babysitter? Have you considered care.com? We have hundreds of extremely qualified
professionals who would love to watch your children. In fact there's nothing
more natural than 40 and 50 year old men wanting to change the diapers of
toddlers. There's nothing suspicious about that at all. Now we at care.com
care about giving people second, third, even fourth chances while others try to
highly scrutinize their workforce with things like background checks, gender
stereotypes, and homophobic probes. We make sure that our standards align with
the latest news report from CNN. Now we know that children love the alphabet so
much therefore we try to make sure that our employees are part of the LGT+
crew. Nothing could sound more kid-friendly than letters from the
alphabet. Unfortunately, there are some evil workers out there trying to
undermine our desire for children to be lovingly cared for by our unique experts.
These people pretend to be children online, children who are interested in
adult relationships, but they're lying. It's shocking, I know. Now of course we
would never want to judge anyone's love because love is love, but we find it
extremely disturbing that individuals who hate love would try to divide the
natural relationship between children and older men, especially considering
that many of them actually work for our company. Many of the people they're
investigating work for us and so it's been creating a staffing shortage for us
and we need to stand against this behavior. I don't understand how people
can sleep at night when their job is to catch what they call "predators" but we
call them "employees" right here at care.com. This has to stop or parents are
gonna end up having to watch their own children. The horror! Our vision is that
mothers would no longer be burdened with quote "raising their children" end quote
but rather be able to make Subway sandwiches for a boss that they greatly
admire and we can make that vision a reality by providing the caretakers
mothers could never be. Really at the core of our heart is love because love
wins and we need to stop minor attracted poachers for the good of our democracy
for social justice to fight anti-semitism to eradicate harmful
stereotypes to build more tunnels and better empathize with rapists. Those who
stand in our way are hateful bigots who think they love children. They say they
love justice, sanity, truth, the Bible, facts, but we know the truth about these
deplorables. We know that they have a mental disease that we here at care.com
call the Baptist bias. Thanks for joining us on the Baptist bias live. We're in
here with Ben the Baptist. We might even drug some people off the street
for today's episode. So Ben, how's it going? It's great to be here for another
episode of the Baptist bias. I feel like we set the bar high last Tuesday night
considering that for the next week everyone was talking about it and so the
pressure's on, Pastor Shelly. Let's see if we can top it or at least come close. I
want to just give a quick shout out to the folks in the chat room real quickly.
We've got Baptist 1488 in there, Real, Gel, Oski, MoBible 1611, Jeffrey Harvey,
Based Baptist 1611, Jamison Griggs and others are joining us live so keep
filing into the chat. I like that our users are always Baptist, Jordan Baptist,
Based Baptist. It sounds like we got some Baptist bias in the comment section.
Ben the Baptist. Oh, Ben the Baptist. He made it into the section. It was a great
show last week. Thanks so much for tuning in live. We're gonna be taking
some call-ins. If anybody wants to call in 231Baptist and we'd love to hear your
thoughts about last week's show, about ideas for the future, and of course we're
still going hard on Rumble. Of course that's where you can go hard. You can
talk about Jews, fags, and everything else in between. So it's great while we
have it, and I think that Ben just drug somebody off the street to join our
podcast. What's going on with your guest over here? Well, you know, I figured that
I really wanted to demonstrate some charity this evening for the homeless
and for folks out there who are unfortunately downtrodden in life, and so
we brought this individual into the studio. Some diversity hires over here,
right? Right, he is 2% black, I believe, and so I wanted to also fulfill that
quota as well because we here at The Baptist Bias stand for diversity, a
perfect pizza pie of all different races. Can we pull up our homeless project over
here on the show? There he is. What's going on with your shirt there, bro? So
this is my merchandise to actually get on my website, White Boy Entertainment. It
says, "I hope I don't get killed for being black today." So yeah, I just
did a city council meeting and stuff, so we was talking about like George, they're
trying to build an airport up in there in McKinney, and I was like, "Y'all need to
make that George Floyd International Airport." You know what I'm saying? It's gonna be, not only will
the airport not be racist, but it will be anti-racist. I think McKinney is where there's
a lot of diversity, so that's great. Facts, facts on facts. Well, I think we have an awesome
show tonight. We even have another guest. Alex Rosen is gonna be coming on the show
later, but before we get there, we do want to kind of just do a quick recap, talk about
last week's show. Now, we actually even made a full episode, just kind of ad hoc episode
about last week, a recap video. What did you think about a recap video?
The recap podcast we did on Saturday night. I thought it was a lot of fun to talk about
it. It was like a debrief. I don't know that we've ever done that. Like we've never had
a show that was so eventful that we had to do an entire hour plus talking about that
episode and just unpacking everything that happened on the broadcast. But I really liked
it because it gave us a chance to provide context to the podcast and also some more
detail on where you and I stand on everything that happened. I'm sure some might have been
curious about that. And we were able to give that to the viewer. So I really liked it.
It was a lot of fun to record. Yeah, it's a shame that our guest doesn't have internet
or know how to use a phone. Otherwise, you get to watch the show last week. And although
I don't know, did you were you able to borrow someone else's phone or laptop and check in
last week? Who the hell you think you was talking to me like that? You lucky you white.
I'm about as white as they come. No, but I was gonna say I was watching the little thing
with Pastor Steven Anderson and Kent Hovind. Kent Hovind talked about Abraham Lincoln's
marriage license. He said it was just giving permission for the for the preacher to marry
them him and his wife, right? Well, Abraham Lincoln was black. And so it's important to
understand that he was black and he was he did not have a marriage license. It looked
like a marriage license. No, I wouldn't. There's a picture of one out there, but it's not an
actual marriage license, just a picture of one. And so I think he got I think Abraham
Lincoln got married on Google Hangouts. Yeah, yeah, he might have invented Google, in fact.
But no, last week's show, I was really not sure how it would go. But I was really pleasantly
surprised by the response. Now, of course, y'all's response might have caused us some
unwanted attention from people that wear tiny hats. They look a little they're black, like
a friend, but they're even tinier hats. And those individuals wanted to get us canceled.
So Jews? Yeah. What'd you say? News? Nothing. Yeah, I didn't say okay. Something about noses
or something? I don't know. You good? Aren't you Jewish? Are you anti-Semitic? I am in
fact an anti-Semitic Semite, the very first one. So does that mean you hate yourself?
How does that work? I think that's what it means. I feel like I have carte blanche to
say whatever I want about them, but no, I still get accused just like everyone else
of hating on Semitic people, even though I am one. In all seriousness, was there any
winners or losers from last week? What is it, Bryant? Or what do we call you, White
Boy, 2%? In comedy, Bryant. Okay, Bryant. Yeah, so now I'm going to be 100 with you,
I think Pastor Steven Anderson. Yeah, that's, you know, he a real one. You know, Kent Hoeven
out there, he lying and stuff, so, you know, he got an automated response for everything.
Yeah, Pastor Anderson totally cooked him, and I think he exposed Hoeven as having that
automated response. He got a fake PhD. I mean, again, I still like a lot of the Young Earth
creationist arguments. I think that some of the talking points are brought up about Abraham's
and the age of the earth according to the Bible. There was some confusing stuff that Dr. Hoeven
had said, and I think that when it came to the moon and the crater issue, that was obviously
kind of bizarre to think that rocks are shooting off of the earth and hitting the moon. But,
you know, at the same time, I think that there's definitely holes in a lot of the evolutionary
theory. I think that modern science puts a lot of billions of years where it may not actually be
scientific. And so, you know, I think that there's a balance there. And again, I made a video
recently, I uploaded it today, talking about how I don't believe the earth is billions of years old.
And so, I think you could check out that video. It's not a live stream. It was just a video that
I just uploaded. But I wanted to put that out there. Now, tonight, we're talking about predators.
Do you like predators, Ben? I think you know the answer to that question.
Now, you've helped make some documentaries. Did they happen to talk about predators at all?
Two of them. Two of the documentaries that you might be referencing have talked about
predators. One of them being the Sodomite Deception. Cheap plug. Make sure you check
out the SodomiteDeception.com to watch that film. And then of course, LGBT Terrorists,
which also covered the fact that faggots are predators who go after children. So no,
I don't like them at all. I hate them. I wish they would all die. And that's all I really have
to say right this second. Well, I mean, The Sodomite Deception was a film that you and I
worked on. And we put it on a cheap website. We actually revamped the website, made it a lot
nicer, put some more details out there. Yeah, that's great. Honestly, you know, it's frustrating
because we bought a billboard. And because I'm not black, they took it down. You know,
we should have gotten Brian to buy our billboard for us because we should have been representing
diversity. Black privilege. Yes. You do not have black privilege. I think that's a legit thing.
I think like workplaces, they want to hire people that are black. They love
Brian and they want people like him that look like him, talk like him, act like him. Like he's the
ideal workforce. Probably even, you know, pilots. Like some of the professions that we should see
Brian more in. Medical professionals, doctors, surgeons. I mean, if you're going to get surgery,
I would want my surgeon to look exactly like Brian. Of course. I mean, think about it. He
indicates on a low level so I can understand. His bedside manner is incredible. Right. I mean,
if you're going to get a procedure done, you're waiting in the doctor's office, the secretary
calls your name and the doctor opens the door to his office and out walks this man right here. How
could you not trust him to operate on you or to check out your medical history? Well, you'd be
racist if you didn't, right? I ain't going to lie. If I was operating on you, I'd mess your ass up.
He seems to have a grudge against you. I don't know what it is that you did. I'll talk about you.
Oh, me? What the hell did I do? I thought we were buddies. What the heck happened?
It's a medic, obviously. So, yeah. Well, I really loved The Sodomite Deception.
Yeah. No, it was a good film.
But a lot of people like LGBT Terrace more. What is your opinion?
I think Sodomite Deception is better if I had to pick between one of those two films.
And the reason why is because I think that it explains doctrine a little bit more.
The reprobate doctrine goes into detail a little bit more. It goes into more detail on the homos
themselves and how evil and wicked they are. But for me, that ending sequence, and folks,
if you haven't seen the film, here is one of the reasons why you need to go watch it.
The preaching in this film is so awesome. And specifically, that ending portion,
that sequence with the epic music and the pastors all going nuts and preaching their heart out,
it'll give you goosebumps, folks. It'll make the hair on the back of your neck stand up.
I really love that portion of the film. Who made that portion of the film?
I'm not sure. Oh, okay.
It sounds like I'm bragging, I know. But it's the preaching I'm putting over,
not my editing, okay? It was good editing. So I really
liked "LGBT-Terrorist" from an entertainment perspective. I feel like it carried a really
entertaining narrative. I think "Sodomite's Exception" was like more educational.
Yeah. But "LGBT-Terrorist"
was kind of like a little bit more entertaining. Well, and I can see why some people would like
"LGBT-Terrorist" more because it deals with specific persecution that we went through as a church and
our story. And if you weren't totally familiar with what "Steadfast Baptist Church" went through
for a few years there, then I could see why that film would be more intriguing for you.
What I thought was powerful in "LGBT-Terrorist" was when Brian over here is interviewing
these predators and there's this disgusting freak holding up a child and saying, "You can't film my
minors. You can't film my minors." And then like literally shoving this child in the face of Cassidy
and his cameraman. What was going through your mind when you were filming this? Yeah, so I was
gonna say when I was filming that, I thought uh, I mean, I didn't think they were gonna do nothing,
but I mean, I was just kind of like damn, this entertaining right now. Did you even think that
that kid was his real kid? I mean, it's, it looked more than 2% black. Nah, the first thing I thought
it was they molested that little thing. Yeah, but I'm just saying like it doesn't even look like it's
child. Looks like it just borrowed it off the street or something because the child is like
half black and this disgusting freak. You don't ever know with them what kind of relationships
they have. Yeah, I mean, where are they, where are they getting these children? Are they going on
Care.com then? Probably. I mean, judging by that opening video package there with the Care.com
employee, I mean, it's certainly plausible. I want to bring this into the discussion quickly.
Jordan Baptist, he says, "Sodomite deception is better. The other one, for red-pilling people,
first you watch psychopath reprobates," he put repros, but I'll say, I'll fill out the word for
him, "then sod deception, then watch LGBT terrorists." I think that's an interesting
trilogy right there of films. It's like Star Wars. Yes, based version. So are we gonna have to go
back to an earlier version of the series now? A prequel. A prequel. A prequel to Sodomite Deception.
Let's do it. But yeah, I agree with that, because you could start off with psychopath reprobates to
learn about that doctrine, then you go to Sodomite Deception, then you top it off with LGBT terrorists.
That's what, six hours of content right there. If you'd like to call into the show,
you can call in at 231-Baptist. We'd like to hear your thoughts about last week's podcast or
any of the things that we're talking about right now, and you'd call in 231-Baptist.
I saw someone put a comment in here about another film, The Sound of Freedom. I actually really
liked that film. It's kind of not necessarily a pleasant film. It's not something that I enjoy
watching because it's kind of a sad story and a sad impact on reality, but I think it's an
impactful film. I think that the film helps to just drive the narrative and get people talking
about the predators that exist in this world. Did you see the film? I watched the film.
It was one of the hardest movie, I think the hardest movie that I've ever had to sit through.
It was really, really difficult to watch. I would not watch it again for that reason,
but if I'm going to talk about it in terms of cinematography, acting, writing, storytelling,
it does a great job, no question about that. But the subject matter is just so dark and so
difficult to sit through and it just elicits such strong emotions out of me, especially as a father
of two children and one on the way. Yeah, emotional film for me.
I think they let black people in for free. Did you see the film?
Yeah, so I did get in for free. No, no, I downloaded that thing. I got it off.
Ghazal? Lime wire or what? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lime wire,
that's what it was. Nah, I've watched it. But you know what I noticed about all these movies?
It's all like Mormons and Catholics. That's the sad thing about it. All Mormons.
How come no Bible-believing Christians? Well, we need more. Obviously, hey,
sodomy deceptions, Baptist film, LGBT terrorists. I think that our films are a little spicy for the
theaters. But contrary to popular belief, LGBT terrorists was seen in film in theaters, folks.
Okay. And, you know, sodomy deception would have been, but I just didn't have the idea already.
Well, I didn't. When we were watching LGBT terrorists in the film in the in the theater,
I didn't know if we were going to get kicked out midway through because I started to hear
rumors that some of the workers were like, onto us and they were kind of freaking out about the
subject matter of the movie and like what's wrong with the movie I mean according to you know you
know you know what they were thinking I mean here's the thing they came in to like help us
out with something or clean up something I can't remember there were like a couple of employees
that walked in and they walked in right as you were just like these filthy faggots or something
like that and they I could see the look on their face like they were kind of freaked out a little
by I don't know if I would ever talk like that I don't know that doesn't sound like you yeah I
think I mixed you up for somebody else yeah sorry I don't know what you're saying maybe maybe we
should go back to Arlington City Council you know we could talk about predators there well that was
exhilarating for sure I know that this guy right here he has a lot of experience going to city
council meetings including that one that you just brought up but I just remember when we had a
chance to go to the city council meeting and I walked up to the podium I looked into the eyes
of Mayor Ross and he looked like he wanted to rip me a limb from limb and destroy and kill me like
this guy really hated my guts I think he disliked black people because he was really mad at our
friend over here yeah because uh I remember when I went up there and uh the first gay mayor yeah
the first gay mayor no but I was gonna no I was gonna say um I remember his daughter was up there
and she's like talking and uh I knew she was about to say a bible verse and I was like I know what
she's gonna say love thy neighbor and then she literally says it I'm like oh my gosh and then
she starts talking about the only people that are against uh pride month are a bunch of white people
and I yelled out you're white and then the mayor is like who said that I think he just looked right
at me I was trying to hide after he automatically figured we were responsible for that it's white
people like dude you're literally white yeah well you know what was difficult though because you
talk about the city council meeting it was really hard to sit there and listen to these freaks and
faggots and fags sympathizers get up to the mic and just wait you don't go there just to listen
to it was there really any sympathizers though there were a couple i seem like everyone maybe
they literally like that girl that girl was a sympathizer which daughter the daughter but is
she is she straight i don't i think she is okay she's i like how we just automatically if they're
if they're defending them it's just like the assumption is that they're fags themselves i
mean if it's a guy defending them for sure yeah well women can be more easily beguiled
maybe potentially women are like a lot of women fall for that stuff yeah like i have gay friends
or whatever well they're not going to do the dirty so nice they're not going to do the dirty
work of people like alex rosen and others yeah dateline your your buddy from date i like the
chris hansen dude that guy's honest like honest i did like his stuff but then i kind of i kind of
saw how he's a scumbag and shady who chris hansen oh yeah you should we should ask alex about him
he had he actually did uh it was like a zoom call with him basically and chris hansen did not like
him well hansen doesn't like here's the thing about chris hansen he doesn't like the youtube
predator catchers yeah like he doesn't it could be because he views them as competition i'm not
entirely sure oh yeah he does but he definitely doesn't agree with them and he he actually did
um it might have been entertainment tonight or one of these news shows and he did bury the youtube
guys and he was just like i don't think they should be doing it it's not safe they don't know
what they're doing i should i should be the only one doing it so i can have all the glory he he
talked bad about skeeter gene yeah i remember i know he's a friend of yours right yeah so he he
did he did talk badly about skeeter gene and i know he's not a fan but he does have some problems
in his personal life for sure oh 100 percent you know oh yeah it was funny chris hansen specifically
when he had so when he was talking to alex rosen uh the guy my friend is coming on here like he was
just kind of trashing him and then he's like didn't you say the n-word and uh because alex is
usually really really witty and alex didn't really like fire back at him i was like dude why didn't
you say didn't you cheat on your wife oh man that would have been so good he would he would have
canceled the whole thing and probably shut it off at that point didn't uh didn't alex go in and say
something about hillary clinton uh yeah he went into a hillary clinton it was like a rally or a
speech and he was uh talking about epstein i think i think is uh he lost a youtube channel too i
think yeah he's lost several but he has two he has i thought he had a big a bunch of channels he has
two one called mv cap and then pp it's just sounds funny pp southeast it's funny is that
youtube channel he lost was called chet gold yeah yeah yeah yeah it's a kind of hilarious
yeah thumbnail i don't know check gold i just i thought it was kind of a funny sounding name
interesting yeah yeah but it probably has nothing to do with this conversation whatsoever i mean
people that like gold and steins would not really like children i mean that's just never that's
just a coincidence um in fact you have a you have a character named marty epstein yeah what what's
going on with that any relation to uh jeff well that was the point well can i say i do want to
say on a serious note though and i'm not sure how much thought you put into what you say as
marty epstein or if you just kind of wing it yeah but and i'm seriously marty epstein is one of the
most accurate leftist satirical characters that i may have ever seen literally like this guy you
get the verbiage down you get the cadence down the way that he says it the whole the whole thing
about we need to protect our democracy yeah the slogans well when you hear these things so many
darn times it's pretty easy to do that because i remember it's like uh it's like ken hovind slides
there it is what's his what's his name justin trudeau would always talk about how uh welcome
to the club of going after hovind i just can make jokes okay i'm just kidding no he's always
talked about like protecting our democracy and stuff like that it's just like they speak
it's like in our democracy yeah they speak in meaningless platitudes that's what they do
because they're brain dead idiots somebody says that there was an australia report saying that
marty epstein was like a real person oh i heard that i heard about that they're like they can't
even tell anymore we don't we don't even know what is satire anymore ben well we i sent it i won't
use the guy's name and i don't embarrass him but i sent the video of marty epstein in front of a
gas station ranting to somebody in our own church and he responded like it was a legitimate liberal
like a like a real person so people fall for it and that is a testament to how
horrible the left has gotten like the fact that people can watch marty epstein and believe it's
real and not satire just shows you how crazy how insane liberals have become because it should be
obvious that this isn't real but you know truth is stranger than satire these days you know what
even uh funnier than than all of those things was our show last week so you need to make sure
and check out last week's stream call into the show if you'd like to 231 baptist uh hopefully a
little bit later on the show we're gonna be having alex rosen join us he's probably right now catching
a predator and uh doing something with him so uh but you know i don't know what he's doing
you know what i like about the alex rosen version is the fact that when he catches people
the cops then show up and then he's able to actually put some of these people behind bars
now of course i wish our government would do something else with these people but at least
you know he it's not just like hey i caught this predator and just released him back in the wild
because chris hansen he caught the same guy like two or three times i think it might have been
three times the exact same guy on the same kind of a uh basically charade of mcdonald's right
he caught him because he caught i think he came to the house i thought he caught a guy at the house
and then the second time he uh got him at mcdonald's and that was before they started
arresting him well and you know the crazy thing is when you watch alex uh rose in some of his clips
how much he gets these people to admit and i think he's he has a a method that he's using to extract
as much information as possible and it's kind of similar to what law enforcement use when they're
interrogating somebody they kind of have somebody play the good cop and another guy play the bad
cop and the good cop is supposed to make the criminal right feel trust they can talk to he
does i think we have a couple of videos of them getting arrested can we can we let's queue up one
of those i think either clip one or two has some of these people getting arrested yeah these are
very short but there's a few snippets that we could play let's play let's play one of these clips real
quick sure let's go for it okay so here's something i want to say real quickly the purpose of that
clip is just it's so funny how the cop told him like i you better not say one word or a simple
english okay and then the very next thing the predator does is talk and he just marches right
over there and arrests him oh man and something that he does that i think is really funny with
alex rosen pastor shelly is that he'll often tell the predators like oh i'm just calling a friend
don't worry about it everything's fine and then he'll dial 9-1-1 i'm just calling a friend don't
worry about it yeah i mean 9-1-1 what's your emergency i don't i again i don't know how he's
getting these people to confess everything but well you know what's funny i gotta say this real fast
forever get um he would say because he only says fried pickles as the code word basically for call
the cops to the person who's there that's right and i used to just think alex was hungry and he
was legitimately yeah he wants fried pickles like he orders he's pretending he's ordering food
that's what he does yeah but i was like because because when he would come over to my house bro
he's just eating everything so i'm like oh he's just hungry then i was like oh he might call the
cops i think we might even have a caller we do i don't know what the caller's name is yet nathaniel
nathaniel an israelite and indeed he's no guile yes a fellow israeli we found we found him it's
good to be with the brethren let's see if we can get him on the line uh nathaniel can you hear us
yeah can you hear me yeah how's it going good how are you doing great did you get to check our uh
last week episode yeah it was very interesting you know i was uh hooked on every moment what were
your thoughts about the show well i'll tell you i think pastor anderson completely exposed ken
hoeven on his nonsense and then when when he did then you know ken hoeven wanted to play the victim
card and then and then i find it ironic how he got mad and he's like you know it's late
when is this show going to be done because he was mad over pastor anderson exposing him well i mean
in all fairness he is in atlanta and pastor anderson's in arizona i think there's like a
three hour time difference between them so it's probably a little easier but i i i definitely get
your point there i it does it does seem like whenever he was being pressured he didn't really
bring any more information to the table i don't know if he was anticipating that what did you
think ben no i think that he didn't handle the pressure very well at all and i think that when
he's directly challenged on something and not necessarily prepared with his talking points to
respond that's where you see him out of his element and if you remember he said hey let's
schedule a debate and it was on the children of israel thing let's schedule a debate because
with a lot of these guys they they can't just kind of talk off the cuff they need to schedule
a debate and they need time to prepare their memorized points and stuff like that whereas
pastor anderson can kind of just go off the cuff and say what needs to be said because he actually
has you know the bible knowledge and things like that which the children of israel thing was bizarre
anyway like i don't get hovind's position on that was so weird you know i think he just completely
misunderstands that verse in galatians chapter three and it's easily solvable god confirmed the
covenant in genesis 46 and that's a separate deal from the the 430 number year number but anyway
uh nate he's still with us yeah yeah i think the whole moon thing that ken hovind brought up too i
think that thing was just ridiculous what is uh what were your thoughts about the idea of
the earth shooting off rocks and hitting the moon creating craters is that is that something your
your uh thinks plausible no i believe god created it how he created it and he created it for a
reason yeah i put a uh a poll out there i don't know if you had saw it but it was asking do you
think that the moon was created with craters or no craters i'll be honest i believe it was created
with is that something that you had thought prior thought about prior to our show or is that something
that you kind of thought about when you you're watching the show with us well i'll be honest i
never really thought about it i just knew that you know because i mean even the bible talks about how
god created you know everybody you know in a way where but like all the hairs on our head he knows
how many he knows the numbers of hair on our head right so i i knew that everything was created with
a significance but i never really thought about that until y'all brought it up on the show what
do you think about kind of the the idea that that pastor anderson had brought forth where the moon
may have like a hypothetical backstory to it that is connected to or related to rather the craters
that are on the moon i'll be honest i'm not educated enough on that um to talk about it well
you know the the moon being battered it kind of thinks like it kind of makes me think of it not
having really a backstory but maybe more like a black story kind of like a george floyd
pattern of history where you know maybe it's robbed uh pregnant ladies in the past and it
maybe has he was a change man from its history he was a changed man well he's sober how long has
he been sober he's been sober going on four years right now that's impressive and so preach
preach pastor you know i i think that that could be another alternative uh well i just got that
ben is our resident uh simite and so you know he's a little slow but we still love him anyways
thank you and comfort the feeble minded the bible says right yeah we got to have token diversity on
the show and so of course i don't want to be canceled so that's why i bring on c mites on
the show i brought diversity and black daniel series by the way some of the angel series some
of the stock footage that i used includes all different kinds of skin colors and races have
you seen our trailer nate on you got a gay uncle too right you don't hate you don't hate gays you
got the gay uncle you're like i promise i don't hate gay people my brother's gay did you uh did
you see our trailer for the daniel series nate i have not okay well we need to we need to play
that i wonder if we can get that uh teed up and maybe play our daniel series trailer we're gonna
actually after the season of the baptist bias we're gonna release the new daniel series it's gonna be
one episode per week pastor anderson filmed this several years ago and now we've gotten the
opportunity to get it uh all doctored up and and seamited up by ben over here and so we're
we're excited to be able to release this you know you know what it means and so we're excited to
release it thanks so much for calling in nate do you have anything else you wanted to to say before
we we we move on uh yeah i just have one more thing so about uh you know alex rosen the guy
who's about to join y'all one of my favorite things about his videos is when he gets on there
you know he's talking with these predators and like they'll bring these burritos to meet these
you know people and he'll just take the burrito and just start eating it and say you know like
thank you and stuff and just start eating the burrito like he just takes it out of their hand
or what yeah well no no like they like he goes oh is that for me and then they're like yeah yeah
i guess because they're just so embarrassed and they hand it to him and he just starts eating it
while he confronts them about it that's funny does he even tell them to bring a burrito or they just
always bring a burrito always i think he tells them i think he's hungry all the time like oh you know
yeah that's funny well thanks so much for calling in nate uh we're glad you you came on the show if
you want to call in three two one baptist three two one baptist and uh we have a couple other videos
that i want to share it's funny i was gonna say every time he comes over to my house he's always
on a diet he's always on a diet but then i see him in the video seeing a bunch of junk burrito diet
yeah i'm like okay i mean so i will have a diet like he's always traveling he because he drives
all around the country like to film his videos yeah so when you're you know when you're traveling
you're just kind of driving around you get bored you then you eat but then when he comes back here
he's on a diet for a couple days then he's on the road i watched him in one of his videos scarf
down like two burritos oh i've seen he does eating challenges sometimes it's crazy i believe it he
should do the one in amarillo there's a 72 ounce steak probably already did challenge i think there
was a guy in amara i think it was maybe amarillo i could be wrong it's that we were going to go
catch yeah i think you just typed it wrong but i said it right but 231 baptist 231 baptist if you
want to call in and be part of the show i sent you a clip is pretty this one of his older videos
but it is honestly i was cracking up because he catches this youth minister in flip-flops and
he's like running through walmart well let's see if we can play one of those clips do you have one
of those clips teed up for us uh let's let's try if we can play the one that uh is like the facebook
clip that i sent over to you i think cassidy wanted us to that's funny that was like one of
his first videos okay let's let me can you could play the um let's play our trailer let's do the
daniel trailer because i want i want to plug this for a moment okay because we haven't been
talking about it enough yet you see when it comes to taking a stand for god it starts with one
person there's a purposing in the heart where one man decides i'm not going to do it one person
takes a stand three other people say we're not going to do it either there will be people who
are beheaded for the cause of christ better be like daniel we better decide right now not to
compromise not to give in not to bow down to whatever the devil demands of us even now
if they can't take a stand now they ever take a stand during the tribulation we'll live godly
in christ jesus down for execution pray for boldness i can't help it i'm scared i'm a spirit of fear
but a boldness i'm planning to read in the bible i just don't know how to read you're thinking
about it well that's something you have in common master uh himen has been a little spicy there at
the end of our trailer i like that portion right there you know i like playing that trailer on our
show is because he's he's saying we need people to stand up against the evil tyranny out there
and and i like the idea that you know alex rosen and other people are willing to do something about
predators because i i think i watched a video or an interview where he was basically describing
i think the alex jones i think he was on alex jones's show he was basically describing why
he even did this as he just thought like i just want to try this and just see what happens and
then it kind of turned into a whole show and he's become pretty viral and i think he has a lot of
followers but he's just sick and tired of nobody catching predators or doing anything about it
and while be it it's not the biblical solution it's not a millstone around the neck and tossing
the sea it's still better than nothing yeah i mean how many predators has this guy caught dozens
right dozens and in fact one of them and you brought up that he he has a police presence
one of the predators he caught actually got 121 years sentenced to 121 they're gonna resurrect
his body after he died and make you know how many years is he gonna get in hell forever yeah he'll
get forever in hell and obviously we would much rather they get put to death i'd like them to get
shot with a scattered shotgun immediately after the interaction but there's a process and so
they actually should get a trial you know like slow painful torture yeah i mean stoning stoning
is the biblical thing so but isn't shooting a gun modern day stoning do you believe that or no
yeah it's effective stoning because it's obviously still lead or rock or whatever is being shot at an
incredible speed and uh shooting with a muscle whether that's the front of the head or the back
of the head you know it doesn't really matter entirely as long as it's just it's getting the
job done but obviously in all seriousness there should be a trial i get that but all i'm saying
is at the very least though they're getting some kind of punishment that they would not have
otherwise gotten if they hadn't ran into alex you know what helps them uh so all the people that he
catches pretty much probably 90 something percent of them they always have child pornography on them
oh man and they they admit to they admit to it he gets them to and because he catches these people
and like telegram groups and there's another group or another app uh gosh it's called what is the
people from the no people people from facebook too whatsapp whatsapp there's another one instagram
it starts with an s i think signal signal there's people that use signal and he catches them in
those groups he has all so many people just do like working what's crazy means how i can just
find people so easy like yeah but they live across the country apparently it's just like ramp it
though i mean just think about like i wouldn't even know where to start entirely to try and find
one of these predators and it seems like it's it's not even hard apparently to like at least lure
them um i mean i'm i'm kind of surprised at how easy it is it must mean that there's it's an
epidemic well you know what it seems like it seems like shooting fish in a barrel and that's sad and
i hope that i'm wrong but that's what it seems like based on the frequency of which this guy is
able to catch predators i also think that in texas it's not uh is a state that he has a hard time
getting the cops to do anything about isn't that true i mean to be honest it just depends which
city you're in but if they have child pornography on them it's like a guarantee they're gonna get
arrested in due time but if they don't have that then good luck i mean that's why when i used to
do the predator catches they never got arrested they didn't have that on them like i think so what
if they admit it what about when they admitted on camera or something did they count anything
that they came for uh 13 year old or whatever they've i've never seen him get arrested because
of that but there was a guy caught before and he had illegal drugs on him so he went to jail
because of that but but he admitted to everything on camera he admitted on camera that he's um that
he's done things with several 13 year olds oh man they won't do anything but that one that one's on
uh i think that one's on rumble it was me and alex caught the guy and the guy runs out of the house
and alex is chasing him uh in an alley in my neighborhood and he just starts roasting the
guy oh man and then he ends up getting arrested i just find it to be sickening and disgusting how
apathetic the police sometimes are in these situations not all the time but sometimes
they're just so apathetic like how dare you make us actually do any work today a lot of them are
freemasons too he was oh well a lot of police are freemasons too he was even telling me uh he or he
was talking to me about that and he was saying like some of them are just openly freemasons like the
guy had uh i think he was either a freemason uh like uh maybe it was like a thing on his bulletproof
vest it was just out in the open in freemason well brother os pointed out in in this text message
here from fbi.gov that apparently crimes against children there's a news section on the fbi.gov
website that shows that it's rampant that it happens every single day so the perception that
we're getting from some of these predator catchers on youtube because of the frequency
with which they're able to make these catches it seems to actually align with reality which is sad
yeah and you did you see there's a video from a long time ago it's somebody like went undercover
to like a gay bar yeah i saw and they basically just bag it bar they just pretended to be a
sodomite or something and so they're just striking up conversation with every single fag in there
and i'm pretty sure like to the guy's surprise every single person that he talked to admitted
to committing some type of pedophilia or to engaging in acts with children um do you do you
remember seeing a video i remember seeing a video uh just grotesque absolutely revolting video but
it exposes these dogs for who they are these degenerate dogs and they do admit over and over
again in the video that they engage in this depravity because pedophilia is part and parcel
of you know being a faggot like every single fag is a pedophile didn't the spring court rule even
not that long ago that you can't put child predators to death that the capital punishment
is no longer available for them i'm unaware of that i would that would have to be we should look
that up because i think i've heard that check that on the air and that's ridiculous like i feel like
the general populace is all on board tyrone like put in the death i think that almost all of the
world agrees like child predators should be put to death and then it's like do you realize that
they're over representing the lgbtq yes statistically that's true you also look at the
fact that they themselves are screaming it at the top of their lungs on the streets going up and
down the streets screaming that they want to come for our children you had the san francisco faggot
choir say that they want to propagandize our children and brainwash our children that they're
coming for the children as well well even decades before that there's the video package of the
baptist church in san francisco yeah where they were out there screaming we're coming for your
children and we want your children and that was aired on public national television yes a bunch
of sodomite it's always been this way and saying they want that and then you fast forward to 2024
and what's happening in libraries and schools across the country a literal faggot pedophile
degenerate freak in a dress reading to children they want to access the children to defile the
children it is right in front of all of our faces you have your head buried so far deep into the
ground if you don't see the connection between the lgbt and pedophilia yeah it's part and parcel
it's the same group and the bible also links another thing to this is false prophets and
fake religion i think you have a clip where alex rosen caught a mormon who was involved in this
nonsense and you know people don't realize they're like oh why are all the catholics a bunch of
predators and the mormons it's because they have fake religion folks because the catholic
church is a false religion it's a god-hating religion and even worse is the mormons who
are racist they wouldn't even let brian in the church and in 1978 they said i was good though
okay well let's see if we can play clip seven i used to be full black but i repented in my scene
oh that's good that's really good yeah maybe you can join the mormon tabernacle pretty soon
let's see if we can play uh clip number seven here okay so you knew this person to be potentially
11 years old and you're still asking that kind of stuff all right come talk to me over here real
quick yeah all good okay you can't just tell me that you need to go teach a english class i mean
you can you just tell me to go teach a english class when he's soliciting when you got somebody
you know the church has a bad reputation already and you're letting this happen i know you didn't
know it was happening but when you find out it is you don't say okay well you're just inconveniencing
us we got to go that's a horrible look for the church man that's the society's already getting
too godless anyway we're not what religion you i'm not actually mormon dude but no matter what
religion you are dude it's getting too godless where there's no morals going around and that's
okay so just to provide some more context a mormon is caught trying to solicit an 11
year old an 11 year old all right that other mormon who uh he was like like is this like a
fag relationship too or do you know it's a it's a girl it's a 11 year old girl but the the guy that
he was rebuking in that clip that alex was rebuking in that clip he was rebuking him
because when the guy was exposed when his buddy when his mormon buddy was exposed as a pedophile
this other elder whatever you want to call him he tells alex this is an inconvenience we have a
class to go teach could you just leave us alone like that was his reaction to finding out it's
inconvenient getting caught that you're yes that was his reaction to finding out that his fellow
mormon was a pedophile well you know 11 that makes me think of uh when i went and knocked on some
doors and i ran into a muslim and i told them that their prophet muhammad had been with a
nine-year-old aisha six i thought well he married her when she was six okay and then supposedly he
consummated the marriage three years later that's so much more knows you know let's just say it's
nine and i remember telling this guy hey that you think that's cool and she's like she wasn't nine
she was 11 oh my goodness because why is that good he's 50 years old and she's 11 and you
think that that's normal and he's he's just like well everybody in the bible is a pedophile and
just like no that was disgusting i mean this is coming from muslims so again fake religion
apparently defends pedophiles yeah and our government it used to be normal it used to be
normal yeah it's gonna be normal in hell because it's gonna be filled with pedophiles but it's not
gonna be normal here on earth that's gross i'm glad that you know again i don't even know is
alex even religious at all uh he's not religious yeah he's not religious but even he can recognize
how terrible these people are in these fake religions and you know it just gives christ a
bad name because these people pretend like they are of the church of jesus christ it's the church
of jesus christ no it's not it's the church of lucifer mormons worship the devil mormons are not
godly i like how he said your church kind of already has a bad reputation it's like everybody
i think most people recognize today that mormons are bad i think yeah even if you're not religious
or christian or anything like that or you're not involved in the spiritual fight at all you
recognize there's something weird about mormons oh yeah there's something off about it when i
wasn't even saved i knew like mormons were a bunch of bull crap i knew um uh jehovah's witness were
weird catholicism seemed weird i remember one time i was just i like this girl so i went to
a catholic church with her i didn't even know at first she's just like oh i just want to go to
church so i went to the catholic church and i just thought it was so weird i was like this is really
boring too well yeah it's just these weird rituals and and all the rest of it second peter chapter
two which talks about false prophets also says but these as natural brute beasts made to be taken and
destroyed speak evil of the things that they understand not and shall utterly perish in their
own corruption i just wanted to make that connection that you brought i know that brother uh os loves
mormons i think we have several other callers on the line i want to see if we can get brother phil
on the line let's see if we can get some of his thoughts brother phil can you hear us
yeah i can hear you can hear me yeah loud and clear how's it going going good going to a great
show tonight guys so where are you calling from phil i'm in my truck i'm at the um i'm getting a
rental car right now for work but just listening to the show and you guys are bringing us interesting
topics hey i was thinking i got a couple questions though real quick go for it first question is um
do you all think that they're going to end up maybe not making it a crime to possess child
pornography or you know not making pedophilia a crime or lessening the crime you know uh do you
think that's possible that you know it'll have to happen you know i think it will but do you think
it'll happen in our lifetime that they'll do that i don't know i think that there's definitely
obviously there's plenty of people that would love for that to happen but you know actually recently
in texas uh ken paxton had passed legislation going uh against just pornography in general
and i believe the main website like the top pornography website has actually stopped
servicing texas as an entire state in like kind of response or in spite of some of the legislation
that's being proposed or uh maybe it's a lawsuit that was being brought against some of these
issues so you know that's actually kind of a positive sign i don't know i mean obviously
california is usually the first to go off into the wild on these issues i'm sure that they would
love to uh the politicians and the pedos that are peddling this garbage because that's apparently
the only reason they go to jail anymore so i'm sure that they would love to go after that i don't
know if it's going to be realized obviously i think we need to keep pushing back i don't think that
the populace would want it i mean ben what do you think about legislation on this issue do you think
that's a reality or yes and here's why because we're already seeing evil filthy depraved people
in the media normalizing this i think the fact that fag queen story time is a thing and that
it's been normalized in society is proof that we're heading down that road i think the fact
that they're putting literal pedophile books in public school libraries and even just regular
libraries across the country pedophile books literally depicting grotesque filth it's available
for children right now they're normalizing it it's happening and not to mention the media
salon.com ran an article a number of years ago and they were defending a pedophile named
Todd Nickerson and the headline said that this person is not a this person is a pedophile
but not a monster they even tweeted that out that this pedophile is not a monster direct quote so
yes it's happening culturally it's happening in the media and eventually it'll happen legislatively.
Brian you got any ideas on that? Uh so I'm gonna be a hundred with you I think too many people
gonna be against it so I don't think it'll happen like I think it's like a small kind it's crazy as
it sounds that yeah it's kind of like a small minority of people that would agree with it like
too many people would be against it and I think it wouldn't work. Yeah I mean I think that is
possible like I think it would be plausible that maybe one of these really really liberal states
maybe like a Vermont or perhaps like a Colorado or maybe even California you could see something
weird happening there. I think a lot of these conservative states it's probably never gonna
happen like Oklahoma or Iowa or Idaho it's probably very unlikely I think that it would
happen there. Well here's the thing about that though with the way that the Republican party
follows the Democratic party just 10 years behind who the hell knows it might be the
conservative position to believe well they have to at least give consent first like that that
could be where we end up one day with how depraved the society is and how the Republican party just
follows the Democrats off a cliff. Well they'll just call it art and love. This is what I was
going to say Republicans are going to be like this they're going to be like okay look we are
against pedophiles but grooming is not a crime okay they're not pedophiles they're just grooming.
Well they might say that the children want. At least they consent. I mean the children if the
children as long as they said that they wanted to be in the video then it's not a big deal or
something. I mean I don't know I think if it was going to happen it would have to be a liberal
state who essentially brings the legislation on and then it raises to like a supreme court issue
and then a bunch of liberals on the supreme court make it kind of like a roe v. Wade issue
and overturn like all the legislation in the country. Other than that I don't think that
conservative states would ever pass such legislation. I think it'd be such an unpopular
legislation that I don't see it happening. You had another question for us brother Phil?
Yeah, yeah, it was about the moon thing. I just want to bring up again.
Sound like that's the question is the craters on the moon is specific is only for to show a parent
age. Or do you think there's like a spiritual connection to it? Because you know, we have
rainbows, God gave us the rainbow. And yeah, I think there's obviously a scientific reason
why rainbows can occur and happen. But you know, we do have a spiritual significance
for the rainbows. And I remember a sermon that you preach and you talked about how to moon,
you know, doesn't have its own light, it's only shining back the light that it gets from the sun.
And, you know, I was just thinking that the moon could possibly I'm just spitballing here. Well,
I mean, I think I said this before, but the moon can represent maybe us and the craters can
represent our sin. And you know, the reason why we can be beautiful and pleasing to look at is
because we're getting the light from the sun. I'm just curious, like, like, what do you think about
the craters? Do you think it's just a parent age or do you think there's maybe an also spiritual
connection with it? Well, I would say this, I really like the parallel that you drew there.
I would say that I don't know that it's necessary to apply both of the things that you just said,
because number one, whether or not the moon was created with craters or got craters shortly
afterwards would not discount what you just said. So I want to make it clear like it wouldn't matter
if someone agrees that the craters were on the moon day one or day 50. It would still, I think,
probably represent the point that you're making. And in fact, I would almost say this because I
actually really like what you said, but if it was a perfect representation, then you would almost
probably have to argue instead of the moon had zero craters to start with, almost signifying how
Adam and Eve had no sin, and then sin was brought in after the fall and then they need the light to
basically cover their sin. Because I agree that it's like when it's lit up, all you see is just
the reflection of the light and it's kind of like Christ's righteousness coming upon us, imputed
righteousness, and it covers up our scars and issues. And without that light, you see this
battered moon and that kind of could represent humanity's downfall or sin. I really like that
parallel. I think that's a cool parallel. I think it's probably true. I mean, it sounds right to me,
but I don't know that it necessarily is a proof or evidence for apparent age or necessarily that
the praetors were on the moon day one because of that particular spiritual truth. What do you think
about what I'm saying on, are those definitely connected or do you think they're kind of separate?
No, I think they're separate ideas. I think one could hold to the position that the moon was
created with no craters and also accept that spiritual picture that Brother Milstead brought.
What do you think about that picture? I like the picture a lot. I don't see a problem with it and
to me when it comes to pictures, types, symbolism, things like that, I'm very open to accepting them
as long as they don't contradict something in the Bible and this one certainly doesn't so I'm on
board with it. He about to steal it for his next sermon. Yeah, I mean do black people even believe
in the moon or how does that work? The moon, uh yeah, yeah. When are they gonna send a black
person to the moon? I mean I feel like that's racist. That's what I'm saying bro, hella racist, hella racist.
Because I know they have Chinese people. Why they gotta be sending white people to the moon bro?
Why are the African countries not sending people to the moon all the time? Racism bro.
Do they even? I'm not saying anything on that one. I heard that uh. I don't think they're sending a
lot of sea mites up there either. That's true. Oh nah, they send them. Well the magic carpet,
can they use a magic carpet to get up there? No, the Arabs, I'll just tell you as an Arab,
they're too busy. Wait, you're Arab? Excuse me? You're Arab? Yes. I thought you were Jewish.
One of the comments says that black people can only go to the dark side of the moon, so
they can't be on the light side. Wow. Wow. Did you have any other? Thanks for calling in Phil. Do
you have any other questions before we let you go? Next, sir. Just some other thoughts, but they
don't really kind of apply to what y'all thought. No, that's okay, go ahead. I was thinking like
interstellar travel, you know, like if it is possible, would God even allow us to even get
that far for mankind to be able to do something like that? I know that, you know. Well, is going
to the moon, does the moon count? The carnal man has this desire, well, I mean, I'm just thinking
that the carnal man has a desire to live forever. And it just sounds like, you know, in all these
movies that come out with sci-fi, they're always trying to leave the earth because the earth is
leaving and all these, you know, it just feels like carnaly mankind just doesn't want, they're
fearful, they want to leave the earth for some reason. You know, is it possible, you know, I
know we're just kind of just kind of foolish thought, but would God even allow mankind to even
be capable of interstellar travel? Well, I would say that I think that anything's possible just
because it seems like God is preventing mankind from some of his creations or inventions with the
Tower of Babel. It seems like God's trying to hold humanity as a whole back from certain technologies
or certain timelines. So I think that, you know, when it comes to travel, I think a trip to Mars
is probably feasible. It's probably possible. The question is like, do people really want to go?
It's going to take, it would cost so many resources, so much money to travel to Mars.
Plus then once you get there, literally anything that goes wrong will kill the astronauts or kill
the space explorers out there. Creating a habitat or terraforming more Mars I think is just kind of a
fan fiction. It's not so much that in my opinion, it's impossible. It's more like impractical.
It's like you would have to spend so much time, money, effort, energy and have everybody rallied
around. And right now we have Joe Biden as our president. I mean, we're not accomplishing a lot.
I don't feel like we're building back better with Joe Biden as our president. So I would say it's
more of just a he was just sitting down eating fried chicken with the black family. I mean,
Joe Biden loves children too. He does. You know what? You know what? I think that Alex Rosen,
I hope that his next video he catches Joe Biden. Now he'll be at the White House inauguration.
That'll be the best predator catch. Yeah, all of them. I could just see Joe Biden coming with
an ice cream cone and then Alex takes the ice cream cone. You know, you know what the Trump,
the Trump people would say about like, if you mentioned Trump and Epstein, they'd be like,
well, Trump only went after the 13 year olds at least. Clinton went after like the eight year olds.
Trumpstein, you know, there you go. Trump didn't know, bruh. Actually, he was playing 5D chess,
my bad. Well, you know, when it comes to landing on the moon, where do you fall on this, Phil?
I'm putting you on the hotspot. Yeah, I'm sure, but I don't really care. I kind of like,
I take the view of Patrick Anderson, like, you know, it really doesn't matter to me,
you know, if we did it, if we did it, it doesn't make any difference on what I'm going to do
tomorrow or what I'm going to do in 50 years. So, probably, but it wouldn't surprise me.
If you were offered by Elon Musk a free trip to the moon, would you do it?
Absolutely. I mean, who wouldn't want to see a big, beautiful blue ball?
You did, you did. As long as there's no pedophiles sitting there.
You still want to be the teacher. What is it, Challenger? Wasn't the Challenger 11 or something?
Or Apollo? What was, one of the Apollos exploded when the teacher got a free trip to the moon?
That's news to me. You don't, you've never heard of that?
No. It's Columbia? Columbia, Space Shuttle Columbia.
I can't remember what the name of the Space Shuttle was, but there was a teacher who was,
got the opportunity to take a trip to the moon and the Space Shuttle literally exploded very
shortly after liftoff. He knew too much.
Someone in the chat room. And then someone said in the chat
that she actually knew Hillary Clinton. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Where? I didn't see that. I said he knew too much.
Someone in the chat wants us to get Hulk Hogan as a guest. That'd be awesome.
It was, yeah, it was the challenger, like I said. So it was Sharon, Krista,
and I don't know how to say her last name. McOfflife. I'm sorry, I don't know how to say
her last name, but it says she died on the Space Shuttle Challenger.
The ship exploded or something? What happened to it?
Yeah, I mean, it was like, it was broadcast on national television. It was live on national
television and it was 1986. So she was 37. It's basically my age and she died like right before
I was born. January 28th, 1986, this female teacher who was on the Challenger, it went up
and it exploded just minutes. It might even have been seconds. It was very quickly.
It was really sad because the broadcasters didn't even know what to say. They're just like,
"That's not good." It's really sad. It's kind of difficult to watch.
Well, thanks for bringing the mood down on the show. I was having fun.
After that, would you take a free trip to the moon, then?
Yeah, I still would do it.
Okay.
Why not?
That's crazy. What about this? If they said, "We're going to give you a free trip to the moon,"
you can just go around it and see it or you could actually take the craft down
and try to land and walk. What would you opt for?
I get to land it?
No, but you actually are going to go on the craft that's going to land on the moon
and you're going to actually walk on it.
I'd love to walk. Yeah, of course.
Are you going to walk on the moon, Phil?
I think he's gone.
Yeah, I'd walk on the moon.
Bounced around.
Are you going to play golf? Are you going to do something unique?
What would you do? You're on the moon. They put you live for the whole world to see.
What are you going to say?
John 316. That's what I'm saying.
That's, amen. There you go. That's a great one.
I mean, how could we argue that?
I was thinking, you know, let's go Brandon or something.
No, I'm kidding.
Wow. What does that mean?
Well, thanks guys. I gotta go. Thanks a lot.
Yeah. Thanks for calling in.
Yeah. God bless. Have a good night. I think we have a couple other callers.
Let's see if we can get another one. I think Alex might be joining us pretty soon, hopefully.
Let's see if we can get one of those other callers.
Do you know who we have?
Yes. Up next.
Mr. Caller.
Oh, Preston.
We have Preston. Let's get Preston on the line.
Let's go to Preston from, I believe, North Carolina. Is that right?
Yep. North Carolina.
Hey, how's it going, Preston?
I'm good. How are y'all doing?
Doing great. Did you get to see our show last week?
Oh, yeah. I loved it. I'm a big science guy, so I enjoyed it.
Science guy? You do that for a living, just a hobby or what?
Well, I used to be an agnostic, and I was really into evolution, and I wanted to be a physicist,
which, you know, that's a whole other story. That's my whole testimony there.
And of course, Kent Hoeven was actually influential in helping me out of that worldview.
How long ago was that?
Back in 2014. I got saved in 2014, and so, yeah, some of his seminars and stuff kind of
poked a lot of holes in the evolutionary worldview, and so that led me to go to church,
and I went to church and eventually heard a gospel presentation and got saved.
That kind of changed the whole course of my life, though, so now I'm interested in
preaching and soul winning and all that stuff, so I kind of let go of the physicist idea.
Well, I'm interested. So you saw some of his videos. How did you end up getting saved?
Well, so the stuff that he put out, it kind of just made me question—it made me start thinking
that God could be real and that evolution was garbage, so it didn't make me be a Christian,
but it helped me get on that path, and so I started really looking into it and, of course,
started looking into the resurrection and stuff, and so the historical evidence of the resurrection
made me just kind of blow my mind, and so it made me just want to go to church and figure that out,
and I had no idea how to get saved, and nobody ever told me, and that was a whole long thing,
waiting for somebody to tell me how to get saved, and I went to a church camp at an old IFB church,
and one of the camp counselors just was giving us a little teaching on how to get somebody saved,
and I'm just sitting there learning the gospel for the first time, and I'm like,
"Wow, this is really interesting." And so I called on the Lord right there and got saved,
and ever since then, I've been soul-winning. That's great. That's awesome. See, I think that
sometimes we don't always anticipate where people are at on their spiritual journey,
and so it's great that other churches can just scoop people along and just get them saved,
because that's obviously the most important thing. What about the show itself? What were
your thoughts about some of the discussion points that were brought up?
Oh yeah, so I thought it was kind of interesting. I didn't know that this was going to be the topic.
I don't know if you've all seen it, but this new documentary series came out this week,
and it's kind of gone viral because it's going into Nickelodeon, which is, I'm sure you're all
familiar with Nickelodeon. It's a really popular children's TV stuff, and as a kid, I watched
Nickelodeon all the time, and so this documentary series was uncovering a lot of child abuse that
was going on towards the child actors, and Drake Bell, who is some, I don't even know, but he was
one of the child actors at the time, and he was basically coming out and talking about how he got
sodomized when he was a kid on the, well, before he filmed Drake and Josh, it was a really popular
show. How old was he, did they say? He was 15, and so what was really interesting, me and my wife
looked at each other at the same time because his dad was on the documentary talking about how he
saw the signs in this guy, how he was being really weird towards his son, and he kind of threw a fit
about it, and he actually reported him and said that, "You don't want this guy anywhere near his
kid," and they told him, "Oh, well, you don't know this, but he's a homo, so maybe you're just a
homophobe," and, you know, so, you know, he kind of got ostracized and became an outcast for being
homophobic, and, well, you know, his fears came true, you know, he ended up brutally and violently
molesting him, you know, for, I don't know how long, but, and he actually got convicted, but the
sad thing was, you know, the document just covers all of this, that, you know, he got convicted,
he pled guilty, had a full confession, and it was really violent, you know, whatever the court
documents describe, and he only got like 16 months in jail, and then he ended up back being on,
you know, working with like Disney and stuff like that, and he had like a whole bunch of these
popular celebrities supporting him and all this stuff, but yeah. Is this part of the documentary
or is this just related? Yeah, no, it's all in the documentary. Because I thought I saw some
promotion for it and they had like maybe Amanda Bynes, is that, is she in that documentary? They
talk about her a lot. She's not in it, but they talk about her a lot. It's called Quiet On Set,
The Dark Side of Kids TV. We need Alex to go catch some of those people. There's a lot on there.
She said he's going to be on in about, so now about 10, 10 more minutes. We should have told
them the show starts at eight. I'm just kidding. It's definitely not a fundamental Baptist
production obviously, but yeah, it definitely covers a lot of that. I want to mention real quick,
in the mid-2000s when the original To Catch a Predator was on the air, they did catch someone
that worked at Nickelodeon. So I think it just goes to show you that that culture probably existed
for a long time. Well, didn't the show end with him catching some high-profile person and they
like, the person killed themselves in their house? Texas DA. Was that like a politician or something
like that? A Texas DA? Or a lawyer? The district attorney killed himself at his home. I think it
was the assistant DA, but then his sister ended up suing the network. Was it NBC? What was the
NBC? Dateline NBC was the original. And to me, you know, Hanson has done some things subsequently
but has never matched, I think, the original Dateline NBC. Nah, nope. Doesn't compare at all.
Like that the production quality and everything doesn't even come close. Hey, well you know,
Eddie's old. He's like 60 something. It's like, come on, dude. I'm just glad that people are
being exposed in Florida because Florida has got some crazy people. I actually went to,
so when I was young, I would always go to Walt Disney World and my sister would take me down
there with her family. She's a lot older than me so they would go and visit. And they have a
Nickelodeon studio as part of, I think that they have, there's like Walt Disney World but then
there's like a Universal Studios is like another theme park that's there and they have like a
Nickelodeon section and they were always filming for like shows or something. They would be like
test shows and I remember I got to go on one of their shows and then I actually got picked to be
the kid that was like in the main show and then I got slimed on this like Nickelodeon show or
whatever and so it's kind of weird but you know there is some good things still in Florida.
I saw in the chat someone wanted to plug their pastor, pastor Theo Matthews of Abiding Word
Baptist in Jacksonville Florida and that was actually a church plant that we had started a
long time ago. Now it's got its pastor and you know their pastor is more than two percent black
so that's that's great. He's full. Shout out to pastor Matthews out there. Shout out to pastor
Matthews. I went to church with him. That's a brother, that's a brother. You know he sounds
way more white than Brian over here so. That's true. But he's a brother. I went to church with
him for a few years. He's a white man trapped in a black man's body. Good to get a shout
out to pastor Matthews. So now are you going, what kind of church are you going to now Preston?
Are you going to that same old IFB church or? We drive four hours to Stronghold. Oh wow.
That's what we do. My wife is currently pregnant with our third so we're kind of going up here
in North Carolina. But we're hoping to move to Atlanta soon. Recommendation, don't get
a babysitter on care.com. We had an employee on earlier on the show and he sounded kind
of liberal so what do you think Ben? I think he sounded like somebody who needs to just
walk off the edge of the flat earth immediately. So now you're a flat earther or what? I just
exposed myself. When it benefits him he's a flat earther. Oh man. Well thanks so much
for calling in Preston. Glad that you shared us that information about the Nickelodeon.
Apparently there's predators literally everywhere. Yeah I have one more question. Is that okay?
Yeah go for it. It was just about the moon. No I'm just kidding. Everybody wants to ask
about the moon. No I appreciate your sense of humor. Thanks Preston for calling in. You
have a great night. I think we still have at least one more caller. We might get to
another caller here. We have a Mike. Let's see if we can get Mike on the phone. He's
actually Florida man. So we actually literally have a Florida man. I think he was just done
wrestling a gator. Mike, can you hear us? Yeah, Pastor Shelley. How you guys doing?
Good. How are you? I'm doing good. Hey, I just wanted to just talk about two things
real quick. I'll get off the line. No, go for it. One, you did a sermon the other day
that I had to pause because I had to wait for it to go to the gym because it was like
so good. It's like one of those gym sermons. So it was the, what are you doing sermon?
And I just want to say thank you for that. That was awesome. I listened to it at the
gym. I like the sermon. Uh, it was a good deal. And then, uh, back to the stoning or
stoning or shooting. I'm for the stoning. And this is the reason why I believe that
it can be like a community event. It gets like all the men in the community involved.
So when you like, you know, that gets proven guilty, you're still in them. It's like a
kind of puts the men's like, like money where their mouth is. So everyone gets involved
and becomes a community event. Kids can see their dad taking initiative to go, you know,
do justice. I think the stoning is like, I'm all about the stoning.
Well, you know, what's another good aspect of this is it would help us catch more fags
because when we see them throw like a girl, we'll know who to stone next.
Yes. Couldn't agree more.
I like the community event. I mean, we need, we need men to work out again and be strong.
And obviously the women aren't going to bash their heads in like the men will. But, you
know, I think that Ben would be a little too excited about that. I think we would see the
inner terrorists come out and, uh, you know, 9/11 was enough. I don't think we need any
more 9/11s.
There were Lebanese involved in 9/11. I just want to say that first of all. Second, there
may be Arabic that you hear during this event.
That might be the one time I am okay with the Quran coming out. "Slay them!" However
that's worded in Arabic. How do we say that in Arabic?
"Tillun."
Tillun! It sounds like Dillon. I guess Dillon and Tillun, they have this rhyme or something.
Oh man. Thanks so much for calling in Mike. Watch out for all those gators out there.
I don't know, he's gone.
He got super offended by that comment right there.
No, that's okay. I like Mike's idea. I like the community event. I was actually thinking
about doing a leadership class for a church where all the guys go and do some activities
and I never thought about communal stoning. You know, that's definitely an interesting
activity.
As one of the activities?
Well, probably spiritually.
Spiritually.
Because I have some names to submit.
In Minecraft. In Minecraft, we would go out there and do that kind of an activity together.
Sounds good to me.
It'd be a lot of fun.
Well, we want to make sure, you know, you want to check the show out every week. We're
going to try and do a full season. We've got a lot of other guests, but I want to remind
you we're going to be doing the Daniel series immediately following the Baptist bias and
it's going to be on our other rumble channel, the steadfast Baptist church channel. That's
where you can even listen to the sermon. I didn't plug it. Mike plugged it for us. What
are you doing sermon? Um, I was, I think the most recent sermon that we have on our rumble.
You can check it out. And, uh, sometimes you just have to ask people like Ben, like, what
are you doing? What are you doing, Ben? It's a good question. I asked myself that question
a number of times during your sermon. So every once in a while, there's a sermon that really
just hits you home and you're just like, dang, I got to reevaluate some things. And that
was one of them. I think that sometimes it's, you know, sermons like that. It's helpful
for me too. Like I'm, I'm just thinking about like what I need or what would help me and
just kind of thoughts that I have. And then I just, you know, it helps me to kind of
preach with a little bit of passion because, because the reality is, is like everybody
needs a good kick in the pants. Everybody needs reminded. And again, the sermon was
for us to all constantly reflect on what's going on. And let's ask America that question
about predators and about pedophiles. What are you doing? Like, why are we having literal
sodomites and predators and pedophiles? I mean, there are parades going up and down
in America in this country recently with people just exposed naked with children. There's
drag queen story hours going on all over the country. There's literal sodomites in Texas
bars with children. That happened very recently. There's all kinds of just books that are just
literal child pornography being put in the schools where children are. I mean, someone
needs to stand up to this junk. Someone needs to say something. I just, I keep getting canceled
for what we say and the movies that we make, but it just, it makes me so angry to think
that other men of God aren't doing anything about it. And then you have people like Alex
Rosen, who's not even a fundamental Baptist pastor, not even necessarily that religious,
even he can recognize, hey, this stuff is junk. Someone needs to do something about
it. It's kind of embarrassing and a shame when other churches don't even have any kind
of stance, won't talk about it, won't deal with this issue. I mean, what's going on with
these other churches, Ben? Well, they're too busy rolling out the red carpet for them.
Oh, direct quote from Charles Lawson in Tennessee. You have churches that are too busy opening
their doors and welcoming these predators into their church and preaching soft, saying,
like John Getch said, that there's no room for a crude or vile attitude toward these
people. How in the world could you look at the news, look at what's going on right now?
Look at how they're bragging about wanting to come after our children and then get behind
God's pulpit and say something like that, and say that there's no room for a crude or
vile attitude. It makes me wonder about you. It makes me wonder about some of these preachers
who refuse to stand up and say what needs to be said about this issue. If you can't
find it in your heart to speak the truth, to defend children, to defend the most innocent
lives among us, there's something wrong with you. There is something seriously wrong with
you. Well, it's the Marathon episode, but I have no problem. We've been doing really
good. Lots of viewers. Still have lots of engagement. We even have another caller, Logan.
Let's see if we can get Logan on the line. Hey, Logan, can you hear us? Hello? Hey, how's
it going? Good. How you guys doing? Doing great. Where are you at, Logan? Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania. Nice. You know where Hershey Park is? I've heard of it. I've never visited
the state, so I'm not very familiar. Is everything made of chocolate? Pretty much, yeah. It's
pretty great. That was funny, wasn't it? You're hilarious. You should do like a monologue
to start our show. What the hell wrong with somebody else needs to write it? Did you get
to check our show last week, Brother Logan? I did, yes. I knew I was going to enjoy it.
It's going to be a good show based on the topic and your guests. By the way, you did
a great job getting those two guests together and trying to really persuade Pastor Anderson
to come on. But I knew I was going to enjoy it and I was kind of sitting back on my sofa
watching it with my wife. And man, as soon as Pastor Anderson started really digging
into Ken Hoeven, I did not expect that at all. I was like on the edge of my seat after
that because I did not expect the hostility. And definitely after Pastor Anderson explained
why he didn't want to be like associated with Ken Hoeven as like a potential friend or something.
And I don't know, it was posted on YouTube or something before one of his church services
I think.
Yeah, I think it's not his rumble. Well, the podcast last week was the catalyst for
at least segments of two different sermons this last week. You had Pastor Anderson address
it a couple of times at his church, once in the announcements and another one this past
Sunday morning when he preached about people who just can't ever admit that they're wrong.
And then Pastor Mejia also referred to our podcast in his sermon this past week.
Yeah, Pastor Mejia was really nice. He said that it was the first Baptist Bias episode
he's ever watched in entirety. So it was a nice double burn.
Hey, you know what? I took that as a compliment.
Hey, you know what? If we can get him to watch our show, you know, there you go.
All it takes is Pastor Anderson rebuking somebody.
But see, Logan's our fan. See, Logan actually likes us and he wants to be, he actually watches
our show.
Well, Logan, here's my impression, and you tell me if you agree, but I feel like one
of the reasons, I'm not saying this is the only reason, but one of the reasons that Pastor
Anderson perhaps came into that interview guns blazing was just to make it clear that
he's not Kent Hoeven's friend, that they're not in fellowship and that he's not okay with
him.
Where did you get that idea? I'm just messing. Did you have any of that backstory? Did you
know anything going into the show last week or were you just kind of caught off guard
by the demeanor? What was your thoughts about watching it live?
I know Pastor Anderson. I've listened to hundreds of sermons. I've met him in person. In 2020,
I went to the missions conference. I knew his character and everything. I did not expect
that. I know how he's preached against Ken Hovind concerning marriage and divorce. I
just thought it was going to be more of like a, I'm not saying it wasn't uncivil, but more
of like a civil kind of conversation, but it was great. I mean, I didn't expect that.
It was great. I enjoyed it.
Well, here's a question because he always kind of, Pastor Anderson specifically seems
to be very negative on debates or these kinds of discussions and everything, but it seems
like he's really good at it. I mean, isn't that your kind of, what is your impression?
Yeah, he's definitely pretty good at it. Obviously he knows his stuff. So maybe he's
just being a little bashful about it.
I think he's just being humble and maybe just kind of reserved on that particular issue.
But he definitely, he seems very skilled at communicating in general and he's pretty quick
on his feet. I think that if he was in that environment, he would do really well. But
I think the only problem for him, number one, he hates debates. And then number two, though,
I think a lot of people would be afraid to challenge him. What do you think, Ben?
I think that's the biggest hindrance to it is people that just refuse to actually have
that discussion openly with him on any kind of platform because inherently they know that
they will get destroyed.
You know what I was going to say real quick?
Go for it.
Because you know how Pastor Anderson doesn't do debates? Jeff Durbin, a while back, challenged
Pastor Anderson to a debate, but it's obviously because he knows he won't do it.
Yeah, but Durbin is just like a gross, gross individual.
They did a whole podcast just trashing Pastor Anderson. And one of the main things was like,
he doesn't believe in repentance. It's so clear he rejects the message of Paul and Jesus
and Peter.
Would you debate Jeff Berbin if you had the chance?
I don't know. I mean, I'm not like that interested in that at all. I think it would only be just
because he has an audience, it might be interesting to just have the conversation. Again, I'm
not that down on debates just because I feel like I personally have watched a lot and I've
kind of, it's given me maybe a little bit of zeal or it's inspired me to like research
more. And that was kind of the goal of last week's show. I don't know, Logan, did you
feel like last week's show maybe inspired you to research things more or think about
things more or did you just purely enjoy it? What was kind of your thoughts about the show?
Definitely pure enjoyment, but also obviously to earn more. I love science. Science is great
and fun and it's awesome to learn these things, especially having a Christian perspective
on it and understanding it, how it should be understood.
Have you watched very many debates or is that something that you've even been interested
in at all?
Not really. I've only watched Ken Hogan's debates like a while back before jail as you
said.
I used to be completely against them but I've evolved on that issue and kind of gotten a
little more balanced because I feel like there is a time and a place for it, first of all,
and second, it depends on the opponent and the topic.
Well, you know the Bible does talk about earnestly contending for the faith and I would be curious
how that applies because when I go soul winning, I'm not really trying to contend with people.
I'm more trying to just talk to people who are receptive.
It seems like soul winning is not very productive when you're contending and really battling
someone, but in general, I think that Jesus did a lot of contending in public and Paul
did a lot of contending in public for the saves benefit, not necessarily for that individual,
but rather just to get the ideas out there and kind of expose the frauds for who they
are.
The book of Acts has plenty of examples of this where they're in the temple contending
over the gospel, the Lord Jesus Christ.
So the right time, the right place, the right opponent, I don't see an issue with it at
all.
I think there's actually a lot of benefit.
I would just like, for me personally, I'm not a big fan of debating atheists.
That's my opinion.
I don't really think that that's profitable, but I do like, you know, King James only,
for example, or those kinds of topics.
I think the problem with debating, like to me, I wouldn't be against debating an atheist
if the conversation is not really about atheism specifically.
You know, again, like with Dr. Hoeven's debates, he was debating a lot of atheists, but it
was specifically over issues of geology or biology.
It wasn't like really about atheism per se, because I think atheism is maybe a little
too far removed to where even if you win the argument, it doesn't really change anybody's
life because it's like, oh, now I'm a theist, what does that even mean?
Yeah, that's what I'm referring to is the idea of like, let's have a debate over, does
God exist?
But again, if it's over a specific topic where winning them over could have some kind of
actual practical benefit, but again, I think the vast majority of people already believe
God exists, so it's like, you're kind of just debating against people that are willingly
ignorant at that point.
Even atheists who say they don't believe in God when they're alone, they do, they're
like, "God help me."
Yeah, they'll admit it.
They'll say that, atheists will say like, "I've prayed before," or they'll say that
"I think about God," yeah.
There's no atheists in hell either, so yeah.
That's probably a better thing.
Did you have any other questions or thoughts you wanted to share with us, Brother Logan?
Yeah, so I wanted to ask about Alex Rosen.
I've never heard of him before or seen any of his content, but has he ever worried about
his physical safety during these things?
That was a question I wanted to ask him, actually, at some point, if he can come up.
Yeah, I think we need to set that down or write that down and maybe we can ask him while
we're on the show.
I would assume yes, but again, I have no idea.
He's actually a pretty young guy, so I don't know.
He's 23.
He looks like he's 85.
85?
Come on.
That's tough.
He ages and dog-eats.
No, I'm just kidding.
I think it's funny because age is just a number.
I lose a couple years when I shave.
How old are you?
Like five or?
30.
Oh, okay.
I'm 30.
When I shave.
About 30?
Supposing to be about 30 years old.
On the dot.
It's your birthday?
No, not that on the dot.
Okay.
Do Muslims even celebrate birthdays?
How does that work?
No.
It's a sin to celebrate your birthday.
No.
But I'm not Muslim, so it's okay.
Okay.
Do they give you like a magic carpet on your 30th birthday, or how does that work?
I already have one.
Why would they give me one?
How do you think I get to church on time, every week?
I didn't even know.
I thought it was magic.
It is.
You know what I was going to say, because we were talking about like debating people?
I've had a guy one time when I was at the shops at Legacy, just I was soul winning,
and he was a orthodox.
And I was like, okay, I'm done talking to you, because he just wouldn't listen, and
he kept trying to debate me.
So I'm walking away, and then this guy's trying to follow me just to debate me.
Well, yeah, there's a time and a place.
Obviously the Bible does talk about an heretic after the first and second admonition, reject.
So there's a situation when we're soul-winning where we just have to reject a heretic, but
I do think there are times where it might be appropriate to get into it a little bit.
Not soul-winning.
I think soul-winning, we're there to get people to say, "It's a waste of time soul-winning."
That's just me talking to one person.
Never debate soul-winning in my opinion.
Doesn't help anyone.
Yeah.
If, for example, James White wanted to have a debate about the King James only issue,
I think that would be a profitable idea for us to defend our doctrine on that.
So again, time, place, context.
The Bible does say, it says both in the book of Proverbs, to answer a fool and not to at
the same time, in the very next, and why?
Is that because if you don't answer, they're going to think they're probably right?
And then if you do answer them though, they're just going to say that you're wrong.
Well, I think there's two ways to look at it.
One of them is, in Proverbs 26 verse 4 is the verse I'm referring to, "Answer not a
fool according to his folly, lest thou be like unto him."
The very next verse says, "Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit."
Now there's two ways to look at it.
The first way is, well, there's just no winning.
What you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.
But I personally think what this is saying is that there is a situation where you just
should not answer a fool.
And you brought up an example of that when you're out soul winning.
But there is another situation and another time and a place and a setting where it actually
is a good idea to answer and respond.
What do you think about that?
Well, again, I do think the discretion is a big component when it comes to when to
fight.
I actually was thinking about preaching a sermon on the idea of like when to fight and
just kind of like being able to identify the right timeframes because, you know, again,
liberal Christians will always say like turn the other cheek or we need to love our enemies
or they kind of quote a lot of verses that talk about having charity or being long suffering.
Yeah.
And of course, there's a time and a place for that, you know, we don't want to say
that those verses don't apply and that they don't have their context.
But at the end of the day, we want to make sure that we're not acquiescing to evil and
just allowing the devil to come and rob us of our goods, rob us of our wives.
You know, we don't want to be like the guy that's like hide your wife, hide your kids
because they're raping everybody out here.
And he's just like, and we're fine with it.
You know, it's like we need to make sure that we're contending.
And I think that any normal, straight man in his heart has a hard time with what liberal
preachers say about like loving pedophiles, loving rapists.
I know when we were in Watauga, there was a pastor across the street, a Nazarene pastor,
and he was giving subway sandwiches and water and food to the protesters against us.
And then he preached a sermon about us and he said, "Now we want to pray for Steadfast
Baptist Church."
And he said, "Now it's actually harder for us to want to pray for Steadfast Baptist Church
than human traffickers and pedophiles."
So this pastor is claiming that our church is worse than pedophiles and predators.
Now we've been streaming for a while, but we're going to keep on going.
This is the long haul show.
We have another guest that's going to be joining us this evening and we're going to make sure
that his mic and everything is set up.
But unfortunately, the diversity is not going to continue on the show.
So we had 2% black on the show, but now it seems like we're going even more white.
No, he's a Jew.
Oh, okay.
So we got all kinds of diversity on the show and it looks like he's Irish.
I don't know.
The fighting Irish.
Irish Jew?
But let me know when he's ready to go on the show, but Alex Rosen is going to be joining
us.
We played a couple clips of his.
His, I guess, work is kind of called The Predator Poachers.
He's got several different YouTube channels.
I think he has a Twitter that he works with.
What else is he on?
He's on Locals.
Rumble.
That's big.
Rumble.
And yeah, Twitter, like you said.
It's hard to find this content because the Predators don't want you to find it.
Well, YouTube, correct me if I'm wrong here, Cassidy, but doesn't YouTube take down a lot
of Predator content because of bullying or something?
Yeah, bullying, harassment.
That's why he has to be friendly with them.
He can't yell at them or anything like that.
And if he does, he always posts it on Rumble.
I see.
Okay.
Because I remember you had an issue with that.
Oh, yeah.
Where they claimed that your video was bullying as if there's such a thing.
I mean, it's not bullying when it's a pedophile freak going after children.
Well, if you catch people in their own words, now you're bullying them, right?
So we got another guest with us, Alex Rosen.
How's it going?
Good.
I'm so sorry I'm late.
But dude, I've been running around all day today, got a trip at 3 a.m. in the morning
tomorrow.
So it's been busy.
Well, you know, it seems like you're doing some important work out there.
Tell us a little bit about what you've been doing.
So we have a group called Predator Poachers where we catch online child predators typically
by posing as a minor online and predators from across the country hit us up thinking
that we're a kid and we go nationwide.
And our work has led to arrest in 44 different states and convictions in 38.
Is Texas one of those?
Well, yeah, I live in Houston.
We have the most arrests in Texas.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
And do you do a lot of things locally?
Are you just traveling all the time or?
Well, locally, it's a little bit tougher because I'm more a district attorney.
The DA's office here is pretty left leaning.
They don't really like to take up, well, really any cases of any crime, but especially not
ours.
So we just kind of travel in other place like smaller place that we know will arrest or
even bigger place like Oklahoma City definitely arrest.
So we just want to go where the predators can get in some real trouble.
Well, we had a caller on earlier Logan, he wanted to ask you this question about have
you ever felt, you know, in any kind of danger or any fear for your safety while doing some
of these things?
Oh, yeah, we had a guy in Medford, Oregon in 2022.
He was packing a gun and like it was already tense.
But then the subscriber finds out that we're live streaming in his area and he shows up
and he calls a predator a sicko and mind you, this guy's like six foot eight, definitely
autistic and like has the temperament of just a two year old.
So he just pulls the gun out and points at the subscriber and yeah, we were definitely
very nervous when that happened.
Oh man.
I think I saw an episode of yours where you catch this guy, he's kind of an older guy,
he's in his apartment and then he starts threatening to like cut himself if you guys leave.
I think was what he was trying to say.
And you guys are kind of like walking out the door and then and then he does start cutting
himself.
Do you know what clip I'm talking about?
Yeah, Phil.
His name is ironically his name was Philip Sharp.
What you know, to me, I'm just like thinking if this guy's gonna like cut himself, I was
just thinking like, I'm just gonna walk away.
But I know that there's probably some legal issues there.
You want to be careful.
Obviously, we don't necessarily want to get in trouble or do the wrong thing.
But I mean, what was going through your mind when this guy's like cutting himself?
Well, if we lived in a civilized society, I would have like cheered it on and got some
popcorn and just like want to go down.
But no, obviously, I didn't want to get in any trouble like these people to me or not.
I mean, obviously, if it was my own kid, and you know, when I have some soon, like if it
actually was happening, I don't give a shit, like I'll do whatever.
But you know, if it's none of them, in this case, none of them are worth getting in trouble
over.
So, you know, I was like, God damn it, I got to like, put some paper on this guy's wrist
or whatever.
But funny story.
So he goes ghost for a little bit and unfortunately, based on our confrontation and based on the
evidence we had, he didn't technically break any laws because in Texas, you can talk sexually
to who you think is a kid, but if certain things are not said and certain elements aren't
met, then they can't be prosecuted.
So he didn't say enough to get prosecuted and the reason why we approached him despite
that is because he deactivated his Facebook so he talks to him or we try to find child
porn on one of his devices and we were unsuccessful in that.
But he came back around like in February after nothing happened to him so that risk cut was
in September.
He comes back around in February, starts messaging another one of our, actually the same decoy
and we catch him.
I get him an Uber ride to go to Georgetown, Texas and because this time he's wanted to
meet up so this time he's actually breaking the law.
He wants to meet up and this time around we got him to admit that possessing child pornography
and to wanting sex with who he thought was a kid and this time he's going to get arrested
very soon I hope.
Well, that's good.
He's wearing your favorite shirt by the way.
Oh, yeah.
What's my favorite shirt?
Let's let me see the shirt.
Nice.
Let's go Brandon.
We need you know I saw Alex wearing that one of those shirts of the day too so we need
more people to wear that shirt.
Which one?
This is Alex.
Oh, I'm sorry Jones.
Alex Jones.
There's so many Alex's out there.
I just want to get there.
I think you were on Alex's show pretty recently weren't you?
In football.
Yes, I was.
I was.
That's good.
So again, you had a YouTube channel that got nuked at some point.
I think it was Chet Goldstein, is that what happened?
It did get nuked.
Yeah, we've had pretty bad luck with YouTube channels.
So that's why we post on Rumble Predator Poachers.
Where'd you come up with this name?
Well I actually wasn't the one that came up with it.
One of my friends, his name is Matt, he's the one that actually said, "Hey, you should
just make a Jewish character called Chet Goldstein."
This was back when I was like 19, so I was a little bit more immature then and didn't
take it as serious.
I was like, "Oh, that'd be so funny."
I mean, it is still funny, but I was like, "Oh, that'd be so funny."
We kind of just went with that and rolled with it.
I got a nice curly-haired wig and kind of sported it when I would be the Chet Goldstein
character.
I can't believe that YouTube would be so anti-Semitic to get rid of Jewish YouTube channels.
I mean, that just seems really wrong.
Exactly.
But when they find out the said Jewish YouTube channel in question spewed off the N word,
they can choose which victim class they want to go after.
You know what's crazy though?
It was right after you caught EDP, right?
Yeah.
So the reason it got nuked, they claimed it was because we're posting content from a deleted
channel because another channel that may or may not have been owned by us got deleted
a week before that happened that had 154k subs.
We re-uploaded a bunch of those same videos on the Czech Goldstein channel.
The reason why it got to their attention is because of the EDP catch and because some
terrible clips of me saying very offensive words leaked out so they just nuked the channel
for that.
They found like the reason to nuke it.
Didn't your EDP catch get a million views in the first 24 hours?
Way more than that.
It was like, I mean I know the first hour got like 100k views.
I want to say the first 24 got like 2-3 million.
And then I was mentioning earlier on the show how you were talking to Chris Hansen.
It was like a little like zoom call or a podcast, whatever.
And he mentioned, you know, how you said some offensive words.
And I was, and I was like, dude, I was shocked because usually you're so witty.
And I was like, why didn't you mention the cheating on the white?
I know I got stopped my tracks, dude.
I know.
If I had him now, he'd be Swiss cheese.
But you know, I was just kind of on the spot.
And didn't you, you went to a political rally.
I think that you went, you're a Hillary supporter, right?
And very big one, yeah.
They just didn't even like you.
They got rid of you.
What is that about?
Well, I mean, you know, it's so funny.
I was wearing a hat that said shout out to Rob in Oregon for providing me the hat.
One of our one of my favorite subscribers of our channel.
I was wearing a hat that said I'm autistic and a mask and a gay pride shirt to the Hillary
rally.
And it's so funny that nobody even questioned like that.
I was legit.
Like I just I literally blended in like they were like, oh, he's one of us.
So Hillary Clinton was speaking and I just called out that her husband went to Epstein
Island.
I didn't say anything that was untrue.
And I guess the crowd didn't like that.
Oh, man.
I was kind of curious, just for the audience, if they're maybe unfamiliar with the process
that is kind of necessary for you to go through with a predator catch.
Can you just walk us through a typical catch?
What do you do to prepare and and what's kind of the steps that you need to take to eventually
get somebody caught and in prison?
Well, it all depends on the laws in certain states, like, you know, in Arizona, for example,
if the predator sends a dick pic to who he believes to be a minor, we can just go to
his house right then and there after a felony charge, but in Texas, if they were to do that,
that's not a felony charge.
It's not even a charge at all.
So it really depends on the state law, but typically, you know, a pretty blanket thing
is they have to talk sexual to who they think is a minor and attempt or bring up a meeting.
And that's when, you know, we either say, Hey, I'm over here, they covered me or we
go to their house, find some other shit.
Like a lot of times we go out for people that are just possessing child pornography.
And that's a very easy way to get them arrested because, you know, some DA's even in states
where the law allows us to do what we do, they're like, oh, well, you're a civilian.
How can we trust it?
But when it's like this guy's admitted to child pornography, that's nothing to do with
our evidence.
It's more of just, he said this to us and here you go.
How did you even start something like this or why did you even get into this exactly?
I mean, again, I'm not against that.
I'm for it.
I'm just kind of curious.
How does that even happen?
Yeah.
Well, I've always wanted to be a police officer.
So I'm 24 now.
I know I look older.
But I started doing this when I was 19.
I've always wanted to be a cop.
And you couldn't be a cop in Houston, at least not in 2019 when you were 19 years old.
So I don't know, I just was like, hey, these videos look kind of interesting.
It's just really that big of an issue.
I didn't think like, you know, luckily, my family, there's no pedophiles and you really
hear about any pedophiles, no friends of mine that I know have gotten molested.
So it's like, was it was all pretty foreign to me.
But I was like, how hard, how hard can this be?
Or how easy is this?
So I made a fake profile and 30 minutes later, somebody wanted to go meet up a 15 year old
boy for sex.
And obviously, here I am now, it's just, it's, it's fucking endless.
Was it, was it the youth minister?
That was not the first guy, but that was one of the first few.
That was so, I'm just saying, dude, that was so funny because you're chasing him around.
He's wearing flip flops and Walmart.
Oh yeah.
I mean, go ahead.
Yeah, no, he was a very nervous Eric painter.
He was a, I forgot if he was, I forgot if he was Catholic church.
I want to say he was Catholic church or if he was Protestant, but it turns out he was
a youth minister and he tried to DM me on Instagram like a week after his video drops
saying I'm so sorry, I'm going to lose my job, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And he tried to tell me that he's like a managing director at some company, but turns
out like a day later I find out he's a youth minister so that ship sailed.
One thing I noticed Alex is that you know how to draw information out of the predators
and you kind of, you strike maybe a friendlier tone seemingly just so that I'm sure first
of all, so that you don't get the bullying strike from YouTube, but also I feel like
you're able to utilize that to get as much info out of them as possible.
Can you talk a little about that strategy that you use to extract as much as you can
from them before the cops get there?
Well, you got to kind of be like, I guess to you all, like the Methodist Church is like
the one that allows all the gay shit, right?
Pretty much.
Is that like...
United Methodist for sure, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
That's true, yeah.
You got to kind of act like you're from the United Methodist Church and be like, "Oh,
that's okay, bro.
I don't care about you.
It's okay.
I care more about what other people are trying to bring you into."
So basically, by telling on their homies, they're telling on themselves.
I'm like, "Oh, no, no, no.
I know you're not the one creating the child porn.
I just want to know where it came from."
They're like, "Oh, well, it's going to be sent to me here, here, here."
And then they're admitting to receiving it and possessing it.
So that's kind of like what we do.
And of course, like, yeah, the YouTube system is more beneficial to do it this way.
But on the other hand, seeing how sick these people can be, I mean, just the sheer amount
of people that we've caught that are into infants and toddlers.
Like you think, oh, meeting a teen girl for sex, but these people are into babies.
Like you want to aim for a conviction as much as possible.
Like if I lose my cool with any of them or do anything that could potentially screw up
anything, I don't want that on my hand.
So that's why I just got to play it cool and get them arrested.
I think we have a clip that I wanted to play from yours.
It's clip number five.
And I think it's you interacting with one of these guys, it's just a minute or so.
Let's play clip number five for a second.
All right.
Good.
Let me call my friend real quick.
Be right back.
Am I going to be in trouble?
No, I'm just calling my friend.
Hey, we're at the Oconto Falls Library.
What's happening?
We're with an individual named Timothy who came to meet an 11-year-old girl.
We just want to report him to you all because he's just currently with us right now and
we want to turn over everything.
I think it's funny.
He's like, "Oh, I'm just calling my friend."
That's the humor there.
I'm just calling a buddy.
I like, too, when you're talking to the people at first and you're like, "Look, I'm just
looking for the real bad guys."
Yeah.
Just tell me, "I think you're a good guy, man."
And then when they tell you something, when they start letting it out, you're like, "Man,
I respect the hell out of you."
And then you're like, "Fist bump."
Oh, yeah.
No.
This is a tech even Mississippi taught me that basically when they give a shred of honesty,
it's like throwing a dog a treat.
So that's why the fist bump comes like, "Oh, thank you bro for your honesty."
That's kind of the mentality there.
And then one more thing I was going to say.
The last guy you caught, I swear I thought it was Norm McDonald.
If I just shut off the video footage and you just hear the guy's voice, it sounds like
Norm McDonald.
Which one?
The one--
It's really dark.
Yeah.
Greg.
Sounds just like him.
I couldn't get anything out of him.
He was like a sovereign citizen.
That guy was pissing me off.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
We'll see what we got for him soon.
It caught me off guard at first, the way you were interacting with him, because before,
like when I first stumbled on your videos, I was kind of like, "Why is he being friendly?
What is this?"
And then it took me a second to figure out what you're doing, basically.
I just thought it was incredible how they admit so much to you.
Well, I mean, you got to think, if your dark secret is being revealed for the first time
in the 50 years you've been on earth, just think, you're expecting some guy, especially
someone my size with a baseball bat to come or brass knuckles or something, but no, no,
it's okay.
I understand, bro.
We want to get you out of this.
And then their whole mentality changes to like, wait a second, maybe I can talk my
way out of this.
And even when they admit a lot, I mean, there's a difference between being honest and incriminating
themselves.
A lot of them incriminate themselves, but they're never honest.
So many of them have so many more skeletons than you even hear in the videos.
Yeah, they're probably downplaying it.
It's kind of like girls when they talk about their body count.
It's like you've got to times it by three or five or something like that, right?
Yes.
That's what we say with the amount of child porn they have.
We just say you can always add a zero or two to it.
It's probably even the ages of the kids that they're going after too, right?
They probably kind of downplay the ages of some of their youngest victims, or?
Yeah.
Oh, 100%.
I mean, we've had people, I mean, yeah, pretty much like when we ask people, "Well, so you
say other younger ladies under 18 have talked to you, who?"
And they're like, "Oh, well, you know, 16, 17-year-olds," and in reality, it's like 10
and 11-year-olds.
Oh, man.
When it comes to this issue, it seems like it's almost too easy to find people to catch.
Like, it just seems like there's just like an overabundance.
But I don't know if that's just like our bias because we just see all the videos, or do
you really feel like there's just a plethora of these pedophiles and predators everywhere?
Yeah, no.
I mean, finding pedophiles online is one of the easiest things in the world.
When it comes to getting a predator on the hook, we're not doing anything special.
I mean, Cass, you know how easy it is to just get ... Imagine if Grindr never banned you.
These apps didn't have any bans.
I mean, it would be so easy.
That's the easy part.
It is a big problem for sure.
It is endless.
Well, some people have ... A lot of people put in comments and they've been asking me
to ask you this, but is there any kind of advice you have for parents and stuff to try
and avoid some of these predators or what are some tips or suggestions you have?
Well, it's pretty cliche, but we lock our doors at night for a reason, so it's the same
mentality.
You're not going to come across an online predator if you're not being raised on a
tablet or if you're not being raised on a phone.
The best advice is, literally, if you have a son, hand him a football or a basketball.
If you have a daughter, enroll her in theater or something, there's a statistic that 70%
of kids from the ages of 12 to 17 get hit up by an online predator.
So it's going to happen.
But another thing, too, I would say hold on loosely.
Don't be overbearing.
Don't be a super mega helicopter parent, because as soon as they get a shred of freedom
and secrecy, they're going to go jump out and try something.
But if you just alert them, like say, "Hey, that guy doesn't actually think you're cute.
That guy doesn't actually like you.
That guy doesn't actually look at you as an equal."
Stuff like that.
But I think the easiest way is just hand your kids something that's real, football or extracurricular
activities.
When it comes to these interactions, are these decoys, are they making the first move here
or how is that working?
How is these decoys being set in the sense, are children really just looking at stuff
online and just being innocent and just people are coming out of the woodwork or do you guys
actually put some bait out there?
Yeah.
So we never messaged and when we're posing as the kid, we never messaged first.
Like there's times where we think a guy could be into like CP or something like that
or there's times something like that where we might pose as like an adult that's kind
of into that stuff and we might message first in that regard but when it comes to the child,
we never message first.
They always make the first contact and yeah, I really don't know the thought process of
how the predators find us, they're just looking for it pretty much.
There's nothing too special that we're doing, it's more of like we're just out there and
predators find us.
Is there any apps that are like the most prone to this?
Yeah, I mean it's every app but I think an app that has the highest rate of pedophiles
is absolutely this app called Meet24 and there's very, I mean I never heard of it when I was
a kid but Meet24 has like 99% pedophiles on there.
Oh man, that's awful.
Grindr?
Yeah, but Grindr has a lot but the rate of pedos on Meet24, like pedos per capita, by
far the highest.
Like I think on Meet24 after like two and a half years of using it, maybe two people
have turned down the decoy out of thousands.
Have you noticed any patterns or any commonalities between all these pedophiles?
Like what are some things maybe you've noticed about who these people are?
Well, you know, this is the one thing that has like no race, religion or anything.
But you know, with the people we catch, because we're posing as a, for the most part, like
an underage girl.
So we're going to catch a lot of basically older white men that are online.
And on top of that too, we go to areas that arrest.
And so, you know, if we were like going to Austin, Texas, we probably wouldn't be catching
a lot of older white men or in Houston or whatever.
But we go to like the country areas because those people arrest, because the DAs, they're
taking more seriously.
So yeah, that's why the people that we get are typically the older, older white men.
Well, I mean, we've made some films of movie called Sodomite Deception and LGBT Terrace.
And in some of those films, we looked at some older FBI statistics and it shows that, you
know, people who are into, you know, lesbianism, gay, transgender, all that stuff are way
more disproportionately into child, you know, predators or catching, you know, children
or going after children.
I'm just kind of curious, have you noticed any kind of increase in percentage of people
that you catch being like an open homosexual or Sodomite or do you think it's just basically
the same?
Well, you know, no matter what we pose as, we're going to get bombarded with messages.
So when we pose as an underage boy, it's the same thing, we get bombarded with messages.
But as for the rate, as for like per capita, yes, it's absolutely there's more homosexuals
doing this per capita, but total number, obviously, there's a lot more straight people than are
gay.
So we're going to catch more straight people.
But it's literally who we pose as, like when we pose as a girl, we're catching a lot of
straight people.
When we pose as a boy, we're catching a lot of, obviously, well, they can only be gay.
But we've-
Have you ever had a girl approaching one of the boys, decoys?
Ooh, girl approaching the boys?
No, we've had a girl being interested in girls.
So a lot of the women online though, they're a lot more careful than the guy because guys
think with their dicks.
So if they don't get a nude photo from us, they're like, "Oh, okay, there has to be some
excuse to that.
It's okay.
We can figure out something else."
But with the women predators, yeah, they message us, but if they don't get a nude photo like
in two seconds, they'll block us because they know it's bullshit.
They're a lot smarter and sneakier online than men are.
Isn't that, and then I'm not trying to get you in trouble here, isn't it dangerous for
you to even possess that to send from your decoy accounts or how does that work?
Oh, yeah, no.
We don't possess anything to send.
That's why we don't send them any nudes.
We don't...
Oh, okay.
You're just saying...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're just saying we're in a hypothetical situation.
Yeah, the decoys are adults, but even...
So we could technically send a nude as an adult, but the thing is, the case is...
A lot of DAs wouldn't even want to touch that if we're sending nudes ourselves, so...
Yeah, fortunately, you don't look 17 or anything, so we can't...
That doesn't work, does it?
Yeah, yeah.
That's funny.
I think that...
Do cops actually violate that?
When they're being decoys, do they even break the law in those regards, or do you even
know?
No, no, no.
The cops are not allowed to send in nudes.
They would consider that entrapment, so basically, that's why our chats need to be pretty...
That's why our chats need to be pretty airtight.
Me personally, honestly, if we had a really sick predator on the hook, would I send a
nude?
Yeah, 100%.
I used to do that before we even called the cops.
I would do that and shit, but yeah, I personally don't see an issue with it.
I mean, if it gets this predator caught, put your body on the line, I don't care.
As long as your friends don't lobby.
Well, do they send you stuff though?
The predators send a lot of nudes and in the rare cases that the predator sends something
that we think could be illegal, we report that to National Center for Missing and Exploited
Children.
We just go to CyberTipLine and just report it.
Okay.
I'm just curious because I know that that's a really controversial thing, you don't want
to be caught with this even if you had good intentions because you could go to jail even
if you were having no intention of doing anything with that.
Isn't that correct?
For sure.
So that's why we obviously can't solicit it.
So if you get something that's sent unsolicited, and this goes for anybody, if you get something
that's sent unsolicited, instantly make a report on CyberTipLine.org and law enforcement
agency may or may not reach out to say, "Hey, what happened here?"
We had a predator in West Virginia that we actually caught.
The cops just didn't do shit and he's still messaging the decoy account a year or two
down the line.
We're just ignoring him at this point because we're just sick of it, like nothing's going
to happen.
Then out of the blue, he just sends us a very young looking photo that we think was probably
illegal.
We made a report with the CyberTipLine and the West Virginia State Police reached out
to me and they were like, "Yeah, we're kind of investigating this guy.
Send me what you have.
We want to get him for distribution of child porn."
We went ahead and did that and we haven't heard from the predator since.
I think at this point he could be arrested.
What about when it comes to like from a religious perspective, are you catching people that
are involved in like ministries or in churches in any of these scenarios?
Yeah, there's a few.
It's not the overwhelming majority.
The majority of them are like, it's easy to appeal with a God thing because they don't
want to look like, I mean, they're already caught with something bad so they don't want
to look even worse.
Like, we had a giant child porn trader named David Dunn in West Virginia who basically
was like, yeah, I watched the evangelicals on the TV and we just appealed to his godly
side, his godly side, and we were like, yeah, man, it's okay.
And then he just spills to over 10 real victims, eludes him molesting his daughters, and he's
still sitting in jail now.
But I wouldn't say the overwhelming majority are like Bible thumpers or anything.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, again, we made a couple films about this and the Bible talks about people
who hate God in their heart end up being given over to a reprobate mind and they do things
that are sick and unnatural and vile.
And I believe that's exactly what a pedophile is that he's been given over to these disgusting
behaviors.
And so that's why you see sometimes a direct connection with, you know, fake religion or
false religion like some of the Catholic, you know, priests or Mormons.
I think you caught a Mormon.
We actually played a clip from that.
How did that go down?
So yeah, so that dude, he was very sexual with our decoy.
And basically he did he like so he was from Idaho and he was living in Virginia for like
a mission trip.
So it's not like we could just run his name and find an address for him because he technically
didn't live in Virginia, but we ended up like finding where he lived anyway.
And you know, his whole his whole thing got shattered.
And after that cash, after that cash, he went back to like, dude, it was nuts because FBI
we had we had we had caught a firefighter in that same jurisdiction that we call the
Mormon missionary and the firefighters currently serving a 33 year prison sentence.
But the FBI for whatever reason didn't want to touch the Mormon guy.
So the Mormon guy went back to Idaho and he molested a kid and now Virginia lost press
charges on him.
So he after that catch, he went back home and then molested the kid.
How old was the kid?
16.
How old is he?
He when that happened, he was well at that point, he'd be 23 when that happened.
Okay.
Did you know he was a Mormon before you showed up or how did that work?
Yeah.
He told us that he was like a Mormon missionary.
Well, what was astonishing, what was astonishing to me was his, his buddy in the clip that
we watched.
Like he played it off, like it was nothing more than an inconvenience.
Like it was just an inconvenience and they just wanted to get back to teaching a class.
And then.
Yeah.
There was no sense of urgency with his friend at all.
That was very troubling.
Before I forget, we were talking about the cops being Freemasons, a lot of cops being
Freemasons.
You said you saw some cops that it was just out in the open.
They were wearing it.
Talk about that.
Yeah.
So we had our stuff seized in Vermont.
We caught this sex offender at his job, and he just spills so long to have sex with our
nine-year-old decoy, spills the possessing, trading, and buying child pornography.
And the cops came, and without even getting permission, without even having probable cause,
they take all of our devices, like the camera, everything.
They take all of our devices.
And to be fair, they took the Predator's phone too, but my friend and my camera guy pointed
out that he saw a Freemason vest on one of the cops.
Like literally, the Bulletproof Vest had the G right there, the G and the...
The compass thing?
Yeah, yeah, the stencil thing, yeah.
So that was pretty trippy.
And I was scared shitless when they had our devices because I was like, "Dude, they're
going to try to pin something on us."
But luckily, I mean, luckily that never happened, but luckily we got them back, well, except
for the footage of it.
And I think there's some cover up going on because if they were able to dump all of
our devices and go through them in a day, yet they have the sex offender's phone and
he still hasn't been arrested yet even though they've been sitting on his phone for three
months which they've obviously dumped and found child porn on at this point.
Very weird shit, man.
New England is a weird area.
So the guy that you caught, he had some Freemasonry stuff on him too or was it just the cops?
Just the cops, but you never know who his dad is.
It's funny because I have a friend who's a detective and he said that there's these
people who will call and the name of a detective, they'll say that they're a detective and
say that these people are caught, basically the people that you're finding, they'll say
they caught them and they'll say, "If you pay me $20,000 then I'll just make the evidence
disappear."
They're just basically scamming these predators or something like that.
I'm curious, has any of these people ever offered you money or tried to say, "Hey, why don't
we figure out another way to resolve this or something?"
Do they ever try to bribe you or anything like that?
It's actually more rare than you would think.
I guess it helps when these predators are on our fucking welfare and taking all of our
tax dollars.
It's not like they have anything to offer.
But no, there was a guy in 2019, before I even made a penny doing this, who offered
his whole life savings to me.
I don't know how much his life savings was.
I don't care enough to ask.
But yeah, I mean, he offered, and obviously I just said no.
But there's been a few, but it's very, very rare, to be honest.
I mean, I thought that we'd have a guy who--
we caught this guy in a hotel room recently.
We were posing as a pedo family, so I was a pedo dad.
I had one of my subscribers play as the mom,
and I had my decoy play as a nine-year-old kid.
And we caught him red-handed in the hotel room.
He admitted to molesting his daughter on the hot mic,
thinking that he was telling the pedo dad this.
And he was making $250,000 a year.
And I thought he would offer me money, because he
had the money to kind of offer to try to get out of this,
but he never did, and he's currently
sitting in jail right now, still.
Well, I think sometimes the police--
you brought up some cops that are apathetic.
They don't want to do anything.
And I'm curious about your response
to people who claim entrapment.
You brought up the word "entrapment" before.
And just to be clear, this is not my opinion at all.
But you look online, Reddit, and some of these places,
and you'll see comments like, oh, these predator catchers,
they're just entrapping people, and there isn't a real victim,
so how could people go to prison for this?
I mean, what's your response to that?
Well, they can and do go to prison because of it.
The law says nothing about--
in most states, it says nothing about it has to be a real kid,
it has to be a cop, it has to be--
in most states, as long as they believe
they're talking to a minor and solicit sex from that minor,
that is the felony right there.
Yeah, that's the crime right there.
Right, that's the crime.
And then another thing, too, we try
to get people to admit to having child
porn on their phones because you can't trap child porn.
We had a guy in Milwaukee named Justin Swift.
He's currently doing 17 years right now.
He admitted to us that he wanted to have sex
with our fake 13-year-old.
He admitted to possessing child pornography.
And he actually admitted to molesting his cousin
a few years before that.
Or a few years ago, he admitted to us last year
that he molested his cousin a few years before we caught him.
And they end up dropping the charge with our fake decoy
and nail him on child pornography
and molesting his cousin.
They actually found who the cousin was.
So oftentimes, if we get them with solid shit
on their own phones, they roll with that.
Well, I know you have a lot of support.
And I know a lot of people really like the videos.
I'm kind of curious where this goes.
As long as you get support, are you just
going to keep this band going, or do you have an in-game?
Or I mean, obviously, it's probably overwhelming
in the sense that you probably feel
like you can't catch everyone.
But I'm just kind of curious, what's the future here?
Well, yeah, we're definitely not going
to catch even close to the majority of pedos in the US.
I mean, we haven't even caught near even a percentage of them.
I mean, there's just endless amounts of them.
But we know that in kids' lives we still made a difference.
When we catch a babysitter who admits to using care.com to go find children to go molest,
he's currently in trouble now with the law, currently out on bond.
We know that's making a difference.
We're making a difference in small communities.
But as for our end game, there really isn't any.
It's just kind of moving forward and trying to expand, trying to figure out other avenues
to get stuff done.
I'm hoping to get laws changed, especially in Texas, to make it tougher on these people,
unsuccessful as of now, but if we get a million followers, eventually they're going to have
to say, "Okay, we've got to do something about this."
We'll see.
Yeah.
I think the exposure rate's great.
I think the exposure alone is having an impact and it's helping raise awareness, and it's
not like this boogeyman.
With your video specifically, the liberal media has a hard time saying, "Oh, this is
just a few incidents," or it's misunderstood, and of course they want to pretend it's not
a big deal, but at the rate that you guys are going, it's pretty obvious it's an epidemic.
It's a serious issue.
It's dirty work to say the least, and I guess you kind of mentioned this, but do you feel
like you've actually met any of the potential victims or found a child that actually was
saved?
Because I know in The Sound of Freedom, it was kind of a big turning point for, I think
is what Tim Ballard, when he had met one of the victims that he had saved, it was really
impactful to him because he's always just catching people online or something.
And then when he finally sees the kid, it was like really impactful.
Have you had a moment where maybe you actually saw a child that was a victim or can you share
something about that?
Yeah.
So, meeting, so she wasn't the child at the time, but we had a guy named Jeffrey Wanneger
in Iowa, arrested, he's currently doing 35 years for molesting his stepdaughter, well,
I guess ex-stepdaughter.
So we caught him in 2021 going after our fake kid and then he coughs up to molesting his
stepdaughter and we get the ball rolling with that.
Like we ended up finding her on Instagram.
She was about, she's about my age, like a year younger, finding her on Instagram and
say, everyone was like, "Hey, do you know this guy?
Is this like you?"
And she gets in touch with us and she gets the ball rolling.
She ends up reporting him to the cops.
They go ahead and get our video.
And yeah, finally, I mean, he was dumb enough to plead not guilty, which I guess is great
because he got a longer sentence than if he just took the plea deal.
Getting to meet her after court was awesome.
Like obviously in the courtroom, I couldn't meet her or talk to her, but we went to go
have lunch after with her family and it was really nice meeting her.
And even two days ago, we caught this guy who was messaging me as a fake pedo dad and
he was just going on and on the messages about how he was molesting his own kid.
She's nine years old.
And we were at his house two days ago in Alabama and we saw his stepdaughter and that's who
he's talking about.
We saw his stepdaughter and it's pretty crazy that this is the person that he's talking
about and just seeing how small she is, how anybody could actually do that to someone
like that.
It's crazy.
How old was she?
She's nine.
Oh man.
Well, the Bible brings up a couple of different instances as far as punishment for these people.
One is if you force someone, you'd be put to death and another one is if you're caught
stealing a man, that you'd be put to death which is really kind of alluding to human
trafficking.
Do you feel like in any of these instances, you've actually uncovered maybe someone that's
involved with or willing to participate in human trafficking at all?
It's hard to say.
Just offhand, offhand no.
We've had people offer money to who they think is a kid to have sex with them and who knows
what was going to happen.
We've had a guy named Brandon Scott Allen in Tucson, Arizona.
He's I think doing like five to seven years right now, but he went to go meet who he thought
was a six and a nine-year-old and he wanted to take them to go camping in his camper.
I don't think if the kids were real they were ever going to come back.
It's hard to say if he was in an online pedo ring, but it's hard to say if he was associated
with anybody in person, but we've definitely run across people that I think we're going
to dispose of or kidnap the kids that they thought they were going to meet for sure.
You said you caught a guy before who wanted to cut an infant up or was he a little kid?
Clayton Tanner, yeah.
He wanted to do stuff to an 11-year-old and an infant.
We've definitely received a lot of hate mail for some of the things that we preach and
stuff, but I can't imagine.
Do you get hate mail or some pretty nasty voicemails from some of these people or how
does that work?
We don't get too much hate mail for catching pedos at this point.
There's a little bit, but not too much, but we get a lot of, "Oh my God.
What you do doesn't count because you're so transphobic."
This was a DM that I got the other day, so it's like, all right.
I'm just thinking, do you have any of these people that you catch and then they don't
go to jail and then they threaten you or something like that or have you had much of that?
Yeah.
And so Jeffrey in Iowa, they can't just arrest him on the spot because he said he did something.
They have to corroborate it and everything.
They could have just arrested him for child molestation until they actually interviewed
his stepdaughter.
So yeah, so he was out of jail for three months after we caught him.
They didn't arrest him.
So we caught him in October.
They didn't arrest him until January.
And he FaceTimed me because I was using my real number to text him as the kid.
He FaceTimed me and he literally said, "We're on rumble right now, so fuck it."
He's literally like, "I'm going to kill you, nigger."
He says that to me, just on FaceTime and he hangs up.
So yeah, we've had that before.
How could he tell that you're black?
Well, I was on the high school basketball team, so I think that's probably what it was.
Probably the beard.
Yeah, yeah.
I am, bro.
You know what I mean, bro.
How old was this guy?
Third?
Oh, shit.
He was 44.
And then, you know what?
Cracked?
Yep.
Okay.
So he's talking, this older pedo, the Pentecostal guy.
And he's talking to this guy, and then the cops eventually end up coming.
And you know what the pedo says?
He's like, "You're a piece of shit."
Like when the cops come, because he didn't think the cops were going to arrest him.
Oh, yeah.
That was David Dunn in Virginia, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I was like, "How is he the..."
How many of these people have you successfully caught again?
I think you might have said it earlier, but I was just...
Well, I mean, lost count, but we have arrests in 44 states and convictions in 38.
I would say if I'm ballparking, we have more or less by a little bit 200 arrests and convictions,
I would have to guess, between 75 and 100.
That's from the last four years or...?
Well, really since basically the last three, because when we first started doing this,
we were just screwing around in Walmart shouting at them, so we had a lot of bugs that were
just roasting them.
Yeah, you just don't even know what you're doing, you're just figuring stuff out, right?
He got so many hate comments, because they're like, "Oh, you're racist, you're so messed
up."
Yeah, a lot of engagement for sure.
I was going to ask you this, okay, do people ever say that your videos are fake now?
Because people would comment on videos before saying, "Oh, this is fake," and stuff.
They come into all the Predator videos because there is fake stuff out there, but did they
do that to you?
Yeah, so the one in the hotel, and you can watch a preview on Rumble here on Predator
Poachers.
He was blatantly just talking about what he did to his own daughter, just thinking that
he's talking to a family of pedos.
Somebody commented, "Yeah, I like Alex, but this looks kind of fake," but no, it's not
fake.
He is actually that depraved.
Oh, man.
Well, I think that Florida was trying to flirt with legislation to put pedophiles to death
and, man, I just hope that more exposure like this could inspire more legislation like that.
I would hope that if that happened, at least deter some of these people or maybe get to
a point where it was harder to catch them or they were not doing this as much because
it just seems like an epidemic and that's not even counting all the human trafficking
that's probably going on in addition to this.
So no, I would love that penalty for them.
I mean, God, it's I mean, shout out to Amarillo PD in Texas, the panhandle for being kick
ass.
What's one of our favorite places to go do this?
But my God, man, we had a guy in Amarillo who literally verbatim said in the messages,
I want your 10 month old sister to suck me like a milk bottle.
Wow.
And you know how much time he got?
He spent like maybe two years behind bars.
Gross.
I'm actually from that.
I'm from that area because I lived in Canyon.
I lived in Canyon and it's like just a few minutes south of Amarillo, but have you ever
done the 72 ounce steak challenge?
Yup.
I am a proud winner.
I knew it.
You're a proud winner.
I knew it.
Okay.
I knew it.
I did it when I had COVID too.
Like I had a sore throat.
I just killed it.
Oh man.
What did you, what do you have it cooked?
Do you still have it cooked like medium, medium well?
Like how do you get your steak cooked?
Medium rare.
Nice.
Yeah.
No, I had the first...
What was your time?
50 minutes.
50.
Yeah.
I tried to do it in high school because there was this Division II school that offered me
a scholarship.
Nug ladies, I'm not trying to brag.
I'm just saying a Division II school wanted me to play football for them.
Yeah, right.
Basically.
It's a pretty big deal.
Pretty big deal.
But it was like in Alamosa, Colorado, so we had to drive through Amarillo and I wanted
to try the steak challenge because I heard about it before, but, dude, I didn't even
know you could ask for steak sauce in high school.
So I came within two bites of beating it, but I just couldn't do it anymore.
So this time around, when I was 21, I was like, "All right, I'm going to do the first
half with no steak sauce and the next half with steak sauce."
It's all about flavor.
It's all about flavor fatigue.
You've got to get rid of the flavor fatigue and then the salad, baked potato and shrimp
are easy.
Is it just like dry or what's with the sauce?
Well, so yeah, the steak gets dry because it's 72 ounces after a little bit.
So that's why you want to just drench the second half of the steak in sauce because
it's a new flavor.
Like A1 or what?
Yeah, it's A1 I think.
Yeah, okay.
So what do you get for it if you eat it?
Free.
A free meal and a t-shirt.
That's what I was actually going to joke about.
So you have the t-shirt?
I do have the t-shirt, yeah.
I'm like number 40,000 something I did the challenge on.
So you know what you need to do?
You need to wear the t-shirt next time you get a Predator in Amarillo for your video.
So there you go.
Yeah, that's true.
That's a good point.
That'd be funny.
Yeah.
Well, I'm glad that they're still, they still hate fags over there.
So that's, or it's Predaphiles at least.
Yeah, I mean, they like arresting them.
They don't really like giving them this.
Potter County doesn't really like giving them the sentence that they deserve.
We actually don't have one in Randall County yet.
All of our guys have been Potter.
That probably makes sense because Potter's more ghetto.
It's kind of the north part of it.
It's more on I-40.
So Randall's kind of the south nicer area.
So but I bet Randall would be a little bit harsher, but you never know.
Well, according to the detective, like we're coordinating with them on one of them.
We have this guy driving from Houston who's in a dark web child porn going after a nine
year old girl.
He booked the hotel and everything.
The detective told me he's like, "Hey, have them book it in Potter County, they prosecute
harder."
And I'm like, "Oh, okay."
Really?
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, the thing that helps me during this podcast is realizing that the Bible teaches
there's a hell because it does not seem like people are getting what they deserve.
And it seems like there's a lot of things delayed justice when it comes to this particular
issue.
I can't even imagine.
I don't even want to know what these people are doing.
Just hearing them talk that text he said, I don't want to hear it again, but it's just
like good night.
I mean, the things that they're actually doing this, the guy on care.com, I think you caught
somebody that admitted to being on care.com and admitted to essentially being with children
and infants.
I mean, isn't that, isn't that right?
Yeah.
So Dominic Barbagallo, you can look them up, Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.
Yeah, he was messaging who he thought was a 13-year-old.
The chats were not good enough to prosecute in Pennsylvania because you have to be, you
have to be an actual cop or kid for those chats to be used.
So we had to get him to admit to some other shit.
And he spilled about watching child porn for the past 15 years.
And he coughed up that he molested a three-year-old nonverbal autistic kid that he was babysitting.
And he took pictures of a five-year-old boy he was babysitting, like, naked.
And the victims have been identified.
And I hope the parents come through and do what they need to do to put that guy away
forever.
Yeah.
You said also, in that same video with that guy, that the guy got turned on by exposing
himself to the five-year-old.
Yeah.
He did.
It's just insane what these people are like and what they're doing.
And you definitely where there's a lot of evil out there.
Yeah.
No.
Evil has no...
I've learned doing this that evil has no limits.
19-year-old me was like, "All right, hopefully I scare them and not doing this again."
Yeah.
That's not going to fucking happen.
They always do it again.
Yeah.
It's an addiction.
I mean, they're not going to stop.
I think that some people don't understand the death penalty, but I think you have to
realize that some people will not stop and you have to stop them.
And that's just the reality.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
They need to all be murdered.
All right.
Well, it's not murder to do that to them, but they only execute it.
Yeah.
They need to be executed.
Shot in the back of the head.
But the thing is like, OK, you know, if these guys go to prison, they talk about they're
scared to get raped or whatever.
But wouldn't they like that's what they want?
No, they want to.
It's like a power trip for these people.
These people like they're the predators.
They don't want to be the prey.
They want to be the predator and they want to hurt innocent people.
They want to take innocence away from people.
It's a spiritual thing.
I mean, the Bible talks about these individuals being very evil and through their core and
they want to hurt, they want to harm.
The Bible talks about people who can't sleep unless they do some kind of evil.
It's very clear that the Bible's right on these issues and America used to have laws
that were based on the Bible and did put these people to death and it's just a shame that
we've gotten so far away from the word of God and having any sense of morality that
now I think the Supreme Court, you could correct me, I think that didn't they pass legislation
making the death penalty off the table for pedophiles or for child molestation?
Or am I wrong on that?
They did pass that.
I think that was a while ago and I think so the Florida law and the Idaho law, I think
they're basically giving an F you to the Supreme Court.
I think the Supreme Court has to either reconvene to see like, I don't know, I don't know, but
they're just challenging it basically.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I really hope that, I mean, obviously, I hope that the Florida law and Idaho law
stay there because they did be put to death.
That would be pretty cool if they did pass that if you could be like one of the first
people like catch someone that was then sentenced with that new law.
Dude, I know, because I was thinking like, I was literally thinking that when the babysitter,
when Dominic was admitting that to us, I was just thinking like, dude, if he was like a
thousand miles to the south, that dude would be facing the death penalty.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
I'm curious, Alex, if I know you probably get this question a lot, but the Chris Hansen
series to catch a predator, is that an inspiration for you at all?
And just kind of give me your thoughts on that.
Oh, for sure.
I mean, me and Chris Hansen don't like each other, but without him doing this, all the
people that I can say that Predator Poachers has helped put in jail, it wouldn't have happened.
So I'm glad that Chris Hansen did it.
And I think what he did was a net positive.
So for sure, definitely an inspiration.
And he basically kind of got shut down because he caught the wrong person or something, right?
I mean, essentially, he caught too high profile of a person.
But with your operation, even if let's just say, you know, Joe Biden's coming around the
corner with an ice cream cone, I mean, that's not necessarily stop your operation.
I mean, it could, but I'm just saying like, they're not going to cancel your funding or
something, right?
Yeah, we just, yeah, I mean, we're not bound by NBC.
We're not bound by, we're not bound by like these big media companies.
So yeah, we can catch whoever we want.
We are on locals and Rumble, so maybe we catch someone from TPUSA, we might get shut down.
So we'd have to catch Joe Biden, we'd be front page on Rumble.
Yeah.
I think Hillary Clinton might be trying to find you if that was the case.
Yeah, but you're dead.
Yeah.
Well, he'll be a FedEx truck pulling up to his house.
Yeah.
I'm so used to saying package.
You brought up, you brought up that you and Hanson don't like each other.
It seems like, and we kind of talked about this earlier, but it seems like he's not a
fan of YouTube predator catching at all.
I remember he, in a news clip, went after Skeeter Gene.
Why do you think that is?
What's his issue with other people picking up where he left off?
Well, it's an ego thing.
I mean, he wants to be known as the hero that saves the kids, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And you know, there's nothing wrong with that.
Like I for sure, you know, I mean, I don't like being called a hero necessarily because
I'm not doing anything that nobody else can do, but I was like, you're good.
You'll hear me.
Yeah.
We can hear you fine.
Okay.
Yeah.
But it's, it's, it's, it's an ego thing.
Like, like Chris Hansen, it seems like he'd rather, I mean, it seems like he'd rather
just the people, the babysitter or someone like Kevin Cook, who we caught in Iowa, who's
actively molesting his own daughter, he'd rather just have those people keep doing what
they're doing rather than them being caught because his ego won't, he can't get his ego
out of the way.
So I think that's what it is.
I think it's just purely an ego thing.
I don't think Chris Hansen thinks that he's, I don't think Chris Hansen at heart thinks
that he's some expert connoisseur of this, but nobody else can be.
I just think it's an ego thing strictly for him.
Well, he also had a multimillion dollar budget with a TV network when he first did it, which
you don't have obviously.
And second, I was going to say the people you catch are a hundred times worse than the
people that he caught.
Oh, a hundred percent.
Yeah, you're going after, yeah.
It's the scum of the earth, obviously, for both sides.
But the thing with you is that it's younger and you're catching them with material.
It's different.
Well, yeah, because with Chris, you can look at some of his catches and think, wow, this
guy is just so lonely and he hasn't had any action in how long, which he still needs to
go to jail and get shot.
But with us, that took a big turn.
Amen.
But like with us, we like to leave no doubt that the person we're confronting is a pedophile.
There is no loneliness at play here.
These people are into children.
Just sick predators.
Yeah.
I mean, I could see somebody maybe offering you money or a gig or trying to get you in
with a network and then again, just perhaps if that was enticing enough and then you did
something that they didn't like, you could go down the same road as Chris Hansen.
Is that something that you're afraid of?
Do you want to get picked up?
I mean, if someone came along and, you know, like the Blaze or I don't know, I'm just throwing
out networks.
I have no idea if you have any interest in them.
I'm just saying Fox News or CNN or obviously I'm just saying, I'm just saying if some
network or some group wanted to kind of come alongside, is that something you even entertain?
Do you want to stay solo or how does that work?
Yeah, so I was actually about to get a $2 million a year deal from the blaze and then
we released that Mormon cash and Glenn Beckett blocked me and my bank account was empty.
But no, man, I mean, look, if a network offered us money to say, "Hey, do exactly what you're
doing now, but we just want to use the footage on our thing," I'd probably say yes to it.
But if there's any stipulation that I think would get in the way of getting someone convicted,
I would not do it.
Yeah.
You know what I was going to say though, because obviously your catches are super good.
The only thing I would say is to just up the production.
You obviously have the funds.
You obviously have the funds for it, so you could have that crazy production.
Well the thing is, we just released so many in a month that it's like putting in a shit
ton of effort into making it all a big production.
I don't think that we can release all that if we do it in a month.
I meant not like production as in like edits or whatever, but like the quality of the footage.
Well it's probably hard to do it undercover, right?
Lenses and cameras and stuff, you know, lighting.
Yeah.
I mean you could obviously afford the production and people will like that.
Yeah I agree, I agree man.
I don't know, I mean I'm a techno talker, if you have any tips let me know.
And let me know, I think it was in the last catch you did, the Norm McDonald guy, I could
be wrong, but you were like, screw you rumble faggots, like I'm going on locals, like what
happened?
Well, so I got a lot of positive comments about that on the video, but basically, so
that was our first live stream we've done in a while where we streamed it on rumble
publicly and then lo and behold the cops get called randomly without any of us doing it.
So I was pretty pissed off because it was two hours in the catch, I wasn't getting anything
out of him, but I wasn't trying to give up either, so then having the cops randomly roll
up really pissed me off and irked me, so I was like, "Yeah, fuck you rumble faggot, it's
always fucking shit up," so that's kind of what, so I mean whatever, I mean in the moment
I definitely meant it, and I still kind of do, but not as much as I did about it.
Yeah, I'd be pissed about that.
So they interfered with your catch, man, how's that, you can't spoil the show.
Yeah, I don't know if it was one of them or not, there's a chance it might have just been
somebody at the gym that it happened at, but I was pissed off, it was easy to blame them
to be honest.
So it was like, whatever.
I mean, I could be right, but I don't have any proof, but I was just irked.
Well, it's really frustrating to me because I feel like a lot of churches and even people
that I like or are Baptist, they don't really want to talk about these issues, they don't
really bring up what the Bible says about them and they're really weak and they're really
lame.
And it's really sad to me to see you rebuking people and saying like, "Man, it's such a
godless country, a nation," and you're actually taking a stand when a lot of Christians,
a lot of Baptists aren't really pushing out against the epidemic that's happening.
A lot of people aren't fighting the good fight as the Bible describes it.
And so I really appreciate people that are willing to go out there and do the dirty work,
go out there and try to actually catch some of this evil because if you don't do it, who's
going to do it, right?
I mean, I know there's other people that have some channels and stuff, but I kind of think
some of those people probably aren't even doing it out of sincerity.
They just want to get viral.
They just want the attention.
And when I watch your videos and I hear you talk, it doesn't really even feel to me like
this was something like, "Hey, I just want to see how famous I can get."
You just genuinely want to catch evil people and what they're doing.
And I think that's why you've been successful and had a lot of following because people
can kind of see the sincerity and your genuineness.
And so I definitely really appreciate that.
Do you feel like people support you like from a religious perspective or do you feel like
Christians are too empathetic with these individuals or like what's kind of your viewpoint?
Yeah, I got some comments on that.
So as for being sincere, yeah, our goal first and foremost is to get them convicted.
I don't ask for any money to show up to court.
You know, I show up no matter where I drop everything to go to court and following up
with evidence, that's what we do.
Of course, on the other hand, do I want the videos to get as many views as possible and
do I want to make money from this?
100%, but none of that will get in the way of getting these people convicted and that's
our first and foremost goal.
And I think people do see that and they do see the work we put in and whatever we get
from it, good, I'll happily take it.
As for Christians, yeah, so I know obviously you guys aren't like, I know you guys are
like total pedo death for sure, but we caught a guy in Huntington, Oregon who was a sex
offender, and he was going after what he thought was a 13 year old girl.
He molested a 10 year old.
And you know, Huntington, Oregon is like a very small town, 500 people, everybody knows
each other.
So the cops were talking to him, and I was just kind of striking up a conversation with
a lady who lived like down the street.
And you know, she's very Christian.
And she was telling me that at the church, the pastor's like, we have to give everybody
second chances.
And I'm just like, well, that's just fucking horse shit.
I mean, you can't like, okay, I get it.
If you were a robber, okay, yeah, I second chance.
You were a thief.
Okay.
Second chance.
You know, if you were an arsonist, even second chance, but if you're a pedo, I don't believe
any second chances for that.
I mean, that's not really me being a Jew, me being Christian, anything like that.
That's, that's more, I mean, obviously believe in, believe in God, but nah, man, I don't
that that's, that's insane.
There shouldn't be any empathy towards these people.
And you know, it's a shame that like, I know the Bible apparently more than that pastor,
like I know that you got to tie a millstone around their neck and throw them in the ocean.
Why that pastor?
I don't understand that.
Yeah.
I think a lot of Christianity is pretty castrated in that regard.
You're no 100% accurate right there.
Yeah.
And Christianity hasn't always been like that.
Historically speaking, obviously America was founded as a Christian nation.
If you look at the laws of Connecticut of 1673, I believe it was the correct year, they
basically just took the Bible's laws and just applied them as their own.
They're putting people to death for virtually everything the Bible says, for being a homosexual,
for murder, for rape, for all these different crimes that the Bible has the death penalty
for.
And of course, a pedophile.
I mean, if you can't believe in the death penalty for a pedophile, I just don't understand
what's going on in your heart.
Like, you just seem like a super wicked person and it's very antithetical to Christianity.
It's such a strange application.
They take things out of context as far as loving your enemies or loving your neighbors
yourself.
And it's like, yeah, but I don't care who it is.
If it's my brother or Siamese twin that's a pedo, put him to death.
It's just like, that's so gross and disgusting.
And even one of the most famous serial killers, we featured him in our LGBT terrorist film
Jeffrey Dahmer.
He basically just admitted in prison.
He said like, don't let me out because I'll just keep doing it.
Like he wanted to be put to death or locked up or whatever, just because he knew he was
going to do all these horrible things if they let him out.
So it's like people think it's a perverted form of justice, but many of them do want
death, many of them recognize their need to be put down because they're kind of like a
drug addict is addicted to drugs, they're addicted to this evil and this horrible filth
and they know they can't stop and we just have to literally put them down.
A dog that has rabies, you just got to put it down.
Certain things just need to be discarded and it's just crazy to me how much liberal garbage
Christianity is out there that is empathizing, praying for, allowing these people in churches.
I saw a big mega church pastor saying literally that they let homosexuals and these people
be in their kids' programs and there's no link to pedophilia whatsoever and it's just
crazy the world that we live in and I feel like bad Christianity is a main reason why
our culture is not treating these people correctly. It's not handling the situations correctly
and why legislation even is not necessarily going forth the way it should. I hope that
Christians will actually wake up and maybe hear some of the things you're saying or see
some of the videos and recognize like these people are not the people that Christ is telling
you to love.
They're not people.
Well, they're brute beasts.
They're brute beasts made to be taken and destroyed, 2 Peter chapter 2.
Dogs.
I know, I 100% agree, I mean, the, like, however they interpret the Bible, I mean,
use your, use your human survival instinct.
Okay.
And a lot of times it'll be in line with the religious text there.
Use your human survival instinct to think that this guy does not need to be around children
or in society and put him to death like, like, and I get it, like, you know, a lot of people
like to say, oh, well, only God can judge.
Well, I don't know what, I don't know y'all's views on that.
I don't give a fuck.
I'm going to judge somebody for touching a kid.
No.
Why do we have judges then?
Why do we have judges?
That's garbage.
That's horse manure.
The Bible says, "He that is spiritual judgeth all things."
And there is a time and a place, and when we're talking about some of the most disgusting
filth imaginable, when we're talking about literal degenerate dogs that are hurting children,
yes, that is a time to judge.
It is a normal human reaction.
Well, Jesus said, "Judge not according to appearance, but judge righteous judgment."
Yeah, amen.
And again, obviously judging is just making an opinion, forming an opinion.
What is the stupidity?
Oh, I don't judge.
So you don't make decisions in your life?
Yeah.
Obviously, the Bible does give caveats.
We shouldn't judge when we're a hypocrite about it.
Obviously, if you've got two 40s in your hand, it'd be weird to judge somebody else
for drinking alcohol, but when you're not just being an overt hypocrite about the judgments
that you're making, the Bible's really clear that we should make judgments and we use the
Bible as our source for those judgments.
The problem is most people don't read the Bible, they have no idea what it even says.
Our country's turned into just a liberal hellhole and it's allowing for just the worst people
to go around.
I mean, I think Psalm 12 even kind of alludes to this about when people that are wicked
are being praised, then we just see the wicked-
The wicked walk on every side.
And the vilest men are exalted, the wicked walk on every side.
And the vilest men, people like Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, we see all kinds of people that
are pretty much just open, child molesters and pedophiles being praised, lifted up, exalted,
put in high positions of power and authority, it emboldens a lot of these other predators
to go out and do whatever.
And many of them are not getting caught, obviously.
They seem to have zero fear of getting caught, zero fear of God, obviously.
And it's really gross to see that happening.
And I think it hurts the testimony of Christianity.
I don't know.
Are you religious at all?
Yeah.
I'm not too religious.
I believe in God and all that stuff, but I'm not too religious, no.
And I'm just curious, because again, to me, it just feels like it ruins the testimony
of Christians when all these Christians are so weak and lame.
But you know, the real Christians in the world would never tolerate this filth.
They think it's disgusting.
They're on your side.
They would support what you're doing.
I definitely support what you're doing.
And you know, Jesus Christ, who said literally that these pedophiles would have a millstone
tied around their neck and thrown in the depths of the sea, is also the one that does give
us salvation.
And you know, the Bible makes it clear that salvation is not available but for these people.
So there's no reason to keep them around.
They've lost their chance of ever believing on the Lord Jesus Christ and getting saved.
And I mean, the Bible does make it clear that salvation is a free gift.
It's just offered by faith alone and what Jesus does for us, his death, brown resurrection.
He paid all of our sins.
But the Bible does teach, and this is where it's hard for people to think, oh, so you're
saying pedophiles can go to heaven or these child rapists and stuff.
But the Bible teaches there's some people that never want to believe in Jesus.
And as a result of that, he gives them over to a reprobate mind and they end up doing
these unimaginable things that a normal person would never do.
A normal guy would never be homosexual, he'd never molest children, they're gross to him.
And that's why the Bible says they're vile affections.
And the only reason someone does that is because they hate the gospel, they hate the Bible,
they hate God in their heart and God is punishing them for having rejected him.
And so the Bible makes it abundantly clear salvation is a free gift offered to all, but
there are people that will reject it and as a result, they turn to these predators and
pedophiles that we see everywhere.
And it's just not a popular message today to preach the reprobate doctrine and explain
these things, but it's directly correlated to the gospel that salvation is a free gift
just by faith in Jesus Christ, he paid on the cross fall of our sins, and those who
put 100% faith in Christ go to heaven.
But everyone else that rejects it goes to hell, including especially these pedophiles
who are going to be in the lowest hell.
And I hope that other Christians haven't ruined their testimony and made it to where
the gospel isn't appealing to you because the gospel is appealing, but sometimes I think
people are turned off at the idea of these pedophiles or these people that you're catching
also just going to heaven.
Is that something that's ever maybe made you question like Christianity or hear these things,
the idea of like these pedophiles going to heaven or something like that?
Well for sure, you know, because you got to think and I was telling Cassidy this a few
months ago, I was like, "All right, well, if you're a Muslim and you're a good father
and raising your kids right and you're not leading them into any degenerate bullshit or
you know what I mean, like any of that stuff, if you think Christianity is a guy in camo
with a machine gun and you think it's a guy in camo with a machine gun and then TikTok
of people shaking their ass and just promoting gay shit and pedophilia, why would they want
to become Christian?
Yeah, I mean, Muslims really make fun of Christianity a lot because there's a lot of fake Christianity
out there.
I mean, the Bible even says, "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether
they're of God," because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
And we see that TD Jakes, Kenneth Copeland with his 10 different jet planes, even in
Houston where you're at.
I mean, I have a church in Houston and Houston is filled with false prophets, all kinds of
just ridiculous.
I mean, the guy is a joke, he's got money in the bathroom walls or whatever of his church.
And you know, there's all these just fake apostates.
And you know, at least Muslims, well, I don't like, you know, their religion at all.
You know, at least they throw, you know, sodomites and pedophiles off roofs and stuff.
I mean, at least they got one thing right.
Well, yeah, I think Islam at this point is probably globally the most uncuffed religion
there is.
I mean, I'm saying this is a Jew, I mean, you know, seeing my fellow Jew, I mean, it's
sad to see it, man.
I mean, it's sad to see that a lot of them just are with the bullshit.
But yeah, I mean, trust me, I don't want any Muslim refugees coming into the country.
But like, you know, it's just seeing how they do shit in the Middle East, like, I don't
think the Taliban is any more evil than our own government.
You know what I mean?
Like, I just think it's different, nor do I think the Taliban is necessarily even evil.
Like, you know, they just run their country the way they run their country, and that's
okay.
Well, the Taliban's open about it.
Yeah.
Our government just lies.
Yeah, I mean, I think there's a cloak that's covering the deceitfulness and the wickedness
of our nation.
There's definitely a lot of wickedness in high places.
I think that America, especially our government, is probably the worst, considering some of
the individuals that are involved.
But I think that evil has as many forms.
There's not just one particular party that's evil.
What's sad and embarrassing is how bad our government is, that people will then think
that Islam or Muslims are somehow righteous.
I mean, that just goes to show the reproach on our nation right now and how disgusting
it is.
Because true Christianity in America from times past would have seemed much different
than Islam.
Islam has some serious issues, and Muslims have a lot of problems when it comes to morality.
But of course, again, they're definitely not necessarily going the woke agenda.
They're completely opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to that.
Well, Muhammad was a pedophile.
Yeah, but that's the thing.
Well, yeah, yeah.
But it's a breath of fresh air, though, just seeing like, because obviously modern-day
Judeo-Christian values are obviously pretty fucked up, so just what you see from the majority
of it.
But so, Islam is definitely a breath of fresh air, just one religion saying, "Oh my god,
there is two genders.
Oh, we don't like pedophiles."
That's like, "Oh, wow."
I mean, by default, you're the only good one at this point.
That's because they say Judeo-Christian.
There's no such thing as Judeo-Christian.
It should just be Christian.
No, I know, but I'm saying like, yeah, I'm saying like just what you see from Jews and,
you know, just the average Jew and Christian is just like, "Oh, forgiveness.
Oh, this and that."
Jesus Christ, dude, it's terrible.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, I'm worried that all this fake Christianity is definitely causing a lot of people to want
to turn away from the Bible or the truth when that's, of course, not what the Bible teaches
whatsoever.
The Bible does not extend forgiveness to pedophiles and sodomites and things like that.
The Bible has the death penalty for many things that people will be very offended by.
You mentioned Chris Hansen.
The Bible says that people should be put to death for adultery and, obviously, that would
be really unpopular if that was the law today.
Wait, but then we couldn't elect Trumps and stuff.
How would that work?
Trump?
Yeah.
Trump definitely has a lot of serious issues.
I don't understand how Christians support Trump as wholeheartedly as they do.
At the end of the day, he does seem like a lesser evil than Biden, but at the same time,
he doesn't seem necessarily like this white riding horse of righteousness.
He's not saved?
No.
Is Trump your favorite person, Ben?
I wasn't going to ask you.
Are you not a Trump guy?
Well, I mean, I just wish there was somebody that came in and just abolished like 95% of
the federal government.
I mean, I just hate paying so much in taxes.
I mean, it's fucking ridiculous.
There should be an income tax.
And Trump just doubled the debt.
He pushed the poison shot and, you know, he's really, I mean, was he better than Biden
despite all that?
Yes.
But it's like, dude, if your standard is Joe Biden as the bar you need to clear, then
we need to find somebody else.
He literally brags that he's the father of the vaccine.
Still to this day, like in a recent video I saw he was boasting about it.
What about Nikki Haley?
I mean, she's, she's definitely not part of the establishment or anything.
So well, I mean, Nikki Haley should be the, the, the true Christian candidate because
she would probably blow up the most Muslims.
So I mean, maybe I'll should get behind her.
I thought that she was Hindu or whatever.
Yeah.
But like, but you got to think you got to use her to your advantage.
She would, she would, she would make, well, uh, she probably hates Christians too.
I don't know.
Nikki.
Hindus.
I don't know.
Everybody's a Hindu.
Vivek.
Oh my gosh.
Narada or whatever her name is.
Trump's the only true Christian.
Yeah.
Trump.
His favorite bio versus two Corinthians.
Two Corinthians, two Corinthians.
He's definitely.
What's that?
Uh, well, it's really second Corinthians.
Yeah.
He has, he has issues.
Well, I mean, y'all do you support Trump or I know Cassidy doesn't, but like, do you
feel?
No, it's just the letter of two evils.
I mean, the thing is Trump, Trump, Trump's one of those people, like I understand why
people get behind him and it's not so much because they like Trump.
They just think like, Hey, we're going into full communism and they're, they're really
just kind of like afraid of a full communist takeover of our country.
And so I think that that's kind of where their alignment is.
But at the end of the day, like I wasn't even pro Trump before that, like before even this
most recent election, just because, you know, at some point you would think like if elections
were real, then we should really just stop supporting the lesser of two evils and just
create a new party that actually has a legitimate candidate again.
And you know, kind of thinking of the long game, obviously an independent would never
win the election, even if it was real this year or next year.
But you could slowly have a third party make a difference over, you know, 20 or 30 years
if the whole country just basically stopped voting for the lesser of two evils and said,
"Hey, I'm actually going to have some morality in this country."
I think a lot of European countries have multi-party systems.
And I think really we, that's the only way forward for America is honestly creating a
new party that's going to be more of like a, like a immoral party, one that's actually
going to stand and have some conviction and not change, not going to like next year they're
basically Democrat light or left leaning Democrats.
I mean the Republicans change on their position so much at this point, Obama would have been
a right wing extremist if he was running as a Republican, you know, in today's age saying
that he's not for homosexual marriage and all kinds of things.
So it's just shifting so much so rapidly that I would think a legitimate candidate would
actually stand a chance, but at the same time, you know, election, there's probably too much
election interference and issues there that I don't even know if it matters.
You know, China has a lot of influence in our movies in Hollywood.
China?
China has all the influence in Hollywood.
I saw a post about that on this page called The Typical Liberal and everybody's just like
saying otherwise.
Well, how many people in the CCP are on the presidential cabinet?
I think it's like all of them.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I think they own every single bank and I think they're every single presidential candidate
member and I think they own AIPAC, pretty much all of those organizations.
I think actually six million Chinese people, or no, six gorillion Chinese people died
in World War II and so I want to make sure that we are not continuing harmful stereotypes
and tropes that would cause us to be racist against Chinese people.
That's all you.
Right.
That's all you.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
And then we give China billions a year in funding for their military.
Exactly.
Oh my God.
Oh, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
Yeah, we're going to help China destroy Taiwan.
Don't they go to the Great Wall of China?
Yes.
Yes, absolutely.
I do think in all fairness, I'll be that guy and say that I think Donald Trump has
a lot of redeeming qualities in the sense of lots, tons of redeeming qualities.
He's clearly like hated so badly by the left and by the media and I think that of all the
candidates he's probably the least likely to get us into a war of some kind of foreign,
you know, nation building or regime change or something.
But obviously the vaccine issue, he's pro-homo, those are legitimate problems.
But I think he does have some good things about him.
Well, the thing is with Trump, like, I mean, if they really look, I mean, if they really
look into themselves and think nobody's actually supporting Donald Trump, all they're supporting
is like the middle finger to just the media, the middle finger to the establishment, the
middle finger, everything.
Yeah.
Trump is like the battering ram.
They think he's the battering ram for that, but he's not, I like to say, like, just because
somebody's a politician, not a politician, doesn't mean they're not an outsider.
Trump has donated to Hillary Clinton, donated to both Republicans and Democrats.
He's not an outsider.
He's just not a politician, or he's not an outsider.
He's just, yeah, so, I mean, you know, people get too warped into, they worship man instead
of God, and that's how you get Trump to go by them.
That is a big problem with Christianity as well.
Well, here's the thing, Trump, or sorry, they're not, they're not coming after Trump.
They're coming after us.
Trump is just in the way.
Well, I do think that that's true.
I think a lot of the hate is not really geared towards Trump, because I think he gets falsely
accused, but it's not so much that their accusations are really labeled against Trump.
They're just using Trump as a label to attack Christian nationalism or to attack all kinds
of different movements that support Donald Trump.
And again, I don't think those movements necessarily like the man.
They're more just, hey, we have kind of one option here, and they're just kind of trying
to use Trump and guide Trump for their particular agenda.
And the hate's coming to try and dissuade Trump from supporting those people from getting
along with those people.
Like, you know, again, the big one was like the white nationalists.
And I think he said like dozens of times like, I don't support white nationalists or whatever.
But at the same time, I think they wanted to demonize him on that because they know
that all the white nationalists are probably still going to vote for Trump no matter what
he said.
And they're just trying to get him to like poison his own well or disavow some of his
own voters or to get people to turn against him as well.
They love to ask the same questions over and over.
Do you condemn white supremacy?
It's like, like, obviously, it's like this is such a made up thing.
Yeah.
But it's like we have human trafficking, people coming across the border illegally, drugs.
We have all kinds of bribes going on with foreign government officials.
Is white supremacy really our worst issue?
It's a fake issue.
It's like are those the worst people in our country?
It's fake.
Like, it's like, would you rather have the drug cartel as your next door neighbor or
a white supremacist?
Well, for white supremacy, they just mean Christians.
Yeah.
And again, these labels are over the top.
But it's like, I think somebody put out on Twitter, it was a poll, it was like, would
you rather have like a homo babysit your kid or a Nazi?
And it was like, everybody voted for the Nazi.
And it was just like, it was just kind of funny because it's like, it's true though.
I mean, and again, it's not to say that you're like pro Nazi or anything like that.
It's just kind of funny how they kind of make some of the people that obviously have issues
to be the biggest bad guys when there's just so many obvious bad guys out there that we're
just not going to talk about or address or deal with whatsoever.
Yeah, and they're like, "Oh my god, Trump is like this super Christo-fascist."
And I'm like, "Oh, wait, is he actually?
Oh, he's not?
Damn."
Like, if he was actually like what the left said he was, I would love him, but he's not.
So if he was actually what they accused him of being, I would be like, "I'll be wearing
a MAGA hat right now," but anyway, guys, I got to get going.
Hey, thanks so much for joining us on the show.
Dude, thank y'all so much for having me on, if y'all ever want to do it again in a couple
of months, just let me know.
Y'all are awesome, so nice to meet y'all.
Yeah, we'd love to follow up.
Yeah, hell yeah.
Just let me know.
And make sure, if you want to, check out some of our films, sodomytedeception.com, check
out the LGBT Terrace.
I'm sure Cassidy could send them over to you.
They might give you a different taste of Christianity.
Also, I know you're not that religious, but we want you to become a Baptist.
We have the Baptist bias, so hopefully maybe you'll change your mind on that and get the
Baptist bias.
All right.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate you'll have me on, and rest assured, Cassidy will send me as much as he possibly
can as he always does.
All right.
Thank you all.
God bless, Alex.
Have a great night.
You too.
Bye.
Well, that was great to have another guest on there.
Again, I know that he's not a Christian, he's not a Baptist yet, but maybe one day
he'll change his mind on that.
Hopefully, he'll check out some of our films and you know, hey, I'm just at least glad
somebody out there trying to catch these predators because we need more people to do something.
It's sad how many Christians are trying to love predators into heaven when they're destined
for hell and at least people like him are going out there and trying to catch these
people and stop a lot of the evil.
You know, the Bible says faith that works is dead and I feel like a lot of people there,
they're praying that somehow a child won't be injured by these predators, but they do
nothing and then there's individuals like him who are actually going out there and trying
to make a difference in this world and you know, we need more Christians to actually
do something and hey, here's something you do, share the sodomite deception, share LGBT
terrorists, get plugged in to your local church and of course, if you want to stop reprobates,
you know, the best thing to do is get people saved because if you get a child saved, if
you get young people saved, they can never become a reprobate.
That's how you eliminate a lot of child predators from ever happening, is getting people saved.
We need to preach against false religion.
False religion is churning out reprobates and these pedophiles like hotcakes and so,
you know, you need to get the Baptist bias on this and we need to stop having this pedophile
loving attitude that's a fake form of Christianity.
It just makes me mad.
I know you, Cassidy, you went to a couple of churches and you even ran into some of
these pastors or people, you know, is this nauseating to hear them talk about this?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
But to me, it's kind of crazy how people fall for it.
Like how do you go to this church and just I mean, they go for they go there for years
to the people love it and stuff.
It's like, do you've never read the Bible?
I mean, come on, how do you keep going here?
It's like obvious they don't.
Well, thanks so much for coming on the show and bringing up our diversity.
We didn't even have 0% black to get 2% is a pretty big privilege.
And we really we really needed that.
So thanks for coming on the show.
Do you have any last plugs you want to give us their Cassidy?
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Thanks again for coming on the show.
Ben, do you have any thoughts for us before we wrap up this evening?
Go soul winning.
If you're repulsed by what you heard today about these predators and what they're doing
to victimize children, well, go soul winning because the more people that get saved, the
more people who get saved and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, we know what that's one
less person who now cannot become a reprobate.
That's one more person who's sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise and cannot become a
child of the devil who now has eternal security.
So I think really the big theme that I want to leave people with the application if this
were a sermon is simply this, go soul winning if you want to try to make a difference in
this fight.
Well, and of course, this show is not a sermon by any stretch of the imagination, definitely
rough around the edges.
And I hope that you forgive us on any of those things.
But you know, sometimes when we get to the down and dirty and we interview different
people, you know, it's kind of a, it's a, it's a rough message.
We can't control what people say.
And yeah, we can't control everything they're going to get on and give people some grace.
But at the end of the day, you know, we want to at least get out there, see what's going
on.
We don't want to just hide our eyes and pretend like nothing's happening.
That's going to be pretty much do it for us this week.
Make sure to check us out next week, The Baptist Bias, Tuesday nights, 8pm.
You want to catch it live.
We got call ins, live chat, everything.
That's going to do it for us this evening tonight.
Thanks so much for joining us.
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