Hey, can I uh, can I have a Catholic prayer red
What's the thing you said
About about the the thing you said about the Amish the Amish joke. I don't remember what about this?
Isn't some get-together with your Amish buddies or something. I don't even remember
Yeah, well, let me give you the kind of the behind the scenes on that clip, okay
This is when you this is when he kicked the guy out of the church for asking to have a prayer red
Just for those of you who don't know hey sit down sit down
What do you what are you coming up here to do? You want it? You want to come take over the service, huh?
What do you want? What?
Get out of here
No, you can't no get out of here get him out of here drag this bozo out
Pull him out. Hey help him out get him out
And you know what anybody wants to come up here and take over the service
We'll throw you out of here buddy. This church is not a free-for-all. This isn't an open mic. This isn't a karaoke bar
Okay, I'm the man of God here. I meet the qualifications
I run this church and if you don't like it then get out
This is not some church where every first-time visitor and brand-new believer and people have never even read the Bible are gonna come up and
Take over the service not happening
Okay, if you want that kind of watered-down leadership go to some house church with your Amish buddies and sit around the coffee table with
Your coffee klatch. This is a New Testament Church. We have a bishop here
We have an overseer here like it or lump it and if you don't like it
Feel free to get up and leave the service at any time for 50% of people walk out
I don't care because you know what? I'm not gonna pastor a one this cult
I'm not gonna pastor a Pentecostal church
I'm the pastor of a Baptist Church and if you're not a Baptist then get out
So everybody always says the guy just asked for prayer
But he was asking to read a prayer and he had a piece of paper in his hand and he unfolded it had
Some weird, you know prayer that was not right
And by the way, the guy later said in the parking lot that he was Michael the Archangel and the guy was crazy
Okay, but here's the funny part about brother Segura
So brother Segura comes in with like gloves and sunglasses and he's looking really scary
But the reason he was wearing those sunglasses is just coincidentally the day before he got something in his eye
And so he damaged his eye like he was he was drilling a hole at work and he got like a shaving in
His eye so then his eye was all red and swollen
So he's wearing the glasses to cover that up, but it made him look so much more intense
He's like you're disrupting the service right now. He comes in. It's like gloves
Secret service. Yeah, you look like a Secret Service. It was awesome, but it made the clip like that much more epic
Yeah, like with him in that get up, you know
He kind of looks that way. Anyway, cuz he always wears like a vest
He always looks like he's wearing like a bulletproof vest. He's not but he's just there was there was actually a guy
I saw he he has like at least one video on you every week and he just put out another video on that
Which is funny it's funny how something can happen like so many years ago because that was like
2016 that was like seven years ago and people are constantly pulling it out. Like it's new or something. It's hilarious
So are you a hate monger or a religious zealot?
Well, I'm a religious zealot but you know, it's so funny because every single person in this world
There are things that they love and things that they hate people that they love people that they hate
It's just I'm admitting it
Those people out there that are screaming. Oh no hate or whatever, you know, they hate us
They hate the Lord. They hate the Bible. They hate Christ
It's so stupid
Like this thing of well this guy's hateful and this guy isn't every single human being on this planet
Has a whole range of emotions
love hate fear anger
Sadness happiness like we all go through a whole spectrum of feelings and we all have things that we love and hate
Let's just look up look up hate in the dictionary. What does hate mean in the dictionary?
You know, it says that it's a strong aversion to something
That's one of the definitions like oh, I hate mustard or something
You know
It's have a strong aversion to something or strong hostility towards something like are these people really saying that they don't have
Aversion to anyone or hostility toward anyone because they feel pretty hostile to me
It's just stupid like it's so dumb this thing of saying like
Hate is bad. But of course the God hates and you know, everybody hates if they're honest
What is but I have a lot more love than hate. I
Noticed you know
Now what is your proof for the Bible being true?
The proof for the Bible being true is the Bible itself
Because if something outside of the Bible proved that the Bible were true
Then basically that other thing would be the final authority
So if the history proved that the Bible is true
That would mean that well history is the final authority and it has to like sanction the Bible or science is the final authority
It has to sanction the Bible. No, the Bible is the final authority. So the Bible is
Self-authenticating the Bible authenticates itself. I can just feel your energy right now. Oh
No, I like the thing you said in this one sermon. You're like circular reasoning
Yeah, when you when you do that, I just can't stop laughing
Yeah, because because
Obviously people are gonna say that that's circular reasoning if I say well, I believe the Bible cuz the Bible
But here's the thing. Every single person has some kind of a basal assumption or a foundational
Truth and for me that's the Word of God and without faith. It's impossible to please him
So, you know, you have to believe that he exists and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him
If there were evidence
That were just some concrete evidence then there'd be no faith required. Yeah, I said that actually some guy said that's blasphemous
Christian said that was supposed I don't know if he's saved or not
But what is the Bible the Bible says faith is the substance of things hoped for?
Faith is the evidence of things not seen
So where's the evidence faith is the evidence the Word of God is self-authenticating, you know
It's like they said in the Bible never man spake like this man. That's what I said about Jesus, right? The Word of God is
Unlike any other book. No human could write the Bible. The Bible is divine and
It'd be like if I had a diamond and a cubic zirconium
You know a jeweler can tell the diamond, you know
Or if you want to something that a layman can tell apart
How about a tree that God made and a cell phone tower that's made to look like a tree
you can tell the difference between what God made and what a human made and the Bible is made by God and
People have tried to imitate it. Look how many people have tried to come out with their own scripture the Book of Mormon the Quran
Apocryphal books and they all suck. They're all trash like they like even just as literature. They suck
They're not even good books. Like why can no one come out with an imitation Bible that's even close
You know these other gospels or whatever these fake gospel of Thomas
They're they're not even close to the quality of Matthew Mark Luke and John. There's nothing close
There's nothing even close because only God can write the Bible
Amen to that. I couldn't agree more. Um now, you know with this
Pentecostal the Pentecostal movement. I mean, what are your thoughts on it?
I mean they're telling people like if you're not speaking in tongues
you're not saved and all this stuff and that's the evidence of you know salvation and they'll
They'll tell people that if they're not speaking in tongues, they don't have the Holy Ghost. I mean, what is what's with that?
I mean first of all
Tongues is just another word for languages right if I talk about my mother tongue
I'm just talking about the language that I was born and raised to speak and so
what they're doing this gibberish and
Stupid stuff isn't even what the Bible is even talking about when the Bible talks about speaking in another tongue
It's just talking about speaking a foreign language
Spanish German Greek Hebrew, that's what's talking about and and as far as saying that like
oh you have to speak in tongues to be sick, they're not saved because they don't believe the gospel because
Pentecostals will all tell you that you can lose your salvation if you don't live right because they're all
Trusting in works for salvation they won't admit that
But if they're gonna say that you can lose your salvation by sinning that proves that they're trusting it works to save them
They're trusting in keeping the commandments. Yeah, and I see this one guy is they a salivar that you did a sermon on him and
Yeah, and you know, it's so funny that
He said, you know, you got to live this way and all this stuff if you want to be saved and make it
But then he also believes if somebody at the last seconds on their deathbed
Believes on Christ they can be saved. Yeah, doesn't that contradict itself? Isn't that respecting of persons?
It doesn't really make sense because then it would be like everybody could just do it at the last second and then you know
But but according to him if you do it early, you got to do works
Like it's either a free gift or it isn't you know, if it works for the thief on the cross at the last minute
Well, maybe it's just by grace through faith and not of works the same answer both
But here's what's funny about that salad bar guy. Is that basically he that's just a nickname that I like to give him
but anyway is that
He tells his testimony is so hilarious because he talks about how the day after he got
Radically saved all of a sudden he started
manifesting being demon possessed and he'd never he'd never done that before so it's like
Hmm. I wonder if there's something wrong with your church if you go to your church and you get radically saved now
The sudden you're demon possessed and you've never been before maybe your church is freaking demonic and you got the demons from them
Well, you missed the part actually when he talks about what happened when he got saved. He said he was in the church
Sitting in the back making jokes about the pastor and some chick in there and then he went up there
He said f you God this and that you're not real then God spoke to him in an audible voice and said
You're gonna give me a hundred percent
Not ninety nine point nine percent and then like he believed God and all this stuff like an audible voice
Like like Apostle Paul, I did miss that part and you know, that's a different video
It sounds like it sounds like if I'm ever just super bored and doom scrolling
then I should probably just head over to salad bar for some comedy gold because the guy is just
The guy's a clown man, and this will be the last time I ever set foot in church
And this would be the last chance I ever gave God if there was one so I walk in I'm sitting there
I was making sexual jokes about the worship leader not knowing it was a pastor's wife at the time, but I'm just out there
I'm just dark and twisted shame all that
So he calls he said if you want to find out God's will you want to counter the whole thing come forward?
Felt something grabbed me and start pulling on my shirt like in a physical way
I go to the altar and in my mind, I'm like, what am I doing? Why am I even going up here?
This is stupid. I said God I don't F and believe in you. But if you are real I'll give everything up. I
Felt like I was no longer at that church
I was seeing a bright light and I heard an audible voice say Isaiah. I don't want ninety nine point nine percent
and so then I go from bright light seeing a vision of me preaching to thousands of people I
Come back to my body
I was born again and I'm more passionate about Jesus now than I've ever been in my life and that encounter dude
Just ratty. Well, he has it clowns are good at making you laugh, you know
He has a DVD actually that tells you how you can cast out demons. I think it's like $20
Well, you know, I especially like where he teaches you how to cast demons out of yourself
He had a whole video on that. That was it's like wow
Well speaking of car is that in the Bible like where in the Bible do you see like men of God like?
Exercising demons out of themselves like that's just like but he has to explain why he's demon possessed
Because we would expect a preacher of the gospel not to be freaking demon possessed
You can't even make this stuff up speak speaking of comedy, okay
Have you ever thought about being a comedian like at any time in your life?
You know, what's funny is that I kid you not when I was a child
There was a long period where I wanted to be as like a stand-up comedian when I grew up
Actually for many years as a kid
I wanted to and you know, it's kind of funny because now I'm a pastor and obviously what I'm preaching about super serious
But sometimes in my sermons I do joke around it's funny when I first started the church
I didn't joke around at all in my sermons. I was really serious, but then I started realizing like, okay
You know, I could use a little bit of humor in my sermons, but honestly when I'm preaching
The amount of jokes that I tell or that like the amount of humor that I use in my sermons
Is less than half of what comes into my mind
I have to censor myself because I don't want to be a stand-up comedian, you know
I want to be a serious preacher of the Word of God
but sometimes things are so funny, like I can't I can't help myself and sometimes I
Really have to censor myself because I think of I think of funny stuff while I'm preaching
But I mean there's I think that God has a sense of humor because there's some really funny stuff in the Bible
And you know what I was gonna say actually the reason I found out about you was through one of my friends
He showed me that clip where you're like, I'm gay
I want all my kids to be gay and stuff and I saw that video and I thought was the funniest thing
I was like, is this a real church?
Cuz I've because all the churches I see are like, you know
The pastors were like they're super feminine and they're like it's like a TED talk
And then I was like I got to look this guy up and then I think it was a few months later
I actually ended up looking you up and started watching all your documentaries and stuff and I was like, yeah
This this is this is awesome because you know, everything that's like mainstream is just
boring
You know and that's that's why I do use humor in my sermon sometime is because no matter
How important the truth is that I'm preaching or how good the sermon is, you know, if no one's listening
Then it's not really doing any good for anybody. And so for me
Making the sermons as entertaining as I can or using a little bit of humor
It's a spoonful of sugar to make the medicine go down
Yeah, and so, you know, I really want people to hear what I'm saying because the message is so important
So if it's boring people aren't gonna listen and even if I'm you know saying wonderful things if nobody's listening, right?
right and what's
denomination of Christianity would you say is the weirdest I
Mean
Which denomination is the weirdest that's a tough question because there's some weird stuff out there
I mean Mormonism is kind of like the easy answer like that's just that's just kind of like the knee-jerk like Mormonism
Is the weirdest I mean?
Yeah, I guess I'm just gonna have to go with Mormonism. Okay, it's really hard to get much weirder than that
And why do you think that there are way more false prophets that are just you know
Like like the people like I guess all the big-time people all the people that are popular and everybody's watching
You go on your Instagram. You see the Explorer feed your YouTube recommended. It's all false prophets
Why do you think that is because broad is the way that leads to destruction and many there be which go in there
Out because straight is the gate and narrow is the way which lives in the life and few there be that find it
And so the broad way is always leading to hell and so, you know
It's the narrow way and so you you it's you there be that find it. I mean, that's what God said
Yeah, because I noticed people they say you need to follow Jesus like these false prophets
They never say believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. They say follow Jesus, of course
We should all be following Jesus, but that's not how we get to heaven. That's what they say
Yeah, we get to heaven by believing in Jesus. We're saved by faith not by works
But then we should after we're saved we should do works. We should follow Christ
We should repent of sin. We should get baptized
We should do this and that and the other but what must we do to be saved?
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved, you know salvation is by faith
And then once we're saved, you know, then obviously God wants us to do works
You know and we should but guess what most people who believe in Christ, unfortunately don't do a lot of work for God
I wish everybody who got saved just automatically did all these works and just automatically kept all the commandments and everything
That's not the way real life works because the Spirit is willing but the flesh is weak
Now is is there anybody that cannot be saved
Well, here's the thing every single person has the potential
Initially to be saved like Christ died for every single person and so every single person
In their life has the opportunity to be saved
Okay, but obviously people get to a point where it's too late, you know, it's it's not like oh well
Anybody can always get saved until the last second
That's not true because a lot of people
Get to a point where God's done with them and God's given them too many chances and no they cannot be saved
And that's what the Bible calls a reprobate and obviously we would all agree that person dies without believing in Jesus
It's too late. They can't be like, oh wait, I changed my mind. Let me let me get saved now
So can dead people get saved? No, they're already dead. It's already over for them. Okay
Well, guess what? Some people are walking around the Bible says twice dead like they're already dead, you know, they're a dead man walking
You know, so that's just the reality and and a lot of these popular
Christian influencers they'll make these videos like many Christians are going to hell
How would a Christian go to hell? I mean, yeah, that's just stupid like it sounds like just a clickbait
Some kind of a play on words or something
I mean, obviously there are people who say they're a Christian that are going to hell
But if someone's truly a Christian meaning that they're a believer in Christ
Then how could they go to hell if they you know?
There there could be fake Christians going to hell or false Christians going to hell. But yeah, that's just I
Mean, there's all kinds of garbage out there
It's a jungle out there, you know
and that's why people need to study the Bible for themselves and use discernment about who they listen to and
What do you what in your opinion is the worst Bible version to read?
I mean
Just only read the King James and we don't even have to talk about that but I mean, I mean, what's the worst one?
I mean, obviously the Jehovah's Witness Bible is probably the worst one or the Seventh-day Adventist clear word Bible or
You know something like that is probably the worst and you know
It's funny because I was watching one of your sermons about how you talked to a Jehovah's Witness
And you show him that verse about the rich young ruler when he he says there's none good but God
Yeah, and I talked to Jehovah's Witness I said so is Jesus good well, I mean, yeah, but so so he's God then right?
well
Nothing crickets, I've never I've never had a Jehovah's Witness be able to give me an answer on that
Because he says why call us now me good. There's none good but one and that's God
He's either saying that he's not good. Yeah, he's either saying I'm not good or he's saying I'm God
So take your pick Jehovah's Witnesses
You're moved Jehovah's Witnesses and they never have an answer for that. Yeah, and why do you think that people think you're so hateful? I
Think that people have just been brainwashed over the last few decades to just label anyone who's conservative or Christian
Or even just right-wing politically as just automatically hateful
So I think that that's a brainwashing campaign that's been going on for decades and it's not unique to me
I mean, I think that just every Christian every pastor anyone who's even
Conservative politically is now labeled as hateful. I mean, it's just it's just a mind game
It doesn't really mean anything because everyone loves and hates, you know
I mean everybody has people and things that they love and people and things that they hate. I mean, it's just
Including God God hates and God loves and I'm sure you probably noticed like when Trump became president so many, you know
So-called Christians just were idolizing him. I mean, what do you think about Trump and that that whole movement?
I mean obviously as a Christian I can't respect
Donald Trump as a person just because he's based his life on the love of money
He's obviously been involved a lot of sleazy things and he's not a godly man
He's not someone who is living his life according to the Bible or even cares what the Bible says
So obviously I have no respect for him personally as far as his lifestyle and everything like that
I mean, I didn't vote for him. I don't even vote
I'm kind of just unplugged from that whole system
But the thing about that is that I do think that you know, he seemed to have done good things economically for our country
I don't really again. I don't really follow politics. I can't really speak
Intelligently about this necessarily but it seemed like the economy was going good
Under Trump and things were really thriving and I felt like Trump was guaranteed to get reelected and here's what I said
I said, you know what Trump's like for sure gonna get reelected by a landslide unless something drastic happens
And guess what? Something drastic happened called COVID and I think if it wasn't for that he would have won by a landslide
Of course, we all know that he won anyway, you know, but I'm saying he would have won by
I'm saying he would have won by a landslide though
But but because and here's why he would have won by a landslide because people vote their pocketbooks when think when the economy is going good
People don't want to rock the boat, man
They want to stay with the incumbent when the economy is good and the economy was real good
You know in 2020 until COVID happened and then once COVID happened, obviously
Everybody's upset everybody's you know
Kind of maybe taken out their frustration with COVID on Trump
And then that's why they went with Biden because I mean Biden's not really an exciting candidate. I don't think to anyone
And so, you know just when he's falling down
Yeah
I mean
I feel like I feel like people were probably more voting against Trump than for Biden and I think they were voting against Trump more just
Because they're just angry and frustrated about the COVID pandemic
you know and I
thought it was weird at the time because like it seemed like
At first he was being criticized for doing too much
When he like shut down travel to Europe because at first I wasn't I didn't really think the COVID thing was gonna be a big
Deal because they have a lot of false alarms with like the bird flu and you know
The h1 swine flu. Yeah, but then all of a sudden when he killed the travel between Europe and the u.s
I was like, whoa, that's serious. Cuz I mean that had never happened. I've never seen that before just shutting down all flights
Whoa, and so I remember the Liberals were criticizing him that he was doing something too radical
But then like in a matter of weeks all the sudden said we's not doing enough
But first like he's doing too much. It's you know, what I hate about politics is that
The Republicans like to them the Democrat guy can never do anything, right?
Everything he does is wrong and then the Democrats whatever the Republican does is wrong
And it doesn't even if they do the exact same things if your guys doing it
It's good
If the other guys doing it is bad
And so I feel like if their guy would have done all the same COVID policies as Trump
They would have they would have supported their guy
You know and and so like I said, I'm not really into politics
So I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination cuz I don't really follow it
But I'm just giving my perspective kind of from the sidelines just being vaguely aware of these things
Yeah, I completely stopped following and it's just a waste of time. Yeah
So I was gonna say can you debunk Calvinism in less than 10 seconds
Yeah, I mean, he's the savior of all men, especially of those that believe
You know, he did taste death for every man, right? He's the savior of the whole world
He died not for our sins only but also for the sins of the whole world
He will have all men to be saved and to come into the knowledge of the truth
He's not willing to any should perish but that all should come to repentance
So there's so many verses that say repent of your sins to be saved
No, not not repent of your sins. See repent just means change and you have to go by the context of what's your lifestyle
No
It's based on context. What's being repent stop drinking stop smoking clean up your life. So the thing is
Repent just means change or turn and so if God's repenting we know he's not repenting of a sin
He's just changing his course of action. God was gonna destroy Nineveh
But then he repented and now he's not gonna destroy Nineveh, right?
And so, you know if I'm trusting in idols to save me if I'm a Hindu
bowing down to idols then I'm gonna need to repent and
Trust Christ as Savior no longer believing in idols, but now I'm gonna believe in Jesus
I'm not believing in you know, Shiva or whatever. I said that to somebody and you know what he said
Well idols is a sin. I
Mean, that's just people like that
Like they just they're just they're just basically wanting to win the argument rather than see truth
Because obviously just because you know dog is mammal cat is mammal
Therefore dog is cat is a is a wrong logic. And so just sit there and say well idols are sin
I'm supposed to turn from idols. So therefore I have to turn from all these other sins like that
No, that's not how well it's funny because that same guy now says Jesus isn't even God but calls himself a Christian
Well, I mean anyone who says that Jesus is not God is not a real Christian
Yeah, and I've seen several of them but it's like now, you know, I'm all these people that were like
You know in the whole conservative movement and things like that
These Christian influencers that I used to talk to now
I find out either they don't believe Jesus and God or they don't believe Jesus is God or
They believe in a work salvation and that you can lose your salvation, but then they'll say it's not by works
Oh
So I can I can just fornicate and I can do this stuff and I can still go to heaven
That's what they'll say
Well, here's the thing if you believe in Christ and then go out and live that sinful life
You're gonna get chastened on this earth. You're gonna get punished on this earth
So if I were to go out tonight and get drunk or commit adultery or do drugs or whatever
Well, then God would punish me
I'm not just gonna get away with it
But I would get that punishment on this earth like he could cause me to get in a car accident
Get a disease lose my job lose my family whatever but he's not gonna send me to hell
God has other ways of hurting you than just sending you to hell
You know, once you're saved you're not going to hell no matter what that doesn't mean that there aren't any consequences for our actions
Because there are consequences just like my kids will always be my kids
But there's still consequences to disobeying
They're still gonna get punished but they're not gonna get thrown out of the family
Do your children constantly every day have to prove that they're your kids by doing good works for you
I mean that's absurd right or that they would have to somehow earn the right to be my kids or keep keep my
Commandments in order to be my kids and and that they have to keep they have to you know
Repent of all their disobedient. You're not my kid today. Yeah, listen
Yeah, and then they could become my kid again later when they ask forgiveness, you know or when they you know
Get it right. It's stupid because we're born into God's family
By grace through faith and then it's about a relationship after that that could go sour or be good
You know, it could be sweet. And so it's the same thing with my kids
My kids will always be my kids. But if we're gonna have a good relationship, they got it. They got to keep the commandments
Yeah, they can't be disobedient and then you're gonna be unhappy but they're still your kids exactly. I'm still gonna love them
I'm gonna be unhappy they're gonna get punished
But they're still my kids and I'm not gonna kill them or send them to hell or something, you know
And the same thing we got you know
But he could take things away from us like a parent would take something away from a kid or you know discipline
I don't know what they would say. They're gonna take God's gonna take your salvation
That's that's absurd. That'd be like that'd be like literally your kid disobeying you so you kill him. Yeah, you know like
and here's the thing I
Have my parents DNA in every cell of my body
I have my mother's DNA in every cell of my body and my father's DNA in every cell of my body and nothing can change
That and and it's the same thing spiritually. I'm saved
I'm a child of God and nothing can change that and you know what I liked when you were talking about being born
It's instant just like being born again. It's instant. But these people will say oh, it's a process
It's a process you spend decades being born or something or they they believe you got to be born again and again
And again and again again now I'm saved now. I'm not now I'm saved now. I'm not
You know, you got to go up to the altar, you know once a year and you know accept Christ again
You got to renew you got to keep renewing that subscription exactly and last question I have for you
You know
What made you want to become a pastor and just to follow up?
Was there ever a time when you were just like, I don't know if I want to keep doing this
Like this is too much for me
Well, the reason that I want to be a pastor is because I want people to know the truth
And I just feel like there's so much error out there that I want people to know the truth
I hate lies and I love the truth and that's why I'm a pastor and have I
Been overwhelmed and thought about quitting more times than I can even count
I've thought about quitting many times
Like because you used to work with fire alarms, right? Okay. So were you doing that full-time, correct? Absolutely
So when you were doing that full-time, how are you coming up with all these sermons preaching twice a week, right?
Three times you're preaching three times a week. I mean, how are you doing all that? I
Don't know and all these kids how are you how are you spending time with your family?
You know making up all these sermons going and preaching. I mean that's gotta be hard
I'm just trying to figure out what everybody else is doing all day. Okay?
Well, no, I mean I want advice. I mean like I
Don't know I mean I just I just stay busy I just do stuff
Yeah, I mean I'm sometimes I'm a little bit of a workaholic, you know
I stay busy, but I do spend time with my family a lot too
So, I mean, I just I don't know I just I'm the type of person where like I hate being idle
Like if I go on vacation, I'll like sneak work on vacation
You know what?
I mean like like for me like just taking a day just completely off and just kind of doing nothing
Like that doesn't appeal to me like I just like to do stuff all the time
So, I don't know
I don't think but honestly
I don't think I'm anything special in the sense that I don't think I really accomplished as much as maybe you think I
Mean I sleep eight hours a night and I I work I work every day
But I mean, I don't I don't really think I've done some exceptional amount of work to be honest
We okay just an average guy you have all well, you have all these kids you manage to take care of them
You have a wife and you keep her you keep her happy. You keep all those kids happy
I mean you're coming up with all these great sermons and just like to me. I look at them like wow, that's amazing
You know, that's something to look up to, you know, so I appreciate it. Thank you
Yeah, and I and I just like, you know, I want to kind of follow that, you know
Maybe one day in my life and you know
Maybe be where you're at at some point in my life as far as just coming up with sermon ideas
It's just I read the Bible a lot and I think about it a lot
So when I was doing my fire alarm job, I'm just kind of thinking about the Bible all day while I'm doing it
Yeah, you know, I've caught myself. I like I was memorizing the
First John chapter 5. Yeah, I would sit there and just try to memorize these verses for hours
Yeah, and then I'm like, oh did I forget it I got to go back
No, I mean memorizing the Bible
Any chapter I've memorized it took me many hours. I don't I I didn't just
Memorize them easily. I mean, it's it's hard work and your favorite book in the Bible the Gospel of John. Why is that? I
Mean I to me
I feel like Matthew Mark Luke and John is kind of like the heart of the Bible in the sense that like
Everything before that is kind of leading up to that and then everything after the four gospels kind of like expounding on what happened
I feel you know Christ's coming to this earth and living his life and the death prone resurrection
It just seems like that's the the pivot of everything
So that's why I love the book of John and as far as why I love the book of John
More than Matthew Mark and Luke is just John is a book that kind of focuses more on the preaching of Jesus
and it's like it's more red letters in a sense than some of the other the synoptic Gospels and like
The thing I like about the Gospel of John is it's it's very deep. It's kind of philosophical. I just love it
And if you were to get somebody saved is that what you would use or would
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, the Gospel of John is packed with great verses on getting man. I'm sorry
I was like this one more thing in my mind. Okay, so, you know when you started soul winning
Who did you learn from?
well
I started going to a church in Sacramento, California and it was called Regency Baptist Church and I basically just
Showed up to the church's soul winning times the the first guy that I ever went soul winning with was the pastor's
Brother-in-law his name was Daniel Dion. This is a guy in the church
I went soul winning with him for a few hours and he showed me the ropes the second person
I went soul winning with was the pastor of the church whose name was Pastor Steven Nichols
And then I just went with different members of the church and I just watched them in action and that's how I learned
I mean, there are lots there are literally thousands of churches across America that that have soul winning
Going on and how long how long did it take you to really get down a good soul winning method? I
Mean, I would say it took it took a few it took several weeks
Before I was able to even like present the gospel at all and I didn't really have my my method really honed
Until maybe two or three months into it or something and have you just like I mean
Are you still getting better at it? Are you are you still learning a lot with soul winning?
I mean, I'm definitely learning a lot. I don't know if I'm necessarily getting better at it. But I mean, I definitely learn things
So well, I appreciate you pastor Anderson's been a pleasure and a blessing