Hello everybody, it's Mr. or uh, Bible Tooth 23 with another video here, uh, and I'm going
to be continuing to talk about, uh, the subject of the post-trip pre-wrath rapture and the
timing of the rapture and I began this discussion last week.
I did about an hour long video on this subject last week and I recommend that you
go and watch that first before you watch this, okay, because I'm going to be picking
up where I left off.
So if you haven't watched the first video, please go and watch that, uh, first.
So in this video I'm going to be continuing and wrapping up this discussion of, uh, end
times vile prophecy of when the rapture is, whether it's before or after the tribulation.
Here I have this timeline, uh, as I made last week and I explained that in the video
using the scriptures showing when certain things take place, that the tribulation begins
with the abomination of desolation which is in the midst of the week, then you have
the sun and the moon being darkened, then you have the day of the Lord, then you have
the wrath of God and the day of the Lord is synonymous with the rapture, okay,
so this is the timeline that is given in the Bible of when the rapture will take place,
it's after the tribulation but before, uh, God's wrath is poured out upon this earth
and it's still before the end of the seven years before the millennial kingdom.
So anyway, I want to continue, uh, first of all starting with Matthew chapter 24, which
is where I left off, uh, had talked about Matthew 24 up to verse 31, which is where
it talks about the rapture in that chapter, but I want to kind of tie up some, um,
or make it a little bit clearer that Matthew 24 is talking about the rapture.
I thought that it was already made clear, uh, in the last video because of the fact
that the whole chapter is about the coming of Christ, and of course the pre-tribbers
will say, well, the coming of Christ is Revelation 19 and not the rapture.
However, I showed that that was wrong as well because 1 Thessalonians 4.15 clearly
tells us that the rapture is called the coming of the Lord, and then I also showed
that, uh, it's not talking to the Jews, but it's talking about, uh, God's elect,
which would be his saved people, okay, Christians.
I proved that as well.
I also want to continue, uh, after verse 31 and show more of the context,
which proves that this chapter is talking about the rapture.
So it says in verse 32, I'm going to continue in verse 32 and then I'm going
to continue to read, um, most of the rest of the chapter.
Now, keep in mind, this is continuing from what Jesus has already said, uh, about the
tribulation and, and, uh, the abomination of desolation and the, uh, son of the moon
being darkened and the son of man coming in the clouds and all that, okay?
This is continuing.
He's not talking about something different now.
It's just a continual, uh, teaching from Jesus.
He's just teaching doctrine, telling his disciples of all the signs of his coming and the end
of the world, which is what they asked of at the beginning of the chapter.
So he says in verse 32, now learn a parable of the fig tree.
When his branches yet tender and putteth forth, uh, leaves, you know that summer is nigh.
So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near even at the
doors.
Surely I say unto you, this generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled.
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my word shall not pass away.
I want to focus on verse 33 where it says, so likewise when ye shall see all these
things, then ye shall know that it is near even at the doors.
Now what is he referring to when he says it?
Well remember, he's answering the question that the disciples raised at the beginning
of the chapter.
This is verse 3, where they asked him, what is the sign of thy coming, which shall be
the sign of thy coming and of the end of the world?
And so now he is answering the question, when you see all these things, know that
it is near even at the doors.
So Jesus says the sign of his coming is when the sun is darkened, when the moon
is turned to blood, the stars fall from heaven, all that kind of stuff, and then
you shall see the son of man descending in the clouds of heaven is what Jesus says.
So what are the signs of the rapture of the day of the Lord?
The exact same signs that the Old Testament told us, that the sun should be turned into
darkness and the moon into blood before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.
That's what the Old Testament said multiple times, teaching that those things are the
sign of the day of the Lord.
Now we have this chapter telling us the exact same thing, that these signs will appear
in heaven, then Jesus Christ will come.
Not at any moment, with no warning, no signs whatsoever, which is what the preachers say.
But then it says in verse 36, but if that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the
angels of heaven, but my Father only.
And what's really funny is that this is one of the two major verses that they will
use to try to teach that the rapture is imminent.
And they'll say, well, you know, no man knows the day or the hour, that means it
could take place at any time.
But then you quote from Matthew 24, 29, they say, well, that's not the rapture.
But I'm reading from verse 36 of the exact same chapter when he's referring to the exact
same event.
He hasn't changed subjects, there's nothing in the context referring to a different day
he says of that day, referring to the day when he comes.
So it's not like, well, in verse 29 to 31 he's talking about the second coming,
but verse 36 he's talking about the rapture.
He's talking about the same event.
So the pre-tribbers, if they were to use verse 36 as evidence that the rapture could
take place at any moment, then they're clearly ignoring verse 29 which says immediately
after the tribulation of those days.
So it is true that nobody knows the day or the hour, but we do know that it is after
the tribulation.
Okay, meaning we can't set a date for when it's going to take place because we don't
know when the tribulation will begin or end, obviously.
Okay, I don't know when it's going to begin, I don't know when it's going to end,
so I don't know when Jesus is going to come, but I know that when the tribulation
ends according to verse 29 is when Jesus is going to come.
Now there are some dispensationalists out there who would agree with me that it's
kind of ridiculous to use this chapter to talk about the rapture while, you know,
ignoring verse 29 and kind of just jumping around and they'll say, well, Matthew 24 has
nothing to do with the rapture and I've seen a few people here on Instagram make posts
about that saying, well, Matthew 24 has nothing to do with the rapture at all.
I've already shown that to be wrong in several ways, but from verse 37 onwards, it again
proves that this chapter is talking about the rapture, okay.
Let's read it and this is, again, another passage that pre-tribbers will use and pretty
much anybody will use when they're talking about the rapture.
It says in verse 37, but as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the
Son of Man be, for as in the days that were before the flood, they were eating
and drinking, marrying and given in marriage until the day that Noah entered into the
ark and knew not until the flood came and took them all away, so shall also the
coming of the Son of Man be.
Now that is, again, another passage that the pre-tribbers will use to support the pre-trib
rapture because they'll say, well, it's very similar to what 1 Thessalonians 5 is teaching
where it's they didn't see it coming, you know, they knew not until the flood came
and took them all away.
Now the thing is that the flood was not a picture of the tribulation, but the flood
is a picture of the wrath of God because it's God's wrath.
He's destroying the wicked sinners upon the earth in the days of Noah, okay.
That's what the flood was and it pictures the rapture in the sense that in the same
sense of what 1 Thessalonians 5 teaches that where it says they shall speak of peace and
safety then sudden destruction shall come upon them.
So it's a thief in the night to the unbelievers because they're not going to see it coming
and when it comes, it's going to be sudden destruction, it's going to be God's wrath
upon them because that's what the day of the Lord is.
I talked about that extensively in the previous video.
So again, this is another passage that they use to talk about the rapture, but
then they say that this chapter has nothing to do with the rapture.
So it's just mental gymnastics of saying, well this isn't about the rapture, but then
conveniently these few verses are about the rapture only when they're supporting or
trying to defend the preacher of rapture.
Then it says in verse 40, then shall two be in the field, the one shall be taken
and the other left.
The women shall be grinding at the mill, the one shall be taken and the other left.
Watch therefore for you know not what hour your Lord doth come, but know this that if
the good men of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have
watched and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
Therefore be ye ready for in such an hour as ye think not, the son of man cometh.
Okay I can stop there, but the point is, you see here, one person being left and
another being taken.
Now if this is referring to the coming on the white horse at the end of the seven years
in Revelation chapter 19 when Jesus sets up his kingdom, then what are they being
taken for and the other left?
That doesn't make any sense, obviously even the phrase here where it talks about one
being taken and the other left, that's where they get the phrase left behind from.
You know like the famous novel out there that promotes the preacher rapture and then
the movies and all that kind of stuff, they get it from Matthew 24.
And yet preachers will jump around, they'll say, well this is about the rapture, but
then it's not about the rapture, but then it's about the rapture again.
No it's about the same thing, it's only about one thing.
The second coming and the rapture are the same thing.
That's why Jesus is talking about the second coming in this whole chapter.
He's answering the disciples question of when he shall come, what the sign is of his coming
and he says that the sign is, well immediately after the tribulation of those days, the
sun shall be darkened, the moon shall not give her light, the stars shall fall from
heaven, the powers of heaven shall be shaken, etc.
He says then shall you see the sign of the sun and man appear in heaven.
And he says that when you see these things come to pass, then know that it is at the
door.
And he says one shall be taken and another left.
He says in verse 42, watch therefore for you know not what hour your Lord doth come.
So he's talking about the rapture here, he's talking about taking certain people
and leaving others when he comes.
What other event could that be besides the rapture?
There's nothing else talked about in the Bible where something like that would take
place.
So yes, Matthew 24 is about the rapture.
We saw in verse 31 that it talks about how there's a great sound of a trumpet and the
Lord descends from heaven and he gathers his elect, which is God's people, Christians,
not Jews, because Romans 11 teaches that there's a distinction between the election
according to grace and Israel, Colossians 3.12 and 1 Thessalonians 1 and a few other
verses in the New Testament, Romans 8.33 and a few others show that even Gentile believers
are God's elect.
So the elect is not referring to the Jews, it's just referring to believers.
So this is the rapture, whether you like it or not, I mean, in order to teach that
it's not, you have to ignore so many details in the chapter and other passages which define
certain terms that we find in Matthew chapter 24.
So anyway, now I want to go to the book of Revelation to see what the book of Revelation
says and see where we could find these events in the book of Revelation.
Oh man, the page fell out.
Oh, you know what, now that I think about it, hmm, I'm missing, I think I'm missing
a page and Revelation fell out, but anyway, I want to go to Revelation chapter 19 first
to see if Revelation 19 lines up with Matthew 24, because that's what the dispensationalists
say, or the pre-tribbers, they'll say Matthew 24 is not talking about the rapture
in verse Thessalonians 4, it's talking about the second coming at the end of the,
at the end of the, at the end of the 70th week, they say it's talking about this
event right here, when Jesus comes on the white horse, Revelation 19.
But let's see if there's any similarities whatsoever between Matthew 24, now I pretty
much read the whole passage in the previous video on this one, so just compare what we
learned from Matthew 24 with what is stated in Revelation 19.
So it says in verse 11, And I saw heaven open, and behold the white horse, and he
that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he did the
judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many
crowns, and he had a name written that no man knew but he himself, and he was
clothed with a vesture dipped in blood, and his name is called the Word
of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses,
clothed in fine linen, white and clean, and out of his mouth go with a
sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations, and he shall rule them
with the rod of iron, and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and
wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name
written, King of Kings and Lord of Lords. And I saw an angel standing in
the sun, and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in
the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of
the great God, that you may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of
captains, and the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses, and of them that
sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and
great. And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies,
gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against
his army. And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that
wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that received the
mark of the beast, and then that worshipped his image. These both were
cast alive into the lake of fire, burning with brimstone, and the
remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which
sword proceeded out of his mouth, and all the fowls were filled with their
flesh. So that's the Revelation 19 second coming, as they call it, but
there's literally not a single detail besides the fact that he's in heaven,
because he's God, which is obvious, and I guess there's an angel standing in the
sun, not angels being sent forth. I talked about Matthew 24, but there's not
a single detail in Revelation 19 that is mentioned in Matthew 24. You know,
Matthew 24 doesn't talk about Jesus being on a white horse. It doesn't talk
about the armies of the beasts being gathered to fight against Jesus. It
doesn't talk about Jesus slaying the beast, and the false prophet, and all of
their armies at Armageddon. It doesn't talk about any of these things, and vice
versa, too. Matthew 24 talks about things that don't appear in this
chapter either. You know, Revelation 19 doesn't say anything about the
preceding chapters either. Don't say anything about the sun being darkened,
the moon being turned to blood. It doesn't talk about the stars falling from
heaven. It doesn't talk about Jesus descending in the clouds and sending
out his angels to gather his elect together. It doesn't talk about the
great sound of a trumpet. It doesn't talk about any of those things in
Revelation 19, and yet they say that these are the exact same event with zero
proof whatsoever. The only proof that they have is that they say that the
tribulation is seven years even though the Bible never says that the
tribulation is seven years. So because they have this false idea stuck
in their head that the tribulation is seven years long, then whenever you
talk about this issue of the rapture, they'll say, well, the second coming
talked about in Matthew 24 since it says after the tribulation, that's at the
end of the seven years. But the problem is the Bible never says that the
tribulation is seven years long. You know what it does say, though? It says
that it begins at the abomination of desolation according to Matthew 24.
Remember in Matthew 24 verse 15 he says, when ye shall see the abomination of
desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, he says, at that time there
shall be great tribulation. Then he says immediately after the tribulation
shall the sun be darkened, the moon shall not give her light, and etc. Okay.
Now when do those things take place in the chronology of the book of
Revelation? It does not take place at the very end in Revelation 19. It takes
place much much earlier before the Millennial Kingdom, sometime in the
middle. I'm not going to be dogmatic about when exactly because we don't know
for a hundred percent for sure, but definitely before the end of the seven
years when the sun is dark and at the day of the Lord is or when the
rapture is, but it's before God's wrath. And we can see this in
Revelation chapter six where there are actual parallels between Matthew 24
and this chapter. So I'm gonna have to look this up because I have some
damage to my Bible so like this passage is... I can't read this passage but
anyway. So it says in Revelation chapter 6. Now for sake of time I'm not
gonna go through all of this chapter but I would first of all like to point
out that verses 1 to 11 of Revelation chapter 6 coincide perfectly with the
first part of Matthew 24. Because when Jesus is asked the question by his
disciples, what are the sign of thy coming, first he talks about the
nations rising against King or nation against nation, kingdom against kingdom,
the famines, the pestilences, the earthquakes, the beginning of sorrows, how
they're all killed for his name's sake, the great tribulation. Those are the
things he talks about and that's what the Bible talks about in Revelation 6 in
that order from Revelation 6 verse 1 to verse 11. The first five seals. It's
conquest and then war and then famine and then pestilence and then death by
pestilence and the beasts of the earth and with the sword and with hunger
and then the fifth seal is the the tribulation of those who are slain for
the Word of God and then the sixth seal is exactly what is talked about in
Matthew 24 29 as taking place after the tribulation. It says and I beheld, this
is Revelation 6 verse 12, and I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal and
lo there was a great earthquake and the sun became black as sackcloth of
hair and the moon became his blood and the stars of heaven fell into the
earth even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs when she is shaken of a
mighty wind and the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together and
every mountain and island were moved out of their places and the kings of
the earth and the great men and the rich men and the chief captains and
the mighty men and every bond man and every free man hid themselves in
the dens and in the rocks of the mountains and said to the mountains
and rocks fall on us and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on
the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb for the great day of his wrath
is come and who shall be able to stand. So first we see in verse 12 and 13 the
sun became black as sackcloth of hair and the moon became his blood.
Joel 2 31 the sun shall be targeted darkness and the moon into blood before
the great terrible day of the Lord come. So according to that at this point when the
sixth seal is broken the day of the Lord or the rapture according to 1st
Thessalonians 5 2 has not taken place yet because this is before the day of
the Lord come. So according to the Bible the rapture has not even taken
place yet but there has been this conquest and this great war and this
great famine and a fourth of the earth being killed by these diseases and
the war and everything and then the tribulation the persecution of God's
people with the fifth seal those things all have already taken place
before the rapture has happened. And then you also see it says the verse
13 and the stars of heaven fell unto the earth even as a fig tree casteth
her untimely figs. That is what is also mentioned in Matthew 24 29 where
it says the stars shall fall from heaven and then it says the powers of
the heaven shall be shaken. So all these signs in heaven of the sun being
darkened the moon being turned to blood the stars falling from heaven
that takes place only or it's talked about only really three times in the
Bible in Joel 2 31 where it tells us that this is before the day of the
Lord. Matthew 24 where it says it's after the tribulation and then
Revelation 6 which shows us the the timeline that it's after the fifth seal
but it's before the trumpets and this and the the vials of God's wrath
because that is God's wrath that is the day of the Lord the trumpets and
the vials but the first five seals that's the well that the fifth seal
particularly is the Great Tribulation but that's the first part of this
timeline okay the first five seals is in the first part of this timeline
then you have the abomination desolation then you have the believers being
killed the the Great Tribulation Jesus talks about in Matthew 24 because it
says in a verse 21 that then shall be Great Tribulation then the context
that's at the time of the abomination desolation so it takes place at the
abomination desolation in the midst of the in the midst of the week so in
the middle then you have that tribulation then after the tribulation
the Sun is darkened the moon has turned to blood this is the sixth seal
right here okay and I'll get to right here in just a moment but the
point is that the rapture all these events that take place that precede the
day of the Lord according to the Bible they don't take place at the
beginning of the book of Revelation and Revelation 4 like the preacher per se
and I'll get to that in a moment because they will say that Revelation 4
verses 1 to 2 is the rapture and I'll prove that wrong in a second but the
point is that the Bible shows us that it takes place in Revelation
chapter 6 so if you're wondering where in the book of Revelation is the
rapture it's in Revelation chapter 6 because these are the signs that the
Bible says will precede the day of the Lord first Thessalonians 5 tells us
that the day of the Lord is another name for the rapture even the
pre-tribbers agree about that and we talked about that in the last video
then it says in Matthew 24 that these same signs are after the
tribulation then you see also in verse verses 16 and 17 it says verse
17 for the great day of his wrath has come and who shall be able to stand so
remember the day of the Lord is the day of God's wrath according to Isaiah 13
Joel 1 15 Zephaniah 1 14 to 15 a few other verses in the Old Testament as
well as in 1st Thessalonians 5 it shows us that the day of the Lord is
when God's wrath is expressed onto this wicked world and he destroys
sinners he punishes this world for their iniquity as it says in Isaiah
13 so these people who are hiding from the face of God it says fallen us and
hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne now first of all
that implies that they see his face okay now how else would they see his
face well you know what what sense would this statement make if Jesus is
not coming at this time because they say hide us from the face of him that
sitteth on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb well the reason why
they say hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne is because
at the beginning of Revelation in Revelation 1 7 it says that every eye
shall see him now the pre-turbers believe that that is only referring
to the second coming but these people exclaim that they want to hide
themselves from the face of him that sitteth on the throne and then they
say the great day of his wrath has come and who shall be able to stand so
the great day of his wrath does not come until after the Sun and the moon are
darkened just like to third Joel 2 31 teaches but then according to Matthew
24 that's after the tribulation that still lines up with Revelation 6
because the tribulation happened with the fifth seal already and then I'll
prove it further when we get to Revelation chapter 7 I feel like I'm
kind of jumping around a bit hopefully this isn't too confusing I'm trying to
simplify it I'm trying to make it understandable I'm trying to address as
many things as I can in this video but you know if I don't get to everything or
if I'm not able to explain it as well as I could have I'm sorry I'm just
trying to do the best I can here the Revelation 4 that's where the
pre-tribbers will say that the rapture takes place in the book of Revelation
you know they'll just kind of ignore Revelation 6 and that's not really an
important event to them even though if you compare Scripture with Scripture as
the Bible tells you to do it's very clear that Revelation 6 is the time of
the rapture but uh they'll say well it takes place in Revelation chapter 4
and this is their their verse verses 1 verse 1 I'm just gonna read verse 1
but then we'll look at verse 2 because that helps us to understand how they're
completely misinterpreting this so it says in verse 1 after this I looked
and behold a door was open in heaven and the first voice which I heard was
as it were of a trumpet talking with me which said come up hither and I will
show thee things which must be hereafter so according to them that's the
rapture now it's so funny how they the dispensational is they'll say like oh
we're spiritualizing everything you know we they'll say well they take the
Bible literally they believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible and
they say it's consistently literal as well but then they'll attack people
like us and say that we spiritualize everything and make everything in
allegory when that's literally exactly what they are doing with Revelation 4
and then it says in verse 2 immediately I was in the spear and behold
the throne was set in heaven and one sat on the throne so what's taking
place in these two verses the literal interpretation is that John is with
Jesus if you read the context in Revelation chapter 1 Jesus told him
back in Revelation chapter 1 write the things which thou has seen of the
things which are and the things which shall be hereafter in verse 19 so he
wrote the things which are seen in verse which he has seen in chapter 1
then the things which are in chapters 2 and 3 which are the messages that
Jesus gives to the seven churches in Asia and now in chapter 4 verse 1 he
says come up hither and I will show thee things which must be hereafter so
John is now going to receive the revelation the visions of the end times
of the future the things which must be hereafter okay that's what's taking
place so a voice calls to him from heaven it's a it's a voice okay as it
were of a trumpet so it's not a trumpet but it's as it were of a
trumpet like a loud sound like like in Isaiah where it says lift up thy voice
like a trumpet it's a simile meaning that he didn't actually hear a trumpet
sounding it was somebody speaking to him loudly telling him come up hither I
will show thee things which must be hereafter and immediately he says I was
in the spirit so it's not that he's brought up to heaven in the body but
he's brought up in the spirit and behold the throne was set in heaven and
once sat on the throne so the literal interpretation is that John is
being brought up in the spirit to heaven to see visions from God of what
must be hereafter that's one person being called up by a voice no mention of
Jesus coming no mention of an actual trumpet no mention of every believer
getting being caught up or of a resurrection no mention of it being
taken place so that we can be saved from tribulation let which is what they
say it's just John at this time in the first century AD being caught up to
heaven in the spirit not bodily to receive revelation from God that's the
literal interpretation they're the ones that are spiritualizing it that are
completely twisting it from what it actually says and then what's even
more ridiculous is that a few verses later verse 20 verse 4 yeah and in
verse 4 it talks about 4 and 20 elders sitting clothed in white raiment and
they had on their heads crowns of gold they'll say well you know this
represents the raptured Church okay even though it only says that there's
24 of them they'll say well even though there's only 24 that represents
the raptured Church that represents every believer so you know they're not
interpreting the Bible literally there so when the Bible says that there's
24 of them I believe that there's 24 of them but they they believe that
there's like 24 billion or whatever I don't know they believe that that just
represents the raptured Church with no evidence nothing in the context that
tells them that it's just because they said so the rapture does not take place
in Revelation 4 that's not even what the chat the verses are talking
about John is not caught up in the body and it's not every believer being
caught up he's not seeing a vision of the rapture he himself is being brought
up to receive visions of the future the time when he sees the rapture is in
Revelation chapter 7 so let's go to Revelation chapter 7 don't have that
either okay revelation chapter 7 so I think we've established that the day of
the Lord is the rapture but the day of the Lord and all those events that
proceeded take place in Revelation 6 not back in Revelation 4 okay so this is a
little bit into the timeline already this isn't at the very beginning when
the Covenant is made with the Antichrist making the Covenant talked
about in the book of Daniel so Revelation chapter 7 hold on a second
okay verse 9 now remember the context here in Revelation chapter 6 he had the
Sun darkened the moon turn into blood the stars fall from heaven then the
wicked of this world retreat into caves and the rocks and dens and etc and
they say to the rocks and the mountains fallen us and hide us from the
face of him that sitteth on the throne from the wrath of the Lamb for
the great of his wrath is common who shall be able to stand okay that is
what is just taking place at the sixth seal now it says in verse 9 of
Revelation 7 after this I beheld and lo a great multitude which no man
could number of all nations and kindreds and people and tongues stood
before the throne and before the Lamb clothed with white robes and palms in
their hands I cried with a loud voice saying salvation to our God which
sit at the palm of the throne and unto the Lamb and all the angels stood
round about the throne and about the elders and the four beasts and fell
before the throne on their faces and worshiped God saying Amen blessing and
glory and wisdom and Thanksgiving and honor and power and might be unto our God
forever and ever Amen and one of the elders answered saying unto me what are
these which are arrayed in white robes and whence came they and I said
unto them sir thou knowest and he said to me these are they which came out of
great tribulation and have washed the robes and made them white in the blood
of the Lamb so all of a sudden John sees this great multitude which no man
could number of all nations kindreds and peoples and tongues okay and they
say salvation to our God which sit upon the throne and to unto the Lamb
and they worship they worship God at that point they sing praises unto him
and then this one of the elders asked John what are these which are
arrayed in white robes and he says sir thou knowest and it gives him the
answer he says these are they which came out of great tribulation so all of a
sudden right after all these events take place in Revelation 6 of the Sun
being dark and the moon being turned to blood the stars falling from heaven
right after that there's this great multitude that nobody can number so
possibly billions of people just all the sudden just appear in heaven arrayed
in white robes with palms on their hands and now they're in heaven they
sing praises unto God and the and the elder says that they were taken out
of great tribulation meaning that they were in great tribulation so does that
fit with Matthew 24 it absolutely does because Matthew 24 tells us that we
will go through tribulation but it says after the tribulation the Sun
shall be darkened and the moon shall be turned into blood and then shall the
sign of the Son of Man appear in heaven it says that then he shall
gather his elect from one hand into the heaven to the other okay that's
just a paraphrase I don't have that memorized exactly but he gathers his
elect he takes them out of this world after the tribulation the tribulation
is cut short as it says in verse 22 except those days shall be shortened
there shall no flesh be saved but for the elect's sake those days shall
be shortened okay and then comes the wrath of God which is what begins in
chapter 8 where it says in chapter 8 verse 1 and when he'd opened the seventh
seal there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour and I saw the
seven angels which stood before God and to them were given seven trumpets
and another angel came and stood at the altar having a gold censer and
there's given unto him much incense that he should offer it with the
prayers of all Saints upon the golden altar which is before the throne etc
etc and then we see from verses 6 to the end the first four trumpets that
are blown and then God starts raining fire from heaven etc okay so that is
when God's wrath begins we have the same timeline there's the tribulation
the fifth seal the sixth seal in between the sixth and the seventh and
then as soon as the seventh seal is broken then you have God's wrath the
day of God's wrath the day of the Lord okay the rapture takes place
right here okay the rapture takes place after the Sun the moon or
darken you have the face of him that's it if on the throne appears they hide
because they know that the day of God's wrath has begun and then all the
sudden a great multitude appears in heaven why because they were gathered
together they were raptured out as the Bible says they would be at the
day of the Lord I don't know how much clearer it can get but it's pretty
clear so but then they'll say you know well you know we're not supposed
to go through tribulation the Bible never promises us that we will go through
tribulation but yes it actually does you see the Bible tells us over and
over again that we will not face God's wrath it says in Revelation not
Revelation Romans 5 9 much more than being saved or much more than being
justified by his blood we shall be saved from wrath through him it says in
first Thessalonians 5 9 God hath not appointed us to wrath but to obtain
salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ so there's no doubt that we won't go
through through this okay why because the great multitude is appeared in
heaven they were taken out of great tribulation so yes they were in great
tribulation they're not going to go through the wrath because they're not
appointed to this but they will go through tribulation why because these
are two different things and I can't understand why pre-tribbers don't
understand that they think that this whole timeline is both tribulation and
wrath at the exact same time as if those mean the exact same thing but
they don't the word tribulation means great trouble or persecution and the
word wrath means the expression of anger okay when we talk about God's
wrath we mean how God is angry with the sinners of this world and he's
going to destroy them and bring terrible punishments upon them as is talked
about in Isaiah 13 it says he will destroy the sinners out of the land
and he will punish the world for their iniquity etc that is the day of God's
wrath but that is not the tribulation this is not God punishing believers
this is the world hating believers and persecuting them and this is God
punishing unbelievers for all their wickedness as well as persecuting his
people but the Bible says in Acts chapter 14 verse 22 is a very clear
verse that tells us that we as Christians will go through tribulation
there is not a single verse in the Bible that tells us that we will not
face persecution or tribulation in fact the book of 1st Peter half of
that book is talking about the fact that we will go through tribulation and
that we should rejoice over that fact and not be worried but it says in 1st
Acts chapter 14 verse 22 confirming the souls of the disciples and
exhorting them to continue in the faith and that we must through much
tribulation enter into the kingdom of God oh but God will never do such a
thing you know you know they like to use all these phrases that make no
sense whatsoever if you actually define things a biblical way but you
know that's all they're they're left with just these kind of
repetitive phrases like they'll say well God is not a wife beater okay
which by the way there's no such thing as a universal Church anyway and
the church isn't the isn't the bride of Christ according to Revelation 21 the
New Jerusalem is the bride of Christ but uh that's another subject but
anyway they'll say well you know he's not a wife beater so therefore he's not
gonna let his people go through the tribulation but the problem is that the
tribulation is not God persecuting anybody that's the world persecuting
Christians that's why it tells us in Acts 14 verse 22 very clearly that we must
through we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of
God and it also teaches in John 16 33 in John 16 33 it again says Jesus says
in the world you shall have tribulation but be of good cheer I have overcome
the world I didn't think about that a little bit but he says in the world
he shall have tribulation he doesn't say don't worry God is gonna
rescue from you from all tribulation you're not gonna go through any trouble
you're not gonna go through any hardships the Bible never promises us
that and yet that's what they continue to say they say well God would never
let us go through that yes he will and that's what the Bible teaches it doesn't
matter if you like it or not that's what the Bible teaches it never says
that we won't go through tribulation it says we won't go through God's wrath
but God's wrath is different than the tribulation that's why the Bible says
this stuff takes place after the tribulation in Matthew 24 and then
the day of God's wrath is the day of the Lord so the day of the Lord
doesn't happen until after the tribulation is over but the day of the
Lord is God's wrath so this is not God's wrath I don't know what's so
difficult to understand about that but they just can't get it through their
head then we see also it's taught very clearly in Revelation chapter
chapters 12 and 13 that it is the the devil who is behind all the
persecution and he's using the beast and it tells us about tells us about the
the wrath of the devil of Satan when he comes down to earth as opposed to the
wrath of God that he's angry with us and he's trying to destroy us but
it's not God who's doing that
ok so revelation chapter 12 verse 12 says therefore rejoice ye heavens and he
that dwell in them will to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea
for the devil is come down unto you having great wrath because he knoweth
that he had but the short time and it says in verse 17 and the dragon was
Roth with a woman and went to make war with the remnant of her seed which
keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ so those
are Christians not Jews and then it says in Revelation 13 7 and this this
is ok before I get to this this is so funny how the pre-tribbles will say
well the the book of Revelation is about the Jews and the tribulation is
for the Jews because the church is never mentioned in the book of
relation after chapter 3 neither is the word you see the thing is that they do
this like hyper literal kind of thing where they said because they believe
that like the church it's almost like they think that the church is the
only term that can ever refer to believers in the Bible so they say well
the word churches and in Revelation so therefore it's not talking about the
church but it does use other terms to refer to believers in the book of
Revelation for example those who have the testimony of Jesus Christ in
Revelation 12 17 so those are Christians people who actually believe
what Jesus had said but then another thing is that the word Jew does not
appear after Revelation chapter 3 either the only time the word Jew appears in
Revelation at all is in Revelation 2 9 and 3 9 where it calls them the
synagogue of Satan and yet they still say well it's about the Jews and then
they might say well you know it talks about the 144,000 which are not Jews
the 144,000 are Israelites only 12,000 of those are Jews those are the
tribe of Judah the word Jew comes from the tribe of Judah most of those
tribes do not exist anymore because the 144,000 are not people are not modern
day Jews as they call them who's all of a sudden convert to Christianity
they're Old Testament Saints because most of those tribes that are listed
don't exist anymore okay then Revelation 14 talks about the 144,000
being in heaven on Mount Zion with the lamb etc so they'll say well you
know it doesn't talk about the Jews therefore or it doesn't talk about the
church therefore it's about the Jews what doesn't talk about the Jews either
but it actually does talk about believers being persecuted going through
tribulation in Revelation 13 7 it says it was given unto him to make
war with the Saints and to overcome them and the power was given him over
all kindreds and tongues and nations so it says about the Beast that he
made war with the Saints now who are the Saints the Saints are those
that are sanctified in Christ Jesus read 1st Corinthians 1 2 it says that all
that call upon the name of the Lord are called to be Saints okay so those
who have called upon the name of the Lord those who are saved they are
God's Saints and those are the ones who are going to face persecution and
going to face this war with the Antichrist okay so yes we will go
through tribulation the Bible never says we won't the Bible specifically tells
us that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God it also
tells us very clearly that the Beast will make war with the Saints and that
the dragon is wroth with the remnant of the woman see which are those who
keep the commands of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ
there are a few other points I want to make here I think this timeline is
pretty clear I think I made this pretty clear I don't think I need this
anymore well actually no you know what I think the next portion I will need this
but I'm almost done I just want to tie up a few other draw a few other make
a few other points I don't know where I was going with that but 2nd
Thessalonians chapter 2 is where I want to go next so 2nd Thessalonians
chapter 2 is another passage which proves that the rapture is after the
tribulation but it's funny because they will use it to try to support the
preacher of rapture as well we'll see what I mean so first it says in
verse 1 Revelation or 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 verse 1 now we
beseech you brethren by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and by our
gathering together unto him that you be not soon shaken in mind or be troubled
neither by spirit nor by word nor by letter us from us as that the day of
Christ is at hand let no man deceive you by any means for that day
shall not come except there come a falling away first and the man of sin
be revealed the son of perdition who opposed it that exalted himself above
all that is called God or that is worshipped so that he as God sit in
the temple of God showing himself that he is God so it says verse verse 1 we
are introduced to what this subject is the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and
our gathering together unto him now notice that that's the same language
that's used in in Matthew 24 about the gathering of the elect and since he
says our gathering together unto him we know that this isn't like they
they can't use something like we'll just talk about the Jews or something
because it says our he's talking to the Thessalonians Gentiles saying our
gathering together unto him and he says that the day of Christ is he
teaches that the day of Christ is not at hand he says not to be shaken
in mind from anybody saying that the day of Christ is at hand for that day
shall not come except there come a falling away first and that man of
sin be revealed the son of perdition who opposes exalted himself above all
that is called God so am I on YouTube to going live I'm not Wendy probably
should have done that actually oh well I've made other videos about the
rapture on my youtube channel this is just a Instagram thing for now but
anyway where was I anyway so here is the day of Christ the day of the Lord
now some fools might say well you know they're they're two different
things because you know Christ and Lord is spelled differently I've actually
heard people say that before but guess what Christ is the Lord so the day
of Christ and the day of the Lord is the exact same thing okay when it
says the day of Christ okay who is Christ he's the Lord so here we have the
day of Christ it says that that day which is the rapture according to first
thessalonians 5 as I proved in the last video that day shall not come
except there come a falling away first and the man of sin be revealed
now when is the man of sin revealed over here the abomination of desolation
so he's saying that the rapture cannot take place here because this must come
first the abomination desolation when the man of sin sits in the temple of
God declaring himself to be God now there's not even a temple that exists
right now so he can't come at any moment okay you know even if the
Antichrist comes into power of some sort he's not gonna be revealed as the
Antichrist until he sits in the temple of God and shows himself to be God
there is no temple of God so he's not gonna come at any moment because the
coming of our Lord Jesus Christ are gathering together unto him also known
as the day of Christ or the day of the Lord that shall not come until
this happens okay so this is gonna happen first then this takes place
just like we see here in second Thessalonians 2 but then they'll say
well I've actually heard somebody say that the falling away is referring to
to believers falling away from the earth which is just ridiculous because first
of all then the statement would be completely meaningless because it says
that day the day of Christ shall not come except there cometh dolling away
first how is the day of according to first Thessalonians 5 the day of the
Lord is when the rapture takes place so basically would be saying the
rapture will not come until the rapture comes first that doesn't make any sense
that's a meaningless statement so obviously that's not what it's saying
it tells us what must take place and it doesn't just say falling away by
the way it says the man of sin be revealed the son of perdition who
opposed and exalt himself above all that it's called God so until that
takes place until there come a falling away which is an apostasy plus the
man of sin being revealed the Beast coming into power as it talks about
Revelation chapter 13 until that takes place our Lord Jesus Christ will not
come we will not be gathered together unto him and there will not be the day
of the Lord or the rapture okay this must take place first before
this according to 2 Thessalonians 2
but the next thing that they'll use is verse 6 and 7 which they'll try to use
to prove the pre-trib rapture it says in verse 6 and now you know what
withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time for the mystery of iniquity
doth already work only he who now letteth will let until he be taken out
of the way now in order for now they say that what this means is that
the Holy Spirit must be taken out of this world before the coming of the
Antichrist because it says now you know what withholdeth that he might be
revealed in his time for the mystery of iniquity doth already work only he
who now letteth will let until he be taken out of the way okay and then
shall that big wick be revealed whom the Lord shall not or whom the Lord
shall consume with the spirit of mouth so the wicked that's referred to
in verse 8 is of course the Antichrist the beast the man of sin and they say
well see look the man of sin is not even gonna come until he who now
letteth will let is taken out of the way or he who withholdeth as he's
called in verse 6 now based on zero evidence whatsoever they'll say that
he that withholdeth or he that letteth they'll say that that refers to the
Holy Spirit or the Holy Ghost then basically what they'll say as well
that's referring to the the spirit indwell Church since you know we as
believers have the spirit they'll say though that's us being taken out of the
world and therefore the Holy Spirit being taken out of the way so that the
Antichrist can come into power but first of all that makes no sense
because the Bible clearly teaches that the Holy Spirit is omnipresent it says
in Psalm 139 wither shall I go from thy presence and wither shall I flee
from thy thy spirit if I make my if I send into heaven behold thou art there
if I make my bed in hell behold thou art there so if believers were taken
out of this world then that wouldn't get rid of the Holy Spirit number one
number two they believe that Jews are going to convert to Christ in the
tribulation so how does that make any sense if you know because if they
convert to Christ in the tribulation they would have the Spirit too so how
does that get rid of the Spirit the Spirit is omnipresent okay so so that's
just a completely foolish interpretation but not only that but nothing in the
context mentions the Spirit of all in fact for verse 1 to verse 13 or to
verse 12 there is absolutely no mention of the Spirit or the Holy Ghost
at all it doesn't start talking about the Spirit until verse 13 when it
changes the subject it talks about something else so in the passage about
the man of sin and the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and the day of the
Lord and all that in that whole passage it doesn't say a single thing
about the Spirit of God yet they will insist that that is what it's talking
about now they get that from the notes of CI Schofield that's what the
Schofield reference Bible teaches but they don't get back from the Bible
because if you were to just take the passage literally and interpret it for
what it actually says you would never come to the conclusion that it's talking
about the Spirit of God being removed because it doesn't say anything about
the Spirit of God being removed and he can't find another scripture that
teaches that that will take place so what is it talking about when it
talks about he that withholdeth or he who now letteth will let until he be
taken out of the way well we have to actually look at the context
because just based on simple just a way that you would read the Bible or any
book actually you would have to find something in the context either
immediately before immediately after that would tell you what it is
referring to and I there's two possibilities the less likely
possibility okay no you know what actually the less likely possibility is
not a possibility at all I just based on verse 8 but anyway what I believe
that this is referring to when it says he that with or what withholdeth that
he might be revealed in his time so what is it that is withholding the man
of sin from coming for the mystery of iniquity doth already work only he who
now letteth will let until he be taken out of the way and then shall
that wicked be revealed whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his
mouth and destroy with the brightness of his coming even him is coming is
after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders so
the man of sin is revealed in verse 8 after he that letteth or he that or
what withholdeth is taken out of the way so what must be taken out of
the way in order for the man of sin to come well let's compare scripture
with scripture and we are already read this passage already read part of it
earlier revelation chapter 12 you know for second time not gonna read the
whole passage but revelation chapter 12 talks about this war in heaven where
Michael and and the angels of heaven the hosts of heaven fight against Satan
and his angels and they are cast out of heaven and Satan comes down to the
earth having great wrath and then it talks about in the next chapter how he
gives his power unto the beast so what I believe that this is referring
to is Satan being taken out of heaven being cast out of heaven being taken
out of the way meaning that he is he's cast out of heaven he comes down to
the earth and then he gives his power and authority unto the beast
revelation chapter 13 now that makes a lot more sense if we number one we
compare with scripture as they just did that's revelation 12 and that
actually makes sense because that must happen for the Antichrist to come but
then also the context actually talks about Satan in verse 9 it talks about
how the coming of the wicked one is after the working of Satan so the
Antichrist cannot come until Satan works in him with all power and signs
and lying wonders it's Satan who is behind this coming of the Antichrist so
it's him being taken out of the way first then the wicked is revealed
there's nothing in the context that talks about the spirit so second
Thessalonians 2 proves the post-trib pre-wrath position it does not
prove the pre-trib position now there's a few other things I could
touch on but I think I made the point pretty clear I don't really need to go
into more detail. Who's watching? Nobody? Okay anyway so I think that's it for
today um you know if anybody has any questions you can always ask me I'm
probably gonna make a few other posts just on my story talking about some of
these things probably addressing some other pre-trib arguments things like that
but that's really all I have to say for today I mean it's pretty clear what the
Bible says there's not really any way to dispute it there's not really any
verses that they have to support the pre-trib rapture there's a there's a
few but if you actually look at the context like in Matthew 24 and verse
Thessalonians 5 it does not teach what the it's not teach what they say
it teaches they teach that it's that first Thessalonians 5 2 and Matthew 24
about the rapture but those con or I mean I'm sorry are about teach that the
rapture is can take place at any moment but that's not what they teach
that it just teaches that Matthew 24 just shows us after the tribulation and
first Thessalonians 5 2 just shows us that the day of the Lord and the day of the
Lord is after the tribulation it's after the Sun and the moon are dark in
which takes place at the sixth seal nowhere else in the book of Revelation
or in the Bible so it's very clear if you are unclear about this then please
ask me any questions I'll try to answer the best of my ability but I
think the Bible is clear on this so thank you buddy for watching I have a
few messages here I'm gonna read through some of them because I wasn't
really paying attention to most of this I was mostly just talking anyway so
Samantha said post-driven replacement theology gang
Ola Alex said Wendy okay some person asked are we living the last days well
it depends on what you mean by the last days I don't think that we're in
this part yet but I mean it might be getting close I don't know maybe I
think so I think it might be getting close but I don't believe that it's
something we should be dogmatic about like I don't think it's gonna I mean
it could happen who knows the Covenant with the Antichrist could take place
tomorrow but we just don't know those things so it seems like it's getting
closer based on how wicked this world is getting and based on all kinds of
things and also wow like five people show up right now I'm done it's kind of
funny anyway
poster progress is common sense the Bible is very clear but my Schofield
notes oh hey Jacob um yes the thing about I mentioned that earlier with the
Schofield notes how they the only evidence they have for second
Thessalonians 2 it's not evidence at all but they'll quote from second
Thessalonians 2 as proof of the preacher of rapture but then the only
evidence that are against not evidence but the only place that
they're getting the idea that it's the spirit being taken out of the way
is from it's from Schofield notes and not from the Bible
Kyle says hey brother god bless you sorry I didn't get here earlier appreciate
this anyways it's alright I'm gonna upload this video onto IGTV after I'm
done which is pretty much right now so thank you for watching and god bless
you goodbye like I said I'm gonna make a few other posts on my story the
next couple weeks or so and then if you have any other questions anybody who
watches this feel free to ask thank you buddy for watching goodbye