than a log.
X is the ultimate free speech platform. You can say anything you want as long as Elon Musk approves
Technically his advertisers bankers mod team a small country in the Middle East
They all have to agree as well
But as long as you say whatever they want you to say it's free
Well, it's for you know, $17 a month
$1,000 for businesses, but that's besides the point freedom
of speech, not freedom of reach is what's being promised here. Yet not all speech is welcome.
Ex-users will no longer be able to post anything offensive to cash register employees at 7-11,
for example. Additionally, ex-users will no longer be able to use triggering language such as the
Dung, dung festival, dung party, cow piss, cow piss drinker, Hinduism stinks, or anything related to hygiene.
Anything at all in that realm will be censored immediately.
Now these new policies will make America great again.
In fact, what was so crucial to the founding of America was Hinduism.
Now, there's definitely not an agenda to de-Christianize our country, reduce the patriotic population
and weaponize tech companies against the American people.
Elon Musk, who is from South Africa, is the most loyal American patriot we could ever
ask for.
He meets with global leaders all year to make it clear that he's not a globalist.
And those who resist free speech will be banned from the app and forced to go to rumble.
where they can watch the Baptist bias.
Thanks everybody joining us on the Baptist bias and it's not too bad of an alternative if you get banned on every other
Platform and you can't watch any other show that you're stuck with us here on the Baptist bias here on rumble
And praise God for rumble that we can still reach
1.5 viewers at a time, but it's great to have our co-host been the Baptist. How's it going?
It's going great
I'm excited to be here. Another edition of the Baptist Bias.
And you brought up being on Rumble. That's the only place that'll allow us to broadcast live anymore.
We're too hot, too spicy for YouTube, apparently.
But you know what? We're gonna keep moving forward anyway.
And I echo the sentiment. Hey, praise God that we still have Rumble.
I guess it's that spicy curry that they just can't handle. What do you think?
It could be the curry, it could be the chicken, tikka masala, it could be the
samosas, it could be a whole number, a whole host of things, but at the end of
the day, no matter what it is, clearly, they don't have the Baptist bias over on
YouTube. Why is it that we can't say cow...
piss drinker, like what's what's the problem with that?
Well, it could be offensive to a certain demographic
that adhere to a certain religion in a certain country.
As you can see, I'm putting on my political hat
so that I don't offend anybody
by being as not specific as humanly possible.
But as I said, there may be certain demographics
in certain areas of the world
that may not like that language.
And so as a result, X is making sure that you can't use it.
Now, of course, our show could be deemed offensive by individuals who are easily offended, people
who don't like what we have to say, don't like the Bible, are leftists, Democrats, effeminate,
eat soy, or are really pretty much like garbage religion.
Was there any, is there really any other people that could be easily offended here, Ben?
I think you pretty much covered it.
I don't know of anyone else really that we can add to that list, but one thing I will
tell you is that on this show you get the truth 100% and sometimes that truth is going
to smack you across the face and it may hurt a little bit at first, but at the end of the
day what we are giving you is the truth.
And I really look forward to what we have on deck tonight.
Some people say, oh, you can't just generalize a whole group of people like that.
I'm reminded of places in the Bible where Jesus called pretty much the entire Gentile population dogs.
He says it's not, uh, you know, basically he's talking to this woman and he says it's not meat to give the children's bread unto dogs.
He says give not that which is holy unto the dogs.
And of course, that doesn't mean that every Gentile was a bad person.
Of course, many of them got saved and some of them were great people.
But just generally speaking, the heathen were labeled pretty derogatory terms.
And so you may even find that here on the show.
And sometimes when we talk about things that we use these quote
stereotypes or generic language, but we have to realize that
stereotypes exist for a reason, right, Ben?
I mean, that magic carpet didn't fly itself over here.
No, I mean, I think there's a reason why
Certain people will I'm gonna start speaking a little more specific here people are afraid of Arabs at the airport
And you know what? It's because they think that they did 9-11 or they think that they have a propensity to blow themselves up and look
Here's the thing
Islamists, let's use them as an example, they are violent people, period.
There's no argument there. A lot of the time. These radical Islamists are very violent and so
when people are from the Middle East or when they are Arab,
then they tend to think, okay, who is this person and in some settings
they may get a little worried about them or believe that they have more of a propensity to do violence.
We see what's going on with
Europe today with the invasion coming from the Middle East and the clash of
civilizations that's happening there so my whole point is is that I think that
some cultures get a bad rap but I believe they get a bad rap for a good
reason and when you want to talk about India specifically their culture I
think has a lot of issues that stem from the false religion of Hinduism
Right, of course, it's gonna be good Indian people. We don't hate Indian people, but I do have a
Detest for the religion of Hinduism. I think that bathing in cows is one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard of
And of course if you watch any video on YouTube where you type in Indian street food
you should want to throw up immediately. So it's not really my fault that those things exist, but
it made me sneeze apparently. Of course, we're giving some caveats to our show this evening.
It's going to be pretty spicy. We're bringing on a special guest, Dominic Michael Trippi is
supposed to be joining us here shortly. He's pretty popular on X when he's not getting banned and
censored, but we're hoping that the snow didn't keep him in
too long. I'm kind of curious from our audience. We've got several people here watching live.
Did anybody get snow out there? I'm kind of just curious. I know we're kind of down in the south
in Texas, but I heard we're getting some snow.
I heard that like lots of people were getting the freeze
and we may even get some of that weather
down here eventually.
I'll give you a very short weather break here
from your local meteorologist.
Wow, I can't even talk.
Ben Naim.
Weatherman.
The weatherman.
Here in the DFW area, we're actually expecting
three, two, five inches of snow.
And I'm very excited about it.
There you go. There's your weather update back to you faster. Shelly
that was like the worst weather report I've probably ever heard and
You know, I've heard some pretty bad weather reports out there, but of course I won't quit my day job
You know
You do pretty well on the teleprompter
So I'll have to admit that but you know when the when the teleprompter breaks sometimes it just goes haywire
It's got to be scripted put it on the prompter, and I can read it just like the mainstream media
Outlets it's just like the the corporate media. It's like the Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell once he freezes
He just have you seen those clips? He just he just randomly just like in mid-sense. He's just like so if we
Yeah, that's a brain and then they just have to go and like drag them off the stage and put more drugs into them or something like that
Boy, isn't it interesting how some people age?
While others they age great. I mean, you know of an individual who's very old advanced age and yet
He's totally sharp mentally. He can have a great conversation with you
He's got all of his marbles and then we have somebody like a Mitch McConnell who is a deer in the headlights
at random points and can barely function.
I don't know how to pronounce some of our viewer's names,
but why am I saying, yes, been snowed in
and getting paid for not working.
It's been nice.
Says, I guess we're supposed to get snow
maybe Wednesday, Thursday.
Our snow should be coming in.
Thursday in the early morning hours, continuing through Friday to around noon on Friday.
Musical symbol says, I miss getting one foot of snow up in Wisconsin. It doesn't snow like it used to.
Is that global warming?
Global warming, evidently.
Apparently we don't get enough snow.
Impacting that area.
The someone says there's two mentions of India in the Bible. I don't I don't know what that means
Yakima Valley
Washington says they got a sprinkle of snow
So it looks like a couple people up north have gotten a little bit of India is referenced in Esther chapter 1 and chapter 8
Yep, there you go
all right
well
Instead of just giving bad weather reports,
we're gonna go ahead and bring on our guests
for the evening.
And again, just fair warning, it's gonna be a spicy show.
So if you don't wanna hear some strong opinions,
you should go ahead and click off right now.
But we're gonna be bringing on Dominic, Michael Trippie.
How's it going?
It's going very well, Pastor.
How are you guys doing tonight?
We're doing great.
It's great to have you back on the show
and give us a little update.
What's been going on in your world?
You know man, I've had an interesting few weeks
so
We didn't want to rock the boat too much with the whole election because I knew that I was going to upset a lot of my
allies if I were to give too sharp or open of criticism of Donald Trump
Or just the whole sort of mega crowd not not so much Trump specifically, but just the whole the influencer crowd
This whole like fake sort of media cabal that constantly propels up
Anything that Trump says or does or anything that his you know
What his administration says but basically?
When Christmas, for anyone that doesn't know,
Elon Musk decided to just start going off
on of all days Christmas day about this H1B visa,
this H1B visa situation.
And you know, I hadn't ever really offered too many strong,
I don't really do a ton of opinion on X.
I do mostly like news and sort of like the news
that I report can probably indicate people
the sort of the way that I lean.
but at the same time i don't really offer that much of my pure opinion because
you know it kind of it's sort of controversial sometimes so anyways
Elon Musk started going off about about this immigration thing and it was at that moment of time that I think this whole sort of MAGA war was officially declared.
So now you've got this big tech faction, you know, these Silicon Valley, the donor class, Elon Musk, lobbyists that are essentially trying to co-opt Donald Trump's movement, which is.
Basically based in populism and nationalistic principles, right?
And so I figured, you know what, man, like I'm friends with a lot of these guys, but I'm sick and tired of holding my tongue.
And I started going off about immigration.
Basically saying hey just because you know a driver's license department gave you a card
It doesn't make you American, bro
And just because someone bought off the government and is pushing these now totally
Globalist business practices that doesn't mean just because I think Donald Trump's a cool guy that I'm gonna shut up
So I started going hard and yeah
Apparently man, I don't know made some noise. I got like 10,000 followers in like in like two weeks, which was
You know, and I had never done anything like that. So anyways, yeah, man, it's been crazy. There's more to it
But that's just a little preview for what's been going on. Well, I want to I want to catch up some of our audience
I don't know if everybody is aware, but
Clip 2, I think, has a little bit of information as far as what you've been bringing up.
Elon Musk, is this an actual clip?
Yes, so this is labeled Clip 2, but it's an ex post from Elon Musk
that'll bring everybody up to speed with what exactly is going on.
Why don't you read it for us?
Elon's vehement support
of H1B visas. I was kind of hoping that you would do the honors here, but I'll take it.
I'll read it for you. The reason I'm in America, along with so many critical people who built
SpaceX Tesla and hundreds of other companies that made America strong is because of H1B.
Take a big step back and boop yourself in the face. I will go to war on this issue,
the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend. Now,
Elon Musk is a South African original.
I believe that's where he was born.
He migrated to America at some point.
So I guess he takes this really personally
that he was able to migrate to this country.
But it seems like this attitude is more of like a hijacking
than it is an appreciation
for being able to come into the country.
I don't know.
I'm just kind of curious though,
is there really very much opposition
to the program that brought Elon Musk.
Into the country existing or is it more the expansion and overuse of this particular policy? What are your thoughts here?
Dominique, I mean what I think is that
It's not so much that people you know
We didn't hear anything about this h1b stuff for a while because at the end of the day the numbers just aren't that large
I think the cap for it is something like 65,000 workers a year. It's what's supposed to be at least now. It's abused
And I'm sure that they bring in several other, you know, they bring in lots of other people through other different types of visas, so that's not the number for all immigration, but I think what made people so mad is that.
Almost the entire Trump campaign was based off of the message of nasty portations. He was even saying things like the people are poisoning the blood of our country and some rhetoric that some people found quite distasteful, but the truth is in this is just what people don't want to admit.
That's also like half of Donald Trump supporters. They love it when they say that and and just to give people an idea
85% of Donald Trump voters were non-Hispanic white in 2020
In 2016 it was 88%
We're talking about 8.8 out of 10 people are non-Hispanic whites that vote for Donald Trump.
So if you've ever seen that South Park episode where they're talking about, you took your jobs.
Well, that's honest to God, a lot of MAGA energy, a lot of middle America energy is that.
And it doesn't mean that like...
We hate other immigrants or anything or anything like that.
It just means that when we go to like a Mexican restaurant,
we want Mexican people working there.
Like we have different cultures.
They're just they're distinct.
They're unique.
They're actually what makes the world great.
And even like, and you know, I'm not a particularly.
you know, I'm no theologian or anything, but like even in the Bible, it talks about like one world
currency and one world government. And the truth is, is they're increasingly pushing for it. And
even today, it's like, you see them having these distracting stories about Greenland and Canada.
And it's like, I don't give an F about Canada or Greenland when we have problems here domestically.
And it's insulting that all these cheerleaders
And you just go click on your favorite one whoever your favorite maga influencer is they're all saying the same stuff
They literally move like a zombie army
And it's just the same stuff man. So that's why and I was telling Owen Schroder this earlier
And I was just like look the election is over and like we you know quote-unquote we won
So and the left is basically
Politically eliminated the left is abandoned almost all you're not hearing anything about trans. You're not hearing anything about pride flags
You're not hearing anything about the far left ideologies because they've been thoroughly
Extinguished just because the public doesn't want them. So now I believe that the new quote-unquote proverbial enemy is this corporate capture of
The Trump administration and that that's pushing an incentive in implementing
as many globalist policies across the board as they can. And it's really making me mad,
because no one's saying anything about it. Well, I don't, I wouldn't even say that the Greenland
and Canada thing is, is minor because here's my viewpoint. If you bring in Greenland and Canada,
if you annex them or something like that or make them part of America, that's just like a free
But, but here's the big problem. Canada is like an open border nightmare. I mean, it's
literally just importing everybody. So it's just basically like a backdoor. To me, it's
Canada is like a Trojan horse when you talk about open borders because obviously Mexico,
because of the Biden administration, we were just letting people just flood into the country
in the southern border. But you know, at least from the Canada side, there's not a ton of
people be able to come over successfully.
Canada were to be annexed because there is a large foreign demographic that lives in Canada
specifically. If all of a sudden they can just randomly walk across the border then
it's not so much that if we have good borders it matters because if they just walk into Canada
how do we know they're a citizen how do we not know and then then now can just come straight into
America because apparently we're just opening up all the gates. I mean it seems like to me that
an all-out scale war of just like let's mix as many people into America as possible and let's
just totally just water everything down immensely which again from my perspective is coming from a
position of like people want to decristionize our country. It's a goal to decristionize our nation
and weaken it because a nation that doesn't have ideological continuity is going to ultimately fail
be weak and not have an ability to resist when you're just I mean when you're
just a hodgepodge of people all living in the same area and you don't have any
common interest you don't have any common goals you don't have any common
heritage I mean it really it really becomes a dangerous place like prison
or something I mean like what's the what's the point of even having community
anymore if it's a Hindu neighbor a Muslim neighbor a Jewish neighbor
a Hispanic neighbor. They don't even necessarily speak English. I mean, like, what is even
my neighborhood anymore?
And also, what happens in prison? I mean, what happens in prison is you go to prison,
they break up into racial sex or they break up into different groups. It's just human
nature. It doesn't mean that it's bad. But like the truth is, is the United States of
controversial and things but like when we speak about like Haitian immigrants and stuff and then you look and you this is
Quantifiable data the average IQ of an Haitian person is 65 the average IQ of an American's like I believe it's in between
I don't know 90 and it's like some of somewhere closer to 100 if you're you know an average or two above average person
Like, it's to the point where these people drive without insurance, they get, I actually
just saw that someone crashed an illegal Haitian immigrant.
Crash the semi truck and kill the family in in I don't even remember where was the point is is that like
Just because you may come from a culturally incongru and society doesn't mean that you're bad
It just means that you're not American and we don't particularly want you here considering that yes
You're calling it the degradation of Christian values and the Christian society and that largely is what that is what it is. It's just
Also just degrading all of American values and American culture in every way whether it be religious or otherwise
I mean, it's if people just don't understand how big of a problem it is and they love to always say oh, no
It's illegals. It's it's just the illegals and it's like no all of the immigrants that are in Canada right now
Or they're legally and it's utterly destroyed their country
All of the people that are in Europe right now, almost all of them are either they're
legally or they're granted amnesty, they have citizens rights, and it's like they're complaining
about, you know, these grape gangs or whatever.
And it's so interesting how Elon Musk has passionate views about these rape gangs that
are going on in Europe, but he is fine with importing as many cheap laborers in the United
States as possible.
And what happens when these people end up getting fired?
They end up becoming legal immigrants anyways, which Maga loves to talk about.
So it's just like, we're not being mean, but we're really close to losing things.
I'm not really too sure how much the country can hang on.
And unless we have some people that have enough courage to actually call
us pay to spade and say, hey, we don't want these foreign incongruent people
in our American lands, plundering our goods.
Taking our jobs and ultimately stealing our values and our customs away from us
We don't want it and I shouldn't have to apologize for it
And just because I'm a white guy nobody should think anything other than I'm a patriot
And if you're a native born person living in America
Then I or if you're already here too is the truth is if you're already here and you're already legal
We're not realistically gonna be able to make you leave. So I'm cool with saying all right cool. You're here fine
Now you're going to be a hardcore nationalist and we don't want anybody else here.
I don't care if it's your family, your kid, your cousin, or if they're sick, poor, old, whatever.
Well, and one of our audience members bro. Jay stew says 42% of car crashes and dfw the Dallas 4th area where we live are from
unlicensed
Drivers I want to pull up on my screen a
Bible verse that I was kind of thinking about and get some some opinions here to been
The Bible talks about the four kingdoms in the book of Daniel in chapter number two and the fourth one was that of iron
and then it kind of gives like a later prophecy about that. It says in verse 41,
and whereas thou sawest the feet and toes part of the potter's clay and part of iron,
the kingdom shall be divided, but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, for as much
thou sawest the iron mixed with myri clay. And as the toes of the feet were part of iron and part
of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly broken. And whereas thou sawest iron
mixed with myri clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men, but they shall not cleave
with clay. It says in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom which
shall never be destroyed. I've always kind of viewed this in times prophecy as being
about in times when we talk about the ten toes and we talk about the iron be mixed with
Is it your opinion too that kind of this timeline, it's similar to the timeline of the end times,
could be even the Ten Kings mentioned in the Book of Revelation as the Ten Toes? What were your thoughts here?
Yeah, I do believe that the ten toes of Daniel's, the Nebuchadnezzar statue right there that he dreams about in Daniel chapter two
is in reference to the ten kings that we will see pop up in the end times
specifically the ones that are described in the book of Revelation. And it says that they are going to
be iron mixed with myri clay and the clays kind of mentioned the seat of men
Could that be, and I'm not saying this is for sure, but could that be a reference to
some of these more poor, less educated, less civilized nations being imported
into the 10 most powerful nations in the end times as a way to weaken those nations
and to maybe force a globalist type of an agenda because they're going to bring in the Antichrist?
Do we see a parallel here?
And I did believe prior to tonight's podcast that this prophecy that we're talking about had
something to do with both strong governments and weak governments, all as a part of
this new world order. But the idea of an intentional importing of
foreign like what Dominic put it as those like incongruent cultures that are
coming in that this is referring to that I had never thought of before but I do
think that it can fit the passage and it does make a lot of sense that the
global elites would do that to weaken nation-state sovereignty and force a
global government. Now I'm not necessarily of the opinion to say that
we can't allow some migration and of course people point to the fact that
suggests that the immigration to America was ideologically driven. It was driven by a need
for freedom of religion, specifically that of Protestant and evangelical Christianity,
and that's what founded our nation, and that's what made it strong and great, is that ideological
continuity, whereas right now we are wanting to import massive numbers of people that don't have
Christian values, don't care about the Bible, don't care about the Word of God, and I see that as
Even if, even if someone wasn't necessarily Christian, or didn't even agree with me entirely on having the Baptist bias,
I don't think you could ever see a successful nation that is a hodgepodge of religion,
that is simply just, and it's not even just a hodgepodge, religions that are diametrically opposed one to another.
We see this even in today's modern evangelicalism, where they really lift up Judaism,
But Judaism is not a religion that's congruent with Christianity.
In fact, they hate the Lord Jesus Christ.
And so I believe we would have to have some congruency
when it comes to our ideological beliefs to be a strong nation.
Now, I mean, at the some degree, like, I don't like this.
I don't agree with this.
Just massive import of people from all over the nations.
But I don't know that there's anything we can literally do about it.
Obviously, I'm not going to be quiet necessarily, but I am kind of curious from your perspective, Dominique, like,
you know, I think this weakens nations bringing in all these people.
Elon Musk is acting like, well, I love H1B because look, I'm here, but here's a question.
What is it? Would America even be better without him?
Like, oh, you're so great.
Thanks for coming in and hijacking our nation
and then wanting to bring even more people in
and make it even worse.
And what did you give us?
Oh, you took a bunch of government money
to make a bunch of electric cars
that don't work that great.
Oh, you came in here and got a bunch of government grants
so that you could build space rockets
and we don't know exactly what all he's doing
with the space program and Starlink.
Oh, okay. You are hijacking Twitter and giving us quote free speech for $17 a month that
you're still going to get censored and blocked and not be able to share your opinion on.
I mean, I'm, I'm guessing I'm just kind of curious, like, is Elon, what is Elon Musk
really doing that's actually helping us?
Alright, well, I want to see what our guest has to say. Go ahead. I'm gonna bring up something
That's pretty important that happened with immigration. So yeah, we were built on immigration
But something happened in 1965 called called the heartseller act and that's when they opened up immigration to the Americas to parts of
Asia and essentially they in Africa they opened it up to the third world. So prior to 1965
America almost exclusively had Western European people, which is guess what Christian?
And so then that's where really almost all the advancements in society the biggest things in America like the highway system and all that everything that we know and love truthfully as far as modern day America post nineteen hundred yes immigration did build that but it was immigration of people that were highly selected and for lack of a better term essentially people were discriminated against meaning that unless you had some type of.
You had to have, for modern day terms, you had to have some clout to actually come here.
You actually had to be somebody for America to want you. And even like as late as, you know,
LSI, like I'm Italian, so I'm half Italian. So it's not that I like hate all immigrants or
anything. There's plenty of people that think that I'm like the lowest tier of white person or
whatever they want to think. But the point is that I'm still
A european man that's christian and it's not even whether european not it's having the christian principles so
Because there's plenty of you know, that's plenty plenty of asians here that are
Totally productive human beings. They don't cause any problems. They contribute to the economy. They don't really
Uh try to bother our culture and things they you know, they do their thing
They're not taken over communities though and other cultures tend to do that like
And I don't like talking about this culture very much because they have so much influence on X, but
You know like indian people when they get hired and they take these leadership positions at these jobs
They have a propensity to hire their own. They just do and it's the saint people oftentimes will
Uh, they will complain about jewish people for these same reasons because they have nepotistic practices
They're easily
Observable and so well, it's not nepotistic. It's racist. Let's just be honest. I mean they could
That's just an honest observation. I mean, they're saying we're racist, but if they're hiring more Indians
Aren't they not being racist?
It's not nepotistic, because nepotism is like hiring your family, not necessarily just, you know,
random goop does or whatever. Maybe they're all related, but I'm just saying, like...
They all want to push for colorblind meritocracy. That's what they say, but the reality of it is,
is they just want to push for the ability for their cultures to take over.
And inside, they take over a whole country at once.
It happens shortly, you know, it's like a Dearborn, Michigan, but then,
then it's the city next to Dearborn, and then it's the next area next to it.
Then it's a few counties, and before you know it,
It ends up being an entire state, and it's like, yeah, it doesn't happen in a short period of time,
but I just don't think people understand that this is like a color revolution.
This is literally a globalist plan, just like how if you think people like
international banking and Hollywood and politics are all intertwined and there's a certain agenda
that they push which is sort of seen in the cohesiveness that they act like a good example would
be with their COVID response but it's like if you believe that there really is like a cabal
of powerful people and industries and multinational corporations that run you know the world.
Then it's very very easy to see that they're planning on replacing this population because the biggest threat to globalism is that the american nation and it's.
Patriots that want to resist it and this is really the last the last place for everywhere else has already been neutered.
Well, you know, you had brought up a couple of things here so far on the podcast, one
of them being Donald Trump, the other one being Elon Musk.
And what's frustrating for me, and by the way, I am a Trump voter.
I voted for Trump in the 2024 election, but I am frustrated with the alternative media
just cheerleading for Donald Trump, no matter what he does.
and including his flip-flop on H1B because it was a flip-flop but we could prove it to you
on video. We have old video of him condemning it and then recent video of him endorsing it.
And then additionally
Elon Musk again in the alternative media in some circles criticizing him is like a no-go zone
You're not allowed to do that everything Elon Musk does is golden and he's fighting against the new world order and fighting against the globalists
Etc. And to me this attitude this refusal to hold Trump and
Those in his orbit to hold their feet to the fire is actually a problem
Like, if you're gonna have that attitude before the election, even though it's not my style,
I kinda get it, alright, it's the campaign, whatever.
But the election's over.
We, quote-unquote, won, like you said.
Now it's time to really hold these people accountable, and I just don't see it
from a lot of people.
What's your response to that?
I mean, my response is that, that you just took the temperature of what's going on.
It's exactly correct.
And that's the reason why you're seeing this MAGA war because the truth is, is most people
even view, like most viewers of, of any sort of alternative media or even just like mainstream
podcasts, if you go and look in the comments right now for people that are supporting this
new tech oligarchy that's taken over MAGA, they're getting killed.
Because people know of my association. I don't work for info wars, but they know my association with Alex
John or with with Owen shroyer
And so I made a post about Alex Jones a couple weeks ago saying I think this guy's a shelf himself
I think he's more concerned with selling supplements than he is telling pivotal news stories
I think he's a show for Israel and a show for Elon Musk
And when you base your I just made a post today saying you know when you base your entire reputation off being a gladiator against
globalism
And then you very audaciously and flamboyantly endorse the biggest globalists ever exist in the history of humankind.
And then you act surprised when your fans tell you you're sell out in your stupid show and you're an embarrassment and is this the same guy and
does he have a mask on what happened Alex Jones I'm not trying to be ruthless like the truth in the public or even on my side.
I'm the guy sounds like an absolute idiot but I'm not trying to single him out.
he's mirroring what the, you know, the higher-ups are basically telling all of this phony political
class to do and say, which is why they all text and tweet the same videos at the same time every
day. They look at the Trump War Room account. It says, oh, Greenland and says, oh, Canada.
And they literally just dance and they, and they clap like seals. And I'm telling you guys for people
if you're like a good speaker or you think you're intelligent or you really think you've got your
finger on the pulse of what people want like not to sound cocky I'm not like a hot I'm not freaking
I got a face for radio but the truth is is I don't lie and I actually do tell the truth
and I am connected with a lot of these big names and they look really bad.
So, there is a whole new fertile soil for us to kind of plant our roots for anyone that
wants to be a genuine true teller that's going to prioritize honor in their country above
money and above just being a pathetic, undignified loser.
I mean, I have some tweets I have saved up just saying, do you people not have any dignity
for yourself?
Do you see what you look like?
I mean, like, they want to, it's like false idolatry, guys.
Like they are literally worshiping this guy and they are worshiping Elon Musk and how problematic
is it when the person that's the richest man in the world with the most influence over the entire
government or the United States government and all the Western countries governments he's got
that much power and he controls the largest communications platform and they all just do
I agree with you in every possible way and I'm trying to turn up the heat on these people
because I'm so sick of it and like if they wanted to debate or something, they won't
because they'll get embarrassed even by someone that no one even knows.
Right.
Yeah, I mean, I think when it comes to Elon, he's a necessary component.
for a globalist agenda because without
Corporations globalism doesn't really have much of a leg to stand on they need companies that
stretch across borders as this quote guys of
capitalism or reaching people helping he wants to be this multicultural platform and
because
we all care about speech well then that gives them the reason to basically say well we need
policies that are going to be accommodating to all of these countries and go to the lowest common
denominator of free speech because we don't want to necessarily lose our platform in France or
lose our platform in Germany and so they basically have to create a narrative that is going to get
us all on the lowest common denominator of laws in these European countries even though America
Open ability to just speak and say whatever because we're interacting with people in Germany, France, whatever and
They don't want to necessarily get sued or be threatened by their parliament or whatever government exists
They simply just capitulate to these foreign nations. I mean you see Elon Musk going and talking with
the
Prime Minister, I guess it's typically like the Prime Minister of Italy, right? Isn't it Milani or I don't know how you say her name, but
Some chick. Yeah, we see him we see him meeting with other foreign leaders of France and Germany and
Meeting with people of all, you know in South America. Obviously he has run-ins, but
Sometimes I wonder if those run-ins are basically people that are trying to stay more nationalistic
And they don't like the idea of a Trojan horse globalist
Company coming in and being a tech company that is already in bed with the government has been proven by the Twitter files
And they don't want to necessarily have the government of America just be able to spy on every single one of their citizens and the entire nation.
I mean if Elon has his way, think about it. Elon wants to literally have every single person on the planet on X.
And it's it's all controlled in their data center and the government of course would have access to this back doors into this
So they'd be able to see people. I mean they have face scanning technology. They have voice technology
They know what you're saying. They know your credit card
They could possibly even deal with your banks and just with a flip of a switch
They can just turn anything everything on and off. He's got Starlink. I mean this guy is literally
If you really believe in the end times, like the Bible says, if you believe in a one world
government, if you really believe there's coming a day when someone's going to ask you to get a
mark in your hand or your forehead, I mean, Elon Musk is almost like single-handedly setting up a
system where he can turn off the internet for you. He can turn off money for you. He can turn
off your voice for you. He already has the chip technology that can be planted in your head,
I mean, that would be easy for them to just simply press a button, turn them off and social
credit score.
Social credit.
I mean, yeah.
So I want to bring this up.
Go to my screen if you can and I want to I want to continue to stop for a moment
But social credit score now I saw I think this is chase but sovereign bra
I made a tweet about this just like two days ago. Yeah, he said that there's this thing
I didn't I think I saw you comment on this. That's why I actually saw it
But he says what's my ex score and he said he had 38 of 100 now. I think like
But most people that are somewhat conservative all got like a 38.
The algorithm kind of just like lumped them also like everybody's posting like they're
in the 38 club or something like that.
And I tried to do it myself.
It was really hard because it kept giving me the generic response.
But finally I got it to respond.
And I want to see, I'll go, I posted one myself.
because I had asked it, yeah, here we go.
I asked it what my score was
and it said that I'm a 13 out of 100.
So, which in golf, I think that's pretty good.
But I don't think in this score, it's very good,
which, you know, I've had credit score my whole life
and I've always been very high on that
just because I always paid my bills.
I was good with money and everything like that.
Wasn't a derelict.
But I guess when it comes to social credit,
I'm not very popular Ben. Where do you think you would fall on this 100, zero out of 100, Ben?
Oh, I'd get a high score. I tried to put you in, it just said it wouldn't give me anything,
so I guess it's only like- No one cares.
Super high profile people right now, I don't know how it works, but-
I think you did this as well. Yeah, tell us about your experience with this. I think that I think the score thing
Ended up just being like a muse because I did it. I got a 65 and then a change
I did it a few times and it was a different number like every time. I guess he's a he's a globalist now
I'm just kidding 60. No
Something you just said though about all these things that Elon Musk controls like
I really want people to think about this
let's say Elon Musk ends up being
Awesome guy. He's one of the greatest men to ever live. He does all these amazing things
Let's say he like converts to Christianity and ends up being like someone that you'd you like personally
Think is awesome. Let's say Donald Trump deport every single legal immigrant
He does everything that I want everything the better ones everything the pastor wants. He wants he does it all
the problem remains the same because the precedent is set.
And so whoever is the next person that gets the keys
to the Elon Musk empire,
will you better hope that it's gonna be someone
that is benevolent and legitimate and uncorruptible
because I assure you, think of the people
surrounding this guy that wanna be able to take his power.
Even let's just say so he was a pass away. He's probably got some downloaded version of himself or some crazy thing going on
I just don't think that people understand like hey
We're we're against it when it's George Soros. We're against it when it's Halliburton or the military industrial complex
We're against it when it's Israel and we're also against it when it's Elon Musk
The point is is this is the American government which is supposed to be ran by the American people
Not foreign billionaires not corporations not foreigners
And if you really want to get down to it not non Christians and not women either. Sorry
But like we want to go way back.
I remember one time you were like, I don't want to go back to the 60s.
I want to go back to like the 1700s.
It's like they're their ability to manipulate us with this endless power.
And then this AI on top of the community, communication tool with the government lobbying
and ownership of it.
It's like, it's so, so dangerous.
It's power that I feel like kings and embers dreamed of.
I don't even think the Roman emperor had this kind of power.
We talk about kings, but the amount of power being wielded by Elon Musk and it's ever
growing and ever expanding.
When you talk about his wealth, when you talk about the companies that he owns and what
type of companies he owns and the influence, you're totally right that even if he wasn't
bad, it's going to be set up and someone bad could just come right in.
You know, I've even theorized too, like, you know, the book of Revelation talks about a false prophet
You know, if Elon continues to grow in popularity and allows the X platform to get even bigger reach or have more influence at some point
You know, I've theorized he could be a
Character like the false prophet where everybody's listening to his voice where he puts out a tweet and everybody is
Happing to basically choke it down and it's kind of a it's kind of a scary proposition
I also was thinking like
You know, could his son, this weird like AXI712, whatever thing, whatever, ash or something.
Like, is that like an anti-Christ type figure?
you know, that could be propped up by his own father,
who they're raising to be quote, gender neutral.
I mean, Elon Musk has really bad discretion.
I mean, he was lived with Amber Heard.
He's with this Grimes chick.
Like he has horrible taste in women.
He has no self-control.
He's had all kinds of kids
with all kinds of different random women.
It's all kinds of indiscretions.
He obviously, you know,
just kind of acts like a child a lot of the time.
I'm not against autistic people. I think that autistic people can be very normal. They can some of them can be very smart
But like he we don't say that being autistic is normal
And is it is it good that someone that has like an obvious issue then is also the person in charge of all this stuff?
I mean sometimes people like this are taken advantage of you see isn't it the movie like Rain Man or something?
Dustin Hoffman and Tom Cruise where he's basically taking him into casinos to like, you know rip off the casino
Dustin Hoffman's character is kind of special needs. He's autistic. He's brilliant, but he doesn't really know what he's doing
He's a savant. Yeah, I mean, he's he's able to be used
He's kind of being manipulated in a sense and it's like is that Elon Musk is Elon Musk being manipulated
I've seen some people suggest that Elon Musk is a complete fraud that he's not even actually smart
He's just a pawn and he's just been kind of used as a poster child. I don't I don't really fall for that narrative
I think he probably is smart
We have seen major changes happen to Twitter since he took over so you know
I would give him the benefit of the doubt that he is
Maybe causing a lot of this impact in the company's he's in but at the end of the day like his power seems
A dangerous proposition for America, for the world.
Obviously, when you look at Christian end times,
it seems like this could be leading
into a dark and sinister path.
He dresses up like Baphomet.
I mean, what are your feelings on this, Ben?
Do you think Elon, you know, should be tamed
by our government?
Like, is this an actual threat?
Or, I mean, even though, even if you liked him,
isn't it just not good to give someone
this much power and influence in our world?
Yeah, I mean, it's not just political, but it's also the power and influence with just
one click or whatever the mechanism is from a software perspective to just censor and
to completely neutralize certain voices in the digital public square, which we saw recently.
Look, I was one of the first people to say, hey, it's great to see that X is opening up
and it looks like there's more free speech now and it's not as bad as it was when the
leftists were in control of the platform, but what we've seen happen over the last several
weeks is actually very concerning because we saw folks who call themselves groipers and whatever
you look whatever your opinion
is about them, I think is irrelevant. They deserve to have free speech as well. If you don't like
their ideas, well then why don't you defeat their ideas with your free speech and may the best idea
win? But instead what we've been seeing is they've been censored. We've seen people get their check
mark taken off. We've seen people get demonetized all for fair criticisms of the H-1B visa program
to get an opinion rather from our guest here
on the censorship we've seen on X,
specifically as it relates to this H1B debate.
I think for me that's been very frustrating.
Yeah, actually, I didn't even mention this but I was actually one of the people that got their check mark taken away
I have my check mark taken away for like five and a half days and the reason was because I was basically like ratioing
Significant, you know, it's like Silicon Valley figures basically just saying, you know
You're disrespecting our culture and we're not a sports team
We're a nation and we're a people and no matter what you say
You're not gonna you're not gonna beta just just the simple the same ideologies that I was talking about but no as far as the
Censorship, I mean guys that was
Look, I understand that, you know, some people don't like the groipers, I get it, but the
reality of it is, is yeah, unless they're very expressly breaking some sort of rules,
like explicitly, then they should still have a voice.
And a lot of these guys, you know, the truth is, a lot of these guys are young guys that
are actually pushing for many principles that I agree with.
Um, you know, maybe some of their communication methods, maybe I would go a little differently
because I think it's easier to catch, uh, flies with honey than it is with vinegar.
But, but honestly, though, that's, that's just my style that they should absolutely
be on there.
The reason why they were taken off is because I think they actually learned how to use
the platform so effectively, they're using group chats and things to where, you know,
a couple hundred guys instantaneously see a post at one time. If a hundred guys see a post,
like it and share it at one time, you're going to have big reach, even big reach
disproportionate from your actual account size. So I think they were too effective.
And I think he unilaterally just took there and all their accounts away. And I think for it not
is I think they intentionally wiped them out and here's the most disgusting thing about it
is I was on a space with a couple large accounts about this yesterday.
You know, they purposefully obfuscate the terms and the exact reasons why you get suspended.
So they are able to be very expansive with that power.
And then after the fact, create whatever stupid excuse they may have.
So like they suspended the groipers, they didn't really give a reason for two days.
Then they said, oh, they were hijacking group chats or they were using spam tactics.
Unless you're spamming people with advertisements, like I don't consider that spam, I consider
that playing your game and playing it really well, and they were embarrassing people.
So but but one other thing.
It wasn't just X is not stopping spam. Have you ever clicked reply on any post ever?
X sucks at getting rid of spam. They're not even trying it all. Well forget the groipers. There's also, you know, this conservative O.G.
Affiliate badge, which I had, I went Shroyer had, like even people that are pro Israel, Laura Loomer had, and Laura Loomer was like going as hard as possible about this same
about the same whole thing basically just being pro America over outsiders and like look I have plenty
issues with Laura Loomer she had me blocked actually but when we got on a space together
and had this discussion it's like look if I agree with someone for 90% especially right now
as far as like real world politics in an area we have to live in then I'll go ahead and I'll you
know we can we can battle together but I think it's ridiculous and I think I think Elon Musk is
absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. And I've never seen someone that attains the amount
of power that he has and just says, Oh, that's enough. Like it's like an alcoholic trying
to drink one beer. It's like one is too many and a thousand is never enough. And I truly
think that there's monopolistic, you know, laws and things like that in America for a
reason. I don't think the government should necessarily crack down on them because the
But I just think that really guys, there needs to be some foundational changes in the way this this this country, the legal system, the government even operates, that's conversation for a different day.
But I just think that, you know, this new corporate captured system is not representative of what any of our founders actually drew out this.
This is not really America. We're living in a corporation and an economic zone.
Yeah, it feels like a matrix and you know, even they kind of try to throw us carrots, but I don't even think they're real
I think you had shared a post by
Zuckerberg and
I think we can actually play this clip as well, but he he's claiming that Facebook is gonna kind of
Draw back from some of its previous censorship. We can play a little bit of this clip. Hey everyone
I want to talk about something important today, because it's time to get back to our roots
around free expression on Facebook and Instagram.
I started building social media to give people a voice.
I gave a speech at Georgetown five years ago about the importance of protecting free expression,
and I still believe this today.
But a lot has happened over the last several years.
There's been widespread debate about potential harms from online content.
Governments and legacy media have pushed to censor more and more.
A lot of this is clearly political, but there's also a lot of legitimately bad stuff out there.
Drugs, terrorism, child exploitation, these are things that we take very seriously and
I want to make sure that we handle responsibly.
So we built a lot of complex systems to moderate content.
But the problem with complex systems is they make mistakes.
Even if they accidentally censor just one percent of posts, that's millions of people.
The recent elections also feel like a cultural tipping point towards once again prioritizing speech
So we're gonna get back to our roots and focus on reducing mistakes
Simplifying our policies and restoring free expression on our platforms more specifically. Here's what we're gonna do
First we're gonna get rid of fact-checkers and replace them with community notes similar to X starting in the US
Yeah, we can pause that for a second. Is that the whole clip anyways?
Yes, that's the whole okay. Well, he brings up a couple other points because I watched the whole the whole video on another post or something
But first of all, he says he you know takes terrorists seriously
Well, I can't even have Facebook because I'm labeled as a terrorist. So
I guess I would like to be back. I'm just I'm just skeptical. I don't believe in this
You know, I think that this is just a Facebook is losing and
Facebook has become a boomer site
Because of just how much censorship. I mean if you do a timeline on on Facebook
It's like 90% ads it feels like and maybe 10%
Posts from people that you actually know or care about and as soon as you see a post from somebody
You know and you never see it again, but you'll see the same ad like 50 times
It's just it just seems like a
Waste land. I don't even know. I mean, I don't use Facebook a lot. I'll just be honest, but
I mean the fact checkers? I haven't even seen that any time recently. Have you even seen fact checkers on Facebook recently?
No, I mean I've seen a post get covered with a gray box that says this is not real information
Click here if you want to see it anyway that kind of thing, but I haven't necessarily my post everything
And I've been off Facebook for a long time now. That's just like a total cesspool. I can't stand it. I mean, yeah
I think it's a financial thing for Zuckerberg and I think really it's more of just the same thing that we're seeing we're seeing
The Trump campaign or just the Trump administration co-opted by just all these rich
Technocrat, okay, it's it's like so bad that I don't know I'm really really going to be watching closely
Especially major commentators and punts about what they say and do the next few weeks because there's been a few that have said things
And they're like I'm not really a fan of like Steve Bannon, but he's been cooking man
And he was basically just saying you know
Vivek and and Elon and all of your ilk like you better honor
The citizens of this country like we don't want this and I and so
Yeah, guys, I just think I don't think that they're going to
It's not that it's going to be open censorship now, what they're going to do is they're just
going to really algorithmically boost whatever it is that they want you to see.
And they're going to give you the illusion that it's free speech, but it's just like
with voting.
It's like, yeah, we'll give you the illusion that you have really a choice, but it's going
to be the same guys running the same show.
You're just not going to see the same things.
Yeah, they claim you can still go viral, but my question is are the people that are going viral?
Is that even part of the algorithm anymore?
Or is that actually a button they have to press like it almost seems like everything has been echo chambered
So you can't get out of your echo chamber hardly and the only things that go viral or trending or running this stuff is stuff
That they're pushing probably even pushing through their gatekeepers. You kind of mentioned this earlier
I thought it's interesting about how they
Everybody kind of seems to share the exact same post
about the exact same time.
And it's really eerily similar to Legacy Media.
Legacy Media, Associated Press will break a story,
and then every, whether it's CNBC, Fox News, ABC News,
any of those platforms,
they all share the exact same news story,
the exact same talking points.
In fact, it was so eerie, people made those clips
where it's like,
20 news anchors, and they're just saying the exact same thing at the exact same time, and it's almost like you go on Twitter
I've noticed this a lot, especially even recently. I go on Twitter and I'll see a video and it'll be like I
Don't Alex and then I and then I'll scroll down
It's the exact same video and it's like the hodge twins and then I scroll down. It's the exact same video and it's
just some other conservative social poster.
And I'm not like against those people,
I'm just saying like just kind of like,
they just all have the exact same posts
and they're all just sharing it.
And it's just, I just like,
I don't want to see this video 10 times.
And I kind of wonder like,
how much of this is kind of like a gatekeeping?
Type situation. It's hard to grow. I mean, I've posted every single day on X
Since December 1st every single day and I had like maybe I don't have a lot of followers. I had like a thousand and
Fifty or something like a thousand and fifty followers every day. I lose like seven followers
So just like I lose like seven followers like every day now. I'm down to like
970 and I'm just thinking like
you know I mean maybe if I'm just posting trash or something I don't know but like
it's just kind of weird that I just like only lose followers every single day
that I'm on a platform like this like that this seems unusual
Why you know certain accounts just can't seem to ever grow in fact the only time I've ever grown on X
I'll just be honest is when I get invited to a space and someone asked me to be a speaker
And then I'll like get a bunch of people to follow me
But like just from posting I only ever lose people and and I kind of wonder like
How do these algorithms are how are these algorithms even designing anymore? I've been banned from these platforms so many stinking times and
It feels like people who could have a following are being suppressed heavily and
That they're really only propping up certain voices that are gonna basically put out
the story of the day, and anybody that opposes this or criticizes Elon, they lose their check mark like you did.
I mean, did they email you? Did they say anything to you? Or do you just, all of a sudden you have a check, no check mark.
You're like, what happened?
Yeah, that's all that happened. I just could. Well, I mean, I made like literally one post.
Something that was, I guess you could call it.
immigration restrictionist ideology I had to say and yeah I lost it like the
next day and I was but you know there was more to it though they they took the
gold verification check mark away from the affiliate badge that I was
associated with which caused everyone to lose their check marks so like I don't
want to claim that I got personally targeted but I mean I will say that you
know like Laura Loomer is part of the same organization
Owen Schreuer and a couple other people that were like significantly I take it a little further than Owen does usually but
Other guys that take it as far as me were associated with the same organization. So yeah
I mean, I think there's clear total targeted censorship and I also think that
They reward practices on there that are the exact practices that they tell you not to do
Like they tell you don't copy and paste your tweet and post it and replies and post this your tweet and someone else's replies like ten times
But to be honest man, like one of the reasons that I grew there's really only two ways
you're either in people's replies, using Twitter all day, like you have no life at all, or you've
got a couple big accounts that like will constantly repost you, but like...
If they don't do that, which not very many people have, it's not like the it's the best ideas or anything like that.
They're not being algorithmically boosted.
It's it is it does fit a certain narrative and that is the reason why before the election.
I didn't really say anything that you could misconstrute as anti-trump.
I went over Trump three times.
I don't dislike Trump.
But I'm also like fully against these fake people and like we were just talking about
how they all post the same videos and you know so many of these people totally agree
with many of the things we say they just don't say it because they they get paid and they're
not being paid to say something per se but they're paying they're being paid not to say
certain things.
and that product, they know what that product is,
and they have a team, and they have managers,
and let's be honest, you were targeted.
It's not like there was this random glitch
where 50% of...
checkmark users just randomly lost their badge because some bad code push went out.
No, it's Gropers, it's Dominique Michael Trippie, it's people that are opposing the H1B visa.
They're noticing, hey, these are big accounts that have a lot of followers, they're ratioing.
You are obviously personally targeted. Let's just, let's just, let's just be honest.
Now again, they maybe they didn't only target you.
But I'm just saying, like, it's obviously a personal target.
Someone had to look at your profile, review your profile, and click a check box on you
to remove your check mark.
That did happen.
I'll admit this.
I mean...
Yeah, as far as the whole conservative organization that got the ban, I mean, I was going harder than I mean, I like I'd go pretty hard and I just say clear. I mean, I feel like it's, uh, I just try to say things that people all think and I'm very good at being, you know, respectful and on the line.
Um, like black crime statistics and just a lot of thing about immigrants and yeah, man, I go pretty hard. So it's true. I mean, I likely was
targeted, but I will say this when I did lose my check mark, that just made me sort of post a lot more resistant type of content.
And then like it just sort of grew. But what's weird is that
People like Owen shroyer who like normally has way more reach than me
He's got like 10% of what I've been doing ever since this happened and none of us can know why so like I just do want to bring it up
It's crazy
The amount of censorship that goes on and how we don't know
like just like I don't care about the monetization stuff on X like I don't care about that but
every other site like YouTube they have clear CRM it will show you you know you get this if you
do this for this many hours of viewing time and all that stuff and I just don't understand why
they obfuscate so much of this stuff on X where it could just be clearly written out and people
would follow the rules too if they just would write them out don't say this word I mean you're
He said, we're going to simplify the algorithm. We want to make it transparent. We want people to trust
the application and come on this application and we want to make free speech, free speech again.
And now it's just like all this obfuscation, no one knows what's going on, random censorship,
counts being blocked for who knows why, of course shadow banning and all of the other nonsense.
It's not just me. I think it's everybody in general. I think everybody struggles to grow because we had been, you know, creating an account and we were trying to get him to be able to grow on it, but it's super hard to grow on it. Don't you experience that, Ben?
Yeah, I mean, I guess I just need to be one of these, you know, female...
Quote-unquote conservatives that post thirst trap. I mean that seems to be the easiest way to grow
But if you're just a regular guy who don't use your picture. No, definitely not
Nobody wants to see that but I'm telling you guys the tactics that they make you I have this thing literally posted right here
X how to get the 10k followers because my whole thing was if I can get the 10k
Then maybe some people will like see it and others, you know, because the way it is
There's like this network effect and sort of a social proof toward the right followers that you have
The easier it is to get followers and so, but in the beginning it's like literally it's not even doing anything productive. You're just constantly replying. You're constantly just like.
It's more of like playing some computer game than it is actually giving or dispensing real information and that's what that about it like if you maybe are already like someone that's got that's well known maybe it's cool but if you're trying to get like no one on there like when I started mine it was really hard and people like don't you know they don't respond they don't like respect you or whatever it's just like it's ridiculous even if you have great posts if you're small enough they just steal it.
Yeah, exactly. That's the worst part about it though. Ben you got to just post every second
Yeah, evidently that's not gonna happen. I mean, I could big account replies. And if you want your tweet to get more engagement
Tweet something in it with your tweet. So like if there's some current event that goes on like today
I had that clip of Mark Zuckerberg. I just clipped one down to one minute and then in like three or four replies
I said, here's a shorter clip now. I don't do that now because
If your account gets to a certain size and you do it, you kind of look like a bit of a, you know, an A-hole, but if you're not and you're trying to grow, just be ruthless.
Because you know all these other guys are doing it. That's what the Gropers were doing.
I mean, you were getting some good traffic on your feminism posts.
Yeah, I remember...
I was kind of trolling a little, but there was some woman I told her to go back into the kitchen and make a sandwich and that
Created a big controversy a little bit, you know for my small page
But you know at the end of the day, I think there's some tactics you could use there's still some things you could do to try to grow your
Audience, but you know Pastor Shelley's point. I think was that they're still
some shadow banding going on and there's still some narratives, especially now,
that you're not allowed to espouse on the platform specifically as it relates to
not wanting the native population to be displaced by foreigners, particularly Indians,
coming in and taking jobs away and then hiring only their own through this H1B visa program.
That is highly controversial, criticizing Indian culture.
and the false religion of Hinduism,
and their food and their country,
that kind of thing, is also now apparently controversial.
Your thoughts on that?
I mean, I thought that we were in a new era of free speech,
but I guess not for Indians and Jews, huh?
You will see this is what's crazy and you just hit the nail
I I wish I had a hammer because you literally just hit the nail on the head so hard
I almost like feel like I need to do it
But here's what's crazy like a lot of us and then we're just gonna be frank
All right, a lot of us have talked about you know, we'll call it Jewish supremacy for for quite for quite a bit
Especially since October 7. Let's be real. There was like a revolution online about it
Yeah, you'd run into some censorship. Yeah, you'd run into some problems here and there
But largely unless you're going Lucas gauge level 11 out of 10 and I'm a friend of Lucas gauge by the way
Shout out to Lucas, but they'd keep you on the platform
And the thing is, is, well, you know, we always talk about how Jews have a lot of power
disproportionate to their numbers.
Well, Indians have the numbers and they also work in the tech industry.
And if you go and look right now to the audience, if you go and type in like 2024 Twitter employees
and you look at a picture with Elon Musk hanging out with his boys, dude, they're literally
all Indian.
If you talk, and that's why, hey guys, not gonna lie, I take this for what you
want. I love India, okay? We're good everybody, like no problem with you guys.
I don't post about you guys because I get that you run the show on Twitter.
But the truth is, is yeah, dude, if you say anything about them, you get in hot water
that you've never even imagined, like forget talking about Jews, like you talk about Indians.
This makes so much sense that's what's truly based is this this is why I'm more banned than pastor Anderson
Is because I go hard on Indian food like in my preaching and in all my posts. I just can't stop
Dissing Indian food. This must be why I can't have any YouTube presence
I can't have any presence on I'm a terrorist on Facebook because I go so hard on the Indian food
Ben, you should be like a number one platform.
You love Indian food.
Well, yeah, but they don't, they still don't boost me.
I think I still need to go a little bit harder
and promote how wonderful the Indian culture is in general.
It was our calling.
They're talking about the food they make, like, you know,
on like the ground, like, dude.
Yeah, I'm not hating for real,
but there are some really significant cultural differences
and stuff and like, you know, when people post these videos,
think they might think some certain like I don't know how products will put or like sacred and things but like to an American
That's like really repulsive and so we post that and they get like but these guys get in group chats on telegram
And they like go after the accounts
Like I'm dead serious. You can be like, if you're familiar with like the official 1984 or like Gentile News Network or Lucas or
Sam Parker or Dr. Lupus or any of these accounts to go real hard on Israel and the associated group, like they're on
Twitter still, they get censored. Yeah. But one thing about these guys. So I'm like,
I wasn't it wasn't it like this be like we're good wasn't if you use the word like
Pajit or something they would like totally nuke you or something that's an
word now though you know the n words like frickin given somebody a gift
compared to and if you take off the pop part and just go with that last part
they really like that one but dude it's it's it makes me be like
I don't know. It's weird. And you know what's really weird is India's relationship with Israel is like they are tight
really
I mean, I'm definitely, I know a lot about the Israel game,
but I guess I've just, you know,
ignored India quite a bit.
However, I have worked in tech my whole life.
And so I'm definitely very aware of the major impact
these individuals have,
especially in the coding language, Java,
which I just always stay away from.
Cause it's like, you don't,
you can't even compete if it's Java.
And you, I've noticed a lot of big tech firms,
a lot of these companies, they all go to Java.
Oh, it's one of those companies and it's being completely taken over and the reality is, I mean,
I've worked with Indians in India. I've worked for companies. I was a manager of an India team
working on mobile apps and stuff. I really like the guys that I work with. They were smart.
But one thing was kind of funny to me is every time I would get on a call with them,
they all are wearing the same shirt with the same company logo, but it was not our company.
So it was like, it was so obvious that they were moonlighting while they were on the calls with us and stuff like that, but I mean, I do want to say that too, like, and I mean, it's an all sincerity.
I was kind of joking around, but like, there's plenty of Indian people here that are great.
They're nice.
Like, I don't, it's not that we were not, it's not like, hey, Vivek Ramaswamy, I like hate you, dude, because you're Indian.
It's not that at all.
When you've got cultures, especially ones that have a ton of people, it's dangerous, man.
Like I live in St. Louis, Missouri, and the town where I grew up is called Chesterfield.
It's a town of like maybe, I mean, it's a city.
I mean, it's probably like almost 100,000 people now.
But in the neighborhood that I used to grow up in, or not my exact neighborhood near it,
They took this apartment complex and then like everyone in the entire apartment complex was not then Indian and then it was like the next one over and then it was like the whole community every store every place and it's like again.
If we were to if white guys were to like be there and then we only hired white people at every place
And it was every single person and we like it was very obvious or let's say you were like a
Italian and I only hired Italians and everywhere you went was all Italian. It's like yo like I'm not mad, but
We can't have that in like at some point. Yes, we're going to lose. We really are. I get discouraged because I realize that a lot of people sort of confuse some of the things I say are my views with like coming from a place of hatred or animosity, but it's really just from a place of preservation and for the fact that like, yeah, man, I respect my community and I like how I grew up.
And I want my kids to grow up in the same type of place.
And I wrote this the other day, and I actually,
if you don't mind, I do want to read this real quick.
Go for it.
Take me just a minute.
And this one's a little hardcore, but it says,
your children will grow up in a broken culture
outnumbered by outsiders who hate them
if you do not fight the attempt to globalize America
by billionaires and donors seeking to maximize profits.
So, I worry for the children of this country because I fear that when Christians are outnumbered
and white people are outnumbered, I think that they're going to force you to pay for
what they consider to be an ancestral and historical debt and they will ultimately discriminate
against you and just like you're seeing in South Africa.
They can't kill the border or kill the farmer in stadiums of 200,000 people.
So, I just, I really am worried about it and I hope that people just get what the program
meant.
Yeah, make sure to follow at D. Michael Trippie, he's got his post right here and I mean, here's
the thing.
It's not being racist to just simply not wanna import
every single person from a foreign country
into your country or your home.
I mean, we have to have some reasonableness here.
You can't just bring every single person into a country
and it be successful, bring him into your house.
Someone asked a question, and I think it's a good time to kind of address this, but Matthew Alford 97 asked a question of
Acts 17 verse 26, the bounds of their habitation. He says,
does this teach against multi-racialism and should each ethnicity stay in their own country?
So I figured we could just bring this up. The Bible does say in Acts chapter number 17 verse 26,
talking about God and that made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth and at the
Termin the times before appointed and the bounds of their habitation
Personally when I read this verse because this is what they're bringing up
Personally when I've read this verse
believe that it's talking about the earth itself. I don't think that it's
necessarily talking about a specific nation and you kind of can read as you
you're kind of reading through this. It's talking about the earth itself. It says
and God made the world and all things there and sings the Lord of heaven and
earth. Dwellth not in tipples made with hands and we see that he's talking about
the face of the earth. So we dwell on the earth and I believe the boundaries of our habitation is
just simply the land that God has created on the earth for us to dwell in. It's not necessarily
talking about a specific nation because, you know, if you think about this historically,
boundaries are man-made and they change all the time. I mean, that's why we talk about 1948 is
And so, you know, it would be, it would be weird to say like everybody's bound by some
imaginary lines found on the ground. I mean, look at America itself. America itself has,
over the past several hundred years, grown and expanded greatly. We might even just...
take on Canada and Greenland and stuff. So I think that it's just talking about, in general, mankind dwelling on the earth and that that's kind of where we're at, we're not going to be like Elon and colonizing Mars. Sorry, Elon and Elon supporters not going to happen.
But when it comes to multiculturalism, I do not believe that the Bible has a prohibition
on marrying somebody of a different ethnicity or a different race.
Again, I think those things are man-made anyways.
The Bible talks about how we're made of one blood of all nations.
But I do believe the Bible is very clear in 2nd Corinthians chapter number six that we
shouldn't marry someone that is ideologically different.
Christians shouldn't be marrying Muslims,
Christians shouldn't be marrying Jews,
Christians shouldn't be marrying non-believers.
We're talking you JD Vance.
Yeah, that came to my mind.
I was about to say that.
JD Vance. Hey, JD Vance, listen up, bud.
You're JD.
We should not be mixing in that way.
If JD Vance married someone that was born in India
and looked Indian and has a heritage of Indian,
Indian culture, but she was a Christian and he's a Christian, I would have, I would say there's
nothing wrong with that. At the same time though, I think that we have to be honest that sometimes
when you mix cultures though, it doesn't always work well, it doesn't always blend very well.
And I think that has caused some people marital strife and marital issues that they didn't need
to have. You know, we see situations, even the Bible in the book of Judges, Samson wants to marry
tribe of his lineage and it causes him all kinds of problems. And so, you know,
I think someone needs to go into a decision of marrying somebody from a completely different
culture or country with the attitude that it might be more challenging and making sure they
really want to engage in that situation. Again, I would not say it's wrong. There's nothing
unbiblical about it. But generally speaking, you know, for a nation to be strong,
It's not going to be very successful if everyone's just marrying random people from random different nations like it makes sense to
Try to stay kind of within the boundaries of a nation for the most part
If most people are doing that and look it doesn't really matter what I personally believe because I think they've done statistics on this and studies
and like 90 percent of people marry within their own perceived race anyways, so like
That's just like out of their own preference. They pretty much just typically do this. It's just,
you know, Jewish online advertisers that are trying to push a lot of this multiculturalism and
this mixed race stuff that's, it's constantly being propagated.
It's gonna be like a, you'll see a commercial and it'll be like a family and it'll be like a white
guy, a black, or usually won't, but it'll be a white guy, a black mom, and like an Asian kid.
The kid's not even...
Not even them either. So how did that happen quick? Like, look, you know,
it was a white lady in a black dude. The guy wouldn't be in the commercial. So true, true.
Actually, what was hilarious, the first, I saw there was a PETA commercial during Thanksgiving,
and it was a mixed race couple that was like doing some type of animal cruelty. And it was like,
someone made a joke, like, man, society really is going fast or going
Uh, we're shifting back because this is the first time I've seen a commercial of an interracial couple doing something bad or illegal, like ever, but I, you know, like this isn't coming from, you know, like a, I don't know how else to say it, like a holy perspective, but what I'll say is that like, look, I'm a white guy, I would like my kids to look.
More like me meaning that like if I were to marry a black person or an Asian person or whatever
I don't think there's necessarily a problem with that if someone else doesn't want to do that
I don't want people to do that and I don't want to do that
But I also am someone that I'm very much so about only participating in battles that I feel are winnable
That's not a winnable one as far as working with people's hearts and minds
They're gonna make decisions, especially on love or who they like that and is never gonna change
There's been stories written about that since before christ
So i mean, you know these love stories of this, uh, this prohibited love or this
Lowborn whatever and a princess or whatever racial whatever it might be
So it's just like I get realistically that for the guys that are like, oh we need like
The ethno state and things it's like look, it's it's not gonna happen people that are already here and stuff
They're not gonna leave
so the best thing to do is
Get aligned with all the people that I've shared cultural values particularly Christians which Christians come there's black Christians
There's Hispanic question. There's Asians that they come from everywhere
So let's just like get with our people
America is unique in the sense that it is not an ethno state. It is all these different people but like
Let's cut it off now. Let's kind of start this new like America, someone called it America and American supremacy. I know the people hate that word, but I could it was alex actually a pretty big account and I kind of liked it so because that's a message that people can't like.
accuse you of being racist, they can't really accuse you of being xenophobic either because
you're including other cultures, but I definitely think now is the time, like, it's cool, we're
all on the team, but now let's work together and really start to push back. Whether it's
Donald Trump or Elon Musk or whoever is telling you otherwise, it's time.
Well, and, you know, again, I always try to look at things through the lens of scripture,
but on the topic you're bringing up, I think that what people don't understand about some
of these, you know, demographic situations is...
Like we just look at Mexico
Mexicans didn't exist in the 1600s. It's basically white Spanish guys
coming and conquering native indigenous peoples in that area and the white Spanish conquistadors
literally mating with the indigenous women there and basically creating
Mexicans as we know it today
And then that just basically populated an entire nation of Mexicans that did not exist.
It's not like there was a bunch of Mexicans there in the 1500s.
You know, it's all white Spanish conquistadors going and mating with native indigenous peoples
and then kind of creating a race out of thin air in a sense because of their mix.
And if you leave any nation alone for a while...
They will all end up looking like each other. It doesn't matter if you why is it that China all looks the same?
Why is it that Japanese people all look the same?
Why is it that people in African countries all look the same? It's because if you don't have constant
Immigration just constant flux of immigration
Eventually over time everyone's gonna end up blending and looking the same essentially and so, you know
Even in America that would be the case of it someone would win out at some point. We would be something
but it's just because we've just had this major influx of people. I mean, 1960, 90% of Americans were white.
And it was basically a, it was basically just a hodgepodge of Germans, Dutch, British, like just basically kind of a hodgepodge of like five or six major white nation, European nations that had mostly just intermingled and it was just it kind of created its own little white American nation.
And in the 1960s, everybody's kind of got this just basically German, Scottish, British.
blend and we're all just kind of white. Obviously, there's Italian too. But the Italians are actually a lot darker than you
are. You have a little, you got mixed with some of those white.
Yeah, 50%. Well, I got a bright, bright light on my face. But yeah, that's true. But that's Sicilian. But I'm also
the other half is German and a little bit of Polish right? Yeah. So I mean, we all kind of got lighter like in a sense. And so you kind of just create like a new hybrid in a sense of just the genetics that exist in the code. And with, you know, this major influx of India, Mexico, obviously, you still have the remnants from the slaves that were imported, you know, of course, from Africa. But honestly, like, they've been really
uh colonized because if you really look most black people in America are not very black
in comparison to like what their counterpart fathers from Africa they're they're a lot lighter I mean
and we call almost anything that's not white black these days like uh what is it Mahomes Patrick
Mahomes is black and it's like the guy is like probably white I mean his wife is so white Obama
that Patrick Holmes is only like one or two generations from people not realizing there was
a black person in that heritage at all whatsoever. And I want to say this real quick. I actually
specifically sort of go out of my way to not criticize Latino or Hispanic immigrants in the
uh, like Indian or African immigrants or, or like, you know, Muslim immigrants and things because
like I largely view
Latins and Hispanic people to be culturally congruent societies. I mean, I
they pretty much, and I think that kind of backfired quite honestly on some of the
uh, at least for like the Democrats because I think that they
probably thought they were shooing, but that was one of the main groups that switched the most was
uh, Hispanic and Latino males. So I don't
Like I said, I I get it I I can sort of understand where someone because I run in a few like sort of white nationalist circles and things
I got some allies that really have some strong beliefs about that but but the truth is is
I at this point that is not something you should be arguing about because that's like a fantasy world
It's not ever gonna exist. So I think like being supportive of
Whatever of whatever other groups that are maybe consider like immigrant classes here as long as they are aligned and like if the truth is is
I mean most people that I know that are have Hispanic or Latino descent are just like totally American patriots
So I don't I just leave them alone because if you act like you're
cool american then you're in the club and same also like you know a lot of people
they give and like to say a lot of stuff about black people and like i didn't mean to i i think
that there's a cultural issue especially with crime lack of fathers lack of leadership
lack of a lot of things i think they they'd need some need some serious help but
They've also you know the ones that are descendants of slaves and stuff. They're American, bro
They were here before we even was called America
So like maybe that might they might be at odds with you or they might think I'm like an oppressor even though half of my
People weren't even here, but the point is is that they still are Americans
So like we would be better off trying to again
We want to attract people with honey not vinegar. So like I wish some of my boys would just be like they're here, bro
They're American. Let's
Worry about keeping what we've got well. I don't think we had a big problem with black people until we have the Jewish rap
culture, come in and essentially just like totally change the culture. I mean you can
look historically in the 60s, black families, the husband was in the household and the children
were being raised and it just was like 60 or 70% of children were born to a black mother
and father in the household. Now it's down to like something ridiculous like single digits
or something like that where children are being born with both parents in the household.
that's going to destroy a in any group of people regardless of what their skin color is um and
again skin color is is is silly because it doesn't matter i mean look at argentina it's been mixed
with a bunch of germans i mean a lot of people and and again like
I have no problem with that. I don't care. I could care less what someone's skin color is
I don't care what their heritage or nation is like to me. I have the baddest bias. I don't have the white bias
I'm not this isn't a white supremacist show. This is an ideologically
Driven show where we're trying to draw people to realize that hey religion is what unites a church a group of people
a state a country and gives it power and gives it success and so
we need more people to get the right ideological beliefs and kind of get away from a lot of these
traps. I think the racism that's going on is just a trap and distraction. Don't you feel that?
I just want to say real fast. I saw you got a tweet tweet up from Myron Gaines earlier,
and I want to say I do a lot of co-hosting with him. He's like one of my good friends on X.
Like yeah, it's most of the time, unless it's a very particular argument about
Something very specific. Yes, it's totally silly to even really even even factor in.
skin color because the truth is is like if your idea ideologically align with someone around everything and that's really going to be a reason for
Not being cool with them. We're not being friends. That's very primitive and it's just low IQ and nature
So you can have your preferences
You can think whatever you want but as far as like when we're talking about the most critical issues in our country and fighting for the advancement of a
future and you know fighting for Christian values
And just everything else we care about you need to put your stupid personal
Proclivities aside and you need to just be allies with people that you're aligned with so like I mean and I run seems pretty smart, too
I know a people act like oh
You can't be dark-skinned and smart, but he seems very smart, very well articulated.
He's not necessarily a thug or something like that.
I didn't realize this, but he actually had a 10-year background with law enforcement.
He worked as border patrol, so a lot of the conversations we've had about immigration
and everything else, and he gets it too.
He's born in America, and he's Sudanese-American, but do you think Myron wants a bunch of people
from Sudan moving to Miami?
You know, he seems he seems to have had a lot of growth in the last few years, you know
It'd be interesting. It'd be interesting. I would love to have a conversation with him, especially, you know, of course
Religiously, I would love that but just just a conversation with him would probably be
Beneficial because he definitely seems to be on a path of truth and you know people that are a path of truth are my friends
I like people that like the truth even if they aren't, you know, necessarily ideologically, you know an agreement with me right now
you know, I think that someone that wants to know the truth is someone that I want to hang out with.
Would you ever be willing to do, like, because he has a lot of, like, uh, theological debates and
things where he has someone come in and argue sometimes, sometimes he would even have, like,
a Christian versus Muslim debate. He wouldn't be the person debating you. He'd probably bring in,
like, some super hardcore Muslim guy. Yeah, I would do, I would do it for sure.
Developing a pretty close friendships, and he often is looking for content that is like that
So I will put you in touch for sure dude. He's a great guy for real
I don't really go to bat for that many people publicly
But like as far as people with big accounts that are actually pushing against important things. Yeah, he's bombastic
Yeah, he's gonna say some inflammatory stuff, but he's a really good guy, especially like behind the camera
He's an awesome dude. So yeah, and any of like my my
white nationalist boys that have bad stuff to say about Myron.
I'll be the first person to tell you to screw off for sure.
Right. No, I would totally do the debate.
We do. We actually do them occasionally.
I have a couple other big ones that are coming up here.
We'll probably do them on our channel, but yeah, I think that.
Think that that's great and it's great exposure and I've seen I've seen he's done a couple against Muslims
But I think you have like a Catholic
And in a couple other like different versions of you know, I guess if you want to use the umbrella Christianity
But typically nothing coming from my sphere of the world
And so I think it would be great as an opportunity to kind of combat those kind of people but
You know Ben's from the Islamic world, right? Isn't that where you that's right jockey just straight Lebanese? That's it
Very easy to trace. So I mean obviously you can't say that I'm a white nationalist when I got been on my show
Yeah, you got your country, man. Well did Israel just like take them out of what?
Yeah, I don't it's it's bad. I I will say this
I am not a fan of Israel whatsoever and neither is pretty much anybody that I know in my family, so
We're not we're not the Zionist by any stretch of the imagination, but you know
Pastor you bring up. Hey, I don't have an issue with people who are non-white
My skin color is pretty white, but I am Arab.
The thing is though, we have a lot of friends,
and especially they go to our church who are of different ethnicities and skin colors,
but we're so united because of the fact that we share the common ground of biblical Christianity.
And in my mind, I've met black people through the years going to our church,
going to churches like ours, visiting churches like ours,
I just, like, forget that they're even black or something. It doesn't even matter to me.
Because they're good family men, they love the Lord, they have conservative Christian values that align with my own.
We both have the same morality and the same views. So, you know, in my mind, it's easy to unite with people like that.
I would echo the sentiment that I don't really care.
at all about superficial characteristics
or what somebody looks like.
Now, I do think though, that when it comes to marriage,
people tend to want to marry somebody
who's of the same race because they're concerned
about their children.
I mean, you brought this up.
Their children,
Looking like them they have those kind of concerns a lot of the time men are more
Attracted to women who are of the same race and that's fine. People can have their preferences. There's no issue there
but in my mind
What truly is the biggest deal to me is the ideological unity and when we don't unify around the word of God
But rather we're importing everything Islam
Judaism Hinduism all this false Satanic crap
That's when you start to see the division that we have in this country. Yeah, and we're going to
the Bahamas multiple times this year on cruise missions trips on a church-wide soul-inning trip and you go to Bahamas
It's all black people and we love it. We love the people there
You know, I could care less about someone's skin color
You know and why we love going to Bahamas not only is that great beach, but it's just the receptivity
They like Christianity. They want to get saved. They like talking about the Bible. They're truth seekers and that's what I'm saying
I want to be around people that want to know the truth and you know if Indian people wanted to know the truth
then I would have to try and figure out a way to like Indian food, which I don't know if I can but
What what I've noticed and you know, we it's not like Dallas Fort Worth doesn't have Indian people
Go to Irving with me and you'll find apartment complex after neighborhood after neighborhood that's filled with Indian people
But their Hinduism
Ruins and poisons their mind and many of these people are just not interested in the truth
They don't want to hear what the Bible has to say. They're kind of just nice, but it seems a little bit fake and
You know, I just I don't want I don't want those type of people in my country. I don't want false religion
I don't want fake people. I don't people to patronize me, you know
Republicans used to be like we don't want no Islam. We don't want them them terrorists them a-rabs and whatever, but it's like
What's the difference between these Muslims and these Indians and they'll say like oh well the Muslims are terrorists and stuff
But like Hindus like the the devout ones are very
Antichristianity I mean they'll cut your head off if you're in their nation. So I really don't see them being much different
And I would rather, you know, be around people that are saved or Christian, regardless of their skin color,
and as opposed to being someone that's a little bit lighter skin and a Hindu or one of these other false religions.
Or some liptard.
Yeah. I mean, do you really see a huge difference here, Dominique, between importing Indians
versus Muslims or people that are Islamic? I mean, why do we have so much hate for one
and not the other?
No. That's the thing. Is they, uh, well...
Look, sometimes I don't like when people relate the whole Jewish institutionalized power structure in comparison to immigration.
But I can tell you, as far as a figure like Tommy Robinson, who people known to be a nationalist in England,
he openly advocates for the immigration of Sikhs and Indians because he says that they more easily assimilate to society.
It is true that like maybe they'll take over your entire community, but they're not necessarily going to like
Come to your house with the sword with all their henchmen. They sort of paint this illusion like
Muslim people absolutely refuse to assimilate and they're forcefully taking over by numbers and they're trying to implement Sharia law and
Really anti-christian, you know actual like real laws being practiced. So I think that
You could put that in there as far as why because it's like oh this group of people always pushes for immigration in every other country
But they're the most ultra-nationalistic for their own
But ultimately I think it's just cheap labor man. I think it's cheap labor. I think it's easily controllable people
I think that there are people that are
Subservient by nature and you could maybe say I'm not trying to make total generalizations
But you know like I don't know if you just like talk
down to some super strong Muslim guy, I think you might have a little bit more of a of a fight on
your hands then. Yeah. So I think that yeah, they're just very cheap labor. They're more easily
controllable. And I think it's just about dollars and cents, really. That's a great point. And I
think also we're bringing in a slave class through through Mexico, because they're also a subservient
group of people. And, you know, of course, there's all this rhetoric. I mean,
I've heard tons of people getting so mad
about the border issue and all these people coming across
like Hispanics and the illegals and all these problems.
And you know, people like Alex Jones,
people that were just beating this hammer,
sending people on the border,
getting all kinds of news reports.
I feel like I don't hear anything about that anymore.
And I feel like even with this H1B,
it's like Visa, which is,
Probably not even as big a deal as the the border issue that we've had of Mexico, but still kind of the same vein
Not getting a lot of attention
Um, we've seen people pushing back against this.
You, you were pretty openly against this.
And again, I don't want to cause problems here, but I was considering
what Alex Jones.
I have no problem talking about it because the truth is, you know, Jake Shields is.
Yes.
Okay.
Well, they're having an open fight right now.
Like they're duking it out on Twitter.
I'm actually supposed to probably be on Jake's podcast next week.
And we're going to talk exclusively about gatekeepers and Republican
you know, I don't work for Alex Jones. Like I said, I, I
gratefully, I respect that he's a mentor to my best friend.
And I'm not going to say anything that's so distasteful that I would maybe sacrifice my friendship, but I'll just say this as far as what he's been talking about.
I mean, I said this a little earlier, but it's like you have been painting a picture of you being the main gladiator against globalism for 25 years, you maybe are one of the most popular nationalist and populistic voices in the entire broadcasting.
um industry and for you to carry this torch so defiantly and so loudly to where people constantly
make memes about globalism and you are defending elan musk when your own employee and a man that
You're complimenting Elon Musk in the middle of Owen's checkmark being taken, you're complimenting
Elon Musk when all the groipers and all these huge accounts got completely wiped out and
you'll have the audacity to say something along the lines of, oh, Elon asked us to post
a positive content.
So here's a picture of a beautiful sunset.
you're causing reputational damage to yourself. You look like an embarrassment. This is one of
the largest coordinated censorship efforts since X has been purchased by Elon, and you have the
audacity or the blindness to post this. And I can just honestly say, and I mean this,
I appreciate what you've done and I'm sorry that, you know, the law has come after you.
But if this is the state of your commentary, we are going to embarrass you and make you
feel like the stupid coward that you sound like.
Because guess what?
The American people deserve the truth whether you're broke or not.
And you're also even embarrassing my friend's reputation because some of the stuff you're
saying.
Honestly, brother, I don't think you could even hold a candle to me and I've literally not even been doing media for more than six months
I'm grateful for you, and I'm grateful for how you talked about the vaccine and things of that nature
But clearly you're either compromised or the news has passed you by or some stupid interns doing your tweets
Because you're embarrassing yourself. Was that strong? Was that strong enough guys? Well, tell me how you really feel
I mean, I mean here's the thing
I I've always liked Alex for for what I thought he was I guess I've never really personally thought
That he was very hardcore. I thought that he always kind of acts like he's this champion of free speech and
Always saying the the most hardcore radical things, but I guess I never really bought that narrative
So so maybe it's not as offensive to me
when he's not uh he's kind of doing the same thing again here just because like even even the
the sandy hook thing he took a lot of things back on that and I I don't know if I really
agreed with how he handled some of that situation um he used to go really hard on a certain group
of people especially around 9-11 and now it's just globalists and it was kind of like this funny
W s and it's like solve the puzzle and he's like globalists and and the thing is is like
I saw him finally like he retweeted that and then he put jaws his jaws the answer and and I'm like
It's not that he doesn't noticing this stuff. He obviously is noticing it
But it does seem disingenuous to just only ever say globalist like who is that though?
Like and what are you gonna accomplish if you only ever say quote globalists?
But then we're not actually pointing out who they are
and what their agenda is and why they're connected
and what they're, you know, what these companies are.
And, you know, so it doesn't seem like
he necessarily wants to push things too hard.
And I feel like it's been pretty consistent.
But I mean, when you've got people on your team
like Owen who went to, who literally went to jail
I don't know I can remember like I'm just saying like when that happened
I don't remember Alex really even talking about it that much. It seemed like he I'm not saying he didn't
I know he did a little bit
But I'm just like if my co-host like one of my main like my number two a guy that brings a whole new audience to my show
Went to prison under this garbage frisbee things like I would be talking about it like constantly and like trying to like
Really support it like I don't know. I just it didn't feel like he went
Man as much as support at that time. I I actually started what Owen's current Twitter account is me personally when he went to jail
Because I was like bro. No one's advocating for you. No one even knows how to use Twitter
right wasn't on Twitter at the time and
So I'll give him a break as far as that goes and it is true. I just went pretty hard on him
I do understand all the arrows. He's taken over the years. It's not that it doesn't mean anything
But like I'm just gonna be real guys ever since
Um, the the expansion of independent media ever since platforms like rumble or or all these other things are out there
BitShoot Odyssey X even it's like
Now that this is a new
Instrument for us to release material. I mean what is info wars other than just like a channel that could be on rumble
And I'm and I I get it's a cool studio
I get there's a lot to it and it's not that I'm trying to be disrespectful, but it's just like
For him to continue to say things like I am the tip of the spear and if they're coming after me they're coming after it's like brother you are not pushing the boundaries in any way shape or form and like I really the reason that I would just went off and that I have had some not very nice things to stay on Twitter about him is because like I just think it's honestly insulting to say.
just these pro Elon statements
when clearly very much of your audience is,
I mean, if there was one group of people
that you'd be like, yeah,
I wonder who's for the mass deportations
and instituting an immigration moratorium,
would it be Fox News or would it be Info Wars?
It's like, dude, I don't care if the guy's paying you,
I don't care if the guy's buying Info Wars,
like for you just to align with this new
Brand new for only five months have they been involved in mega and Alex Jones is kissing this guy's ass like it's his best friend
I just can't do it man. I think and if you look at the comments guys and almost like this post
That you have on up, uh, right here where it looks like he has a nice spray tan
He
Literally the the comments under it are like put it on the screen
And so this isn't like a personal vendetta. It's more of a philosophical disagreement. And for issues that I am very, very passionate about, it's like we need our loudest voices to be on the microphone.
Well, if everybody puts pressure on him, in all fairness, here's the thing. Obviously, what you're saying is pretty harsh criticism, but I think you're coming from a sincere place. And here's the thing, if people are giving him harsh criticism where he needs it,
Then the goal the goal is they want them to they want them to change right they want them to just hey
Start talking about this stuff or stop or stop labeling yourself as the tip of the spear and just admit like
Hey, I'm just kind of gonna play the game now or whatever. He's doing. I don't I don't know
But obviously Elon putting him on X maybe that caused him to soften up a little bit
I don't know. Let's let's play this clip a little bit and we'll can't we'll kind of get your thoughts, too
On this bin. What is what is the what does Alex got to say?
And he's exposed to Jeffrey Epstein and the CIA.
Hell, last week he put out tweets about the CIA
at War with America.
God almighty.
Jones sold out retweeting that.
God, I apologized all of you.
I'm sorry.
I sold out.
I tried to stop the pedamon.
Rigs of giant Muslim kidnapping rigs.
I'm sorry.
I kissed you on my ass.
Woo-hoo-hoo.
We're so close to getting the globalist. I want their throats
And now you can say it and you guys think you're gonna harass Elon Musk and push him off of supporting Trump and divide Trump and Elon
You're not
We have already beaten your ass
Wait a minute
I've seen a lot of spicy tweets. I don't think I've seen a single tweet that said Elon should stop supporting Trump
I don't think I've ever seen anybody say that
I guess we we've already gotten like we're about to get the globalist
Who are they?
Like I don't even know one person. It's who's the one globalist. We're about to get
He is literally supporting the largest globalist who ever exists and then he is doing these performative
fake
Videos and acting like he's being sincere like we're going to beat the globalist by doing what Alex by teaming up with the globalist themselves
Like this is why people call him controlled opposition. I've never called him that but this type of behavior
Guys, if you really think this was genuine, like, did you see
how disingenuous and overly performative and basically
uncomfortable the guy looks? The reason he looks uncomfortable is
because 75% of his fans are going, What is wrong with you? We
are so adamantly opposed with what you are saying. We supported
you arduously for so long. And the only thing you didn't like
and now the globalists are knocking on the door about to break it down to the movement
that you're a major political figure in, and you are literally letting them in to come and steal
our country. And someone that has your type of a voice and profile, you have a responsibility
to the American people to actually tell the truth. And if you're not going to do that and
Surprise when people act like they don't like you anymore. I mean, and I like him. He is a good man
I think he's a good dude if it wasn't for Alex Jones
Many people wouldn't be in media whatsoever at all
He literally opened the door for everybody
But things change and unless he changes and starts speaking out against against some of these forces
That we believe have been appropriately and deceptively co-opted maga
Then he's going to lose favor and he's gonna lose it fast. Well, I
And you know use this term controlled opposition now my staff and and other people could could testify to this
But I have used that term about him and about info wars for for a long time, but
You know, I want to be careful because I'm not saying that like there's this secret meeting and he got the call
And there's these people telling him what to do
I think I think you know control opposition can look like a lot of different things
And I think in some ways it's just having the right people to put pressure on you to do certain actions
Or to play ball or to just kind of go along with a certain narrative
that that can be controlled opposition as well and I guess I personally always kind of been that way
so like for me this kind of stuff doesn't really surprise me maybe that's why I'm not as mad
that's why I'm not like I've always kind of just seen it as hey he's never gonna necessarily go to
to our core because he has a huge audience.
I mean, he had like millions of people watching a show.
They're buying his supplements.
They're buying all these products.
Like if he starts getting real specific on a lot of these issues,
he could alienate his audience.
He can push a lot of people off.
And, you know, so yeah, but I'm just saying it's always been that way.
Well, to a degree, sure, but what really happened and what really exacerbated some of these accusations is he never had mainstream adoption until like about a year and a half ago, like he wasn't really on Tucker Carlson, he wasn't on the center stage of TPUSA.
You know, Donald Trump came on a show in 2015, but that was like one of the last hints of real mainstream that he had.
pushing the furthest conspiracy theories you've ever heard.
And so it is funny that like when he said the frogs are gay, it's
ended up being true.
It's not that he's bad, but it's just that it's way different.
And he's insisting it's not.
And I think that's where there's a degree of inauthenticity that
that's being presented.
And guys like, you can got it, you can have a lot of problems in
life, you could be
Tell people all your flaws, have all different types of issues, but if you're just authentically
who you are and you're genuine, people seem to get a read on it and they appreciate it
because you seem like an everyday person.
Alex now looks like someone that is literally an actor.
And I think that his relationships with Tucker Carlson, with the mainstream people in conservative
media and now eventually Elon Musk, I think he feels the need to self-censor and I don't
think he'll ever be the same.
I really don't. Ben, you are a long time Alex Jones fan. You've listened to a lot of his program.
You've seen him through the years. I kind of agree with what you're saying here,
but I want to get a perspective from you because you actually have kind of witnessed this stuff.
Have you seen an evolution here? Do you think Alex is kind of being pretty consistent with
what he's been like? What is your thoughts here? I think he's moderated himself lately.
to be honest with you. I wonder though, and this is why I'm hesitant with him, because
I wonder if there's something here that has to do with this giant amount of money that he owes to
the Sandy Hook people, the lawsuit that he went through lately. Maybe he feels beholden to an
Elon Musk as a result of that, or beholden to certain groups that he feels like are keeping
I've seen that sentiment online.
I sympathize with that.
I almost wonder if there's something going on there
where he kind of feels like he has to take this position.
He has to agree with Elon.
He has to hitch his wagons to the Musk train
and the X platform as a whole
for him to have some kind of voice
or to keep info wars going.
Maybe he's relying on Elon monetarily.
I don't know all the details,
Dominic on this like have you seen people maybe push back a little bit and tell you well hold on a minute here
Let's go easy on Alex because of the lawsuit. Maybe he needs Elon to stay afloat
100% I've gotten tons of tax messages. I've got tons of messages on Twitter asking me to chill
But the truth is that none of these messages are none of these messages even insinuate slightly that it's an ideal that I'm
ideologically wrong
They all are acknowledging that what I'm saying is correct, they're merely asking me for mercy because they know that I go hard and I'm not gonna sit there and lie or, you know, do this celebrity or deal, because I've actually never met Alex Jones.
So I know everybody else there, but I've never actually met him.
So I want to say this for sure, and I know that there's only a little time, but I sympathize with them greatly.
It's not his fault necessarily.
Why he's in the position that he's in as far as
Feeling the need to change the sum of his messaging and I and I do feel genuinely bad for him, but
I also think that, you know, dude, if you're going to change this much, then people are
going to notice.
And I think it's a little naive to expect people to be as forgiving.
But no, there has been plenty of people that have told me, hey, just chill out.
And I definitely do respect what he's done.
But as far as the ideological differences, I just think what I'm saying is genuinely
and only the cheerleader guys that want to post the same videos at the same time.
They're really the only ones that are the loudest supporters of them right now because
I think it's just kind of part of their their own little gang where I worry once truly a man
that was going against the grain always, and genuinely a voice for the people, and especially
for a lot of the forgotten people of America. And now I feel that due to all these pressures,
due to the lawsuit, due to the new relationships, that's just not the case. And I hope...
The nothing but the best form he's been through a lot and he is a good guy personally
So I apologize for some of the vitriol if it sounded like that
But I just care about the about the ideals guys. I really do I think your criticisms are fair
Even though I'm per I've personally been hesitant to go after him in the same way not that it would matter anyway
No one really cares, but my point is I
Really do believe though that your criticisms are fair and you could add me on the list of people who would say
I don't have much to say in opposition to what you're pointing out here as it relates
to Alex Jones and I'm worried about him in this respect and this is what I wanted to
bring up here.
I think that there is a groundswell right now of support for anti-Israel rhetoric if
you want to call it that or people who are honest.
about Israeli influence on American foreign policy and our government in general and the Jews
and things of that nature. There is a groundswell of support for that and that's why you're seeing
it explosion in popularity for guys like Nick Fuentes. That's why you're seeing
Mayan gains gaining traction as well. You've been gaining traction as well. People who are
willing to discuss this issue and I think that the media landscape is going to quickly pass
looked at as a has been, if he doesn't pivot. And that's what I'm worried about. And that's
what I don't want to see. Well, I legacy media obviously did this to themselves. And it's,
it's going to happen to anybody who kind of stops being cutting edge, except for how legacy media
you turn into channel four, channel six, channel eight,
that's all you got.
And sometimes you kind of have to wonder like,
are X and Rumble, I mean, here's the thing,
if X and Rumble just became YouTube
and just totally censored like hardcore,
like they have on these other platforms,
it wouldn't matter that Alex
would potentially become even less of a version of himself.
That's the only opportunity you have to listen.
And it's been,
It's been nice that X has allowed other people to grow and have a voice.
It's nice that Rumble has allowed other people to have some platform and grow a little bit.
But you kind of have to wonder, like, you know, how much of the gatekeeping is going to exist in 2025?
And I don't know.
I mean, I think I'm in a different category than most people.
But I do think like even within the censorship crowd, but I am kind of curious like what what is the strategy here?
Do you feel like you can go as hard as you want Dominique on
X and on Rumble and on some of these platforms or do you feel like you have to be a little bit strategic?
I mean, I'm I'm kind of curious. I mean does Alex have to capitulate a little bit here or
You know, is there should we just really force people to give us free speech?
So two things I think
Ben just said something about Alex potentially being at risk of being a has been and I wanted to say that I brought at the point earlier about this
proliferation of all these new
Tech video outlets like rumble and in YouTube and whatever else and it just simply makes it to where there's much more competition
There's much more people that are willing to to not necessarily be incendiary or be like flat racist or whatever
Or whatever you want to call them
But they're willing to touch on some of these more controversial, yet very critically important issues.
And I think that that sort of puts the spotlight on guys like Alex Jones when there are people that are rising very quickly.
There are people that are gaining credibility and clout within the industry, both even on even in Capitol Hill.
I mean, there's plenty of people that even have a similar mindset that I have that literally are legislators in the government.
So they just don't talk about it.
So, I think that that's the main reason why he's being, you know, sort of not cast aside
but why people might be sort of saying, you know, they're not too happy with some of his
content.
But as far as the censorship or his...
His or my views on how I need to curtail certain language or whatever I am very strategic with the with some of the things I like to say.
I really try to offer talking more about like need more like using words like native born or more like using American not even if it's something where maybe I'm even specifically speaking about like something that has white.
undertones or something like I made a post the other day talking about how the tech industry discriminates exclusively against white males
and the statistics are staggering but
even if you just use the word white instead of using just American people or whatever else you want to use which is
Not really what I was getting at with that particular post, but I think it's very important to use
Use an angle that's coming from like almost an educational or an academic or
Something that makes you seem like you're of high intellect and that you're not just some
stupid
quote unquote racist guy that's pushing xenophobic ideology. I think that I try to do a lot of
spaces and I try to do, you know, some stuff on camera because I personally, I think I'm a pretty
friendly guy that has a warm personality. And if you're able to couple that with some views that
maybe some people find unsavory, it can be very disarming. And they have a little bit more of
uh, walk the line, but not cross the line and get my points across, uh, using a style
that makes me sound educated, but not hateful.
As far as Alex Jones is concerned, he, what would he be censored for?
I mean, he's, Elon Musk is posting about Muslim rape gangs and now, and now Alex Jones, five
minutes later, makes a post about Muslim rape gangs.
he is not doing anything other than what the dog and pony show of like Sean Hannity level
conservative but I'm being I am not trying to be mean but like truly what is the difference
between like watching an Alex Jones and watching a Sean Hannity these days they push the same stuff
Sean Hannity is going to warn you about a conflict with Iran and the Muslim raid gangs and they're
So I just, he doesn't need to worry about censorship because he's censoring himself anyways.
Well, I do have to give you some props on the spaces.
You definitely seem to be killing it on spaces
and a lot of people really enjoy you
either setting them up or being a part of them
and appreciate you adding me to some of the spaces
in the past and it's a great vehicle
to be able to have conversations with people
that you don't necessarily already agree with
and try to challenge people on their viewpoints.
Um, I think, you know, anything and everything that we can do is, is just, is good right now.
And, you know, for me, it's, it's definitely hard to reach people with some of the restrictions
and banning and things that have happened, but I don't want to give up and I want to keep going.
And I've even tried like what's crazy is I've tried to be like the most
Self-censored person ever even like YouTube and some of the other platforms and didn't even work so I couldn't even do that kind of stuff
But you know, it's definitely you know for me. It's my life's work
You know, I want to reach people with the gospel and I want to get people saved and I also care about our country
I even though the the gospel is the most important thing for me and people being saved as the most important
I still don't just have this like animosity towards America.
I want America to be successful.
I want and I love all people.
I love black people.
I love Indian people.
But, you know, I also love white people and I don't want to just see them unfairly attacked
and taken advantage of.
And, you know, we always talk about the things that have how we've mistreated black people
and mistreated all these other minorities.
But I don't see mistreating white people as the remedy to that.
And I think we've seen a lot of policies, I think we've seen a lot of companies and organizations
and ads and campaigns designed to just hurt white people that are not smart enough to realize
that they're being targeted, not to realize they're being taken advantage of. And so I think that,
you know, we should care about everyone, red, yellow, black, and white. They're all precious in
And of course, you know, if I call out white injustice, they say,
let's cause you're white.
But it, you know, it doesn't really matter, you know, that I'm white, it should just matter if it's true.
And, you know, that's what you have to judge these, you know, this is the way we have to judge offensive content.
Is it true? You know, it doesn't, it doesn't matter if it offends you or not.
You should have to ask this question, but is it true?
And you see a lot of anti-Semitism labels, you see a lot of racist labels, you see a lot of misogynistic and homophobic and all these different labels, but then it's like, but did they lie?
But did they say something that's not true and you know
I think it's really really important that we seek the truth on these issues and these situations
And we find other people that care about the truth ultimately. That's why I love having guests like you on
Obviously, you know, you're coming from a little bit different background, but you're such a great guest really really knowledgeable
Um, I really like that you stuck up for me and I really, I love being on with you guys.
I really had a, and really enjoy myself truly.
I love the loyalty you had for your friend, Owen.
Um, I thought that was really commendable and, and trying to stick up for him.
And, you know, Owen's been on our show a few different times and we really appreciate him
and the contributions he's made and, and really just even standing up for, uh, freedom of speech.
And, you know, I see it, Owen is a really genuine person.
um, he seems like a really genuine true seeker and that's what I really like about him.
And I'm, I'm grateful that people like Alex exist so that they can give other people platform and
stuff. It would be nice to see Alex kind of return to form and just become an ultimate true seeker
again and not necessarily care about popularity, fame, money or, or any of those other things. And
I'm sure they're throwing a lot of more of those things if he's just authentic. So all those good
And I do want to take a time just to apologize again, because he is a good guy and it's not coming from a hateful place.
I just am someone that really is a hardcore populist and I don't want private money in our government.
I don't want rich billionaires having their hands all over our leadership positions.
And I just thought that he should stand up for it. That's really all it's about.
Well, I'm not easily offended, so I don't even know that I can be really, but I know
that other people get offended by everything, and so it's really difficult for me.
But you know, I love having Ben on our show.
Thanks for the contributions you make, and you know, what I like about Ben is he's a
true seeker.
It's definitely not his food preferences, because he has terrible taste in food.
I'm sure you like it stuff. He just given you hard time. It's objective. No, I have can I have a
Departing word before we call. Oh, yeah, we're not yeah, I just I just wanted we're not done and all good
Go for it. Okay, so
And this is especially to some of the guys on spaces and it's not this isn't to be like disparaging or anything like that
But I just wanted to sort of give people a little bit no warning, but just a message or a word of advice
If you, let's say that like you listen to some space or maybe you listen to the podcast tonight and you liked some of the stuff that we had to say, or particularly maybe you like some of the stuff I had to say, or you like some of the tweets that are talking about our children and, you know, outsiders and all these different things.
If you want to start talking about this type of stuff.
And I mean this in the nicest way, please don't do it unless you are both very educated
on these matters and you have good enough speaking ability and to communicate these in
a digestible and an effective and a generally pleasant way.
Um, the smartest guy in the entire world, or you could be the smoothest talker in the entire world, but if you don't have a combination of at least an elementary level, some of these topics and the, you know, comfortability and the just overall effectiveness of public speaking.
please don't do it because I promise you it just discredits people. It discredits a lot of our
beliefs. It makes us look stupid and it makes people ultimately be like, oh, we're casting aside
these guys as extremists or whatever. And the last thing is too is they want you to act overtly
racist and totally vitriolic and as unoptical as possible so they can
Group in people that are intellectual or that are really effectively moving the the ball down the field advancing
Ideologies we all agree in they want you to act like that so you can discredit the big guys that are doing good stuff
So I love it when people are
Tenacious and excited to speak about this stuff, you know
Sometimes people learn about for the first time and they're full of you know piss and vinegar and they're all happy
But just stay away man
Support, like, support pastor, support Ben, support me, or whatever, but like, make sure
you're skilled enough before you do it, because you're only going to hurt the cause if you're
not.
No one says that enough. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely true and I've seen I've even seen people that
I may not necessarily agree with their position
But they have like a really bad representative and I'm just thinking like there's someone just speaking just thinking like man
You're just not doing any service to your cause here because that's just
It's not really a good way to handle yourself, but it is important to use discretion
And I think that's what you were describing earlier when we're talking about like how to
handle yourself. You kind of use a little bit of discretion on what wording, what choices,
what conversations, what audience, who you're talking to. The Bible definitely talks about
this in multiple places about using meekness and humility and condescending the men of
low estate and all kinds of different language to say, you know, you should think about who
I'm not perfect at that to say the least and I can allow myself to get a little bit emotional
and pedantic or my own personal biases. Me too. Don't worry. You catch me on the wrong day and
yeah. Hey, we're all human, man. We're all human. But of course, you know, this is a subject that's
important to a lot of people. You know, either somebody on our production crew.
that got here on an H1B visa. And I love this person, and I don't know what we would do without
them. But at the same time, I want to be ideologically consistent and say, hey, I don't know that I
want to necessarily expand this program and just allow and import all kinds of random people from
you know, if we could make America, here's the thing, we could fix America very easily. It's just
we have bad people not wanting to fix it and they're causing damage. There's nothing wrong with
open borders if they were driven by ideological continuity. But because we don't have that,
it's a disaster. It is a complete and absolute disaster. America was founded almost on open
But there was a semblance of ideological continuity and that's why America prospered and they they always like to go back and say like
We're a nation of immigrants. We're we open the borders, but that's not why it's not like just opening the borders
Just causes success
Christianity causes success and people that were fleeing to a Christian nation to be Christian is what caused success
people fleeing to a Christian nation to be
Islamic or to be Hindu
will, if they have their way, turn their country into the Middle East or India. And look, there's a
reason why people aren't mass flooding India to live right now. There's a reason why people are not
mass flooding the Middle Eastern countries to live right now. And it's because Christianity is the
truth. It's the superior religion. It's what caused our nation to be great. And we always want to
It's making our nation Christian again and going back on Christian principles that our nation was founded on and so you know
I'm I like the idea of MAGA, but man MAGA needs to get some Christianity injected into it hard
I'm just telling you what
That's what that's what really is gonna make our nation. Yeah, great again. And so
Um, MAGA is, I mean, when they have this girl getting up and praising the God of Wagah Guru or whatever, like, that makes me want to have nothing to do with MAGA.
I'm sorry, like, it just, it's so, like, off-putting.
And I'm not against people that voted for Trump. I get it.
I'm not trying to, like, throw shade. I'm just saying, like, for me personally, it's just like, it's such a killer of energy.
and desire to be a part of it. I mean, I know you voted for Trump. Is the Wah guru not just hurt a
little bit at least though Ben? Well, I mean, of course it did. I thought it was grotesque. I couldn't
even believe it that the RNC was hosting. I mean, if you had taken a screenshot of that
and then told me it was a Democratic convention, I would have believed you. But in fact, it was on
the other side. It just goes to show you that it's not really, it's not a Christian movement by any
At the end of the day, I think what happened with Maga is that it started off a lot better
than it is.
The state of it right now is definitely more moderated, definitely has slowed down, and
a lot of that is maybe this whole idea of let's cast a wide tent, let's try to get as
many people as possible under our umbrella to be as palatable as possible to a whole
bunch of different people, and I don't know what it is, but that really was embarrassing.
I mean, I think that MAGA has basically, I don't know, a better terminology to use
other than, I feel like MAGA has basically spit in the face of Christians.
I think they've abandoned almost all of any hard line positions that really represent
Christian values, obviously, the number one being, you know, the right to life.
only to promote
Horn stars and and and just like it was they were again
I made this statistic earlier about the 85 percent in 2020 and the 88 percent in 2016 were white voters
Well, what do you think the percentage of those white voters were Christian guys? I?
Guarantee it was probably
80 90 percent of them or at least born Christian and perhaps aren't practicing or whatever it might be
But I think that he's betrayed his base
I think that this new tech group that has taken over maga is very loud, but I think it's hardly really anyone and ultimately I think that like I said this whole maga war thing.
I think that a sect of it that's part of this war along with populist and nationalists are arduous devout Christians and I think that.
You know, we're not going to bow at the altar of Elon Musk or Donald Trump.
We want to worship Christ and we want to value and maintain our country.
And so, like, I don't care how funny you are or how much of a big shot you are
or how great your clips are on Twitter are, I don't, I honestly, I'm getting disdain for it
because of the fact that now I believe that he has
Um, he's drawn back on his promises and I think that the promises he made to Christians are some of the worst and the most egregious
Situations where he's not holding this word and in the mainstream, right?
Shamefully has nothing to say they acquiesced on abortion like it was nothing
I mean it just like it was nothing and so I hope people don't forget and I hope that this I hope that some of this
phoniness and some of this fake
right wing Christian conservatism that Donald Trump sold America.
I hope that they pressure him as hard as possible to actually start to walk the walk.
I think we were live to you guys and I'm not happy about it. That's how I feel.
I want to give out a shout out to some of our audience and some of their comments.
So we've got Miss King saying, of course, it's the money.
We've got bro J stew saying AJ is finally in the cool guys club and now he's forgotten where he came from
Music symbol says Alex Jonas an extension of Rush Limbaugh
We've got let's see some of these comments I can't read
Are they like, is there any hate on me or anything?
No, no, no, I haven't seen anything like that.
Everybody's been, everybody's been cool.
That's what's weird, man.
All these stuff, all the times people tripping at Alex Jones,
there's nobody defending him except for people that work for him.
And there's like five guys.
Yeah, they say, why Mrs. Nick Fuentes goes hard
and he's the only one right wing personality
that has a huge audience.
Don't know if that's I think that there's some other people. I mean I've seen you know like stew Peters is pretty big
Obviously, he's a huge really honestly. I'll be on him with him tomorrow at 12 30. He goes almost a little too
I mean, he's my boy. I consider stew a personal friend, but he goes so hard
That's sometimes after like a certain weeks. I'm like, yo do that I can come on next week
But like you gotta let you gotta let that cool down
He went, I saw him go so hard on Alex Jones and then like.
I don't know like a few days later. He was on he was on the show with Alex
And I was just kind of like I was kind of surprised and impressed that Alex would have him on the show
And and this is maybe like three or four weeks ago
So it wasn't like super recent, but I'm just saying like I saw him go pretty hard and then he brought him on so
Obviously, I'm sure he's banned man. He's banned now. Maybe I don't know he's banned now
there there's some guys Jake Shields being one of them that
are just not going to find themselves on Info Wars anytime in the foreseeable future.
And I just think that it's disingenuous when he brings up this idea of like,
oh, there's certain people where they're just totally obsessed with Jews.
All they can think is, Jew this, Jew that, Jew, Jew, Jew.
And I get it. It is out there.
But to paint everyone with the same brush who has concerns about the Israeli influence on our government and on our foreign policy,
is disingenuous and it's a straw man and I just don't think it's accurate.
He also said he didn't he also said he didn't even know Jake and then Jake posted a picture with
both of them under it. That was like a recent picture. And it's like a big time. I'm a little
bit there young. And the other thing too is is honestly guys I've talked to Jake Shields many
times and I've why because I might go on a show I've watched several of his interviews.
He actually is quite a thoughtful guy. He's done tons of different types of content.
Yeah, he talks about Jews, but it's like once every three, four, five episodes. It's not even
That's the thing is, is this is what's happening now is these free speech
true tellers, they're actually gatekeeping the guys that are really
telling the truth and do so in an articulate way, because like I'm
really not kidding you guys, I think if Alex Jones sat down with me, I
think his audience would get really upset.
And I think I'd probably get popular because the dude just not
right on the issues, man.
And and he's the change is the problem.
If we disagree all good, but when you say you're the champion and then you you actually
We found out that you're betting on the other team and you threw an interception on purpose brother
I'm sorry, but just yeah, but he he obviously brought a really articulate person on to talk about the jews
Don't you remember Kanye West?
Well, and I want to give him credit on this too. He's platform flentes many times. He's platformed. Um
Stu peters a couple times
But I and and that's the thing though. It's like that is a respectful
Well, I think that's a good strategy if you're someone that's mainstream. You're someone that may be of YouTube channel
Maybe don't bring Nick on well you should actually that's not what I'm I don't mean that but
You get it. I understand needing to play ball if you're really under some sensorial sort of situation
But I think platforming someone that's controversial is a good alternative
To maybe you not wanting to voice those things yourself at least that shows that you're fine with them being voiced in general
I think Mark Dice is a pretty good example of somebody who's on YouTube right now
But I've still heard him criticize the Jews in Israel and even talked about replacement theology on
video that I've seen of his, so I'm a Mark Dice fan personally. I think he does a good job.
Mark was one of the biggest advocates for Owen when he was in prison and also Mark
is a great example of what I was talking about as far as bringing things with the
angle of being academic or educational along with controversy because it does
it really is disarming and it adds a degree of respectability or credibility
to it and Mark does tremendous with that style
Yeah, I when Alex was in I'm sorry when the Owen was in prison
I actually just reached out to the prisoners to see how easy it is to see people and it was so difficult to visit somebody
That's in prison
I was like really shocked because you'd like fill out this form and then they had like sended the person and they'd have to prove
I don't even think they were getting those forms. I was like
That you know, he see it seemed like they were isolating him hard and that was definitely
kind of gnarly. So people that were supporting him, that's great. I know he got some fan mail,
that was good. Weimus said, Gropers are totally vindicated on going hard. Weimus said,
Mag is dead. Rosemary Heim says, Alex Jones doesn't hold a candle to rush. We see
I wanted to get a couple other of these comments in here.
R-
Oh, it was Rush Lembaugh.
R-W-
So we will be talking about Rush over here
out of respect for him.
WRLATX says Stu is based.
Al-Hizzi says Sam Hyde has a lot of interesting takes
on this on various topics.
Then it says, while I'm aside, Sam Hyde sucks.
Weirdo pervert.
Kanye isn't slow. I mean admittedly Kanye does have had some interesting needs to say but like the whole like
The you who and the net. I mean that was that was kind of like I just feel like it kind of undermined
He has this opportunity to talk about
Jews controlling Hollywood and all these different things that are serious and he's wearing a ski mask the whole time
And then has a net and a you who and he's just like trolling Netanyahu like I just thought it was kind of like
You know, can't you just one time just kind of maybe try to be like a little more serious?
I don't know. I mean if you really care about that issue. Do you know who Gentile news network is on Twitter?
I've only seen the handle. I don't know who it actually is, but okay. Well, he's he's probably not
But long story short. We had a discussion about this yesterday
I was in this group with this guy. I am yes. You are no who's like a big
Sort of like a white advocate on X that Elon Musk follows and it was me GNN and this I'm yes
You are no guy talking together and we were explaining how
for better that for lack of a better term, it's like
if you're going to talk about this stuff like literally wear like a suit like we like we don't
want you to be like Kanye doing those types of theatrics we want you to take it you know don't
look like a stiff but look like a professional serious person like it's so important and all
the people that just go crazy and post the worst stuff it's like bro we need you to like not we're
We're asking you to communicate more effectively so that our ideals actually might have a chance to stick.
It's like no Romans and shit. Yeah, I agree. Sorry another person who presents himself well in my opinion
And it was a big champion of life's people was Elijah Schaefer
Definitely a big supporter of Owen. Love Elijah. He's gonna be coming on the show
Next Monday, so he'd normally be like Tuesdays, but we're gonna have him on Monday
So you want to check us out? We're having just some special episodes this January. We're not doing a full season
but we're going to be having Elijah Schaefer on the show Monday.
We'll probably cover some of these same topics just because they're kind of hot right now but
love to get his thoughts and opinions too and one thing I love about Elijah is he's just like
he's one of the hardest working people I've ever met and he just he doesn't really have a negative
attitude no matter how much opposition he's been you know we all face and you know he has a big voice
But he is hardcore sensor too, and he you know, he's been on Alex several times. He does other things, but
And he has some good takes he has some base takes and I really like Elijah. I really like some of the stuff
He's done and you know, I'm you know, I think that there's still a lot of good people out there
You know, it's it's just it's easy to forget like even Mark Dice, like I haven't even watched
a video of his in a while, but obviously he had a lot of good videos and stuff and just
he gets censored.
He gets taken down.
I don't have anymore.
Yeah, really?
2023.
Yeah.
Just YouTube.
And I just want to say quickly, Elijah Schaefer is one of the realest, nicest guys of his
platform size.
You know, I told, especially with the things going on with Info Wars, as far as their legal
situation, if anybody knows, you know, there's a chance that I may or may not be doing some
work with Owen if it ends up that Info Wars doesn't, you know, doesn't make it.
And so Elijah was one of the first people that I reached out to just saying, Hey, you
Advertisers or it's because if I wouldn't likely have a pretty large show enough to maybe get some ad reads and things of that nature
I'm like he was he was nice enough to
Invite us to come down and have I haven't met him yet
But we're gonna have dinner and all the stuff so like I just want to say that
Like those are the types of guys and the guys like yourself or you really should be supporting these dudes
Because these are really cool guys off of the camera. They're just great men
And there's no coincidence that a lot of the better men are the people that are willing to stand up up to some of this stuff.
Elijah is one of the most genuine people you'll ever meet.
So definitely shout out to him and his buddy from Australia, Ben.
I love all the Ben's.
Okay, Australia Talks.
Ben's also another great guy.
If you want to, if you want a connection over in Australia, I can hook you up and Ben's, I think Ben's also maybe friends with like Chase from
sovereign bra and stuff like that. So Chase is a great guy too. Have you guys ever talked about any chance?
I, I think I reached out one time, but you know, we'd love to hook up with him sometime too. Um, I, I saw Chase, I think for the first time, I think he did Tim Pool.
with Donnie Darko. It's like Donnie Darko and Chase on Tim Kast.
He doesn't do much stuff on camera. He doesn't do much these days, but he's a great guy though. Chase is a real one too. Very nice guy.
He was talking about End Times Prophecy and I liked what he had to say.
Yeah, no, he's also a strong and actually I was in this space with Adam Green and I was texting Chase like dude
You already know that like as far as theology is concerned like I
Like for a kid that went to Catholic school to just like knows the basics like I'll try my best
But I can't this guy's like going hard. I was like, I really need some strong like whether I don't like whatever
Denomination of Christianity, I'll take it but we need someone bad. So that was
We're not to get into Adam Green stuff, but boy man that guy goes hard
I'm not I'm not really
Is that the guy who says Christianity is actually a Jewish yes lie or something I
Would have loved if one of you was in there because like I
Like it was I wasn't going against him in a debate
But no one else up there was even like saying any resistance at all and so I
I felt like a Pee Wee team playing versus an NFL team trying my best, but
I've walked into a couple spaces that was like that and I had to be pretty opinionated it
because I can't just sit there and take some of that.
But, you know, obviously I try to be respectful too
at the same time, but you know, shout out to in Malcolm,
you kind of hooked me up with him a few times.
I've done a couple of spaces with him and-
Adam Green hates Jesus Christ.
I'm sure he does.
Just despises the Lord Jesus Christ.
He's a blasphemous, wicked person.
Well, I had how do you really feel?
It's like I know that hearing shit like that is like so
Deeply like it's like it's not even offensive. It's like honestly. It's like painful. It's like hearing someone talk about
You know like your your mother or something. I got I don't know like it it it it strikes really deep
He's always been cordial to me and stuff. So and we've had some discussions
He's if you only want to talk about like jq and type of things. He's fine
Um, I don't know, I'm not going to talk anything bad about him because he's always been nice to me, but I, I, I agree that, yeah, I don't like hearing those things.
I'll take the heat for that one. Don't worry.
I don't even know the person, but I'll just, I just have to side with my co-host, but, um, you know, at the end of the day,
You wouldn't like him, Pastor.
Yeah, I'm sure.
But I mean, you know,
I've had people that were pretty avicarial that I'm trying to just at least genuinely winning over if they if they're open
To the truth, but the Bible does say man that is in heretic after the first and second ammunition reject
So there has to be some standard in some
some point where you kind of say like no, but
No, we really appreciate you coming on the show and I know you know open borders kind of a controversial topic
But we'd love to have you on for some other topics too in the future
Love to do a space again
You know, of course a co-lab with some of the guys you brought up, you know
I of course if Myron wants to do a Christian debate
I'm down and of course, you know our production crews here is pretty good
So I think that we could do a good showing and we've got a couple other debates
Make sure to tune into the show next Monday too for Elijah Schaefer coming on
and we might have a couple other scheduled shows. I'll try to put out announcements.
You can join our email list, babdisfiast.com slash join, and we can follow Dominique on Twitter
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Make sure to give him a follow if you're not already following him. Is there anywhere else they can do you have anything else?
Any other platforms, you know, I do I actually have an Instagram account that's got like I used to back in the day
I think I was some cool dude
basically like
Falling for all the like hedonistic lies that young men are told these days. I have an Instagram account
It's got a hundred and sixty thousand followers on it. I haven't used it in four or five years
I'd rather people don't follow me on it D. Michael Trippie on X is the place to be all right
And I will say that I would love to work more with you guys especially in 2025
I'm just gonna just be fully transparent man
I thought that I was going to be working literally on a show, even my own show with Owen is recent all the way back in like July, but there's been such an unbelievable roller coaster with the info wars legal situation that it just never happened and now the court date is now this month that was happening even in July.
So I am going to be coming out with a regular stream I believe it's going to be.
Something like nine to it'll be late like nine to 11 p.m. Weekdays, but you'll be able to see me on X
I probably will have a rumble to but yeah D. Michael Trippie on X if you want to
Hate on some immigrants and try to preserve our country
Yeah, we'll have to check out the show when it comes around and
Legal things can take forever and they definitely have a lot of roller coasters. We get it
Thank you so much for joining us on the show great guests
Ben, do you want to say anything else before we sign off?
Nothing else to say other than this.
I've kind of been holding it in for a while, but you brought up...
some things in the Bible about nation-state sovereignty, and I would point to
Genesis chapter 11, the Tower of Babel, as a story where we can clearly see that God
opposes a one-world-to-government system. He opposes globalism, and he does want to have
sovereign nations on the earth. I'm pro
sovereignty, I'm pro-borders, I want the United States to have strong borders and
if people are gonna come here, assimilate to American Christianity, Christian
culture, but you know unfortunately that's not what happening, but I
appreciate very much the opportunity to be here tonight. I thought it was a great
discussion and I'll throw it back over to you, Pastor Shelley, to land the plane.
Yeah, thanks again to our guest great guests. He has great opinions
Definitely a true seeker and so we of course like adding guests onto our show that want to talk about
controversial things talk about, you know, what the truth really is and really appreciate his
collab tonight
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