and as the play goes around before we read the scripture and have the
preaching this morning we're actually gonna do something a little bit
different we're gonna have a testimony from brother Chris Segura now as you
know several months ago we had planned a soul-winning marathon in
Johannesburg South Africa and it was just planned as a one-day thing
it was just gonna be a quick one-off deal get in there do some
soul-winning meet up with some faith forward listeners get out of there but I
ended up being banned from South Africa and my flights were canceled I didn't
get to go there well brother Chris Segura was able to go to South Africa
and basically do the work that I would have done except that instead of being
there for just one day we sent him there for two weeks and he had a
couple of other workers from our church with him and so he was able to really
accomplish a lot for the Lord in that time and we don't even have time
honestly to talk about all the stuff that our church has been doing over
the last few months because the whole service would just be announcements
okay but I just wanted to highlight this one testimony of brother Chris
Segura from South Africa we've got people right now down in Guyana we've
had people in Botswana South Africa over the last several months we've had
soul winners and preachers from our church train and sent out of this church
all of traveling all over the world preaching in schools I mean just a
couple days ago brother Charlie Jeffrey from our church many of you
know him he just preached in a school to 668 students down in Guyana in
a public high school so we've got really cool stuff going on all over
the world for the glory of God and so at this time I want brother Chris
Segura just to give a testimony about his trip to South Africa and what he
was able to do for the Lord down there what God opened up for us down
there over the past couple weeks oh man I don't even know where to begin
but I'll try you know to cover as much as possible because I wanted to
be a blessing for you guys in the encouragement but first thing I want to
say is thank you to everybody literally I felt like it was a gift the
privilege to go there and you know anything full-time like this as I've
been a member of people were Baptist Church I just been faithful just going
soul-winning do what I can tithing just do my part but you know what as
I was over there I couldn't stop I think of you guys I was like man you
know what this will not be possible if it weren't for the people just being
faithful supporting us not just in this church but people throughout the
world as I was over there I just couldn't just up you know thinking to
myself like man I would never been able to do this in a million years you
know it's just incredible what had happened but also you know just want to
quickly talk about the beginning because we had no idea what was going to
happen you know pastor briefed me and he was just saying look you could get
deported the first day you could be the entire time I don't know but one
thing that I want you to get in your head right now is that it's a very
dangerous place a very dangerous place and you know what I've never had life
insurance ever in my life until I decided to go over there I quickly
just got life insurance I don't know why I'm just like how much babe half a
million let's do it you know $27 a month let's do it hopefully my
insurance company doesn't see this video you know but literally that's what
it all began pastor just putting it in my head it's a dangerous place I
figured okay I get it you know they're shooting stammies murders all
of that wonderful stuff you know that keeps people from going out and
serving God you know but that day when he briefed me the Sunday night
when he briefed me you know he just started coming up with a plan look this
is what I want you to do you know find the people that are close to the
pastor that's going to be meeting us down there you know just get with them
get with as many people find our listeners see who goes down there
just do your part you know but don't get killed you know that was the big
thing just don't get killed so what happened was we ended up just or at
least you know I didn't expect that I thought I was going to be down there the
entire time by myself I didn't know what was going to happen but God made
it worked out amazingly where he sent me a couple people like pastor had
mentioned and it was basically a four-man team the entire time down there
you know was me the pastor that's down there and two other members and
man you know what they were they were so awesome they were just the
best you know I just I could not have been blessed by God you know this
whole trip was a miracle you know since day one I didn't know what was going
to happen all I knew I was going down there and I was just gonna have to
figure it out as I went you know but I knew that I was going down there to
win souls I figure you know what that's the primary reason I'm going down there
try to do some soul winning so I arrived that night and praise God
everything worked out not a hundred percent perfect it did lose my
luggage of course you know it didn't show up you know but it was a bunch of
Bibles flash drives that we wanted to give to the pastor to give to the
members of his church you know but it was nighttime when I arrived and we
just started driving and we're like okay cool he's gonna take me to the
place where I'm staying and I noticed right away that he's just driving
through Cape Town and he's running red lights and I'm thinking what in the
world's going on so he's running red lights and I just had a camera kind of
aimed at him started to record right away and he right away just explained
look this is okay we can run these red lights as night because these areas
are where they do a lot of car jackings so as soon as you stop you
know you don't know who's in this area and there's big gangs in this
area and that's what they're looking for somebody that's dumb enough to stop
you know for longer than 30 seconds because they will take your car they will
take your life they will steal it from you so I'm just like oh hey run them all
you know that's fine with me just run as many just give me to my place I'm a
little worn out just give me to where I'm staying so his name is Pastor
Bogart you know he's a non-denominational pastor but it
seems to be leaning more towards our our way of doing business which was
great you know so I don't I don't know a whole lot of his history how
it all started you know but he was definitely leaning towards our way of
doing business especially with the door-to-door soul winning he had
never really done that his church had no idea what that was about you know his
assistant pastor mentioned after we talked to him that he had known a
little bit about it but they were not doing it that was a thing their
biggest way of getting people saved is through hunger pretty much they would
just feed a lot of hungry people and just bring him in and try to get
him a gospel or Crusades you know that's the best thing down there is
Crusades where they just have I think a couple of days of just preaching
people come in and they try to get him saved you know but he realized while
he was down here and you know coming across pastor Anderson that they're
missing out they're missing on a tremendous opportunity to get people
safe and that's by door-to-door he realized that right away he's like
you know what I've never really known much about door-to-door he came
down there for a couple of weeks went soul winning and he was amazed he
was amazed by our church especially the young kids he was shocked how he saw
young kids going with their fathers going out door-to-door because he saw
that that was the next generation and he felt like that's something he needs
to take back to his church and get it started fast as possible you know but
he didn't know where to begin that's why he was asking for help and pastor
was gracious enough to send us down there so the first day that I you know
that we had together you know we were just helping him out as much as
possible just trying to get everything ready for Saturday because he was
going to try to feed about a thousand people that are very poor starving in
his area near his church so we're just having him get gather around all
Cape Town he was getting a bunch of donations from this individual that
individual but what I noticed or one of the the people that I ran into who knew
about Pastor Anderson was a manager his name was Nico and Nico was a manager
at a grocery store but it was a supermarket but he was in charge of
the grocery department so he had never really known about Pastor Bogart at all
but what had happened was I believe it was after Pastor Bogart started
posting himself pretty much with Pastor Anderson on his Facebook that this
listener who came across Pastor Anderson through TV because South Africa media
you know that's what they were trying to do is keep Pastor Anderson from
entering into the country and I don't know to what extent they had him on
TV every day but they mentioned that they had him on TV a lot so that's
how they came across Pastor Anderson is just by seeing him in the news so
what had happened he just started looking into Pastor Anderson because
this guy wasn't that brainwashed to just believe the media right out the
go so he decided I'm going to check this guy out so of course he said I
went to pastor's website started listening to the preaching and I
realized that this guy was the real deal and with that he wanted to help out
Pastor Bogart so he got a hold of Pastor Bogart says look I heard you've
been uh you know affiliated with Pastor Anderson I've been listening to
him on on this website and on on YouTube and I believe him because when
he picked us up one time sure enough in his radio he's not playing music
he's playing Pastor Anderson's sermon you know so he was either faking it
really well or he was a you know hardcore listener Pastor Anderson because
you know he couldn't really go to church on Sundays because he was a
manager and they make him work Sundays but he did have a Sunday free later on
and he did come to Pastor Bogart's church try to get some preaching you
know so what I was amazed was that this guy just by you know listening
to Pastor Anderson you know ended up down the road like helping Pastor
Bogart out you know so in a way they were uniting through the preaching
that was coming through this church which I thought was really amazing
because you really don't know who's listening to Pastor Anderson or to
what degree they take him you know serious but that was just one example
so then Saturday comes along and we knew that Pastor Bogart was kind of
targeted by the media especially even more because he was now paired up
with Pastor Anderson to some degree so on Saturday I had no idea what's
going on he just kept briefing us this is a dangerous area don't get
separated don't go off on your own I know that back home you can just
pick any street and just take off you know but this is not the area to
do it at you know so he was making it very clear don't walk off stay
together don't just do what you want to do check with me first not because
I want to control you just because I want to make sure that you guys
survive you know your next week or so here but he also mentioned that the
media had somehow reported that they're going to keep an eye on him on
Saturday so we had no idea what was going on you know so I'm just thinking
in the back of my mind well you know what just be prepared to be
arrested you know and that's kind of what I went over there with that
mentality just get prepared to be arrested who knows what will happen
maybe they'll keep me here longer to set an example out of me I just
didn't know but I was just preparing for the worst as you can already
see you know for me getting life insurance but that's another story you
know so Saturday comes along and right away I mean people are gathering up to
help feed the poor and we see police officers already walking around about
five of them and we don't know they're there to arrest us we had
already taken a little bit of footage you know a little bit of footage of
our first day which was Friday so Saturday we didn't know that was it we
didn't know that was you know game over is over they came and try to
figure out try to find a reason it just kind of detained us or deport us
so whatever video we had in the camera I'm not going to say who was there
you guys can probably figure it out but you know she told me not to
mention her name but this other person that came to help us we're
just dumping all the video on her he's like take these SD cards and
hide them so I don't know where she put them you know when she was
there later I found out she hit him very well and you could talk to
her where she hit it all right you know but it didn't turn out to be
anything I think they just showed up in case something was going to
happen I think they were there for our safety because later on a
police captain showed up with another police officer and some children that
are from the neighborhood just kind of helping us you know to
to just feed people but what had happened is that we just got
started talking to the police officer and we just kind of started
double check and see just how bad this this place is and so
one of the police officers we started to talk to her you know
and she she ended up getting saved so which is why she was
opening up more towards us but we started asking her about the
area where Pastor Borga works you know how bad is this area and
right away she said it is very bad this area is very bad and I was
also wondering how two white guys are in this area and how
did you guys get here without getting hurt because over in
South Africa they either consider you white colored and
black and I wasn't black I wasn't considered colored so
they consider me white you know that's what they consider
me and she told me look these gang members they know what
they're doing you know it's like you can hide your money
anywhere you want on your body but they know you have
something on you a credit card cash something you know and
they will not hesitate to just take advantage of you
especially since you're feeding the poor which was true
because this was on Saturday Friday we get enough meat to
just kind of pass out to an area they call it Malawi camp
it's a very poor area and so Pastor Borgaert you know said
it over again just stay with me stay with me don't get
separated you know so we go there and we're just passing
out meat packets you know to to poor people after we gave
them the gospel and what had happened was while we're
passing out meat sure enough these four you know I
guess you can call them thugs just start coming towards
us you know and the other soul winner that was with us
you know it could happen to me it could happen to anybody he just goes into so
many moments starts witnessing the people
but praise god he wasn't that dumb he realized what was going on because it
started to surround him so he played it cool just kept
witnessing and at that point Pastor Borgaert saw it
and he said look go grab him right now that is very dangerous they're
about to rob him so sure enough I'm just going up to
him and said look man we gotta go let's just get out of here grab the guy
and kind of left you know but sure enough just talking to this guy
yeah that we're trying to rob him they're trying to pull out his phone
you know they were saying hey you know what I'm interested in coming to the
church you know what's your phone number give me your phone number let me
call you see if it works but that's just what they do to get
somebody to pull their phone and they steal it from
you know but that was just kind of like the first step that you know it
took for us to just realize okay this is kind of an issue now
you know but what had happened later on you know on Saturday is that we
fed a few people witness to about maybe
three or four hundred people you know not really sure who got saved
people obviously raised their hand wanted to get saved wanted to pray and
that's got to save him so we did that you know so that's what ended up
happening on on Saturday sunday the first sunday there
you know pastor told me if i could preach i'm like sure so he just wanted
me to kind of go over the gospel with his people and the thing i like
about pastor bulgar is that pastor bulgar
you know to me seems like someone that really cares you know because of the
area that he's in you know not just that but what made me
think as well is that the guy obviously is never going to live a
lifestyle you know like the average pastor here in
america you know his house you know it's a very
modest house his church is a very modest church very modest people
you know but what i was thinking is man this guy really does care about
his people because he's winning day in and day out to work in a very rough
area you know and even himself he's been a victim of crime as well they've
broken into his vehicle many times you know but he still keeps staying
faithful keith's trying to preach the gospel be the best pastor that he
can but it made me wonder how many people here in america i'm not just
talking about this church i'm just talking about throughout bible colleges
and everything else how many of these people that want to be pastors will
actually want to be a pastor if they were in his shoes
you know i wonder how many will be will be just you know
drawn away from just all the poverty and just the hard work that it takes to
run the church and there were other pastors down
there as well that we were able to do
uh seminars you know a couple churches allowed us to do a soul winning
seminar for his people and another pastor allowed me to preach
technically allowed me to preach he just told me to go out there and just
say something but i kind of took over the sermon and let the guest preacher
he ended up preaching for like 10 minutes he was supposed to preach for 30
minutes i ended up taking 20 minutes but the guy probably forgave me by now
i don't know you know but i'm just trying to cover
as much as possible but it was just a huge miracle you
know from beginning to end only because everything that pastor told
me to do guy made it very easy pastor said go over there find his
assistant pastor try to get him motivated encourage him
and that wasn't hard at all as soon as he figured out who it was he was
all about soul winning all about going door to door
you know all about saving souls one-on-one individually
you know he was all about it his wife you know that's the thing about a pastor
if your wife's not in it's going to be very difficult to accomplish anything
but praise god pastor bulgar's wife
i mean they're like one team one dream literally you know they're just
as motivated to do more step it up to the next
you know level the thing about her she's a full-time nurse
you know so on our saturday the second saturday is when we're actually
going to go soul winning door to door for at
least an hour hour and a half as much as we can even the police told us
don't stay in one area too long you know it's not like america you can't
just be in one house for 20 minutes they'll target you right away and then
you'll be basically you know hurt pretty soon so that's kind
of our goal just stay in the house or stay 10 minutes with one person and
move on but i like her his wife's dedication
because she ended up working on on friday night from 7 pm all the way to
7 am you know so we're trying to convince her just to go get some sleep
but she wouldn't have it she's like no i want to go out for the first
time ever door to door with my church you know i
don't care what it takes i'm all right i can stay up a little
longer so she's never gone door to door
ever but she was able to pair up with another member
you know of this church and they were able to go out so many and she
liked it and what had happened was um i had i had preached on
sunday the first sunday on just being ready it was just a message called the
greatest day of my life and it was really just about being ready to preach
the gospel you know getting yourself prepared not just getting yourself
prepared but also just staying ready you know
because just as much as you need to prepare and get ready and become a good
soul winner i was just mentioning that it's almost
just as much work to stay ready and be a good soul winner
and i have mentioned how i lost an opportunity to just witness to about
45 students you know one time you know i blew it
because i wasn't ready to preach the gospel
you know but then i mentioned an opportunity that came up down the road
once i was a better soul winner where i got an opportunity to witness to
somebody you know that was dying of cancer you know somebody had called me
saying hey this person's not going to make it they're going to die anytime can
you come again the gospel i was able to go
you know and give them the gospel and i was just telling people look this
can happen anytime this can happen you know in your life somebody you just
never know you know and then what happened was um that day
i believe or a little bit after that there was a community worker
that had called us you know and basically asked us if we can go meet a
man who was dying of stage four cancer you know and she said look i will
really love you guys to just come and give him the gospel
you know witness to him so i went there and he was on his deathbed
pretty much and i gave him the gospel as best i could
but lucky enough pastor bogart you know he was helping me out as well
you know speaking africans trying to get him saved so i don't know
you know what what was going on when they were talking africans but
at the end of it all pastor bogart told me look he believes what you told
him and he wants to pray to get saved so we ended up praying with this
man to get saved and that was a big blessing
you know but what was amazing was that you know
it was just opportunity after opportunity you know where people kept
saying we want you to come here but we really couldn't do much because we
were limited you know to what we can do we still have to kind of help
pastor bogart to accomplish what he wanted to accomplish
you know but uh i don't even know how much to cover we just
ended up to kind of just highlight we got about individually 75 people saved
individually one-on-one we were counting but we wouldn't be surprised
more people got saved because we must have witnessed to at least 600 people
you know it was about you know 500 people on a saturday we went to
another pastor's church he had about 40 people and another pastor church he
had about 60 people obviously pastor bogart's church in just
different groups here and there so about 600 people got the gospel
and even in prison you know it was just really awesome how
an idea will come up and god would just allow it to work out
and we weren't even planning to go to the prisons when we flew over there
but the pastor we're just talking to him said how hard is it to get into the
prisons he's like i don't know he's like you guys want to try the
prisons i'm like sure so he emailed somebody they asked for
our passport numbers we email it back to them
and they're like you guys are clear for tomorrow to come in at 10 a.m and
preach in the prisons so we're like wow that's amazing so
we went there and this is just how much of a miracle it was because what
happened was one of our members forgot their passport and they
told us you must bring your passport so we're thinking all right man you're
gonna be happy you're gonna have to just wait in the vehicle
but then pastor bogart is like well let's see if god just allows him to go in and
sure enough they just allowed him to go in without his passport
so when we went into the prisons you know they just opened it up to anybody
you know they just opened it up to anybody but only about 20 men came in
the room the other ones were just kind of outside just checking it out
you know and sure enough we just you know were able to just
preach to them and about seven of them weren't 100 sure they were going to
heaven you know but i already went to the
gospel step by step and then at the end of it all we just told them look if
you want to be saved right now just go ahead and stay standing the rest of you
can sit down you know and we ended up just praying
with about seven of them you know and they basically i mean it was pretty
amazing because once we were done praying with them
you know these were men that weren't sure and i just kind of threw it out
there and i said look you know if anybody's 100 sure now
you know that if you die you go to heaven you know is there anybody here
that just wants to tell us why just go ahead and do so and there was like
this old man one of the prisoners he just raised his hand he said look
because we believe that's what the guy said
you know so that kind of made our day you know because he was one of the ones
that wasn't sure then afterwards we just said hey why would you be going to
heaven he said because i believe and that's really great
you know so i got about three minutes left but other than that i think if
you know i want to just finish it up by saying look thank you to you guys
literally you know just thank you you know you guys made it happen i'm
sure brother gary knows what i'm talking about just being able to do a
full time and just concentrating on souls the
entire time we wouldn't be able to do that if it weren't for these people
and not just these people but anybody that helps out pastor anderson
and just donates to the cause to get people saved i'm just like wow i'm just
so grateful that people were were faithful and it was what it was you
know we were banned from south africa you know but i don't know i think we
made a greater difference down the road i really do believe that
you know but other than that thank you for the pastor anderson for
sending me there you know i didn't know if you're
sending me here because you wanted me to get killed or because you really
cared about me real quick you you needed there's a
couple more stories that you need
tell about tell about how you got to witness to the crime boss
and also tell about how those guys were coming toward your car
to bust out your window and they ended up getting the guy behind you okay
so we were still kind of naive how bad
the area was so we ended up going to dinner with um
one of the local i mean he's not he used to be a pastor
now he's more like just a guy who owns a business and helps out
pastors his name is uh we call him brother johnny
so brother johnny took us to dinner but he wanted to take us to the fanciest
place he could afford so he took us to
you know this place that was i mean it was really nice so i just he was
sitting next to me i just started talking to him
and i was saying look just how bad is this area let me just get an idea
how bad is it oh it's really bad like really bad is what he tells me so
everybody says that but i'm wondering like can i just go out knock doors i'm
more trying to figure out like what kind of area he's working in and
if it's a good idea for us just to go out soul winning for a couple hours so
she would just cut it in 30 minutes or not so i'm trying to like plan with
this guy and he's like look if you really
want to get an idea an idea just how bad it is
you know he said look you know there's gangs out here
etc etc you know but if you want to talk to someone that really knows it
in case you don't believe your pastor he's like you need to go talk to a
gang leader that's what he says a gang leader
and i'm like a what he's like there's this guy you know that
you know we just happen to know and and he basically just kind of said look if
you want to get the real deal get a better idea get some camera footage you
can take home you know if anybody knows how bad this area is it's just a
crime boss or whatever so i'm like okay
you know i'm like go for it you know it's like you know how easy can you
set it up he's like well let me find out so i
don't know i guess he called somebody that knew somebody knew somebody knew
this guy he called him he's like all right he can be here tomorrow at 10
a.m pastor bulgar was not for it at all
you know pastor boy is like that is not a good idea at all
you know i am not happy about it whatsoever you know this guy went to
prison he just got out of prison he went to prison for 10 years for rape
and murder you know and now you're going to
interview him he's like i'm not happy about this idea at all
but if you guys want to do it go ahead you know do what you have to
do and he's like i just i just don't want
nothing to do with him you know i just have no idea what he's
really doing he is still suspected you know of of just being involved
you know with crime in cape town you know but he is like their biggest
criminal that they've had in a while and he was he's in charge or was in
charge you know because he never told us he was still in charge of it
but even the government thinks he still is you know
they they said this this guy was in charge of the deadliest gang
you know right now in cape town the biggest and the deadliest you know so
i don't know i'm not happy about meeting the guy but you know whatever
so we're like hey you know what i don't care if it's a guy on the
street or anybody if there's an opportunity to get somebody saved i'll
take it you know but let's do it so you know what's what it
was the next day we go to the restaurant and i guess they have
spoken with a pastor that got a hold of them
someone that he's really close with you know and he just came and right away
i think pastor boca told him look this might be in a documentary you know
they want to record do an interview with him
and he's like that is a terrible idea he's like i need to meet with you
guys so then this guy meets with us it was another pastor
you know he also used to be a gang leader and he said look this guy's
coming you cannot record this guy at all
you know so were you planning to record him i'm like yeah i was planning
to record him you know it's like you cannot record him he can't do
interviews it doesn't matter what type of media he's not allowed to do any
interviews with any media you know whatsoever because here's what
this is going to happen if he ends up going back to prison
if he gets a provova a parole violation whatsoever he may take it out on
pastor bulgar if he was the reason why he went back
to prison you know so then at that point i'm thinking okay maybe this is
not a good idea you know it's like okay whatever let's
just see what happens so then what had happened was um he kind of quickly
gave us a history of him and he was saying yeah you know what
this had happened you know he still has like people that want to kill him so
don't be too you know concerned if if he just doesn't
feel you guys when you guys meet because you know his brother
you know they were trying to kill him but it took it on his brother his
brother was burned alive you know so they poured gasoline on him
and it burned him alive kind of trying to kill him and he
still has other gangs that are in the area that basically want him dead
just kind of like as a trophy they want his head
you know so we're like okay no big deal you know it's like
whatever you know i just don't know what to think about it but this guy
ended up showing up but first he's sending a guy
to kind of scope out the area you know so he sends it a guy to scope out the
area he ends up grabbing the manual orders for him i guess he called him
saying it was clear and the guy was whatever just comes in and he just sits
down with us you know and i at that point i don't
know i wish we had it on camera but he was definitely suspicious
he was looking at all of us and we didn't know this but they just invited
him to just eat breakfast they didn't tell him that there was
going to be americans there you know so now he shows up and he's
like who the heck are you guys so he sits down and he's just kind of like
you know it's just supposed to me and you what are these guys doing here
and so i just kind of try to open up to the guy and just explain to him you
know what's going on and i just told him look where you
know i'm an evangelist from america i'm from faithful word pathos church you
know my pastor stephen you know l anderson is the one that
basically brought us here this i can remember and then that's where he kind
of stops he's like wait a minute these guys are from the church of
pastor stephen l anderson the one that they banned and he's just kind of
like what's up you know
so it's kind of like that it's like what's up you know
you know so then he opens up like he went from being serious like what in
the world so it's like he's the guy this guy
whatever you know and he's like oh what's up then he opened up it's like
yeah bring me my dinner you know let's see let's see what's going on
you know so we were waiting for the dinner to come up and he's like look
we're just here basically you know pastor borgard invited us and we just want
to have you know an opportunity or not even anything we say look this is what
we're doing you know we're just going around trying to get south african safe
we don't care who they are poor rich middle-class gang members it doesn't
matter you know he cares about the poor he
cares about the hungry he cares about people
you know so that's what we're here you know and pretty much all we're
basically here to do is just give the gospel and this is how we good
how we're doing i have my tablet there and so i'm just giving them you know
all the verses that we use and it was funny because the other soul winner
that was with us from our church you know he took a
picture of me you know right when i was talking about that it's eternal and
i'm not sure if he posted it by my tablet i used it for soul winning but it
was a really funny picture because i'm here i'm talking to a crime boss you
know here i'm talking to a crime leader and
then i have my tablet like this and the picture and i didn't know he was
taking pictures and all you see on my tablet because i
blew it up nice and big and it says gift on it so i'm just like this
talking to him it says the word gift you know so i get to that point and
he was looking at me very serious every verse that i went through he was
basically looking at it and i didn't pray with the guy but i went all the way
to the end and i was confirming with him it's like look do you
believe this this what you believe and that guy's looking at me it's like
that's what i believe so tell me what this will you believe let me show you
what romans 10 9 10 10 and 10 13 basically say
and it says and if you do that you'll be saved and that's what i told him
and you're safe you're safe forever and i don't know if he believed it
before he started talking to me but this is the last thing that he
basically told me and this kind of got into a conversation and started to eat
but it looks at me and he says you know what being born again is forever
that's what the guy says you know it's a one-time thing and he kind of
looked up like like more relaxed you know kind of like yeah you know you
just confirmed it for for me you know but i don't know if the guy
got saved or not you know but he was he was just kind of trying to you know
also give us the heads up like guys look i don't go to church
you know i don't go to church right now because it's very difficult
especially the environment the life that i live you know i have to kind of
constantly watch what i'm doing watch what i'm saying i got to keep an eye
out for people you know but you know we told him we
just want to give you a gift you know and we busted out with the
new world order uh bible versions and we're just going to give it to him
and so what was funny is that the guy really wanted it you know he really
wanted it so when i showed it to him that's when you say you know what i
don't go to church because of this this and this you know what i'm trying
to get life but the environment that i'm in is very hard
but i i will take this this will help me is what the guy says this will
help me and i think well if you want to take
that let me give you some flash drives you know so it's like here you know
these flash drives will also help you out as well so starting to give them
flash drives and then after everything was said and done i mean the guy
whether he's saved or not i don't know based off his answer i would say he
has a high chance you know based on this lifestyle it's
very difficult to see change you know very difficult to see change
especially when he knows that he still has a bounty on his head and
other gang members basically want to retaliate on him because of all the
stuff that he did you know so we just left it at that but
we gave him a t-shirt and i didn't realize what the t-shirt said but you
guys probably saw the the facebook we give him a t-shirt that
says soul winning is not a crime you know so the other guy so the other
guy gives it to him and i like and he was really happy too
because then we kind of walked into his car and he's like yeah thank you so much
he puts it on and then the other soul winner you
know he's just like hey can you put it on for us so he keeps like yeah
absolutely puts it on and i'm like man if anybody knows what crime is not
it's a crime lord you know
thanks so much brother chris great testimony huh
so he you know while they were over there the team had uh
75 people saved you know one on one confirmed that for sure understood the
gospel and got saved but they also witnessed to literally
hundreds and hundreds of other people you know
where they're feeding just hundreds and hundreds of people and preach into
crowds and just sort of you know having them
raise their hand leading them in a mass prayer so you know we don't count
those because we don't really know what's on
their heart because we can't talk to them one on one
and he's able to witness that crime boss and
he was also able to witness to a person dying of AIDS
he was able to i mean he just story he could be up here for hours you know but
i just wanted to give you a little bit of that so that
you can understand uh some of the great work that that some of our
church members have been involved in uh all over the
world so praise god for that