Hey everybody, thanks for joining us on the Baptist bias. We've got some special guests this evening
Of course, we've got our main
Co-host been the Baptist. We're here live and studio at the vault. So we've taken it over
We've got the Baptist bias in crew and we're doing it rod of iron style. So we're doing it live
Yeah, exactly. Ben, how's it going, Ben? Great. Appreciate the chance to be here. It's gonna be fun. We've got the great guests
Let's go for it
So, of course, we've got Pastor Bruce Mejia from California himself.
It's been a long time since he's been on the show,
but I'm glad to have you back.
Catch up. How's it going?
It's going great. Happy to be here.
Excited about the conference.
and a nice studio.
Yeah, this is epic.
And we're tucked away in the vault, literally.
In the vault.
And I'm excited.
He's going to be the preacher this evening
at the conference, the King James Bible Conference here,
Sure Foundation Baptist Church.
You want to make sure to check out the services.
It's going to be happening in less than an hour.
We're an hour away from service time.
And of course, Pastor Mehill will be preaching.
He'll be preaching a sermon about the Spanish Bible.
We're really excited to hear what he has to say.
Also, we have with us as a guest,
Pastor Enrique Reyes from Springcrest Baptist Church
in Houston, Texas.
How's it going, Pastor Reyes?
It's going well.
Thanks for having me.
Did you do that on purpose?
I'm not sure.
What?
Houston.
What's a Houston?
What is a Houston?
Houston.
He's in Paris.
Houston.
Houston is actually stated in the podcast, right?
See, he just graciously accepts my mistake
and passed away.
He is just like, what is this show?
Do you need more coffee?
We gave each other a look.
I think you need more coffee.
You're from Texas.
Oh, man.
But we we brought on some experts. I mean these guys speak Spanish. All right, so we can talk about the Spanish
Kind of a little bit, you know, they're they're still cool and everything but
You know, and of course it's you have some advantages, you know speaking Spanish
Of course, that's why you get all your baptisms, right?
Isn't it all the Catholics and the Mexicans love to get baptized exactly. Yeah, so it really works out
Give us a little bit of just kind of your view on this Spanish Bible issue, Pastor Mejia,
because, you know, we're at a King James Bible conference,
but we don't want to just forget other people, other languages.
So, why is the Spanish Bible important to you?
Well, I'm going to cover that in my sermon tonight, but, you know, Pastor Thompson had asked me to...
specifically preach on or against the 1960 and you know the you kind of wonder like why is this
even being discussed at a King James conference and it's probably because of the fact that
You know, the Spanish Bible is used a lot in fundamental Baptist churches.
You know, it's really the second most used language in the world.
A lot of people speak it.
Latin America, South America, and Spain.
And so, in the United States of America, you have fundamental Baptist churches
that are used in the King James Bible,
but then they have a Spanish ministry that uses a Bible
that doesn't align with the King James, though they claim it does.
Pastors of these English churches, you know, they're firm on the King James. They double down on it. They back it up
They defend it and they know, you know, they're very educated on the topic
But for some reason when it comes to the Spanish issue
They just shy away from it and it's just really weird. And so I think it is an important it's an important issue to discuss
with other fundamental Baptist to kind of just shed light
on the eras of the 1960 and what Bible should be used and so, yeah, so I think it's important.
What about you, Pastor Reyes? What is, you're actually from Mexico, is that correct?
Yes.
So, you know, talk about the Spanish Bible a little bit, is this importance to you and just kind of
your, you know, experience going to churches and what Bibles are using?
Yeah, so for me to be honest with you
I got ordained in like 2016 in an English church, you know
Under an English ministry and it was until you start really finding out more about the King James more about the things of
The word of God and that it's by faith to faith and so then you know when I went I started seeing other people
Going out there preaching in Spanish. I'm like
I speak the language, I should probably do that, right?
First of all, number one, it would make sense
that you speak the language.
But then the second thing, you start doing the research,
it's not taught in any of the Spanish-speaking languages.
Like you just don't know the history,
they don't give you any backing.
Like you go to any independent fundamental batch of church,
new IFB or not, and you hear about the King James,
and you hear about the King James,
you go to any Spanish church,
and you don't hear about the Reino Valera.
And so it's just accepted, it's just taken for, and then you look in there and there's
all these errors and there's all this basically blasphemy and, you know, just.
It's just an attack on the word of God and so that's for me
It's become important more and more and then of course I've met like Pastor Gomez and I saw the minister
He's done with it and it's just somebody needs to carry that torch really and so for me
It's important because it's first of all my first language, but number two
It's just not spoken about in Spanish circles. They just it's not an important thing to them
As a matter of fact, I'll just end on this point in a conference. It should not be named last year
Pastor me he actually made a really good point and it's been like you
almost like seared into my brain.
No, sealed it better, not seared.
Let's use the proper term.
Can we edit that out?
But you said,
No.
You sealed it into my brain.
I said, the fact that somebody asked them and they said,
hey, why is there not a bigger movement in the Spanish?
And he said, really the reality is
the Spanish people don't want it.
Spanish-speaking people don't want the Spanish Bible.
If they did, they would make a movement to fix it.
It's all Americans.
pushing for that I know by that agonist or whatever it is.
It's not really coming from the Spanish-speaking people, so.
Well, and you know, this is important to me,
not just because where I live,
but at the same time, just a doctrinal perspective,
like I believe in the King James Bible
because I believe the word of God has been preserved.
And if the word of God has been preserved,
and we have a lot of fundamental Baptist churches
that are King James only,
We adhere to what's known as the quote,
textus receptus.
And of course, I lean on other people
that are more knowledgeable, that speak Spanish fluently,
that have a better grasp on the language
to educate myself on this topic.
But at the same time, it's pretty obvious and clear
that the 1960 is not following the same tradition
as the textus receptus, as the King James.
And it seems a little bit,
unusual why ministries that are promoting
Texasceptus beliefs, philosophy, and using the King James
would then promote a Spanish Bible that's kind of more in line with
modern versions. And so, you know, for our ministry we use
the reign of the Lerogoma as 2010.
And in fact, it's even hard to find someone
that's creating these or making these.
So Steadfast Baptist Church,
we actually found someone to help us.
And we've actually made our own New Testaments
at a kind of a more affordable price to be able to give out
so we can hand out to someone we got soul winning
and not put a 1960 in their hand, but put a 2010.
And it's, you know, I've read a lot of this.
I can't say that I've read all of it.
I haven't read all the 1960s, so I am, of course, leaning on other people as far as
that knowledge.
But from a philosophical perspective, I would not want to use a Bible that's not claiming
to even come from the text interceptive, if it's coming from a critical text position.
So it seems weird that there's so many ministries, like y'all said, that are independent from
Obabdis, they have a Spanish service, they have a Spanish ministry, and they're promoting
that is actually kind of in contrast
to the doctrinal statement they hold in English.
They just swapped languages
and then they became liberal or something
or became a completely different Baptist.
And maybe some people are doing it from ignorance.
I don't know, but I think just raising more awareness
of this use is important.
I live in Texas, you know, I had a church in Houston at one point, we're in Dallas, Fort Worth area, but, you know, a quarter of the population or 20% of the people, 20% of the population in many cases, they only speak Spanish.
And so if you want to get a lot of people saved, if you want to grow some of those ministries, Spanish is important. I'm sure in California.
you probably run into a lot of people that only speak Spanish, so it's important that we don't
just neglect people in our neighborhood, in our area, but rather that we give them an opportunity
to hear the word of God in their language, and why would we want to use a bad translation,
it doesn't really make a lot of sense. So, you know, I think this is an important issue,
even if you only speak English, you know, you don't want to hand somebody
the wrong Bible in their particular language.
And so, you know, that's why we've made these.
And, you know, you can always come to our church
and get some.
This is, these ones are at Sure Foundation.
Even if you don't get them from us,
Dr. Gomez, you know, has a way you can purchase
the reign of the Larigomas 2010.
And this work is actually more in line with,
the King James and that philosophy, but I kind of want to ask you about this, Pastor Mejia,
you know, would you go as so far as to say that the reign of the Lord Gomez 2010
is as dialed in as the King James or kind of what is your opinion about this particular work?
In my opinion, when I compare both of them, it lines up with the King James pretty well.
Obviously, there's minor differences. I don't think they're necessarily
You know, I don't think people should split hairs over them.
I think the 1602 is really good as well.
But, you know, in my experience, it seems as though
churches that preach the word of God are so winning a lot.
are evangelizing, are discipling, are succeeding in the ministry,
often use the Gomez.
And I'm not saying anything bad about the 1602, I think it's a great Bible.
And, you know, I've known people who have used the 1602,
but it seems the churches that are succeeding
in the area of the Spanish world and evangelizing,
you know, the Spanish-speaking world are using the Gomez.
And I think that says a lot about maybe God's providential hand on that particular Bible.
What about then the 1960 do you still think that you see a lot of soul winning from that text because you know
I think everything's known by its fruit and when I go out soul winning I use this and it's very effective
We're getting a lot of people saved. So this is definitely very effective
You know when we compare in 1960 to this is it as equivalent as the King James the NIV or are kind of what is
What is the real contrast here that we're looking at the 1960 is comparable to a new King James?
an NIV and even an ESV in a lot of areas and you know obviously if you talk to pastures in
these Spanish churches that use the 1960 they would use the same argument so we'll look at our
fruit you know because a lot of them do go souling they preach hard on sin they go souling they
win a lot of people to Christ you know the the the Romans road is in the 1960 but my answer to that
You know, they're essentially succeeding not necessarily because of the 1960,
but because they learn from American pastors who use the King James Bible.
And I know that personally, because I had a Spanish pastor tell me.
that he specifically said the reason we have the right doctrine, the reason we evangelize the way
we do is because we learn from the white man and the white man uses the King James Bible and so
it's not necessarily something that's accredited to the 1960s actually by proxy the King James Bible
they just use the 1960 and so I wouldn't
you know, a credit the 1960 for the spiritual success of these Spanish churches if they're
experiencing success. It's in spite of the 1960 because the principles they use and the doctrines
they learn were from American pastors using the King James. It almost seems like it's a false
positive. It's like because the King James Bible is their final authority and they've already got
the good doctrine from the King James, they're able to still produce fruit with this tool. But
we would actually see even better fruit and more consistency in that other ministry. Plus,
again, we just don't want to hand out an inferior product, so we want to make sure that if our
doctrine is, hey, we're Texas or Saptas, we're using this lineage of scripture, we want to do that
for the Spanish-speaking people as well and not give them some kind of an inferior product,
something that's based on a corrupted text, because that's just not going to bear the same fruit.
you know, from what I've seen, there's just not a whole lot of integrity or desire to want to see
that from the Spanish world. And it's disappointing to see that in the previous generation. Like,
it's a big deal to us. It's a big deal to the white man, you know? The white man obviously cares a
lot about the Spanish ministries and what they're using. But, you know, a lot of Hispanic churches,
they don't seem to care a whole lot. And so hopefully, in the coming years, the next generation
who are born here, you know, they get saved,
they actually start taking an interest in the right type of Bible to use
and, you know, taking interest in having integrity when using a Bible with the right underlying text
rather than the previous generation to kind of, you know, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil
and just ignore the elephant in the room.
No, I think that's a good point. And, you know, from my perspective,
I had a couple people, like, approach me about the reign of Larigalma's 2010,
and they're saying, hey, we want to...
we wanna see this turn into the King James, right?
We wanna have like basically the same standard
and quality and style and work on it again
and any little tiny issues.
Let's just go from the bishops
to the King James kind of type mentality.
And I said, well, here's the problem.
The reason why the King James came to be
is you just have thousands and thousands of Englishmen.
And and and of course Irish and other people with that kingdom
Desiring a Bible and they're begging for a Bible and they're wanting a Bible
And so then they get that because there's this appetite for it
And I said it doesn't really make sense to give people an even better Bible when they don't even want this one when it's great
It's it's gonna really help you succeed in your Christian life
And so it's almost like we have to get a lot of people saved we kind of have to plow that that ground
We have to break up the hard ground that fallow ground a little bit,
get a lot more people saved,
and, you know, especially in this particular ministry,
the Spanish ministry, getting more people saved in Spanish
and getting them the good doctrine
and getting this appetite built
before you can really necessarily hand them something right.
Yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, there's two problems.
One is there's no desire for a right Bible.
then there's this major desire for the wrong Bible. You know, they are content
with the 1960 and you know, I've talked to pastors and I've shown them the
differences and we just can't have a, you know, a good conversation about it. It
ends up turning into argument. They get offended. You know, they become very
defensive about it. It's, and it kind of shows me that they're happy with where
they're at, you know, and so it's sad, but again, I hope that
a new generation arises. And I do think that does exist. I think there's a new generation of Hispanics
who are coming up, they're using the Spanish Bible, and they actually are concerned about the
Bible that they're using. And so hopefully we see a revival in the Spanish world in that regard.
Why the attachment though to the 19th? Is it because it was the Bible that was passed down to them from
generations past, and so they just have this emotional view towards it, and your estimation, what is the attachment there for?
Well, there's a few reasons why, in my opinion.
Reason number one would be that some of them, sincerely, maybe got saved through the 1960, which that's a valid reason.
But, you know, obviously, there comes a point where you just grow and say, okay, though I got saved from it,
it's because they had the right Romans road, the right gospel there, but integrity says that I should seek for something that's actually
faithful to the underlying text. That's one. But another reason is just because of tradition,
and I kind of compare it to dispensationalism. You know, we grow frustrated with churches
that embrace this dispensationalism in spite of its major errors, in spite of the fact that
it contradicts the word of God, and we kind of, we kind of like, ah, we like pull our hair,
We're good. We're good. Okay. Keep going. So, you know, people, I think it's just a matter of, well,
this is what we've always done. This is the Bible we've always had, though it only comes from the 60s.
You know, this is what our churches use, and so this is what we're gonna stick with.
And then, you know, the other reason, I said two reasons, but here's the third one. Sure. And that is that,
you know, the responsibility falls upon the lap of the pastors. And the problem is is that, you know, if a pastor
ends up switching Bibles, you know, right? Just for sakes to 1960 and
embraces a Gomez
Because it's the right thing to do
They're gonna get canceled from all of their preaching engagements because they have circles that they run with
There are you know leaders within the Spanish world that
They have a lot of influence. They go preach for these men every single year.
And so if they decide to forsake the 1916, go with the Gomez out of principle,
they will be ostracized from their groups, and they don't want that.
And I know a pastor in particular who, that's one of the reasons why he didn't switch.
And he specifically told me, you know, I read the Gomez when I view my daily devotions.
But when I preach, I use the 1916. It's such a crazy thing to say.
Because it's just like, you're okay with getting the word of God yourself.
but when you're feeding the flock, you're giving them this inferior word.
And so it kind of shows you the stronghold that it has in Spanish churches,
not necessarily because it's built on principle,
but it's because they're a respecter of people in a lot of ways, you know?
There's a lot of big-name preachers in Mexico and different parts of the world
that if they found out that these smaller churches, quote-unquote,
switch Bibles, you know, you're done for, you're not going to be invited again.
So that's why we have to create a big movement so they want to switch teams.
And, and get more people like Pastor Reyes, where, you know, you kind of, to me, are this
demographic that I'm saying of people that we built this appetite for.
you know, just this doctrine, these ideas,
and then you kind of wanted that particular Bible,
is that kind of how it happened?
Yeah, and that's, you know, just to add,
because he's coming out from, you know,
and Pastor Mike, he has that experience in the old FB
and kind of with Spanish preachers
where what I've seen it is just being like in the pews,
and there's really nobody representing us
coming from our people, like our land,
being born in our countries that are saying,
Who cares what, you know, the white man or the gringo says or the, you know, whoever came.
It's really that I think that would make a big difference because what happens is they have such influence in other countries and they're respected.
And so if the pastor says, hey, the 1960 and somebody says, well, what about this Bible version and it becomes especially, you know, I'll put it like this, Hispanics are really like.
Respectful, they're really nice and they don't want to stir the waters and so they're kind of you know
That's why they they'll never switch from coca-cola even though they say that to Pepsi just because that's just well coke is better
Well, yeah, but they're loyal to brands and they're loyal to people in spite of all the truth
They love coke down there. Yeah, like it's and I mean Mexican coke's like legit
Oh, no, I love Mexican Coke.
I'm just going to tell you that.
I mean, I don't want them to switch on that.
Hey, we're not trying to switch Coke here.
Coke is the King James of the day.
Yeah, we don't want a soda.
We already got it dialed in.
We don't need to get them to switch or whatever.
But now we need them to adopt back their Mexican Coke,
right?
Yeah.
Well, they know what I did, like, almost 2010, so.
Exactly.
What's like when Coke, like, tried a new recipe?
or something, that was like the 1960.
And so now we're trying to get them back
on the original recipe with better packaging.
That's like the new, that's the reign of Larigoma's 2010.
And so we need to get them out there.
I mean, I think, you know, doing a podcast like this
and talking about these issues is important.
And I think having Spanish ministries,
having more missions trips,
we're doing a Mexico City mission trips.
One of the young men in our church
has kind of helped leading this.
I think he's also working with you.
When is that?
He it's September so he's gonna go early, but I think it's eight the September that week of September 8th
And I think he's going the fifth to scout out the area that weekend before and then I think it's the eighth through
Whatever that would be the 12th or something like that. So like September 8th through the 12th, Mexico City
Missions trip. I'm gonna be making another video about this public announcement perfect
But that's gonna be a great opportunity to go out there, and I think Mexico City on paper
It's like 20 25 million people or something. Yeah, just something crazy like that. I've never been to Mexico City
I've only been cut in a few other areas of Mexico, but Mexico is very receptive to the gospel
And I think that, you know, one of the young men
in our church is kind of mad.
He says like, typically the best preachers
and the best churches in Mexico are white guys.
And he's like, we need to get some natural born citizens
in there.
What's that?
I mean, the largest fundamental Baptist church in Mexico
is rhymed by a white man.
Is it Pastor Wynne?
Yeah, Kevin Wynne.
Kevin Wynne, there's a clip of him.
Smashing the idol.
Just destroying a Mary.
Smashing a Mary idol.
Yeah, I mean, it's pretty epic.
That guy is a hard preacher, too, extremely.
I think he's a Hyles guy, right?
He is, yeah.
It's like, oh, it seems like Jack Hyles just has all the right kind of guys.
You know what I mean?
Well, Brother Nguyen, Pastor Nguyen, has always been that way.
Like, my father-in-law knew Brother Nguyen from Bible College,
and he said that he's just always been that way.
He tells a story, if I can tell the story real quick.
He tells a story, you know, because at House Anderson, they had the bus ministry,
These promotions where it's like, you know, they want to bring the bus kids and so they would give out these little chicks like baby chicks
These animals, right? You like become on the bus. You get a baby chick
So, you know, they get a bunch of kids to come and is that see I have these drugs
Hopefully wouldn't notice I was like hey, how do you know the camera this drugs? I mean the way you guys are just like
It's not, it's not about it's a Marraka.
We have a clip of Kevin Wynn destroying that idol somewhere.
Can we get it to our production crew?
Who has that?
Was it you then?
Yeah, let me see if I can find it again.
So they give out these baby chicks, right?
To bring these bus kids to church.
And then on the way back home,
you know, they're bringing, they take the kids home
and typically on the, it's called the night bus,
everyone preaches, like all the preachers.
So brother Wynn gets up.
And he's like, he grabs the baby chicks.
He's like, this didn't bring the kids.
It was the power of God that brought the kids.
We don't need this.
And he starts throwing the chicks out the window.
He starts throwing the chicks out the window.
And everyone's like, he's sacrificing his chicks.
But he's kind of always been that way.
So he's always been like a powerful preacher
and very passionate.
Well, you know, I think that's great because it just
goes to show you that, yes, the new IFB and our friends.
Yeah, we're hard preachers and the pastors involved in this movement aren't gonna shy away from preaching the truth
We all understand that but there's guys outside of the movement that are doing some great things and Ohio's product
I think it's just further proof that the fruit of Pastor Jack Hiles continues to be made evident
And it's one of the main reasons why people who go against him
It's always a big red flag for me.
Yeah, for some reason, it's just like,
if they hate the new IFB, they hate Hiles.
And if they hate Hiles, they hate the new IFB.
And it's like, you know.
It's amazing how those two things are always connected.
Yeah, I think it's just because, like you said,
some people are just allergic to the truth.
And so for some reason, and again,
Hiles is just really big on soul winning.
And it's just like we're big on soul winning and of course when you're big on soul winning
There's gonna be a tax because that's the main call
Yeah, and we need to go out there and preach the gospel and not just to the English speaking person
But also the Spanish speaking person. I think Spanish is a very important language. I'm still a gringo. My Spanish is not very good
But I try to learn it a lot because there's so many opportunities
to preach the gospel in Spanish.
You you live in the South.
There's going to be so many opportunities.
Mexico is a great opportunity.
They're everywhere has a great opportunity.
Yeah, I mean, they're in every kitchen, you know, on every lawn.
I mean, they're everywhere.
And of course, they love getting baptized, you know, Pastor Mejia just kills.
I mean, where do your baptism in total so far this year?
I think we only have like 30 only 30.
Maybe a little less than 30.
Oh, man, we're 21.
We need to catch up.
So we're trying to give you a little bit of pressure,
but it's just really hard.
You can't compete with the works over here,
the first works over here.
What's all AI, apparently?
I'm just flating.
What do they call it?
They're just making up the numbers, you know?
Oh, you just add up?
It's all AI now.
OK.
You know, I had someone posted, like, oh, you know.
Is he even here?
Is Pastor Mehe even here right now?
This is the AI.
This is all AI.
Stop double.
It's a hologram.
ChatGBT, hologram, yeah.
Pastor Mehe is not even her friend.
We had to make an AI version just so he would show up.
I'm still in Orange County right now.
OK.
Nice.
So you still like the new IFB or what?
I am new IFB.
He is the new IFB.
He's like the godfather.
I am the new IFB.
I am the senate.
I feel like the new IFB is just kind of like on fire right now.
I mean, your church just seems to just be exploding.
Absolutely.
It's always exploding.
Right now it's exploding in attendance.
Sometimes it's exploding like the buildings literally just exploding.
But right now, it's just like your attendance and your growth and just everything just seems to be just like really exploding over there to talk to us.
What's going on in Orange County?
You know, I don't know just all the Lord and God's people who are put in the work and you know
We just don't sit around twiddling our thumbs criticizing other preachers for winning souls to Christ and for preaching sermons and
Pastoring their church. We're not making excuses for the attendances that we run. We're just gonna put in the work
But you're still criticizing pastors. Yeah, the bad pastors
You're just not criticizing for soul winning and building a church and doing stuff for God
Yeah, of course.
Exactly.
And, you know, at the end of the day, the proof is in the pudding, you know what I mean?
And I associate with other men of God who are also doing the same work.
And it just so happens that those same men are still growing their churches or winning
souls to Christ, God's blessing their ministries.
And so, you know, it seems the other side is the one who's actually making up their
numbers if there's any numbers there at all, and, you know, they seem to lack gratitude
Whereas the new IVs just seems to be prospering, succeeding,
going forth, meeting in a vault.
And doing podcasts from the vault.
OK, but we're not just like in some vault.
We're in like an epic vault here.
This is a bank vault.
This is like an awesome studio.
This is a literal bank vault.
Legitimate.
Right.
We broke into the vault.
We dug the tunnel just like the Jews, you know,
in New York City, like, we're in the upper echelon here.
But this is epic.
I mean, this conference is epic.
The spirit here is epic.
And, of course, God sometimes purges us individually
in order to produce more fruit.
But I also think you have to understand
that we're not just a...
We're kind of like a body spiritually, too.
And so, just like we're purged,
I think the new IFB has been purged.
and it keeps being purged so that we don't waste time, money, resources, and friendship
on bad people. Because I think there's just a lot of bad shepherds and bad people that we were
investing money, time, effort, energy, friendship, and grace into. And God was saying, hey, let's stop
giving water, nutrients, and soil to these bad branches. I'm going to prune them off of this tree
and you can end up getting more people safe and do better works because you know what that's just how God works God
Cares about numbers God cares about works and he wants to produce fruit
And so you know when you're not producing fruit he'll cut you off
Real quick and he'll just give all of your assets to a guy that's going to actually bring forth some fruit
And so it's all about works. That's why I love first works baptist church is because
They have works.
They emphasize the works.
They're going out there in the highways and hedges.
They're going on mission strips.
They're really taking it to the enemy.
And, you know, that's why we have so much camaraderie,
is that we all just want to see the work being accomplished.
Well, sometimes you got to dwindle it down to 300 men, you know?
Amen.
Cut off the fat in order to get more glory.
Guys are just drinking like a dog.
You know, just lapping it up like a dog.
It doesn't even matter.
Yeah, he's not sitting back, putting his hands behind his head
and saying, hey, you know what?
I'm sanctified.
He's actually putting in the work in in Pastor Reyes as well. And you know, I want to say one thing too is that
We're unified by doctrine. We're unified by a love for the Lord Jesus Christ. We're unified by the Bible
What in the world can the opponents of our movement say that they're unified by other than a hatred for Pastor Anderson and for us?
What in the world are they actually unified by and what are they actually producing? All they know how to do is tear things down
Meanwhile, we love the RVG 2010 that Steadfast Baptist Church helped to produce.
We love our King James Bible.
We love King James onlyism.
We love mission trips.
We love soul winning.
We love the conferences.
We're producing.
You see the fruit.
What are they doing?
Nothing, other than tearing things down.
Complaining, crying, whining.
And of course, you know, we have Pastor Reyes, also a church,
has seen some growth this year and doing more soul-winning.
I mean, tell us a little bit about this year
and some of what's going on at Spring Crest Baptist Church.
Yeah, I mean, we've...
Grown a hundred percent like it went from one day to the next. I wonder why but anyway
So yeah, that's how it was taken from the one and given to the yeah
But the biggest thing I mean, but honestly
The people that came over like in the people that have shown up they were doing the work
And so we've just increased our soul winning numbers and you know, I mean so winning numbers are
We need to tell them, right?
But sometimes you just go out in the hedges
and the highways with smaller groups
and you just have your numbers that you had.
We had 28 souls won last year.
You know, that was the group that we had to go out
and get the job done.
This year, now we're at 144.
So that's just an answer to prayer
that there's people out there.
And we're not even done with the year.
We're not.
I mean, we're talking about a fourfold increase, basically.
Yeah, no, it's a big increase.
Almost five.
I'm doing quick math on my head off the top of my head, but it's just like wow
That's a huge explosion more soul winners. Is he counting the soul? That's crazy. Yeah, I don't know why you count
Yeah, no one's well doing it cuz you love the law I counted in Spanish
I just want to make sure we can do it in both I think God counts some things in the Bible like oh, yeah
3000 people saved in one day. Why did he do that?
But I do yeah, I do want to say this though because for me that was really important
That's just not just that we're growing
But that it's the church that's growing and for me like one of the greatest weekends that we had was actually when I was sick on
Easter and the soul winning mega marathon. I didn't I didn't even show up to church. I didn't show up to the soul winning marathon
I got strep. I just like laid in bed. And you know what people showed up to go soul winning for the marathon
people showed up to church.
We had a guy like, you know, fill in and everybody showed.
They didn't need, you know,
people always want to focus on like the guy leading,
but the church is run by the people.
Like God's gonna bless those that are doing the work.
It does, it's independent of like myself or anybody here.
It's just the people that want to serve.
And I think that's the biggest blessing
is that in spite of whoever was there running it before,
other people said, hey, we'll take the.
we'll take the torch and run with it.
That was, for me, a much bigger blessing
than just always showing up and doing it.
I don't mind doing the work,
but I wanna be with a team, not just by myself.
It's so much more fun that way.
From my perspective, it's really great to see that
as a result of an entitled brat.
you end up getting blessed, right?
So the failure of another pathetic person
actually ends up helping Spring Crest Baptist Church
in elevating a humble servant of the Lord
who'd been at it for years.
Well, and of course, you know, we talk about growth like just from a numbers perspective
Like the number of people that are coming to church the number of souls that are being saved
But another important growth aspect in the new IFB and in our movement and these like-minded churches is the spiritual growth
and maturity of the people that are going there and you know coming to a conference like this, of course we have
some really expert preachers.
We have Pastor Anderson, super knowledgeable,
expert in a lot of different ways.
Pastor Bruce Mejia is a great preacher,
really knowledgeable on a lot of these topics,
but just the common guy in the pew.
At this conference has so much knowledge right is so highly educated
It's actually very intimidating in many ways to preach to a crowd like this on a topic
Where where there's a lot of information just because the level of intelligence the level of knowledge and wisdom
That's already in the pew makes you feel intimidated to preach to this crowd
because they already have so much knowledge
and so much growth.
Whereas I feel like you talk to the average
Bible college student, you talk to even the average
old I of B pastor, it wouldn't even be surprising to me
that many of just the common laymen, laywomen,
and even children in our churches
have more knowledge and better doctrine.
on a lot of these issues and especially on the King James and so you know the new IFB is a
intellectual movement, it's a spiritually mature movement, it's one where we're getting a lot of
knowledge and I'm seeing a lot of growth in our movement. I'm seeing people making all kinds of
changes in their lives, people becoming more spiritual, more soul-winning, people improving
and people that are very happy.
You come to a King's Names Bible conference like this,
people are just so happy and excited about the Bible.
The fellowship, it's like we stay up so late,
you know, just hanging out and fellowshiping and talking
and we can't get enough of it.
And so, you know...
I think it's all dead.
New FB's dying.
Yeah, it is dying.
It's free-falling.
We're just coping. That's the point of this podcast right now is we're just trying to cope with it. Yeah, I'm just saying
When I go out there, they're gonna be like, what are you talking about? There's no one actually
There's just a bunch of stuffed animals or whatever. Yeah, but just to piggyback off that I'm just saying spiritual growth is important, too
I think that what you just described though
it's just that the new IP does not have apathy.
And I think the reason why, and you had both brought up
that there's kind of an apathetic attitude
when it comes to the Spanish Bible issue
amongst that crowd, it's because, you know, like,
In my mind, if you don't care that much about doctrine and the truth,
you may not necessarily care that much about which Bible you're using.
And I think the reason why people are super into the Bible issue,
Bibliology, King James Onlyism, is because they care about doctrine and ultimately the truth.
Well, and again, I think that while, you know, the Spanish people may not be super zealous about the version issue right now,
I still think that there's a lot of Spanish people that are just zealous for the Lord and they're zealous for
Christianity. And let's just be honest, the Spanish people as a whole, from my perspective,
have a lifestyle that's almost closer to new IVB than a lot of white people. Because you look at Spanish culture,
they have a little bit more respect for
Positions of authority respect for the dad respect for the parents many of them want big families
They have the man going out there and working
It's typically a lot more common for the wife to be at home
And so just a lot of just their lifestyle and their their doctrine is is more in line with
New IFB, which is not just New IFB, it's just the Bible, let's just be honest, just the Bible's doctrines.
And so this is an untapped market of people that really need the Lord and could do great works for the Lord if people get zealous for them
and getting them toward, towards the Lord.
And then if we win a lot of these people and get them zealous,
you know, I think that just helps us on these issues and reaching more people.
And if these churches see, oh, wow!
they're just bringing in all kinds of, you know, young Hispanic families that are zealous for
these issues, and they're thriving on this RVG 2010, you know, might give us a more momentum
to basically, you know, win more people over. Well, I agree. I mean, I think a large portion of
Pastor Anderson's preaching attracted a lot of Hispanics. I mean, I'm one of them, right?
There's a lot of Hispanics who are just, you know, heavy Spanish speakers,
and they love that hard preaching. They love the hard stances. They like the really strict doctrine.
They like the strict ministry. They're attracted to that. And so, you know, maybe they're not
getting that where they're at. And so, you know, I believe the new IP is doing well to attract
people like that because, you know, the new IP is, you know, it doesn't have a cloak of zeal.
And I think just Spanish culture in general is very passionate.
And so when that's transferred over to spiritual things,
it just does well.
Yeah, and receptive, right?
I mean, now it's soul winning.
You both evangelize in Spanish regularly.
It's a receptive crop out there with regard to the.
We go to TJ once or twice a month, and it's always receptive.
We always get a group of like four of us get about 15 to 20 salvations every time we go out in a matter of like two and a half hours.
And people are just super receptive. They're very kind, they're very gracious.
And so it's just, it's, it's a, the fish are biting in the Spanish world for sure.
Well, people kind of have a weird idea of what California is even like, and, and I think even
myself included, you know, we're not there in the trenches, we're just kind of seeing from afar,
and it's just the headlines. And the headlines of California can be pretty brutal at times,
considering the liberalism, the Hollywood, the Gavin Newsom issue, San Francisco, I mean, there's
When you're in the trenches over there, like, when I visit to California, it feels really normal.
In, like, Orange County, it seems like paradise.
I mean, these places seem really nice.
Like, from building a church perspective, you're really succeeding
in what people consider, like, a super-liberal, you know, the hellhole or whatever.
But, like, from your perspective, this is an untapped market of unlimited potentiality.
Absolutely. I mean, even when we were in Los Angeles, we were prospering.
We're seeing a lot of people saved in the liberal areas. People are still very receptive.
And even now, we're in a more conservative area, but people are still receptive.
They love the word of God.
Do they love Trump or what?
They absolutely do.
Yeah, they love Trump.
Trump's America's better than Biden's America.
There's all these tents on the corners selling
like Trump stuff, you know, flags and mug shots.
Trump's better than their false-marry stuff.
In Orange County, you'll see these tents of people
just selling Trump stuff, you know?
Like the American flag with Trump's mug shot in the middle.
Wow.
Is there a lot of MAGA, just MAGA stuff everywhere?
Yeah, you'll see like trucks driving by with like MAGA
and like the Confederate flag and stuff like that.
You know, but like this is Hispanic culture like they kind of embrace Trump too
Or is it kind of more like the redneck white guys or whatever?
I think both of them do because my mom loves Trump, you know, and she she was born in Guatemala
But she she just likes Trump, you know, and I think my dad loves Trump
I think a lot of Hispanics they value not being necessary because they're Christian
But they just have Christian values in that regard I guess like what you're saying and so because he's promoting that he's for that
They want him.
I mean, I think there was an attack from the Democratic Party, like Trump's really going
to be bad on immigration, or he's really cold-hearted, and he just wants to separate families.
But it seems like a lot of Hispanic people are pro-Trump, and they're pro-just being
more conservative and having some more traditional values, even if maybe the border issue's a
off or something, but do you find that like border issues is really that big a deal to
a lot of people in California or what is really important from my experience just because
I'm not really involved in politics. I don't really see it.
Very often. I don't hear about it. Like I don't really talks about it like on X
It seems like yeah, maybe some liberals might throw it as a talking point
But then and you just common interaction with people are people just constantly bringing up the border and they're just so concerned with this
And they just want open borders like I feel like nobody's advocating for this
This is the first time I've ever even talked to someone about it. Yeah, since like, I don't know since the beginning of the year
I mean, are people just navigating open borders in your community?
Like, they didn't care about this kind of stuff?
Like, what does Hispanic community really care about?
Work.
Yeah.
They want a job.
They just want to work.
They want to be able to provide for their family, right?
Yeah.
They want to just basically have a job, provide.
And, you know, this is one thing I don't like about American policy
on these issues in immigration in general,
is I feel like a little bit that America's kind of imported a slave class
because they've allowed a lot of illegals and Hispanic people to come across the border
just become like a full-fledged citizen and be kind of legit on paper and then they kind
of become this subclass of person where they have to just do these odd jobs.
They have to work in, like, lawn care construction or something like that because they can't
be in the system.
And, you know, I just don't like that.
I don't think that that's fair.
I wish that we could have a way to just basically grant amnesty, like, get the bad people out
of people.
I think Reagan did that, right?
Wasn't that in the 80s?
I'm not familiar.
He did amnesty.
I wouldn't be able to fact check.
Sorry.
Did you do a major amnesty, you think?
I think he did, because I think that's how my dad got it.
We need our chat to fact check us on that.
I suggested amnesty on X, and it got me some heat.
I guess X gets mad about that.
X gets mad on both sides.
So you'll have the hardcore leftist come after you,
but even people on the right.
They get mad about amnesty.
But they're already here.
But I don't think there's an issue.
All right, I'll look it up.
We've got like tens or 20 million people that
are at least, at least, probably, higher.
Yeah.
Like just large, how are you going to get all of them out?
Where are they going to go?
The criminals and stuff, I can understand
people being negative toward and not wanting
to grant them amnesty, but you have
plenty of illegals who are in this country
and they're productive members of society,
they're just going about their business.
Yeah, we may not like how it worked,
how it came to be, right?
I don't see the big deal.
Let's just say you take 20 million of them
and you displace them, you just take them five feet
off the border and just drop them off.
Now what is 20 million people right off the border
gonna do?
I mean, how is that humane?
How is that even gonna be safe?
for our border towns and cities,
and you've just disrupted our economy
for basically no reason.
Like to me, you just grant amnesty,
put them in the system,
which would actually cause them
to have to pay a little bit more tax,
but I'm sure a lot of them would just like to say,
like, hey, I'm a legit citizen of the United States.
I have no wifi in the vault.
No, it's kind of like that.
I do think Pastor Shelley was keeping you banned.
You're banned being on the just take my word someone in the Reagan section could look it up
I like how you bring on to Hispanics and then steer the conversation to immigration
Pastor Shelly. Yeah, I mean, of course
Well, I'm just bringing on the whoa, but it just depends also on like when you're talking about immigration it
Going back to like the
the Bible itself. You know, I run into a lot of Hispanics that just don't know that they have opportunities.
They don't know the system. And it's almost like the same thing with the Bible.
They just don't know that there's more doctrine, that there's things that they can improve on.
And when we came to the United States, I was five years old in 1985,
and I wasn't allowed to leave the little area that I was in the Rio Grande Valley until I was 12.
because we went through the proper channels,
but that's not being done anymore.
But that doesn't mean that they're not coming here
with like a good intention.
And I think it's important,
if we can show them a better way,
because they're always gonna feed it back,
and I think it starts with the Bible,
then they're also gonna feed them back the Bible,
because everything that they do to come here,
All the money all the groceries they buy
I mean I literally had an uber with a with a Cuban on the way over here
And you like oh I send them beer and you know me to my Cuban family
And imagine if we could have them send Bibles and good doctrine and all that stuff
It would start here, and then they would transfer that's really big in Spanish culture
Yeah, and like money back to their families. Yeah, they'll come here just to kind of take care of their families back home
But to transfer that over to spiritual things would be even
Yeah, that'd be great.
Absolutely.
Well, we got some different opinions in our chat.
Here we go.
Always, Babdus says, don't agree on this issue.
We have a great immigration procedure
that has to be implemented strictly, period.
Now, here's the thing.
Don't hear me wrong.
I'm not saying that we stop enforcing strict immigration.
I'm just saying, we already have 20 plus million
illegal immigrants in the country.
What are you going to do with that particular problem?
Well, and if you look at the Bible.
You've got to get some criminals out, for sure.
No, well, if you look at the Bible, because I did a sermon on it, I mean, God told the Israelites,
he says, hey, treat the stranger well, because remember, you were strangers in the land of Egypt.
I mean, we're all basically so journeying until we get to heaven.
So, yeah, I'm not advocating for open borders at all. I don't agree with that at all. I'm just
saying we already have a problem. How are you going to deal with that? It's kind of like,
it's kind of like, hey, a woman gets pregnant outside of wedlock. What do you do? Well,
get married to her and raise the c- to the child.
I'm saying let's not commit an abortion here.
But I'm not advocating for fornication.
I'm not advocating for continuing that.
But it's like, we have the problem.
What are we going to do with that problem?
Rosemary Heim says,
California doesn't have redneck white guys.
Is that true, Pastor Mejia?
She's, is that a girl?
Yeah. Yeah, she's right.
What? I mean, there's no rednecks in California?
No, we don't have rednecks.
What is a redneck?
I mean, what you guys are.
I mean, really, you asked, you know?
I mean, in California, we just have a lot of, like,
you know, they're white people.
Yeah, there's white guys.
They're just, like, surfer white guys, kind of, you know?
They're like, what's up, brah?
Yeah, what's up, brah?
And, you know, they're, like, skater, brah.
They're, like, skater brahs.
Yeah, they're just skater brahs, surfer brahs.
California is just magabrah.
Is there, like, magabrah?
But we don't really have, like...
All the Trump brother, I'm all about Trump is gone.
Just got off my tractor.
But they have guys that are growing stuff out there,
like farms and stuff, nowhere?
Yeah, I think that there's people.
You just don't have the tractor boys.
It's just the culture is not there, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
But it's the same thing, though, you know?
Well, I've heard Pastor Anderson told me
that the California accent is the one where there's basically
no accent.
Like the California, yeah, we're the we're the standard for the rest of the country. And everybody everybody that is different
We don't say all right say y'all
Well, you can't say y'all without an accent. It just has that built-in. Right. What do you say you all?
That sounds so weird proper English
You all it's just y'all, right?
Yeah, if I'm talking to a group of people I don't like if I'm talking to my church
I don't go y'all I just I say you guys or so it's like more it's like New York
It's like adopting New York without the accent instead of like use guys, you know, it's like hey you guys
Well use guys is juice
Guys use Bankus, I don't know but
Thanks so much for coming on the show.
We got about 10 minutes until we're going to be having services,
Sure Foundation, Baptist Church,
King James Bible Conference.
And while we are obviously gearing our conference
towards the King James Bible,
it's bigger than the King James Bible
because we're really talking about
the preservation of God's word.
And a lot of the sermons are also bringing up
the Hebrew being preserved.
We're bringing up the Greek being preserved.
That's why we love the King James Bible
because it's the
accurate English translation of the Masoretic Hebrew and the New Testament Koine Greek, and
of course we believe that the Spanish Bible should also be in lockstep.
It should be coming from that Hebrew, it should be coming from that Greek, not from the critical
text, not from those that don't believe we have a Bible, but from those that do believe
we have a Bible, and we stand on that solid rock of the King James Bible, and it seems
on the King James Bible, yet when it comes to the Spanish issue it's almost like they're turning
a blind eye or apathetic towards that particular Bible. And so I'm excited to hear your sermon
tonight, hear about this issue. When it comes to just the Spanish community, is there something
else you kind of wanted to bring up or you want to talk about before we end?
No, just you know, if you are a Spanish speaker who is you know, you're on the fence on this
You know study it out
Just all you have to do is just compare and if you esteem the King James Bible as being the inspired and preserved word of God
Just look at the major differences between the two and don't ignore it. Don't turn your blind eye to it
It's the elephant in the room and you know people just need to come to terms with the fact that it's wrong
And you know, they need to make the switch for for the sake of principle
Because they want the truth. So yeah, well, we love our chat and our chat is gonna help you out Pastor me
It says Rosemary Heim said President Ronald Reagan
Granted amnesty to approximately 2.7 million undocumented immigrants through the Immigration Reform and Control Act of
1986 I
Says well nearly three million people applied for the immigration. Wow. I'm gonna just could say that sounds legit
I didn't fact check this, but I'm just reading the quote.
But she's quoting this specific act of 1986.
So it sounds very likely you brought it up.
I'm going to go with it.
I got two witnesses at this point.
So hey.
President Ronald Reagan. Now, here's the thing, Reagan had some good stuff.
You know, I love his quote,
as pious judges try to get it right, it will not dawn on them
that it's already been gotten right, and that's in the English tongue.
But there's some things that I do have criticisms of Reagan,
because he did sign the law into effect that was no fault divorce in California.
And so, that is something that I really don't agree with.
I wish that we could...
you know, go back on that particular issue specifically.
So, and I think what we have to understand
is that presidents in America have never been perfect.
They have some good and bad.
And I think even with Trump, he's got some good and bad.
But what I like about Trump is that he's,
it seems like he's giving us four years
to really just get a lot of work done.
And I think this is a time
This is the time to get into the new IFB.
This is the time to do work.
This is the time to really stretch ourselves
and to really like lengthen our tent,
basically expand our tents, lengthen our cords,
basically just start expanding our kingdom.
We're gonna strengthen the stakes.
I mean, we're going to go out there.
Let's get some more people in.
And if you're just a casual lister,
you need to get into
a new IFB church, you need to get plugged in.
If you're anywhere in California,
you need to go to First Works Baptist Church
in Orange County.
The place is gorgeous, folks.
Pastor Mejia is one of the greatest preachers
and he will definitely get you baptized.
I mean, they will dunk you underwater.
There is no question.
Houston, Texas, you gotta see
Springcrest Baptist Church, Pastor Reyes.
Hey, steadfast.
We're always there, you know, you can try to get rid of us.
And we just, we're, we just-
Always abounding in the work of the Lord, amen.
You just can't get rid of us, you know.
They try, they try.
The more they afflict us, the more that we grow.
And I'm really excited about our movement.
I'm excited about this year.
We have the Fire Breathing Baptist Fellowship Conference.
Also, I want to plug, I've been kind of holding off,
but hey, Fire Breathing Baptist Fellowship
at the end of August, Steadfast Baptist Church.
I'm a little disappointed you can't come, Pastor Mejia,
but it's not because he hates me.
It's because your wife is expecting,
and it's a total, we totally understand.
Yes, I do not hate you, no.
That's a good excuse.
I have to admit, I'm not even gonna joke,
I'm just gonna say this.
I've been announcing-
I just can't stand the people you're talking about.
I've been announcing FBBF for a while,
and everybody comes up to me,
and they just say,
is Pastor Mejia coming?
They don't even ask about anybody else.
That's the only person they care about.
They always come to me and they're like,
is Pastor Meheil coming?
And I'm like, sorry, his wife is expecting.
So like, I've had to let down so many people.
I'm sorry.
And you know, it's just like, what in the world?
You don't hate your pastor.
Hey, Pastor Meheil.
He's a great friend.
God willing is going to come out the steadfast. He's going to preach for us again
We just got to you know make sure you know, we got the timing lined up
But I'm still excited about the fire being bad as fellowship pastor raises gonna be preaching for us in Spanish
Yeah, at FBF this year. I'm excited about this. Are you excited about that? I am excited
I even have the title of the sermon. What is it? Wow? This is him. This is impressive. I don't know yet. Yeah
It's from the Queen of Valera, 1960.
What?
The porqueria.
The porqueria?
Yeah.
All right.
You've got to help out this.
Porqueria is, it's like saying, like, the swine verse,
but it doesn't translate the same.
You know, in Spanish, like,
Porqueria word for word brothers. Yeah
All right, so give us that word for word literal translation here for Ben or Keria is like pork
So what's the title of your shirt me give us the whole of the the full title is la porqueria de la reina madera
The swine of the of the 1960s nice, but it's more like the like the filth porqueria would translate not literally because porqueria is just like
Filth or the the pig
Stye, the pigstye of the 1960s.
There it is.
That's the one I was looking for.
That's spicy.
That sounds like a spicy one right there.
He understood the assignment.
By everything Baptist fellow.
When I was gonna preach for you,
you were gonna have me preach in Spanish.
And I had my Spanish sermon
and it was gonna be called Calle se la boca.
That's a good one.
It's basically shut your mouth.
But it was all about women.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
Why do I always think of, like, Cayetate?
Because that's what I hear in my Spanish.
You can tell me all the time.
I really wanted to preach that sermon.
Just, you know, I'm going to take all the notes
from your sermon today.
So if you come, when we get it, anyone going to have you,
you're going to preach that sermon.
Yeah, I'm still, it's in my archives.
I want to preach it, yeah.
Yeah, we're ready.
We're open and ready.
It sounds way more open borders to your English.
It sounds stronger in Spanish, you know.
Like, Gaisa La Boca sounds stronger than shut your mouth.
Oh, OK.
It's like, it's more like, I really wanted to preach that.
I'm excited. Hey, the new IFB is on fire folks. And look, we're not holding back. We're preaching
harder. And we're going to be making some cool documentaries. We're working on a soul
winning documentary. We're working on some other documentaries. The feminism documentaries
on the table and it's coming out at some point. So we've got and you know what I wouldn't
want to do is I wouldn't want to be preaching pro feminism stuff because you will make it
and you know people get all offended about this but I don't even care anymore
because I'm just sick and tired all the feminism I'm sick of lies
and you know what I'm fighting back I'm fighting hard
We are fighters in this movement.
Men are born to fight.
We're supposed to fight the good fight of faith.
And you know what?
We are going to champion our beliefs, our doctrine.
And you know what?
I love the new IFB.
I love these guys.
You know, I don't show up at a conference
and I'm just kind of like holding my nose
at the people here or the speakers here or whatever.
It's like, I can't get enough of it.
I can't get enough of this show.
I can't get enough of the Baptist bias.
I can't get enough of this conference.
And you know what, just I can't get enough of the Cybertruck.
I rented a Cybertruck and it's epic.
It is super epic.
Now the people riding with me are terrified for their lives,
but I will say this, I love driving the Cybertruck
because I like to drive like Jihu.
He drives hard and the new IP goes hard.
passed me he goes hard he asked if he could help or got me on wheels he's like
can I drive and I was like yes you can only if you go hard of course
Alright, we got like two minutes left.
Give us just another 30 seconds or something, Pastor Mejia and Pastor Reyes, and we'll end the show.
Yeah, I'm just happy to be here.
Make sure if you live in this area, go to Sherr Foundation Baptist Church as well.
It's a great church.
And if you're in Southern California, pay us a visit.
Come get saved. Come get baptized.
Come listen to some preaching.
Fellowship with God's people.
Do the work with us. Participate.
And so that's pretty much it.
Hey, man, yeah, you got to check out Pastor Mejia, Pastor Rez.
Thanks for coming on.
Anything you want to plug real quick?
I just want to say thank you.
Come to Springcrest in Houston, but also just listening to these guys.
I mean, for me, it's been always been edifying.
I mean, that's how I've been able to build up is just learn from a lot of you guys.
And so that's just really, I think if you guys just taking a moment to take a step back
and just listen to what's being taught and then just apply it in your life,
it's just going to improve your life for the better.
Hey, man, Ben, thanks for being on the show.
I know you're not necessarily a fluent in Spanish, but...
I've never read the RVG 2010 or any Spanish Bible,
nor do I speak the language.
But you contributed to the conversation
and you are physically present.
So for that, I commend you, all right?
Make sure to check out the sermon tonight
from Pastor Mejia.
It's Sure Foundation Baptist Church.
You can check it out on Rumble.
I think they also have some other links.
You can check them out on Facebook.
We're gonna have Pastor Mejia preaching
about the 1960 and the history of the Spanish Bible.
Just a few minutes away.
We're gonna learn a lot of information, folks.
Watch the conference.
You need to listen to this sermon.
Watch it.
If you're thinking about learning a second language,
learn Spanish.
Yep.
and we've got so many resources,
so many people that speak Spanish, Spanish ministries.
Our church has a Spanish service
every Sunday morning, Steadfast Baptist Church.
Brother Diego's been preaching for us consistently.
He's a great preacher, up-and-coming star,
and you should check out those Spanish services.
I think we get several hundred views every single week,
but check them out, Steadfast Baptist Church on Rumble.
You can listen to our Spanish services.
If you know someone that speaks Spanish, send it to them.
And guess what, no matter what,
Just get the Baptist bias.