Well, there's been a media brainwashing campaign
that's going on for literally over a century now.
And I can totally sympathize
with where these evangelical Christians are coming from
because I was raised believing that Israel's wonderful.
The Jews are God's chosen people.
We've got to support Israel.
God's gonna curse America
if we pull back on supporting Israel.
I actually grew up believing that.
I remember being newly married,
looking at the newspaper and kind of rooting for Israel
in all the conflict with the Palestinians and everything.
The brainwashing is so deep
that even though I read the Bible so many times,
I was just, I just didn't see it.
And then one day when I was about 24 years old,
it finally clicked with me.
I saw, wait a minute, this isn't biblical at all.
I'm just repeating things that I've heard.
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Unsurprisingly, this war in Gaza
is creating bizarre alliances here in the United States.
Pastor John Hagee is a right-wing televangelist
who's hit every trope that spiritual Christians
in American Christianity like to hit.
He raised a boatload of money off of his fans
by spiritually manipulating them.
He's predicted the arrival of the end times incorrectly
and then just moved on without missing a beat.
And like so many Christian pastors in America,
he's somehow elevated this unquestioning support for Israel
as some kind of a core element of the Christian faith.
In fact, he claimed that God sent Hitler
to perpetrate the Holocaust in order to punish Jews
for not creating the state of Israel quickly enough.
Last month, Hagee got invited to speak
at a March for Israel rally in Washington, DC.
Now, it's actually pretty weird
because this wasn't a right-wing rally.
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer was there.
So was CNN's self-proclaimed communist Van Jones.
And of course, rhino-leaning GOP Senator Joni Ernst.
I mean, those are the political alliances that we get today.
Radical left-wing senators and celebrities,
rhinos and weirdo pastors,
all standing together to say that supporting Israel
is the most important issue in American politics,
ahead of the border, ahead of protecting the unborn,
ahead of avoiding foreign calamities and quagmires and wars,
ahead of the constitution, ahead of everything.
All sorts of insanity is getting unleashed these days.
Another pastor, Greg Locke, claims to be Christian,
but then waves Israeli flags during services,
the flag of an explicitly non-Christian country.
This Locke fellow has even called
for blowing up the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem.
It's evacuate up there on the hill
and get a great big missile
and blow that wicked Dome of the Rock
plumb off of the spot where it's standing right now
so we can get that third temple rebuilt and us.
I mean, by the way, Christ himself said,
nobody knows the day or the hour that he will return.
So if anyone tells you that doing one thing
will cause Christ's return, they're lying to you.
Of course, we don't know when it'll happen.
We don't know when it will happen, period.
Now, look, we're not Muslims, obviously,
nor do we like Islam,
but people calling to blow up the Dome of the Rock
aren't trying to bring about the coming of Christ.
No, they're trying to bring about World War III.
That's what this has become.
Supporting this war on Gaza has become a way for lunatics
to indulge their bloodlust entirely out of proportion
to anything related to defeating Hamas.
They just want war everywhere on the planet
without end and without purpose.
Meanwhile, here in the United States,
they're demanding the destruction of our basic rights
for the purposes of protecting Israel from criticism.
On Sunday morning, the Washington Post ran this headline,
quote, to fight antisemitism on campuses,
we must restrict speech.
I mean, ignore the headline.
This isn't about fighting antisemitism.
This is literally just about blocking criticism of Israel
as a whole, because the regime has equated those two things
when they aren't equal at all.
Many of the vocal critics, the most vocal critics of Israel
are literally Jewish themselves.
But they aren't just gonna ban criticism of Israel,
of course.
No, while they're at it,
we're gonna just get blanket bans on hate speech.
So soon it will simply be illegal to disagree
with the regime on anything,
because anything that we believe or want to say,
whether it's on abortion or crime or immigration,
will be considered hate.
That's the trap that we're walking into right now,
when we let these hysterical over the top backers of Israel
get their way on everything.
We are now setting the stage for the regime
to turn around and suppress all of us.
Pastor Steven Anderson,
who you saw at the beginning of this segment,
is a pastor in Arizona, and he joins us now.
Thank you so much for coming.
We appreciate you being here.
Yeah, thanks so much for having me on.
And just to comment on what Greg Locke was saying
about how we gotta get that third temple built.
It's so bizarre, because if you think about it,
Christ in the gospels predicted that that temple
was going to be destroyed.
God's judgment came upon Israel in the first century AD.
God punished them for rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ.
He completely destroyed the nation of Israel.
I mean, we know, of course, the Jewish Roman War,
which took place 66 to 73 AD,
and the destruction of the temple in 70 AD.
And then again, in 135 AD,
the Romans wiped out the Jewish nation.
Jesus predicted that over and over again in his parables,
in his teachings, as a punishment for rejecting the Messiah.
Why do they wanna rebuild what God has destroyed?
And they say, oh, we gotta get that third temple built.
And they think that somehow they're gonna usher in
the second coming of Christ by doing that.
But really, building the third temple
is all about bringing in the anti-Christ.
It's the anti-Christ that's gonna sit in that third temple
and declare himself to be God.
And you're absolutely right that, you know,
blowing up that Dome of the Rock
sounds like the beginning of World War III.
Yeah, I would consider that to be blasphemous.
Would you?
Well, I think it's blasphemous to fly that flag
in the house of God because flying that flag
with that star symbol on it, that is a wicked symbol.
First of all, it is explicitly the symbol
of a false Christ-rejecting religion, Judaism.
I mean, while we're at it, why don't we fly a yin-yang
or symbols of Islam or Buddhism in the house of God?
You know, it's a Christian house of worship.
Why would you fly a symbol of a religion
that explicitly rejects Jesus as the Messiah?
And the Bible says, who is a liar?
But he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ,
he is anti-Christ that denieth the Father and the Son.
And that symbol of that star,
it's not just the symbol of the nation of Israel,
it's also the symbol of the religion,
the Christ-rejecting religion of Judaism, okay?
So why would we fly that in a Christian church?
That alone is life.
We're encouraged by Jesus Christ
to be more Jesus-like every single day.
This is what we do.
We fall short of the glory of God every day,
which is why we repent, which is why we hit our face,
which is why we pray,
which is why we humble ourself before the Lord.
All of these things, right?
This is why we get baptized.
This is why we seek out the church of Christ.
This is why we joyfully and with a loving and open heart
accept the gospel of Jesus Christ.
These are all very simple, by the way,
eternal salvation is very simple.
They tell you exactly what to do.
God, Jesus tells you exactly what to do.
The Bible tells you exactly what you need to do.
Greg Locke and John Hagee are not alone,
which is confusing to me.
And I'm really trying to understand
because I have been labeled one of the most dangerous
anti-Semitic platforms on the face of planet earth
by the Rolling Stone and New York Times
and all these other people simply for asking questions.
Why this unfettered support,
this unquestionable unwavering support
for the nation state of Israel by John Hagee
and by Greg Locke and by thousands of other
so-called Christian pastors in this country?
Why?
I'm trying to understand.
Well, there's been a media brainwashing campaign
that's going on for literally over a century now.
And I can totally sympathize
with where these evangelical Christians are coming from
because I was raised believing that Israel's wonderful.
The Jews are God's chosen people.
We've got to support Israel.
God's gonna curse America
if we pull back on supporting Israel.
I actually grew up believing that.
I remember being newly married,
looking at the newspaper and kind of rooting for Israel
in all the conflict with the Palestinians and everything.
The brainwashing is so deep
that even though I'd read the Bible so many times,
I was just, I just didn't see it.
And then one day when I was about 24 years old,
it finally clicked with me.
I saw, wait a minute, this isn't biblical at all.
I'm just repeating things that I've heard.
And then I just started seeing on every page of the Bible
that the Jews have rejected Christ.
They're not God's chosen people.
They're no longer the elect of God.
But it all started back even in the late 1800s
with the beginnings of Zionism.
And then you have the Scofield reference Bible,
which is a study Bible that just became ubiquitous
amongst Baptists and evangelicals.
And it has all these notes promoting this idea.
The Bible colleges have been pushing it.
TV evangelists have been pushing it.
Christian radio stations, obviously right wing conservatives
are constantly pushing these things.
It's just people are brainwashed.
And unfortunately they're listening to more media
than they are reading the Bible.
So the people like Locke and Hagee
and the people like Brian Kilmeade or Steve Doocy
or Harris Faulkner over on the Fox News Channel
or any of these Christian radio stations that you mentioned,
all of the aforementioned,
all of these people could potentially be victims
of programming and brainwashing.
The media is being intentionally used
to spread this propaganda and to perpetuate this,
but by whom and to what do they have to gain?
Greg Locke and John Hagee are not victims.
They are the perpetrators of this evil.
They are the ones pushing it and promoting it
and twisting the minds of others.
Obviously the architects of this
and the people that are just so rabidly pro-Israel
like the John Hagees and the Greg Locks
who go to such extremes.
They're not victims of anything.
They are just workers of Satan, period.
But I'm just saying your average evangelical pastor
across America, your average Baptist pastor
is not just evil and wanting to support the anti-Christ
and just hail Satan over here.
I think Greg Locke and John Hagee are that satanic,
but I'm saying they're not alone like you said.
Millions of God-fearing, saved, born-again Christians
have bought into this propaganda
just because it runs so deep.
TV, radio, Bible college, it's everywhere.
So who's at the top of that?
Who's responsible for making the media do this?
Who's paying them to do this?
What level of infiltration-
I don't think anybody has to necessarily pay them
because Satan is controlling these people.
The Bible calls the Jews the synagogue of Satan.
It says they say they're Jews, but they're not.
They're the synagogue of Satan.
And so ultimately it's Satan.
Obviously, you know, surprise,
the Jews also own a lot of media and publishing companies.
So yeah, obviously they can control those things
if we want to look at it from an earthly perspective.
But you know, spiritually the devil's behind it.
Yeah, so these people are in league with Satan.
They're being used by Satan.
Used is a very, very important word
because we've been told that Satan will use people
as will God, as will Jesus.
Will use people, even people who are not saved,
Jesus will use them.
God will use people that have rebuked the gospel
to spread the gospel.
Nobody knows what his timing is.
Nobody knows when he's coming back.
If you look at Black Rock, Vanguard, State Street,
the Rothschilds, these people fund
the majority of the media.
Is there a serious Zionist infiltration
and a danger to our country and to the world,
looking at World War III, possible nuclear fallout,
how dangerous is Zionism and how real is its infiltration?
Oh, absolutely.
It's extremely dangerous.
The infiltration is obvious.
Once your eyes are opened on this subject,
you just can't stop seeing it everywhere.
Ultimately, we do know that these things are coming.
You know, we don't know, like you said, we don't know when,
but World War III is coming and it's gonna be a bloodbath
unlike anything the world's ever seen
because it's gonna surpass what we saw
in World War I and World War II.
And it is for sure coming at some point.
And I don't wanna cheerlead for it or be rooting for it.
I want peace.
And you would think that Christians would be for peace,
not for just blowing up anybody, you know,
and just wanting to just bomb all the Muslims and everything.
And you know, what's amazing to me
is how hateful Christians are toward Muslims.
And look, I'm totally against Islam.
Islam is wicked.
I mean, I can't say enough bad things about Islam,
but so is Judaism.
But we don't hate the people that are deceived by Islam.
We wanna win them to Christ.
We wanna win Jews to Christ.
But these people don't wanna win Jews to Christ.
They wanna support them
in their evil Christ-rejecting religion.
You know, the best thing we could do for Jews
is to tell them that whosoever believeth in Christ
shall not perish but have everlasting life.
So, you know, tell them to believe
on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved.
As part of my desire to understand all of this,
I like to ask questions about the majority of people
who have been programmed, right?
I mean, because we're talking about my own family here.
So just me personally, from my own perspective,
I have family members who have told me,
you need to be really careful about the things
that you're saying about Israel on your show.
These are God's chosen people.
This is the holy land that you're talking about.
I mean, I have lost friends.
I had some crazy guy that calls himself a pastor
in my town where I live,
drive up to my house and berate me in front of my children
and told me, don't ever tell anybody ever again
that you are a Christian.
This is a guy that called, he stands behind a pulpit
and he leads a flock of sheep blindly about this Israel.
What are a few things that you would tell somebody like him
or to my family members who are cautioning me
or to the at-large programmed populace
to look into about whether or not
the pro-homosexual, pro-abortion,
secular nation state of Israel formed in the 1940s
is the Israel of the Bible that Jesus is talking about?
Yeah, I would take them to the Bible itself
and show them key scriptures like Galatians chapter three,
Galatians chapter four.
You know, the Bible says unto Abraham
and to his seed were the promises made.
Not seeds plural, but seed, one seed, which is Jesus Christ.
And the Bible says, if ye be Christ's,
then are ye Abraham's seed
and heirs according to the promises.
See what your family is bringing up about,
hey, you gotta be careful about what you say about Israel
is that God told Abraham, I will bless those who bless thee
and curse those who curse thee.
And they're applying that to the nation of Israel.
Whereas the Bible says that that promise was made to Abraham
and to his seed, which is Christ.
And that if we're in Christ, we're the seed.
So really what that would be applicable in 2023
is that if you bless Christians, you'll be blessed by God.
If you curse Christians, you'll be cursed by God,
but not the state of Israel.
So, you know, these people need to read
the book of Galatians, pretty much the entire book,
but especially chapters three and four,
just completely destroys this idea
that this secular state of Israel are Jews,
but they're hung up on their ethnicity or something,
because you try to explain to them,
it's a Christ rejecting religion.
And they'll say, well, yeah, but you know,
like they're descended from Abraham.
First of all, how about the fact that they're white people?
I mean, they have red hair, freckles,
blonde hair, blue eyes, like what in the world?
They're literally predominantly Europeans
who have converted to Judaism
because they hate the Lord Jesus Christ.
And they wanna have the Old Testament minus Jesus.
They wanna, you know, not have the Messiah.
And so the Bible tells in the New Testament,
avoid genealogy.
So here's what I'd like to know.
If God cares about our ethnicity,
if God cares who is literally descended
from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob,
then why does he specifically tell us in the New Testament
to avoid genealogies two different times,
because it doesn't matter whether we're red, yellow,
black, and white.
The only thing that matters is that we believe
on the Lord Jesus Christ as our savior.
And so this idea that somehow that, you know,
their ethnicity makes them special, it's absurd.
They've been mixing with Europeans
and everybody else in the world for the last 2000 years.
We've all got a little bit of their blood in us
because we've all mixed for thousands of years.
And so the whole idea of, you know,
an ethnic special people in the New Testament
is just contrary to everything
that the New Testament teaches.
Unfettered subordination to our fake government
corporate crime syndicate, just compliance,
along with unrelenting programming
and gaslighting and brainwashing
by a Zionist funded media is what produces
the unquestionable unwavering support
for this nation state of Israel.
But where is your unquestioning allegiance
and spiritual love and pouring in going to be?
Is it going to be to the media and to this government,
this murderous corporate crime syndicate?
Is it going to be to some secular nation state
or is it going to be to the Bible and to the word of God?
That's a choice that you have to make.
Gonna set up better.
Dr. Steven Anderson, thank you so much for coming.
We appreciate it.
Hope you'll come back soon.
Yeah, thank you.
God bless.
God bless you.
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