So is salvation free? Yes, but it costs our life. Oh my gosh
Okay, so I am here with Pastor Mejia and today we're gonna react to this video by
Isaiah
Saldivar Saldivar can even pronounce his name, but the video title is once saved only saved
Can a Christian lose their salvation so, you know what let's just get into it already so we don't waste any time
Are you ready? Yeah, let's do it. All right, here we go. We're gonna talk about what saved always saved
Is it possible for a Christian to lose your salvation or to walk away from the faith?
We've done 600 plus videos on this channel. We've never done a video on this
I want to give you what I believe what I believe the Bible says about this topic
You know some people teach that once you're saved no matter what you do how you live
You'll never lose your salvation and the other group teaches, you know
If you go live in darkness after getting saved, then you were never really saved
But to me, there's a lot of word semantics when it comes to once they've always saved
So my focus is not to be I'm the judge of salvation or I'm deciding who saved
I really believe that God is the judge of our salvation. No one truly is the judge but God so I'm not talking about
You know if you go in the world you were never really saved and how do we know if you're saved or not?
I'm talking about after receiving salvation. I'm gonna keep it simple after being born again born of the Spirit
Is it possible to then lose your salvation and stand before God and God say?
Depart from me or you're not getting into heaven. I want to talk about that. I want to keep it simple
I don't want to go into well
If you were truly saved you've never sinned and if you do sin or backslide you were never truly a Christian
He's never had a dumb thought I guess he's he's never done something that he knows he shouldn't do
He he's preface seeing this entire video by saying I'm not the judge of salvation, but the entire video is about him
Judging someone's salvation saying that they do sin then there they won't really they're not saved
They lose their salvation, but it's funny that that he makes this hypocritical statement that he's not judging anybody about their salvation
But then this entire video is literally about him saying that people sin they lost their salvation
I mean, it's completely hypocritical, but it's only the big sins. But look you can do the little ones
Jesus only died for the little ones. Yeah. Okay. Let me get back into it
It just gets really complicated
I think the overall view is is it possible to lose your salvation and I want to talk to you in the Bible
Why I believe let me just say in the first minute of this video
I believe once you're saved it is possible to lose your salvation if you live in disobedience to God
Can the devil take your salvation? No, can anyone pluck you out of God's hand? No, but if you choose to
Disobey God and to leave God and to follow the plan of the enemy and to turn your back on God
It's possible to lose your salvation
We have to remember this that God honors free will
Throughout the Bible ever since the garden when Adam and Eve decided to sin against God
They lost their place in the garden God from hold on a second
so losing your place in the garden and
Salvation are two different things
I don't know what he's talking about because of the fact that when they lost their place in the garden God
It wasn't that Adam and Eve did righteous works and then they were covered
You know, they're the multitude of their sins were covered, you know, apparently according to the Bible they made garments of
Leaves together in order to cover their nakedness and God had to sacrifice an animal
Right, which is a picture of Jesus Christ in order to cover their nakedness
And so according to the Bible that picture salvation not them being in the garden being in the garden and actually pictures before salvation
When we're in the state of innocence
When we before we reach the age of accountability and then you know
Your conscience is open to good and evil
You recognize you've sinned against God and you need the atoning of the Lord in order to be saved
So this theology is definitely messed up in that area and when you consider that a punishment to get kicked out of the garden
Yeah
So God's right there that's Hebrews 12 6 for whom the Lord loveth he chaseth and scourges every son whom he receiveth
So yeah, but at the end of the day, you know, the fact is is that you know prior to them
Even getting kicked out of the garden
They weren't essentially, you know innocent which is what Romans chapter 7 talks about that
They had no knowledge of good and evil
until they ate of the tree and then you know
They essentially are covered by
The Lord's atonement by sacrificing the animal and so that's he that's an even better picture of salvation
Because of the fact that Jesus Christ is the Lamb of God who should take away the sins of the world
once we recognize that we've sinned against God and that we're sinners before the Lord that we cannot save ourselves that we cannot so
Leaves leaf aprons to cover our sin by doing righteous works
Because our righteousness are as filthy rags in the eyes of God then at that point we need to go to the Lord who can
Who's the only one who can essentially cover the multitude of our sins by his sacrifice?
That's what that pictures
All right. Let's get back into it. Um creation honors free will so this is very important when discussing
Once saved always saved because people that are preaching once they've always saved
I remember debating this girl years and years ago and she kept saying doesn't matter what you do
You can't lose your salvation
I asked her I said so if I go right now and go live in Las Vegas and I made this you know crazy made
Up scenario and sin and live against God and never serve God again
And you know go live a sinful life when I get to heaven when I stand before God God's gonna let me in she said
Yes, because you've been saved once you're saved. You can't lose your salvation to me. That's crazy
That's what I think about when people say once they've always saved
I I'm not again here to judge your salvation and say when you pause it real quick you sin I do believe it's possible
Yeah, it's funny. He he keeps
He compares salvation to doing to serving God, which is doing righteous works
Yeah
He keeps saying because you're saved if I'm serving God and so he kind of lumps those two together
And of course the Bible explicitly says over and over again
The salvation is not our works of righteousness, which we have done
But according to his mercy he saved us for my grace here
You saved your faith in that not of yourself
It is the gift of God not of works list any man should boast and so over and over again
He keeps talking about well if I'm serving God if I'm saved and and then you know
If I'm not serving God, then that means I'm gonna lose my salvation. He's adding works to salvation
That's what he's doing serving God takes works
I mean verse 10 of Ephesians 2 says we are his workmanship created in Christ
Which got us before a day that we should walk in them and so that means serving God
So if he's claiming that if you're not serving God
Then you lose your salvation then what he's implying is you have to do good works in order to maintain your salvation
But here's the problem with that. Is that the thief on the cross never even had an opportunity to do right words
he hung on the cross and he died right then and there and
Unless you want to say that he is the exception to the rule which there is no such thing as an exception to salvation
You know, then this guy's wrong because the thief on the cross died a criminal
He's being put to death because of a crime that he committed and he wasn't able to get baptized
He wasn't able to serve God. All he did was confess with his mouth and
The Lord said thou shalt be you today thou shalt be with me in paradise. So
Let's continue
Let's get back into it
Once
You serve God to turn your back on God stand before him on Judgment Day and the Lord say depart
So I want to give you five verses
Why I believe the Bible makes it clear that yes
you can turn from God and lose your salvation the first verse I want to give you is Hebrews chapter 6 verses 4 through 8 and
I want to just listen very closely to what it says here for it is impossible
for those who are once enlightened and have tasted the heavenly gift and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit and have tasted the good
Word of God and the powers of the age to come if they fall away to renew them again to repentance
since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God and put him to open shame and then verse 7 for the earth which drinks in
The rain that often comes upon it and bears herbs useful for those whom it is cultivated receives blessing from God
But if it bears thorns and breers, it is rejected and near to being cursed whose end is to be burned
So I want you to notice first of all
The people the writer of Hebrews is talking about the writer of Hebrews describes the people who he says have fallen away
Four things he uses to describe them. He says they were once enlightened. They tasted the heavenly gift
They were partakers of the Holy Spirit and they tasted of the Word of God
Does this sound like he's talking about unbelievers falling away or losing their salvation?
Again, you can't be partakers of the Holy Spirit if you're not born again
So he's not talking about unbelievers here
He's talking about those who genuinely were believers and they fell away because he says they were partakers of the Holy Spirit
Non-believers cannot be partakers of the Holy Spirit people that weren't saved can't be partakers of the Holy Spirit
Only those who were truly following Christ can be and it says they were enlightened and how could you be enlightened without truly following Jesus?
I believe this verse makes it incredibly clear people that were once partakers were born again
Experience the Holy Spirit experience the truth experience the Word of God. They were once saved
They've now fallen away and they've lost their place in God's kingdom
the message of this verse
the message of this verse is it is impossible if you fall away to
To bring someone back to repentance by falling away
This is a choice somebody makes to turn from God and follow their own desires
You don't accidentally fall away falling away is not something that the devil makes you do
This is a choice of free will to turn from God and to turn towards your sin now
We don't know the line that God draws from if you cross it there. It's impossible to come back to them
So if you're watching don't be all freaked out saying that's me. I'll never be able to serve God
It's impossible because we don't know where that line is
That the writer of Hebrews describes as going past the point of no return and the writer of Hebrews uses the word
Impossible didn't say like maybe and it's hard. They say it's impossible
There is a line clearly here and the writer of Hebrews is describing where you're past the point of no return
And once you cross this line, it's impossible to go back
So to me guys if you're listening to this again, I want you to join us and think about this for sure
Yeah, this is I was waiting for you
So here's the thing is that you know, it always cracks me up that people who believe you can lose your salvation
They love going to these particular passages to try to prove their point
But they always exclude some of the most clearest passages of Scripture when it comes to salvation that you only have to believe and
That you have eternal life. I mean scores of verses in the book of John scores of verses in the book of Romans
they always go to these obscure passages because of the fact that they can twist it to me to mean whatever they want and
It's interesting that he he says in this particular part of the video
We don't know where God draws the line, you know
But obviously he doesn't think he's ever crossed that line because he thinks he saved right? Yeah according to him
It's just like well if you cross some sort of line out there where you're away from God
Well, how do you know that you're not a way from God?
I mean, what's the standard the standard according to the Bible for eternal life is perfection and
There's nothing good. There's nothing to do with righteous. There's been righteous
No, not one for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God if we say we have no sin
We make him a liar and the truth is not in us right claiming
You know by his own admission that essentially he hasn't crossed the line because he doesn't sin
But let's explain what Hebrew chapter 6 is talking about here because in the very beginning of the chapter it talks about
The the principles of the doctrines of Christ the foundation of principles of the doctrines of Christ it talks about
Repentance from dead works and faith toward God
So in other words in order for someone to be saved
They have to no longer trust in their dead works to get them to heaven, which is virtually what everyone does
You know, they believe that they have to do works in order to go to heaven be a good person keep God's commandments
Well, the Bible says we have to repent of those dead works trusting in those dead works and place our faith in God
of course more specifically Jesus Christ and
He goes on in verse number four to say for it is impossible for those who are once enlightened
He says they tasted of the heavenly gift were made partakers of the Holy Ghost
They tasted of the good Word of God and the powers of the world to come now
Not a single part of those of those two verses doesn't mention salvation
Cuz he's like all behind a shadow of a doubt. This is salvation
It's referring to someone who got saved and he's like an unsaved person cannot be a partaker of the Holy Ghost
Well, you know that sound that may sound correct
But it's not because Jesus even talked about how the Holy Spirit is gonna reprove the world of sin
So the Holy Spirit is constantly working in this world
reproving the sin and
Drawing, you know unsafe people to the truth. He's constantly working on the other side
We go out and preach the gospel. We're constantly praying Lord work in the hearts of the individuals. We're gonna go speak to right
yeah, for example, if I was saying you were an unsaved person and I'm giving you the gospel and
Reading you some scripture. The Holy Spirit could be working right there exactly because
Jesus said in John chapter 6 the words that I speak unto you they are spirit and they are life
And so anytime we read the Bible to someone we're preaching the gospel to someone
They're having the Holy Spirit work in their hearts and for when the Bible says that there were once enlightened. This doesn't mean salvation
Yeah, okay
To be enlightened it says here
To give someone greater knowledge and understanding about a subject
Yes, someone's spiritual knowledge or insight
To shed light when we go to someone and yeah exactly when we shed light on the gospel
We shed light in regards to the truth. We enlighten someone to the message of salvation and
You know everyone has a free will to to accept or reject that message and so just because they're once enlightened doesn't mean that
They were that they were saved. It doesn't mean that they understood it understood and actually
received the gospel
Willingly, it just means that they were given the truth
They were increased in knowledge in that regard and it says that they tasted of the heavenly gift
There were made partakers of the Holy Ghost. They tasted a good word of God and
So, you know, this is people who these are individuals who have had the message of the gospel come to them
This is referring to someone who's been on the brink of salvation
Right and what this passage is specifically teaching is that there's individuals in this world who can no longer be saved
Mm-hmm, and this is what the Bible refers to as reprobates
Okay
and a reprobate in its simplest term a simple definition of a reprobate someone who's beyond the hope of salvation and
They weren't born that way. They don't
You know that in adolescence that'll become like this. This is someone who essentially
Rejected the gospel in such a way that they become out of a cereal towards God. They hate the Lord
they hate the Word of God and
The Bible says that they are essentially reserved into darkness
This is a person who can no longer be saved and people may think, you know, hey, that sounds kind of crazy
But you know Jesus talked about the fact that there's certain individuals in this world who have no forgiveness in this world
Nor in the world to come that's that's referring to the fact that they can no longer be saved
They miss their chance to be saved right is now they hate the Lord. They've been given over to a reprobate night
And so this passage is not teaching that you can lose your salvation. No, we're in this passage
Does it say that they lost it?
No, where does it say that they even got saved to begin with it says that they're enlightened
It says that they're on the brink of it
so it's not a strong passage to use to try to prove you can lose your salvation because
Nothing about it even talks about salvation. Yeah, it's crazy. We're already at 17 minutes
Keep it going. Yeah. All right
I want to challenge you
How could you believe once they've always saved when the writer of Hebrews says it's impossible
Once you've fallen away to come back and makes it clear. You can fall away second verse
I want to give you Hebrews 10 26 through 31
for if we sin willfully
After we have received the knowledge of the truth there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins
But a certain fearful expectation of judgment and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries
Anyone who has rejected Moses's law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses of how much worse punishment
Do you suppose will he be the though?
Worthy who has trampled the Son of God
Underfoot counted the blood of the Covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing and insulted the spirit of grace
So it's saying like this is a greater covenant and how much worse is it gonna be for him that tramples us?
And then it says for we know him who said vengeance is mine
I will repay says the Lord and again the Lord will judges people it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of a
living God
Notice he says if we sin willfully after having received the knowledge of the truth now
I don't think he's talking about unbelievers receiving the knowledge of the truth. This is not late
So this is an easy passage to even cover a lot of people get confused about this and they think well
What's going on here? Because it says if we sin willfully there remains no more sacrifice for sins
But this guy obviously doesn't have a pretty clear understanding of Old Testament practices
because he's he's addressing Hebrews who are well versed in the Old Testament Levitical law and
Obviously in the Old Testament
Sacrifices were done
morning and night to atone for daily sins, right and
you know if they committed some sort of
Sin throughout the day they were able to atone for that sin by bringing bringing a lamb a bullock an animal of some sort to
Sacrifice to atone for that specific sin. Well, obviously in the New Testament also known as the New Covenant
Those things are done away with Jesus Christ has already sacrificed himself once and for all that's what the book of Hebrews says
And so if you commit a sin after you have knowledge of the truth
Then you can't just go
To the tabernacle to Aaron the priest and atone for your sin by offering a bullet
That's what I'm saying. There remain that no more sacrifice for sins
Because of the fact that the practice of sacrificing animals no longer exists and then it says in verse number 28
He that despised Moses law
died without mercy
Here's the key under two or three witnesses now, what is this referring to this is referring to
capital punishment
Right for a capital crime because any time you see someone die under two or three witnesses
They were typically stoned to death they were killed
because they committed a capital offense that was worthy of death if they were sodomites if they were if they were guilty of
Adultery if they were guilty of kidnapping
Things of that regard
According to the Bible they were to be stoned under the two or three witnesses. So what's the context here?
It's referring to someone who's committed an offense and they physically die for their sin
They physically die for their crime. Okay, then he says in verse 29 how much sore punishment suppose
He shall you be thought worthy who have trodden under the foot the Son of God
Counted the blood of the Covenant wherewith he was sanctified in unholy things
So this is what this verse is teaching
People in the New Testament have more knowledge
Than people in the old we have more knowledge of the Bible and of God's standard
Then people in the Old Testament did because we actually have a canonized Bible given to us
We know what God requires of us
We have both old and New Testament and the Bible teaches us that to whomsoever much is given of him shall be much required
So if a person who committed a capital crime in the Old Testament was worthy to die under two or three witnesses
How much more do you think God will punish you if you commit these crimes now that you have the entire word of God?
That's what it's saying because the context is that you're physically gonna die
It's not saying you're gonna go to hell because there's no mention of hell here. Okay, and here's the great thing about Hebrews chapter 10, okay?
Number one is the fact that he says that the Lord shall judge who his people
Yeah, so does he send his people to hell? No, because they're God's people. There's no such thing as God's people in hell
Okay, that's number one. Number two. The end of the chapter says this verse 38
Now the just shall live by faith
But if any man draw back
What does he mean to draw back? Well what this guy's saying right here you fall away
My soul shall have no pleasure in him
So when you backslide you do you commit sin you're involved in things that are not pleasing unto the Lord that doesn't please God
Right and it says in verse 39, but we are not of them who draw back into perdition
But believe to the saving of the soul
So even when we backslide you will never backslide so much that you'll just slide right into hell because that doesn't exist
Why because we believe to the saving of the soul?
Why do we believe to the saving of the soul because the Bible teaches us in whom you also trusted
after that
You heard the word of truth the gospel of your salvation in whom also after you believe you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise
Which is the earnest of our inheritance and according to the Bible once we get saved the Holy Spirit of God is sealed within us
Ephesians chapter 4 unto the day of redemption. It doesn't say unto you sin again and you lose it
It doesn't say unto when you willfully sin and you get away from God he says he's sealed
Unto the day of redemption referring to the resurrection the rapture
Right. There you go. Now. Yeah when I what I was thinking when I was reading that that verse was that you know
If you just continue to willfully sin, you're just gonna get punished for it
Like that's exactly what I mean
That's just like God's gonna you know punish
I mean like just like you would punish your children or I punish my to my daughter
You know, like God's gonna punish his children. He's not gonna just throw him into hell. Hey, you're not my kid anymore
Yeah, exactly. I mean two chapters later. He explains the concept of chastening
Yeah, I mean so if God is punishing these people for their sin, right? Yeah, because they've committed a sin
Then that would mean that the Lord loves these people exactly as the Bible says
Whom the Lord lovin it or excuse me whom the Lord loveth he chasin it
Yeah, and scourge it every son whom ye receive it
So in fact when you are punished by God, it's confirm. It's not only confirmation that you're saved
It's confirmation that God loves you, right? Because it says if you be without chastisement
Then are you bastards and no son?
So according to this guy if you are punished by God
That's a confirmation that you're not saying which means it's a confirmation that you're not a son of God
You're not a Christian not according to the Bible
Yeah
Bible teaches that if you're without chastisement if God doesn't punish you even though you're involved in all types of sin
It just goes to show that you're essentially not a child of God
You're not a son of God because the Lord chases his own children and as it says in verse number 30
You know, I will recompense ate the Lord and again the Lord shall judge his people, right?
You know God who's our Heavenly Father does chasing us
He does scourge us when we commit sin, and that's a confirmation that we're saved
Yeah, for sure, let me let me get back into it here
Thing would you use for an unbeliever here is the result of willfully sinning after being enlightened
Here's the result if you willfully sin once you're enlightened the result is there remains no sacrifice for sins
But a certain fearful expectation of judgment, it's so plain the verse explains itself
Yeah, you should expect to be judged by God. Yeah
on this earth
Check this out. Let me read it. Let me read this verse to you. Okay. Okay, Romans chapter 8 in verse number 14
Says for as many as are led by the Spirit of God
They are the sons of God and so this is a verse that guys like this would use to say you see
You know if your spirit filled and your spirit led that means your son that means you're a son of God, right and
So the implication here is that if you're not being led of the Spirit and you're living a sinful life
Then you're not a son of God. That's what they would imply
Right, but the Bible saying here for as many as are led by the Spirit. They are the sons of God
so if
Someone is not being led of the Spirit and they're involved in sin. What is God gonna do to them? He's gonna punish them and
If he punishes them according to Hebrews chapter 12, it means that they're sons of God, right?
So you're a son of God if you're led of the Spirit to do the work of the Lord
And if you don't do the work of the Lord, you're not being filled with the Spirit
When God punishes you it's an indication that you're a son of God
There you go, exactly
It's like these people never heard of that before. Okay, let me go back
I don't think he has he's never willfully sinned ever
Ever in here in the New King James Version if you continue on that pattern of sin
Once you're enlightened or you've received the truth or the knowledge of the truth. There's no more there's no more blood there
There's no more sacrifice for your sins, but instead
fearful expectation of judgment
Let that sink in this is not the gospel you hear in America
The gospel you hear is do whatever you want and God will keep forgiving you, you know
Once saved always saved you can't lose it. Just live how you want and
There's plenty of sacrifice left
The writer of Hebrew says do whatever you want and then who's saying to live how you want who says that?
I can't hear you. You're mic muted
When have I ever said live however you want there's plenty of sacrifices available
Just go buy yourself a bullet go buy yourself a lamb go buy yourself a go there's plenty of sacrifices to go around
I mean, this is a complete
ridiculous accusation
Only America we hear this
I've never taught that you can live however you want
And in fact, what I've taught is if you go out and sin, of course, you're not gonna lose your salvation
But God will punish you here on this earth. That's the message of the Bible
And so I don't know what this guy's talking about. And by the way, let me say this is that
You know the Bible says if we sin willfully
Just to let you know
everyone
Uses their will to sin. I mean if you sin you've willed yourself to commit that iniquity that transgression everyone does
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why I don't know how he's interpreting that verse, but that's what everyone does
Well according to him Jesus only died for accidental sins, okay
There will be no forgiveness only fiery judgment so we have to wrestle with these scriptures
We can't just preach this watered-down American gospel that says do whatever you want
God will keep forgiving you once they've to always save we have to be careful and take these verses and realize there is wrath and
There's judgment in the Bible
Verse the third verse only give you why I'm not once they've always saved and I do believe you can lose your salvation is revelation
chapter 3 verse 5
He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments and I will not blot his name from the book of life
But I will confess his name before my father and before his angels the book of life being a record of all those who have
been born
Who is he that overcoming he that he is on Jesus exactly
first John chapter 5 verse 4 says for whatsoever is born of God overcome at the world and
This is the victory that overcome at the world even our works
No, even our faith it says who is he that overcome at the world?
But he that believe it that Jesus is the Son of God
So people can't just take words from the Bible and just impose their own definition upon it, which is exactly what this guy's doing
He's implying that when the Bible says to overcome it means you have you have to overcome your sin
Well, no to be an overcomer is to believe on Jesus Christ who is essentially the only person who has ever overcome
Sin in this world because he lived a perfect life. And in fact the Bible specifically says in John chapter 16, you know
Jesus said of himself that he overcame the world
Romans chapter 8 says that we are more than conquerors through him that loved us
So the way we overcome the way we're conquerors is by believing on Jesus Christ
So let's address this whole thing that he's saying here about being blotted out of the book of life. Okay?
Because a lot of people get confused about this as well. I was gonna say
Just I was gonna make sure okay, so to my knowledge
Everybody starts in the book of life, correct? Correct everyone's
Your blood it out
Yeah, exactly
There's a couple things that could get you blotted out. So everyone's name begins in the book of life. The the Bible never
talks about a person's name being written in the book of life as soon as they believe on Jesus Christ or as soon as they
trust Jesus it never
Indicates that because of the fact that everyone already starts off in the book of life and people wonder well, why is that?
Why do people start off in the book of life?
Well, the reason why is because God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance
So he has our names in the book of life in hopes that we would you know
Call upon the name of the Lord and be saved but the Bible does teach that names are blotted out now
When are they blotted out?
Well according to the Bible you can get your name blotted out by adding to or removing from God's Word according to Revelation chapter 22
You can get blotted out
According to the book of Revelation by taking the mark of the beast because at that point you're worshipping Satan
You can get blotted out by blaspheming the Holy Ghost because you won't have forgiveness in this life nor in the world to come or
You can get blotted out the day that you die and you don't extend you haven't accepted Christ as your Savior
That's how you're blotted out
This is why this verse in Rome in Revelation 3 verse 5 says to him that overcometh, right?
It says the same shall be called in white raiment
Signifying that the the righteousness that is imputed upon us and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life
It will permanently be embedded in the Lamb's book of life because we've believed on Jesus Christ. It's not based upon our works
So that was easy
Yeah, the moment the moment I saw that in the video. I was like, okay, so
What do you have to do to overcome and in my mind before I even looked it up?
I was like, oh believe on Jesus. Oh, well, you know believe on Jesus
I mean, he should know what that means cuz his name's not there
His name probably got blotted out a while ago when he started teaching a false gospel
Okay
Again, we've picked up their cross who bought their faith and hope in Jesus my bad. I wasn't playing it
Well, I didn't have you on the screen
Okay, let's go here
And follow him
Morning before my father and before his angels the book of life being a record of all those who have been born again
Who have picked up their cross who put their faith in hope in Jesus and follow?
Jesus says if you yeah, I noticed I know you're gonna say
The book of life is filled with people
Who take up their Christ and are serving him and are doing all these things. When does it ever say anything like that?
And and he doesn't even realize that everybody's name starts in the book of life, yeah
Otherwise everyone's I mean it just I mean that's just ridiculous. It says faith and hope in Jesus and follow him
So that's a discipleship. That's a
That's a whole different that's after salvation. Yeah, he's imposing all these definitions to that word. Yeah, let me get let me
Finish what he's saying here overcome. I won't blot your name out
So it's possible to have your name blotted out and if your name could not be blotted out or this didn't exist
Then why would Jesus make this specific statement or argument in the first place?
It doesn't make sense
If it's impossible to have your name blotted out of the book of life for Jesus to say I'm not gonna blot your name out
So, okay. So if you're not gonna blot my name out, is there people you are gonna blot their names out? Is it possible?
For you so for him to introduce this concept this idea this principle
It would only make sense that it's possible to have your name blotted out fourth verse. I want to give you
2nd Peter 2 20 for if
After they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
They are again entangled in them and overcome the latter end is worse for them than the beginning
verse 21 for it would have been better for them to not know the way of righteousness than to know it and to
Turn from the Holy Commandment delivered to them
but it has happened to them according to the true proverb a dog returns to his own vomit a so having
And a so having washed to her wallowing in the mire
So basically what Peter is saying is you've escaped the pollutions of the world
Through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. So that sounds like a Christian to me. He describes the people
He says they've escaped through the knowledge of Jesus Christ. So they are a Christian their follower. They've escaped the world
They're now following Jesus. Go ahead. Pause me says this
So the irony of this part right here is astounding okay, and I'm explaining why 2nd Peter chapter 2 is
Your your quintessential chapter on false prophets. I mean, it's the entire chapter
Parallel with the book of Jude is about false prophets
So it gives you all the characteristics and attributes of a false prophet the fact that they're covetous or I have eyes filled
Full of adultery that cannot cease from sin to despise governments and magistrates and it gives all these examples
but it's your quintessential chapter for false prophets and
Right before the verse that he read it says two verses prior to that
Referring to false prophets. It says for when they speak greatly great swelling words of vanity
They are Lord through the lusts of the flesh through much wanton as those that were clean escape from them who live in error
While they promised them liberty who's they the false prophets
Promising the recipients of their message Liberty
They themselves are the servants of corruption for of whom a man has overcome of the same is he brought in bondage
So this is obviously in context referring to a false prophet who is misleading others by his pernicious ways. He's teaching a false gospel
He's teaching false doctrine and he's leading people astray with his message
And then it goes on to say in verse 20 for after they have
Escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. They are in getting tangled therein and
Overcome the latter end is worse with them than the beginning
So again, it's referring to the fact that this person this false prophet was polluted
After he received the knowledge of Jesus Christ, which Hebrews 6 has told us that they basically were partakers of the Holy Ghost
They were once enlightened but then they became polluted thereafter because they actually rejected
Jesus Christ and people might say well you're imposing that where does it say that?
Where does it say that these people rejected Jesus Christ before doing this? That's a great question
Look at verse number one, but there are false prophets also among the brethren
Excuse me, false prophets among the people even as there shall be false teachers among you
Who privately shall bring in damnable heresies?
Even denying the Lord God that bought them and
Bring upon themselves with destruction. So the very first verse of second Peter chapter 2
Tells us that the way these false prophets even came to be as corrupted as they are is that they denied
The Lord Jesus Christ that bought them
Okay, because you said what does it say that about them because the blood of Jesus Christ has purchased everyone in this world
He's the Savior of all men, but especially of those that believe
You know, but that obviously that redemption is available to those only who actually believe on Jesus Christ
So second Peter 2 is referring to Isaiah referring to this guy who's promising people Liberty
He's preaching this message, but he's been polluted and it would have been better for him not to know the way of righteousness
Right then after they had he was you know, he knew it to turn from the Holy Commandment delivered unto him
So someone gave this guy the gospel a long time ago. They gave him the right gospel. They gave him the message of salvation and
He rejected it and that's why he fits the bill in second Peter chapter 2
Alright, yeah and notice none of these verses ever talk about like they never say like and they lost their
Salvation they lost eternal life. There's there's never anything that actually says that but all never an indicator that every single verse
It says that you know
You have eternal life is clear as day and you're cut and or or you're sealed into the day of redemption
What does that mean? You are set in sealed, of course
That's what I'm saying. Is that they always have to use these obscure scriptures to teach that you can lose your salvation
Even though it never explicitly says that whereas the Bible is very explicit that you have salvation, right?
You know, God clearly tells you you're saved you're sealed up to the day of redemption you have eternal life
You know you shall never die. I mean these very clear statements that say you can never lose it
Whereas the scriptures that they're using it's just like what I believe this verse is saying and I think this is saying and it's pretty
Clear that this is saying but it's not clear because it's not there right exactly
Let's get back into it. He's got one more here
They're worse off if they've gotten saved and they've returned to the pollutions of the world then if they'd never heard the gospel at all
Again, what is he saying? He's saying it's possible to be saved from the world escape the so if they actually got saved
That would be good, but they didn't actually get saved
He says it's possible to be saved from the from the world and escape the pollution
But it doesn't say that they got saved exactly go back to the world and then he uses the proverb
he says it's the true proverb a
dog returns to his vomit a dog throws up and then goes and eats its own vomit and and that's what he describes somebody who
Becomes a Christian and then goes back to the world
So again, how could we reconcile these verses and still believe it's impossible to lose your salvation
Once you get saved, you can never lose it last verse. I want to give you is
Galatians 5 4 says you've become
Estranged from Christ and who attempt to be justified by the law you have fallen from grace
So you who attempt to be let me say it again. You've become estranged from Christ you who attempt to be justified by law
You have fallen from grace
How could you fall from something you never had he says here you can fall from grace
So let me make a couple comments on this this is so funny and and false prophets do this all the time
where
They'll quote a verse
Literally contradicts everything that they're teaching. Okay, because he's quoting Galatians chapter 5 verse 4 where it says Christ has become of no effect unto you
Whosoever of you are justified by the law
They're trying to exactly the law. They're trying to follow the law that sucks about circumcision
So who are the people that are falling from grace people who are trusting in their works
So someone who trusts in their works, they think they have to obey the commandments and the law to be saved
They've fallen from grace
It doesn't mean they lost their salvation because they never had it to begin with because they're trusting in the law
Christ has become no effect unto him. So a person like Isaiah who's evidently trusting in his works to be saved
He's fallen from grace
Christ has become no effect unto him because of the fact that he's making the gift of God null and void
By his mere belief that he has to obey the commandments and do good works in order to stay saved
So this completely contradicts what he's saying, you know
How can you fall from grace if you've never had it to begin with that's not what it's saying when it says you fell from grace
It's referring to the fact that you were a partaker of the Holy Ghost
The message of the gospel is given unto you you've tasted a good word of God
But you're trusting in your works to be saved, I mean that's literally what the verse is saying right there
Yeah, Galatians 2 21 says for I do not frustrate the grace of God if righteousness come by the law then Christ is dead in vain
Exactly. I mean you live in your good lifestyle. It has nothing to do with you getting saves
Well, we don't we don't have to go over the video that we're gonna go over later
But I mean we could just cover right now, you know
Matthew 7 is a perfect example of that because Matthew chapter 7
Which is a passage they love to bring up to teach that you can lose your salvation is an example of a person
Who who trusts in their works to be saved?
Because he says you know that he's prophesied in his name and his name
Has cast out devils and in his name has done many wonderful works and I were professing to them
I never knew you depart from me. Ye that work iniquity never in that passage
Does it say I've trusted you as my Savior. I believe them the Lord Jesus Christ. He lists his works
Try to justify himself and so he's fallen from grace. That's what that means
Again not speaking of the world. It's speaking of those that have experienced the grace and have fallen from it
So the argument to say and I know what the guys that preach once they've always say preach
They say if you truly were saved you never fall from grace
So you're once saved always saved right wrong wrong. That's the right way to say or well
Yeah, it's not the right way to say it because it's never been said
You know a person will we teach is that if a person believes in the gospel of Jesus Christ they trust in Jesus Christ
Then you know what? They're never gonna deviate from the belief that Jesus Christ is God
The salvation is by grace through faith. They'll deviate into
Committing sins and committing iniquity because there's not adjustment upon earth that do with good and sin it not
So I like for him to address that verse it literally says there's not adjustment upon earth that do with good
Which is what he claims you have to do in order to stay saved, but it says and sin is not
so how can you do good and still keep sinning and
You know have the same thing at the same time. I mean the Bible says that everyone does that. Yeah, you understand
So, there you go they say if you truly were saved you'd never fall from grace
So you're once saved always saved right? I don't think that's the right way to say or the right idea
The idea is if I genuinely be saved. These are the five verse I gave you. These are genuine believers
I'm genuinely saved born-again a partaker of the Holy Spirit tasted of the Word of God tasted of the age to come
These all five verses talk about falling away your name being blotted out
You're returning to the pollution going back to the vomit. So do these verses say you can lose your salvation. I believe absolutely
I don't know how we can take these any other way. I don't know how we could twist these to say
Oh, he's not talking about believers talking about the Jews or saying about the Gentiles or he's talking about some other group
It's not about us now
These are some of the objections to losing your salvation
Guys that absolutely don't believe what I preach what I'm saying tonight or what these verses say
They'll say things like John 10 28 and John 10 28 says and I give them eternal life
And this is Jesus speaking and they shall never perish neither shall anyone snatch them out of my hand
So they use this verse and say see right here. Jesus says no one can take us from his hand
No one can take our salvation and I agree. Nobody can take our salvation
This is Jesus saying no one can take your salvation. The devil can't take it
No man can take it but this is not saying you can't forfeit your salvation or turn from God so I
Don't think this is saying you can't lose your salvation
I think he's saying no one can just you serve me and you're worshipping me praising me living
Holy and then one day someone steals your salvation
He's saying
He literally just added a bunch of stuff to the verse and said if you're serving me if you're living
Holy if you're doing good, you know, then no one, you know kids able to snatch you out of my head
Where does it ever say that doesn't even say that in the Greek?
I mean, like where is he getting that stuff from he's imposing all that stuff into the verse
Works works. It's just like if you're doing good works
What the verse is really saying is if you do good works, you're living holy
You're not sinning the verse doesn't say that and where did in the Bible does it say you can forfeit salvation?
That phrase is never found in the Bible
It never talks about you forfeiting because to forfeit something is to essentially lose something because of wrongdoing
Right, but the Bible doesn't teach that wrongdoing will cause you to lose your salvation
You would think that in the entire book of John
Were salvation is explicitly taught that Jesus would have one verse where he says
Hey you have eternal life except for this portion right here
If you commit sin, if you do these wrong things you can forfeit it you can lose out on it
You can have it and then lose it, but it's never stated in the Bible
right
and let me just say this so
Let me let me let me point out a verse here in
Romans chapter 6 that people like this will often use and it's one of those things that it's like a verse that kind of
Just the bunks their theology
Romans 6 in verse 1 says what shall we say then shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?
God forbid right and it says how should we that are dead to sin live any longer there in and so they'll say you know
Shall we continue sin the grace may abound God forbid?
So the question is what is God forbidding for us to do is he forbidding for grace to abound or?
Is he forbidding for us to continue in sin now in the previous chapter chapter 5 and verse 20?
It says this moreover the law entered that the offense might abound but where sin abounded
Grace did much more abound
So according to the Bible not according to me
This is what the verse literally says and let me finish it off that has sinned at the rain and to death
Even so my grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord
So if you sin this much grace will always be ahead if singles of this much
Grace is always ahead because grace will always much more abound and sin now shall we continue in sin the grace may abound
God forbid but what is the first implying it's implying that grace will always abound
If you continue in sin, and in fact first John chapter 2 says, you know
My little children these things write on to you that you sin not
But if any man sin we have an advocate with the Father Jesus Christ the righteous and he is the propitiation for our sins
And not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. Obviously. God doesn't want us to sin. But if we do
Grace abounds he's a propitiation and you know, we can never lose it. So right exactly
eternal life
Alright, let's go back to it
Believe he's saying you could never go into the world
You could never backslide and this idea of once they've always saved is like so you're saying that I could never go in the world
And if I do I was never really a Christian
I mean look at these preachers that will preach 20 30 years serve God live right holy pray fast
God uses them and then they end up dying an alcoholic they go and cheat on their wife and they go and turn from God
So your doctrine says then they were never really saved before and I don't I think they've turned from God and they've fallen from grace
I don't think you can say they don't even think he
understands what grace means
Well, yeah, clearly he doesn't understand what grace means because he's rejected. He's fallen from grace remember
Yeah, so he does it. He's trusted in his word. So he has no clear
He thinks grace is merited and there's and there's so many instances in the Bible where you know, like Solomon
Remember how he ended so Solomon. He started like all those all those wives and coke you binds or whatever
Had false gods they worshiped idols and he was out doing stuff with them and then we got
Samson he you know, he
slept with the prostitute and they committed suicide and then
Yeah, let me in fact in regards to Solomon because you know again people like this will
Try to point to someone like Solomon and say well
We think he lost his salvation because of the fact that he started worshiping
He started making all these altars for his fault for his wives false gods and all these things and he ended his life wrong
He lost his salvation
but prior to
Solomon becoming king
God told David and prophesied of Solomon and he said in second Samuel chapter 7 verse 14
Yeah, I will be his father and he shall be my son if he commit iniquity. I
Will take away his salvation
It's not what it says
It says I will
Chasing him with the rod of men and with the stripes of the children of men
But listen to this but my mercy shall not depart away from him as I took it from Saul
so he's saying there if
Solomon sins I'm gonna chase in him just like he chases Christians in the New Testament if they sin
Right, and you know he says but my mercy shall not depart from him
Why because not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to his mercy saved us by the wash and regeneration
Renewing of the Holy Ghost and then you got King Saul as well committed suicide
Yeah, and he was saying apparently according to you know
These guys none of those guys are in heaven. They're all in hell
right
Samuel told Saul tomorrow thou and thy son shall be with me and Samuel was in heaven
But
It's like I don't know like how they can twist it so much. That's that's what I'm confused about
It's like how do you it's so clear
Well, this is how these false prophets
twist the scriptures, okay, because
You would think like how do you not just see this in the Bible? Yeah, it's so crystal clear
Why are you so confused about it?
And it could it could really frustrate you to see individuals just completely reject clear portions of Scripture
But the Bible actually teaches that there are individuals in this world
That have rejected the truth so much that essentially God gives them a strong delusion that they should believe a lie
It's like they love the lie so much God says, okay
I'm just gonna give you a strong delusion and you're just gonna believe the lie for the rest of your life
This is what the Bible says in 2nd Timothy chapter 3 when it says that they're ever learning and
Never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. So a lot of these guys like Isaiah
Sal D'var, whatever his name is they actually believe what they're saying
but it's because of the fact that they've just they're delusional and they have this strong delusion and God's given them that because they
Rejected the clear concise
Simple gospel the simplicity which is in Jesus Christ, which is you just have to believe on Jesus plus nothing minus nothing, right?
because remember at the end of the day
anybody who teaches what this guy teaches is
Essentially saying that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ is insufficient to save me. I need to do something also
Yeah blasphemous
100% for never truly believers in the first place. Are you the judge of salvation or is God so again?
I don't think this is true and the other objection would be and I know some of you are gonna type this in the comments
How could you lose a gift right if it's a gift of God?
How could you lose that the same way my kids lose the gifts?
I give them all the time half the things I got my kids for their birthdays. They don't have any more
They've lost it somewhere in the room somewhere in the house. So just because something is a gift
I don't know where we think it's impossible to lose it
And if that were the case
Why would Jesus say strive to enter through the narrow gate for many will seek to enter but not be able to
Why would Jesus say the road that leads to life is difficult. And if you find it, why would Paul say?
Oh, that's easy because he never said it
What's that? Which one did he never say?
He he never said that difficult is the way
Yeah, you know
Straight is the gate and narrows the way which leading them to life and few there be that find is referring to the fact
That there are a few people in this world that are gonna get saved doesn't say the difficult is the way
Salvation is easy according to the Bible
It's simple and in this whole this example of like oh I give my gift my kids gifts all the time and they lose it
Right, they lose it somewhere
It's such a stupid example because he's still validating the point that a gift is freely given not based upon the merit of the child
Yeah
He's claiming is that you have to do good works in order to have
Salvation right and his own example just proved the opposite which is the fact that his kids didn't do anything to merit the gift
but he gave it to them anyways and
Obviously, you know, you can't use that example because it's not referring to salvation right at the end of the day
The Bible says that you know the work that God has begun in us. He will perform until the day of Jesus Christ
Yeah
It's up to us to maintain our salvation. He's the one who's maintaining it
Bible says in first Peter chapter 1 in verse number 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation
Ready to be revealed in the last time it's God who keeps us not not
Right and I was also gonna say like that's like if I have say I have two kids
Oh, but this this one behaves more this this were behaves better. This one doesn't behave as well
Well, this one's my kid. This one's not because this one doesn't behave. That's basically that what he's saying
Like you gotta behave right or else you're not my kid. That's the stupidest thing
It's a silly example because he's saying his kids lost it as if like they committed cuz he's comparing it to like if you sin
Then you lose it. So are you saying your kids are like we're sinning and then they lost her gift or something
They're not his anymore, okay
I'm bling. Why would the Bible over and over say count the cost Jesus told the rich and ruler sell everything
There's a problem. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh
He's bringing up the rich young ruler when the rich young ruler was asking. What must I do to be perfect?
What good thing must I do? He doesn't acknowledge he's a sinner
And thinks he's perfect and then Jesus says
Sell your stuff to the poor and follow me because he doesn't acknowledge that he needs help
It needs to be saved and he says so all that thou hast and thou shalt have
He basically says he shall have riches in heaven is what he's saying. Let me talk about salvation when he answers him
Yeah, because the rich young ruler doesn't realize he's a sinner. He thinks he's perfect. Oh
I keep all my commandments I keep I keep all these commandments. That's what he's saying. Yep. Like how do you come on, man?
That's a simple passage
To pay so is salvation free? Yes, but it costs our life. Oh my gosh
It's salvation free yes
But it cost our life then it's not free. No, no, it's not for one and number two
It didn't cost our life. It cost Jesus's light
He's the one who gave his life for us that we might be made the righteousness of God in him
What in the world is this guy saying he literally?
In the same sentence said that salvation is free, but it cost something that something if something cost something then it's not free
Yeah
No, I just don't get it. He
One thing but it does cost your life. It's not great. It's great, but it does cost your life
Here that's like me selling you a car. Hey, it's free, but you gotta give me 20 grand. Yeah
It's like what then it's not free. Yeah. Yeah, and he said he's confusing salvation with discipleship
Like there cuz there's a passage about if you know if you if you want to keep your life you lose it
You know that one but okay, I'll play it
We have to Jesus said lay our light down if anyone hangs on to his life. He loses it
So there is a price to pay
Do I believe that if you get?
Genuinely saved and you're serving God and you decide to turn from God and serve the devil that you will lose your salvation
Yes, I do believe that and I believe the Bible teaches that and those are five reasons
Why five should I say five verses? Why do me a favor?
Subscribe Harris is why and let that's it. That's the whole video right there. But
Yeah
Easy peasy. Yeah, he makes the same arguments that everyone else makes and he takes the verses out of context
You know at the end of that video was very telling
I mean essentially summed up the entire his entire argument that he doesn't believe that salvation is a free gift
Even if you see I mean he said it he said salvation is free
But it cost something and then he says it costs our life anybody who sincerely reads the Bible knows that salvation does not require
It doesn't cost our life. It costs Jesus's life. I mean who would be foolish enough to deny such a thing?
So yeah, if that just means Christ died in vain then
Exactly. There's no reason because you got to work your way
He's saying you basically you don't have to do works to get saved
But if you don't have the works you're not saved or is it already saying you don't have if you don't do works to get
Saved you just have to do the labor to get saved
You say the exact same thing
Exactly, man. It just there's so many so many of these people and then because I know he illusion he preaches at these charismatic churches
So there you go big surprise
You have anything else to add to it
No, just you know for the viewer remember that you know, Jesus Christ paid it all and
He he essentially his sacrifice is sufficient to save you. All you have to do is place your faith in him
I mean, who are you gonna believe you're gonna believe this guy or are you gonna believe the Bible?
Jesus said, you know the Bible says in John 3 36 he that believeth on the Sun hath everlasting life
He that believeth not the Sun shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him
So it's very clearly stated that all you have to do is believe and
The reason why is because of the fact that the gift has already been paid for
You don't have to pay for it. The gift has been paid for by the blood of Jesus Christ
He was delivered for our offenses and raised again for our justification
Nowhere in the Bible does it teach that we have to maintain our salvation because we can't
Exactly. We'd all go to hell. We'd all be damned exactly
But the whole thing with one saved only saved and you know, you know that you're sealed for eternity
You've been given this eternal life. You don't have the worry of oh my gosh, I'm gonna lose my salvation
You're constantly worrying. You're cool. Yeah, I
Guarantee you
The majority of his viewers they're watching his videos and they're wondering man. I wonder if I'm saved exactly
I don't know if I'm saved but the Bible says and you know in 1st John chapter 5
These things have a written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God that ye may know
The ye have eternal life
You may believe on the name of the Son of God
so God wants us to know be on a shadow of a doubt with certainty that we're saved and
only thing that is sure is
You know, obviously the Word of God is sure but when it comes to like our salvation, we know that it's sure
It's like an anchor of the soul sure and steadfast because we've trusted Christ
Right if she was based upon us, of course, we would doubt because now, you know, sometimes we we fall short
We make mistakes we sin and so it's hard to determine
You know if you're saved or not, but obviously when you look at God's Word, you're like
Oh, I'm not saved because I sin every single day, right?
So that's why it's necessary for us to trust Christ exclusively for salvation plus nothing minus nothing
Okay. So hey, man, I really appreciate you doing this and working everybody find you
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