Hello everybody, it's me, Mr. Tall23, back with another video.
And I haven't done a livestream on this particular channel in a while, I'm doing a lot of them
on my Instagram account, BibleTruth23, but I'm having problems with my phone recently,
so I just decided to do it here.
But I want to do a video talking about the Trinity, I just want to make sure first of
all that the sound is working and that you can hear me.
So let me go check that out real quick.
Alright, it's going good.
Alright, so yeah, today I want to talk about the subject of the Trinity, explain that,
and this is something that I have not done yet on the For Dummies series because I didn't
think it was needed, since this is a doctrine which is understood by most people, even those
who are saved or claim to be saved.
This is a very simple doctrine that's believed by 98% of Christians, the only people who
don't believe the Trinity are Oneness Pentecostals, Jehovah's Witnesses, and some Hebrew Roots
people, among various other Mormons and a few other groups of people out there.
And basically, the doctrine of the Trinity is that God is one God, there is only one
God, the Lord, who is three persons, and these three persons are all equally God.
Those persons are the Father, the Son, also known as the Word, and the Holy Ghost.
And this comes from 1 John 5 verse 7, where the Bible says,
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost,
and these three are one, the Bible says.
So there are again, three that are one, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, these
three are one.
So the Trinity is simply explaining the fact that these three that are mentioned are three
different persons.
They are distinct from each other, and yet they are all one God.
They share the same deity.
But there are some false doctrines and misunderstandings about the Trinity out there.
One of them is that some people would just deny that Jesus is God altogether, and they
say they just reject the Trinity because they believe that only the Father is God.
There's others out there who believe in a doctrine called Oneness or Modalism, where
they believe that Jesus is one person who makes up three different modes or manifestations.
They'll say that Jesus is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
And then there's another doctrine, which I haven't even heard of until recently, which
is being taught by some people on Instagram who claim to be new IFB and claim to agree
with us on the Trinity and are pretending to be believers of the Trinity.
But then they're saying that Jesus is the Father and Jesus is the Son, Jesus is the
Holy Ghost, but they're still three different persons.
So basically what they're saying is that Jesus is three persons.
But the correct view of the Trinity is that Jesus is one person, the Son, who is not the
Holy Ghost.
He is not the Father.
The Father is not the Holy Ghost, but all three of these are God.
This is the Trinity right here.
This over here is Modalism, where people were to say that there's only one God, but at the
same time there's one person to say that the Son is the Father or the Son is the Holy Ghost.
This is Modalism.
This is Oneness.
This is heresy.
This is this new doctrine that some people are teaching where they say that, oh, Jesus
is the Father, Jesus is the Son, and Jesus is the Holy Ghost, but these are still three
different persons, which obviously doesn't make any sense.
But I'm going to explain why this is the right biblical correct view of God and why we believe
that there's only one God who are three different persons.
Jesus is not the Father.
The Father is not the Holy Ghost.
The Holy Ghost is not the Son, et cetera.
These are all distinct persons, but they're all one God.
So to come to this conclusion, I mean, it's not like there's a particular verse that uses
the word Trinity, and that's where some people will attack it.
They'll say, well, the word Trinity isn't in the Bible.
Well, neither is the word rapture, but the concept of the rapture is still found in the
Bible.
In fact, the word rapture comes from the phrase caught up, which is found in First Thessalonians
chapter four, because rapture is just Latin for caught up.
And the word Trinity just means three in one, triunity, three being one, or it also
means triad.
OK, so that's what we're talking about when we mean the Trinity.
OK, yeah, the word Trinity itself is not found in the Bible, but the concept of it is.
And there are plenty of scriptures which show us that this is true, and we just have to
have a good knowledge of what the Bible teaches.
So I'm going to be going through the Bible today and proving the Trinity.
So for those people who deny the Trinity out there to show that they're wrong, but also
to explain the Trinity for those who claim to believe the Trinity, but believe something
weird like this, that is not the Trinity.
So this is for the heretics out there who do not yet understand the truth about God
and for the people out there who just are confused and have a foolish understanding
of what the Trinity is.
So first of all, to understand this concept, we have to lay some groundwork that there
is only one God, OK, putting to bed the idea that only Mormons believe that there are three
gods, because Mormons believe that there are multiple gods.
But that's not true.
The Bible teaches that there is only one God, it says in Isaiah chapter 44, Isaiah chapter
44, verse 6, Thus saith the Lord, the king of Israel and his redeemer, the Lord of hosts,
I am the first and I am the last, and beside me there is no God.
So the Lord says, beside me there is no God, there is only one God.
It says also in Isaiah 45, verse 21, Isaiah 45, verse 21, Tell ye and bring them near,
yea, let them take counsel together, who hath declared this from ancient time, who hath
told it from that time?
Have not I the Lord?
And there is no God else beside me, a just God and a Savior, there is none beside me.
So God is again saying, there is no God beside me.
Again, there's only one God, not two, not three, not millions or thousands or whatever
like the pagans believe, there is only one God.
Deuteronomy 6.4, Deuteronomy 6.4, great verse, the Bible says, Hero Israel, the Lord our
God is one Lord.
Okay, so that is that God is not three lords, meaning three different gods, but God is one
Lord, or Jehovah, there is only one God, okay, again, Psalm 18, verse 31, and this is obviously
some basic groundwork, I mean, I just want to read these scriptures just to give us a
good foundation, because pretty much, like I said, every Christian understands that there's
only one God.
This is not heavily disputed, everybody understands this, but I just want to give some good verses
just to, you know, prove this, because the Bible tells us to prove all things, of course.
That says in Psalm 18, verse 31, For who is God save the Lord?
Or who is a rock save our God?
So the Bible tells us that the Lord is the only God.
Okay, again, Jehovah, the Lord, I am, he's the only God, there's no other gods besides
the Lord, the God of the Bible.
First Timothy 2.5, the Bible says, For there is one God and one mediator between God and
man, the man Christ Jesus.
First Corinthians chapter 8, the Bible says, verse 4, As concerning therefore the eating
of those things that are offered in sacrifices and idols, we know that an idol is nothing
in the world, and that there is none other God but one.
So again, it says, There is none other God but one, there is only one God.
For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, as there be
gods many and lords many.
So it's just saying, you know, on this earth, a lot of different people call different things
and different persons and different, you know, historical figures or whatever they call them
gods and lords, you know, obviously, in different religions, they believe in many gods.
But it says in verse six, but to us, there is but one God, the Father of whom are all
things, and we in him, and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by
him.
So the Bible says, you know, there is none God but one, and that is our God, okay, the
gods that the heathen worship, these are not gods, okay.
So just some basic groundwork there, that there is only one God.
And you know, I could sit here all day and read scriptures about that, because it's just
emphasized so many times in the Bible.
Let me put this down for a second, I don't need it at the moment.
But anyway, yeah, so first of all, the first conclusion that we come to in order to establish
the doctrine of the Trinity is that there is only one God.
But then we also have to understand that all three of these that are mentioned in First
John 5-7, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, all three of these in the Bible are
called God, okay.
So how do we know first of all that the Word, as it talks about in First John 5-7 is referring
to the Son?
Now number one, in Matthew 28, when Jesus tells them to go out and baptize, He says
baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
So the Son is used interchangeably with the Word, but then Jesus has called the Word in
John chapter 1, John chapter 1.
So how do we know that Jesus is God?
And I'm obviously skipping the part that the Father is God, because I think everybody understands
that again, the Bible calls Him God the Father many times throughout the Scriptures, so nobody
has a dispute with the idea that the Father is God, okay, that's something that everybody
agrees with.
So there are some people out there who would deny that Jesus is God, who would deny the
deity of Christ, but the Bible again tells us very clearly that Jesus is God.
So it says in John chapter 1, verse 1, in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God, and the Word was God.
Well who is this Word?
John in verse 14, the Bible says, and the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and
we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and
truth.
So the Bible tells us that the Word that was in the beginning with God and was God was
made flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten
of the Father.
So the Bible defines for us who this Word is as the only begotten Son of God.
That would be, of course, Jesus Christ, okay.
And that's something that pretty much nobody disputes, the idea that Jesus is the Son of
God.
You know, He said in John chapter 9 to the man that was blind from birth but who was
healed and was given his sight, He says, Dost thou believe in the Son of God?
And He says, you know, I'm paraphrasing, but He says, you know, Who is He that I may believe
in Him?
And Jesus says, It is He that talketh with thee.
Okay, so He's basically saying, I'm the Son of God.
And He says, He literally says those exact words, I am the Son of God, in John 1036.
There's no dispute that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, He's called that many
times in the Bible, even the most famous verse, John 3.16, He says, For God so loved the world
that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have
everlasting life.
So who God sent according to Jesus Himself is the only begotten Son of God.
That's Jesus Christ.
We also know the Word is Jesus because in Revelation 19, when Jesus comes on the white
horse, it again calls Him the Word of God.
It says in Revelation, chapter 19, verse 11, And I saw heaven open and behold a white horse
and he that sat upon was called Faithful and true and in righteousness he doth judge and
make war.
His eyes were as flame of fire and on his head were many crowns and he had a name written
that no man knew but he himself and he was clove of the vesture dipped in blood and his
name is called the Word of God.
So the one who is on the horse, who is going to fight against these heathen Armageddon,
the Bible says that that is called the Word of God.
So again, it's pretty clear that Jesus is the Word that's talked about in John 1.1 and
John 1.1 clearly says that the Word was God.
And again, some false Bible translations like that of the Jehovah's Witnesses will try to
change this, to try to hide this fact.
But this is not an isolated scripture.
There's not just one example where the Bible tells us that Jesus is God.
There's many examples.
Let me show you another one.
Hebrews 1.8, But unto the Son He saith.
So who is the Son?
Okay, remember, in terms of the Trinity, we believe that, you know, Jesus is the Son and
the Son is God, okay?
So right here, the Father is speaking.
The Father is speaking, it says, unto the Son He saith, okay, that Son is Jesus Christ.
Again, there's no dispute that Jesus is the Son of God.
He says, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever.
So why do we believe that the Son is God?
Because the Father said to the Son, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever, okay?
So again, another clear scripture where the Son is being called God in the Bible.
Another clear scripture, 1 Thessalonians chapter 3, I'm sorry, 1 Timothy chapter 3.
1 Timothy chapter 3 verse 16, the Bible says, And without controversy, great is the mystery
of godliness.
God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the spirit, seen of angels, preached unto
the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received unto the glory.
Now ask yourself, who was believed on in the world?
The Bible says, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved.
So the person who is supposed to be believed on, according to the New Testament, is Jesus
Christ.
So the one that was made flesh, according to 1 Timothy 3.16, is God.
God was manifest or revealed in the flesh.
That again aligns with John 1, where it says that in the beginning was the Word, and the
Word was God, and it says that the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.
So when the Word is made flesh, at the same time, God was made flesh, because the Bible
says the Word was God.
This is not that difficult to understand, okay?
So Jesus is God in the flesh, okay?
That's not, again, a doctrine that we just came up with, that's a doctrine that's clearly
taught in the Bible.
Another clear scripture where the Bible calls Jesus God, Romans chapter 9 verse 5, Romans
chapter 9 verse 5, the Bible says, Whose are the fathers, and whom as concerning the flesh
Christ came, who is over all God blessed forever, Amen.
So the Bible says that Christ is God blessed forever, Amen.
Another clear scripture, Micah 5, 2, is a prophecy of Jesus Christ, okay?
It even prophesied where Jesus is going to be born, okay?
And this flies in the face of the idea that Jesus is a created being, like the Jehovah's
Witnesses and other Trinity deniers believe, that they believe that Jesus had a beginning
and that he came into existence.
Sometimes they'll say, well, he was the first creation.
Other people believe that he was created when he was born of the Virgin Mary.
But the Bible tells us that he is from everlasting, a term which is used for the Lord in the Old
Testament.
It says in Micah chapter 5 verse 2, But thou Bethlehem Ephrathah, though thou be little
among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me, that is, to be
ruler in Israel, whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
So the Bible tells us that the ruler of Judah, who would be born in Bethlehem, that would
be Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is from everlasting, okay?
And John 8.58 is another example where Jesus declares himself to be God and also shows
his eternal past, where he says, John 8.58, Before Abraham was, I am.
And that is a clear reference to Exodus 3.14, where Moses asks what God's name is, and he
says, I am that I am, and he tells Moses to go to the children of Israel, and he says
to say that I am hath sent me to you, okay?
And I am is just a first person form of the name Jehovah.
So Jesus is declaring himself to be the eternally existent Jehovah when he says, I am.
Another proof of that is when in John 8, I think it's verse 21 or 8.24, he says, Except
ye believe that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Again, that's a reference to the book of Isaiah, where God says, I am he, and there is none
else.
There is no God beside me.
So when he declares, I am he, he's declaring himself to be the one true God, okay?
So Jesus is God.
There is no dispute about that.
Another clear scripture where the Bible references an Old Testament verse that is talking about
the Lord.
Again, talking about Jehovah, the Bible says that, uses that to refer to Jesus, okay?
It says in Romans 10.9, that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and
shalt believe in thy heart that God hath raised from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
So it says, confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, but look down verse 13.
It says, For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
How shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?
How shall they believe in him in whom they have not heard?
The Bible tells us we need to believe in Jesus Christ to be saved, okay?
So it says that you call on him in whom you believe, okay?
And it says that that name that you call upon is the name of the Lord.
Now this is a reference to Joel chapter 2.
I believe it's verse 32 where it says, Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be
delivered, okay?
In your King James Bible, that Lord would be all caps, L-O-R-D, because that in Hebrew
is Yehovah or Jehovah, okay?
So he's basically saying, in the book of Joel, whosoever shall call on the name of Jehovah
shall be saved.
That's referenced in the New Testament referring to Jesus Christ, that once you believe in
Jesus, you express that by confessing the name of the Lord Jesus, okay, which the Bible
says is calling on the name of the Lord.
So again, the Bible tells us flat out in Romans chapter 10 that the name of the Lord is Jesus.
The name of God is Jesus, okay?
Jesus is God.
There's no dispute about that.
Another scripture where it's referring back to the Old Testament, a clear example of it
talking about God, and in the New Testament it is talking about Jesus, it says in John
chapter 12, verse 39, therefore they could not believe because that Isaiah said again,
he has blinded their eyes and hardened their heart that they should not see with their
eyes nor understand with their heart and be converted and I should heal them.
These things said as Isaiah's when he saw his glory and spake of it.
So the author of the book of John, John being guided by the Holy Ghost, says that Isaiah
said this, or Isaiah said this, when he saw his glory referring to the glory of Jesus
and spake of him.
Now this is a quotation from Isaiah chapter six.
Isaiah chapter six, where it says in the year that King Uzziah died, I saw also the Lord
sitting upon a throne high and lifted up and his train filled the temple and above it stood
the seraphims.
Each one had six wings with twain he covered his face and with twain he covered his feet
and with twain he did fly.
And one cried unto another and said, holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts.
The whole earth is full of his glory.
And then Isaiah himself says, you know, for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of
hosts in verse five.
Then in verse 10 is when it quote is the quote, make the heart that people fad, make their
eyes heavy and shut their eyes, lest they see with their eyes and hear with their hearts
or hear with their ears and understand with their heart and be converted and to be healed.
That is the reference in John chapter 12.
It's referring back to this.
OK, and John says that he said this when he saw his glory and spake of it.
Now, according to Isaiah chapter six, the glory that he sees is the glory of the Lord
of hosts.
So the Bible tells us in John chapter 12 that Jesus is the Lord of hosts, Jehovah of hosts.
OK, again, Jesus is the one true God, according to the Bible.
It's made very clear in Colossians or Colossians chapter two, verse nine.
Bible says in Colossians chapter two, verse nine, for in him dwelleth all the fullness
of the Godhead bodily.
Now, some people misunderstand what the word God had means on the suffix head is just an
older way of saying hood.
OK, so God had just means God hood or the quality of being divine.
It's basically saying all the fullness of being God or being divine is within the body
of Jesus Christ.
When Jesus Christ was on the earth again, that was God manifest or revealed in the flesh.
The Book of Philippians tells us that Jesus is equal with God, it says in Philippians
chapter two, Philippians chapter two, verse six, who be started verse five, let this mind
be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus, who being in the form of God, thought it not
robbery to be equal with God, but made himself of no reputation and took upon him the form
of a servant.
It was made in the likeness of men.
So the Bible says that Christ Jesus was in the form of God and thought it not robbery
to be equal with God.
OK, that's why he said, I and my father are one, because he is equal to the father.
They are both equally God.
OK, there's not two gods or Jesus is not lesser.
They're both God.
OK, there is only one God and Jesus, according to the Bible, is God.
One last scripture on this and then we'll move on to the next point.
This is one that really convinced me.
I think this is also pretty clear.
That says in Hebrews chapter three, verse one, wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of
the heavenly calling, consider the apostle and high priest of our profession, Christ
Jesus, who is faithful to him that appointed him as also Moses was faithful in all his
house.
For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses.
Talking about Jesus Christ in as much as he who has builded the house has more honor than
the house.
OK, so it's saying Jesus has more glory than Moses because the one who builds the house
is has more honor than the house itself.
OK, so why did Jesus have more glory and honor than Moses?
Because Moses being the house, you know, was not as great as the one who built the house,
which is Jesus.
OK, that's what it says in verse is one to three.
But then notice verse four, for every house is builded by some man, but he that built
all things is God.
So it says that the one that builds all these things is God.
OK, again, another clear reference that Jesus who built the house of Moses is God.
OK, now we could go on again, just like the verses about there being only one God.
The Bible tells us over and over and over again in the New Testament that Jesus is God.
There is no dispute about this.
I used to reject this doctrine because I was ignorant of the Bible.
I didn't know what the Bible said on these things, but it should be clear.
The Bible says that in the beginning, the word was with God and the word was God unto
the son.
He sayeth, you know, thy throne of God is forever and ever.
God was manifest in the flesh.
Christ, who is overall blessed, the God blessed forever.
Amen.
You know, he's from everlasting.
He said, I am.
And the Bible refers to Old Testament scriptures talking about the Lord Jehovah, talking about
the Lord of hosts in the New Testament, it refers back to that and is talking about Jesus.
OK, the Bible says in him dwelt all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
The Bible says that he is equal with God.
OK.
So flat out calls him God several times.
There's no dispute that Jesus is God.
That's what the Bible clearly teaches.
We also have to understand and to understand the Trinity, that the Spirit is God.
And not only that, we just have to understand the fact that the Spirit is a person, because
this is something that, again, Trinity deniers do not believe, especially Jehovah's Witnesses.
They'll just say that, oh, the Spirit is just some kind of force.
You know, it's just, you know, just some kind of mystical, magical thing that they get from
science fiction, but isn't from the Bible.
But the Bible does make it very clear that the Spirit is a person, the Holy Spirit, that
is.
It says in Acts chapter five.
This is a clear example where the Holy Ghost is called God.
Says in Acts chapter five, verse three, But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled
thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Was it remained?
Was it not thine own?
And after it was sold, was it not in thine own power?
Why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart?
Thou has not lied unto men, but unto God.
So in verse three, he says, you've lied to the Holy Ghost.
In verse four, he says, you've lied unto God.
So again, the Holy Ghost is God.
But to people like the Jehovah's Witnesses, they'll just say, oh, you know, well, that's
just an aspect of God.
Now, we know, first of all, that that's not true or that they'll say that it's just like
the spirit of the Father, just part of the Father or whatever, or just like some kind
of, you know, magical force of the Father uses or something.
But we know that's not true, first of all, because of First John 5 7, which I already
went over, that there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word and
the Holy Ghost.
OK, so the Bible distinguishes the Holy Ghost from the Father.
These are not the same.
They're not just aspects of each other.
They are three that bear record.
OK, so there's that point.
But then also, the Bible tells us a good example that the Holy Ghost is a person, is that Jesus
constantly refers to the Holy Ghost as He.
And we see personal attributes of the Holy Ghost, such as speaking, such as teaching,
such as testifying, such as bearing witness, things like that.
In John chapter 15, this is a good example, verse 26, Jesus says, But when the Comforter
is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth
from the Father, He shall testify of me.
So first of all, He refers to this Comforter, which He defines as the Holy Ghost, is defined
as the Spirit of truth.
He says He will testify of me, not it.
It's not a thing.
It's a person.
Or He's a person.
I shouldn't, you know, the Holy Ghost is a He, it's a person.
He's a person.
He says He shall testify of me.
And it says in John 16, verse 13, Jesus says, Howbeit when He, the Spirit of truth, is come,
He will guide you into all truth, for He shall not speak of Himself whatsoever.
He shall hear, that shall He speak, and He will show you things to come.
So it's funny how these people say that, you know, the Spirit is just some kind of force,
and the Spirit is not a person.
But Jesus refers to the Spirit as He, and He says He shall speak of things to come.
He will show you things to come.
He shall teach you all things.
He shall testify of me.
Now again, how is the Holy Ghost not a person when the Holy Ghost is referred to as He,
and the Holy Ghost is doing things like testifying, showing you things to come, teaching, speaking,
etc.
Okay, so that shows us also that the Spirit is God, and the Spirit is a separate person
from the Father and the Son.
But now I want to come to the conclusion that these three who are called God, the Father,
the Son, and the Holy Ghost, are separate from each other.
They're distinct.
They're different persons.
And this is where you'll lose people like the modalist, okay, because the modalist,
or the oneness crowd, which is a very rare doctrine nowadays, but unfortunately it's
crept into some Baptist churches, and there's a whole denomination out there called the
oneness Pentecostals.
It's like several billion people.
They believe that the Son is the Father, and the Father is the Holy Ghost, and the Holy
Ghost is the Son.
They believe that when the Bible says these three are one, they believe that that's one
person.
So basically they think that Jesus is God the Father.
They think that Jesus is the Holy Ghost, and that Jesus is the Son.
They just think that those are different manifestations, or different modes, or different hats that
God puts on.
But that's not what the Bible teaches at all.
And now we're going to show you that the Bible teaches that there's three persons, one God.
Now one thing that I've heard some people bring up is this false idea that's not biblical.
They'll say, well the idea of there being different persons is not in the Bible.
They'll just make the word God equal to person.
They'll say, well the Bible says there's only one God, and the Trinity is three Gods.
No it's not.
The Trinity is three persons who are one God.
And they say, well that doesn't make any sense.
That's not what my understanding of God, well first of all, one point I want to bring up
before I delve into the Scriptures here, is that our idea of God should be based on the
Bible, not from paganism, because where they're getting this idea that God is equivalent to
one person is from pagan religions, where their idea of they have different Gods, and
each of those different Gods is a different person.
So they'll look at that and they'll say, well you believe in three persons, that must mean
you believe in three Gods.
That's not true, because we should define what God is based on the Bible, and not based
on these false religions which have no truth, which are from the devil in the first place.
But the Bible does in fact refer to the word persons, and it does use persons, and it does
tell us that there are different persons of the Godhead, and this word is found in Hebrews
chapter 1 verse 3.
I'll start at verse 1 however, just to get some context.
It says, God who at sundry times and in diverse manners spake in time past unto the fathers
by the prophets, so this is talking about God the Father, hath in these last days spoken
unto us by his Son.
So first of all it's mentioned, God the Father and his Son, which is Jesus of course.
It says, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds, who
being the brightness of his glory and the express image of his person, and upholding
all things by the word of his power, when he by himself purged our sins, sat down the
right hand of majesty on high.
So we can learn two things from verse 3.
First of all, that Jesus the Son is the express image of the Father's person.
So again, going back to this chart, this common illustration of the Trinity, the Father is
a person according to Hebrews 1-3.
The Father is a person, and the Son according to Hebrews 1-3 is the image of the Father's
person.
Now it does not say the Son is the Father, because otherwise that wouldn't make any sense
for him to be the image of the Father's person, that they are the same person.
That means he is in the likeness of the Father.
That is why he said in John 14, if you've seen me you've seen the Father, and I'll get
to that later.
But he is the image of the Father's person.
The Bible also says in Colossians 1-15 that Jesus is the image of the invisible God.
You cannot see the Father according to many scriptures in the Bible, but we can see the
Son.
He is the image, he is the likeness of the invisible God, the Father.
But they are not each other.
Another proof of that is later in verse 3 where it says that when he had by himself
purged our sins, again talking about Jesus, he sat down on the right hand of the majesty
on high.
This should not be very difficult to understand.
But for some reason, modalists and other Trinity deniers have a tough time understanding basic
concepts.
Okay, so let's just say this, okay, sorry for the bad drawing, but let's just say this
is a throne.
Okay, this is the Father sitting on the throne.
Okay, the Son is on the right hand of the majesty on high.
Now, the modalists will have you to believe that these two are each other so that the
Son is sitting on the right hand of himself.
That's ridiculous.
That's not what the Bible says.
The Bible says that this one, Jesus, the Son, is the image of his person and he sits at
the right hand of the Father or the majesty on high.
Okay, very clear.
Now there are many scriptures which show us this fact and I just want to read some scriptures
in the Old Testament which show us that God is multiple persons because this is not just
a New Testament doctrine.
This is not just a doctrine that just comes from, oh, historical Christianity or whatever.
Okay, I just want to make this very clear.
I believe in the Trinity because the Bible tells us about the Trinity, not because, oh,
some church council or whatever in 300 AD, okay, I don't care what they have to say.
Okay, they came to the right conclusion at the council and I see it with the Trinity
and everything.
That's not the reason why I believe in the Trinity.
I believe in the Trinity because it's what the Bible teaches as I'm about to prove.
So first of all, there's several instances in the Bible where God is speaking in plural,
okay, where he's not just saying I and me, et cetera, but God is referring to three
different persons.
He's speaking in plural.
Genesis chapter 1 verse 26, this is one example, and God said, let us make man in our image
after our likeness and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the fowl
of the air and so on.
So when God creates man, it says that, you know, let us make man in our image.
So again, speaking in plural, okay, us and our, that's not one person, that's multiple
persons.
And this makes sense with Hebrews 1, 3, which I just read from where the Bible says that
the son is the image of the father's person.
So you have two persons at least speaking saying, let us make man in our image.
That would make sense if he says us and our, if you understand again that the son and the
father are different, they're different persons, so that was why God could say us, but one
is the image of each other.
So when God makes man in their image, okay, that is because man is both the image of the
son and of the father because they are alike to each other according to Hebrews 1, 3.
Jesus is the image of God the father.
Now some people might have this stupid argument of saying, well, oh, you know, the Bible is
just, you know, refusing the royal we, as they say, which there's no proof of that whatsoever.
I've made other videos on this subject on my channel in times past, but the idea of
the royal we is something that came from the middle ages.
It's not something that was around in Bible times.
It's not something they can prove from within Scripture, but if we just read just a couple
chapters forward, we can see very clearly that God is not speaking in plurals just to,
you know, lift up his majesty, but God is speaking in plurals because of the fact that
God is truly more than one person.
That's why the Bible says these three are one, not just this one is one and they're
just three different modes or whatever.
Bible never says that.
It says in Genesis chapter 3 verse 22, and the Lord God said, behold, the man has become
as one of us to no good and evil.
So the Lord is speaking and God says, as one of us.
Okay, now again, in order for man to be as one of us, that would have to mean that there's
not just one, okay?
So he's not just, you know, expressing majesty or whatever by this royal we idea that does
not come from the Bible, but God makes it very clear that there is more than one person
because God is speaking in plurals here.
Another good example is in Isaiah chapter 48.
Now remember the context of Isaiah 48.
Just a few chapters before this, God said very clearly, you know, there's no God beside
me several times.
It's in Isaiah 43, Isaiah 44, and Isaiah 45, and I believe in Isaiah 46 as well there's
a scripture.
Yeah, yeah, Isaiah 46 verse 9, I am God and there is none else, I am God and there is
none like me.
Okay, so again, makes it very clear, he says over and over again in the book of Isaiah,
there's only one God.
But then look what the Bible says in Isaiah 48 verse 16.
Come ye near unto me, hear ye this, I have not spoken in secret from the beginning, from
the time that it was, there am I, and now the Lord God and his Spirit has sent me.
So there's somebody talking right here who says the Lord and his Spirit have sent me.
Okay, now it says in verse 17, thus saith the Lord thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel,
I am the Lord thy God which teaseth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that
thou shouldest go.
So the one who is talking is the Lord, and the Lord says, okay, the Lord God and his
Spirit has sent me, okay.
And just even from the context, going up to verse 12, it says, hearken unto me, O Jacob
and Israel, my called, I am he, I am the first, I also am the last.
Okay, there's no indication that changes who's talking here.
Okay, it's the Lord who is talking throughout the whole chapter, the Lord says the Lord
and his Spirit has sent me, and then he says, you know, I am the Redeemer, the Holy One
of Israel.
I am the Lord thy God which teacheth thee, okay.
So that only makes sense with the Trinity, if there's more than one person, because the
Lord is saying, the Lord has sent me, his Spirit has sent me, okay, because that is
Jesus Christ who is talking, because again, Jesus Christ is the Lord God, but that shows
us that there is more than one person, okay, that the Lord and his Spirit, talking about
the Father and the Holy Ghost has sent me, in verse 17, that would be the Son, Jesus
Christ talking.
Okay, another good example of this is back in Genesis chapter 19, I believe it's verse
24, where it says that the Lord rained fire and brimstone from the Lord out of heaven.
So there's the Lord who is on earth, okay, who appeared to Abraham, Abraham was able
to speak to and talk with God personally in Genesis chapter 18, where, you know, Abraham
speaking to him, and then there's the two angels who go down to Sodom, okay, it says
that the Lord appeared to Abraham in Genesis chapter 18, verse 3, I believe, and then in
Genesis chapter 19, it says that the Lord rained fire from the Lord down from heaven.
Again, that shows us that the Lord was on earth, that's the Lord that, you know, that
a man can actually see, that Abraham can actually see, that would be Jesus Christ.
But the Lord is still raining down fire and brimstone from heaven, because the Father
is still in heaven, it was the Son that appeared to Abraham, very clear.
Now the Bible, so the Bible makes it very clear that there's more than one person, God
speaks in plurals, you know, God, the Bible shows us that there is such a thing as persons
in the Bible.
But now I just want to make it very clear in the Bible, hello, Wendy, make it very clear
in the Bible that the Son is not the Father.
Now this is, again, important for these two false doctrines, modalism, which teaches that,
you know, Jesus is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, and there's only one person,
and this new doctrine I was talking about that some people have started teaching, which
is not, again, not the Trinity where people say that Jesus is three persons and Jesus
is the Father.
Let me make it very clear, Jesus is not God the Father.
Jesus is the Son of God.
Jesus is not the Father.
Jesus is not the Holy Ghost.
These are distinct, separate, different persons, okay?
I'm going to prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt from the Bible, and if you still don't
take what the Bible says, then there's no hope for you because you just don't believe
what God's Word says.
So first of all, we have to understand that when the Bible calls Jesus the Son, this is
more than just a simple title.
This is a fact that Jesus has a relationship with the Father, okay?
It's not just calling him the Son, just, you know, it's just a random name or whatever.
Bible says very clearly in 2 John, verse 3, grace be with you, mercy and peace from God
the Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father in truth and love.
So taking up this chart here, okay, the Son would be Jesus, okay?
That's again, very clear.
There's no doubt that Jesus is the Son.
But the Bible says that Jesus is the Son of the Father, okay?
No, it does not say Jesus is the Father, he is the Son of the Father.
So when we call Jesus the Son of God, we're talking about the fact that Jesus is the Son
of the Father.
And again, this is how the Trinity makes sense because the people who don't believe in the
deity of Jesus Christ, they'll say, well, you know, how can Jesus be the Son of God
and God at the same time?
Well, in the same way that John 1 says that the Word was with God and the Word was God
because the Word, the Son, was with God and he is God.
Because there's a Trinity, there's three persons who are one God, okay?
So John 10, 30, again, he says, I and my Father are one, okay?
That's referring to the fact that they are one God.
Now again, these heretics out there who believe that Jesus is the Father, they'll twist this
to say, well, no, that he's saying like, I am my Father or something, which is not what
he says.
Because there are multitudes of scriptures where Jesus makes it very clear that he is
not the Father, that he is different from the Father.
A lot of these are in the book of John.
So I'm going to go through a lot of these verses.
Again, if you want to follow along your Bible, you're definitely welcome to do that either
if you're watching right now or watching later.
But it says in John 5, 22, I think this is one of the clearest scriptures on this and
there's plenty of others.
But John 5, 22, Jesus says, for the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment
unto the Son.
So ask yourself this, according to the Bible, is Jesus the judge?
Yes he is.
I mean, the Bible calls him the judge of all and the judge of all things and things like
that.
The Bible tells us very clearly that Jesus is the judge, even says right here that the
Father has committed all judgment to the Son.
So again, taking out the chart, all judgment is given to the Son.
So the Son has all judgment.
The Son is the judge.
But what does he also say about the Father?
Verse 22, for the Father judgeth no man.
So he does not judge.
He does judge.
So there are people who say that the Father is the Son, that these are the same.
That would make no sense because he says the Father does not judge, but the Son does judge.
The only way that could be true is if they are not each other.
Another scripture on this would be John 17.
I might be jumping back and forth a little bit throughout the rest of this video, just
bear with me, because there's a lot of scriptures on this all throughout the New Testament.
But John 17 is an example where Jesus is praying to the Father.
Now again, if Jesus is the Father, that would mean he would have to pray to himself, which
makes no sense.
It says in John 17, verse 1, these words spake Jesus and lifted up his eyes to heaven and
said, Father, thy hour is come.
Glorify thy son that thy son also may glorify thee.
Again, Jesus is the Son.
Now he doesn't say, Father, glorify thyself.
He says, Father, glorify thy son.
Because as it says in 2 John 3, Jesus Christ is the Son of the Father.
He says, as thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life
to as many as thou hast given him.
And this is life eternal, that they may know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ
whom thou hast sent.
Now again, if Jesus Christ is the same as the Father, because he's praying to the Father,
saying you're the only true God, and eternal life is not just knowing you, but it's knowing
Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent, that shows that Jesus Christ, who the Father has sent,
is not the same as the Father who he is praying to.
Again, very clear.
Ephesians chapter one.
I'll be back in the book of John later.
I just want to touch on a few other points first.
Because I think the book of John is the clearest outlining of the Trinity.
Ephesians chapter one, verse 17, the Bible says in Ephesians chapter one, verse 17, that
the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory.
Okay, so first of all, the Bible tells us that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ.
Now this is interesting because the Bible tells us already that Jesus is God, but it
also calls the Father the God of Jesus.
We'll see throughout this that Jesus constantly shows that the Father is greater than him.
He says in John 14, 28, the Father is greater than I.
And it says in John 20, when Jesus rises from the dead, he says that he will ascend to, he
says he's going to ascend to my Father and thy Father, and he says to my God and thy
God. Then also in Hebrews 1.8, where the Father says to the Son, thy throne of God is
forever and ever, a scepter of righteousness, a scepter of thy kingdom, it says therefore
God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
So it calls Jesus God.
But then it also says that the Father is the God of Jesus Christ, just as it says right
here in Ephesians 1 17, that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is the God of our Lord
Jesus Christ, the Father, because the Son submits himself to the Father, even though he
is equal with God, according to Philippians 2, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and
revelation and the knowledge of him, the eyes of your understanding being enlightened, that
you may know what is the hope of his calling and what the riches of the glory of his
inheritance of the saints.
And what is that? What is the exceeding greatness of his power to us who believe according
to the working of his mighty power, which he wrought in Christ when he raised him from
the dead and set him in his own right hand of the heavenly places?
Again, another scripture talking about Jesus being set on the right hand of God.
OK, so the Father, according to Ephesians 1, is the God of our Lord Jesus Christ.
OK, that's Jesus. That's the Son.
OK, he is the God of him.
And he, according to the Bible right here, raised him from the dead and set him on his
own right hand. OK, so again, the Father is not the Son.
Jesus is not the Father.
Very clear.
Matthew, chapter 20.
Verse 23, I believe it is.
Twenty three.
Matthew 20, verse 23, and he said that to them, you shall drink indeed in my cup and be
baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with, but to sit on my right hand and on my
left is not mine to give.
But it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my father.
So Jesus says, you know, that privilege of being of having to sit on my right hand, that's
not given from me.
It's given from those who are prepared of my father.
So, again, the modalists say that Jesus is the father.
So that would make Jesus a liar if he said, well, it's not, you know, given of me, but
it's rather, you know, prepared by the father.
But the modalists believe that the son and the father are the same.
This would only make sense in the Trinity.
The father is a distinct person from the son.
The father can give this to the disciples, but he says that it's not given to me.
That's Jesus talking. That's the son of God talking there.
OK, another clear scripture or another clear thing I want to talk about is the fact that
the Bible tells us that God can be seen and cannot be seen at the same time.
Now, if there's only one person and Jesus is all three of those persons, as this false
side of not the Trinity believes, OK, if this is true, whether it be modalism or this
other weird doctrine that only like, you know, a handful of people believe, then this
would make no sense for people to not see God, for it to be impossible to see God and
being possible to see God at the same time.
OK, let me give you an example all the way back in the book of Exodus, Exodus chapter 33.
First of all, the Bible tells us that Moses spoke to God face to face.
Exodus 33, verse 11.
And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face as a man speaketh unto his friend.
A few chapters before this, in Exodus 24, the Bible tells us that the elders who were
on Mount Sinai, it says that they saw the God of Israel.
OK, but then down in verse 20, God says, Thou canst not see my face, for there shall
no man see me and live.
Now, how are these things reconciled?
They're not contradictory.
It's just a matter of do you believe in the Trinity?
Because guess what?
When they saw God, that was them seeing the sun.
But the Bible makes it very clear that no man can see the Father.
And this is taught in the New Testament.
The Bible makes it very clear that it is the Son which is seen, but the Father cannot be
seen. OK, John 1.18.
John 1.18, no man hath seen God at any time.
OK, now let me ask you this, if Jesus is the Father as a modalist claim, then how would
this statement be true?
Because they believe that God is one person.
So for them, no man has seen God and only at any time would have to be that no man seen
Jesus either. Of course, that's ridiculous.
Jesus walked on the serve two thousand years ago.
And the Bible tells us that if any man, I'm just paraphrasing, but it says that if any
man denies that Jesus came in the flesh, that that person is an antichrist, you know,
that they have not God.
OK, so somebody who denies that Jesus came in the flesh, that Jesus was actually here
and was seen a man, et cetera, that person is denying foundational truths of the Bible.
And modalists are also denying that Jesus is the Son of God, because the Bible defines,
again, what that means, that he's the son of the Father.
OK, that the Father is his authority.
OK, for them to make him the same as the Father would be to deny the sonship of Jesus
Christ would be damnable heresy.
And that's why I believe modalists are not saved.
And I have questions about these people's salvation, too, but I'm not sure if that
doctrine is, you know, bad enough yet, because it's really unclear what they believe.
It's a stupid thing that only like five people on Instagram believe.
But anyway, John one eighteen, again, no man has seen God at any time.
The only begotten son, which is in the bosom of the father.
So it's talking again about the father when it says God in the first phrase there, it
says he hath declared it.
So the son, Jesus Christ, has declared the father.
Now, again, how could somebody not see the father, not see God the father, but see the
son and the son declaring the father if they are the same?
Again, makes no sense.
Completely ridiculous.
Another example, John six forty six, where Jesus makes it clear that it's impossible to
see the father, he says not that any man hath seen the father, save he which is of God.
He has seen the father.
Now, again, he's speaking to the Jews here who are looking right at him.
OK, they're looking right at him.
He says not that any man has seen the father.
So, again, the modalists are making Jesus into a liar because he says that nobody's seen
the father if they're looking right at him.
So the modalists say that Jesus is the father and yet somehow no man has seen the father.
See, that does again, doesn't make any sense.
But it does make sense if you understand that Jesus, the son, is not the father.
OK, I don't know.
I mean, it's just every single time it just makes so much sense with the Trinity, but
it's just completely contradictory.
They're making Jesus a liar if you have to believe in this foolish side of modalism or
believing that Jesus is three persons or whatever the false doctrine out there.
First Timothy, chapter six.
First Timothy, chapter six, verse 16, another clear scripture that nobody can see God,
particularly talking about the father.
First Timothy six, verse 16, who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no
man can approach unto, whom no man hath seen nor can see, to whom be honor and power,
everlasting. Amen.
Now, again, if that were talking about Jesus, because the modalists believe that Jesus that
God is only one person.
OK, and that that person is Jesus alone.
OK, they are Jesus only kind of group.
So if that doctrine were true, OK, then this statement would be saying that nobody's ever
seen Jesus, nor can they see Jesus.
That's ridiculous because, again, he was on the earth two thousand years ago.
The Bible has several references to people seeing him, and it even talks about people
seeing him when he comes in the clouds of the rapture.
OK, it says in Revelation chapter one, verse seven, you know, that every eye shall see
him, every eye shall see him.
Yet First Timothy one sixteen says, whom no man hath seen nor can see.
If this were talking about Jesus, that would be contradictory.
But it's not talking about Jesus is talking about the father.
OK, no man hath seen the father as Jesus himself made clear in John five and John six
and John eight as well.
No man has seen the father.
And no man can see the father, but we have seen the son and it is possible to see the
son. OK, understand that this is Paul talking here.
OK, he was writing the book of First Timothy.
Paul, who literally saw Jesus on the road to Damascus, Jesus appeared to him.
He saw Jesus with his own eyes.
If you were talking about Jesus, this would be ridiculous.
OK, it's not talking about Jesus is talking about the father, which shows that Jesus is
not God the father.
I don't know what's so hard to understand about this.
Titus two thirteen, another clear scripture where it talks about the return of Jesus, it
says, looking for that blessed hope and the glorious appearing of the great God and our
Savior, Jesus Christ.
Now, again, if.
That scripture, those scriptures talking about no man seeing God, we're referring to
Jesus, then how could we look forward to the appearing of the great God and our Savior,
Jesus Christ, because Jesus Christ is going to appear in the clouds, every eye shall see
him. But the Bible never tells us about us seeing the father at the rapture.
It's Jesus Christ who will come back.
OK, so again, the Bible tells us that there is a person who we cannot see that person is
the father. But at the same time, we can see God because Jesus has a body and Jesus has
been seen and will be seen when he comes again.
So that means that the father is not the son to say the son is the father.
To say Jesus is the father is to say that it is possible to see the father when the
Bible tells us that no man hath seen nor can see a very clear going to John chapter
eight. I'll be in the book of John for a little bit now.
Really, the most proofs of the Trinity are found here in the book of John, Jesus says in
John chapter eight, verse 16.
And yet if I judge, my judgment is true, for I am not alone, but I and the father that sent
me, it is also written in law that the testimony of two men is true.
I am one that bear witness of myself and the father that sent me beareth witness of me.
OK, so again, they would be making Jesus a liar if they believe that Jesus is the father.
OK, because he says, if I judge, my judgment is true, for I am not alone, but I and the
father that sent me. So why is Jesus's judgment true?
Because he is not alone, but him and the father that sent me.
OK, because according to the law of God, the testimony of two men is true.
OK, the Bible says in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every matter be
established. That is how we know also that first John five, seven, where it says there
are three that bear record in heaven, the father, the word and the Holy Ghost, these
three are one. It's talking about three persons.
OK, because if these were not three persons, if these were just the same person, just
with different titles or different modes or different roles or whatever, like the
modus believe, then their testimony would not be true.
That record would not be valid because the Bible tells us that there need to be three,
two or three that bear witness in order for a matter to be established.
OK, so the fact that Jesus says I am not alone, but I and the father that sent me again
shows that it's not just Jesus.
It's also the father.
Now, if Jesus were the father, this would make no sense.
OK, he could not have righteous judgment.
He could not bear a true testimony if he was the same as the father.
OK, so he says, I am not alone, but the father, I and the father that sent me, he
says, I am one that bear witness of myself and the father that sent me.
OK, so the modulus would have to say, well, you know.
You know, I, you know, I am the one that bear witness of myself and, you know, I as
well, again, that's foolish.
The Bible says the testimony of two men is true in verse 17, that means there's two
persons, two men here, the father and Jesus Christ.
OK, this would be a completely ridiculous passage if they were the same person, if
Jesus was the father.
John, chapter eight, verse twenty eight, then said Jesus unto them, when you've
lifted up the son of man, then shall you know that I am he and that I do nothing of
myself, but as my father hath taught me, I speak these things and he that sent me is
with me.
The father hath not left me alone, for I do always those things that please him.
So if Jesus were the father, again, as this foolish side claims, if Jesus were the
father, then again, this would make no sense because he says he that sent me is
with me. The father hath not left me alone.
Now, how could the father even possibly leave him alone if Jesus is the father?
OK, again, it makes no sense.
And he says also, I do nothing of myself.
So when Jesus speaks and when Jesus does these miracles, it's not of himself,
according to this passage.
But, OK, it's the father that has taught him.
It's the father that gave him the ability to do these things because Jesus is not the
father. They're separate from each other.
They're distinct, different from each other.
OK, going back to John chapter five.
John chapter five, verse 30.
He says, I can of mine own self do nothing, as I hear I judge, and my judgment is just
because I seek not my own will, but the will of the father which hath sent me.
OK, so first of all, he says I can have my own self do nothing.
OK, as I hear I judge and we already saw in John eight that that's talking about.
He hears that from the father.
OK, and he says, I seek not mine own will, but the will of the father which sent me,
which shows that there's two different wills here.
OK, the father has his will and Jesus has his will.
You know, he says, you know, not my will.
But he says in the Garden of Gethsemane, Gethsemane, you know, not my will, but thine
be done. OK, he's saying that to the father.
He's praying again to the father because they have two different wills.
He says in verse 31, if I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
That goes back to what I was saying earlier with John chapter eight and first John
five, seven. OK, it says there are three that bear record in heaven, the father, the
word and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one.
OK, if all of these were the same person, they would be bearing witness of himself.
And Jesus says, if you bear witness of yourself, that witness is not true.
We know that Jesus's witness is true because it was not just the son, Jesus, who is
bearing witness. But he says also, verse thirty two, there is another that bears
witness of me. And I know that the witness which he witnessed me, witnesses of me is
true. Now he talks about John and from verses thirty three to thirty five.
But he also says in verse thirty six, but I have greater witness than that of John for
the works which the father hath given me to finish the same works that I do bear
witness of the me for witness of me that the fathers had sent me and the father
himself, which has sent me, hath borne witness of me.
You've neither heard his voice in any time nor seen his shape.
And verse thirty seven right there is another great proof that Jesus is not the
father because he says about the father, you have not you've neither heard his voice
in any time nor seen his shape.
Now, again, these people out there are saying that Jesus is God the father.
If they say Jesus is God the father, they would have to say that nobody's ever seen
Jesus's shape nor heard his voice.
He's literally speaking to the Jews in this example.
OK, right here in John five thirty six, he's speaking to the Jews, saying you have
neither heard his voice nor seen his shape.
OK, so how could Jesus be the father if he is literally speaking to them?
They're hearing his voice. They literally see his shape.
They're literally looking at him right now.
And he's saying you've not seen the father shape nor heard his voice because Jesus is
not the father. OK, this is the truth.
This is not this is ridiculous.
This contradicts the Bible.
OK, another clear example, John five forty three, he says, I am coming my father's name
and you receive me not if another shall come in his own name and you will receive.
Now, again, according to this side, they believe that the name of the father is Jesus
because they say that Jesus is just three different modes.
This side said that, you know, Jesus is three persons, that Jesus is God the father.
OK, but he says, I am coming my father's name.
And then he can trust that with somebody coming in his own name, he says, if somebody
comes in your own and their own name, him, you shall receive.
Now, they didn't receive Jesus and he did not come in his own name.
He says he come he came in his father's name.
OK, which shows that his name is not God the father.
He is distinct from God the father.
OK, as all these other scriptures show us, another clear scripture, John 12.
I could go on all day with this, like seriously, this is getting ridiculous at this
point that people believe this stupid doctrine.
But people also believe he can work your way to heaven.
So, I mean, that's another stupid doctrine.
Some people just don't care, believe what the Bible says.
So it says in John twelve forty nine, if I have not spoken of myself, but the father
which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, what I should speak.
Again, how could that be true if Jesus is the father?
He says, I have not spoken of myself, but the father, he gave me a commandment, what
to say and what to speak.
See, Jesus always distinguishes between himself and the father.
He said, I proceeded forth and came from God, neither came I of myself, but he sent
me. He says that in John eight forty two.
OK, so the father sent the son and he says, I came not of myself.
And yet there's people out there who say, well, Jesus is the father.
No, he literally said he did not come from himself, but the father sent him.
So how can he be the father if he did not come from himself?
And yet they say that the father is Jesus.
That is a contradictory statement.
That's an oxymoron. So these people out there who claim that Jesus is God, the father,
they deny the clear testimony of scripture.
They deny truly what the Bible says.
And I want to answer a few objections.
There's not really that many, but because, again, this doctrine is so foolish that
there's very few scriptures that could ever be twisted to teach such a foolish thing.
But there are some that they have tried to pull out and say, well, what about this?
Doesn't this teach that Jesus is the father?
And we'll see in just a moment that none of these do.
There's really only like three examples I can think of of scriptures that they'll use
to try to teach this foolish doctrine.
And we've already seen clearly from the Bible the doctrine of the Trinity.
OK, so already I think this is clear that this is the truth, the Trinity, OK, that
there's only one God and the Bible calls the Father God, the Bible calls the Son God,
the Bible calls the Holy Ghost God.
And the Bible makes it very clear that these are distinct from each other.
These are not each other.
They are different from each other.
That is the Trinity, three persons, one God.
There's only one God, the Lord, the Father is the Lord, Jesus is the Lord,
the Holy Ghost is the Lord, but the Father is not the Son.
The Son is not the Holy Ghost.
The Holy Ghost is not the Father.
They are different from each other. That is the Trinity. That's what we just saw clearly in the Bible
But they'll pull out something like John 14. They'll say, you know, well it says right here, you know
Jesus says in John 14 verse 9
Have I been so long time with you and yet hast thou not known me Philip?
He that hath seen me hath seen the Father and how sayest thou then show us the Father
Believest thou not that I am in the Father and the Father in me the words that I speak unto you
I speak not of myself, but the Father that dwelleth in me he doeth the works
Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father of me or else believe me for the very works sake now
What's funny? Is that this scripture that they sometimes pull out itself?
disproved modalism because he says
I speak not of myself, but the Father the twelfth in me he doeth the work
So again, he's making a distinction between him and the Father
He's saying it's not of myself just like he didn't all those other scriptures and then he says but rather it's the of the father
Right, so that shows that he's not the father
Okay, but then he doesn't say that I am the father anywhere in this scripture
Okay, he says I am in the father and the father in me. Okay, so Jesus is in the father
The father is in him according to verse 10
But we have to understand the Bible also teaches that the Holy Ghost is within us as believers
Does that make us the Holy Ghost? Of course not I'd be foolish to say such thing. Okay
Just because one is dwelling in the other does not mean that they are each other
Okay, that in fact proves the opposite because how could they dwell in each other if they are each other if this is if it's
Just one person. Okay, and
Then referring to verse 9, you know, they'll say well he said he that has seen me has seen the father
So that was mean that Jesus is the father
Well that goes all the way back to what we established at the beginning that Jesus is the express
Image of the father's person as it says in Hebrews 1 3, okay
So, how can he say he that have seen me have seen the father because he is the express image of the father's person
Okay, so that means the image or what he looks like is the same
Okay, Jesus is alike unto the father. He is equal with God
He is the image of the invisible God as it says in Colossians 1 15
So that is how Jesus can say, you know
He that has seen me have seen the father not because he is the father but because you know
The only possible way to see the father according to the Bible because no man can't see me live
Nobody can actually see the actual person of God the father
The only way to see the father is by seeing Jesus Christ not because he is the father
But because he is the image of the father which is what the Bible says in like three or four different places
Okay
Another scripture they might use is John 5 24, you know
Where Jesus says he that?
Hereth my word and believeth on him that sent me hath everlasting life
So they'll compare that with other scriptures where Jesus says you have to believe on the Sun you have to believe in me
And so they'll say well that means that the Sun sent himself, you know, Jesus is the father
But again, we have to compare scripture with scripture
And obviously these people are very ignorant of those scriptures because they do not know about John 12 44 John 12 44
Jesus says he that believeth on me believeth not on me, but on him that sent me
Okay, and he also says and he that seeth me seeth in the semi which you can compare with John 14
So again, he's distinguishing between him and him that sent him
But at the same time he's saying when you do that when you put your faith in me in reality
You're not just putting your faith in me. You're putting your faith on him that sent me which is the father
okay, again, not because they are the same person but because they are the same God because they
as Jesus is doing the things the father commanded because the word that he is speaking is what the father had told them to
Speak as it says in John 12 49, but then there's also a Matthew 10 and 40
Which is another clear scripture to show us how this makes sense
John 10 40
I'm sorry, Matthew 10 40 Matthew 10 40. It says he that receiveth you receive with me
Okay, and he that receiveth me receiveth in the semi
So just like he said in John 12 if you believe on me you believe on him that sent me
Okay, so if you believe in Jesus you also believe in the father
But he says he that receiveth you receiveth me
Does that mean that somebody does that mean that a disciple of Jesus is Jesus? No, he's just saying, you know
Because of the fact that you're following me. They're not just receiving you. They're also receiving me
He's not saying that you are that person
Okay, so I'd be a ridiculous argument to use John 5 24 as evidence that Jesus is the father
but of course we want to talk about the most obvious example I
Say a 9 6 I love Isaiah 9 6 because this is a proof of the deity of Jesus Christ
But there's one phrase in there that people will just again
You know ignore the rest of the Bible and just run with this one phrase to try to say that Jesus is God the Father
And this is the only example in the whole Bible where the Bible gives the title of father to Jesus
But I want to make it very clear that although it is giving him the title of everlasting father
It is not saying that he is God the Father because we've already seen that Jesus distinguishes himself
from God the Father many times
So what does he mean when what does the Bible mean when it says that he is the everlasting father?
Okay
verse 6
For unto us a child is born unto us a son is given and the government shall be upon his shoulder and his name shall
Be called wonderful counselor the mighty God the everlasting father the Prince of Peace of the increase of his government and peace
There shall be no end upon the throne of David and upon his kingdom to order it and to establish it
With judgment and with justice from henceforth even forever the zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this
so this is obviously talking about Jesus because it talks about a son being born and it talks about how he's gonna sit on the
Throne of David and he's going to rule forever. That's Jesus Christ the Messiah
okay, but it calls him the everlasting father now in the
Context of these two verses is talking about the fact that he's going to be the ruler and the governor
It says that the government shall be upon his shoulder. Now the Bible uses the
Word father to not just refer to the sense that God the Father is the father of Jesus
But it also uses that term as a term of governance and there's proof of this later in the book of Isaiah
Let me show you an example of this Isaiah 22 verse 21
I'll start verse 20 and it shall come to pass in that day that I will call my servant
Eliakim the son of Hilkiah. Okay. So this is a human person. It says I will clothe him with thy robe and
Strengthen him with thy girdle and I will commit thy government into his hand
So right now we see the same language as used in Isaiah chapter 9 where it says the government into his hand that he's going
To govern govern and it says he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem into the house of Judah
So he's talking about Eliakim the son of Hilkiah and he's saying that you know
The government shall be upon him and he shall be a father, you know to the house of Judah now back in Isaiah 9
It says the government shall be upon his shoulder referring to Jesus and says he shall be called the everlasting father
Okay, so in that example, it's using father as a term for you know, being a ruler being a governor
He's going to be father unto the tribe of Israel just as Eliakim was the father unto
The nation of Judah, so that's all it's saying. Okay, and we know that it's not calling him God the Father because
How many scripture did I just go through like dozens and dozens and dozens showing that Jesus is not God the Father?
He's the son of the Father. Okay, if you believe Jesus is God the Father you're a heretic and you deny the Bible
As Jesus said it is not just I but I and him that sent me the testimony of two men is true
Okay, there are two persons there the Father and the Son Jesus is not three persons
Jesus is a separate person from the Father that is the Trinity if you believe anything else besides that you do not believe in the
Trinity you believe in a false man-made doctrine. Okay, so that's all I have to say. Hopefully this cleared things up
Thank you already for watching. God bless you and goodbye