I'll see you next time.
You
Coming out to our Sunday evening service. Let's find our seeds and open our him books page 258
Green him books page 258
Christ receive a sinful man green him books page 258
You
Christ receive a sinful man
On the first
sinners
Jesus will receive
sound with word of grace to all
through the
Heavenly pathway leave all
girl
Sing it all
And or again
Christ receive a sinful man
It's clear in play
Christ receive a sin
I'm in he will give you rest
Trust him for his word is plain
He will take the sin
Lest Christ receive a sinful man
Sing it all
And or again
Christ receive a sinful man
Take the man
It's clear in play
Christ receive a sinful man
Now my heart condemns me not
here before
The law I stand he who cleansed me from a spot
Satisfied its last demand
Sing it all
And or again
Christ receive
the sinful man
Make the man
It's clear in play
Christ receive a sinful man
On the last Christ receive a sinful man
Even me with all my sin
hurt from
every spot and stain
That with him I enter
Sing it all
And or again
Christ receive
a simple man
Make the man
Christ receive a simple man
Great singing brother bill you want to open us with the word of prayer?
Amen favorites this evening favorites you got a favorite raise your hand you'll be picked Jesse
144
Green him bucks only green him bucks page 144
Mighty fortresses are gone
On the first
Mighty
Fortresses are gone
Of all work never failed
our
Helper he amid the flood
Of mortal ills prevailing
For still our ancient foe
Seek to work
His craft
Our
On earth is not his
Sheila
137 in times like these page 137
In times like these on the first in times like these
You need a savior in times like these
You need an anchor be very sure
be very sure
Anchor holds and grips the solid rock
This rock is Jesus. Yes. He's the one
This rock is Jesus
the only one
Be very sure
Your anchor holds and grips the solid rock
Bobby
138 the haven of rest
138 on the first my soul and sad exile was out
alive see
so bird and with
in distress
Till I heard a sweet voice
Saying make me your choice and I enter
I've anchored my soul in the haven of rest
I'll sail the wide seas
The tempest may sweep
or the
stormy
Ethan 136 two pages back master the tempest is raging
He's 136
On the first master the tempest is raging
The billows are tossing high
The sky is or shadow with blackness
No shelter or help is not
Carrots now not that we
Perish how canst thou lie asleep
When each moment so badly is threatening
the grave in the
angry deep
The winds and the waves shall obey my will
Be still
Whether the wrath of the storm tossy or demons or man or whatever
It be no water can swallow the ship where lies the master of ocean
and earth and
skies
They all shall sweetly obey my will
peace be still
Peace be still they all shall sweetly obey my will
Peace be still
You
Go on over here
Bill
144 on the third
144
On the third and though this world with
devils fill
Sure threatened to undo
We will not fear for God has
Is true to try
The prince of darkness
We tremble not for
him
His rage we can endure
For law his doom is sure
One little word shall
Sherry 415
Victory through grace page 415 victory
Got two more after this one page 415 on the first
conquering now and still to conquer
Right at the king in his mind
leading the host of all the faithful
into the midst of
the fight
See them with courage
Advancing clad in their brilliant array
Shouting the name of their leader
here that makes all
tingly say
Not to the strong
Is the battle not to the Swift is the race
Yet to the true and the faithful
Victory is promised
through grace
Two more two more we got some kids who want some Rebecca
30 you got it
Page 30
Nothing but the blood
On
The first oh I can wash away my sin
nothing, but the blood of Jesus
What can make me whole again nothing, but the blood of Jesus
Oh
Precious is
Oh
Makes me white as snow
No
Nothing, but the blood of Jesus
Last one this evening Matthew
134 on the fourth got it
134 on the fourth
My anchor holds
My anchor holds on the fourth
troubles
Almost swam the soul
Griefs like billows or me roll
Tempt to seek to lure astray
Storms obscure the light of day
But in Christ I can be bold
I've an anchor that shall hold
And it holds my anchor
Blow your wildest man, okay
on my barks of small and
By his grace I shall not fail for my
My
Announcements
Everybody welcome back to your foundation Baptist Church. Let's take our bulletins and go through them through it one more time
We'll see the speedy version
Let's see on our front cover
We have our verse of the week
It says study to show thyself approved unto God a workman that needeth not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth
second Timothy chapter 2 verse 15
Our inside page we have a service times 10 30 a.m. For the morning service on Sunday
And we're currently going through the series for new believers will be in
the
fifth sermon next Sunday morning and
Sunday that'll be on
Church attendance. So hopefully we have a good attendance next week Sunday evening is
We're normally going through started the book of Joshua, but tonight I'm
actually going to go away from it again to preach a specified sermon and
I think I said David Ward accidentally this morning, but it's actually Mark Ward
I'm preaching against there was a guy named David. They got baptized. I think I was just combining them together
So I feel bad for mixing him with a false prophet on accident. So I
Guess more than one person said that I said David Ward. I apologize for that. It's Mark Ward. So
anyway
That's what I'm preaching a specified sermon about that tonight
And if you don't know who that is, then you're gonna find out more than you probably want to know anyway
We had so many today. How did we have any salvations out there today?
alright
but
God still gonna bless you for going out
This praise part you see the salvation's baptisms attendance totals from last week. We do have some people out sick
so let's pray for them and we also
Speaking of well, I preach about prayer this morning. So don't forget brother Cody from
Yakima his dad passed away suddenly and brother Rick is trying to get back from his heart attack
He's doing really well, but he's planning on trying to get home by Wednesday
so continue to pray for him and I know that the Harrington's have a special unspoken that
they had shared and so if you just pray for them and then
Yeah
Sybil's dad has been in the hospital and he's
been going through
just some
Some really bad problems. So he's been in the hospital. So if you just pray for them and a lot of a lot of
Health issues going on right now. So just remember them in prayer and
The upcoming events we have this Thursday is the chili and cornbread potluck. Hopefully that will be a success
We'll have enough chili for everybody
And that'll start at four o'clock
Here at the church building
Make sure you mark your spicy chili if you're gonna make spicy chili who's planning on actually making spicy chili anybody
You're pulling on making spicy char you making spicy in wild chili. Okay, so you'll mark one. All right anybody else plan on making chili
I know my wife is because I already told her. All right, I'm trying to be tough, right?
All right, so you're making chili, all right, so we should have enough chili to go around
Hopefully just make a big old pot of it. Does anybody plan on making only meat chili with no beans?
Yes, I know we are
Anybody else making it with beans? Oh, you're making meat
anybody making it with beans
anybody making Cincinnati bill
No
Okay, I don't care I actually got some cans of Cincinnati chili I can bring so I can help you
I will help you. I
Can't eat it, but I will help you. I got the actual cans of Cincinnati chili at my house
Well, there's Brett Stockton and send them to me. I haven't used them yet. So
I'll bring for you if you want we'd have to heat them up and like something here
But yeah, we'll talk up for church. All right. All right, cool. So I'm looking forward to that and
That'll be Thursday if you want to come early
Bring also bring your board games if you want to play some board games
I don't know if we can get a risk game done in two hours or Monopoly, but
You can figure out something and the missions trip to our mission strip
The missions conference is in faithful that faithful word in Tempe the 6th to the 10th
That's coming up soon and homeschool field trip to sky zone trampoline park
That's between that's at 11 o'clock on the 14th. I believe that's a Tuesday see mrs
Woods for all the details and the 26 is the pie social the 17th of November
It's not marked in here, but that's gonna be the next soul winning
Four hour session kind of worked out pretty good except for the rain yesterday
The food worked out really good. I was actually thinking about running it back and doing the same area
But this time we'll hit an apartment complex. So if it rains we won't get smoked like we did. Well smoked by the rain
At the end of the day. I was just like I was toast. Yeah, it was pretty bad, but
The end of the day the food was really good like I mean that was some genuine
German cuisine there. So if you didn't get to go you missed out it's worth it just to go to try that food. So
Anyway, who had the strudel that was there you guys how was the strudel brother Jesse?
was it like
Pretty like good on compared to other strudel you've had in your life
Well
That's in Germany bro, oh, I'm just kidding so it looked good anyway, I
Wanted to break my diet right then and there but I resisted. All right, that's all I got for announcements
I think I sing happy birthday and all that stuff to everybody
yep, and then make sure you congratulate the Collins on the birth of
Samuel Leonard and
Everything's going well with them and make sure you congratulate them. All right, that's all I have for announcements
Go ahead and sing another song. We'll receive the offer
Sing our next song page 207 only a sinner page 207 only a sinner
Page 207 only a sinner out loud on the first. Not have I gotten but what I've received. Grace hath bestowed it since I have believed. Boasting is fluted, pride I abase, I'm only
a sinner saved by grace
only a sinner
saved by grace
only a sinner
saved by grace
This is my story to God be the glory. I'm only a sinner
saved by grace
Once I was foolish
And sin ruled my heart
Causing my footsteps from God to depart
Jesus found me
Happy my case. I now am a sinner
Saved by grace
Only a sinner
Saved by grace
only a sinner
Saved by grace
This is my story to God be the glory. I'm only a sinner
Saved by grace
Tears unavailing no merit had I
Mercy had saved me or else I must die
Sin had alarmed me
Fearing God's face, but now I'm a sinner
Saved by grace
only a sinner
Saved by grace
only a sinner
Saved by grace
This is my story to God be the glory. I'm only a sinner
Saved by grace
Suffer a sinner whose heart overflows
Oh
Being a savior to tell what he knows
Once more to tell it, but I embrace I'm only a sinner
Saved by grace
Only a sinner saved by grace
Only a sinner
by grace
This is my story to God be the glory I'm only a sinner
Saved by grace
Great singing this evening at this time. We'll receive our offering
Brother Jesse bless the offering for us
You
Amen turning your Bibles to 2nd Timothy chapter 3 2nd Timothy chapter 3
Please follow along as we read the entire chapter
You
2nd Timothy chapter 3 the Bible reads
This know also that in the last days perilous time shall come for men shall be lovers of their own selves
covetous boasters proud
blasphemers
disobedient to parents
unthankful unholy
Without natural affection truce breakers false accusers
incontinent fierce
despisers of those that are good
traders heady high-minded lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof from such turn away
For of this sort are they which creep into houses and lead captive silly women laden with sins led away with diverse lusts
Ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth
Now as Janus and Jambres withstood Moses, so did these also resist the truth men of corrupt minds
reprobate concerning the faith
But they shall proceed no further for their folly shall be manifest unto all men as theirs also was
But thou has fully known my doctrine manner of life purpose faith long-suffering charity patience
Persecutions
Afflictions which came unto me at Antioch at Iconium at Lystra
What persecutions I endured but out of them all the Lord delivered me?
Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution
But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse
deceiving and being deceived
but continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and has been assured of knowing of whom thou hast learned them and
That from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith
Which is in Christ Jesus all?
Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine for reproof for correction for instruction in righteousness
That the man of God may be perfect throughly furnished unto all good works
Brother Robert we pray for the services
Amen
All right, like I said, I'm preaching a standalone sermon and
Let's look at the verses here real quick first before I tell you the title sermon
I'm gonna focus on verses 13 through 17 and really the whole
Chapter is basically about how things are just gonna get worse and worse as we draw on towards the end times
And we really are I mean we've been in the last days since Christ came the Bible plainly talks about that
But the day the days are gonna draw closer
Things will get worse
The attacks will become more slick the the people that will come will will be using different techniques and and
tactics to try to infiltrate churches and try to just
Take people of God down by you know attacking, you know
Just even attacking the Bible like we have a great Bible translation in English the King James Bible
And there's a lot of people that get attacked for using the King James only and we get called cultists
And all kinds of different nasty things because we actually have a Bible that we trust and all these other
People that say well we can't trust the King James basically they're every other Bible only is
Anything but the King James and there's people that would they they try to pretend like they honor the King James Bible
but they really want you off of it and
So let's look at the verses here 13 through 17 it says but evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse
Deceiving and being deceived so it's going to get worse and seducers are trying to seduce us
to fall away from the faith and it says
but continue
thou in the things which thou hast learned and has been assured of knowing of whom thou hast learned them and
That from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith
Which is in Christ Jesus all scriptures given by inspiration of God is profitable for doctrine for reproof for correction for instruction and righteousness
That the man of God may be perfect
Thoroughly furnished unto all good works
And it's funny that Ryland put that as the bulletin cover and I didn't ask him to do that
He didn't know I don't think he maybe he did know that I was going to preach
that
maybe he picked it up from the title of my sermon, but
Yeah, the title of my sermon is mark Ward an evil seducer and deceiver mark Ward an evil
Seducer and deceiver you're like who's mark Ward and you probably don't know who he is
maybe some of you do maybe some of you saw seeing some of his videos and he's
Basically I
I've heard of him before I saw a video that he had made and I didn't really know much about him
I've heard a few things about him. I watched one video about him a while back, but I didn't really realize
how prominent he was kind of becoming in the anti King James only movement and he really kind of tries to rub
shoulders with King James only people in an attempt to try to
Get people to come away from the King James by saying that it's not readable anymore
That we can't understand the King James and because it's archaic and Elizabeth
Elizabethan
English that we can't understand anymore that the words meant different things back then
That we should move away from the King James and move to more modern Bible versions and he in the debate
I watched he recommends the new King James
so
I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about that tonight and
The debate I'm talking about happened last Monday on October 21st. It was a debate debate between Daniel Haifley. Dr
Daniel Daniel Haifley and dr
Mark Ward at Dayspring Bible College on the readability of the King James Bible
So in the debate the textual issue was not allowed to be brought up
so we all know that there's a textual issue between the text that was
That was translated, you know, the the Greek and Hebrew that was used to translate into the King James
English and then the modern versions by and large are tech are translated out of the West cotton hort
the the Frankenstein
supposedly older and better manuscripts, right, but the New King James is
Translated from what they would say is the TR or the Texas Receptus
But a lot of times they go with the newer modern version
you know, they'll they'll
They'll say it's from
Translated from the from the older, you know, the better manuscripts, but then they won't go with the TR
rendering of the verse
so
And then also they'll change words for no reason the words that that should be
Plain to us to read they'll change that in the New King James for no reason and I'll go through that here, but I
Actually wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna watch the debate
But then I decided that I would and I was pretty disappointed with the debate to be honest with you
I don't believe mark word should have been given that platform and the reason why is because
You know these types of people they have their fair speeches and they like to deceive the hearts of the simple
That's what he's out to do
He's out to just reach that one person that doesn't really understand
The issues and he'll take and twist things to make people try to come away that maybe just don't fully understand
What what the big deal is and he'll try to make it seem like he's he just wants people to get on a different Bible
That we should retranslate, you know, and so that people can speak can get a Bible in their current modern language
But make no mistake about it
He wants you to get rid of your King James and start using a more modern version of the Bible
He'll say he wants one
translated to
More modern English, but there really isn't a need to do that at this time
So, dr. Haifeli who was the Baptist preacher? I don't know if he's a pastor. I don't think he is
but he does work for the
King James Bible Research Institute. I think he's part of that board that
That makes all the King James stuff that
Dr. Stringer is a part of and things like that. So
He did pin him down over one thing and it was about
It's something I'll bring up later on but he did pin him down one thing
But I think I just think he was too nice to the guy
This guy gets up and makes all of his points and he's very eloquent speaker and he's making sharp points
And then he gets up and he's just you know
debates
between Christians, you know, if you start we were talking about this before I started preaching but they were saying
Yeah, basically if you're a Christian you start getting nasty with somebody then they're gonna be like, oh, he's just too mean
But the other guy he's just really super he comes across super nice and he's like I just care
Whether people can understand their Bibles or not, and that's my only reason for doing this but in reality, he's hiding his real agenda
and
so
Basically Mark Ward just kind of gets to puke out and use his little twisted points that he uses
To try to you know capture people into coming along with what he's saying
He really does just want to undermine and to subvert
people and and wants them to get off the King James, so
So this is basically what he's trying to do this is what he does in the debate
They weren't allowed to talk about what text was the right text and and things like that
So he really had a big advantage over the other debater
So the Bible and number one tonight the the Bible warns us about men like Mark Ward
Bible warns us about people like this. Let's look at our text in verse 13 again
It says but evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse deceiving and being deceived Paul's writing this letter to Timothy
And he's saying hey Timothy, you're a pastor
I just want to warn you that there are people that are just evil men and they are
Seducers they're trying to cause harm because to do evil is to cause harm. There are just people out there
They're just plain reprobates like Jan Janice and jamborees who are just out to destroy people's faith
They you know they have no other reason but to destroy and they're not going to come in and say hey
They're not going to walk in here dressed as Baphomet to try to seduce you and to stop using your King James
They're gonna come in and they're gonna be nice and they're gonna talk nice
but they're gonna they're gonna be dressed like a sheep, but they're gonna speak as a dragon and
They're gonna be slick and try to deceive you they're gonna try to seduce you with
their speech and
They're gonna wax worse and worse the Bible says deceiving and being deceived so they're deceived themselves
But they're gonna also try to deceive us
Romans chapter 16 turn to Romans chapter 16 verse 17 Romans chapter 16 verse 17
These types of people exist and you know people will say you guys always have these boogeymen out there
They're just trying to destroy the King James
Hey
They exist folks the Bible says that they exist and they're out there and they do try to corrupt the Bibles
I mean look at how many different English Bibles we have they're not trying to corrupt the Bibles
I mean they don't all say the same thing and they're all trying to they're make trying to make money off of them and
These types of people do creep into churches and they do try to overthrow and people's faith look at Romans 16 17
it says now I beseech you brethren mark them which caused the visions and
offense is contrary to the doctrine which you have learned and
avoid them so
Paul's also telling the Roman
Believers here that hey, there's certain types of people we need to mark them and
Avoid being around them avoid being taught by them avoid hanging out with them avoid going to their churches
Avoid being friends with them avoid them not hang out with them not listen to their sermons
Not listen to what they have to say. He said when they're marked we need to avoid them
Look at verse 18 for they that are such served not our Lord
Jesus Christ, but their own belly and by good words and
Fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple see they can be eloquent in their speech
They have good words. They seem nice
Don't they but in reality Paul saying they serve not our Lord Jesus Christ
Who do they serve them they serve their own bellies and ultimately they serve the devil
That's who they serve turn to Jude chapter 1 the only chapter in Jude, but Jude 1
verse number 3 and
in this chapter most of its dedicated to
avoiding and
Detecting this these types of people false prophets people that are foreordained to hell
Because of the things that they are and become look at verse 3
It says beloved when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation
It was needful for me to write unto you and to and exhort you that you should earnestly contend for the faith
Which was once delivered unto the Saints and you know what to be able to trust in the Word of God is
earnestly contending for the faith when we say hey
You should be able to trust your Bible
That is something that we you know it's one of the bedrocks and cornerstones of something that we believe as Christians
We should be able to trust the Word of God that we have in our hands and when people are putting doubt on that
Then you know what we need to contend with people like this
So when people get mad about us preaching sermons like this, then you know what hey
Just get mad and go go to a new King James Version Baptist Church
Then and see just how those types of church operate and then come back to this church and realize hey
It's nice to be able to rest your head and know what the Bible actually says instead of some
Non-denominational church where they're they're showing different verses from different versions so they can tell you what they want you to think
instead of what the Bible actually says
But it says for there are certain men crept in unawares
Who were before of old ordained to this condemnation
There's people that creep in and they're unaware
They're unawares who were before of old ordained to this condemnation
Ungodly men
Turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness and denying the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ
They might not say that but the Bible's seen that they do that
They might they might say hey, he's my brother. This is what he says all the time Mark Ward
He's like my my King James only brothers
He likes to say that but when I show you what what his church believes, which is something he advertises
You're gonna be like, okay. Well
Either explain yourself or explain why you have that on the front page of your personal website
But anyway, skip to verse 16. It says these are murmurers
complainers
The Bible I can't understand some of these words
complainers
Walking after their own lusts and their mouths speaketh great
swelling words this guy likes to use
Swelling words and uses academia to win people over I go to PhD and I'm a doctor of this or that
Having men's persons and admiration because of advantage. This is the type of people they like to you know flat
That they like to tell about all their PhDs and how how learned they are and what they have a doctorate in and all this
other stuff
So just keep these scriptures in mind as we go through this stuff
but
I'm gonna just read his about me from his own words on his own website
It says my name is Mark Ward. I hold a PhD in
New Testament interpretation from BJU Seminary. That's Bob Jones University used to be King James only but now they're not
My dissertation was entitled Paul's positive religious affections
I currently work for Crossway publishers on special projects before that
I was a writer and editor and presenter for logos
Whose mission is to use technology to equip the church to grow in the light of the Bible?
I have written several books including authorized the use and misuse of the King James Bible which comes
Highly recommended by da Carson and has an accompanying faith life documentary
I attended Mount Calvary Baptist Church for 18 years while in Greenville, South Carolina. I
Pastored I don't know why he quote marks this I pastored an outreach congregation there
Sunday mornings for the last almost six of the years after moving to Washington
So he lives in Washington State here. I was something
Something of an assistant pastor for six years though ordained for only the last nine months of that time at
Cornerstone Baptist Church in Anacortes
The church voted to close toward the end of the kovat era must have been a pretty great leader
My family now attends
Emmanuel Baptist Church of Mount Vernon Washington where we serve in various capacities
So they have a church about three and a half hours north of here about an hour north of Seattle I would say
He says I'm also the president of Bible faculty summit a small
annual
colloquium for Bible scholars who hail from the same silver of a
Sliver excuse me of American Protestantism. I do so
He hangs with the Bible scholars. He's he really is big on himself in his academia
But Mark Ward claims the King James has served its purpose
But is no longer readable and should be replaced with a new translation
He believes it's so unreadable that we can't understand it
And we need to put it away from us and take modern versions like the New King James
He cites 1st Corinthians 14 as his source for needing to replace the King James
And he and he talks about how
You know the the King James translators themselves use 1st Corinthians 14 and other reformers
use that to tell the Catholic Church that we needed to have
An English version in our own language and that William Tyndale fought for those things, which is true
I mean we should be able to have an English version that we can understand in our own language
So he uses those things
To tug at people's heartstrings and hey look if if we could not understand this if we get to the point where our
English is so far different than you know, it's just like nobody can in this room can read Middle English or understand it. I
mean pastor Anderson can can say
What is it Beowulf and he has some some passage of Beowulf memorized that he can that he can say?
But nobody can just sit there in this room and
Understand Middle English that's that Beowulf is Middle English and you can't understand it
You might be able to understand words here and there
So if we got to the point where you can't understand the Bible at all, then I would say yes
We probably do need a new translation, but we are not there
I mean who who really has a hard time just understanding what the Bible says in this room. I mean children
Can understand what the Bible says in this room, but he just makes it out
Like we just can't understand what the King James says we're too stupid or whatever to understand what it says
And I would just disagree with you on that
But let's turn to first Corinthians chapter 14 verse 6 and this these are the verses that he uses to say well
Hey, we need to have words that we can understand and and he basically uses
You know examples in the Bible and he calls them false friends words that we
Think we understand in the King James, but people don't really understand those words in the context
Well, but before we get there, let's look at first Corinthians chapter 14 verse 6. It says now brethren if I come unto you
Speaking with tongues. What shall I profit you except I speak to you either by revelation or by knowledge or by prophesying
or by doctrine and
Even things without life-giving sound whether pipe or harp except they give a distinction in the sounds
How shall it be known? What is piped or harped?
For at the trumpet given uncertain sound who shall prepare himself to the battle
So likewise he except he utter for the tongue words easy to be understood
How shall it be known what is spoken for you shall speak into the air?
There are it may be so many kinds of voices in the world and none of them is without significant significant
Signification therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian
And he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me. So it's just basically talking about it's you know
It's it's important to understand what people are saying to you and then verse 19 says
Yet in the church, I'd rather speak five words with my understanding them that by my voice
I might teach others also than ten thousand words and an unknown tongue and so this is the verse he really
zeros in on and it's like
He's basically
Likening that to the King James that we could probably only understand like five of those words and the other ten thousand
We just can't understand or something
Which is complete hogwash. It's just not true folks that is that I mean it's
It's just a gross misconception
We can understand way more words than we don't understand. And yeah, are there some hard words in the King James?
Yeah, there are do people miss interpret like what some of the words meant back then to what they mean right now, of course
But that doesn't mean we need to throw the King James in the trash
Because you know what? I've never been out soul winning and ran into any other soul winners that were actually not in a cult
I'm not talking about Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons that we're using a New King James Version an NIV an
NASB an
NLT a legacy standard Bible. What's the other John MacArthur older one?
The ESV I've never seen that ever out soul. You know, I've been so many for years has anybody else seen any of that
any other church
No
And you know why because it doesn't exist
The only soul winners I've ever seen out soul winning or saw their invitations were other
Baptists that use the King James
How do you explain that buddy?
You know why because that's the only bibles that are getting people say that's the only kind of churches that are out doing soul winning
That's a fact
So
This is his proof text and he's basically saying if our let if our language
And look I agree if our language gets to the point where we can't understand it anymore
We should have a new translation and don't get all freaked out about that. I don't think we're anywhere close to that
I don't think that we're close at all
Number two tonight Mark Ward says we need to get rid of the King James Version and replace it with a new translation
Because we can no longer understand it. Look at verse 14 back in our text. It says but
Continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and
Hast been assured of knowing of whom thou hast learned them. Look
You should trust in the things that you already have learned and know that are true
Continue using the King James Bible because you know, you can trust it
Why would you listen to some effeminate sissy sounding preacher?
So called preacher
So called man of God that if you just were listening to him talk in a room and you couldn't you didn't know he was
Up talking. He wasn't talking about the Bible. You would think this dude sounds like a queer
If you listen to his videos, he sounds like a queer. Okay, and I'm not saying that he is one for sure
I'm not accusing him of that. He's married. He has children. But is that the first like what?
Yeah, just because someone's married and has children doesn't mean that there isn't sugar in the tank
All right, there are people that get married for a cover. All right, and I'm not saying that he is but
Trust me if you just pull up his video after the service and you listen to him talk for more than five seconds
you're gonna be like whoa and
I he's got people that just jump on if you say anything about that. Like I just said he sounds like a queer and
People are like he just has a nasally voice
I know what the difference between a nasally voice is and someone that sounds like a queer. Okay, believe me
I've been there's a lot of queers important one. I've heard a lot of people that sound like it. He sounds like one for sure
Okay, his wife should probably check his browsing history and maybe look at his phone to see if he has any special apps on there
Or something. But anyway, that's beside the point
I'm gonna attack what he believes
More than his personal life here. But anyway, so
You know, we should continue
Using the same Bible because we trust this Bible. We know what what do we know for sure about this Bible? It's powerful
It when it when it's preached, you know that it's the Word of God. It's affected your life
I mean you're here in church because of it and not only that it you know, it's power to get people saved. I
Mean how many people have you led to the Lord with a different kind of Bible version probably zero?
I mean, you know that it gets people saved, you know, it's power and it's preaching
You know that God the Bible speaks about itself being preserved and you know
That it also says that there are many that corrupt the Word of God
So we know that there's corruptors out there, but we also know that there's one that's true
Which one is the one that's true besides this one?
Is there one that's just been used more mightily than the King James in the last 400 years
Tell me which one it is
Which one has been sent out by more missionaries which one has gotten more people saved than the King James you tell me that right now
But his argument of course in the debate was it's time to set it aside. It needs to like go in the museum or whatever
so but he specifically
Of course, he knows he's around a bunch of King James only Baptist
He specifically promoted the new King James in the debate because it's tr-based
But I've seen other videos where he he still he likes other modern versions, too
But he said tr-based because he knows that the King James only people are not gonna they're never gonna go to an NIV
They're never gonna go to any other version that isn't tr-based. So he recommended the new King James
so
Even you know, they do go with the minority modern Greek interpretation a lot and
They change complete words and phrases and sentences in
you know more than I can even explain to you tonight, but I'm just gonna give you some examples tonight and
So let's look at some of these turn to Exodus chapter 16 verse 28
so
Exodus chapter 16 verse 28. I'll try to go through these fast
And
So I'm gonna compare what the what the new King James says and you tell me if it's the same as what your Bible says
So somebody stand up and read what the King James says
Some man, yeah
Okay
How long refused ye, right
Okay, here's what the here's what the new King James says it says and the Lord said to Moses. How long do you?
refuse to keep my commandments and my laws
So doesn't it kind of put doubt on who it's talking to right there the King James uses the term ye
Which is the plural term that would be that would be you right
But when it says you in our modern English
It could be talking to one person or it could be talking to multiple people
But doesn't it make it seem like it's saying if it says how long the Lord said to Moses?
How long do you refuse to keep my commandments and my laws which one's more correct?
The
One that has the proper tense and the proper word
Because is Moses the one that's not keeping the commandments or is it the children of Israel?
It's the children of Israel. They're not keeping the commandments. He's just telling Moses to tell them that
So that is a big difference, isn't it? It might not seem like a big deal, but it is a big deal
so
Tenses mean things when it's when when you take out the these and the thighs and
The years and use and all that kind of stuff when you take out the pronouns and the tenses of those pronouns
It does make a difference in how you read the words in the Bible
And so that's what the New King James does it takes out and it takes the these and those out
And that's what people say. It's so hard to understand. How is it so hard to understand? Are you stupid or something?
It's not that hard
Ye you and yours plural the thine and thou singular
It's not that difficult folks. And when people say I just can't understand it. Well get saved then buddy. It's not that difficult
And or just get a tutor
Let me help you tutor the thine thou singular. Okay, you pass the test. It's not that difficult
And you're saying you can't understand the King James really maybe you just don't want to understand it
Maybe you just want I don't like that that it says D why
Because you just don't want to understand it. So
What about when Jesus go, you know Nicodemus comes to Jesus
How about that one?
Ye must be born again
Is he just talking to Nicodemus there because we could just take it that way couldn't we
Ye must be born again. Is he just talking to Nicodemus or is he talking to everybody?
He's talking to everybody. We all must be born again
Because you know, you know in the King James it says ye must be born again
But what's it gonna say in the New King James? Not the right tense. Not the right pronoun
What about the word she'll
Who's watched?
New World Order Bible versions
when the New King James
Translates words that are supposed to be hell in the Bible
They translate it as she'll and leave the Hebrew word in there and don't translate it on purpose
they translate the ones in the New Testament as
Hades or Gehenna or whatever. They don't put hell in there. Why do they do that?
The New King James claims to be more accurate
Because it leaves untranslated words, why would it untranslate a word?
When you watch New World Order Bible versions, they actually go around and ask people. What is she'll mean?
And then this this one black guy in there. He's like she'll like, you know a shield
He has no clue people don't know what that means the average person on the street
We could go out right after service and just ask average. Just go to Walmart and ask the average person. What does she'll mean?
They're not gonna know what that is or Hades or Gehenna
They're not gonna know what that is
You're trying to tell me that that the the King James needs to be put in a museum
Everybody knows what hell is every single person you go to the door
Even if they don't believe in God, they know what hell is
Everybody knows what it is. Everybody knows what the so you're telling me
That the King James is harder to understand that people can't understand the King James Bible because it says the word hell
You're gonna promote the New King James Version get out of here. You effeminate sissy. What are you talking about?
Nobody believes that
That's garbage
They untranslate the words that's like, you know, some Bibles will say the Nephilim
Instead of saying there were giants in the world in the earth in those days
They'll say it literally there they'll untranslate it and say Nephilim just so they can preach the Nephilim doctrine
The exit so the Bible and the King James says hell
There might be times when they'll translate the same Greek word as the grave
But
The Bible uses the word hell over and over again because everybody understands what that is
So let's look at 2nd Corinthians chapter 2 verse 17
We'll get back to the hell thing here in just a minute, but that's ridiculous that
That they're gonna just leave it untranslated in the New King James
That's easier though
that's easier to understand you want to make it easier and
And you think that the King James is harder, I don't think so
2nd Corinthians 2 17. Let's see what the New King James says
Someone stand up and read 2nd Corinthians 2 17 in the King James
Can I get a man?
Brother Ramon
Nice and loud
Yep
Excuse me, sorry
So it says for we are not as many which corrupt the Word of God is what it says right right the short part of it
Here's what the New King James says
peddling the Word of God
We're not as many as peddle or peddling the Word of God
It's a big change, isn't it?
Why don't why don't they want to put corrupt?
Because they're they're peddling it
Huh?
Yeah, they're corrupting it. How's that easier to understand?
Titus 3 10 I won't have you turn there
But it says a man a man that is an heretic after the first and second admonition reject
Well, I know why I know why he probably likes the the the New King James version because it says reject a divisive man
Instead they don't he doesn't want to be rejected as a heretic. He just wants to be a divisive man
Because that's what the NIV like they take on the NIV they take you know
The New King James takes on the NIV the NASB and the RSV the HIV
They take on those renderings instead of what the King James would take on because if it's really that close
Why would you change how the verse is? Why would you change what the verse says if it doesn't need to be changed?
Do you know what a heretic is yeah, well, that's a lot different than being a divisive man, isn't it?
So first Thessalonians chapter 5 verse 22 says
abstain from all appearance of evil in the
New King James Version it says abstain from every form of evil
so
And then Isaiah well, I'll just skip that one. Let's turn to Matthew chapter 7 verse 14
Matthew 7 verse 14. This is a really bad one that they have in here and this this deals with salvation
Matthew 7 14
Someone get up and read the King James Version
Mikey
So
Straight is the gate and
Narrow is the way that leadeth to the life and few there be that find it. Here's the New King James
Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life and few there be that find it who find it
So they're saying that salvation is difficult the salvation difficult or is salvation easy
so
He likes the Bible version that makes salvation hard that makes salvation difficult
That is a change in the meaning. It's not making it easier. It's making it harder. It's tampering with salvation
Hebrews chapter 2 verse 16. This is a bad one too. Let's turn over there Hebrews chapter 2 verse 16
Says
For verily he took not on the nature of angels
But he took on him the seed of Abraham
So he didn't take on the nature of angels like the way that they're built their skin whatever form their body is
But he took on him the seed of Abraham the seed of Abraham is man, right?
Look and so the New King James says this for indeed he does not give aid to angels
But he does give aid to the seed of Abraham. That's not even the same ballpark folks
That's not even the same at all that completely just changes the meaning of the verse
Yeah, but it's it's the same as the King James, right? It's just they change of these and those
Just helps you understand it more
Revelation chapter 1 verse 18 Revelation chapter 1 verse 18
I'm definitely not gonna have time to finish this sermon. I'm gonna have to do part 2. All right Revelation chapter 1 verse 18
So the the King James go ahead and someone get up and read the King James bill
All right, the New King James says I am he who lives and was dead and behold I am alive forevermore
Amen, and I have the keys of Hades and death
Why would you change it to Hades?
right there
What does that he I mean, what does that even mean?
Because they'll say well, that's the abode of the dead
But is that where Jesus went? Did he go to the abode of the dead? No, he went to hell. That's what the Bible says. I
Mean, I didn't look for acts chapter 2, but I mean maybe somebody wants to look that up while we're oh
Yeah, we go in there
We go in there. Let's look at Matthew chapter 16 though
Matthew 16 18
It's okay brother Shawn you were all the same wavelength there
He's like don't forget about that one look Matthew chapter 16 verse 18
Someone want to read Matthew 16 18
Brando
I
Very famous verse the gates of hell will not prevail against it
Here's the New King James
And also I say unto you that you are Peter and on this rock. I will build my church in the gates of Hades
Shall not prevail against it doesn't really have the same snap to it. Does it?
the gates of Hades
But what is that exactly
The abode of the dead will not prevail against it like what whatever because that's what they that's what they mean by that
They don't believe that it's hell
They're interpreting it as something different. All right, Shawn
Luke 16 23
Luke 16 23 you guys can all turn there if you want. I
Mean they change hell in multiple verses
In the New Testament, but I'm just showing you a few go ahead
Another famous verse in hell he lift up his eyes being in torments
Here's the New King James and being in torments in Hades
He lift up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his bosom, I mean well
The abode of that he's being in torments in the abode of the dead
Doesn't really have the same snap to it does it I
Mean which one's easier to understand because apparently you know, he says that the King James is hard to understand, isn't it?
But then you're gonna you're gonna translate it Hades and nobody even knows what that is
It's the it's the it's the Greek version of hell
So I don't even have time to rattle all these off but I mean the New King James
Switches out hell for Hades and tons of different verses through Matthew Mark Luke acts 1st Corinthians James 2nd Peter for
Revelation
118 6 8
2013 2014
You know where it says you'll be cast in the lake of fire
Apparently, it's the lake of Hades in revelation 2013 and 14
Hades is a
Transliteration of the Greek word and could be argued that is not an error to use the actual Greek word instead of translating it
But that's not the point
But I think it is an error because the English word
for
Hades you know for for the place of burning of the place where people go to burn for all eternity is hell
We don't that's the Greek word for it. We speak English. So to leave it untranslated is just weird
And okay, so there are words are transliterated that we didn't have English words for that's why William Tyndale used
transliteration and some of his you know, he made up the word Passover and
what the Day of Atonement and stuff like that and
Easter and things like that
but we had they had a word for the place where people go when the where the wicked dead go and that was called hell and
That's why we use the word hell and that's why everybody knows exactly what hell is
so
Anyway, let's move on
to
The word and I I just you know, I couldn't help myself
I had to go to this portion of it. And yeah, we're definitely not gonna be able to finish
I'll have to do a part two or something next week. Maybe I'll finish it on Thursday
Let's see
Tony
The world's loudest chirping alarm
Alright, so
Let's go to first Kings chapter 14. I want to see
What they did with the word?
sodomites in the New King James
And I know I've maybe maybe we've checked some of this in other modern versions
But I don't know that I'd ever looked in the New King James
But I just kind of want to see like, you know, because in in modern times like people say there's no people don't even say anything about
Homosexuality in the New Testament. There's nothing about sodomites in the New Testament. There's nothing about them. There's like maybe a couple mentions
Well, that's because they change it on purpose
So and I didn't really want to make this sermon about this but
Like when it came to my attention last night when I was studying about this
I was just like I couldn't believe it how how much they changed and why they why would they do this?
first Kings chapter 14 verse 24
What does the King James say?
It says and there were also
Sodomites in the land and they did according to all the abominations of the nations
Which the Lord cast out before the children of Israel. Here's what they say in the New King James
They say and there were also perverted persons in the land
That's a pretty broad statement, isn't it?
Isn't couldn't that be it mean a lot of different things? Is that really Chris crystal-clear?
Does that does that tell you and pinpoint to you and and make the meaning
Just sharp for you so that you that's more
Intelligible to you than the King James. I mean when you see sodomites, you know exactly what it's talking about
But when it says perverted persons that could be a lot of different things
It could be a perverted person when it comes to religion because people pervert the gospel
It could just it could be a lot of different things. It doesn't necessarily mean they're a sodomite
But it has like a little a little thing where you a footnote
Thing next to it. It says there are also perverted persons in the land
They did according to all the abominations of the nations which the Lord had cast out before them
So in order to know what the true meaning of this is you have to go to the footnotes and the footnote says
Hebrew Kadesh
one practicing sodomy and
prostitution and religious rituals
So, you know the other modern versions will say temple prostitutes or whatever
So I think that that's what it's trying to say. So what are they doing?
They're trying to go with the rendering of the other modern versions instead of just saying what it is
So the I mean, I think that if they put homosexuals there that would probably be
More clear at least than saying perverted persons. I mean you could make a case for that
But you know because a lot of people like if you say sodomite
They might not know the average person might not know because it's so dumbed down in our society now
Yeah, maybe they wouldn't know what that means right off the bat
But I'm sure they could figure it out if they just use their brains for a couple seconds sodomites sodomy. Oh
I see what you're saying
anyway
First Kings chapter 15. I'll make it really easy for you. We'll just go down
let your fingers do the walk into the next chapter and
Let's see what they do with first Kings
Chapter 15 verse 12 it says and they took away the sodomites out of the land and removed all the idols
That his father had made
What does it say in the New King James version? Well, I'm sorry to say that they made it pretty confusing again
it says and he banished the perverted persons from the land and
removed all the idols that his father's had made and
Then of course they have the other footnote there it says again
Hebrew
cadetium
those
practicing sodomy and prostitution and religious rituals
So notice it says
practicing sodomy
Because this is this is the other
Sticking point for the modern thinking Christian right if they're practicing it then that's when it's that's when it's bad
If they're if they're not practicing it they say they're not practicing it. They're okay
They repented of their sins, they're good to come to our church
Or they're doing some sort of prostitution
Involving it. So now let's go to first Kings chapter 22 verse 46 first Kings chapter 22 verse 46
And I'll read for you the King James once again it says then he tore down
I'm
Sorry, I guess I didn't
Put down the King James somebody somebody read this one for me. I didn't I didn't copy and paste it in
2246 first Kings go ahead
So the remnant of the sodomites that remained took out of the land, right
So, what is the new King James say says and the rest of the perverted persons who remain in the days of his father Asa
He banished from the land. So, you know, it's it's saying the same stuff, right?
Here the footnotes it says one practicing sodomy and prostitution religious rituals
So it keeps just saying the same thing over and over again. Now, let's look at the term sodomite alone by itself
No, I guess it's the last one that says sodomites
Let's turn to second Kings 23 verse 7 second Kings 23 verse 7
Second Kings 23 verse 7
And
The Bible says and the King James it says and he break down the houses of the sodomites
That were by the house of the Lord where the women the women wove hangings for the Grove
now this one's really interesting because
It says in the New King James Version it says then he tore down the ritual booths of the perverted persons
The ritual booths of the perverted persons that were in the house of the Lord where the women wove hangings for the wooden image
So I just thought this is a really interesting way of saying that the ritual booths
I've never heard this term before so I look down in the footnotes and it says literally house
What's the King James say? What's it say in your verse right there?
houses
So they changed the word from house, which is the literal meaning in the Hebrew
Which is what the King James says to put ritual booths
Is that what in the footnotes says literally houses?
So you're telling me that's more of an accurate translation than what the King James says no, it just fits their agenda
That's why they put ritual booths
So it could look like a ritual prostitution house or something. It says literally houses
It's talking about queers having houses close to the house of the Lord and they broke those houses down and chased them out of town
That's what it's talking about
They they tore down the ritual booths of the perverted persons
The temple shrine prostitutes is basically what they want to say and they tore down their little pervert palaces or whatever
That were in the house of the Lord where the women
So this one says that we're in the house of the Lord
What does the King James say that were by the house of the Lord?
so they change that too, so
Which which one's right? I?
Mean they they admit that they're lying in the footnote because it says literally houses
So they're admitting that they change the verse there. So which one's more accurate friends. It's the King James
So that's why you should and you're like well, but you why you have to bring up the sodomites all the time
Well number one, I don't bring them up all the time
But I just kind of want to know and then I was like when I saw this I was like are you kidding me?
They they have to change this too no wonder why we have fags all over our nations
Why no wonder way we have them all over our churches and their flags running down the sides of all the buildings
In town and and people going you're so hateful and mean why do you not let them in?
I'll tell you why because they're not gonna have a little shrine in our church
They're not gonna have a little temple a temple hut in our church or whatever. They called it
Good stinking night. They're not gonna have their little houses next to ours
We're not gonna feed them from you know, some we're not gonna feed them chili. We're not gonna feed them cornbread
We're not gonna feed them anything. We're not even let them in
When they come in we're gonna tell them to leave
Because if there weren't a lot of God's house in the Old Testament, why would we let him in now?
Do the wrong I mean we're gonna be finished here real soon, so don't don't get worried
I still have multiple pages to go, but I'm gonna finish this at a later date
But I did want to just finish this point. So
but
Look you don't want
Well turn to Deuteronomy 23 verse 17 Deuteronomy 23 verse 17. This is where it has the solo
sodomite in there
The only time the term sodomite is by itself not being plural in the whole Bible
Because you know this guy he likes to call the words that the King James that people normally mistake
He calls them false friends
You know, he calls him front, you know false friends, but really he
There's a lot of false friends in the New King James like, you know, he tries to make sodomites are false friends
By telling us to go to the New King James and you know, you'll never see the word sodomite in the New King James
Because they've taken it out of there. So
They become false friends to us because they cover them up and hide them and pretend that they don't exist
and so
Yeah, I could see that's just another angle of why they don't want the King James in little children's hands
They don't want the King James in our hands. They want us to get rid of them. So, you know and it hey
There's plenty of reasons why the enemy wants them out of our hands and this is just one part of it
but
Look what it says in
The King James. Oh, let's see. Did I write it in here? Yeah, somebody read it for me, please
I
Need 2317
Okay, there should be no whore of the daughters of Israel nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel
Here's what the are you ready for this one
There should be there should be no ritual harlot of the daughters of Israel
It's okay to be a harlot. Just not a ritual harlot
Of the daughters of Israel or or a perverted one of the sons of Israel
That's what it says so they took the term
sodomite out of the Bible in their in their version and then when you go to the footnotes it says
Female could Kadesha and
Then it says Hebrew Kadesh. So but we know that
There were the words are close for whore and sodomite but
But it doesn't say ritual harlot. There's no such thing as ritual harlot
They're just making this up folks. That is not a true term that's used in the Bible. They're making that up and
Then the whole perverted one
it says one practicing sodomy and
Prostitution and religious rituals
so they're just
These people are not it's okay to have these people in just as long as they're not practicing and they're not in
religious rituals
You see how they lie and
Then he's promoting this like do you think he just doesn't know this?
You think he's never stumbled upon this and all the fat the 32,000
You know word studies that he's done. He's never come across this part in the Bible. I don't think so
I think he just has some false friends that he doesn't want to tell you about and these friends are sodomites
But I mean if you sound like one you might not want to blow the whistle on this part of the you know
The fact that the Bible he wants to recommend to people just kind of takes these
deviants out
So he recommends other modern Bible versions as well and defends them
But you know he uses
You know these types of trap words like he you know the it feels like these things that he says are false friends
He uses these things to try to trap Christians and say well
Maybe we do need a new version and so he'll take words like
The study to show thyself approved unto God a workman that needeth not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth
And he'll do quizzes with people. He did a quiz in his
in the debate and
people were getting some answers right and some answers wrong and
Let's see I'll probably just start off with that when I finish my sermon
We'll just go right to the false friends, then you can kind of understand. I just don't have time to finish it tonight
I think we're out of time, but
We'll start off on the false friends part, and I'll just mark my place here
And then we'll just go ahead and close up for here, but look this guy
He's a phony
He wants people to get rid of the King James, and he probably has all kinds of different reasons
Why but the main reason and he'll just you know people mock at what I'm saying tonight
And and you know make it out to where I'm just a hater
And I'm just a mean brother in Christ or whatever and he's a he really does believe in the Lord well on part two
you're gonna find out that there's some weird things that he believes there's a weird things that his church believes and
I'm gonna expose those things on the next sermon and his little list of false friends
There's a lot of false friends that I've already just exposed tonight the fact that he just
He promotes a Bible version that has false salvation in it
He hot they hide the sodomites out
And then there's word change just completely changing of what the verses actually mean in the New King James
So if I've already destroyed that just and that's just some of the stuff folks that you know and also the hell
Taking hell out the doctrine of hell out of the Bible like what in the world the blood is missing
Multiple times out of of the verses in the New Testament. Why would you take the blood out?
Why do you got a problem with the blood John MacArthur?
Because they they just want to attack the Bible and attack the doctrines of Christ
And he'll say oh, no, that's not true. I don't want that what?
The why are you attacking the King James?
So I'll cover all the rest of stuff in the next term when I preach about it, but let's pray well
we thank you so much for the King James Lord and the to know that we can trust it and
to know that
any any child
Can understand it with the ability to read and Lord we're gonna keep on using it at this church
and I pray Lord that you would just help us with these types of sermons to strengthen our faith and
That men like Mark Ward
would be rebuked and
reproved and not given platforms to try to do damage to the body of Christ and
the Baptist churches and Lord I pray that people that listen to his stuff would
be able to see alternatives where his
his phony games are brought to not and and the things that he
Proposes to teach are destroyed
Lord I pray that you would just expose him for all the wickedness that's in his heart and
that Lord that you would just continue to use this great book and use your people to
Continue to get people saved in this world in Jesus name we pray. Amen
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