Amen. Okay, so keep a finger in 1 Timothy chapter 2 and turn over to 2 Timothy chapter 2.
So keep a finger there, turn over to 2 Timothy chapter 2.
2 Timothy 2 and verse 16, 2 Timothy 2 16, which reads,
But shun profane and vain babblings, for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
And the title of my sermon today is Five Profane and Vain Babblings of Calvinism.
Five Profane and Vain Babblings of Calvinism. I'd also like to pray before we continue.
Father, thank you for your word. Thank you for the many things you make clear in the Bible,
such as our free will to choose you and many of these other issues that I'm going to preach today.
Lord, just help me preach boldly, accurately, clearly. Fill me with your spirit, please,
Lord, help those who just have attentive ears and hearts today, and in Jesus' name,
for all of this. Amen. So what is Calvinism? Well, it's a belief system that seems to
basically transcend various, many denominations, if you want to call it that, of Christianity.
Amongst Baptists, you've got the open Calvinist churches, such as the Reformed Baptists that you
may have heard of before, and they'll call it different sort of things. Some people,
you could go to one of these churches and ask them if they're Calvinists. Well, we believe in
the doctrines of grace, and they come out with all these different types of terms through it,
and there are variations of these, such as a strict Baptist. I don't know if anyone's ever
heard of these sort of guys before. Yeah, a few here. I once went to a strict and particular
Baptist church when I was newly saved, looking for a King James Bible church, and I mean,
that's a pretty crazy place, and there are some different kind of variations of this. Now,
like I said, you've got these strict Baptists, you've got what they call Sovereign Grace Baptists,
and it's all pretty similar nonsense, you know, kind of splitting hairs here, but it doesn't stop
there. You've got the Evangelical Anglican, you've got the Presbyterian churches,
Congregational, Continental, Reformed, and you hear of different sort of the Dutch Reformed,
this Reformed, and these are all just open Calvinist churches. So all these churches,
you know, they'll be open, they might say, oh, well, we believe in the doctrines of grace,
they don't want to sound like they're just following this guy and his teachings,
but then you've also got the trendy non-denom churches and Evangelical type churches,
which don't openly say we are a Calvinist church, but they all believe in Calvinism and they all
preach Calvinism, and, you know, there are famous preachers of these churches, there's some are
really mega church preachers, you've got John MacArthur, you've got John Piper, Mark Driscoll,
Tim Keller, and these are all pretty famous, pretty big churches, which claim to either be
sort of some sort of non-denom, stroke Evangelical type church, who are all Calvinists, they're all
Calvinists, and here's the thing, is that the heresies of Calvinism are so mainstream
and widely taught that they even infect denominations of churches that claim to be
non-Calvinist, so you'll get, it's got to the point where you'll go to a standard Baptist church,
says we are not a Calvinist Baptist church, but they're still preaching, believing, talking about
certain things which have come from Calvinist teachings, I mean, it really has infected far
and wide, if I had a pound for every time I heard a non-Calvinist pastor say things like,
well God does the saving, anyone heard that one before, well God does the saving, when you talk
about soul winning, or if it's God's will then it will happen, how about that one, how many people
say that, if it's God's will, if it's God's will then it will happen, or maybe that
someone who's questioning someone's salvation because they don't seem to be currently
persevering in works, how about that, how many people do that, people probably here do that,
well I don't know if they're saved because they're not persevering like the doctrine of perseverance
of the saints, and there are many many many other types of things, there are just things off the top
of my head, if a belief system seems to be popular among a ton of different work salvationists
and is preached by multi-millionaire mega preachers, which is what this belief system is,
it would be quite wise to smell a rat, wouldn't you say, yeah I would say you'd be wise to smell
a rat with it, or at least question whether or not that hideous smell is of the rodent kind, because
it is a hideous smell, Calvinism is a wicked wicked set of doctrines, and like I said it
infects far and wide, and as Bible believing Baptists we should be questioning everything
shouldn't we, yeah we should question everything, but how do we do that, we compare it all to the
word of God don't we, okay, now look at 2 Timothy chapter 2, and from verse 14 here, where Paul
tells Timothy the preacher, in verse 14, he says, of these things put them in remembrance, charging
them before the Lord, that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the
hearers, so that's charging or commanding the church not to strive about words to no profit,
which instead subvert, it says here, which is corrupt or confound the hearer, yeah,
he's not talking about the words of God, because they are words to profit aren't they,
yeah the words of God do profit people, so what's he talking about, no it's all the thousands of
extra biblical words, phrases, commentaries, vain janglings of men nowhere near as clever as they
like to make out they are, yeah these men that love to appear to be very clever and very well
read and very learned and very theological, but the vast majority of it is just vain janglings,
it's all words to no profit, instead we should be striving through study of the words that do
matter, yeah that's the striving we should be doing, studying the words that do matter,
the words which are a profit, verse 15 says, study to show thyself approved unto God,
a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth, and just straight off
the bat, believing in Calvinism is shameful, okay, it is a shame unto you, and we're going to look at
that in a second, now you might be sitting there going but I'm not a scholar brother Ian, I'm no
scholar, I'm not at Bible college, I don't even know all these theological words, how could I even
dare to question these people, because I mean their intellects are so up there aren't they,
I mean look at the words they use, wow, I mean what amazing people, well praise God that you
don't do any of that, yeah, praise God that hopefully you do some proper study, just you
the Bible, and the best tutor or professor around which is the Holy Spirit, yeah, that's the best
sort of study you could do, verse 16 says, but shun, shun profane and vain babblings for they
will increase unto more ungodliness, and that for me is an apt description of Calvinism, profane
and vain babblings, it's profane because it completely changes and disrespects the God of
the Bible and it's vain because it's just a load of empty intellectual sounding worldly wisdom,
okay, a load of old nonsense, okay, and with that empty intellectual sounding worldly wisdom
don't let that fool you, okay, don't let it fool you, and a lot of people get fooled by that,
a lot of people in various areas of life get fooled by the long words that you probably don't
really understand that well, which kind of makes you feel like you're disqualified to even question
them, and you get that across the board and you get people that that will use that don't they,
they use that in whether it's arguments, whether it's debates, whether it's you don't disagree
with them, right, let's pop out the long word, let's pop out the theological word when it comes
to Christianity, let's pop out the intellectual word when it comes to medicine or whatever it is
to try and just disqualify you straight away, and now well I can't argue with that person because I
don't know what that word is, but don't let that fool you because it is nonsense, okay, it's profane
and vain babblings, okay, so again you might be sitting there thinking well how could all
of these doctors of theology, because they're doctors of theology some of these people aren't
they, well-spoken self-styled intelligentsia be wrong, I mean what does, what do you know brother
Ian, how could these people be wrong, have you seen how how posh some of them are, have you seen
how well dressed some of they are, have you seen how many books some of them have written, they must
be right, yeah, there must be some sort of meat in there, there must be something, there must be
something surely, well you know I've turned it but first Timothy 3 3 19 says for the wisdom of this
world is foolishness with God for it is written he taketh the wise in their own craftiness,
it's foolishness isn't it, it's foolishness and those profane and vain babblers just increase
unto more ungodliness, okay, and they do don't they because the more and more people get into
this sort of stuff the harder it is to get them saved isn't it, you ever turned up at a door with
these sorts of people and they're trying to sound so intellectual and so well read and so theological
yet they can't even get the first part of Christianity which is grace through faith
and is it easy to get those sorts of people saved, no it just increases unto more and more
ungodliness and that's the truth of it, turn to first Corinthians chapter 2, what's the reason
that these people are so confounded, that they can't seem to understand the word any, the word
all, the word whosoever, what is it that makes these people so moronic that they can't understand
basic simple English, well basically they're unsaved, they're unsaved, they will almost always
add some sort of repent of your sins, some sort of lordship salvation, something like that
to salvation, they're unsaved, now they won't always come out with that clear as day but a lot
of the time when you dig deep when you if you if people who have listened to these people preach
for a long time eventually it comes out, first Corinthians chapter 2 explains that from verse 11
where it says for what man knoweth the things of a man save the spirit of man which is in him
even so the things of God knoweth no man but the spirit of God, now we have received not the spirit
of the world but the spirit which is of God that we might know the things that are freely given to
us of God which things also we speak not in the words which man's wisdom teaches but which the
holy ghost teaches comparing spiritual things with spiritual but the natural man receiveth
not the things of the spirit of God that's the unsaved man there for they are foolishness
unto him neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned but he that is spiritual
judgeth all things yet he himself is judge of no man for who has known the mind of the Lord that he
may instruct him but we have the mind of Christ that's why the reason you and I could read the
Bible 10 times cover to cover and never come away thinking yeah God chose just a few people to be
saved and everyone else would just be cast into hell for eternity is because we're saved okay
the reason people could read it and come away with that is because they're unsaved they just don't
get it they don't understand it could be hard for us sometimes because you're saved to read in the
Bible and most people here probably only started reading the Bible after they were saved so it's
hard to really compare when you weren't but I remember trying to read the Bible a bit when I
was unsaved and man it was all gobbledygook to me I didn't have a clue what was going on what I was
reading it was like it was like a different language and then I got saved and then I started
reading about it wasn't like right the light bulb was on suddenly it was oh of course but but I tell
you what the more I read it the more you just start to understand it don't you and there was
such a difference with salvation than there was before these people don't get it and when I say
these people just to make it clear I'm not saying anyone that professes to believe some form of
Calvinism is unsaved but I'm saying people teaching that these wicked doctrines for me
they're unsaved every time every time now turn to second Peter chapter three because again you
might still be thinking yeah but but come on because they seem to come out with verses which
seem to support it don't they and some people don't like debating with them because they take
some verses out of context etc well second Peter chapter three sorry let me turn there as well
second Peter chapter three and verse 16 says this he's talking about Paul here Peter in his writings
here he talks about Paul and he says as also in all his epistles speaking in them of these things
and which are some things hard to be understood which they that are unlearned and unstable rest
as they do also the other scriptures unto their own destruction so often they base
a lot of their Calvinism off things like Romans chapter 8 out of context and other writings of
Paul but they rest them because they're unlearned they're unstable to their own destruction ye
therefore beloved seeing you know these things before beware lest ye also being led away with
the error of the wicked fall from your own steadfastness but growing grace and in the
knowledge of our lord and savior Jesus Christ to him be glory both now and forever amen look a safe
person can still be led down the garden path of Calvinism and one of the reasons I'm teaching this
is because many people that here will have been like I said infected to some degree with the lies
of Calvinism so I want to go through some of the most clear and obvious and out there lies of
Calvinism to help people hearing it and also we should be shining the light on this sort of false
teaching anyway shouldn't we okay so Calvinism is profane and vain babblings right but what exactly
are these babblings then so you might be sitting here going I don't really know much about this in
fact a brother spoke to me just before the services said you know in his background in a false church
said you know they didn't really hear much about most of these sort of false doctrines
and these false false versions of not even just Christianity I mean Baptist churches right there
are people here that could have got saved and gone right well I know the King James is a word of God
that sounds right to me that's what this person saved me with where do I go and then they start
looking around and look there's a lot of King James Calvinist churches aren't there Baptist
church independent Baptist churches some of them claim to be as well but you don't want to go there
do you you don't want to get get poisoned with that sort of junk well what is Calvinism then
well it's named after the heretic John Calvin although it basically seems to have a lot of
similarities with long-term gnostic beliefs I believe brother John Cornell did something that
a long time ago when we first started the church just before maybe it's like a men's preaching
night I think it was and that was a pretty interesting sermon just showing the many many
similarities are you know identical in some parts to to what are sort of gnostic beliefs but
let's continue on anyway John Calvin lived from 1509 to 1564 he's a French reformer in Geneva
who broke away from the Catholic church now he was a pastor theologian and writer he wrote
commentaries but but the main thing and the main kind of place a lot of these teachers come from
is his book Institutes of the Christian Religion where he basically orders these
wicked doctrines and he seems to put them what a lot of people say into good order and they're
well ordered well formatted now Calvinism is often known by its famous tulip acronym which is why
we've got a tulip on the front of our bulletin today but before we look at that we're going to
start with Calvin's belief of the sovereign god now by the way just just just a heads up on that
true he didn't come up with the tulip acronym that was just some cute thing that some of his
kind of deranged followers came up with afterwards okay but what he did he did teach all five points
of tulip okay now the extent of of this first doctrine I want to look at is is Calvin's belief
on the sovereign god now again this is something that I've seen transcend many denominations where
people just talk about what god is sovereign sovereign god that basically the extent of it
does vary so you've got on one hand you've got the people that kind of believe well you know just
god's god's ultimately in control of the universe yeah I agree with that then you've got the other
side of the scale where basically god is is ordaining every single event thing thought
action that happens in in the world okay that's John Calvin's belief that's not our belief
obviously but that is John Calvin's belief and like I said amongst Calvinist churches amongst
people that claim to be Calvinists there's probably pretty much somewhere in between the
two scales and that but I believe he was pretty clear about this he said in his book institutes
of the Christian religion all events whatsoever are governed by the secret council of god he also
said if one falls among robbers or ravenous beasts if a sudden gust of wind at sea causes
shipwreck if one is struck down by the fall of a house or a tree if another when wandering through
desert paths meets with deliverance or after being tossed by the waves arrives in port and makes some
wondrous hair-breadth escape from death all these occurrences prosperous as well as adverse carnal
sense will attribute to fortune but those who have learned from the mouth of Christ that all the
hairs of his head are numbered he quotes or he puts in brackets Matthew 10 30 will look farther
for the cause and hold that all events whatsoever are governed by the secret council of god he goes
on to say god is deemed omnipotent not because he can act though he may cease or be idle or because
by a general instinct he continues the order of nature previously appointed but because governing
heaven and earth by his providence he so overrules all things that nothing happens without his
counsel and then further on he says let him therefore who would beware of such unbelief
always bear in mind that there is no random power or agency or motion the creatures who are so
governed by the secret council of god that nothing happens but what he has knowingly and willingly
decreed now it all sounds you know very well well learned and you know what a great philosophy and
yeah god is just sovereign over everything but let's apply that to real life for a second
according to john calvin and the other weirdos that hold this view the current abuse of
multitudes of children around this world is actually god's will yeah that's basically what
he's saying isn't he all of the famous serial killers of past and present with all the weird
deranged disgusting things that they've done was actually all ordained by god it was all part you
know it didn't happen without god's counsel and his his his will for that to happen every sin that
you and i commit has been knowingly and willingly decreed by god that's basically what he's saying
isn't he and you can think of many other ways i mean straight away like what on earth yeah
it is laughable isn't it it's just complete profane and vain babblings it's not i mean
it's even worse than that isn't it it's just rank heresy nonsense it's it's it's a complete insult
of our god that's why that sort of belief that's why that guy should just make you angry shouldn't
he if you don't just laugh at him and we as english sometimes and maybe many places in the
world we just kind of decided just laugh at people don't we instead of letting the anger really sink
into your stomach yeah so it's easier just to laugh it off isn't it well the problem is that
people don't just laugh it off so that with this what they do is they misuse scripture and and and
they'll say things like how dare you question god and you know god is you know beyond your
comprehension and stuff like it's just so you know such a mystery that how could you even dare to
question this sort of belief but and again like this isn't even worth this first point isn't even
a point of my sermon because it's so absurd it's not i mean it's like where do you even go in the
bible you could just literally just go to almost every page and debunk this couldn't you but i
just thought off the top of my head verses like psalm 7 11 god judges the righteous and god is
angry with the wicked every day so is this some sort of self-punishment where god like ordains
them to do wicked stuff oh no why did i do that i mean it's ridiculous isn't it god's angry at
the wicked yet apparently ordained them to do all these things it was his well i mean it makes no
sense does it and of you know just again off the top of my head what was the example prayer that
jesus taught thy will be done we should be praying for god's why are we praying for god's will to be
done if god's will is done in absolutely everything i mean it is absurd isn't it now it's such
ridiculous false doctrine that really that should kind of consign john calvin to the scrap heap
shouldn't it okay that should be the end that book should have really just been used for probably
kindling at best yeah if you could be bothered to leave it in the kindling pile and risk actually
glancing down at that rubbish and offending your eyes yeah but somehow that didn't happen
why because it's a load of unsaved worldly people just you know trying to get all theological and
all like profound and everything else and they love this sort of junk don't they but we're
going to go back to first timothy chapter two where we started as it leads on to our next point
so go back to first timothy chapter two because this sovereignty god's will is done at all times
garbage is basically the basis of the famous tulip acronym okay the tulip acronym now like i said
john calvin didn't come up with that but he did teach all of the vain babblings which make it
but before we do that just the first few verses of first timothy two do show that god's will isn't
a given in life okay look at first timothy chapter two and verse one first timothy two one
says i exhort therefore that first of all supplications prayers intercessions and giving
of thanks be made for all men for kings and for all that are in authority that we may lead a quiet
and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty so this is paul encouraging supplications prayers
intercessions to give you thanks especially for kings and those in authority is that something
that we all do does everyone do that no i don't you have to do a raise of hands because i know
most people in here probably don't do that but is it something that god wants us to do yeah it's
something god wills us to do but we don't do so straight away we see that god's will isn't always
done is it for this verse three is good and acceptable insight of god our savior so something
is amiss straight away here but the next verse seals the deal who will have all men to be saved
and come unto the knowledge of the truth what's god's will that all men are saved all men who
will have all men to be saved and come unto the knowledge of the truth do men do all men get saved
no all men don't get saved why because we have the choice because it's our choice it's our choice
whether or not we get saved or not and although this verse alone destroys most of the garbage
that came out of john calvin's mouth and the rest of these clowns that follow him let's have a look
anyhow yeah let's let's continue with this so tulip stands for in case you're wondering and i
always like i always forget the second one but tulip is total depravity unconditional election
limited atonement irresistible grace and perseverance of the saints
does it sound so theological so it's like so clever isn't it the way the way they did that
with tulip as well it must be true right but all it really does just completely ruin what is quite
a pretty flower isn't it it's pretty pretty yeah a lot of tulips in holland isn't it it's holland
where most of the tulips come from that really nice flat but unfortunately it kind of you always
when you think of a tulip if you're kind of you know if you know about this stuff it just makes
you think of that disgusting five-point calvinist nonsense doesn't it so the title of my sermon is
you know is five profane and vain babblings of calvinism and by the way this isn't the only five
i would say that first one the goddess sovereign and basically ordains all sorts of filth and
sickness in this world and the rest of it is not just a profane and vain babbling that is just
full-on wickedness isn't it but we're going with profane and vain babblings and in case you're
wondering this is a five-point sermon and point number one is total depravity total depravity so
what what is total depravity and if you might be sitting there if you haven't heard this sort of
stuff before thinking what on earth total depravity this sounds pretty disgusting doesn't
it well this is a belief that man is completely touched or affected by sin in all that he is
in nature he is completely fallen now they like to add him but it's not as bad as he could be
in otherwise everyone would just be some murdering nut job wouldn't they okay so so they're kind of
like somewhere in between here furthermore this total depravity means that the unregenerate
will not of their own free will choose to receive christ so john calvin i think looked at himself
and realized that he was a complete depraved sicko okay so and i believe that a lot of these these
calvinists deep down know that they are completely depraved yeah so in a way there's probably some
truth to this but they claim that no one that everyone is so depraved that they couldn't choose
faith in jesus christ now part of the problem where they could because it i hope that you're
sitting there thinking how on earth does anyone come up with this sort of stuff well the problem
is that they confuse reprobates okay a lot of the times they confuse verses and passages teach us
about reprobates okay and that's they're people that have been given over to a recreate mind
that have rejected god change the truth that got into a lie and and have cut and there's a point
in life with some people where god gives them over they're done okay they are reprobate they
are totally depraved yes okay but that's not everyone okay not everyone i hope everyone here
is sitting here thinking yeah before i got saved i was so depraved i was so violent something might
have been a little bit depraved sometimes you can look back and the more you read your bible
thinking yeah that's pretty wicked yeah hopefully not so totally depraved that as these guys believe
you could not have chosen faith in jesus christ now it's a bit weird isn't it turn of revelation
22 we just read verse 4 then first timothy 2 which was who will have all men to be saved talking
about god our savior and to come unto the knowledge of the truth so god wants all men to be saved
what's the problem why are they not all saved their free will okay the free will of man is
the problem god wants people to choose to choose life revelation chapter 22 and verse 17 revelation
22 17 says and the spirit and the bride say come and let him that heareth say come let him that is
the first come and whosoever will let him take the water of life freely look everyone's inviting them
whosoever means anyone but that anyone has to will whosoever will they have to want to come
and take eternal life don't they okay and we go out and we preach the gospel and we try and
find people who want eternal life don't we turn to acts chapter 17 see they they're being told
to come but they have to want to they're being commanded aren't they they're being commanded
so well if you fancy it look they're being commanded by god but they still basically
disobey don't they they disobey them we all disobey god we all disobey god even as saved
christians we disobey them in many other areas of our lives don't we sadly we shouldn't but everyone
here does from time to time but look at act 17 and verse 30 act 17 30 says and the times of this
ignorance god winked at but now commandeth all men everywhere to repent they're commanded to
repent that's changed their mind turn from unbelief to faith in christ all men everywhere
what's the problem they choose not to okay i mean it's one of like this you know it's one of those
sermons where you think you are can i even can you even be bothered to kind of to go too deep
into it because it's so ridiculous it just goes against so many clear scriptures of the bible
doesn't it so we have free will they claim that we're so totally depraved that you couldn't
actually choose christ but the bible says that god commands all men everywhere to repent so it's
not that he's just choosing certain ones he wants everyone to put their faith in christ okay five
profane and vain babblings of calvinism number one is total depravity that one's just ridiculous
number two well they're all ridiculous number two is unconditional election unconditional
election remember we're going off this tulip acronym so we've had to tell you we've now got
to you unconditional election so god elects a person based upon nothing in that person
because there is nothing in him that would make him worthy of being chosen rather god's election
is based on what is in god god chose us because he decided to bestow his love and grace upon us
not because we are worthy in and of ourselves of being saved now just just a quick heads up here
i'm just giving a summary that kind of seemed to fit with quite a few things i was looking at
online but they'll be kind of varying you know you'll have the cabinets that's been misrepresented
that's what someone else said but it's all pretty much the same rubbish okay okay we can split hairs
but this is basically what these people believe but we'll just go off the unconditional election
i don't think many people are confused about what they basically are teaching
now just to make it clear of course we're not worthy okay no one here is worthy of getting
saved no one here was good enough no one here well just please god enough for anything else
to get saved it's not that we're better than anyone else but there is a condition to election
isn't there unlike what they could say there is conditional election the condition is faith in
jesus christ okay that's the condition to election that's what makes you elect which
is another way basically because it comes with the same word of saying selected and look turn
of romans chapter 10 that's what's funny about this doctrine they're redefining the word when
you elect someone it's based on criteria isn't it think about when someone's when a new mayor
a councillor a politician is elected it's based on a criteria you elect them okay they're your
choice based on maybe because they're not quite as hideous as the rest of them if you can be
bothered to vote but for for them to get that office it's based on what usually getting more
votes than anyone else there is a criteria for their election it's not at random is it
okay the word doesn't fit with just a random shut your eyes that one can get saved that one can't
now it's ridiculous that's not what it means does it well they've they've basically changed
you know changed the word elect because they love to go well look elect elect elect so then
you almost get like brainwashed if if you know for those who have been kind of who've been
subjected to this nonsense if you think well it does say elect yeah but elected is based on a
criteria okay so the whole thing is so ridiculous isn't it well then people almost oh i don't want
to read oh i don't know how how would i describe how would i explain that passage it does say the
word elect yeah they were elected based on criteria what's the criteria well the criteria
for old testament election was basically being that nation of israel they were the elect based
on the promises to abram based on their bloodline which now in new testament spiritual israel is
faith in christ right now don't get me wrong people always say by faith in christ but the term elect
has just now gone across to the to basically spiritual israel okay you're elect by by for
what reason by putting your faith in jesus christ and that's the criteria so they'll take these
verses that talk of god's elect and then they they'll then just basically you know go well
well look elect it's got to be some random chance thing that happened before the world began that
god just chose you and chose not you now here's the thing yeah theoretically you look at it and
you go well they're still not saying it's based on anything you did yeah so what's so good about
you know what what is it that makes them want to believe this because you know what when i when i
was first saved and i'm going to hold my hand up here i listened for a short period of time
to a wicked false prophet called john macarthur okay for a short time out of laziness i was like
well verse by verse that sounds pretty simple you know i don't really have to study so much i didn't
really you know understand much and what it makes you feel with this election nonsense is you still
feel kind of special and i was at a church an evangelical church where i first went to where
they it seemed believed all this nonsense as well so you still feel even though they're saying it's
not based on anything you've done it was before the world began you know god just kind of chose
you right you still feel a bit like well i am one of these elect aren't i you know now unfortunately
i started smelling a rat and i think the spirit was getting vexed and and praise god that i was
reading my bible and and i got out of this nonsense okay but i don't think everyone it's
not necessarily automatic for people i don't really know what our line is for that but so
like i said people who and i was saved yeah but i was conned a bit by this for a while
but what it did do is it did make me feel a bit kind of special yeah a bit good about myself well
thank god i'm one of the elect cheers for that yeah and it's a wicked doctrine isn't it and
it's a nonsense doctrine now what they'll do is they'll take verses on god's foreknowledge
i'll take verses on predestination predestined to a glorified body by faith in christ and god's
foreknowledge of the fact that we will be so god god's you know god's omnipresent isn't he
god knows the beginning from the end but then they'll apply that to that you were somehow just
selected sorry not selected because it's just at random chosen at random and you know and and that
was before the world began and god chose you to get to get saved and and put all that together
got this bizarre doctrine here now like i said the elect is saved what's the one criteria for
faith in christ look at romans 10 and verse 9 where it reads that if if notice that word
if thou shalt confess thy mouth to the lord jesus and shalt believe in thine heart that
god is raising from the dead thou shalt be saved the saved of the elect right the elect to the
same saved the elect what's the criteria believe in your heart that god is raised from the dead
confess your mouth the lord jesus if you do that you're saved the if is there because there's a
choice to make that's the choice we make who's the choice for well let's have a look for with
the heart man believeth unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto
salvation for the scripture saith whosoever that means anyone yeah anyone doesn't think that means
anyone no whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed that's anyone yeah anyone believes the
lord jesus christ they're saved their elect yeah for there is no difference between the jew and
the greek for the same lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him all means all
for whosoever look there's that whosoever again shall call upon the name of the lord shall be
saved unconditional election yeah right what a nonsense but let's continue with the nonsense
so go back to first timothy chapter two five profane and vain babblings of calvinism number one
total depravity number two unconditional election number three limited atonement
still it's sounding theological here isn't it these guys are so wise how could they be wrong
brother ian i must be wrong here maybe we just need to turn into calvinists then we sound more
clever don't we limited atonement basically now this one is is so ridiculous okay christ
bore the sin only of the elect not everyone who ever lived okay so basically when christ died when
christ shed his precious blood it was only for those that god had already randomly chosen for
no reason before the world began it just just last bit on unconditional election you know what
that's saying don't you that when god randomly chose people who were so depraved that they
couldn't choose jesus christ themselves that he was also just randomly choosing the vast majority
of everyone else to go to hell for eternity unbelievable isn't it because that's what they're
teaching there oh well and again well at least i'm saved well i'll go with that because at least
i'm one of the elect who's being taught this rubbish that's that's that's a mindset isn't it
what a nonsense but limited atonement now this one's so ridiculous so ridiculous because
of the tons of famous scriptures that so clearly debunk it okay tons tons of famous scriptures
that debunked this rubbish they're basically saying that christ only died for those who'd
already chosen like i said and and it basically is to prop up their random election doctrine
okay because otherwise um so that their random election doctrine because it wouldn't make any
sense would it because well why is christ dying for everyone if god already had only chosen certain
people so they kind of have to fit this one in you know thank god that tulip's got those
letters because it just fits in nicely doesn't it yeah so they fit this in otherwise the random
election would make no sense would it the problem like i said is a versus galore that say otherwise
because savages offered to all now we're in first timothy two i think which said for this is good
and acceptable in the sight of god our savior who will have all men all means all all men to be saved
and to come unto the knowledge of the truth now that's all people isn't it does all mean all
yeah i you know i'm no expert scholar okay i'm you know i'm not the wisest man that ever lived but i
don't know for me when i see all i just see all yeah i don't know about you guys i see all but
apparently the calvary doesn't see all there okay not the random sum the all yeah verse five for
there is one god and one mediator between god and men the man christ jesus now just quickly on this
anyone uh commercial break here anyone ever heard the jesus is god deniers using this verse before
anyone ever heard that before no so i saw this somewhere recently someone said well
first timothy two five for one for there is one god and one mediator between god and men the man
christ jesus but we just saw verse three which says for this is good and acceptable in the sight
of god our savior who's our savior god what does jesus mean savior jesus christ is god
he's 100 god but he's also 100 human right that's why it says between god and men the man christ
jesus anyway let's continue verse six who gave himself a ransom for all there's that all again
to be testified in due time so he gave himself a ransom for all but apparently according to
calvinist that was just all the randomly chosen elect yeah no the bible says he gave himself a
ransom for all to be testified in due time now turn to john three just in case you're somehow
still not convinced like i said you could go to many places in the bible but these are just some
famous ones john three makes it clear that all doesn't just mean all the random pre-chosen
john chapter three and verse 14 says this john 3 14
and as moses lifted up the servant in the wilderness this is john 3 14
even so must the son of man be lifted up that whosoever that whosoever believeth in him should
not perish but have eternal life i don't know about i think i've heard this verse before they
must not have heard this verse before for god so loved what he loved just the elect
for god so loved just a random group of people no for god so loved the world the world that he
cast most of them into hell for eternity without any choice about it no for god so loved the world
that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have
everlasting life in case that's not enough let's look at verse 17 for god sent not his son into
the world to condemn the world but that the world through him might be saved it's open to the world
isn't it pretty clear isn't it or is that just the world of pre-chosen i mean it's just it's
just unbelievable isn't it okay so again that one is is ridiculous it's preposterous
verse uh so number sorry five points here so number one was total depravity number two was
unconditional election number three was limited atonement that one was probably the the most
easily debunkable in fact they all are number four is irresistible grace anyone heard of that
one before my church really irresistible grace right now this is a quick description of this
the term unfortunately suggests a mechanical and coercive force upon the unwilling subject
this is funny i like this yeah this is not the case instead it is the act of god making the
person willing to receive him it does not mean that a person cannot resist god's will
okay it means that when god moves to save regenerate a person the sinner cannot thwart
god's movement and he will be regenerated so yes they cannot resist god's will what a nonsense
isn't it so because it sounds so ridiculous they've kind of like oh no it doesn't mean that
we'll reword it it means that when god moves to regenerate a person they cannot thwart god's
movement and he will be regenerated but it doesn't mean that he forced it yes he does force it
okay that's what it's saying basically if you're elect then you're getting saved that's what they're
saying if you're elect if you're randomly chosen you will get saved it's irresistible nothing can
change that okay because god's chosen you to get saved you will get saved yeah now just just
quickly on this are you kind of noticing what all of this is kind of just putting a well
at least putting a real dampener on soul winning when you if you believe this stuff say you are
saved so like i said i was saved i listened to some of this for a little while and in my mind was
obviously not elect then i want to hear it well is it even worth going out and preaching the gospel
they're gonna get saved anyway it's irresistible they're they're elect how could they go against
god's will might as well put my feet up by the way anyone had any calvinists knocking the door
recently you know there's a lot of them around because we often say don't we we're like well
you know there's you know where's the correct god because some of them claim to have the correct
gospel but do they knock on the door no do you see them out soul winning you know seeing them
pounding the streets oh no they must have a different way of doing it no they just put
their feet up and go well if they're elect they're gonna get saved it's such a nonsense
but it's wicked really isn't it because look when i when i was first saved and i was zealous and i
was thinking i need to get people saved that weakened me right at the beginning i was like
yeah i don't know do i really need to i just said john mccarthy carry on explained the bible to me
put my feet up you know and and hey well thank god i'm one of the elect that was quite hand quite
handy that my wife was elect as well you know brilliant let's hope the kids are elect yeah
it is it's madness isn't it absolute madness well okay so well let's continue anyway because
we might as well just quickly quickly show the ridiculousness of this so so you know we could
we could just with this we could just go over the many scriptures that we've already looked at to
show that god wants all men to be saved okay so already you know that's kind of debunked with that
but and and by the way if because god wants everyone to be saved what would be the result
if god's will was done in that and if it was and if and if it was irresistible basically everyone
at the age of understanding whatever age that is five six seven eight whatever it is for for
a job everyone just be getting saved wouldn't they everyone in the world would just be getting saved
if god's will was just done across the board but no because we're not robots and no because god
wants us to choose and we have that choice and and just a quick thing on that because i know like
some of this you know sometimes people can get pulled into this because they want to understand
but why all these people going to hell but you know maybe it is just because then you know god's
how could they not choose because people don't choose god that's the truth and it's hard yeah
and it can be gutting and it's gutting when you when you preach god's son who knows it's right
and i've had people i had family members who know it's true they're not trying to debate and argue
it and go i just think it's a load of rubbish they just don't choose faith in christ they don't they
don't want to acknowledge god they don't want maybe that light shining on them they whatever
it is they don't want to accept that maybe they're not good enough they don't accept that
they're that they're that their sins would take them to hell whatever it is it's look but that's
the truth that's the truth of life and god gives us the choice but these people don't want to
believe that so turn to second peter chapter three where we do see that god is patient with us
wanting us to get saved what's the problem men choose not to men choose not to
second peter three nine second peter three nine says this
the lord is not slack concerning his promise as as some men count slackness but his long
suffering to us would not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance
what do you say any he's not willing that any should perish god doesn't want people to go to
hell now we're talking about people as they're bored into this world as they live now obviously
there gets to a point you know where there are some people that that god does hate yeah he hates
reprobates he hates children of the devil he hates people that have rejected that gift rejected god
that have gone the other way and chosen chosen the devil okay now but they're still fair well
i'd hope to say they're few and far between but from the beginning he's not willing that any
he's not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance okay god doesn't
want people to be reprobate god wants people to get saved okay but there comes a point where they
cross the line sadly where they won't but that's not god's will he's not willing that any should
perish but that all should come to repentance now who is he talking about then if the people getting
saved are just the elect because can the elect perish apparently not so if he's not willing it's
the same people that any should perish but that all should come to repentance
i mean just first after verse it's such a nonsense isn't it
but in case you're still wondering god's will isn't always done you don't have to end up
at titus 2 11 says for the grace of god that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men
is it irresistible then no way okay the grace of god that bringeth salvation hath appeared to
all men we you just looked at second beta 390 he's not willing that any should perish
but that all should come to repentance five profane and vain babblings of cavernism number
one total depravity number two unconditional lecture number three limited atonement number
four irresistible grace and number five is perseverance of the saints okay what does
perseverance of the saints mean that we are so secure in christ that we cannot fall away now
this is another sneaky one where you've got a lot of different ends of the spectrum with that so
you've got it can it can sound like eternal security amen we believe in eternal security
here right okay look once saved always saved nothing can change that yeah you put your faith
in jesus christ you cannot go to hell otherwise it's work salvation okay clear as day isn't it
okay there's no line there's no like god didn't give a line or whatever sin you think you can't
do that you can then then cast to everyone else as a line that would still make them go to hell no
once you believe you have everlasting life okay it's grace through faith it's not of yourselves
it's a gift of god not of works ascending matchable okay that's clear as day so they use that and
they'll use verses which clearly teach eternal security they'll use like john 10 28 you know
to 29 a verse like this and then try and teach that you will persevere in the faith till the end
and and again there's different ends of spectrum some who you would literally if you didn't go
to church for a month that you probably weren't saved okay and others you know different ends
like i said different kind of amounts of this they'll put in there some that would be well
you could fall away but you would always come back some will you will always eventually end
your life in the face and there's different different amounts of this but what a lot of
these guys really believe is that if you're not in church you're not saved okay that's what they
really believe if you don't go to church you're not saved and they believe if you've got someone
if you've gone out and got someone saved and they don't turn up at church then they must not have
been saved okay that you didn't really get saved they probably weren't the elect they probably just
paid lip service they probably didn't really believe but how many people here went to church
the second they got saved no no how many people here have been in church week in week out ever
since they got saved you bunch of wicked little hand out there i'm joking okay because it varies
isn't it it varies and and how many people here know people that are saved and aren't in church
would probably have never really been part of a church yeah yeah okay so but they they all say if
you're persevering in the faith you know if you're not persevering in the faith then you're not saved
now it's kind of reverse works where they're constantly judging salvation by works and again
this can can infect all of us and many people like many people like to find the a way of judging
someone's salvation don't they well you know not in church much are they really saved got them
saved don't even want to come to church what sort of uh what sort of a christian is that or or maybe
what they say oh i'm sorry i they say they're saved but they're still doing this sin they're
still in this sin they're still no other than obvious signs of reprobation okay obvious signs
of reprobation it's there's not really there's not a kind of a uh like a a leveling whatever you
want to call it like a measuring stick sorry and and a lot of people like to find out some people
you know they you know they'll go with i've heard people you've probably heard people go well if
they're getting chastised well that's a good sign that they're saved or they're not saved because
they're not getting or they are getting chastised but how many people here know people who have got
nothing to do with the faith not even interested here in the gospel that seem to have what you
would probably call chastisement in life and how many people do you see that don't seem to get any
chastisement and and look you don't really know what's going on you don't know when that
chastisement is going to come or anything else like that now you could argue with this that many
of them are trusting in their so-called works as evidence of their salvation couldn't you
a lot of them you you feel like when they're standing before jesus christ they're going to
be saying lord lord have we not prophesied in thy name and in thy name of course that those in thy
name have done many wonderful works because it does seem to be their their measuring stick not
not really what's in the heart and what comes out of the mouth because that's the only way that that
look we can and it's not that we can know but that's really our measuring stick isn't it is
what comes out of someone's mouth turn to um turn to romans four which squashes this nonsense about
you know about about you know their work showing it well i read luke 6 45 which says a good man
out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good and an evil man out of
the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil for of the abundance of the heart
his mouth speaketh okay look that's how we really know okay now look that doesn't mean
that people can't lie yeah people do lie that doesn't mean that people can't kind of say they
believe and they don't really believe in their heart eventually eventually i believe it comes
out okay and eventually it does other than that look someone says they believe well praise god
yeah and and and treat them like a believer yeah if they're living in wickedness it disqualifies
him from church well treat them like a believer that needs just you know needs the chastisement
of god but regardless that's the only way we can we can really know for sure can't we barring like
i said if they're in clear blatant reprobate behavior type sins you know romans 4 5 says this
but to him that worketh not but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly his faith is counted
for righteousness it's our faith not our works it justifies yeah okay it's our faith it's not
you're not justified by your works whether it's pre-salvation or post-salvation the only way
you're justified is by faith in jesus christ god knows your heart the only way we we can really get
an idea is what what someone professes with their mouth right go to turn to john chapter eight
now some of these guys will argue that the christian may backslide for a while but if
they're really saved they will get it right like i said earlier okay and i've heard these guys come
out of this stuff before but maybe they want to tell that to king solomon do we know that he got
it right at the end how about king saul i mean last thing he did was saw the witch at endor and
then ended up killing himself what so was he not saved i mean i think the holy spirit came upon him
as much as samson i think they're probably pretty level aren't they in the old testament i mean look
it's ridiculous isn't it but what about here's another one i thought ananias and sephira
sapphire or however you want to say it again there's the bible didn't tell us that they're
unsaved we've got no reason to believe they are but they were lying to the holy ghost yeah and
they end up getting killed look we don't we don't know look you could have a bad end yeah but if
you're saved you're saved yeah now others say well if they're really saved then they will come
to their doctrine of devils church yeah that's what they believe they go well if they're saved
then they'll be in their wicked calvinist church if they're not clearly not saved yeah well they
can't be saved because they're not you know they're just listening to rank heresy week in
week out well in john chapter 8 we see the distinction between salvation and discipleship
look at this john chapter 8 verse 28 john 8 28 says then said jesus unto them when you have lifted
up the son of man then shall you know that i am he and that i do nothing of myself as my father
has taught me i speak these things and he that sent me is with me the father has not left me
alone for i do always those things that please him as he spake these words many believed on him
what does that mean they got saved yeah they got saved how'd you get saved believe in the
lord jesus christ that thou shalt be saved yeah they put their faith in the lord jesus christ
okay so as you spake these words many believed on him because the word of god that saves isn't
it the word of god that makes you want to put your faith in christ verse 31 says then said
jesus to those jews which believed on him if okay who's he talking to save people right those jews
which believed him if you continue in my word then then are ye my disciples indeed and you
shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free how do you get saved by believing on
jesus how do you become a disciple by continuing in his word okay is continuing in his word
necessary for salvation no what's what does it take to get saved believe on the lord jesus
christ and thou shalt be saved it's two separate things and look it would be great wouldn't it
wouldn't it be great for all those people you went out and got saved came to this job well we
need a new building for starters right okay in fact we probably need we probably need more like
a huge outdoor tent as well or something i don't know how we're doing yeah we need a field yeah
but that's not how it works does it okay getting saved and discipleship are two separate things
but the calvinist likes to put them together okay but that's not what the bible says jesus christ
said if you continue in my word then are you my disciples indeed he's talking to the jews
which believed on him all it takes for salvation is believing on the lord jesus christ okay the
bible says that time and time again go back to first timothy too
now first timothy too when we're talking about perseverance of the saints because
look you're like well okay well you know that's kind of continuing in his word like being you
know a top disciple if you're saved you're still gonna like do the things of god because everyone
loves to kind of have well you would at least do this you at least feel like this you at least
look first timothy too like most of the new testament i'm only going there just because
that's where we started is an exhortation or an encouragement to persevere because it's not
automatic is it it's not automatic to do the things of god it and it's so ridiculous this
this sort of doctrine like i said i've had it in churches where they don't even claim to be
calvinists where they're still saying well they would do this they would come to church they
would like what are you talking about because otherwise what is a like what would be the point
in most of this book telling us encouraging us instructing us how we should live because it's
not automatic is it because you need to read it you need to try you need to persevere you need
a battle with the flesh and and we all of us here will fail from time to time if not for many times
to time yeah but that's why the bible's there that's why the word of god that's why we should
be reading the word of god every day because it's constantly encouraging us to do that and first
timothy two is no different paul said in verse six who gave himself a ransom for all yeah don't
forget that all to be testified in due time where unto i am ordained a preacher and an apostle i
speak the truth in christ and lie not a teacher of the gentiles in faith and verity i will i will
okay therefore that men pray everywhere lifting up holy hands without wrath and doubting so the
holy spirit is speaking through paul agreed yeah okay i think most people understand that with the
bible that you know holy men of god speaks they're moved by the holy ghost yeah or many god's face
okay as they were moved by the holy ghost so so the holy spirit speaks through paul
god's will is that men pray everywhere yeah that they're holy that's what he's talking about
lifting up holy hands that they're basically on the outward appearance are holy not wrathful
not doubting is that the case with everyone is that the case any everyone here just go yeah you
know i pray everywhere i lift up holy hands you know i never have wrath i never doubt no but whose
will is it that we do that god's god god's will writing through paul is that that men pray
everywhere lift up holy hands without wrath and doubting but it's because it's not automatic
and because we don't persevere do we we should but we don't like the rest of the bible it's
constantly trying to encourage us to live right verse 9 in like manner also that women adorn
themselves in modest apparel with shame face in this and sobriety not with broidered hair
or gold or pearls or cosy array but which become women professing godliness with good works is that
the case amongst safe women is that automatic i mean probably there's people here that have
probably gone through these battles they're women here that may be gone through the battle with the
world constantly trying to tell them to basically dress like what until recently was how a hook
addressed yeah and and or cross-dress like a man because that's what the world tells you the world
must be right yeah and look for some i understand i'm not saying it's easy for some women it's hard
yeah they feel like it's their identity it's their wardrobe right now i've got to you know
just just suddenly change like how i dress and everything else because it's not automatic is it
and there are there are saved women who will never stop cross-dressing who will never stop
dressing like whores but they're still saved they're still saved yeah there might be an
abomination in god's sight but they're still saved but his will his will because he's just said i will
therefore that men pray everywhere lift up holy hands without wrath and doubting in like manner
also it's still his will right in like manner also that women adorn themselves in modest apparel
how many women don't adorn themselves in modest apparel god wants you to but you don't
with shame facing this and sobriety not with broided hair okay that's kind of making a big
big show of your hair not trying to that be your outward outward appearance or gold or pearls or
kosia ray but which become if women professing godliness with good works now he's not saying
you can't wear any jewelry what he's saying is is that is that you're adorning what what you're
showing to other people should be should be what comes from inside should be your good works should
be your you know women professing college should be a godly woman that should be you adorning okay
but that's not automatic is it verse 11 let the woman learn in silence with all subjection
but i suffer not a woman to teach nor to usurp authority over the man but to be in silence is
that happening everywhere is it happening everywhere a woman are women just learning
in silence with all subjection is that just automatic is that are they just because they
love to pick and choose don't they oh perseverance is like going to the going to the calvinist church
that's perseverance yeah well okay yeah sure we shouldn't forsake the assembly of ourselves
together the manner of summits but that ain't happening in in the calvinist church anyway because
most of them are unsaved so you're not you're not actually persevering anyway going there
but what about the rest of it you can't just pick and choose oh well i go to church i wear a stupid
beret on my head because i believe that that's somehow a head covering because i didn't get to
the end of the chapter talking about actual long hair yeah well you know i i i i go to church and
i listen to some rubbish preaching once a week so i start persevering in the face they don't even
read their bibles mostly because if they did they wouldn't be into this nonsense would they
but but but they go there dressed in their trousers dressed in their skin tight stuff
showing all their curves and everything else are women there and i'm not just picking on the women
because what the men doing in those places well most of them could lead a woman if it if it you
know if if well if they tried and they don't even try do they try no because that would be too
against you know society and the rest of the brainwash that they've received but the bible
says let the women learn the science of subjection okay that's persevering isn't it they don't do
that what about the teaching usurping authority over the man i bet half of those sell out wishy
washy henpecked men at those calvinist churches i bet there's that that authority is being usurped
over them every day maybe not in public in the church maybe but i reckon the second they get
out of there getting slapped around the face and told off for whatever they did in there
i bet they are i bet they're getting the beret whack
because look it's a lie isn't it they're a bunch of liars and they're not persevering for adam was
first formed beneath and adam was not deceived but the woman being deceived was in the transgression
notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith and charity and holiness
with sobriety now what's the condition there to being saved in childbearing for
i think from that you can see for that labor to go well for them because childbearing is
a high-risk thing isn't it what is it if they continue in faith and charity in holiness with
sobriety if they persevere because it's not automatic is it because being a christian
doesn't mean you're automatically going to persevere in the faith if they persevere it's
not automatic and by the way it's a they there if they i believe it says she shall be saved child
bearing if they continue i think that's that's a husband and wife there okay and and men you know
if you've got pregnant wives and everything else you need to be persevering in the faith yourselves
as well to you know if you want to make sure that that that that that labor goes well so
it's not automatic there's a condition there what's the condition the condition is persevering okay
perseverance of the faith doctrine is nonsense absolute nonsense like the rest of the garbage
of calvinism it's profane and vain babblings those are five profane and vain babblings there
are many more amongst different calvinist churches just in case you're unsure and and you hear this
tulip acronym spouted at you it means total depravity for the t the u is unconditional
election the l is limited atonement the i is irresistible grace and the p is perseverance
of the saints and the whole lot of it is a load of old rubbish on that let's pray
father i thank you for your word i thank you that that we as you know just saved men women children
of god here just you know could read the bible and just take it for what it says and we we don't
have to have these puffed up false prophets telling us you know what the bible does and
doesn't say when we can just open it up and read exactly what you do say that you're not willing
that any should perish but that all should come to repentance that you make it so clear in in the
word of god that you want the whole world to be saved sadly the vast majority don't but that's not
not your will that's their will lord we we pray that it will help us to go out this afternoon and
preach your gospel to people because how how shall they hear you know without a preacher and
that's the way you've ordained it you want us to go out and preach the gospel to people please help
us to all all want to do that to all go out and preach to people preach that they can have that
you know they have that choice to put their faith in jesus christ lead us to receptive people lord
who are willing to do that and in jesus name for all of this amen