Hello everybody, it's me MrTall23 back with another video.
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And so this is going to be a continuation of the series on Calvinism.
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So this is a continuation of the series against Calvinism.
I started this a few days ago.
I made a video talking about total depravity and how that is a doctrine
which Calvinist believe which is false and not taught in the Bible.
And so today I want to talk about the second letter of the acronym
which is used to describe Calvinism.
It goes total depravity unconditional election limited atonement irresistible
grace perseverance of the Saints so that you and tulip stands for unconditional
election and in short basically what unconditional election is is the
doctrine that God has elected or chosen certain people to be saved
and certain people to be damned more commonly people would just know
this as predestination.
Now the thing is predestination is a word which is used in the Bible
and it is a biblical concept but the Calvinistic concept of predestination
is false and it's not what the Bible says.
So first I want to define what unconditional election is again from
the mouth of Calvinism stuff like I did in the previous video just
show you a few quotes from Calvinist ministries explain what they say
it is so that you can understand what it is before we show that
it's not actually what the Bible teaches the Bible teaches that
election is conditional upon faith in Jesus and it's not unconditional
God doesn't choose people for no reason so Ligonier Ministries
again, which is a Calvinist ministry.
It used to be run by RC Sproul.
It says on their article of unconditional election the Reformed
view of election known as unconditional election means that God
does not foresee an action or condition on our part that induces
him to save us rather election rests on God's sovereign decision
to save whomsoever he is pleased to save.
So he says God does not foresee an action or a condition.
So God does not choose people based on a condition based on something
they do but he chooses based on his own sovereign will sovereign
meaning that he has the authority to do and to choose whatever he
wants.
So they say well because God is sovereign God chooses who he wants
to be saved and it's all just up to him and it's not based on any
condition of what we do.
It's not has anything to do with us on our part.
It's all about what God has chosen before the foundation of the
world.
GotQuestions.org explains it clearer.
They say about unconditional election God before the foundation
of the world chose to make certain individuals the object of his
unmerited favor or special grace these individuals from every tribe
tongue and nation were chosen by God for adoption not because of
anything they would do but because of his sovereign will God
could have chosen to save all men.
He certainly has the power and authority to do so and he could have
chosen to save no one.
He is under no obligation to save anyone instead chose to save some
and leave others to the consequences of their sins.
So that's basically, you know, one of the most well-known beliefs
about Calvinism is that because of the fact that everybody's totally
depraved everybody is automatically on their way to hell God has
to choose and member Calvinist believe that it's impossible for
somebody to believe on Jesus on their own God has to regenerate
them.
So they believe that God only regenerates those people and gives
the faith to those people which he has predestined to salvation
before the foundation of the world.
He has chosen them based on no condition.
It's just his own sovereign will he chose to save others and damn
others.
That's just his decision.
And the thing is they mentioned how you know that's based on his
sovereign will.
He could have saved nobody he could have saved everybody.
It's up to him.
And yes, that's true because God can do whatever he wants because
God's a creator of the world.
You know, we are his creation the Bible tells us that he had done
whatsoever.
He has pleased God can do whatever he wants.
That's a fact but the Bible tells us that he only saves people who
themselves trust in Jesus have faith in Jesus and that is the
condition for our salvation.
The Bible does not teach that God has not foreseen anything and he
just chooses people based on no condition whatsoever.
He just chooses whoever he wants just randomly.
It's just this person goes to heaven.
This person goes to hell.
This person goes to heaven.
This goes to hell.
That's what Calvinist believe but that's not what the Bible says.
So the Bible teaches that salvation is based on the condition and
that condition is faith in Jesus Christ.
Not only does it teach that there is a condition but the Bible
teaches that God has the foreknowledge of that.
We saw in these quotes here that they say, well, it's not based on
any foreknowledge.
God's not foreseeing an action or a condition on our part that
induces him to save us is what it said in Ligonier Ministries, but
the Bible tells us it is based on foreknowledge.
I'll get to that in a second, but just the fact that it's based on
a condition Acts chapter 16 verse 30 to 31 and brought them out and
said, Sir, what must I do to be saved?
And they said believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be
safe.
So how are you saved by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ?
If you believe on him thou shalt be saved.
Okay, so it yes, there is a condition and that condition is faith.
The Bible tells us very clearly that people are elected according
to foreknowledge.
It says in 1 Peter chapter 1 verses 1 to 2 Peter and Apostle of
Jesus Christ to the stranger scattered throughout Pontius, Galatia,
Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia elect according to the foreknowledge
of God the Father.
So there goes out the window what the Calvinists say that God
doesn't foresee any action or condition.
The Bible says people are elect according to the foreknowledge
of God the Father.
Okay, so does God foreknow those who he chooses?
Yes, he does.
That's what the Bible says through sanctification of the spirit
unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ.
Grace unto you and peace be multiplied.
So the Bible tells us God foreknows who's going to be elected.
Okay, and then the Bible tells us also that says in John 6 verse
39 to 40, this is the Father's will which has sent me that of
all which he hath given me I should lose nothing but should
raise it up again at the last day.
And this is the will of him that sent me that everyone would
see at the sun and believeth on and may have everlasting life
and I will raise him up at the last day.
So again, there's a condition involved in salvation.
It's not just God chooses random people and then he forces
them to believe it's know if you see the sun and you believe
on him, then you will be predestined to rape be raised up
at the last day.
Then you will have everlasting life.
God gives everlasting life based on the foreknowledge of those
who believe that's the condition to believe on the Lord Jesus
Christ and thou shalt be saved because the Bible tells us
that we are saved by grace through faith but Calvinists their
understanding is that it's the other way around because
remember we talked about the last video total in the video
about total depravity how they believe that regeneration
proceeds faith and that God has to regenerate on unbeliever
first and he has to cause him to believe that he shows grace
to them because he has chosen them based on no merit or
anything or based on no condition is what they say.
That's how they define grace that they say well and not that
it's just unmerited, but that there's no condition whatever
and whatsoever.
And so he just chooses certain people and chooses I'm going
to give you my grace and I'm going to cause you to believe
by regenerating your heart and then then you can now believe
in Jesus Christ as a result of him regenerating and then
you're saved.
Okay, that's the way that they believe salvation works, but
the Bible tells us that grace is actually the result of faith.
We believe first and then God shows us grace not the other
way around.
It's not God shows certain people to show grace to and then
he regenerates them and then they believe in him as a result.
No, it's God gives grace.
God gives the gift of eternal life to those who by their
own choice believe in him.
It says in Ephesians chapter 2 verse 8 provide grace.
Are you saved through faith and then not of yourselves?
It is the gift of God not of works less than a man should
both we explained in the last video how the basically the
Calvinist believe that faith is the gift of God, but the
Bible tells us that salvation is the gift of God.
So it's for by grace are you saved through faith?
So you believe in Jesus then you receive the grace.
Okay, it's not the other way around because the Bible says
very clearly in Romans 5 to by whom also we have access by
faith into this grace wherein we stand and rejoice and hope
of the glory of God.
So God doesn't just show grace to just random people just
he chooses them to be saved.
No, God shows grace to those who believe we have access
into God's grace by faith the Bible says so, how are you
saved believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be
saved the Bible says we receive that grace where God gives
us the gift of eternal life that we don't deserve by faith.
That's where we have access into grace by faith.
So if you believe if you have faith, then you receive the
grace. It's not the other way around because the Bible clearly
tells us that salvation is an if it's not mate.
It's not everybody who God has chosen.
They will automatically receive the grace of God and be
saved. It's no if you believe in Jesus, then you will be
saved and God will show you his grace.
That is the condition.
It's if you believe then you will be saved Bible says in
John 8 24.
I said therefore unto you that ye shall die in your sins for
if ye believe not that I am he ye shall die in your sins.
Now, why would Jesus say that if it's just automatically
predetermined who's going to believe in who's not he says
If you believe not I am he you shall die in your sins not
well, you're already dead in your sins.
You're already going to go to hell no matter what you can't
do anything about it.
So you're never going to believe because God chose you to
believe that's not what Jesus said.
He said if you don't believe you will die in your sins.
So conversely if you do believe that he is who he says he
is that's you know, the son of God God in the flesh then
you will be saved and you will not die in your sins, right?
It says in Romans chapter 10 verse 9 to 10 that if thou
shall confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shall
believe in thine heart that God hath raised it from the
dead thou shalt be saved for with the heart man believeth
unto righteousness it with the mouth confession is made
unto salvation.
So if you it says if in verse 9 if you confess with your
mouth and believe in your heart then thou shalt be saved.
Okay.
So again, there's an if it's not well everybody God has
chosen they're going to be saved because it's not based
on any condition.
You know, the condition is you believe in your heart and
confess with your mouth.
Then you will be saved.
Okay with the heart man believeth unto righteousness
and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
So when somebody believes in their heart confesses with
their mouth, then they are saved.
It's not God has chosen them to be saved.
There's nothing they can do about it.
That's just a result of being saved.
No, that's not what the Bible says John and you know,
sometimes Calvinist will kind of deny Romans 10 also and
that this is a whole other story.
I'm probably going to talk about this in a different video
a later video talking about how Calvinists deny calling
on the name of the Lord when the Bible clearly teaches
that if somebody believes in their heart, they're going
to call in the name of the Lord and that is the moment
that they get saved.
But Calvinists also typically attack what would sometimes
be called the sinner's prayer calling on the name of the
Lord or whatever you want to call it.
The Bible teaches that somebody believes in their heart
and then they call in the name of Lord says for whosoever
shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
So that is tied in with faith of that is part of the condition
of being saved and they'll say well, no that's adding to salvation
that's works because for Calvinists who doesn't know what
words mean or don't understand what a gift means then they
think that anything that isn't God just forcing you to be
saved is working for it.
So some Calvinists believe that faith is a work which doesn't
make any sense because the Bible says in Ephesians 2 that
salvation is by grace through faith and it's not of works.
So how can faith be a work if the Bible says yes faith,
but no works that doesn't make any sense.
But see they will twist verses like in John 6 where Jesus
said, you know, this is the work of God that you believe
on him whom he had sent they'll twist that ignore the context
where they are trying to work their way into heaven.
They'll ignore the context and say well if you believe in
Jesus and you think that your faith is going to save you
that's working for because for a lot of Calvinists faith
is just a result of being say God has already chosen you.
There's no condition.
So you just have to basically just accept that and you can't
trust in you can't believe that faith is going to save you
or that calling on the name of the Lord is going to save you.
That's what Calvinists believe and so they will attack the
sinners prayer and say that if you pray to get saved or you
call upon the name of the Lord, you think you're going to
heaven because you call in the name of the Lord then you're
trusting and works is what Calvinists believe which is ironic
because as we'll talk about later the Calvinists typically
trust and repenting of their sins be saved which is definitely
work according to the Bible but asking for a gift is not works.
Jesus said in John 4 10 Jesus answered and said unto her if
thou knewest the gift of God.
Okay.
So what is it?
It's a gift, right?
The salvation is a gift.
The Bible tells us the Bible says the gift of God is eternal
life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
We don't deserve salvation.
So God has given us the gift by Grace as it says in Romans
5 the gift of justification the gift of eternal life the
gift of salvation.
He says if thou knewest the gift of God and who it is that
say it to thee give me to drink thou wouldest have asked of
him and he would have given thee living water.
So he says if you know the gift of God you ask for it and
he gives it to you.
So when somebody knows what the gift of God is eternal life
and they believe on Jesus Christ the Bible says they ask
for it and Jesus gives it to them that's not working for
salvation.
Okay, if I offer this Bible as a gift and I say I'll give
this gift to anybody who wants it and then you come up to
me and you say I want that Bible and then I give it to you
just because you asked for it.
You said I want that that doesn't mean you worked for it.
Okay asking for a gift does not mean you earned it or you
worked for it.
Okay, that's stupidity and that that's what a lot of Calvinist
believe so they'll attack denying attack and deny calling
upon the name of the Lord when the Bible says that that is
associated with faith.
So yes, there is a condition to salvation.
You have to believe in your heart and you have to confess
with your mouth when somebody does that then they are saved
Romans not or Romans 10 9 is very clear.
It's if you confess with your mouth and you believe in your
heart then thou shalt be saved.
Okay, it's not God has just chosen whoever to be saved and
you just believe as a result of that.
No, it's you have to believe and you have to confess with
your mouth in order to be saved.
It's up to the individual to choose to believe on Jesus
Christ and they'll say well, no because God gives them the
But the Bible says thy faith has saved me in Luke 18 42.
That's what Jesus said thy faith has saved me.
It's not God gives them the faith God regenerates them.
No, they believe in Jesus and then as we saw in the last video
then they are born again, then they are regenerated then they
are saved.
Okay, because it's based on a condition that condition is
faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Okay.
So another thing which contradicts this Calvinist idea of
unconditional election is the biblical fact that God wants
everybody to be saved see as we saw from the quotes where
they define this doctrine of unconditional election.
They say well, basically it's based on God's sovereign will
he could have chosen to save anybody or he could have chosen
to save nobody but it's his will it's his desire to choose
some to be saved and choose others to be damned.
That's just what his decision was but the Bible says something
different the Bible tells us that God's will is that everybody
is saved.
Okay, it says in 1st Timothy chapter 2 verses 3 to 6 for
this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior
who will have all men to be saved and will have means desires
like will to have a will to want who wants to have all men
say basically was saying and to come into the knowledge of
the truth for there's one God and one mediator between God
and man the man Christ Jesus who gave himself a ransom for
all to be testified in due time.
I'll get to verse 6 in the next video limited atonement
that Jesus died for everybody not just for some people Bible
also says in 2nd Peter chapter 3 verse 9 the Lord is not slack
concerning his promise as some men count slackness, but
as long suffering to us were not willing that any should
perish but that all should come to repentance.
So God does not want anybody to perish.
He wants all to be saved.
He wants all to come to repentance.
That's what the Bible says.
So Calvinists believe that God chooses certain people to
be saved.
It's all just based on his will.
He has a desire to save some and damn others.
The Bible says he wants everybody to be saved.
So why is not everybody saved because there's a condition
to salvation that condition is faith.
He said in Hebrews chapter 3 that he has sworn in his wrath
that they would not enter into his rest and then at the end
of the chapter in Hebrews 3 he says to whom swear he that
they should not enter into his rest but to them that believe
not so we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief
the Bible says so people do not enter in people do not
get saved because of their unbelief because of their unbelief
because they do not believe because God says whosoever
will let him take the water of life freely whoever wants
to it's your decision to take the water of life whether
you believe in him and call upon his name or not.
That's your decision.
That's up to you and based on that God chooses to save
you not based on just no condition.
God just wants to just save some and damn others based
on no condition no full for knowledge nothing at all.
It's just he chooses certain people he damns other people
just because he wants to God wants everybody to be saved
according to Bible.
It's up to you to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.
If you believe in him, he will save you.
That's what the Bible says.
Now they have this, you know, this doctrine of predestination,
which is part of unconditional lecture that because God
has elected certain people they say to to be saved that's
basically God predestinating them and they'll use this this
word predestinate which is used in the Bible to kind of prove
this and they'll look at the verses where it talks about
predestination completely twist them and stay will school
the Bible teaches that people are ordained to salvation
before the foundation of the world God has chosen certain
people to be saved before the foundation of the world.
It's already God's plan, you know before we were even born
God already decided certain people would be saved and certain
people wouldn't so we can't do anything about it.
It's not up to us.
It's all just God's will he chose certain people, right?
But the Bible teaches that predestination is something
entirely different.
Okay.
Now again, don't get me wrong predestination is a biblical
word. It's clearly taught in the Bible.
I made a video about this in the past on my channel.
It's called the biblical teaching of predestination versus
Calvinism or something like that.
And then I also preached a short sermon in the preaching
class of my church a few months ago, which is also on my
YouTube channel, but you can check those out as well.
But I'm going to basically summarize and explain the same
things. I explained in those videos right now as well that
the Bible teaches that based on the condition of faith God
predestinates which means to destined before people to be
raised up at the Rapture to be conformed to be like Jesus
Christ. Okay, it's not before the foundation of the world.
God chose certain people to be saved and then he will regenerate
them and then force them to believe.
Okay, it's rather once somebody believes God has a foreknowledge
of those who believe and he chooses them to be destined to
be made like unto Christ of the Rapture.
We'll see this when we read the verses that talk about
predestination because there's only four places in the Bible
where it talks about this found in two chapters Romans chapter
8 in Ephesians chapter 1 used twice in both of those chapters.
So it says in Romans chapter 8 verses 29 30 the first place
where the Bible talks about predestination and so for whom
he did for know he also did predestinate to be conformed
to the image of his son that he might be the firstborn among
many brethren moreover whom he did predestinate them.
He also called and whom he called them.
He also justified and whom he justified them.
He also glorified.
So what's important here?
First of all, is that again it says for whom he did for know
now again, we saw earlier that the Calvinist believe that
it's not based on a foreknowledge, but according to this
and also first Peter chapter 1 verse 2 election predestination
is is actually based on foreknowledge.
That's what the Bible says.
So if you say God does not foresee an action or condition
then you're denying what the Bible says or you're just ignorant,
but I don't think these people are ignorant, you know, they
know a lot about the Bible apparently, but because they
don't have the Holy Spirit, they don't understand it.
They don't actually believe it.
So anyway, it says for whom he didn't for know, he also did
predestinate which means to destined before it's a pretty
simple word pre meaning before destiny to you know, make
that the destiny so to make the destiny beforehand before
something actually happens.
What is he predestinate them to to be conformed to the image
of his son?
So first of all, what the Calvinist believe about predestination
is not even the right thing of what God is predestinating
onto because their form of predestination is well before
the foundation of the world God predestinated people to be
saved and to receive God's grace.
But the Bible says that the predestination that God has done
is predestination to be conformed to the image of his son
and I'll explain what that means in a moment, but it says
whom he also did predestinate or moreover whom he did predestinate
them. He also called and whom he called them.
He also justified whom he justified them.
He also glorified.
So those who are justified and called by Jesus, they are
glorified.
They are conformed to the image of his son.
They are predestinated to this to this glory is what the
Bible teaches now Ephesians chapter 1 verses 4 to 5 is another
scripture which talks about predestination.
It says in verse 4 according as he has chosen us in him before
the foundation of the world.
So they'll say see look he has already chosen us to be saved
before the foundation of the world, which is not what it says
because it'll tell us what he has chosen us for as we go on
that we should be holy and without blame before him in love
having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by
Jesus Christ to himself according to the good pleasure of
his will and Ephesians 1 10 the last place this appears in
the Bible.
It says in whom also we have obtained inheritance being predestinated
according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after
the Council of his own will so from these verses we see that
the Bible tells us what God has chosen us and for and predestinated
us onto it says he's could predestinated us to be conformed
to the image of his son.
It says to be holy without blame before him in love and to
the adoption of children.
Now, I believe all these things are related because the Bible
tells us that we are still waiting for the adoption right
now. Technically our spirits are still are right now the
sons of God according to the Bible, but the Bible tells us
that there is a future event called the adoption which takes
place at the Rapture when we are conformed to be made like
unto Christ.
So we see this in Romans chapter 8 in the context of Romans
8 29 to 30.
So, you know, of course you have to know the context because
he says this predestination be conformed to the image of his
son, but he is already talking about this a few verses earlier
in Romans chapter 8 going back to verse 16.
It says the spirit itself beareth with us with our spirit
that we are the children of God.
So I'm not debating whether we are the children of God right
now. But of course that's only talking about the spirit because
the body has not yet been born again.
The body has not been changed.
The Bible tells us that we shall be changed at the last trumpet
right in 1st Corinthians 15.
So when Jesus Christ comes back, that's when our bodies will
be changed.
That's when we will physically be redeemed.
But right now it's only our spirits on our soul.
It says in verse 17, and if children then heirs heirs of
God and joint heirs with Christ if so be that we suffer with
them and we may also be glorified together.
So that also shows us that the glorification has not happened
yet, even though in verse 30 of Romans 8, it says then he
also glorified.
Okay, it says in past tense.
It's because it's as good as done because God has already
chosen that that is the destiny of believers, right for I
reckon that the sufferings of the present time are not worthy
to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in
us for the again future tense the glory which shall be revealed
in us.
So this is a future event when we shall be glorified, even
though God has already predestinated that this will happen.
This is still a future event from our perspective.
So it's not talking about believers getting saved.
It's talking about something after salvation in the future,
right verse 19 for the earnest expectation of the creature
waited for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Okay.
Now keep that in mind because we'll compare with some other
scriptures as well says in verse 20 for the creature was
made subject to vanity not willingly but by reason of him
who has subjected the same and hope because the creature
itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption
into the glorious Liberty of the children of God.
We know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth and
pain together until now and not only they but we ourselves
also which have the first roots of the Spirit even we ourselves
grown within ourselves waiting for the adoption to wit the
redemption of our body.
So the Bible defines the adoption as a redemption of her
body because it tells us that the creature still waits for
the manifestation of the sons of God.
What does that mean?
Well, the Bible says in first John chapter 3 verse 2 beloved
now are we the sons of God and it does not yet appear what
we shall be but we know that when he shall appear we shall
be like him for we shall see him as he is.
So when Jesus Christ appears when Jesus Christ comes back
the Bible says that is when we will be like him that is when
we will be made like it when Jesus comes back again Philippians
3 verse 20 to 21 for our conversation is in heaven from
whence also we look for the Savior the Lord Jesus Christ
who shall change our vile body that it may be fashioned like
unto his glorious body according to the working whereby
is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
So this is talking about the Rapture with Jesus Christ comes
back when we see him appear in the clouds, then the Bible
says our vile body will be fashioned to make to be made
like unto his glorious body.
The Bible says we shall be like him for we shall see him
as he is.
So according to the Bible when we are conformed to the image
of his son, which is what God has predestinated us onto according
to Romans chapter 8 that is when Jesus Christ comes back.
So predestination is not talking about God has chosen us
to be saved is chosen us to believe on Jesus Christ in this
light. It is talking about based on foreknowledge because
it says whom he did for know so it's not God didn't know
these people and he just chose certain people to be saved
and to believe in him.
No, it's based on foreknowledge.
He sees somebody believes and then he makes the destiny
of that person who believes that when Christ comes back,
they will be made to be like unto Christ and that's exactly
what it's talking about in Ephesians chapter 1 as well where
it says he has chosen us to be holy and without blame before
I'm in love now right now.
We are not holding without blame before him because we still
have this sinful flesh.
The Bible says our sinful flesh our vile bodies will be fashioned
like unto his glorious body.
We will be changed at the Rapture will be conformed to the
image of his son.
So we will be glorified the glory which shall be revealed
in us the Bible talks about Romans 8 so that is what it's
talking about.
Okay, that is what predestination is it has nothing to do
with God has chosen who to believe in this life.
It's talking about the future the Rapture when people who
are believers will all be changed to be like unto Christ
that is the destiny that he has given us.
We see that also in John chapter 6, which I read earlier
where he says that everyone that seeth the son and believeth
on him may have everlasting life and I will raise him up
at the last day.
So again, if you believe in him your destiny is that when
the last day comes you will be raised up and you will be
made like unto him.
Okay, so that is the predestination that the Bible talks
about is not a God has chosen based on no condition no
foreign knowledge who's going to be saved who's going to
be damned.
It's his predestinated believers to be conformed to the
image of his son to be made holy to be made like him to
be glorified in the last day to be raised up from the dead.
Okay, that is the predestination that is what the Bible talks
about when it speaks of these things.
Furthermore it says in 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 verses
13 to 14, but we are bound to give thanks all way to God
for you brethren beloved of our Lord because God hath from
the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification
of the Spirit and belief of the truth.
So the Bible tells us that this salvation which God has
chosen is based on the leaf of the truth.
So again faith is a condition whereunto he called you by
our gospel to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus
Christ and then so again, there's a condition that through
sanctification of the Spirit belief of the truth you are
saved. Okay.
It's not well, God doesn't see any condition.
He just chooses to save certain people and then faith is
just a result of that.
No, if somebody believes then they are chosen to be saved.
Okay, and they are predestinated to be raised up at the last
day. Okay.
That's what the Bible teaches.
So another thing another clears our scripture that they will
use that's pretty clear about what it's talking about.
If you actually read the whole chapter, but it's commonly
twisted to teach this doctrine of unconditional election is
Romans chapter 9.
So I want to go into that now.
I don't think I really talked about it in the video I made
against Calvinism about a year or two ago, which is called
the biblical teaching of predestination versus Calvinism
or something like that.
I mentioned earlier.
I don't think I really went into Romans 9 in that video,
but this is important to address because it is or maybe
I did I don't know.
But anyway, it's the most commonly used scripture to try
to defend this doctrine of unconditional election.
They'll turn to Romans 9.
They'll say well it talks about how God hated Esau and then
he loved Jacob.
So that means that the individual, you know, certain people
God just rejects and just hates before, you know, based on
nothing whatsoever and then he just chooses Jacob just because
whatever before he even, you know, they did any good or
bad or did any good or evil as the chapter says and it's
just basically, you know, talked about he's going to show
mercy to whom he will have mercy and compassion and who
he wants to have compassion on.
So it's just, you know, his will he just chooses random
people. That's how they interpret the chapter.
But as I'm about to show you they are just taking a few
verses out of the middle of Romans chapter 9 ignoring the
whole chapter what the context what it's even talking about
and trying to apply it to individuals when the chapter is
actually talking about nations not individuals.
Okay, so let me show you that in a second.
So Romans chapter 9, I'm going to read verses 10 to 16.
So this would be one of the sections that Calvinist would
try to use to defend this unconditional election doctrine.
It says and not only this but when Rebecca also had conceived
by one even by our father Isaac for the children being not
yet born neither having done any good or evil that the purpose
of God according to election might stand not of works, but
of him that calleth it was said unto her the elders shall
serve the younger as it is written Jacob have I loved but
Esau have I hated what shall we say then is there unrighteousness
with God God forbid for he it's safe to Moses.
I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy and I will have
compassion on whom I will have compassion.
So then it is not of him that willeth nor of him that runneth
but of God that showeth mercy.
So they'll look at this and I'll say see look he chose Jacob
to be saved but he chose Esau to be damned because he says,
you know, I'll show mercy to whom I will have mercy meaning
who I want to have mercy, you know, I'm going to it's based
on my will I'm going to show mercy to him and this other
person, you know, I want to have compassion on him.
So I'm going to show compassion on him.
That's just all my will.
So it's not of him that willeth.
So I'll say well, you know, it's not your desire.
It's all God's desire.
It's God that showeth mercy.
It's God's will now.
First of all, we already saw in the Bible that it clearly
teaches that God wants everybody to be saved in First Timothy
chapter 2 and in Second Peter chapter 3 in the Bible says
that very clearly so we know that this is not the right
interpretation but even just looking at the context or even
just looking at these these verses themselves will see that
this is not what it's talking about at all.
It's not talking about God having mercy on individuals and
choosing individuals to be saved.
It's talking about nations.
We know this first of all because the quotes that are quoted
in this passage here.
There's two quotes here from the Old Testament Jacob.
I may love Esau if I hated and also the elder shall serve
the younger both quotations are from passages which are
not talking about the individuals but rather the nations.
Let me show you Genesis chapter 25 verses 22 to 23 and the
children struggled together within her and she said if it
be so why am I thus and she went to inquire of the Lord and
the Lord said unto her two nations are in thy womb and to
manner of people shall be separated from the bowels and
the one people shall be stronger than the other people
and the elder shall serve the younger.
So is it talking about the individual Jacob and Esau that
the elder shall serve the younger talking about the people
the nations.
Okay, the nations of Jacob also known as Israel in the nation
of Esau also known as Edom.
Okay, the elder shall serve the younger meaning Edom is going
to serve Israel not the person Esau is going to serve Jacob
because if you've ever read Genesis that never happened.
Okay, Esau was never a servant of Jacob, but guess what Israel
subdued Edom later in its history because it's talking about
the nations.
He says it three times and you think they don't understand
it, but apparently Calvinists don't know how to compare
spiritual with spiritual like the Bible says to do it says
Nations man or people people it says people again.
It's very clear what the Bible is talking about here.
Then the other quotation Malachi chapter 1 verse 2 to 4.
I have loved you say it the Lord now, first of all you this
is the King James Bible that's plural.
So he's not talking about individuals should know that just
right off the bat.
Yet you say wherein hast thou loved us, right?
So these are people in the day of Malachi plural us, right?
So is he talking about Jacob?
No loved us.
Okay.
This is the people of Jacob right was not Esau Jacob's brother
said the Lord yet.
I love Jacob and I hated Esau and laid his Mountains and his
heritage ways for the dragons of the wilderness.
Whereas Edom saith we are impoverished but we will return
and build the desolate places.
Thus saith the Lord of hosts they shall build but I will
throw down and they shall call them the border of wickedness
and the people against whom the Lord hath the Indian nation
forever. So who is God mad at in the story the people against
whom the Lord hath a nation forever Edom.
Okay, the nation of Esau not the person of Esau.
Okay.
This is the day of Malachi.
This is 1500 years after Jacob and Esau were dead.
Okay, when God is speaking to the nation of Israel and he's
talking about his Indian nation against Edom how he's going
to lay his Mountains waste.
He's going to destroy them.
They shall build and I will throw down.
Okay.
He's talking about the nation the people so both of the
quotations in Romans 9 are talking about nations and people
and it just so happens that if you read the context of Romans
9 you read the whole chapter instead of just taking like
five or six or seven verses out of the middle of it you read
the whole thing and it's talking about Nations going back
to verse 3 Romans 9.
For I could wish that myself were a curse from Christ for
my brother and my kinsmen according to the flesh who are
Israelites to whom pertain at the adoption and the glory
and the covenants and the giving of the law and the service
of God and the promises whose are the fathers and of whom
concerning the flesh Christ came who is overall God blessed
forever.
Amen.
Not as though the Word of God hath taken none effect for
they are not all Israel which are of Israel neither because
they are the seed of Abraham are they all children but in
Isaac shall thy seed be called that is they which are the
children of the flesh.
These are not the children of God, but the children of the
promise are counted for the seed the Bible says so leading
up to Romans 9 10 where it starts to talk about Jacob and
Esau.
We see what Paul is talking about that God has chosen the
believers to be God's people and not the physical nation of
Israel.
So we're talking about nations.
We're talking about the matter of who is God's people.
Okay, who is God's elect in the sense of who is God chosen
to be his people because in the Old Testament it was the
physical nation of Israel those who were descended from the
12 tribes of Israel, right the 12 sons of Jacob, right but
in the New Testament the Bible teaches that it's believers
in Jesus.
Okay, we see this hair that it's not not they're not all
Israel which are of Israel.
So only the believers in Jesus are remaining of Israel.
And we see this later in Romans chapter 11 because Romans
9 through 11 is this whole passage where he just talks about
this subject of who God's people is right then after later
in the chapter it again continues talking about this starting
at verse 22.
It says what if God willing to show his wrath and to make
his power known endured with much long-suffering the vessels
of wrath fitted to destruction and then he might make known
the riches of his glory on the vessels of Mercy, which he
had a for prepared on the glory.
Now Calvinist will just stop reading here and they'll say
see what God has before prepared, you know certain people
to be saved is the way they'll interpret this but it defines
what he's talking about in verse 24.
It says even us who we have called not of the Jews only but
also of the Gentiles as he say it's also an OC.
I will call them my people which were not my people and her
beloved which was not beloved and it shall come to pass
that in the place where it was said unto them.
You're not my people there shall they be called the children
of the living God is is also cries concerning Israel though
the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the
sea a remnant shall be saved where he will finish his work
and cut a shortened righteousness because a short work
where the Lord make upon the earth and as I said before
except the Lord of Sabbath had left us a seed we have been
a sodom up and had been likened to Gomorrah.
What shall we say then that the Gentiles which fall not
after righteousness have attained unto righteousness even
the righteousness which is of faith.
So the whole chapter is about who God's people is that
God has chosen in the New Testament believers in Jesus
whether they be Jews or Gentiles to be his believer to
be his people to be the elect.
Okay, that's talking about that in time past in the Old
Testament the Gentiles were not considered the people of
God but now in the New Testament the Gentiles are called
to be the people of God.
That's a major theme in the New Testament that there's
a switch from the focus being on only the Jews and and
the nation of Israel to being all nations to include the
Gentiles and that the unbelieving Jews are rejected.
Okay.
This is very clear in the New Testament.
I've made other videos on this in my channel.
So that's what Romans chapter 9 is about.
Okay, it's not talking about this Calvinistic predestination
and while I'm on this I don't even have a verse the remaining
verses of Romans 9 written here, but I'll turn it in my
Bible because I just realized that if you continue reading
it actually teaches us further that faith is a condition
to salvation.
So even the remainder of the verses in this chapter make
it very clear that this doctrine of unconditional elections
untrue.
So I read up to verse 30, but it says in verse 31, but Israel
which followed after the law of righteousness has not attained
to the law of righteousness where for because they sought
it not by faith, but as it were by the works of law for
they stumbled at the stumbling stone as it is written behold.
I lay in Zion a stumbling stone and rock of offense and
whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
The Bible says so is the answer to the question.
Why did Israel not obtain to the law to the law of righteousness
is the answer because God didn't choose them to and God
didn't ordain them before the foundation of the world to
believe know it because they saw did not by faith the Bible
says so it's up to you to seek righteousness by faith to
believe on Jesus Christ.
Okay, if you're trying to be justified by the works of the
law, the Bible says you will not attain to righteousness
because we are not righteous.
We can never keep laws.
So we will always be sinners so we can only be justified
by faith according to Bible.
So the reason why the Israelites were condemned according
to the scripture the reason why they don't have righteousness
is because they're trying to justify themselves by the works
of the law and not by faith.
Okay, so that makes it very clear that this doctrine of
unconditional election is false because there is a condition
to election to salvation and that's belief in Jesus.
If you believe and you confess it about thou shalt be saved
and no asking for it is not working for it believing in
it is not working for it.
If you believe that you're stupid that you don't know what
a gift is.
You don't know what it means to work for something.
You don't know what earning something is.
If you think asking for a gift means that you're working
for it and you're an idiot.
Okay, but beyond that the Bible clearly explains what predestination
is that it's predestination unto glory to be conformed
to the image of his son that God has chosen those who believe
based on foreknowledge not based on no foreknowledge like
the Calvinist say but based on foreknowledge as it says
in 1st Peter 1 and Romans chapter 8 verse 29 based on
foreknowledge God has predestinated believers to be conformed
to the image of his son.
The Bible tells us that is something we are still waiting
for we are waiting for the adoption when we when our bodies
will be made like unto Jesus at the Rapture.
Okay, and then lastly the Bible does not teach in Romans
chapter 9 that God just chooses whoever he wants because
the Bible tells us that God wants everybody to be saved
and Romans chapter 9 is talking about the people of God
is talking about nations is not talking about individuals.
So this doctrine of unconditional election is false.
It's not in the Bible and next video.
I'm going to talk about limited atonement, which is probably
the most infuriating and ridiculous out of all these and
that's the belief that Jesus did not die for everybody
when the Bible clearly teaches that Jesus died for everybody.
So I'm going to get into that into the next video.
And so it's just as a quick conclusion or not as conclusion,
but just like an afterthought.
I noticed the last video I made has been getting a lot of
views and there been a lot of haters also people who try
to argue and write a ridiculous comments.
Like there was this one guy who said oh, we're not supposed
to attack Calvinism because that's creating division.
It's like they're the ones believing and teaching false
doctrine and I'm going to explain at the end of this series
why Calvinism is a dangerous doctrine because some people
think it's just a secondary issue like oh, it doesn't matter
if you're a Calvinist or Armenian.
I think it matters if you're both because Armenians are not
saved either because they believe you can lose your salvation.
Okay, so they're going to hell because they think that their
works and their deeds and them not living right or stop
believing is going to send them to hell.
So they're not fully trusting in Christ the Calvinist the
vast majority that believe you have to repent of your sins
to be saved which is not what the Bible teaches and a lot
of them are believing just complete heresy and it doesn't
matter what you show them from the Bible about Jesus dying
for everybody and the fact that you have to believe in Jesus
a lot of them don't have insurance of salvation because
they think that they might not be one of the elect and they
think that their works are evidence of the leg.
So they're trusting in their works.
Okay, so and I'm not saying that's every Calvinist.
I think there are some Calvinist maybe not five point but
maybe believe some of the points there are some out there
who probably are saved but the vast majority of them especially
all the Calvinist teachers out there.
They all teach in this lordship salvation repent of your sins
kind of hardcore work salvation.
These people are not saved.
They're teaching a false gospel.
They are denying clear teachings of the Bible and Jesus said
he that is of God hereth God's words you therefore hear them
not because you're not of God.
So I already have some people mad at me over this but it's
to be expected when you preach the Word of God.
So thank you ready for watching.
God bless you and goodbye.