I get people see here. Somebody commented before I actually went
live and said religion is a lie. Take that priest lover go
confess to Lord Cassidy Campbell for replenishment.
I mean, obviously Catholic churches a lie. But yeah,
let's see here. haters are gonna hate. Exactly.
I had so many haters, I ended up just blocking everyone. I had
nobody watching. Oh, um, I was talking about the Orthodox
Church. And Pastor Mejia was telling me how it's literally
just like the Catholic Church, but on steroids.
Yeah, they definitely have a lot more idols. I haven't been in
one, you know, as far as like, personally. But I know the
Catholic Church I used to go to. There was a lot of, a lot of
images and stuff. So right, graven images, which the Bible
tells us not not to worship. Right. And, and it says that
Jesus is the only way to get to the Father. Not Mary. Right.
Yeah, the Catholic Church teaches that she's like the
mediatrix to Jesus. Right. So doesn't the Pope like put himself
with God. So when he's when he's supposedly on his throne, or
whatever they call that, he's like, infallible. So whatever he
says is supposedly infallible. And he's supposedly the vicar of
Christ, you know, so like, basically in Christ dead kind of
thing. Yeah. But, yeah, obviously, it's all garbage.
So, can you go over some verses in the Bible that actually show
people worshiping Mary and Jesus rebuking them?
Yeah, I mean, the first thing is, is that in Luke chapter two,
Mary, first of all says that she rejoices in God her Savior. So
the fact of Mary being like this sinless person is a false idea
to begin with. So I think that's not a bad, bad play. I'm sorry.
Luke chapter one states that so Luke chapter one talks about the
fact that she rejoices in God her Savior. Right. So she needed
a Savior just like everybody else. But But yeah, when it
comes to in john chapter two, at the the wedding of Cana Galilee,
Mary's there, obviously, and then Jesus and his disciples and
everything. And she basically tells Jesus, they have no wine.
And he says, woman, what I have I to do with thee. So this whole
idea of like, this whole reverence to her, like, he's
constantly just calling her woman. You know, even when he
even when he dies, when he's on the cross, if you remember in
john, where he looks over the disciples whom he loved, which I
believe is john, he says, you know, or he says to the woman,
behold thy son, he says, woman, behold thy son, you know, so
it's not even like he's like, you know, holy mother, you know
what I mean? Like this whole idea of, you know, you know,
this reverence or something like that. It's just not there. So
but in Luke 11, for example, this woman comes up and says, in
Luke 1127, it says, and it came to pass, as he spake these
things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice and
said unto him, blessed is the womb that bear thee in the paps,
which thou has sucked. But he said, Yea, rather, blessed are
they that hear the word of God and keep it. The thing is with
Mary is the fact that she was blessed among women. You know, I
mean, it talks about that when Gabriel came to her, right. So I
have nothing against Mary. But it's interesting that this this,
this woman is coming up to Jesus basically talking about
blessing, you know, the woman that that bear him. And he's
not, he's not saying like, she isn't blessed. But he's saying,
like, obviously, it's more important that you hear the word
of God and keep it, you know, like that, like, that's more
blessed, you know, like, you should be blessing that those
people, and even when when his mother and his brethren are
seeking for him, you know, he doesn't like hold them up higher
than everybody else. He says, Who is my mother? Who is my who
are my brethren? And he says, are not even ye, you know, like,
basically, he says, those that hear the word of God and keep it
or do the will of God, and all that. So this idea of like,
Mary, or even his brethren, you know, obviously, his half
brothers,
then being higher up or something like that, then
everybody else is just not there in the Bible. So somebody says,
which are, oh, they said Martin Luther broke up. So okay, so
first of all, here's another issue. This guy is saying that
Protestants are the Baptists are Protestants, which is false,
because Baptists didn't protest the Catholic Church. That was
only certain people that protested the Catholic Church.
Right. Yeah, I mean, no, I think reformed Baptists would claim
that, you know, you can kind of think of like, john calvin and
and everything. But when it comes to like,
independent Baptists, and stuff like that is that during that
whole time, there was Anabaptists. And Anabaptists
were called that because it means like the re baptize, and
they were re baptizing people that were baptized as babies.
And so it's this false idea that basically, the Catholic Church
was it, you know, from 380, or whatever, to this reformation,
you know, and that basically, people came out of it. And
basically, the Catholic Church just got corrupt. No, the
Catholic Church was always corrupt. Oh, Catholic Church was
basically taking Christianity, and melding it with Roman
polytheism. So when you look at all these saints, you know, that
people are praying to, and all this is that they're basically
replacing, you know, like, Christian characters, if you
will, with, you know, these Roman gods. Yeah, so that's why
you see that idolatry, you see, like, it's not just Jesus, it's
not just God, it's like Mary, it's, you know, thanks, the
saints, you know, and there's like a saint for everything,
you know, right, I think St. Francis is like, supposedly,
like the person with the animals. Like, there's like all
these different, you know, saints.
And it says, they call Jesus, they call no, no man, Father,
but you know, Father, Father in heaven. Right? Yes, the wire
that's so weird for people to confess their sins to like a
priest or the Pope. And another thing I was gonna say, it's
funny when people say, well, Catholics have been around
longer than Christians. How is that even true when Christianity
has been around it since the Old Testament?
Yeah, well, and that's what religion throughout the Bible.
Well, and that's where people think that, like, there's a
different faith system or something like that, from the
beginning to the New Testament, but Abraham believed God and
imputed him for righteousness, right? And David, the Lord.
Yeah. And David, described the blessedness of the man under
whom God imputed righteousness without works. So as far as how
people are saved, and being covered by the blood of Christ
has been from foundation world, because it says that Jesus is
the lamb slain from the world. But when it comes to even
Catholicism, Catholicism didn't come up onto the scene until
around the fourth century, you know, when you're dealing with
Constantine and all that, as far as, you know, pulling that and
what basically Constantine did, was he pulled in, like a false
sect of Christianity, and made that like the state religion.
Okay, because the Catholics will say, Well, no, it was there
before. Yeah, it was this false, you know, like sect of it, you
know, so if you looked at, I mean, think of like, all the
false, you know, divisions of Christianity today, right? And
then imagine that they took, let's say they took Pentecostalism,
right? And let's say America is like, you know what, the
Pentecostals, they're gonna be our state religion. And then
they made it real big. And it's like, basically, you had to be a
part of that to be a part of the nation, like all this stuff. And,
and it just got real corrupt. And then saying, like, well,
that was that was, you know, the true church, and it just got
corrupt. And then people started coming out of it. It's like,
well, no, it sucked to begin with, you know, it was bad to
begin with. And so when it comes to the Catholic Church, it was
never good. But, but yeah, so I mean, now, now that some people
come out of the Catholic Church, get right on doctrine and stuff
like that. I'm not saying that didn't happen, you know, when it
comes to the Reformation, you know, like that there wasn't
people that like, opened their eyes to true doctrine and got
saved and, and, and all that stuff. But, but yeah, I mean,
you can't point Baptist back to any man. You know, so that's,
that's the problem. And they, so if you try to point it back to
the Reformation, it's like, well, who came out of the
Catholic Church to start the Baptist, you know? Yeah. So,
but they, they basically, and people just don't want to study
that or think about it. So they just say, well, if they're not
Catholic, they're Protestant.
Yeah, that's not true. Yeah.
Another thing, obviously, I protest the Catholic Church.
Don't get me wrong. Yeah, I protest a lot of their doctrine.
But that doesn't mean that, you know, our churches go back to
the Catholic Church.
Yeah. Right. And, and, you know, I feel like a lot of people
don't understand Calvinism either. Because these Calvinists,
they, they don't even, they don't worship Jesus. They, they
worship John Calvin.
Well, yeah, and a lot of, I mean, not even just Calvinists,
but just a lot of these people that have these denominations as
they go back to their fathers of the faith, if you will.
Baptists are guilty of this, too. I mean, you think of like
independent Baptists. Yeah, independent Baptists, they have
like these, like, you know, these forefathers of the faith,
and it's like, whatever they said is gospel truth, instead of
just looking at the Bible for what it says. Right. And so
yeah, I mean, when it comes to Calvinists, it's like, John
Knox, John Calvin, you know, going back to, you know, what's
his name, Spurgeon, you know, all these guys that were
basically Calvinists. And, yeah, I mean, ultimately, I'm not
saying that there can't be guys from the past that were saved
and did good things. Obviously, there were. Yeah. But, you know,
why are we looking back to these dead preachers for their
doctrine? Right. When we have the Bible in front of us, you
know, the Bible says the only thing which you have received
with him about it, then you, and you need not that any man teach
you. So when it comes to, you know, pastoring or church, for
example, obviously, someone showed me the gospel, I got
saved. So someone had to show me, yes, the righteousness of
God is revealed from faith to faith. And obviously, there's
been churches throughout time that I believe it be getting
good churches, and that has never been broken. Yeah. But
when it comes to doctrine, I mean, honestly, the Word of God
needs to be your final authority, not some forefather.
Right. 100%. That's what people are trusting in John Calvin's
doctrine, not the Word of God.
Yeah. And honestly, with Calvinists, they're trusting in
a lot of vain philosophy. Because a lot of their stuff is
basically John Calvin's doctrine, but how they how they
defend it is based off of philosophy.
You know, if they they try to look like they're so small, or
yeah, I mean, honestly, that is a lot of it is that they're
puffed up in their, their basically big, great swelling
words of vanity, meaning that it's just it's all about their
vocabulary, the fiction, they, they basically just
transliterate a bunch of words from the Greek, and then they
use them as big theological terms like harmonics, and
exegesis, and like,
they love sovereign.
Yeah, although that's not even coming from the Greek.
Oh, no, I'm just saying they use that word.
Oh, they do love the word sovereign. But but yeah, I mean,
so they use words that, you know, a normal person that's
just reading through their, their English Bible aren't
going to understand unless you're like, into understanding
theological discussions. And it's annoying, to be honest.
And you know, this guy said, he said, most street preachers are
indoctrinated with Calvinist theology.
Yeah, I would say that that's probably true. I would say most
street preachers are definitely like repent of your sins,
lordship.
That's all they talk about. They don't even tell people the
gospel. All they do is tell people to turn from sin. They
don't even tell them about Jesus.
Yeah, one person, I think in the last discussion, I was, you know,
someone was saying, Well, aren't you a street preacher, because
you're out there on door to door. When we talk about street
preachers, what we're talking about is going out there with a
big megaphone yelling at people that don't want to talk to you.
You know, and it's just not profitable. It's stupid. When we
go out soul winning, we knock on a door, we run, we run into
somebody and we ask them if they would like to see. And then if
they say yes, at that point, that's an invitation. Like now
you have engaged in a conversation where they want to
be there. They want to talk to you. Yeah. Let me that's the
difference. That's not street preaching, you know, in the
sense of what everybody knows.
Let me see here with this guy's channel. It's this street
preacher. I thought it'd be funny to watch this tree
preacher since we were talking about it.
See, it's just embarrassing when you see these street preachers.
Yeah, I used to want to do it because I didn't know any
better. And then I realized how bad it was.
Well, and people are just like, Oh, you know, it takes a lot of
boldness. It's like, it takes a lot of boldness to do a lot of
things. It doesn't mean that it's the way you should be
doing it. You know,
right. Take a lot of boldness is to go sock somebody in the mouth.
Well, it's like, okay. Let's be we want to be Listen, as a
person can probably get out on the street, start preaching the
right gospel. And maybe they get one person saved, like, a long
time. Yeah. But if you just did it the way that God says to do
it door to door, yeah, one on one, you know, then you're
gonna, you're gonna be a lot more fruitful.
100%. Let's see here. I saw this guy before. I think this is,
oh, it's called preacher confronts. lukewarm. Oh, my
gosh, where is it? This video here? It's interesting.
Oh, here it is. It's called preacher confronts lukewarm
Christians. holier than now. It's called I am holier than
you. Okay. Here we go. Preacher confronts lukewarm Christians.
So be funny.
Wait. So is this video like, from the perspective, like,
preacher? Is this what is this like video from the street
preacher?
Yeah, this is on the street creatures channel. Yeah, gotcha.
It's not a heresy hunting channel. I love heresy hunting
channels because I just like seeing these false teachers get
exposed. Yeah, it's funny.
Hold on. Okay. It's on the screen. That is none of your
business. Are you here to get drunk?
No.
Smoke weed. Ornicate.
It really isn't your business. What are you doing here?
Having a great time.
I put in better quality. Hold on.
Luke, you should have a great time in the kingdom of God.
You're here in the kingdom of man, man.
I'm a Christian. I'm strong Christian.
Christian and you're here. The only time I respect a Christian
being here is when they're winning souls. Are you here
winning souls, man? I don't condemn you. But this is a
righteous judgment. I'm not condemning people.
Do not do not condemn anyone standing up for the Jewish
people. I condemn anyone. Yes, you did. What did I say? They
were dishonoring God because they are dishonoring God when
they're living in sin. And so do you. dishonoring God while you
live in sin.
All throughout the Bible, when you sin against God, you
dishonor him.
There is no other way except by the way of that cross. There is
only one way.
Are you here to get drunk?
Oh, let me fast forward.
Christian, man.
Okay, so here's, here's what the Bible says about winning people
to Christ. Yeah, you know, it says in Second Timothy two,
there's 24 it says, and the servant of Lord must not
strive, but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach patient
uniqueness instructing those that oppose themselves, if God
prevention will give them repentance to the acknowledging
of the truth. And, you know, that. And I think I feel like
people when they listen to our preaching, for example, yeah,
they think that's how we talk to people when we go out soul
winning. Yeah, right. Because I, you know, it seems like that's
what they, because when we preach behind the pulpit, we're
preaching to save people, and we'll be bombastic, or we'll be
hard or whatever. It's like, well, yeah, we're supposed to
be crying aloud sparing not when you're behind the pulpit
preaching to people. But if you're preaching the gospel,
you're supposed to be gentle, me, you know, and, and if it's
gonna get accelerated to a point where you're yelling, then you
might as well just walk away. Yeah. So 100% it's funny that
people think Pastor Anderson's mean, but he's like one of the
nicest people.
Yeah, I mean, but I would say most all I mean, all the
preachers that I know, especially in our movement.
Yeah, that's exactly the way everybody is, you know, you'll
be ripping face spitting, like hitting things. After service. I
mean, you're just, you know, you get excited about things of God.
And, you know, I'm, I'm not using, I'm never preaching to
any one person, either. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's not like
there's like this person in the crowd that I'm like, really
getting on. It's like, I'm just preaching in general. And then,
yeah. Anyway,
and, oh, Kerrigan Kelly. Oh, yeah, that guy that tree
preachers saw saucy. Yeah. I've seen some of his videos, and he
says he doesn't sin. It's hilarious. This one's a little
more this is funny. This guy calls him out. I think he said
something to him here.
All throughout the Bible, all throughout the Bible, when you
sin against God, you dishonor him. You're just a lukewarm
Christian, man. Look, Jesus says, if you're at the hot or
cold, I'm gonna spit you out of my mouth. I could judge Jesus
says, and John say,
he said a lukewarm Christian. Okay. lukewarm Christian. You
know, what's interesting about that is that that guy, not that
he's Christian. Yeah. But when it talks about being lukewarm in
the Bible, it's not talking about basically, you know,
basically being saved and just not doing anything. It actually
defines being lukewarm as, for example, in Revelation 316, it
says, Oh, then because that were lukewarm and either cold nor
hot, I will spew the out of my mouth. Because that'll say is I
am rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing. And
that street preacher right there is just like the epitome
of someone that just doesn't think that he is anything. He's
arrived. And being lukewarm is basically something that tastes
disgusting to God, kind of like the holier than thou. Yeah,
where it talks about it's like smoke because it was nostrils,
you know, the idea of someone that's saying like, I don't
need anything, I have everything I've arrived, right, that
arrogance. And like the holier than thou is when it actually
they're the ones that are more abominable than anybody else.
Oh, yeah. And so it's funny that he's calling this guy
lukewarm Christian. They're probably neither one of them
are Christian. Yeah. But at the same time, like what that
actually means is talking about like, you think you have need
of nothing. When actually, you know, this guy is definitely
not saved. Yeah. No, look, stop, stop getting that. Of
course I am. Yeah, no, you you don't you don't see it because
the Bible says you look you you look in the things of the
flesh. Seriously, you're you're not fucking Jesus. Stop getting
that quote. Stop getting that quote from Tupac saying only
God could judge me. Okay, but but look, the Bible says in
john 724. Oh, I didn't even know he was on the shirt. John 724
says, Jesus says to his disciples, judge a righteous
judgment, which means I'm not going to judge you based on my
emotions. I'm not going to judge you on your outer appearance
and how you look. I'm going to judge you based off the word of
God and what and what God says, Jesus says sin is evil. At this
point, there's no gospel. No, there's not really yelling at
them about being sinners. Yeah. And the funny thing is, it's
like, this is what these street preachers do. They'll sit at
places like that. Okay, so I can't go out and have a good
time. What if I'm just out with my family? Oh, yeah, you're
going to hell because you're not like preaching the word of God
24 seven. Yeah, yeah. What are you talking about, dude? Yeah,
exactly. You know, yeah, because I remember going, we went to
Little Sacramento as me and Pastor Jimenez and his family.
Yeah, you know, me and my wife, and we're just going to go get
food. And there was a street preacher there. And, and it's
just like, one of those things, like, really, I mean, we're
both, you know, both pastors, you know, all this stuff. And
we can't even go get something to eat, because we're not
preaching the gospel. You know what I mean? Right. It's
ridiculous. 24 hours a day, they're preaching it. Yeah,
right. No, that's what it seems like, though, like, okay, you
know, people do other things, right? Then then preach the
gospel and go to church and read the Bible. Like, there's other
things. People got to eat too, you know, yeah, you know, I got
to take care of my family. I got to work. No, no, no, no, no, no,
no. I'll play a little more of this one. There's a couple more
street preachers that are funny. 1615 says go out into all the
world and preach the gospel. The Bible says we can't judge a
righteous judgment. You know what, you know, let me let me
explain that Matthew, Matthew seven says, judge not lest you
be judged. Right. But then three verses after that it says,
but judge your brother, but take the speck out of your
brother's eye. What's that mean? You judge your brother to help
him. He can help people. You make every single. Aren't you
making aren't you making a judgment out of me? You're
making a judgment out of me because you ain't God. You're a
hypocrite. You're telling me not to judge, but you're judging
me. Only God. Amen. God loves you. Seriously, you could be
used by God, but don't take the grace of God. Don't take a
drainage of the grace of God. I've already read. Have you
read the book of Elijah? All the Bible. You're just okay.
You're drunk. You don't know what you're saying, but God
bless you. I love you seriously. I care for you. I hate it when
they say I love you. You know, they know it's so it's so
disingenuous. He's quoting Matthew seven, which obviously
is it's true that it's talking about hypocritical judgment.
Right. So like judge not judge, meaning like if you're guilty
of of a sin, then you're not to be judging somebody. You're
not to be like judging somebody on something that you're
guilty of. Right. Yeah. But it's funny because this guy is like
probably out there teaching you got to turn from your sins to
be saved. A hundred percent. That's all. Yeah. He hasn't
turned from his sins. So it's like, yeah, Matthew seven does
apply to you. It's disgusting. Why do you do that?
It's disgusting. You're you're you're devaluing yourself.
Jesus loves you. He wants to help you. You have to get out
of sin. You have to cut off the sin off your life. The Bible
says the Bible says in Luke thirty-three repent or perish,
which means we have here. What is what does the word repent
mean? Repentance is a change of mind, but also a change of
action. Many people they they repent and they have a change
of mind, but then they don't have a change of action. That's
a lukewarm Christian, but what's required? No, I'm good.
I'm I'm I'm drunk on the Holy Ghost. That's what I need. I'm
I'm drunk on the wine of the spirit. That's what I need. I
don't I don't get drunk off of the wine of men. I get drunk of
the wine of God. Amen. Hallelujah. Oh my gosh. That's
what someone posted Turner Burn baby. Yeah. That's literally
bless you guys in the name. That's literally what it is. Oh
um. Let me see here. You'll probably find it. There's this
there's this one video. This guy where the guy says he
doesn't sin. I thought that was hilarious. I saw this a while
ago a lot. He goes outside of the church and judges people
too. You're going to hell, buddy.
It's her. Let's see here.
Someone mentioned Robert Breitner. Oh that guy. You know
what's funny about him. Hey, obviously he's a
dispensationalist and he's a false prophet, but um he had a
good video on one saved only saved. It's sad that he's a
false prophet. Yeah, but the problem is that he thinks that
people are saved differently in different times. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. It's unfortunate. Okay. So basically these guys come up
to him and uh and he tells them that he doesn't sin. It's just
funny. Here we go. I think it's 120. Okay. It's coming.
So it's a direction. Is that the guy he's doing man? Yeah.
He'll await Jesus. What's both that and that either or why do
you do it again? Why do you do it? You can do it right. So
there's two ways to go about it. No, people are you two.
They're different. That's it. It's not either or it's not
you know, it's both and it's it's it's the goodness and
severity of god. Exactly. So that's what people propose.
Why all the Romans two wrote? Okay. Well, I don't draw in
Christian. I'm talking to say well, well, I'm so sorry. Yeah,
well, I'm sure that you've seen the script that you just did
and the Bible says that the fear of god is the beginning
of wisdom. Okay. You know, and and you must know what is wrong
with them before they can actually repent. You got a
problem. The first thing was I was a sinner. Okay. Yeah and
it's not just actually understanding what your sins
are. Like I'm just a sinner. It's understanding exactly what
your sins are so you know we need to repent of. Okay. You
can't you have to repent of sin in general. You're repenting
of specific sins. You know, when I was when I was in the
world 24 years ago, II needed someone to tell me I was a
junker and a fornicator and a liar and a thief. I needed to
know what I needed to repent of. So, what are you saying now?
Because nobody is without sin. What are you saying now? Because
nobody is without sin. I'm living a holy life. So, you're
without sin? He didn't say that. I'm but I'm I don't have
any sin in my life now that I'm aware of. You have any sin in
your life you're aware of. No, why? You mean no sin? Because
you're aware. No, wait a minute. Hold on a second. This
guy's cool. You see, you see, you see that you seem to be
astonished that I'm actually doing what god says. Oh no, I
like I'm a pretty good person and like I said, I've been to
church. I've been to church. What I'm saying is, you're
saying you don't commit any sin, you know, so. Okay, okay.
Let's let's let's let's define our turn. Let's define our
turn. He said, I commit no sin. I don't know. Did you say that?
You said, I commit no sin that I know of, right? You want me to
speak? Do you want me to speak? I mean, you keep asking me
questions. You know the way to speak. I currently have no
sin in my life that I'm aware of. No sin. Right? So I can do
the past. I could sit in the future. I love how this guy on
the street is just like, you know. It's just, I mean, I mean,
obviously, it's ridiculous to say you don't have sin. It's
gonna get funnier. So you think, you think, absolutely not. So
you're of the opinion. Okay. That's an oblivion. Are you
saying you can't be truthful? Like, you have to lie? What I'm
saying is, you can't live your life with no sin. You have to
commit no sin. I can do all things through Christ who
strengthens me. So what the Bible also says, all men have
sinned. You don't sin. But no, no, you just change it. You just
change it. All men have sinned, past tense, and you're saying
now you are, you're not sinning. Nobody's perfect. Well, I've
sinned in the past, so I'm not perfect in that sense. So at the
speed, let me say 30, you don't go 35? Well, I mean, I don't
mean what? I think the problem here is that you have sin in
your life. You don't have sin in your life.
No, no. What I was asking was, you told me. You told me I have
no sin in my life that I know of, right? That's right. But
you might go five miles over the speed limit. That's not a sin.
That's not a sin. The Bible says follow the laws of the
land. That's the law. So what defines what the law and what
is it? The law of the land. So when have you ever seen a
force? One mile per hour speed limit. Oh, I've been pulled over.
Okay, so under that still good then?
So he's like trying to say that five miles over the speed limit
is not breaking the law. This guy right here is like trying
to say like, oh, I don't have any sin in my life. I maybe go
five or five miles over the speed limit, but you don't get
pulled over for that. So therefore it's not breaking the
you know, oh, I didn't get caught. So it's interesting
because, you know, this guy that he's talking to is probably not
saved either. No, because he's talking about turning from sins
too. But he's easily self aware to realize like, hey, we all
still sin though. Like I feel like learn from all these. I
feel like this guy couldn't get saved though. Like he's Yeah,
like he you definitely see like you you could probably reason
with him. You can't. It's hard to reason with somebody that
literally thinks that they're sinless. Yeah, somebody says,
haha, I've spoken to people like this that said I don't sit
anymore. And if they do anything bad, they ask for forgiveness
straight away.
What you're saying is they're saying, Yeah, no, it actually it
is. That's what you think. No, I don't I don't believe that.
You're not listening. You don't want to listen. It seems like
you just want to accuse what you want to do. Well, I mean, if
you're actually let me talk. Yeah. But if you're gonna be
like him and just accuse me of things and get all animated, I'm
not gonna talk to you.
Look how he's getting defensive.
Actually, I never said yes, I do. I never said that. I what I
disputed was that it's not a sin to go over the speed limit.
It's not breaking the law.
Going over the speed, they write you a ticket.
You can tell these guys like, what are you talking about?
Okay, so let's say it's 35. And I go 36. I've broken the law.
Yes.
I've never been for that.
Okay, so let's let's let's know what you're saying. Let's say
let's say it actually is a sin to go 36 and a 35. Okay.
Okay, like we're in Beijing. Are you saying it's impossible to
go 35?
Are you saying it's impossible to go 35?
No, but yeah.
I want to hear this.
I want to hear
Paul was not saying every man stop.
I want to hear not a good leader.
Stop. So it's a sin to not sin.
We're not doing this in that sin.
You said Paul was the same.
That's not what I said. I said Romans seven is talking about
the unsaved Paul.
When Paul is talking in Romans seven, he said in Romans
chapter seven, when Paul is talking about, I think, is that
the one when he or is that chapter eight when he says I
do these things?
Seven is where he's saying that the things I do or things I
would not I do.
He's saying Paul wasn't saved there.
Wow. You I mean, you'd almost have to if you're gonna believe
this garbage.
Yeah, so he thought Paul did was without.
Yeah, you know, he's writing when he's writing chapter.
Yeah, what an idiot.
And you can tell me.
I mean, he's literally he's literally speaking in present
tense. Yeah.
Like what an idiot.
I mean, that's what you have to do.
What he was saying.
That's what I'm referring to.
So Peter denying Christ.
Are you saying he was Peter wasn't saved before that?
What does the Bible say?
Okay, so what's your point?
Or that in the Bible that I wish these guys right here just
know the verse where it says, if we say that we have no sin,
we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
If they just had that verse, because this other guy, the
street preacher isn't giving him any verses to prove what
he said.
Oh, that's what I heard this guy Young Don say that verse
he's talking to.
He said on his live stream that that's talking about people
before they were saved.
If we say if we say I have a video of it.
I mean, I mean, I guess if you're gonna just make the Bible
say whatever you wanted to say, and just grammar and words
and pronouns don't matter and tense doesn't matter.
This is so funny.
This isn't much longer right here.
I don't think you're actually listening to me.
I don't think you even care to hear what I have to say.
You have you have a preconceived notion about what I'm
saying and you interrupt everything I say and you actually
read the things I'm not even saying.
I didn't say Paul wasn't saved.
I didn't say he wasn't saved.
No, I did not.
I did not say that you're lying about me.
Romans 7 is Paul talking about when he wasn't saved.
Yes, it is.
Idiot.
So what does Romans 6 say?
What does Romans 6 say?
How about, how about David?
After God's own heart.
There we go.
Well, number one, that was said of him in first Samuel before
he even became king.
When he was about to be picked as king, Samuel went to his
father and God said, I'm after a man after God's own heart.
Do not look upon his appearance.
Man looks at the outward appearance.
I feel I'm talking about David before he was king.
God looks at the heart and God said to Samuel,
I'm looking for a man for God's own heart.
That's first Samuel 16.
No, it says I found the man.
This doesn't mean that from there on out, he was always a man
after God's own heart.
Are you saying he was a man after God's own heart when he
was committed to the Masjidah?
He was.
I mean, that's where it comes down to is they have to say
David wasn't saved.
Oh, so even though, doesn't it say the spirit of the Lord
was upon him?
Did it say that?
It literally says that David, that the Holy Ghost spake by
the mouth of David.
And then, you know, he's a sweet psalmist of Israel, man
after God's own heart.
And where was that?
What's that?
And what verse was that?
Which one?
The man after God's own heart?
Yeah.
So Acts chapter 13 says, and when he had removed him, he
raised up unto them David to be their king to whom also he
gave testimony and said, I have found David, the son of
Jesse, a man after God, a man, a man after mine own heart,
which shall fulfill all my will.
Found not like, well, one day, right?
One day he'll be a man after my own heart.
They, they a hundred percent have to twist the scripture to
make it fit their narrative.
Like, oh, see, David wasn't saved or Paul wasn't saved when
he was doing this, when he clearly is.
Yeah.
It's insanity.
It's insanity, but that's the lengths they have to go to, to
try to push their false doctrine.
Yeah.
I love like that guy, both those guys.
Yeah.
You know, like, like pulled out David.
Like you can tell, like they know a little bit.
I hope they get saved.
I hope those guys get saved.
I know, right?
Wait a minute, don't answer the question.
Is he a man after God's own heart while he's committing
adultery?
You are deceived.
You are lost.
You think so?
It's after God's heart when they're committing adultery
and then having the husband killed to cover it up.
Yes.
You're lost.
Adulters will not inherit God's kingdom.
According to the scripture.
He repented.
You heard Nathan?
Nathan was a prophet.
I didn't say it did, but you're telling me he's the man
after God's own heart while he's sinning.
It's impossible.
You're a double-minded man.
I'll stay with all your words.
You're a man who paid for the same thing with Christ.
No, no, no, no, no.
This is the guy who thinks he's going to bring souls to heaven
by telling the truth.
By telling the truth.
You're not.
I'm not telling the truth.
What's not truthful here?
You're not.
What I hear is not truthful.
You're not.
Because all those people that are there are in heaven.
A bunch of those people are in heaven.
Oh, they're repented.
They're in heaven.
They repented.
Nobody died and sinned in heaven.
Huh?
Nobody died and sinned in heaven.
Jesus.
Jesus said that again?
Nobody had to sin in their life.
Wait, wait, wait.
Absolutely not.
You're repenting of yourself.
He's an idiot.
Yeah, that'd be like, yeah.
Call me an idiot.
They're going to match me five.
He's mad that they called him an idiot.
Good.
He deserves to be called an idiot, honestly.
I do want to address someone.
Someone mentioned Robert Breyker.
Yeah.
Talk about him.
Talk about Robert Breyker.
So Robert Breyker, he literally states that in the tribulation, people are going to be saved by
works and that if you take the mark of the beast, then you're going to hell.
And if you're a believer and you take the mark of the beast, which obviously the Bible teaches
that no one's going to be deceived.
And I believe it's impossible for a believer to take the mark of the beast, but he literally
teaches a workspace salvation.
You know, he's stating like, well, right now.
You know, we're saved by grace, but it wasn't that way before.
And it's not going to be that way in the future.
That's insanity.
Especially when you look at the fact that Abraham believed God and it was imputed on
him for righteousness and David also the same way.
And the fact that it's always been that way.
You're saying that there's multiple gospels at that point.
And I don't care if right now in this moment, he thinks that the gospel we're in, like one
of these gospels is saved by grace through faith.
He's literally saying that there's going to be millions of people in heaven that were
saved by works.
Yeah.
You know, and you're saying that there's another way to heaven besides Jesus.
And whether that's right now or any other time in history, that's another gospel.
That's multiple gospels and he's unsaved.
Somebody said there'll be raptured by then.
That's why after the rapture, it will be of works.
Yeah, that's false gospel.
If you believe that people are saved different other than grace through faith, if you think
that people are actually going to get to heaven other than through Jesus Christ's blood, then
you're not saved.
You're rejecting the gospel.
You're saying there's multiple ways to heaven.
You might as well be a Hindu that says, I'm adding Jesus to the list of gods out there
because you have to believe that he's the only way.
Right.
You know, Jesus says, I am the way, the truth and the life.
No man comes into the father by me.
You try to rest in the law.
You're not going to make it.
Yeah.
Dispensation you're in, which that whole dispensational argument of there being different
dispensations is a bunch of garbage.
I actually have this video of this guy talking about, I showed you this guy before, but he's
talking about a young God reborn explain how it's possible to follow the law perfectly.
What does he say?
It's a video of him explaining how it's possible to follow the law perfectly.
It's just funny.
Well, I could disprove that with just what Jesus says in Matthew, where he talks to the
rich young ruler about keeping the commandments.
And he literally says, Jesus says with men, it is impossible.
Yeah.
So there's your answer, but yeah, go ahead.
Real believers.
Somebody says real believers don't sin and know God.
Of course you can't sin.
The spirit can't sin.
He that is of God cannot sin.
Your spirit, you walk in the flesh all day.
Of course.
Yeah.
Both those things have to fit when it says, if we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and
the truth is not in us.
But then it also says who sort of born of God does not commit sin for his seed would
mean it then.
And many cannot sin because he's born of God and who serves born of God.
Sin is not.
Both those things have to be true or the Bible is in contradiction.
It's contradicting itself.
But what it's talking about is the fact that inwardly we are sinless, but on the flesh
that in our flesh dwells, no good thing.
And that's where we sin on a daily basis.
Yeah.
Our flesh can sin all day.
What's that?
Our flesh can sin all day and the flesh can still commit all the same sins.
And obviously we're supposed to reign it in.
We're supposed to, you know, basically put off the old man, put on a new man on a daily
basis.
That's why Paul says I die daily.
But you know what?
Most people don't do that every day and we should try to do that.
But yeah, for sure.
But obviously that has nothing to do with us going to heaven.
That's the main, the main key takeaway.
Let's see here.
Let me start this off.
It's called Young God Reborn.
Explain how it's possible to follow the law perfectly.
Let's hear this.
What would you say to see?
Because I push back on this because I actually believe that a man can get to the point where
he's not breaking any of God's laws.
So it's a process, right?
Yeah.
It's a process.
Now that we got people in the band before people are like, oh, that's crazy, right?
We can turn to Luke 1 6, right?
And it says right here.
Let me just run through a couple of these real quick.
Right.
And then you can tell me what you think.
I can write just before God walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord
blameless.
Right.
And so there we got that's talking about John the Baptist parents.
Then we go to Job 1 1.
You feel me?
Job 1 1.
And then we got boom.
And there was a man in the land of Uzz whose name was Job.
That man was perfect and upright and one that feared God and eschewed evil.
And eschewed means hated.
So he hated evil.
Then you got, you know, the verse about Noah, right?
You got the verse about Noah and it says, right?
And these are the generations of Noah.
Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations.
And Noah walked with God.
Now, it doesn't mean these people don't never send in their life, right?
We know there's only one man who's ever pulled that off because people are born sinful.
But I think what it is is as you when you come to know God, right?
When you come to know God, you can make the decision not to break the laws, right?
I look at it like people think, oh, it's impossible to not sin.
It's like there are only about 600 plus laws in the whole Bible.
There are 30,000 laws that govern America.
The average person walks around thinking they're not a criminal.
So it's like, wait, you telling me you can go every day not breaking one of 30,000 laws
as an American citizen, but you can't go a day without breaking one of God's 600 laws,
which he says are not grievous to me.
I don't.
I think that I don't.
So and you know, we're told to be perfect and all these things.
Now, I don't think perfection is necessary.
And but I do believe I just don't.
Where in the Bible does it say we can't be perfect?
So I think when we get to 1st John, it says there's none of us that don't sin.
Right.
Where's the I think it's in none of us who don't sin is the passage.
There are none who don't.
This is the best part.
I think it's 1st John chapter one.
Yeah, I think when you go to 1st John one, it kind of you can rock all the way through it.
Yeah, here it is.
It talks about yep.
So if we walk in the light as he's in the light, I think we got to look at the whole passage.
So let's start at you think I think is good, right?
It says this then is the message which we've heard from him in the clearance you that God
is light and there's no darkness at all.
So it's given an ontological argument for what God is.
Something what God's like, right?
Yeah.
So people listening will just walk through it, right?
If we say we have fellowship with him and walk in darkness, we lie and do not and do not the truth.
So what does that mean?
Right?
If we walk in darkness, meaning sin, we don't know him.
Yeah, right.
But let's go on.
But if we walk in the light as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another
and the blood of Yeshua the Messiah.
His son cleanses us from all sin.
Yeshua the Messiah.
If we walk in the light as he's in the light, why do you need his blood to clean you?
But if we walk in the light as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another
and the blood of Jesus Christ, excuse me, his son cleanses us from all sin.
So I mean the way how I read this and of course I could be wrong about it.
The way how I read this is this is talking about conversion.
It's talking.
So when it says, right, if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
I look at this as when you come to Christ, right?
That's the first obstacle is accepting that you are an ungodly, wicked sinner.
And you have God's wrath stored up upon you.
And so you need Jesus to cleanse you.
I mean, if you know, and this is a question we would have for the, you know, I'm saying
the one saved always save people.
How many times does Jesus's blood cleanse us?
You know, is it not a one-time thing, right?
Are we, do we have to get cleansed every day?
I thought we were washed, you know, in the blood of Jesus, you know, one time.
And we've been forgiven for our sins.
Is that, is that not how it's interpreted?
So the way how I see it, I think it's talking about the point of conversion.
And that's why it goes off into chapter two.
And then it says, you know, I write these under you that you sin, all right, unto you
that ye sin not.
And if any man sin, we haven't, and the ver, and very, the very fact that he puts it like
that, if any man sin, I think it implies the idea that it is possible to get to a state
where you stop sinning.
So what I think is interesting, we look at the Greek, right?
Yeah.
Back to chapter one.
Yeah.
Let's look back at the Greek because that's going to help you out when you don't know
That guy's a messiahic Jew.
That's what he said.
Yeah.
Well, with his Yahshua garbage, I mean, the Greek, the New Testament was written in Greek
and there's no S-H sound in Greek.
So have fun with trying to get that from the Greek New Testament.
In Greek, in Greek, what is it?
It's Yizus.
Oh, okay.
Like the modern Greek pronunciation.
Yeah.
But I mean, yeah, you're not getting Yeshua.
Where do they get Yeshua?
Well, I mean, it's like Hebrew.
It's like our Hebrew pronunciation for Joshua, which is a derivative of Joshua.
Right.
But, you know, so if you're, listen, if you're in Israel and you speak Hebrew and you say
Yeshua or Yeshu, and that's how you pronounce Jesus.
Great.
But this guy isn't from Israel.
He's not a Hebrew speaker.
They're saying that because there's a modus operandi for them to deny the name of Jesus.
Yeah.
And you know what?
In English, if you speak English, the name is Jesus.
Yeah.
You know, so that's interesting.
If you speak Spanish, it's Jesus.
Yeah.
So it's not about pronunciation, but they have a tilt, you know, where they're trying
to get their false doctrines out there.
Yeah.
I was always wondering about that when people say Yeshua.
Yeah.
As soon as you hear Yeshua, Yahweh, all that stuff, you know, there's false doctrine coming.
And I remember when in the NLT, it said Yahweh.
Doesn't surprise me.
Yeah.
And does it say Jehovah in the King James?
Well, I mean, if you're in the Old Testament.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Old Testament.
Yeah, if you're in the Old Testament, but most of the time where it says where it would
use that tetragrammaton for Jehovah, it's just Lord.
Yeah.
Which the New Testament, they're following suit with the New Testament.
So in the New Testament, when Jesus quoted the old, when Jehovah would have been used
in a quotation, it just says Lord.
So it's following suit with that.
Yeah.
But, you know, I don't think pronunciation is like, you know, the end all, like, thing
that we should be fighting over.
But obviously, when people say Yeshua, and they say Yahweh, that means they got this
Hebrew roots garbage background that they're trying to push.
Okay.
Yeah, I was always wondering about that, because I never said Yeshua.
So I was like, wondering, why do people say that?
Well, the Yeshua thing is just completely unfounded.
When it comes to the Yahweh thing.
No one knows how that word was pronounced.
So Hebrew was a dead language for I don't know how many hundreds of years in it.
And basically, pronunciation is reconstructed.
The pronunciation and everything was reconstructed in like the 1800s, I think.
And so when it comes to, like, knowing what the pronunciation is, like even people now
when you think of like, ancient Greek, they're like, I'm pronouncing it with modern Greek
pronunciation.
Yeah.
We don't know exactly.
No one had tape recorder back then.
Right.
So when people are just like, Well, no, you had to say it this way.
It's like, no one knows how it was pronounced.
Right.
And even in the New Testament, they didn't even use the word.
Yeah, they didn't have cameras.
So Jesus couldn't vlog himself back then.
Say, Hey, what's up, guys?
What's up?
I said Jesus couldn't vlog himself on the camera and say what's up guys?
Yeah, so when people go down that path, and they're stuck on that too about like, well,
the name of Jesus is false.
It's like, well, then they're a false prophet.
They're talking about somebody commented valid courses, isn't he called Yeshu in the Talmud?
It means may his name be blotted out forever.
So, I mean, the Talmud has a bunch of wicked stuff.
But so for example, Joshua, the name Joshua in the Old Testament.
Yeah, his name was Joshua.
And then other places, it was Joshua.
So if you look in like the Minor Prophets, it'll talk or I think it's actually I'm sorry,
I think it's an Ezra or Nehemiah where it says, Joshua, talking about Joshua.
So you can kind of see even just from Joshua or Joshua, where you can get that derivative of Jesus.
Yeah.
And you think about like names in the Bible, when it's in Greek, like Elijah is Elias.
Yeah.
Isaiah is Isaias.
So when it's a Greek equivalent, it's gonna look a little different.
So that's why Jesus is a little different than Joshua.
But like I said, if you speak Hebrew, and that's how you pronounce the name of Jesus,
great, you know, obviously, as long as you're not blaspheming him.
But, but when it comes to, you know, if you're, if you're talking about the original language
that it was written in, it's, you know, like, that's, that's what it was.
It was in Greek.
So when people try to say, Well, no, that's wrong.
That's wicked.
Then they're, they're basically denying the Bible.
Yeah, let's see here.
Yeah, we got a little bit left.
Chapter one, seven.
Okay.
Right.
So it's interesting, right?
The, so the walking, right?
It's peripatale.
This is the walking.
Okay, this is the
Yeah, that's like the word for walk in Greek.
Good job.
Which means what might happen.
Yeah.
Indicative is a fact.
Right.
Subjunctive is like what could happen, the possibility of something happening, right?
That's why it says if, right?
Yeah.
If we walk in the light of season light, right?
We have blood, right?
All right, stop right there.
Because I'm gonna, I'm gonna miss this in the button really quick.
If we walk in the light as he is in the light, the Bible says you are light.
You are the light of light in the world.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna look at the passage where it says that you are light in the Lord.
Walk ye as children of light.
It says in Ephesians.
So when it talks about walking, that is different than being saved.
The Bible says in Galatians chapter five, if we live in the spirit, let us also walk in the spirit.
It says in Colossians chapter two, if you have received therefore the Lord, so walk ye in him.
Walking in the spirit is, or walking in the light is not talking about salvation.
That is talking about putting on the new man, walking in the new man.
That's talking about keeping his commandments.
And these people are just completely ignorant of the Bible.
When they, when they go to look at walk and that means like, oh, we gotta be saved.
You gotta keep the commandments.
Completely ignorant of the Bible.
Walk in the spirit.
Cause if we're not walking in the spirit, obviously at that time,
wouldn't you say we're not loving God if we're not, if we're walking in the flesh?
Yeah, exactly.
And that's why it says hereby we do know that we know him if we keep his commandments.
And the thing is, is that knowing God is different than being known of God.
And even in Galatians, it says after that you have known him or rather are known of him.
Yeah.
Right.
And obviously you have to know him to a certain extent to get saved,
but knowing God is a process and it's something we're never going to attain to.
And that's why Paul says that I may know him and the power of his resurrection.
And, but it's not as though I'd already attained.
It says that I may apprehend Christ, even as I am apprehended of Christ.
Okay.
So knowing God is a process.
And what first John's stating is that if you're not walking in him, if you're not,
if you're not keeping his commandments, then, then, then you're lying.
If you say, you know, right.
And so that's, that's the whole premise of the book really is that it's talking about
that your joy may be full because, you know, basically you need to abide in him.
You need to walk in him.
You need to know him.
And if people are saying that they, if people hate their brother,
then they can't say they're walking and abiding in him.
Right.
Like it's giving you all these different examples of like,
you're not walking in the spirit.
Right.
You're saying you're abiding in him and you're sinning.
It's like, well, no.
Yeah.
Some guy goes in to watch porn.
Obviously he's not abiding in Jesus.
Yeah.
I mean, but so obviously there's times when I'm preaching the gospel,
if I'm preaching the gospel to somebody, guess what?
I'm abiding in the vine.
I'm abiding in him and I'm not sinning when I'm doing that.
Right.
But I'm not always abiding in him.
Right.
That's something that we're always constantly trying to do and take quite abiding in him
or walking in him with salvation.
It's just completely to be completely illiterate of Bible doctrine and what the Bible says.
So, yeah.
And it just makes so much sense.
It's like, yeah, while we're doing this, if we're walking in the flesh, we're not abiding.
If we're walking in the spirit, we are abiding.
Yeah.
And that's why Paul, if it was automatic, then Paul wouldn't have to tell us.
You wouldn't have to write all these things.
Yeah.
We'd just be like, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
God shall be saved.
And we're not saying that there's not like times in the day where we're not sinning.
Oh, I understand.
It's just the idea to think that you just like stop sinning and you're keeping the law now.
And that's why, and that's proof that you're saved is insanity.
Okay.
But obviously we're trying as much as possible not to sin.
And we're not saying like there isn't stretches of time where you're not sinning.
But I mean, to him that know what to do good and do it and not to him it is sin.
The thought of foolishness is sin.
I mean, David talked about his secret faults, you know, like the forgive him of his secret fault.
And so, I mean, these people are just out to lunch.
Yeah, no, a hundred percent.
Context.
Everything needs context.
Cleansing it.
See, the cleansing is not in the subjunctive.
It's in the indicative.
It's in the factness in the present also.
Okay.
They both happen at the same time.
Okay.
That means you're missing the mark and he's still cleansing you.
Okay.
At the same time, they're happening in the present.
That the potential for the cleansing is to happening.
It's the potential forces in the subjunctive.
It possibly could happen if you walk in him, right?
It's a potential to happen.
But indicatively, if you pay with, he will absolutely truly cleanse you.
You get what I'm saying?
So the both things are happening at the same time.
The cleansing and the walking.
So it's not saying he cleansed us.
So now we walk in the light.
He says, if we walk in the light, pursuing him, the blood cleanses us and purifies us as we go.
And that's what accommodates for if you do sin.
Okay.
There's a caveat to this is really important.
Let me explain what they don't understand when it comes to that passage.
When it's talking about cleansing us from our sins in this passage,
it's talking about fleshly.
It's talking about the body.
Okay.
And Hebrews chapter nine explains the difference between the Old and New Testament.
But it's talking about this issue right here.
And in verse 13 of chapter nine of Hebrews, it says,
For if the blood of bulls and of goats and the ashes of an heifer,
sprinkling the unclean, sanctified to the purifying of the flesh,
how much more shall the blood of Christ,
who through the eternal spirit offered himself without spot to God,
purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God.
So in the New Testament, it's obviously better.
In the Old Testament, if you wanted to get right with God physically
and have good fellowship with him, you had to take like a bullock.
You had to take some kind of animal and do a sacrifice, right?
In the New Testament, if we confess our sins,
he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all righteousness.
We have Jesus Christ as our high priest and mediator to basically cleanse us from all sins physically.
And yes, that blood applies to this physical cleansing that happens on a daily basis.
If you're confessing your sins to him and you're trying to basically walk in the light.
But to try to equate that to eternal salvation is the problem, right?
To equate that to your soul in this passage is where that's off the rails.
So I can't hear you, your volume.
Oh, sorry.
No, I was saying that's just ridiculous.
I feel like they just don't get it.
Let's see here.
There's only a few minutes left, right?
And the next verse, we'll read it.
First, John one eight.
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
Okay.
See, and I bet you, I'm going to look at the have and the have is probably in the
present as well.
One eight.
We say that we have, right?
Yes.
That plural present active indicative.
It's a fact.
Right.
So we have sin, right?
Right.
But if you've cheated on your wife, if you've committed murder, if you do things that are
against God's morality and then you come to the Lord and you confess him as Lord of your
life and you live for 10 years and you're still doing the same things you did from 10
years ago with no improvement.
Right.
I think that's an issue.
I think there's a heart issue, but it doesn't mean that you don't have other little things
that can still be lingering and you're working out the sanctification.
Sanctification is becoming more set apart by clearing out more of the junk in your life
that's contrary to God.
Right.
And once this body's dealt with and we have the resurrection, then we can be whole and
complete because the idea of blamelessness and a lot of these ideas of Job, remember,
Noah was righteous according to what?
His generation.
Right, right, right.
He's compared to everybody around him.
He was good.
Yeah.
But as soon as he got off that boat, what he did?
Oh, he got a nice scissor, right?
Yeah, he started drinking.
He's like, I made it off the boat.
You know what I'm saying?
He's happy.
Yeah.
So he started sipping, got drunk and it created a generational curse and issue for his
children.
Right, right, right.
You know what I mean?
So I think they're righteous in their generation.
And even that passage about Job talks about completeness and wholeness because what did
Job do?
Job offered sacrifice for his children while they were out there partying all the time.
Yeah.
For sins that they might do.
Job was a priest for his family.
It's a constantly interceding.
So it isn't that Job didn't make mistakes, but his relationship to God was through what
the establishment, what God had given and his heart was leaning towards him.
Yeah.
And that's what made him whole.
Not that he never sinned, but he found the right avenue to get right with God, which
for us is the Messiah.
Right, right.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
I mean, but, you know, but then I see this and this kind of like, but if we say that
we have not sinned, right.
It's not saying, but if we say we do not sin.
Right.
So because then because to me, this makes a problem for chapter two because chapter
two makes it it's he's talking like you can get here, bro, because he says, my little
children, these things I write on to you that ye sin not.
Yeah, no doubt.
Right.
So that right that and if any and if any man sin, we have an advocate with the father,
Jesus Christ, the righteous.
And he is a propitiation for our sins and not for ours only, but also for the sins of
the whole world.
And hereby, we do know that if we know him, we keep his commandments.
He that says, I know him and keepeth not his commandments is a liar and the truth is not
in him, but who so keepeth his word in him verily is the love of God.
Perfected hereby.
We know that we are in him.
He that says he abideth in him or himself also to walk as he walked.
And so, you know, and then, you know, we got people who got Jesus saying be perfect.
Yeah, right.
You know, I'm saying and so the way I look at it and you know, and this is why we got
to allow scripture to speak to us individually, right?
I mean, I believe that a man can get to a point where he's not breaking God's laws.
You know, there's this I think this idea that you cannot attain, you know, can't walk upright
as Joe walked right as as John the Baptist parents walked.
I personally actually think because this that's not in the Bible.
It doesn't say that we cannot, you know, we can't be we can't keep all the commandments
right?
If why would God say the commandments aren't grievous?
Why would Jesus say to be perfect?
Why would you know, why would why would it list people who it claims to have kept the
commandment?
When he said Jesus said to be perfect, is he talking about when he told that to the
rich young ruler?
No, it's talking about be perfect even as my Heavenly Father and Heaven is perfect.
People don't people don't realize what the word perfect means.
It means like complete.
So they're thinking it means sinless and same thing with blameless.
They'll say blameless means like sinless and that means no one could be a pastor then because
you need to be blameless.
But but think about this David the king.
It says that his heart was perfect before the Lord.
And you know, to think that he was sinless, you know, is I mean, that's ridiculous.
So so yeah, when it comes to being perfect, obviously we're talking about complete, you
know, the man of God may be perfect throughly furnished unto all good works.
You know what I mean?
Like it uses that phrase, but it's a term that means basically complete.
And so people take that too far and they'll think it means sinless.
Yeah.
Wow.
Let me see here.
I think there's like 10 seconds left.
To get got to a point where they keep all the commandments.
Because atonement is part of the law.
Okay, go and talk.
You feel what I'm saying?
Atonement is part of the law.
Okay.
Forgiven for our sin.
Yeah, that was it.
Let's see here.
What's this?
I'm reading the comments.
See if anybody had anything.
Um, some people, some words were changed for our sake, but it didn't change the meaning.
You know what I, gosh, somebody said Robert Breaker believes in a pre-trib
rapture of all believers.
That's why during GM, the tribulation, there will be works involved like being beheaded.
I mean, there's people that believe in pre-trib rapture.
They don't believe in work salvation at that time.
So, I mean, wherever you believe, obviously we believe what the Bible teaches, which is that
Jesus is going to come after the tribulation, but before he pours out his wrath.
But either way, like saying that there's works involved in salvation at any point is heresy.
100%.
Yeah.
If they couldn't do it, they didn't.
People think that like back then it was, um, works, but obviously, I mean,
it's in Ecclesiastes where it says there's not just man upon earth.
It was good and sin is not.
So, I mean, you know, it's not like they were sinless back then.
Oh, they weren't?
What's your favorite book in the Bible?
Uh, it's hard to pick, but I probably, if I were to pick a book, I'd probably be the gospel.
John.
Yeah.
John.
And then, yeah, to be honest, I couldn't really pick.
It's hard because there's so many different, uh, you know, like stories and different
things and stuff like that to where, but I mean, the gospel of John, you know, obviously is the
one book written for the purpose of salvation.
So, um, it's just so clear, you know, and just, uh, revealed.
Uh huh.
Let's see here.
Let me see what this, uh, street preacher here.
Uh, let's see, pull this up.
Let's see the gospel he's preaching.
Students quietly listen to street preacher.
All right.
Let's see this.
Okay.
Oh, you can see it.
Paul says that's his opinion.
Paul gives his opinion sometimes because I haven't found the right woman yet.
Listen, ladies.
I know I'm good looking, but I'm not interested.
Jesus rose from the dead.
Jesus Christ.
Exactly.
The gospel of Mark was in 30 years.
Second.
Wasn't even, you know, there was one that I found funny.
Um, maybe it's this one.
Geez, man, let's see here.
Um,
well, I don't know if I'm going to find it.
Whatever.
One thing I wanted to read, because a lot of people are just like all, you know,
um, you can't just sin and accept, accept to still be saved.
Um, there's a Psalm 89, I think is a great passage, um, to kind of talk about the fact
that we can't lose our salvation.
Um, and, uh, you know, people are, you know, they mock the idea of like having, uh, that
we're saying that you can just sin afterwards or whatever, but, uh, let me just read.
Psalm 89 verse 28.
It says, my mercy will I keep for him forever.
And my covenant shall stand fast with him.
His seed also will I make to endure forever in his throne as the days of heaven.
If his children forsake my law and walk not in my judgments, if they break my statutes
and keep not my commandments.
And notice here's the repercussion.
Not that we're going to go to hell.
It says, then will I visit their transgression with the rod and their iniquity with strife.
Nevertheless, my loving kindness will I not utterly take from him nor suffer my faithfulness
to fail my covenant.
Will I not break nor alter the thing that has gone out of my lips.
Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David.
His seed shall endure forever and his throne as the sun before me, it shall be established
forever as the moon and as the faithful, the faithful witness in heaven, Selah.
So it's stating that, yeah, if they break my commandments, they don't keep my, you know,
they break my statutes.
They don't keep my commandments.
Then he's going to visit us with the rod.
And that's why it says the Lord loveth him.
He chases and scourges every Sunday we receive it.
But my loving kindness will I not take from him because God can't lie.
You know, if we, you know, he is faithful and he can't deny himself.
And, you know, this idea of like people mocking that, well, you're going to go to hell because
you're trusting and keeping the commandments to go to heaven.
So because if Jesus paid it all, why are you still doing that?
Yeah.
And listen, if you want to be judged according to your works, you will be.
Yeah.
Make sure they're perfect.
Yeah.
I mean, so there's going to be a great white throne judgment where the Book of Life is
open and where the books are open, which I believe is the Bible.
And it said, you're going to be judged according to your works in those books.
So you're going to have the wall and you're going to have to be judged out of that.
But guess what?
There's not a just man upon earth to do with good and sin.
It's not.
So you're not going to make it.
And what, what was the exact, it was Psalm 89, which verse?
So Psalm 89, I started in verse 28.
Oh, okay.
And then I went down to like verse verse 37 there, but yeah, it's crazy.
It's crazy that people don't think eternal life is eternal, but whatever.
Oh, I found the video actually see here.
See here.
Okay.
Yes.
So you believe the earth?
They love their sin more than God.
Just driving.
It's not okay.
Just seeing in the eyes of God, God, God, anything that goes against God and what
goes against God, disobey what he says to do and what not to do.
Read the Bible, sir.
If you're illiterate, why are you going to this college?
That was a good answer.
What's that?
There's no verses.
Like he's not saying any verses.
And then when someone asks him about it, he says, go read the Bible.
Yeah.
It's just like nothing.
Just, just like how condescending this guy is to everybody there and just
how like he's striving.
I actually interviewed him one time.
Did you like, this was like over a year ago.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I should have a street.
I should have him come back on and you should debate this guy.
Well, you know what people will say, well, wasn't Jesus a street preacher.
I want to read a verse about this because this guy is like striving with people.
The Bible says the servant of Lord must not strive, but be gentle.
Right.
Yeah.
And in Matthew 12, 19, talking about Jesus, it says he shall not strive nor cry.
Neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets.
So no, Jesus wasn't a street preacher.
Yeah.
And he did preach to people like on the mountain, the plane on a boat.
They wanted to live, but people came to see him preach.
Yeah.
Actually people were like, he was trying to get away and people would follow him.
Yeah.
And so just what these people do is just completely against what the Bible teaches.
Obviously these people aren't saved because they're preaching like term from your sins.
So I'm kind of glad people don't want to hear it, just to be honest, you know,
like when people are rejecting us, the bad part is, is that they're giving Christianity a bad name.
So people look at that and they think that's Christianity.
That's what, you know, that's what Christians are about.
And so that's the bad part of it.
And you know what?
I was gonna, I was gonna actually say, I forgot when I went soul-wanting,
I think the first person's house I went to, he was actually saved from what he told me.
What's that?
The first person's house I went to, I forgot when I knocked on his door, he,
he was actually saved from what he told me.
Yeah.
He said through Jesus you know, he's he died for my sins.
He just said Jesus and then, and then he didn't think you could lose salvation.
Yeah.
And that's, we run into saved people all the time.
And, and it's funny because these repentance guys would probably look at them and say they're
not saved, even though they're like literally stating that they're saved by the blood of Jesus
and all that.
And it's, it's insanity.
And he's like, they're looking at this whole crowd, just assuming everybody's unsaved.
You can't know, you can't even have an inkling of whether someone's saved unless you ask them
what they believe.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's such a, it is really a railing accusation that's being made.
Just because they're out in public and not preaching the gospel.
It's like they're out in public, out of school.
Well, I went to school and I was saved.
I went to, I went to a university.
I was in engineering and guess what?
I was saved.
And so if someone's like yelling out, you're not saved.
Well, that's a railing accusation, you know?
Yeah.
In a lot of cases, it's not a railing accusation, but you're just throwing that out whimsically.
So would you say that what's his face?
Billy Graham's probably like the most popular preacher.
He used to be.
I mean, obviously he's dead now, but he was like a big good.
Definitely.
I mean, he, Billy Graham was like, he was like on those old Dean Martin roasts.
And stuff like that back in the day.
I mean, he was, he was known by like Ronald Reagan and everyone.
He's loved by the world.
That should tell you something.
Yeah.
Cause he preached a 50 step repent of your sins gospel.
Well, and the Bible says, woe unto them when all men shall speak well of you.
Yeah.
You know?
And whenever a preacher is loved by the world, you know, they're not, they're not legit.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
All the most popular YouTube channels, like so-called Christian YouTube channels, they
all preach a false gospel, repent of your sins, hold, and they're holier than now.
Every single one.
And that's fun.
And yeah, I don't know if any big channels that are free grace, one saved, only saved.
Well, the problem was the problem is, is that we've been all blacklisted.
Pastor Anderson had over a hundred and some thousand subscribers.
And then you probably have a million by now if it's channel didn't get wiped out.
And, and that was even with some blacklisting back then, you know, just the fact that,
you know, they don't, people don't like to hear the truth.
Someone asked on here, this is kind of a completely different topic, but it, he said,
this one person's asked like, how do you ha how to have fun as a Christian?
And you know what, like as a Christian, people think that, you know, just because we don't
drink and we don't do drugs, like you can't have fun.
But I mean, honestly, I have a lot of fun being a Christian and we do a lot of fun stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, so, I mean, it, to me, the most boring people are the people that have to drink and
do drugs to have fun.
Like if you can't like have a good time without doing that, you know, like then
I don't know what to tell you.
Yeah.
But, you know, well have kids and then you don't have to worry about even worrying about
having fun because you don't have any time.
Right.
100%.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I was never really into drinking before.
Like I would do it here and there, but it wasn't like an ongoing thing.
And then, I mean, the only thing I did other than that was every now and then I'd smoke
pot, but I didn't even try weed or really smoke weed until I think I was like, gosh,
cause I got out of the Navy.
So I was like 20, 26.
So, I mean, that was a long time.
Yeah.
And listen, I went to college and there was all kinds of stuff around.
Yeah.
And the thing is, is that people use that as a crutch to have fun.
You know what I mean?
Instead of just like having a good time doing other things, going places you know just doing
fun.
I mean, for example, we went, we did a Spartan race and you may say, well, that's not fun,
but you know what?
I thought that was a lot of fun where we, we did all these obstacles.
We were running all this stuff.
We were training for it.
And you know, that type of stuff is fun, but I mean, I don't know.
It's just people think that you have to have alcohol.
I mean, like, think about it.
Like, what do, what are people doing that's so much fun that you can't do as a Christian?
You know what I mean?
Like, what's so, I mean, take out the alcohol and take out the, you know, like the drugs
and everything.
And obviously people are, you know, obviously for an occasion or something like that.
But like, what, what, what, what can they do that we can't do?
You know, that's it.
That's the one that's, that's really it, to be honest.
I mean, it really does boil down to that type of stuff, right?
Yeah.
I mean, and I remember it was just like with fornication, when I would do it afterwards,
I would usually always be like, can I just get this girl out of here, man?
Like I didn't even really, like after the fact, I felt stupid about it.
So it was not, obviously it's not fulfilling it.
Obviously God's plan is, you know, marriage is honorable and all on the bed undefiled.
So that's the way to be, you know?
And there's no guilt there.
It's, it's the way it's meant to be.
But when did you get saved?
I don't think I've asked you.
So it was like two years ago, but I still, you know what the crazy thing is?
I like, I never was like an atheist or anything my whole life.
I always believed like Jesus was real, but I never had anybody give me the real gospel.
And you know what's funny?
I never even understood it fully until it hadn't been like a little less than a year ago
until I fully understood it because I was confused because I started off with watching
Steven Anderson and then I got led astray because I ran into some false teachers and
I started getting confused, like Paul Washer and Ray Comfort.
And then I stopped watching them.
It was funny because I've stopped watching them as soon as I got an interview.
I interviewed Steven Anderson, like we're doing right now.
And then after he got done talking to me, I went and watched his once saved, only saved.
And then I understood everything.
I was like, okay, this all makes sense now about doing works and about
just all of salvation pretty much.
And I think that's really when I really got saved.
Like really got saved.
No, because I didn't understand.
Well, and you know what?
That's interesting because I was kind of in a similar situation years ago when I got saved
because I grew up Catholic and obviously I didn't get saved there, but I went, I started
going to like non-denominational churches.
Which aren't they a denomination typically though, even though they say they're not.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, exactly right.
But yeah, I started going to non-denominational churches and most churches will give lip service
to saved by grace, not by works.
And you kind of hear that stuff and you're kind of like, yeah, it makes sense.
And they'll even preach sermons about how you're not saved by works and all this stuff.
So it's kind of like in the back of your mind where you're kind of like, okay,
salvation is by faith, salvation is by grace.
But it wasn't until like, I went to this Baptist revival when I was in high school
that the rubber band hit the road, you know, where it's like, if you think you can lose
your salvation, you're not saved because you're trusting in some work to get you there.
And it's gotta be by Jesus Christ alone.
That's when it's like, it all clicked.
But it was kind of like one of those things where it was kind of culminating, you know,
like you're getting all these things and it's kind of piecing together.
But then there's that moment where you're like, there it is.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's, that's literally the same thing pretty much.
Like, and then obviously not, it didn't happen in the same way, but a similar experience,
like it hit me and I'm just like, oh, makes sense.
Saved by, saved obviously by faith alone and just by God's grace.
And it's obviously all through Jesus.
Cause sometimes before I'd just be unsure, like, oh, what if I do this?
Would I lose it?
Like, and that's the devil's, that's really the devil's doctrine.
Make constantly not even you not even knowing if you're saved.
Yeah, especially when the Bible says, you know, and, and but yeah, that's awesome.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's sad that that's the way it works.
Oh, let me show you this.
Let's see here.
This would be so funny if you, if you went into, oh my gosh, hold on here.
What the heck?
Oh my gosh.
You know, you know how like all you guys, you wear suits when you preach?
Yeah.
You know, would it be funny if you prank everyone in the church
and basically you go and dress like this one day just to mess with everyone?
Was that a spandex outfit or something?
It's like eight.
It looks like an H and M.
Hold on.
Let me see.
There's a, there's more here.
Imagine you came in like this guy, Steven Furtick.
Let me see here.
Oh, let me find a better, more clear picture.
A lot of these people, I wouldn't be able to fit into their jeans.
I don't know.
It's like, so I'm trying to find my church would just kick me out immediately.
And it'd be like, I would have to know something's up.
Like you're pranking them.
Yeah.
I actually almost did have to preach in board shorts and a dry fit shirt.
Yeah.
We did.
We did our, we had our church anniversary last year and we got a dunk tank.
Yeah.
Speaking of people, you know, I think that's fun.
You know, they were dunking the pastor.
So anyway, you know, I had my clothes in my, in my, uh, office and someone locked the door
from the inside in our key.
The key to the door was in the office.
So we had to like, like Jerry rig, this like coat hanger to try to pull the, the knob from
the inside or pull the handle from the inside.
But I was like, we were, we were doing that for a while trying to get in there.
I'm like, I'm going to, cause we had another service.
We were in between services.
I'm like literally wearing like this Spartan race, like dry fit shirt with board shorts
on with no socks, like barefoot.
Yeah.
So it almost happened.
Not, not the fur tick guy, but it almost happened.
That would just be so funny.
Like if you just came in, like, like just this for like five minutes came in like that
and went and changed just to like, Frank, everybody to see if you like their reaction,
like you got to film their reaction.
Like when you kind of think I got fit in their clothes though, like that type of stuff.
I don't think you realize, like when I put on like regular, like just regular fit pants,
they don't make pants for men anymore.
You know, I don't, I don't understand how these guys fit in these things.
Yeah.
Skinny jeans.
Yes.
I'm just like, I, I put on regular pants and they feel like skinny jeans anymore.
So somebody said, what'd they say?
They said they think that that young dong guy is cloned because he went, because he went,
he literally went from Calvinism to free grace, one saved, only saved.
And then he went to literally just the works of the law.
Really?
Like kind of like flip flopping around.
That's a lot of flip flop.
And how do you like literally within like two weeks you went from complete free grace,
one saved, only saved to the works of law.
I mean, what?
Like anybody who's read, who understands the Bible knows it's not the law ever.
Yeah.
I mean, obviously he didn't actually believe.
No, I don't think so.
Cause I think, I don't think anybody could actually.
Well, I mean, the Galatians were bewitched, right?
And when they were talking about like circumstances and stuff like that,
and they were bewitched and all that, and even Paul says, I'm afraid of you.
Let's not bestow upon you, but to be bewitched something really small,
it's still a big deal, right?
When it comes to dealing with salvation, you have to be completely like, you got to keep
the whole law and you can be sinless and all this stuff.
It's like, that's another level.
That's wicked.
Oh, and then another thing, maybe you could touch on this.
You know how people say, oh, aren't we all Christians?
Like, shouldn't we just be working together?
Like when you call out prophets.
Yeah, exactly.
Big difference.
We're not singing kumbaya with people that preach another gospel.
Actually, you know, the Bible says, the Bible says in first Corinthians, outside of even
like where it says that if any man preach any other gospel, let him be accursed.
It says in first Corinthians chapter 16, if any man loved not our Lord Jesus Christ,
let him be anathema maranatha.
What's the one about answering a heretic?
Well, and when it comes to the heretic, it says an heretic after the first and second
admonition reject, knowing that he did such a subverted incentive to being condemned for
himself.
So when you're out like soul winning, for example, you know, someone that's not, you
give them one admonition about what the Bible says, they reject it, give them one more,
reject it after that, it's on to the next person.
Yeah.
And that's what I try to tell because some people will be, oh, you're just heresy hunting.
No, it's not heresy hunting.
It's, it's literally exposing these false prophets.
So people don't get, you know, confused like we did.
Well, yeah.
And so there's twofold there, right?
You want to show, Hey, these people are wrong.
But then also it really does show you like, okay, here's, here's like the arguments.
Yeah.
Here's the arguments against one saved, always saved.
Here's the arguments against eternal security.
Because it's always good to see when you're looking at any doctrine in the Bible, you
always want to basically try to destroy it.
You know, you want to find the holes in it to make sure that it's valid and it's, it's
solid, right?
So if no one can put holes in it and you can prove like through the Bible, like through
and through when people try to put holes in it, that it's, that it can't be done.
And you know, you're right.
Like,
100%.
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Like this stream.
I actually put a video together.
It was like, all the stuff, I clipped the stuff that Don Guy said, and then refuted
it with clips of Steven Anderson.
Yeah, I think I saw I didn't get to watch all of it.
I think I saw a little bit over there.
And it's like, I had some people say, Oh, well, you know, you just showed like short
clips of Don, but you didn't need to show any further clips, because then he changed
the subject.
And it was all in, you know, people always will think, Oh, is it out of context?
But no, it was all in context.
I'm not going to like, make someone look bad.
Like for no reason.
That's just stupid.
It's a waste of time.
Yeah.
Obviously, on our end, we always want to be honest, you know, about what someone's
saying, or there's enough people saying false doctrine out there that we don't make
up what people make it up, you know, or try to make it things up.
They're not.
I mean, these people we've been looking at.
I mean, it's just, I mean, that Alan Fargai.
Yeah, I mean, you know, he's talking out of both sides of his mouth.
He's saying he believes in eternal security and all this stuff.
But then he makes a whole video that states that you may not be a Christian.
If you don't do this, right?
Yeah.
At the end of the video, he's like, Well, we should do this.
It's like, which one is it?
You just made the whole title of this video is basically, are you really a Christian?
Yeah.
Are you really safe?
Are you really going to heaven?
And that you should be afraid.
And all this stuff if you're not doing this stuff.
Yeah, it's like, but he wants to play both sides because he wants to not have any, any
type of, you know, buddy coming at him to say different.
Well, I'll come at him.
I was gonna say, and people say, Well, somebody's saved, wouldn't they?
You know, they're gonna have a changed life.
And, you know, they're gonna do this and that.
But at the same time,
Captain inverse.
Yeah.
Well, where does it say that it's automatically going to have a changed life?
Never.
It doesn't.
Yeah.
So it doesn't say that actually, a lot of cases, it'll state that how you're going to
struggle to do right.
And obviously, we should, like everybody should, and we should try to strive to live for the
Lord and keep his commandments.
But to think that just because someone gets saved, they believe on Christ, that automatically,
they're just going to start doing like all God's commandments just on.
Right.
Well, if they're not reading their Bible, they're not in prayer, and doing things like
that, they're just going to stay walking in the flesh, they're not going to be able to
walk in the spirit.
If they don't know what they need to keep, they're not going to know it's all in here.
So if they're not reading their Bible, they're not going to know how to walk in the spirit.
Right.
But, you know, I and, and that's the thing.
And that's why I'm like, that's just ridiculous.
Like, if I'm not reading my Bible, or doing any of that stuff, I'm going to walk in the
flesh, I know for a fact, I'm going to go back to my old ways and do that, I'm not going
to be in the new man.
But if I'm obviously reading my Bible, and I'm in prayer, and, you know, doing all that
other stuff,
I'm going going to church being a fellowship around believers, and I'm talking to people
that believe the Bible, that's going to help you do what you should be doing to if you
hang out with a bunch of like, unbelievers, or even Christians that aren't doing what
they should be doing.
Yeah, then you're gonna end up doing what they're doing, you know,
yeah, you start to become you get influenced easily by what you're around if you're around
that stuff all the time.
So it's easier for people to pull you down for you to pull them up.
Yeah.
But I got, yeah, I just try to hang around people that are actually good influence.
And not gonna put me in the wrong direction.
But when did when did your church like, officially open?
September 17, 2017.
Oh, okay.
So has it grown a good amount or?
Yeah, we've grown every year.
When we started, we started from scratch.
So but we had about around 20 people when we first started.
And now, if everybody comes and no one's sick, which is always a challenge, especially around
this time of year, we're actually getting close to around 100.
Oh, that's pretty good.
That's pretty good.
So.
So yeah, it's grown.
Actually, we're we're kind of busting at the seams.
We just add our buildings, and we're gonna have to look for a bigger space here.
Oh, nice.
Well, that's good.
But you know what, we have a lot of kids and a lot of a lot of people are having kids.
So you know what, we're gonna grow one way or another.
Yeah.
You know, I was gonna say, just talk about the church's growth, like steadfast with Pastor
Shelly, it's funny how people thought they were like, Oh, we're exposing this church
for being hateful.
But then it just made the church grow even more.
Yeah, you know, the Bible teaches that persecution, tribulation, that actually,
the Word of God goes further, it grows, people, people dig in their heels.
When when you start pushing them.
Yeah, you know, you start pushing Christians against the wall, they're going to dig in
their heels, and they're actually going to stand up for what they believe, maybe.
Yeah.
And, you know, it's sometimes persecution and tribulation is a good thing, because it
brings unity in the church, and you'll maybe have some people that will leave because they're
afraid, but you have a lot of people that are that are unite, and get stronger.
So but also, I believe it's a it's a trial to, you know, steadfast going through a lot
of that trials and tribulations, you know, going through that stuff, and staying strong
on what they believe.
They're going to be rewarded for that.
I mean, you're you're standing on the Word of God, you're standing on truth.
And it's God who builds the church anyway.
So right, it's not it's not our job as the pastor, the church members to build the church.
We just pray for laborers and the Lord provides.
So no, 100%.
So what I was gonna ask you about, like, just reading when you're reading the Bible, how
do you when you're when, like, because you obviously you understand it so well, and with
the context, like what is there anything that specifically helps you understand in context,
certain things?
Well, I mean, obviously, just reading a lot.
I do a lot of audio Bible reading as well.
So when I go to work, I'm listening to the Bible, and then, and obviously reading in
general.
But don't take the Holy Ghost out of it.
So sometimes, if I'm looking at a really hard passage, and I'm trying to understand it,
I'll pray that the Holy Ghost will give me understanding in that area.
And sometimes, just to be honest, you have to move past that, that spot, if you're having
problems understanding it.
Yeah.
It's sometimes there's other places in the Bible that will shed light on it.
Yeah.
But honestly, that just that's just reading, and then keeping it in the back of your mind,
like, hey, that passage is there that I don't understand.
And then, you know, eventually, I believe the Holy Ghost will give that to you.
Another thing to think about, too, is understanding the Bible, is that the Bible talks
about they that are full age, you know, strong meat belonging to them of full age, even
those who by reason of use, have their senses, exercises discern both good and evil.
I believe the people that do the works that are actually keeping, you know, like what
they know, that God is going to actually reveal more to them.
Yeah.
So I don't think it's an accident that like churches that are all about soul winning and
doing, you know, the first works and all that stuff, that those are the ones that have good
doctrine.
Because I believe God's blessing, you know, the Bible says the fruit of the righteous
is a tree of life, and he that win his souls is wise.
So I believe soul winners inherently are going to be wise because God will bless them with
knowledge and understanding, you know, more than the typical Christian that's just saved,
you know, that's trying to read it.
But yeah, reading, just read.
Just keep reading and reading and reading and reading and, you know, give attendance
to reading.
I can't stress that enough, I guess.
I definitely feel like I've gotten a much better understanding just from listening to
sermons and just reading a lot.
Well, in the Bible says, blessed are those that hear and blessed are those that read.
And then it also says that in Titus, for example, that his word was manifest through preaching.
So, you know, obviously, you as a Christian, you don't need anybody to teach you what the
Bible says, because you have the Holy Ghost, you can understand it all yourself, right?
But as a preacher, as a pastor, my job is to feed the flock.
So getting sermons where someone is prepared and put in the time to look at a doctrine
to say, hey, here it is, here's your meal, eat this, you know, that's going to accelerate
that.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
And, but you need both because I, you know, you don't want to, I don't think you should
just like read and not listen to any preaching to go to church.
Yeah, I also don't think that you should just go to church and listen to preaching and not
read, you know, you need to do both.
So, yeah, definitely.
And that just, that just helped me, like, I don't know, I feel like I've gotten such
a better understanding in just the last two months of the Bible, like of the Bible in
general, like things that I didn't understand.
It just all came to me.
It's kind of crazy.
Yeah, it's fun, isn't it?
Like, yeah, see how stuff fits.
And then I listened to some of these people talk about the Bible.
I'm like, you're an idiot.
Not to sound rude, but I'm like, no, this is not.
And if you're dealing with saved people, if you're dealing with saved people that are
off on doctrine, I try to give people patience, you know what I mean?
But at the same time, these are false prophets.
I'm talking about like false prophets, not just.
But I'm just saying like, because there's been a lot of things that I've, when I got
saved that I've changed, like my thoughts on or my doctrine on certain things that I
just didn't know, you know, just ignorant and read it, didn't know.
And so, yeah, but I love just seeing how everything fits.
And it just strengthens your faith in the Bible, too, because there's so many things,
there's just no way that this was written by man for everything that handing love like
it does.
Go read this and then read the Quran.
And you tell me which one is written by God.
I can't even get through the Quran.
I've tried.
Yeah.
You know, it is so lame.
Even the read it just so I can tell a Muslim I've read it.
Yeah.
I just I can't I can't do it.
It's just so dry.
Yeah, 100%.
It's like reading a nonsensical book.
You don't know where it started or where it's ending.
Yeah.
It's so bad.
Yeah.
Let's just trust the let's just trust the dead guy to save us.
Yeah, Muhammad.
Yeah.
The thing I always say is when they say, oh, go to the Quran.
How old was Aisha?
She was six when he got married.
Yeah.
That's what I always say.
How old was she?
Well, she was different back then.
You know, I there's just one guy that was like, he's like, see if it somebody said,
so would you marry a six year old today?
Oh, no.
I mean, not by today's standards.
But what about back then?
Well, back then?
Yeah, I would.
Because that was normal.
That's what the guy moral standards change over time, apparently.
I mean, that's what our society says anyway.
But that's just insanity.
Of course, that's what the world's pushing today.
Right.
That love has no age.
Yeah, that's just garbage.
Yeah, that that's the end goal, though.
Are you going to go to the this camera was called this conference in Texas?
I don't think so.
Oh, okay.
Is there is there a comp?
Is there a I think there's a what's it called?
In Texas.
Is it a King James conference?
No, I don't think it's King James, but I can't remember.
Obviously, I'm not going with that.
No idea.
It's in like September, October.
Ben was telling me about all that fast.
Is that a faithful word?
Uh, is that fast?
Yeah, I think people were having one in October.
I'm probably going to be at that one.
Yeah, there's this there's the the red hot that's in July.
I'm going to be at that one.
Yeah, that's a very.
Yeah, I wanted to go but I'm like, I don't really want to go to California.
To be honest, I feel your pain out of all out of all places, at least out in Texas.
Come on, man.
Hey, West Virginia is better.
Just say no, I'd rather go there than California.
We just passed a law that you can't like transition kids, so.
Oh, you're getting hormone blockers.
You know what makes me laugh?
Speaking of that, like when they say, well, I like Rhonda Sanchez better because he made
a law so you can't read books about sex to eight year olds.
But when they're nine, you can.
Yeah, it's like all politicians are a joke, man.
Like they all got their hands dirty.
They got dirty money, man.
That's all.
That's what it's about.
The end of the day.
Yeah, you better not trust not trusting any of them.
That's no just Trump.
Only Trump.
He's gonna say this.
I had this.
I had this guy.
Well, he didn't know that I was trolling him on my friend's show.
He has my friend has a show on this network called the Blaze and he brought me on and
I was acting like this Trump supporter.
I was all dressed up and stuff and.
This guy got partied by Donald Trump, this sheriff, and let me see here.
I could actually pull it up because it's on.
Let's see.
It's on his thing.
Okay.
Oh, it's on his other.
There it is.
So Alex Stein.
Yeah.
Okay.
Let me see here.
Let me fast forward.
God, I'm your host with the least prime time, Alex Stein, and we have a great show for you
this evening.
We have Sheriff Joe Arpaio coming on to kind of humiliate me and make me wear women's.
Oh, my friend.
Yeah.
My friend Alex knows me, but the sheriff doesn't know me.
That's what's funny.
Oh, I know that sounds crazy, but it's true.
And then after him, we have on the lovely Stardust who is a liberal debater, but she's
a beautiful and lovely.
Mine comes from the heart.
So that's the way I feel like that's from Maricopa, Maricopa County.
Yeah, it's tough.
I've been saying it all over the United States, but that's my connection with Donald Trump.
Well, no, that's beautiful.
And I'm actually here with a guy named Chester Mitchell.
He's one of Trump's biggest fans and he's a big fan of yours.
And he just wanted to thank you so much for your work.
So what do you want to say to Sheriff Joe?
I just appreciate everything you do.
I back the blue and, you know, I wish I could get in touch with Donald Trump.
I mean, that's probably been my lifelong goal.
Well, he's not going to get you in trouble.
He's not.
Do not.
He's not going to connect you with Trump, dude.
So don't.
Chester, I bring up my program with this incredibly famous sheriff.
And now you're trying to get connected with Donald Trump.
Can you have some professionalism with the guy?
I'm just telling the facts, right?
I know you want to meet Donald Trump, but this guy knows Donald Trump.
Sheriff Joe right now is probably very confused.
That is a huge fan.
And he sent me a message.
I got a fine.
Sheriff, what is six years?
Yes, sir.
Because then sure.
So I spent about as the head of the DA in Arizona.
All right, dad, it could be a lot.
It could be a clone.
So is Alex being that we just saw this guy or like, well, Alex was being serious.
And then basically he just healed.
I was co-hosting and then I just trolled the people.
I was trying to see that he knows you're trolling him, right?
Oh, yeah.
That's my friend.
Yeah, he did.
Alex knows.
But the other guys don't.
Right.
I was looking for the part when I was talking to the sheriff.
Administration trying to throw cops under the bus because they're trying to do their
job.
That's where the money goes for a good cause.
No, no, you're exactly right.
But long story short, one of my dad's head of the federal drug force from Mexico has
can you hear Canada?
Can you hear dad?
You're on speaker.
I think it's a deep state clone except your show.
That's what I like to hear that you can trust is here.
Things are wrong, but that's okay.
Yeah, things are way wrong.
I'm insane.
You know, I was dropped on my head as a child and as a matter of difficult business.
So they're pretty.
All right, sir.
Joe, we're going to go to PinkShorts.com.
Make sure to go.
I can't find the part, but he was like, I was I was basically because you know how everybody
will Trump just trust the plan.
Trump's playing chess.
You ever heard that?
Trust the plan.
Like, yeah, basically they would say that whatever like basically whatever Trump's doing,
just trust the plan.
He's playing.
He's playing 5D chess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's not that smart.
He's the smartest person.
Have you seen this video?
Oh my gosh, this is actually even better.
Trump.
God for forgiveness.
This is funny.
OK, yes.
So we've got people lined up for questions.
I just got one more because you used to ask God for forgiveness.
That's a tough question.
I don't think in terms of I have I'm a religious person.
Shockingly, because people are so shocked when they find this out.
I'm Protestant.
I'm Presbyterian and I go to church and I love God and I love my church.
And Norman Vincent Peale, the great Norman Vincent Peale was my pastor.
The power of positive thinking.
Everybody's heard of Norman Vincent Peale.
He was so great.
He would give a sermon.
You never wanted to leave.
Sometimes we have sermons and every once in a while we think about leaving a little early,
right, even though we're Christian.
Dr. Norman Vincent Peale, Frank, would give a survey and would give a sermon.
I'm telling you, I still remember his sermons.
It was unbelievable.
And what he would do is he'd bring real life situations,
modern day situations to the sermon.
And you could listen to him all day long.
When you left the church, you were disappointed that it was over.
He was the greatest guy.
And then, you know, he passed away.
But he was a great hero.
The power of positive thinking, which is great.
But have you ever asked God for forgiveness?
I'm not sure I have.
I just go and try and do a better job from here.
I don't think so.
I think if I do something wrong, I think I just try and make it right.
I don't bring God into that picture.
I don't.
Now, when I take, you know, when we go to church and when I drink my little wine, which
is about dealing with God, he can't admit he's wrong.
That's a form of asking for forgiveness.
And I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed.
OK, but, you know, to me, that's important.
But in terms of officially, I see I could say absolutely.
And everybody, I don't think in terms of that, I think in terms of let's go on and let's
make it right.
So let's again, you've gone into it.
If I don't ask this question, this audience will be disappointed.
Straight question.
What is your relationship with God?
Well, I pray I go to church.
Do I do things that are wrong?
I guess so.
You know, I guess I'm a business person.
I really do well at business.
I I've done great.
I've made some of the great deals.
I own some I own some of the greatest properties in the world.
And my God, I think God helped me personally.
I think God helped me.
I think, you know, look, God helped me by giving me a certain brain, whether that's
a good thing or a bad thing.
You know, I went through a phenomenal school, the Wharton School of Finance, which is said
to be the greatest business school in the world.
I did really well there.
He's a great student.
So, I mean, I was born with a certain intellect that is good for this.
John McCain goes, oh, boy, Trump makes my life difficult.
He had 15000 crazies show up.
Crazies.
He called them all crazy.
I said they weren't crazy.
They were great Americans.
These people, if you would have seen these people, you I know what crazy is.
He's the king of being a narcissist.
That's a panderer.
Yeah, he is the king of pandering.
This is let's see this one here.
That it's him shouldn't be.
Let's talk about the race here in Iowa.
It's getting really, really compact lines against you.
I'll tell you what, if you look at his answer, because somebody asked him, I said, it's him
months ago when you said that you've never asked God for forgiveness.
Do you do you regret making that remark?
No, I have great relationship with God.
I have great relationship with the evangelicals.
In fact, nationwide, I'm up by a lot.
I'm leaving everybody.
That's all I hear.
I'm up by a lot.
That's at the end.
Anybody in the right mind would say that they've asked God for forgiveness unless they're
totally blind like him.
He's so narcissistic.
He doesn't even want to say that he's asked for forgiveness to God.
He said, well, actually, God's asked me for forgiveness.
He said, how can I make your right?
True.
Yeah, be good.
I don't like to have to ask for forgiveness.
And I am good.
I don't do a lot of things that are bad.
I try and do nothing that's bad.
I live a very different life than probably a lot of people would think.
And I have a very great relationship with God.
And I have a very great relationship with the evangelicals.
And I think that's why I'm doing so well with
I mean, even that statement, like I have a great relationship with God.
That's a narcissistic, proud thing to say, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like, we all hope that we have really good relationships with God.
And we're hoping we're, you know, like on good terms with God.
But, you know, he didn't think of he's something when he is nothing to see that it's himself,
you know, like Trump.
Yeah.
Like, let me see.
There's the one where, let's see, he's a Bible verse.
Have you seen the one where he gets asked about his favorite Bible verse?
One Corinthians.
Oh, right here.
Okay.
No, that was that was actually a different one.
But this one's funny.
I've got to tell you, when Donald Trump does something, I plan it.
You mentioned the Bible.
You've been talking about how it's your favorite book.
You said, I think last night in Iowa, some people are surprised that you say that.
I'm wondering what one or two of your most favorite Bible verses are.
I wouldn't want to get into it because to me, that's very personal.
You know, when I talk about the Bible, it's very personal.
So I don't want to get into it.
I don't want to get into it.
There's no verse that means a lot to you that you think about or cite.
The Bible means a lot to me, but I don't want to get into specifics.
Even to cite a verse?
No, I don't want to do that.
Are you an Old Testament guy or a New Testament guy?
Probably equal.
I think it's just an incredible.
The whole Bible is an incredible.
I joke very much so.
They always hold up the art of the day.
I say my second favorite book of all time.
All right.
So Donald Trump says,
Oh, this guy's funny.
He's actually made videos about Steven Anderson, I think.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
But I'm guessing he doesn't like him.
No, he hates him.
Yeah.
But maybe I should put a compilation of those Trump videos together.
That's actually kind of funny about him talking about God.
Yeah.
It's like every president.
What do you think of like, maybe it was two Corinthians or something like that?
Yeah.
No, that was it.
Then you had Biden who said the Palmist.
Oh, that was funny.
That's even worse.
I think it's this one right here.
I think this is the clip you're talking about.
Let me see.
Two Corinthians.
Yeah.
The Palmist was even worse than two Corinthians.
Yeah, yeah.
The Palmist.
Yeah, that's worse.
Okay.
Let's see.
I'm pretty sure this is going somewhere.
Maybe other religions, frankly, they're banning together two Corinthians.
Oh, yeah.
Two Corinthians, right?
Two Corinthians, three 17.
That's the whole ball game.
Where the spirit of the Lord, right?
Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty.
And here there is Liberty College, but Liberty University.
But it is so true.
You know, when you think, and that's really.
Oh, he's at Liberty University.
Is that the one you like?
I think that's the one you like.
Because I.
He doesn't even know.
That sounds like the very first time he actually read a Bible verse.
Someone said.
That's a joke.
I don't even know what I would title that.
Just put like Trump.
Like Trump has never asked God for forgiveness.
And then it's like him citing the Bible.
Two Corinthians.
Yeah.
That sounds literally like me when I first tried to read the Bible.
That's what I would have said the first time I pulled it out.
I mean, yeah, we've all mispronounced like names of the Bible.
Oh, but there's some difficult words in the Bible still like, or like names of people.
I'm like, I don't know how to pronounce this to be honest.
Yeah.
I mean, there's a book called Habakkuk.
So, you know, there's that.
And I'll have to go listen to the audio on the app.
Hey, yeah.
You know what?
Audio is where if you want to get those names right.
You know, a hundred percent.
I'm going to jump off here.
Oh, same here, man.
Yeah.
I appreciate you coming on.
And I definitely want to set up something where you could debate someone.
I mean, I'll definitely throw down on somebody.
Yeah.
If you want me to.
Yeah, that'd be good, man.
Just I don't know how it'll go.
You know, as far as like the discourse.
Yeah.
Well, I'll moderate.
So nobody like talks over anyone, but yeah, I think that'd be pretty good.
And people want to watch something like that too.
I just have to actually get them to agree to it because a lot of the time, like,
like the, that Isaiah Salivar guy, he never responded.
He doesn't want to do it because, you know, he knows,
he knows that he would get exposed as a false prophet with his work, salvation.
But yeah, I'll try to find someone.
Definitely some I'd say someone that's probably like just teaches work, salvation.
Somebody said, get young Don on.
But the thing is young Don will never debate anybody.
Like he won't, he won't do it.
He'll just hide.
I even donated like a hundred something dollars to that guy and he wouldn't even
bring on anybody.
Yeah.
A lot of these people though, like that guy, like you can even,
it's just like, you're there without reason.
You know, when they, when they look at a person that says, you know,
if we say that we have no sin and they,
and he's trying to basically say that that's not what it says.
It's passed before you got saved.
People say stuff like that.
You're almost just like, I can't even talk to you.
Like you're not reasonable.
Yeah.
Like, like grammar doesn't matter to you at all.
English doesn't matter to you.
So at that point, it's kind of like a moot point to even talk with those people.
Oh yeah.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
I'll let you, I'll let you go.
I'm gonna get off too, man.
But yeah, guys, be sure to be sure to follow Jason's channel on YouTube.
It's just Mountain Baptist Church.
It'll come right up.
It's got like tons of tons of great sermons on there.
You could definitely learn a lot.
I was actually halfway through your first John sermon.
That one was pretty good.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
That's been a little while.
First John.
That was first John chapter one, but I got to finish that one.
I was like, so caught up in like listening to like all these different sermons and then
I'll have to go back to them.
Yeah.
I really like first John.
Let me know what you think.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
I think it's so far so good.
So I'm going to finish that probably tomorrow.
Cool.
All right, guys.
Have a good one.
Be sure to like the, like the stream and yeah.
I'll just shoot you a text.
Yeah.
Coming on and stuff like that.
All right, man.
You too.
All right, guys.
Be sure to like and be sure to subscribe.
Okay.
This is his channel by the way.
Mountain Baptist Baptist Church.
There's his channel.
This is his channel right here.
So that's what his channel looks like.
It's just Mountain Baptist Church.
Yeah.
We all think we have good works, but, but actually Isaiah chapter 64 verse six says
that, but we are all as an unclean thing and all our works are all our righteousness are
as filthy rags.
It says Isaiah 64 verse six, but we are all as an unclean thing and all our righteousness
as filthy rags.
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