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hey there america how are you and the world i'm leslie marshall sitting in for
tom hartman again i am so glad to be apart of uh... your world today and i
hope that you'll be joining us as well
uh... actually very anxious uh... as a woman a very progressive woman in the
year two thousand fourteen to speak to uh... our guest today
who i think many of you
uh... if you know him or his name uh... will probably assume that he and i will
vehemently agree especially on this issue in that a disagree excuse me on
this issue and that is true
uh... joining us uh... now on the tom hartman show with me leslie marshall is
arizona pastor
steven anderson
he is pastor of the faithful word baptist church in tempe
arizona
uh... pastor anderson thank you for joining us good afternoon
oh yes yes i have to do that on this show see on my on my show i'm spoiled on
my show might my guys do that for me sorry
let's do that once again pastor anderson thank you for joining us here
in the tom hartman show on was lee marshall sitting in for him this
afternoon welcome
uh... now let let me get the straight let me retreat you
and our listeners and viewers
uh... that you have said you've warrant your congregation recently that birth
control was not only turning women into whores
it was also destroying the country i'm going to give you a few minutes to to
speak your peace on this because i know even jesus had his words taken out of
instill taken out of context
uh... but i have some questions for you on this so that's a go ahead try try and
help us on myself understand
uh... you're thinking on this
so well first of all you know my philosophy on birth control comes from
the bible
and all the way from the old testament through the new testament the bible makes
it clear that god wants us to have children
children are a blessing from god we're supposed to be fruitful multiply
and in the new testament for example at the first timothy five fourteen i will
therefore
at the younger women mary
their children guide the house
did not occasion to the adversary to speak approach fully for some are
already turned aside after satan
you know the bible constantly
felt women that they should get married have children children are blessing
there was one guy in the bible in fact in genesis thirty-eight
who used birth control basically by pulling out and got killed him
that just shows you know how got killed about the subject
and regard to what it's doing to women and what it's doing to our country is
that
date this uh... the culture that we have that considers birth control acceptable
and the fact that is widely available even christians you know ninety nine
percent of christians are probably using it
well that
just lead to more promiscuity
because of the fact that when we're teaching children in school for example
at a young age about birth control
it's almost like you're just giving them a green light
to go out and and have facts and do all that stuff
because you know birth control is there
to help them avoid the consequences of their actions okay i have a few hours i
want to say to you pat pastor anderson and some questions for you okay
uh... as a woman in two thousand and fourteen
strike and even express how strongly disagree with you and let let me share
with you a few things
uh... first of all i i i feel
i feel it it's pretty it's pretty ignorant to assume
that if people don't have birth control
that they won't have sex
and i think it's also ignorant to assume
that if somebody gets pregnant they're already already gonna have a baby
so one could argue that birth control actually reduces the number of
abortions which the bible also speaks to
well i'm absolutely not a feeling that people are going to have back or
controlled not available
but it's just a simple fact that if birth control is available
they're going to be more comfortable going out and having back then if they
had been helping about that in the back of their mind is a possible result now
let me ask you this do you think that do you know that men use birth control
condoms for example
okay so why are the women
uh... victimized verbally
uh... by you in in using the turns terms horrid of the last time i checked when i
have sex with my husband it's the two of us it's a man and a woman having
uh... sex in a heterosexual relationship so how come the man is not a whore if he
uses birth control the woman is the woman alone having sex with her in her
birth control by herself is she putting a condom on her vibrator that cannot
impregnate her i'm a bit confused on that
no i haven't touched uh... i haven't touched the uh... the board at all
i haven't uh... i put him on hold i don't know how to touch it that's
interesting i didn't mean to put you on hold there
if you could please answer what what about men and how come how come you're
how come your uh... you're you're uh... you're you're taking a a massive
paintbrush and sweeping this massive generalization that women or whores using
birth control but you say nothing about the men many men use birth control in a
but you say nothing about the men many men use birth control in a relationship
it again that's my current being taken out of context because i never said
that people you've got control of warden you said that birth control was turning
women into more as we did you not control leads to more women having sex
before they're married that passing understand this is a sermon that was
posted online are you saying that online when you said that birth control is quote
turning women into whores are you saying that your sermon posted online
uh... this week
uh... that you that you gave it faithful word baptist church are you saying that
those written words are not your words
okay are you not listening to me because i just said
that birth control leads women to have sex before they're married and that
women who have sex before they're married are whores i never said that women who use
birth control are whores but you never address the fact if you believe that if
women having if women having you know having access to birth control why am i
on the show if you don't want to hear but i do want to hear but i'm a nice i'm
going to ask you questions i'm going to ask you questions that's what we do we
talk radio answer the question
well the question is if if birth control for a woman leads her to have sex and
therefore can uh... turn her quote into a whore
how come birth control for a man doesn't lead him to have sex and turn him into
and it makes him a whore monger as i said but
the word whore is a female term the bible uses the term whore monger
and if you would get my sermon in context
i also preach against men that are promiscuous and call them whore mongers
it's just a different word
but that's just not in the soundbite that you have available apparently
uh... well actually i haven't played a soundbite but that's why i asked you i
asked you when i presented it to you and i gave you that opportunity in the beginning
that are more geared toward men
some sermons are geared more toward women some sermons are geared toward men but
i preach against both equally i mean they're both just as wrong
okay another thing i wanted to ask you another thing i wanted to ask you is
is it true
that you said this was also destroying the country
yes it is it leads to a decay of morality in our country and it leads to
promiscuity
do you think that terrorism or crime in general are immoral
yes they are
okay do you know that every fourteen seconds a woman is beaten and i'm kind
of wondering why a man of god
wouldn't care more about the more than five hundred thousand children on the
blue books who haven't been adopted and have no homes
the fourteen seconds every uh... every fourteen seconds a woman is beaten
uh... the nine out of ten women that don't report their rape is not
supported they feel by law enforcement or their community
the kidnapping the rate the child molestation aren't these sins if you
will pastor
more
uh... it disgusting in in much more destruction to our nation than birth
control
that really irrelevant comment because what in the world do any of the things
have to do with what we're talking about
i could live a lot of bad then too
what do they have to do it we're talking about you said that this is just going
our country and i'm asking is crying terrorism and the crimes i i mentioned
are those destroying our country
of course often is destroying our country i preach against all thing i
don't only preach against this is just one sermon out of
hundred and fifty-six that i deliver every year and uh... and are you with
us
absolutely not every but the bible says for all of sin and come short of the
glory of god every bible also says judge not lest ye be judged past the bible
also says those of you without sin cast the first stone
and that is my problem as a former christian but thank you for being with
us today
uh... arizona pastor steven anderson we thank you for explaining your words here
on the tom hartman show
uh... that is pastor
uh... from the faithful word baptist church intent the arizona