says, it is ordered by this court that no man or woman that hath a wife or husband
in foreign parts shall abide in the colony so separate above two years, nor shall any
that hath been three years already separated abide in this colony to separate above one
year without liberty from this court upon penalty of 40 shillings per month.
for each transgression of this order.
One third part shall be to the informer,
the other part to the public treasury.
So in America, they would find you
if you tried to separate from your spouse
and you would not stay with them.
And, you know, I've heard a pastor say,
oh, this isn't Afghanistan.
But apparently this is America.
So in America, in Connecticut,
if you separated from your spouse for a long enough period of time,
they weren't going to harbor you.
They were going to penalize you and make you pay money
so as to try and discourage people from separating from their spouse.
I find this interesting.
I want to get your perspective on this, because again, the clip is that if you need the government to help you stay, you know, with your spouse, whether that's separation or divorce, then it's, quote, Afghanistan.
But in America, if you were in Connecticut, and it was obviously separated from your spouse, they know that they would start finding you money.
So just to try and discourage you from being separated from your spouse. How is that Afghanistan?
Well, it's it's actually colonial America
It's not Afghanistan the fact that you're pointing it you're pointing to Afghanistan not you specifically but the the guy who said that is
Because he's trying to poison the well on that issue and make it seem like hey if you don't believe in
I'm sorry if you
Basically want to make it to where women can't just leave for any reason and you don't support no fault divorce
Then you are upholding
the values of Afghanistan would know actually upholding the values that this country was based on
as evidenced by the law that you read. I mean, let's just be honest, is Afghanistan actually
penalize you make you pay a fine if you separate from your spouse? I don't know. I mean, again,
I'm sure there's probably some strong statutes. Can we grok that? Divorce we should. But see,
I don't even care though. Okay, so what? Yeah, I guess I do want to have
The same law as Afghanistan about women not being able to just leave their husband at the drop of a hat.
And, what's your point? I also think sodomite should be put to death. They do that in Afghanistan.
So, what?
You gonna- you gonna get on me for that too?
says Afghanistan, there is no legal penalty or fine.
And again, I'm just trusting Grock on this.
So if someone has a different opinion
or different source, then go for it.
But I would assume Grock would be pretty reliable
on this particular question.
So it says that there's no fine or penalty.
But wait a minute.
Penalty or divorce?
Afghanistan has no fault divorce?
No, this is a separation.
Separation, all right.
But let's ask you, let's just see though,
See, I think he might have just been using the word Afghanistan just as a stereotype, like you shouldn't want it to be some hardcore
Middle Eastern country or something like that
Is his point
But but wait a minute. He's almost acting like there's something negative
about having laws concerning separation marriage and divorce and that like we're somehow he said
He said this is an Afghanistan and you shouldn't want it to be. Yeah, you shouldn't want it to be
I actually do want it to be but wait in this area. Shouldn't we want there to be some laws concerning marriage and divorce?
Yes
This doesn't seem to
Allude to what I I'd put in there. So so grok probably ignorant of some things
I would think maybe it's probably more accurate in the in the
More recent things
Let's see. Let's even get it changes mine
Well, we don't want dead air so
Just talk I'm gonna in the laws of Connecticut 1673 doesn't it say there's a fine for separation
And it's probably gonna ask me for a source and I think I can find it
Well, hey, it disagrees with me
While you do that I want to mention real quick
I want to mention Pastor Russell sermon the morning Aaron. I thought that was a great sermon as well and
There was something he brought up that stuck out to me when he talked about an Exodus 29, I believe, when the priests are being consecrated, that they were consecrated on one side.
Of course, the blood sprinkled on the right ear, the right thumb, the right toe.
And the reason why they were anointed on one side is because we have dual natures as a Christian.
The spirit has been revived
When you get saved you have that revived spirit which cannot sin
It's perfect the new man inside you and then you still battle with the flesh as well
So the dual nature of the Christian the fact that that's pictured through the anointing of the priests
Was a really cool nugget in that sermon so shout out to Pastor Russell in his sermon adorning Aaron
I would check it out if you haven't already from the FBBF
Yeah, he made some good points in that sermon.
Um, I, I feel like, you know, when he was talking about the aspect of the pastor actually
loving you by being willing to preach, say the things that they need to say and how it's
because they love you and other people that don't, it's just because they don't really
love you.
Yeah.
And, and you know, you're a pastor, so you can relate to that when you're preaching hard
applicable to people in the room,
your motivation, obviously you're trying to serve Christ,
you're preaching the word of God, I get all that,
but in addition to that stuff,
your motivation is love.
I mean, I'm speaking for you there,
but I would imagine you're not disagreeing with that.
I mean, I don't think that, like, necessarily,
because you don't always know what applies to people.
Right, I know that people think they're like everything's about them, but I don't always necessarily know how a certain thing is gonna apply to us
You know a particular individual and so for from my perspective. It's like
I'm just trying really hard to communicate with the Bible says
But I think it's more that attitude right like I'm standing in the pulpit of afraid to
Hold back or not say something the Bible says and by and turn that then is the most loving thing you can do
It's just giving people what whatever God's saying and then the opposite person is like
I got to be careful in how I prepare my message because I don't want to just say something in the Bible
That's gonna offend somebody even though it may be true even though it's accurate
or maybe even God wants to communicate this for some reason I'm deciding that I'm not going to
communicate that whether that be I'm worried about them leaving I'm worried about them not tithing
I'm worried about repercussions I'm worried about being a hypocrite I'm worried about not doing it
like I think that there's a multi multiplicity of reasons and then that all goes back to selfishness
whereas love is basically saying hey I'm just going to tell you whatever the Bible says whether I
whether it feels good or not you know my old pastor and the only reason I even feel comfortable
saying this is because he ended up ditching the King James Bible and turned out to be bad so
that's the reason why I would even bring this up but my old pastor one time he was going to preach
in 1 Thessalonians 5 and bring up fornication and he was like worried about it he confided in me
Because the sermon was next Sunday and he's just like I'm in I'm gonna have to hit on a controversial topic. I don't know
I don't know if I should say it
I'm thinking like it's about fornication. Just rip face, but there's this attitude where they're afraid. They're afraid of just preaching
clear Bible
Well, do you remember what it was?
Just flee fornication
He didn't want to touch on fornication necessarily he's he's worried
Yeah, he was worried about it and
He knows I'm sure that there's people that were in his church that were doing that and
So he was kind of afraid to preach that
controversial topic for him
Is is just don't don't fornicate
Yes, did he end up preaching it?
He did he preached against fornication actually
The week one week later and actually like the sermon. It was a really good sermon, but beforehand he was a little
trepidatious about it. That's for sure
What is give us some thoughts on Pastor Thompson's sermon how about that I'll put you on the hot seat
Yeah, absolutely. So he preached about scary verses and
I think that
You know, he did a great job of going through a lot of the
A lot of the different scriptures that people ought to be fearful of in the sense that they demonstrate God's judgment, in some cases his wrath as well, but in Hebrews chapter 10 he brings up what he thought willful sin could be pertaining to
and connected it to forsaking the assembling of the church and how in forsaking the assembling of ourselves together as the manner of some is you could incur for yourself severe chastisement.
And how forsaking church is a very serious sin and that should be a scripture that scares us as Christians because Hebrews chapter 10 is for the save.
And he brought that up and he preached against Joe Jones, which I really appreciated because that guy has totally lost his mind and deserves to be rebuked whenever the opportunity arises.
He brings up 1st Corinthians chapter 3 and verse 17 about defiling the temple of God, how the Bible says him shall God destroy.
And I like the part where he said, you know, that isn't about eating McDonald's.
So I kind of went, all right, thankfully, that's not about McDonald's or else it would be about me.
It's definitely about you when McDonald's comes up.
Well, when a preacher so much as others the Lord McDonald's everyone in the church turns and looks at me
So
That's the reputation. I have he brings up not tithing and how important it is to give unto the Lord
What belongs to him?
He also brought up the concept of delivering someone who is in violation of the
Statutes in 1st Corinthians 5 delivering them unto Satan for the destruction of the flash
He brought up the scary verse about how if you eat and drink unworthily the Lord's Supper
That you can end up dying or getting very sick and he said that that could mean
That the person who ate and drank unworthily was on the first Corinthians 5 list and I remember you preaching that pastor Shelley
So I told him when we were out to lunch later
I said, hey, you know my pastor preached the same on that one. So it's nice to see you all in agreement there
I can keep going if you want
Yeah, I think you're fine. I okay. I'm just I'm just mad at Grock because I was showing it
I
Feel like I was just showing it
This this thing and it just won't agree
so I was just like basically I kept asking it and it was just like it just says it's for fornication and
I'm like
He says, husbands and wives not to live separate.
I mean, I'm not like making that up.
You can see that very clearly, can't you?
I'm gonna adjust it so maybe it's more centered.
I'm not seeing anything actually.
That's right, you can't see anything.
I forgot.
You're not in the huddle.
You have to get in the huddle with me.
I can't do it because it won't work.
Husbands and wives not to live separate.
It is ordered by this court that no man or woman
that have the wife or husband in foreign parts
shall abide in the colony so separate above two years.
And then it says, nor shall any that have been there
three years already separated abide in this colony
to separate above one year without liberty
from this court upon penalty of 40 shillings per month
for each transgression of this order,
one third part where I shall be to the informer,
the other part of the public treasury.
So again,
It says, and even in the column, husbands and wives not to list separate above two years
penalty for 40 shillings per month.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the law.
It seems pretty clear to me, but either way, you shouldn't separate from your spouse.
And regardless, I don't care where the law appears, if it's in Afghanistan, if it's in Iraq, if it's anywhere, Europe, Canada, Colonial America,
I can't convince AI of things that are clear because it doesn't actually have a brain.
You know, I'm kind of curious about AI in general, like, I was reading some people saying like, AI is already kind of almost maxed out that
because like, if we start giving it more and more
Data like people are thinking like we're thinking like oh it keeps getting better the more data
We add but then some people are noticing that when you give it more and more data
It actually gets worse again, so it's like it's not improving anymore. It's actually getting worse because it can't
It still doesn't actually have a brain, so it can't process necessarily everything the same way
I'll be first admit that it's super awesome. I mean
hands and text it really sucks at with video and images,
but like just some of the things it does,
you're just kind of like blown away.
Yeah, I don't think it's a great writer.
So it's not necessarily the best at copywriting
at least right now.
However, I think the one worry I have
are the jobs that could end up being replaced
as a result of AI.
That's a little bit of a concern.
Well, it could be concerning that if people don't understand AI, just adopt it.
And then we've replaced all these jobs with AI, but AI sucks and doesn't work.
And now we've just displaced a whole bunch of labor and it actually kind of sucks and
things aren't going well.
But they don't really care because they just are technocrats and these guys just own me
Yeah, whatever increases profits. I'm also concerned about the rise of AI slop on YouTube and other
Content creation seems like media is just being saturated with junk
Yeah, a lot of it AI generated and so the human element when it's removed it leads to less creative work and
I don't really like the direction we're going there.
It's like, to me, it's almost like the microwave.
It's like the microwave is not necessarily a bad thing,
but just like microwaved meals are just not the same.
And then they taste way worse and then like think think about like you made a meal and then you microwaved it
And then you didn't eat it and then you microwaved it again
And then you like microwaved it again like sometimes that's why I feel like AI is this is like this fourth removed
Microwaved meal and it starts to get really funky and weird and it's like it's like it's degrading and quality and
Creativity every single time
It's an appropriate analogy.
It's an appropriate analogy because you're taking information
and you're able to just very quickly, basically,
I'm sorry, you're prompting it
and it's able to quickly give you information,
allow the microwave quickly heating food up,
but the quality is not so good.
However, you look at predictions for AI,
they say it's gonna get better and better and better.
And a lot of people are saying that it could get so smart,
That it overtakes humans and kills them all skynet
Yeah, I guess that's what it's called. I'm not I'm not too familiar with this
Is this like an Alex Jones take or something
No, I mean just people say this stuff look a lot of the doomsday predictions out in the world of that AI will get so smart
That it wipes out humanity, which I don't think it's gonna happen. I mean, I believe
Obviously the word of God when it comes to what will actually wipe out humanity, but there is this fear that AI could get smart enough to just overtake humans completely and rebel against them sort of like the matrix.
Are you familiar with that.
Isn't that the storyline of the matrix I've never seen the matrix but I know the storyline is that machines get so smart that they take humans out isn't that the idea.
I feel like it's hard to fully unpack what the Matrix is really trying to present.
What's interesting about the Matrix is it's almost like...
A mockery of the Bible. I think I think it was written by two trannies or something like this
I remember someone brought this up to me or something or there's like a tranny like heavily involved in this but
you know
most of it is just like a Bible
Bizarro world because
You have certain elements like the main the main protagonist is the one
Okay, so so good and you have this overlap of like crisis the messiah. He's the one and then neo is the one
Then his companion is Trinity, you know, like that's real interesting naming, right?
He he has to kind of like
realize that the world he's living in is kind of a facade and there's this real
there really something underneath the hood and I think you could look at that
as like the difference between the spiritual realm and like the physical
realm and it's like there it's kind of like in the physical realm everything's
not real
But, you know, in the other realm it is real, so it's kind of like these two parallels and
everybody's plugged into the quote, matrix.
And the matrix is like a representation of the world itself.
In the movie, they're trying to unplug from the system, and then they're trying to march
on Zion, which is another really interesting concept, right?
So like, you can you can really see the just like the huge overlaps.
from this
The one is supposed to end up dying
To restart the matrix and what's what's interesting is there's like this one scene with agent Smith and
Of course, I think he's to represent the devil
You know, the S probably is there to represent, you know, something for Satan, he's, you know, Smith, but
Agent Smith and then here's the thing all the agents they
Possess people's bodies at will like in the matrix system. They can just possess someone's body and take over
which again is just like the manifestation of like how devils and demons work. They just take
over people's bodies and then they control them at their own will. But Agent Smith is to destroy
the one and when he destroys the one, it restarts the matrix. And they talk about like they get to
this one section called the architect and the architect is in this room and it's like this great
It's like it seems like the great white throne judgment or something like that and the architects there
And he's just basically describing everything and they talk about how there's been these different matrix
Systems that they've had and the first one was perfect and then they say how the perfect failed and the perfect wasn't right
So it's like they're kind of like
Alluding to like the Garden of Eden where everything's perfect and everything was good
but he talks about how it was actually negative and then they introduce free will
and so they've had like multiple matrixes I think I think they elude like seven and don't quote me
on some of this because you know it's been a while since I've seen those films but
that the biblical overtones in the movie are just like
It's hard to even think that anybody wouldn't see it.
It's just like so over the top, like just in your face,
just all the different elements.
It for sure sounds like a mockery of the word of God
based off of your description there
under the veneer of entertainment.
And you see this a lot with the reprobates in Hollywood.
It's like the system is designed to where the one
always comes into the matrix, dies,
and then the matrix restarts.
And then they have to constantly, and they have like this oracle, which is supposed to predict the future and there's all these different random things in there.
It's, it's, it would be blasphemous if you were to like actually try to relate it to exactly.
you know, biblical things, but it kind of seems like the architect is kind of like a representation
of God the Father. You kind of have like Neo the One as being like the Christ of the movie.
I don't know. Maybe you could argue like the Oracle or something's kind of like the Holy Spirit
or something. I don't know if that's the right analogy or not, but you kind of have these three
and then obviously even have a woman in there. It's like the Trinity. That's what her name is, but
And, you know, you have this kind of love story in there.
I think at one point, Neo has to like rescue Trinity from the dead or something like that,
or bring her back or rescue her from almost dying.
I can't remember.
But they're going to just destroy the physical system of all these computers.
So I don't know I can't remember because the ending was confusing and I think the ending was like
confusing on purpose
Because they wanted you to I guess have your own like some movies they end where they don't really explain it
And then there's everybody has their own interpretation of the things or like their own idea of how those things went down or something
Yeah, I'm familiar with what you're talking about
It ends almost on a cliffhanger, but the cliffhanger is you could just plug in whatever you think the ending actually was
Yeah, it's like did we restart into a new matrix?
Are we is it over? Is it never gonna end?
Did I could always assume everybody died
I don't know.
I'm sure somebody out there is like really opinionated and is like, this is exactly
what happened.
I can't believe you don't understand this.
But yeah.
How do you not understand?
It's like, well, because we actually, you know, focus our minds on things that matter.
This person says in the chat room, humans are, are humans to AI or like humans to ants.
If we needed to build a road, we plow right through the ant colony and the same type of
This other person says it is written by twin brothers who became trannies
Yeah Cameron says the Baptist bias movie review
Person says it's a blasphemous movie their core audience was Andrew Tate
Why Andrew Tate
That seems weird
Don't watch the new many tricks. There is a fourth movie. I don't know about it. I guess they made a new one
So there you go. I don't know how we ended up on the matrix, but
Hey, I that's the beauty of yeah, Skynet. You know, I do you buy this idea of the AI takeover? No, it's it's not real
I
Think what is real though is that?
bad people
Could use AI
to
Trick people into thinking that it's taking over or doing more than it really is
But I mean you have a lot of movies like that are like predictive programming
You could argue or like trying to prepare the populace for these things like have you heard of eagle eye with Shia the buff or
Minority report or obviously the Matrix brought up Terminator with Skynet
A lot of these movies are alluding to some similar overlaps, like Eagle Eye is this AI system that was brought on board to
essentially eliminate threats, but then at some point it deems all of the
president in the cabinet to be a domestic threat to the Constitution, so it's trying to take them out.
And I'm like, well, at least this is kind of accurate, you know, it's like, but then the whole movie's premise is like trying to stop the AI from eliminating the president and all the higher ups because they're a domestic terrorist or something like that.
Pretty interesting minority reports also interesting because it's the pre-crime division. So they're trying to stop
People from committing murder by arresting people before they commit murder based on their ideas and I'm like
I could see governments trying to claim that they can do that even though it's not real,
but they're claiming that and they're like, oh, Ben said some mean things and goes to
step back to search.
So we had to arrest him for pre-crime because he's probably, you know, a bad guy.
He was going to commit murder and we stopped it and like, I could see how the governments
would want to do that kind of stuff.
Not out of the realm of possibility
Yeah, someone's going to buy sneakers late at night. You know, they got to watch out for Ben
They got to watch out for me apparently. Yeah, I think that's a you know wise move. Don't don't mess with Ben
so
That's pretty legit FBBF big news. It was great. I I don't know we thought about going into the Alex
Oh one thing. I don't know if we're gonna go too much into it. We might wrap up
My wife said, we should leave them wanting more.
I don't know.
What are your thoughts on that?
Did she say that right now?
Like, like her, is she listening to this right now?
And that's her feedback live on the air.
She said, she said that before the show ever started.
Oh, I'd see.
With all the technical difficulties,
she probably would have just said, pull the plug, you know?
It's, it's, it's a goner.
Might as well get rid of it.
Well, a funny story about Mrs. Shedellie is she put down
on her Facebook page one time, 10 things she doesn't like.
I think one of them was podcasts, and I remember thinking at the time, because I had a podcast
going every week called The Sword of the Spirit.
I said it to myself, man, I feel like my toes are getting stepped on here.
It was a personal attack.
Yeah, it was, but it's okay.
It was just dedicated to you.
You said everybody thinks everything's about them, so there's an example of that.
Someone said something about, isn't this what Elon Musk wants with brain ship implants?
I don't know. I mean, I don't even know what the good narrative would be.
I could, I can get behind brain implants.
Only in the context of somebody having just like absolute neurological disabilities
Like obviously if someone was blind and they could someone's gonna clip that
Pastor Shelly supports the mark of the bees. Yes
Yeah, but are you gonna really get mad at somebody if they were physically disabled?
they somehow could have a surgery put some chip in their brain and allowed them
to see again or allowed them to walk again or allowed them to you know have
returned to normal bodily functions like I don't see how I could get mad at that
or think that there was something wrong with that no obviously not
I do think though that a lot of the other stuff like I don't want to just sync up to my iPhone Bluetooth and play music in my head
Or something to play music in your head or phone with your brain
I think this is what governments would want is if you could actually
Communicate this is somebody from brain chip to brain chip without actually having to speak or something
Like I can think and you can hear my thought
in some way through the brain trip, the brain chip.
I mean, that could be a tech,
that could be like a military advantage, I guess.
Seems creepy, but.
Sure, it is a little creepy, but.
Is it possible though,
that you could have the brain chip
and if it's capable of capturing your thoughts
that it's then putting it in a computer
and then like literally the government's just.
Tracing your thoughts and then you actually could be arrested for thought crimes or thought
Well, that could play into the end times if everybody is chipped
Maybe that's part of the mark of the beast is that it could actually enable people to read the thoughts of others
Even those who don't have the brain chip and then that's how they figure out if you're a Christian and they don't even let you
Go and get the mark of the beast and bow down to the abomination of desolation even if you tried
As a result of that, I don't know. Just bit balling going weird and sci-fi here. I
Think that seems a little far-fetched, but I don't I don't know I
Thought about being a hole
Asking if people thought that the end times is gonna be the next 10 years
The next 50 years or longer than 50 years
I'm kind of curious. What do you think about that longer? You think the 50 plus?
Yeah, I would say 50 plus for sure. What about our audience? Does anybody have an opinion on that?
I like what this person says in the chat. AI could be used by the anti-crisis to be the image of the beast from Revelation 1315.
That's exactly what I think. I think artificial intelligence will be used to make the abomination of desolation speak.
So that the image of the beast speaks like the Bible talks about. But is it is it possible that it's is supernatural?
I don't think so. I look at it as more of a technological marvel.
The supernatural aspect is bowing down.
Yeah, but okay, let me ask you this.
There's a spiritual element to it though because you have to bow down and worship it.
I think that's the spiritual element.
Okay, but let me let me ask a few questions.
The Egyptians, the magicians in Egypt, they turned water into blood.
Did they really do that or was it a trick?
It was a trick
Okay, so
Why why why not do the trick of turning full, you know lice into or dust in the lice then?
Because they were incapable
They can't create life only God can
But that's it, but they weren't doing the other ones. You said they were tricking so why can't they just trick on the others?
I'm not sure okay, how did they it's okay for me to say I don't know how did they turn their rods into serpents
I don't know was it slight of hand or was it actually demonic I?
Just assume with Matt with magic. I just say I really don't know
I think they did some kind of magic and I have no idea exactly how because people do this kind of thing today
I mean didn't the witch it in or didn't the witch it in or bring up Samuel
That one's a good example. And yes, I do think there was certainly, look, I know that the satanic
elements out there that have
real power. I know I'm not gonna deny that. It's in the Bible for sure.
Doesn't the, um, I mean, the Bible says about the Antichrist that he receives a deadly wound and then he comes back to life. Isn't that,
I mean, isn't that a miracle?
Lying signs and wonders.
Are the side of the line? There will be miracles. No, no
I think that there's antichrist and I think they're gonna be doing miracles for sure
And I think that they're gonna be doing it through the power of the devil the antichrist himself to answer your question
Yes, I think that he will be possessed. This is my opinion
He will be possessed by the devil, which is why he's called the son of perdition and in that way he will rise again
But this time with Satan possessing him
I've always kind of leaned towards the fact that these things are they really happened
Like the magicians really did some you know some of that stuff in Egypt and magicians again it was that one I'm I
Thought it was they were doing some weird magic. That's why they couldn't turn the dirt into the lice
But I'm open to being wrong on that and and thinking about it more
But of course the concept of satanic people and satanic elements
Manifesting some weird spiritual things and I mean doesn't the guy doesn't the guy that's got the legion like no one can bind him
Like yeah, it's almost like he has super strength or something. Absolutely that you see that with demon possessed people. Yeah, absolutely
So I think that stuff is there and I think the Antichrist himself will be exhibiting his power in that way
I'm not gonna deny that. I just think when it comes to the image of the beast
That seems to be more of a
What about the devil the devil it says he took Jesus up onto the pinnacle of the temple and showed him all the kingdoms of the world
And I'm gonna misquote that in a moment or something
Yeah, well, that's because the earth is flat. So he's able to see everything it. I didn't think about that
I
Think I I can pull it up. You can't see it
Well, we have some answers here from the question you asked earlier
This person says maybe the next 10 years because it doesn't seem as though our laws matter much anymore in terms of when the end times may begin
Bro J stew says the one world currency is ready to go digital currency
So mark is easy now and then frozen. Unfortunately. We're back to frozen again. Do you want to check on OBS?
It it looks good I
Can't tell how it's frozen
Maybe they're behind. Oh, no, we're looking good actually we're looking good
Not we're fine. We're fine. Not frozen for me. All right. We're fine. We're okay
It says it says he took him to an exceeding high mountain and show them all the kingdoms of the world and the glory of them
Is this just from afar or do you actually give him a vision I
Mean, I think it's pretty interesting that it's just like the Bible says the devil
Take them up into the holy city and set at them on the pinnacle of the temple
Yeah, probably some kind of vision of the whole the whole earth
But did he literally did the devil literally pick up Jesus and fly with him over there or like transport him instantly or something?
Probably probably transported him
But here's the thing the Bible in Matthew 24 literally says for their shallow rise false Christ and false prophets
And she'll and she'll show great signs and wonders
In so much that if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect it says in verse 24
So, yeah, there are going to be miraculous things that happen in the end times that are so believable that even the elect would be fooled by it if it were possible for them to be fooled by it.
So they're going to be supernatural things that happen courtesy of false Christ and false prophets. I understand that.
I'm just not applying that rule to the abomination of desolation personally.
It is always possible that I'm wrong there as I think it's I mean you being wrong is always a possibility. I'm just
What's that supposed to mean? I feel like it's a thinly veiled attack right there
I didn't feel like it was that thin it seemed like it was like really straightforward
That was an open attack and I'm now offended actually. Okay good
But yeah, I mean like the Bible say though you you messed up my train of thought. I was gonna make a good point probably
What was I saying when a prophet me get in the name of the Lord of the thing following order come to pass nor come to pass the thing
No, no
I'm okay. What I'm saying is pure conjecture is what is what I was gonna finish with is pure conjecture. So
I'm not married to this idea about the bomb nation
About AI specifically
Exactly about it being an AI thing
I'm just saying says if demons can take over AI then the AI image and revelation could be a supernatural thing
I need my Bible. I feel like it's like more like Deuteronomy like 12 13 14 or something
It's talking about someone
Some kind of a profit. Yeah, it's 13. I don't know why I couldn't get the yeah, it's due to
It's a wonder sometimes I like use synonyms in my head and I can't remember how to look it up
Okay, if there rise among your profit and the sign or the wonder come to pass
That's the real profit or a dreamer of no
No, if there arise among your profit or a dreamer of dreams and give it the sign or wonder and the sign or the wonder come
To pass where we speak under these saying let us go after other gods
Which thou has not known and let us serve them that should not harken to the words of that prophet
Oh, yeah, yeah, this is the false prophet. I've always thought it was an interesting passage because it's basically saying like
someone could literally do a miracle and
You still don't
Go with it if it's in the name of a false religion or false God or something
Sure, well, we have a more sure word of prophecy as well
So but it would be weird like to me it could just be like oh someone does a sign or wonder
That's not the name of the Lord like it didn't really happen as a trick
but
I'm sure that happens. I'm sure that people are doing trick and deception and stuff, but it seems like there's like real miracles that the
Enemy can do I think there are real nerve was the enemy could do right? I do agree with that
I think Deuteronomy 13 is clear because the sign or the wonder
Even if it does come to pass and they're doing it to try to promote a false God a false religion
You're not supposed to harken under them. The scripture is clear there like the lying signs and wonders to me is not that it's it's not real
It's that it's it's lying in the sense that
It's not by the authority of God, and it's not God who's doing it, it's a devil who's doing it,
and it's trying to trick you and deceive you into a lie, by believing a lie.
Because it's like the context of Second Thessalonians is like that they should believe a lie,
that they all might be damned, right? I can probably pull it up.
Who's coming whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders
But it says working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders
It sounds like the devil is doing stuff like he has power
He has signs and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish because they receive not the love of the truth
That they might be saved and for this cause God to send them a strong delusion that they should believe a lie
I believe the lie is that
that not that the miracle didn't really happen,
but it's that the person doing it is claiming to be God
and there's not really God.
It's not really the power of God.
It's the power of the devil.
Well, I think you'll appreciate this point.
Revelation chapter 12 brings up the fact
that the devil will attempt to flood the whole earth.
And I would say-
But that could be naturalistic too, I get it.
Like it could just be through nuking caps,
the whole rice caps or something.
Well, whatever the case may be, there's obviously some kind of supernatural element that would serve as a catalyst for that to happen.
Whether he supernaturally melts the ice caps and makes sea levels rise or whatever the case may be, there's certainly a supernatural element there
that enables that to occur. So the Revelation 12 is an example, I think.
We didn't get much.
comments on the timeline.
This person says, I'm half expecting to see Israel try to take out a missile and oops,
we hit the dome of the rock.
Time to build that new temple.
If that happens, I would expect the Daily Sacrifice to start the clock.
The Daily Sacrifice does start the clock because if you read Deuteronomy chapter 8...
It makes it clear that the daily sacrifices will start 250 days into Daniel's 70th week
So as soon as that begins, of course, we may not know the exact day that it starts, but as soon as that begins
You can start your clock to the rapture. Are you saying are you saying Daniel 12?
Is that what you're bringing up Daniel chapter 8 Daniel chapter 8?
I can bring up the verse if you'd like because it says in from that time that the daily sacrifice should be taken away and the
Abomination that make a desolate set up. There should be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. That's that's that's the second
That's the second half of Daniel 70th week right there Daniel 12, but chapter 8
Let me see if I could pull that verse up right here. Where is it at?
It says I probably have it on the screen, but you can't see it
Are you looking at verses like 11 12 13 14
Yeah, right here verse number 13
I'm gonna read how long should be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice and the transgression
Desolation to give both the sanctuary and the host to be. Yeah, exactly now look at verse 14
Look at verse 14, and he said it to me onto two thousand and three hundred days. Okay, so
He says this to he said that all of that in verse 13
What does that when does that time period starts it starts?
When the daily sacrifice begins because it's saying hey, how long is the vision concerning the daily sacrifice?
Then it goes through the midpoint of Daniel's 73 when it talks about the transgression of desolation, etc
And what is the answer?
2300 days now. What's interesting about that is if you
take your calculator
If you take your calculator route, got one.
I've got a big calculator on the screen. I know you can't see it, but...
What do we do, Ben? Can you hear me?
What in the world I lost them for a second
Technical difficulties of course
See if we can get been back in here
There we go
Sorry, can you hear me? Yeah, I got disconnected for a second. Let me let me go through this again
So two thousand three hundred days that includes what does that encompass the daily sacrifice the transgression of desolation?
Etc. Well, if you take two thousand five hundred and fifty
Which is the length of time of Daniel's 70th week in its totality and he subtract that by
2300 what do you get?
250 so therefore
250 days into Daniel's 70th week the daily sacrifice will begin and
At that point yeah, you can set your clock for the rapture the thing is though
We won't know when the first day of those daily sacrifices are that's my opinion. That's my conjecture
Sounds like you just believe whatever you want
Don't we all
Yeah
But that was the cat what I'm trying to show with the calculator is 2,500 minus or excuse me 25
50 25 50 minus 2,300 25 50
Minus 23. I had to make a few adjustments on the fly. I don't know if people can even see
The show if we someone says McDonald's break. No, no, no, not tonight
Did it is it still working is it frozen let's ask them
Well, I can check the stream. No, we're good. All I know is that our crew is the best ever so
Without our crew our show would be a train wreck talking about tonight. We went off without a hitch without a problem
Maybe we go to stream art next. All right. Well, I think we've wasted everybody's time enough and
We appreciate you bearing with some technical difficulties wasted. Yeah, I know some tough language
No, I think we we had some good points and I appreciate the conversation about the FBF
It was a huge success. This podcast was not necessarily the as successful as the conference, but that's okay
Bab this I mean it would be kind of sad if they I want to say this though
It would be a little set if a podcast was more successful than a conference.
That's all I'm going to say.
Thank you guys so much for tuning in.
Thanks for your chats.
Before we completely finish, if there's something you want us to do an episode on, if there's
a topic, if there's a subject, throw it in the chat because we're thinking about doing
the Baptist Bias season November, December, and January.
So we're going to come up, it's coming up pretty soon, another 10 episode season.
I don't even know what season we're on.
I was like trying to think about it.
Are we on like five, six, seven?
Somewhere in there?
I think I think we've had more than that. I think it's like season five at least but
I've really appreciated our crew throughout this entire stream because I realize how amazing they are
And, uh, how terrible I am at running the show and well, hey, once we go, once we go
stream yard, I'm telling you, you're going to be like, wow, what have I been missing
in my whole life?
This is amazing.
It's so streamlined.
It is easy to use.
It's user friendly.
Let's see if we can put the logos on there at least or something and then that'll be
a little great.
Don't even worry about it.
This stream did that itself, but it's okay.
Thanks, guys, for tuning in.
Check out Steadfast Baptist Church tomorrow.
I'll be preaching.
One of the sermons I...
No.
You said you were doing Jude.
Jude on Wednesday.
Not tomorrow.
Oh, you're right. You're right. Sorry.
Ben writes my sermons, folks. So he got confused about I just had a brain malfunction and thought
tomorrow was Wednesday for some reason. No, no, no, we're gonna I'm gonna be preaching
one sermon on on like an overview of the Gospels. So
That'll be a pretty cool sermon
Yeah, looking forward to it got another sermon that I'm cooking on so I
Know that sound booth always wants my sermon title and chapter, but I wait until the very end
It's just I prefer not to know for topical
On Wednesday night, that doesn't work. We're going through a series, but when it comes to topical,
I actually prefer not to even know. I want to be surprised when you drop that title behind the pulpit.
So I already ruined it for you. Is what you're saying?
You did. Yeah. So I might not show up for that one. Okay. It's already spoiled.
Good.
Get about that.
Please don't come.
The other one.
Hey, that sounded a little vicious there.
I don't know.
We might start just doing some random streams.
Maybe we'll try StreamYard, but we're planning on trying to do some more debates in the end
of the fall.
We'll do another whole season, November, December, January, anybody got someone said
we need to have a season episode on each episode, any topics, any guess other than the Donald
I think Trump would be a good guess, but if we can't get him on we could always try Putin
That would be nice Netanyahu a little bit Netanyahu we could debate Netanyahu on Zionism. Yeah
John Rich somebody brought up I would love to have him on that'd be awesome. He's got some good music
Oh, I got a picture from our I just got a picture from our Mexico crew
That's right.
We have a mission trip going on in Mexico as we speak.
That's going on for the next week, isn't it?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know exactly how many people aren't it?
It looks like maybe close to 15 people are in Mexico on our Mexico missions trip.
And that's really cool.
I'm excited to hear what they accomplish down there.
Hey, a Q&A would be nice.
Who in Carole and Hayden McDougal? I don't know Hayden McDougal at all
Who's John Rich country singer country singer oh
Man the only country song I know is a gently led mister or whatever
By nifb parody love that channel is that do we need do we need a little bit of a new happy parody in our life to finish the show
I think we finished the show with an nifb parody song. Oh
man
Gently led mister favorite nifb parody song chat room help us out here
That's style to any set of keys with custom keychips don't you just love YouTube ads?
I love YouTube ads, especially when they're weird and I'm on the air live, and it's like, why is this playing right now?
I like John Rich saved by the cage
You hear in that country music
I love this song
Ranting about pastors kicking up dust a busy body with a tongue so sharp Tommy just drums on his old guitar
Oh
Cassandra's the boss he's her favorite
You know, I have to say it's pretty nice of her to gently lead him, you know, at least, at least he's not being drug around or whatever.
So we have to give some credit where credit is due.
Give credit where credit is due.
You got another song.
Temple Zero
Freaking, what's it called?
Temple Zero Showdown, the greatest song ever.
Shit, showdown?
Temple Zero Showdown is the greatest song of all time.
Within the realm of A.I.D.
All right, we'll get some show down here for you. Oh, I love this one
It's just cuz the background
You're like a little bit behind, so you're an echo.
Temple Zero, where's it at?
Jerusalem, America, haven't that?
Back to Tommy's thinking of the city update, bro.
Real Temple Zero.
It's hard to play.
I don't even think I've ever heard this song I'm glad that I could finally show
it to you then.
Oh, thanks so much, guys.
That song gets me fired up.
I want to go and dig for Temple Zero.
We're going to just let the song play us out.
And thanks for joining us on the Baptist bias.
It was weird, but it was epic at the same time.
Maybe we'll try StreamYard next time,
but hey, I like that we can incorporate
some Temple music here, some Temple Zero showdown.
Anything else you want to say before I mute your mic?
Temple, on Temple Mount, period.
Everybody's got a perspective out there.
Some people even believe that Temple Zero is real.
But if you're skeptical, you need to join us and get the Baptist bias.
Have a good night, guys.