And that's it for this video, thanks for watching, and I'll see you in the next one.
Thank you for watching, and I'll see you in the next one.
So here's a question, John, that I want to get to. It's a question that came in from
a skeptic of the Young Earth creation and global flood model. The question is, how could
any vegetarian, and in brackets, he put trees, bushes and grass, survive being submerged
or even destroyed by salinated water?
Okay, it is a good question, and it's one that I asked in the middle of the desert of
Western Australia. You see, my background is geology. I went and did three years of
genetics as well. I'd grown up with a dad who loved gardening. My first gardening book,
even as a non-Christian, was the old Yates Gardening Guide. Some of you may remember
that it started with, man was made to live in a garden. And I thought, that's a wonderful
idea. Later on, I discovered it straight from Genesis, because God made a garden and he
put the man in it. So man was made to live in a garden. But that didn't help me figure
out, how does a gum tree survive a flood? Here in Australia, we're noted for gum trees,
because A, they can actually send their roots down and find the water, but B, if you flood
the earth, this dry land plant, how does it cope? So I had an opportunity. I was with
the head of the agricultural section in forestry, and I asked him, I said, see that gum tree
over there? How does it actually survive? How would it actually survive a flood that
went not just 40 days, but over 364 days, plus a few extras? And he said, oh, simple
actually. Is this the same way they do now? I said, what do you mean? He said, well, built
into the tree, and we don't know why, but every now and then in Australia, we have a
year where there's a massive rainfall. Some of you may have read up on Jurassic Park back
in 2011, we had 16 inches of rain, 400 millimetres in four hours. It overwhelmed everything.
And now we've got the opposite, we've got a drought. Now the gum trees lives through
a boat. And I'm out in the desert, and this guy said, well, look, come and have a look
at this. He said, this tree grows in this pan. He said, this is a little lake bed in
wet seasons, and the gum tree stays alive. And he said, sometimes the lake gets so deep,
the gum tree should drown. But he said, here's what we've observed. They have a mechanism
to turn themselves off. And he says, as soon as the water level gets to the right humidity,
they turn themselves back on again. Now, I had my students after that conversation, I
had my students run Charles Darwin's experiment for seven years to see if those sort of statements
held up. What experiment? Well, Charles Darwin still got bottles in the basement of the university
in which he collected seeds, dry land plant seeds, wet land plant seeds, grass seeds,
vegetable seeds, et cetera. And he put them in a bottle, filled it up with water. And
then every week they would take one out and they would plant them to see what survived.
Here's the general results you got. And by the way, I got exactly the same results in
my students for seven years in a row. So feel free to try and disprove it. You're not
going to be successful. Domestic plants, corn, wheat, peas, all the things that Noah would
have taken on the ark as feed for himself, they don't survive very well underwater. You
put them in water, you end up with pea beer, right? It permits. They don't do well underwater
at all. But all your grass seeds, all of the wild plants, they survive like crazy.
I mean, we see it in the real world out here. We have dams, we build massive dams in Australia
compared to many countries. And what you find is you flood the dam, the dam will be underwater
for 25 years, then there'll be a mega drought and it will dry out. And instantly the grass
comes back up. Now the seed has been there for 10, 20, 30 years. It's not affected by
the water at all. So as much as the question seems impossible, when you test this real
world, you'll find that the sort of plants that Noah would have taken on board for food
actually need to be on board for food. The sort of plants that are going to be outside
the ark anyway, the wild animal food, the vegetarian stuff, no trouble at all. It survives
now underwater at all. And by the way, you have an assumption when you say it was flooded
with salt water. We do have salt water we dig out of the ground with bores and we can
supply it to most of the plants. They don't seem to struggle too much with it here in
Australia. But if you assume all the flood waters were salt water, you are assuming too
much. Here's your assumption. Whatever the sea is like now, it's always been. Charles
Lyell's principle of uniformitarianism. Don't assume that the present is the key to the
past. When God made the world, it was very good and there would have been just enough
minerals in the water to do the best for all the fishes that they ever could do. That's
why many salt water fishes can move into fresh water and vice versa. And year by year, the
amount of salt is actually increasing in the sea. Can you get it? No, nudge, nudge. In
the last days, a third of the sea will die. That's the inevitable result, which means
one thing. When God made the world, he knew how it could end. Interesting thought.
I got to say, John, again, great answer to a common question, a good question with a
solid answer. I find even the best so-called objections to a young earth and a global flood
have very good answers ready to go, as you've demonstrated here, John. George, did you have
any comments or anything, brother, before we get to the next question?
Yeah, I'd just like to confirm what John had mentioned. One day when you come up to my
lake house, John, I'll show you exactly what you were saying about the water level of the
lake when it drops in those drought years. The banks, it's amazing how quickly they come
up with vegetation. The wattle trees, the grass, the weeds, they'll come up. And the
other thing, of course, after the flood, the soils and the materials would have been rich
in minerals, perfect sort of composition for seeds to grow in.
One other thing I might throw in there, now that I've been a gardener for many, many decades,
here's what I've observed. There are some plants that if you submerse them under water,
the first thing they begin to do is swell. They take a certain amount of water in, and
then they form on the outside an impenetrable barrier. They lock themselves in. It's built
into the seed, and that barrier will begin to disintegrate as soon as the humidity outside
the search of the seed in the ground gets below a certain point, then they'll germinate.
So they have an inbuilt mechanism to cope with the right amount and the wrong amount
of water. So intelligent design, way above the normal level we used to think of it.
And these inbuilt mechanisms that we frequently talk about, they are evidence of forward thinking,
which points us back to the forward thinker. So those are some great points. And as you
pointed out, John, correct me if I'm wrong, Darwin himself, Charles Darwin himself, helped
us with this answer. There is experiment.
We're credit as you.
Standing, there's another Australian, I think it's the bottle brush, John, doesn't it rely
on a bushfire to actually germinate?
It does. There's two ways you can take this. One is that it's adapted to actually become
fire resistant. But the real history of the plant is that you have a plant which all the
non-fire resistant ones have been eliminated to the point where the seed is such a thick
coat on it, a fire is needed. So it's become degenerate dependent. And I'd say it's not
an example of creation per se, but it is an example of forward planning to a world which
you would have terrible conditions like we have in Australia, six years out of 10.
And evolution doesn't do any forward planning, does it?
No, it doesn't do any forward planning, no brains.
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