Pastor Steven Anderson is on his way to South Africa next week, but this trip has caused quite a controversy
60,000 South Africans signed a petition to have the pastor banned from entering. The Minister of Home Affairs says the pastor can come
But he must remain on his best behavior. Pastor Steven Anderson is joining me on Google Hangout right now. Hello
Hi there. How you doing? Very good. Thank you. Now you are heading to South Africa next week
There's been a lot of controversy over over you visiting the country
I know you're aware of it because you've you've made public statements about it. Has this ever happened to you before?
Yes, similar things have happened to me
But this is probably one of the bigger blow ups that have happened about a trip that I've made
So I know in your most recent video you say that
Reports on what you're actually coming here to do have been inconsistent. What are you coming here to do?
Well, basically I'm coming there to hold what's called a soul-winning marathon and I've already held events like this all over the United States
in about eight or nine different cities and
Basically a bunch of people who listen to my sermons online
Will come out and we all get together. We have breakfast and then we go out knocking doors
Just telling people about Jesus telling people how to be saved
Which is what's called soul winning and the purpose of the event is to teach people how to go door-to-door
Sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ
And so we've done these all over the country because I have a big
YouTube following I have like 50,000 some subscribers
So pretty much any city that we show up in in the United States, you know
About a hundred people will show up and and go knocking doors with us
Now you've said the South African media is against you. Why do you think that? Well, I mean, it's pretty obvious
if you look at all of these
Stories they all paint me as some kind of a monster some kind of a hateful evil person, you know when in reality
I'm a Bible believing God-fearing Christian and there's nothing in the world wrong with being a Bible believing Christian
You know, not everybody has to accept this homosexual agenda that's being crammed down everybody's throat
and so, you know
I have every right to preach what the Bible says and
All of the news reports that I've seen from South Africa, we're all very negative
None of them were positive or neutral in regard to my coming
What homosexual agenda is being crammed down everyone's throats?
Well, that's kind of a silly question because it's pretty obvious that anytime you watch Hollywood movies or TV shows
There's just so much homosexuality
in fact people in the United States have such a warped perception that they literally think that
20% of people are homosexual, you know when they do polls where they walk up and down the street asking people what they think
They think that 20 to 25 percent of people are homos because that's all that they see on TV all day when in reality
It's like one to three percent of the population
It's this tiny minority
But it's just this filth this disgusting lifestyle or rather death style is being promoted in
Movies TV magazines the news
It's it's it's a constant onslaught and anybody who's you know, watching this program knows what I'm talking about
So, you know that when you come to South Africa speaking about these views could get you
Kicked out of the country as the minister has said
How does that make you feel?
Well, it doesn't bother me at all because you know
I'm not going there to preach sermons about homosexuality or to do any kind of an anti homo rally, you know
I'm going there to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and knock doors. I had never planned on
Homosexuality having anything to do with these events. I've done eight of these events across America and
Homosexuality never came up because frankly unlike the media. I'm not obsessed with homosexuality
So I actually talk about other things and other issues. So, you know, that doesn't really I'm only there for two days
I'm doing an event that has nothing to do with homos and so I wasn't planning on saying any of that
So this minister can huff and puff and talk about how he's limiting me
But I'm doing the exact same thing. I always planned on doing in the first place. Are you a religious zealot? Absolutely
Yeah, I have zeal for the Lord Jesus Christ. We should all be religious zealots
I mean God wants us to love him with all our heart soul mind and strength
So we should all be zealous in our you know passion for serving God now
We've seen Islam extremists use use the Quran as an excuse to perpetuate violence
Do you think you're doing this?
in in in some way using the Bible as as a
way to perpetuate
hate towards a group of people
Well, see you just moved the goalpost there because a second ago you're talking about violence and then all of a sudden you just switched
Over to hate as if there's no difference between hate and violence. I am a totally nonviolent person
I never can do anything anyone in my entire life
So comparing me to someone who is violent is is a total apples to oranges there
Everyone has hate I guarantee you that every single person that signed that petition hates my ever-loving guts
And if they said that they didn't hate me, they'd be a liar
Well, I know you said that I made an unfair parallel between
Violence and and hate but you did condone the the 49
Killings at the Orlando Club saying that gay people deserve. That's that is a lie
Can you give me the quote where I ever condoned the killing at the Orlando Club?
Or did you just read that in a newspaper somewhere?
Well, I watched a video of you speaking and you said that gay people deserve to die. So it's right
So I said that I said that homosexuals deserve to die and I will stand by that until I go to the grave
But when did I condone a gunman going in there and shooting up the place?
If you actually watch the video you would have clearly heard me say that I did not condone a vigilante
Justice and that it was not right for the guy to go in there and shoot up the place and that it was wrong
For him to do that, but that's not what anybody repeats. They just they just say oh he praised the shooter
That's a lie that never happened
And if it did happen then give me the quote that I said because saying that I believe that homosexuals should be put to death
It's completely different than condoning a guy going in and shooting up a sodomite bar
I believe that they should be executed by the government which by the way in 79 countries in this world
Homosexuality is still illegal and in many places
It does carry the death penalty and in the United States it carried the death penalty in the early years of our nation
For thousands of years homosexuals have been put to death by you know, not vigilantes
But by what the Bible teaches a righteous government should do so I never condoned of some Muslim shooting up the place
I just said that I'm not going to mourn for people that the Bible says were worthy of death anyway