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Welcome the strong to our Baptist Church on Sunday morning service
If you don't have a bulletin, it'd be great to raise your hand if you don't have one of these
and if you do have one
we've got our
we've got on the front there
that's a picture of Dover Castle
on the front of the bulletin there
we have our verse of wheat there
it's 1 Corinthians 5 and 11
1 Corinthians 5 and 11
which is
but now I've written unto you not to keep company
if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator
or covetous or an idolater
or a railer or a drunkard
or an extortioner with such an one
or a road not to eat
and that's going to go with the morning message
we'll be looking at that verse and others shortly
have a look on the inside of your bulletins
and you and I at 10.30am
Sunday morning service
our Sunday evening service is as usual at 4pm
and it is in the book of Proverbs
back in the book of Proverbs in chapter 28
it's going to be part 2 of Proverbs 15 this evening
we finish off chapter 28
only a few more left in our series of Proverbs
and then on Wednesday evening
we're going to be still in the book of Isaiah
and it's going to be Isaiah
in chapter 32 this Wednesday evening
that's a Wednesday evening
prayer and Bible study service
please send in prayer requests for that service
as well you're not going to send them in
as and when they come up
you don't have to wait until the request is put out
just make it clear that that's for the Wednesday service
soul winning times are down there as well
we've got soul winning as usual
at 1.30pm this afternoon
and as usual if you haven't
please just let the ushers know
if you're planning to go soul winning
whether or not you prefer to be out on the high street
or knocking doors
whether or not you have transport as well
that would be useful as well
whether or not you're a talker or a silent partner
that's going to be at 1.30pm or by 1.30pm
ideally latest to get out
and it's less of a rush
also getting back as well for the service
Monday evening soul winning
as is usual at 4pm
that's over in Mitcham
6.30pm on a Tuesday
Wednesday is over here in South Bend
and Thursday evening at 6.30pm in Tilbury
we had a really good week of soul winning in the end
a lot of salvation
over those soul winning times
and we end up with 95 for January
so that's a great number
that's the best January we've ever had
so well done everyone
it's been some great effort over this month
for what's usually a cold
and pretty bleak time for many
to get 95 people
calling on the name of the Lord is amazing
so great work everyone
and praise God that you know he's led us to those people
we also have marathons at the end of each month
and extra in Sheffield soul winning continues
and the times vary
Sheffield's often on the Sunday
and Exeter they go out usually on the Sunday
sometimes in the week as well
like I said we've got 95 for January
we're yet to get off the mark for February
hopefully we will today
it takes up to 3, 6, 9, 5 out of the UK church here
but we also have a couple of overseas groups
we have a group over in South Africa
that are up to 22 Salations
and 14 over in Switzerland
they had a really good weekend
there with 7 or 8 over the weekend
for the Swiss
it takes the international groups up to 7, 7, 9
since they became our soul winning groups out there
we're yet to get off the mark for baptisms
it would be great to get some baptisms going
and we have our attendance total baptisms down there as well
the announcement is an upcoming event
so the next soul winning marathon is going to be in Dartford
and for a few reasons
it's quite a busy shop here
there's some good outdoor sports there
there's also some pretty receptive looking roads there as well
it's really good, we haven't done Dartford
so far it's been soul winning there actually
oh he's hiding round the back there
he's trying to get out of my sight
there it is
I've been there with Gary
it's good, it's receptive though
many years ago we went to Dartford
it's not too far, should be quite an easy trip for most
so that's going to be the end of
well it's the last Saturday of February which isn't actually very far away
it's three weeks away
being one of those months February with the shorter days
it's going to be an event
it will be an event in Dartford
I should have made that clear there
it'll be the afternoon 3 to 4 hours of soul
followed by a meal afterwards
it'll be the usual meeting around 12.30
and then getting out
so that's going to be
Saturday the 22nd
and then
I wanted to put in there as well
just because the way the day is full
the Saturday before Mother's Day
will be the last Saturday of the month
where we'll have the soul winning marathon
so Saturday the 23rd will be
the Mother's Day outing
so that's the ladies
ladies outing
friendly ladies here
you're welcome to be involved with that
so as we get closer
just keep that in your calendars for that Saturday
to be able to be hopefully available for that
Sunday the 13th is our once a year Lord's Supper service
so we do it once a year here
it's a big event here
it's going to be obviously in the PM service
that's going to be Sunday the 13th
which is the week before Easter
which is on the 20th
we'll have a celebration here on Easter Sunday
we'll provide some food as well
on Easter Sunday
and then I'm sorry that this keeps changing
so if you're wondering if you're seeing things
the Manchester Preachers Soul Winning event
it's a long story
but basically this is a definite date
so sorry if anyone started making plans
or trying to take time off anything
before now
but it is definitely
it's May the 30th
it's Friday the 30th
the Soul Winning is on Saturday the 31st
so it's May the 30th
will be the preaching event
we'll have a fellowship meal
and some time up there in Manchester
and then on the 31st is our Soul Winning marathon
so that's going to be
part of that UK Cities tour
Manchester's our next stop
May the 30th to 31st
and that will not change now
so apologies if that's changed a couple of times
and we've got a new Bible memory challenge as well
and my Bible memory challenge
is 6 verses 6 weeks
as usual and this time it's going to be
from 1 Kings chapter 8
and from verses 56 onwards
it's 1 Kings
chapter 8 and verse 56 is
Blessed be the Lord that hath
given rest unto his people Israel
according to all that he promised
there hath not failed one word
of all his good promise which he promised
by the hand of Moses his servants
first one of six there
if you can memorise all six over the next
six weeks then you get a prize
I would definitely try and do one each week
good for the long term memory and secondly
you're more likely to get it right
these might be a bit harder to swat up last minute
for any of you that try and do that
definitely try and get these memorised early
please turn your mobile phones off
play some more silent if you haven't already
for the service or airplane mode
whatever you need to do there
can you remember
to keep the pew bibles
for pew bibles
on one hand they seem to have reduced
and then secondly
one of them looks like it's been through a tumble dryer
or something or a washing machine
but I worked out I think someone must have taken it
soul winning in the rain
so please the pew bibles
they're at the back there
for the church
their congregation bibles for people that don't have them
please if you need something for soul winning
just take a giveaway bible for your soul winning
please don't take the ones
that are for people that don't have a bible
when they come into the church
and if you have taken any
if you don't mind giving them back
they're just annoying to have to try and keep ordering more of those
because they're meant to just stay in the church
if you need a bible let me know
we do have bibles up there if you don't have a bible as well
okay and then
birthdays anniversary
we have
we've got Lincoln for yesterday
so happy birthday Lincoln for yesterday
if you're watching
we've got Emanuela is today
and Francesca is today
so happy birthday Emanuela for today
so I haven't said happy birthday yet
Francesca I have
happy birthday Francesca for today
so Emanuela and Francesca
you get a joint birthday sing along
when you're ready
happy birthday
happy birthday Francesca
I hope you guys are having a good day so far
and hopefully it continues to be a good day as well
we've got
next we've got an anniversary
we've got the Satin Brewers on the 5th
so we'll wish you a happy birthday on Wednesday
if you're here and you might not be
they're going to celebrate their anniversary in church
that's what we're talking about
love for that guys
I'm only joking
great to
it'll be great to have you guys here on the 5th
happy birthday
happy anniversary to Satin Brewers
if you're wondering who Nicole is
we've also got our French
group members
I want to include them on our birthdays anniversary
they're part of our church
I'm also going to be including our group over in South Africa
I'm just waiting for them to send them over to me as well
so happy birthday to Nicole for Wednesday
Nicole's one of the members
of the French speaking group
over in Switzerland there
and then we've got a few more coming up after that
so please let my wife know your
birthdays and anniversaries if you haven't
sorry to put you on the spot there Junior
whether you were going to be here
or not
online donations are available
if you want details let me know
we're family integrated here
and just to remind you that
we do have those mother and father baby rooms
please use them as you need them
but please no men in the mother
baby rooms, no women please in the father
baby rooms and please no children
unattended in the building at all times
and obviously afterwards in the fellowship
times as well
on that we'll pass back over, thank you
you
please turn your Bibles to the
book of First Corinthians
chapter 5
that's the book of First Corinthians
chapter 5
so the Bible reads First Corinthians
chapter 5 starting in
verse 1
it is reported commonly that there is
fornication among you
and such fornication as is not
so much as named among the Gentiles
that one should have
his father's wife
and you are puffed up and have not rather
mourned that he that has done
this deed might be taken away
from among you for I
verily as absent in body
but present in spirit
have judged already as though
I were present concerning him
that has so done this deed
in the name of our Lord
Jesus Christ
when you are gathered together and my
spirit with the power of our Lord
Jesus Christ to deliver
such an one unto Satan for
the destruction of the flesh
that the spirit may be saved in
the day of the Lord Jesus
your glorying is not good
know you not that a little leaven
leaveneth the whole lump
purge out therefore the old leaven
that you may be a new lump as you are
unleavened for even Christ our
Passover is sacrificed for
us therefore let us keep
the feast not with old leaven
neither with the leaven of malice
and wickedness but with the
unleavened bread of sincerity
and truth I wrote unto
you in an epistle not to
company with fornicators
yet not altogether with the fornicators
of this world or with the
covetous or extortioners
or with idolaters for then
must ye need to go out of the world
but now I have written unto you not
to keep company if any man
that is called a brother be a fornicator
or covetous or an
idolater or a railer
or a drunkard or an extortioner
with such an one know not
to eat for what have I to do
to judge them also that are without
do not ye judge them
that are within but them
that are without God judgeth
therefore put away from among yourselves
that wicked person
Let's pray. Heavenly Father we thank you Lord
Thank you very much for the book of Corinthians
We pray Lord just please feel
past the tavern of your spirit
Please Lord help us to be attentive to the message
and to apply what we learned today
to our lives and we pray in Jesus' name
Amen
Amen, right, we're in
1 Corinthians chapter 5
It's quite a short chapter
and I just want to remind you
of those last few verses again
before I tell you what we're going to be talking about
1 Corinthians 5 and verse 11
says this, 1 Corinthians 5
11 but now I've written unto you not to keep company
if any man that is called a brother
be a fornicator or covetous
or an idolater or a railer or a drunkard
or an extortioner with such
an one know not to eat for what
have I to do to judge them also that are without
do not ye judge them that are within but them
that are without God judgeth
therefore put away from among yourselves
that wicked person
and the title of my sermon this morning is
Disfellowship in the Christian Life
so disfellowship in the Christian life
I'd like to pray before we get going
Father thank you for your word
Lord the clear teaching you give us on this topic
Lord this subject
about who we should and shouldn't
be fellowshipping with Lord
how that works
in the New Testament church Lord
how that doesn't work outside
of it and Lord just
help me to preach this message
I've thought about for quite a while now
studying for a little while
now as well just in the right way
in a way that people will be edified
by it where people just understand it
that people have an open heart as they listen to the message
as well and just know prayer for this Amen
okay so it's
disfellowship in the Christian life and in case you're wondering
who's about to get thrown out
okay and you're starting to look and wonder
are the ushers starting to creep around
and don't worry
this isn't one of those
type of sermons
there's no one that I'm aware of and that could change in an hour
so I don't know it depends how you react to the sermon
but that
is what disfellowshiping ultimately is
when it comes to the New Testament church
it's people that sadly
sometimes it's a good thing
but often it's because people
have gone into some sort of sin or other
and the Bible says to disfellowship
which means to basically stop fellowship
to remove them
from the church
and like I said it's not a reactionary sermon
okay it's hopefully going to be an informative
sermon but I want to look at how to interpret
these verses as well because
this is important stuff for a church
to understand not just to avoid being
on the wrong end of this okay for everyone in here
but also to know how to apply elsewhere
in your life as well
because there are extremes out there on both
ends of the scale okay so most churches
most churches just don't want to touch this at all
most churches out there
I'm generalizing but it's true
okay will not want to touch these verses
at all they'd want to pretend that
fornication means something else
and even you know and I'm not just talking about all
the many just kind of joke
versions of churches but you know
fairly legitimate seeming churches
out there they just don't really want to get
involved with this they want to pretend like I said that fornication
is just kind of you know something that they can
categorize and not depending on
who it is and what it is and try and
really ignore most of this
and probably swap it all or maybe they
see this and just see
Zionist non-compliance
instead you know and everything else is fair game
so you get that in churches sadly
but then there might be people that are on the opposite end as well
where any hint of these sins
past or present means disfellowship
you know right okay
they mention money once
it must be covetous or something else
whether saved in or out of
church etcetera and maybe there are people that have
a very extreme view on the other side
so you know I want to try and get
to the bottom of what exactly how we should
behave as church members as a church
with all the this in mind
so today we're going to look at how to apply it
and a few other verses and hopefully learn or at least
get a reminder about the subject
now here in 1 Corinthians 5 the Apostle Paul
is writing to what is a pretty
carnal church here in Corinth
they have some big problems clearly
at least when he wrote this first epistle
the particular problem that he's dealing with
in this letter is fornication
he said in verse 1 here we're going to look
again for verse 1 it's a short chapter
let's just understand what's going on here verse 1 said
it is reported commonly
that there is fornication among you
and such fornication as is not
so much as named among the Gentiles
that one should have his
father's wife so it seems to be common
knowledge this keep a finger
here though and turn to Matthew 5
Matthew 5 you're turning to
but obviously keep a finger here we're going to be
regularly coming back here so you can put a bullet in here
a ribbon here if you've got that in your Bible
you turn to Matthew 5 now fornication
is the act of physical relations
outside of marriage he said that it's
commonly known that there's fornication
going on so it's between
basically two unmarried
people because if you include
a married person it becomes adultery
and it is distinguished from
adultery in a number of verses
such as here in Matthew 5 okay
so this is separate to adultery
Matthew chapter 5 and verse 31
says this Jesus Christ said
it has been said whosoever
shall put away his wife let him give
her a writing of
divorcement now putting away
is another way of saying divorce that's why he said
if you put away you give a writing of divorcement
he says this in verse 32
though but I say unto you that whosoever
shall put away his wife saving
for the cause of fornication
causeth her
to commit adultery so clearly two separate
things and whosoever shall marry her
that is divorced committeth
adultery now what he's
referring to here about
for the cause of fornication is
the one exception the one exception
to the no divorce sort
of rule you might put it you know
that the fact that he hates putting away but there is
one exception I'm just going to quote it
it's from Deuteronomy 24 one where
it says when a man has taken a wife and married
her and it come to pass that she find no
favour in his eyes because he has found some
uncleanness in her then let him
write her a bill of divorcement and give it
in her hand and send her out of his house so
it's said that he finds some
uncleanness in her so basically
this is when and we've just seen it here
described as saving for the cause of fornication
it's basically when someone thinks they're marrying
a virgin it turns out that she wasn't
okay she had previously committed
fornication now he's not saying you have to
divorce her but he's put that
in place because of probably the bitterness
the problems that would cause in that
marriage and you know he said it was
for the hardness of their hearts that he allowed
that to be so because some people would just
find that too hard to get over
okay so this is this isn't sort of further
down the line going okay well let's use this
as an excuse because she wasn't
a virgin this is someone who thought that she was
they found this they're not happy
okay this was the only grounds for divorce
and without that it's not a justified
divorce and you're causing that
wife to commit adultery
that's what he said here but they're separate
sins clearly yeah you can see that
these are separate things some people want to
combine it all together which his wife
you don't have to turn there but 1 Corinthians
7 you can if you want
but 1 Corinthians 7 says in verse 2
nevertheless to avoid
fornication let
every man have his own wife
and let every woman have her own husband
so you're avoiding fornication
by getting married because fornication
is between unmarried people okay
so verse 1 where it said
this in 1 Corinthians 5 it is reported
commonly that there is fornication among
you and such fornication as is not so much
as named among the Gentiles that one should
have his father's wife for it to be
fornication my thoughts are that
it was before she married this guy's father
because you're looking at this going wait a second
how does this work with it being the wife
for me and I know some people say
I don't
the father must be dead or something
I don't think so I think that
it's before they got
married that one should have his father's
wife so they probably just got married
and it had happened previously which
would line up with verse 2 which makes it seem
like it's not a continuous act it said in
verse 2 and you're puffed up and have not rather mourn
that he that hath done
past tense this deed
might be taken away from among you
for I verily as absent in body but present
in spirit have judged already
as I were present concerning him that has so done
this deed so the apostle Paul
he's made a judgment on this
situation he said in verse 4
in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ
when you're gathered together in my spirit with the power
of our Lord Jesus Christ to deliver such and one
unto Satan for the destruction
of the flesh that the spirit may
be saved in the day of the Lord
Jesus which is what happens to a believer who's
kicked out of church they get physically
destroyed but not spiritually
because they're saved they're still saved
okay he said in verse 6 your
glorying is not good know ye
not that a little leaven leaveneth
the whole lump so
he's basically said
he's just said that they should
be delivered unto Satan so why
this and that's disfellowship yeah
this is kicking them out of the church
and one reason is that sins like this affect
others he's just said know ye not that
a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump
he said that they were glorying perhaps
convincing themselves you can imagine how
liberal they were maybe oh we're just
such a liberal church we're not we're not judgmental
you know we don't mind a little bit of
fornication and stuff like that it's all
cool here because it's all grace here
isn't it right we don't judge people
judge not judge not maybe
they were coming out with that one
well maybe they were saying how
forgiving they are perhaps well we just
forgiven them you know so
you know these things happen or maybe
how Christ-like they were
maybe that's what they were glorying we're just so
Christ-like because anything goes in this church
well Jesus Christ the word of God
through the Apostle Paul said no give
them the boot that was being Christ-like
he said this person needs to be kicked
out of the church okay that's what Jesus
Christ said through the Apostle Paul
and one reason being that it will affect
others judgment of it
okay I think that's what he's saying you
know that a little leaven leaveneth the
whole lump when when you just allow
this sort of thing to go on in
in a church and it's just you know and
this was open common and regardless you
know when this is comes to light
other people are going to start to be
desensitized I start to think this is
okay that's just sadly how people are
people generally just follow a crowd
or follow examples don't they a lot of
the time and that's a big risk of
letting these sorts of things go on in
the church he said in verse 7 purge out
there for the old leaven that you may be
a new lump as you're unleavened for even
Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us
therefore let us keep the feast not with
old leaven neither with the leaven of malice
and wickedness but with the unleavened bread
and we are going to look at these verses
when we get closer to our Lord's supper
but he said we're one body and when we
come together for the Lord's supper we
don't want this malice and wickedness
amongst us said in verse 9 I wrote unto
you in an epistle not to company with
fornicators yet not altogether with the
fornicators of this world or with the
covetous or extortioners or with
idolaters for then must he needs go out
of the world but now I've written unto
you not to keep company of any man that
is called a brother be a fornicator or
covetous for an idolater or a railer or
a drunkard or an extortioner with such
and one know not to eat for what have I
to do to judge them also that are
without do not you judge them that are
within but then that are without God
judges therefore put away from among
yourselves that wicked person so Paul
has given this list of types of sinners
to kick out of the church and reminds
them that it's their job to judge those
inside the church okay which is what I
want to go through first these and a few
other types of sin that result in
disfellowship from a New Testament
Church it's important for us to all know
what they are how they apply what they
are and what they aren't okay he said in
verse 11 but now I've written unto you
not to keep company if any man that is
called a brother be a fornicator or
covetous for an idolater or railer or a
drunkard or an extortionary such one no
not to eat the title is disfellowship in
a Christian life and number one we're
going to look at being a fornicator being
a fornicator and like we've just seen it
is people having physical relations
outside of marriage okay outside of
marriage having that physical or sexual
relationship outside of marriage so for
example living with their someone living
with their boyfriend living with their
girlfriend or you know you could say
worse if you want depending on how you
look at it just whoring or
whoremongering around okay and listen it
might be common in the world but God
hasn't changed his mind okay this might
be a common sin in the world this might
be something that the world tries to
make out is okay but it's not okay okay
it's not okay God doesn't think it's
okay so we being a church which is
trying to do what God wants us to do
they're not going to go well it's okay
now because everyone else is doing it no
get right with God right get right with
God and resists his filth because that's
what he thinks it is it's filthy it's
disgusting he said in 1st Corinthians 6 18
to flee fornication I mean he's run the
other way not like dabble with it a
little bit it's not that bad fleeing
right every sin that a man doeth is is
without the body but he that commiteth
fornication sinneth against his own body
you see against your own body and both
both his own body as well the person
that does it being joined in one flesh
and the body of Christ to that whore or
whoremonger too because when you're part
of a New Testament Church apart the
body of Christ and you commit fornication
you're you're joining that body of
Christ to some whore or whoremonger
basically okay and God hates it right
that's fornication that's something that
we need to be as far away from as
possible as a church okay and for those
you know who who are singles in the
church just just put just put it right
that's just not an option that's over
there right that's how God wants you to
live number two he said a covetous he
said or covetous what is covetous it's
being inordinately which is irregular
disorderly excessive and moderate
desirous okay desirous or excessively
eager to obtain and possess directed to
money or goods another word that would
be similar avaricious a greedy of gain
and for example okay so examples of
covetousness thieving so if someone's
thieving in the church or something that
would just be a clear sign of
covetousness you know I don't know oh
well let him off let's just give him a
bit of grace no they left thieving that's
a covetous person they need to be
disfellowshipped with trading in the
church so people that are just coming
to church to make money out of people
that's a sign of covetousness okay and
of course look some people just don't
understand this stuff and you get you
try and explain to them but when you
clearly know that what you know that and
that's why some is like this for
important right and you should know that
they're coming to church trying to trade
and make money and and jet you know
improve your business and stuff that's
not what churches for and and there are
other things people that are just
constantly talking about money things
stuff etc it's a sign of covetousness
but another one that I add to
covetousness is adultery okay
adultery is covetousness so we don't go
oh someone's committed adultery but at
least they weren't fornicating no
problem hopefully they'll deal with it
between themselves and say no Exodus
2017 says thou shalt not covet thy
neighbor's wife yeah it's covetousness
it's not theirs to have and if someone
commits adultery in our church and it
and we know about that we're going to
kick them out the church okay number
three idolater what is an idolater an
idolater is a worshipper of idols so one
who pays divine honors to images
statues or representations of anything
made by hands one who worships as a
deity that which is not God so it's
someone who worships anyone or anything
is some sort of God basically okay and
and when you look at it like that
there's a lot of idolatry around and we
need to be and there's something I
wouldn't be afraid to invoke if I need
it okay don't make idols out of people
don't make idols out of things don't
make idols out of anything it's
idolatry okay and just to remind you
Psalm 96 5 says for all the gods of the
nations are idols but the Lord made the
heavens and this is look this is also
this isn't dry consider it's only for
those you know Indians with their you
know because I know some people just
interpret it like that oh yeah with all
their idols in Hinduism or something
like that maybe if they got saved they
might have a problem with this now this
is a common thing okay I mean the
Apostle John finished I think it's first
John with little children keep yourself
from idols okay this was the one point
he wanted to really leave was keep
yourself from idols okay and and an
idolater where all the gods of the
nations are idols according to Psalm 96
5 but the Lord made the heavens that
it's not then just the graven images
like crucifixes or Buddha statues or
elephant gods and things like that it's
also an idolater would include a member
with maybe one foot in our church and
the other in Repent of your sins Baptist
yeah I'm talking about a member I'm not
talking about a newcomer I'm not talking
about a visitor I'm not talking about
someone that's not but someone who's a
member of our church who's a saved
seeming saved member of our church but
also they're going to some some idol
some false version of God of worshiping
now that's an idolater they're an idolater
and they're we're told to disfellowship
with them okay that's an idolater number
four is a railer a railer now the
dictionary definitions of railing are
usually incorrect okay to complain
harshly blame insult and things like that
it tries to say in certain dictionaries
well that would make Jesus Christ a
railer okay Jesus Christ harshly blamed
Jesus Christ gave insult sometimes when
they were needed for people Jesus Christ
complained about certain people etc and
and so did in fact most of most of the
prophets in the Bible would probably
have to be kicked out of our church if
the dictionary definition was correct of
what a railer is okay now whenever we
see railing in the Bible it is
purposefully untrue okay it's slander
it's false accusations it's false
witness to something that's what railing
is and this is a word you do see thrown
around a lot okay you might see it
thrown around in similar circles to ours
okay but having a negative opinion of
someone saying something mean about
someone from behind the pulpit that's
not railing that's what people like guy
all this railing railing for my no
that's not railing okay if I if I call
you an idiot okay say I call someone in
this church an idiot but you can prove
you're above average IQ wasn't that I
was railing okay now should I tell you
how it would have been railing would be
if I then made up lies to justify my
opinion if I was like they're an idiot
because I told them what's one plus one
they could even work it out that would
be railing you that never happened yeah
but but just opinions things like that
again that's not clear railing okay
railing is purposeful okay it's it's
making up lies it's slander it's false
accusations Jude and Peter both it you
know it with Peter and second Peter to
both talk about not bringing railing
accusation okay so it's a lying
accusation it's a false accusation and
that was railing number five is a
drunkard a drunkard so either someone
who regularly drinks okay which you know
again if it's regular drinking it sounds
like a drunkard or who drinks much
alcohol when they do drink as in the case
of a wine bibber for example someone
who's getting drunk okay that's a
drunkard now you say well what's regular
what's drunk and if that's you here and
you're sitting here saying that okay
it's easier just to do what God said in
Proverbs 23 31 which is look not that
upon the wine when it is red when it
giveth his color in the cup when it
moved itself right he said just don't
look at fermented alcohol I mean if you
if you've got a question you know you
know what is a drug well he said don't
even look at it he said be sober
countless times throughout the Bible be
sober how many drinks makes you not sober
well if you're drunk on four you're
called to drunk on one aren't you and
you know what you're called to not sober
I mean it's pretty clear isn't it you
know them just don't drink maybe you
can't not drink sounds like a drunkard
if you can't not drink when God said
don't even look at it sounds like
drunkenness to me perhaps but you know
we'd have to judge that in a situation
but just don't drink I mean just like
it just quickly you know this needs
regular preaching is just everywhere
people just cannot accept this they
cannot accept this in the Bible and I've
done so many sermons on this look back
if you really want to see this clearly
laid out what wine is and isn't fermented
alcohol etc and I'll tell you why I
preach it a lot it's because it's like
this however much you preach it you're
still gonna have people that try and
somehow justify and try and make it okay
to drink booze which just wrecks your
life wrecks countless lives countless
victims of all sorts because of
drunkenness whether it's crashes smashes
you know whether it's whether it's
domestic abuse whether it's all sorts
of sexual abuses out like it's just
violence that goes with our guys just
just that's not for the Christian just
keep as far away from that as possible
and you don't even have to question what
is being a drunkard and what's not you
know right number six extortioner so
extortioner is someone using some sort
of some form of threats or force
including authority to take from someone
or maybe ripping someone off bit by the
price or charging interest so some
things that I like to explain would I
would consider to be an extortioner a
lot of these car clamping types like
these car coming firms it just like
swoop in on somewhere shove a clamp on
and tell people it's like hundreds of
pounds for me that's just an extortioner
it's extortion the the what they're
forcing you to pay doesn't match the
crime in inverted commas which is it
right certain you know in other legal
type parking enforcement and stuff
it's a grey area the council council
parking enforcement I'll probably have
to go with that one but BBC license fee
collectors I would probably call them I
would call them extortioners it's
extortion it's ridiculous and trying to
force people to pay a load of money for
some absolute liberal brainwash is
bizarre but you know more seriously as
well like people for example blackmail
and people that do this stuff yeah or is
that going to happen in the church
threats of accusations false or not
threats of revealing so-called secrets
or not unless people do as you want them
to do or don't do as you want them to do
is is black it's extortion threats that
you can imagine threats of violence
maybe the family things like that you
can imagine a preacher getting that
can't you for people inside or even
outside of the church trying to trying
to threaten them you know what I'll tell
you what in the prohibition era in the
United States there were some preachers
getting attempt people attempt to kill
them their assassination attempts on
preachers to preach on alcohol when you
know and preach against it when they
wanted it to be legal and things like
that look there there's a there's a lot
of stuff that goes on right that's
extortion but there are like I said
different versions but and you could
have someone just if you don't preach
this I'm going to do this if you do
preach this I'm not gonna do that it's
all extortion but coming to church and
this is another one and manipulating
handouts from people is for me a form
of extortion now some people are go well
it's something separate but it's still
in second Thessalonians 3 14 it says of
those not working but on the black and
if any man obey not our word by this
epistle note that man and have no company
with him that he may be ashamed so
whether or not you want to combine it
under extortion or not it goes hand in
hand anyway right so you can imagine
people that are coming refusing to work
and coming to church try and get handouts
and people and this goes on this goes
on in churches grifters people that
claim that they just have no money and
they're just going around different
people in the church trying to get
handouts from people now keep a finger
here and turn over to Matthew 18 Matthew
chapter 18 that was extortion for
another church member that we're told to
disfellowship from Matthew chapter 18
now Matthew 18 15 or 17 is regularly
misunderstood so you might have heard
people say what about you know did you
go to that false prophet privately
before preaching about them Matthew 18
says you should have gone to them and
they try because they want to claim that
they're a brother or something else even
though they're clearly preaching a false
gospel or something or did you talk to
that railing false accuser first before
marking them hmm you know well it's not
a Matthew 18 situation let's see what a
Matthew 18 situation is it's talking
about minor personal issues problems
disagreements civil matters like in
first Corinthians chapter 6 look at
verse 15 says in Matthew 18 verse 15
moreover if thy brother shall trespass
against thee go and tell him his fault
between thee and him alone if he shall
hear thee thou has gained thy brother
but if he will not hear thee then take
with thee one or two more that in the
mouth of two or three witnesses every
word may be established and if he shall
neglect to hear them tell it unto the
church but if he neglect to hear the
church let him be unto the ears and he
the man and a publican so although it
started it started with basically
personal trespass they offended you
maybe they scraped your car in the car
park they owed you money for some trade
that you agreed to do or something you
know they got one of you know I said oh
brother so-and-so does this you know can
can you come and do some work and then
they've had a disagreement over it that
sort of thing okay but what's happened
is that it's become a problem they've
tried to talk about it they try to get
someone else involved because they're
not agreeing and eventually it's gone to
the church because look this isn't
getting solved it's caused more we've
just still got a problem here and then
what's happened is it's exposed a bigger
problem now of being unable to respond
to the authority of the church so this
person here you're going well is it just
a minor trespass yeah but it's not been
solved it's come to the church and they
just cannot take the judgment of the
church and some people just like that
they just can't deal with authority you
get these people off they can't be told
anything they're just people sadly you
get people in church like that it just
cannot be told a thing it just they just
can't cope with it you almost see them
bristle it you even dare to ask them
something right they're just people like
that sadly and the disfellowship comes
when it gets the point of refusing to
accept the decision of the church when
it gets that point and look you know a
church of course that we're all brothers
in you know brothers and sisters in Christ
in the church but there is there is
authority in a church for a reason right
because there is in every area of life
that's needed when you refuse to accept
that in talk about in this situation
well that becomes a problem where where
the result is disfellowship so number
seven was refusing Church judgment now
turn over to Romans 16 for another one
Romans chapter 16 now again easily
misused by the liberal types claiming
that it's division causing to preach
against false doctrine you might have
heard that before right no this this is
people that are trying to turn people
aside from inside and outside the church
and again if you're sitting here going
what on earth is all this about believe
me when it comes to a proper church this
stuff happens okay this has happened
here it will continue to happen here
Romans 16 says in verse 17 Romans 16 17
says now beseech you brethren mark them
which cause divisions and offenses
contrary to the doctrine which you have
learned and avoid them so this isn't
this is Roman 16 17 this isn't about
offending someone as we would use a word
it's causing stumbling blocks in their
faith trying to divide the church and
entice members into false doctrine and
whether it's teaching false doctrine or
its division causing which is contrary
to a few doctrines again they're to be
marked and avoided according to this
this this chapter of Romans chapter 16
here this part of Romans chapter 16
sorry it says in verse 18 why it says
for they that are such serve not our
Lord Jesus Christ but their own belly
and by good words and fair speeches
deceive the hearts of the simple they
serve their own flesh okay Jesus doesn't
tell people to whisper false doctrine he
doesn't tell people to sneak around
trying to divide and cause little
divisions and create their own little
groups and their own followings all that
that's not God's way that's not that's
they're not serving the Lord Jesus
Christ okay his way isn't slander his
way isn't demoralization etc etc right
who do they target the simple that's the
unwise whether it's the unsaved babes in
Christ carnal believers okay and again
this is just this is a clear issue that
we're warned about okay in the Bible and
it's something that we've experienced
many times this church already will
continue to experience it number eight
was division causes you could say now
turn to 2nd Timothy 3 for the last one
on the list today 2nd Timothy chapter 3
so again something that is is so back to
front in many churches nowadays 2nd
Timothy 3 you're turning to and for the
more legitimate churches it comes from
wanting to appease the world compromising
to fit in with the world 2nd Timothy 3
says this in verse 1 2nd Timothy 3 1
says this know also that in the last
days perilous time shall come for men
shall be lovers of their own selves
covetous boasters proud blasphemers
disobedient to parents unthankful
unholy without natural affection truth
breakers false accusers incontinent
fierce despisers of those that are good
traitors heady high-minded lovers of
pleasures more than lovers of God having
a form of godliness yeah they might hang
around in churches and stuff but denying
the power thereof from such turn away he
said to turn away from there how do we
turn away from them if they're in our
church we kick them out for of this sort
of they which creep into house and lead
captive silly women laden with sins led
away led away with diverse lusts ever
learning and never able they're never
able to come to the knowledge of the
truth did he say that they just well
don't fancy get so they're not able
they're not capable of getting saved now
as jannies and jambres withstood Moses
so do these also resists the truth men
of corrupt minds reprobate concerning
the faith now so these are a kind of
reprobate rep rate is is basically
someone that's been rejected by God and
here it's talking specifically about
false prophets these are false prophets
they're reprobate concerning the faith
they're people that are creeping around
leading captive silly women laden with
sins led away with diverse lusts okay
these are false prophets and of course
look if someone came in here with I
don't know the Catholic collar on and
walked in fact we did have that in our
first building one he didn't have the
collar on but he came to visit I didn't
know and at the end afterwards someone
said apparently that guy's a Catholic
priest or something while he was kind of
getting asked to leave right after this
but look that's a false prophet they're
teaching lies that this isn't someone
that are they just if only we could get
him saying anyone get any Catholic
priests saved recently no oh wow funny
because we've been so but three thousand
seven hundred odd savages out of this
church and no one's got a Catholic
priest saved and they are around aren't
they anyone got a sea of Evica saved
recently nope anyone got her Pentecostal
apostle saved recently I'm going to keep
my hat down okay you know why because
they're false prophets okay they're
never able to come to the knowledge of
the truth that they're just they won't
ever get saved okay they're they're
reprobate concern the faith and the
Bible there's many examples again if
you aren't sure about this topic I've
done a full full sermon not that long
ago on just as some people unable to be
saved okay and it just makes it very
clear and again some people just want
to balk against this and reject this the
Bible's clear about this but false
prophets aren't the only type of
reprobate we would therefore include
obviously those given over to vile
affections as per Romans 1 and that
would include therefore sodomites child
abusers other dangerous perverts oh well
yeah you know they got convicted of a
few different you know child child abuse
offenses but they said they they said
they've repented oh yeah coming in I
mean honestly this goes on in churches
they'll be in the kids ministry next you
can't make that stuff up but but the
Bible says that that in Romans 1 it's a
symptom of a reprobate mind that's
someone that's been given over the that
has rejected God to the point where God
has then rejected them they their
conscience is seared that's why they're
able to do such filthy disgusting things
with they're not welcome in this church
and if that comes to light in this
church those people are out clearly
right and obviously if something God
forbidden and thank God we're family
integrated church that's why we you know
can't see with mine you keep an eye on
your kids etc etc because sadly people
like this do try and come in a church
sometimes again I'm not this in the
witch hunt you know just saying that
that does happen sometimes right we have
now and again had some weird people come
into our church and fortunately they've
then kind of made their way back out
again because there's not really that
much of an opportunity to do those sorts
of things in a church like this it's a
nice open plan Church we you know we
have our eyes open we've had the thought
I've had the ushers sometimes follow
people and just be right on them and go
I want you to keep an eye on that person
for certain reasons and and you know
sadly a lot of churches don't do that
they're like act like well you know
forgiveness isn't there no because above
says a reprobate like like they will
they can never come to the knowledge of
the truth did not say that they're never
able to come to the knowledge of the
truth so why would they why would we
have him in our church so number nine
was false prophets and that would
include sodomites and other reprobates
now go back to first Corinthians 5 and
just to say okay if there's anything on
that list let you want more detail on I
did a I've got a full playlist on a
channel called sins that get you kicked
out of church okay and obviously if you
want to ask anything after the sermon
you're welcome as well I'm not saying
you have to go and watch our old YouTube
sermons to learn things if you want to
know anything then please give me a
shout but I've got a full that I've got
like an hour plus on every single one of
those sins on that list on the series
that we did a while back okay so the
key point though being that being church
here though these are things that get
you kicked out of church and now this
is something I want to talk about a bit
now okay so in first Corinthians 5 the
Apostle Paul said this I wrote unto you
in an epistle in verse 9 not to company
with fornicators yet not all together
with the fornicators of this world or
with the covetous or extortioners or
with idolaters for then must you needs
go out of the world but now I've written
unto you not to keep company if any man
that is called a brother be a fornicator
or covetous for an idolater or a railer
or a drunkard or an extortioner with
such a one no not to eat for for what
have I to do to judge them also that are
without do not you judge them that are
within but then that are without God
judges therefore put away from among
yourselves that wicked person and just
make it clear with some of those sins
and depending on the circumstances if
someone is genuinely repentant and we
want to forgive them and bring them back
okay and depending on the situation
depending on you know the circumstances
okay it's not going to happen with
obviously the last one on that list right
like I just said same with most types of
division causes and railers okay that's
not like oh well you know it's just
they just fancy trying to like pull
people aside and cause division and get
them out of our church and stuff but
they've repented now I mean that's not
you know that that's not stuff that you
come back to church after okay just to
make it clear and with that okay when
someone is kicked out or marked and
avoided like we saw in in Romans 16 all
of us should not be company okay which
would include digitally nowadays as well
wouldn't it and it's just block removed
up okay until if depending on the
situation depending on it whether or not
we bring about and sometimes that there
are things people to do that it doesn't
have to go to the church might be
something I deal with privately with
someone hoping to bring them back and
not to cause a massive thing over it but
but ultimately regardless okay when
someone is clearly marked or avoided
when someone is is is disfellowship then
everyone's meant to disfellowship and
obviously for you know for a few reasons
someone causing division you know and
you want someone like that to be in
contact with gazelle whatever which way
they'll try and sow seeds and things like
that but obviously with things on this
list as well you're hoping for the
genuine people for some of these just
things which can be a sin of the flesh
that they'll get right and and want to
come back and have that fellowship again
with brothers and sisters in Christ yeah
but it's also for the protection because
a little leaven leavens a whole lump
okay so the idea is that they're
disfellowship okay so how about though
for all of you unsaved family and friends
out there how about them well verse 9
said I wrote unto you in an epistle not
to company with fornicators yet not all
together with the fornicators of this
world or with the covetous or extortioners
or with idolaters for then must you need
to go out of the world so if you
couldn't keep company with anyone or any
one of those in the world then you would
have to go out of the world which we're
not called to do are we we're not called
to go out of the world God wants us in
the world he wants us preaching to the
lost you can't do that if you're not in
company which is basically if you don't
associate with them can you how are you
going to preach to people how you gonna
how you gonna reach the lost how would
you keep a job if if you just couldn't
be around anyone like that well I mean
this is most of the world isn't it I mean
most of the world out there is covetous
most of the world out there is has got
an idol of some sorts most of the world
out there sadly nowadays is fornicating
as well or at least a lot of them the
ones that aren't married seem to be and
less and less people are married how
would you be a shining light is we're
called to be we meant to be a shining
light amongst these people you'd instead
be hiding under hiding you that light
under a bushel wouldn't you okay you'd
be hiding but but notice that there are
a couple missing there though as well
did you notice that okay between verse
10 and 11 verse 10 said yet not all
together with the fornicators of this
world or with the covetous or
extortion or with idolaters for then
must you needs go out of the world
compare verse 10 with verse 11 he said
but now I've written unto you not to
keep company if any man that is called a
brother be a fornicator or covetous or
an idolater or a railer or a drunkard or
an extortionary such one though not to
eat but and I think look you could just
say well you just kind of made it very
clear you know having just given a kind
of summary thing in verse 10 but I don't
know I think you'd be wise not to keep
company with the drunkards and the
railers of this world too wouldn't you so
whether they're saved or not you know
if someone is a just an open railer out
there they're dangerous people didn't
falsely accuse you make up things about
you change the truth into a lie etc turn
of Proverbs 23 though and of course look
when it comes to a drunkard there are
levels okay but being around people
boozing is a no-no isn't it you turn to
Proverbs 23 obviously keeping something
in 1st Corinthians 5 Proverbs 23 because
he didn't mention drunkards with the
ones of this world the people who are
just drinking who are boozing verse 20
of Proverbs 23 said be not among wine
bibbers among riotous eaters of flesh
these are people that are drinking a lot
right a wine bibber for the drunkard and
the glutton shall come to poverty this
is verse 21 of Proverbs 23 and drowsiness
shall clothe a man with rags so he said
to not be among them and you could look
at that two ways can't you could say to
not be kind of counted as one of them
but you can also say to not just be
around them because if you're around
them you're more likely to end up being
one of those who's counted as a wine
bibber as a riotous eater of flesh so
with that in mind I think that you'd be
wise to at least avoid at least avoid
look and again it's up to you how you
how you do this right but I would I
personally I just try and avoid being
around anyone who's drinking and
sometimes it can look sometimes I have
had problems with this in the past with
a family member that I didn't realize
you know or is invite or I've gone to
meet you know a couple of family members
and then suddenly one of them's buying
you know an alcoholic drink and I'm not
just gonna be like well that's it I'm
leaving you know but but if at the end
of the day I'm not staying there while
they start sinking drinks I just okay
well it's time for me to go you know and
I'm not gonna sit and again because you
could go too far go I'm not gonna be
around anyone that I see drink alcohol
well you probably cut out every
restaurant in your life you've cut out
pretty much a lot of situations in your
life that let's be honest you're not
cutting out because a lot of the time
it's for show this sort of thing and
people don't think about how those
standards work how you gonna ever get on
an aeroplane you know how it like because
as far as I as far as I can see even get
on a one-hour easy jet is this beer o'clock
it seems I mean that's that's the way it
is isn't it but I try and avoid it
wherever I can possible and I'll just
avoid and most of our family members
understand and we've spoken to them and
they just and we don't want it around
our kids so we don't when we go when
we're invited somewhere they won't drink
and same if no one's bringing alcohol
into my house I've just made up maybe
we'd have a few gentle battles with that
over the years but it's worked out all
right you know also you kind of work out
who actually cares about you and and
and like I've explained to people like
this before I said if I was an ex
alcoholic and I've been some some raging
alcoholic you would all be like yeah you
know but not drinking anything else but
but apparently because I you know I
don't want it around me and my kids and
my family and because it's due to the
Bible and what the Word of God says oh
well that we should be fine then why
shouldn't we you know if I was a raging
alcoholic I'd be like yeah no don't have
drink around that person because they're
trying to go they're trying to you know
go teetotal now so again you just kind
of see where really people if they
really care about you and everything
else as well right so there are ways of
dealing with that but again we've you
know here he's just saying be not among
them right so we should be avoiding that
they're not the plate your friends want
to meet up you know down the bar pub
whatever do you really need to meet up
in that situation is that really where
God wants you you might go well I've got
no problem with it yeah maybe maybe not
now maybe maybe next year you might
though maybe a couple of years the
temptation might come maybe just being
around it more and more and more the
temptation will come when God says just
not be don't be among them right for the
drunken and lust you come to poverty and
drowsiness your clothing man with rags
turn to Psalm 101 Psalm 101 I believe
that it's the same when it comes to
railers do you really want to be around
people like I said that just make up
lies it's slander that falsely accused
your turn to Psalm 101 Psalm 101 David
said in Psalm 101 of the unsaved of
wicked people okay so these are clearly
people that aren't saved they're wicked
they're what we've just seen a
reprobate another word for them he said
in Psalm 101 of verse 4 a froward heart
shall depart for me I will not know a
wicked person who so privately
slanderous so this is privately make you
up lies his neighbor him will I cut off
him that hath an high look and a proud
heart will not I suffer this is common
themes of these reprobate types he's God
haters the enemies of God mine eyes shall
be upon the faithful of the land that
they may dwell with me he that walketh
in a perfect way he shall serve me he
that worketh deceit shall not dwell
within my house he that telleth lies
shall not tarry in my sight and that's
pretty clear by David is he wants to
have nothing to do with them he wants a
disfellowship from these types of people
and wouldn't that include most of number
eight division causes from Romans 16 as
well you know that same sorts of people
they serve not the Lord Jesus Christ but
their own belly okay so it's same people
and definitely that would include number
nine various false prophets and perverts
wouldn't it okay same types of people so
that's pretty clear right so it's not
just okay those that are for example
saved versus those that aren't are all fair
game is it okay that's pretty clear
right so there are some ways that we can
you can look at that a bit a bit closer
and think okay I can see maybe why he
missed out the railing and missed out
the drunkard there we need to rightly
divide the word of truth don't we and
that leads me to the final group that I
want to look at so how about the saved
that aren't in church how about the saved
that aren't in church look at verse 9
again back in 1st Corinthians 5 1st
Corinthians 5 9 says this I wrote unto
you in an epistle not to company with
fornicators yet not all together with
the fornicators of this world or with
the covetous or extortioners or with
idolaters for them must you need to go
out of the world but now I've written
unto you not to keep company if any man
that is called a brother be a fornicator
or covetous or an idolater or a railer
or a drunkard or an extortioner with
such and one know not to eat for what
have I to do to judge them also that are
without do not you judge them that are
within but them that are without God
judges therefore put away from among
yourselves that wicked person now the
easy way to interpret this is saved and
unsaved but I'm going to give you a few
problems with that okay say I get
someone saved down the road today okay
say this afternoon we got so when you
get someone saved and he tells me after
I get him saved we start talking he says
I'm living with my girlfriend and my kids
is that cold shoulder time straight away
do I stop the conversation turn around
and just walk off no anyone think I
should don't think so right so at what
point do I cold shoulder him he's saved
now is he not a brother in Christ he's
a brother in Christ isn't he do it do we
do I even get onto the baptism
discussion now do we not talk about that
and do I just go to him right you save
right you need to stop that straight
away or we're not talking again he says
well I don't even know what the problem
is do I even am I even allowed to show
him it's a problem do you get what I'm
saying right there's a problem there
isn't there okay how long until I do
what's the time limit anyone got a time
limit because if you got a time limit
ain't in the Bible I didn't see a time
limit there right what's the rule is he
he's a he's a brother in Christ how
about a work colleague I get a work
colleague saved but there may be a
drunkard as you know how we would
describe maybe drunk maybe maybe they
just clearly covetous maybe they're
they're living in fornication am I even
allowed to explain that to them or is
that do I now have to talk to my boss
and go I can't be around that person
can't be on any work dudes with them I
can't eat with them I can't be around
them this isn't I can't be around this
but so how does it work how about
someone that gets their spouse saved but
their spouse is still a bit of a drunkard
that's it disfellowship time you see
what I mean so how does it work right
Tony John chapter 4 how about let's
think of things that and these are like
these are really genuine things right
how about you get your adult child
saved you get your adult child saved but
your adult child is you've maybe been
praying you just so desperate to get
that that child saved right but they're
living in fornication with their
boyfriend they've got a few kids you you
get him saved it's like right cut off
done because they won't they haven't I
mean how long well they got at least try
not to live together I mean they're
living together they're shacked up
together so do you suck I don't even
want to get him say cuz I've got to cut
them out of my life do you see I mean it
doesn't work does it how does it work
how about a parent I so want to get that
parent saved but I know that parent is
never gonna stop drinking that's like
their crutch yeah they're not you know
they're not like a maybe they are
whatever maybe they're raging alcoholic
maybe they're not but you've got a sober
time they want to hear the gospel but
once I preached in the gospel it's done
I can't ever talk to them again how some
might interpret this right and maybe
some would just go more tough tough
hardcore the word of God says cut them
out right I don't think it says that in
John 4 okay you in John chapter 4 we see
an example of the Lord not cutting off
one of these types of sinners just
because they're now saved okay now again
you can't say exactly what was and was
it said between them but let's just have
a look at this quickly John chapter 4
he's preaching to this Samaritan woman
said in verse 14 John 4 14 Jesus Christ
said this but whosoever drinketh of the
water that I shall give him shall never
thirst but the water that I shall give
him shall be in him a well of water
springing up into everlasting life the
woman saith unto him sir give me this
water that I first not neither come
hither to draw Jesus saith unto her go
call thy husband and come hither the
woman answers said I have no husband
Jesus said unto her thou as well said I
have no husband for thou has had five
husbands notice it was had and he whom
thou now hast present tense current is
not thy husband in that said thou truly
so it sounds like fornication to me
doesn't it I mean that's fornication
unless you want to call it adultery
because she's divorced but whatever right
okay at least if she's if she's you know
maybe legally divorced however you want
to call it they've had the writing of
divorcement five times I mean wow this
woman went through her husband as a bit
let's hope they're all still alive right
but but regardless okay it sounds like
it sounds like fornication or adultery
okay which is covetousness jump forward
in verse 28 Jesus preached to her okay
she gets saved verse 28 says this the
woman then left her water pot and went
her way into the city and saith to the
men come okay so she's saying to come
with her didn't she didn't say go she
said come see a man which told me all
things that ever I did is it not is not
this the Christ then they went out of
the city and came unto him so it seems
that she goes with them obviously okay
jump forward a verse 39 it's even clearer
then where it says in verse 39 and many
of the Samaritans of that city believed
on him for the saying of the woman she
ends up being she ends up going to any
other people right which testified he
told me all that ever I did so when the
Samaritans will come unto him they
besought him that he would tarry with
them and he abode there two days and
many more believed because of his own
word and said unto the woman sounds like
she's there too doesn't it how long for
looks like two days it said now we
believe not because of thy saying for we
have heard him ourselves and know that
this is indeed the Christ the Savior of
the world so they've heard him they're
talking to her now after two days he
departed that's went into Galilee it
sounds like she's there for a couple of
days isn't she there for a couple of
days hearing hearing you know him
preaching to other people as well some
people are getting saved some people got
saved because of her there's never one
mention of her living situation is there
at this point he said to her in verse 18
he whom thou now hast definitely current
and again it maybe did say but but we
don't see no example of him saying come
don't come back until you get right you
better not come back and see me till you
get right yeah that's it cut off time
until you you break up with this guy
whatever else now you might say well of
course okay she just got saved I agree
but where's the line then where's the
line what is the line anyone think that
the Lord would have cut her off if she
didn't come back for a week anyone think
they should come back a week later he
would have gone okay that's too much
time done a month a year do you think he
would have refused to speak to her till
she got right anyone think that that
maybe he'd maybe she didn't come back or
maybe she didn't get right and he was
like not talk to you get away from me
woman because I told you to get right is
it was there a time limit for that so
how weird to apply 1st Corinthians 5 to
new believers to family and friends how
do we apply it we'll go back there go
back to 1st Corinthians 5 was Paul in
1st Corinthians 5 telling the Corinthian
Church if they get their unsaved family
and friends save the next thing to do is
to cut off the ones that are fornicating
covetous have extortion type jobs again
you could think of any situation where
that might work idolatrous which is most
ways we know you get people say how many
people you got saved you might we bump
into him so so because we're hitting
similar areas we see people they're saved
you ask him they're saved they still at
their old church or idolaters was he
saying right if that's your family cut
off time if that's your old friends cut
off time or perhaps he was telling them
to kick members out of the church and
I think that might be how we apply it he
was actually kicking church members out
of the church and look you want to
interpret this how you want to okay and
how are the churches teachers is their
business okay we're in a dependent
church here okay and it's not something
that I've really looked it looked at in
depth and and I don't really know and
again that I barely listen to any
preaching I don't really know what
people do and I preach on this at this
point in time okay but this is what I
believe verse 5 verse 5 he said this
having now is something that someone
talked to me about you know they had
some questions about their family
members and stuff and it's like I really
want to study this out myself and and
get a understand this myself well verse
5 says to deliver such a one unto Satan
for the destruction of the flesh that
the Spirit may be saved in the day of
the Lord Jesus how are they delivering
him unto Satan by kicking him out of the
church you know by kicking him out of
the church it seems that there's a level
of protection by being in God's house
there's maybe a limit to what Satan can
do to them maybe yeah to a believer
who's in the house of God who's part of
a church who's part of the body of
Christ right either way does someone not
in church need delivering unto Satan
does someone who's not in church who's
not in that body of Christ who's not
part of the body of Christ in that local
New Testament Church do we need to how
do you deliver them to Satan they're
already they're already there and let's
be honest most people look there's a
time period and stuff that people get
right and stuff like that but most
people who especially as you get into
like you know time is all wrong in
church it they're usually just in the
world to a degree aren't they I mean
they're not saved but they just they
already delivered unto Satan okay
they're not doing anything most of the
time they're not being sent out they're
not going out and soul winning which is
the end result and they're not on their
way to that because they're not in
church and that's what this is about
it's kicking them out of church that's
what the whole passage is about verse 6
says your glory is not good no you're
not that a little leaven leaveneth the
whole lump talk about the whole church
not we don't believe in a universal
church here it's not all believers in
the world it's a whole lump it's talk
about the church he then said in verse
9 I wrote unto you an epistle not to
company with fornicators yet not all
together with the fornicators of this
world with the covetous or with all
extortions or with idolaters for then
must you knees go out to the guy out of
the world but now I've written unto you
not to keep company if any man that is
called a brother and then he gives a
list now the word brother can be used
for a variety of things so we've got
family relatives fellow Israelites in
the Old Testament turn to Acts chapter
9 Acts 9 it's either a literal or
figurative brothers someone closely
united or associated which is why it's
used for fellow believers yeah okay
because we're united and and where we've
become now children God for you all the
children of God by faith in Christ Jesus
right okay so we're brothers sisters in
Christ for the ladies but it's also for
the members of a church as a whole it's
just a united group it's figurative for
being a part of a united group it's
it's members of a church the whole a
specific group of believers so we're
going to look at Acts 9 where Saul is
recently converted says in Acts 9 26 and
when Saul was come to Jerusalem he is
saved to join himself to the disciples
okay these are believers here but they
were all afraid of him and believe not
that he was a disciple okay remember
Saul's been causing havoc but Barnabas
took him and brought him to the
apostles okay so now we got those those
apostles there and declared unto them
how he had been seen by the Lord in a
way and that he had spoken to him how
he had preached boldly at Damascus in the
name of Jesus verse 28 and he was with
them coming in and going out at
Jerusalem and he spoke boldly in the
name of the Lord Jesus and dispute
against the Grecians but they went
about to slay him which when the
brethren knew they brought him down to
Caesarea and sent him forth to Tarsus so
we've seen the disciples we've seen the
apostles he then says the brethren was
that all believers is that all believers
in the world at this point no it's
probably referring to the members of the
church at Jerusalem the brethren they're
being called the brethren they're a
collection a united group yeah they're
all saved they're the brethren there at
Jerusalem they brought him down to
Caesarea and my point is that back in
1st Corinthians 5 any man that is called
a brother is strange language for all
believers isn't it don't you think anyone
saved cut them off out of your life if
they're on this list I mean wouldn't he
have just said anyone who believes
anyone saved when he said any brother
maybe if you wanted to use that
terminology that would have sound a bit
but but if any man that is called a
brother someone you're calling a brother
talking to a church about kicking
someone out of their church he said but
now I've written unto you not to keep
company if any man that is called a
brother be a fornicator or covetous or
an idolatry or a regular drunken or an
extortionary such a one no not to eat
the context is the church kicking people
out brethren in the church that's the
context that's what the passage is about
and it's a bit of a jump to then go
right that means that anyone who's saved
who who does any of these sins is cut
out of your life forever but people
there are people that want to apply it
like that he said for what have I to do
to judge them also little without do not
ye judge them that are within clearly
talk about them within the church but
them that are without God judges
therefore put away from among yourselves
that wicked person clearly kicking him
out of the church obviously okay talking
to the church that's what it's all about
the whole context is a church discipline
situation amongst brethren in the church
isn't it how are you supposed to judge
this stuff with family friends and
colleagues how you meant what you just
meant to judge it individually wouldn't
that be so open to abuse you don't like
someone so they're covetous because our
wicked heart will just persuade us what
we want to think you like that family
member so they're not it's not really
drunkenness you know they just have the
odd one how would the Matthew 18
situation apply bring them down to your
church to deal with them I mean they
never wanted to come here in the first
place they got saved but they don't want
anything to do with that stuff it's like
I want to get some sounds a bit like
living for God sounds a bit like hard
work that stuff all right you've got to
come here past the tavern I want to talk
to you you offended me care what he's
got to say so how do you add your plot
you don't apply because it's talking to
church members how are you judging in
fact the next chapter how would you
judge the next chapter if brother can't
go to law with brother and it's talking
about all safe people if that's talking
about all safe people brother going to
with brother in first Corinthians
chapter 6 who's judging that situation
then pastor taverna my my my mum that I
got saved last year that never turned up
to church we need you to judge a
situation because she thinks that I
scratched her car when I left the house
the other day nothing to do with he's
going why they gotta go to the
unbelievers what because it's talking
about brethren in the church the whole
context is brethren in the church and
look Matthew 28 okay Matthew 28 gives
us the order of this thing so turn to
Matthew 28 because how is a newly saved
believer meant to know about any of this
stuff without being told how is the
believer how is anyone who's saved meant
to know any of this stuff without being
taught this stuff they need to be taught
it don't they but how can you teach him
if you've got to cut them off what do
they get one chance one chance you give
up whatever it is on this list because
I've told you to now that you're saved
or you cut off but look and I'm not I
you know one I'll tell you why I'm
getting a little bit kind of you know
animated about let's use the word
animated I'll tell you why because I
think people are like their family
getting wrecked by this stuff by
thinking that they've just got to cut
off anyone out of their lives because
they're not on this you know because
they're on this list and they're now
saved and there's probably people that
don't want to get people saved because
they're worried about now having to cut
them off and there's people that think
they're in sin because let's be honest
most people have them you know like
normal emotion won't cut off their
family they think I'm being sinful and
should I really see my family member
because they're like you know they're
saved and they're living in
fornication they've never come to church
or anything else it's just talk about
church discipline no you know what we
would bring him into the church and you
know what we bring him in to do to get
him baptized because let's look at the
order of things in Matthew 28 it says in
verse 18 and Jesus came and spake unto
them saying all power is given unto me
in heaven and in earth go ye therefore
and teach all nations number one you
teach let's look about the gospel teach
all nations baptizing them number two in
the name of the Father and the Son of
the Holy Ghost and what you do after
that teaching them to observe all things
whatsoever I've commanded you and lo I'm
with you all way even unto the end of
the world Amen you teach them the gospel
you baptize them and then you teach them
all things so what is it that makes the
saved person a member of our church what
is it that makes someone a brother or
sister of strong tower Baptist Church
one of those brothers and sisters down
strong tower Baptist Church the
opportunity first Corinthians 12 13 says
for by one spirit that we all baptized
into one body whether we be Jews or
Gentiles whether we be bond or free and
of all have been all made to drink into
one spirit it's baptism you're saved by
faith in Christ you baptize into the
body of Christ aren't you at that local
New Testament Church I don't get me
wrong some people might get baptized and
never come back okay and they're no
longer a member of our church right but
that's how they're added to our churches
after baptism that we want to teach them
all things so just to make that clear
when someone is newly saved I don't want
to start telling them they got to give
up this give up that and everything else
in the conversation after I've just got
them saved and I don't want to also when
they've come down to the church for the
first time but maybe they haven't come
to get baptized start telling them right
you ain't coming back again until you
move out of your family home with your
living girlfriend or something or you
you know or until you you need to get
married next week or you ain't coming
back but you know but you know I have
done and what I will do is if they get
baptized and they want to now be a part
of our church now it's time to teach
them this thing first because it's
become obvious and I don't start
questioning for it it's not like I need
to find out because this stuff is going
to come up pretty regularly and it is
going to come up in conversation anyway
okay and then then I want to explain
that to them and if you're and if you're
here and you're on the wrong side of
this but you believe you you're part of
our church remember my church you're
wrong side of one of these things so I
tell you to do just get out your life
get out of your life because it's not
really for us yeah it does affect the
church but ultimately first and foremost
it's for you isn't it be right with God
but is someone really going to learn all
things if they're refusing believers
baptism really they're refusing
believers baptism oh we're going to
teach them everything and it's like
baptism comes first doesn't it get them
say get baptized teach them all things
and when they're baptized they become a
member of our church now now this
applies because that's what it's talking
about it's a member of a church and then
we teach them the holy life that God
wants them to live yeah and yeah we're
all going to fail in many ways but those
things are serious things that God wants
people to make sure they get right to be
part of a thriving and efficient church
which is going out to reach the lost
why would we cut them out of our lives
before we even got onto stage two why
would we do that you said in verse 11
but now I've written unto you not to
keep company if any man that is called a
brother he's talking about a brother in
the church be a fornicator or covetous
or an idolator or a railer or a drunkard
or an extortioner with such a one no not
to eat we saw a list of things that we
had to disfellowship over we saw
fornicator covetous idolator railer
drunkard extortioner we also saw refusing
church judgment division causes and we
saw false prophets sodomites and other
reprobates now you can add other things
that you might have someone look you
have the choice in life you might see
someone in who's in your life that you
just know is a real negative influence
in your life someone that's trying to
pull you out of the things of God that's
trying to pull you down that's trying to
get you back into your old life your old
sins and and it's not always really
wicked people sometimes these people
they just want their sin buddy back or
they just they just want to try and get
you out of the church because they just
they want you they want to basically
validate what they do and how they live
and everything else but people like that
you might need to distance from and
that's your choice how to do that right
and but aside from that okay aside from
the reprobate stuff there we're not
obliged to cut off the unsaved for most
of that list and for me that includes
non church members too we're not obliged
you can choose to if you that's your
choice right you can take this how you
want but I don't believe that suddenly
in the middle of a church discipline
thing and everything else Paul just
slipped in by the way sins are saved now
out of there I don't believe that that
was disfellowship in the Christian life
on that we're going to finish in the word
of prayer. Father thank you for your word
thank you Lord for well for for you know
the the way that you show us you know
sins are a big problem a big stumbling
block to churches and knowing that we're
all sinners Lord that you know there's
none of us are sinless here and that we
you know we we obviously you know should
be trying to live holy we should be
trying to get things out of our life but
help us to also you know really
understand and and and you know
understand the importance of getting
those major sins out of our lives and
make sure they never creep in again in
the future but Lord help us also to just
apply you know what you what you show us
there in the right way Lord to
understand you know that there are those
there are those on the outside Lord that
maybe will never be part of the church
or maybe they will maybe we could
persuade them in the future but cutting
them out of our lives you know isn't
isn't isn't probably going to achieve
that Lord and help us to to get this
right help us to to to you know
understand this the right way if I
preach anything you know in the wrong
way there help people to just search
the scriptures and and to come to their
you know to their own correct
conclusions Lord according to you know
how you how you want us to read those
things understand those things Lord help
us to to to be you know to get it right
as we get people saved to disciple them
in the right way Lord to get that
balance right Lord to be a welcoming
place but also also a place that is
holy as well and Lord help us to to get
the balance right as a church help us
get many people say this afternoon
return for the evening service in Jesus
name for all of this amen
all right our last hymn is hit number
403 403 what's a friend we have in Jesus
is
heavenly father thank you for bringing
us together this morning and thank you
all for your word and thank you all for
the pastors prepared to preach those
uncomfortable messages and the whole
council pray lord that you'll keep it
safe as we go out and preach the gospel
bring us back safe and sound for this
afternoon service in Jesus name I pray
amen
hi there my name is pastor in tabernum
Strong Tail Baptist Church I just like
to take a few minutes today to show you
how you could be a 100 sure that if you
died you'd be going straight to heaven
so a lot of people teach all these
strange things about how you can be good
enough to go to heaven how you got to
follow a list of commandments get to
heaven see they're really the other
religion there's only really two
religions in the world there's good you
go to heaven bad you go to hell and all
the varying versions of that some of
them are very subtle oh you got at least
give up a certain amount of sin you got
to at least try not to sin and then
there's a bible which says no no no go
to heaven is a free gift and I want to
show you how you receive that free gift
today a few things you've got to
understand first though before you
receive that gift and that's number one
is that you are a sinner I'm a sinner
we're all sinners the bible says in
Romans 3 23 for all have sinned to come
short of the glory of God see we're all
sinners we've all broken God's
commandments in one way or another and
the bible says because of that we come
short of the glory of God we cannot be
good enough to go to heaven which means
that we're on our way somewhere else
there's only two places you go you either
go to heaven or you go to hell and the
bible says for the wages of sinners
death we're all sinners and what we get
in return is death and in the end that's
in a place called the second death which
is a lake of fire the bible says in in
wrote in sorry revelation 2014 and death
and hell will cast into the lake of fire
this is the second death if the wages of
sin is death and the second death is a
lake of fire that's not a very good
picture being painted there in fact in
revelation 21 8 we see just a quick list
of common sins to show that we're all on
our way to to the lake of fire the Bible
reads but the fearful and unbelieving
and the abominable and murderers and
whoremongers and sorcerers and
idolaters and all liars and that's you me
and everyone else in the world shall
have their part in the lake which
burneth a fine brimstone which is the
second death however God doesn't want
you to go to hell hell is eternal
he made a way for you to go to heaven in
Romans 5 8 the Bible says but God
commended his love toward us in that
while we were yet sinners Christ died
for us so Jesus Christ the Son of God
God in the flesh came to this world and
he didn't commit any sin he he lived a
perfect life and then at the end of his
life he he was hung up on a cross he
died to pay for our sins above season in
second Corinthians 5 21 for he had made
him that's Jesus Christ to be sinned for
us who knew no sin Jesus Christ was
sinless however he became sin for us
that we might be made the righteousness
of God in him he swapped with us he took
that punishment for you he he died on
that cross and he he then tasted death
for every man the Bible says in Acts 2
31 he's seeing this before spake of the
resurrection of Christ that his soul was
not left in hell neither this fresh should
see corruption because on the third day
rose again he showed the holes his hands
the holes his side it was a bodily
physical resurrection he wasn't a ghost
they ate with him they handled him and
then 40 days later we went to heaven now
now what does that mean does that mean
everyone's going to heaven well of course
not see there's one thing we have to do
to receive that gift and and in acts 16
30 someone asks a question sirs what
must I do to be saved the Apostle Paul
and Silas answered and they said believe
on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt
be saved and thy house so what does that
mean believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and
thou shalt be saved are they saying to
just believe that he exists are they
saying to believe that there's a person
called Jesus no they're saying to believe
on or put your faith your trust in that
death burial and resurrection of Jesus
Christ to have paid for all your past
present and future sins and you can go
to heaven that's what it means it's to
put your trust in Jesus like it says in
the most famous verse the world John 3
16 for God so loved the world that he
gave his only begotten son that
whosoever believeth in him should not
perish but have everlasting life see the
Bible teaches us time and time again
I always pray you don't have to do what you do
your faith will trust in what Jesus Christ did
not what you do see many people claim to
be Christians and say oh yeah I'm going
to heaven because I believe in Jesus and
I'm a good person and I got baptized and
I read my Bible and I do this and I do
that well they're not trusting Jesus
Christ they trust themselves and the
Bible says if they're not trusting Jesus
Christ they're going to hell Ephesians
3 and 9 says for by grace are you saved
through faith and that not of yourselves
it is a gift of God not of works as any
man should boast above said it's not of
yourself it's not of your own works it's
just faith alone in Christ alone it gets
you to heaven and a lot of people find
that really hard to understand now they
look at the bottom I think yeah but you
got to follow the commands you got to do
this you got to do that yet look as a
child of God when you get saved when you
become one of one of God's children by
faith in Christ Jesus which is what
Galatians 3 26 says for you all the
children of God by faith in Christ Jesus
once you become that child God's going
to punish you in life he's going to
reward you in life however the only way
you become that child the only way that
you could ever get to heaven is by what
Jesus Christ did not what you do once
you receive that gift that's it it's a
gift you're saved the Bible says in fact
in John 10 28 and I give unto them
eternal life nation ever perish neither
shall any man pluck them out of my hand
my father which gave them is greater than
all and no man is able to pluck them out
of my father's hand see once you're saved
you've received that gift you've become
a child of God you could never go to
hell otherwise Jesus Christ lied when he
said all you had to do is believe he
lied when he said that you shall never
perish and that's the gospel gospel
means good news a good news is that your
sins have been paid for all you've got
to do is receive that gift and in fact
in Romans 10 9 the Bible reads that if
thou shalt confess with thy mouth the
Lord Jesus and shalt believe in thine
heart that God is raised from dead thou
shalt be saved says in verse 13 of
Romans 10 for whosoever shall call upon
the name Lord shall be saved
and I'd like to lead you in a short
prayer now if you believe everything I've
just said if you believe that you're a
sinner you believe that you that the
wages of sin is death that you deserve
hell that Jesus Christ the Son of God
that he died was buried and rose again
to pay for your sins and that all you've
got to do is put your faith and trust in
him and once you've done that there is
no way you could lose that salvation
then please please just repeat after me
dear Jesus I know I'm a sinner I know I
deserve hell I believe that you died was
buried and rose again to pay for my sins
I trust in you now and only you please
take me to heaven when I die Amen
if you believe that and you've called on
the name of the Lord for salvation
congratulations you're saved and I'll
be seeing you in heaven one day God bless you