Thanks for joining me on the Baptist Bias.
It's a special show here in the studio by myself
and I just wanted to make a video
about this controversial subject of marital rape.
Now, I do want to give a viewer a discretion advice
because at the end of the day,
this isn't an adult topic and it uses even the word rape,
which I don't really like to talk about with kids anyways.
So just viewer discretion advice.
I may even warn that a couple of different times.
You know, when we talk about this particular subject,
it's kind of a crazy subject that feminists have hijacked
and really even put it out there as like a real thing
that within the bounds of marriage,
you could have quote rape.
And I'm going to be reading the Wikipedia article
on this particular subject.
And we just, we're going to talk about it.
But you know, really to destroy this idea,
I just thought you just read what Wikipedia says about it.
And it's kind of like almost enough said.
Now, we'll go to some bioverses as well too,
but it is a stream.
If you have any questions or something
you want to throw in the chat, you can.
I'll be trying to do my best to look at the chat as well.
It's Friday.
It's the best day.
I'm excited about it.
So let's go ahead and see if we can pull up
this article, marital rape.
So this is from Wikipedia specifically.
This is their article about it.
I'm going to see, maybe I can move this.
I don't want to get anything cut off.
And so I'm going to move that just a hair.
There we go.
That's probably a little bit better.
OK.
So we're looking at marital rape Wikipedia.
It's an actual just web page.
And it says here, marital rape or spousal rape
is the act of sexual intercourse with one spouse
with the spouse's consent.
Again, I'm going to be reading this article.
It uses adult language.
I don't recommend this show for kids,
just because it's like, you know, at the end of the day,
kids just probably don't need to be hearing about this.
This is weird anyways.
But I do want to address this particular issue
and talk about it.
So again, viewer discretion advised.
It's saying the idea that you can, quote, "rape your spouse,"
and it says, without their, quote, "consent."
That's really what's the definition here of the rape,
is without the consent.
It says it's usually done to a wife or woman by her husband.
Usually, apparently, this goes both ways.
Weird.
So the lack of consent is the essential element
and does not always involve physical violence.
And I think this is important because when pastors
or preachers have gotten up and said,
"Hey, there's no such thing as rape in marriage,"
and they're really fighting this feminist idea,
they're not addressing this violent issue
because obviously violence is a completely different subject.
Obviously, the Bible condemns the idea
of beating, punching your wife,
of just abusing your wife physically
in some kind of a gruesome way.
Anything like that would obviously fall in just violence.
It has nothing to do with having sexual relationships
with your spouse.
Obviously beating or tying them up or harming or injuring,
Bible has lots of verses that condemn the idea of harming people, physically injuring them. Obviously,
any of that kind of stuff is just off the table. And this particular article is not addressing that.
It's like, no, we want to talk about the quote, the consent element. And again, that's usually what
this argument is around is not physical violence, but usually the consent issue. Because notice it
says the lack of consent is the essential element. So the essential element is not physical violence
here. The essential element is consent. Now, for all of us that have a brain in our head,
we believe that consent was given when you said I do. That's the whole point of marriage. I mean,
that's the whole reason why men and women are getting married. First Corinthians chapter seven
addresses this and makes it clear that's the reason why men get married is so they can have
a physical relationship with their spouse. And so this is just kind of a weird idea, a modern idea,
a feminist idea of this quote "rape" within marriage. Now it says here marital rape is considered
a form of domestic violence and sexual abuse although historically sexual intercourse within
marriage was regarded as a right of spouses. Engaging the act without the spouse's consent
is now widely classified as rape by many societies around the world and increasingly criminalized,
however remains unacknowledged by some more conservative cultures. So yeah again obviously
the conservatives are saying rape within marriage is ridiculous, it doesn't make sense. When you say
I do you consented and so this modern feminist idea that has even gotten to the point where it's
changed the laws in this country is just weird, wicked, makes no sense and it's just outright
feminism. You read this article it's super clear. Let's keep reading here. It says hey some people
aren't recognizing it. Yeah like I'm not recognizing marital rape is a legit thing. Super weird.
The issues of sexual and domestic violence within marriage and the family unit and more specifically
the issue of violence against women have come to growing international attention from the second
half of the 20th century. Still in many countries marital rape either remains outside the criminal
law or is illegal but widely tolerated. Laws are rarely enforced due to factors ranging from
reluctance of authorities to pursue the crime the lack of public knowledge that sexual intercourse
in marriage without consent is illegal. So he's saying even though we've we've tied we've changed
the tide and even though things have been evolving and even though people are recognizing this for
the most part many people are not recognizing this is super tolerated people don't even realize this
is illegal because frankly speaking who would want to even dream this up this is this bizarre
it's crazy it's weird this is just stupidity at an all-time high now i'm going to keep reading here
marital rape is more widely experienced by women though not exclusively so you know some guy out
there is getting raped by his wife whatever that means marital rape is often a chronic form of
violence for the victim which takes place within abusive relations it exists in a complex web of
state governments cultural practices and societal ideologies which combine to influence each distinct
instance and situation in varying ways the reluctance to divine non-consensual sex between
married couples is a crime and a prosecute has been attributed to traditional views of marriage
interpretations of religious doctrines ideas about male and female sexuality and to cultural
expectations of subordination of a wife to her husband so notice what it's saying saying the
reason why people would not want to believe in this quote marital rape doctrine is number one
a traditional view of marriage number two having some kind of religious belief number three
understanding there's a difference between men and women sexually number four is that wives are
supposed to submit to their husbands how could anybody even argue with any of these logic any of
these points any of these doctrines this is just self-explanatory yeah obviously men have the rule
over their wives and obviously the whole point of marriage is to have physical relations so it just
makes absolute no sense to suggest that there's somehow quote rape in marriage yeah i i agree
this is you know these are normal ways to combat this nonsense says views which continue to be
common in many parts of the world these views of marriage and sexuality started to be challenged
in most western countries from the 1960s and 70s especially by second wave feminism leading to an
acknowledgement of the woman's right to self-determination of all matters relating to
her body and the withdrawal of the exemption or defense of marital rape so notice the article
itself is saying this is second wave feminism it's not even first wave it's second wave and
notice not until the 1960s and 70s did this even come into the idea of like popular culture or
people pushing these ideas and it's only western cultures for any like reasonable bible believing
conservative out there all of these are just red flags 60s and 70s red flag second wave feminism
that should be like five red flags by itself the fact that it's about women's right to self
determination i mean this this is just nonsensical stuff no one should be adhering to this feminism
idea this is crazy now i'm going to keep reading we have some we have some questions being poured
in i'm going to address them here in a minute article says most countries criminalized marital
rape from the late 20th century onward very few legal systems allowed for the prosecution of rape
within marriage before the 1970s so here's the thing almost everybody universally agreed even
court systems countries laws lawmakers just almost everybody is believing that marital rape isn't a
thing isn't possible doesn't exist prior to the 1970s as far as a criminal element says criminalization
has occurred through various ways and this is going to bring up some uh recent more cases on this
it says including removal of statutory exemptions from the defend the definitions of rape judicial
decisions explicit legislation reference and statutory law preventing the use of marriage
as a defense or creation of a special offense of marital rape albeit at a lower level of punishment
in many countries it is still unclear whether mental rape is covered by the ordinary rape laws
but in some countries non-consensual sexual relations involving coercion may be prosecuted
under general statutes prohibiting violence such as assault and battery laws of course again
i'm not advocating for assault i'm not advocating for battery i'm not advocating for harming and
physically damaging your spouse obviously that's foolish nonsense and in any level of escalation
is criminalized in pretty much the whole world and always been criminalized they've had assault and
battery laws on the books for a long period of time the rape is a completely different element
the separate element so we can't combine these two things and say that they're they're the same
so anytime we're talking about marital rape and anybody saying that i don't believe that that
exists or that should be criminalized we're not talking about physical assault we're not talking
about physical harm because obviously those cross other boundaries it's a different conversation
so it says historically in much of the world rape was seen as a crime of tort or theft of a man's
property usually either a husband or father in this case property damage meant that the crime was
not legally recognized as damage against the victim but instead to her father or husband's
property therefore by definition a husband could not rape his wife the view that a husband could
not be charged with the rape of his wife was described by sir matthew hale surround the 1600s
in history of the pleas of the crown published posthumously in 1736 where he wrote that the
husband cannot be guilty of a rape committed by himself upon his lawful wife for by their
mutual consent and contract the wife have given herself given up herself in this kind under
her husband which she cannot retract when you got married you gave consent and you can't
give it back also American and English law subscribed until the 20th century to the system
of curvature that is a legal doctrine under which upon marriage a woman's legal rights
were subsumed by those of her husband the implication was that once unified by marriage
a spouse could no longer be charged with raping one's spouse anymore than could be charged
with raping oneself so it's essentially saying that hey once you become one flesh some things
are different you can't harm yourself in that way and so it's not a harmful thing in the
sense that also also the argument being brought up that in the Bible if you took someone's
virginity you'd have to pay the dowry to the father obviously we're not talking about adultery
or those kind of things you know when it comes to someone else's wife obviously adultery
you're violating his property and his rights and you're violating the father's rights and
his dowry so obviously those things were similar and of course those would be primes there's
a difference between things that are a good idea and things that are crimes and so this
is the legal justification for a crime and so we have to basically describe you know
what what is a really a crime and it's just saying you just can't criminally be prosecuted
for quote raping your wife even even if it's not a good idea it's just saying even if
someone did something stupid we're not it's not a crime now it's as many jurisdictions
including all 50 united states had criminalized marital rape by the 1990s so i guess every
american before 1990s that did not believe in this was crazy weird psychotic i mean praise
god for the 1990s and second wave feminism to go ahead and correct all of us on this
really important issue right says english common law also had a great impact on many
legal systems of the world through colonization um here's some more this article is just it's
just funny to me says here's uh kirstie hello i don't know how to say this name states in
the prologue of understanding marital rape in a global context quote in some cultures
consent is not even something that an individual wife can give the families that arrange the
marriage guarantee her permanent consent control over a wife's sexuality was only a part of
the greater control that men had in all other areas concerning her husband's control over
his wife's body could also be seen in the way of adultery between a wife and another
man was constructed for example in 1707 English Lord Chief Justice John Holt described the
act of a man having sexual relations with another man's wife as quote the highest invasion
of property for this reason many cultures there was a conflation between the crimes
of rape and adultery since both were seen and understood as a violation of the rights
of the husband spousal spousal rape was considered a property crime against the husband not
against a woman's right to self-determination so I'm gonna I'm gonna put that on the screen
here notice again it's saying like arranged marriages this isn't even possible you have
an arranged marriage you know it's not even the wife's consent it's like the family's
consent now again I'm not pro arranged marriages like that's not how I want to do it but historically
that happened and there would be a huge issue if you have this arranged marriage and then
the husband doesn't have relations his wife he's paying for it he's marrying her it's
just how it works it's just how things make sense let's keep reading it says the property
to be withheld and a female was her virginity this was the commodity following this line
of logic a woman was and still is in many cultures across the globe first the property
of her father then upon marriage the property of her husband therefore a man could not be
prosecuted for raping his own wife because she was his possession however another man
raped someone else's wife this was essentially stealing property it says English customs
bride capture was thought to be stealing a father's property by raping his daughter therefore
rape laws were created to protect the property interests men had in their women not to protect
women themselves so just saying most laws were about adultery and outside of marriage
it says in some cultures marriage is arranged for the purpose of creating access to procreation
in these situations the parties do not necessarily consent to marriage following this logic if
consent is not part of marriage then it is not necessary for intercourse and it says
the autonomy of the wife is also often compromised in cultures where bride price is paid under
customary law in certain parts of africa for sex and marriage was not prohibited although
some specific circumstances such as during advanced pregnancy immediate after childbirth
during menstruation or during mourning for a deceased close relative were recognized
as giving the wife the right to refuse sex so just saying that you don't have a right
to say no except for in just obvious health situations obvious just some reason that would
make clear sense saying that would be the only exceptions says here rate has been until
recent decades understood as a crime against honor and reputation not only in domestic
legislation but also in international law for example according to the article 27 of
the fourth Geneva Convention women shall be especially protected against any attack on
their honor and particular against rape enforced prostitution or any form of indecent assault
it was not until the 1990s that the International Criminal Court statute recognized crimes of
sexual violence as violent crimes against the person not until the last half century
was rape understood to be an offense against the woman against her dignity against instead
of against her family's or her husband's honor so it's now like trying to say well we try
to change a lot of say like rape is more of a personalized offense as opposed to the property
argument again this is not really addressing them the marriage aspect but legal aspects
so we're moving into another section historically many cultures have had a concept of spouses
conjugal rights to sexual intercourse with each other this can be seen in English common
law in force in Anglo America and the British Commonwealth where the very concept of marital
rape was treated as an impossibility right so the British Commonwealth just Christians
for hundreds of years everybody said this is impossible so it's crazy it's crazy how
some people get up and they'll preach and they'll scream about how everybody's weird
and evil and wicked for believing this but it's like okay so you're just saying everybody
in the 1600s 1700s 800s all of these Christians all of our founding fathers all of these
people that are writing laws based on the Bible they're just all wicked and evil and
just can't see these obvious clear understandings of second-wave feminism that you have I mean
you got you got to think about this in this it says again that sir Matthew Hale had said
in the Historia Placatorium Coronae or history of the pleas of the crown where he wrote that
quote the husband cannot be guilty of a rape committed by himself upon his lawful wife
for by their mutual consent and contract the wife have given up herself in his kind under
husband which he can't retract I think I read a similar quote earlier maybe in the exact
same quote previously in this article so it repeats it again formalization of the marital
rape exemption law so it's talking about how laws have evolved and changed and sir Matthew
Hale's statement in the history of please of the crown did not cite a legal precedent
for it though it relied on earlier standards in the case of lord oddly's so this isn't
like the fifth late fifteen hundred sixteen hundred says for instance Hale cites this
jurist Brackton supported this rule said to have derived from laws of king and then it
gives at least then whereupon the law holds that even where the party of no chase life
but a whore yet there may be ravishment but it is a good plea to say she was his concubine
so these are like just appealing to old laws a lawful marriage legitimizes the conjugal
act itself so quote marital rape is a contradiction in terms this is just historically they're
saying this is impossible historically they're saying this is a contradiction in terms it
can't even exist it doesn't make sense says while a physical assault against a spouse
may be charged such is distinct from the delegitimizing delegitimization of conjugal union itself
as rape so it's saying the laws are making clear distinction between quote we're calling
rape which is not real and physical violence physical violence is a completely separate
act could be punished rape it can't be punished because it's a contradiction in terms says
marriage then should not be defined as quote an exemption to rape but as contradictory
to it so according to quick obedience saying historically lawmakers and lawyers and people
that wrote our laws were saying it's not there's not an exception for rape it's not an exception
it's not an exemption it's contradictory it's so stupid it's so foolish to think that this
could even exist marriage created conjugal rights between spouses and marriage could
not be annulled except by a private act of parliament it therefore follows that a spouse
could not revoke conjugal rights from the marriage and therefore there could be no rape
between spouses the principles repeated an east treatise of the pleas of the crown in
eighteen oh three and archibald's pleading of an evidence in criminal cases in eighteen
twenty two the principles framed as an exemption to the law of rape in a con English courtroom
and arbor versus clarence or clearance but it was not overturned until nineteen ninety
one by the house of lords in the case of rvr in nineteen ninety one where it was described
as an anachronistic and offensive legal fiction sorry i'm having a tough time reading some
of those words but what it's saying is that there was a legal precedent that you could
never rape your spouse it's contradictory until nineteen ninety one in the uk and it's
saying then that's when it's being overturned legally so again for the first nineteen hundred
years of the new testament this has been and again we go well past this you know if
we go back to the old testament of course just from the beginning of time to now everyone's
had the same opinion and it's just praise god for the last 30 years right i think that
the problem with gen z and is that they've grown up in such a weird feminized culture
that they don't understand that things have changed dramatically like homosexuality used
to be illegal um marital rape used to not even be a thing like all of these feminist
ideas all these liberal ideas are just like brand new and so they've grown up in that
so they don't know any different but for a lot of us and and a lot of sane people we're
just thinking like where in the world did this even come from we didn't even know about
it it's crazy uh feminist critique in the 19th century so it says from the beginnings
of the 19th century feminist movement activists challenged the presumed right of men to engage
in forced or coerced sex with their wives it says in the united states the 19th century
women's rights movement fought against the husband's right to control marital intercourse
in a campaign that was remarkably developed prolific and insistent giving uh 19th century
taboos against the public mention of sex or sexuality suffragists including elizabeth
katie stanton and lucy stone singled out a woman's right to control marital intercourse
as the core component of equality so some of the most important you know rights that
women's rights were trying to advocate for that these early stages of feminism were going
for were control over marital intercourse within marriage and so this is a major component
to feminism you cannot extract these ideas from feminism this is feminism at its core
it's saying this is like one of the most important core components of feminism this is what they
were arguing for so if someone says like I'm not a feminist but I you know think this marital
rape doctrine is legit that's contradictory you cannot separate these two ideas you have
to at least admit no I believe in second wave feminism if you're going to believe in this
marital rape nonsense then you have to say I'm at least second wave feminism probably
third and fourth honestly but I mean it at the very minimum your first and second wave
saying your 19th century feminist demands centered on the right of women to control
their bodies and fertility sounds familiar pro-abortion right position consent in marital
sexual relations as an alternative to contraception and abortion which many opposed and also embraced
eugenic concerns about excessive procreation so think about it these women just they don't
they want to turn off the sex because they don't want to have kids and again you know
if you're listening for the first time you just joined in parental advisement warning
i think that only adults should be probably listening to this conversation uh we're using
you know the the language of this article and we're being really explicit in these in
these talking points but it's basically saying women want to stop having sex with their husbands
so they'd stop procreating and it's why so they can just not have kids because they hate
kids because they're satanic feminists are satanic the Bible literally commands the woman
to marry bare children and guide the house like that's just textbook Bible and saying
the women that don't want to get married bare children and guide the house that they've
gone after site gone up to say they turn aside after Satan is what the Bible says like it
can't even be clearer that this is a satanic doctrine to want these things to happen it's
saying here British liberal feminist John Stuart Mill and Harriet Taylor attacked murder
rape as a gross double standard in law and as central to the subordination of women so
they're saying oh man we got to get rid of this subordination of women doctrine which
is what oh yeah the Bible advocates of the free love movement including early anarcho
feminists such as voluntary in day clary sorry I don't know how to pronounce these names
and Emma Goldman as well as Victoria Woodhull Thomas low Nichols and Mary Gove Nichols joined
the critique of marital rape to advocate women's autonomy and sexual pleasure Moses Harmon
a Kansas based publisher an advocate for women's rights was jailed twice under the Comstock
laws for publishing articles by a woman who was victimized and a doctor who treated marital
rape survivors decrying marital rape so this was even funnier it's like people that were
trying to advocate for this position trying to advocate for marital rape were put in jail
just for talking about it can you imagine i mean preachers today are preaching sermons and if they
had preached a sermon in the past they would have been put in jail for decrying marital rape they
would have been jailed they would have been put in prison for what they're doing so again time's not
always on your side look when your doctrine doesn't fit time and understanding history and
understanding conservative ideas like you probably have the wrong idea probably have the wrong
doctrine if all the people that built our nation and conservative christians would have jailed you
for your view maybe you're on the wrong side of this issue this is what's so funny about this
article they're using this as like somehow to appeal to like they're such great heroes
of this movement and i'm thinking like what idiots they're being put in prison for trying
to say oh man you know marital rape diclery defended harman in a well-known article sex
slavery she refused to draw any distinction between rape outside of and within marriage
what in the world did you did you hear that let me read this again she refused to draw any
distinction between rape outside of and within marriage anybody that thinks that rape is the
same within and with outside marriage is a delusional lunatic says quote and this i'm
sorry and that is rape where men force themselves sexually upon a woman whether he's licensed by
the marriage law to do it or not so again she's just saying any anytime a man tries to have
relations with his wife and she's just not interested or whatever then it's now to rape
british philosopher and writer Bertrand Russell in his book marriage and morals
deplored the situation of married women he wrote quote marriage is for woman the most the common
most or the commonest mode of livelihood and the total amount of undesired sex endured by women is
probably greater in marriage than in prostitution so this guy in the 1920s writes some book claiming
that women having you know undesired sex now just undesired like they just weren't that interested
they didn't feel it whatever is is happening it just just extreme rates and it's far worse than
prostitution itself it's like these people don't even have problems with prostitution seems like
they don't even care it's just like this is this this is silly this is this crazy 20th and 21st
century criminalization put a w in the chat if you're enjoying this conversation i'm gonna keep
going for a little longer put an l if you're if you're hating it and there was questions earlier
in the chat um i might address it now just in case it goes away i don't know if if questions
can go away question is do you think it's okay for a husband to force himself on his wife if she
physically resists him you know i think we have to ask this question you know what do we what do we
really mean by these things obviously i've said repeatedly i don't think physical assault is
ever okay like so if there's any kind of violence then i would say no okay when it says force
himself on his wife if she physically resists him you know is it okay are we saying is it okay
criminally or is it okay is like is it a good idea you know i think there's there's different
layers here number one you know if there's violence i'm saying i don't agree with it number
number two if we're talking about is this a crime i would say it's not a crime period which is not
a crime it's it's contradiction it's a contradiction of terms number three is it okay this would be
like is it a good idea i would say like in most cases it's probably not necessary it's not
something that should ever really take place but obviously in extreme scenarios if if a wife has
been married to her husband for months and years and there's just no sex whatsoever and you know
the relationship's just a total train wreck and a guy happens to just you know i i guess just make
it happen without file without violence i can't condemn that now again i think that for most people
that's not even a scenario that's you know it's it's funny we have to talk about these extremely
hypotheticals you know typically when people are preaching against this idea or talking about this
idea they're trying to say well i just think that someone just going and savagely beating their
wife and chaining her to the wall and torturing her is just crazy it's like everybody does
everybody thinks that ted bundy's a serial killer you know it's like nobody wants to dream up these
serial killer psycho thriller moments that you've dreamed up and then then put a rubber
stamp of approval on it but when we're talking about marital rape we're talking about what this
article is actually saying and this article is differentiating from violence and just sex and
marriage and that's what we're fighting against we're fighting against second wave feminism we're
fighting against these ideas and lies that are coming from communists satanists women that don't
want to procreate this is why it's so important uh i think i address that question if you if you
feel like there's a follow-up you can put it in there if permissible is it advisable or wise
again you know when it comes to criminality it's not illegal i don't it should never be illegal
obviously some stupid courts have changed the laws but that's ridiculous that should never be
the law? Is it advisable? Again, you know, to me, it's one of those things that's discretion.
If a husband has gone a super long time, we're talking about months, a year, and he just
makes it happen, I'm not going to condemn the guy, you know, at the end of the day.
Obviously, if you're having regular relations with your wife, you know, you probably should
not ever go down this road. If you're, if you're, you know, just because you want to
have, you know, if just because you want to eat five meals a day and you're getting three,
it's like, yeah, you should probably shouldn't force the issue to five. Okay. That's weird.
Okay. I don't think anybody's really advocating for that either. Right. But, you know, someone
that's having regular relationship with their spouse doesn't need to force the issue beyond
what, you know, getting regular attention. I don't think you should be extra selfish.
Right. At the end of the day. But men have needs, women have needs. And if they have
this need, you know, it's not my right to say no to my wife. It's not her right to
say no to me. We're going to satisfy each other's needs. You know, my wife says, Hey,
I want to scratch my back. I just scratch your back. I don't, I don't refuse it. If
my wife's like, Hey, rub my feet. I just rub her feet. Sometimes they're running her back
and it's like, now rub my feet. It's like, okay, I'll rub your feet. This is how healthy
marriage should be. It's just like, Hey, do this. And it's like, I'm not sitting here
just like, man, I just really want to rub her feet. Man, I just really want to rub her
back. It's just how life works in a healthy marriage. It's just like your wife just says
scratch my back and you scratch it. You tell your wife, hey, rub my shoulders. She rubbed
your shoulders. Hey, hold my hand. You know, also in marriage, you know, I'm never asking
for consent when I kiss my wife. I just walk up and kiss my wife. You know, I just walk
up and smack her on the ass. You know what I mean? Oh man, I can't believe you said that.
Well, you know, it's not the show's not for kids. Okay. So I already said that. But at
the end of the day, it's just like, hey, I don't, I just walk up, hug my wife. I just
kiss my wife. Obviously outside of marriage, this would be inappropriate for a man to just
touch women like this. A man that's not married to another woman or another man's wife. You're
not going to go up and just kiss her, touch her on her bottom, give her a hug, like in
a kind of a sexual way. Obviously there's a grandma hug. Obviously there's a family
hug. Obviously there's a friend hug. I'm saying like, you're not going to get up there and
just get her, pull her in tight in some romantic way, face to face. Like just that, that's
not appropriate. That wouldn't be tolerated. People would even consider that sexual assault
if you're, if you're touching her in certain places that only a husband should get to touch.
So again, but in marriage, I'm not, I'm like, honey, can I kiss you? Honey, can I give you
a hug? Honey? No, I just, I just hug her. No, I just kiss her. No, it just happens.
And so that's just a healthy marriage. That's what makes sense. Um, I'm reading, I'm, I'm
trying to just catch up on the chat here and see what else. Anchor Baptist Church words
have meaning. This is absolutely feminism. Free with that. Sanderson 1611, make her do
it. I don't know what that was her response to, but I'm assuming I agree. Uh, Ben the
Baptist, KJV, consent to happen when she said I do. Amen to that. JC Neville, women know
it gives them authority in a marriage as soon as society says their husbands do not have
a right to relations. Yeah. I mean, I would have to agree. Um, they don't need, they don't,
they don't get authority, but they're, they're kind of given this fake sense of authority.
And you know, that's just, it's a, it's a wicked attitude. Uh, I talk, he says, this
is one of the reasons never to marry an unsaved woman. Well, there's a lot of reasons, but
that I agree. You should, you should not get married to someone that's not saved. A lot
of W's in the chat. I got a double you. So I think that that means that, uh, we're doing
a great job. You know, that's how I understand it. Some other questions. Someone's seething
about this episode, apparently out there. Would it be wrong for a husband to refuse
relations as a disciplinary measure? Would only be effective for a quote driven wife?
Would it be wrong for a husband to refuse relations as a, I think that that's, that's
like Islam. Islam says like, you know, forsaker in bed. I think that, you know, you, you cannot
discipline your wife by stop having sex with her. That's, that's silly. That should never
happen. I think that, you know, disciplinary action should be nothing that's a duty of
marriage. Like you're not going to stop feeding each other. You're not going to stop paying
bills. You're not going to have to stop having sex. Like all of that is wrong to stop doing.
But obviously as a husband, I think, you know, if you say, Hey, I'm going to limit your credit
card, take away your phone, you know, other disciplinary actions. I think husbands have
the right to do as they see fit in their relationship. So, you know, that would be, that would be
a silly idea. And, and let's be honest, most of the time men aren't punishing women. That
way it's the opposite. Women are punishing their husbands by not having sex with them
and it's, it's wicked, it's evil, it's wrong. And again, you know, it should be something
that should be resolved immediately. You know, as my wife and I always talk about, he said,
Hey, if you have problems in marriage, you probably need to have more sex, not less.
More sex will, will help your marriage, will heal your marriage, will make you draw closer
to one another. Um, you know, anytime there's a lull, you need to just get back on the horse
and you know, sometimes for both parties, the first time back, if it's been a little
while, it's been a week, it's been longer, it's been weeks, you know, you need to just
get back in there and just get back on the program and you know, for men and women, they're
a little bit different. Sometimes women just need to get back in that mindset and they
just kind of need a few times to basically get warmed up to it and then they're, they're
back into the program. So, you know, revving the engine isn't going to harm anything. You
need to get out there and just, just make it happen. Of course, if you're listening
to the stream today and you're married and you have a great marriage, you know, you should
probably have sex today. That's just my personal opinion. That's my personal advice. No such
thing as marital rape. It's a disgusting idea of feminism. I'm going to go back. I don't
know how much more I got to in this show at some point. It's been a good show so far,
I think, but let's just keep reading this article a little bit more 20th 21st century
recent criminalization. The marital rape exemption exemption or defense became more widely viewed
as inconsistent with the developing concepts of human rights and equality. The first country
which criminalized the marital rape was 1922 was the Soviet Union. I'm just going to pause
for a second. As soon as I read that, I was like, Oh, you mean the Bolshevik revolution?
You mean communist Russia? You mean the Jews? One of the first places to criminalize marital
rape is the Jews, is communism, is Soviet Russia, is the Bolshevik revolution. I mean,
that should be like every red flag you could possibly need. It's like, how can anybody
read the history of this stuff, read this and think this is good? This is obviously
satanic, evil, wicked, nonsensical. Now it's funny is if we read the clarification of this,
it says, I, the penal code made no longer the distinction between violent sex within
marriage and outside of marriage. So this is what's so funny. Even though they're the
first to do it, they still are only clarifying between violent sex and just sex within marriage.
So if you didn't actually physically harm her, if you didn't actually beat her up and
bruise her and cause some kind of a, you know, torture element here, then it was still legal
and communist Russia with the Jews. They're just simply saying you can't violently sex,
you know, have sex between husband and wife. Which again, I'm saying I don't really think
that makes sense either. It says one decade later, Poland, 1932, after World War II, many
members of communist block followed the Soviet example. Oh, another country did it. Communists.
What a great, what a great idea. Yeah, I'm a, I'm a literal communist. I'm a literal
feminist. I mean, that's what you have to say when you say I support this marital rape
idea, this marital rape doctrine. It's a contradictory term. Stop using it. It doesn't even make
sense. It can't happen. You can't rob yourself. Okay I can't I can't take money out of my bank
account and that's thievery. Officer I need to report a crime. I took money out of my own bank
account. They would be like well we might arrest you for being an idiot but we can't arrest you
for a thief for being a criminal because you know you didn't steal money. You didn't you're not a
thief. You didn't thieve yourself. You didn't rob yourself. You're not a robber. Crazy. This stuff is
just crazy uh under the influence of european countries in which marital rape was already
illegal feminists in other countries worked systematically since the 1960s to overturn the
marital rape exemption and criminalize marital rape so again i didn't write this article feminists
are doing this uh increasing criminalization of spousal rape is part of a worldwide reclassification
of sexual crimes quote from offenses against morality the family good customs honor and chastity
to offenses against liberty self-determination or physical integrity um it's a human rights
violation according to 1993's human rights commission who who wants to believe in this stuff
um this is this crazy in 2012 high commissioner of human rights navi pillay stated that quote
violations of women's human rights are often linked to their sexuality and reproductive role
in many countries married women may not refuse to have sexual relations with their husbands
and often have to say have no say and whether they use contraception ensuring that women have
full autonomy over their bodies is the first crucial step towards achieving substantive
equality between women and men personal issues such as when how and with whom they choose to
have sex and when how and with whom they choose to have children are at the heart of living life
and dignity now again i i've preached against this repeatedly i preached the whole sermon years ago
saying that my my i don't ask my wife's permission to have children you know i heard a pastor pastor
tommy murtry preached that years ago he preached that you know he had to get his wife's permission
in order to have more kids and again bad idea i know someone very close to me very personal
doesn't go to church at my church or anything like that it's not has nothing to a church
where the husband wants more kids and the wife said no and then he got snipped then he got a
got a vasectomy uh in fact pretty much everybody that i knew growing up got a vasectomy and i
remember them telling talking to me about this and i said i will never get a vasectomy that's
disgusting and gross and wicked and evil i don't want that that's stay away from me and then i
was treated like a villain i was treated like an evil person they said well if you don't get a
vasectomy then you're going to force your wife to get her tubes tied and that's a more dangerous
procedure and it costs more money and that's selfish and i said well i'm not getting that
either and then and then it was like even more shock and horror it was just like uh what in the
world you're you're saying that you're just gonna keep having kids yeah i'm just gonna keep having
kids sorry sorry you don't like what the bible says sorry that you don't like be fruitful and
multiply as the bible clearly teaches i like that the bible says that you know childbearing is
going to keep women saved from the corruption of this world from lies from the devil the women
marrying bearing children guiding the house they're going to be kept from the deception of the devil
i don't want a vasectomy and again i i know men that have gotten vasectomies and and you know they
they weren't really necessarily trying to do something stupid and they came to me and they
said should i get a reversal i said look if you the damage is done if you want to get a reversal
go for it if you don't you've already you already made that choice i don't think you're like sinning
worse or something like that by not getting it changed but i'm not going to sit here and excuse
it and say it was cool it was a bad idea like getting a tattoo i don't recommend people removing
their tattoos bad idea i'm going to preach against it vasectomies same category you could keep reading
this article uh i don't know there's there's probably even more stuff and this is pretty
funny i'm going to go to a few bible verses i'm trying to land the plane the bible says in first
corinthians chapter number seven it says now concerning the things where have you wrote in
me it is good for a man not to touch a woman nevertheless to avoid fornication let every
man have his own wife and let every woman have her own husband let the husband render under the
wife do benevolence and likewise also the wife under the husband so notice according to the text
according to the bible you owe something to your spouse do benevolence um this is not something
that is optional it's something that's commanded uh it says here it works both ways i owe my wife
benevolence she owes me benevolence this is how marriage works this is how our relationship works
so whenever i want it i get it whenever she wants it she gets it it's my wife's body but it's my
choice and at the end of the day my body is her body and it's her choice you know in the sense
that whatever she she rub her back rub your back rub your feet rub your feet sex sex that's just
how it works you want to you want that you get it the wife of not power of her own body but the
husband and likewise also the husband have not power of his own body but the wife it's exactly
what the text says it says hey she says hey i want i want this okay you have to do it vice versa
verse five defied he not won the other except to be with consent for a time they may give
yourselves a fasting and prayer and come together again that satan tempt you not for your incontinency
now again the word consent is brought up in this passage but you have to understand what it's saying
it's not saying that i have to ask permission to have relationships with my wife it's saying i have
to ask permission to not have sex with my wife so think about this if i say honey i don't want
to have sex and she says no i have to that's what the text is actually saying it's saying i have to
get her to agree to not for me to not have sex with her or vice versa if if my wife wants to
not have sex she has to come to me and say can we not have sex tonight or for this reason for
fasting or prayer or whatever and if you know if i said no i i don't i don't agree to that we're
not going to fast or pray to pray tonight tonight's friday night we're going to have fun then you have
to it says come together again that satan tempt you not for your incontinency incontinency meaning
like your lack of self-restraint so if someone's incontinent usually it's talking about they
use the bathroom without being able to hold them hold it but it can be used in this context of
hey if you're not having physical relationship if you're not having sex with your spouse
well then you you may be tempted to sin in this area and so you know you need to just go ahead
and come together now now think about think about this logic for a second it's it's saying if you
don't have sex you're going to be tempted to sin the the feminists and the liberals you know how
they're reading this you're tempted to sin by just forcing your wife right like but then but then
you'd be having sex with her so that it's contradictory verse five proves beyond a shadow
of a doubt we can't believe in marital rape because if marital rape was the sin then you're
you're doing what it's saying you're coming together you can't come together
and then it's saying you're not coming together like the whole point is that you are coming
together so it's like if you're not coming together then you could be tempted for your
incontinency but it's not like oh man we got to really warn people about not having enough sex
because then they might be tempted to just you know just attack their spouse in bed or something
you know i guess when my grandma dies and i'm sad and my wife quote attacks me in bed it's like
bring it on you know for number one number two i'm not going to go cry about it or anything like
that it's not gonna it's not gonna harm me plus it's just kind of silly to think that men over
here are just like so afraid of of being like raped by their wife or something like this
makes no sense um obviously it's more of a it's kind of a an issue leaning on the other side but
i mean this is just this is just crazy and and this is what the text says now here's the thing
there's things that the bible didn't bring up in this issue did it bring up the criminal aspect no
why because it's not a crime it's just not a crime it was a crime if you brought up the bible
if if it's super evil and wicked chapter and verse now again is everything expedient you know
the bible says that men are allowed to spit in their daughter's face and i cannot just go around
and spit in a stranger's face that would be considered assault so there's a different rule
for my daughter than there would be for a stranger so there could be different rules in my own
household of how i do things now would it be a good idea if i just constantly just spitting in
my daughter's face especially if it's not for something grievous it's not for something that
makes sense no and and someone getting up and saying hey there could be a justification to
spit in your daughter's face and something really extreme you know she's she's just a whore or she
just does something really disrespectful that you just literally spit in her face and she's ashamed
but obviously we're not talking like just every day any little grievance that's where the
discretion comes in play right so we're talking these situations it's like well if if a husband
or wife is is having normal relations this conversation doesn't make sense we're talking
about you know more extreme situations but again it's out there that women now have been empowered
by feminism they think as long as you know they have a headache they don't feel good they don't
they're not that interested they don't feel romantic there wasn't enough romance today
then they can just say no in the bedroom and you know what that's wrong it's wrong it's wicked it
shouldn't be happening we need to defeat this mindset we need men and women to just say hey
i'm yours whatever you want you know it we need to take the chick-fil-a approach it is my pleasure
you know just whatever the customer is always right it's funny how just the secular world
applies these concepts we need to apply them into marriage and so you know again this this is a great
verse there's other verses we could look at honestly if you don't if you if you haven't if you haven't
figured it out at this point there's probably not any help for you i just think it's funny to read
this article um i hope you enjoyed this video obviously a little crass obviously it's a little
adult topic but you know we need to talk about this and you know husbands and wives need to have
more sex not less wives and husbands need to never use this as a weapon husbands and wives need to
make sure that if their spouse wants it they get it um if if someone was in these really weird
extremes and situations of six months a year of going without uh it's been even you know and i'm
just using those numbers i'm not saying it's the limits of that but i'm just using some numbers
you know i'm not going to condemn people to just that just make it happen obviously we should never
physically harm our wife we should never physically harm our husband you should never physically harm
your spouse i'm not saying that but if you still believe in this marital rape doctrine wear the
feminist label proudly wear the communist label proudly because there is no way to separate these
ideas you they are these ideas that's where they came from stop thinking that you're different oh
well i'm not i'm not saying like i'm like these feminists you are you really really are okay and
in fact by what you believe in or saying you would have been punished you would have been
criminalized you would have put in jail for those beliefs in those views you know we need marriage
we need to make marriages great again and you know what that's going to happen through more
intimacy more sex more procreation more children that's what the bible says marry bear children
guide the house that's going to have a happy house a happy life um you know why are why are
the feminists so miserable because they don't have a loving husband and they're not having
lots of sex with their husband that's why that's it's just that's why they're so mad that's why
they're so upset and because they aren't having that they don't want anybody else to have it
it's like the devil he just wants to drag as many people down with them as possible italki412 says
quote i'm a based feminist i don't know what that means hopefully that was in jest um if you have
another comment or question put it in now because i'm about to land the plane i'm i'm against this
marital rape idea it's contradiction of terms doesn't make sense read the article it's hilarious
second wave feminism it's communism ben the baptist says husbands don't have to quote earn
physicality with their wife it is owed in modern 50 50 marriages is like a reward the husband gets
if he was a good little pet for the day disgusting nonsense i agree some people say like oh this is
like islam islam is telling you to forsake your wife in bed islam is not christianity
people try to act like islam's based or something or or is like conservative it's not the bible is
conservative the bible is based itagi says yes i put that in quotes because people say stuff like
that i've never heard that i would laugh at you if i was around somebody and they said i'm a
based feminist i would just laugh and think i would never take that person seriously um so it
just makes makes no sense same afoe islamic women i've talked to are very feminist yeah probably um
especially the ones in america uh america america feminizes everyone no matter what religion no
matter what group no matter what ethnicity so thanks for tuning in special stream i hope you
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make some improvements but thanks guys for tuning in god bless you and look if you're married have
sex you know have have sex don't don't feel guilty about it you know and and look sometimes
you do things in marriage that you weren't that into and just do it right you just you just do
the chore you just do the dishes you just rub the foot you just rub the back that's this is life
okay and and sometimes you just you know leah shows up and she's like i i borrowed you for the
night and you're just like let's go you know if grandma dies it's just like let's go don't don't
be a feminist don't be a communist you know what get the baddest bias