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back with us. We're just kind of doing an impromptu show this evening, and I wanted to talk about the
Charlie Kirk assassination event.
Now, this is something that's gotten a lot of news, national news, I would even argue
global news.
There's been a lot of different people been talking about this, and I wanted to bring
someone on to talk.
to me about this. So I'm going to bring on a guest this evening. But I do want to also give our
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Pastor Stephen Anderson did a couple of Spaces where he talked about the Charlie Kirk situation
already. You can check out some of the thoughts we had back then, but really it's best to just get
um we've gotten more information it's better for us to talk about it now because we can talk more
intelligently we've got some more information to work with but i'm going to bring on my co-host
for this evening pastor steven anderson how's it going
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that was my fault. I was I was muted. It was operator. I'm really sorry. It's okay.
So we got you here on the show. How's it going Pastor Anderson? It's going great.
I appreciate you having me on.
And we've already talked a little bit about the Charlie Kirk situation, but I kind of wanted to play or not necessarily play but just show a couple different news articles and stuff of just some of the updates to catch some people up on the subject.
But I also kind of want to ask your opinion. Is there anything you feel like you've kind of learned recently about this or something new that kind of stuck out to you at all?
Well, I think that it seems pretty clear that you know the shooter was some kind of a sodomite and it seems like a lot of people
Are trying to argue about this guy's ideology?
But I think that the thing that's pretty clear is that the dude is living with the trainees in the relationship with a transvestite
And obviously that just makes him a faggot.
You know, there's no other way to put it
because a dude who dresses up as a woman
or thinks it's a woman or trying to become a woman
at the end of the day is still a biological male.
You can't change the gender you were born with.
Every cell of your body contains your DNA
that's either male or female DNA.
And so a dude who's burning in lust toward another dude
is what the Bible calls a sodomite.
He's a reprobate.
And so this filthy pervert, of course, the Bible says that
sodomites are full of murder in Romans chapter one and that
they're full of all unrighteousness.
So I think that that's why you see so many things like this
perpetrated by perverted individuals.
And really, I think that what's just becoming clear to the
whole nation right now is that the left in this country,
the Democrat Party especially, is just the party of perverts
now.
It's just a party of just sick, weird, Satan worshipping.
Death cult pervert freak faggot weird other than that. They're great people, but yeah, it's bad
I loved about that was you gave me a little bit of taste of that Ben was here because Ben just goes on these epic
Adjective tirades, and you know, I know that we don't have been he's with us in spirit because that was a really epic montage of
Adjectives there the only thing maybe we get to literate it
You know, next time that would be pretty impressive, but I mean, maybe it'd be better just to start at a and just go all the way to z and do like an acrostic.
That's acrostic is also extra bonus points if you somehow kind of like a left to all the way to end or something.
Yeah, another thing I noticed is that a lot of people.
on the left are like attributing things to Charlie Kirk
that he didn't actually say.
So there's been a lot of just like fake Charlie Kirk
quotes being brought up like.
Look how racist this guy is.
Look how bad this guy is.
When in reality, I saw a bunch of clips from Charlie Kirk
where he's saying like he doesn't even believe in race.
Race is just a social construct.
And you know, we're all the same and stuff.
I mean, the guy was pretty chill.
Like he's a pretty like moderate guy.
He's not even that right wing.
He's just kind of like a vanilla Republican.
Just basically he's just a sane person.
And in our insane country,
if you just speak like a little bit of sanity and common sense you're just considered like this
radical wild man because you're not just affirming every transvestite furry weirdo but I another
thing I wanted to bring up was I saw that there was the thing about Stephen King
Was criticizing him like well, you know, he did say that he wanted gay people stoned or whatever
Which you know, it turned out that he didn't really say that but I'm thinking to myself like man
I kind of I wish he would have said that because that'd be a great thing to say
He says his biblical. Well, he did here's the thing. He did say it
I just don't think he necessarily was advocating for it because I I shared the clip of him
where he's just basically quoting Leviticus 2013, more or less, just kind of paraphrasing it and
saying like, well, the Bible does say this. Now, I think he's kind of like of the opinion like,
that's Old Testament, you know, we wouldn't necessarily do that in the New Testament,
but that is what the Bible did teach and that was what God had prescribed for the Old Testament.
So he wasn't like against it or something. No, he wasn't against it and he even said that it was
part of God's, quote, perfect law in the Old Testament, which obviously, amen to that.
It was God's law. God was obviously right when he prescribed that in Leviticus 2013.
But then just this baboon-faced pervert Stephen King is just acting like, oh, well, I guess,
you know, I guess he just thinks it's okay that he shot or something because, well, he did want
gays killed. It's like, damn right, we want these filthy sodomites executed according to Leviticus
or he's like, what, what does it mean?
Like, you know, a red Leviticus 2013, I just don't even know what it means.
Like, obviously, Stephen King, isn't Stephen King just known
for the wickedness of his literature, because from what I understand,
there's a lot of just kind of sick, demented, perverted things in his books.
I think most people have probably interacted with Stephen King's material through film.
probably the and from what I understand even as bad as the films can be and as
and as you know sinful of a garbage those films can have in them from what I
understand the books are like way worse like somebody said that if they actually
based the film on like the actual book version of like say it for example
that, you know, Stephen King's book it, they said that it would be like NC 17, or it probably
wouldn't even be NC 17, it would just be illegal, because it would just be so filthy
and so perverted to show something like that.
And so this guy's got a sick twisted mind, he's known for just being this twisted frick
who just comes up with all these demented, evil, perverted fantasies, and but then he
gets all like moral and righteous, like he's going to talk down to us as Christians, like
How dare you advocate for these criminals to be executed like Leviticus 2013 says, you know,
like it's so funny how these just totally depraved, evil, non-Christian individuals
will like try to moralize to Christians. Yeah. And like they're like they're gonna tell us how
Perverts or something then that you know because that that makes us loving or something and just just cuz some of our audience is just like
Really really young
I was gonna
Just give you a little taste like his number one. I just looked up as like Stephen King's number one movie
and it's the shining.
So that's where you get that meme,
that famous meme of like acts going through the door
and the girls just like screaming or whatever.
And then he's got Shawshank Redemption,
Carrie, which is some like weird messed up movie.
You have Misery.
DeLores, Clairborn, I haven't seen most of these,
the long walk.
I'm not sure like what his, like from a book perspective,
if they're all one for one
or like what his most famous book is,
but number 11 on this is it was that weird clown thing,
which I've never seen.
Like to me this-
Well, neither have I.
They just looked so demented, I didn't even want to watch it.
I've never read any of his books. I've seen some of the films. I'm not into the horror genre and I never have been and so
You know, I'm not super familiar with his work, but I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge
That his books are are filled with very
you know, graphic, weird, sinful things.
And so, you know, this guy who just dreams up
all these weird things, he's kind of this inventor
of evil things, as it were, you know,
is not really one to lecture us about Christian morality
or, you know, he's gonna interpret Leviticus 2013 for us
or he's gonna interpret Romans one for us.
Why doesn't he just leave that to the Christians
And, you know what I mean, like, it's just hilarious to me when these leftists want to try to have a moral high ground.
They don't have a moral high ground. They're degenerate scum.
Well, and you know, there's definitely a lot of just confusion in general on this topic.
Someone was messaging me and saying that they saw someone saying that Charlie Kirk was a Mormon.
I'm just like I haven't seen that but I guess now what the confusion is coming from is just a shooter was a Mormon
Was like a yeah, that's the shooter was raised Mormon
He obviously wasn't a practicing Mormon and if you think about Mormons are usually pretty into being like Republican and conservative
So I'm pretty sure this guy was just a hater
God because we know that sodomites according to the Bible are haters of God and
Typically people who hate God they also hate their parents
You know and people that are rebelling against God are often rebelling against their parents as well
And so he's probably just rebelling against his parents and just gonna
You know be as liberal and left-wing and by the way, I heard some people saying that oh, I think that the shooter
You know could be a conservative or he didn't think that Charlie Kirk was conservative enough or right-wing enough or something
But here's the thing look at the hard evidence the things that were actually written on the bullet shell casings
Okay, the bullet shell casing casings themselves had messages written on him one of them was like catch fascist
And and we all know that the only people who ever accused
you of being a fascist are people that are on the left, right?
Like nobody's going to accuse someone of being a fascist
because they don't think they're right wing enough.
because typically in political ideologies,
fascism is considered the extreme right wing.
And so when you have liberals calling you a fascist,
just for being like a Republican or just being conservative
or being just a basic evangelical Christian,
just wanting some decency and morality in this country,
it's sort of like we would call liberals commies, right?
That's what we would hurl at them like,
oh, you guys are a bunch of stinking communists,
And then they would be like, oh, you're a fascist, right?
Those are the things that are thrown back and forth.
So the fact that he is firing a bullet at Charlie Kirk
with a message engraved on the casing, catch this fascist,
he's obviously to the left of Charlie Kirk.
Charlie Kirk's a Republican guy.
He's a leftist.
He's a sodomite.
And then he also had some other anti-fascist Italian stuff
written on one of the casings, which obviously fascism
As we know it, you know, that term fascism in the modern time, you know, is usually associated with Benito Mussolini in the World War II era, which is obviously Italy.
And so you have anti-fascist messages, it's clearly coming from a left-wing persuasion.
But, you know, at the end of the day, I don't think the fact that he was raised Mormon,
necessarily super relevant or that you know he's a liberal I mean the big thing
to me is it's a sodomite and and the irony is that Charlie Kirk is literally
being challenged by someone in the crowd
about, what do you mean there's all these transgender shooters?
What are you talking about?
You know what I mean?
And he's literally answering that question when he gets shot.
You know, how many of these school shootings,
how many of these mass shootings are carried out by transvestites?
And then he's in the process of talking about that exact subject.
And then he gets shot, kind of proving his own point.
Like Charlie Kirk is like proving himself right there
by getting shot by some,
Freaking sodomite who lives with a tranny fag buddy and it's like the person who's arguing with him is like
Oh, no, they're not violet as they're shooting him. Right?
I wanna pull up my screen if I can
and show some articles here so we can catch some people up.
Here is a post by Benny Johnson saying,
breaking a family member of Lance Twiggs.
Now this is the supposed roommate of the alleged shooter,
the alleged shooter being Tyler Robinson on the right.
And he's next to his like transgender boyfriend
here dressed up like a weird animal or something.
Tranny, that's his like boyfriend or whatever
It said or it's the family member said about
This twigs is said his family member cut ties with twigs due to his quote
Hostility toward anyone supporting conservative or Christian values end quote
So even his own family members have separated from this twigs which talk about an ironic name for a faggot
I mean, it's like, faggot means a bundle of sticks.
And then this guy's, quote, twigs or whatever.
It's just like, it's just, these people are just insane.
And he's dressing up like an animal,
which is kind of that furry, weird, creepy stuff
that people are into.
One of the bullet casings supposedly had some literature
on it that was supposed to be kind of like based
on this furry lingo.
this this meme talk or meme slang that's kind of insinuating a bunch of furry transgender
sodomite filth. And so
These people are not conservatives and I think that's maybe a mistake that the left and the liberal media and the Democrats made early
As they said, oh, he's in a conservative family. Therefore. He's a conservative
But just because you're raised in a conservative family doesn't mean you're going to be conservative yourself
Against their parents. Have we not learned that exactly
I mean this guy doesn't look like a parent's generation to the next, you know
Where it's like children are trying to be different than their parents are going the opposite direction of their parents
You see that even in the Bible with like the kings of Judah where there's like a back and forth
Where you'll have like a good king and then a bad king and then a good king and a bad king even though
It's hereditary even though it's the same family and so
Obviously, the liberals just really wanted this to be some radical right-winger, but
why would a radical right-winger like shoot Charlie Kirk doesn't even make sense?
It makes a lot of sense, though, that while he's talking crap about trannies, he gets
shot by a tranny lovin' weirdo while he's talking crap about trannies.
That actually makes sense.
Right.
You know a key passage in the New Testament when we're thinking about sodomites homos and all these different things and you know one of the things that it says when it's kind of going down the list of how they got there.
And how these people were given over to these vile affections and how they became these these freaks because we know they're not born that way you know they chose to go down this dark path.
in Romans chapter one, but it says that one of the things that they did, that they did in verse 23,
is that they changed the glory of the uncorruptible God.
into an image made like to corruptible man and to birds and four-footed beasts and creeping things,
wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts to dishonor their own bodies between themselves.
And so it talks about them like changing the image of God into that of a man or of a beast or a four-footed thing or whatever.
And it's, you know, if you think about human beings are made in the image of God. We are men
the image of God Almighty and then and then it's like they don't even want to
they want to drag themselves down to the level of a beast right and say like you
know no I don't want to be in God's image I'd rather be this furry animal freak
or whatever and I just heard about this furry thing like I heard about it a
couple years ago somebody just said like oh they're dressing up like animals or
whatever
In going to school. I thought it was just like kids like cosplaying or something
You know what I mean that they're just kind of dressing up
They were making jokes that they were having like they're asking for kennels and for like doggy bowls and like all this weird stuff in schools
And and the liberals are acting like it wasn't real, but I mean and again how much this is actually happening
I don't know, but it is really happening here and I mean there are freaks doing this kind of stuff. I mean
anything and everything's on the table with these people. And I think that's the point of
Roman's one is it's trying to articulate the fact that when someone becomes reprobate, they
basically lose a conscience, they lose natural affection, and they are capable of doing anything
of all unimaginable evils, things that we actually find gross, they kind of find pleasant.
You know, and I remember growing up, there was this TV show called Fear Factor.
where people would do like these really gross things and and it seemed like they even enjoyed it
and like looking back in hindsight i'm kind of wondering like maybe that shows this design
for reprobates because it's just like they somehow just like like doing gross weird things that normal
people wouldn't but i mean that is kind of what a reprobate is is this guy that doesn't have the
governor on on their car
where they can just go any speed essentially like all of us sin all of us do things that are wrong
and the bible makes a difference between natural sin and an unnatural sin or a vile affection
and that's where we see these people crossing clear lines clear boundaries because at the end of the day
everybody's tempted to lie occasionally or maybe even steal or covet or you know do a lot of these sins
that the Bible is constantly bringing up, we just all have that temptation available to us.
But normal guys, it's not only that they aren't really attempted with men, they think it's gross.
It's not only that it's just like not on the table, it's that it's actually the worst thing imaginable.
It's so off-putting, it's so disgusting, it's so reprobate.
And that's just to show God's angry with these people for having rejected the truth that He's given them.
You know, some people kind of question like,
well, I don't know, like, how do these people come reprobate?
Well, essentially they've been given truth by God that...
God exists, that the Bible is God's Word, and or the Gospel, and or a clear presentation of
the Gospel, but only they rejected one of those layers of truth. And because of that,
God is just giving up on them because of their rejection of Him. Just like Pharaoh
kept hardening his heart, then God's like, fine, I'll harden your heart. And so in these cases,
these people are hardening their hearts and then eventually they cross a line and God hardens their
process works, but we know what the end result looks like. And when someone's a pedophile,
when someone's a sodomite, when someone's a fag, they've obviously crossed that boundary,
God's given up on them, and they're extremely dangerous. And I think for a lot of Christians,
they just didn't want to believe that. They didn't want to think that that's real. They've
forgotten that in American history, we used to have the capital punishment for sodomy because
we understood those people are evil and dangerous and need to be punished according to God's law.
It's sad that we have to have people like Charlie Kirk
and others die because we've forgotten
that these people are dangerous,
because we've forgotten how vile they are.
Well, at least figuring it out, though, right?
Yeah, and I want to cover this subject real quickly
from a broad perspective, to catch our audience up,
kind of where we're at, same page.
Charlie Kirk was shot last week,
at the beginning of the week,
and initially we didn't know who did it,
it took like maybe a day or two, it said 33 hours, which a lot of people pointed that number
being suspicious, but 33 hours for this particular kid to turn himself in. Supposedly his dad convinced
him and his dad kind of assisted in turning him in. There's been video footage of basically a guy
being on a roof, which looks like the location where he was shot at from and he kind of ran off
the roof. Some people have said like it doesn't look like he has a rifle exactly, but
I've seen some still shots that look like there was probably a rifle.
It was definitely something he was carrying.
It was very obvious he was carrying something look like it was probably the rifle.
He does flee towards the wooded area where they claim they found the weapon.
And, you know, that shot being a 200 yard shot would be something that someone
that has been, you know, shooting in the past or had experienced shooting
could definitely make a lot of people said it's not that hard of a shot
for someone that has experience and they say he grew up like.
He grew up.
Yeah, he grew up on guns.
It's pretty obvious.
A lot of pictures of this kid that's the alleged shooter.
American Southwest is usually like that, right?
Yeah.
Utah, Arizona, New Mexico.
It's kind of part of the culture.
It appears that he would have the experience
to make that shot.
It's not unreasonable to think that this kid could
have made that shot.
So, again, if we just go with the official narrative,
this kid is the shooter.
Now, again, motives haven't really been ascertained entirely,
did this kid come up with all the scheme by himself? Is someone helping him? How many
co-conspirators? I think that's still an ongoing investigation. A lot of people initially thought
maybe this is Israel-related and
Hey, you know, I think that's always a fair question to ask and try to see like,
is there connections? Is there something happening? Because a lot of recent videos came out about
Charlie Kirk being kind of negative on Israel or backing down a little bit. I mean, he's overall
pretty pro Zionist person, pretty pro Israel person. But here's what I've noticed too though,
is that a lot of times being pro Israel, it's like you're never pro Israel enough because it's like
you know, Israel wants you really pro-Israel.
Oh yeah, if you're not Greg Locke,
then you're not pro-Israel.
So even just questioning it a little bit,
starting to be a little bit negative
and starting to act like, well, you know,
maybe there's two sides to this,
you know, that's already just blasphemy to these people
because they want you to just,
I mean, if you literally, I remember back
when I used to listen to conservative talk radio
just on long drives and stuff,
And I remember listening they played a clip of somebody basically just saying hey, you know, we're all equal as human beings so you know Jews are not superior.
They're not better than us you know we're all the same and then and then the the the talk show host it was like Mark Levin or something one of those guys.
I'm pretty sure it was him was just like you see how anti-Semitic this is.
It's like what in the world right here thing and I've been preaching for the last 20 years there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek.
We're all you know, we're all one in Christ Jesus and here's the thing anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus is equally damned and
The Jews are going to the same hell that the Buddhists and the Hindus and the Muslims are going to
They're all going to that same hell because if you don't believe that Jesus is the Son of God
You're gonna burn in hell. That's what the Bible says and and so just even if you just teach that people are just equal
That's not good enough like you have to believe that the Jews are God's special chosen people that they are superior
To the Gentiles or like it's like it's like your it's like your teenage daughter is Israel
And and she asks for like money for the weekend and you give her 100 bucks and that's not enough
It's like an unlimited credit card where you can buy anything you want or you're not pro enough your daughter here
And it's it's like anybody that doesn't just agree with everything israel's ever said or done or just said like
I already agree with whatever you're gonna do and I don't even know what you're gonna do yet
Like if you're not that then you're basically anti-semitic it seems like yeah, but but that being said like I can see where people are coming from because you know
they're digging through though hundreds of hours of Charlie Kirk talking and then they pull out
just these kind of really mild quasi criticisms. I really doubt that Israel is just gonna blow you
away for just kind of criticizing that mildly but then you know there's conspiracy theories like
he was about to really come out against Israel but he was too scared, he's afraid they're gonna
He was a Zionist. We know he was a Zionist. He was pro-Israel, but here's the thing. He's still a Christian guy
We still agree with him on a bunch of other stuff even though we disagree with him on Israel
We agree with him on a lot of other things. He's good, you know that he's against
You know the homo agenda the trans
the transvestite agenda and that he's for like, you know, just fiscal conservatism or whatever,
you know, obviously he's not just like, it's just kind of a vanilla kind of conservative
Republican guy, you know, and I think that he was just probably blown away by some
trainee weirdo leftist freak because look, we've seen a lot of just violence from the left.
Well, and again, I think some people just kind of wonder
how much he may been influenced, you know, by some dark forces potentially.
And I wonder that myself.
I don't know the answer.
Like demonic or?
No, well, I think that's possible, too.
But I'm just saying more like, is there some dark forces
that are just on the Internet, just kind of suggesting things,
kind of like inception, just kind of like going out there saying,
you know, finding people that are disgruntled, angry or whatever.
Like, ah, Jen, prepos-
Agen's provocateur that are online,
like trying to foment and trying to rile up
people like this guy.
Yeah, they find someone that's disgruntled,
capable of shooting and they say,
hey, you know, Charlie Kirk's gonna be in your area
in the next couple of weeks.
That would be an interesting target or something.
And just kind of like planting ideas.
I don't know.
I'm not saying that happened,
but I'm just saying like it's an interesting thing
to explore what kind of co-conspirators,
what kind of help this kid may or may not have had.
Did he just plant it on himself?
Was it just him and some like disgruntled tranny people?
Or did he have potentially some other dark forces?
You know, one motive I've heard, again,
is just that Charlie Kirk might have been a target
because he seemed like a possible presidential candidate
down the road, like he's gaining a lot of popularity.
He could really take the Republican party
to the next level and they kind of want to,
they kind of want to put an extinguish.
you know fire extinguisher to his fire in a sense um that he's been so popular
there was a lot of was was charlie kirk was charlie kirk really like that different than a lot of other
you know conservative kind of
Voices or personalities or talking I think that he was a very clearly very constitutional like he he was very like heavy in
Constitution, I think he wanted a limited federal government
I think he was pushing back on a lot of like the government overreach in general
He was critical of a lot of the immigration issues
He suggested that October 7th that happened in Israel was potentially like a stand-down order
So like I think that he just he's a critical thinker that's smart got a lot of good people around him
He's a he's a he's an actual he's probably a real Christian like I think he probably was saved is a real Christian
So he's just gonna resonate with the truth more than a lot of these fake Christians people like Trump who's not even actually saved
And so, you know, he could be a dangerous person for them politically that he just keeps getting more and more popular.
Yeah, but don't you think that he's probably reaching more people in his death than his life because it seems like he's just gaining like millions of followers, turning point USA is gaining millions of followers.
And you know, obviously ASU, where I live here, is...
A liberal university in general obviously there are a lot of conservative professors there are a lot of conservative students but in general obviously the culture over there is very left wing.
Their mascot's the devil and obviously is pretty liberal is pretty left wing but even there having like a giant.
Charlie Kirk vigil in their giant football stadium tonight. It's free. It's open to the public and
They're covering all the costs like the school themselves are covering the whole cost
So that no student groups have to pay anything
No attendees have to pay anything. It's just a totally free event grotesque of Arizona State University
So I mean even elect left-wing University is putting on
a vigil for Charlie Kirk right now and it's it's probably packed with people I would guess yeah,
and so I feel like you know, whatever this idiot
who shot him thought he was trying to achieve.
I'm pretty sure he achieved the exact opposite because he just made Charlie Kirk about a thousand times more popular.
You know, I've barely have seen Charlie Kirk stuff pop up in my feed.
Now my entire feed is just wall to wall, Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk.
So, so I mean, the guy has exploded in popularity.
And I mean, you think you think he'd be packing out stadiums all over America, you know, if he hadn't been shot.
I think he's reaching more people in his death than his life, and so maybe God is...
Yeah, maybe God is just blessing us with this that you know, even though Charlie Kirk had to be sacrificed
Which is obviously sad for his family
But you know, I think that that sacrifice is probably accomplishing a lot to bring a little bit of sanity and
Normalsy and decency to our country because I think it's gonna pull a lot of people over to the conservative side
And here's the thing frankly there was already a huge wave
of just anti-sodomite sentiment and anti-left-wing trend
this year, like ever since January,
it just seemed like everything is shifting over
to normalcy and people are sick
of all the weird perverted crap.
And then I feel like this,
is just another giant leap in that direction.
So I think in the long run, obviously,
we don't want these type of things to happen,
not condoning what happened, but here's the thing,
God works all things together for good.
And so at the end of the day,
I think this is gonna be a blessing in disguise, ultimately.
And I think if Charlie Kirk's in heaven,
he's probably, first of all, I'll put it this way.
You know, I don't want to be shot and killed, but here's the thing, I guarantee you that as soon as you get to heaven
You're glad to be there. You're not like, oh man, I wish I would be you know, put me back down there
You're probably just like sweet. I'm in heaven. This is cool. I don't want to go back
Screw that, you know, well Paul said it was far better. He said he had a desire to the part and be with Christ
Which is far better. So like it's our better
You just instantly promoted to a much better standard of living just instantly
So once you're there once you're there, you're super happy to be there
And then he's looking down and just saying oh man my message is getting out
Let's say he would have lived another 40 years 50 more years
Would he have really like done more in those 40 or 50 years?
Because he's kind of getting 40 or 50 years worth like packed into like a couple
weeks as far as just reaching just millions of people and just kind
of making a huge impact.
And so, you know, it seems like he went out pretty painless.
The lights immediately probably just went out and if he's in heaven and,
and, you know, his message is getting out better than ever.
I mean the biggest victims is probably just his wife and children honestly because yeah, you know for him
He's in a better place
Christianity is getting a huge boost right now
Pull this up on my screen because one of the things you said I think this is a great
Testimony to what we're talking about is that you know being an afag is never been less popular
than right now over the course of the last about 10 years I would say and
This is some like Jew guy. That's just
just a total libtard idiot but this is what he said he said imagine being a transgender person
in America today with all the hate and demonization that is being directed at them
and he can even feel it he can tell like hey people
are not liking trannies right now.
The transvestites have never been more unpopular
than right now.
And again, they were always unpopular.
Let's just be honest.
Yeah, news, it's like newsflags.
Two weeks ago.
You can bring us back on the screen, but.
Two weeks ago, we already hated them
and thought they were gross.
They were already.
I think some people are playing catch-up though.
Some Christians are-
Yeah, some people are catching up.
Yeah, it's like, welcome to the party, pal.
We were already there.
We couldn't really get much more maxed out.
But think about how just any normal person who's walking down the street and sees one
of these dudes in drag is grossed out, wants to get away from them, wants to avoid them.
I mean, I would cross to the other side of the street.
You know, I've walked up to like buy something before and there's like a transvestite in
front of me and the cash, you know, I literally just not even buy anything.
If there's not another register, you know, it's just like I'm just kind of just getting away from that. Just get away from them. Right. You know, and I think and I guarantee you that most people feel the same way.
Most people are like repulsed, grossed out, horrified. And so, yeah, it's like you said, some people are just playing catch up.
and just, but it's good that people are coming around.
And, you know, when I preached yesterday on this,
because I tied this in with my sermon yesterday
about Errolis Times, and I talked about, you know,
in my sermon,
how the Bible describes all these horrible people and says, you know,
they shall proceed no further, for their folly shall be manifest unto all men.
And I feel like the folly of the left, the folly of the sodomites,
the folly of the commies and freaks and weirdos in this country,
is just being like laid bare because we're seeing them for what they really are, these
these devilish ghouls.
dancing on the corpse of some just chill guy who just said things they didn't like.
They're not accusing him of committing any crime or actually...
attacking anyone, assaulting anyone, killing anyone, harming anyone, they're just dancing
on his grave because he was supposedly racist, misogynistic, homophobic, which he wasn't
even racist at all. He wasn't misogynistic at all. Not the only quotes like that are
fake quotes. He said tons of things to prove that he was not racist and not misogynistic.
should be disgusted by those things.
Every Christian should be homophobic, transphobic.
If you're not, you don't even believe the Bible.
Well, and again...
When we talk about this issue, people are really waking up
and we're seeing the worst come out of these people.
Like you said, they're following, being manifest.
Show this other article, pull this up on the screen,
breaking a Canadian teacher,
which Canada is not conservative right wing.
They're like, they're really off the deep end,
but a Canadian teacher has been suspended
and listen what they were doing.
After forcing a class full of 10 year olds
to watch the video, Charlie Kirk's assassination,
over and over again while ranting about fascism like what a psychopath is just sitting here just
watching Charlie Kirk just being killed over and over and over again just yelling fascism
I mean that makes me think of like 1984 like two minute of hate like the two minutes hate
just like putting on the screen like hey hey fascist fascist die die
it's like that's what these people really are like like this isn't a parody
That really happened and we really are seeing these people foment their folly, their shame,
their hatred, their evil. You know, their biggest mantra for the last 10 years has been love is
love and now we're seeing their hatred on full display that they can't really hide behind anymore
And I wanna get some, we have some call-ins.
So I wanna get to our call-ins here in a second.
I just wanna make sure I kinda wrap up for our audience
because I know a couple of people even asked me,
they said, hey, I have a hard time
even knowing what's going on
because the mainstream media says all kinds of weird stuff
and there's a lot of things online.
So again, we already went through a quick recap
a little bit.
Charlie Kirk was assassinated last week.
The shooter is this alleged Tyler Robinson.
He grew up Mormon, he grew up in a conservative family,
he grew up shooting guns,
but it appears that he very much had nothing
to do with Mormonism anymore.
was not conservative anymore, was pretty much abandoned from his family, is living with some
tranny. And they're both become radical leftists. They hate, you know, conservatives, they hate
Christianity, they hate the Bible. And Charlie Kirk is just a symbol of Christianity, the Bible.
And so,
this plot to kill him seems like the motive is pretty clear. It's pretty much just out in the
open. These, you know, radical leftists, these trannies, they just hate Christians in general.
And so their motive was there to just kill Charlie Kirk or any Christian. And we can see
hundreds of thousands of these sodomites all celebrating his death showing that they agree
that motives there. There's a lot of these people that have these kind of feelings. He was not
some kind of a MAGA person. I think the the mainstream media said he was MAGA or conservative,
all this bizarre nonsense. You mean that the shooter, they were trying to say the shooter was
a MAGA person. It's absurd. And again, it's literally etched into metal what the guy's agenda was.
Right. The bullet a-sings literally, because you know, people can say this, say that,
That's found in the gun on the scene and it's literally etched in the metal catch this fascist
Well again, that's something that people that are on the left say no one else would say that except someone on the left
It wouldn't make any sense coming from
a MAGA person, some far-right person,
some kind of a white supremacist or whatever.
And you talk about 1984, 1984 is a work of fiction.
And sometimes reading 1984, it can seem like,
oh, it's a little extreme, a little far-fetched.
But in reality, the truth is worse than 1984.
The truth is weirder than 1984.
Like, we were talking about this book the other day,
The Bridge and Endow by James Midgster.
And this is actually,
Not fiction. This is actually even though James Mitchell went on to become a famous fiction writer
this is actually nonfiction and
Also, the Gulag Archipelago by Alexander Solzhenitsyn is nonfiction
The the nice thing about this book is much shorter easier read
You know, I think that if people read this, it would probably change their politics a lot to read about what happened in the Hungarian Revolution in 1956.
And, you know, when you read about all the weird, sick Soviet Communist stuff in here, this book is worse than 1984, and it's actually not fiction.
And so, I mean, you know, 1984 is still helpful, but, you know, this is even...
I think even more helpful.
Yeah, sometimes you try to hyperbolize how evil people are
and you don't realize that you're actually underplaying
the evil they have.
Now, again, some people, you know,
there's a lot of conspiracy theories surrounding
this particular, this situation, this event.
And, you know, for the most part, at first,
it definitely felt like there was a pro involved
or that there was maybe some conspiracy,
there was some,
people that were kind of helping the shooter or there could have been a lot of foul play.
I think that there's still you know some things that need to be answered, some questions about
just some of the people that
Pretended to be kind of involved and they kind of seem like they were decoys potentially
Just that the planning and the scheming about the whole event seems off that maybe this kid just did all by himself
It seems like there might have been some people that were helping him
Obviously a lot of people have insinuated that there could be some Israel connection. I don't know exactly but there's also just
there's crazy conspiracy theories about this just like that the people standing next to him
are the real shooters and stuff including one of them is like the apologist Frank Turrick and it's
like come on come on people like Frank Turrick is not the real shooter or something standing over
on the side or something it's like you know we need to be careful that we don't like go off the
issue. I noticed that there was a lot of good videos when it came out but then there was videos like
there's no planes involved, it's all holograms, like just kind of like bizarre weird narratives
and I think it's best to try and not get caught in these like extremely bizarre reality-denying
narratives that are out there but you know for me I kind of believe you know what's being put out by
just the main sources, the main law enforcement officials
and what happened. Some people didn't say Charlie Kirk's not really dead. Look,
Charlie Kirk, I believe he's dead. I believe he was saved. I believe he's in heaven. I believe
the shooter is the Tyler Robinson as described. How about Occam's razor? Yeah, the simplest
explanation is the most likely. And I think that it seems to fit that he's the shooter.
I would agree that it's possible that it's kind of like an owner is walking down the
street with a pit bull and he lets go of the pit bull and the pit bull, you know, we're
all focusing on the pit bull.
And it's like, it's partly also the owner that let go of the pit bull a little bit.
So like, is it possible that there's someone kind of like behind the scenes that stirred
this kid up and was helping him?
Yeah, maybe there's a connection.
But at the end of the day, like that's an unhelpful narrative because let's let's say
it's going to change absolutely nothing for me, because they definitely did 9-11.
They definitely are the synagogue of Satan. They're definitely just evil and, you know,
anti-Christ. So like, even if they did this, yeah, I'm saying, even if they did this, I still
dislike them and want nothing to do with that country or support them, even if it wasn't true.
If it is true, it doesn't change anything for me. And when it comes to this
Just like pit bulls are dangerous, they should still get blamed for when they do harmful things.
So like, to me, there's not really any benefit to even figuring out for sure if Mossad or Israel was involved with it.
But if the story makes sense without it, if the story already makes sense without it,
and then there's no hard evidence for it,
Why would we believe it? You know what I mean? Like like it'd be one thing if it's like, oh man
Something's not adding up. This doesn't make sense and whatever, but it I don't know in my opinion
And maybe I'm wrong but in my opinion like the Israel thing is just far-fetched because I haven't seen any evidence for it
It doesn't really make sense since Charlie Kirk was pretty pro-Israel and this thing of all we were starting to wake up
He asked a few uncomfortable questions. Yeah, but he was still pretty pro-Israel. Let's just be real
And, you know, I don't think he's just going to get blown away for such a mild criticism or whatever.
And again, the story makes sense without it.
and you don't have any evidence.
So, you know, why don't we just shelf that
until there's actually evidence of that?
I mean, did NetNahoo pay you to say that just now,
or like, did you get the call?
I'm just saying, like, just shelf that
because it doesn't matter.
Yeah, it's not helpful.
And the story makes perfect sense without it.
It just makes sense.
that this this this punk kid he's raised in a conservative family but he grows up to become some
liberal rebellious faggot and he's just filled with violence because that's what sodomites are
they're gross yeah violence they they have those proclivities according to roman's one
and i mean your pitbull analogy is good you know did someone you know turn him loose on charlie
Either way the you know the pit bull is the one who's doing the mauling either way and so whether we know who the owner was or wasn't and here's the thing
If you want to know if israel's bad just look inside the bible and the bible already explains to you
What the problem with israel and the jews are we already believe it because it's in scripture
So right you know we like you said we don't need this
in order to, and it's like, isn't Israel already just killing a lot of people just on the record?
So we don't necessarily have to just dig up these kind of wild-eyed conspiracy theories that don't
have evidence to add to Israel's roster of murder and mayhem, because there's already enough
like murderous terrorist acts that they're doing on the record.
When a lot of people are saying there's there's a lot of people criticizing Israel right now, like a lot more people that are just like really good here.
So, so why wouldn't they be the targets? You know, it's like Charlie Kirk wasn't the most anti-Israel guy.
So it wasn't anti-Israel at all. If we're real, if we're yeah, he's not, he wasn't at all. He was pro-Israel.
And really deserves death or something. That's stupid. But I want to go to some of our callers here.
I think we got a caller vitally from Rogersville, Missouri.
Um, she was hoping to come on the show vitally. How's it going?
Good. How are you?
Great.
What'd you do?
Oh, not much. I just, uh, wanted to say thank you for, you know,
everything that you guys do and kind of, you know, preaching,
preaching the truth. And it's honestly really sad that
You know Charlie was murdered and I just the only thing I wanted to say was
He was he was saved and the reason I say that or I believe that was if I don't know if you could pull it up
But his wife gave a speech
She gave a speech, I don't know if you could pull it up on YouTube or whatever, but she says that
You know nobody is too old nobody's too young and if you confess that you know, Christ is your saver and he rose from the death
You'll be saved and I
Generally sad that you know, he was he was such a
Big voice and you know being a conservative and
Pastry answer the question like was he so super radical or was he you know what kind of what made him stand out?
And I really think it was
That he actually went to the colleges where most of the people are actually brainwashed by these
You know liberals and all that and he kind of gave him a different perspective on
You know being the man having a family raising kids and
He made it cool kind of he made it seem not weird and
It was kind of good to see Bob. I'm really glad that people are kind of realizing
The awakening or whatever you could say is happening and people are kind of realizing what's going on and
Yeah, I definitely like people are waking up and you know, I agree. I think most people think that he's saved
I mean most people you know that have heard him talk about you know salvation. It seems like he's probably saved I listen to his wife's comments and
You know, she definitely didn't say anything like super weird or anything like that
So I don't think he ever really was like super precise maybe in his wording and language
But you know, if you go door knocking enough, you go soul winning enough, you realize that
tons of people aren't that precise in their language, but they're still saved. You know,
you basically start trying to pin them down and just kind of making clear what they believe. And
they, whenever you give them the right terminology, they're like, yeah, it is faith alone. Yeah,
it is. Once you're saved, you're always saved. And, you know, you, you just say, well, it's great
to meet a fellow Christian and you're like, bye. You know, because there is plenty of people that
Um, just like us or something like that, we don't, we're not Babdis Brighters over here
where we're the only saved people on the planet or something weird, you know, there's
lots of saved people out there.
So, you know, and I think that, uh, you know, it makes, it makes it, you know, a cooler
story that he is saved because look, even if Charlie Kirk wasn't saved, I still think
it's an assassination, it's still a tragedy because he's still being killed for his political
and religious views.
and, you know, it shouldn't happen, we shouldn't just be blowing people away on college campuses,
you know, that's a tragedy, it's horrific, but it is kind of cool that he was giving,
you know, the right responses about eternal life and promoting Christianity and God and faith and
that now lots of people are more interested in the Bible, Christianity, faith, those kind of
topics and seeing someone being a martyr for the faith can embolden them to, you know, be more
Be more aggressive be more courageous with their viewpoints. So
Thanks for your thanks your comments vitally. God bless you. We have lots of callers. So I want to I want to go on
We have another caller David from San Antonio. I think he has a question for us. Hey, David. How's it going?
Hi, thanks for showing it's going good. Hello, Pastor Anderson
My question is, I've had to unfriend a lot of people on my Facebook and I know a lot of people unfriended me and blocked me
because I did do some strong wording on my Facebook story. If you're going to be talking,
Bad about promoting his assassination get off my Facebook or Instagram. I don't need this type of cancer on my Facebook
I know cancer is a very sensitive word to a lot of people
Especially if they have loved ones who have cancer, but how should I approach like people who are poor poor?
But especially family members who are promoting Charlie Kirk death like what would be the biblical perspective of this?
Okay, could you are pastor anything it like are you saying are you saying like they're actually saved and normal that are doing this?
Or are you just saying like anyone?
Like anyone who's like promoting his death like even normal ones that people who are not thought of my foot or just like loony lefty
Like how can I see this from a Christian perspective?
Yeah, he's talking about live he's talking about libtards is what he's talking about
Pastor Shelley and and he's saying that basically liberal people on his friend list he said he had
to unfriend them I would say he got to unfriend them he had the privilege of unfriending them
he actually was able to helpfully clean the trash out of his friend list because honestly
these kind of just oxic weird sick freaks
Here's my advice cut them out of your life. Okay. Yeah, you know, obviously your parents
You're supposed to honor your father and mother. Those are non-negotiable relationships, but all these are you know cousins and
Siblings if they're god-hating fag liberal freak weirdo pervert, you know, just I would just get away from people like that
They don't add any value
They're sick
Turn away from them depart from them like in general like I don't want to be around people like that
I don't have time for people like that and and it's it's it's pretty sick
You know what a lot of people are saying and so I would just say cut them loose and then you know
I want I didn't want to say one thing going back to the statement made by
Charlie Kirk's wife there were people that were criticizing his wife's statement like something was off about it
It seemed a little fishy seemed a little awkward or whatever like things like that
It's really stupid because you know
Nobody really knows how to act in a situation like this and everybody grieves differently and as pastors
You know pastor Shelley and I we dealt with a lot of people
who have lost loved ones and experienced extreme tragedies, death, misfortune, and
condolences and brother rose family as well. Yeah, thank you because that that that way is that's
But here's the thing about that is that everybody grieves differently, you know, and some people are just sobbing and bawling their eyes out and just can't even function.
Other people, like, aren't even shedding a tear, but, you know, and then sometimes it's like a delayed reaction.
They, then a few days later they break down or something.
You'll have people that they want to surround themselves by people and they want the comfort.
They want other people just want to be left alone.
They want to process something.
Everybody's different, and, you know, we shouldn't be judging people who are grieving.
It's like, oh, why is she going public, or why is she on Instagram,
or why is she making this video?
But here's the thing about that is that, like, you know,
that's what her husband's whole life is about.
Like, Bro is a social media influencer,
so maybe she's just trying to, like,
Be public and and say stuff because she's thinking like hey
This is what Charlie wanted and so I want to get like maximum impact out of his death
Maybe she just wants his death to mean something because you know, it's like if somebody dies senselessly
You want it to mean something and like we just talked about how always reaching more people in his death than his life
That could provide some comfort to the widow. So why would she not want to throw another log on that fire?
Don't judge people who are grieving because they don't cry enough or they cry too much or what you know
It's just like just let people grieve the way that they're gonna grieve and everybody handles it differently
And you know some people they like to open cast it some you know, I mean cares
Well, thanks for your thanks your comments. Yeah, I would I would just agree just cut them out of your life
I want nothing to do with people that are celebrating his death
That that's that's insane like that person should just be mocked and ridiculed and nothing to do with so
Thanks for calling in David. We got a lot of the callers. I want to get to him
I had another person message me a comment that I wanted to get your thoughts on but they were saying oh
I wonder if someone in the crowd was like consenting on to
Charlie Kirk's death. That's now going to be the next apostle Paul
And I kind of think that that's an absurd opinion, personally, just because, like,
obviously, we understand that Saul was consenting unto Stephen's death,
and he had a radical transformation.
But here's the thing, the apostle Paul, even though he wasn't saved at that time,
he wasn't, like, this weird leftist liberal.
He, like, actually had a lot of respect for the Bible and for God's word,
and it was actually-
He started disturbing God.
He was blameless concerning the laws with the Bible said.
So like he's not over here just like this weird you know psycho leftist satanist freak that's
just like so excited that Charlie Kirk got blown away and then now he's gonna randomly become a
Christian or something like that. Now again I think that there's probably some people that are
Democrats and stuff that have kind of just fallen into some bad you know mojo that could possibly
The Apostle Paul was not like this just weird, leftist, liberal Democrat that ended up transferring over and becoming saved or something like that.
Yeah.
He's just like a little off.
Obviously, like these super radical, super leftist, way off the deep end people are unlikely candidates for salvation, but it could happen.
Sure.
But here's the thing, do you think that your average Democrat, though,
Think that most of your average Democrats, you know can be saved. They're just you know
They're just following a narrative that that's being brainwashed upon it
It doesn't make it any less sick and perverted and weird what they believe but but at the end of the day, you know
If they get saved, they're not gonna continue. I don't think they're gonna continue believing in this weird
Freakish stuff that the left has you know, you know, even my wife, you know
My wife obviously raised in Europe Europe is super liberal Germany is super liberal and so my wife, you know
Had some left-wing views when when I first met her
But it's like when she got saved the Holy Spirit moved in she starts reading the Bible
I mean those those leftist views just evaporate. Yeah, but I mean even your even your wife being kind of leftist
I don't believe for a second your wife is over there and it happened to be at the Charlie
Kirk rally and saw him get blown away that she would have been celebrating that or thinking
that was awesome or something like that. No, but like her brothers, her brothers would talk crap
about homos and she'd be like, oh, you guys shouldn't do that or something like like when we were dating
our first fight was when I said that homos should be executed according to Leviticus 2013. That was
But she got over it pretty quick and of course, you know.
she's a hundred percent now I mean she was a hundred percent days later but you
know the choice at this point so but I'm just even even I'm just saying that you
know you got to be careful thinking that I agree with you that the Apostle Paul
story is not a good analogy with this Charlie Kirk assassination because
because the Apostle Paul did like
think that he was serving God. And the Bible says in John 16, you know, the time will come
when he that killeth you will think that he doeth God's service. The apostle Paul says,
I did it ignorantly and unbelief. I persecuted the church of God. I was a blasphemer. I was a
persecutor. I was injurious. I obtained mercy because I did it ignorantly and unbelief and so
I do think that it could happen.
I don't think it's an absurd comment.
I think it's absurd.
And I think you think, I do think that people can go from being...
a rabid leftist and get saved.
And if they get saved, they are gonna be radically,
you know, transformed.
Yeah, but I mean like, I'm just thinking like Bill Maher.
So Bill Maher, who's like an extreme leftist weirdo,
he got up and said, hey,
no one should be celebrating Charlie Kirk dying.
Like that's a tragedy.
That's bad.
Yeah, but okay, but think about Manasseh in the Bible.
I mean, Manasseh is like worshiping Satan.
burning his children in the fire to Molek, using enchantment, consulting with familiar spirits,
and he gets saved and becomes a righteous man and cleans up the house of God and does all that stuff.
So I'm just saying, you know, you just got to be careful with that, I think, because I don't,
although I think that the Apostle Paul parallel doesn't quite line up, obviously, because yeah.
Paul was not, you know, promoting trainees or something. He was actually like this really strict guy
He's actually like this really strict Pharisee like living this really I mean maybe maybe like there's a Catholic out there
Maybe maybe we expand to this like maybe there's like a Catholic out there
That's like really anti Zionist and then he's kind of like happy that Charlie died just because of that agenda
But then he ends up getting saved, and then becomes like really.
But here's the thing, it never even said, it never even said,
you know, necessarily in the comment that you mentioned,
you know, celebrating his death, it was more like consenting to his death.
Like somebody think like, yeah, he got what he deserved.
You could, I'm sure you'll admit, Pastor Shelley,
that somebody could just think like, oh yeah, that guy's a racist,
homophobe, bigot, and he got what he deserved.
Then that person later gets saved through soul winning.
Obviously, you know, yeah, that could happen.
I mean, I guess I'm just thinking about celebrating it like, man, when we knock doors and when
we go soul winning and when we evangelize, right?
Yeah.
Out of all this, are we only getting conservatives saved?
I would say we're probably getting more liberals saved than conservatives because we're, we're
constantly getting, uh, well, honestly, we get a lot of people saved and they're Democrat
voters.
Yeah, well we get tons of black people saved, we get tons of Hispanics saved, we get tons
of Catholics saved, we get tons of liberals saved.
I've knocked on people's door and they had like the pride flag, you know, they weren't
sodomites themselves but they're promoting that and they still got saved.
Well someone put in the comments so brother Russell put in the comments
But the apostle paul would have wanted facts to be stoned even in his unsafe condition. That's true on both sides of salvation
So I get that I get that it's not a parallel but but at the same time
If we're real pastor shelly we
As pastors, as soul winners,
we are constantly reaching libtards with the gospel
and getting them saved and they're not libtards anymore.
I know people, I'm not gonna name any names,
but I have people in my personal life
and friends and relatives that were very,
and I'm not talking about my wife, of course,
but other people that were just really liberal Democrats
and stuff, you know, once they get saved
and then they just totally,
Now they're just hardcore.
Well, maybe it is absurd though,
but doesn't mean it's impossible
because like it's almost like the Bible's saying
what happened with the Apostle Paul was absurd.
Like it was kind of like crazy to think
this guy was consenting unto Stephen's death
and then he turns out to be the Apostle Paul.
It was just kind of like a miracle radical thing
that happened, but.
But here's the thing.
I don't think there's the evidence.
I just think that it's just a weird comment personally,
but whatever.
I don't think there's any evidence.
You don't care for the comment, I get it,
You know, I don't think there's any evidence that, you know, uh, the apostle Paul was just
kind of ghoulishly dancing on Steven's grave.
You know, he's just, he's holding their coats.
He's consenting to it, but he's not like, he's not like chanting all that.
He's not like on Tik Tok, you know, the apostle, but
He's not he's not taking his his his middle school kids and just making him watch the death over and over
Screaming fascist or whatever. Yeah, Canadian teacher two minute the two minutes
Life imitating art
But no, I look
I do think that there are a ton of people on the fence
that are coming over to conservatism right now,
but I think that even the most wildest-eyed liberal,
if they're not a reprobate,
if they're not a sodomite or something,
I mean, why wouldn't we be able to knock their door pop
potentially or witness to them at work or school
or whatever?
Think if you think about it, we're getting liberals saved constantly, you know, and and you know what that's why we're doing more
Like to help America than if we were like campaigning for a politician or something, you know what I mean? Yeah
I think by soul winning we're like turning people more
Conservative because by the time we get them saved and the Holy Spirit moves in they start reading the Bible a little bit going to church
Let's need a preaching
They're not going to have these weird, sick, twisted, left-wing, Democrat, death, cult,
baby murdering, fag-loving, tranny-pushing, commie, you know, whatever views anymore,
are they?
You're just channeling Ben again and I love it.
Someone said when they saw your little party, they reminded them of the Dancing Israelis
on September 11th.
Which party is that?
We've got some more callers. We've got a lot of callers
Let's see if we can pull up another one. We've got Christian from West Virginia. Hey Christian. How's it going?
He's doing well. How are you all doing doing great?
All right, first of all, I'd like to thank both of you for the work that you do
I can speak for myself. You all have really changed my life through
Hundreds of hours of y'all's preaching. I'm sure there's probably thousands and
Millions of people that could say the same but
You guys kind of already answered my first question about Israel having something to do with it
I did kind of see where he was saying that Jews have to start answering some questions
He wasn't like the NIFB stance quite yet. You know that they're a false
Nation, but I kind of wanted to ask a second question that do you really think that?
The Antichrist could quote unquote save us from all this radical garbage that's been
pushed down our throats all these years from the left and just homosexuals and you know
just all the weird stuff because I listened to one of your revelation series.
I think it was Pastor Shelley I listened to it about a year ago or so.
And I think you mentioned something like that.
Yeah, I mean, I would say save is kind of maybe,
I don't know if that's the right word entirely,
but I understand what you're saying.
Yeah, I like it.
You know, the Bible says that the saved,
like the Antichrist is going to be so believable
that even the saved would potentially believe in him.
So, you know, just kind of it were possible. Yeah, if it were possible.
So, so I kind of thought like maybe it's possible because like with Hitler,
he definitely cleaned up some things when he came to power.
Just some of the like more radical like tranny stuff.
Like they say that there was some really weird, tranny, creepy things going on.
Yeah, and the book burns, too. Got rid of.
So, I think it's reasonable to think it's possible that whatever leader comes to power.
Kind of just smashes the more extreme version of the left and kind of wins a lot of people over with that and and honestly like
Even us we would kind of be like well, I mean, I'm not like mad about that or whatever plus
I think he's gonna fight Islam, which you know as Bible believers and Christians we don't like Islam
So like in some ways I think from a carnal perspective like the antichrist is gonna do things that you could kind of get on
Board with the problem is that he's the man of sin
He's the son of perdition and he's gonna still be super ungodly super wicked
He's gonna have a bad agenda in general and ultimately the the big sin that he does is he
He clears himself God and at that point that kind of high blasphemy. There's no way any
Bible-believing Christian could ever support him or get behind him. It's possible that maybe he's
not going to do anything we like. Maybe he just completely bad cover to cover. I just think that
one verse though that kind of kind of insinuates that if it was possible even we would kind of like
like the guy or believe in him or, you know, think positive things about him
insinuates that there could be some things to get on board with currently.
You're saying there must be something likable about him. We don't know what it is,
but there's going to be something likable that he's going to trick people with.
So I don't know what Pastor Anderson's opinion is on that, but that's kind of clearing up that opinion that I had.
Yeah, I've just I've got a lot of friends that are like orthodox
and
Some family members that are kind of
Leaning Pentecostal
I don't really know if they're saved and I just think like if it was in the next
Few years or decade or something
It's kind of a scary thought to see all my family members and friends
Just start worshiping a guy that the Holy Spirit tells me is the Antichrist, you know
So I could just he's got to get him saved. I think it's impossible. Yeah
Absolutely. Yeah, then it's impossible for them to believe in the antichrist. So there you go. We're false
Thanks so much for your call in Christian. God bless you. We got another caller from West Virginia
Nathaniel
How's it going Nathaniel?
Good. How are you doing great?
Yeah, so I just had two short questions for you first off in second Kings
223, I know y'all are familiar with it when it talks about the she bears coming out of the woods
You know when the little children are making fun of a lice's bald head
When the King James uses that when the King James uses the word little children. Is it actually talking about like?
Children children or is it talking about like young adults? I
Mean I would say it's definitely not young adults
you know, I mean, it's if it says children, it's children, you know, I mean, we, you know,
I suppose I could do a deep dive, you know, into the Hebrew and try to like, you know,
put some kind of, you know, an age range that's plausible or something.
But it's certainly, you know, it's certainly not going to be young adults.
Maybe you could make an argument for teenagers or young adolescents.
But what you have to understand is that, you know, we've seen all kinds of things in the
11, 12, 13, 14 year olds have committed all manner
of atrocities and done super wicked things.
I mean, you hear about these like gang rapes
that perpetrated by 12, 13, 14 year olds and stuff.
So I mean, you know, kids can be pretty evil and pretty sick.
And I'm not saying that these kids were necessarily
super evil or super sick or anything,
but whatever they were, they angered the Lord.
God wanted to make an example out of them.
They got tore up. I don't know if they necessarily all died.
It just says that the she bear tear 40 and 2 children of them, so...
I'm not sure that that means that they're all dead.
You know, maybe some or all of them are dead, you know.
So there's some things that are ambiguous about the passage,
but I think that saying that they're young adults
is out of the question.
You know, if it says children,
that word is not that flexible.
And so, you know, and again, we could do some kind of a,
you know, we could do a Hebrew deep dive and everything,
but it's not really gonna yield anything definitive
any more than the English word children.
But we're definitely talking about teens at the oldest
Teens at the oldest, but it could you know if I had to guess if you want my opinion
You know to guess an agent and that's all it really is
Little children, you know to me is gonna be I don't think they'd be older than like 14
I mean in my opinion if they're little children, then that would imply like not fully grown
So, you know fully grown for a for a male is probably 19
18 19 fully grown and maybe for a female
It's it's more like what 14 or 15 as far as reaching full height
So if I had to guess, you know, I'd say that they're not fully grown
They're children and if I had to guess I'd say 11 12 13 14 would was what I would picture
Yeah, I've purchased a sermon at the beginning of this year called bad kids
And I actually just kind of started with like around 20 22 year olds or something like that in the box
because the Bible gives ages for different people being bad and I just kind of worked my way down and
I really kind of ended with this story being kind of like the youngest age group that we see of like bad kids and just kind of like
Doing evil things, but you have
people at age 12 and some other ages that are mentioned by specific name, like 12 years old,
being bad, already at that age.
So in the Bible. Yeah in the Bible. So I'm saying like I think that this story could be you know
Somewhere between 7 and 11 potentially like I don't I don't know
I'm just throwing out numbers, but I'm saying like based on the description of little children comparing it with other passages
You know, it's reasonable that these kids could have been actually what we think of as like grade school children
Well, and let's not let's not forget that God did flood the entire planet
Right, so I'm pretty sure that wiped out all ages
So, you know when God's wrath is poured out people get smoked at a lot of different ages
Unfortunately, and so you have the entire
You have the entire planet being flooded in genesis that's killing every age and then in the book of revelation
When you have these plagues being poured out upon the earth just just killing literally billions of people
first born of every child dies in the plagues of egypt you have
The children being slain by hered. I mean you have every age. So why sanitize? Why sanitize the story?
You know, I would say just come to grips with what the text actually says and instead of trying to sanitize. That's my opinion
Yeah, what was your second follow-up question?
Okay, and then my second question was I don't know if either of you all saw this but um
On info wars a couple, you know months ago, greg lock actually called out
pastor anderson. He's like they uh,
Owen shroyer had asked if he would debate anybody who is against
Zionism and he's like oh like Pastor Anderson and I was wondering if there's a possibility
That we may see Greg lot get debated by either, you know, Pastor Anderson or you pastor Shelley in the near future
Well, number one, I don't I don't do debates. I've never done debates. I'm not into doing debates
I don't want to do debates and number two. I have no respect for Greg Locke like like
He's not in the same league as me, you know, I'm basically, and I'm not saying this to be prideful because
It's really not prideful to say
That I'm classier than Greg Locke because Greg Locke is just such scum
That like that doesn't really say
It's not even a prideful statement because because virtually everyone is classier than this dirty
Ski-V
Lying piece of crap Greg lock. I mean Greg lock is a guy who is a pastor supposedly a man of God
who basically
discarded his wife and and committed adultery with the church secretary. I mean
it's like a cliche except in the olden days when the pastor used to run off with
the secretary you know he's not the pastor anymore but now I guess in our
culture we just celebrate that so this this evil piece of crap that discards
his wife and runs off with the church secretary like you know what I've been
married for 25 years
And so it's like, no, we're not in the same league, buddy.
I'm actually a real pastor who actually has integrity
and has the personal life to back up.
What I'm preaching. Okay, and not only that Greg and a lot of people probably don't realize this Greg Locke started out as an
Independent fundamental King James soul-winning Baptist preacher like a lot of people don't realize that that literally
Greg Locke came and preached at
Churches that we sometimes would visit and attend like pastor. He meant as an I we actually knew about Greg Locke when we were
literally teenagers, and I remember having a conversation with Pastor Jimenez back then when he was like 17, and I was like 21, and we were just talking about how Greg Locke's preaching just sucked and was boring.
But the reason we were even talking about it is because we literally went to a conference where Greg Locke preached at that conference. And so, and we're like downloading sermons from conferences where Greg Locke was preaching because he was literally in our circle.
as an independent fundamental Baptist.
Fast forward, the guy is not King James, not a Baptist.
He's totally changed what he believes about salvation,
proving that he was never saved in the first place.
Because the Bible says,
they went out from us, but they were not all of us.
For if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us.
But they went out, they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
and then he became this weird like exorcist where he's like performing all these exorcisms.
He made a whole documentary about all these wild exorcisms.
Now he's just a full-blown Charismaniac holy roller just rolling in the aisles.
Praised whatever even at you know, it's just like this guy's personal life is trash his doctrine is trash
He just preaches things he ought not for filthy lucre's sake because now he's trying to get in with the types of like you know
faith healer
kind of fraud, televangelist like Kenneth Copeland and that white dude with the dreadlocks and like those kind of types, you know, that he's trying to be like this Charismaniac big name guy.
The guy has, I don't even know why Infowars would even have that worthless piece of crap on and I don't know why anyone would listen to this boring little Republican talking point, boring vanilla mouthpiece.
of the Republican party who has no integrity in his personal life and it preaches damnable heresy
has just changed his doctrine and flip-flopped on everything and he's sucks and he's trash and
other than that I like him. I'm not sure if you uh answered that long enough but maybe we should go
to our screen, give them my screen here for just a second um would you debate Greg Locke
A simple no would have sufficed.
I'm just kidding.
You can go back to us on the screen.
Like, here's the thing.
If I were going to debate, debate someone.
It wouldn't be Greg Locke, it'd be someone who had an ounce of decency, a modicum of gravitas,
someone that I could respect like enough to put in a thimble the amount of respect that I have for
them, but I don't do debates anyway. For the stars to align to get Pastor Anderson to do a
Um, I don't know. I, I, it's not that I disagree with anything Pastor Anderson said.
I don't want to platform Greg Locke. Yeah. Because the guy.
Well, I don't think that you would be platforming him entirely because
he does have a pretty big platform already, but you know, let me tell you how he got his platform.
Okay. He basically just whatever the Republican talking heads are saying that day,
he just comes on and says just exactly what the mainstream Republican view is.
But then he says it like it's all edgy.
He's like, I don't care if this offends you.
I don't care what you think.
I don't care what any of you think.
There are two genders.
You know, it'll just be like some super vanilla take.
But he acts like it's just the coolest, most wildest take ever.
I mean, the thing that actually sent his Facebook page
into the stratosphere was like Tranny's
using the bathroom at Target.
That was like his big break.
And it's just like, oh, wow.
And I'm just thinking like, you know,
Well, the nice thing about all the trannies being in the ladies room at Target is that
I never have to see them in the men's room.
People want to know in a hypothetical throwdown though would you have would you give him as angry of a stare as you did?
Hovind or not in our car in that because here's the thing like I'm disgusted by Hovind and have no respect for
Hovind either, but like Greg Locke is so much worse than Ken Hovind like like
It's like a whole nother level like you just go red eye
He would just be red eye and just like just being over to Greg Locke aren't even in the same category because like
Great lock is so much sleazier than Ken Ovid like that. I mean they're they're both I don't respect either of them
But like I I respect I I appreciate that I were really far away from the Charlie Kirk assassination right now
I I think I would consider a debate with Greg Locke, but I don't know that's gonna ever happen
I know that past trainer since already given us the longest. No, we've ever heard but I
Appreciated it. So thanks. So thanks so much for calling in. We got some more callers in here
We've got Don from Texas. How's it going, Don?
Hey, guys. Hey, pastors. I'm Patrick Anderson. Appreciate you guys greatly. Thanks for your
time.
This is really though around the, um, of course, Charlie Kirk assassination and I, I feel like so many people and so many influencers, pastors, leaders, whoever it might be, media personalities.
And maybe it's just easy for me to say cause I'm anonymous, but everyone just beats around the bush. It dismisses and excuses, you know, is Israel in one way or another.
You know you guys you talk about you know 9-11 and then of course it's obvious there and and of course I saw you see pastor
You know breaking down the math on the Holocaust and knowing knowing what that is and yet
You know and then we have this Charlie Kirk assassination with the Jerusalem post being the first to you know bring that to light
Um, and then Netanyahu, you know, almost immediately before anyone else at least, um, you know
Is is sexually claiming credit taking credit for it and written in some ways boasting about it by posting
About his death. Okay. Come on, man
You actually have any real evidence or any meat on the bone because honestly like okay, well, here's a smoking gun
The tariff on the horse's mouth then so the next post Benjamin not Netanyahu
Charlie Kirk was murdered for speaking truth and defending freedom. So you just don't have to take my word
Oh, I guess it's real killed Charlie Kirk. That's not evidence. Give us real evidence
You have to eat Charlie Kirk was murdered. He just just break that down. Just listen to what he's saying there
Hold on a second. How is Netanyahu saying Charlie Kirk was murdered proof that Israel had something to do with it? That's absurd
Well, he's speaking definitively about what happened right you wouldn't just okay pastor if somebody when they say, you know
I would say, you know, I look everybody watched him live
Hold on a second. Everybody saw the guy get shot in the neck live and fall over and then it's like guy got murdered
Wow, that's not definitive of anything
Everybody who saw but no, but he says for speaking truth
But who knows why how who knows for certain why he got murdered?
Apparently Benjamin Netanyahu does because he says Charlie was murdered for speaking truth and defending freedom
That's my point. Oh, okay, so then let's let's can I move on to so?
The next is that he goes on tour on a media tour for the next 48 hours 72 hours and goes from every show he can and I don't you don't have to be a detective or somebody who even you know knows you know anything about like you know facial or expressions or anything
I mean, in my God, I mean, this is called discernment.
You know, it's like it's crystal clear.
It's I mean, he's literally OK.
He chockles this guy off because it's boring.
I listen to somebody.
Yeah, I understand.
But here's the thing, I don't mind letting him talk a little bit.
And we don't need we don't we don't need to let him talk anymore.
But I'm just saying, like, I don't mind letting him say these things
because I'm seeing this a lot online.
and I think it's important that he gave no he gave nothing of substance
it was just this boring word salad of just it's just obvious man and you guys are stupid because
you don't get it and I mean how can you see the truth you're doing the math about the yeah I did
the math on the Holocaust because there was actually math to do there were actually facts there was
actually evidence acting like we're stupid because it's so obvious man it's just so clear I mean
If I say Charlie Kirk was murder for speaking truth, I guess I'm responsible.
It's stupid and I'm sorry, but it just irritates me when people are going to come on here and
talk down to us like we're stupid when they have literally not one ounce of evidence and
we told the guy, where's the evidence, where's the meat on the bone, he was given a few chances
and all he could do is just blah, blah, blah.
I'm sorry, but not impressed.
Well, and again, I think that it goes to a point that you bring up a lot about some people kind of have a Jew hammer
And it's just like everything is just Israel's fault no matter what and you know when we talk about 9-11
It's like we have actual dancing Israelis that capture the event, the FBI picks them up
the FBI interviews them, the FBI puts out a release that says these people had prior
knowledge of these particular events happening. These same individuals go back to Israel or
on TV talking about how they were told to go over there and film this particular event.
Like this is something we're talking about that's real, that happened, that we have evidence for,
and we can see some connections to some Israeli intelligence there. When we talk about the Holocaust,
you know, when you're video, you're sitting here bringing up all kinds of facts,
different, you know, news articles. I was showing you actual literal physical
artifacts, physical evidence, coins. I was showing photographs. I was doing math. I was
showing these things. And everything, I'm not even saying that Israel had nothing to do with
Charlie Kirk's death. Maybe Israel did have something to do with it.
But what I'm saying is that there's no evidence and it's stupid for people to just dogmatically claim something with no evidence and then act like we're dumb for not seeing it and then take God's name in vain.
Oh my god, why can't you see it? Don't take God's name in vain, bro
Okay, and and here's the thing is no
We don't see it because you're not showing us anything if you show us some actual real evidence
Then we'll consider it and like I said
Maybe Israel had something to do with it
But right now there's zero evidence of that and it's just silly
Because what happens is if people are just blaming stuff on Israel with no evidence
Then when we actually say bad stuff about Israel that we actually have evidence for
people disregarded because they just it's like you cry wolf if you cry wolf and claim oh everything's
israel everything's israel everything's israel then when something really is real nobody's
gonna listen to you yeah because they just think oh you just blame everything on israel
and it kind of just waters down the whole anti-israel spiel you know because it's like
I'll talk about that all day long and you know what you're not going to find any pastor in America who's more anti-Israel than I am
Okay, I'm 100% anti-Israel
But but I'm not gonna sit here and just say well
We know for a fact because Benjamin Netanyahu said Charlie Kirk was murdered for speaking truth
You know five minutes after Donald Trump tweeted about it or two or two minutes after or whatever, you know, whatever
Yeah, it's silly and these kind of silly arguments they just they take away from the conspiracies that actually are real
When you just make these definitive statements with no evidence
A ton of people were putting out press releases about this, you know,
shortly after it happened, you know, with building seven, the Solomon Tower,
I think there was a news agency, a bra that actually said that it had fallen
before it did. So that was interesting.
Yeah. There's, there's, there's the woman from the BBC, and she's saying
that the seven, the building seven has come down and you can literally
see building seven behind her while she's saying it.
And with the timestamps, we know that it didn't line up.
It was like 20 minutes prior or something like that.
So that's suspicious, obviously.
But in Jude, the Bible talks about Michael the archangel
when contending with the devil,
he's he's durst not bring against him
a railing accusation.
So even the devil himself should be given the respect
not to just rail on the devil.
And so like with Israel, if the devil you shouldn't rail on,
then we shouldn't rail on Israel,
because there's enough against Israel
that we don't need like these wild-eyed, spooky things
like, well, Netanyahu tweeted 20 minutes afterwards
that he's dead, so Case Close, Massad did it.
Like, I think, you know,
you're not gonna win a lot of people over.
with that particular argument and there's plenty of things that are viable
and there's plenty of other conspiracy theories that have hard evidence. It's super irritating.
It's super irritating when you're just you're totally anti Israel you're preaching sermons
You're actually getting up and using the Bible and preaching real sermons against Israel and actually talking about real facts and
Preaching real sermons, and then you get these bozos who are just you're just never
Anti-Israel enough for them because they just want you to only talk about Israel 24 7 and every single thing is Israel
It's just Israel honestly
the most immature people in the world are these one issue people that just obsess over one thing.
And it's not always Israel. Some people are just only obsessed with Islam,
only obsessed with the Jews, only obsessed with, you know, whatever. And it's just
super immature and irritating. And then it's like, they act like we're stupid. It's like,
Because we are actually expecting evidence before we're gonna jump on some wild bandwagon
It's just it to me
You know you go on X and you're anti-Israel and then you have people in the comments saying you're a Jew and I'm just like what?
Because you don't accept like one of their hundred things that they want to pin out yeah, no, I mean I've had people on it
Yeah, when I say I believe the King James Bible is the word of God they'll say no no the Bible is a Jewish
Conspiracy you must be like a Jewish plant now. So it's like I'm not believing the King James Bible is the word of God
I'm somehow now pro-Jew when it's like the King James Bible is the most anti-Jew book on the planet
I mean, there's not really a it's the same thing with with King James people like you'll get up
Like we'll get up and put in our statement of faith
We believe that the King James Bible is the word of God without error
Like that's a pretty strong statement on the King James right the King James is the word of God without error and
Then you'll literally have people all over the internet saying that I'm not King James enough
Right because they are just even more radically because because they're like
Claiming that the original Greek is garbage or something. They just have these absurd
Over-the-top views and then they're gonna act like we're not we're not the real King James only is because they're just taking it to some
absurd bizarre extreme
Right, so it's like this with everything, you know, we're not anti-Muslim enough
We're not anti-Juneuf because if you just don't obsess and say that everything is the Catholic Church
There are people that just say no no no everything is the Catholic Church and the black pope and blah blah blah
And then and then these people will literally claim that I'm a Jesuit even though I have like
30 I've 30 just like face-ripping sermons against Catholicism or something just absolutely just
Torching Catholicism. They're like you're secretly a Catholic because you just don't blame everything on the you know
I guess if we don't think that the Catholic Church and the Black Pope killed Charlie Kirk
Then I guess we're pro-Catholic
Brian Denlinger accuse you of being like a Jesuit Mormon pipe
Oregon play or something weird. Yeah, I've been accused of being a Jesuit, a Mormon, a Jew.
And then if you don't believe the earth is flat, they say you secretly work for NASA.
Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, not a stinking flat earth or something.
I mean, you do have a lot of degrees, so, you know, maybe you have a lot of jobs too.
There are just so many paychecks coming in from all these different agencies that are
funding me.
Yeah.
But the point is that, you know, look, here's what we know.
We know that the guy's a faggot if, you know, if this guy did it, which it seems like he
did.
The guy's a faggot and the guy's a libtard.
Okay.
Now here's the thing.
Is Israel involved?
All it is is just guessing and speculation.
Yeah.
And this guy was given a chance to give evidence
and the evidence he gave was a joke.
Maybe there's somebody out there that has better evidence
or maybe his third point was really just gonna rock our world
and we just cut him off too quick.
Yeah, but it's kind of like that temple debate
when you said, all right,
pass them a mercury, give us your number one evidence.
And he like lost us on point one. We didn't even know what he was talking about the east gate in this Jeremiah thing
We're just like wow if that's your best evidence. It's already over
It's like I just have no interest in sitting here listening to this guy just act like we're dumb
Because we don't think Netanyahu tweeting
Charlie Kirk was murdered for speaking truth
Automatically means that Netanyahu is the one who killed him. I mean yeah, he gave the order
He was on the phone with the shooter
Like Netanyahu says, Charlie Kirk was murdered for speaking truth.
And we're supposed to believe that that's Netanyahu confessing Charlie Kirk was murdered for speaking truth, and I'm the one who did it.
Well, I mean like I'm not I'm not even convinced that Israel honestly would even want Charlie Kirk dad because it seemed like he was kind of
Keeping a lot of the boomers and a lot of the Republicans pro Israel when the tide has been turning like he was one of the one like
Keeping the flood waters in a little bit like I'm not even entirely sure that Israel would want it's not I'm sorry
You know, I'm sorry, but Charlie Kirk's like tiny little
Like micro criticisms of Israel
I'm sorry, man. That didn't get him killed by Massad in my opinion because I've seen much more of him being like super pro Israel. The guys just like super pro Israel supporting Israel. Why do you think he's buddies with Ben Shapiro and stuff? So it's like it's the whole thing is far fetched without evidence.
Rose supporting a bunch of people in government that are all pro-israel
And I'm not saying that makes Charlie Kirk a horrible person because a lot of good Christians are mixed up on Israel
And they get it wrong and they've they felt they fell for the propaganda
I'm not I'm not I'm not saying that that makes Charlie Kirk terrible
But let's not just rewrite history that Charlie Kirk was just this anti Israel guy who got killed by Israel for speaking truth about Israel
Because I'm sorry, but the clips where he's supposedly questioning Israel and stuff
are very weak and especially like look let's just get this out there this I think it's an
important point that's worth talking about you have this side-by-side with Charlie Kirk and
Ben Shapiro and Ben Shapiro kind of raises eyebrows when he says you know well what if
and he kind of like questions Israel in my opinion watching that clip in context
Charlie Kirk's not even being negative toward Israel
He's literally giving like a devil's advocate saying like what would you say to people who made these anti-Israel arguments?
He's not even espousing those arguments
And then people will take that out of context to prove that Charlie Kirk was actually against Israel in the broader context
He was promoting Israel on
And on and on promoting promoting promoting Israel and then he's just like well
What do you say to people who make this argument against Israel?
It's like, don't we do that all the time?
Like we play the devil's advocate and like ass thing.
People take us out of context all the time.
Let's just be honest, right?
I haven't seen a smoking gun of Charlie Kirk
just waking up on Israel and just he's ready
to turn on Israel and stuff.
It's me and I'm sorry, I just get irritated
by conspiracy theories that have no evidence.
It's just kind of like.
I think a lot of people were interested in that narrative.
I myself was kind of curious
like how much validity there is there.
But I don't wanna just start pulling the trigger
when we don't even have,
we don't even have like A evidence.
Yeah.
To me, I don't even think we have A evidence yet.
Let alone.
Hey, we're all curious.
We're all curious, but if it doesn't pan out,
it doesn't pan out, like.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, we would all we would all maybe want it to be that way or think it's interesting if it's that way there's nothing stopping you or me from blaming them.
Like if there's an ample evidence, we'll go ahead and say it all day long and preach it twice on Sunday, but it's just like or I felt like the caller was implying.
that we're either too cowardly to say it,
which makes no sense because we're ripping on Israel
like three times a week, practically, sometimes.
Or that we're just too dumb or something.
It's like, no, it's just that there's no meat on the bone.
Where's the beef?
You know, it's just that simple.
Maybe I was too hard on the...
We can move on.
But whenever you bring me on here, I'm too hard on people.
I was too hard on Ken Hovind, remember?
Actually, I regret nothing.
Well, I I don't put a leash on you. So there we go. I'm not saying that the caller isn't a great guy
Yeah, saying he irritated me on this particular point because you know, it
People need to grow past this one-dimensional thinking
We got out of their mind Satan is a seven-headed beast and
It's not just all the Jews. Okay
We've got lots of callers in here.
I don't know if I'm gonna get all of them.
Some Dylan from San Antonio is gonna ask me
about starting a Newstead Fest church in Texas.
Not anytime soon.
Sorry to disappoint you.
Fernando in California was asking about you doing
a debate with Jay Dyer.
Pretty much already made it clear
he's not gonna do a debate so.
I don't do debates, I don't even know who that is.
He's like a Catholic, I think, apologist.
Nick from LA wants to ask about local politics.
Nick from LA. How's it going, Nick?
Hey, not too bad. Good evening, Pastors. I just wanted to apologize for the previous
juice beer seat card. Not all anti-Semites are like that. Some of us have some tact and discernment.
What's the question?
Well, I'm something of an anti-Semite myself.
Yeah, I just got I got I just got thinking pastures my local thought of my councilman
Was outed for cheering on
Charlie Kirk Kirk's assassination. So I was thinking about Christians involvement in politics. So of course the most important driver
Of change would be through church and evangelism
but my question for both of you do you think that Christians should just
totally disengage from the American democratic system?
Or should Christians try to leverage their numbers and influence
through means of like voting, running for elected office,
seeking positions of power to affect some institutional change?
I mean, I would say both
because I think that Christians like us
that actually like know how to do effective soul winning
and actually can like preach effective doctrine
that other people are afraid to preach or don't understand.
You know, I think that we should focus on the things
that only we can do, you know?
So like, I'd rather see like liberal denominations
that don't know the Bible that well,
aren't even like on a King James
and are just kind of like,
maybe even wrong on the gospel or something,
but they still like believe in the traditional values.
of the bible you know maybe they could spend their lives like doing republican stuff and and
and you know promoting political stuff because because frankly like they're not necessarily
effective at the preaching and soul winning anyway so you know they might as well put their effort
into politics and make the country better for us to live in but i feel like our
Our talents are better used on the spiritual stuff, you know, because we're we're trying to be like kind of a spiritual special forces over here.
So we should probably like leave that stuff to the normies and then we should focus on like biblical preaching and soul winning.
I don't know if that makes sense, but.
Kind of both.
Yeah, I agree with that too.
And I mean, when it comes to local politics,
I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with voting
or showing up for a particular political event or something.
I do think that like if you're abandoning
your Christian obligations to involve yourself in politics,
that that's probably not the right move.
Like we should still make sure we're going to church,
reading our Bible, going soul winning,
those things are the priority.
But I would love for Christians to be in politics because I don't want to be run by secular weirdos and freaks and whatever.
So I would love for some saved people that have an actual passion or desire to be in politics to do so.
I think, you know, we should elevate the spiritual and make it clear that that's the most important.
I think being a pastor is more important than any political office.
I think that, you know, the church is a more important institution than any of our government institutions.
God fearing save Christians get into that battle getting that fight and try to at least you know
Even if we can't turn the tide completely even if we can't make America back to what it was at least just kind of like holding off evil
Or making some positive changes, but I mean we have had some positive changes
I just think in general though politics is kind of downstream
culture and downstream of the church. And so without the church leading the front
and without preachers saying the hard stuff, you know, the politicians and
cultures never gonna say it. You know, we need the Sodomite deception, we need
Pastor Anderson to get on his pulpit and scream and yell that fags are never
welcome in the church, just so the normies can even just say something mild.
And you know, I think that in some cases people don't realize like not
everybody's gonna come our way, not always gonna be like as extreme or as
But what we do is we swing the pendulum back to normalcy
by doing the things that we do, by being a little bit more
extreme and going out there and putting ourselves out there.
So we need both.
And I'm pro-Christians making a difference in any way
that they can.
I don't think politics is the most important,
but I would never condemn a Christian for trying
to make a positive change in our government.
I don't think that our churches or our type of preaching
is necessarily for everybody.
And, you know, I'm glad that there are all kinds of Baptist churches out there and all
kinds of fundamental Baptist churches and evangelical churches out there because, you
know, some of them...
Are you saying you can't bring grandma to the fire breathing?
No, no, no grandma's coming to the fire breathing whether she's saved or not
But but the but the point is that I do think that these other churches other styles of churches need to exist
I'm not talking about false prophets. I'm talking about saved born-again
evangelical Christians other types of Baptist churches where maybe they're not as fiery or they're not as you know
Hellfire and damnation as we are
you know the bible says of some have compassion making a difference others save with fear
pulling them out of the fire and so i feel like you know i understand why the more water
downturn just kind of need to exist to reach certain people that we won't reach that are
you know, brash we maybe are, but at the same time, we have to exist too.
We have a function as well, because there are a lot of people who've said, you know,
that only our hard preaching could have reached them, and that they needed the kind of barn
storming, hell-raising kind of preaching in order to get through to them.
And so I think that God uses different kinds of people to reach different kinds of people.
And so I feel like the liberals though, they like, when I say liberal, like, I don't mean liberal.
I mean, like the more watered down Baptist, it's like they don't, they don't see why we need to exist,
even though I see why they need to exist. That like, that, you know,
You know, we want look we want we want pansies to get saved too
You know what I mean and the the little soft people they need a church to go to too and we want them saved
And we want them to have a place and God loves I think here thing
I think we should still bring them into our circles and I want to bring this next color on
Thanks so much Nick from LA for your your comments. We have another person that wanted to kind of ask us this question
Chris from Florida, I want to bring them on but I want to say like I think you should we should all get them to try us
It's just maybe they just kind of bounce, they bounce to the other side. So, well, you see,
I would never, I would never say like, oh, I'm not even going to try to talk to you,
but I'm not even going to share this sermon. Oh, this sermon clips too hot for them. No, no, no.
Hey, I'm going to, I'm going to say, Hey, open, open up, buddy. And I'm going to be spooning,
you know, the hard preaching into every mouth that I can. But, but the thing is though,
is that I'm just saying, just, I understand the reality that not everybody's going to respond to
You know, I don't I don't buy into this attitude of like, well, hey, you know, I don't want to bring a visitor to Faithful Word because, you know, Pastor Anderson is going to get up and rip on faggots and they're not going to be able to handle it or something.
You know, I think people should bring whatever visitor because people can handle more than you think a lot of time.
You know what I mean?
But what about all the little disgruntled washups from Faithful Word?
they have to have somewhere to go to, God still loves them, they could still be used by God,
they could still win souls and do things for God, even if we're too much for them.
I'm not saying don't, hey, we should share the clips with everybody, share the preaching with
everybody, and here's the thing, even if people don't come all our way, it's like you just spelled
out, even if people don't come all the way to us, if we say something that's like a truth bomb,
it can at least like swing the pendulum like,
like people come half our way and be like,
well, Pastor Anderson is maybe a little wild with that,
but he does have a point.
So I'm going to kind of come out of the way.
And then, you know, for me, that's a mission accomplished.
Right.
If we can get people halfway to where we're at,
we've still done something.
So I want to make sure we get this caller.
Chris from Florida, I wanted to ask you,
how's it going in your question?
Hey, Chris, how's it going?
You're doing great.
How are you doing?
Great.
I feel like you had a question for us as kind of in the vein of what we've been talking
about.
Yeah, you did kind of touch on it there.
So Pastor Anderson's actually talked a few sermons recently about like having a left
And, I mean, we can all agree that Pastor Anderson, sometimes, that's hardball preaching,
you know?
And somebody coming from the left, like you said, hearing the word faggot could be a turnoff
or something like that.
But is there a way we would advise softballing to get them to the point where they are able
to receive hard preaching?
No, because here's what I think, I think that a lot of people, because I talk to people
constantly, you know, because I travel across the country and talk to people and they kind
of tell me how they found out about us and how they got saved and how they got in church.
And so I hear a lot of these testimonies and a lot of people say, we'll say like, man,
when I first heard your preaching, I was offended, it kind of blew me out of the water, but usually
they just warm up to it.
And here's the thing.
I'm not the reason I'm not going to tone down the message is number one because I'm right and because what I'm saying is right and the Bible uses that kind of like harsh and strong rhetoric at times when it's appropriate.
And so I'm going to keep using it. I'm not going to stop because it's right and it's biblical number one. Okay.
But number two, for every person who's like turned off and offended by it, there's another person where that's like what gets them in the door.
to reach more people I wouldn't be reaching necessarily more people I'd just be reaching
different people I'd be reaching more softer people and I'd be losing the the bad asses
you know yeah I wasn't trying to say for you to soft for you to soften your pitch
but I was saying is there somewhere where I could like that is more softball that could bring them in
And then we have totally I okay, I see I see what you're saying and first of all
Let me be clear to there's a difference between how I preach behind the pulpit and how I interact with say like a left-wing liberal
That I'm sitting next to on an airplane and talking about politics with I'm obviously gonna be more gentle and kind of try to meet
Them where they're at and kind of you know gently bring them over to my side
I'm gonna try to meet people where they're at, but you know, it's like when we're preaching behind the pulpit
It's like
it's like, this is our turf, you know, this is God's house for us by us, you know, so it's like,
but what you're saying is, yeah, we could, I think what you're asking is, you know, are there
preachers that are preaching the same truth as we are, but they're just like doing it more kindly
or nicely, quote unquote, and that they're not ripping as much face as us. Yeah, it's probably,
X and IFB losers, you know, it's the no IFB the new old IFB or whatever the no
actually but I don't recommend the X and IFB losers because I think that they
just lack integrity as people because they you know are inconsistent and
hypocritical and and so I wouldn't recommend them so then I would just
recommend the old IFB in a lot of ways you know I mean the old IFB is
has a lot of good things going for them. I mean, I feel like the caller wasn't necessarily talking
about churches though. I think he's talking about like our approach to inviting them to church
when it's going to be a hardcore church. I thought he was talking about like videos to share with
people that are less radical than a Pastor Anderson sermon, but I don't know. I don't know what he,
maybe the caller can clarify. Can you clarify? Yeah, it was more like the videos or stuff because
faithful word Baptist Church. We watch it twice on Sundays, once on Wednesdays.
But sometimes it can be a bit much for somebody who's more left-leaning, you know?
So I guess like send him to Pastor Jimenez, you know, I mean pastor pastor
He meant as you know preaches a hundred percent right doctrine and I haven't heard a hell-raising sermon from him in a while
So maybe that'd be you know, he's kind of like a nicer touch softer touch
So and but his doctrine is on point
But I mean I like the passengers and said sometimes people just warm up so yeah
After they get the hard stuff, they don't want the weak stuff sometimes so
Thanks for calling Chris
Yeah, thanks so much for your questions we got lots of people in here I
Don't know if I'm gonna get to go to all of them
But I want to bring on let's see if we can bring on the lap the most
Recent guy calling in John from Fort Worth. I want to see if we can get John in here. Hey John. How's it going?
Yeah, how about y'all doing good?
Great pleasure to talk to you pastor. I was first I first
Came to watch you. It was 2017 and I just have a comment and a question so the comment is
I was living in an, I was an Israel lover and I was living somewhere with a huge Iranian immigration and I was going, you know, like, it was around the time that, you know, Europe was getting taken over.
You remember that. And I was going, you know, crap, like, I need to push back or like make a statement or something like that.
put it on my window, and then, you know, like God just deviates enemies, missiles, and I'm
going, oh, they're certainly blessed and all that.
And I thought, I was chilling one night, and I thought, oh, I'll just get a documentary
about Israel, because I feel like I want to learn more about it.
And I found March in the Zion, I was like, that's fun.
So I'll watch it, and then 20 minutes in, and I'm going.
I don't think that's going exactly where I thought it was going, and that was really
funny for me, but it was very well produced, so great job on that, and so that's number
one.
Even the people I was watching that with weren't Christians, but they certainly got
It's made in the image of God and I think everyone is responsive to truth when they see it and they hear it
So I appreciate you for that and the people who are involved in that
So that was funny. That's how I got in it. I don't know
That's how it started pain within Israel and Jews and now the other thing is
I just watched kind of on, you know, at twice the speed, Candace Owens' most recent upload.
And basically, I think she seems to have been very close to Charlie Kirk, and maybe she
is a more recent noticeer of things that Israel is doing and does and how secular Jews heard
America by the industries they're involved in here.
But she started actually posting, like, text messages with people who were apparently present.
at this meeting that Charlie Kirk had at the Hamptons,
and some of them were racial Jews.
So Bill Ackman, if you don't know,
Bill Ackman is a hedge fund manager
that called CNBC during the pandemic
and saying everything was gonna go to hell
and handbasket, and maybe two to three days later,
he shorts everything.
So he made like an absolute,
like the,
It was the most profitable move by lying to the American people.
Anyway, so this is a hedge fund manager that was present there, according to the Candace Owens.
And I'm not saying I have any proof of that, or Seth Dillon was also present.
He's a former or current CEO of Babylon B.
And what she was saying was that I also had this conversation.
It was kind of an intervention, the word she used.
I don't know if you're familiar with her most recent update, Upload, and if so, because again,
I really appreciate your wisdom in not trying to jump the gun here, but it's tempting in
a way.
Can you maybe just like give us a summary on a postage stamp, like in two sentences?
What you're saying because I'm not a hundred percent sure where you're going with this. So what what is the claim that's being made?
The claim that's being made was that
Charlie Kirk was
Slowly and very cautiously changing hard on Israel or asking questions and
another point that she makes is that took her Carlson being invited on to
Speak at a certain point USA and the fact that he was starting to get critical of Israel and yeah, okay
So I could I could buy I could buy it that like okay
you know yeah Charlie Kirk was slowly coming around on this a little bit because everybody is because like the whole nation is because social media has been blowing up with this for months.
So he's probably just reassessing like wait a minute am I on the wrong side of this or what's going on or you know I can see him maybe sticking a toe in the water but it's just super far fetched that some guy who's been very pro Israel.
And he's just barely sticking his toe in the water and just thinking about questioning Israel is just going to be assassinated by my son.
Like that just seems like a good jump, you know what I mean? And that's my opinion.
Yeah, I mean Tucker Carlson himself is a bigger target.
Yeah, why not exactly that's exactly what I was gonna say took her Carlson and also like and I was talking to my wife
About that the other day and I'm going how come people got to notice these things like when I first started dating her
I thought like oh, we're gonna start seeing something in 20 years
But it's been seven or eight years now and things already people already noticing and I'm going how come that came about and I thought
Instagram is an Instagram owned by Mark Zuckerberg
Mark Zuckerberg would be a much easier person to call and say, hey, why don't you just tone it down on your social media because a lot of it is coming from Instagram.
Also Facebook and also X, which is owned by Elon Musk. Elon Musk is a Jewish by his...
Mother some go like yes, there is some yeah, but hold up like this whole thing of like oh
Elon Musk is Jewish by his mother and so it seems like there's this thing of just calling everybody a Jew like I
Don't think there's any evidence of Elon Musk being a Jew whatsoever. Are you fact-checking this Pester Shelley?
I've never I don't think I've ever heard that Elon Musk is a Jew and I'm not
I'm not like
But people try to say like, oh, you're Jewish Pastor Anderson because your grandma had it in her DNA.
It's like everybody has it in their freaking DNA because they were scattered into all nations.
It's just like, you know.
Well, again, so online it says everybody is a Jew.
Yeah, his mom's name is Mae Musk.
She was born Mae Haldeman.
She's from Canada.
Her family moved to Pretoria, South Africa whenever she was younger, I guess so I don't I don't really see
any evidence
I think this is more of just that kind of wild everything's Jewish everything's the Jews Pastor Anderson's a Jew
It's just like like it's not out on the open. I don't see it
Go to a synagogue as a kid or something if he's not if his if his grandpa is not a rabbi
It's like there's got to be more of a smoking gun here. Yeah, I don't know if the grandpa is a rabbi, but I do remember when
When Ben Shapiro was interviewing him around the time that he kind of started tweeting, you know, who owns the media, duh,
Ben Shapiro kind of started, actually called him for an interview and he said, no, like I'm Jewish and I went to whatever the child school that he goes to.
Okay, look, I just looked it up. I just looked it up and Bro's grandpa expressed racist anti-Semitic views.
Yeah, yeah, his mom's dad and and it's like he Elon Musk said something like he went and visited Auschwitz and said
Oh, I'm Jewish by association or something. It's just like everybody goes to Auschwitz and gets
Propagandized and brainwashed. Maybe has their little Jew moment or whatever, but like it's just
You know, I just don't like this thing.
Yeah, no.
Everything's the Jews.
Everything's Israel.
No, no.
I'm not saying that.
What I'm saying is that his mother, I know his mother, well, his mother was born Hattleman.
And I mean, maybe I have some Jewish emigre too, and I mean, I'm not saying that, it's
just that...
They're all Jewish.
It would have been...
Everybody does.
Exactly.
Instead of calling...
But that's what I mean.
Instead of killing someone who's like, barely asking any questions...
why not, you know, talk about, you know, maybe
turning down social media, because that's where people are
actually finding out about things that they don't like about Israel.
I mean, Haldeman's Roots is a Swiss German name.
It's a Swiss German name.
It's from Canada.
from South Africa, like, I feel like this Jewish connection is so far off that it's just like,
it's like, it's like Q non stuff or something like that, or just like weird, flat earth,
conspiracy type stuff. Like, like again, you know, for the most part, people that are Jewish,
you just go to the Wikipedia page and it just says, yep, they're, they're born into a Jewish
household and they went to the synagogue of a child or like, it's right there in the early
And by the way, here's another fun fact, people that are Freemasons, they talk about being a Freemason, they admit to being a Freemason, they're open about the fact that they're a Freemason.
You know what I mean? Like, people being secretly Freemasons and stuff is a myth.
And so, like, you know, you got to take these conspiracy theories a la carte.
You can't just believe them all or believe none of them.
And things that have no evidence.
Yeah, you know, it's just yeah
Yeah, yeah
Do you have I want to kind of wrap up this line of thinking though because like I don't think that
I don't think we're getting anywhere on this narrative.
I think that we've said,
hey, Israel could be involved.
We're not against that theory.
Like if it's real, like we'll embrace it just like anything else.
We would like.
Yeah, we're pro the theory.
I mean, and I think we can ask the questions.
I think we can explore the Coke and spiriters.
I think that we can investigate all of it.
I'm just saying, I don't see any evidence.
The motives don't seem real obvious necessarily.
And so I'm a little bit skeptical at this point, maybe earlier on,
I thought there was more legitimacy to it.
But with more and more evidence coming out, it doesn't seem very real.
All anti-Semites out there and all like anti-Israel and anti-Jewish types.
And even those who are white supremacists and and super that just take a break.
You guys need to learn to branch out.
OK, so take a break being anti-Israel and anti-Jew.
Just be anti-faggot for a while. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like just try
I'm not talking to the collar. I'm just saying that to all I understand raised all of the crazed
anti-semiton acts and
Who's preached a lot against Israel and the Jews and will continue to do so. Can't we hate faggots?
Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Come on, man. I agree with you. We should be equal opportunity, you know, preachers ripping off. It's like, it's like, we should rip on the pit bull when we know, we know the pit bulls involved. It's like, we don't have to speculate the owner right now.
We've got lots of other collars.
I don't think I'm necessarily gonna get to go
to the rest of the collars.
I feel like this has been a pretty good productive stream.
Before we kind of like wrap up,
I just kind of wanna make sure though,
you feel like there's something
that we haven't really explored
or haven't talked about on this topic
that you're kind of hoping to get to this evening,
Pastor Anderson?
Well, I mean, there was one thing I wanted to bring up
because I had seen earlier today,
There was one of these, like, left-wing black preachers preaching in a black church,
and a lot of times, some of these black churches, unfortunately,
are like, actually not even really as much religious institution as political institutions.
It's like, and some of them have even gotten in trouble for that.
Is this the Friendship West clip? Because I think I've seen it, too.
I don't I'm not sure it might have been but like you know these a lot of these churches
They're actually like a political organization. Yes masquerading as a church and they just get up and preach politics all day every day
And I think I think that is the clip
But he said don't compare Kirk to King
You know if you say that if you say that Kirk got assassinated
You're putting him in the same because he's like King got assassinated. This doesn't look like the right clip
But the one you're describing sounds like the right clip and here's what he said
Here's what he said. He said don't compare Kirk to King and I'm thinking to myself. You know what? It's an insult to Kirk
to compare him to Martin Luther King,
because Martin Luther King Jr. is a serial adulterer,
just this gross communist freak
that's just committing all this serial adultery
and having orgies and stuff in hotel rooms,
whereas Charlie Kirk seems to be kind of a salt of the earth
guy who's just faithful to his wife
and just married, has kids, faithful to his spouse.
So it's like, yeah, don't compare him to King
because King was scum and Charlie Kirk seems to have been
Pretty decent guy. It's a long clip, but let's let's just play it and we can we can respond or react to this.
Get your theology together because the sad thing is we live in a nation where twisted
toxic theology is poisoning the politics of this nation. Have you thought about the fact that this
week in Utah a white christian got killed by a white christians?
And then the next day, HBCUs were under threat.
All right, let's pause it for a second,
because I want to come up.
What is an HBCU?
I don't know what that is.
Yeah, it's a historically black college or university.
So I, because I didn't know what that was either,
and I looked it up and there was some news article
that claimed that all these black universities
were getting threats.
uh, or black colleges were getting threats the day after Kirk's assassination.
But here's the thing, there's no way that has anything to do with the Charlie Kirk situation
whatsoever. Number one. But how is it a white, how is it a white Christian when it's a faggot left,
it's a faggot leftist libtard who's got a faggy furry fag buddy? Yeah. I mean at best, at best he's a Mormon.
But that's not Christian number one and number two. I don't believe he's Mormon even I wouldn't even blame it on the Mormons
Like he's like ex-Mormon. He's just like a he's like an atheist fag-loving idiot left this freak
Like it's not this quote white Christian killing another white Christian. That's I can sing plus he's putting quotes around both of them
So it's like can white people just not even be Christian? Like what flavor of Christian?
Christian, but well, he's gonna say more when you play more. Yeah, but I'm just saying like what flavor of Christian
Even exists. That's white to him like what white people are actually quote Christian
Well, from what I've heard of this guy this guy is the one who's gonna burn in hell
Absolutely, this guy's a freak because you know this guy's only like 10 minutes from my church
He's really yeah, exactly. This church is only like 10 minutes from
Cedar Hill USA headquarters is two miles from my church. Yeah, it was just all in our neck of the woods
But the historically black cause I want to say this either a the the threat level is
Because you know, there was a bunch of faggots on campus and like maybe they're just threatening facts as nothing do the fact
They were black or number two
Like simultaneously there was this one video where this black guy just brutally stabs some
white girl on the subway and just kills her or whatever. That was horrifying. So if there was
any racially motivated like targets or threats this week.
At black colleges it's probably from that event. It's not Charlie Kirk
It has nothing. It's not like it's not like Charlie Kirk's over here
Just like bashing black people or something like that. It's just like there's all these fake sir
There's all these fake quotes. There's these fake quotes that liberals are
Spreading making it seem like Charlie Kirk is racist. I there's so many clips where Charlie Kirk is saying like
I don't believe in race and we're all one in Christ Jesus.
There's no, you know, Jew, Gentile, you know, barbarians.
The guy's definitely not racist.
Like, it's not even a question mark.
Yeah. I know.
So I just wanted to, I just wanted to make sure to clarify that for the audience's sake
of what the HBCU or whatever was.
Yeah, I didn't even, either way.
Yeah, and then, but we'll, we'll keep playing this clip.
Get in it!
Bunch of idiots just seals clapping oh, that's called white on white crime. I
Love this guy's body
You see, he's such a badass.
Yeah, pause it for again.
I love how these people, when they think they made an awesome point, they just say, that's a 100.
It's like when Joe Jones is preaching he's like that's a that's a real 100 if I do say so myself.
Let another man praise you and not that own mouth. It's like they're liking their own post or something like that
Let's I'm just enjoying like you could almost just watch this guy on mood mute all the like rotations and like
Bending over like he's he's got well. This is their hard preaching. This is their dynamic preaching, right?
Just lying through his teeth. Yeah, like at the end. It's funny. He just he says all this unbiblical crap
It's just all political and they just like yells a Bible verse that doesn't really support anything. He said
Just to like
You can see the fw for friendship west
He said there's more people in his church than Utah the state
A white Christian gets killed murder
not assassinated we're gonna tell the whole truth today Martin King got
assassinated Malcolm X got assassinated Medgar X got assassinated don't
compare Kirk to King ain't no such comparison now let me look does yeah
pause max does this guy think that Malcolm X is in heaven
Like did Malcolm X believe that Jesus is the son of God?
Because he's just like
He's just acting like Malcolm X is like the people in Hebrews 11 of whom the world is not worthy
He's just like he's just in the hall of faith here
Martin King got a sesame Malcolm X or I guess maybe just you just get to go to heaven if you're black according to this guy's religion
Yeah, isn't Malcolm X like a promoter of Islam. I thought Malcolm X was was Islamic
Yeah, like did he confess? He's the son of God. How could he go to heaven?
So black Muslims get to go to heaven, but not white
quotation mark around his Christian he's Christian he's a spokesman I'm on the wikipedia page for
Malcolm X spokesman of the nation of Islam promotion of Islam he joined the nation of Islam
well but he but he's but he's black yeah
But then he publicly renounced the nation of Islam and founded the Islamic Muslim mosque incorporated
So it's just a lot of Islam on top of Islam and then he was assassinated. I thought there was always a black Hebrew Israelites
There's black. There's like black
Muslim Islamists or whatever we well and and and this guy basically is
Lionizing Malcolm X in church
You know, supposedly Christian clergy organizing Malcolm X.
being like a martyr of the faith or something. Oh man. This is the most
insane clip. Let's hear more of this guy. Well I agree with him though like we
should not compare Charlie Kirk to Martin Luther King. Yeah because Martin
Luther King is so wicked and Charlie Kirk is like faithful to his wife. Martin
Luther King the FBI was like doing surveillance on him having orgies in his
hotel room and that's all been released now. Martin Luther King if he was in this
He would have been the Lance twigs of the story because he's like he's like in the
sodomite relationship with the shooter or something like that.
Yeah, because it's like he's so weird and bizarre.
Charlie Kirk's like a faithful, loyal, husband, normal guy, and we have, you know,
King is just like this adulterer, sodomite.
All these connections to the Communist Party.
People should watch my documentary, Marxist, Lucifer King.
Absolutely, should probably vote that again for this guy.
Let's keep going.
I'm hasten to say, I'm anti-political violence.
Kirk should still be alive. I don't agree with the time with up with anything Kirk say it
Any Kirk said was dangerous
When Kirk says that like Jesus is the only way to heaven if you have 30 seconds to live
The only thing that matters. It's not your good works. It's just whether Jesus is your Lord and Savior
That's the only thing it's gonna determine whether you go to heaven or not is that
He, this guy doesn't agree with anything Kirk says.
So if Kirk's against fags or trannies or-
Pro-Constitution, pro-free speech, anything.
If he's against porno, if he's against this-
I am the antithesis of Charlie Kirk.
This agrees with everything that Charlie Kirk has ever said.
I mean, he might be real.
Malcolm X is awesome.
This is preaching
White supremacist he literally said that Charlie Kirk promoted white supremacy that is just a lie
Charlie Kirk specifically said like race is a social construct and we're all the same and stuff like
When did he promote white supremacy?
This guy's a railer.
This guy should be thrown out of the church for railing.
He's hate filled.
Like who does Charlie Kirk even hate?
Like can we even label like one group that he hated?
Cause it seemed like he was pretty ecumenical.
He's even like, he'll even be like nice to trannies
that he's even talking to on the campus.
You and I would just be like, get AIDS and die.
Yeah.
And he's like interacting with them.
Who is he hating?
Like it's just it's just like insane
All right, all right, let's see it. Let's hear our friend here be alive
He still should be playing with this kids. He should still should be experiencing the love with this wife
He still should be experiencing life as he saw it. I don't want anybody
Please hear me well anybody to be victimized by political violence, but I'm gonna keep it above
Because one of the things it gets me and we got some politicians in here. We got some great
Did you miss that great slang cuz I missed it the first time he said I don't want any political violence
But I'm gonna keep it a buck. I
Think that's a synonym for 100 a buck
I thought he said I'm gonna keep it above I guess I just didn't hear it right
I'm pretty sure can we back the tape because I'm pretty sure he's gonna keep it a buck
But wait a minute doesn't he say I'm against political violence how how can this but wait a minute
How can it be political violence?
But not an assassination like don't don't these two things isn't political violence by definition an assassination
How do you reconcile these two people only people that he likes were assassinated
He's like, I'm against the political violence, but it's not assassination because one of the things it gets me
And we got some politicians. We didn't go back far enough. We got to roll it back
Saw it. I don't worry. It's coming. Please hear me. Well anybody to be victimized by political violence
Well, I'm gonna keep it above
I'm going to keep it a buck and he's got one finger up.
And we got some politicians in here.
One buck.
You've got to use that in your sermon.
That should be like the challenge.
You have to use this somehow in your sermon.
America, we better than this.
Will the FW stand up?
We ain't better than this, America was born in political violence, America committed political
violence during the slave trade, America committed political violence with.
During the slave trade, I want to know what politicians were killed to bring in the slave
trade.
What does that even mean?
Maybe he's referencing, you know, Lincoln later and later, I don't know.
I guess you could argue that the entire civil war is political violence.
Yeah, 1776.
But it's like, are we gonna say like, that that was bad again?
It's just like, he's just against all the constitution and everything.
Well, here's the thing usually these critical race theory these critical race theory woke types
They usually believe that America has always been evil
America's always been a force for evil like bro is just wearing a fancy suit and just like probably drives some super expensive car
Oh, yeah, fancy
But but he's sitting there and just acting like America's so bad and so evil because of how they treat black people and yet here
He's like this successful black man like monetarily and probably the church is filled with monetarily successful black people
He just finished talking about how fancy they all looked
And it's like, but then usually the critical race theory types just believe America's always been evil. It was founded on evil.
Everything's been evil and we're finally fixing it. We're going to make it good, but it's never been good.
It's always been wicked. Like that's their view.
This church is like every bad stereotype of what a black church would be times a thousand.
They had the largest BLM banner.
Probably in the world just hanging on the side of their building like I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if it was the largest
BLM banner ever made in history
That's just like hanging on the side of their church for years, but he's gonna keep it a buck
He's gonna keep it a buck. It's gonna be 100. It's just a political. It's a political action committee
Just masquerading as a church. Well, wasn't there something in the news recently? Who's that other?
like Black preacher who's just a politician. Al Sharpton. I saw that didn't he just lose his
tax exempt status or something? Al Sharpton. Not maybe not him somebody somebody just lost
their status. Okay let me let me find you know what's interesting about this specific preacher
that we're talking about he like had to take a leave of absence
Today so that he preached this yesterday, and he had to take a leave of absence today some medical leave of absence
Just like after well, but his brother left me. He just left nothing on the field. He preaches so hard. I
Remember one of my kids, you know kids say really like wild and funny things
I remember one of my kids when he was little he said when he said when I grow up. I'm gonna be pastor
I'm gonna preach so hard that like when I'm done preaching I'm gonna be have to be carried out of the building on a stretcher
Because I just like I preach so hard that I just gave it everything
Wow, so
Yeah, so apparently
Reverend Al Sharpton has a long running history of personal tax controversies
But his thing is still tax exempt. So maybe I misread that article
Because there well, you know what I think it might be fake
Did he pause on us or something? Oh, there you go AI is saying maybe not so I don't know who knows
They should lose it though. These these churches that are just like so
Political and they're not even about the Bible at all. It's like what the heck. How is that a church?
I mean Luther King here. How is he a pastor?
He didn't but he denied the virgin birth. He denied the resurrection of Jesus Martin Luther King, Jr.
But he's a Baptist pastor. That's just his platform
for his political stuff.
Well, I mean, again, to be conspiratorial,
I've read about this, that some of these churches
are just like Democrat funding centers.
And honestly, when there's any election,
they will bust their church members
to the voting areas to vote.
Like they're like actively involved
in just getting these people into these buildings
for the sole purpose of basically
busing them to vote for the Democrat party.
and they're being funded like through shady means
in a lot of ways, a lot of Democrat money
is coming out of these areas.
Because I mean, this building is a huge building.
I mean, a lot of money's coming into this building.
And I'm not saying that they couldn't possibly
have some rich people in their church.
What is this guy's name?
Let's just be honest.
It's probably got some funding coming from a dark sword.
What is this pastor's name?
Yeah, I have it in an article.
Fredrick Haines the third I'm gonna I'm gonna pull up this article and
Fredrick Douglas Haines the third all right here we go
You can pull up this
My screen here
He's the senior pastor of friendship West Baptist Church. He's announcing a leave of absence citing medical diagnosis
Oh, he's a prophetic pastor
Yeah, passionate leader social activist in the article. It says in 2022 he was awarded the Joseph R. Biden Jr. presidential lifetime achievement leadership award and community service by the president himself.
So in 2022 he was given some special award by Biden specifically.
connections someone someone message me and says why does it have to be a quote
dark source but no pun intended but at the end of the day well you know this
guy actions he's uh he's using all this effective slang because he has he got
his bachelor's degree in English
In, in religion, he got a bachelor's degree at Bishop College in Dallas, Texas.
He graduated with honors with a bachelor's degree in religion and English.
So that's why he has such a command of the, of the language and he's up to date on, on
the slang and everything.
So it's, it's quite elevat.
as strange fruit and on southern trees america committed political violence against the irish
against the italians before they became white american america committed political before
they were white when america passed jim and jane crow laws what do you think political
violence was political violence when they bombed and massacred black wall street when they
White's and blacks in Wilmington, North Carolina, but what do you think political violence is?
Martin being killed. That's political violence. John Kennedy being killed. Political violence.
Robert Kennedy being killed. Political violence. And you gonna say we better than this? No.
You can't fix what you won't face until you look in the mirror and say this is a violent country.
How he doesn't look like he needs to take a medical leave because he's he seems like he's real physically fit here
He's he's doing aerobics up here. I don't know what happened. I
Don't know. I didn't know what this black Wall Street thing is. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I yeah
Well, we called the Tulsa race massacre says it's a two-day long white supremacist terrorist massacre
Supposedly happened in 1921 when mobs of white residents
Uh were appointed as deputies and armed by the civil government and attacked black residents and destroyed homes. I'm sure it was bad
But but what the heck does this have to do with charlie kerf?
And it happened 104 years ago.
It happened 104 years ago,
but this guy just wants to keep fomenting racism
because it seems like he's just kind of a race baiting.
Like that's just,
because even in his description on his church website,
it's just all about how he experienced segregation.
He experienced racism.
He's a activist for black people.
It's just, I think that that's his shtick.
You know, it's not about the gospel of Jesus Christ.
It's just the gospel of white people.
I mean, it's the probably one of the worst churches in the Dowsford area.
And it's not church at all.
Everybody I've ever met there that like goes there, I mean, is not saved.
And they, you can kind of tell that they're just like already mad that I exist just because I'm white.
Like you can tell that they're like super racist against white people for the most part.
the church is just, it's a train wreck of a church.
And I would argue again, it's not a real church,
it's just a Democrat convention.
If you click on justice on their website,
it'll show you, like in the, they have a little video,
it shows you that BLM banner on their building
right at the very beginning of the video.
Where's the justice section?
It's at the top of the website.
It's got its own tab.
You could yeah, I'll pull it up. You can pull it up on I'm already seeing it
Here you go big black lives matter
And black lives matter is the most transvestite bag promoting institution ever like that's
all over their website that's part and parcel of who they are I mean if you're gonna have
a BLM flag you might as well have the pride Sodomite flag it's the same thing because
the beat because BLM.
All the people who run it are pretty much sodomites and they
If you if you just navigate the BLM website, it's just promoting sodomy. They literally have gender justice
They're just on the screen
it's like social justice, you know, environmental justice, then it's a gender justice. What is gender justice?
Well, that's just feminism.
I mean, I guess it could just be feminism, but...
I mean, feminism's wicked, though, but it's... they're teaching something called womanist theology.
It's basically just feminism, but they call it... instead of feminism, they call it womanism.
woman is woman is so that that's the next sermon woman is a man lie to the
Bible and let me tell you something I'm keeping it a bug in that sermon
Bet violence to too many people. We will never get our act together
It's time to repeat because if my people
My name
I'm bowed themselves in play
Turn from their wicked ways. Then will I hear from heaven forgive their sin and heal the land?
I've never been that fired up. I don't think I've ever been that
Well, maybe, uh, maybe, maybe that's, I believe because like the, his preaching style is so
strenuous.
Yeah.
is there's so much movement and like dance moves and choreography that like if he's not in tip-top
condition it's like he can't he's not going to be able to do all the swinging and swaying and
jumping that needs to do to deliver the message. So I just don't understand like if we repent as
a nation then we won't have like sodomites and faggots killing Charlie Kirk like I mean like
Um, he's this is what this is what he's saying. He's saying we need to admit how bad we are and just how
Racist and and how white supremacists we are and then if we if we admit that and then turn from that evil
Then God's gonna heal our land and that like that's everything wrong with America is just racism
And you know like earlier in the broadcast I was irritated with people who just think everything's the Jews
This guy is the same way. It's just everything's white people. Yeah, well white on white crime is the is the thing
That's really rampant in America. It's just it's just another one-issue person
another
We ain't better than this but to get better
You got to acknowledge what's wrong
What's wrong?
It's us white people just being white white is the problem
All the political violence, Whitey.
Whitey's just killing everybody.
Well, don't you remember when you and your parents
and grandparents did that
when you bombed Wall Street
in 1921, Black Wall Street in Tulsa?
Sorry, my parents
were living in Georgia.
Actually, my grandfather...
I'm sure they drove over.
I don't even know if my grandfather was alive yet.
1921 right there, man. I'm sure that I I think that your grandfather probably flew one of the planes
Yeah, I
Don't know what that had to do with Charlie Kirk because it really didn't even though he brought his name up, but
That's that's the world that we live with these people like everyone's taking advantage of this even even this guy
Just white people are bad because Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a white person
He was assassinated by a white person and that's why white Christian white Christians are killing conservatives
Yeah
That's that's how crazy people like it's crazy as this guy sounds sometimes
That's how some people on our side sound too when they start going down these weird rabbit trails
So, you know, that's that's why it's important for us to you know, at least stick to facts
That's why I was trying to rein it in a little you know
Sorry if I was too mean. I was just trying to rain it in man
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But it was great to have at least a co-host today.
So I didn't have to just stare at the camera by myself.
Thanks, Pastor Anderson for coming on.
Is there anything else you wanted to say
or plug before we kind of wrap up here?
No, I mean, you know, we got to watch out for the the feminism and the woman ism
That are on the rise in our country. Oh, whatever that in our FIM documentary
But you know, honestly, I just think that
Things have already been kind of coming our way ideologically in this country. This has been a great year best year ever and
it seems like
good Bible preaching is coming into fashion. It's coming into season and
People are responding better than ever
So I think we should work harder than ever to try to get the message of the truth out because
People are responding and so I you know I would share to anybody or I would I would encourage anybody's watching this
You know to share good biblical preaching and share documentaries
And you know, type up your own commentaries or whatever you want to do, but just, you know, we should be messaging the gospel and the Bible and things I got, because I think people are more receptive than ever.
At least in my 20 years of ministry, I feel like people are more receptive to my preaching than they've ever been.
And so, you know, we should use this opportunity
to get people saved.
And I think that Charlie Kirk being assassinated
as sad as it is, you know, that that happened
and, you know, for his loved ones and everything,
I think that all things work together
for good to them that love God.
And I just think that just like,
is just gonna like give a big boost.
Like things were already coming our way ideologically
and now they just got a big, fat boost.
So, you know, this Sodomite, his plan backfired.
You just created a martyr, well, and I think we are radicalizing, you know people and I say radicalizing
We're actually normalizing them. We're normalizing but of course on this show
We're always gonna keep it a buck and we're gonna make sure that
Everybody gets the real truth real 100
And, you know, at the end of the day, I think that the Baptist bias is rubbing off on some people and it's definitely doing its work.
But we don't want to stop. We want to keep with the momentum.
I definitely feel empathy and sorrow for the loss of Charlie Kirk and for those loved ones.
But at the end of the day, I think this really is working out for good.
I think that he's more popular than ever.
The good things he said are gonna be immortalized
and we're gonna be hearing them for years and years and years.
And I think it's important for good people,
good Christians, people that have a solid salvation testimony
to go out there and take advantage of this opportunity
to preach the gospel to people that are curious,
interested, bring these things up.
You know, I don't think this is the time
to pile on Charlie Kirk.
Why don't we pile on the stinking furries and faggots
and trannies and all these disgusting people.
That's the people we should be piling up on.
And look, I'm pro piling on Israel,
but let's just focus on the faggot right now
when that seems to be the main view.
And let's give some respect to Charlie Kirk
for the few good things he did say that were right
and take advantage of this opportunity
to get people to come to our side.
Because look, everybody's got a perspective out there,
but we need to help people get the Baptist bias.